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          WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET TONIGHT AND WE WILL BE TALKING ABOUT PERMITTING AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES WITH PERMITTING AND CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          [B. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
WE WILL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME. 
          WE HAVE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT CARD. 
          YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          LORI WALKER. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          MY NAME IS LORI WALKER, 4913 KINGSWOOD DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND. 
          I'M HONORED TO SERVE AS THE PRESIDENT AND THE CEO OF THE FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, AND ON BEHALF OF OUR CHAMBER AND OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS AND OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, I'D LIKE TO THANK EACH OF YOU AND THE MAYOR FOR THE INVITATION TO COME TONIGHT FOR HOLDING THIS WORK SESSION REGARDING THE TOWN'S PERMITTING AND THE ENFORCEMENT PROCESSES. 
          WE APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO ENGAGE IN THIS IMPORTANT CONVERSATION AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT FLOWER MOUND REMAINS THE GREATEST PLACE TO WORK, LIVE, PLAY, AND DO BUSINESS. 
          THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TONIGHT TO LISTEN TO STAKEHOLDERS' FEEDBACK AND TO EVALUATE OPPORTUNITIES TO ENHANCE COMMUNICATIONS, STREAMLINE PROCESSES WHERE APPROPRIATE, AND CONTINUING BUILDING BUSINESS-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENTS WHILE WE MAINTAIN THE INCREDIBLE STANDARDS. 
          THAT MAKE FLOWER MOUND SUCH A DESIRABLE COMMUNITY. 
          WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND FOR RECOGNIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS DISCUSSION WITH OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY. 
          THE CHAMBER LOOKS FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK ALONGSIDE THE TOWN TO SUPPORT THE ECONOMIC GROWTH, THE BUSINESS SUCCESS, AND THE LONG-TERM PROSPERITY OF FLOWER MOUND. 
          THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR ATTENTION, AND THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING IN THIS PROCESS. 
          THANK YOU, LORI. 
          THE NEXT SPEAKER IS CLAYTON FLEURY, BUSINESS OWNER OF FLEURY. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL. 
          IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE IN FRONT OF YOU. 
          TOWN MANAGEMENT, THE SAME. 
          I WAS INFORMED ABOUT THIS ABOUT THREE HOURS AGO, AND I BELIEVE I WAS INFORMED BECAUSE I'VE BEEN QUITE VOCAL ACROSS THE STREET AT THE CHAMBER, REALLY AS IT RELATES TO NOT UNDERSTANDING TOWN CODE, MAYBE I SHOULD SAY. 
          AND I THINK IT'S CONFUSING, AND I WOULD VENTURE TO GUESS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AS IT RELATES TO SIGNAGE, SPECIFICALLY A-FRAMES. 
          IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND IT'S BASED OFF SOME CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEES, OTHER BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          IT SEEMS LIKE IN SOME AREAS OF TOWN YOU CAN DO ONE THING, IN OTHERS YOU CAN'T, AND IT'S CONFUSING. 
          AND BEYOND THE CONFUSION, I THINK EVEN IF THAT IS THE CASE AND WE DON'T WANT TO CHANGE IT, I WOULD LOVE TO CHALLENGE IT FURTHER THAT IT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. 
          I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, AND LET ME CLARIFY, I LOVE OUR STANDARDS HERE. 
          OUR STANDARDS ARE WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT. 
          BUT I THINK IT'S ONLY RIGHT THAT I CAN PROMOTE THAT I'M RUNNING A... 
          A DELICIOUS SANDWICH ON AN A-FRAME OUTSIDE OF MY FRONT DOOR IF MY LANDLORD CAN HAVE A HIDEOUS 10-FOOT SIGN RIGHT UP BY 2499, 365 DAYS A YEAR. 
          HE'S TRYING TO SELL HIS BUSINESS, RIGHT, AND GET TENANTS. 
          WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO SELL SANDWICHES TO THE PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT THERE. 
          I REALLY WAS PLANNING TO COME IN A FEW WEEKS, BUT START WITH SOME EMAILS TO UNDERSTAND A PROCESS TO COME AND BRING UP THIS SUBJECT. 
          BUT GRACIOUSLY, AND I ECHO EVERYTHING THAT LORI JUST SAID, AND GOD BLESS LORI AND EVERYTHING SHE DOES FOR THE CHAMBER. 
          AND CONGRATULATIONS, BY THE WAY. 
          IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU UP THERE, CLAIRE. 
          I JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO. 
          I KNOW I USUALLY SHOW UP HERE USUALLY WHEN JIMMY'S AROUND HERE BECAUSE I OPERATE IN LAKESIDE, TOO, AND I WANT TO SEE THAT PLACE GROW. 
          BUT FROM THE SIGNAGE STANDPOINT, I'M HERE WITH MY GOOD FRIEND AARON MATLEDGE, WHO IS THE WONDERFUL OWNER. 
          HE AND HIS WIFE HAVE HTO ACROSS THE STREET. 
          STREET. 
          I KNOW THEY HAD AN EVENT YESTERDAY, AND I'M NOT HERE TO SPEAK ON HIS BEHALF. 
          HE CAN DO HIS OWN BIDDING, BUT I KNOW THAT HE HAD A CITATION ISSUED TO HIM YESTERDAY WHILE HE HAD AN APPROVAL TO PUT ON AN EVENT, AND MAYBE THERE'S SOME DETAILS THAT ARE LOST IN THE SAUCE THAT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF FRICTION THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE THERE. 
          SO I JUST WOULD LOVE TO HAVE TO JUST INTERJECT THAT AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, ALL 
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THAT STUFF. 
          I TRULY BELIEVE THE LION'S SHARE OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WANTING TO PUT AN A-FRAME SIGN OUT OR ADVERTISE. 
          THEY'RE NOT HERE TO BREAK ANY LAWS. 
          THEY'RE JUST HERE TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BUSINESS IS SURVIVING. 
          AND THAT THE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO HELP THEM SURVIVE. 
          AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL. 
          THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. 
          TRULY, THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          WE ONLY HAVE ONE OTHER PERSON IN THE AUDIENCE. 
          DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK? HEY, EVERYONE. 
          JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND WHERE YOU'RE FROM. 
          AARON MATLEDGE, HTM. 
          THANK YOU ALL FOR EVERYTHING. 
          IT'S BEEN A WHILE. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          KIND OF ECHOING WHAT CLAYTON SAID, I THINK THERE'S JUST SO MUCH CONFUSION ON WHAT SIGNAGE CAN GO OUT. 
          YESTERDAY, WE DID HAVE A COUPLE JUST STAND. 
          SEEMS HARMLESS TO US FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW, AND WE GET IT. 
          IN NO WAY WAS ANY TYPE OF ENFORCEMENT DISRESPECTFUL AT ALL. 
          WE CAN DISAGREE, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE WE'RE OUT HERE TRYING TO PROMOTE LOCAL EVENTS, DIFFERENT THINGS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, ON JUST A SIMPLE A-FRAME SIGN THAT IS, WE'VE NEVER PUT IT OUT NEAR THE STREET. 
          IT'S NEVER IN ANYONE'S WAY. 
          I MEAN, IT LITERALLY SITS RIGHT OUTSIDE OF OUR FRONT DOOR. 
          THIS IS WHERE WE WOULD WANT IT. 
          IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, YES, WE CAN MOVE IT INSIDE, BUT INSIDE GETS KIND OF BUSY AT TIMES, AND IT'S JUST IN THE WAY IN THERE. 
          AND SO I JUST THINK IF DONE APPROPRIATELY, AND IF IT DOESN'T HAVE PROFANITY OR ANYTHING DIVISIVE, AN A-FRAME SIGN CAN DO A LOT FOR A SMALL BUSINESS. 
          AND IT SEEMS SILLY, BUT IT REALLY CAN. 
          AND WE SEE IT ALL THE TIME. 
          WE SEE OUR CATERING ORDERS GO UP IF WE HAVE ONE OUT. 
          WE SEE MORE PEOPLE SHOW UP FOR OUR EVENTS OR FOR OUR PROMOTIONS. 
          AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S WORTH A DISCUSSION, AND, YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE ALL HEARING US OUT AND TALKING MORE ABOUT IT. 
          SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR BUSINESS AS WELL. 
          I SEE A LOT OF FAMILIAR FACES. 
          I LOVE YOUR TEA. 
          HOPE THE TEA'S ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU ALL. 
          OKAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER PEOPLE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY SPEAK, 
          [C. WORK SESSION ITEM ]
SO WE WILL MOVE FORWARD TO OUR WORK SESSION ITEMS, AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND, OH WAIT, MEG, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND FLIP FLOPS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION REGARDING THE TOWN'S PERMITTING AND ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. 
          JAMES, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS? I DID, MAYOR, THANK YOU, AND SO I THINK LEXAN IS GOING TO KICK US OFF HERE THIS EVENING, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS REQUESTED BY YOU, MAYOR, AT A... 
          PAST MEETING TO TALK ABOUT YES OKAY I'M SORRY NOW WE KNOW WE'RE SWITCHING ORDERS ALEXA IS GOING TO COME DOWN TO JOIN YOU BUT JUST AS A REQUEST TO TALK ABOUT OVERALL OUR PERMITTING PROCESS AND THERE'S A NATURAL YOU KNOW CONNECTION WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND YOUR ESTABLISHED BUSINESS THEN AT THAT POINT THE REGULATION AND INSPECTION PROCESS IS HANDLED BY OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT GROUP SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT'S PUT TOGETHER FOR YOU. 
          LEXAN'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS, AND THEN WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT GROUP TO TALK ABOUT THE ENFORCEMENT ENDS OF THINGS. 
          AND IT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY AN INTERACTIVE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. 
          IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD TUTORIAL FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          AND SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO LEXAN. 
          AND JUST REAL QUICK, LEXAN, JUST FOR THE COUNCIL TO KNOW, WHEN I GO TO THESE CHAMBER EVENTS, I SPEAK TO THESE BUSINESS OWNERS AND... 
          THE REASON I WANTED THIS ON THE AGENDA IS THIS WAS SOMETHING OF CONCERN TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS. 
          SO I THINK THIS WILL HELP, HOPEFULLY, TO CLEAR SOME THINGS UP. 
          SO, AGAIN, IT WAS KIND OF A BROAD TOPIC OF JUST PERMITTING AND SO NOT BEING SURE WHAT ALL THE COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO TOUCH ON. 
          I THOUGHT A GOOD PLACE TO ADDRESS THIS TOPIC WAS THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OVERVIEW PAGE. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL ARE WATCHING, BUT AS I WALKED UP HERE, JUST GOT TO IT, GOING TO THE TOWN'S WEBSITE AND THEN PLANNING SERVICES, DEVELOPMENT PROCESS OVERVIEW IS THE LINK. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID FOLLOWING THE FLOMO CONVOS DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY EDITION, BECAUSE THAT WAS SOMETHING WE HEARD FROM THEM AS IT KIND OF WOULD BE HELPFUL TO SEE THE CONTINUUM OF THE WHOLE PROCESS IN FLOWER MOUND AND HAVE HELPFUL INFORMATION AVAILABLE THROUGH THAT. 
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SO WE PUT THIS TOGETHER. 
          THIS FIRST PAGE, WILL YOU START?, IS KIND OF DRC MEETING, AND SO WE TALK ABOUT GETTING STARTED. 
          DRC STANDS FOR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE AND SO THAT'S A GREAT PLACE TO START. 
          AND IT ACTUALLY WAS SOMETHING THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION BROUGHT UP AT A RECENT MEETING TOO. 
          THEY KIND OF HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT IS THAT AND HOW CAN PEOPLE FIND OUT MORE ABOUT IT IF THEY WANT TO HAVE A DRC MEETING. 
          SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT IS IS ALL THE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE POTENTIALLY COULD BE INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT PLANNING. 
          ENGINEERING, FIRE, CODE ENFORCEMENT, ENVIRONMENTAL, AND ALSO NOT JUST ENVIRONMENTAL FROM LIKE THE SEPTIC PERSPECTIVE BUT THEN ALSO FOR TREES. 
          I THINK I ALREADY SAID FIRE. 
          WE HAVE SOMEBODY FROM PARKS TRAILS AND LANDSCAPING SO WE KIND OF HAVE BUILDING INSPECTIONS WE HAVE THE WHOLE CONTINUUM THERE SO THAT DEPENDING ON YOUR PROJECT STAFF CAN GIVE YOU FEEDBACK. 
          WE ASK PEOPLE TO SUBMIT A SOME SORT OF GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN OF WHAT IT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO DO. 
          IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANYTHING PROFESSIONALLY DONE. 
          IT CAN BE HAND-DRAWN. 
          PEOPLE WILL SOMETIMES JUST DRAW ON TOP OF AN AERIAL. 
          BUT SO YOU CAN CLICK ON, IF YOU CLICK ON THAT, IT TALKS ABOUT THE PURPOSE OF THE DRC MEETING, AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY FILL THIS OUT. 
          IT WALKS YOU THROUGH SOME QUESTIONS AND GET THAT SUBMITTED. 
          THEY'RE FREE, AND YOU CAN HAVE MORE THAN ONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU HAVE ONE AND THEN YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND OR COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN AND YOU WANT TO COME BACK AND TALK TO STAFF AGAIN. 
          THIS IS JUST A RESOURCE WE PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          SO THAT'S REALLY THAT FIRST STEP. 
          LIKE I SAID, AND NOT THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THIS ALL THE TIME, BUT IF YOU HAVE KIND OF A MORE COMPLICATED ISSUE, EVEN IF YOU'RE A RESIDENT BUT YOU'RE WANTING TO GO INTO KIND OF AN UNDEVELOPED LAND AREA, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS THAT TOUCH ON ENGINEERING, TREES, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          MORE THAN ONE DEPARTMENT, AND SO IT MAKES SENSE TO TALK TO EVERYBODY. 
          SO THAT'S THAT FIRST STEP. 
          AND WE HAVE SOME DIFFERENT KIND OF SCENARIOS HERE, LIKE ARE YOU CHANGING THE PERMITTED USE? ARE YOU EXTENDING PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE? ARE YOU CHANGING A PROPERTY LINE OR BUILDING SETBACK? ARE YOU TRYING TO REDEVELOP A PROPERTY? SO AGAIN, TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO HELPFUL RESOURCES DEPENDING ON THEIR SCENARIO. 
          NEXT STEP, ZONING ENTITLEMENTS. 
          YOU WHENEVER YOU GO TO, AND THIS DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE YOU'RE TRYING TO DEVELOP A PROPERTY AS FAR AS COMING IN WITH A DEVELOPER AND WANTING TO KNOW WHETHER YOU CAN PUT IN A SUBDIVISION HERE. 
          IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS THIS IS AN EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER AND I WANT TO KNOW IF MY USE IS ALLOWED. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, ZONING CAN REALLY TOUCH EVERYBODY ON ALL KIND OF THE WHOLE SPECTRUM. 
          SO THIS IS HELPFUL. 
          YOU CAN TYPE IN AN ADDRESS. 
          AND LOOK UP THE ZONING OF YOUR PROPERTY. 
          WE ALSO HAVE THIS AVAILABLE THROUGH THE GIS MAP, BUT WE HAD A LINK PUT IN HERE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS SIMPLE, CONNECT IT THROUGH THAT SO THAT YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS AND FIND ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          WE TALK ABOUT THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS, ALSO MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT. 
          IF FOR SOME REASON YOU'RE NEEDING TO CHANGE THE ZONING AND IT DOESN'T MATCH THE LAND USE, YOU NEED TO DO THAT MPA. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE INFORMATION, THE APPLICATION CHECKLIST, AND THEN HERE JUST... 
          SINCE IT'S A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, IT'S ALSO A LINK TO THE MASTER PLAN, THE APPLICATION CHECKLIST FOR EACH OF THESE TYPE OF APPLICATIONS, AN MPA, A ZONING CHANGE, A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, AND A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. 
          AND THEN WE HAVE KIND OF THIS SURVEY THAT WALKS PEOPLE THROUGH A FEW QUESTIONS TO DETERMINE IF THEY MIGHT NEED A WORK SESSION BECAUSE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION ADOPTED CRITERIA FOR WHEN PROJECTS NEED WORK SESSIONS IN THE TOWN, WHEN THERE'S ZONING OR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, SO HELPING PEOPLE TRY TO FIGURE THAT OUT. 
          WE HAVE INFORMATION ABOUT OUR ZONING INFORMATIONAL SIGNS AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO PUT IN PLACE BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM P&Z AND COUNCIL THIS NEW RESIDENTIAL FENCING NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT. 
          SO WE PUT INFORMATION ABOUT THAT IN THERE AS WELL. 
          IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO A REZONING, YOU'RE NEXT TO AN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WOULD BE REQUIRED TO REACH OUT TO THOSE NEIGHBORS SO THAT YOU CAN COORDINATE WITH THEM ON THE FENCING THAT WILL NOW BE SHARED FENCING. 
          SO WE TRY TO TO PUT A LOT OF INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE. 
          SO NEXT STEP IN THIS WOULD BE A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY ONLY GOING TO BE IF YOU'RE DEVELOPING PROPERTY. 
          SO IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING LOT OR AN ALREADY DEVELOPED BUILDING, THIS WOULDN'T REALLY APPLY TO YOU BUT IT COULD APPLY TO TO SOME PEOPLE DEPENDING ON THEIR SCENARIO. 
          YOU KNOW WE TALK ABOUT WHEN IS A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN REQUIRED. 
          IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN ONE NON-RESIDENTIAL LOT OR YOU HAVE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT THAT WOULD BE NEEDED AND THEN FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS IF YOU HAVE MORE THAN FOUR RESIDENTIAL LOTS AS WELL AS IF YOU NEED A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AND SO KIND OF TALKS THROUGH WHAT IS A 
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SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN, THE PURPOSE OF IT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S LOOKING AT ALL THESE THINGS, ENGINEERING DESIGN CRITERIA, TREES, PARKLAND DEDICATION, LANDSCAPING, ZONING STANDARDS, LOT LAYOUT, RESIDENTIAL ENTRY FEATURES. 
          AND THEN AGAIN, WE HAVE GENERAL TIMELINE. 
          AND I CAN JUST SHOW YOU THESE. 
          WE PUT THESE TOGETHER SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE THEM FOR THEIR PROJECT. 
          SO WE DID THEM FOR EACH APPLICATION TYPE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS, IT'S SHOWING IF YOU GET TO THE FOURTH REVIEW, THAT'S KIND OF JUST THAT FINAL REVIEW. 
          SO YOU TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE THREE ROUNDS. 
          AND SO IT'S SHOWING, YOU KNOW, 15-DAY REVIEW ON OUR END, 15-DAY ON THE APPLICANTS. 
          SAME THING. 
          THAT'S THE THREE ROUNDS. 
          THEN YOU PROBABLY JUST HAVE KIND OF A FOURTH-ROUND CLEANUP. 
          AND SO THAT'S SHOWING 10 DAYS ON EITHER SIDE, JUST FINISHING UP THOSE LAST FINAL DETAILS. 
          SO, AGAIN, IT MIGHT NOT TAKE THIS EXACT AMOUNT OF TIME. 
          APPLICANT MIGHT TAKE THREE MONTHS BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO RESUBMIT. 
          THAT'S TOTALLY UP TO THEM. 
          SO THIS IS JUST MAKING SOME ASSUMPTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE WOULD TYPICALLY SEE. 
          NOW, STAFF DOES 98% OF THE TIME, AS WE'VE BEEN TRACKING IT, MEET THAT 15 BUSINESS DAY TURNAROUND FOR HOURS. 
          SO YOU CAN FEEL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT THAT WE ARE GOING TO MEET THAT 15 DAYS. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, SO IT SHOWS YOU ALL OF THAT AND THEN TALKS ABOUT IF YOU HAVE TO SEE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION, THIS IS WHEN THEY MEET, AND THEN GOING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, AND THEN TOWN COUNCIL WOULD ONLY BE REQUIRED IF THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S SHOWING YOU WHERE THIS FALLS IN THE CONTINUUM. 
          AFTER ZONING, YOU GOT YOUR ZONING, THAT'S CHECKED, BUT BEFORE THE PROPERTY'S PLATTED. 
          I HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT JUST KIND OF LITTLE TIPS ON HERE. 
          WHO THE APPROVING BODY TYPICALLY WOULD BE, IS THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          SO AGAIN, WE DID THESE FOR EACH APPLICATION TYPE, WALKED THROUGH WITH AN AVERAGE TIMELINE, AND TRIED TO GIVE PEOPLE INFORMATION ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT STEPS THAT WOULD BE INVOLVED. 
          SO LET'S MOVE ON TO PLATTING. 
          PLATTING IS THE FINAL STEP THAT'S ACTUALLY ESTABLISHING THAT LOT ON A SITE. 
          IN ORDER TO CREATE A BUILDING SITE A SUBDIVISION PLOT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY THE TOWN AND FILED TALKS ABOUT THE APPROVAL PROCESS TYPICALLY THEY'RE APPROVED ADMINISTRATIVELY IF NO EXCEPTIONS AND EXPLAINS THE AMENDED PLAT IS ALSO A POSSIBILITY WE'VE AGAIN PROVIDED A LINK HERE THAT GOES TO THE COUNTY SITE SO YOU CAN TRY TO FIND IF YOUR EXISTING PROPERTY HAS A PLOT NOW AGAIN STAFF IS ALWAYS HAPPY TO HELP WITH ANY OF THIS AND BEFORE YOU WOULD DO ANYTHING OFFICIALS SPEND ANY MONEY DO ANYTHING LEGAL YOU SHOULD DEFINITELY CHECK WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAVE ALL THE MOST UPDATED INFORMATION IN CASE JUST IN CASE WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY DIDN'T HAVE OR THAT KIND OF THING BUT AGAIN TRYING TO BE HELPFUL SO WE HAVE YOU CAN PUT IN AN ADDRESS AND SEARCH FOR A PLAT FOR YOUR PROPERTY TO SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT CURRENTLY EXISTS WE HAVE IN HERE THE KIND OF STANDARD LANGUAGE FORMAT GUIDE FOR WHAT HAS TO GO ON A PLAT WE HAVE LINKS TO THE GENERAL PLATTING REQUIREMENTS THE TOWN SUBDIVISION ORDINANCE, FIRE CODE, WE HAVE LOT DIMENSIONS AND SETBACKS, LOT CONFIGURATION, AND THEN HOA REQUIREMENTS. 
          AND THEN HERE WE HAVE LINKS, THE GENERAL TIMELINE, AND AN APPLICATION CHECKLIST FOR EACH DIFFERENT TYPE OF PLAT THAT YOU MIGHT NEED TO DO. 
          DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT'S KIND OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT, THAT'S ONLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE FIVE OR MORE LOTS. 
          WELL, IT'S REALLY ONLY IF YOU ARE GOING TO BE DEVELOPING IN PHASES. 
          NOW, THEN YOU'LL DO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN JUST TO KIND OF LAY OUT THE WHOLE SUBDIVISION AND IDENTIFY THOSE PHASES. 
          THEN THE RECORD PLAT, THOSE ARE YOUR ENGINEERED FINAL PLANS. 
          MINOR RECORD PLAT, YOU CAN DO THAT IF IT'S FOUR OR FEWER LOTS, SMALLER SUBDIVISION. 
          RE-PLAT, IF YOU ARE TRYING TO RE-PLAT A PROPERTY, PUT IN NEW SUBDIVISION, NEW PROPERTY LINES. 
          AND THEN AMENDED PLAT. 
          SO FOR EACH OF THESE, WE HAVE THE GENERAL TIMELINE AND THE APPLICATION CHECKLIST. 
          AND THEN SOME LINKS TO HELPFUL INFORMATION. 
          SO WE GO TO A SITE PLAN. 
          SO THIS COULD AFFECT IF YOU WERE TRYING TO OPEN A NEW BUSINESS ON UNDEVELOPED LAND, AND THEN YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE WANTING TO SITE PLAN THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW WHERE YOUR BUILDING WAS GOING TO BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY AND ALL THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE LANDSCAPING. 
          YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW ARE YOU GETTING WATER AND SEWER TO YOUR SITE? HOW IS YOUR ACCESS? MAKE SURE YOU'RE MEETING THINGS LIKE DRIVEWAY SPACING REQUIREMENTS, ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WILL COME INTO PLACE WITH A SITE PLAN. 
          SO A SITE PLAN APPLICATION IS REQUIRED BEFORE A BUILDING PERMIT CAN BE ISSUED. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THE SITE PLANS 
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SHOW HOW THE PROPERTY WILL BE LAID OUT, LOOKING AT PARKING AREAS, FIRE LANES, BUILDINGS, LANDSCAPING, TO ENSURE THAT THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, BUILDING CODES, FIRE CODES, EVERYTHING IS BEING COMPLIED WITH. 
          SITE PLANS ARE NOT ADMINISTRATIVELY APPROVED UNLESS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT JUST AMENDING AN EXISTING SITE PLAN IN A VERY MINIMAL WAY. 
          IF IT NEEDS AN EXCEPTION, AGAIN, IT WOULD GO ON TO COUNCIL, BUT NORMALLY IT STOPS AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. 
          THIS IS JUST GIVING SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE DETAILS FOR WHAT THE APPLICATION WOULD INCLUDE. 
          PROPERTY OWNER CONSENT, TAX CERTIFICATES, LETTER OF INTENT. 
          WE HAVE A LINK HERE TO OUR GENERAL SITE PLAN NOTES. 
          THOSE ARE JUST NOTES THAT ARE REQUIRED TO BE PUT ON SITE PLANS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING THE TOWN'S STANDARDS. 
          LANDSCAPE SCREENING PLANS, ELEVATIONS, TREE SURVEY, CONSTRUCTION PLANS. 
          WE HAVE TIME-SAVING TIPS ON HERE. 
          BE SURE TO USE AND FILL IN THE TOWN'S... 
          SITE PLAN DATA TABLES, WE HAVE LINKS TO THOSE, INCLUDE THE GENERAL SITE PLAN NOTES ON THE FACE OF THE PLAN, AGAIN WITH THAT TIMELINE APPLICATION CHECKLIST, WE HAVE A BUNCH OF LINKS HERE TO INFORMATION THAT COULD BE HELPFUL, GOING DIRECTLY TO STREET YARD LANDSCAPING, STREET BUFFER LANDSCAPING, PARKING LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW SCREENING, THESE REQUIREMENTS, ALL THE DIFFERENT PARKING STANDARDS, PARKING SPACE AND AISLE DIMENSIONS, PARKING AREA DESIGN, DRIVEWAYS AND ACCESS. 
          ENGINEERING DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL. 
          SO NOW WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING TO PERMITS. 
          THIS IS THE FIRST KIND OF PERMIT IT'S A DEV PERMIT DEVELOPMENT PERMIT. 
          THIS IS A PERMIT THAT IS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR A SITE SO THIS IS NOT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL BUILDING. 
          THIS IS JUST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT IS REQUIRED FOR GRADING UTILITY INSTALLATION AND SUBDIVISION LANDSCAPING. 
          IT'LL INCLUDE A CONTACT CONTRACTOR LIST LETTER OF PERMISSION OR EASEMENTS FOR OFF-SITE WORK, STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN, THAT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT POLLUTING OFF-SITE, LETTING DIRT AND DEBRIS GO OFF OF YOUR SITE ONTO ADJACENT PROPERTY, NOTICE OF INTENT, YOUR CONSTRUCTION PLANS, THOSE WILL HAVE BEEN REVIEWED WITH THE SITE PLAN OR THE SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN, DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF WORK YOU'RE DOING OR BOTH. 
          SO SHOULDN'T BE A LOT OF CHANGES TO THAT, BUT THEY'RE PART OF THIS APPLICATION. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE AND DRAINAGE COST BREAKDOWN AND THEN VERIFICATION OF OTHER REQUIRED PERMITS AND A TRENCH SAFETY PLAN. 
          SO THIS WALKS YOU THROUGH THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          AGAIN WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN DEV PERMITS ONTO THE TOWN'S ETRACKIT SYSTEM NOW WHERE THEY CAN ALSO BE APPLIED THAT WAY AS WELL. 
          SO PRETTY MUCH ALL OF OUR PERMITTING, JUST ABOUT ALL OF OUR PERMITTING IS ELECTRONIC NOW. 
          YOU'LL UPLOAD ALL REQUIRED SUBMITTALS IN ETRACKIT. 
          TOWN STAFF REVIEW, GIVE YOU COMMENTS, REVIEW THE CONSTRUCTION PLANS. 
          WHEN ALL REQUIRED SUBMITTALS HAVE BEEN APPROVED, THE DEVELOPER WILL REQUEST A PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING. 
          ONCE THE PRE-CONSTRUCTION MEETING HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND ALL FEES HAVE BEEN PAID, THEN THE DEV PERMIT WILL BE ISSUED. 
          SO NO WORK SHOULD START BEFORE A DEV PERMIT IS ISSUED. 
          SO HERE WE HAVE A DIRECT LINK TO APPLY FOR A DEV PERMIT, THAT GENERAL TIMELINE AGAIN. 
          SOME HELPFUL RESOURCES. 
          WE ALSO HAVE SOME TIME-SAVING TIPS. 
          ENGINEERING HAS PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT THAT'S FREQUENTLY MISSED DEVELOPMENT ITEMS JUST TO HELP PEOPLE OUT, MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT MISSING SOME OF THOSE COMMON ONES. 
          LETTING PEOPLE KNOW YOU CAN REQUEST ALL THREE PRE-CONSTRUCTION INSPECTIONS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THEM ONE AFTER THE OTHER. 
          SAME-DAY INSPECTIONS CAN BE REQUESTED BEFORE 7.30 A.M. 
          REQUEST MADE AFTERWARDS WILL BE COMPLETED THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY. 
          ALL GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND LICENSED SUBCONTRACTORS HAVE TO BE REGISTERED WITH THE TOWN. 
          TALKS ABOUT SWPPP AND TXDOT PERMITS SHOULD BE APPLIED FOR EARLY, BECAUSE THOSE HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE STATE. 
          AND THEN A YELLOW CARD CAN BE COMPLETED ELECTRONICALLY OR IN PERSON. 
          THAT YELLOW CARD, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE ALL THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE ACTUALLY SIGNING OFF. 
          WE USED TO ALWAYS USE A PHYSICAL CARD, BUT NOW, AGAIN, TO ADDRESS KIND OF FEEDBACK WE GOT IT CAN BE DONE ELECTRONICALLY OR THE PHYSICAL CARD IN PERSON EITHER WAY. 
          HERE'S A LINK TO HOW SOMEONE CAN REGISTER AS A CONTRACTOR. 
          THIS IS A LINK TO PRIVATE ENGINEERING FIRM CONTACTS. 
          HERE'S A LINK TO REQUEST AN INSPECTION OR AN INSPECTION INFORMATION PACKET. 
          NEXT WE GO TO THE BUILDING PERMIT. 
          SO A LOT OF TIMES THE BUILDING PERMIT AND THE DEV PERMIT ARE HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY. 
          BUT THE DEV PERMIT WILL GET STARTED FIRST BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED TO GET YOUR FIRE LANES IN PLACE BEFORE YOU CAN GO VERTICAL. 
          SO BEFORE YOU CAN START BUILDING UP, FIRE NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO GET TO THE SITE IN CASE THERE WAS ANY KIND OF EMERGENCY. 
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SO BUILDING PERMIT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED BEFORE PERFORMING ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION OR ANY ADDITION ALTERATION OR REPAIR OF EXISTING BUILDINGS STRUCTURES PLUMBING ELECTRICAL OR MECHANICAL WORK ALL WORK EXCEPTION ALL WORK WHICH REQUIRES A PERMIT BUT IS PERFORMED OUTSIDE BUSINESS HOURS FOR EMERGENCY REASONS MUST BE SUBMITTED FOR PERMIT THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO INTENT FOR ANYBODY TO CONTINUE WITH AN UNSAFE CONDITION DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO AND JUST COME GET THE PERMIT AFTER THE FACT. 
          LET'S SEE DETAILS. 
          BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION USUALLY INCLUDES AN APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, COMPLETE FLOOR PLAN OF THE STRUCTURES, WINDOW AND DOOR SIZES, ELEVATION DRAWINGS SHOWING EXTERIOR WALL CONSTRUCTION, FOUNDATION DRAWINGS STAMPED BY A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, THEN ALL STRUCTURAL, PLUMBING, ELECTRICAL, AND MECHANICAL DRAWINGS MUST BE STAMPED BY AN ENGINEER SPECIALIZING IN THAT PARTICULAR FIELD. 
          REQUIRED BY THE FLOWCHART OF THE TEXAS ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING ACT. 
          SO WE HAVE HERE A LINK HERE TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. 
          AGAIN THIS IS ALL DONE ELECTRONICALLY. 
          APPLY FOR YOUR PERMITS ONLINE. 
          YOU CAN SCHEDULE YOUR PERMITS ONLINE. 
          HERE'S GENERAL TIMELINE FOR PERMITS AS WELL. 
          I'LL JUST SAY THAT THE TOWN DID A REVIEW OF THE WHOLE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          JUST TO SEE KIND OF HOW WE STACKED UP IN RELATION TO, YOU KNOW, OUR SURVEY CITIES. 
          AND I'LL SAY OUR BUILDING INSPECTION TIMELINE IS EXCEPTIONAL. 
          WE'RE QUICKER THAN MOST OF OUR SURVEY CITIES. 
          SO THE PROCESS, AGAIN, YOU WOULD MAKE THAT APPLICATION, STAFF WILL REVIEW, PROVIDE COMMENTS. 
          RESIDENTIAL BUILDING PERMITS ARE ISSUED ONCE YOUR APPLICATION MEETS ALL CODES AND ORDINANCES. 
          NON-RESIDENTIAL PERMITS ARE ISSUED ONCE YOUR APPLICATION MEETS ALL THOSE CODES AND ORDINANCES AND AFTER A PERMIT RELEASE MEETING WITH STAFF. 
          ALL REQUIRED INSPECTIONS LISTED ON EACH PERMIT MUST BE SCHEDULED THROUGH E-TRACKET AND FINALED. 
          RESIDENTIAL HOMES MAY BE OCCUPIED ONCE THE FINAL WALKTHROUGH HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          NON-RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS MAY BE OCCUPIED AFTER HAVING A PRE-CO MEETING WITH STAFF AND THE FINAL WALKTHROUGH HAS BEEN APPROVED. 
          YOU KNOW, PRE-CO MEETINGS, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT WE STARTED DOING, AGAIN, TO BE HELPFUL TO THE APPLICANTS. 
          WE'LL START MEETING WITH APPLICANTS SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE WE THINK THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FINISHED, SO WE CAN TALK THROUGH KIND OF ISSUES THAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SITE, ANYTHING THAT COULD BE GETTING IN THE WAY OF THEM GETTING THAT PERMIT FINALED. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE BE SUCCESSFUL. 
          SOME TIME-SAVING TIPS. 
          YOU KNOW, CHANGES TO ELEVATIONS OR SITE MAY REQUIRE AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE THAT WE ACTUALLY TRACK THOSE THINGS. 
          I THINK SOME CITIES DON'T NECESSARILY DO THAT. 
          YOU GET YOUR SITE PLAN APPROVED, AND THEN PEOPLE KIND OF FORGET ABOUT IT, AND THEY MOVE ON WITH THEIR BUILDING. 
          BUT WE MAKE SURE THEY MATCH. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE MAKING CHANGES TO YOUR SITE, YOU CHANGE AROUND THIS BUILDING, DECIDE, NAH, I THINK I ACTUALLY WANTED TO EXTEND A PATIO HERE AND MAYBE PUT A DIFFERENT FINISH ON THAT. 
          WELL, THAT MEANS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES. 
          ASP, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND YOUR SITE PLAN. 
          AS LONG AS IT STILL MEETS THE TOWN'S CODE, IT'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS STAY UP TO DATE AND THAT THEY MATCH. 
          REVIEW THE GREASE TRAP SIZING REQUIREMENTS. 
          FLOWER MOUND DOES HAVE OUR OWN DIFFERENT STANDARDS FOR GREASE TRAPS, SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE AHEAD OF TIME. 
          WE ALWAYS TRY TO WARN PEOPLE TOO TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          ANYTIME YOU HAVE A USE, A BUSINESS THAT INVOLVES FOOD, EVEN IF IT'S A VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF FOOD, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO PROBABLY NEED A GREASE TRAP, AND SO THAT CAN TRIP PEOPLE UP AS WELL. 
          WE TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE AWARE THAT IF THEY'RE DOING A CHANGE OF USE WHERE THAT BUILDING DIDN'T PREVIOUSLY HAVE A GREASE TRAP, YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT WHERE THAT CAN BE LOCATED, YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT THE COST INVOLVED IN THAT, BECAUSE IT CAN BE SIGNIFICANT. 
          ALL GENERAL CONTRACTORS AND LICENSED SUBCONTRACTORS MUST BE REGISTERED WITH THE TOWN BEFORE A BUILDING PERMIT IS ISSUED. 
          FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECTS, ENSURE ALL CONSTRUCTION AND BUILDING PLANS ON SITE ARE THE CURRENT TOWN APPROVED PLANS. 
          DON'T BE USING OLD PLANS, THAT'S GOING TO THROW EVERYTHING OFF. 
          IF THE OCCUPANCY OR USE OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING OR SPACE CHANGES, THE PROJECT MAY BE SUBJECT TO ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES. 
          AND SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE USUALLY WHEN, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU HAVE A SHOPPING CENTER AND THEY WOULD PAY KIND OF THE GENERAL RETAIL IMPACT FEES FOR THAT OVERALL SHOPPING CENTER. 
          SO FOR MOST USES THAT COME INTO THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE FINE. 
          THEY'RE GOING TO ALREADY BE COVERED. 
          THE INDIVIDUAL TENANT WON'T END UP HAVING TO PAY ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES. 
          BUT THERE ARE SOME USES THAT HAVE HIGHER IMPACT FEES THAN JUST WHAT THAT GENERAL TYPICAL RETAIL WOULD BE. 
          THE TWO MOST COMMON THAT WE SEE ARE RESTAURANTS AND MEDICAL. 
          BOTH OF THOSE TEND TO HAVE... 
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GREATER TURNOVER, THEY SEE MORE PEOPLE, SO THEY HAVE HIGHER IMPACT FEES. 
          THERE'S EXPECTED TO BE YOU KNOW JUST MORE USE OF THE ROADS, THAT KIND OF THING, BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE TRAFFIC FOR THOSE USES. 
          SO SOMETIMES THAT'S UNEXPECTED FOR TENANTS AS WELL. 
          THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY MIGHT OWE ADDITIONAL IMPACT FEES WHEN THEY CAME IN, THEY JUST ASSUMED THAT WAS ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF. 
          LET'S SEE. 
          INTERIOR RENOVATIONS OF COMMERCIAL SPACES OFTEN REQUIRE CHANGES TO THE EXISTING FIRE ALARM AND OR FIRE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS MODIFICATIONS TO THESE SYSTEMS MUST BE PERMITTED SEPARATELY THROUGH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT COORDINATE EARLY TO AVOID DELAYS IN YOUR PROJECT AND WE HAVE A LINK TO FIRE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS THERE SO THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THAT COMES UP ONCE A WHILE AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE WERE AWARE OF THAT BECAUSE SOMETIMES EVEN IF YOU ALREADY HAD A FIRE SYSTEM BUT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE CHANGES TO IT. 
          AND SO YOU WOULD STILL NEED TO GET A NEW PERMIT FOR THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A CHANGE OF USE, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS. 
          WHENEVER YOU DO A CHANGE OF USE, YOU HAVE TO BRING THINGS UP TO CURRENT STANDARDS. 
          WE HAVE LINKS TO ALL OF THE CURRENT BUILDING CODES. 
          THESE ARE EFFECTIVE AS OF OCTOBER 1, 2025, FOR BOTH NON-RESIDENTIAL AND RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND SO WE HAVE APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT. 
          WE ALSO HAVE LINKS TO... 
          TO OUR PACKETS. 
          WE'VE PUT TOGETHER OVERALL PACKETS THAT WALK PEOPLE THROUGH ALL THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO KNOW, WHETHER IT'S A COMMERCIAL OR A RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. 
          WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PACKETS FOR THAT. 
          APPLY FOR A SIGN PERMIT. 
          SO I HEARD SOME PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT SIGNS TONIGHT. 
          WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT OF SIGN REGULATIONS. 
          IF THAT'S ANYTHING THAT THE TOWN IS, TOWN COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN MAKING CHANGES TO, STAFF IS CERTAINLY HAPPY TO PUT TOGETHER ORDINANCE AMENDMENT BASED ON THE COUNCIL'S INPUT. 
          I THINK, I CAN'T REMEMBER IF IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE, WHERE WE HAD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PRESENTATIONS ABOUT SIGNS. 
          I THINK BASED ON SOME FEEDBACK THE COUNCIL HAD RECEIVED, WE TALKED THROUGH THOSE AND DID BRING FORWARD A FEW CHANGES TO THE SIGN CODE. 
          SO THAT'S ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT PLACES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT SIGN REGULATIONS. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S JUST BASED ON DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENTS WILL DO A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE. 
          SO THEY'LL COME UP WITH KIND OF THEIR OWN PROPOSED REGULATIONS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR DEVELOPMENT, AND IF THOSE ARE APPROVED, THEN THOSE ARE THEIR SIGN REGULATIONS, BUT THEY DIDN'T BECOME THE SIGN REGULATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN. 
          IT'S KIND OF THE SAME THING AS SOMEBODY DOING A PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          YOU CAN ASK FOR SPECIAL PERMISSION TO MODIFY A STANDARD, AND THEN THAT BECOMES THE NEW STANDARD FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THAT ZONING ACTION, BUT IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT, FOR INSTANCE, THE SETBACK IS FOR... 
          YOU KNOW, SF-15 FOR THE WHOLE TOWN IS JUST FOR THAT SUBDIVISION, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WENT THROUGH A PLAN DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION. 
          THIS IS ALSO OUR LINK TO APPLY FOR A FIRE ALARM, OUR SPRINKLER PERMIT, LINK TO REGISTER AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, SUBCONTRACTOR, AND THEN WE ALSO PUT TOGETHER SOME TIPS ON SELECTING A CONTRACTOR JUST BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS OVER TIME. 
          LEXAN, CAN I... 
          SINCE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT SIGNS, DEVELOPMENT STAFF HELD OUR SECOND REALTOR TRAINING SESSION THIS MORNING, AND I THINK IT ALSO CAME UP IN THE FIRST ONE ABOUT OPEN HOUSE SIGNS. 
          AND SO AS WE WERE GOING OVER THE NUMBER AND LOCATION OF OPEN HOUSE SIGNS, THERE WAS AN AUDIBLE GASP FROM THE REALTORS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THE LIMITATIONS THAT THE TOWN'S BASE CODE HAS ON THE LOCATION AND THE NUMBER THAT YOU CAN HAVE. 
          AND SO THEY ASK, WELL, WHY CAN'T Y'ALL CHANGE THAT? WE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS, LIKE LEXAN JUST MENTIONED, THAT THAT HAS TO COME AS A DIRECTIVE FROM COUNCIL TO BRING THAT FORWARD. 
          AND WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO REACH OUT TO YOU. 
          SO IF YOU HEAR ANY, IF YOU GET AN EMAIL OR PHONE CALL FROM A REALTOR TALKING ABOUT OPEN HOUSE SIGNS, THAT'S WHERE IT CAME FROM. 
          JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL A HEADS UP. 
          SO FINAL STEP IN THE PROCESS IS OCCUPANCY. 
          ONCE CONSTRUCTION AND ALL INSPECTIONS ARE COMPLETE, NEW HOMEOWNER OR BUSINESS TENANT MAY BEGIN MOVING IN. 
          IF YOUR PROJECT INCLUDES EMPTY SPACES FOR FUTURE TENANTS, A FINISH-OUT PERMIT WILL BE REQUIRED. 
          ADDITIONALLY, IF A NEW TENANT BECOMES INTERESTED IN THE SPACE AND DOES NOT NEED TO ALTER THE INTERIOR, A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS STILL REQUIRED. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW CO IF YOU'RE A NEW TENANT THAT COMES IN. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET A NEW CO IF A NEW OWNER BUYS THE BUILDING. 
          WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE UP-TO-DATE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT SPACE. 
          SO THAT'S WHY WE REQUIRE THAT, NOT JUST BECAUSE WE LIKE HAVING LOTS OF DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS. 
          SO JUST SOME GENERAL INFORMATION, GRAND OPENINGS. 
          SO THE TOWN DOES ALLOW SOME SPECIALTY TEMPORARY SIGNAGE WHEN YOU'RE DOING A GRAND OPENING. 
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THE GRAND OPENING HAS TO TAKE PLACE WITHIN 90 DAYS OF THE OPENING AND SO THAT'S HOW YOU'LL SOMETIMES SEE YOU KNOW LIKE A BIG BALLOON SOMETHING MORE A LOT OF STANDARDS FOR GRAND OPENINGS YOU CAN ALSO APPLY FOR A SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT FOR YOUR BUSINESS IF YOU'RE OPEN AND YOU WANT TO HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL EVENT AND TRY TO GENERATE MORE INTEREST IF IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THEN AND COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC, MIGHT NEED TO CLOSE A STREET, IF YOU NEED TO GET SPECIAL PERMISSION TO DO FOOD SALES LIKE IN A PARKING LOT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU WOULD NEED TO GO TO THAT SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT PROCESS. 
          ALCOHOL PERMITS, SOMETHING ELSE YOU MIGHT NEED THAT'S SEPARATE, DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO SPECIFICALLY THROUGH THE TOWN, THE TOWN SECRETARY'S OFFICE IS INVOLVED AS WELL BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE STATE HAS TO ISSUE THROUGH TABC, THEY HAVE TO GIVE YOU PERMISSION TO DO AN ALCOHOL PERMIT. 
          THIS IS JUST SOMETHING IF YOU HAVE A MEDICAL AED, THE EMERGENCY SERVICES IS TRYING TO GET A RECORD OF ALL THOSE SO THAT THEY CAN MAKE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC. 
          IF YOU HAVE A SECURITY ALARM, BE SURE TO REGISTER YOUR ALARM WITH THE TOWN'S POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE A LINK TO THE FLOWER MOUND WELCOME GUIDE. 
          SO THIS WAS WALKING US THROUGH THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS. 
          I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SPECIFIC TO THIS. 
          AND THEN I ALSO WILL INTRODUCE CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          THANK YOU, LEXAN, FOR PUTTING ALL THIS TOGETHER. 
          BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE AMAZING STAFF THAT REALLY HELPS OUR BUSINESSES TRY TO GET EVERYTHING EXPEDITED AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 
          AND SOMETIMES THE DELAYS ARE JUST SIMPLY PEOPLE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO. 
          AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. 
          ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO ME BY SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE CHAMBER, THEM. 
          BUSINESS OWNERS, WAS THE E-TRACKET SYSTEM. 
          AND JUST THE PROCESS OF THAT AND THE DIFFICULTY WITH USING THAT, IS THAT SOMETHING, BECAUSE I'VE NOT USED THAT SYSTEM, SO IS THERE A PROCESS THAT THEY CAN BE TRAINED ON OR TO MAKE IT EASIER TO NAVIGATE THROUGH? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THAT. 
          DIFFICULT. 
          I THINK IT'S PROBABLY JUST GETTING USED TO IT. 
          IF YOU'VE NEVER USED THE SYSTEM BEFORE, IT MIGHT TAKE YOU A LITTLE WHILE TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH IT. 
          BUT I THINK MOST OF THE ACTUAL FIELDS OF WHAT IT'S ASKING YOU TO FILL IN, YOU KNOW, ARE INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE KNOW. 
          IT'S THINGS LIKE CONTACT INFORMATION AND UPLOADING ATTACHMENTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          YOU KNOW, I THINK IT CAN JUST BE GETTING USED TO LIKE FINDING YOUR COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHERE TO LOOK FOR THOSE AFTER YOU SUBMIT AN APPLICATION. 
          AND OH, I NEED TO CLICK HERE TO GET IT TO EXPAND. 
          I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT IN THAT LITTLE TINY LINE RIGHT THERE SO, YOU KNOW THINGS LIKE THAT GETTING FAMILIAR WITH THE SYSTEM. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME HOW-TO VIDEOS WEBSITE HERE WE GO HOW-TO DOCUMENTS AND VIDEOS SO THIS IS HOW TO FOLLOW A PERMIT ON EACH RACKET FOR HOMES AND BUSINESS OWNERS WE ALSO HAVE HOW TO APPLY FOR A PERMIT USING ETRACKIT. 
          THIS ONE'S A PDF AND HOW TO CREATE A NEW PUBLIC USER ACCOUNT. 
          THAT ONE IS A PDF AS WELL. 
          SO THAT WALKS THROUGH THIS WHOLE PROCESS WITH SCREENSHOTS AND ARROWS, AND SO TRYING TO HELP PEOPLE UNDERSTAND. 
          WE DEFINITELY WANT TO BE HELPFUL. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT THERE AS WE CAN. 
          WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MUCH ON OUR WEBSITE AS WE CAN. 
          SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT WE CAN DO THAT YOU CAN DO, HERE THAT WOULD PEOPLE FEEL LIKE, OH, IF YOU HAD A HOW-TO ON THIS IN RELATION TO E-TRACK, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT. 
          LIKE I SAID, OR IF IT'S, WE REALLY NEED YOU TO CHANGE THAT FROM A PDF, SO WE'D LIKE IT TO BE ONE OF THESE VIDEOS LIKE WE DID ON HOW TO FOLLOW YOUR PERMIT. 
          YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK LIKE THAT, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK ON THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS EASY FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND. 
          AND I'LL SAY, I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE TO TAKE QUESTIONS ALSO IF PEOPLE REACH OUT TO STAFF EVEN WHEN WE DID THE FLOMO CONVOS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SOMETHING THAT MADE ME REALLY HAPPY WAS THE ALMOST UNIVERSALLY WHAT WE HEARD FROM PEOPLE THAT ATTENDED THAT WAS THAT WE WERE AVAILABLE THEY'RE LIKE YEAH, DEFINITELY STAFF PICKS UP THE PHONE LIKE IF WE CALL WE CAN GET SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT ALWAYS THE CASE IN SOME MUNICIPALITIES SO I WILL SAY I THINK WE'RE DEFINITELY AVAILABLE. 
          THAT'S WHAT I HEAR FROM OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. 
          SO I WOULD ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO CALL OR EMAIL ALSO IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. 
          YEAH, AND THAT'S FEEDBACK I GET 
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TOO, THAT STAFF IS ALWAYS AVAILABLE. 
          YEAH, AGREED. 
          EVERY TIME ANYBODY COMPLAINS TO ME AND I DIRECT THEM TO WHERE TOWN STAFF CAN HELP, TOWN STAFF IS ON TOP OF IT AND IMMEDIATELY RESPONDS. 
          I'M ALWAYS GLAD TO HEAR THAT. 
          SO HAVING GONE THROUGH THE BUILDING PROCESS IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IN FLAMMAND AND HAD TO DEAL WITH E-TRACK IT MYSELF, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A LEARNING CURVE. 
          BUT ONCE YOU'VE DONE IT A COUPLE OF TIMES AND YOU KNOW WHERE TO ASK FOR THE INSPECTIONS AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS, IT'S... 
          YOU DO GET THE HANG OF IT. 
          YEAH, IT'S LIKE ANYTHING NEW. 
          AND STAFF WERE ALWAYS VERY RESPONSIVE. 
          IF I CALLED OR IF I CAME BECAUSE I HAD A QUESTION THAT I DIDN'T KNOW, THEN STAFF WAS ALWAYS VERY HELPFUL. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS I WANT TO BRING UP IS WHAT BUSINESSES ARE SAYING. 
          ALMOST EVERY EVENT I GO TO WITH THE CHAMBER, THESE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE VERY CONCERNED, AS WAS BROUGHT UP TONIGHT, ABOUT THE SIGNAGE. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, YOU DIDN'T MENTION THAT WE DO NEED TO CHANGE THIS. 
          WE NEED AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. 
          SO I WOULD LOVE FOR COUNCIL TO TALK ABOUT THAT, SEE IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND GET THIS DONE SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR OUR BUSINESSES. 
          IT IS SO IMPORTANT FOR OUR BUSINESSES TO THRIVE. 
          AND JUST HAVING THEM COME FORWARD AND SAYING, EVEN THOUGH IT SEEMS SMALL, IT'S ACTUALLY HUGE FOR THEM. 
          AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO HELP. 
          ELIMINATE SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THAT THEY HAVE. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO DO AN AMENDMENT IF WE COULD. 
          SO I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE TEMPORARY SIGN ORDINANCE BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT WE NEED, I DON'T KNOW. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS LOOKING OVER WHILE YOU WERE PRESENTING AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT. 
          I APPRECIATE THE SPECIFICITY BECAUSE WHEN WE HEAR THE FEEDBACK THAT IT'S TOO HARD TO DO BUSINESS IN FLOWER MOUND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TOO MANY OBSTACLES. 
          A LOT OF THE TIMES IT'S SEEMS LIKE WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT APPROVING ENOUGH DISCRETIONARY ZONING REQUESTS AND MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, AND THAT'S A PROBLEM FOR SOME PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S MORE OF A POLITICAL QUESTION. 
          WHEN WE GET INTO ADMINISTRATIVE CHALLENGES, WELL, THERE'S DEFINITELY, WE WANT TO KNOW SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE THAT. 
          AND WHEN I'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR HIGHEST VOLUME USERS LIKE TOLL BROTHERS, YOU KNOW, LAKESIDE, THEIR FEEDBACK IS THAT WE LOVE IT. 
          THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, THEY KNOW HOW TO GET THINGS DONE, THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S A COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE, AND THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. 
          BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE ONE-OFFS, DIY-TYPE PEOPLE, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL GET AN EMAIL AND IT'S LIKE, HEY, MY HOUSE CAUGHT ON FIRE AND NOW I'M TRYING TO GET TEMPORARY POWER AND I CAN'T DO IT. 
          IT'S TOO HARD TO GET ANYTHING DONE, AND THEN YOU FIND OUT, WELL, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? IS THERE A PROCESS OR DO WE NEED TO MAKE A CHANGE? SO FROM THE FEEDBACK WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, TEMPORARY SIGNS. 
          SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT AN A-FRAME SIGN, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A SANDWICH BOARD THAT OPENS UP AND SITS OUT IN FRONT OF YOUR DOOR. 
          SO I WAS LOOKING AT THE DOCUMENT ON THE WEBSITE ABOUT SIGNS, AND IT HAS A WHOLE SECTION ABOUT TEMPORARY SIGNS. 
          AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE A SIGN IN FRONT OF YOUR BUILDING THAT IS, YOU KNOW, ONE SIGN PER 50 FEET, IT SAYS. 
          TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGNS SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING. 
          YOU CAN'T BE IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. 
          YOU CAN'T IMPAIR VISIBILITY. 
          I HAD, THERE'S A BUSINESS THAT'S NEAR ME THAT HAS FLAGS, SIGNS UP, AND FEEDBACK. 
          THEY SAID, BASICALLY, THEY WERE TOLD. 
          AS LONG AS IT'S GONE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW IF I KIND OF WANT TO HEAR WHAT CODE ENFORCING HAD TO SAY WITH HTO SO THAT I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS. 
          AND THEN WE CAN SEE, IS THERE SOMETHING WE CAN DO IN SECTION 8673A, TEMPORARY SIGNS, THAT ADDRESSES THIS NEED AND GIVES, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE ASKING. 
          I'LL JUST JUMP IN HERE REAL QUICK. 
          WE WEREN'T NECESSARILY PREPARED TO. 
          TALKS ABOUT SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES, SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BEAR WITH US IF WE HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT. 
          THE OVERALL SIGNAGE CODE, WE'VE GONE THROUGH TWO OR THREE MAJOR OVERHAULS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, AND I'LL TELL YOU, IT CAN BE A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT UNLESS WE'RE GOING TO BE, AS STEVE DIXON USED TO SAY, SURGICAL OR LASER-FOCUSED ON A FEW ITEMS. AND WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AT THE DISCRETION, DIRECTION OF COUNSEL. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO. 
          CONVEY THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A COMPLETE OVERHAUL FOR SIGN ORDINANCE, THAT IS GOING TO BE A MONUMENTAL TASK THAT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT, STAKEHOLDER INPUT, AND A LOT OF CONSIDERABLE STAFF TIME. 
          IF WE'RE LOOKING AT A-FRAMES AND SIGNAGE ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. 
          AND ALL THAT'S TO KIND OF SET THE TABLE FOR IF KRISTA WAS GOING TO COME UP HERE AND TALK ABOUT THE SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT. 
          I WILL SAY FOR SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, IT DOES. 
          SPECIFIC AND SEPARATE SIGNAGE CRITERIA AND YOU ARE LIMITED TO THE SIGN TYPES AND THAT THAT TYPE OF SIGNAGE WHATEVER YOU'RE CHOOSING HAS GOT TO BE ON YOUR PLAN AND IF IT'S NOT ON 
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YOUR PLAN THEN IT'S NOT PERMITTED AND YOU CAN GET A NOTICE OF VIOLATION AND BE ASKED TO REMOVE IT I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE SPECIFIC CIRCUMSTANCES HERE. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF KRISTA'S PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          AGAIN, WE WEREN'T PREPPED FOR TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS. 
          AND WITH THAT, I'LL STOP TALKING. 
          SO I DON'T THINK THIS MEANS TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGN, JUST ANY TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGN. 
          I THINK THIS IS MORE SAYING IF YOU FALL INTO ONE OF THE CATEGORIES WHERE YOU ARE ALLOWED A TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGN, THEN YOU HAVE TO ENSURE YOU MEET THIS. 
          BECAUSE JUST FOR INSTANCE, I'M PRETTY SURE THAT A PORTABLE SIGN IN GENERAL IS PROHIBITED, OR A MOVABLE SIGN. 
          SO I DON'T THINK WE DO ALLOW THESE KIND OF A-FRAME SANDWICH, BUT I'LL ALSO ALLOW JOELLE TO COME UP IN CASE I GET ANYTHING WRONG. 
          BUT I'LL TRY TO SAY WHAT I THINK I KNOW, IS THAT YOU CAN'T DO THOSE UNLESS THERE ARE SPECIFIC ORDINANCES THAT ALLOW THEM. 
          AGAIN, IF YOU WENT THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE, OR FOR INSTANCE, LIKE IN THE RIVERWALK OR LAKESIDE. 
          WHERE THOSE ARE KIND OF AREAS THAT ARE TARGETING MORE MIXED USE AND MORE KIND OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THEY WERE SPECIFICALLY ALLOWED THOSE TYPE OF SIGNS, THINKING LIKE, OH, YEAH, YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE LIKE WALKING BY AND STOP IN AT A CAFE. 
          AND SO WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING OUT RIGHT THERE. 
          WELL, BEFORE YOU GO, THOUGH, CAN WE JUST REAL QUICK TOUCH ON THE SEMI-PERMANENT, KIND OF DILAPIDATED WOODEN FOR LEASE CALLED SUCH AND SUCH SIGN THAT YOU SEE THAT SAYS ON HERE THAT IT'S GOOD FOR A YEAR, BUT YOU'VE GOT TO RENEW EVERY YEAR. 
          IN THE SIGNS THERE FOREVER. 
          I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS SEEM TO HAVE THESE SIGNS THAT ARE ALWAYS THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A COUPLE SLOTS OPEN. 
          IS THAT WHAT THERE IS IT AT NUMBER F HERE THAT SAYS PERMITS SHALL BE FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR SHALL BE RENEWABLE WITH THE BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR AND THAT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON FOREVER? SO IT COULD IF THE SPACE NEVER CELLS OR THE LOT NUMBER CELLS CELLS BUT THEY CAN'T BE IN DILAPIDATED CONDITION, SO THAT'S ANOTHER PART OF OUR SIGN ORDER. 
          THEY HAVE TO BE IN GOOD CONDITION. 
          SO, YES, THEY DO HAVE TO RENEW THAT PERMIT EVERY YEAR, AND THEN WE DO GO OUT AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S STILL IN GOOD CONDITION. 
          BUT YOU MIGHT ALSO BE SEEING UNPERMITTED. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CAN YOU TALK JUST ABOUT THESE A-FRAME SIGNS? SURE. 
          DOES IT FALL UNDER THE TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGN, AND DOES THAT REQUIRE THEM TO HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE A TEMPORARY SIGN? IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DEAL WITH? SO A FRAME WOULD BE CONSIDERED A PORTABLE SIGN AND THOSE ARE PROHIBITED UNDER THE VERY FIRST PART OF THE SIGN ORDINANCE PORTABLE SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED BUT LIKE LEXAN MENTIONED THERE'S A COUPLE OF AREAS I KNOW FOR SURE THE RIVERWALK AND FOR SURE LAKESIDE DFW PUT IT IN THEIR COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE TO ALLOW THOSE SO IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE WE TALKED TO A BUSINESS OWNER THAT HAS A BUSINESS IN LAKESIDE DFW AND THEN ONE OUTSIDE OF LAKES I DO HE'S LIKE SO I COULD HAVE A SANDWICH BOARD AT THAT PLACE BUT NOT IT AND YES THAT IS ACCURATE BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE ALLOWS IT JUST FOR THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS OKAY, SO IT SAYS IN THE DEFINITION THAT IT'S A SIGN MOUNTED ON A PORTABLE MOVABLE FRAME OR STRUCTURE INCLUDING SIGNS PLACED ON BUT NOT A FIXED TO OR ATTACHED TO THE GROUND PROHIBITED UNLESS SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THIS CHAPTER YEAH, SO WHEN WOULD IT BE SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSED IN THIS CHAPTER? SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ADDED TO THE CODE UNDER THOSE TEMPORARY SIGN REGULATIONS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO UNDER THE TEMPORARY SIGNS, YOU'LL SEE SPECIFIC SIGN TYPES. 
          SO LET ME GET TO THE MORE TEMPORARY ONES. 
          SO COMING SOON, NOW OPEN, GRAND OPENING, NOW HIRING, CHANGE OF BUSINESS OWNERSHIP. 
          THOSE ARE OUR MOST COMMON, JUST LIKE PRETTY SHORT-TERM TEMPORARY SIGNS. 
          YOU IF WE WANTED TO ALLOW EVERYONE TO DO THOSE SANDWICH BOARD TYPE SIGNS, WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD THAT INTO THIS SECTION. 
          CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT SECTION THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED ABOUT GRAND OPENING OR WHAT DID YOU SAY, CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP? WHICH SECTION WAS THAT? SO IT'S 8673. 
          YEP, I'M THERE. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE TO SCROLL PAST ALL THE REAL ESTATE SIGNS, SO TEMPORARY SIGNS, A. 
          B IS SPECIFIC SIGNS. 
          AND THEN IT GOES THROUGH THEM, REAL ESTATE SIGNS, ADVERTISING, SALES, RENTAL. 
          OKAY, SO WE HAVE LIKE 11, CHANGE OF BUSINESS SLASH OWNERSHIP, TEMPORARY SIGN. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY, AND THEN IT HAS A TIME RANGE. 
          I GUESS MAYBE I'M JUST KIND OF THINKING ABOUT THIS. 
          I MEAN, I THINK THE IDEA IS THAT IT WOULDN'T BE A SIGN THAT JUST SAYS FLURRIES, BUT IT MIGHT BE A SIGN THAT SAYS SPECIAL DAY OR SOMETHING MAYBE, SOMETHING THAT IS A BIT RELEVANT TO WHATEVER'S HAPPENING AT THAT. 
          MOMENT, YOU KNOW, CATERING, THAT MAYBE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD SOMETHING HERE THAT GIVES YOU THE ABILITY TO PUT YOUR TODAY'S SPECIAL IN FRONT OF YOUR RESTAURANT OR... 
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AN ANNOUNCEMENT. 
          YEAH, AN ANNOUNCEMENT SIGN. 
          I'D BE FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND, YOU KNOW, A LASER FOCUSED... 
          YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE SIGN ORDINANCE, NOT JUST LET'S LOOK AT EVERYTHING AND, YOU KNOW, REEVALUATE EVERYTHING, BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT SPECIFICALLY, PERHAPS LOOK AT STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE REAL ESTATE OPEN HOUSE SIGNS TO DIG INTO THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, AND INCLUDING AND BEING SPECIFIC ABOUT THE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, LET'S ALSO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT, WHEN YOU CAN LEAVE THE A-FRAME, WHEN YOU CANNOT USE THE A-FRAME. 
          WHAT KIND OF BUSINESSES IS APPLIED TO HOW LONG CAN IT STAY OUT ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS WHICH I KNOW THAT WILL DO SO RIGHT, SO I THINK THAT WOULD HELP A LOT AND NOT OVER OVERNIGHT WHEN THE BUSINESS IS OPEN DRAIN OPERATION SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING SOME SHORT WINS TO ADDRESS THE IMMEDIATE ISSUES BUT SCIENCE TENDS TO BE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT COMES UP A BIT COULD WE DO A HEALTH CHECK BECAUSE I WHEN WHEN I FIRST CAME INTO COUNCIL WE DID A BACKDOOR MEETING WHERE WE WENT THROUGH WHAT PERMITS FLOWER MOUND REQUIRES AND WHICH ONES DOES HIGHLAND VILLAGE REQUIRE IN LOUISVILLE. 
          CAN WE DO SOMETHING SIMILAR FOR SIGNAGE TO SEE WHAT DIFFERENTIATES US COMPARED TO OUR SURROUNDING CITIES? AND IF WE'RE OVER-REGULATING SIGNAGE, WE CAN UNDERSTAND? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO KIND OF DO A COMPARISON OF OUR SURVEY CITIES, WE'RE MORE THAN OPEN TO DO THAT. 
          I THINK WE'RE PRETTY RESTRICTIVE, AND THE TOWN HAS BEEN FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME. 
          SO WE'RE HAPPY TO... 
          CONTRAST AND COMPARE. 
          SO WE DID DO A, THE PERMANENT SIGN AND THE MASONRY, AND WE HAD MADE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THAT RECENTLY, NOT THAT LONG AGO, AS I RECALL. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CRACK THAT OPEN AGAIN. 
          I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON DIGI BOARD TYPE SIGNS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. 
          THIS SECTION ON TEMPORARY SIGNAGE, WHICH I THINK INCLUDES THE REAL ESTATE SIGN AS WELL, WHICH I, WHICH WHEN I SEE HERE, IT SAYS FIVE SIGNS OFFSITE. 
          IS THAT WHERE THEY GASPED? THEY CAN ONLY HAVE FIVE? YES. 
          SO THEY MENTIONED THAT IF YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS THREE SEPARATE ENTRANCES AND THEN YOU TAKE A COUPLE OF TURNS ONCE YOU'RE INSIDE THE SUBDIVISION, THERE'S NO WAY TO GET PEOPLE TO THAT OPEN HOUSE FROM A MAJOR STREET. 
          ARE YOU ISSUING CITATIONS LEFT AND RIGHT FOR TOO MANY REAL ESTATE SIGNS? I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY COMPLAIN THAT I'M GETTING DINGED FOR TOO MANY REAL ESTATE SIGNS. 
          IS THAT HAPPENING A LOT? THAT'S A QUESTION FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT. 
          I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO, BUT I CAN ANSWER THAT. 
          THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO. 
          IT COMES UP, I CAN THINK OF MAYBE TWO TIMES IN MY TIME. 
          RIGHT, OKAY. 
          SO YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. 
          I GUESS YOUR QUESTION IS DO WE NEED TO, IF NO ONE'S GETTING CITATIONS FOR IT, DOES IT REALLY REQUIRE A MODIFICATION? DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CITATION WAS AT HDL? WAS IT FOR AN A-FRAME SIGN? I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK INTO IT AND GET AN UPDATE. 
          IS THERE ANYBODY WE CAN ASK WHO MIGHT KNOW? OH, HERE HE IS. 
          THERE'S SOMEBODY RIGHT HERE WHO KNOWS. 
          CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THE CITATION WAS SPECIFICALLY? YEAH, IT WAS FOR, I THINK THEY'RE SEVEN FOOT TALL, JUST LITTLE FLAG SIGNS THAT WERE PUT UP. 
          OKAY, JUST TO KIND OF STICK IN THE GROUND, FLAPPING IN THE WIND TYPE? YEAH, STEEL BASE ON IT. 
          FOR A DAY. 
          YEAH, I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TWO CITATIONS FOR OUR SANDWICH BOARDS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS JUST OUT FOR A DAY? YEAH, IT WAS JUST RIGHT OUT FRONT. 
          YEAH, FOR ONE DAY. 
          AND YOU HAD A PERMIT FOR THIS? THE EVENT YOU JUST NOT FOR THE LIVES OKAY SO OUR STAFF WAS ABLE TO SEND ME SOME DETAILS LUCKILY THEY HAVE THEIR COMPUTERS BACK THERE SO AS I MENTIONED UM SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT REQUIRES OUR LIMITS A CERTAIN KIND OF SIGN TYPE SO ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED AND IT LOOKS LIKE AARON YOU'RE LOOKING AT DOING THIS AGAIN JULY 5TH AND MAYBE UM AUGUST 30TH YES, SO ON THE SITE PLAN IT SHOWED WHERE THE VENDOR LOCATIONS WERE GOING TO BE BUT NO INDICATION OF WHERE THE SIGNAGE IS GOING TO BE. 
          THE SIGNAGE HAS TO BE SHOWN ON THE PLAN SO THAT'S WHAT THE LOOKING AT THE CODE CASE. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE CITATION WAS IS BASICALLY THESE AREN'T ON THE PLAN SO YOU HAVE TO REMOVE THEM. 
          SO IF YOU'RE ALREADY IN PERMIT FOR THOSE NEXT EVENTS I HIGHLY RECOMMEND FIGURING OUT WHAT SIGNS YOU WANT MAKE SURE THAT THOSE PLANS ARE UPDATED SO THAT WHEN BECAUSE WE'RE RIGHT NEXT TO YOU. 
          UNFORTUNATELY, WE SEE ONE OUT THE DOOR YOU'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PLANS THAT WERE APPROVED FOR THE PERMIT. 
          YEAH, FOR SURE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND ENFORCEMENT APPROACH? IF I CAN ADD ONE MORE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I'M SURE THAT HE RECEIVED A NOTICE OF VIOLATION. 
          YEAH, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 
          DO WE NOTICE INSTEAD OF BUYING IMMEDIATELY? SORRY, I'M GOING TO TALK AGAIN HERE. 
          RELATED TO THE OPEN HOUSE SIGNS, EVEN THOUGH I DON'T THINK WE ARE IN THE POSITION OF ISSUING A LOT OF NOVS FOR THOSE, I THINK THE REALTORS CONCERNS ARE MORE OF HEY THEY KIND OF WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR WITH OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AND NOT RISK IT BECAUSE THERE ARE 
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CITATIONS THAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG THAT THEY COULD BE SUBJECT TO AGAIN WE DON'T EVER MOVE DIRECTLY TO CITATIONS WE WANT COMPLIANCE SOFT TOUCH, WHITE GLOVE SERVICE, THAT'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT PROVIDES. 
          SO WE'RE ALWAYS MOVING TOWARDS COMPLIANCE WITHOUT CITATION. 
          SO WE START WITH THAT NOV, NOTICE OF VIOLATION, FIRST. 
          THE OTHER THING I MIGHT MENTION IS WE DO HAVE THE CHAMBER PRESIDENT AND ONE OF THEIR BOARD MEMBERS HERE. 
          AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE SANDWICH BOARDS, I KNOW CLAYTON IS WORKING KIND OF IN A COHORT OF THE CHAMBER TO EVALUATE SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH BUSINESS'S FACE IS NOT NECESSARILY RELATED TO ISSUES WITH THE TOWN, ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THEY STRAY INTO IT FROM TIME TO TIME. 
          I THINK IT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT DOWN WITH CLAYTON AND LORI AND ANYBODY IN THAT COHORT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THOSE LASER-FOCUSED SIGNS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT AND BRING FORWARD TO COUNCIL SO WE CAN MAYBE, WORKING WITH OUR BUSINESSES, FIGURE OUT, HEY, WHAT IS IT THAT Y'ALL ARE LOOKING AT? I WOULD HATE TO SPEND A LOT OF OUR TIME COMPARING AND CONTRASTING TO FIGURE OUT THAT WE'RE MISSING THE MARK WITH OUR COMMUNITY HERE IN TOWN. 
          SO THAT COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING. 
          KIND OF SUBSET OF WHAT THE CHAMBER IS HEARING FROM THEIR MEMBERS AND HAVE COUNCIL EVALUATE IT FOR A FUTURE AMENDMENT. 
          WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES OUR COMMUNITY UNIQUE IS THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO COMPARE OURSELVES TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY. 
          WE JUST NEED TO SEE WHAT OUR BUSINESSES NEED. 
          SO I LIKE YOUR APPROACH ON THAT. 
          I DO, TOO. 
          AND I HAVE CLAYTON'S EMAIL ADDRESS AND PHONE NUMBER, SO I'LL BE REACHING OUT TO HIM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I'D SUGGEST WHEN YOU'RE TALKING TO HIM, PERHAPS, IS, YOU KNOW, AS ADAM MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, BOO. 
          THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPERS, TOLL BROTHERS AND LAKESHORE, YOU MENTIONED, THEY KNOW E-TRACKET, THEY KNOW OUR SYSTEMS, THEY KNOW OUR PROCESSES, THEY CAN BREEZE RIGHT THROUGH IT. 
          A LOT OF OUR SMALL BUSINESSES, THEY BUILD SOMETHING, THEY OPEN SOMETHING ONE TIME, AND SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE LESSONS LEARNED AND TO GET PROFICIENT AT OUR PROCESS AND OUR SYSTEMS. WITHOUT WEAKENING OUR PROCESSES AND OUR STANDARDS, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE FOR PERHAPS THE CHAMBER TO WORK WITH POTENTIAL SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMING TO TOWN TO HELP THEM WORK THROUGH THAT PROCESS. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO END WITH THIS ANYWAY, BUT THESE GREAT MINDS THINK ALIKE. 
          WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN, BASED ON A STAFF INITIATIVE, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT SOME TOWN STAFF CAME UP WITH AS A FUTURE PROJECT THAT WE COULD WORK TOWARD, IS WE'RE WORKING ON A SMALL BUSINESS HUB. 
          AND SO DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THE CHAMBER, AND WE'RE TALKING TO OTHER ENTITIES THAT COULD ASSIST WITH THAT BECAUSE WE WANT THERE TO BE KIND OF ONE. 
          GOOD SOURCE OF INFORMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESSES BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT THEY'RE NOT KIND OF OLD HATS AT THIS AND THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES TO HELP THEM THROUGH THE PROCESS AND YOU KNOW WE WE'VE HEARD JUST FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT LIKE TOMMY AND RAY HAVE MET WITH YOU KNOW OTHER THINGS THAT YOU KNOW I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE NECESSARILY THOUGHT OF AND AREN'T NECESSARILY SPECIFIC TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS BUT THINGS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH INSURANCE AND YOU KNOW THINGS YOU NEED TO LOOK FOR FOR WHAT ALL YOU'RE PAYING FOR WHEN YOU'RE SIGNING THAT RENTAL AGREEMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN AND FIGURE OUT WHAT THE BEST WAY TO PRESENT THAT HOW WE CAN ORGANIZE IT TRYING TO MAKE ALL THOSE CONNECTIONS SO THAT WE CAN DIRECT PEOPLE TO ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN PROCESS AS WELL WE HAD A MEETING TODAY AND SO ONCE WE READY TO KIND OF PRESENT THE FIRST PHASE OF THAT. 
          THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'LL TALK TO COUNSEL ABOUT AS WELL AND THAT'S OUR STANDING. 
          I CAN'T HELP MYSELF. 
          SO THIS IS SOMETHING WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT ABOUT I'VE ALREADY MET WITH CLAYTON AND TALKED TO LORI ABOUT THIS CONCEPT. 
          WE'RE STILL DEVELOPING IT RAY AND I HAVE MET WITH NCTC THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL WE'VE MET WITH TENANT BROKERS WE'VE GOT A LEASING BROKER ON OUR LIST AND WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO CONTRACTORS SO JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE COLOR COMMENTARY BEHIND THIS. 
          THIS IS PART OF FLOWER MOUNDS GROWTH ACADEMY THAT WE STARTED LAST YEAR. 
          WE'RE IN OUR SECOND COHORT THIS YEAR. 
          AND SO THIS IS ABOUT THE FIRST, THE INAUGURAL GROUP. 
          AND SO AS PART OF THAT FLOWER MOUND GROWTH ACADEMY, WE'RE TAKING YOUNG MINDS IN OUR ORGANIZATION AND TRYING TO GROW THEM AS LEADERS INTERNALLY. 
          AND PART OF THE CAPSTONE PROJECT OF THAT WAS FOR THE GROUP, WHICH IS ABOUT 20 TO 25 EMPLOYEES THAT WERE SEPARATED INTO SMALLER GROUPS. 
          GROUPS TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP WITH COST OF SERVICES, SOMETHING THAT WAS INNOVATIVE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          AND THIS PARTICULAR GROUP THAT WAS LED BY OUR COMMERCIAL PLANS EXAMINER, JENNY RICHTER, CAME UP WITH THE CONCEPT OF WE NEED TO TRY TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF PORTAL, RESOURCES, TOOLS TO HELP SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THEY'RE AT IN TERMS OF THEY'RE NOT, MOST OF THEM DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO WRITE A CHECK AND HAVE A CONTRACTOR DO IT ALL FOR THEM OR HAVE AN ARCHITECT LEAD THE PROCESS. 
          PROCESS. 
          SO WE'RE STILL IN THE EARLY STAGES OF THAT. 
          WE SEE THAT THERE'S A BUNCH OF PARTNERSHIPS IN THE TOWN, INCLUDING THE CHAMBER. 
          AND I HOPE THAT LORI WILL ALLOW US TO PRESENT AT ONE OF THEIR LUNCHEONS WHEN WE FINALLY GET THIS THING LAUNCHED AND OFF THE GROUND. 
          AND SPEAKING 
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WITH OTHER PARTNERS WITHIN THE TOWN, LIKE I MENTIONED, THE BROKERAGE AGENCIES, THE CONTRACTORS, SMALL PROPERTY OWNERS, BUSINESS OWNERS, AS WELL AS NCTC AND SBDC. 
          WE'RE HOPING THAT WE CAN PRESENT ALL THAT TO THE CHAMBER SO THE WORD OF MOUTH CAN SPREAD. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THAT I HOPE AT THE END OF THIS, IF WE CAN HIT OUR MARK, IS THAT IF ANYBODY IN A SMALL BUSINESS COMMUNITY RUNS INTO SOMEBODY AT THE CHAMBER, IF THEY'RE TALKING TO A BROKER, IF THEY'RE TALKING TO A BANK, IF THEY'RE TALKING TO A LEASING AGENT, THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO HEAR IS YOU NEED TO GO TO THE TOWN'S WEBSITE BECAUSE THEY'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION YOU NEED, THEIR AUTHORITY ON, YOU KNOW, THE BEGINNING TO THE END OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SO I'M HOPING I'M NOT OVERSELLING IT AND MAKING OUR TEAM NERVOUS, BUT I THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT. 
          YOU ARE SELLING IT GOOD. 
          AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD THAT WHEN WE CAN GET THAT LAUNCHED, WE CAN BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL AND UNVEIL IT AND AGAIN, PARTNER WITH THE CHAMBER TO TRY TO GET IT OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I MEAN, THE WEBSITE HAS GROWN SO MUCH SINCE I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL. 
          I MEAN, THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE UPDATE. 
          WHEN I FIRST JOINED, IT WAS REALLY HARD TO SEE THE WHOLE PROCESS. 
          NOW IT'S ALL LAID OUT WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS WITH FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS. 
          SO GOOD JOB. 
          INCLUDING HOW-TO VIDEOS. 
          YEAH, BLOWN AWAY. 
          BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE WEBSITE A LOT, AND I'M ALWAYS SEEING NEW WAYS THAT YOU'VE CONSOLIDATED THE DATA. 
          AND THIS IS REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL. 
          SO, LEXAN, AFTER THIS WEBSITE UPDATE, I KNOW IT CONTINUALLY EVOLVES, BUT I KNOW THERE WERE SOME INITIAL. 
          WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AFTER THE FLOWMAIL CONVOS DEVELOPMENT EDITION. 
          I KNOW SOME OF THOSE INFORMED SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE GONE INTO THE WEBSITE. 
          HAS THERE BEEN A FOLLOW-UP WITH THAT COMMUNITY OR WITH THAT GROUP TO KIND OF ROLL THESE CHANGES OUT? WE SENT, I BELIEVE WE SENT EMAILS TO EVERYBODY THAT HAD PARTICIPATED, LIKE TO LET THEM KNOW THE UPDATES OF CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE AND PROVIDING LINKS TO THINGS. 
          I THINK THAT'S BEEN A LITTLE WHILE AGO. 
          I THINK WE WERE KIND OF THINKING THAT THE NEXT OUTREACH WOULD BE MORE RELATED TO THE SMALL BUSINESS HUB. 
          BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY REACH OUT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF SOMETHING. 
          I MEAN, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AND THEN. 
          SO WE'RE KIND OF BRANCHING OUT IN MORE SPECIFIC WAYS, I WOULD SAY. 
          LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE REALTOR TRAINING, OUR REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT PROFESSIONAL TRAINING. 
          SO WE HAD OUR SECOND ONE OF THOSE THIS MORNING, ACTUALLY. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, WE'VE KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A PRESENTATION THAT TALKS THROUGH A LOT OF THIS DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION, BUT THAT'S SPECIFIC MAYBE MORE TO THE REALTY COMMUNITY AND WHAT YOU WOULD BE LOOKING FOR AND NEED TO KNOW. 
          AND SO THAT INFORMATION IS ALSO AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          SO I WOULD SAY WE DID THE OVERALL AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES AND WE KIND OF GENERALLY LET PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT. 
          AND THEN NOW WE'RE KIND OF DOING A MORE TARGETED APPROACH TO OTHER GROUPS WITHIN THE OVERALL COMMUNITY AS WE IDENTIFY THOSE OPPORTUNITIES. 
          I THINK THAT'S OUR CURRENT STRATEGY. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THANKS. 
          THE ONLY OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS IF THE COUNCIL IS OPEN TO THAT ADDITIONAL. 
          OPEN HOUSE SIGNS, LIKE, OH, YEAH, THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER SIGN CHANGES, I WOULD RECOMMEND WE GO AHEAD AND DO THAT TOO, JUST BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T THINK WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS THAT... 
          WELL, WHY REVISIT IT? WHY DON'T WE JUST DO IT NOW? WELL, I MEAN, I THINK WE'LL, AND WE'LL PROBABLY GET MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT AS WHAT TOMMY WAS TALKING ABOUT, REACHING OUT TO THE CHAMBER. 
          I KNOW THEY HAVE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AS WELL. 
          BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE THAT COMING FORWARD IF Y'ALL ARE GENERALLY SAYING, YES, WE'RE OPEN TO THAT IDEA. 
          NOW, IF YOU WERE JUST LIKE, NO, I FEEL REALLY STRONGLY ABOUT FIVE SIGNS AND THAT'S HOW I WANT IT TO STAY, THEN THAT'S GREAT, TOO. 
          BUT I DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT REALLY TRYING TO ENFORCE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE WE TELL PEOPLE WHAT THE RULES ARE BECAUSE WE EXPECT THEM TO FOLLOW. 
          AND THAT ROLLS UP UNDER SECTION 86, 73, TOO. 
          SO IF WE REVIEW THAT TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE. 
          SECTION AND THAT WOULD KIND OF CAN IT WOULD PUT SOME GUARDRAILS ON THIS IT DOESN'T GET TOO OUT OF SCOPE AND LIKE GET TOO OPEN YEAH, I THINK IF WE WANT TO FOCUS ON LIKE LIKE SAY WE'LL WE'LL BRING IT TO THE COUNCIL TO BLESS THE SCOPE BUT I THINK WHAT I'M HEARING WE'LL GET WITH THE CHAMBER ON THAT YEAH THE OTHER THING. 
          I THINK THE REALTOR GROUP HAD WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WAS LIKE THAT THE HEIGHT OF IT WE CAN CERTAINLY ENGAGE LIKE A I'LL SAY A FOCUS GROUP IF YOU WILL JUST TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN LET THEM KNOW LOOK WE NEED A KIND OF WHAT ARE YOUR TOP THREE RIGHT YOU KNOW SO WE'RE NOT BRINGING COUNCIL FIVE PAGES OF CHANGES LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO WITH THIS FIRST BEFORE WE TRY TO REDO THE ENTIRE ORDINANCE AND OH SORRY UM AND THEN UH TAKING WHAT WE'RE DOING IN THOSE MIXED USE DISTRICTS THAT'S WORKING WELL MAYBE WE EXTEND THAT TO RETAIL AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICTS IF YOU KNOW THAT I DON'T THINK THAT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN LAKESIDE OR UM THE RIVERWALK THAT'S GIVING ME A LOT OF HEARTBURN ON 
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TEMPORARY SIGNS SO MAYBE WE CAN JUST TAKE THAT AND EXTEND IT TO OTHER DISTRICTS WHAT ARE YOU THINKING OF WHAT MEETING APPROXIMATELY COULD WE BRING THIS BACK? WELL, SO WE'VE GOT, I THINK, WHAT A MONTH ARE WE IN, JUNE, JULY? AUGUST IS BUDGET. 
          SEPTEMBER IS BOARD AND COMMISSION APPOINTMENTS. 
          OCTOBER, AT LEAST ONE TOPIC WE'RE BRINGING BACK TO YOU ARE THE TREE INITIATIVES. 
          LET ME GET WITH CLAYTON AND LORI ON KIND OF THE TIMING OF THAT. 
          I THINK IT REALLY DEPENDS ON. 
          HOW DEEP IN THE WEEDS WE GET, HONESTLY. 
          BUT I THINK THE FIRST AVAILABLE SLOT IS GOING TO BE OCTOBER. 
          IF WE DON'T ADD ADDITIONAL THINGS TO IT, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN GET THERE, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT FIRST AND WHAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE. 
          IT'S JUST BECAUSE WE DO SUCH A GOOD JOB, IT TAKES A WHILE. 
          I KNOW, AND WE CAN PROVIDE SOME HIGH-LEVEL UPDATES BECAUSE JULY 30TH AND AUGUST 1ST IS THE STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT. 
          CREATE A SPACE JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE GOING. 
          I APPRECIATE STAFF WORKING ON THIS. 
          AND THANK YOU TO THE CHAMBER COMING OUT. 
          IF Y'ALL DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME, I WAS GOING TO INTRODUCE KRISTA. I ORIGINALLY HAD SOMETHING I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT WE'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT, SO I'LL JUST LET KRISTA COME UP. 
          OKAY, GOOD EVENING. 
          KRISTA CROWE, PROPERTY STANDARDS. 
          SO LEXAN DID A GREAT JOB OUTLINING FOR US WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. 
          TYPICALLY, CODE ENFORCEMENT IS DEALING WITH POST-DEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES. 
          WE DO HAVE CASES THAT WE'RE WORKING WHEN IT'S A VACANT OR IN BETWEEN OR ON CERTAIN TYPES OF VIOLATIONS, BUT IN GENERAL, MOST OF WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS POST-DEVELOPMENT. 
          AND WE WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FOR YOU TODAY OF WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE. 
          SO FOR FLOWER MOUND, OUR APPROACH TO CODE ENFORCEMENT IS PROACTIVE, WHICH IS IN LINE WITH INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES. 
          SO THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE ISSUES WITH FAVORITISM OR NEIGHBOR WARS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          WE'RE ALSO APPLYING THE SCIENCE OF BUILDINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED FROM OUR FRIENDS IN BUILDING INSPECTIONS, ET CETERA, ON. 
          WHERE ARE WE GOING TO SEE PROBLEMS ON A HOUSE FIRST? SO WE'RE TRYING TO IDENTIFY PROBLEMS ON A PROPERTY WHILE THEY ARE A CODE VIOLATION, BUT WHILE THEY'RE ON THE MINOR END OF A CODE VIOLATION, NOT A MORE EXPENSIVE END OF THE CODE VIOLATION. 
          SO FOR FLOWER MOUND, YOUR AVERAGE CODE OFFICER, OF WHICH YOU HAVE SIX, RECALL THAT IN 2025 YOU ALL ADDED A SIXTH CODE OFFICER. 
          THAT WAS OUR FIRST ADDITION SINCE 2008. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THEY HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL. 
          SO EACH HAS A BEAT. 
          SO WE HAVE SIX BEATS AND EACH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR PATROLLING THEIR AREA AS WELL AS RESPONDING TO COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC OR CONCERNS FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          IN GENERAL, A GIVEN COMPLAINT WE RECEIVE, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE TIME OF DAY WE GET IT, WE'LL SEE IT SAME DAY OR WE'RE SEEING IT WITHIN 48 HOURS, USUALLY. 
          ALL OF OUR CODE OFFICERS DO BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL CODE. 
          AND THEN WHAT I LET THE PUBLIC KNOW IS THAT WE ARE FOCUSED ON HEALTH, SAFETY, AND MINIMUM PROPERTY STANDARDS. 
          SO WE ARE NOT ABLE TO ENFORCE THEIR HOA, COVENANTS, CODES, AND RESTRICTIONS, NOR CAN WE ENFORCE ANY DEED RESTRICTIONS. 
          I'LL SHOW YOU THE MAP IN A SECOND. 
          BUT IN GENERAL THE AVERAGE CODE OFFICER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR DRIVING AND SEEING EVERY PARCEL IN THEIR BEAT ONCE A MONTH. 
          AND KIND OF ON AVERAGE, IT'S ABOUT 4,800 PARCELS EACH. 
          AND RECALL THAT ESPECIALLY FOR SOME OF THOSE COMMERCIAL PARCELS, THERE MAY BE ONE TO TEN COMMERCIAL SUITES ON THAT LOT. 
          SO HERE'S OUR CURRENT BEAT MAP. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE WE'VE GOT SMALLER LOTS. 
          OLDER PARTS OF TOWN, OLDER PROPERTY, OR LIKE ALSO IN BEAT ONE WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMMERCIAL. 
          SO YOU CAN SEE DIFFERENT DIFFERENT STRATEGIES THERE. 
          SO LOOKING AT AN OVERVIEW OF OUR PROCESS, LIKE I SAID MOST OF IT WE ARE IDENTIFYING OURSELVES, BUT A PORTION OF OUR CASES DO COME IN AS COMPLAINTS FROM THE PUBLIC WHICH WE'RE INVESTIGATING. 
          SO OUR FIRST STEP IS REALLY LOOKING ON THE TOP RIGHT WE HAVE SHARON THERE. 
          SHE TAKES OUR CALLS, SHE'S GETTING IT IN THE SYSTEM, GETTING IT ASSIGNED, BUT THAT STEP ONE IS US IDENTIFYING THE VIOLATION OR 
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GETTING CURIOUS, SOMETHING THAT WE THINK, OKAY, I NEED TO RESEARCH THIS SOME MORE, OR GOING TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS. 
          THAT INVESTIGATION AND RESEARCH, THAT IS THE PORTION OF OUR JOB THAT... 
          I THINK IS IT A LITTLE INVISIBLE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE. 
          IT TAKES UP MORE TIME THAN PEOPLE WOULD THINK, ESPECIALLY WHEN WORKING ZONING CASES. 
          WE ARE READING YOUR PDS, SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE ASSIGNED THEM, LOOKING AT THEIR LANDSCAPE PLANS, THAT SORT OF THING. 
          AND THEN SOMETIMES, TOO, WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WE ANTICIPATE THAT THERE'S AN ISSUE, WE'RE NOT 100% EXACTLY WHAT IT IS OR SAY WHAT PERMIT THEY NEED TO CORRECT THIS, AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING BACK, ENGAGING. 
          OUR TEAMMATES IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND BUILDING INSPECTIONS, ENGINEERING, FLOODPLAIN MANAGEMENT, TALKING TO THOSE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS TO SEE WHAT INFORMATION DO WE NEED TO IDENTIFY WHAT IS HAPPENING ON THE PROPERTY, AS WELL AS WHAT ARE THE ALLOWED SOLUTION SETS FOR THE GIVEN SITUATION IN TERMS OF HOW THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD TO CORRECT IT. 
          BUT ONCE WE'VE DONE THOSE PIECES, WE'RE ISSUING THAT NOTICE OF VIOLATION. 
          PER THE CODE, IT DEPENDS ON THE VIOLATION AS TO HOW LONG THEY HAVE TO CORRECT IT. 
          IN GENERAL, IT AVERAGES 7 TO 10 DAYS. 
          USUALLY, WE'RE LEAVING A DOOR HANGER AT THE DOOR AS A WARNING, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A PHOTO OF THAT IN A MOMENT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S TYPICALLY OUR FIRST NOTICE OF VIOLATION, LEAVING IT AT THE DOOR. 
          IT'LL HAVE A COMPLIANCE DATE ON IT, INSTRUCTIONS FOR WHAT THEY NEED TO DO. 
          IT HAS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          THEY DO EVERYTHING RIGHT, WE COME BACK, RE-INSPECTION, EVERYTHING'S CORRECTED, WE CLOSE OUR CASE. 
          IF NOT, THEN WE'RE SEEING, OKAY, HAVE THEY MADE PROGRESS? WHAT DO WE NEED TO ISSUE AN ADDITIONAL NOTICE ON? WHAT'S CHANGED? DEPENDING ON THE VIOLATION, WE'RE REACHING OUT TO THEM THROUGH ALTERNATIVE MEANS AS WELL. 
          BUT IN GENERAL, IT'S WARNING, RE-INSPECTION, IF NOT CORRECTED, ADDITIONAL NOTICES. 
          THEN ULTIMATELY IF NEEDED IT COULD BE CORRECTION BY CITATION AND OR THIRD PARTY CONTRACTOR AT PROPERTY OWNER EXPENSE. 
          AND THEN LOOKING AT THE PHOTOS AGAIN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE CODE OFFICERS HAVE IPADS SO KIND OF ALL THE INFORMATION THAT LEXAN AND JOELLE WERE GOING OVER WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT IN THE FIELD SO THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFICIENT, SEE IN REAL TIME WHAT PERMITS EXIST, WHAT'S ON THAT PERMIT ETC AND THEN YOU CAN SEE ONE OF OUR FORMER CODE OFFICERS COURTNEY NOW AT THE FIRE MARSHAL'S OFFICE DOING SOME RESEARCH. 
          THIS IS WHAT THAT DOOR HANGER NOTICE LOOKS LIKE THAT WAS DESCRIBING. 
          SO PEOPLE WILL RECEIVE A WRITTEN NOTICE AT THEIR DOOR THAT WILL BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE ISSUE, PROVIDE WHATEVER DETAILS THEY NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEIR NEXT STEP, AND THEN IT HAS OUR CONTACT INFORMATION ON IT SO THEY CAN CALL US IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE VIOLATION. 
          QUESTION ABOUT WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO CORRECT IT OR JUST SORT OF GENERAL QUESTIONS. 
          I ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE, YEAH, KEEP THAT BECAUSE YOUR CODE OFFICER, THEY ARE THE EXPERT FOR YOUR AREA, THEY'RE THE CARETAKER FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          THEY CAN HELP YOU FIND THE RIGHT SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT IN THE TOWN WHEN YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          SO WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO KEEP THAT INFORMATION. 
          BUT THAT'S WHAT A TYPICAL NOTICE LOOKS LIKE. 
          NOW, DEPENDING ON THE NOTICE, IT MAY INCLUDE A PRE-PRINTED LABEL TO, AGAIN, HELP US BE VERY CLEAR, GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT NOTICE SO THAT, AGAIN, THAT CAN BE SUCCESSFUL OUT OF THE GATE. 
          AND THAT WAS A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. 
          ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I CAN ADDRESS FOR YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT, ACTUALLY. 
          I JUST WANTED FULL TRANSPARENCY ON THAT. 
          I THOUGHT IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION JUST TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMUNITY. 
          BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          DID YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS? THE ONLY THING I HAD TO PUT IT DOWN WAS IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A SENSE OF HOW MANY NOTICES OR VIOLATIONS YOU'RE SEEING FOR SIGNS SPECIFICALLY. 
          FOR SIGNS, I COULDN'T SEE. 
          SAY OFFHAND, IT IS ONE OF OUR TOP 10 VIOLATIONS ON OUR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES. 
          IT'S DEFINITELY OUR TOP OR SECOND VIOLATION. 
          AND AGAIN, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT, AND IF YOU WOULD RECALL, LEXAN ALSO BROUGHT THIS UP DURING THE LAND DEVELOPMENT, THE LAST LAND DEVELOPMENT REVIEW UPDATE WE DID, A REGULATION UPDATE WE DID, THAT YES, THERE WERE SOME SIGN ORDINANCES THAT WE WERE SEEKING TO ADDRESS OR GET ADDITIONAL FEEDBACK ON. 
          BECAUSE TO REVISIT THE A-FRAME SIGN A LITTLE BIT, WE HAVE 
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AT THIS TIME KIND OF GRANTED ALLOWANCES FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE A-FRAME SIGNS IF THEY'RE JUST NOW HIRING OR IF IT'S JUST FOR CURBSIDE PICKUP. 
          SO IT'S NOT ADVERTISING. 
          IT'S JUST FOR THOSE ITEMS. THOSE WERE SAFETY ITEMS THAT YOU ALL HAD OR THAT WE HAD DISCUSSED WITH YOU ALL DURING COVID, BUT WE HAD NOT HAD A CHANCE TO REVISIT THOSE WITH YOU ALL AGAIN. 
          SO. 
          SO IT WOULD BE GOOD TO REVISIT SOME OF THOSE ORDINANCES AND AND YES IT THESE ARE COMMON VIOLATIONS BUT IT DOES IT IS SORT OF A SWATH OF VIOLATIONS EVERYTHING FROM UNPERMITTED WORK SIGNS THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE, ET CETERA. 
          IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW, AND THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO ANOTHER WORK SESSION, BUT BY EMAIL MAYBE WHAT ARE THE TOP TEN RESIDENTIAL AND TOP TEN COMMERCIAL VIOLATIONS, JUST TO UNDERSTAND IT A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          OH, SURE. 
          AND I COULD TELL YOU GENERALLY YOU'RE GOING TO SEE YOUR NUISANCE VIOLATIONS AT THE TOP, SO HIGHWAYS AND GRASS, TRASH AND DEBRIS, TREE LIMBS TOO LOW OVER SIDEWALKS AND STREETS. 
          YOU WOULD ALSO SEE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE, FENCE MAINTENANCE, WORK WITHOUT PERMIT, SIGNS. 
          PARKING AND THEN KIND OF THE OTHER TWO CAN BE OUTLIERS DEPENDING ON THE GIVEN WEATHER FOR A YEAR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YEAH THANK YOU SO MUCH LEXAN AND KRISTA. 
          THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION. 
          SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT TOGETHER SOON FOR ONE OF OUR NEXT MEETINGS FOR THOSE REVISIONS. 
          ALL RIGHT, WELL LET'S MOVE FORWARD TO THE TOWN COUNCIL BUDGET WORK SESSION. 
          AND JAMES, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK ON THIS AT ALL? YES, MA'AM, I DID. 
          JUST BY WAY OF INTRODUCTION, THIS IS THE SECOND OF A SERIES OF THREE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE FOR YOU AS WE RAMP UP OUR FY27 BUDGET PROCESS. 
          THIS EVENING, OUR DIRECTOR OF BUDGET AND STRATEGY, TRAGEDY, STRATEGY. 
          MAGGIE HUCKABEE IS GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION, BUT I JUST WANT TO GO BACK AND REFERENCE THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ON THE FIRST, AND THAT WAS THE FIRST CONVERSATION THAT WAS ROOTED IN JUST OVERALL FRAMING THE FINANCIAL SITUATION AND STRUCTURAL CHALLENGES THAT WE FIND OURSELVES IN AT THIS POINT. 
          AND JOHN GAVE A GOOD PRESENTATION THAT SPARKED SOME GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT TOWN'S POSITION, THE POSITION OF A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES IN THE WAKE OF SENATE BILL 2, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED WAS THE CONCEPT OF A VOTER APPROVAL TAX RATE ELECTION, OR VATER, AND THE CONTEXT THAT I BROUGHT, IT'S INEVITABLE. 
          NOW, THE CAVEAT TO THAT, AND SOMETIMES CONTEXT IS VERY IMPORTANT, SERVICE LEVEL IS A BIG COMPONENT THAT PLAYS INTO THAT. 
          IF YOU MAKE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO LOWER YOUR SERVICE LEVELS AND THE REQUISITE FUNDING THAT... 
          BECAUSE OF THOSE SERVICE LEVELS, YOU CAN AVOID POTENTIALLY HAVING TO GO TO THE VOTERS AND ASK FOR SOMETHING FOR REVENUE OVER THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          AND THE SERVICE LEVEL DISCUSSION IS REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT. 
          AND WE WANT TO BRING THAT INTO FOCUS HERE THIS EVENING. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE POINTED OUT AND OUR DEPUTY PRO TEM POINTED IT OUT IS THAT ON SOME LEVEL, WE'RE ALREADY MAKING ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS TO CUT BACK SERVICE LEVELS. 
          AND THE PRIME EXAMPLE THAT WE SHARED AND I'LL SHARE AGAIN IS JUST CHIEF KULAN. 
          MAKE A DECISION BECAUSE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, I DIDN'T RECOMMEND OR FUND ANY PERSONNEL IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          HE NEEDED A PERSONNEL OFFICER. 
          SO HE MADE A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO GO IN HIS BUDGET AND CANNIBALIZE THE COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER TO GET THE PERSONNEL OFFICER. 
          AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN IN HERE IS EMPOWER MY DIRECTORS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS. 
          THEY COME TO ME ALL THE TIME, SAY, HEY, JAMES, I REALLY WANT TO DO THIS. 
          AND SOMETIMES THE ANSWER IS YOU'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK IN YOUR BUDGET. 
          AND THAT'S HOW THEY GO ABOUT DOING IT. 
          BUT THE REALITY IS WE NEED THAT COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICER. 
          SO WE'RE MAKING A CONSCIOUS DECISION TO PULL THINGS BACK. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS, AND IN MY CONVERSATION WITH MEG, THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT SHE POINTED OUT, AND SHE'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          WE WANT TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE I WASN'T ELECTED. 
          I DON'T NEED TO BE MAKING POLICY DECISIONS. 
          AND WHEN WE GET INTO THESE BIGGER AREAS AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR TAX RATE AND THE BOTTOM LINE TO OUR RESIDENTS, THAT'S DECISIONS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE AS A BODY, NOT ME AS THE TOWN MANAGER. 
          WITH THOSE THINGS, I THINK WE DO HAVE THE DISCRETION TO MAKE THOSE SINGULAR DECISIONS ON THAT LEVEL TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE WANT TO PROVIDE SERVICES. 
          BUT WHEN WE GET BROADER IN THERE, THAT'S A Y'ALL DECISION. 
          AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO HERE THIS EVENING IS THAT WE HAVE A VERY HIGH LEVEL PRESENTATION THAT WE WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL. 
          AND WE ARE GOING TO SHARE WITH YOU THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE MOVING FORWARD. 
          AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU ON THE FIRST WHEN WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, OUR DECISION PACKAGES ARE IN A UNIQUE STATE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE. 
          USUALLY THEY REPRESENT SERVICE LEVEL ENHANCEMENTS, BUT ON SOME LEVEL, KIND OF WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW, DECISIONS THAT WE'VE MADE TO MAINTAIN OUR TAX RATE, THERE 
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ARE OFTENTIMES THINGS THAT WE VERY MUCH NEED. 
          AND WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS SHARE THOSE WITH YOU HERE THIS EVENING. 
          THE ONE CAVEAT I PUT YOU, WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY DECISIONS TONIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO GIVE US ANY DIRECTION. 
          WE JUST WANT TO SUPPLY YOU WITH THIS INFORMATION. 
          ALSO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET GRANULAR TONIGHT. 
          YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE DECISION PACKAGE A, PERSONNEL, DESCRIPTION, AND ALL THOSE DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS. 
          TRUST ME, YOU GOT A MONTH AND A HALF. 
          I KNOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE CHOMPING AT THE BIT. 
          YOU WILL HAVE THE PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DIVE INTO THE SPECIFICS OF SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS, AND WE DEFINITELY WANT YOU TO, TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. 
          BUT THIS EVENING, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT AT 30,000 FEET, JUST GIVE YOU A SENSE IN BROAD CATEGORIES TIED TO OUR STRATEGIC PLAN, WHERE SOME OF THESE DECISION PACKAGES ARE GOING TO COME INTO, AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT PERSONNEL NUMBER. 
          AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD CONVERSATION BECAUSE OUR REFERENCE IS THAT WE HAVE SOME KEY DECISIONS WITH OUR PERSONNEL NUMBERS AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP ON OUR WEST SIDE. 
          AND WE'LL SHARE THAT HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING. 
          SO WE'RE GOING TO KEEP IT HIGH. 
          BUT CERTAINLY WE WANT TO SPARK YOUR THOUGHT, GET YOUR GENERAL IDEAS, HELP FRAME YOUR THOUGHTS AS YOU GO AND START LOOKING AT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AT THE END OF JULY. 
          AND JUST TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, THOUGHTS, FEEDBACK YOU HAVE THIS EVENING. 
          SO I THINK I'VE TALKED LONG ENOUGH AND I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MEG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          SO YES, WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS VERY HIGH LEVEL, BUT IN SOME WAYS WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO PULL BACK THE CURTAIN ON THE PROCESS. 
          THESE ARE ALL THE CONVERSATIONS THAT STAFF HAS EACH BUDGET CYCLE BEFORE WE EVER BRING YOU A PROPOSED BUDGET. 
          BUT AS JAMES DID SAY, WE'RE GETTING TO THIS POINT WHERE THE DECISIONS WE MAKE ARE GRANULAR AND TO GET TO THE CUTS, IF IT'S THE COUNCIL'S DECISION THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO BRING IT. 
          TO THE VOTERS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION OF WHAT DO THEY WANT AS A SERVICE LEVEL AND UNDER THAT CONSIDERATION, WHICH IS A PERFECTLY FINE AND VALID DECISION, BUT IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE US TO LOOK AT SERVICE CUTS WITHIN THE BUDGET AND ORGANIZATION. 
          AND SO OUR HOPE HERE IS THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE BEEN HAVING SINCE OCTOBER, THAT WE'RE HELPING YOU AT LEAST HAVE THE FOUNDATIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF CONSEQUENCES OF DECISIONS SO THAT THE CUT'S NOT JUST RANDOM, THAT THEY ARE VERY SURGICAL AND THEY GET TO THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WHILE WORKING WITHIN THOSE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS WE HAVE. 
          SO I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THE WORK THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS DO DO BECAUSE WE DO CHARGE THEM EACH YEAR, STAY WITHIN YOUR TARGET BUDGET. 
          AND I WILL SHOUT OUT POLICE AGAIN. 
          THEY JUST IDENTIFIED A SOFTWARE THAT WE'VE BEEN PAYING FOR, HAVE BEEN IN NEED, BUT THEY FOUND THAT IN THE PRACTICE, OF THE SOFTWARE, IT WASN'T BEING UTILIZED EFFECTIVELY. 
          IT WASN'T MEETING THE NEED, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE WAS ANOTHER SOFTWARE THAT THEY REALLY DID NEED AND THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE MORE IMMEDIATE RETURN ON INVESTMENT. 
          THEY SAID GREAT, WE'RE GONNA SUNSET THIS SOFTWARE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO THIS SOFTWARE, NO BUDGET REQUESTS NEEDED. 
          AND SO ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, I COULD GIVE YOU OTHER EXAMPLES, THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING. 
          THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR LINE ITEMS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THEIR TARGET AND IN MANY CASES AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO TOUCH A WHOLE LOT ON THE NON-DISCRETIONARIES TONIGHT, BUT IN MANY CASES WHERE THEY WOULD BE VERY VALID TO PUT IN A NON-DISCRETIONARY, THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND THE SAVINGS AND NOT DONE SO. 
          SO OUR DEPARTMENTS REALLY ARE DOING THEIR PART TO HELP MAKE THIS PROCESS AS EASY AND SMOOTH AS POSSIBLE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF HARD WORK THAT GOES IN ON THE DEPARTMENT LEVEL, SO I DO WANT TO POINT THAT OUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THESE DECISION PACKAGE PIECES. 
          SO THIS IS A GRAPH. 
          THIS IS GENERAL FUND ONLY. 
          AND YOU CAN SEE HERE 75% OF OUR BUDGET IS PERSONNEL. 
          IT IS OUR PEOPLE. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ARE A SERVICE-DRIVEN ORGANIZATION. 
          THE ONLY WAY TO DRIVE SERVICE IS TO HAVE PEOPLE TO DELIVER IT. 
          AND EVEN IF YOU LOOK AT THAT CONTRACTUAL AMOUNT, YES, IT LOOKS LIKE A PRETTY BIG NUMBER. 
          BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU COULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE DOING THAT TO AVOID ADDING EVEN MORE TO PERSONNEL. 
          BECAUSE THINGS IN CONTRACTUAL WILL INCLUDE MOWING. 
          THAT'S IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          AND SO RATHER THAN PAYING FOR A MOWING CREW AND THE EQUIPMENT, WE CHOOSE TO CONTRACT IT INSTEAD. 
          SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE NEED PEOPLE TO DELIVER SERVICES, AND UNFORTUNATELY THAT MEANS SERVICE CHANGES MIGHT COME WITH SOME TOUGH DISCUSSIONS. 
          NOW, JAMES, WE WOULD WORK WITH TO DO IT THROUGH ATTRITION, TO DO IT THROUGH VACANCY, FREEZING, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T WANT TO AFFECT OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE. 
          DOING A REALLY GREAT JOB DELIVERING OUR SERVICES. 
          BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S NOT A LOT LEFT TO PLAY WITH WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND I THINK MEG DID A GOOD JOB OF FRAMING IT, BUT I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT DISCLAIMER OUT THERE. 
          THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE INDICATING OR TIPPING OUR HANDS OR ADVOCATING FOR. 
          IT'S JUST REALLY WHEN YOU GET DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF MEANINGFUL CUTS, IT'S GOING TO ULTIMATELY COME TO PERSONNEL. 
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AND AS MEG MENTIONED BEFORE, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU TAKE VERY LIGHTLY. 
          AND IF WE SO... 
          DECIDE TO GO IN A DIRECTION, THAT AREA WHERE WE LOOK AT PERSONNEL, WE WOULD DO IT THROUGH ATTRITION AND THROUGH OTHER MEANS. 
          IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BE A REDUCTION IN FORCE OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, NO DECISIONS ARE BEING MADE, BUT I THINK THIS IS JUST VERY IMPORTANT TO FRAME. 
          HOW YOU SAVE MONEY AND HOW YOU CUT IS PEOPLE. 
          SO DEFINITELY FOR THE LAST TWO BUDGETS, BUT I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING JAMES HAS BEEN WORKING ON WHILE HE'S BEEN HERE AND LEADING UP TO IT, IS MAKING SURE. 
          THAT THE DECISIONS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE ASKS BY THE DEPARTMENTS ARE FUELING WHAT YOU AS COUNCIL HAVE IDENTIFIED AS YOUR FOCUS AREAS AND OF COURSE THIS IS SOMETHING WE REVIEW ANNUALLY BUT WE ALL KNOW, ON THE WHOLE, THESE REALLY DON'T CHANGE. 
          THESE ARE PRETTY MUCH WHAT COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED, WHERE THE FOCUS HAS BEEN. 
          AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK. 
          AND SO AS WE GET INTO THESE INDIVIDUAL REQUESTS, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DIVE INTO THE NITTY-GRITTY DETAILS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO STAY VERY HIGH LEVEL. 
          BUT AS OPPOSED TO THE PAST, THESE REQUESTS REALLY ARE MORE FOCUSED ON KEEPING UP WITH THE EXPANSION OF THE TOWN, THEY'RE NOT NEW THINGS BEING ADDED, NEW SERVICES, NEW PROGRAMS, EXCEPT THERE'S A VERY FEW LIMITED EXCEPTIONS WHERE THERE'S SOME IDEAS. 
          SO WHEN WE LOOK AT SUPERIOR QUALITY OF LIFE, THIS IS REALLY JUST MAINTAINING THE ASSETS WE HAVE. 
          SO THESE ARE PRIMARILY OUR FACILITIES REQUESTS. 
          THERE'S SOME SENIOR CENTER IMPROVEMENTS. 
          IF YOU'VE BEEN DOWN TO OUR ANIMAL ADOPTION CENTER, DOGS HAVE CLAWS. 
          THEY LIKE TO JUMP ON THE WINDOWS, SO THEY'VE ASKED TO HAVE THOSE WINDOWS REPLACED SO THAT ANYONE COMING LOOKING AT THE ANIMALS COULD SEE THEM A LITTLE MORE CLEARLY. 
          SO AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL MAINTENANCE REQUESTS. 
          NOTHING BIG, NOTHING FLASHY. 
          THESE ARE JUST THOSE FACILITY ITEMS. YOU KNOW, IT DOES INCLUDE THE AC AT THE CHIN CHAPEL CONCESSION STAND IS ONE OF THE REQUESTS ON THIS LIST. 
          ENVIRONMENT AND COUNTRY FEEL. 
          SO THIS IS COMING OUT OF OUR PARKS TEAM, SO THIS IS OUR IRRIGATION CREW AND OUR TREE CREW. 
          SO IT IS PEOPLE, IT IS EQUIPMENT, NOT ALL OF THIS WOULD BE ONGOING. 
          BUT JOHN HAS TALKED ABOUT, COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, YOU MENTIONED WHERE THE SERVICE CUT'S COMING. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THOSE. 
          PARKS CAN'T KEEP UP PROACTIVELY ON ALL THE IRRIGATION NEEDS AND ALL THE MEDIANS ON ALL OF THE TREES. 
          SO BY NOT FUNDING THIS, WE'RE HAVING TO MOVE TO A MORE REACTIVE RESPONSE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE OUT LOOKING FOR IT. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE COMPLAINTS COME IN. 
          IF WE DON'T HAVE THE CREW ON SITE, WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK TO SEE IF WE NEED TO PULL IN A CONTRACTOR. 
          SO THAT'S KIND OF WHAT'S COMING HERE. 
          AND THIS ONE COMES WITH A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S ATTEMPTING TO ADDRESS THAT FOCUS AREA THAT HAS BEEN A PRIORITY OF COUNCIL. 
          THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO DO IT ON A PROACTIVE BASIS. 
          PARKS AND COMMUNITY MINIS, THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL FIND A FEW OF THE NEW THINGS. 
          PARKS WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL EVENTS. 
          THEY'VE GOT SOME PROPOSALS THERE. 
          WE'RE NOT TALKING BIG DOLLARS. 
          WE'RE TALKING SOME SMALL COMMUNITY EVENTS. 
          BUT THAT IS IN THOSE REQUESTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          IT ALSO, THOUGH, ADDRESSES THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. 
          SO THE VEHICLE YOU SEE REPRESENTED HERE IS A LIBRARY VEHICLE, SO THAT WHEN THE SELF-SERVICE MACHINE IS INSTALLED OUT WEST, LIBRARY STAFF HAVE A VEHICLE TO GO STOCK IT, PICK UP BOOKS, ETC. 
          THAT IS SOMETHING, AND ACTUALLY BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER CAVEAT, NOT ALL OF THESE ARE FINAL. 
          STAFF IS STILL LOOKING FOR OUR OPTIONS, SO WE ARE EVALUATING. 
          ARE ALL OF OUR FLEET VEHICLES BEING USED TO THEIR FULL CAPACITY? COULD WE ADDRESS THIS NEED WITHOUT ADDING A NEW VEHICLE? SO PLEASE KEEP IN MIND SOME OF THESE I'M SAYING MAY NOT SHOW UP ON YOUR LIST IN AUGUST BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED A DIFFERENT WAY TO ADDRESS THAT NEED. 
          BUT THESE ARE THOSE THINGS THAT ARE COMING IN THESE ITEMS. IT'S RELATED TO THE BOND PACKAGE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. 
          SO CLEARLY SOMETHING THAT STAFF WILL PRIORITIZE ADDRESSING THAT NEED FOR THE LIBRARY. 
          BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE A VOTER REQUEST TO HAVE SERVICE. 
          AND THEN SOME OF THE OTHER ONES, THERE IS A FEW PERSONNEL IN THESE REQUESTS. 
          I SAID JILL, IN THE WORK SHE'S DOING, SHE'S LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE SURE WE CAN RETAIN OUR SPONSORS, TRY TO GROW THAT REVENUE SOURCE. 
          BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY TO MAKE MONEY. 
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AND I'M SORRY, JILL. 
          I'M SORRY, JILL. 
          BOY, I'M STRUGGLING TONIGHT. 
          MEG, SO ON THAT TOO, THERE IS A PERSONNEL REQUEST AS PART OF THAT NUMBER, AND IT'S VERY MUCH TIED TO A CRITICAL DECISION YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE HERE IN THE COMING WEEKS. 
          AND THAT'S IN REGARDS TO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ART CENTER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS BRINGING ON THAT MANAGER EARLY IN THE PROCESS AS WE DESIGN THAT FACILITY. 
          OBVIOUSLY, IT'S TIED TO WHETHER WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE IMMEDIATE FUTURE ON THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, BUT I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THOSE DECISION POINTS THAT ARE IN THERE. 
          IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD IMMEDIATELY ON THE ARTS CENTER OR WE PUT IT ON POP, WHATEVER WE END UP DOING WITH THAT, THAT AFFECTS THAT NUMBER, THAT $417,000 THAT YOU SEE UP THERE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          AGAIN, IT CONTEMPLATES IF WE DO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, OUR CENTER, WE WOULD LOOK TO BRING THAT INDIVIDUAL ON DURING FY27, AND MORE THAN LIKELY WOULD BE TOWARDS THE BACK END. 
          SO WE WOULD NOT HIT THAT EXPENDITURE FOR THE FULL YEAR, BUT IT ALSO CONTEMPLATES THAT. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO A LEGACY FACADE IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM. 
          SO THAT'S THAT MONEY THERE, WHAT THEY'RE CONTEMPLATING, AND FITS IN WITH THAT REQUEST. 
          PUBLIC SAFETY, AGAIN, WE'VE GOT A WIDE SWATH OF REQUESTS. 
          SOME OF THEM HAVE TO DO WITH PAY LEVELS FOR RETENTION ISSUES WITH FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE OFFICERS. 
          IT'S ON BOTH SIDES. 
          SO THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL REQUESTS. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME VEHICLES. 
          WE DO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL. 
          THERE IS SOME SAFETY EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS IN ADMINISTRATING DOSAGES OF MEDICATIONS BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE ACTUAL WEIGHTS OF PATIENTS. 
          I WILL ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THESE ARE ONE-TIME. 
          SO IT MAY BE THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECOMMEND INCLUDING THEM IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, UTILIZING FUND BALANCE, BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE ONE-TIME REQUESTS, AND THAT WOULD BE AN APPROPRIATE USE OF THAT FUND. 
          SO MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING WILL SHOW UP ON THE UNFUNDED LIST, BUT IT WILL BE WITH THOSE TYPE OF CAVEATS AND UNDERSTANDINGS. 
          THERE IS A SOFTWARE IN HERE THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE THAT WOULD USE. 
          I FEEL IS A VERY APPROPRIATE USE OF AI. 
          IT'S SCANNING SOCIAL MEDIA LOOKING FOR THREATS IN MULTI-LANGUAGES. 
          SO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD GIVE PD SOMETHING TO GO OFF OF TO AT LEAST HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE SHOULD WE BE LOOKING. 
          AGAIN, NOT GOING TO REPLACE POLICE WORK, BUT IT CAN HELP DIRECT THEM A LITTLE BIT BETTER. 
          I THINK THAT'S PRETTY HELPFUL. 
          IT DOES ALSO HAVE A REQUEST FROM THE JUDGE. 
          I BELIEVE SHE'LL BE SPEAKING WITH YOU ABOUT IT. 
          TO INCREASE SOME OF THE PAY LEVELS FOR THE ASSOCIATE JUDGES. 
          AND, MEG, BEFORE WE LEAVE PUBLIC SAFETY, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THERE ARE SOME PERSONNEL ADS ON THE PD SIDE, AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS VERY INTRICATE INTO WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING. 
          OFTENTIMES THERE ARE CERTAIN POSITIONS THAT AREN'T SWORN THAT IF WE DO NOT HAVE PEOPLE IN THOSE POSITIONS, WE NOW HAVE SWORN PERSONNEL WORKING THOSE PARTICULAR ROLES. 
          AND IN DETENTION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DETENTION OFFICERS AND A SUPERVISOR. 
          IT'S JUST AT A CERTAIN POINT. 
          IF WE'RE PRESS, WE HAVE TO STAFF THESE THINGS, AND NOW YOU HAVE GUNS AND BADGES DOING THAT. 
          AND SO THAT TAKES AWAY FROM OUR SWORN PERSONNEL THAT GOES OUT ON THE STREET. 
          NOW, DOES IT NECESSITATE NECESSARILY BRINGING ON A POSITION? NO, BUT THAT'S PART OF WHAT, AND I'M GOING TO GO BACK BECAUSE MEG REFERENCED IT, BUT I DIDN'T, IS THAT IF YOU RECALL BACK ON OCTOBER LAST YEAR, WE KICKED OFF THE VALUE OF SERVICE CONVERSATIONS WITH ALL OF OUR FRONTLINE DEPARTMENTS BETWEEN OCTOBER AND DECEMBER. 
          WE STARTED WITH CHIEF KULAN AND HE TOUCHED ON THIS POINT THAT PD NEEDS A LOT OF ADMINISTRATIVE HELP TO ALLOW US TO BE MOST EFFECTIVE OUT IN THE FIELD AND PUT OUR SWORN PERSONNEL OUT THERE. 
          AND WE BOOKED ENDED WITH CHIEF HENLEY TO TALK. 
          THOSE ARE TWO BIGGEST DEPARTMENTS. 
          AND SO WITH THIS, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT OFTENTIMES A REQUEST FOR PERSONNEL IN AN ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTION IS MEANT TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE OUR SWORN PERSONNEL IS ON THE FRONT LINE. 
          ONCE YOU GET THOSE BUDGETS, YOU CAN GO AND LOOK INTO THE BACKGROUND DATA TO SEE IF THE INTENSITY IS THERE OR THERE'S SUFFICIENT DATA TO SAY, HEY, THIS IS WORTH LOOKING INTO. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT THAT A LOT OF TIMES AN ASK FOR A POSITION IS MEANT TO FULLY REALIZE AND BE ABLE TO FULLY UTILIZE ANOTHER POSITION OUT IN THE FIELD. 
          MOVING ON TO INFRASTRUCTURE, THIS IS FOCUSING IN ON OUR TRAFFIC SIDE. 
          SO THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE BIG WAR ROOM IN PUBLIC WORKS. 
          WHERE WE HAVE ALL THE SCREENS AND THEY'RE MONITORING THE TRAFFIC CAMERAS, THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING ON A SECOND PERSON THERE. 
          THAT WOULD ALSO REQUIRE SOME UPGRADES INTO THAT ROOM TO MAKE SURE BOTH WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE CAMERAS, ET CETERA. 
          AND SO THAT'S ALL TIED TOGETHER. 
          THERE IS A TRAFFIC SIGNAL IN THIS REQUEST AND THEN SOME TRAILER REPLACEMENTS AND SO FORTH. 
          BUT SUPPORTING THE GENERAL FRONT PORTION 
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OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE SIDE, OF COURSE, WE KNOW WHEN WE GET TO IT, LATER IN AUGUST, UTILITY HAS ITS OWN SET OF REQUESTS. 
          SO THIS IS JUST FOCUSED ON THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL SIDE. 
          AND THEN WE GET TO FINANCIAL STABILITY AND OPERATIONAL SOUNDNESS. 
          SO THIS IS REALLY WHERE YOU'RE FINDING THOSE BACK-END INTERNAL SERVICES REQUESTS. 
          SO IT IS STILL SOME MAINTENANCE REQUESTS THAT SHOWS UP HERE TOO. 
          WE NEED TO DO SOME FIRE STATION HVAC REPLACEMENTS. 
          WE'VE GOT SOME UPGRADES TO THE FLEET SERVICE CENTER. 
          AND THEN WE'VE GOT SOME REQUESTS OUT OF HR AND IT. 
          SO A HELP DESK SUPERVISOR SO THAT WE HAVE BETTER MANAGEMENT SPAN OF CONTROL AND WE DON'T HAVE OUR MIS MANAGERS SPENDING ALL THIS TIME DOING TROUBLESHOOTING. 
          SO TRYING TO ADD THAT EXTRA LAYER SO WE CAN SUPPORT OUR EMPLOYEES SO THEY CAN DO THEIR JOBS MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          AND SO WE'VE GOT ALL OF THAT IN THERE. 
          AGAIN, A GOOD PART OF THIS $382,000 WILL BE ONE TIME. 
          SO AGAIN, YOU MAY SEE THOSE COME FORWARD AS REQUESTED, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO FIND THE BALANCE OF EVERYTHING. 
          MEG, BEFORE YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I ALSO WANT TO REFERENCE, AND IT'S SOMEWHAT TIED TO THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD, IS THAT THERE'S A REQUEST FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR AN APPLICATION ADMINISTRATOR. 
          IT'S TIED TO E-TRACKET. 
          NOW, THIS POSITION DOESN'T NECESSARILY HELP SOME OF THE OUTWARD-FACING COMPONENTS THAT WE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, BUT IT HELPS IN THE BACK OF HOUSE BECAUSE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE WORK GROUPS THAT USE E-TRACKET, AND IT'S LIKE A POWER USER THAT CAN ASSIST US ON THE BACK END TO ALLOW THINGS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. 
          AND. 
          AGAIN, IN A PERFECT WORLD, THESE ARE ONE OF THESE KEY KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE AND STRATEGIC POSITIONS THAT CAN HELP OUT A LOT OF DIFFERENT WORK GROUPS. 
          BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE COGNIZANT OF THE FINANCIAL SITUATION THAT WE'RE IN. 
          BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          AND I ASKED TOM, CAN THIS HELP THE FRONT? AND HE ASSURED ME, NO, IT MIGHT NOT HELP THE FRONT END USERS. 
          BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE NEED IN THE BACK BECAUSE YOU HAVE MULTIPLE WORK GROUPS, PUBLIC WORKS, LEVIS FIRE, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, CODE. 
          THEY ALL USE E-TRACKING, AND IN ESSENCE WHAT IT IS IS THAT IT'S HAVING, YOU KNOW, IMBUING SOMEBODY ON OUR STAFF WITH THE EXPERTISE TO GO IN AND WORK WITH THE SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE IT DOES EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO DO RATHER THAN BEING RELIANT ON THE COMPANY THAT PROVIDES THE SOFTWARE. 
          AND SO IT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE, AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT TOO THAT IT'S OUT THERE, THAT SOMETHING CAN HELP US FULLY UTILIZE THAT TOOL. 
          AND THEN OUR FINAL FOCUS AREA FOR THE EVENING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND SO HERE YOU DO SEE ANOTHER VEHICLE THAT WOULD BE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          OUR COMMUNITY SERVICE OFFICERS SHARE ONE VEHICLE, WHICH LIMITS HOW MANY EVENTS THEY CAN GET TO. 
          SO POLICE WOULD LIKE TO ADD A SECOND SO THEY CAN SPLIT THEM OFF A LITTLE BIT, BE ABLE TO DO MORE MULTIPLE EVENTS. 
          TOWN SECRETARY'S OFFICE DOES HAVE A REQUEST IN HERE FOR LEGISLATIVE TESTIMONY. 
          WE DO KNOW THAT WOULD BE IN EVERY OTHER YEAR ONE. 
          BUT IN ORDER TO ADVOCATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, SOMETIMES IT DOES NECESSITATE. 
          SOME TRAVEL TO HAVE THOSE DISCUSSIONS WITH AUSTIN SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THINGS ARE BEING CONSIDERED APPROPRIATELY AND OUR RESIDENTS VIEWPOINTS ARE REPRESENTED DOWN IN AUSTIN. 
          AND THEN POLICE WOULD LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA COORDINATOR. 
          THIS WOULD BE A HALFTIME POSITION THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING AT THIS POINT. 
          SO AGAIN, WORKING ON SHORING UP THEIR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          AND SO, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE PIECES TOGETHER JUST TO HELP OUR RESIDENTS UNDERSTAND BETTER OUR OPERATIONS AS WELL. 
          THAT IS ALL OUR FOCUS AREAS AND SO THESE ARE JUST GENERAL FUND DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE ON THE REQUEST AGAIN WE DID NOT SPEAK TO NDPS. 
          I WILL MAKE THE MOST AND AGAIN APPLAUD TO OUR DEPARTMENTS WE REALLY WERE VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD THIS YEAR ON NDPS HAVE TO BE THE PIECES THAT WE A HUNDRED PERCENT CAN'T AVOID DOING AND EVEN THEN I THINK THERE'S SOME WE'RE GONNA END UP HAVING A FEW QUESTIONS ON ON, YOU KNOW CAN WE MAKE IT ONE MORE YEAR WITHOUT? AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN SOME WAYS SOME OF THESE ARE CONTINUATIONS OF SERVICES THAT IN A PERFECT WORLD THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN AN NDP. 
          WE WOULDN'T HAVE MOVED FORWARD WITH THEM. 
          SO OUR DEPARTMENTS REALLY DID UNDERSTAND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A REALLY FIRM SEPARATION. 
          YOU'VE GOT TO TELL US WHICH OF THESE PIECES WE CAN'T AVOID AND THEN WHAT ARE THE PIECES? WE JUST MAY HAVE TO FIND SOME CREATIVITY ON TO ADDRESS THAT NEED THE OTHER THING WE'VE ASKED OUR DEPARTMENTS TO DO THESE LAST TWO YEARS IS A FORECASTING OF THEIR STAFF. 
          SO THIS IS ON A FUND LEVEL AND YOU CAN SEE SO 26, 27 WE'VE GOT I THINK IT'S 19 I'M PROBABLY GONNA BUTCHER NUMBERS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT TOO MANY OF THEM BUT WE HAVE A GOOD ACROSS ALL FUNDS WE HAVE I THINK ABOUT 29 REQUESTS FOR PERSONNEL SO A 3.47 PERCENT INCREASE OF RECURRING YOUR STAFFING. 
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AS WE LOOK TO THE ROAD AHEAD YOU SEE SOME VERY SUBSTANTIAL INCREASES IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS. 
          SO I'M GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE. 
          IF YOU NEED ME TO COME BACK TO THIS, WE CAN. 
          BUT I WANT TO GIVE THE CAVEATS HERE BECAUSE THIS IS ALL VERY DEVELOPMENT DEPENDENT. 
          SO WE'VE ASKED STAFF, WHAT IS THE FORECAST BASED ON WHAT WE KNOW OF TIMELINE DEVELOPMENT? BUT A LOT OF THIS IS TRULY DEPENDENT ON WHAT HAPPENS OUT WEST. 
          WHEN DOES POLICE NEED TO MAKE THOSE EXTRA BEATS? THAT'S FIVE MORE PEOPLE. 
          ONCE WE PUT THAT INTO PLAY. 
          WHEN DO WE NEED TO OPEN STATION EIGHT FOR THE FIRE STATION? THAT IS QUITE A FEW PEOPLE WE HAVE TO PUT ON BOARD. 
          AND YES, WE WILL HAVE AT THAT POINT OR AT SOME POINT IN THAT NEAR FUTURE THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE THAT WILL BE NEW PROPERTY VALUES COMING ONLINE. 
          WE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL SALES TAX. 
          THE CHALLENGE FOR STAFF AND FOR OPERATIONS IS IT TAKES A YEAR TO HIRE A POLICE OFFICER, PUT THEM THROUGH THE ACADEMY, GET THEM THROUGH FIELD TRAINING, AND RELEASE THEM ON THEIR OWN. 
          IF WE GET A FIREFIGHTER, MAYBE THEY COME OUT WITH FIRE ACADEMY, MAYBE WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND THEM THERE, BUT ARE WE SENDING THEM TO PARAMEDIC SCHOOL? ALL OF THOSE PIECES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE IN ADVANCE OF HAVING THAT REVENUE COMING ON BOARD. 
          AS JAMES MENTIONED ON THE PARKS AND REC SIDE, THE DECISION THAT COUNCIL WILL MAKE ON THE ARTS CENTER, THAT WILL DRIVE WHERE THOSE POSITIONS MAY OR MAY NOT BE REQUIRED OR THEIR TIMING. 
          BUT WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER EXPANSION, TWIN COVE. 
          NOW WE DO ALSO KNOW WITH THOSE WILL COME FEE CHANGES. 
          THERE WILL BE A REVENUE COST RECOVERY TO THAT. 
          SO IN ALL OF THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, JUST BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S NEW STAFF DOESN'T MEAN THERE WON'T BE REVENUE TO SUPPORT IT. 
          BUT WE WANTED TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE THERE. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK BACK HERE. 
          I HIGHLIGHTED THE VERY SIGNIFICANT NUMBERS YOU CAN SEE, YOU KNOW, GENERAL FUND, IT'S THE PARKS REQUESTS, IT'S THE FIRE REQUESTS, THE POLICE REQUESTS, BUT AS THOSE AREAS GROW, IT WILL NEED TO GROW, DEVELOPMENT WILL NEED TO GROW IN MUCH SMALLER NUMBERS, BUT THE GROWTH IN THE SERVICE LEVELS WILL DRIVE THOSE INTERNAL SERVICE NEEDS AS WELL. 
          AS WE ADD MORE BEATS AND MORE APPARATUS, WE'LL HAVE TO EXPAND FLEET. 
          THEY'LL NEED MORE SERVICE PEOPLE. 
          SO ALL OF THAT IS INTERDEPENDENT ON EACH OTHER. 
          THE ONE THING THAT I'LL JUST ADD IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING YOU LOOK AT. 
          DON'T FREAK OUT. 
          AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW THAT IF YOU LOOK SPECIFICALLY AT THE TOP LINE, THAT'S THE GENERAL FUND. 
          THAT'S TIED TO THE TAX RATE. 
          IS THAT I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT ADDING 20 POSITIONS NEXT YEAR. 
          WE'RE NOT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO SO. 
          BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, THOUGH, IT'S JUST YOU CAN GET A SENSE OF HOW IT'S GOING TO COMPOUND ULTIMATELY WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO DO THESE THINGS. 
          SO. 
          WE'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH YOU IN THE COMING YEARS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE ONBOARD THESE PEOPLE BECAUSE MEG'S EXACTLY RIGHT. 
          WE CAN'T OPEN A STATION AND THEN GO HIRE SOME PEOPLE. 
          WE HAVE TO BRING THOSE FOLKS ON BOARD. 
          FOR INSTANCE, WITH STATION 8, I'VE ALREADY TALKED WITH CHIEF HENLEY. 
          WE HAVE STRATEGIES OF HOW WE CAN SLOWLY GET PEOPLE ON BOARD, HAVE THEM AT OTHER STATIONS AND OTHER FUNCTIONS UNTIL WE GET TO THAT POINT. 
          SAME THING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO ALL TRY TO DO IN ONE FELL SWOOP. 
          BUT WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS THAT THESE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE BASED ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE SPACE. 
          SPEED OF DEVELOPMENT AND HOW THINGS ARE MOVING, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO BE CONTINGENT ON WHAT OUR CAPABILITIES ARE AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE TO FIGURE OUT THE MOST COST EFFECTIVE AND PRUDENT WAY TO BRING THESE FOLKS ON BOARD. 
          SO AGAIN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY SHOULD TAKE THIS SLIDE AND TAKE IT TO THE BANK. 
          THERE'S JUST FINANCIAL REALITIES, PRACTICAL REALITIES OF SERVICE DELIVERY AND WHAT'S NECESSARY AT A GIVEN TIME IS GOING TO DRIVE THAT. 
          BUT THIS IS WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING ON THE 1ST, IS THAT YOU LOOK AT THAT 28, 29 TIMEFRAME, THOSE NUMBERS SPIKE. 
          AND WHEN I TOTALED IT UP, I LOOKED AT IT AND IT'S LIKE, MAN, WE'RE GOING FROM 734 TO 900 EMPLOYEES. 
          BUT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THOSE FIVE YEARS. 
          YOUR CRYSTAL BALL IS AS GOOD AS OURS AS TO HOW THAT COMES TOGETHER. 
          SO, AGAIN, I JUST WANT YOU TO SAY THAT DON'T TAKE THIS AS A BANK. 
          THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT IMPACT THIS. 
          BUT WHAT WE DO OUR LEVEL BEST TO DO IN WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS IS TO PAINT A REALISTIC PICTURE. 
          AND WHAT WE HOPE IS, AND IT'S A CONSERVATIVE LOOK, MEANING THAT WHAT'S THE WORST CASE SCENARIO THAT IT HAPPENS? BECAUSE WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS I DON'T WANT TO COME TO YOU IN THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR SAYING WE NEED TO ADD X, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE FINANCIAL CAPABILITY TO DO SO. 
          WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS IN THE FOREFRONT AND STRATEGY, MORE IMPORTANTLY, OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET THESE THINGS DONE. 
          SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, DON'T FREAK OUT WITH THIS. 
          DON'T TAKE IT TO THE BANK. 
          BUT IT'S A GOOD EXERCISE FOR US TO HAVE. 
          AND AS A MANAGER, IT GIVES ME A HOLISTIC VIEW OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO EAT THIS ELEPHANT. 
          AND NEEDLESS TO SAY, YOU LOOK AT THOSE NUMBERS UP THERE, 
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WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO EAT IT IN FIVE YEARS. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT DIFFERENT WAYS TO APPROACH IT. 
          WELL, THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR TONIGHT. 
          OF COURSE, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO DO MY BEST TO ANSWER THEM. 
          WELL, I MEAN, MEG, YOU DID A GREAT PRESENTATION. 
          I LIKE HOW YOU TOOK ALL THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE HAD FROM THE STRATEGIC SESSION LAST YEAR AND YOU DIVIDED IT ALL INTO OUR SEPARATE BUDGET THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. 
          OF COURSE, THIS IS NOT A DECISION-MAKING NIGHT ON THIS. 
          THIS IS JUST STUFF TO CHEW ON, BASICALLY, UNTIL WE HAVE THAT MAJOR STRATEGIC SESSION AT THE END OF JULY. 
          BUT THIS IS A GOOD... 
          MIDDLE GROUND FROM WHERE WE CAME FROM IN OCTOBER UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN IN JULY FOR THE BIG SESSION AND MAKE SOME DECISIONS. 
          SO I DON'T HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. 
          I JUST THINK IT'S A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION TO LOOK AT. 
          WE'LL HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION GIVEN TO US SO THAT WE CAN SEE ALL THE SPECIFICS TOO. 
          SO THAT'LL HELP. 
          DOES ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY I APPRECIATE THIS AND STICKING WITH THE INTENT OF TONIGHT'S PRESENTATION. 
          AND KEEPING IT TOP LEVEL. 
          I REALLY DO APPRECIATE THE PEEK BEHIND THE CURTAIN AND THE SAUSAGE MAKING AND REALIZE THAT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET CREATIVE. 
          AND SOME OF THEM PROBABLY WON'T MAKE IT TO OUR BUDGET. 
          SOME OF THEM, THE EXAMPLE YOU USED, AN EXISTING FLEET VEHICLE FOR THE LIBRARY. 
          WAYS THAT WE CAN USE THOSE AND REUSE OUR EXISTING RESOURCES, GET THAT COST DOWN. 
          I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT VISIBILITY. 
          AND I KNOW WE'LL HAVE TIME TO DEBATE THE SPECIFICS HERE LATER, SO I'LL LEAVE IT TO THEN. 
          BUT ALSO, I APPRECIATE THE LONG-RANGE PERSONNEL FORECAST. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S 180-SOME-ODD PEOPLE OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          I KNOW WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT. 
          THAT'S NOT THE REALITY THAT WE LIVE IN, BUT AT SOME POINT WE WILL. 
          AND SO AT LEAST KNOWING WHAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PLAN FOR AT SOME POINT I THINK IS VERY BENEFICIAL, AND JUST APPRECIATE THAT. 
          JUST A GENERAL COMMENT. 
          WITH MAINTENANCE AND EVEN STREET REPAIRS, LET'S JUST MAKE SURE WE HAVE A GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR EVERYTHING BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING THIS YEAR ON THAT IF THERE'S THINGS WE CAN PUSH OUT LET'S DO IT I HAVE QUESTIONS AND I'M SORRY BEFORE WE GO TO YOU MAYOR PRO TIM JUST FOR COUNCIL MEMBER DREW I IF YOU COULD ELABORATE ON THAT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M I'M NOT MISSING MISSING YOUR YOUR YEAH I MEAN JUST LIKE UH FOR THE EXAMPLE THE DOLL THE DOG GLASS IF WE CAN DELAY THAT A YEAR LET'S DELAY THE YEAR I MEAN IF WE'RE TRYING TO BRIDGE A GAP WHERE THE ECONOMY STARTS TO PICK BACK UP AND WE GET BETTER SALES TAX REVENUE, THESE ARE THINGS WE CAN DELAY. 
          SURE. 
          SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF THERE'S OPTIONS TO DELAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 13? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND ONE THING ON THAT. 
          THIS ONE? THE PROJECTIONS ON PERSONNEL. 
          SO THIS IS A 25% INCREASE IN PERSONNEL. 
          OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SO DOES THIS CONTEMPLATE THE TOWN GROWING IN POPULATION IN THE SAME AMOUNT IN THE SAME PERIOD OF TIME? LIKE WE'RE ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO ADD 25% POPULATION OUT WEST OVER THIS PERIOD OF TIME. 
          IS THAT HOW WE GOT TO THIS? SO YES AND NO. 
          I DO THINK SOME OF THE PERSONNEL IS GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT ADVANCED OF THE POPULATION JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIME TO GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND IN PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          AND THEN A LOT OF THE DRIVER IS THE CAC EXPANSION. 
          SO THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT THERE. 
          SO THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE TIED TO POPULATION GROWTH. 
          THAT'S GOING TO BE TIED TO THAT BUILDING CHANGE AND THAT BOND. 
          UM, SO, BUT I THINK IF YOU TOOK THE, THE C8, THE PARKS PIECE OUT OF IT, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT IN ADVANCE, BUT YES, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT IN LINE WITH POPULATION GROWTH. 
          WEST SIDE GROWTH IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S HAPPENING AND IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE STAFFING UP, BUT IT'S GOING TO ALSO KIND OF FUND ITSELF. 
          SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LESS CONCERNING TO ME THAN JUST US GETTING LESS EFFICIENT AND HAVING MORE. 
          SURE. 
          YEAH. 
          NO, IT IS ABSOLUTELY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF. 
          NO, WE DO ANTICIPATE, YOU KNOW, YES, THERE WILL BE REVENUE SIDES THAT WILL COME WITH IT. 
          OUR CONCERN IS WE'RE GOING TO NEED A STAFF AHEAD OF SOME OF THAT COMING ONLINE. 
          AND CERTAINLY WE WILL ALWAYS EVALUATE WHAT IS THE APPROPRIATE REVENUE STREAM. 
          YOU'LL NOTICE WE HAVE NO FORECASTED CHANGE IN CRIME DISTRICT OR FIRE DISTRICT. 
          BUT AS THAT SALES TAX REVENUE COMES UP, THAT MAY COME INSTEAD OF GOING FROM THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WE MAY MOVE THAT DOWN THERE. 
          BUT FOR NOW, IT'S EASIER TO KEEP IT STATUS QUO IN THE GENERAL FUND. 
          BUT CERTAINLY AT THE TIME DECISION POINTS WERE MADE, ALL SOURCES WOULD BE EVALUATED FOR THE MOST APPROPRIATE FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THE NEED. 
          YEAH, AND SO THE CAC REQUIRES A BUNCH OF NEW EMPLOYEES, AND I ASSUME WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK ON OUR USER FEES TO HELP PAY THEIR OWN WAY TO A CERTAIN SIZE. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY, SO LET'S GO BACK TO SLIDE THREE REAL QUICK, IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          OKAY. 
          SO SLIDE THREE IS, WE HAVE THIS PIE, AND I ASSUME THIS IS THE GENERAL FUND. 
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THIS IS JUST GENERAL FUND. 
          SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY... 
          SPECIAL FUNDS, TERS, VRF, HEALTH CARE FUND. 
          HOW MUCH IS THIS PIE? $97 MILLION. 
          OKAY, $97 MILLION IN THIS PIE. 
          SO THE SPECIAL FUNDS, THAT'S ANOTHER LIKE $22, $23 MILLION, JUST LOOKING AT THE BUDGET. 
          ALL TOGETHER. 
          YEAH. 
          THAT SOUNDS ABOUT RIGHT. 
          SO OBVIOUSLY, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, ARE WE CONSIDERING, IF WE CAN... 
          PUSH OFF A CAR PURCHASE ANOTHER YEAR. 
          DOES THAT HELP BRIDGE THE GAP A LITTLE BIT? OR ARE WE ONLY LOOKING AT THE GENERAL FUND AND IGNORING ALL OF OUR SPECIAL FUNDS ENTIRELY? WE'RE CERTAINLY NOT IGNORING OUR SPECIAL FUNDS. 
          GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE DECISION PACKAGES THAT ARE IN THE GENERAL FUND ARE MOST APPROPRIATELY FUNDED THERE, UNLESS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A CONCERN ON THE SALES TAX SIDE FOR THE CRIME DISTRICT AND THE FIRE DISTRICT. 
          THOSE ARE PRETTY WELL TAPPED. 
          SO THOSE WHERE THOSE PREVIOUSLY HAVE MAY HAVE HAD A LITTLE BIT OF FLEXIBILITY TO COVER SOME OF THOSE ONE TIME NEEDS IN THE PUBLIC SAFETY. 
          RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT THE RIGHT SOURCE. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE. 
          WE'LL CONTINUE EVALUATING ON THE STREET SIDE, THE PARK SIDE. 
          THOSE ARE REALLY ONLY OUR OTHER ONES TO PLAY WITH ON APPROPRIATE EXPENSES MOVING OVER THERE. 
          BUT CERTAINLY THE ENTIRE CONVERSATION AND WHAT WILL BE BROUGHT FORTH TO YOU IN AUGUST WILL CONTEMPLATE ALL FUNDS. 
          YEAH, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITY OUTSIDE OF PERSONNEL IN SOME OF THOSE OTHER FUNDS. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, VEHICLE REPLACEMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THE EASY ONE. 
          HEALTH, SOMEHOW CAPPING OUR HEALTH CARE COSTS THAT MIGHT REQUIRE LEGISLATIVE ACTION. 
          BUT IF THESE LEGISLATORS WHO WANT US TO CUT PROPERTY TAXES SO BAD UNDERSTAND THAT MORE THAN 20% OF OUR COST IS HEALTH CARE, IT'S HEALTH INSURANCE SLASH FLEX, AND IT WAS $18 MILLION. 
          WELL, THAT'S OUR SELF-INSURANCE FUND. 
          SO THAT IS WHERE IT'S RECEIVING ITS MONEY IS FROM THE PREMIUMS PAID BY EMPLOYEES AND THE PREMIUMS THAT THE TOWN CONTRIBUTES TOWARDS THE EMPLOYEES. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO... 
          THAT'S REALLY, IT'S KIND OF A DOUBLE COUNT BECAUSE THAT MONEY THAT'S COMING FROM THE TOWN SIDE IS ALSO IN OUR OPERATING FUND. 
          SO THAT'S PART OF THAT 75% OF PERSONNEL. 
          OKAY, SO THAT COUNTS AS PERSONNEL. 
          IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT'S THE KIND OF CONVERSATION WE SHOULD BE HAVING IS, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE IT GOT REAL BAD FOR A LOT OF YEARS, AND NOW IT'S KIND OF PLATEAUED, BUT IT'S PLATEAUED AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL. 
          MAYBE THERE'S SOME LEGISLATIVE ACTION THAT CAN HELP US GET THAT UNDER CONTROL, AND THAT WOULD HELP MANAGE THE PIE. 
          CONTINUING TO GROW OUT OF CONTROL AND HAVING US TO MAKE OTHER CUTS. 
          SO SOME OF THE STABLE, AND JOHN WILL NEED TO SPEAK MORE SPECIFICALLY TO THIS, AND SO IF I MISSPEAK, PLEASE JUST FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE ON IT. 
          BUT TWO YEARS AGO, A LOT OF THE CHANGES THAT HR AND JOHN WORKED WITH OUR BROKER TO MAKE STABILIZED QUITE A BIT OF OUR EXPENSE POINT, AND SO WE'RE NOT SEEING THE DRASTIC YEAR-OVER-YEAR INCREASES. 
          WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET IT BACK TO A MORE STABLE POINT. 
          WITH SOME OF THE POLICY AND PROGRAM CHANGES THAT YOU, AS COUNSEL, HAVE TALKED ABOUT, THAT'S KEPT US A LOT MORE EVEN KEEL. 
          I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE EVEN SEEING THE INCREASES THAT OUR NEIGHBORS THAT WOULD BE WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE ARE SEEING. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, GIVEN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE, I THINK THAT'S LESS OF A CONCERN AT THIS POINT IN OUR OVERALL GROWTH OF EXPENSE. 
          SO SPEAKING OF OUR OWN. 
          AND I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK TO THAT. 
          MEG IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. 
          AND... 
          AGAIN, WE APPRECIATE YOU AS A COUNCIL FOR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS AND WE WERE IN A VERY, VERY UNIQUE AND VERY SPECIFIC SITUATION WITH US BECAUSE WE JUST HAVE FOUR PEOPLE ON OUR PLAN THAT JUST REQUIRED VERY EXPENSIVE DRUGS. 
          IT'S A VERY UNIQUE THING BECAUSE WE BY FAR HAD THE BEST HEALTH INSURANCE OF ANYBODY ANYWHERE. 
          AND WE'VE WORKED SYSTEMATICALLY OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS TO GET THAT UNDER CONTROL. 
          AND SOME OF THESE OTHER... 
          IF YOU RECALL, WHEN LINDA DID HER PRESENTATIONS, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT OUR STOP LOSS AND SOME OF THOSE OTHER COMPONENTS, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THOSE THIRD PARTIES THAT WE BROUGHT IN, AND THOSE HAVE HELPED. 
          AND THE BAROMETER FOR THIS IS WHEN WE WERE GOING TO HEART OF THAT, I WAS AT REGULAR MEETINGS WITH OUR THIRD PARTY ADMINISTRATOR, COMING UP WITH STRATEGIES. 
          NOW LINDA AND JOHN DON'T EVEN INVITE ME TO THE MEETINGS, AND THAT'S A GOOD SIGN BECAUSE IT'S NOT A CONCERN. 
          SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE VERY STABILIZED. 
          BUT I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FACTORS THAT CAN BE INFORMING OUR EXPENSES. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN COMMUNICATE EFFECTIVELY TO OTHERS WHO ARE TRYING TO GET US TO LOWER OUR PROPERTY TAX. 
          BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC LIKES THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE. 
          THEY DON'T NECESSARILY LIKE THE BILL THAT THEY GET EVERY MONTH. 
          AND THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO TURN THE SCREWS ON US. 
          AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO HELP THEM UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES WE MIGHT NEED SOME HELP. 
          AND IT'S CLOSING SOME OF THESE 
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GAPS SO THAT WE CAN LOWER TAXES. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, HEALTH CARE SEEMS LIKE KIND OF A BIG ONE TO ME. 
          SO IT'S A GOOD STORY TO TELL. 
          NOW, ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORS. 
          I GOT A QUESTION FROM THE PUBLIC, AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE OTHER CITIES DOING, OUR BENCHMARKS IN REGARDS TO THE VADER? ARE THEY DOING IT? WHO'S DOING IT? WHO'S NOT? THE ONES THAT AREN'T DOING IT, WHAT KIND OF I DON'T THINK YOU NEED TO ANSWER THIS TODAY. 
          SURE. 
          WHAT ARE THE ONES THAT AREN'T DOING A VADER, WHAT KIND OF CUTS ARE THEY MAKING? AND HOW ARE THEY MANAGING THEIR BUDGETS EFFECTIVELY? I THINK WE'D LIKE TO KNOW. 
          I'D LIKE TO KNOW THAT. 
          AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT DOES THIS PIE LOOK LIKE OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS? WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE DO A VADER? AND WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE IF WE... 
          DON'T HAVE TERS 1 OR WE DON'T HAVE TERS. 
          WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THESE PROJECTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE THE MOST INFORMED DECISION? AND IT IS IN OUR PLAYBOOK TO DO A LONG RANGE OF PLAN ON THE AND IT'S BEEN ON THE STRATEGIC PLAN. 
          SO WE ARE AWARE. 
          I WANT TO GET THAT FOR YOU. 
          IT'S MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST RUNNING A FEW EXCEL SPREADSHEETS AND FORMULAS. 
          SO BUT WE WILL CERTAINLY KEEP THAT TOP OF MIND THAT WE NEED TO WORK ON THAT. 
          AND NONE OF US DISAGREE. 
          IT'S ALL SOMETHING WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS WELL. 
          AND WHAT I'LL SAY TO THE REQUEST, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S THE SLOW BURN, AND IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN PUT TOGETHER BECAUSE, AGAIN, WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING SOMETHING IN NOVEMBER THIS YEAR. 
          WE'RE SEEING IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO NOVEMBER OF NEXT YEAR. 
          AND LIKE I THINK I MENTIONED THIS BEFORE, I TALK TO MY COUNTERPARTS ABOUT THAT CONCEPT AND SEE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO GO, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE INDICATED SOMETHING THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          SOMETHING MIGHT BE GOING THIS YEAR. 
          SOME MIGHT BE GOING TO NEXT. 
          I THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO BE TOO DIFFICULT TO TALK TO SOME OF OUR COMP CITIES. 
          AND I HAVE GOOD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THOSE MANAGERS AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT. 
          BUT AGAIN, IT'S THAT EVERY EVERYBODY'S A FRUIT. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE APPLE, YOU KNOW, GRAPEVINES, ORANGE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SENSE THAT THEY ARE JUST EXTREMELY UNIQUE OF WHAT THEY BRING IN FROM THE SALES TAX. 
          OH, I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE CALLED THEM A GRAPE. 
          IT WAS A LAYUP AND I JUST BLEW IT. 
          SO I APOLOGIZE. 
          BUT. 
          THEY'RE VERY UNIQUE BECAUSE THEY HAVE A STRONG SALES TAX. 
          THEY HAVE HOT TAX. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE OTHER FORCES. 
          YOU REMEMBER WHEN JOHN DID HIS PRESENTATION A FEW MONTHS BACK THAT GRAPEVINE WAS THAT OUTLIER. 
          THEY MIGHT NOT BE GOOD IN OUR CONCEPT BECAUSE THEY'RE EXTREMELY UNIQUE. 
          BUT THERE ARE CITIES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO US, AND WE CAN GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, MY BEST ANSWER TO THIS IS THAT FROM MY STANDPOINT, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, THE COUNCIL AND THE COMMUNITY IS AWESOME. 
          ALWAYS HELD THIS ORGANIZATION TO VERY HIGH STANDARDS. 
          WE'RE NOT A FAT ORGANIZATION. 
          WE DON'T HAVE A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SITTING AROUND LOOKING FOR STUFF TO DO. 
          AND I THINK UNIVERSALLY, SOME OTHER CITIES THAT MAYBE HAD A LITTLE LOVE HANDLES, SO TO SPEAK, THAT THEY HAD OPPORTUNITIES TO SAY, OKAY, WE CAN GET MORE EFFICIENT. 
          I THINK THE CHALLENGE FOR US IS THAT WE ALWAYS OPERATED LEAN. 
          AND THEN NOW WE'RE KIND OF IN THIS POINT WHERE WE'RE KIND OF AT THIS POINT TO NO RETURN. 
          THAT'S JUST... 
          MY ASSESSMENT OF IT, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY DIG DEEPER AND KIND OF GIVE THAT THAT LONG RANGE LOOK OF HOW THIS LOOKS. 
          AND SO, AGAIN, IT'S ONE OF THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BE AS EARLY IN THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT'S A BIG IT'S A BIG CONVERSATION. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE OPINIONS. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS. 
          A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS. 
          AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR. 
          THE BUDGET WE'RE GOING TO PASS IS GOING TO BE WITHIN THE THREE AND A HALF PERCENT. 
          AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          BUT WE UNDERSTAND AS WE GO INTO. 
          2028 FISCAL YEAR, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONVERSATION. 
          THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC DISCOURSE COMPONENT ASSOCIATED WITH IT. 
          YOU ALMOST TREAT IT LIKE A BOND PROGRAM. 
          WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROVIDE FACTUAL INFORMATION TO VOTERS THAT HELP THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          THE CHALLENGE AT THIS POINT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE PROPOSITION. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S ON THAT FUNDING LINE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT OUR COMP SET AND SEE HOW THEY WORK. 
          BUT I'M JUST GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, YOU KNOW, A PLACE LIKE GRAPEVINE IS GOING TO BE AN OUTLIER. THERE MIGHT BE SOME OTHER FOLKS THAT... 
          AND THIS IS PART OF THE EDUCATION WE HAVE TO DO. IF WE HAVE SOMEBODY ON OUR COMP SET THAT IS GOING THROUGH EXPLOSIVE GROWTH RIGHT NOW, SB2, IT'S A SEESAW. YOUR TAX RATE GOES DOWN WHEN YOU'RE GROWING, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GROWING, YOU HAVE TO RAISE THE TAX RATE. IT'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN THAT. AND SO WE MIGHT HAVE SOMEBODY ON OUR COMP SET THAT IS GROWING AT A HIGH RATE AND THAT NEW VALUE IS COMING IN, NEW REVENUE IS COMING IN. 
          WE'RE NOT AT THAT POINT. WE'RE KIND OF ON THE PRECIPICE ON THAT AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE NEW VALUE HITTING IN 2028. WE JUST DON'T KNOW TO WHAT EXTENT. SO THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS, BUT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THAT TOGETHER BECAUSE MY DEAL IS THAT AT A CERTAIN POINT, WE USE THE COUNCIL IN THIS COMMUNITY. YOU JUST WANT TO PUT EVERYTHING ON THE TABLE, BACK UP, AND JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S RIGHT, WHAT'S PRUDENT, AND WHAT WE'RE COMFORTABLE DOING. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS I JUST ACKNOWLEDGED THE LAST TIME WE MET WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS WHOLE BETA CONCEPT IS THAT. 
          Y'ALL ARE JUST APPROVING TO SEND IT TO THE VOTERS. 
          YOU'RE NOT, THE DECISION YOU'RE MAKING IS TAKING IT TO THE VOTERS. IT'S GOING TO BE 
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ULTIMATELY THE RESIDENTS THAT MAKE THE DECISION. AND THEN ALSO, OBVIOUSLY, ON THE FIRST, WE HAD THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WHAT IF ABOUT TOURIST NUMBER ONE. SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT. 
          AND ONE OF THE THINGS IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH JOHN WITH THAT IS JUST LOOKING AT IT VERY HOLISTICALLY ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE IN THAT POINT? ARE WE STILL IN THE POSITION TO DO SOME OF THE THINGS FROM AN ECONOMIC. 
          DEVELOPMENT STANDPOINT WITH THE RIVERWALK THAT WE COULD DO IF WE WENT DOWN THAT SCENARIO WHAT WOULD WE GIVE UP IN THE PROCESS AND THE THE SOFT MATH IS THAT A THIRD OF THE THIRD OF THAT FUNDING COMES FROM THE COUNTY AND WE THAT WOULD THAT WOULD COME OFF THE TABLE I WILL I'D LIKE TO ASSUME IF WE DID NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONTEMPLATIVE PROJECT, THE COUNTY WOULD TAKE THEIR MONEY AND GO ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, WHICH IS THEIR DECISION, CERTAINLY. 
          BUT WE CAN SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND HAVE A MORE KIND OF FULL-THROATED CONVERSATION ABOUT THE WHAT-IFS AND THE LONG-TERM IMPLICATIONS OF DOING THOSE THINGS. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU SO MUCH, MEG. OKAY, FLOWER MOUND, THE TIME IS NOW 09:01, AND MEETING IS ADJOURNED. 
          GOOD NIGHT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.