[A. CALL TO ORDER ]
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AND I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
TONIGHT WE WILL START WITH THE INVOCATION BY CHAPLAIN RICHARD PLUNK.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD RISE FOR THAT AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.
CAN WE PRAY? GRACIOUS HEAVENLY FATHER, WE GATHER TONIGHT TO DO BUSINESS FOR OUR TOWN.
WE ASK YOU TO BE WITH US IN A VERY SPECIAL WAY.
SCRIPTURE TELLS US TO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN AUTHORITY OVER US.
SO I PRAY FOR WISDOM TONIGHT, FOR THOSE THAT LEAD US, THOSE THAT SERVE US, THOSE THAT ARE PART OF THE TOWN STAFF, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.
THANK YOU, LORD, FOR BRINGING US THROUGH THE LAST SNOWMAGEDDON AND GETTING US ON TO WARM WEATHER THIS WEEK.
AND MAY GREAT THINGS HAPPEN TONIGHT.
WE ASK ALL THESE THINGS IN YOUR HOLY NAME, AMEN.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE, UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
AS ALWAYS, WITH THE, THIS IS THE HIGHLIGHT
[D. PUBLIC COMMENT ]
OF THE NIGHT.WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WE'LL START OUT WITH.
YEAH, I WAS READING THE TOPIC.
SO WE HAVE, I HAVE TWO COMMENT CARDS, ONE NOT WISHING TO SPEAK.
THE SUBJECT IS THAT THEY SUPPORT NEEDING PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE ONE SPEAKER, NICOLE WOODARD.
SO AT THIS TIME, IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AT 30, WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS REMAINING, THE TIMER WILL ALARM, ALERT YOU, BUT YOU STILL HAVE 30 SECONDS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I'M NICOLE SMITH WOODARD, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND, SPEAKING TODAY ON BEHALF OF THE FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, CURRENTLY SERVING AS CHAIRMAN OF THEIR BOARD.
THE CHAMBER, AS YOU KNOW, SERVES AS A STRATEGIC GATEWAY TO FLOWER MOUND BUSINESS COMMUNITY, REPRESENTING ALMOST 600 LOCAL EMPLOYERS INVESTED IN THE LONG-TERM STABILITY, CHARACTER, AND QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR TOWN.
WE'RE PROUD TO BE A FIVE-STAR ACCREDITED CHAMBER BY THE U.S. CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, A DISTINCTION EARNED BY ONLY 3% OF CHAMBERS NATIONWIDE, AND WE ARE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THE TOWN'S CONTINUED SUPPORT.
LOCAL BUSINESSES SUPPORT THOUSANDS OF JOBS AND CONTRIBUTE SIGNIFICANTLY TO FLOWER MOUND'S TAX BASE AND DAILY VIBRANCY, DIRECTLY ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
SO WE'D LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO TWO UPCOMING EVENTS.
ON FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 13TH, THE CHAMBER WILL HOST ITS ANNUAL AWARD CELEBRATION, WHICH IS PRESENTED BY COSERVE AND HOSTED BY THE TOWN.
WE'LL HONOR OUTSTANDING BUSINESSES, CITIZENS, AND COMMUNITY CONTRIBUTORS.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR JOINT CHAMBER, THE STATE OF THE CITY'S LUNCHEON, AND NEW THIS YEAR, THE BUSINESS EXPO, WHICH IS SPONSORED BY REPUBLIC SERVICES, ON TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24TH, FEATURING MAYOR MOORE, THANK YOU, AS WELL AS MAYORS OF LOUISVILLE AND HIGHLAND VILLAGE.
TICKETS FOR EACH OF THESE EVENTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH THE CHAMBER WEBSITE, WHICH IS FLOWERMOUNDCHAMBER.COM.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE CHAMBER MEMBER FLEURY'S MARKET AND PROVISIONS AND ITS OWNER, CLAYTON FLEURY, WHO'S A CHAMBER BOARD MEMBER AS WELL.
NOT ONLY DID CLAYTON USE HIS SOCIAL PLATFORMS DURING THE WINTER STORM TO HIGHLIGHT NUMEROUS LOCAL RESTAURANTS JUST LIKE HIS, WHICH DEMONSTRATES HIS EXCELLENT EXAMPLE OF COMMUNITY-MINDED LEADERSHIP, HE RECENTLY PARTNERED WITH THE CHAMBER TO CONVENE AND FACILITATE A COLLABORATIVE SESSION FOR LOCAL FOOD AND BEVERAGE BUSINESSES.
THEY'LL BE MEETING MONTHLY, AND STAY TUNED FOR MORE INDUSTRY-SPECIFIC THINK TANK COLLABORATIVE SESSIONS COMING SOON.
THE CHAMBER EXISTS TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES WITHIN FLOWER MOUND'S VISION AND TO SERVE AS A CONSTRUCTIVE PARTNER TO THE TOWN.
WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP COUNCIL INFORMED, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUOUS SERVICE AND SUPPORT.
WHY DON'T I CALL YOU CHRISTINE? OKAY, WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER, BRONZE PETERSON.
WELL, PEOPLE ARE SEEING ME LAUGH.
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LAST TIME HE TRIED TO GET IN HERE, AND HE MISSED HIS TIME, AND WE'RE LIKE, WE SAW HIM OUT IN THE LOBBY.WE'RE LIKE, YOU BETTER GET IN HERE.
BRONZE PETERSON, 5104 SADDLE DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND.
THANKS AGAIN FOR LETTING ME SPEAK TONIGHT.
I HAVE A LITTLE CONCERN, WHICH SEVERAL OF YOU ARE AWARE OF, AND SEVERAL OF THE STAFF ARE AWARE OF, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD BRING IT UP AGAIN TONIGHT IN CASE IT COULD BE ADDED TO A FUTURE MEETING.
MY WIFE AND I OWN SOME LAND, A RANCH ON SCENIC DRIVE, AND I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ENTRANCE POINT ON OUR NORTHWEST CORNER.
I KNOW I KIND OF SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT OUR NORTHWEST CORNER IS WHERE THE NEW SMITH TRACT THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY TOLL BROTHERS WILL ENTER SCENIC DRIVE.
IT ALSO HAS AN ENTRANCE OR TWO OVER ON SHILOH AS WELL, SO THIS I DON'T THINK IS SUPPOSED TO BE KIND OF, QUOTE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE AN ENTRANCE, AND I KNOW THE EAST-WEST SECTION OF SCENIC THAT IS NORTH OF OUR LAND THAT CONNECTS THE NEW WALTZINGHAM, WHICH IS THE ROAD THAT'S GOING IN IN TOWN LAKE 5-6, IT CONNECTS THAT ROAD WITH THE SMITH TRACT, AND I KNOW IT'S PROPOSED, SO IT'S NOT DONE YET, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THAT INTERSECTION WILL BE DONE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KIND OF TALK TO SOME FOLKS ABOUT THAT, AND I DO OWE MR. DALTON AN EMAIL KIND OF WITH SOME OF MY CONCERNS, BUT I THOUGHT I'D GET IT TONIGHT BECAUSE, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, YOU GUYS THEN HAVE TO DECIDE IF YOU WANT IT TO BE NEW BUSINESS AND THEN GET IT ON THE DOCKET FOR A FUTURE TOWN COUNCIL DISCUSSION, AND IT'S JUST KIND OF A CONCERN, AND I COULD PROBABLY GO INTO MORE DETAIL IN AN EMAIL, BUT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT INTERSECTION WILL LOOK IF WE DON'T ACQUIRE A LITTLE MORE RIGHT-OF-WAY OR A LITTLE MORE LAND IN ORDER TO GET THAT INTERSECTION CORRECT, AND WHY IT IMPACTS ME IS IF THAT INTERSECTION MOVES SOUTH, THEN IT IMPACTS US A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO AGAIN, DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THE POINT, BUT IF THERE'S A WAY TO HAVE IT ON AN UPCOMING MEETING, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
I HAVE NO MORE COMMENT CARDS, SO DOES ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME BEFORE I CLOSE IT? OKAY.
[E. ANNOUNCEMENTS ]
AT THIS TIME.WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE? I HAVE ONE.
I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE BIT IN THE TOWN MANAGER'S UPDATE, BUT I WANTED TO EXTEND A PERSONAL THANKS TO EVERYONE IN PUBLIC WORKS AND EVERYONE ON TOWN STAFF WHO WORKED SO HARD TO KEEP US SAFE AND KEEP OUR MAIN ROADS CLEAR.
YOU ALL WERE AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND ALSO COMMUNICATIONS, WHO KEPT THOSE FACEBOOK POSTS COMING.
SO THANK YOU, EVERYONE, AND HOPEFULLY EVERYONE WAS SAFE.
ANYTHING ELSE? THE LIONS CLUB, THIS FRIDAY NIGHT, IS HAVING A FUN SOCK HOP FROM 6 TO 9 AT THE EXCITE GYM IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE, AND IT'S OUR FUNDRAISER FOR OUR VISION INITIATIVES.
IT WILL BE 50S MUSIC, GOURMET DINER FOOD LIKE MILKSHAKES, HAMBURGERS, HOT DOGS, PIES, AND AGAIN, IT'S TO RAISE MONEY FOR OUR VISION INITIATIVES, AND WE'LL BE HAVING A SILENT AUCTION ALSO.
[ F. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]
MANAGER'S REPORT.I KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO SAY ABOUT THE STORM, AND AGAIN, I WANT TO KIND OF ECHO WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN SAID.
OUR EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB OF COMMUNICATING WITH STAFF AND KEEPING UPDATED CONSTANTLY, AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNICATIONS, THEY DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB, AND JAMES, YOU WERE GREAT WITH COMMUNICATING TO ALL OF US ON EVERYTHING AS WELL.
MAYOR, I APPRECIATE IT, AND WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS AND ALSO JUST A BRIEF UPDATE TOWARDS THE END.
I'M GOING TO ASK BOBBY SANFORD, OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST, TO MAKE HIS WAY UP FRONT, AND AS HE'S SETTING UP THE PRESENTATION, I APPRECIATE THE KIND WORDS.
IT SEEMS LIKE WE DO ONE OR TWO OF THESE EVERY YEAR.
IT'S JUST A REGULAR PRACTICE FOR US, AND WE ALWAYS LIKE TO DO THESE AFTER ACTION REPORTS BACK AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING TO TALK ABOUT ALL THE WORK THAT'S INVOLVED.
I THINK PEOPLE, FOR THE MOST PART, APPRECIATE THE SHEER AMOUNT OF WORK AND PREPARATION THAT GOES INTO A WINTER STORM RESPONSE, BUT WE LIKE TO JUST GO THROUGH CASE BY CASE, AND BOBBY'S GOING TO DO THAT THIS EVENING.
THERE'S A FEW THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO DO A LITTLE COLOR COMMENTARY ON JUST TO EXPOUND UPON THAT, BUT BOBBY IS OUR RELATIVELY
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NEW.BOBBY, YOU BEEN HERE A YEAR YET? OKAY, SO HE HASN'T BEEN HERE A YEAR, BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND SAY THAT BOBBY IS AWESOME.
HE'S A METEOROLOGIST AS A TRADE, SO I FELT LIKE I WAS IN A CLASSROOM DURING OUR MEETINGS.
HE WAS EXPLAINING THE INTRICACIES OF WEATHER PATTERNS AND EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.
JUST A TREMENDOUS ASSET FOR THE TOWN.
IT PUTS US IN A BETTER POSITION TO BE RESPONSIVE, SO WITH THAT, BOBBY, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO WALK US THROUGH IT.
MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
I'LL TRY NOT TO GO TOO IN-DEPTH ON THE WEATHER.
SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MAYBE ISN'T KNOWN AS WELL IS THAT THESE THINGS DON'T SURPRISE US.
WE'RE PRETTY GOOD AT PREDICTING WEATHER AT LEAST WITHIN A WEEK, SO ON SUNDAY WAS WHEN WE REALLY STARTED TO SEE THE COLD TEMPERATURES ON THE FORECAST, AND THIS CAME IN FRIDAY NIGHT INTO SATURDAY MORNING.
SO, MONDAY WE STARTED TO PUSH OUT MESSAGING, AND THEN THAT'S KIND OF THE TIME FRAME WHERE YOU START TO GET THE PRECIPITATION DOWN.
THE COLD HAD BEEN KNOWN ABOUT, AND OBVIOUSLY THE COLD CAN BE DANGEROUS ALL BY ITSELF, BUT YOU THROW IN A BUNCH OF PRECIP ON TOP OF THAT, THAT MAKES ROADS HARD TO TRAVEL.
SO, PUBLIC WORKS STARTED TO TREAT ROADS ON THURSDAY.
WE KNEW IT WAS GOING TO RAIN FRIDAY, BUT THERE WAS SOME HOPE THAT MAYBE IT WOULDN'T COMPLETELY WASH AWAY ALL THE BRINE.
I'M NOT A BRINE EXPERT, SO I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH WAS AFFECTED BY THAT AND ALL THAT, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT RAINED ALMOST THE WHOLE DAY FRIDAY AND THEN WENT DOWN BELOW FREEZING AS WE GOT INTO THE NIGHT.
WE GOT A LITTLE, I DON'T WANT TO SAY LUCKY, BUT FORTUNATE PERHAPS WITH PRECIPITATION TYPE BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED GOING IN THAT WE WOULD GET A LOT OF FREEZING RAIN, AND FREEZING RAIN CAUSES A LOT OF PROBLEMS BECAUSE IT ACCUMULATES ON TREES AND POWER LINES, AND THAT CAUSES UTILITY DISRUPTIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING.
I SAY WE GOT FORTUNATE BECAUSE MOST OF THE PRECIP WE GOT WAS SLEET.
SO, SLEET WILL ACCUMULATE ON THE GROUND.
IT CAUSES TRAVEL PROBLEMS, AS I'M SURE EVERYONE GOT TO EXPERIENCE.
THE ROADS GET VERY SLICK, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH POWER AND GAS INFRASTRUCTURE IMPACTS LIKE WE SAW PREVIOUSLY.
SO, THE ROADS DO GET BAD PRETTY QUICK WITH SLEET AND SIDEWALKS, PARKING LOTS, ALL THAT STUFF, AND THEN IT TAKES A FEW DAYS.
WE STAYED BELOW FREEZING IN THE TEENS AND 20S FOR SEVERAL DAYS, SO THERE'S LITTLE THAT YOU CAN REALLY DO WHEN YOU GET TWO OR SO INCHES OF SLEET, WHICH IS A LOT OF SLEET.
IT'S HARD TO JUST REMOVE THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE TRIED TO SHOVEL THEIR DRIVEWAY, BUT IT DIDN'T.
I DOUBT IT WENT VERY WELL FOR THOSE FIRST FEW DAYS.
PUBLIC WORKS STARTED DOING ACTUAL TREATMENT, SO THEY DO THE PRETREATMENT BEFORE AND THEN START TREATING AS IT COMES IN.
THEY STARTED DOING THEIR 24-HOUR OPERATIONS ON FRIDAY, AND THAT MEANS TWO 12-HOUR SHIFTS FOR THEIR WORKERS, AND THEN MONDAY THEY WENT TO 16-HOUR OPERATIONS, WHICH IS TWO EIGHTS, AND THEN BACK TO NORMAL ON THURSDAY.
I DO KNOW THEY WERE STILL GETTING HOT SPOTS, ESPECIALLY FOR THE SCHOOLS ON THURSDAY, SO THERE WERE STILL SOME AREAS THAT NEEDED THAT ATTENTION.
THE TOWN DOES HAVE SOME SNOW REMOVAL EQUIPMENT.
I THINK THIS WAS A QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED.
THE SNOW PLOWS THAT YOU SEE, THEY'RE DUMP TRUCKS THAT THEY'LL ATTACH A PLOW TO THE FRONT OF AND PUT A SPREADER IN THE BACK TO SPREAD THE SAND AND ICE MELT MIXTURE OUT OF, BUT OBVIOUSLY TWO IS NOT VERY MANY, SO THEY WERE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE.
FLEET SERVICES ALSO HAD PEOPLE HERE 24-7 TO WORK ON ANYTHING THAT BROKE.
ANYTIME YOU USE EQUIPMENT, IT BREAKS, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE SLAMMING INTO ICE DRIVING DOWN A ROAD.
THAT'S PRETTY ROUGH ON EQUIPMENT, BUT AGAIN, THE TEMPERATURES BEING LOW, THAT'S REALLY WE SAW THAT HAPPEN A LITTLE BIT IN 21 AS WELL.
THAT WASN'T THE PRIMARY IMPACT WITH THE POWER, BUT WHEN THE TEMPERATURE STAYS LOW FOR SO LONG, IT REALLY IS DIFFICULT TO GET STUFF TO MELT, AND IT WAS CLOUDY, WHICH REDUCES THE SUN, AND I'M GOING MORE IN DETAIL THAN I PROBABLY SHOULD.
I'M GOING TO BE HERE ALL NIGHT, BUT WE DO MENTION THIS.
THE TOWN DOES NOT PLOW RESIDENTIAL STREETS.
AGAIN, THEY WERE STILL WORKING ON THE MAIN STUFF UNTIL THURSDAY, AND BY THAT POINT, A LOT OF STUFF STARTED TO MELT.
THERE'S STILL SOME OUT THERE RIGHT NOW.
I THINK MOST ROADS ARE CLEAR, BUT I SAW SOME SIDEWALKS THAT HAD FENCES ON THE NORTH SIDE THAT DON'T GET SUN ALL DAY THAT WERE STILL JUST COMPLETELY COVERED, SO IT TAKES DAYS FOR THAT MUCH ICE TO REALLY MELT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET ANOTHER COLD FRONT AND A LITTLE COLD AGAIN, BUT NOT THIS COLD AND NO PRECIP THIS TIME, SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET RID OF IT.
THE EMERGENCY WAS ACTIVATED FROM FRIDAY AT 5 P.M. UNTIL TUESDAY AT 9 A.M., SO WE STARTED ABOUT WHEN EVERYONE ELSE DID AND THEN CLOSED DOWN, CONCLUDING WITH THE END OF THE EXTREME COLD WARNING.
THEY CHANGED THE NAME OF IT THIS YEAR.
WE DID DO THE VIRTUAL TOWN MEETINGS EVERY DAY WITH TOWN STAFF AND TRIED TO GIVE THEM JUST GENERAL
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SITUATIONAL AWARENESS, SHOW THEM CAMERAS AND STUFF LIKE THAT SO THEY CAN MAKE THOSE DECISIONS THAT THEY NEED TO MAKE ABOUT FACILITIES IN TOWN AND ALL THAT STUFF, BUT WE ALSO PARTICIPATE IN A LOT OF CALLS WITH THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE, WITH THE STATE, THE DISASTER DISTRICT, AND THE COUNTY, AND SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS HAPPEN MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY, SO IT CAN KIND OF FEEL MEETING TO MEETING TO MEETING TO MEETING, BUT YOU GET A LOT OF INFORMATION FROM THOSE AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE TO PARSE THAT DOWN TO MAKE IT MAKE SENSE IS REALLY THE IMPORTANT THING.IT'S KIND OF HARD TO SEE, SO DURING ANY WINTER WEATHER EVENT, ALL THE FIRE STATIONS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE STAFFED 24-7, AND THEY'RE ALWAYS AVAILABLE.
YOU CAN ALWAYS CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON EMERGENCY LINE IF YOU NEED SOMETHING, AND IF IT'S AN EMERGENCY, OBVIOUSLY, CALL 911.
THE TOWN HAS NOT PROVIDED PROACTIVE OR HAS NOT OPENED WARMING CENTERS PROACTIVELY IN THE PAST.
WE HAVE OPENED THEM SPECIFICALLY IN 2021 DUE TO AN IDENTIFIED NEED DUE TO THE POWER OUTAGES THAT HAPPENED DURING THAT EVENT, BUT THAT WAS KIND OF THE TRIGGER TO ACTIVATE THOSE WARMING CENTERS WAS THE POWER OUTAGES.
WE SAW A COUPLE OF POWER OUTAGES IN THIS EVENT THAT WERE ON THE BORDERS OF TOWN, BUT THE MAPS ARE NOT SUPER SPECIFIC, AND IF YOU'VE EVER LOOKED AT THEM, IT'S HARD TO TELL EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE, AND THEY WERE LESS THAN 100 CUSTOMERS AND LASTED LESS THAN AN HOUR AND A HALF, SO THAT WAS THE ONLY POWER OUTAGES THAT WE HAD DURING THIS EVENT.
AND IF I COULD JUST INTERJECT, TOO, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DISCUSSED PRETTY THOROUGHLY DURING THE COURSE OF THESE CALLS, AND ESPECIALLY IN A RUN-UP TO IT.
IT'S A CHALLENGE BECAUSE, LIKE WE SAID, DURING WINTER STORM YURI IN 21, WE STOOD UP A WARMING CENTER, AND NOBODY CAME OUT, AND IT TAKES TIME AND STAFF AND A LOT OF RESOURCES TO GET THOSE THINGS OPEN, SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IS THAT IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING SHIFTS IN A WEATHER EVENT, WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO STAND UP A FACILITY RATHER QUICKLY, SO IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE ASSESS IN REAL TIME, AND WE'LL MAKE THE DETERMINATION IF WE NEED TO STAND UP A WARMING CENTER, BUT THE MAIN THING IS IF SOMEBODY'S IN NEED, REACH OUT TO US.
WE'LL HELP YOU GET THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEED, BUT THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO IS HAVE SOMEBODY COME INTO A FACILITY, OPEN IT UP, DO ALL THOSE THINGS, AND NOBODY SHOWS UP, SO WE'RE WORKING IN REAL TIME, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALWAYS TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHEN WE GO INTO THESE EVENTS.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF NUMBERS ON THIS SLIDE.
I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THEM, BUT IT TAKES A LOT OF STUFF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE A LOT OF HOURS TO DO THIS, AND SOMETHING THAT I ACTUALLY LEARNED I DIDN'T KNOW WAS THAT A LOT OF THE STAFF THAT ARE HERE ON THOSE 12 OR 8-HOUR SHIFTS, THEY STAY HERE.
SO WHILE THIS IS WORKED HOURS, YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THERE'S A LOT MORE HOURS THERE WHERE PEOPLE WERE AWAY FROM HOME, AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILIES DURING A SEVERE WINTER STORM, AND YOU CAN KIND OF THINK ABOUT HOW THAT COULD BE DISTRESSING TO PEOPLE, BOTH TO OUR EMPLOYEES AND TO THEIR FAMILIES.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF SACRIFICE THAT HAPPENS THERE FOR THESE FOLKS, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO GET OUT IN THE ICE AND COLD AND TRY AND DRIVE AROUND, AND IT'S JUST A BIG SACRIFICE FOR THEM.
WE DID HAVE AN AMBUS DEPLOYMENT.
SO THE EMERGENCY MEDICAL TASK FORCE DEPLOYED OUR AMBUS TO LUBBOCK, AND THEY MOVED ONE FROM SOUTHERN TEXAS TO THE DFW AREA IN CASE WE NEEDED ONE HERE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE AMBUS DOES THAT'S PRETTY USEFUL ON THESE EVENTS IS IT CAN ACTUALLY USE THE GENERATOR ON IT TO POWER ALL OF THE AMBULANCES.
SO AMBULANCES HAVE EQUIPMENT AND MEDICATIONS INSIDE THAT HAVE TO BE CLIMATE CONTROLLED, SO THEY CAN DO THAT ON THAT GENERATOR FOR DAYS, AND THAT KEEPS THE AMBULANCES READY TO GO IF THEY NEED TO GO TO A CALL AND DOESN'T DEPLETE THEIR FUEL RESERVES WHILE THE AMBUS CAN STILL OPERATE AND MOVE JUST AS IT NEEDS TO, EVEN IF IT'S SITTING RUNNING THE GENERATOR FOR A FEW DAYS.
THE WEATHER WAS A LITTLE DIFFERENT UP THERE.
THEY DIDN'T GET SLEET, SO IT LOOKS LIKE THEY BUILT A LITTLE SNOW FIREMAN THERE.
WE DIDN'T GET TO BUILD ANYTHING HERE, I DON'T THINK.
I DIDN'T SEE VERY MANY AROUND HERE.
IT'S KIND OF HARD TO MOLD ICE, I THINK.
IT WAS A LITTLE COLDER THERE, THOUGH, SO THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE BETTER STUFF.
AND WE MENTIONED IT ALREADY, BUT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS JUST AWESOME.
THEY PUT TOGETHER SO MUCH STUFF, AND IT'S HARD TO EVEN EXPLAIN IN THIS, BUT BEFORE THE EVENT, THEY'RE PUTTING OUT MESSAGING, WHAT CAN YOU DO, WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT IS THE TOWN DOING.
THEY'RE TELLING THE STORY OF HOW THE TOWN STAFF IS RESPONDING TO THESE EVENTS, AND SOMETIMES THAT'S HARD TO DO BECAUSE THE INPUT THAT THEY GET ISN'T ALWAYS IN STORY FORM, SO THEY HAVE TO TAKE WHAT THEY GET AND MAKE IT INTO A WAY THAT EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND IT.
THEY DID TWO POSTS A DAY THROUGH MOST OF THE EVENT, AND IT TAKES A MINUTE OR TWO TO READ THOSE POSTS, BUT TO CRAFT THEM TAKES SOME TIME
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BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOT TO SIT THERE AND TYPE ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THEY THEN HAVE TO SHARE IT ON ALL OF THE TOWN'S SOCIAL MEDIA PAGES AND KIND OF PUT A LITTLE UNIQUE TWIST ON EACH ONE, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, THEY HAD MORE ENGAGEMENTS THAN TEN TIMES THE POPULATION OF THE TOWN, SO QUITE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENTS THERE FROM OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT.I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS THE LAST SLIDE JUST SHOWING SOME OF OUR AWESOME STAFF WHO WORKED THROUGH THIS EVENT.
AGAIN, A LOT OF THEM DIDN'T GET TO GO HOME, SO THEY GOT TO STAY HERE FOR A WEEKEND AND HELP OUR TOWN GET BACK IN SHAPE.
I CAN TRY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK FOR THE WINTER STORM.
DOES TXDOT HELP WITH ANY OF THE TXDOT ROADS, LIKE 2499, 1171? THEY DO NOT, SO THEY HAVE TIERS OF ROADS AND NONE OF THE ROADS IN FLOWER MOUNTAIN MEET ANY OF THOSE TIERS.
THEY ARE PRIMARILY FOCUSING ON INTERSTATES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, SO NO.
BOBBY, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD HAVE DONE TO TRY TO OPEN UP THE FLYOVER, THE GERO FLYOVER ANY SOONER? THAT WAS THE ONE THING I NOTICED THAT WAS STILL FROZEN, AND WHEN PEOPLE WERE GOING BACK TO WORK AND THERE WERE A LOT OF CARS STACKED UP AT THE END OF GERO, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE APPROACHED DIFFERENTLY? I'M NOT SURE ON THAT.
I WOULD SAY, JUST NOT SPEAKING ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS, BUT FROM A WEATHER PERSPECTIVE, SINCE IT'S A BRIDGE, YOU DO HAVE DIFFICULTIES BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE GROUND TEMPERATURE WARMING THINGS UP, SO AS LONG AS OUR AIR TEMPERATURE IS UNDER FREEZING, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HARD BECAUSE THAT'S JUST GOING TO KEEP MELTING AND REFREEZING EVERY DAY, EVERY MORNING.
THE ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD, BECAUSE I TALKED TO STAFF ABOUT IT, IT WAS DONE AT AN ABUNDANCE OF CAUTION.
WE JUST WANTED TO BE VERY CAREFUL BEFORE WE STARTED LETTING CARS GO UP THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS BECAUSE OF THE FACTORS HE JUST SAID.
IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE WERE TRYING TO BE CAUTIOUS BEFORE WE OPENED IT UP FULLY.
AT THE TIME, ON THE TRAFFIC PATTERNS, WE FELT LIKE THE NORMAL LIGHT AT GERO AND LONG PRAIRIE COULD FACILITATE MOST OF THE TRAFFIC.
AS I SET UP MY PRESENTATION, JUST AGAIN, THE WORK THAT OUR STAFF DOES AND PUTS IN THERE, AND YOU SEE THE PICTURES OF OUR FOLKS OVER IN PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE A HEART OF SERVICE AND IT'S JUST SOMETHING THEY GEAR UP FOR AND MAKE A LOT OF SACRIFICES TO DO THAT.
WHEN I TALK TO MY COUNTERPARTS, MOST PEOPLE THAT I TALK TO, THEY KNOW WHEN THEY GET IN THE FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE OUR MAJOR THOROUGHFARE IS IN A LOT BETTER SHAPE THAN A LOT OF OUR NEIGHBORS.
IT'S ATTRIBUTED TO THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO.
I JUST THANK YOU FOR Y'ALL'S SUPPORT FOR THE WORK THAT THEY DO.
MAYOR, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM ON THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.
WE HAD A WORK SESSION ON JANUARY 15TH IN REGARDS TO THE LATEST UPDATES WITH THE ART CENTER PROJECT AND THE RIVERWALK.
DURING THE COURSE OF THAT CONVERSATION, THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE CONVERSATION ROOTED AROUND THE ROLE THAT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION WILL HAVE IN THIS PROCESS.
WHAT I WANTED TO DO IS USE THIS MEETING AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DRILL DOWN A LITTLE BIT FURTHER IN THERE TO SHARE WITH YOU HOW THE PROCESS IS WORKING AND THE ROLE OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.
AND AT THE END, THERE'S A DECISION POINT WHERE I'M LOOKING FOR CONSENSUS DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL AS TO HOW DO YOU WANT THEM TO HAVE A ROLE POTENTIALLY WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS ASKED WAS, WHO'S ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE AS OF RIGHT NOW? AND IF ANYBODY KNOWS ME WELL, I HAVE FOUR CHILDREN.
I CAN BARELY REMEMBER THEIR NAMES.
I CAN'T REMEMBER EVERYBODY'S NAMES THAT'S ON HERE.
THIS IS AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST OF EVERYBODY WHO IS ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
I THINK I NAMED MOST OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE ON HERE.
I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WHEN YOU GET TO PROJECT MANAGEMENT AND CONSTRUCTION, DAVID BROCKAWAY WAS OUR FORMER CONSTRUCTION MANAGER HERE WITH THE TOWN.
HE'S NOW A SENIOR PROJECT ENGINEER.
WE BROUGHT IN A NEW CONSTRUCTION MANAGER.
I DON'T KNOW IF HE'S GOING TO TAKE DAVID'S SPOT, BUT YOU SEE THERE THAT WE HAVE GROUPS IN DIFFERENT AREAS.
WHEN IT COMES TO OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY, THAT IS THE ROLE THAT CHUCK JENNINGS, OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR, HAS AS WELL AS OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR, TRAVIS CUNNIFF.
TWO POSITIONS I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS TISH CARTER, WHO IS OUR ARTS MANAGER RIGHT NOW AND HANDLES OUR CURRENT ART ACTIVITIES, IS A PART OF THAT STEERING COMMITTEE.
AND JILL DURANIS, SHE'S OUR SPECIAL EVENTS MANAGER.
BUT HER ROLE IN THERE IS REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SHE HAS A BACKGROUND IN THEATER, AND SHE KNOWS HOW TO USE IT AS A STAKEHOLDER AND HAS A LOT OF TECHNICAL KNOWLEDGE.
AND THOSE HAVE BEEN VERY GREAT ON THE STEERING COMMITTEE.
IN ADDITION, FOR DENTON COUNTY, WHO'S OUR PARTNER ON THIS PROJECT, OUR COUNTY JUDGE ANDY EADES IS ON THERE AS WELL AS RENA MALONEY, WHO IS THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER FOR DENTON COUNTY.
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SO THEM, IN ADDITION TO OUR CONSULTANTS, THAT'S WHAT CURRENTLY CONSTITUTES OUR STEERING COMMITTEE.SO THIS GANTT CHART WAS SHOWN AT THE MEETING.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT BUSY FOR MY LIKING, AND SOMETIMES YOU CAN KIND OF MISS WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND SO AFTER THE PRESENTATION ON THE 15TH, I FELT THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A GREAT GANTT CHART, TO KIND OF DISTILL IN LITTLE SIMPLER TERMS. AND THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IN A SERIES OF NEXT SLIDES.
SO THE PHASE ONE IS THE MARKET ASSESSMENT.
AND I WON'T READ THIS SLIDE TO YOU.
BUT THIS IS THE WORK THAT GOES INTO TO SEE IF IT IS EVEN A VIABLE PROJECT FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE ENTERED INTO MULTIPLE TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
WE DID IT FIRST IN 2018 AT THE FIRST CONVERSATION.
AND THIS GO-AROUND WAS AN UPDATING OF THOSE NUMBERS ON SUBSEQUENT YEARS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING LINED UP TO SEE THAT THIS IS POTENTIALLY A VIABLE PROGRAM FOR THE TOWN.
AND SO ON THE SECOND SLIDE, YOU'LL SEE THAT IN PHASE ONE, WE HAD OUR KICKOFF MEETING WITH THE ADVISORY COMMITTEE ON OCTOBER 22ND, OUR SECOND MEETING ON DECEMBER 10TH.
AND THEN THE NEXT DAY IS WHEN WE HAD A SERIES OF STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO NOTICE THAT I'M BOLDING AND PUTTING IN DIFFERENT COLOR, DIFFERENT COMPONENTS, BECAUSE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF THE WORK OUR CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION MADE.
THEY WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS, PROVIDING FEEDBACK.
THEY SIT ON THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDER GROUPS THAT PROVIDED FEEDBACK TO OUR CONSULTANTS.
AND SO I SHARE THAT TO KNOW THAT THEIR THOUGHTS, THEIR INFLUENCE IS HEAVILY ROOTED IN THE DATA THAT WE TOOK AWAY FROM THIS PROCESS.
AND SO RIGHT NOW, WE'RE CURRENTLY IN PHASE TWO, AND THAT'S PRE-DESIGN AND PROGRAMMING.
AND I'M GOING TO READ THIS SLIDE JUST A LITTLE BIT.
AND THIS IS, WE'RE AT A POINT WHERE WE'RE RESEARCHING, GATHERING DATA, AND ANALYSIS TO FIND A PROJECT SCOPE, BUDGET, AND I'LL COME BACK TO THAT IN A SECOND, SCHEDULING AND CLIENT GOALS.
THE THINGS I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYTHING ELSE, THERE'S NO ACTUAL DESIGN TAKING PLACE AT THIS POINT.
AND I THINK THAT IS A CONCERN FOR SOME THAT WE'RE BEHIND THE SCENES DESIGNING THE BUILDING.
IF ANYTHING, IF YOU USE THE EXPRESSION THAT HAS A TRAIN LEFT THE STATION, THE TRAIN'S STILL IN THE FACTORY.
WE HAVEN'T EVEN PUT IT ON THE TRACKS YET.
SO I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO THE BUDGET, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DIDN'T DO A VERY GOOD JOB OF ARTICULATING AT THAT MEETING ON THE 15TH IS THAT PART OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THAT I SPECIFICALLY BRING TO THE TABLE AS THE TOWN MANAGER IS I KNOW THE MECHANICS OF THE TERS AND OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GENERATE THE REVENUE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
IT CAN BE A COMPLEX TO A LAYPERSON.
I'M GOING TO KEEP THAT COMMENT TO MYSELF.
BUT IT CAN BE COMPLEX TO THE LAYPERSON.
AND I FELT BRINGING SOMEBODY INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS WHEN WE'RE STILL WORKING THIS PROCESS OUT WILL PROBABLY ALLOW THAT PERSON TO BE VERY FRUSTRATED.
I THINK THAT IF WE DO WANT TO ADD A MEMBER OF THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE, THERE'S AN AMPLE TIME TO DO THAT.
AND I'LL GET TO THAT IN A SECOND.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE TIMELINE UP HERE, YOU CAN SEE THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD UP TO THIS POINT WITH THE STEERING COMMITTEE AND THAT UPDATE WE HAD ON THE 15TH.
OUR NEXT STEERING COMMITTEE MEETING IS ON THE 10TH.
WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A COMMON THEME THROUGH PHASE TWO THROUGH PHASE FOUR, IS THAT IN MARCH, AND MARCH IS GOING TO BE KIND OF A TRICKY MONTH FOR US BECAUSE WHEN WE GET TO FUTURE CALENDARS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS POTENTIALLY CANCELING THE MARCH 16TH COUNCIL MEETING AND MOVING UP THE WORK SESSION FROM THE 19TH TO THE 12TH.
WE'RE DOING THAT FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
ONE, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE OUT OF POCKET DURING SPRING BREAK.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS ARE GOING TO BE GETTING EXTENSIVE AV WORK DONE AT THAT TIME.
AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, WE'RE REPLACING THE MICROPHONES TOO.
SO WE'RE GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF.
SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSION TO FIND A TIME, SOMETIME, IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN EARLY MARCH.
IF NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY THE FIRST WEEK IN APRIL WHEN WE GET THAT DONE.
BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENGAGE THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.
THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE US THEIR FEEDBACK.
AND YOU SEE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AFTER THAT.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY PROVIDE, PUT IT TOGETHER, AND BRING IT TO YOU AS A COUNCIL AS WE WRAP UP PHASE NUMBER TWO.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE THROUGHOUT THIS IS THAT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO BE ENGAGED DIRECTLY.
AND THEIR FEEDBACK IS GOING TO BE SOUGHT DIRECTLY IN THIS PROCESS.
AND THIS IS REALLY WHERE THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD WHEN WE GET TO SCHEMATIC DESIGN.
THIS IS WHEN THE SHAPE OF THE BUILDING STARTS COMING TOGETHER, THE ORIENTATION.
SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS I THINK PEOPLE ARE MOST, THAT PEOPLE FEEL ARE MOST IMPORTANT.
IT'S GOING TO START TALKING ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE THEATER, THE THINGS THAT ARE INSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND I THINK THIS IS WHERE REALLY THE RUBBER MEETS THE ROAD.
AND THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE DO WANT TO EXPLORE ADDING SOMEBODY TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE WHERE IT TAKES PLACE.
YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT IN APRIL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE DESIGN KICKOFF.
AND THEN SOMETIME IN MAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO TO DESIGN OPTIONS.
WE'RE AGAIN GOING TO GO TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION AT SOME POINT IN MAY.
BECAUSE THEIR MEETING SCHEDULE IS NOT NECESSARILY EVERY MONTH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL A SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE THIS IS A BIG PROJECT.
AND THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION NEEDS TO BE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN IT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO BACK, TAKE THAT FEEDBACK FROM THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, AND THEN COME TO YOU ALL FOR FINAL APPROVAL ON PHASE NUMBER THREE.
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DEVELOPMENT.THIS IS WHEN WE START DESIGNING THE BUILDING IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE ELEVATIONS, HOW IT'S GOING TO LOOK, HOW IT'S GOING TO OPERATE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
YOU CAN SEE WE'RE GOING TO GET DOWN TO THE MATERIALS BEING USED, THE FIXTURES, THE FINISHES, THE MEP.
IT'S THE BRIDGE FROM TAKING IT FROM DESIGN TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO ACTUALLY START GETTING WORK.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO START PRINCIPALLY DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
IN JULY, WE'LL DO OUR KICKOFF MEETING ON PHASE NUMBER FOUR.
IN AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING AND ALSO THE INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE AGAIN GOING TO COME TO THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION, GIVE THEM PRESENTATIONS AND GIVE THEM ALL THE DETAILS IN THE EXTERIOR AND INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING, GET THEIR FEEDBACK, AND THEN COME TO YOU ALL IN OCTOBER.
SO IT GIVES YOU A SENSE THAT THIS PHASE FOUR IS GOING TO COME TO YOU ALL IN THE FALL, IN THE LATE FALL.
I SHOULD SAY LATE FALL, AROUND OCTOBER, LATE OCTOBER.
SO, IN ADDITION TO THE FOUR PHASES THAT WE LAID OUT THERE, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL PHASES THAT, AGAIN, I WON'T READ ALL THOSE.
YOU HAVE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS THAT ARE PRODUCED, BIDDING AND NEGOTIATIONS, AND THEN CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION.
ONE THING I WILL POINT OUT HERE IN THAT SECOND BULLET IS THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE A PROCESS CALLED CMAR, CONSTRUCTION MANAGER AT RISK, TO DELIVER THIS FACILITY.
AND WHAT THAT DOES IS THAT DURING THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE'RE GOING TO BRING ON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO BE A PART OF THE DESIGN PROCESS.
BUT THE VALUE OF THIS DELIVERY METHOD FOR A PROJECT IS THAT THAT GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE SETS THE CEILING FOR THE PROJECT.
SO IT'S A SITUATION WHERE THE PRICES CAN'T ESCALATE.
AND IT'S INCUMBENT ON THAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER TO CONTROL COSTS AND MAKE SURE HE HITS THAT NUMBER, HE OR SHE HITS THAT NUMBER.
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF THEY GO OVER THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EAT THAT EXPENSE.
AND SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT AS WE GET FURTHER IN THE PROCESS AND THE DELIVERY METHOD ON IT.
BUT, AGAIN, EVEN AFTER WE FINISH PHASE FOUR, THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTION ON THE FACILITY.
I TOOK THAT GANTT CHART AND JUST PULLED OUT THE HIGH POINTS IN IT.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION IS GOING TO HAVE A HEAVY ROLE THROUGHOUT PHASES TWO, THREE, AND FOUR IN THIS PROCESS.
SO, ULTIMATELY, WHAT I'M COMING BACK TO YOU ALL IS JUST TO SEE IS THAT IS THERE STILL A DESIRE TO ADD A CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION MEMBER TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE? WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
WHAT I ASK IS THAT IF THAT'S THE DECISION, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT WE BRING THEM ON IN PHASE THREE.
I THINK IT'S THE BEST ONBOARDING PROCESS FOR A NEW MEMBER.
AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY'LL BE INVOLVED IN THE ASPECTS OF THE PROJECT I THINK THAT THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO HONE IN ON, AND THAT'S THE ACTUAL DESIGN OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
SO, WITH THAT, I'M LOOKING JUST FOR A CONSENSUS DIRECTION TO SAY, DO WE WANT TO ADD A MEMBER TO THE STEERING COMMITTEE? ARE WE COMFORTABLE WITH THE ROLE THAT THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION HAS ON THE CURRENT LAYOUT RIGHT THERE? SO, THAT IS MY PRESENTATION, AND I'M HERE TO LISTEN TO FEEDBACK.
YES, I BELIEVE THE CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION OR A DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD SIT ON THAT STEERING COMMITTEE, AND PHASE THREE IS FINE AND SEEMS APPROPRIATE.
I LIKE THAT IDEA, AND I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF DOING THE REGULAR MEETINGS WITH THE ENTIRE COMMISSION.
SO, WHAT WE WILL DO IS WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMMISSION CHAIR, WE'LL DESIGNATE THAT PERSON, AND WE WILL ONBOARD THEM INTO THE PROCESS DURING PHASE THREE AROUND APRIL, MAY TIMEFRAME, AND THEY'LL BE INVOLVED WHEN WE START ACTUALLY DESIGNING THE BUILDING.
LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S KIND OF HARD TO GET EVERYTHING I SHARED FROM THAT, BUT WE BROKE IT OUT, AND I GOT THE INFORMATION I NEED TO PROCEED.
SO, WITH THAT, WHILE I'M UP HERE, THE LAST THING I DO WANT TO NOTE IS THAT THE FLOWER MOUND PUBLIC LIBRARY IS THE RECIPIENT OF THE TEXAS MUNICIPAL LIBRARY DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION ACHIEVEMENT IN EXCELLENT LIBRARIES AWARD.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR, BUT THE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO DO IS TAKE THESE FOR GRANTED.
IT'S A LOT OF HARD WORK, AND WE'RE APPRECIATIVE OF RACHEL HEDINI, OUR DIRECTOR, AND THEIR STAFF.
THEY DO A GREAT JOB SERVING OUR LIBRARY PATRONS, AND AGAIN, ONCE AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THEIR PEERS AS A LIBRARY OF EXCELLENCE.
WE'RE IN THE TOP 20 IN THE STATES.
THERE'S ABOUT 545 PUBLIC LIBRARY SYSTEMS IN THE STATE OF TEXAS, AND ONLY 100 RECEIVED THIS RECOGNITION.
SO, AGAIN, IF YOU TAKE THE TIME TO SEE RACHEL, CONGRATULATE HER AND HER STAFF ON THE GREAT JOB THAT THEY DO AT THE LIBRARY.
SO, WITH THAT, MAYOR, THAT IS THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.
[G. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S) ]
THAT WAS A GOOD ONE.SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. I DO WANT TO SAY, WE DID HAVE, BRONZE PETERSON CAME FORWARD, AND I KNOW HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE RIGHT-OF-WAY.
THOSE HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP, I KNOW, IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, THE LAST, WHAT, A COUPLE YEARS, MAYBE? SO, I DON'T KNOW IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING.
MAYOR, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME CONVERSATIONS WITH TOMMY.
TOMMY, ARE WE AT THE POINT IN THE FACT-FINDING TO WHERE WE NEED A DISCRETIONARY ITEM TO BRING SOMETHING TO COUNCIL? I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, AS BRONZE MENTIONED, I ASKED HIM TO PROVIDE ME A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON HIS CONCERNS.
I THINK I GLEANED THEM FROM OUR PHONE CALL LAST WEEK.
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GROUP.HE'S LOOKING AT IT, ALONG WITH TOLL'S ENGINEER.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT NECESSARILY WARRANTS A COUNCIL DISCUSSION, BUT THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
MORE AS IT GOES ALONG IN THE PROCESS, IT'LL BE DISCUSSED, I GUESS.
IS IT SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A WORK SESSION ITEM AT SOME POINT DOWN THE ROAD? I DEFINITELY DON'T THINK IT WARRANTS A WORK SESSION.
I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE BEST ROUTE WOULD BE FOR HIM TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH STAFF ENGINEERS.
THEY'RE THE MOST FAMILIAR WITH THE PLANS AND THE LAYOUT OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EACH OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS, AND ALSO THE TIMING OF THE ROAD PROJECT ALONG SCENIC.
SO, I WOULD SAY THAT WORKING WITH OUR ENGINEERS IS PROBABLY THE BEST AND MOST AS FAR AS HIM UNDERSTANDING EXACTLY WHAT TIMING IS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT THAT INTERSECTION, I THINK WORKING WITH THE ENGINEERS, LOOKING AT PLANS, AND LAYING THEM OUT IS PROBABLY HIS BEST BET.
SO, BRONZE, CAN YOU FOLLOW THAT PROCESS? AND THEN WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
AND IF THERE COMES A POINT WHERE WE NEED A DISCRETIONARY ITEM, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND HAVE ONE.
AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS THEY WANT
[H. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS ]
TO ADD? OTHER THAN THAT.WE'LL MOVE ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.
AND WE HAVE A FEBRUARY 16TH REGULAR MEETING AND A FEBRUARY 16TH TERS 2 BOARD MEETING AT 5 P.M.
WE WERE GOING TO HAVE THAT TODAY, BUT WE HAD THE TERS 1 MEETING INSTEAD.
AND THEN MARCH 2ND, WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING.
AND THEN, AS JAMES INDICATED, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME AV WORK DONE.
AND THEN WE HAVE SPRING BREAK AS WELL, THE WEEK OF THE 16TH.
SO, THAT REGULAR MEETING IS CANCELED.
AND THEN THE MARCH 19TH WORK SESSION IS RESCHEDULED TO MARCH 12TH.
I WILL BE THERE UNLESS I HAVE A SKIING ACCIDENT.
WHAT THE WHAT? STAY IN THE LODGE.
[I. CONSENT ITEM(S) ]
STAY IN THE LODGE.WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS. WE HAVE HOW MANY CONSENT ITEMS? OKAY.
DOES ANYONE WISH TO REMOVE ANY CONSENT ITEMS? OR DO YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE? I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF CONSENT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 12 AS PRESENTED.
YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER? AYE.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL? AYE.
[J.1. ZPD25-0007 - Charco Storage - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance amending the zoning (ZPD25-0007 – Charco Storage) from Planned Development District-120 (PD-120) with Single-Family District 5 (SF-5) and Retail District-2 (R-2) uses to PD-120 with SF-5 and Commercial District-1 (C-1) uses to modify the conceptual plans, elevations, and development standards for the non-residential portion, with certain modifications, exceptions and waivers to the Code of Ordinances. The property is generally located at the northwest corner of Flower Mound Road and Old Orchard Lane. (PZ recommended denial by a vote of 6 to 0 at its December 8, 2025, meeting.) (Town Council tabled this item to February 2, 2026, by a vote of 4 to 0 at its January 20, 2026, meeting.) ]
COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? AYE.SO, CONSENT ITEMS 1 THROUGH 12 PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEM ON THE CHARCOAL STORAGE UNIT.
NOW, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.
I HAVE A LOT OF COMMENT CARDS HERE.
SO, WE'LL WAIT UNTIL THE PRESENTATION IS DONE, AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO, IF YOU DO WISH TO SPEAK OR EVEN NOT SPEAK AND MAKE A SUPPORT OR OPPOSITION, THEN YOU CAN FILL OUT A CARD AND GIVE IT TO TRACY OVER THERE.
AND SO, LEXAN IS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PRESENT.
AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROPOSED ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS AMENDING AN EXISTING PD FOR CHARCOAL STORAGE.
THE COUNCIL MAY RECALL THIS WAS BEFORE YOU AT THE LAST MEETING, AND WE TABLED IT TO THIS MEETING.
THE APPLICANT TOOK SOME TIME AFTER THE P&Z MEETING TO TRY TO MAKE SOME UPDATES TO THEIR PLANS.
SO, THEY TRIED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP THERE.
SO, TONIGHT, WE ARE PRESENTING THEIR UPDATED PLANS ALONG WITH THIS REQUEST.
HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE IT'S AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF FLOWER MOUND ROAD AND OLD ORCHARD LANE.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL.
THE CURRENT ZONING IS PD 120 WITH RETAIL TWO USES.
SO, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THIS ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT IS FOR C1 USES.
THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT BECAUSE THE TOWN'S CODE DOES SAY THAT C1 ZONING CAN BE APPROPRIATE IN RETAIL LAND USE.
I HAVE SOME PHOTOS FROM THE SITE.
SO, THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST ACROSS FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
AND THIS IS JUST SAME VIEW NORTHEAST, BUT FROM A LITTLE BIT FURTHER WEST ACROSS FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
AND HERE WE ARE LOOKING WEST ACROSS OLD ORCHARD.
HERE IS THE GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN.
JUST TO SHOW YOU THAT FROM THE START, AND WE'LL GO THROUGH MORE DETAILS.
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THE PROPOSED ZONING IS C1, PART OF A PLAN DEVELOPMENT.OVERALL, IT'S 117,474 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
THE ACTUAL FOOTPRINT IS A LITTLE LESS THAN 40,000.
IT'S PROPOSED TO HAVE A BASEMENT AND THEN TWO ABOVE GROUND FLOORS.
AND, YOU KNOW, DRIVEWAYS CIRCLING AROUND, ACCESS OFF OF BOTH OLD ORCHARD AND FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
AND THEN THERE IS AN EXISTING ACCESS POINT TO THE WEST AS WELL.
IT'S CURRENTLY OPEN WITH THIS PROPOSAL.
IT WOULD BE CHANGED TO BE EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY.
HERE'S THAT CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.
ONE THING THAT'S CHANGING WITH THIS PROPOSAL IS THAT THEY ARE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THERE BETWEEN THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST THAT WAS ORIGINALLY FIVE FEET WAS PROVIDED ON THE COMMERCIAL SITE WITH THE REMAINING 20 FEET WAS PROVIDED ON THE RETAIL SITE.
SO THEY'RE INCREASING THAT TO BE MORE THAN 20 FEET ON THE COMMERCIAL SITE AS WELL.
OTHERWISE MEETING THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.
HERE ARE THOSE ELEVATIONS, KIND OF GROUPED THEM ALL TOGETHER ON THIS AS YOUR PREVIEW.
BUT SO THIS IS GENERALLY WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
I DO KNOW THAT, AGAIN, THE COUNCIL LIKES TO HEAR IF APPLICANTS ARE WILLING TO TAKE FEEDBACK FROM STAFF THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO I WILL SAY THE APPLICANT WAS WILLING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PLANS IN TALKING TO STAFF.
THE COLORS WERE ORIGINALLY A MUCH BRIGHTER ORANGE TYPE OF COLOR.
AND SO WE WORKED WITH THE APPLICANT TO CHANGE THAT COLOR, GET IT MORE IN THE EARTH TONE FAMILY THAT FLOWER MOUND IS USED TO.
THEY WERE ALSO WILLING TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL DESIGN AND CIRCULATION OF THE BUILDING.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, PUTTING IN THE WINDOWS AS WELL.
AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT TRUE WINDOWS IS MY UNDERSTANDING, BUT IT'S TO GIVE MORE OF A LOOK OF AN OFFICE BUILDING AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING MORE LIKE A WAREHOUSE BUILDING.
SO THEY DID TAKE SOME FEEDBACK FROM STAFF.
AND SO NOW THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AS OUR BRIEF SNAPSHOT, JUST WANTED TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS PLANS FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO ORIGINALLY IT WAS APPROVED IN 2012.
AND SO THIS IS THAT ORIGINAL 2012 CONCEPT PLAN.
IT HAD TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS, ONE A LITTLE LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET, ONE A LITTLE LESS THAN 14,000 SQUARE FEET.
WITH THIS PROPOSAL IS WHERE THAT FIVE-FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON THE COMMERCIAL SIDE WAS ESTABLISHED.
AT THIS POINT, THE MAJORITY OF THIS AREA BACK HERE ALONG THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY WAS THE WROUGHT IRON FENCING.
IT WAS MORE OPEN TO THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION.
BECAUSE, AGAIN, THIS WAS BROUGHT FORWARD AS AN OVERALL DEVELOPMENT WITH THE AGE-RESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY TO THE NORTH AND THEN THE COMMERCIAL PIECE TO THE SOUTH.
THIS WAS THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WENT WITH THAT.
THEN IN 2018, THE GODDARD SCHOOL CAME FORWARD.
AND SO THIS WAS AMENDED TO ALLOW FOR A DAYCARE USE ON ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.
IT ALSO CHANGED FROM, IN THIS ORIGINAL VERSION, THERE WAS AN AMENITY AREA BETWEEN THESE TWO BUILDINGS.
AND SO WITH THIS VERSION, THE AMENITY AREA WAS MOVED FURTHER OVER TO THE EAST TO BE WITH THIS BUILDING.
AND THERE WAS A DRIVEWAY PUT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS INSTEAD.
THIS WAS ALSO WHEN IT WAS A DAYCARE, A MASONRY WALL WAS PUT IN PLACE ADJACENT TO THE DAYCARE FOR SAFETY CONCERNS WITH CHILDREN.
THEN IN 2018, THIS WAS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
SO THEN IN 2022, IT CAME BACK.
AND SO WE DID AWAY WITH THE DAYCARE.
WE'RE BACK TO THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS, STILL MAINTAINED THE ACCESS BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS.
AGAIN, BOTH OF THEM WENT A LITTLE LESS THAN 11,000, WENT A LITTLE LESS THAN 12,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT WERE APPROVED WITH THIS.
IT WAS PARKED AT, I BELIEVE, 146 SPACES, 70 FOR ONE BUILDING AND 76 FOR THE OTHER.
IT WAS GENERALLY IN LINE WITH THE TOWN STANDARD BASED ON THE SIZING AND THE RETAIL USE.
SO THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR THE SITE, IS THE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS WITH THIS AMENITY AREA BETWEEN.
IT WAS APPROVED WITH THESE TWO ACCESS POINTS, ONE OFF OLD ORCHARD AND ONE OFF FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
AND AGAIN, THIS ACCESS TO THE WEST AS WELL IS CURRENTLY APPROVED AS AN UNRESTRICTED ACCESS POINT.
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LIKE NOW.AND THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY APPROVED.
SO THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HEIGHT AND ONE-STORY VERSUS TWO-STORY AND COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.
AND THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHT OF WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED FOR THIS PROPERTY VERSUS WHAT IS PROPOSED WITH THIS PROJECT.
THE DIFFERENCE IS IF SOMETHING IS ONE-STORY VERSUS TWO-STORY.
SO IF IT'S ONE-STORY, WE JUST HAVE A GENERAL 60-FOOT COMPATIBILITY SETBACK FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL USES.
IF IT'S TWO-STORY, THAT CHANGES FROM JUST BEING FLAT 60 TO BEING FIVE FEET OF SETBACK FOR EVERY ONE FOOT OF HEIGHT.
AND SO THE REASONING BEHIND THAT IS THAT IF YOU HAVE TWO STORIES, YOU COULD HAVE PEOPLE ON THAT SECOND STORY KIND OF LOOKING DOWN INTO THE PERSON'S YARD THAT'S NEXT TO IT.
SO THAT'S WHY WE DO IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
SO THAT'S WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.
THEY'RE ROUGHLY THE SAME HEIGHT BUILDING, BUT WE MEASURE THEM DIFFERENTLY WHEN THEY'RE ONE-STORY VERSUS TWO-STORY.
SO THIS WAS A VERY TALL ONE-STORY BUILDING, AND IT DOES HAVE KIND OF THESE UPPER-STORY WINDOWS.
BUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO FLOOR THERE, THERE REALLY COULD BE NO ONE KIND OF LOOKING DOWN THROUGH THOSE WINDOWS ONTO THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES.
SO, LEXAN, IS THAT 20 FEET OR 26 FEET TO THE TOP OF THE TOWER, NOT THE ROOF LINE? I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I GET THE NUMBERS RIGHT.
OR IS IT 24 FEET? WHICH IS THE HEIGHT OF THE CURRENTLY APPROVED BUILDING? THIS IS TOWER 26 FEET.
ANYWAY, THERE'S ALSO A DIFFERENCE IN, JUST TO MAKE SURE FOR EVERYBODY'S REFERENCE, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE ON HOW YOU MEASURE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THIS BUILDING, THE HEIGHT OF THE PARAPET DOES NOT COUNT TOWARD THE OVERALL BUILDING HEIGHT BECAUSE NOBODY CAN BE THERE EITHER.
THAT'S JUST USED AS SCREENING FOR MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.
SO WHATEVER YOUR PARAPET WALL SCREENING IS, NOBODY CAN BE UP THERE.
THAT'S REALLY JUST SCREENING YOUR ROOFTOP UNIT TYPE OF THING FROM VIEW.
SO THAT PARAPET WALL CAN BE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS.
WE ALLOW PEOPLE TO HAVE THEM UP TO 10 FEET AND NOT TO COUNT TOWARD THAT OVERALL HEIGHT.
I WILL SAY THIS IS THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AS IS PROPOSED.
SO THIS IS THE ONE FACING TO THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO THEY DID NOT PUT WINDOWS ON THIS SIDE THAT'S FACING TO THE RESIDENTIAL THERE.
NOW, THERE ARE SOME WINDOWS HERE THAT'S FACING TO THE WEST.
BUT TO BE FAIR, I THINK THE HOUSES ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY FAR AWAY FROM THIS TO THE WEST.
IT'S ONLY 60 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE.
BUT THEN YOU HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFER AND A ROAD, AND THEN YOU GET TO THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
SO, AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THE APPLICANT DID MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THEIR PROPOSAL BETWEEN P&Z AND COUNCIL.
SO THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SUMMARY OF THOSE CHANGES.
AND THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE EXACT CHANGES TO THE TEXT.
SO MINOR WORDING CHANGES AND EDITS IN THE PD.
CHANGED SIGNS FROM APPROXIMATE SIZE TO MAXIMUM SIZE TO CLARIFY FOR ENFORCEMENT.
REMOVAL OF LANGUAGE REGARDING PD AMENDMENTS OR TOWN MANAGER APPROVALS FOR FUTURE CHANGES.
INCLUDED CLARIFIED LANGUAGE FOR DEVELOPMENT PHASING AND SETBACK EXCEPTION.
FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PHASING, THEY JUST TOOK OUT A SENTENCE THAT REFERRED TO THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, WHICH THE RESIDENTIAL HAS ALREADY DEVELOPED.
INCLUDED LANGUAGE TO CLARIFY THAT DUMPSTERS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT IMPROVEMENTS, AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLAN, ARE ALLOWED AN EXPANDED COMPATIBILITY BUFFER.
AND THEN FOR THE REDUCTION IN THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, P&Z SHOWED A PARAPET HEIGHT OF 32 FEET AND A ROOF HEIGHT OF 27 FEET 6 INCHES.
THE TOWN COUNCIL PLAN SHOW A PARAPET HEIGHT OF 30 FEET AND A ROOF HEIGHT OF 23 FEET 7 INCHES.
SO TO ACCOMMODATE THIS CHANGE, THE APPLICANT MOVED THEIR ROOFTOP EQUIPMENT TO THE GROUND ON THE NORTHEAST AND WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO RATHER THAN PUTTING THEIR AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT THEM ON THE GROUND.
THEY'LL STILL HAVE TO BE SCREENED, BUT THAT ALLOWED THEM TO TAKE THE HEIGHT DOWN.
AND THAT'S ON THE SIDE OF THE RESIDENTIAL.
IT SAYS ON THE NORTHEAST AND WEST SIDE.
SO YES, THAT IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.
ELEVATOR SCREENING WAS MODIFIED
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TO NO LONGER BE BEHIND PARAPETS, BUT INSTEAD BE CLAD IN MATERIALS CONSISTENT WITH EXTERIOR BUILDING MATERIALS.AND THEN THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT LANGUAGE WAS MODIFIED TO READ AS FOLLOWS.
MAXIMUM HEIGHT BUILDING SHALL NOT EXCEED THREE STORIES, INCLUDING ANY BASEMENT, AND SHALL NOT EXCEED A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 23 FEET 7 INCHES, AS MEASURED FROM THE AVERAGE FINISHED GRADE AT THE BUILDING FOUNDATION TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE ROOF STRUCTURE.
I WILL SAY THAT'S NOT WHAT THE TOWN STANDARD NORMALLY IS FOR HOW YOU MEASURE THAT.
THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MODIFY KIND OF WHERE YOU START FROM.
LEXAN, CAN YOU REFRESH US ON HOW WE TYPICALLY WOULD MEASURE THAT HEIGHT? YES.
USUALLY YOU WOULD DO IT FROM THE ROAD GRADE, BASICALLY, OR FROM THE AVERAGE FRONT SETBACK.
SO DEPENDING ON HOW THE PROPERTY'S DEVELOPED.
SO I GUESS THE CONCERN HERE WOULD BE, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE WOULD BE AN INTEREST IN DOING THAT, BUT IF YOU JUST SAY YOU'RE DOING IT FROM THE AVERAGE FINISHED GRADE, SOMEONE COULD PRESUMABLY BUILD UP, DO A LOT OF FILL, AND THEN JUST START MEASURING FROM THERE, AS OPPOSED TO IF YOU JUST DO IT FROM THE AVERAGE FRONT YARD OR FROM THE ROAD.
IT'S HOW IT SITS TODAY, AS OPPOSED TO WHERE YOU MIGHT BUILD IT TO BE.
WERE YOU QUESTIONING THAT WORDING AT ALL? WERE YOU WANTING TO CHANGE THAT WORDING? I MEAN, THAT'S UP TO COUNCIL.
WHEN THE APPLICANT PRESENTS, Y'ALL CAN ASK HIM TO GIVE MORE INSIGHT INTO WHY HE'S PROPOSING THAT SPECIFIC WORDING.
DO WE KNOW IF THE PROPERTY IS SLIGHTLY HIGHER ABOVE THE ROAD GRADE, OR HOW MUCH? I DON'T KNOW THE EXACTS, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ENGINEERING YET, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TON OF GRADE CHANGE THERE.
SO MODIFICATIONS TO THE USE, PROPOSING TO PERMIT A MINI-WAREHOUSE BY RIGHT.
C1 REQUIRES MINI-WAREHOUSE USERS TO RECEIVE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.
BUT BASICALLY, JUST SINCE THE APPLICANT KNOWS THIS IS THE USE THEY'RE WANTING TO PURSUE, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO COME BACK AND APPLY FOR ANOTHER SPECIFIC USE PERMIT APPLICATION AFTERWARDS, IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEY'RE JUST ASKING FOR IT TO BE APPROVED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
AND THEN THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE WERE DISCUSSING.
MODIFYING THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK STANDARDS FOR BUILDINGS TWO STORIES OR GREATER, A SETBACK OF FIVE FEET FOR EVERY ONE FOOT OF BUILDING HEIGHT IS PROVIDED.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, IN THIS SITUATION, BASED ON THE HEIGHT THEY'VE REDUCED IT TO, THAT FIVE FEET FOR EVERY ONE FOOT STANDARD WOULD REQUIRE A SETBACK OF 118 FEET.
AND AGAIN, THEY'RE PROPOSING THE 60 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH WOULD BE OUR TYPICAL STANDARD FOR THE ONE STORY BUILDING.
THEY'RE REQUESTING A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE.
THIS IS TO INCLUDE MURALS ON THE FACADE OF THE BUILDING, AS DEPICTED ON THE CONCEPT PLANS.
AND THEN THIS IS JUST TO GIVE SOME MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT.
SO ALL SIGNAGE COMPLY WITH CHAPTER 86, MAXIMUM TWO MONUMENT SIGNS PERMITTED.
AND THEN NO WALL SIGNAGE ON BUILDING ELEVATIONS FACING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES NORTH AND WEST, EXCEPT FOR THE DECORATIVE MURAL PANELS, AS SPECIFIED.
AND THEN TO GIVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ABOUT THAT, LASER CUT STEEL PANELS DEPICTING FLORAL MOTIFS ON EXTERIOR FACADES, AS SHOWN ON THE ELEVATIONS.
THEY MAY INCORPORATE INTERNAL BACKLIGHTING ON STREET FACING ELEVATIONS, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING.
THERE'S ONLY TEN TOTAL MURALS CAN BE PUT INTO THE BUILDING, NOT TO EXCEED FOUR FEET WIDE BY 22 FEET HIGH EACH.
TWO MURALS ON THE EAST ELEVATION, TWO MURALS ON THE WEST ELEVATION, AND THEN SIX MURALS ON THE SOUTH ELEVATION, WHICH IS THE PRIMARY STREET FACING SIDE.
NO BACKLIT PANELS SHALL BE LOCATED ON THE NORTH OR THE NORTHWESTERN PORTION OF THE WEST ELEVATION, WHERE ADJACENT TO RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
THE BACKLIT PANELS ARE PERMITTED AT THE SOUTHWESTERN CORNER AREA, AS SPECIFIED.
THEY SHALL NOT, AND THEN THEY'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL OF OUR STANDARDS, NOT EXCEEDING 15 WATTS PER FIXTURE, UTILIZING LED, FULLY RECESSED BEHIND PANELS, INCLUDING DIMMING CAPABILITY.
ALL THAT WILL HAVE, THEY'LL HAVE TO DO A PHOTOMETRIC STUDY AT THE TIME OF SITE PLAN AND WOULD HAVE TO PROVE THAT IT COMPLIES WITH THE TOWN'S LIGHTING STANDARDS AND REQUIREMENTS.
THIS IS NOT REQUESTING ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTING THAT WOULD NOT MEET OUR STANDARDS.
SO LEXAN, CAN YOU GO BACK? ON THE LASER CUT PANELS, IT SAYS, AS SHOWN ON APPROVED ELEVATIONS, WILL THE DESIGN OF THESE MURALS BE PART OF WHAT WE APPROVE, OR CAN THAT DESIGN BE CHANGED LATER? NO, IT WOULD BE PART OF WHAT'S APPROVED HERE.
THERE COULD CONCEIVABLY BE SOME SLIGHT VARIATION TO THE FLORAL DESIGN,
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BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO GENERALLY COMPLY WITH THIS.CERTAINLY COULD NOT CHANGE THE SIZING, HOW IT'S LIT, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A FLORAL DESIGN.
NOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL FELT VERY STRONGLY ABOUT, WE CAN ENSURE THAT THE WORDING REQUIRES IT TO BE THIS EXACT FLORAL DESIGN.
C1 USES, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS.
AND THEN THEY'RE ALSO LIMITING THE PERMITTED USES ALLOWED IN C1.
SO BESIDES THE SUP TAKING THAT OUT AND MAKING IT ALLOWED BY RIGHT AS THE MINI WAREHOUSE USE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO RESTRICT OR PROHIBIT ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, ANIMAL CONTROL FACILITY, MORTUARY OR FUNERAL HOME, PET STORE, RESTAURANT, FAST FOOD, AND THEATER AS PERMITTED USES.
THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL USES SHALL BE PERMITTED WITHIN C1, AS WE SAID, MINI WAREHOUSE.
AND THEN THEY WROTE IN SOME ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE MINI WAREHOUSE THAT EXCEED WHAT THE TOWN'S STANDARDS ARE FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE, STATING ALL STORAGE UNITS SHALL BE FULLY ENCLOSED WITHIN BUILDINGS, NO OUTDOOR STORAGE OF VEHICLES, BOATS, RVS, OR EQUIPMENT PERMITTED, NO TRUCK OR TRAILER RENTAL OPERATIONS SHALL BE PERMITTED.
THIS IS WHERE THEY HAD TAKEN OUT THE POSSIBILITY OF IT BEING AMENDED IN THE FUTURE.
CUSTOMER ACCESS THROUGH ELECTRONIC GATES SHALL BE LIMITED TO 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.
AGAIN, THEY TOOK OUT SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW SOME MORE FLEXIBILITY THERE.
THAT TIME CAN CHANGE. WE CAN CHANGE THAT TIME IF WE WANT.
THE USE SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER CONDITIONS SET FORTH IN THIS ORDINANCE.
NO OTHER SUPS WOULD BE ALLOWED.
AND THEN TEMPORARY USES, ASPHALT, CONCRETE BATCH PLANTS, BUILDING MATERIAL YARD AND CONSTRUCTION OFFICE AND FIELD OFFICE TEMPORARY.
THOSE ARE JUST USES ASSOCIATED WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SOME SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS FOR THE MINI WAREHOUSE THAT THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED WITH THIS APPLICATION.
ALL BUILDING ELEVATIONS SHALL COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN PLAN WITH THE EXCEPTIONS LISTED IN THIS ORDINANCE.
ROLL-UP DOORS SHALL BE ORIENTED AWAY FROM PUBLIC VIEW AND SUBSTANTIALLY SCREENED FROM ADJACENT STREETS AND RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
DOORS VISIBLE THROUGH ARCHITECTURAL GLAZING ARE INTEGRATED INTO BUILDING FACADES SHALL BE PERMITTED PROVIDED SUCH DOORS ARE TREATED IN A MANNER THAT MAINTAINS CONSISTENCY WITH THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN INTENT.
LIKE ON THE CORNERS, I THINK THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY THAT YOU COULD SEE SOME OF THE DOORS OF SOMEONE ACCESSING A UNIT LIKE THROUGH THOSE WINDOW PANELS.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT'S TRYING TO SPEAK TO.
BUILDING FACADE SHALL INCLUDE ARTICULATION THROUGH OFFSETS, PILASTERS, DECORATIVE BANDING OR CHANGES IN MATERIAL TEXTURE COLOR.
ROOFTOP MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT SHALL BE COMPLETELY SCREENED FROM VIEW.
ALL EXTERIOR LIGHTING SHALL BE FULL CUT-OFF FIXTURES.
UNPAINTED METAL, GALVANIZED METAL OR METAL SUBJECT TO RUSTING SHALL NOT BE USED.
ALL EXPOSED METAL SHALL HAVE A FACTORY APPLIED FINISH.
EXCEPTION DECORATIVE LASER-CUT STEEL MURAL PANELS MAY UTILIZE WEATHERIZING STEEL, CORDON STEEL OR POWDER-COATED STEEL FINISHES AS APPROVED WITH FINAL ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.
AND THEN THIS IS A NEW STANDARD THEY WROTE IN.
ELEVATOR SHAFTS AND ASSOCIATED ENCLOSURES EXTENDING ABOVE THE PRIMARY ROOF LEVEL SHALL BE PERMITTED AND SHALL NOT REQUIRE PARAPET SCREENING PROVIDED SUCH ENCLOSURES ARE CLAD IN MATERIALS CONSISTENT WITH THE BUILDING'S EXTERIOR FINISHES.
INCREASING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER FROM 5 FEET TO 23 1/2 FEET.
INCLUDE 9 MITIGATION TREES, 10 COMPATIBILITY BUFFER TREES, 8 ARE REQUIRED, AND 23 ADDITIONAL SMALLER EVERGREEN TREES.
THE BUFFER CAN INCLUDE THE DUMPSTER AREA AND ADDITIONAL CONCRETE AREAS AS SHOWN ON THE CONCEPT PLANS.
THE DUMPSTER SCREENING IS STILL MEETING THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS.
OUR INCREASED MINIMUM SCREENING WALL FROM 6 FEET TO 8 FEET.
OUR NORMAL REQUIREMENT IS A 6-FOOT MASONRY WALL.
THEY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO 8 FEET EITHER THROUGH A 2-FOOT RETAINING WALL PLUS 6-FOOT MASONRY OR AN 8-FOOT MASONRY WALL DEPENDING ON HOW THEY FIND THE GRADE TO BE BETWEEN THE TWO.
REMOVAL OF THE NON-RESIDENTIAL AMENITY AREA.
THEY'RE NO LONGER SEPARATING IT INTO TWO BUILDINGS, SO THEY'RE TAKING OUT THAT AMENITY IN BETWEEN THE TWO.
ALTER THE ENHANCED SCREENING OF DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE TO MATCH CURRENT STANDARDS.
REMOVE THE WESTERN OPEN CROSS ACCESS TO THE RESIDENTIAL X LOT.
SO THAT'S, AGAIN, THAT'S ALREADY AN EXISTED DRIVEWAY THAT'S POURED, AND SO THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT TO IT BUT MAKE IT EMERGENCY ACCESS ONLY SO IT WOULD NOT BE JUST AN OPEN DRIVEWAY.
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STORIES INCLUDING ANY BASEMENT AND SHALL NOT EXCEED A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 23 FEET 7 INCHES AS MEASURED FROM THE AVERAGE FINISHED GRADE AT THE BUILDING FOUNDATION TO THE HIGHEST POINT OF THE ROOF STRUCTURE.AND THEN JUST FOR CLEANUP PURPOSES, UPDATING REFERENCES WITHIN THE PD STANDARDS FROM RETAIL TO NON-RESIDENTIAL.
SO, AGAIN, HERE'S THAT CONCEPT PLAN.
IN CASE, AFTER WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THESE STANDARDS, YOU WANT TO REVIEW ANY OF THOSE DETAILS.
HERE'S THE PARKING SPACES IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL SPACE, ANOTHER FIVE SPACES BEHIND THE BUILDING.
THAT'S WHERE THE LOADING AREAS ARE.
ARE PUTTING IN THE SIDEWALK ALONG FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
THEY ARE IDENTIFYING AN AREA WHERE THEY WILL DEDICATE AN EASEMENT TO THE TOWN FOR A FUTURE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND SIGN, KIND OF AN ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN.
AND HERE ARE THOSE ELEVATIONS AGAIN.
MATERIALS USED COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, UTILIZING STONE AND STUCCO MAINLY.
SO, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ZONING FROM PD 120 WITH SINGLE-FAMILY DISTRICT 5 AND R2 USES TO SF5 AND COMMERCIAL DISTRICT 1 USES.
IT'S MODIFYING THE CONCEPT PLANS, ELEVATIONS, AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WITH CERTAIN MODIFICATIONS.
WE'VE DISCUSSED EXCEPTIONS AND WAIVERS.
THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.
YEAH, SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENTS TONIGHT, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR COMMENTS.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
I'M O'NEILL GRAY, DALLAS, TEXAS.
I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS OUR PROJECT.
I'M GOING TO GET STARTED IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO, LEXAN DID A WONDERFUL JOB.
I THINK SHE COVERED MOST OF MY THING HERE, SO I MIGHT FLIP THROUGH A FEW THINGS QUICKLY.
BUT AS WE ALL KNOW, THIS IS THE PROPERTY LOCATION, 100-150 FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
HE'S BEEN DOING IT FOR 30 YEARS.
THIS IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER, SELF-STORAGE.
I FEEL LIKE I DON'T HOPEFULLY THIS WORKS THIS TIME, BUT WE'LL SEE.
THIS IS KIND OF MY VISION OF WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE AS IT KIND OF GOES FROM DAY TO NIGHT.
WE'RE GOING TO BACKLIGHT THOSE MURALS.
I WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT HERE.
I UNDERSTAND THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
SO, WHEN WE WERE DESIGNING THIS PROJECT, WE MADE A LOT OF THINGS TO TRY TO I MEAN, I'VE NEVER DONE ART MURALS ON A SELF-STORAGE.
OUR LANDSCAPING, IT'S I WOULDN'T SAY OVER THE TOP, BUT WE'VE FOCUSED ON LANDSCAPING MORE THAN I'VE EVER DONE IN SELF-STORAGE.
WE'RE GOING TO DEDICATE THE FRONT 20-BY-20 SECTION FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND SIGN.
EVERY STEP IN OUR DESIGN PROCESS HAS TAKEN THAT IN MIND, AND IT'S ALSO TAKEN KNOWING THAT WE HAD THE ORCHARD FLOCK RESIDENTIAL BEHIND US TO TRY TO MAKE THIS PROJECT WORK WITH EVERYBODY.
I THINK WE'VE ALL SEEN THAT VIDEO.
JUST ANOTHER KIND OF THIS AI RENDERING JUST KIND OF GETS YOU A FEEL.
I FEEL LIKE IT DID A REALLY GOOD JOB JUST KIND OF SHOWING THE LANDSCAPING.
AS LEXAN WAS SAYING, SO A MAJORITY OF THE MIDDLE WINDOWS, IT'S A SPANDREL GLASS, HOPEFULLY I'M SAYING THAT CORRECTLY.
SO, IT'S ACTUALLY JUST A FAKE GLASS PRODUCT.
SO, BEHIND IT WILL BE A WALL, BUT IT JUST REALLY GIVES THE BUILDING A CLASS A OFFICE MEDICAL FEEL.
IT REALLY TAKES AWAY THE SELF-STORAGE.
SO, AGAIN, I THINK I KIND OF COVERED THIS.
WE SPECIALIZE IN TEXAS AND DABBLING IN FLORIDA NOW.
I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT SLIDE.
SO, WHEN WE CAME IN FROM P&Z AND WHAT CHANGES WE MADE FROM NOW UNTIL THEN.
SO, WHEN WE ORIGINALLY CAME INTO PLANNING AND ZONING, WE WERE ASKING FOR A 100-FOOT VARIANCE.
TODAY, WE'RE ASKING FOR A 58-FOOT VARIANCE.
AND HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THAT? SO, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY OUR BUILDING WAS 32 FEET.
SO, THE TOP OF THE PARAPETS ARE ACTUALLY 30 FEET INSTEAD OF 32.
AND, AGAIN, THE PARAPETS RUN ON THE SOUTH, EAST, AND WEST SIDE.
THE NORTH SIDE, THEY'RE SMALL PARAPETS.
BUT THE TOP OF IT, I THINK, IS 21 FEET 6 INCHES ON THOSE IN THE REAR ON THE NORTH SIDE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.
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AND I GUESS, YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT HERE.SO, WE BROUGHT THEM DOWN FROM 27 FEET 8 INCHES TO 21 FEET 6 INCHES.
AND WE ACCOMPLISHED THAT BY MOVING THE AC CONDENSING UNITS FROM THE ROOF DOWN TO THE FLOOR.
AS LEXAN SAID, WE ARE GOING TO SCREEN THOSE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THOSE ARE YOUR TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL AC UNITS.
THEY'RE NOT INDUSTRIAL CHILLERS.
THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING.
AND THEY GENERALLY RUN ON ZONES.
SO, THE WHOLE PROPERTY IS ON DIFFERENT ZONES.
SO, I'D BE SURPRISED HOW LONG IT'S TIME.
BUT I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT.
HOW MANY UNITS ARE THERE? PROBABLY ABOUT 700.
IT MIGHT ADJUST A LITTLE BIT AS WE GET THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY INVOLVED.
AREA UNITS? OH, SORRY, MY BAD.
SO, THERE'S 12 ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THERE'S 12 ON THE WEST SIDE.
I WOULDN'T PROBABLY WASTE MY TIME COMING IF IT'S 700 UNITS.
SO, ON THE ROOF LINE IN THE REAR, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THIS KIND OF A LITTLE BIT MORE IN CLARITY WHEN WE GET TO THE RENDERINGS.
BUT WE DROPPED IT FROM 22 FEET 2 INCHES TO 19 FEET 6 INCHES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IT'S A 12% REDUCTION.
YOU KNOW, OUR BIGGEST ONE, I THINK THE VARIANCE REQUIRED WENT FROM 100 TO 58 FEET.
I'VE ALSO WATCHED THAT P&Z VIDEO MULTIPLE TIMES.
I ALWAYS KIND OF WANT TO HIT ON SOME ITEMS I THINK WERE CONCERNS IN THOSE AND JUST KIND OF ADDRESS THEM SO WE CAN JUST KIND OF CLARIFY.
AND I GUESS I SHOULD HAVE WE ALSO MOVED THE GATE BACK ON THE WEST SIDE.
SO, INSTEAD OF IT GOING NEAR THE RESIDENTIAL, WE MOVED IT FARTHER BACK SO IT'S LESS INTRUSIVE.
I SPENT MORE TIME RESEARCHING GATES RECENTLY.
I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO ENSURE THAT THE GATE OPERATION IS AS QUIET AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, I WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
I'M NOT GOING TO GET THERE AND, YOU KNOW, DO A CHEAP GATE BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW.
SO, WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT A GATE SYSTEM THAT IS QUIET.
HVAC, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY ADDRESSED THAT.
THE RESIDENTIAL GRADE UNITS, THEY USUALLY RUN NOT ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
CONSTRUCTION, WE'RE GOING TO WHILE WE'RE ON THE SCREEN SORRY, I KNOW THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
YOU HAVE A SETBACK OF 100 FEET, BUT YOU REVISED THAT TO 58 FEET.
I THOUGHT SOMEWHERE WHEN I WATCHED P&Z, YOU HAD IT AT, LIKE, 20 FEET.
SO, ORIGINALLY WHEN WE CAME IN OKAY.
AM I LOOKING AT IT WRONG? OKAY.
IF YOU GET ANY MORE QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST STOP ME.
I'LL TRY TO ANSWER THEM CORRECTLY THIS TIME.
CONSTRUCTION PHASE, YOU KNOW, ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO CAUSE DUST, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK WITH, I MEAN, TWO VERY LARGE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY DO.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE EVERY PRECAUTION POSSIBLE TO MINIMIZE IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, WE ALSO QUESTION ABOUT THE DIRT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY DONE THE GEOTECH.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT DIRT MORE THAN YOU KNOW, VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE DIRT.
STORMWATER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALREADY OUR CIVIL ENGINEER IS HERE AS WELL, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR HIM, BUT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT TO THE DETENTION POND A FEW TIMES.
WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE TOWN.
IT'S ALREADY SET UP TO HANDLE OUR WATER RUNOFF.
SORRY, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH ALL MY ITEMS. I THINK THAT KIND OF COVERS IT, THIS ONE.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING HERE IS A BOUTIQUE CLASS A SELF-STORAGE, MAXIMUM 30 FEET.
OPERATING HOURS, AGAIN, ARE MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY, 930 TO THESE ARE OFFICE HOURS, SORRY TO CLARIFY.
SATURDAY, 9 A.M. TO 5.30, AND SUNDAY WILL BE CLOSED.
GATE HOURS ARE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK, 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.
SECURITY, SO WE HAVE MULTIPLE CAMERAS.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOMEBODY ON SITE SIX DAYS A WEEK, SOMETIMES EVEN TWO PEOPLE ON SITE.
AND I GUESS WE'LL GO OVER THAT LATER, BUT, YOU KNOW, ALSO IN THE REAR, IT'S FULLY ENCLOSED.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN 8-FOOT BRICK WALL, AND THEN IT'S ALL GOING TO BE ENCLOSED IN THE REAR.
ANYBODY THAT GOES BACK THERE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE KEYPAD ACCESS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO KNOW WHO'S BACK THERE AND HAVE THEM ON CAMERA AS WELL.
I THINK WE KIND OF COVERED THIS.
HOPEFULLY WE'VE BEEN FULLY TRANSPARENT DURING THIS WHOLE THING.
JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
I THINK WE'VE KIND OF ALREADY GONE THROUGH THIS, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT USES, WHAT COULD GO THERE NOW.
YOU KNOW, I HEARD A COMMENT BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, CELL STORAGE IS GOING TO TAKE TOO LONG, AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE LONGER THAN OTHER USES.
YOU KNOW, I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO OUR CONTRACTOR.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 11 TO 12 MONTHS ON THIS PROJECT.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY QUICKER THAN MOST OTHER ITEMS THAT MIGHT GO IN HERE.
SO HOPEFULLY IT HAS LESS IMPLICATION
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ON THE NEIGHBORS RIGHT THERE.AGAIN, THEY'LL BE SCREENED, THE RESIDENTIAL NORMAL TIME UNITS, AND OVER HERE.
WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE A GATE OVER HERE JUST TO LIMIT THE CROSS ACCESS.
SO WHEN YOU SAID THERE WAS GOING TO BE 12 UNITS, YOU MEANT 12 UNITS ON TWO DIFFERENT SIDES.
YEAH, SO 12 OVER HERE AND THEN 12 OVER HERE.
SO GOING THROUGH WHAT'S APPROVED AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, CURRENTLY WE'VE DESIGNED THE PROJECT WITH A 23.5-FOOT COMPATIBILITY BUFFER.
WHAT'S APPROVED RIGHT NOW IS 5 FEET.
SO IN ESSENCE, YOU CAN HAVE PARKING SPOTS 5 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.
WE BROUGHT IT BACK TO 23.5, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A PARKING SPOT.
THAT'S YOUR FIRE LANE, SO PEOPLE ARE NOT GOING TO BE PARKING ON THAT SIDE MOST LIKELY.
WHAT'S APPROVED RIGHT NOW, I THINK, IS 146.
I THINK THIS IS A BIG ITEM AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, WHAT'S PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THE EAST SIDE, IT'S A 20-FOOT SETBACK.
SO FROM THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE BUILDING, IT'S APPROVED AT 20 FEET.
WE'RE BRINGING IT FROM 20 FEET TO 60 FEET.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE GIVING AN ADDITIONAL 40-FOOT BUFFER FOR SOMETHING THAT'S ALREADY VERY CLOSELY SIMILAR IN HEIGHT.
SO WE DROPPED OUR HEIGHT DOWN TO 30 FEET.
I THINK THE LARGEST BUILDING THERE IS 34 FEET, 4 INCHES, 3 EIGHTHS, MAYBE 34 FEET, 11 INCHES FOR THE OTHER ONE AS WELL.
YEAH, BUILDING SETBACK 60, AND I THINK IT'S 72.16 ON THE OTHER ONE.
IT JUST KIND OF SHOWS WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING EARLIER.
SO YOU SEE HERE IT'S A 20-FOOT SETBACK.
WHAT'S APPROVED, I HAVE A 60-FOOT.
AND AGAIN, SO YOU SEE THE PARKING UP ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
THIS WILL BE A GREEN SPACE WITH TREES, AND WE'LL GO OVER THE LANDSCAPING MOMENTARILY.
I'VE NEVER SEEN THIS MANY PLANS TO SELL STORAGE, SO I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT.
I KNOW LEXAN ALREADY INCLUDED THIS, BUT I THINK THIS REALLY EMPHASIZES THE THOUGHT AND JUST KIND OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECIES THAT WE HAVE GOING INTO THIS PROJECT.
COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, PLEASE? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
MR. MAYOR, COULD YOU JUST SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SCREENING WITH THE LANDSCAPING TO THE WEST AND TO THE NORTH, SO WHAT THE RESIDENTIAL WILL SEE? WILL IT BE WALLS? WILL IT BE IN ADDITION TO THE LANDSCAPE, OR HOW WILL THAT BE ENVISIONED? ABSOLUTELY.
SO ON THIS SIDE, JUST TO CLARIFY, SO WE HAVE AN 8-FOOT FENCE.
YOU KNOW WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED IS 6 FOOT.
WE UPPED IT ANOTHER 2 FEET TO PROVIDE A WE'RE GOING TO MATCH THE SAME TYPE OF FENCE THAT'S ALREADY THERE ON THE LITTLE ORCHARD THE BEST WE CAN.
THE REQUIREMENT, I THINK, IS 4-INCH CALIBER TREES AT TIME OF PLANTING.
AND IT KIND OF GOES ALL THE WAY AROUND.
WE PICKED THEM SPECIFICALLY FOR THEIR GROWTH.
THEY'RE LIKE THE FASTEST GROWING TREES IN TEXAS.
AND I KNOW THE TOWN WILL REQUIRE US.
WE'RE, OF COURSE, GOING TO PUT A DRIP LINE IN, SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE SUCCESSFUL, HOPEFULLY.
DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES.
AND YOU SAID FENCE, BUT I THINK YOU MEANT WALL, MASONRY WALL.
IT'S GOING TO BE 8-FOOT BRICK WALL.
I DID THIS, AND IT MADE SENSE IN MY HEAD.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT MAKES SENSE HERE, BUT HOPEFULLY.
SO I JUST KIND OF CROSS-CHECKED THE LINES.
THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY APPROVED.
IT'S WHERE THE ROOF LINE STARTS.
SO, YEAH, MY ROOF LINE'S HIGHER.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT HERE, WHICH IS THE TOP OF THE ACTUAL ROOF, SINCE THIS IS A AND HERE'S MINE, SO IT'S ACTUALLY HIGHER.
I THINK IT KIND OF SHOWS THAT AS WELL.
I MEAN, THE HEIGHT IS VERY SIMILAR.
AND THIS BUILDING'S ACTUALLY 34 FEET TALL, AND MINE'S 30 WITH THE POP-UPS.
SO YOU MENTIONED TWO DIFFERENT HEIGHTS, BECAUSE IF YOU GO A FEW SLIDES BACK, IT SAYS 30 FEET.
BUT IN THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS AND SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES, IT SAID 23 FEET 7 INCHES.
SO JUST CLARIFYING THAT, SO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET'S 30 FEET TALL.
OKAY, SO THE TOP OF THE PARAPET.
THIS IS NOT NORMALLY PER WHAT LEXAN SAID, WHERE WE MEASURE TWO FOR A MAXIMUM HEIGHT ANYWAY.
WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR 26 FEET ON A ONE-STORY AS THE MAXIMUM.
IS THAT RIGHT, LEXAN? I THINK I WROTE DOWN THAT IN THE CURRENT ZONING FOR A ONE-STORY BUILDING, UP TO 26 FEET HEIGHT WOULD BE APPROVED.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT 26 FEET IS THE MAXIMUM STANDARD.
I THINK JUST WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT OTHER BUILDING, IT SAID IT WAS 26 FEET TO THAT TOP, NOT INCLUDING THE TOWER ELEMENTS.
SO YOU COULD DO YOUR ONE-STORY BUILDING UP TO 35 FEET.
WE HAVE THE 35-FOOT HEIGHT MAXIMUM.
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IN OUR CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AREAS, THERE'S TALLER AND MIXED-USE AREAS.BUT MOST OF THE REST OF THE TOWN, IT'S THREE STORIES OR 35 FEET.
SO THIS WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY LESS THAN THAT.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD.
I GUESS TYING INTO THAT, THE MEASUREMENT TO GRADE INSTEAD OF THE ROAD.
I'M HAPPY YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.
SO I WANT TO CLARIFY KIND OF MY THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT.
SO WHEN I'M READING THE CODE, IT SAYS STARTING BASE POINT, AVERAGE ELEVATION OF THE FINISHED GRADE AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
AND THEN I'M KIND OF LIKE, WHERE'S THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING? BECAUSE IF I'M LOOKING AT MY GRADING PLAN, THIS IS WHAT KIND OF SCARES ME.
YOU GO TO THE PD, AND THEN I DON'T WANT TO GET DOWN THE ROAD, AND BE LIKE, WELL, WE'VE GOT A PROBLEM.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT OUR GRADING PLAN HERE ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, AND AGAIN, STEVE'S HERE IF YOU'VE GOT ANY FULL CIVIL QUESTIONS.
I'M LOOKING AT AN ELEVATION OF 565 FEET.
AND THEN IF I LOOK IN THE MIDDLE OF MY PROPERTY, WE'VE GOT 569 FEET.
AND THEN IF I GO OVER EVEN MORE, IT'S DIFFERENT.
SO I'M LIKE, WHERE ARE WE COUNTING THE BASE FROM? SO I'M NOT TRYING TO GET ANYTHING BY ANYBODY.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE IT SO I CAN BUILD 30 FEET.
I DON'T WANT TO GET THERE, AND THEN WE'RE STANDING ON THIS SIDE, AND I'M MISSING FOUR FEET, OR I'M STANDING ON THIS SIDE.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT.
HOPEFULLY THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, IT'S NOT A TRAFFIC BUSINESS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES I'VE BEEN UP HERE, BUT EVERY TIME I TAKE GERAULT AND I PASS THOSE TWO CELL STORES, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN MORE THAN TWO CARS THERE AT THE SAME TIME, AND I KNOW THEY'RE DOING VERY WELL.
IT'S NOT A TYPE OF BUSINESS WHERE PEOPLE COME EVERY DAY TO CHECK THEIR STUFF.
I REALLY ESTIMATE 35 TO 40 CARS A DAY AT THIS PROPERTY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY A DATA POINT FROM ONE OF OUR OTHER PROPERTIES, 4TH CENTRAL.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THIS PROBABLY ONE HAS MORE ACTIVITY BECAUSE IT'S GOT ABOUT 147 OUTSIDE DRIVE-UP UNITS, AND WE TEND TO SEE, LIKE, CONTRACTORS GENERALLY USE THAT, SO THEY GO ON A DAILY BASIS.
I'D BE VERY SURPRISED IF WE GET MORE THAN 35, 40 CARS A DAY AT THIS PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL INTERNAL UNITS.
YOU KNOW, ALEXA WENT OVER THIS.
THIS IS MY SOUTH RENDERINGS, AND, YES, SO THESE ARE SPANDREL GLASS, SO IN ESSENCE THEY'LL BE BEHIND A WALL, NOT REAL, AND THEN MY INTENTION WAS, YES, TO HAVE THESE SEE-THROUGH.
IT'S IN ESSENCE ADVERTISING THE OTHER CELL STORAGE.
I'VE GOT SIX IN THE FRONT, TWO ON THE EAST, TWO ON THE WEST, AND I THINK IT'S 15 WATTS BACKLIT PER PD, AND WE CAN PUT A FEW OF THEM, TOO, JUST TO KIND OF EVEN OUT THE BRIGHTNESS, AND WE'LL HAVE A FULL CUTOFF, AND, OF COURSE, WORK WITH TOWN STAFF ON THAT.
SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE MADE SOME LARGE CHANGES, I WANT TO SAY.
SO WE DROPPED THIS, AND THIS IS WHY I'M TALKING ABOUT ROOF LINES.
I THINK THE TOTAL WIDTH OF OUR BUILDING IS ABOUT 135 FEET, SO IF YOU TAKE 19 FEET, 6 INCHES HERE AND YOU BRING IT UP TO THE TOP OF OUR ROOF, 23 FEET, 7 INCHES, YOU HAVE A REALLY SLOW GRADE, SO I THINK THAT KIND OF HELPS, LIKE, LESSEN THE IMPACT VISUAL BECAUSE, IN ESSENCE, YOU GET ABOUT A 4-FOOT GRADE CHANGE ON 135 FEET, SO IT REALLY, IT'S VERY, IT'S EASY.
LET'S SEE, SORRY, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I COVER EVERYTHING ON THIS ONE.
AND, YOU KNOW, LEXAN SAID THE ELEVATOR PITS RIGHT HERE, WE'RE GOING TO COVER THOSE UP, SOMETHING TO KIND OF MATCH WHAT THE PROPERTY LOOKS LIKE, SO IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE AN ELEVATOR, YOU KNOW, THING EXTENDING OUT THE BUILDING.
HERE'S OUR EAST AND WEST RENDERINGS.
YOU KNOW, LINE OF SIGHT, JUST DROPPING THAT PARAPET MADE A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE.
MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, PER EDC, I THINK IT'S 80 PERCENT MINIMUM.
I'VE GOT A PHYSICAL ONE, BUT IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AUSTIN STONE AND BRICK AND STUCCO.
WILDFLOWER, AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE INCLUDED IN THE PROJECT WITH THE INTENTION, KNOWING THAT IS THE ENTRANCE OF FLOWER MOUND.
I WENT DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE OF KIND OF HOW FLOWER MOUND STARTED, WHICH PROBABLY SHOULD HAVE BEEN PROBABLY EASIER FOR ME TO FIGURE OUT WITH FLOWER MOUND.
SO I WANTED TO DO SOMETHING THAT KIND OF SHOWS FLOWER MOUND.
I THINK CORDON STEEL, LET IT KIND OF BRONZE OUT AND BACKLIGHT IT, SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK BEAUTIFUL IN THE EVENING.
WHY MORE SELF-STORAGE? YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THIS IS AN UNDERSERVED MARKET.
SO MY DATA LITERALLY JUST GOT UPDATED, I GUESS, YESTERDAY WITH THE NEW CENSUS DATA.
WHEN I LOOKED AT IT LAST, WHEN WE STARTED BACK IN MAY, I GUESS, ON THIS PROJECT, IT WAS 6.4.
SO THERE'S A DEMAND HERE THAT'S NOT BEING MET.
AND FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT, I MEAN, IT'S A GREAT SPOT.
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THIS KIND OF SHOWS BACK HERE.YOU'VE GOT CUBESMART RIGHT HERE.
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE OTHER ONE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT ADVANTAGE AND I THINK MORNINGSTAR OVER HERE.
SO, I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT A QUADRANT RIGHT HERE WITH PEOPLE THAT NEED SELF-STORAGE, AND WE CAN PROVIDE THAT TO THEM HERE.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE PROPERTY MANAGERS ON THE PROPERTY IF WE GET THIS OPPORTUNITY.
THEY'RE THE NUMBER ONE THIRD-PARTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN THE COUNTRY.
I THINK THEY HAVE 4,600 STORES.
THEY'RE THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN WITH THEM 10-PLUS YEARS, AND JUST NOTHING BUT AMAZING, PHENOMENAL THINGS TO SAY ABOUT THEM.
AND I KIND OF WANT TO BACK UP ON THAT AS WELL.
I THINK ANOTHER BENEFIT TO HAVING US HERE COMPARED TO ANOTHER TENANT IS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A MANAGER THERE SIX DAYS A WEEK.
IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM, YOU CAN CALL THE MANAGER.
IF THERE'S A TRASH PROBLEM, YOU HAVE A MANAGER THERE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GENERALLY FIND THAT IN THE RETAIL.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX DIFFERENT TENANTS.
WHO DO YOU GO COMPLAIN AT? OR IF YOU HAVE AN OFFICE, I MEAN, THE OFFICE IS GOING TO BE SO SMALL, I'D BE SURPRISED IF THERE'S ON-SITE MANAGEMENT.
WE HAVE TO HAVE ON-SITE MANAGEMENT.
AND I BET THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, I DON'T KNOW, PROBABLY TWO.
SO, I MEAN, THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET IT CLEANED.
IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF OUR PROPERTIES, I MEAN, THEY'RE PHENOMENALLY MAINTAINED.
AND I JUST WANT TO KIND OF END UP ON THIS.
IF WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THIS, MY NUMBER IS ALWAYS STILL GOING TO BE ON.
I WANT TO KEEP CONSTANT COMMUNICATION DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
I'M ALWAYS GOING TO BE AN OPEN BOOK, AND I PROMISE YOU I WILL DO EVERYTHING I CAN TO MINIMIZE THE IMPACT.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
OKAY. COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO, BUT WE CAN BRING YOU BACK UP AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, SO STICK AROUND, OF COURSE.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF COMMENTS.
CAN I ASK ONE QUESTION? THANK YOU.
YOU ALREADY ANSWERED MY QUESTION ABOUT THE MEASUREMENT METHOD, BUT I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR LEXAN.
I'M NOT SURE WHY I DIDN'T REALLY NOTICE BEFORE, BUT WHEN I SAW THE RENDERINGS, THE WORD STORAGE, IS THAT OUT OF OUR STANDARD? IS THAT SOMEWHAT TALLER THAN WHAT WE NORMALLY HAVE? MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU'RE MEETING OUR SIGN STANDARDS EXCEPT FOR THE MURALS.
THAT'S CORRECT, AND WE'VE SPOKEN TO TOWN OFFICIALS.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST THE MURALS, THE STORAGE WARDS? IF YOU ALL APPROVED THIS TONIGHT, NOTHING WITHIN THIS TEXT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EXCEED THE TOWN STANDARDS FOR SIGNAGE FOR ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE MURALS.
OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO WE'LL START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
I DO HAVE A LOT OF COMMENT CARDS.
THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, SO I WILL JUST KIND OF BREAK THIS DOWN ON SUPPORT AND OPPOSITION.
I HAVE 21 COMMENT CARDS THAT ARE IN SUPPORT OF THIS AND THREE THAT ARE NOT IN SUPPORT THAT DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
I FELT LIKE I GOT ALMOST AS MANY E-MAILS ON THIS AS WE DID ON THE HINDU TEMPLE, BUT NOT QUITE AS MANY.
I LOOKED AT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.
SO I DIDN'T RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM BECAUSE I FIGURED A LOT OF YOU WOULD BE HERE TONIGHT.
39 WERE IN SUPPORT, AND I HAD FOUR THAT WERE NOT IN SUPPORT.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE HAD SOME PEOPLE AT THE P&Z MEETING THAT I NOTED, BUT THEY'RE PROBABLY HERE TONIGHT, I THINK.
WE DO HAVE, LIKE I SAID, QUITE A FEW COMMENT CARDS, SO I AM GOING TO REDUCE THE TIME TO TWO MINUTES.
WE NORMALLY HAVE THREE MINUTES, BUT BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COMMENT, I DO WANT YOU TO HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND SAY WHAT YOU NEED TO SAY.
I DO FEEL LIKE WITHIN TWO MINUTES YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET YOUR POINT ACROSS PRETTY WELL, AND WE'LL TAKE NOTE OF THAT.
AND WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE WHO ARE TAKING DONATED TIME, SO YOU CAN TAKE DONATED TIME.
I WILL START WITH GARY KNOLL, AND HE HAS TWO OTHER PEOPLE.
IF YOU HAVE DONATED TIME, KEEP IN MIND YOU HAVE TO BE IN THE AUDIENCE IF YOU'RE DONATING YOUR TIME.
PAULETTE KNOLL AND JOHN DOUGLAS IS DONATING TIME TO GARY KNOLL.
GARY KNOLL, ARE YOU HERE? OKAY, DO YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD?
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YOU'LL START WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.SO YOU ACTUALLY HAVE SIX MINUTES.
NOW, I KNOW YOU PREPARED FOR NINE MINUTES, SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS TO DONATE THEIR TIME TO YOU, THEY CAN.
YOU CAN DO IT IN SIX? THE SLIDES HAVE BEEN COVERED ALREADY.
DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS? TOP CORNER.
I LIVE AT 123 FREESHIRE DRIVE.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN ORCHARD FLOWER FOR EIGHT YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN A FLOWER MOUND RESIDENT FOR 21 YEARS.
WHEN I RETIRED, MY WIFE AND I DECIDED WE WOULD RETIRE HERE.
SO SOME OF WHAT I'VE HAD IN MY SHORT PRESENTATION WE'VE ALREADY COVERED.
WE'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE, BUT I HIGHLIGHTED THREE RETAIL AREAS.
SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT, THE BIG ONE, THAT'S THE PINES.
THAT'S KROGER, STARBUCKS, JAKE'S, ACROSS THE STREET, CVS.
ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER, MEDICAL, NAIL SALON, RESTAURANTS.
THAT'S A LOT OF RETAIL RIGHT THERE.
AS WE HEAD EAST, WILLOW RIDGE ESTATES, THAT CORNER, THAT'S TEXACO GAS STATION, A CONVENIENCE STORE.
I THINK THERE'S A DONUT SHOP IN THERE.
AND A COUPLE OF OTHER DOWN TO THE EAST, SOME NEW RETAIL THAT WAS BUILT PROBABLY TWO YEARS AGO, A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
BUT WE HAVE GUITARS AND GROWLERS, A COFFEE SHOP THAT JUST OPENED.
AND THEN THE SMALL BOX, WHICH WOULD BE TO THE RIGHT OF OUR DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S H2O, CHRISTIAN BROTHERS.
AND THERE WAS A DRY CLEANER IN THAT BUILDING THAT'S CURRENTLY VACANT.
AND MY POINT OF THE SLIDE IS WE HAVE A LOT OF RETAIL.
IN MY OPINION, WE DON'T NEED MORE RETAIL ON THAT CORNER.
AND I THINK OUR BOARD TALKED TO THESE RESIDENTS AND MYSELF INCLUDED ON THE BLUE DOT.
AND MS. MAYER, YOU ALREADY RESPONDED TONIGHT OF HOW MANY POSITIVE VERSUS UNSUPPORTIVE COMMENTS.
WE'VE SEEN THIS, BUT I DECIDED TO PUT THE FOOTPRINT RIGHT OVER IT SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE.
IT'S BEEN SHOWN, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE FOOTPRINT AS IT RELATES TO OUR DEVELOPMENT.
AND I ASKED CHAT THAT QUESTION, WHAT IS IT GOING TO DO TO PROPERTY VALUES? THERE'S SOME NEGATIVE PERCEPTIONS, LIGHTS, SECURITIES, COMING AND GOINGS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO SOME POTENTIALLY POSITIVE FACTORS.
AND IT'S REALLY INFLUENCED BY THE DESIGN, THE LANDSCAPE, BUFFER SCREENING, ET CETERA.
THIS FACILITY, ACCORDING TO CHAT, SHOULD HAVE VERY LITTLE IMPACT.
A WELL-PLANNED, WELL-SCREENED, SELF-STORAGE FACILITY IS UNLIKELY TO SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY VALUES.
THIS WAS A CONCERN AT THE PNC MEETING WAS PROPERTY VALUES.
AND I USE CHATGTP BECAUSE IT HAS A VAST DATABASE, AND I'M NOT A REAL ESTATE EXPERT.
AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT CHATGTP SAID THIS WOULD HAPPEN OR COULD HAPPEN.
MY LOCATION, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO SCREENING THE FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
FLOWER MOUND ROAD IS SIX LANES.
SIX LANES OF TRAFFIC, ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS, 58 TO 65 DECIBELS.
THE BUILDING AND THE FENCE TOGETHER IS IN THE 40 TO 50 RANGE.
SO WE HAVE A 50 TO 20 REDUCTION IN DECIBELS IN NOISE.
IT MAKES IT MUCH QUIETER FOR ME BECAUSE I WILL LIVE BEHIND THE BUILDING, THE PROPOSED BUILDING, AND I WON'T HAVE AS MUCH FLOWER MOUND TRAFFIC NOISE TO DEAL WITH.
CHAT MADE A COMPARISON TO SELF-STORAGE OFFICE RETAIL AND ONLY AN EIGHT-FOOT WALL BASED ON NOISE.
THIS IS, AGAIN, CHAT, BOTTOM LINE, TWO-STORY COMMERCIAL BUILDING COMBINED WITH AN EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL IS ONE OF THE MOST EFFECTIVE NON-HIGHWAY NOISE MITIGATION STRATEGIES AVAILABLE.
BUT THERE'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T BEEN TALKED ABOUT, AND THAT'S OUR AIRCRAFT.
AS YOU CAN HEAR, WE LIVE DIRECTLY
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UNDER THE FLIGHT PATH OF 17C, BUSIEST RUNWAY AT DFW, AND THE PLANES COME IN IN THE MORNING EVERY THREE MINUTES AT ANYWHERE FROM 2,000 TO 02,100 FEET.70 TO 90 DECIBELS ON A 737, AN A320, A 787, 777, THEY'RE IN THAT DECIBEL RANGE.
430 IS ABOUT THE FIRST PLANE THAT ARRIVES.
WHEN YOU HAVE A CONVERSATION OUTSIDE, YOU HAVE TO STOP TO LET THE PLANE PASS.
SO WHEN THERE'S A CONCERN ABOUT MAYBE AN AIR CONDITIONER NOISE OR A CAR ENTERING OR EXITING, THERE'S ALMOST OVER 300 ARRIVALS ON 17C EVERY DAY.
THAT PERSON WILL KIND OF HAVE TO TIME IT IN BETWEEN PLANES IN ORDER TO HEAR IT PAST THE EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL.
THIS WAS COVERED, AND GREAT JOB.
I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS GOING TO BE COVERED AGAIN.
BUT THIS IS JUST A COMPARISON FROM THE PD-120 TO WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS.
IS ANWAR AJANI HERE? I DIDN'T ASK.
OKAY, YOU ALL ARE DONATING TIME.
NOW, AGAIN, YOU WERE AWARE THAT YOU HAD THREE MINUTES, BUT NOW YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES.
DO YOU WANT ANYBODY ELSE? DO YOU NEED EXTRA TIME? SEE IF I HAVE EXTRA.
YOU CAN GET SOMEBODY TO DONATE TIME.
WE DIDN'T TURN IN FOR EXTRA TIME WITH TRACY.
SO SOMEBODY ELSE? I HAD LIKE SIX, ACTUALLY.
YOU HAD SIX MINUTES? NO, I HAD SIX PEOPLE DONATE TIME.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE FORMS, THE WHITE ONES WHERE THEY DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK, AT THE VERY TOP THEY DID SAY HE HAS THREE EXTRA ONES THAT SAID THAT THEY WANTED TO DONATE TIME, BUT THEY THOUGHT THAT HE HAD ENOUGH.
AND SO I JUST MARKED THROUGH IT.
WHO IS TAKING THAT? WHO'S GIVING YOU TIME THEN? WHO GAVE ME THEIR SLIP TIMES? CAROLYN FROCKENBACH? CAROLYN WHO? OKAY.
CAN YOU DO THAT? CAN YOU DO YOURS IN ABOUT TEN MINUTES? YES.
THE REASON I WANT TO TELL YOU FOR THE TIME THAT I'M ASKING FOR IS BECAUSE I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA, SO I'M REALLY TALKING ABOUT FOR BOTH SIDES, IT'S NOT LIKE ONE ARGUMENT OR THE OTHER ARGUMENT.
SO THAT'S WHY I FELT THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR THE TIME.
I'LL TRY TO DO IT EVEN FASTER.
I'LL GIVE YOU TEN MINUTES MAX.
I LIVE AT 118 LEATRICE DRIVE IN THE ORCHARD FLOWER COMMUNITY.
MY WIFE KELLY AND I HAVE LIVED THERE NOW FOR SIX AND A HALF YEARS.
WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HOME, WE WERE AWARE OF THE TWO VACANT LOTS THAT WERE ZONED COMMERCIAL TO SOUTH END OF THE PROPERTY.
OUR HOME IS ALSO LOCATED WITHIN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE OF CHARCOAL STORAGE PROJECT.
CURRENTLY I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE HOA AND HAVE BEEN SINCE WE TOOK IT OVER FROM THE DEVELOPER, SO A LITTLE OVER FIVE YEARS.
THE REASON I'M BRINGING THAT UP AND SHARE THAT INFORMATION IS BECAUSE I WANT TO START OUR PRESENTATION WITH, I WAS HERE FOR THE 22 SELECTION OF THIS PROPERTY THAT WE WERE APPROACHED ABOUT.
WHEN THEY CAME TO US, THEY SENT US OUT NOTICES, AND AT THAT POINT 17 HOMES WERE GIVEN THAT, AND AT THAT TIME WE IMMEDIATELY CALLED A MEETING WITH THOSE 17 AND SAT DOWN AND SHOWED THEM THE PLAN AND WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED.
AT THAT POINT WE LOOKED AND WE DID THE PROS AND CONS.
WE ACTUALLY TAPED AND LAID OUT THE PROPERTY THAT WAS GOING TO BE PUT IN THERE BACK IN 22.
EVERYBODY WAS PRETTY MAD AT ME BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT 100 DEGREES OUT THERE, BUT WE SPENT ABOUT AN HOUR OUTSIDE.
BOTTOM LINE OF IT IS WE DID LOOK AT THE PROS AND CONS, AND FROM
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THAT WE DETERMINED THAT WE DID WANT TO HAVE A HELP IN SELECTION OF WHAT'S BEING PUT OUT THERE.WE ALL BOUGHT, WE ALL KNEW THAT SOMETHING WAS GOING TO BE THERE EVENTUALLY.
IT'S NOT GOING TO REMAIN EMPTY.
SO WE, TOO, ALSO NEED A BUFFER FOR HIGHWAY 3040 AND OLD ORCHARD.
WITH THAT IN MIND, WE DECIDED WE WOULD GO FOR THIS AND APPROVE WHAT WAS BEING PUT IN THE PD THAT DAY.
MADAM MAYOR, I WANT TO MENTION THAT YOU DID SAY SOMETHING AND ASKED ABOUT A 20-FOOT SETBACK.
BACK THEN AT THAT TIME, THE PD HAD APPROVED A 20-FOOT SETBACK ON THE WEST SIDE OF OUR PROPERTY FOR THAT DAYCARE CENTER.
THE PEOPLE WHO WERE APPLYING IN 22 WERE ASKING ALSO FOR THAT EXCEPTION TO BE LEFT IN THE PROJECT.
SO AT THIS POINT, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE HAD TO CONFRONT WAS THERE'S THREE HOMES ON THAT SIDE THAT WOULD BE 20 FOOT AWAY INSTEAD OF 60 FOOT LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.
AGAIN, WE SAID WE'RE AT LEAST STILL GOING TO GET A BUFFER, WE'RE STILL GOING TO GET A BUILDING OUT THERE, AND WE'LL HAVE A HAND IN IT.
SO AT THAT POINT, WE CAME BACK, GAVE OUR APPROVAL THAT WE WERE GOING TO COMPLY, AND WE WOULD LIVE WITH THE 20 FOOT ON THAT SIDE.
SO WITH THIS PROJECTION, WITH THE NEW CHARCOAL STORAGE PLAN, THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO GAIN 40 FEET WITH THE 60 FOOT IF IT'S GRANTED THERE, BECAUSE THE ENTIRE AREA WOULD BE A 60 FOOT SETBACK.
AFTER WE DID THE APPROVAL AND ALL THAT, AND WE LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT WAS THE STANDARD, THE PROJECT WENT SOUTH.
THE BUILDER COULDN'T DO ANYTHING.
WE HAD COVID HIT, FINANCES, BOTTOM LINE, NOTHING DEVELOPED, AND SO HERE WE ARE TONIGHT, FOUR YEARS LATER, NOTHING BUILT.
NO BUFFERS, NOTHING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP US WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING.
ALONG COMES CHARCOAL STORAGE IN APRIL, AND PER THE RECOMMENDATION OF PZ TOWN, THEY TOLD THEM BEFORE YOU FILE THIS THING, WHY DON'T YOU GO DOWN AND TALK TO THE PEOPLE AT THE HOA AND SEE HOW THEIR FEELINGS ARE ABOUT IT.
THEY MADE A COMMITMENT TO COME DOWN THERE.
O'NEILL AND HIS FATHER, THEY CAME DOWN.
WE VISITED, AND FOR THE LAST TEN MONTHS, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM REGULARLY.
THEY MADE PRESENTATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY ON THREE OR FOUR OCCASIONS.
ALSO IN TURN TO THAT, THEY CAME OUT NUMEROUS TIMES AND MET WITH JUST CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD PROBLEMS OR CONCERNS, AND THEY DID ALL THIS IN THEIR EFFORTS TO SHOW THAT THEY WANT TO BECOME A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND PARTNER TO US.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT THEY'VE DONE.
BESIDES THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT THEY HELD, THEY ESTABLISHED A WEBSITE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS.
THEY COULD GO ON AND SEE THE PROGRESS OF THIS PROJECT AS IT WAS GOING DOWN THROUGH THE CITY.
THEY COULD SEE EVERYTHING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AGAIN, THEY MENTIONED ABOUT THE ENGINEERS.
WHEN WE WERE HELPING VERIFY THAT THE WATER TO OUR RETENTION POND WAS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE IT, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND CAME OUT.
THEIR ENGINEERS AND THEIR PERSONNEL WERE RIGHT THERE ALONGSIDE OF OUR PEOPLE TO VERIFY THAT THAT WAS GOING TO WORK.
SO THEY'VE SHOWED AN EXHIBIT TO US THAT THEY WANT TO BE A PARTNER IN OUR RELATIONSHIP.
GOING AFTER THAT, THE CEILING POINT TO ME AND TO THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WAS THIS.
AFTER THE P&Z MEETING IN WHICH THEY WERE BASICALLY TURNED DOWN, I KNOW A LOT OF COMPANIES OUT THERE IN THIS WORLD WOULD TURN THEIR TAIL AND GO HOME AND CALL IT QUITS.
THE NEXT DAY THEY WERE BACK DOWN HERE AT P&Z.
THEY WENT AND TALKED TO SOME OF THE MEMBERS THERE AND ASKED WHAT WE COULD DO OR THEY COULD DO TO HAVE THAT STILL BE A POSSIBLE CONSIDERATION BEFORE IT WENT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
YOU SAW THAT THEY DID SUBMIT A MAJOR CHANGE.
THEY WENT OUT AND THEY PRODUCED AN ACTUAL DOCUMENT FOR ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS AND COMPLAINTS OR CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE SAID THEY WERE WITH THIS PROPERTY.
WE POSTED IT ON OUR TOWN SITE.
THEY TURNED IT INTO P&Z AND THEY ADDRESSED EVERY SINGLE CONCERN THAT CAME UP AT THAT MEETING.
THAT, AGAIN, TO ME, SHOWED TOTAL COMMITMENT TO WANTING TO MAKE, AND YOU HEARD HIM SAY IT HIMSELF, I WANT TO PLEASE EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S BEEN HIS BATTLE CRY AND THEIR BATTLE CRY ALL ALONG.
WHEN YOU HAVE A, BY THE WAY, HERE'S THE BROCHURE THAT THEY DID.
IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN PAGES LONG IN RESPONSE, AND IT IS ON FILE.
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BUT AS EVERYBODY IS WELL AWARE IN THIS WHOLE ROOM, WHEN YOU HAVE 98 HOMES IN A COMMUNITY, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET 100% OF THE PEOPLE TO AGREE ALL THE TIME.THE WINTER STORM HELPED PROVIDE SOME PART OF HELP FOR THE BOARD.
DURING THAT TIME, I WANTED TO VERIFY THAT THE COMMUNITY WAS STILL NOT DIVIDED TO A POINT WHERE ONLY HALF WANTED IT, HALF DIDN'T, OR WHATEVER IT WAS.
SO FROM JANUARY 23RD THROUGH LITERALLY LAST NIGHT WHEN I ACTUALLY GOT TO TALK TO THE LAST NUMBER 70 PROPERTY OWNER, I EITHER SAW IN PERSON OR TALKED ON PHONE WITH 70 OF THE 98 HOMEOWNERS.
AND FROM THAT GROUP, THAT'S WHERE YOU GOT YOUR 30-SOME MESSAGES, BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM SAID, I CAN'T COME, SO I'M SENDING IT IN.
BUT OUT OF THE 70 HOMEOWNERS THAT I EITHER TALKED IN PERSON OR ONLINE, 58 WANTED AND SUPPORTED THE CHARCOAL STORAGE PROGRAM.
WE STILL HAVE THE 15 PEOPLE UP FRONT, THE 17 PEOPLE THAT NEEDED THE BUFFER ZONE.
THOSE 15, THE SAME 15, VOTED TO HAVE IT.
THE TWO THAT DID NOT AND DISSENTED STILL DISSENTED.
SO THE BOTTOM LINE OF IT IS THE HOMEOWNERS ARE UNIFIED IN THE 15 AND IN THE SETBACK OF THE 17 BUFFER ZONE HOMES.
IN BOTH TIMES WHEN I'M TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE, OUR COMMUNITY IS PRETTY TIGHT.
THEY SAID, WHAT ARE THE PEOPLE WANTING TO DO THAT ARE THE CLOSEST ONES UP THERE? BECAUSE IF YOU TAKE AWAY THE TWO ACRES THAT HE'S GOING TO BUILD THAT BUILDING ON AND THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE, THAT LEAVES US 20 ACRES.
AND PAST THAT 20 ACRES, 80% OF THESE HOMES CAN'T EVEN, DO NOT HAVE A LINE OF SIGHT OF THAT BUILDING, AND THAT'S SIGNIFICANT.
AND MOST OF THEM SAID, IT'S NOT GOING TO BOTHER ME.
SO WITH THE INPUT OF THE 58 HOMEOWNERS, I WANT TO SAY THIS TO THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THE HOA BOARD OF ORCHARD FLOWER, THE THREE BOARD MEMBERS, ARE TOTALLY IN UNANIMOUS SUPPORT.
AND WITH THE MAJORITY OF 58 OF THE 70 HOMES TO VOTE TO SUPPORT IT, WE ASK THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL CONSIDER ALLOWING CHARCOAL STORAGE TO BUILD THIS FACILITY FOR US.
AND I THINK THAT CUTS BACK QUITE A FEW OF THE PEOPLE.
WELL, WE WANT TO LISTEN TO EVERYBODY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYBODY HEARD, AND I THINK WE CAN DO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT LESS TIME.
SO WE DO WANT TO HEAR EVERYBODY.
I ATTEMPTED TO EDIT THIS AS BEST POSSIBLE SITTING OVER THERE.
I HAD IT TIMED PERFECTLY TO THREE MINUTES.
MY NAME IS ROB PAUL, AND I LIVE AT 205 CHEROKEE PATH HERE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
I'VE LIVED HERE FOR NEARLY 25 YEARS, AND MY HOME IS A QUARTER MILE AWAY FROM THIS SITE AS THE CROW FLIES.
IT IS ALSO IN THE PATH OF NEARLY EVERY SINGLE TRIP ME AND MY FAMILY TAKE WITHIN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
THE ZONING AND AERIAL MAP IN THE AGENDA PACKAGE SHOWS THE USES SURROUNDING THIS SITE.
IT SHOWS 83 HOMES, A TOWN PARK, A COMMUNITY AMENITY CENTER, AN HTO, AND A DENTIST OFFICE.
NOW, I BET IF WE ALL TOOK OUT A PIECE OF PAPER AND SAID, WHAT FIVE USES DO YOU THINK SHOULD BE APPROPRIATELY BUILT NEXT TO A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY, I'M NOT SURE ANY OF THOSE WOULD BE ON ANY OF OUR PIECES OF PAPER.
A QUICK REVIEW OF THE DEVELOPERS' WEBSITE SHOWS THAT THE EXISTING PROPERTIES ON THEIR WEBSITE, THIS WILL NOT ONLY BE THEIR LARGEST PROJECT, BUT IT WILL BE THE ONLY ONE NOT BORDERING A MAJOR HIGHWAY, AIRPORT, FLOODPLAIN, RAILROAD, OR HEAVY COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USE.
IT WILL REALLY BE THE ONLY ONE PLUCKED INTO THE MIDDLE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE DEVELOPERS STATED A 42% REDUCTION IN WHAT HAS BEEN REQUESTED.
PUT IT IN GREEN LIKE IT'S A POSITIVE.
AS THOUGH CONCESSIONS ARE BEING MADE, THE REALITY IS SIMPLE.
IT'S STILL HALF THE DISTANCE THAT IT SHOULD BE BASED ON OUR RULES.
WHEN PRESSED WHY THAT EXCEPTION IS REQUIRED, THE RESPONSE IS THE PROJECT IS NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE WITHOUT THAT MODIFICATION.
QUITE FRANKLY, NOT OUR PROBLEM.
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AND THE APPLICANT SHOULD WORK TO FIND A MORE APPROPRIATE AND REASONABLE LOCATION.THIS PROJECT IS NEEDED TO MEET DEMAND.
THE APPLICANT'S OWN LOI LISTS MARKET DEMAND AS THE VERY FIRST BULLET POINT UNDER THE REASON FOR REZONING REQUEST.
CONSUMER DEMAND IS NOT A LAND USE CRITERIA.
IT'S A FINANCIAL METRIC USED TO ANALYZE PROJECTS AND FIGURE OUT IF THEY'RE PROFITABLE.
KEEP IN MIND THIS DECISION IS FOREVER.
ONCE YOU APPROVE A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY HERE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD LIVES WITH IT PERMANENTLY.
THE ABSENCE OF A BETTER IDEA TODAY DOES NOT MEAN A BETTER IDEA WILL NEVER COME.
PART OF WHAT WE EXPECT FROM YOU AS OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IS TO PROTECT THE LONG-TERM CHARACTER OF THIS AREA FOR THE 90,000 RESIDENTS, NOT THE 50 OR THE 3 OR THE 98 OR EVEN JUST FOR ME.
SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, PROXIMITY TO HOMES, DAILY VISIBILITY, INCOMPATIBILITY, I ASK YOU TO POLITELY DECLINE THIS REQUEST.
AND TO THE DEVELOPER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY OUT LOUD, I SPEND A LOT OF TIME AT THESE PODIUMS AS A LIVING, FOR A LIVING.
THIS IS NOT MEANT TO BE PERSONAL.
THEY ARE EXTREMELY PROFESSIONAL AND NICE.
I JUST DON'T WANT IT TO BE TAKEN PERSONALLY.
I HAVE TO STAND UP HERE AND DO THIS A LOT OF TIMES AS WELL.
I'M A RESIDENT AND I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IT.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO STICK WITH THEIR TWO MINUTES, THOUGH.
FORGIVE ME IF I GET THE NAMES WRONG.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MADAM MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
THIS IS MY HUSBAND, JOHN RICHARD.
JOHN AND I RESIDE AT 1913 PROTEA DRIVE, DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED CHARCOAL STORAGE FACILITY.
AS A 19-AND-A-HALF-YEAR RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND, UPON DECIDING TO MOVE TO A RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, ARCHES FLOWER WAS THE ONLY CHOICE FOR US, DUE TO ITS PRIVACY, QUIET ENVIRONMENT, AND MINIMAL INTRUSION FROM OUTSIDE TRAFFIC.
THESE QUALITIES WERE ESSENTIAL TO THE LIFESTYLE AND PEACE OF MIND THAT OUR COMMUNITY CHERISHES.
AFTER REVIEWING THE POTENTIAL USE FOR THE SITE, IT IS CLEAR TO ME AND JOHN THAT THE CHARCOAL STORAGE FACILITY REPRESENTS THE LEAST INTRUSIVE OPTION IN TERMS OF NOISE, VEHICLE, AND PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, AND OVERALL DISRUPTION.
IN CONVERSATIONS WITH MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS THROUGHOUT THE 90-AT-HOME COMMUNITY, THE MAJORITY EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THEY RECOGNIZE THAT THE FACILITY WILL MAINTAIN THE COMMUNITY'S CHARACTER BY PRESERVING GREEN SPACE AND AVOIDING HIGH-TRAFFIC COMMERCIAL USES THAT COULD NEGATIVELY IMPACT SAFETY AND TRANQUILITY.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN ALSO INCORPORATES LANDSCAPING AND ARCHITECTURAL ELEMENTS THAT COMPLEMENT THE AESTHETICS OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HELPING TO MAINTAIN PROPERTY VALUES AND VISUAL HARMONY.
ALSO, THE STORAGE FACILITY IS EXPECTED TO GENERATE MINIMAL NOISE AND LIGHT POLLUTION, WHICH ARE COMMON CONCERNS AMONG THE RESIDENTS.
THE MANAGEMENT'S COMMITMENT TO MAINTAINING SECURITY AND CLEANLINESS WILL ALSO FURTHER ENSURE THAT THE FACILITY REMAINS AN ASSET RATHER THAN A NUISANCE TO OUR COMMUNITY.
GIVEN THESE FACTORS, I STRONGLY SUPPORT THE CHARCOAL STORAGE FACILITY PROJECT.
IT BALANCES THE NEEDS OF THE BROADER COMMUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT WITH THE PRESERVATION OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF ARCHES FLOWER HAVE COME TO VALUE.
THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FOR LISTENING TO ME.
ALSO, TOO, I WAS OUT THERE WITH MARK ON THAT SATURDAY IN AUGUST IN THE HEAT, SO THANK YOU, MARK, FOR THAT. TAKE IT OFF.
MADAM MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL STAFF, THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND SINCE 1993, SO WE'RE 33-YEAR RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND.
WE'VE HAD THREE HOMES IN FLOWER MOUND, ALL WITHIN A ONE-MILE RADIUS.
WE CAN'T SEEM TO ESCAPE THAT CORNER OF FLOWER MOUND. WE LOVE IT.
WE MOVED INTO ORCHARD FLOWER, BUILT OUR HOME THERE FIVE YEARS AGO THIS MONTH, AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE ORCHARD FLOWER.
WE'VE KNOWN THAT THAT CORNER WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED, AND I'VE ALWAYS HAD CONCERN ABOUT THE RETAIL ZONING, KNOWING THAT RETAIL CAN MEAN DONUT SHOPS, AND WE GET UP EARLY AND WALK AND WORK OUT.
THE THOUGHT OF SMELLING DONUTS AT 3 IN THE MORNING IS FAIRLY REPULSIVE TO ME.
DRY CLEANERS, ALL SORTS OF THINGS CAN FALL INTO THAT RETAIL CATEGORY.
SO I WAS THRILLED TO MEET THE CHARCO TEAM AND O'NEILL, AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT THEY WERE SO INVOLVED WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND ASKING FOR WHAT WE WANTED.
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TO DO THAT.THEY'VE BEEN SO FORTHCOMING AND ACCOMMODATING WITH THEIR REQUESTS.
I THINK THE BUILDING THAT THEY HAVE DESIGNED IS BEAUTIFUL.
I THINK IT WILL BE A FABULOUS REPRESENTATION OF FLOWER MOUND AS YOU ENTER FLOWER MOUND.
I NEVER EVEN THOUGHT OF HAVING ARTWORK ON THE OUTSIDE OF A STORAGE FACILITY.
AGAIN, I THINK THEY'VE BUILT SOMETHING THAT WILL BE BEAUTIFUL AND SOMETHING WE'RE PROUD OF FOR A LOT OF YEARS.
AGAIN, I REALLY SUPPORT THE CHARCO TEAM BASED ON THE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE DESIGNING, HOW INVOLVED THEY ARE, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE A FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS.
THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING TO BUY AND TRADE.
IT'S SOMETHING THEY'RE LOOKING TO OWN AND MAINTAIN, AND I THINK IT WILL BE A BEAUTIFUL ADDITION TO FLOWER MOUND.
I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT PERSON SO YOU'RE READY.
AARON STASEL, AND IF YOU'LL JUST COME TO THIS FRONT SEAT, THE NEXT PERSON, AND THEN I'LL KEEP DOING THAT.
BEFORE WE STARTED, THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THE 700 UNITS.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO TELL MY WIFE THAT OUR HOUSE IS NOW A STORAGE UNIT.
LIVED THERE FOR TWO YEARS, LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND FOR 21.
MOVED 19 TIMES IN MY CAREER WITH JOHN DEERE, SO I'VE SEEN MANY SUBDIVISIONS, GOOD, BAD, INDIFFERENT.
GONE DOWNHILL, GONE UPHILL, SO GET AN IDEA OF SOME OF MY BACKGROUND.
WHEN WE FIRST WENT TO THE FIRST PRESENTATION, I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH THE COMPASSION AND WHAT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THEY WEREN'T TRYING TO SELL US A TIMESHARE OR ANYTHING.
THEY WERE LOOKING FOR WHAT WAS GOOD FOR OUR SUBDIVISION AND THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND ALTOGETHER.
NOT BETTER FOR US, BETTER FOR FLOWER MOUND.
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS IMPORTANT.
SO AFTER THEY LEFT, I DID SOME RESEARCH ON THEIR PROPERTIES THAT THEY OWN AND WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW THEY KEPT UP WITH THE FACILITIES AFTER THE FACT AND SAYING, OKAY, WE TOLD YOU THIS, WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS, BUT WE HAVE KEPT UP WITH THAT OVER THE TIME SPAN.
SO I CAME BACK AND TRIED TO DO SOME PROS AND CONS OF GOOD AND BAD.
AND YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT MOST OF THEM, BUT LIVING IN A 55, WE DOWNSIZED IN FLOWER MOUND, AND I THINK WITH THE EXTRA SECURITY, THE LIGHTS, THE WALL, I FEEL SAFER.
I THINK MY WIFE AND I WOULD FEEL SAFER WITH ALL OF THAT.
AND AS WE'RE ALL 55 PLUS, THAT'S IMPORTANT ANYMORE AS WE GO.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHO OWNS THE LAND, BUT SOMEBODY BOUGHT THAT LAND FOR A GREAT ROI RETURN.
THEY WANT TO MAKE MONEY ON THE LAND, AND I DON'T BLAME THEM.
THEIR RETURN ON THEIR INVESTMENT HAS GOT TO BE HIGH, AND SO SOMETHING IS GOING TO GO IN THERE.
AS MUCH AS I LIKE WHATABURGER, STARBUCKS, AND THAT, I DON'T WANT 500 CARS COMING THROUGH OUR SUBDIVISION EVERY DAY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHATABURGERS AND THAT, AND IT'S NOTHING AGAINST THOSE BUSINESSES, BUT THAT WOULD BE MASSIVE PANDEMONIUM UP THERE.
SO THAT MAKES ME THINK OF HOW THEY'RE HANDLING THIS SITUATION.
CAN I LEAVE ONE MORE THOUGHT? ONE MORE THOUGHT REAL QUICK.
IF I WAS MOVING TO FLOWER MOUND, AND THERE WAS A HOUSE FOR SALE, AND I WAS EITHER OUT OF TEXAS COMING AROUND THE THING, HAVING THAT FACILITY WOULD NOT DETER ME FROM BUYING A HOUSE IN FORGE FARM.
AND WE HAVE ERIN STASEL, AND THE NEXT PERSON IS KELLY MOELLER.
I'VE LIVED IN OUR HOUSE THERE FOR FIVE-AND-A-HALF YEARS.
I'VE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND FOR 34 YEARS, SINCE 1991.
I'VE LIVED IN ABOUT A MILE-AND-A-HALF AREA OF THE GERALD FLOWER MOUND ROAD AREA, SO I'VE SEEN A LOT OF CHANGE.
I WAS ERIC'S NEIGHBOR IN SHERWOOD ESTATES FOR QUITE A WHILE.
I LIVE WITHIN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE, AND I'M FOR THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT WILL BE A GREAT THING FOR US.
I SENT AN EMAIL WITH EIGHT REASONS WHY I THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE A GREAT PROJECT, AND I DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH ALL THAT AGAIN.
SO, AGAIN, I'M IN SUPPORT OF THIS.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT THING FOR OUR AREA AND OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S GOING TO PROVIDE SECURITY AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED FOR SOMETHING THAT'S GOING
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TO BE BUILT THERE.OKAY, AFTER KELLY, WE HAVE GRAN WALDRON.
HI, MY NAME IS KELLY MOELLER, AND I LIVE AT 118 LEATRICE.
I DIRECTLY FACE THE EMPTY LOT THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO BUILD ON THE STORAGE CENTER.
I AM ONE OF THE 17 HOMES IN THE 200-IMPACTED BUFFER ZONE, AND I DO SUPPORT.
I'LL SAY THAT UP FRONT, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THE DEVELOPER, O'NEILL, HAS MET WITH US, AS WE SAID, MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN, MULTIPLE TIMES.
I WAS IMPRESSED WITH, AFTER THE DECEMBER 8TH P&Z MEETING, I WAS FOR WHATEVER HE HAD AT THAT MEETING.
WE HAD SOME NEIGHBORS THAT HAD CONCERNS.
HE TOOK THOSE CONCERNS, AND HE MADE ALL THESE CHANGES, AS YOU SEE TONIGHT.
THIS WOULD MAKE MY THIRD HOME, AS AN ADULT THAT I HAVE TO MAKE MY OWN PAYMENTS WITH, THAT I'VE LIVED AROUND A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE NEVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THIS IS ACTUALLY A BETTER COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THE 12 PARKING LOTS.
WE DON'T HAVE 140 PARKING LOTS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE 500 PEOPLE.
I WON'T HAVE A MCDONALD'S OUTSIDE THE BACK OF MY HOUSE WITH THE SPEAKER.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ORDER TODAY? SO I THINK THIS WILL BE A LOW-IMPACT.
IT IS ALSO GOING TO DO A LOT OF THE HELP WITH US MAINTAINING OUR RETENTION POND, HELPING US RETAIN ALL THE, WITH THE RETAINING WALLS WHEN IT GETS BUILT.
SO I AM, AGAIN, IN SUPPORT OF THE BUILDING, AND I HOPE YOU DO CONSIDER IT.
AFTER OREN, WE HAVE DORIS VENTOLINI.
I LIVE AT 1913 HELICONIA DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND.
I WAS THE OWNER OF AN ESTIMATING CONSULTING BUSINESS IN THE CONSTRUCTION FIELD FOR OVER 33 YEARS.
I'VE SEEN THE PRELIMINARY PLANS FOR THE CHARLES STORAGE FACILITY, A THREE-STORY BUILDING.
THE DEVELOPERS ARE REQUESTING A 58-FOOT VARIANCE IN BUILDING CODE SETBACK.
I BELIEVE THE BUILDING CODE SETBACK FOR HOMEOWNERS SHOULD TAKE PRECEDENCE OVER THIS REQUEST.
THIS STORAGE FACILITY IS A WAREHOUSE, 136-FOOT WIDE, 357-FOOT LONG, AND 30-FOOT HIGH.
IT BUILT WILL BE AT THE ENTRY TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND ON FM 3040 AND ADJACENT TO THE ORCHARD FLOWER COMMUNITY IN WHICH I LIVE.
I WILL SEE IT EVERY DAY, A 357-FOOT LONG BUILDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ORCHARD FLOWER COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THIS WILL CAUSE A DECREASE IN MY PROPERTY AS FAR AS IT GOES.
AS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, I DO NOT BELIEVE THIS UNREASONABLE REQUEST FOR THE 58-FOOT SETBACK VARIANCE FROM BUILDING CODE SHOULD BE ALLOWED SIMPLY JUST BECAUSE IT SUITS THE DEVELOPER FOR ECONOMIC NEEDS TO BUILD THIS 679-UNIT STORAGE FACILITY.
IF I LOOK AT THE PLANS ON THIS THING AND I LOOK AT WHAT FLOWER MOUND IS OFFERING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SEE IS BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING ENCROACHING INTO THE SETBACK BY 58 BY 400 FEET.
FINALLY, I REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL OF THE GENERAL CONTRACTORS THAT I'VE DONE BUSINESS WITH IN THE PAST THAT HAVE BUILT PROJECTS IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
THEY ALL SAID THAT FLOWER MOUND HAD STRICT REQUIREMENTS DEDICATED TO THE PROTECTION OF HOMEOWNER RIGHTS WITH REGARD TO COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
I LIVE AT 1905 PROTEA DRIVE IN THE 200-FEET BUFFER FROM THE FUTURE CONSTRUCTION.
AND I AM ACTUALLY IN THE CORNER BETWEEN FLOWER MOUND AND THE BUILDING THAT IS GOING TO BE BUILT.
WHEN I BOUGHT THE HOUSE, THE PROPERTY, I CAME FROM OUT OF STATE, I MEAN FAR AWAY FROM HERE, YOUR SIDE OF TEXAS, AND I HAD NO IDEA WHAT THE LOT WAS ABOUT.
AND THEN I WAS TOLD SOMETHING WOULD BE BUILT IN THE FUTURE.
AND YOU HAVE LISTENED TO ALL THE GOOD ASPECTS.
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I AGREE WITH ALL OF THEM.AND I THINK IT WILL BRING SECURITY.
IT WILL BRING CLEANLINESS AND ATTRACTIVENESS TO THAT CORNER.
AND MR. O'NEILL HAS BEEN VERY TRANSPARENT, VERY OPEN TO LISTEN TO EVERY CONCERN.
HE HAS ANSWERED, PRESENTED CHANGES WHEN WE ASKED FOR THEM.
IT'S GOING TO BE IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, BUT I SUPPORT IT.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PAULA SULIN.
OKAY, MY NAME IS JAMES RICH, OR JIM RICH.
I ALSO SERVE ON THE HOA BOARD.
I'M ONE OF THE THREE DIRECTORS AND HAVE BEEN FOR OVER FIVE YEARS.
I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT SOME OF THE POINTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANTED OUR OWNERS TO BE WELL-INFORMED ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
I THINK WE'VE PROVEN THAT HERE TONIGHT.
THEY ARE WELL-INFORMED ABOUT IT.
WE OBVIOUSLY WANTED THIS EIGHT-FOOT MASONRY WALL.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE THERE, BUT IT'S THERE.
THAT ACCESS ROAD THAT'S BEEN MENTIONED, THAT'S ONLY GOING TO BE USED FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES, THAT'S WHERE WE ALL EXIT THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THE IDEA OF A RETAIL SPACE WITH 500 CARS COMPETING WITH OUR LEAVING THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A VERY BIG ISSUE FOR US AS THE HOA BOARD.
I'VE WORKED IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR A LONG TIME.
I SAW YOUR CHAMBER PRESIDENT HERE.
I SERVED AS THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE PRESIDENT IN BEAUMONT, TEXAS, FOR 15 YEARS.
THIS IS A VERY SPECIAL COMMUNITY TO US.
I DON'T BELIEVE PROPERTY VALUES ARE GOING TO BE IMPACTED.
HOW MANY HOUSES DO YOU THINK WERE SOLD THERE LAST YEAR? THERE'S ONLY BEEN ONE SALE.
IN FIVE YEARS, THERE'S ONLY BEEN MAYBE FIVE TO TEN HOMES THAT HAVE CHANGED HANDS.
SO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, BECAUSE IT'S A VERY UNIQUE RETIREMENT COMMUNITY, SINGLE-STORY, 2,500-SQUARE-FOOT HOMES.
I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE BECAUSE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
IT MIGHT CHANGE IF IT'S A DOLLAR GENERAL, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO CHANGE ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT.
MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO ALL OF US.
MY NAME IS PAULA SOLON, AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR THREE YEARS.
ONE OF MY MAIN CONCERNS ABOUT THIS IS THE ENTRANCE OFF OF OLD ORCHARD.
ACCORDING TO YOUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, THIS STUDY WAS DONE FIVE YEARS AGO.
FIVE YEARS AGO, THE MEDICAL-DENTAL BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET ON THE CORNER WAS NOT THERE.
I HAVE A REAL CONCERN ABOUT THE TRAFFIC THAT GOES UP AND DOWN ORCHARD FLOWER TO THAT INTERSECTION WITH A HUGE BUILDING BEING PROPOSED FOR THAT CORNER.
WHEN THE GENTLEMAN DID THE OVERLAY, I'M LIKE, OH, MY GOSH.
WHY IS HE TRYING TO BUILD A BIG, BIG BUILDING ON SUCH A LITTLE PIECE OF PROPERTY? AND THERE'S MANY PLACES THAT HE COULD CHOOSE TO BUILD THAT BUILDING.
SO, OBVIOUSLY, I'M AGAINST THIS PROPOSAL.
I ALSO DO NOT BELIEVE IT'S THE IMAGE THAT FLOWER MOUND WANTS.
WHEN SOMEBODY'S COMING TOWARDS US ON 3040, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THEY'RE GOING TO SEE OF FLOWER MOUND.
I BOUGHT IN FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE IT WAS A TOWN.
IT WAS A RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT WAS HIGHLY ACCLAIMED.
I'VE LIVED IN IRVING MANY YEARS, AND I SAW THE SAME THING HAPPEN TO WHERE I LIVED.
THE THREAT OF, OH, SOMETHING WORSE COULD BE BUILT THERE.
SO, MY OTHER THING ABOUT, I'LL JUST SUM IT UP.
P&C, TAKE WHAT THEY THOUGHT IN CONSIDERATION.
THAT SETBACK, IT'S HALF OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THE BUILDING'S TOO BIG FOR THE PROPERTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
AND I HOPE YOU WILL TAKE IN CONSIDERATION WHAT P&C HAS RECOMMENDED AND KNOW THAT THIS IS A TOWN, THAT IT'S A RESIDENTIAL TOWN.
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THANK YOU.OKAY, AFTER PAMELA, WE'LL HAVE A 60-FOOT BUFFER, RIGHT? YEAH.
OKAY, I THINK SOME OF THE PEOPLE SPEAKING MAY NOT HAVE ALL THE RIGHT INFORMATION, BUT O'NEILL WILL ADDRESS IT.
OKAY, PAMELA LUCIA, VALHALLA REAL ESTATE.
AND I'M COMING FROM A LITTLE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE HERE BECAUSE I'M WORKING IN BROKERAGE TO LIST THE PROPERTY FOR SALE.
SO, I'M HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU GUYS AND ALSO EVERYBODY FOR AND AGAINST AND GIVE YOU KIND OF AN UPDATE ON THE BROKERAGE SIDE OF WHAT'S GOING ON OVER HERE.
FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I'M ASKING FOR UNANIMOUS APPROVAL FOR THIS PROJECT.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BOUTIQUE AMENITY FOR THIS COMMUNITY.
I'M PROUD OF IT, AND I'D BE PROUD TO HAVE THIS IN MY COMMUNITY IF I STILL LIVED HERE.
IT CAN REALLY ADD TO THE VALUE.
JUST TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN.
I WISH I COULD TURN AROUND AND SAY.
OKAY, SO SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE WELL-FUNDED AND READY TO GO ON A PROJECT THAT'S APPROVED BY RIGHT WITHOUT ANY COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT.
AUTOMOTIVE, TIRES, DOLLAR TREE, A GOODWILL STORE WITH A DROP-OFF, FAST FOOD CHICKEN.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH NO COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT, AND I'M LOOKING AT AN AMAZINGLY BLESSED COMMUNITY THAT HAS AN INCREDIBLE PARTICIPATION, AND I'M SO IMPRESSED WITH EVERYBODY COMING FORWARD, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT THE ENTIRE COUNCIL WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT CARES WHAT'S HAPPENING AND THAT IS IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
SO I THINK ANY VOTE AGAINST IT WOULD BE A VOTE AGAINST YOUR OWN COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME IN HERE TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS.
YES, I THINK A VOTE AGAINST THIS WOULD BE A VOTE AGAINST THE COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT.
AFTER ANGEL WALDRON, WE HAVE KEVIN STADLER.
HI, I'M ANGEL WALDRON OF ORCHARD FLOWER.
I REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
I PREFER TO FLY UNDER THE RADAR, BUT I SAW AN IMAGE OF THIS BUILDING AT A PRESENTATION.
EVERYBODY SAYS THE BUILDER IS SO ACCOMMODATING.
WHY WOULDN'T HE BE ACCOMMODATING? IF I WAS COMING IN A PLACE AND I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMETHING BUILT, I WOULD DEFINITELY BE ACCOMMODATING.
I MEAN, WHO ELSE WOULDN'T BE? THAT'S THE CAPITALIST WAY, SO TAKE THAT FOR WHAT YOU WOULD.
I SAW A PICTURE OF THIS IMAGE, AND I THOUGHT, WOW, I HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE THIS IS GOING TO BE A HUGE BUILDING IN FRONT OF MY PROPERTY.
IT'S NOT MY HOUSE THAT I'M THINKING ABOUT HERE, BUT IT'S MY HOME, AND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE HERE.
ALSO, SOME PEOPLE SAID, OH, THEY DON'T CARE IF THE BUILDING WAS THERE BEFORE.
WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BUILDING INITIALLY, THIS IS THE ORCHARD FLOWER PAMPHLET THAT WAS GIVEN BY GRENADIER HOMES WHO BUILT IT.
IT SAYS HERE, LUXURY PATIO HOMES IN FLOWER MOUND.
IT SAYS EXCLUSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD.
I HAVE NEVER HEARD THOSE WORDS IN CONJUNCTION WITH A STORAGE PROJECT, NEVER.
IF WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT STORAGE, I COULD HAVE MOVED TO LOUISVILLE.
IF I GO DOWN THE ROAD FROM WHERE I AM, THERE ARE TONS OF STORAGE UNITS THERE, SO I'LL BE TRYING TO MAKE FLOWER MOUND LOUISVILLE.
I MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE IN LOUISVILLE.
IF THIS PROJECT IS BUILT COMING FROM THE EAST, I WILL SEE IT, COMING FROM THE WEST, I WILL SEE IT, WALKING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I WILL SEE IT.
I THINK THAT I AND THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND DESERVE MUCH BETTER.
AND FURTHERMORE, I DON'T NEED A BUFFER.
I'M FINE THE WAY IT IS, AND I HOPE THAT YOU VOTE AGAINST IT.
WE HAVE KEVIN, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE HAVE BOB HAYES.
I LIVE AT 170 QUINCE DRIVE, WHICH IS INSIDE OF THE SUBDIVISION.
I AM A PAST BOARD MEMBER AND WAS THE BOARD MEMBER AT THE TIME OF TRANSITION FROM THE DEVELOPER OVER TO HOMEOWNER CONTROL.
I POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF PROPOSALS AND A LOT OF DISCUSSION, AS WAS BROUGHT UP FROM THE BROKERAGE.
I FEEL OF ALL OF THE ONES I HAVE EVER SEEN,
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THIS IS FAR SUPERIOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND FOR THE TOWN OF ANY OF THE ONES THAT ARE OUT THERE.TO ME, THIS IS A VERY SIMPLE DECISION OF WHEN YOU'VE GOT A SUPERIOR SITUATION, YOU TAKE IT, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING TO BE MUCH WORSE.
I ALSO AM VERY HEAVILY INTERESTED IN SECURITY, AND THE FACT OF HAVING A HIGHLY SECURE AREA, EVEN IF IT'S A BIG BUILDING, BUT IT IS TOTALLY SECURE ALL THE WAY AROUND, IS OF A GREAT BENEFIT TO AN OVER 55 COMMUNITY.
RIGHT NOW, ANYBODY CAN HOP THAT FENCE.
THERE ARE NO CAMERAS BACK THERE.
THIS WOULD BE A GREAT BENEFIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK THE APPEARANCE, HOPEFULLY YOU WOULD AGREE, IS SUPERIOR TO VIRTUALLY ANY OTHER STORAGE FACILITY.
IT LOOKS LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.
I WOULD APPRECIATE YOU TAKING THAT ON BOARD.
AFTER MR. HAYES, WE HAVE NICOLE WOODARD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.
I'LL TRY NOT TO TAKE MORE THAN MY TWO MINUTES.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I LIVE IN ORCHARD FLOWER, ONE OF THE ORIGINAL, ONE OF THE FIRST TEN FAMILIES TO MOVE IN THERE, AND IT'S A WONDERFUL, WONDERFUL COMMUNITY.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT MY WIFE AND OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE FOR THIS LOT, AND THE ANSWER IS THAT WE'RE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF THIS PROJECT.
I'D HATE TO BE STANDING HERE BEFORE YOU IN A YEAR OR TWO YEARS TALKING ABOUT A GOODWILL OR A DRIVE-THRU RESTAURANT OR MANY, MANY OTHER, DOLLAR GENERAL, THE NOISE, THE TRASH, THE TRAFFIC, THE SIGHTS, THE SMELLS.
I SAY THAT THIS WOULD BE A WONDERFUL ADDITION TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND I WOULD JUST ASK YOUR SUPPORT TO STAND BEHIND US IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AFTER NICOLE, WE HAVE JOHNNY WALKER.
AGAIN, I LIVE AT 1970 PROTEA DRIVE, SO ASSUMING THAT THIS GETS PASSED OR IF THIS GETS PASSED, I WILL HAVE A DIRECT VIEW OF THIS FROM MY FRONT PORCH, AND I, TOO, AM IN FAVOR OF THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
I WANTED TO ADDRESS THE ONGOING CONCERNS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES, AND CHAT GPT STOLE MY THUNDER.
I'VE BEEN DOING REAL ESTATE FOR 30 YEARS.
I'VE HELPED HUNDREDS OF FAMILIES SELL OVER 1,000 HOMES IN THE METROPLEX, AND EVERYONE ALWAYS WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT WHAT'S THIS GOING TO DO TO MY RESALE VALUE, AND SO THREE THINGS.
ONE IS UNTIL YOU GET READY TO SELL, THIS THEORETICAL VALUE IS IRRELEVANT COMPLETELY.
NUMBER TWO, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT FACTOR INTO THE VALUE OF A HOME, SPECIFICALLY WHETHER IT'S SQUARE FOOTAGE OR GENERAL CONDITION OR LOCATED WITHIN A SUBDIVISION OR FLOOR PLAN FUNCTIONALITY, BACKYARD AMENITIES, PRIVACY.
AND SPECIFICALLY FOR THOSE OF US IN ORCHARD FLOWER, WE'RE ALREADY DEALING WITH THE AIRPORT NOISE, THE NOISE FROM THE ROAD, AND WE HAVE A LIMITED BUYER POOL DUE TO AGE-RELATED DEED RESTRICTIONS.
WE KNEW ALL OF THOSE THINGS WHEN WE BOUGHT INTO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE LOVE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO WHAT REALLY DETERMINES VALUE IS RECENT COMPARABLE SALES.
SEVERAL FOLKS BROUGHT UP NOT MANY HOUSES STILL IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMPETING HOMES AT THAT MOMENT.
SO WITH CONFIDENCE, I CAN SAY THAT MARKET DYNAMICS, SUPPLY AND DEMAND, THAT'S WHAT IMPACTS VALUE, NOT ONE SINGLE VARIABLE.
THAT BEING SAID, A DEFINED USE IS ALMOST ALWAYS BETTER THAN VACANT COMMERCIAL LAND ZONED FOR RETAIL WITH NO TIMELINE AND NO PLAN.
OH, WE HAVE MARTY WATKINS NEXT.
MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO VISIT WITH YOU.
YOU HAVE LOTS OF DETAIL ALREADY PROVIDED ON BOTH SIDES.
BUT IN SUMMARY, I THINK ALMOST EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE IF OUR CHOICES WERE NOT TO HAVE SOMETHING THERE OR TO HAVE CHARCOAL, WE WOULD TAKE WE DON'T WANT ANYTHING.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE IN THE COMMUNITY, I AM JOHNNY WALKER, AND I LIVE AT 110 QUINCY IN THAT COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T HAVE THAT CHOICE BECAUSE WE DON'T OWN THE LAND.
THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THE LAND ARE GOING TO MAKE A PROFIT WHEN THEY SELL IT.
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AT WHAT OUR OPTIONS ARE, SINCE NOT HAVING ANYTHING GO THERE ISN'T AN OPTION THAT WE CONTROL, WE NOW ARE CONTROLLING THIS IF WE APPROVE IT.AND WE HAVE 35 TO 40 BALLPARK DAILY TRIPS, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, HAVING BEEN IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, A HIGHEST USE FOR SOMETHING THAT HAS HIGH CORNER TRAFFIC, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FAST FOOD AT 500 TO 800 VERSUS 35 TO 40 OR CONVENIENCE STORE 300 TO 600.
WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THAT TRAFFIC COMING OUT THE BACK WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO COME OUT THE COMMUNITY THROUGH A GATE THAT HAS TO OPEN AND CLOSE.
WE CAN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE, WHICH IS HTO, WITH ALL OF ITS DRIVE-THRU TRAFFIC.
ADDING MORE RETAIL WOULD REALLY BE SOMETHING WE DON'T WANT.
WE TOTALLY SUPPORT IT AS YOU SUPPORT IT.
WELL, I HAD SEVERAL THINGS TO SAY, BUT I'LL CUT IT SHORT.
I'M GOING TO CALL THE NEXT ONE.
AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ARTHUR STAFFORD NEXT.
OKAY, YOU CAN GO AHEAD, MARTY.
I AM IN THE 200-FOOT RANGE, BUT I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH ANY OF THE PRE-PLANNING.
AND MARK DOES A GREAT JOB IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
HE DID NOT LIVE IN THE 200-FOOT ZONE.
MARK DOES A GREAT JOB IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE MAY HAVE BEEN OUT OF TOWN ON VACATION.
I THINK WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT PRECEDENCE.
AND I NEEDED TO MOVE A HOUSE TO MAKE IT EVEN ON THE BLOCK WITH ALL THE OTHER HOUSES.
AND WE WENT IT ALMOST TAKES AN ACT OF CONGRESS TO GET THINGS CHANGED.
AT ANY RATE, WE WENT WE SEARCHED LONG AND HARD.
AND I FOUND WE FOUND SOME THINGS THAT ALLOWED US TO MOVE THAT HOUSE.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, I THINK RULES ARE SET UP FOR BUILDING SPECS FOR A REASON.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE A PROPERTY, A BUILDING THIS BIG, CHANGING THE RULES SETS PRECEDENCE FOR EVERYTHING YOU BUILD FROM NOW UNTIL KINGDOM COMES.
SO I URGE YOU TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING, SOMETHING THAT'S SINGLE-STORY, SOMETHING THAT COMPLEMENTS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SOMETHING THAT GIVES US THE LOOK AND FEEL WHEN YOU'RE ENTERING OUR COMMUNITY THAT DEPICTS FLOWER MOUND.
BOTTOM LINE, THE BUILDING IS JUST TOO BIG.
AND AT THE EXPENSE OF SETTING A PRECEDENCE OF EVERYTHING THAT YOU BUILD IN THE TOWN FROM NOW ON, IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.
SO MY VOTE IS TO I'M NOT AGAINST HAVING A STORAGE.
BUT MY VOTE IS TO MOVE THE STORAGE TO A WAREHOUSE DISTRICT WHERE IT BELONGS.
THEN WE HAVE SANDRA SANDY BELL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN ORCHARD FLOWER SINCE 2019.
MY HOME IS IN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE.
I'M ALSO OFF OF OLD ORCHARD LANE.
I'VE GOT JUST A COUPLE OF POINTS HERE.
THE ROAD CUT ON OLD ORCHARD THAT WILL GO INTO THIS FACILITY, IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN OR GOING NORTH ON OLD ORCHARD, THAT'S ONLY ONE LANE.
AND IT'S CONTROLLED BY LOUISVILLE.
I'VE ACTUALLY MET WITH THE CITY ENGINEERS OVER THERE.
THEY KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THAT WILL IMMEDIATELY BACK UP TRAFFIC ONTO FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
AND THAT ROAD IS HEAVILY, AT DIFFERENT HOURS OF THE DAY, CONGESTED WITH PEOPLE COMING AND GOING AND THE SCHOOLS THERE.
THAT PROBABLY SHOULD BE AN EMERGENCY EXIT AT ANYTHING IF THIS PROJECT GOES FORWARD.
THE NEGATIVE VIEW SCAPE THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKED ABOUT, I MEAN, THIS IS THE ENTRANCE, A MAJOR ARTERY, INTO THE CITY.
NOW WE'VE GOT THIS LARGE STORAGE UNIT, WHICH COULD GO ANYWHERE WHERE THERE ISN'T A NON-RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
AND IT DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND THEN JUST THE BUILDING CODE WAIVER.
WHY DO WE HAVE CODES IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO GIVE WAIVERS TO PEOPLE? MY LAST THING THAT I'M STILL
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SCRATCHING MY HEAD ON, WHY ARE WE HAVING THIS MEETING TONIGHT WHEN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEMBERS ALL VOTED NEGATIVE, NO, THIS IS NOT GOING? AND NOW WE'RE HERE.FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY WE'RE IN A GREAT COMMUNITY.
ORCHARD FLOWER IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD COMMUNITY.
ALL THE PEOPLE ARE REALLY FRIENDLY.
THAT BEING SAID, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT WHAT'S BEST FOR US.
AND I'M HOPING THAT IT ENDS TONIGHT BECAUSE IT DOES SEEM TO PUT A LITTLE FISSURE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO THAT BEING SAID, I'M 1,000% BEHIND P&Z, WHO VOTED UNANIMOUSLY AGAINST IT.
AND I HOPE THAT YOU GO WITH THEIR DECADES OF WISDOM AND EXPERIENCE.
THE REASON I'M AGAINST IT IS IT'S STILL A 60-FOOT SETBACK, 60 FEET FROM OUR HOUSES.
AND THIS MEANS IT'S A HUGE TWO-STORY WAREHOUSE THAT EVERYONE ON LEATRICE, WHEN THEY COME OUT THEIR HOUSE, THEIR VIEW IS OF A WALL.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S.
SO ALSO IT'S AT THE ENTRANCE OF FLOWER MOUND.
AND I JUST THINK IT'S A NEGATIVE FOR THE WHOLE CITY TO SEE A BIG WAREHOUSE THERE WHEN IT COULD BE SOMETHING REALLY VALUABLE AND NICE.
AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN AND EVERYTHING AS FAR AS A WAREHOUSE GOES.
ANYWAY, I WAS IN PR FOR A LONG TIME.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, WRITE PITCH LETTERS FOR THE LANDOWNER TO BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, LIKE MAYBE HAVE A FIDELITY OFFICE THERE, A SCHWAB OFFICE, A FRANKLIN-TIMBLETON OFFICE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S LOW TRAFFIC AND VERY NICE, OR MAYBE A MEDICAL FACILITY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DOCTOR'S OFFICES THAT LOOK LIKE NICE HOUSES.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN WE HAVE LAURA LANDRY NEXT.
MY WIFE JAN AND I HAVE LIVED IN ORCHARD FLOWER FOR SEVEN YEARS, AND WE'RE IN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE.
WE'RE PROBABLY AMONG THE TEN HOUSES CLOSEST TO THE BUILDING.
WE ARE IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
A LOT OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN SAID ABOUT IT'S THE LEAST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC OVER ANYTHING ELSE THAT COULD PROBABLY BE BUILT THERE, THE LEAST AMOUNT OF NOISE.
IT'S GOING TO CLOSE ABOUT 6 O'CLOCK IN THE EVENING.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY NOISE LATER IN THE EVENING THAT WE MIGHT GET IF WE HAD ANY OTHER KIND OF RETAIL.
SINCE IT'S A SINGLE BUSINESS TENANT, IT WOULD BE A LOT BETTER THAN MULTIPLE TENANTS.
THAT WOULD BE PROBLEMATIC IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS THERE, TRYING TO DEAL WITH MULTIPLE TENANTS.
IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID THAT A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE OF ORCHARD FLOWER IS IN FAVOR OF THIS.
A COUPLE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WERE JUST BROUGHT UP, TRAFFIC GOING NORTH ON OLD ORCHARD BEING A PROBLEM WITH TURNING.
THERE'S ONLY GOING TO BE 30 TO 40 CARS A DAY.
I DON'T SEE TRAFFIC BEING A PROBLEM THERE.
ALSO, SOMEBODY SAID IT'S A HUGE BUILDING.
WELL, IT IS A BIG BUILDING, BUT WE GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOISE FROM FLOWER MOUND ROAD, AND THIS IS GOING TO MITIGATE THE TRAFFIC NOISE FOR US.
AND THEN WE HAVE DAVID WOODARD.
I LIVE AT 150 QUINCE IN ORCHARD FLOWER.
MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE BEEN MARRIED FOR LIKE 50 YEARS.
WE MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND AS MY HUSBAND WAS RETIRING.
WE LOOKED AT OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS.
WE WANTED THE SMALL TOWN FEEL OF FLOWER MOUND.
WE LEFT ARLINGTON BECAUSE IT BEGAN TO CHANGE A LOT.
WE THOUGHT THIS WOULD BE OUR LAST HOUSE.
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NOW I'M NOT QUITE SO SURE ABOUT THAT FOR SEVERAL REASONS.WE'VE BEEN IN FOUR NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAD HOAS, AND THE BOARD PRESENTED IT.
ANYTHING THAT CAME UP IN A TOTALLY NEUTRAL MANNER AND WELCOMED COMMENTS FROM BOTH SIDES, THAT WAS NOT THE CASE WITH THIS.
THE BOARD WAS TOTALLY FOR THIS, AND IF YOU WERE AGAINST IT, I MEAN, PEOPLE HAVE TURNED THEIR HEADS TO US.
IT HAS BEEN VERY DIVISIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S A WAREHOUSE, AND IF YOU JUST SPENT THREE-FOURTHS OF A MILLION DOLLARS BUILDING A RETIREMENT HOME, WOULD YOU WANT A WAREHOUSE BUILT RIGHT IN FRONT OF IT THAT SAYS STORAGE? OKAY, DAVID WOODARD, AND THEN WE HAVE RAY VAUGHN.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I RESIDE AT 1917 PROTEA DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.
I AM ONE OF THE ORCHARD FLOWER RESIDENTS WHOSE HOUSE FALLS WITHIN THE 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE.
IN FACT, MY HOME WILL HAVE A DIRECT VIEW OF THE PROPOSED STORAGE FACILITY.
I WANT THE COUNCIL TO KNOW THAT I AM IN FAVOR OF THE STORAGE FACILITY BEING BUILT.
I SENT MY COMMENTS TO THE COUNCIL LAST WEEK.
HOPEFULLY YOU READ THEM, SO I WON'T BELABOR ALL THE POINTS I MADE IN THAT EMAIL.
THE ONE POINT I DO WANT TO REITERATE TONIGHT IS THAT I HAVE LISTENED TO, RESPECT, AND UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF MY FELLOW NEIGHBORS WHO OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT.
I, TOO, HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE LAND BEING DEVELOPED.
MANY RESIDENTS HAVE TOLD ME IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THE LAND COULD REMAIN VACANT OR KEPT FROM BEING DEVELOPED FOR A WHILE.
SOME HAVE EVEN PROPOSED THAT THE RESIDENTS OF ORCHARD FLOWER BAND TOGETHER AND BUY THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T SEE EITHER OF THOSE OPTIONS AS VIABLE.
SO GIVEN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TONIGHT, I BELIEVE THE STORAGE FACILITY IS THE BEST OPTION WE HAVE GIVEN THE ALTERNATIVES THAT I EXPLORED.
NO RESIDENT OF ORCHARD FLOWER, NOR ANY COUNCIL MEMBER, HAS A CRYSTAL BALL THAT TELLS US WHAT BETTER OPTIONS MAY DEVELOP IN THE FUTURE FOR THE PROPERTY.
MY CONCERN IS THEY COULD BE WORSE.
BUT KNOWING WHAT I KNOW TONIGHT, HAVING RESEARCHED THIS ISSUE, I THINK THE STORAGE FACILITY REPRESENTS ORCHARD FLOWER'S BEST OPTION AT THIS TIME, AND I SUPPORT IT BEING BUILT.
APPLAUSE THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MARTIN BLASEK.
HI, MAYOR MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I ALSO WROTE WHAT I REALLY WANTED TO SAY, AND SO I'M NOT GOING TO TRY TO BELABOR THE POINT.
ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT I REALLY, REALLY WANT TO DRILL HOME IS IT'S THE ONLY OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE THUS FAR AS FAR AS HAVING A SINGLE POINT OF CONTACT.
EVERY SINGLE THING ELSE WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD, WE'RE GOING TO DEAL WITH MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE LANDLORDS, AND ANY ISSUE WE HAVE, WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO POINT THE FINGER LIKE THIS.
WHEN YOU LOOK IT UP, 35, 40, I MEAN, WE COULD WIN THE LOTTERY AND GET A CHICK-FIL-A THERE.
THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC, BECAUSE I LOOKED IT UP, AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 1,500 CARS A DAY AND ABOUT 100 AN HOUR PER PEAK.
THAT WOULD DEFINITELY DESTROY OUR PROPERTY VALUE, NO DOUBT ABOUT IT.
AND THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED.
AND WITHOUT ANY COUNSEL, WE WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TO MEET, AND NONE OF THEM ARE SOMETHING THAT I WANT.
MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR LIKE 20 YEARS, AND SIX YEARS IN FLOWER MOUND.
WE'RE IN A 200-FOOT BUFFER ZONE, AND WE ARE 100% UNDENIABLY FOR THIS PROJECT.
OKAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, HOLD ON.
GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF ORCHARD FLYER FOR EIGHT YEARS.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN THAT EIGHT YEARS' TIME, IT TOOK OUR BUILDER ALMOST FOUR YEARS TO FINISH OUT ALL THE HOMES.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, WE'VE KIND OF LIVED THROUGH THAT, DUST AND NOISE LEVELS AS WELL.
BUT I WISH I COULD PUT A POINT SYSTEM TO ALL THE POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES TO GIVE IT SOME WEIGHT TO EACH FACTOR.
BUT IN THE ESSENCE OF TIME, HERE'S MY NEGATIVE AND POSITIVE POINTS.
SOME OF THE NEGATIVES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE SETBACK.
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THAT CONCERNS ME.ARE WE SITTING IN THE PRESIDENT'S OR NOT, PRECEDENT FOR BUILDING IN THE FUTURE OR NOT? BUT AS WE ALSO STATED, THAT NEGATIVE IS A POSITIVE IN THE WAY OF THE SOUND BARRIER AND SECURITY THAT WE'LL HAVE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE MENTION, AS YOU DRIVE UP, WHAT DO YOU SEE TODAY? WELL, ALL I SEE IS TWO VACANT LOTS THAT ARE MISSING A SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, DEAD TREES, BROKEN LIMBS, TRASH FLOATING AROUND, DRY GRASS THAT COULD, YOU SEE, OR UNCUT SOMETIMES.
AND WHAT WE SEE IN THE FUTURE IS A BEAUTIFULLY DESIGNED BUILDING, AND IT'S GOING TO BE PROFESSIONALLY LANDSCAPED.
SO THAT'S A POSITIVE TO LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.
SO IN SHORT, I THINK, AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO...
THE HOA, IN OUR INTEREST OF MONEY, IS WE'RE GETTING THAT BEAUTIFUL EIGHT-FOOT BRICK WALL THAT'S GOING TO MATCH OUR EXISTING RETAINING WALL.
AND THERE'S GOING TO BE LESS TRAFFIC FOR THE BUSINESS.
AND ANYWAY, IN SUMMARY, I THINK FOR THE TOWN AND FOR OUR ORCHARD FLOWER COMMUNITY, I'M IN FAVOR BECAUSE OF THE POSITIVES OUTWEIGHING THE NEGATIVES.
OK, TAMMY VAUGHN, AND THEN WE HAVE KATHY MCCAGE.
MY NAME IS TAMMY VAUGHN, AND I RESIDE AT 1909 PROTEA DRIVE.
SO THIS FACILITY WILL BE IN MY FRONT YARD, SO LIKE A COUPLE OF MY OTHER NEIGHBORS.
ALSO IN FRONT OF MY FRONT YARD WILL BE THE 12-UNIT AC UNITS AND THE TRASH CAN.
SO MY HUSBAND, HE'S RETIRED 20 YEARS AIR FORCE, AND LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, THIS WAS OUR RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
WE TOO WALK OUR DOG EVERY MORNING AROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
I LIVE AT HOME FULL-TIME, AND MY OFFICE, I CALL IT MY DUNGEON, IS THE FRONT ROOM OF THE HOUSE.
SO THAT IS MY VIEW ALL DAY LONG IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM MY HOUSE IS THAT OPEN LOT.
AND IT WILL BE THAT 8-FOOT WALL WITH THE SOUND BUFFER THAT'S THERE.
I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE AC UNIT BASED ON EVERYTHING THAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE SOUND BARRIER.
I HAVE NO CONCERNS ABOUT THE TRASH CAN.
IT ISN'T COMING FROM A RESTAURANT.
I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE SMELL.
SO IF ANYTHING, THAT WOULD JUST MAKE THE SITUATION WORSE IF THAT OTHER TYPE OF FACILITY WENT IN THERE.
SO I THINK WE'RE PROPOSED WITH A UNIQUE SITUATION.
OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IF WE SET A PRECEDENCE HERE.
IT'S A UNIQUE LOT IN A UNIQUE AREA, AND IT MAY BE AN EXCEPTION IN OUR CASE THAT SOMETHING WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN WITH THAT.
I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THE SETBACK.
THIS IS ACTUALLY FURTHER THAN THE ORIGINAL PROPOSAL.
SO IF ANYTHING, IT IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AWAY FROM MY WINDOW.
MY OFFICE VIEW, IF YOU WANT TO PUT IT THAT WAY.
SO ANYWAYS, I ALSO SUBMITTED A LETTER.
I DID HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL PROS ABOUT THE FACILITY, BUT ALL IN ALL, I'M IN FAVOR OF THE PROJECT.
APPLAUSE OKAY, THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DENNIS MCCAGE.
MY NAME IS KATHY MCCAGE, AND I RESIDE AT 154 QUINCE DRIVE.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND OVER 30 YEARS.
I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS ZONING PROPOSAL ADJACENT TO ORCHARD FLOWER, OUR SENIOR LIVING COMMUNITY.
I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE HISTORY OF THIS PROPERTY A BIT.
IN APRIL OF 2012, A PREVIOUS MAYOR APPROVED AN ORDINANCE CHANGING THE ZONING TO STANDARD RETAIL ADJOINING RESIDENTIAL, AND AT THAT TIME, THE 11 HOMES THAT NOW BACK UP TO THIS SITE DIDN'T EVEN EXIST.
SO THOSE RESIDENTS WEREN'T BEGUN UNTIL AROUND 2018.
SO THERE WERE REALLY NO ONE THERE TO EVALUATE OR RESPOND TO THE DECISION AT THAT TIME.
THE LACK OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION DURING THAT PERIOD REALLY SHOULDN'T BE VIEWED AS AGREEMENT TO CHANGING THAT BACK THEN EVEN, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE THERE LIVING CLOSE ENOUGH TO MAKE THE CONCERNS VOICED.
THE CONCERNS NOW BEING RAISED FROM OUR SENIOR RESIDENTS REALLY DESERVE TO BE HEARD ON THEIR MERITS NOW.
THIS PROPERTY IS A GATEWAY INTO FLOWER MOUND FROM 3040 FOR THOSE TRAVELING WEST, AND FIRST IMPRESSIONS REALLY DO MATTER.
A LARGE SELF-STORAGE FACILITY AT THIS CORNER WOULD DETRACT FROM THE CHARACTER AND THE APPEARANCE OF OUR TOWN.
THE SITE'S ALSO NEAR A BORDER OF THE TOWN OF LEWISVILLE, WHERE ZONING STANDARDS ALLOW MIXED USE AND OFTEN THINGS APPEAR VERY CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
MAYOR MOORE'S JANUARY UPDATE IN THE CROSS TIMBERS GAZETTE REFERENCED THE FISCAL YEAR 2526 PLAN.
RESIDENTS ARE VERY ENCOURAGED TO SEE THAT OBJECTIVE NUMBER THREE IS TO REALLY INCREASE OPEN SPACE,
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PARKLAND, COMMUNITY AMENITIES.THIS LOCATION OFFERS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO ADVANCE THOSE GOALS AT A GATEWAY TO FLOWER MOUND.
IN CLOSING, I RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT COUNCIL DENY THIS ZONING PROPOSAL.
DENNIS MCCAGE, AND THEN WE HAVE RANDY ERICKSON.
I'M DENNIS MCCAGE AT 154 QUINCE DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.
I HAVE A PRIOR TENURE ON PLANNING AND ZONING AS VICE CHAIR FROM THE 1990S.
ESTABLISHING WAREHOUSE USE WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING AT THIS LOCATION, A KEY ENTRY FROM EAST ON FLOWER MOUND ROAD, GIVES A PRECEDENT FOR A WAREHOUSE USE TO BE THE FIRST THING VISIBLE ON ENTRY TO OUR TOWN.
GREAT CARE WAS TAKEN TO DEVELOP THESE SENSITIVE AREAS TO BE RESPECTFUL OF EXISTING DEVELOPMENT, QUALITY OF LIFE, AND TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND PUBLIC IMAGE.
WHILE MUCH HAS BEEN DONE TO AMELIORATE THE MANY PROBLEMS ON THIS PROJECT, AS A NEIGHBOR SAID TO ME, MUCH LIPSTICK HAS BEEN APPLIED.
ENSURING THAT GROWTH DOES NOT OCCUR AT THE EXPENSE OF COMMUNITY CHARACTER OR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS IS CLEARLY STATED IN OUR MASTER PLAN.
THE PROPOSAL CALLS FOR OVER 700 STORAGE UNITS AT OVER 350 FEET LONG.
CHRISTIAN BROTHERS, H20T, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, LOUISVILLE HIGH SCHOOL ARE 01,056 FEET FROM THIS PROPERTY LINE.
MANY OF THESE USERS ACCESS THE FLOWER MOUND-ORCHARD FLOWER INTERSECTION.
THE CHARCO EAST ACCESS IS DIRECTLY OPPOSITE THOSE USERS' EXIT.
MANY HIGH SCHOOLERS USE THIS INTERSECTION ON THEIR WALKS.
THIS PROJECT EXACERBATES A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR OUR YOUNGSTERS.
THE ISSUE IS NOT TO REDUCE THE TRAFFIC COUNT FROM A TO B, BUT RATHER TO MINIMIZE IT.
THIS CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL ZONING DOES NOT.
I HAD MANY OTHERS, BUT I HAVE 10 SECONDS.
LASTLY, WE'RE RUNNING AN ADDITIONAL RISK OF A TAKING LITIGATION, AS DISCUSSED AT PLANNING AND ZONING.
WE HAVE RANDY ERICKSON, AND THEN WE HAVE GIL LANDRY.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.
I RESIDE AT 2004 ANEMONE DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.
I'VE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND SINCE 1995.
ONLY A COUPLE OTHER PEOPLE, IT APPEARS, HAVE LIVED LONGER IN THE TOWN.
MY WIFE AND I CURRENTLY LIVE IN ORCHARD FLOWER SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE TWO-ACRE VACANT LOT IN QUESTION, SINCE 2017.
THE THIRD HOMEOWNER IS IN THERE.
THEY STARTED DEVELOPING THIS AREA IN 2015, I BELIEVE.
I CAN REMEMBER BEFORE ORCHARD FLOWER SUBDIVISION, THERE WAS A GOLF DRIVING RANGE THERE.
I USED TO TAKE MY SON UP THERE.
I DID PRINT OFF A COUPLE PICTURES.
THAT'S THE ENTRANCE TO TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND BACK THEN, IN 2001.
CAN YOU TURN IT AROUND SO THAT THE CAMERA CAN SEE? THE CAMERA CAN'T SEE.
WELL, IT'S KIND OF STILL HARD TO SEE, BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT.
SO IT WAS A GAS STATION, ALSO ON THE CORNER, AND STORAGE FACILITY.
NOT TOO PLEASANT TO LOOK AT, AT THE ENTRANCE.
EVERY 4TH OF JULY, THERE'S NUMEROUS VEHICLES THAT PARK THERE.
VERY FUN TO GO TO, BUT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THEIR NOISE, THEIR TRASH.
NUMEROUS BUSINESSES HAVE TRIED TO GO INTO THIS TWO-ACRE LOT.
THIS IS REALLY THE BEST OPTION.
WE KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN PARKS AFTER DARK.
MY WIFE AND I WELCOME CARCO STORAGE TO FLOWER MOUND.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AND ANYBODY CAN GOOGLE EARTH.
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BEFORE.NOBODY'S TALKED ABOUT A GAS STATION.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ANGELA ABRAM.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE.
THOSE PEOPLE REALLY LISTEN TO US.
AND THAT'S WHY CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE, BECAUSE YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE LISTENED AND WANTED SOME OF THESE CHANGES MADE.
THE REASON I'M SPEAKING, YOU KNOW WHAT'S INTERESTING, IS WHEN I FIRST WALKED IN HERE, WHEN I FIRST SAT DOWN, FIRST LIGHT I SEE, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY I MOVED HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND.
IT'S NOT THE CITY OF ARLINGTON OR THE CITY OF DALLAS OR FORT WORTH.
IT'S THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
YOU GUYS WANT TO CONVEY THAT TYPE OF ATMOSPHERE, A TOWN SETTING.
THAT'S WHY WE DECIDED TO MOVE HERE.
I'VE TALKED TO A GOOD FRIEND OF MINE WHO'S ON A PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE IN AMARILLO, TEXAS, AND HE INDICATED TO ME, I GUARANTEE IF A WAREHOUSE GOES OVER THERE, THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY WILL GO DOWN.
PLUS THE QUALITY OF LIFE THAT WE HAVE NOW, THAT'S WHY I MOVED INTO THIS PARTICULAR AREA 55 AND OLDER, BECAUSE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS TREMENDOUS.
WITH THAT CONSTRUCTION GOING ON OVER THERE AND THE CHANGES THAT ARE GOING TO BE MADE BECAUSE OF A BIG OLD WAREHOUSE COMING OVER, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
SO THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY I'M TOTALLY AGAINST IT.
I'M TOTALLY IN FAVOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
I'VE GONE NOW SINCE I MET WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, I'VE GONE TO CARROLLTON, I'VE GONE TO GRAPEVINE, I'VE GONE TO SOUTHLAKE, AND I'VE LOOKED AT THE ENTRANCES INTO THEIR CITIES AND THERE'S NO STORAGE WAREHOUSE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD IN ANY OF THOSE PLACES AT ALL.
BY THE WAY, OURS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T WANT A STORAGE UNIT THERE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU'D WANT TO LIVE NEAR A STORAGE UNIT.
I KNOW SOME OF THE PEOPLE ON YOUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE, THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULDN'T LIKE TO LIVE NEAR ONE, SO THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF IT.
AND THEN WE HAVE CARLA RUSSELL.
MY HUSBAND, KEITH ABRAMS, WAS GOING TO SPEAK, BUT HE'S DECIDED TO DONATE HIS TIME TO ME.
KEITH ABRAMS. ALSO VICTORIA PEARSON IS DONATING HER TIME.
SHE DID NOT WANT TO SPEAK, BUT SHE WOULD ALSO.
WHAT WAS HER NAME? VICTORIA PEARSON.
AGAIN, MY NAME IS ANGELICA ABRAMS. I LIVE AT 1914 BYBRONHAM DRIVE, WHICH, AS YOU KNOW, IS A GATED 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY WITH MY HUSBAND.
OUR HOME WILL BE THE MOST DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS PROJECT.
LITERALLY, THE HOMES ACROSS THE WAY WHERE MARK AND KELLY AND DON AND JAN LIVE ARE AT LEAST 100 FEET FURTHER THAN WHERE OUR HOME SITS.
SO THE ENTRANCE INTO THE GATE FROM OLD ORCHARD INTO THE COMMUNITY WILL LITERALLY NOW BE IN OUR BACKYARD.
THAT IS WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE.
A 6 TO 10, 6 IN THE MORNING UNTIL 10 P.M. AT NIGHT, STATES TO ME THAT IF I CAME IN AT 9.58, 9.59, I'M GOOD AS GOLD BECAUSE IT'S BEFORE 10 P.M.
AND I COULD BE THERE UNLOADING MY TRUCK FOR HOURS, IF THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE.
NOBODY'S GOING TO KICK ME OUT BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY ON SITE.
BUT, AGAIN, A 6 TO 10, IS THAT A NORMAL BUSINESS PRACTICING HOURS? NO.
MORE WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, A 9 TO 5.30, A 9 TO 6.
SO, AGAIN, OUR HOME, THAT 60-FOOT SETBACK, I COULD THROW A ROCK AND HIT IT.
THAT'S HOW CLOSE MY HUSBAND AND I ARE.
WE'RE ALSO CLOSE TO THE LOADING AND UNLOADING GATES.
THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE HEARING AS WELL AS THEY GO UP, GO DOWN.
I EMAILED CLAIRE BARNES AND ASKED HER FOR THE ORIGINAL FOOTAGE FOR THIS BUILDING.
OUR BUILDING NOW IS 39,158 SQUARE FEET, A TOTAL DIFFERENCE OF 244 SQUARE FEET.
THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PLAN IS 118,206.
THE NEW FOOTPRINT IS 117,474, A DIFFERENCE OF 738 SQUARE FEET.
IN THE DEVELOPER'S OWN WORDS, I CANNOT LOSE TOO MUCH FOOTAGE FOR IT TO WORK.
WE ALSO SHOWED THAT THE DIRECTION IS MINIMAL.
GIVEN THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE PROJECT, THIS IS A MARGINAL CONCESSION.
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WE HAVE BEEN CALLED SELFISH FOR BEING PASSIONATE ABOUT ADVOCATING TO PROTECT OUR HOME VALUE, EQUITY, AND QUALITY OF LIFE.HOWEVER, A PRIVATE DEVELOPER'S PROFIT MARGIN SHOULD NOT OUTWEIGH THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES FOR HOMEOWNERS AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.
IT IS HIGHLY LIKELY THAT OUR PROPERTY VALUE AND THOSE OF MY NEIGHBORS WILL BE NEGATIVELY AFFECTED.
THERE IS NO ENTITY THAT CAN GUARANTEE OTHERWISE, NOT THE TOWN COUNCIL, NOT THE DEVELOPER, NOT THE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, AND NOT OUR HOA.
IF YOU CAN GIVE ME A GUARANTEE THAT MY HOME VALUE IS NOT GOING TO BE AFFECTED BY THIS STORAGE FACILITY, THEN I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT IN WRITING SO THAT IF I DECIDE TO MOVE MY HOUSE, I'M NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY MONEY BECAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO PONY UP THE DIFFERENCE.
IF YOU WERE CONSIDERING TO PURCHASE A HOME FOR YOURSELF OR YOUR PARENTS, AND YOU TOURED OUR COMMUNITY AND SAW THIS MASSIVE BUILDING, I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD CHOOSE TO GO THERE.
I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GOING TO GO LOOK AT ANOTHER 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY AND MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT, BUT I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO STARE AT A BUILDING THAT LARGE AND THAT MASSIVE.
FLOWER MOUND'S MISSION AND VISION STATEMENT SAYS, AND I QUOTE, THE VISION OF FLOWER MOUND IS TO PRESERVE OUR UNIQUE COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE, OUR HERITAGE, AND QUALITY OF LIFE CULTIVATING A DYNAMIC ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.
PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION UNANIMOUSLY VOTED 6-0 AGAINST THIS PROJECT, ALIGNING WITH THE TOWN MASTER PLAN OBJECTIVES.
ONE, TO ENSURE GROWTH CONTRIBUTES TO COMMUNITY CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE, AND TO ENSURE GROWTH DOES NOT OCCUR AT THE EXPENSE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, COMMUNITY CHARACTER, OR QUALITY OF LIFE.
THE ENTRANCE FROM FLOWER MOUND, AS YOU KNOW, IS AT THE CORNER OF OLD ORCHARD AND FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
LESS THAN TWO MILES FROM THAT ENTRANCE SITS THE 12-ACRE LANDMARK MOUNT FOR WHICH OUR TOWN IS NAMED AFTER.
DOES THE TOWN TRULY WANT A LARGE STORAGE FACILITY TO SERVE AS THE GATEWAY TO FLOWER MOUND? YOU CAN DRESS IT UP WITH LANDSCAPING AND DESIGN FEATURES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S STILL A LARGE FACILITY GREETING PEOPLE AS THEY ENTER OUR TOWN, HARDLY A REFLECTION OF HOW FLOWER MOUND'S STATED VISION.
APPROVING THIS SETBACK REDUCTION WOULD ALSO SET A PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR EXCEPTIONS ELSEWHERE, GRADUALLY ERODING THE CHARACTER AND LANDSCAPE THAT MAKE FLOWER MOUND SPECIAL.
FLOWER MOUND HAS BEEN RECOGNIZED FOR YEARS AS ONE OF THE TOP 100 MOST LIVABLE SMALL TO MID-SIZED CITIES IN THE COUNTRY TO MOVE INTO, A DISTINCTION EARNED BY PAST MAYORS AND COUNCILS WHO PRIORITIZE RESIDENTS OVER COMMERCIAL CONVENIENCE.
AND AS RECENTLY, THE CITY'S POLCO NOMINATIONS, AS YOU ALL KNOW, FURTHER REFLECT THAT COMMITMENT TO OUR CURRENT MAYOR AND THE TOWN COUNCIL.
I THINK IF YOU, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I HAVE SENT TWO EMAILS.
I WAS A LITTLE SURPRISED WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOU'D ONLY RECEIVED FOUR, BECAUSE I KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT SENT IN EMAILS AND IT WAS MORE THAN FOUR.
SO I RESPECTFULLY WANT TO SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE EMAILS, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TRUE REFLECTION OF HOW EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY FEELS.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KNOWN FOR, WE ARE KNOWN FOR BEING A SMALL TOWN.
WE ARE KNOWN FOR BEING AN UPSCALE TOWN AS WELL.
AND COMING INTO, IF I WAS COMING INTO THE CITY AND I SAW A STORAGE UNIT, ALL THAT SCREAMS TO ME IS, OH, JUST CONTINUATION OF LOUISVILLE.
I LIVED IN COPPELL FOR 20 SOME ODD YEARS.
WE MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND INTO THIS RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
WE COULD HAVE MOVED ANYWHERE, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE CHOSE, BASED ON THE RECOGNITION, BASED ON THE PEOPLE WANT TO MOVE INTO FLOWER MOUND, BECAUSE IT IS A SMALL TOWN FEEL, BECAUSE THEY DO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.
I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOU TO CONTINUE THAT LEGACY, PRESERVE OUR SMALL TOWN CHARACTER AND CHARM, AND DENY THIS REQUEST.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.
CAN YOU HAVE YOUR FRIEND FILL OUT, IS IT VICTORIA? YEAH, CAN YOU FILL OUT A WHITE COMMENT CARD? YOU DID? I DIDN'T SEE ONE.
GOOD EVENING. I'M CARLA RUSSELL. I'M AT 1951 VIBURNUM DRIVE.
A BEHEMOTH BUILDING REFERS TO A STRUCTURE OF IMMENSE, OFTEN OVERWHELMING OR MONSTROUS SIZE AND POWER.
IT SUGGESTS A BUILDING THAT DOMINATES ITS SURROUNDINGS DUE TO ITS SHEER, CUMBERSOME OR HEAVY SCALE, CONSEQUENTLY IMPLYING IT IS INEFFICIENT, INTIMIDATING, OR DISAPPROPRIATELY LARGE COMPARED TO ITS ENVIRONMENT.
MY HUSBAND AND I MOVED HERE ALMOST SIX YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE FOUND FLOWER MOUND
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TO BE A CHARMING, SMALL AREA TO RETIRE IN.IT'S 98 HOMES, WONDERFUL PEOPLE, BUT THE IDEA THAT I WILL BE GETTING UP IN THE MORNING AND TAKING A WALK AND LOOKING AT THE BACK OF A BUILDING THAT SHOULD BE IN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE.
IT SHOULD NOT BE AT THE BEGINNING COMING INTO OUR BEAUTIFUL CITY.
I JUST AM IMPLORING YOU TO VOTE AGAINST IT, GO WITH THE P&Z ZONING BOARD THAT UNANIMOUSLY VOTED IT DOWN FOR REASON.
IT HAS NOT CHANGED WHAT THEY'VE COME UP WITH.
JOHN ZHANG AND THEN CARLA RUSSELL.
THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
MY WIFE, MY DAUGHTER, LIVED IN 2001 WITH BARHAM JOY.
JUST NEIGHBOR TO OUR SWIMMING POOL, VERY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.
I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, NO DOUBT.
AND THAT AREA IS THE BEST PLACE FOR US TO WATCH THE JUNE 9TH FIREWALL.
SO AT THE JUNE 9TH FIREWALL, THERE MAY BE THE CHECKOUT.
YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE TO SECURE THAT AREA ON THAT DAY.
I JUST WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO REPORT ONE ISSUE FROM MY PHONE.
SO I LOVE FLOWER MOUND, BUT THE APPLE MOP, THE APPLE MOP, TRANSLATED THE FLOWER MOUND INTO CHINESE, NOT A GOOD NAME.
SO JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU YOUR STUFF, HAVE SOMEONE TO CHECK THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER NAME IN CHINESE FOR OUR DEAR FLOWER MOUND.
MAYOR AND COUNCILMAN, GOOD EVENING.
I HAVE REALLY THREE KEY ISSUES.
I SENT THEM ALL TO YOU SO YOU CAN LOOK AT THEM IN ADVANCE.
WITH THE REDUCED TIME, I THINK I'M GOING TO FOCUS IN ON THE SECOND ONE, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT THE BUILDING IS TOO TALL AND IT DOESN'T MEET THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.
WELL, ACTUALLY, THAT BUILDING IS SHORTER THAN THE BUILDING THAT'S APPROVED THERE, AND I THINK OF IT AS THE TAIL OF TWO TWO-STORY BUILDINGS.
YOU HAVE A RETAIL BUILDING THAT IN ALL LIKELIHOOD WILL GET BUILT.
SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS GOING TO GET BUILT WITH RETAIL USERS.
THE BACK OF THAT BUILDING NEXT TO THE HOMEOWNERS IS TALLER THAN THE BACK OF THE BUILDING WE'RE PROPOSING.
AND THE REASON, SO THAT'S POINT NUMBER ONE.
POINT NUMBER TWO IS A COMPATIBILITY SETBACK.
YOU COULD SHOW THIS TO MOST GRADE SCHOOLERS, AND THEY'RE GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THAT'S A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
IT'S AS TALL AS A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
AND WHAT HAPPENS ON THE INSIDE OF THAT BUILDING HAS VERY LITTLE TO DO WITH THE COMPATIBILITY SETBACK, AND I'M SAYING THAT'S NOT A GOOD APPLICATION OF THAT ORDINANCE.
HAVING TO STEP BACK JUST BECAUSE OUR TWO-STORY BUILDING HAS A SECOND FLOOR, THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
THE POINT IS WHAT DO THOSE NEIGHBORS SEE WHEN THEY STEP OUT ON THEIR SIDEWALK AND LOOK OVER THE TOP OF THAT EIGHT-FOOT WALL? THEY DON'T SEE A LOT WITH ORCHARD STORAGE, I'LL ASSURE YOU, WITH THE STORAGE BUILDING.
THEY'LL SEE MORE WITH THE RETAIL, AND THEY'LL CERTAINLY SMELL IT, HEAR IT, FEEL THE TRAFFIC, ALL THE IMPACTS.
THIS IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE, I THINK, FOR THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S BASED ON THAT WE HAVE THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF RESIDENTS THAT WANT IT AND ARE CONVINCED THAT IT WILL HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPACT ON THEM.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT, SO I DIDN'T LEAVE ANYBODY OFF, RIGHT? OKAY, I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T SKIP ANYBODY.
ALL RIGHT, SO IF WE'RE ALL DONE, LET'S GO HAVE A COMMENT.
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I'M JUST GOING TO CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.COUNCIL, SO THERE'S JUST A LOT.
THIS IS A PRETTY HEATED TOPIC, OBVIOUSLY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF STRENGTHS, WEAKNESSES, OPPORTUNITIES, THREATS.
YOU CAN SEE THE PROS AND CONS FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MATTER OF WEEDING THIS ALL OUT AND DELIBERATING ON THIS.
NOW, COUNCIL, DO YOU WANT TO DELIBERATE A LITTLE BIT? WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP.
YEAH, I WANT TO DELIBERATE A LITTLE BIT.
BUT I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN FLOWER MOUND SINCE 97, AND MY FIRST HOUSE WAS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND MY SON, WHO'S 30 NOW, WENT TO THE DAYCARE, PRIMROSE.
SO EVERY SINGLE DAY WE DROVE BY, YOU KNOW, DONALD ORCHARD RIGHT THERE.
AND WHAT WE LOOKED AT WAS AN OPEN FIELD WITH PONIES AND HORSES AND NEIGHBORS WALKING AND FEEDING THE HORSES APPLES.
NOT SURE IF THE OWNERS KNEW OR IF THEY APPROVED, BUT I SAW IT HAPPEN.
AND SOMETIME IN THE EARLY 2000S, THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY WAS DEVELOPED, AND IT HAD LIKE A RETAIL STRIP MALL KIND OF OPERATION.
AND, OF COURSE, THERE WAS JUST A PONY BEHIND IT, SO THEY DIDN'T CARE.
BUT ODDLY, WITHIN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT RETAIL BUILDING, IT WAS DEMOLISHED.
I WAS LIKE, WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE GENTLEMAN WHO WAS ON P&Z, I GUESS YOU WERE IN THE 90S, SO THAT WAS AFTER YOUR TIME ON P&Z.
BUT I'M NOT SURE REALLY WHY THAT WAS DEMOLISHED OR WHAT HAPPENED.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WAS BUILT THERE BEFORE THAT PROBABLY WAS LESS DESIRABLE THAN WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT NOW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE THAT PERSPECTIVE.
AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY IS THE NUMBERS.
WE HAD A LITTLE DISCREPANCY IN HOW MANY EMAILS WERE PRO AND CON.
AND WHAT I DID IS I WENT THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ONE, AND BY MY COUNT.
MORE THAN I DID FOR OPPOSITION.
I REMOVED THE DUPLICATES, BECAUSE I'M KIND OF GOING LIKE ONE PERSON, ONE OPINION, ONE VOTE.
AND I RECEIVED 32 IN FAVOR AND 11 AGAINST.
SO THAT'S ABOUT A THREE-TO-ONE RATIO.
AND SO I THINK THE 11 NUMBER PROBABLY MATCHES UP A LITTLE BIT BETTER, CLOSER TO WHAT YOU ALL WERE THINKING IT WAS.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S A THREE-TO-ONE RATIO PRO, YOU KNOW, SUPPORT TO AGAINST.
AND THEN ALSO THE NUMBER THAT WAS REPORTED OF THE HOA, WHICH WAS APPROXIMATELY 83% SUPPORT OF THE 70 HOMES REACHED.
SO I'M JUST GIVING SOME EXTRA FACTS OUT THERE.
AND THEN TONIGHT, I COUNTED FOR OUR COMMENTS, 22 SUPPORTED AND 13 OPPOSED.
AND THEN ALSO THERE WERE THE NON-SPEAKING PEOPLE, 21 SUPPORTED AND THREE AGAINST.
SO I LOVE THAT YOU'RE ALL SO ENGAGED, AND I WANT TO SAY YOU ALL ARE SO SMART.
THE QUALITY OF THE EMAILS AND THE COMMENTS WAS OUTSTANDING.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE COME FROM MANY DIFFERENT WALKS OF LIFE, AND YOU'VE REALLY INVESTED YOUR TIME.
IT WAS NOT JUST THE COPY-AND-PASTE EMAILS THAT WE SOMETIMES GET.
YOU ALL DID A REALLY GREAT JOB, AND I'M VERY PROUD OF YOU FOR COMING FORWARD.
SO WHOEVER WANTS TO DEBATE NEXT.
I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A DEBATE SO MUCH AS THEY WERE VERY WELL-SPOKEN, AND BOTH SIDES WERE VERY MOVING.
BUT WHEN THE CLOSE NEIGHBORS ARE OPPOSED TO THIS EXTENT, IT GIVES ME PAUSE.
THERE CERTAINLY ARE MANY, MANY GOOD FEATURES.
AND WHEN I FIRST SAW THIS, I THOUGHT, AND I HEARD THAT THERE WERE SO MANY, THAT ALL THE NEIGHBORS WERE ON BOARD.
IT WAS, OKAY, ALL RIGHT, THEY'RE ON BOARD.
BUT AS THE NEGATIVE COMMENTS AND OPINIONS STARTED COMING OUT, IT STARTED MAKING ME WORRIED THAT THERE ARE NOT SO MANY PEOPLE THAT ARE IN FAVOR OF THIS.
I DO SEE THE OTHER SIDE, THAT IT COULD BE WAY WORSE, AND IT ACTUALLY COULD BE WAY WORSE.
BUT IT ALSO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AT THIS MOMENT, AND IT'S NOT APPEALING
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TO YOU.ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, I'M READY TO GO.
OKAY, SO FIRST OF ALL, TO THE APPLICANT, O'NEILL, THIS IS A REALLY WELL-EXECUTED BUILDING, VERY, VERY WELL DONE.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON OUTREACH.
WE KNOW THE ORCHARD FLOWER IS VERY WILLING TO PROVIDE THEIR FEEDBACK.
WE'VE SEEN THEM BEFORE, BUT SOMETIMES PUBLIC SUPPORT IS THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS ON AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS.
SO OVERALL, YOU DID A REALLY GOOD JOB.
LIKE HAS BEEN POINTED OUT, MOST OF THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED HAS BEEN IN FAVOR.
WHAT MAKES THIS DIFFERENT, AS SEVERAL SPEAKERS HAVE SAID, IS THAT IT IS A GATEWAY TO THE TOWN, AND THERE IS A MASTER PLAN UPDATE DOCUMENT ON OUR WEBSITE FROM 2006, AND IT SAYS, QUOTE, THE ENTRANCES TO THE TOWN SHOULD BE PROMINENT AND PROVIDE AN ADEQUATE SENSE OF ARRIVING AT THIS SPECIAL AREA KNOWN AS THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, END QUOTE.
SO TOWN ENTRANCES ARE HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD.
THIS APPLICATION PROPOSES TO REPLACE AN 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING WITH A 120,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING THAT HAS THE APPEARANCE OF AN INDUSTRIAL USE AT A GATEWAY TO THE TOWN.
SO THERE IS A BUILDING I FOUND THAT'S VERY COMPARABLE.
IT'S THE VERY FIRST WAREHOUSE BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF 2499 AT GIROUX.
THIS BUILDING PROPOSED IS 113 FEET DEEP AND 353 FEET WIDE.
IT'S ALMOST IDENTICAL IN SIZE TO THE VERY FIRST WAREHOUSE THAT YOU HIT AT GIROUX ON 2499, WHICH IS A GATEWAY TO THE TOWN.
AND AT TOWN COUNCIL FROM 2013, THEY GOT IT WRONG.
THEY TOOK A BEAUTIFUL ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN, AND THEY PUT INDUSTRIAL WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, AND WE GET LOTS OF FEEDBACK SAYING THAT PEOPLE ARE NOT REAL HAPPY ABOUT THAT, AND I HAVE COMMITTED TO NOT DOING THAT AGAIN.
IN FACT, ONE OF THE REASONS I'M ON COUNCIL TODAY IS BECAUSE I THINK THEY GOT IT WRONG, AND I WANTED TO BE HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DIDN'T DO THAT AGAIN.
SO WITH THAT SAID, I'M OPPOSED TO THIS.
SO I SAW A LOT OF EMAILS FOR SUPPORT.
AGAIN, I THINK IT WAS MORE THAN THREE.
I THINK THERE WAS DEFINITELY WAY MORE THAN THREE.
I MEAN, I'M SEEING A LOT OF MIXED REACTION.
THE ONE THING I DID WANT TO ASK MAYBE TOWN STAFF A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WAS WHAT ARE THE APPROVED BY RIGHT? COULD A FAST FOOD GO THROUGH IN THAT SECTION WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COUNCIL? YEAH, I DID PULL UP THE CURRENTLY APPROVED PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
THERE ARE QUITE A NUMBER OF LISTED PERMITTED USES.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT ME TO JUST, LIKE, LIST OUT ALL THE ONES THAT AREN'T ACCESSORY, THEIR PRIMARY USES.
YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD, JUST TO UNDERSTAND.
LIKE TIRE SHOP I THINK REQUIRES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
YEAH, PERMITTED USES IN THE R2 DISTRICT CURRENTLY ARE ANTIQUE SHOP, ART GALLERY, ART SUPPLY STORE, AUTO PARTS AND ACCESSORY SALES AND DOOR, BAIT AND SPORTING GOODS SALES, BAKERY, BANK, BOOKSTORE, CLEANING, LAUNDRY PICKUP STATION, CONVENIENCE STORE.
THAT WOULDN'T INCLUDE THE GASOLINE SALES.
IT WOULD JUST BE A CONVENIENCE STORE.
CUSTOM PERSONAL SHOP, MUSIC SCHOOL, DRUG STORE, FLORIST, FRATERNAL CLUB, HARDWARE STORE, HEALTH CLUB, MEDICAL LAB, SCIENTIFIC LAB, FUNERAL HOME, MEDICAL OFFICE, BUSINESS OFFICE, OPTICAL SALES, PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES, PET STORE, PLANT NURSERY, PUBLIC BUILDING, SHOPPER YARD, FAST FOOD RESTAURANT, GENERAL RESTAURANT, GENERAL RETAIL, SINGLE TENANT RETAIL LESS THAN 25,000 SQUARE FEET, SUPERMARKET, THEATER, AND TRAVEL BUREAU OR CONSULTANT.
AND TO EVERYONE THAT'S OPPOSED, EVERYONE'S FOR THIS, TO ECHO WHAT OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID, YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB.
VERY WELL-EDUCATED, RESEARCHED THE ISSUES, COME UP WITH WELL-INTENTIONED, WELL-THOUGHT-OUT, VERY REASONABLE ARGUMENTS, BOTH SIDES.
SO I DO SEE BOTH SIDES OF THIS ISSUE.
FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, WHEN I FIRST HEARD OF SELF-STORAGE UNIT, I THOUGHT, NO, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GOOD.
BUT THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE TYPE OF THIS IS.
THIS ISN'T YOUR UNCONTROLLED ACCESS.
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IT'S NOT.WITH THE HOURS OF OPERATION, WITH THE GATES, WITH THE AESTHETICS.
AND SO I GOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THE OTHER APPROVED RETAIL COMPONENT THAT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL.
YOU KNOW, LEXAN JUST READ THROUGH THAT LIST.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD GO IN.
THE THINGS THAT STAND OUT TO ME ARE THE SETBACK.
I KNOW THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE REDUCED SETBACK TO 60 FEET.
THE WAY I LOOK AT IT, AND I THINK A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS MENTIONED THIS WAS, I THINK LEXAN MENTIONED THIS IN HER PRESENTATION AS WELL, IS THE INTENTION BEHIND THAT CODE IS FOR THE TWO-STORY BUILDING WITH THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING.
THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE USE CASE FOR THIS TWO-STORY BUILDING.
SO, THEREFORE, IT DOES MEET A 60-FOOT REQUIREMENT, WHICH IS MUCH GREATER THAN THE ALREADY APPROVED BUFFER OR OFFSET.
SO, TO ME, I THINK THIS IS A WIN.
I THINK THE 60-FOOT BUFFER IS ACTUALLY A WIN COMPARED TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE APPROVED.
THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, I'M VERY SENSITIVE TO THE TRAFFIC.
WE'VE SEEN QUITE A FEW DEVELOPMENTS COME THROUGH IN TOWN.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR IS A TIA.
AND I THINK WE ALL KNOW THAT TRAFFIC IS, THERE ARE TIMES THAT IT'S A CHALLENGE IN TOWN, AND WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO UNREASONABLY EXACERBATE THAT PROBLEM.
WITH THE LIMITED USE OF THIS, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE SO MUCH LESS THAN WHAT'S ALREADY APPROVED.
ONE OF THE COMMENTS WAS, THIS IS GOING TO MAKE TRAFFIC WORSE BY ADDING 30 OR 40 CARS A DAY.
I THINK WHAT WOULD REALLY MAKE THE TRAFFIC BAD IS THE RETAIL COMPONENT, TO ADD TO WHAT'S RIGHT THERE ON YOUR EAST, JUST ACROSS THE ROAD, THE AUTOMOTIVE, THE H2O.
SO, I THINK THAT THE TRAFFIC, I'VE GOTTEN COMFORTABLE THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT ISSUE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RESONATED WITH ME, AND I'M SORRY, I TOOK QUITE A FEW NOTES, SO I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT RESONATED IS THE NOISE BUFFER, BLOCKING THE NOISE FROM FLOWER MOUND ROAD.
I REALLY CAN'T HEAR HIM VERY WELL.
SO, THE BUFFER THAT THIS BUILDING WOULD PROVIDE IS, I THINK, MEANINGFUL.
IT'S SOMEWHAT OFFSET BY THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE OVERHEAD AIRLINE TRAFFIC.
SO, NOISE IS GOING TO BE A CHALLENGE NO MATTER WHAT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO FIX THAT WITH A BUILDING ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
BUT WHAT DID REALLY STICK IS THE SECURITY PIECE OF IT.
HAVING THAT THERE, HAVING IT GATED, HAVING THE SECURITY THERE FOR THE 55 AND OVER COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT'S A POSITIVE.
I'M GOING THROUGH MY NOTES HERE.
AND AGAIN, YOU GUYS DID A PHENOMENAL JOB.
I'M JUST HAVING TO PICK A FEW HIGHLIGHTS HERE AND THERE.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS HAS BEEN AN OPEN FIELD, AND WE'D RATHER HAVE IT STAY THAT WAY.
BUT I WANT IT TO STAY THE WAY IT WAS FOREVER, AND IT'S GETTING DEVELOPED.
AND SO, IT'S GOING TO GET DEVELOPED.
AND SO, THE QUESTION BECOMES, IS THIS WHAT WE WANT OR IS THIS NOT WHAT WE DON'T WANT? I THINK WITH THE...
AND LOOKING AT IT IN TOTALITY, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THIS AREA.
AS WE TALKED BEFORE, THERE'S BEEN RETAIL THERE.
I'M SENSITIVE TO THE FACT THAT IT IS AN EYESORE COMING IN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT.
I DON'T KNOW, IS IT A BIGGER OR WORSE EYESORE THAN THE TWO RETAIL BUSINESSES OR TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS? I DON'T KNOW.
IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG BUILDING.
THERE'S NO HIDING BEHIND THAT.
IT'S GOING TO BE A TWO-STORY BUILDING.
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE...
THE AESTHETICS ARE GOING TO BE VERY NICE.
SO, I THINK, TO ME, THAT HELPS OFFSET THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING.
SO, I DO AGREE WITH ADAM THAT WE DON'T WANT THE WAREHOUSE LIKE WE HAVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF TOWN, THE ENTRANCE THERE.
I KNOW THIS IS A COMPARABLE SIZE.
I THINK, TO ME, THE DIFFERENTIATOR IS THE AESTHETICS, HAVING THE SETBACK FOR THE SIGN, THE LIGHTING, THE MURALS.
I THINK WHATEVER GOES THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A PARK.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE OPEN SPACE.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING DEVELOPED.
I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST COMPROMISE THAT WE CAN HAVE.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND SOMETHING THAT WAS TRULY BETTER, I BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED BY NOW.
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THIS LAND IS SET EMPTY FOR A LONG TIME.SO, FOR THOSE REASONS, I THINK THIS IS A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE MAP BECAUSE IT'S NOT HALF AND HALF BY ANY STRETCH.
THE EMAILS IN SUPPORT WERE 74%.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT WAS 63%.
AND THE AVERAGE OF ALL THREE OF THOSE IS 73% IN SUPPORT.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID, WOULD YOU WANT IT IN YOUR BACKYARD? WELL, FACED WITH THE ALTERNATIVES, I THINK IT IS A PRETTY GOOD OPERATION.
AND I THINK THAT THE DEVELOPER HAS TRIED.
AND WE SIT HERE FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AND I HAVE SEEN DEVELOPER AFTER DEVELOPER AFTER DEVELOPER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU FROM EVERY SINGLE ONE I'VE SEEN, THIS ONE HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST AMENABLE TO THE FEEDBACK THAT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO THEM.
NOW, IS IT PERFECTLY WHAT YOU WANT? CLEARLY, NO.
BECAUSE 13 OF YOU SPOKE AGAINST IT.
AND I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR POINTS.
BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THIS PERSON, THIS DEVELOPER, HAS TRIED.
AND EVEN AFTER P&Z SAID, NO, WE DON'T LIKE IT AS IT IS, THEY WENT BACK AND THEY TRIED AGAIN.
AND THEY DID MAKE SOME CHANGES.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE MATH IS 73% IN SUPPORT.
THAT WOULD WIN AN ELECTION EASILY.
AND ALSO, BRIAN, YOU MADE A LOT OF REALLY, REALLY GREAT POINTS.
I THINK ANYTHING ELSE THAT'S ON THAT LIST THAT LEXAN READ COULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED BY NOW.
AND TO THE POINT, TOO, ABOUT THE ENTRANCE OF OUR TOWN.
OUR TOWN HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE THE 60S.
THERE'S BEEN NOTHING TO REINFORCE THAT ENTRANCE OF OUR TOWN IDEAL THERE EVER.
WE HAD A TINY LITTLE SIGN THAT SAID THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
AND IT WAS ON THE NEXT INTERSECTION WITH GARDEN RIDGE.
THAT'S THE NEXT ONE TRAVELING WEST.
AND SOMEBODY HIT IT WITH THEIR CAR AND IT NEVER GOT REPLACED.
SO WE HAVE NOT HONORED THAT COMMITMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT WE SAY WE WANT TO DO.
IN PRACTICE, THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED.
SO I DON'T THINK WE CAN GRANDSTAND ON THIS BUILDING WITH A DEVELOPER WHO'S COME FORWARD AND MADE MANY, MANY CONCESSIONS AND ENHANCEMENTS.
HE HAS FLOWER MOUNDED THIS UP.
THIS IS NOT YOUR AVERAGE RUN-OF-THE-MILL STORAGE FACILITY.
AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT EVEN REALLY THAT FOND OF THE WAREHOUSE MONIKER BECAUSE IT'S NOT REALLY A WAREHOUSE.
IT IS MINI WAREHOUSE STORAGE BY USE DEFINITION.
BUT IT'S CERTAINLY NOTHING LIKE THE MILLION SQUARE FOOT SITUATION WE HAD A FEW YEARS AGO.
SO I THINK I AM LEANING TOWARD BEING IN FAVOR OF IT.
THERE'S AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF LOCAL NEARBY RESIDENTS WHO WANT THIS.
THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED WHO IS IN SUPPORT AND WHO'S IN OPPOSITION.
AND I AM TORN BECAUSE IF IT WAS MY PROPERTY AND SOMETHING WAS GOING IN NEXT DOOR, I WOULD BE VERY ADAMANT ABOUT SPEAKING UP ABOUT WHAT I WANTED THERE.
THERE ARE JUST SO MANY PROS AND CONS TO THIS.
BUT THE NUMBERS DO SUPPORT THE SUPPORT OF THIS.
I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR ACTUALLY THE APPLICANT, THE DEVELOPER.
O'NEILL, ARE YOU STILL? I CAN'T SEE YOU BEHIND THE.
CAN YOU COME UP AND LET ME ASK A QUESTION OF YOU, PLEASE? SO I'M LEADING THE MEETING.
SO ANYWAY, THERE WAS A LOT OF PROS AND CONS TO THIS.
SO, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS IS GOING TO BE IMPORTANT.
BUT I DO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS SIMILAR TO ONE OF THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT WE HAD THAT'S CALLED PINE HILL.
AND I REMEMBER IT JUST REMINDS ME OF THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU THINK OF PINE HILL, BUT I DO, WHERE EVERYBODY WAS AFRAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO A DEVELOPMENT THERE.
THE RESIDENTS WERE WORRIED ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT GOING IN.
AND WHAT COULD HAVE GONE IN INSTEAD WAS A NURSING HOME, WHICH IF YOU KNOW NURSING HOMES, IT'S A LOT OF EMERGENCY VEHICLES, A LOT MORE TRAFFIC GOING IN AND OUT VERSUS A SMALL RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT IN THIS AREA IS IF THIS DOESN'T GO IN, IF IT'S NOT APPROVED.
NOT THAT I REALLY WANT A WAREHOUSE TYPE OF ENTRY TO FLOWER MOUND, BUT THERE IS A LOT OF LANDSCAPING THAT YOU'RE ADDING.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T GO IN, WHAT IS GOING TO GO IN INSTEAD? AS THE LIST GLEXEN MENTIONED, THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
AND IT'S NOT THIS COUNCIL I'M CONCERNED ABOUT.
IT'S THE COUNCIL THAT COMES NEXT.
AND WHAT WILL THEY APPROVE? RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF CAMPAIGN SIGNS THERE, MINIMAL TREES.
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OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING AND THE LANDSCAPING BUFFERS THAT YOU ARE ADDING SIGNIFICANTLY.AND I AM TORN, BUT I'M NOT VOTING.
WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD.
YOU'VE MADE A LOT OF CONCESSIONS.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE DONE IT IN GOOD FAITH.
AND YOU'VE WORKED ON THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
I MAY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER ONE MORE.
AND I DID HEAR THROUGH SOME OF THE COMMENTS CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOURS OF OPERATION BEING 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M.
AND I REALIZE THERE'S NO OVERNIGHT, WHICH IS A HUGE BONUS.
I THINK THERE ARE SOME STORAGE FACILITIES THAT HAVE 24-7 ACCESS, AND YOU'VE ALREADY LIMITED THAT.
WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO CONSIDERING CHANGING THE HOURS TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE PEACE OF MIND, WHETHER IT BE A LITTLE BIT LATER OPENING ON THE WEEKENDS OR A LITTLE BIT EARLIER CLOSING AT CERTAIN TIMES? COULD THAT BE AN OPTION TO SHOW ONE MORE EFFORT OF GOOD FAITH? YES, I BELIEVE SO.
DO YOU MIND IF I? NO, I DON'T MIND AT ALL.
SO DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF HOURS YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO WORK WITH? SEE, THE ISSUE IS IT'S GOING TO BE MANAGED BY EXTRASPACERS THAT ARE REITS.
SO NATIONALLY THEY RUN THEIR PROPERTIES FROM 6 A.M. TO 10 P.M. ON LIKE EIGHT HOURS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MODIFY THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO OWN IT, SO WE CAN.
I MEAN, WOULD WE RATHER MODIFY ON THE WEEKEND, I'M ASSUMING, KEEP THE WEEKDAY THE SAME AND MODIFY THE WEEKEND OR MODIFY ALL THROUGHOUT THE WEEK? WHAT ARE WE THINKING? WELL, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RESIDENTS MIGHT PREFER.
I MEAN, I THINK MAYBE ANYTHING LATER AND THEN EARLIER ON THE CLOSING MIGHT HELP A LITTLE BIT.
AND YOU MENTIONED YOU DID ADDRESS THE GATE NOISE.
YOU'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE THAT WITH YOUR DESIGN ELEMENTS.
AND ALSO SOME WHO WERE IN SUPPORT MENTIONED THE OVERHEAD.
AND I REMEMBER WHEN I LIVED THERE, AND I STILL HEAR IT A LOT WHERE I LIVE NOW.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF NOISE, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC NOISE.
I DON'T THINK THE GATE NOISE IS GOING TO BE THAT MUCH.
BUT PEOPLE UNLOADING AND LOADING, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN BE LOUD, THEY CAN BE BOISTEROUS.
I THINK 7 A.M.? I MEAN, WHAT ARE YOU ALL THINKING? WOULD THAT HELP YOU? SO OUR PUBLIC WORKS, THEIR SCHEDULE DOESN'T START UNTIL, WHAT, 7.30 FOR CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS? IS THAT RIGHT? 7.
I COULDN'T REMEMBER BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF THAT WOULD HELP.
AND SOMEONE SAID IF A CUSTOMER CAME IN AT 9.59, THEY COULD STAY AND THEN LEAVE AFTERWARDS.
SO WHAT IF YOU CLOSED IT AT 9? 7 TO 9.
I GUESS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT, TO ANN'S POINT THAT SHE JUST ASKED, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WOULD PROHIBIT SOMEONE FROM COMING IN RIGHT BEFORE THE GATES ARE LOCKED FOR THE NIGHT AND STAYING FOR HOURS? HONESTLY, NO.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS, SO WE WOULD CATCH THEM.
WE COULD REACH OUT TO THEM THE NEXT DAY AND LET THEM KNOW IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE.
BUT I'M JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU ALL.
YOU KNOW, IT'S MONITORED 24-7.
AND IF THAT USE CASE DID COME THROUGH, OR IF THAT SITUATION DID OCCUR, I ASSUME THERE WOULD BE AN EASY WAY FOR THE RESIDENTS TO REACH OUT TO YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO LET THEM KNOW SO THEY CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE.
YEAH, MY NUMBER'S NOT CHANGING AT THIS.
PLEASE ALWAYS REACH OUT, CALL ME.
I WANT TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN LOOK AT PAST PROJECTS.
WE WANT TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND THE MANAGERS ARE VERY ATTENTIVE.
AND I THINK WHAT ANN SUGGESTED WOULD BE VERY REASONABLE.
SO FOR THOSE WHO'VE EXPRESSED THEY'RE NOT ON BOARD, ON COUNCIL, DO YOU THINK THIS MIGHT HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT? WELL, TO BE CLEAR, I DIDN'T SAY I WAS FOR OR AGAINST IT.
SO I KNOW ADAMS MENTIONED ENTRY TO TOWN AND THE DOROUGH AREA.
I KIND OF TRIED TO LOOK THROUGH DOROUGH AND SEE WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT DOROUGH, THERE ARE THESE HUGE OFFICE, WELL, I WOULD SAY THEY'RE WAREHOUSES.
THIS IS MORE OF AN OFFICE BUILDING WITH A LOT OF AMENITIES TO IT.
I MEAN, WHEN I WAS LISTENING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, I WAS TRYING TO GET A FEELING OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE AT THAT ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE LINEUP SITE.
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IT WAS IN FAVOR.NOW, WHAT ABOUT THE SETBACK? AND THERE'S NO CHANGE IN THAT SETBACK? THAT'S THE SETBACK? THERE'S NO WAY TO MAKE IT A GOOD PERFORMANCE.
THE QUESTION IS, WOULD A CHANGE OF MICROPHONE GO OVER THAT SETBACK AND WE COULD MOVE ON THAT'S THE SETBACK.
THERE'S NO WAY TO MODIFY THAT.
BECAUSE I WOULD THINK THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME SORT OF MODIFICATION YOU COULD MAKE ON THAT AT THIS POINT.
I MEAN, YOU START CUTTING INTO THE SETBACK, SO YOU TAKE, YOU KNOW, 20 FEET OUT.
06,000, 7,000, THREE FLOORS, 21,000 SQUARE FEET OFF OUR BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, I CAN, OF COURSE, DISCUSS, BUT I THINK AT THAT POINT, IT'S KIND OF.
SO BRIAN MENTIONED THIS POINT, MAYOR, TO YOUR POINT.
BRIAN MENTIONED THIS, AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT IT GLOSSED OVER OR NOT, BUT YOU CORRECT ME IF I DIDN'T GET IT RIGHT, OKAY? THE CURRENT BUILDING THAT'S APPROVED, A ONE-STORY BUILDING, WAS GOING TO BE 26 FEET TALL.
AND LEXAN SAID WE CAN HAVE BUILDINGS UP TO 35 FEET TALL IN TOWN.
SO THIS, ALBEIT A TWO-STORY, ON THE BACK SIDE WHERE IT FACES THE HOUSES, THERE ARE NO WINDOWS.
SO IN ESSENCE, HOW WOULD YOU EVEN KNOW IF IT'S ONE-STORY OR TWO-STORY? YOU DON'T KNOW, AND IN FACT, IT'S LOWER THAN THE 26 FEET ON THE BACK SIDE.
THE FRONT'S A LITTLE TALLER, AND THEN WE SAW THE SIDE ELEVATION, AND IT STEPPED DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S 19 FEET, IT'S UNDER 20 FEET, YES? YES, MA'AM, 19 FEET.
OKAY, SO WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ON THE INSIDE IF IT'S ONE-STORY OR TWO-STORIES? 20 FEET IS LESS THAN 26 FEET IN EVERY MATH SITUATION.
AND YOU DON'T SEE THE INSIDE WITH TWO-STORIES VERSUS ONE-STORY.
SO THIS IS MUCH BETTER FROM THAT ASPECT.
IN ADDITION, THE SETBACK IS MUCH LESS.
IT'S 60 FEET SETBACK FOR ONE-STORY, AND THIS IS A 60 FEET SETBACK FOR A LESSER HEIGHT.
SO THIS IS ACTUALLY A BETTER SCENARIO.
AN ALREADY APPROVED ZONING HAS A LESSER SETBACK AS WELL.
YES, SO THIS IS AN IMPROVEMENT.
I THINK YOU WERE AGREEING, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE REITERATE THAT.
I THINK I JUST WANTED TO, THAT WAS A TOPIC THAT CAME UP FREQUENTLY ABOUT THE SETBACKS.
AND SO I JUST WANTED SOME CLARIFICATION.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT, THAT'S A CONCERN THAT PEOPLE HAVE.
AND SO THAT JUST, I JUST WANTED THAT CLEARLY OUTLINED.
I UNDERSTAND, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T THINK IT'S ADJUSTABLE AT THIS POINT.
SO, CHRIS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE YOU WANNA ADD? BECAUSE I KNOW I DIDN'T GIVE YOU MUCH.
YEAH, WELL, THERE'S A FEW LITTLE THINGS.
SO THE FINISHED GRADE, RAISING THE GRADE, ALEXAN, IS THERE A BETTER WAY TO GET TO THE OBJECTIVE THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET TO, HAVING A SET ELEVATION TO REFERENCE OFF OF? I THINK IF THE COUNCIL, IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO MAKE A CONDITION, SOMETHING TO THE EXTENT OF YOUR INTENT, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AFTERWARDS.
WE'LL, ENGINEERING, WE'LL LOOK AT THE GRADE AND TALK TO THE APPLICANT, AND WE'LL TALK WITH BRYN TO MAKE SURE WE WORD IT CORRECTLY.
BUT JUST UNDERSTANDING THE APPLICANT'S PERSPECTIVE, IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WANNA MAKE A CHANGE TO A CONDITION TO JUST SAY THAT THE INTENTION IS FOR IT TO BE ABLE TO BUILT, BE ABLE TO BE BUILT AS DESCRIBED, BUT WITHOUT USING FILL TO ARTIFICIALLY RAISE THE HEIGHT.
AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT AFTERWARDS.
AND THEN JUST, THIS IS JUST A GENERAL COMMENT.
THERE'S A SIDEWALK CONNECTION ON THE NORTHEAST SIDE OF THE ORCHARD FIRE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE'S NO CONNECTION ON YOUR DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INTENTIONAL.
OKAY, SO THE- I'M JUST GUESSING IT WASN'T NEEDED IN SOME CASES WHERE I HAVE NO SECURITY, SO.
AC UNITS, THE RESIDENTS DIDN'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THAT.
I WOULD BE A LITTLE CONCERNED OF HAVING A TON OF AC UNITS AT THAT LOWER AREA, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA MAKE MORE NOISE.
I WAS KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS THAT.
IT WOULD BE BETTER IF THEY WERE ON TOP OF THE BUILDING, BECAUSE IT'D BE LESS NOISY FOR THE RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE, WHAT IS IT, THE- THE PARAPET.
YEAH, I MEAN, THAT ADDRESSES ALL MY CONCERNS.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A LARGE WAREHOUSE-TYPE BUILDING.
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SPACE WITH THE ADDITIONAL FLOWER ADDS TO IT.I THINK IT ACTUALLY WILL LOOK PRETTY GOOD.
SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER CONCERNS.
I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? WELL, I WANNA TALK TO COUNCILMAN SCHISTEL.
ADAM, YOU'RE A NO-GO AND UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE USUALLY VERY GOOD AT STRIKING A DEAL, COMING TO A COMPROMISE.
YOU'VE GOT 74% OF THE RESIDENTS IN FAVOR, AND YOU STILL SAY NO.
YEAH, WE DON'T NEED A LOT OF DISCUSSION.
I'LL JUST SAY THAT SOMETIMES WE CAN LOOK AT ONE OF THESE APPLICATIONS AND SAY, WELL, IS THERE A CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE THIS CAN WORK IF WE FIX CERTAIN ASPECTS OF IT? AND I UNDERSTAND THAT FOR SEVERAL OF YOU, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE CASE, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST THE USE, AND THE USE IS JUST NOT COMPATIBLE AT AN ENTRANCE TO THE TOWN.
I'M STILL ON THE FENCE, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
I STILL, I'M STRUGGLING, BECAUSE THEY DID FLOWER MOUND IT UP, AND IT DOES LOOK LIKE AN OFFICE BUILDING.
I MEAN, THEY WORKED REALLY HARD, AND I COMPLETELY AGREE THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO SATISFY THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, AS FAR AS WE'VE SEEN, AND HAVE BEEN REPORTED TO US, FOR THE MOST PART.
I GUESS I'M STILL, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE RESIDENTS THAT SAY, I DON'T WANT IT IN MY BACKYARD, BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE THAT I WOULD WANT IT EITHER.
I THINK WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT FOR THE RESIDENTS IS WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO IN INSTEAD.
THAT'S WHAT I'M WORRIED ABOUT.
AND DO I WANT THIS TYPE OF BUILDING? WOULD I WANT SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, IDEALLY? YEAH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M WORRIED ABOUT WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO IN NEXT, JUST LIKE THE PINE HILL SITUATION THAT WE HAD, AND THE ALTERNATIVE WAS NOT GOOD, NOT GOOD, BECAUSE, AND THEN THE RESIDENTS REALIZED, OH, THE ALTERNATIVE IS FAR WORSE.
NOT SAYING THAT YOU DID WONDERFUL WORK ON THIS PROJECT.
I DO LOVE HOW MUCH LANDSCAPING YOU ADDED TO THIS, AND THE ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, TO MAKE IT LESS OF A STORAGE OR INDUSTRIAL LOOK, BUT.
I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR, AND I WANTED TO ADD, TOO, FOR JEAN-VIERGE TO CONSIDER.
ALL OF THOSE USES THAT LEXAN LISTED WOULD HAVE ABSOLUTELY ZERO INPUT FROM ANY OF YOU, BECAUSE THOSE ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
SO ANYTHING THAT COMES FORWARD FROM THAT LONG LIST THAT SHE READ, YOU BASICALLY GET NO SAY, BECAUSE THAT WAS ALREADY PROVED, AND THAT COULD COME IN, AND THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
THAT'S, I'M GONNA COUNTERPOINT THAT.
SO THE ONLY THING THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO UNDER THE CURRENT PD IS AN 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING.
THEY CAN'T COME IN AND PUT IN A DRIVE-THROUGH.
THEY CAN'T COME IN AND PUT IN ONE BIG BUILDING.
THEY CAN ONLY PUT IN A DEVELOPMENT THAT CONFORMS TO THE CURRENT EXHIBITS.
IF THEY WANNA DO SOMETHING SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT, THEY HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR PERMISSION.
SO THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO IS AN 11,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING AND A 12,000-SQUARE-FOOT BUILDING.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE CHICK-FIL-A.
IT WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL.
IT WON'T BE THE SAME COUNCIL, YOU KNOW THAT.
SO, I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY SAID ON WHAT THEY, IT SOUNDS LIKE Y'ALL HAVE YOUR IDEAS ON HOW YOU WANNA VOTE.
DO YOU NEED MORE TIME, COUNCILMAN WERNER? YOU'VE ALREADY DECIDED.
SO DOES SOMEONE WANNA MAKE A MOTION? I'LL GO THROUGH WITH IT, BECAUSE I JUST WILL.
I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS PROPOSED, ITEM J1.
COULD I JUST INTERJECT VERY, VERY QUICKLY? AS YOU ALL KNOW, BUT THE AUDIENCE MAY NOT KNOW, THIS RECEIVED A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, AND SO IT WILL REQUIRE FOUR OUT OF FIVE AFFIRMATIVE VOTES TO OVERRIDE IT.
CAN WE AMEND THAT? BECAUSE I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE, AS DESCRIBED, WITHOUT RISING THE GRADE.
I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM J1 AS DESCRIBED WITHOUT CHANGING THE GRADE PER THE CONVERSATION.
AND DID YOU WANNA INCLUDE THOSE HOURS OF OPERATION CHANGES THAT YOU MADE? I DO, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA MATTER FOR YOU.
AND I WANNA INCLUDE THE MODIFIED HOURS OF OPERATION FROM 7 A.M. TO 9 P.M. ONLY.
OKAY, THERESA, DO YOU WANNA TAKE THE ROLL? WE HAD A MOTION AND A SECOND.
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AYE.DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHISTEL? NAY.
I'M SORRY TO THE MAJORITY OF YOU WHO WANTED IT.
YEAH, I KNOW, WE STILL HAVE A MEETING.
I TOOK A PRETTY GOOD LOOK AT THAT.
AT THE LAST MINUTE, THAT WAS NO BRACKET.
CAN YOU TAKE A PICTURE OF ME? HEY, EVERYONE.
SO, HELLO. WAIT FOR MY HUSBAND. MM-HMM. YEAH. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SO OUR MEETING ISN'T OVER YET, SO I'VE GOT TO WRAP THINGS UP. SO OKAY, THE TIME IS NOW 9.33, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSED SESSION. MAYOR, YOU HAVE SECTION K THAT WE STILL NEED TO GO THROUGH. WAIT, WAIT.
DO WE HAVE ANOTHER SECTION? YES, MA'AM. OH, GOD. THANK YOU ALL. YOU GOT ME ALL SHOOK UP
[K. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS ]
HERE. HOLD ON. WHERE AM I? BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. OKAY.HOLD ON. I'M GOING TO GET AHEAD OF MYSELF.
EVERYBODY EXITED. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO CONVENE INTO THE CLOSED SESSION YET.
WE HAVE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS NEXT ON OUR REGULAR ITEMS, AND I KNOW ADAM WANTED TO MENTION A CHANGE FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSION TO MAKE A MOTION. YES. AS EVERYONE KNOWS, WE HAD A NICE PRESENTATION FROM THE TOWN MANAGER ABOUT THE ARTS CENTER. THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION IS A KEY BOARD THAT HAS A LOT ON THEIR PLATE, AND THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN THAT BOARD. I'VE HAD SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE CHAIR AND SOME OF THE MEMBERS THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE THAT BOARD. SO IF COUNCIL IS AMENABLE, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THE ALTERNATE MEMBER, REBECCA WILSON, AND APPOINT HER TO PLACE ONE ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. THAT'S A GREAT IDEA. GREAT. SO TO MAKE A MOTION, I MOVE TO APPOINT REBECCA WILSON TO PLACE ONE ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION. SECOND.
SECOND. OKAY. TRACY, CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER
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WERNER? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR? AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN? AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHIESTLE? AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? AYE. OKAY. THAT CHANGE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER MOTION? YES. I HAVE A SUGGESTION. I'D LIKE TO GET TRACY'S FEEDBACK ON THIS. SO THERE'S A FORMER COMMISSIONER WHO REACHED OUT TO US IN SEPTEMBER. WE REPLACED HER ON THE CDC BOARD. SHE WAS DISAPPOINTED. SENT US AN EMAIL.I TALKED TO HER AT THE BOARD AND COMMISSION BANQUET. YOU MAY HAVE TALKED TO HER, TOO.
HER NAME'S ALLISON MARANTA. I DON'T THINK WE DROPPED HER FOR ANY REASON OTHER THAN IT WAS THE END OF HER TERM, AND WE HAD A LOT OF GREAT APPLICANTS, AND WE NEEDED TO FIND SOME SPOTS FOR THEM. I EMAILED HER AND SAID, ALLISON, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN TAKING THIS POSITION TO GET BACK ON A BOARD? THEN IN THE FALL, WE CAN DETERMINE IF THIS IS THE BEST FIT OR IF MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER BOARD THAT WOULD BE A BETTER FIT, AND SHE SAID, I ABSOLUTELY 100% AM VERY EAGER TO GET ON A BOARD. SO IF COUNCIL'S OPEN TO THE IDEA, I ASKED THE CHAIR OF THE ARTS COMMISSION. SHE WAS FINE WITH IT. SHE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PERSON SHE WAS LOOKING TO PUT ONTO THAT, SO SHE WAS OKAY WITH THE COUNCIL MAKING THIS CALL.
GREAT IDEA. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MOVE TO APPOINT ALLISON MARANTA TO ALTERNATE PLACE EIGHT,
[L. CLOSED MEETING ]
I BELIEVE IT IS, ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.SECOND. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE ROLL? COUNCILMEMBER DREW? AYE.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHEESTAL? AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN? AYE. COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR? AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARNER? AYE. OKAY. THAT CHANGE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. THE TIME IS NOW 936, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL CONVENE INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTION 071, 072, 074, AND 087. GOOD
[M. RECONVENE ]
EVENING, FLOWER MOUND. THE TIME IS NOW 1105, AND WE'RE RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN SESSION AS A RESULT OF THE CLOSED SESSION.THERE IS NO MOTION THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE, SO AT THE SAME TIME, NOW 1105, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.