Jan 05, 2026 Town Council Archive

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I DON'T NEED TO USE THE GAVEL. GOOD EVENING. FLOWER MOUND.

[A. CALL TO ORDER ]

THIS EVENING WE'RE GOING TO FOLLOW A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENT ORDER.

BUT BEFORE WE GET STARTED TONIGHT, I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HONOR THE MEMORY AND LEGACY OF A FLOWER MOUND POLICE LIEUTENANT SUZANNE REED. SHE DIED OVER THE WEEKEND FOLLOWING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY WHILE OFF DUTY.

LIEUTENANT REED BEGAN SERVING OUR COMMUNITY IN 2006 AS A PATROL OFFICER.

THROUGHOUT HER TENURE, SHE HELD NUMEROUS NUMEROUS ROLES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO MENTAL HEALTH, PEACE OFFICER, CRISIS NEGOTIATOR, TEAM LEADER, DETECTIVE, AND PATROL SERGEANT AND LIEUTENANT, BEFORE ACCEPTING HER MOST RECENT ASSIGNMENT AS THE SUPPORT SERVICES LIEUTENANT.

LIEUTENANT REED. REED WAS A KEY FIGURE WITHIN THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SPEARHEADED THE 30 BY 30 INITIATIVE, WHICH SEEKS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF FEMALE OFFICERS WITHIN THE RANKS OF THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SHE WAS A HIGHLY RESPECTED OFFICER. SHE WAS TWICE AWARDED THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT OFFICER OF THE YEAR.

IN 2014, SHE RECEIVED THE STATE OF TEXAS SENATE AWARD IN RECOGNITION OF HER OUTSTANDING SERVICE.

SHE SERVED OUR COMMUNITY WITH THE HIGHEST LEVEL OF INTEGRITY AND DEDICATION, AND WILL BE DEEPLY MISSED BY HER BROTHERS AND SISTERS AT THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT. HER COLLEAGUES ACROSS TOWN, AND THE MANY COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHOSE LIVES SHE'S TOUCHED THROUGHOUT HER CAREER HERE IN THE TOWN.

LIEUTENANT REED'S LEGACY WILL CONTINUE TO LIVE ON THROUGH HER LOVING WIFE JILL, AND THE COUNTLESS INDIVIDUALS SHE HAS IMPACTED.

IN HONOR OF HER LIFE OF SERVICE, I AM REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND FLAG BE FLOWN AT HALF STAFF UNTIL SHE IS LAID TO REST. THE FLAGS WILL BE RETURNED TO FULL STAFF AT THE END OF THE DAY ON FRIDAY, JANUARY 8TH.

NOW PLEASE JOIN US IN A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN HONOR OF LIEUTENANT SUZANNE REED.

THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING AND PAYING RESPECTS TO HER AND THE FAMILY.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR INVOCATION. CHAPLAINS SPEIGHT IS HERE TO GIVE OUR INVOCATION.

AND PLEASE STAND AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES AFTER THAT.

THANK YOU. AND PLEASE JOIN ME IN PRAYER. OUR HEAVENLY FATHER, WE THANK YOU THAT YOU ARE OUR LOVING GOD, AND WE THANK YOU NOW, IN REMEMBRANCE OF THIS 1 WHO HAS FAITHFULLY SERVED THE COMMUNITY IN SUCH A DILIGENT WAY, AND LEAVING A LEGACY OF OF LOVE AND DILIGENT SERVICE THAT SHE HAS PROVIDED FOR THE TOWN OF THAT THAT SHE SERVED FOR SO LONG.

AND WE JUST COMMIT THOSE THAT HAVE SERVED ALONGSIDE HER THAT THEY WOULD HAVE THE PEACE AND THE FAMILY.

HER FAMILY WOULD HAVE THE PEACE THAT THEY NEED AND THAT ONLY CAN COME FROM YOU.

SO WE COMMIT TO FAMILY TO YOU IN REMEMBRANCE OF HER.

THANK YOU, FATHER, FOR BRINGING US THROUGH ANOTHER YEAR.

AND YET NOW WE ARE MOVING INTO A NEW YEAR OF THE UNKNOWN.

AND WE PRAY ESPECIALLY FOR WISDOM FOR THOSE WHO SERVE NOT ONLY IN THE TOWN COUNCIL, BUT IN VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE CITY.

AND WE PRAY, FATHER, THAT THE THE TOWN COUNCIL WILL NOT ONLY HAVE YOUR WISDOM FOR THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE THIS YEAR, BUT ALL THOSE WHO ARE SERVING IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

WE REMEMBER ALL OF OUR 1ST RESPONDERS. WE THANK YOU FOR THE WAY THAT THEY GIVE OF THEIR SERVICE TO YOU AND TO THE CITIZENS OF THIS COMMUNITY.

SO WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM AGAIN, FOR EVERYTHING THAT IS SAID AND DONE IN THESE MEETINGS, THAT YOU WOULD GIVE WISDOM TO THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THE DECISIONS THAT WE CAN DEPEND ON YOU FOR YOUR DAILY WISDOM WE SO DESPERATELY NEED.

AND WE THANK YOU IN CHRIST'S NAME. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

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HONOR OUR FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS.

ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU.

CHAPLAIN. OKAY, LIKE I SAID, WE LIKE I SAID WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A DIFFERENT ORDER TONIGHT.

[D. CLOSED MEETING]

WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION. THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF OUR CLOSED SESSION THAT WE JUST HAD.

THE TIME IS NOW 6:02. SO WE WILL JUST RESUME WHERE WE LEFT OFF, WHICH IS AT PUBLIC COMMENT.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]

IF YOU HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT YOU WISH TO MAKE TONIGHT, YOU CAN FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD.

AND YOU WILL HAVE TIME TO SPEAK. YOU WILL HAVE 3 MINUTES.

WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT, THE TIMER WILL LET YOU KNOW, BUT YOU STILL HAVE 30S.

SO THE 1ST PERSON WE HAVE IS CLAIRE HARRIS. AND JUST SPEAK.

JUST SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN AND YOU CAN SAY WHAT TOWN YOU LIVE IN.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO GIVE YOUR ADDRESS. CLAIRE HARRIS FLOWER MOUND.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'D LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I WILL BE RUNNING FOR FLOWER MOUND TOWN COUNCIL PLACE 5 IN THE MAY 2ND ELECTION.

A GRADUATE OF FLOWER MOUND [APPLAUSE] 3 MINUTES.

PEOPLE GRADUATE OF FLOWER MOUND CITIZENS ACADEMY.

I'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO SERVE ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION, THE BLUE RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE, AND CURRENTLY SERVE AS A COMMISSIONER ON PLANNING AND ZONING. I HAVE SEEN AND BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENT WORKS BEST WHEN IT IS NONPARTIZAN, COMMUNITY FOCUSED AND GROUNDED IN LOCAL DECISIONS MADE BY LOCAL PEOPLE.

THIS HAS BEEN DEMONSTRATED BY OUR CURRENT MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

FLOWER MOUND HAS RECEIVED SOME IMPRESSIVE RECOGNITION.

MOST LIVABLE SMALL CITY, BEST PLACE TO LIVE, SAFEST SMALL CITY.

WE CAN'T TAKE THOSE HONORS FOR GRANTED AS WE CONTINUE TO GROW.

WE NEED TO PLAN STRATEGICALLY FOR ADDITIONAL TOWN SERVICES AND INFRASTRUCTURE USING SMART GROWTH AND OUR MASTER PLAN.

HOW WE GROW MATTERS. WHAT MAKES SENSE IN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE IN OTHER PARTS OF TOWN.

WE NEED TO SUPPORT OUR EXISTING OLDER NEIGHBORHOODS AND INFRASTRUCTURE, PRESERVE OUR UNIQUE NATURAL ASSETS.

THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT, OUR NATIVE TREE CANOPY AND THE HISTORIC MOUND ITSELF CONTINUE COMMUNITY FOCUSED ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH APPROPRIATE NEW COMMERCIAL PROJECTS AND SUPPORT FOR EXISTING BUSINESSES TO INCREASE OUR SALES TAX AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.

THESE FACTORS ARE CRUCIAL IN ALLOWING US TO CONTINUE THE HIGH QUALITY SERVICES OUR RESIDENTS ENJOY AND MAINTAIN THE TOWN'S OVERARCHING GOAL OF A SUPERIOR QUALITY OF LIFE IN FLOWER MOUND. WE ALSO NEED TO BE VIGILANT ABOUT PROTECTING LOCAL DECISION MAKING.

STATE LEGISLATION CAN IMPACT EVERYTHING FROM HOW WE BUDGET TO HOW WE ZONE AND RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT IS CRUCIAL.

OTHER LONG TERM ISSUES DESERVE ATTENTION INCLUDE AN EFFECTIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT AND PRACTICAL WATER CONSERVATION, ESPECIALLY WITH COMING DEVELOPMENTS, CONTINUED TRAFFIC PLANNING TO EASE CONGESTION AND KEEP OUR ROADS SAFE.

THE LONG TERM HEALTH OF OUR TOWN DEPENDS ON HOW WE MANAGE OUR NATURAL RESOURCES, HOW WE BALANCE DEVELOPMENT WITH PRESERVATION, AND THAT IS HOW WE ENSURE FLOWER MOUND REMAINS THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE.

FLOWER MOUND COMBINATION OF COMMUNITY, LOCATION, NATURE, BEAUTY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IS RARE.

AND MAINTAINING THAT WILL TAKE US ALL WORKING TOGETHER.

WE WON'T ALWAYS AGREE ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE CAN COMMIT TO LISTENING, BEING RESPECTFUL AND WORKING TOGETHER TOWARDS A SHARED GOAL OF A SAFE, THRIVING FLOWER MOUND FOR ALL RESIDENTS. CONTINUED SUCCESS REQUIRES CAREFUL PLANNING, THOUGHTFUL LEADERSHIP AND AN INVOLVED COMMUNITY. THE NEXT 3 YEARS WILL BRING CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES TOGETHER.

I BELIEVE WE CAN KEEP FLOWER MOUND NOT JUST A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE, BUT A BEST PLACE TO LIVE.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS HARRIS. WE HAVE SHARON GENTRY NEXT.

SHARON GENTRY. I WANTED TO SPEAK FOR CLAIRE HARRIS.

I HAVE KNOWN HER FOR A WHILE AND REALLY BELIEVE THAT SHE'S GOING TO BE A GREAT COUNCIL PERSON.

I HAD THE DISTINCT HONOR TO HAVE HER COME LOOK AT PROPERTY NEXT TO OURS THAT WAS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED. AND THE REASON IT'S SO GOOD WHEN SHE COMES IS BECAUSE SHE LOOKS AT EVERYTHING.

AND THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING THAT YOU WANT IN A COUNCIL PERSON.

AND WHAT SHE SAID WAS SHE LOOKED AT THE TREES.

SHE STOMPED AROUND IN THE AREA BECAUSE IT HAD NOT BEEN MOWED IN YEARS AND YEARS AND LOOKED AT EVERYTHING AND SAID SHE JUST COULDN'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD CUT DOWN ALL OF THE TREES IN ORDER TO PUT THAT IN.

SO IN THE END, SHE VOTED AGAINST IT ON P&Z. AND I APPRECIATED THAT.

AND I THINK SHE'LL MAKE A GREAT COUNCIL PERSON.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS GENTRY.

ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE CLAYTON YORK. CLAYTON, YORK.

YOUR TURN IS UP. OKAY, I'M GOING TO MOVE ON. IF CLAYTON IS NOT HERE. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LANDRY. I CAN'T READ THAT. POLY POLY. POLY POLY.

RIGHT HERE. YEAH. JUST STATE YOUR NAME AGAIN.

AND THEN THE TOWN THAT YOU LIVE IN. MY NAME IS LANDRY POLY, AND I LIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.

YOU HAVE 3 MINUTES TO SPEAK. ALL RIGHT, WELL, THIS SHOULDN'T BE LONG.

I GUESS THIS IS JUST SORT OF YOU KNOW, FOR ME, MORE SO A CONFIDENCE BUILDER, RIGHT? BECAUSE I'M WORKING WITH SOME PEOPLE, THEY MIGHT DO SOME CRAZY THINGS. I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WANTED TO SIGN UP TO GIVE MYSELF A CHANCE. I'M FROM LEWISVILLE, TEXAS, AND JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I APPRECIATE THE THE LAWNS BEING MOWED, BECAUSE AS A MODERN MAN ON THE LAND, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WALK ON THE LAND.

THAT'S ALL I GOT. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE ALEX STEIN.

HELLO. ESTEEMED COUNCIL OF FLOWER MOUND. I'M HERE.

IT'S A SAD SITUATION. WHAT'S GOING ON? I JUST WANT TO START OFF WITH A MOMENT OF SILENCE.

1 OF MY BEST FRIENDS, NICK. HE'S A FAMOUS YOUTUBER AND HE'S A LEGAL EXPERT.

HE. I'LL BE HONEST. HIM AND I HAVE. WE HAVE A WILD PAST.

I MEAN, HE GOT ARRESTED WITH 28G OF COCAINE, AND HIS KID ALSO HAD A POSITIVE DRUG TEST FOR COCAINE.

AND IT WAS A REALLY SAD SITUATION. NICK AND I LOVE NICK, BUT HE WAS ON VACATION AND HIS DOG RECENTLY GOT INTO A TOXIC SUBSTANCE AND DIED.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO HONOR SONNY, HIS DOG THAT DIED.

SO. OKAY, NOW TO BUSINESS CITY. BUSINESS FLO, MO.

EVERYBODY KNOWS WE LOVE FLOWER MOUND, I LOVE FLOWER MOUND I LIVE HERE, I GRIND HERE, AND JAN, YOU KNOW, I'LL BE HONEST. LIKE, ARE YOU A COOL MAYOR CHERYL? LIKE ONE OF THOSE. MATTER OF OPINION? WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, LIKE, DO YOU LIKE TO PARTY? I'M NOT ANSWERING THAT.

WELL, I'LL TELL YOU THIS MUCH. ROB FORD LIKE TO PARTY.

MARION BARRY LIKE TO PARTY. AND THEY WERE GREAT MAYORS.

WHAT DID THEY HAVE IN COMMON? THEY LOVE TO DO A LITTLE BOOGER SUGAR.

AND YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING TO HOLD THAT AGAINST THEM? BECAUSE THEY LIKE TO SNIFF A LITTLE POWDER. OOH, LIKE IT'S A BIG DEAL. BUT LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. IT IS A BIG DEAL.

BECAUSE EVER SINCE THAT JERK DONALD TRUMP ARRESTED NICOLAS MADURO, I CAN'T FIND COCAINE IN THIS CITY TO SAVE MY LIFE.

AND IF I DO GET A GUY ON THE PHONE, I GET THE DRUG DEALER ON THE PHONE.

I'M LIKE, IVAN, I NEED AN 8 BALL. YOU'RE SO MUCH AN 8 BALL COST.

NOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH AN EIGHT BALL COST? CHERYL, A LOT OF MONEY NOW.

ALL BECAUSE NICOLAS MADURO. SO I'M JUST SICK AND TIRED.

THEY'RE SAYING, OH, IT'S A DRUG WAR. WE'RE TRYING TO STOP DRUGS. THEN WHY DID THE CIA GET CAUGHT FLYING IN COCAINE TO MENA,

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AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IF THIS IS ABOUT DRUGS, THEN WHY DID WE USE AMERICAN TROOPS TO PROTECT THE POPPY FIELDS IN AFGHANISTAN? SO I THINK THERE'S A DOUBLE STANDARD. AND THE CIA HAS BEEN CAUGHT SELLING DRUGS.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T JUST FIND FREAKING CHEAP COCAINE ANYMORE.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, I'M SICK OF DONALD TRUMP OUTLAWING MY ABILITY TO ACCESS COCAINE IN THIS FREAKING CITY BECAUSE FLOW MO HE'S GOT THE BEST BLOW FLOW MO HAS GOT THE BEST BLOW. BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I JUST WANT TO SAY, FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SEEKING ASYLUM OUT OF VENEZUELA, ALL BIG BOOTY LATINAS ARE WELCOME AT MY PLACE.

ALL BIG BOOTY LATINAS. IF YOU'RE A 9, YOU'RE FINE.

IF YOU'RE A BIG BOOTY LATINA, YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME STAY AT MY HOUSE. YOU'RE NOT LATINA, BUT YOU CAN COME IF YOU WANT. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THIS.

FUCK THE POLICE. COMING STRAIGHT OUT THE UNDERGROUND.

A YOUNG BROTHER GOT HIS BAG BECAUSE I'M BROWN.

POLICE THINK THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO KILL A MINORITY.

F THAT SHIT, BECAUSE I AIN'T THE ONE WITH A PUNK MOTHERFUCKER WITH A BADGE AND A GUN TO BE BEATING ON AND THROWN IN JAIL.

WE CAN GO TOE TO TOE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CELL.

MR. WITH ME BECAUSE I'M A TEENAGER WITH A LITTLE BIT OF GOLD AND A PAGER IN MY CAR LOOKING FOR THE PRODUCT, THINKING EVERY NEGRO IS SELLING NARCOTICS. YOU RATHER SEE ME IN THE PEN THAN ME [INAUDIBLE] OH, THANK YOU, MR. STEIN. THANK YOU. SHOUT OUT TO SUNNY.

ALL BIG BOOTY LATINAS ARE WELCOME. OKAY, WE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, I BELIEVE.

TRACY, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY MORE PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS, RIGHT? OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK? OKAY. SCOTT LANGLEY YOU HAVE TO FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD AFTER.

SCOTT LANGLEY. SORRY. I'M USED TO SAYING MY ADDRESS.

SCOTT LANGLEY, TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. THERE YOU GO.

AND I CAME DOWN HERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT I WAS GOING TO RUN FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT.

AND THEN I SHOWED UP, AND I SAW ALL THESE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE SUPPORTING CLAIRE.

SO I'VE CHANGED MY MIND. I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.

I'M JOKING. I WASN'T GOING TO. BUT I DO WANT TO SUPPORT.

I WANT TO SHOW THAT I SUPPORT CLAIRE. SHE'S BEEN ON.

SHE'S BEEN A VERY VALUABLE MEMBER OF PLANNING AND ZONING.

SHE'S BEEN A GOOD FRIEND. SHE'LL MAKE A, YOU KNOW, REALLY WISE AND INFORMED DECISIONS.

SHE'S VERY STUDIOUS. SHE WILL DO THE HOMEWORK.

SHE WILL DO WHAT'S BEST FOR FLOWER MOUND. AND I'M PROUD TO SUPPORT HER.

SO GO, CLAIRE.[APPLAUSE] ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. AND OUR OTHER SPEAKER DID NOT SHOW UP, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS ]

HOPEFULLY YOU HAD A WONDERFUL HOLIDAY. AND I WANT TO INVITE YOU PERSONALLY TO THE FRIENDS OF THE FLOWER MOUND LIBRARY USED BOOK SALE.

OUR EARLY BIRD SALE IS FRIDAY, JANUARY 16TH FROM 5 TILL 7 $5 ADMISSION AND THEN THE REGULAR HOURS OF THE LIBRARY ON THE 17TH AND ON THE 18TH UNTIL 4:00 PM.

SO HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE THERE. AND THEN ALSO WE ARE SPONSORING THE TASTE OF FLOWER MOUND ON FEBRUARY 6TH, SO TICKETS ARE AVAILABLE. YOU CAN GO ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? I HAD SOMETHING, YES. THANK YOU.

THE FLOWER MOUND NEW CENTURY LIONS CLUB IS HAVING A FUNDRAISER, AND IT'S TAKING PLACE AT THE XCITE GYM AND CHEER.

AND THAT'S FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 6TH. ALSO, IT'S FROM 6 TO 9 AND YOU CAN COME ALSO AFTER THE TASTE OF FLOWER MOUND.

ALSO IT SHOULD BE A REALLY FUN EVENING. WE'VE GOT 50.

IT WILL BE A SOCK HOP THEME. 50 FAVORITES. WHAT GOT ME IS THE BURGERS, MILKSHAKES AND PIE MEAL THAT COMES WITH YOUR TICKET.

DANCING GAMES, A SILENT AUCTION AN ELVIS IMPERSONATOR.

AND THIS IS A LIONS CLUB FUNDRAISER FOR THE YEAR.

AND IT'S TO SUPPORT LOCAL CHARITABLE OR CHARITABLE CAUSES.

AND THEN ESPECIALLY OUR VISION AND INITIATIVES.

SO COME OUT IF YOU CAN, AND YOU CAN EMAIL ME IF YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION.

HOPEFULLY YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF OUR FACEBOOK SOCIAL MEDIA ADS ALSO.

OKAY. DOES ANY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE ANYTHING? OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

JAMES. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING THIS EVENING.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE WISH TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE AGENDA.

OKAY. FOR OUR COORDINATION OF CALENDARS. EXCUSE ME.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

JANUARY 19TH IS MARTIN LUTHER KING DAY. SO THAT IS A HOLIDAY.

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I'LL BE AWAY ON THE JANUARY 20TH MEETING. UNABLE TO ATTEND.

THAT'S OKAY. YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE ON BUSINESS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

SECOND. OKAY. TRACY. COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. AYE.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN, A COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR, A COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER A ALL CONSENT ITEMS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. ALL RIGHT, WE WILL MOVE STRAIGHT ON TO OUR WORK SESSION.

[K. WORK SESSION ITEM]

EXCUSE ME.

WOW. YOU CLEARED THE ROOM? YEAH. IT'S OKAY. NO, NO, NO IT'S NOT.

YOU SAID THEY'RE GOING TO TALK MATH, AND IT JUST ALL RIGHT.

GIVE EVERYONE A SECOND TO FILTER OUT.

ALRIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK AFTER THE START OF A NEW YEAR.

SO HERE I AM TODAY. HERE TODAY, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE COST RECOVERY POLICY AND AS ATTACHED TO THIS AGENDA.

YOU SAW A DRAFT OF A COST RECOVERY POLICY. THIS IS ACTUALLY MIRRORED AFTER THE ONE THAT THE CITY OF PLANO USED.

AND SO WE SEND A NUMBER OF OUR EMPLOYEES TO LEADERSHIP TRAINING ACROSS DFW, AND 1 OF THEM BROUGHT THIS BACK AS A GOOD IDEA.

AND SO THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE RUNNING WITH THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT PROVIDES A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT BENEFITS. SO LET'S START AT THE TOP OF WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? A COST COST RECOVERY POLICY IS A FRAMEWORK FOR RECUPERATING THE APPROPRIATE COST ASSOCIATED WITH PROVIDING PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.

A SOUND AND CONSISTENT POLICY SERVES AS A MANAGEMENT TOOL FOR ESTABLISHING AND IMPLEMENTING AND EVALUATING VARIOUS FEES AND REVENUE OPTIONS.

SO THIS IS BUILT WORD FOR WORD IS THE FIRST PARAGRAPH OF THE POLICY.

AND SO THIS OFFERS US A STRUCTURE FOR SETTING REVENUES AND A LEGALLY DEFENSIBLE FRAMEWORK.

AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT LATER. SO THE BIGGEST QUESTION IN COST RECOVERY IS WHO IS THE BENEFICIARY OF A PROGRAM OR SERVICE.

IS IT THE INDIVIDUAL OR OR AND IS IT THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT YOU REALLY HAVE TO ASK WHENEVER WE'RE MEASURING THIS.

AND SO I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP THIS AS SIMPLISTIC AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE THERE'S A NUMBER OF ROADS YOU CAN GO DOWN ON.

THIS IS THERE'S DIFFERENT IDEAS. THERE'S DIFFERENT METRICS.

THERE'S DIFFERENT ANALYSIS TOOLS THAT YOU CAN DO. BUT IN ESSENCE, THIS IS WHAT COST RECOVERY COMES BACK DOWN TO IS WHO'S THE BENEFICIARY OF THE PROGRAM OR SERVICE. AND SO WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR IT. SO IF ANY OF YOU WERE FORTUNATE TO TAKE AN MACROECONOMICS CLASS IN COLLEGE, WE'RE GOING TO GO OVER JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOW IT'S PRIVATE AND PUBLIC GOODS.

SO ON HERE WE'VE GOT 4 DIFFERENT TYPE OF GOODS, PRIVATE GOODS, COMMON RESOURCES, CLUB GOODS AND PUBLIC GOODS.

SO THE 2 THAT WE'RE MAINLY CONCERNED WITH AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS PRIVATE AND PUBLIC GOODS.

SO A PRIVATE GOOD IS SOMETHING THAT IS EXCLUDABLE AND RIVALROUS.

IT'S A FUN ECONOMIC TERM. EARN. THAT JUST MEANS THAT ONE PERSON USING A RESOURCE DOESN'T INHIBIT ANOTHER PERSON FROM USING IT.

EXCLUDABLE OR EXCLUDABILITY HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER YOU CAN LIMIT SOMEONE'S ACCESS TO SOMETHING.

AND SO IT PROVIDES YOU A COUPLE IDEAS. ICE CREAM CHEESE HOUSES CARS.

SO IT HAS CLEARLY DEFINED OWNERSHIP. AND THE USE OF IT DOES NOT EXCLUDE CAN BASICALLY EXCLUDE SOMEONE ELSE FROM USING IT.

AND SO THOSE ARE EASILY DEFINED PRIVATE GOODS.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT BUSINESSES PROVIDE. AND IT'S EASY TO DO SO.

PUBLIC GOODS ARE ONES THAT ARE NOT EASILY EXCLUDABLE AND ARE NOT RIVALROUS.

SO FRESH AIR, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN LIMIT THAT, KNOWLEDGE, NATIONAL DEFENSE.

THESE ARE GOOD ONES. PUBLIC SAFETY IS ANOTHER GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

AND SO KNOWLEDGE KIND OF FALLS UNDER LIBRARY SERVICES AND DIFFERENT THINGS.

I'LL MENTION THE OTHER 2 AND WHAT THEY ARE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME GOOD EXAMPLES. SO COMMON RESOURCES THIS IS MOST LIKELY REFERRED TO IN THINGS WITH FRESHWATER, TIMBER PASTURES. THE BIGGEST THING PEOPLE WORRY ABOUT WITH THESE IS THE TRAGEDY OF THE COMMONS,

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AND BECAUSE BASICALLY, ONCE IT'S GONE, IT'S GONE.

AND SO THIS CAN BE DEVELOPABLE LANDS, THIS CAN BE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

THESE ARE GOODS THAT BASICALLY ARE EXHAUSTIBLE CLUB GOODS.

SO THESE ARE ALSO CALLED TOLL GOODS. AND THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU CAN LIMIT ACCESS TO.

BUT IT MEANS THAT SOMEONE CAN USE IT AND IT DOESN'T HURT SOMEBODY ELSE.

SO GOOD EXAMPLE IS CABLE TELEVISION, CINEMAS, WI-FI, TOLL ROADS, ALL OF THESE THINGS YOU CAN LIMIT ACCESS TO.

BUT SOMEONE USING IT DOESN'T INHIBIT THE NEXT PERSON FROM USING IT. AND SO WHEN SOMETHING'S MOVING AROUND IN THESE SPHERES OF WHAT TYPE OF GOOD IT IS, THAT'S GOING TO HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW WE SHOULD CHARGE FOR IT.

SO STUDYING THE COST RECOVERY TARGETS. SO THE THIS POLICY BREAKS IT DOWN INTO 5 DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO YOU HAVE TIER1 WHICH IS PRIMARILY COMMUNITY BENEFIT.

THIS WOULD BE THE MOST PUREST OF PUBLIC GOODS.

SO BASIC CITY SERVICES HEALTH AND SAFETY. WHAT ARE THE CORE THINGS THAT WE PROVIDE THAT WE REALLY CAN'T EXCLUDE SERVICES ON.

AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO TIER 5, WHICH THE PRIMARY IS THE INDIVIDUAL WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS.

AND IT'S A PROGRAM AND IT'S A DISCRETIONARY PROGRAM OR SERVICE.

THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE PUBLIC AS A WHOLE, BUT THE INDIVIDUALS, THE PRIMARY BENEFICIARY.

AND SO THIS IS ALL TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC GOODS.

AND SO IF WE VEER PAST THIS AND WE GET TO A POINT WHERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE GOODS, THEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THINGS LIKE 100% COST RECOVERY.

AND SO DIFFERENCES IN BETWEEN THESE TIER 2 IS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERABLE COMMUNITY SOURCES SOME INDIVIDUAL BENEFITS.

THEN TIER 3, A BALANCE OF COMMUNITY AND INDIVIDUAL BENEFITS.

TIER 4. CONSIDERABLE INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT WITH SOME COMMUNITY BENEFITS.

ALL OF THESE HELP US SET KIND OF WHERE THE REVENUE TARGET SHOULD BE.

SO THIS TELLS US HOW MUCH WE SHOULD REALLY RECUPERATE IN COST.

AND SO WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN EXPECT IS, YOU KNOW, TIER 1 PROGRAMS THAT YOU GUYS SET.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO GET TO VERY LITTLE SUPPORT.

THERE'S NOT AN EASY WAY OF STOPPING THIS. A GOOD EXAMPLE OF SOMETHING LIKE THIS MIGHT BE ANIMAL CONTROL.

ANIMAL CONTROL MIGHT FALL INTO THE TIER 1 BENEFIT THEY HAD.

ABOUT THE ONLY WAY THAT YOU CAN COLLECT MONEY WITH ANIMAL CONTROL IS EITHER DONATIONS OR IF YOU'RE CHARGING IMPOUND FEES.

BUT AN IMPOUND FEE COULD REALLY NEVER COVER THE ENTIRE COST OF ANIMAL CONTROL OPERATIONS.

AND SO YOU RECOVER WHAT YOU CAN. SO ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOME TAX AND FEE SUPPORTED.

THAT'S WHERE MOST THINGS FALL. AND THEN SOME THINGS ARE HEAVILY FEE SUPPORTED.

1 THING I'LL MENTION TO YOU GUYS IS THE CAC IS HEAVILY FEE SUPPORTED.

SO OUR SWIM TEAM PROGRAMS, OUR TENNIS PROGRAMS, THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, WE ARE CLOSE TO 100% COST RECOVERY.

I WILL TELL YOU, ALL OF THIS EXCLUDES CAPITAL COST BECAUSE CAPITAL COSTS, ONCE WE GET INTO 100% TRUE COST RECOVERY, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE GOODS. AND WE SHOULD REALLY BE TALKING ABOUT WHETHER WE SHOULD PRIVATIZE THAT GOOD AT THAT POINT. AND SO IF WE ARE GOING TO COMPETE WITH THE PRIVATE SECTOR, WE NEED TO ASK, IS THAT AN EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES? WHY IS THIS IMPORTANT? SO WHY COST RECOVERY POLICY, REVENUE SETTING AND UNLAWFUL TAXES IN TEXAS? A FEE BECOMES AN UNLAWFUL TAX WHEN IT EXCEEDS THE ACTUAL COST OF PROVIDING A SERVICE OR REGULATING AN ACTIVITY FUNCTIONS MORE AS A REVENUE GENERATOR, LIKE A PROFIT CENTER, OR RATHER THAN A COST RECOVERY, OR ISN'T TIED TO A SPECIFIC SERVICE, BUT RATHER A REVENUE STREAM, MAKING IT AN UNCONSTITUTIONAL REVENUE RAISING MEASURE OR OCCUPANCY TAX.

WHY THIS IS BECOMING IMPORTANT IS BECAUSE THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE IS MORE AND MORE STARTING TO LIMIT HOW WE CAN CHARGE REVENUES.

YOU CAN SEE IT THROUGH IMPACT FEES. YOU CAN SEE IT THROUGH HOW WE CHARGE LICENSE AND PERMITS.

YOU USED TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE BUILDING PERMITS BASED ON THE COST OF A HOUSE THAT WAS BEING BUILT, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING LEGALLY ALLOWABLE NOW.

AND SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS WHICH THEY HAVE STARTED LIMITING THESE RESOURCES AND HAVE MADE IT UNCONSTITUTIONAL, EVEN SET. AND SO WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE CANNOT ARBITRARILY SET THESE.

THAT'S WHY I'LL TRY TO KEEP THIS ENTIRE EXERCISE AT A HIGH LEVEL OF THIS SERVICE, NOT SPECIFICALLY THIS REVENUE SOURCE OR WHERE DO WE THINK IT SHOULD FALL ON THIS SCALE? SO TO WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN NEXT, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A SURVEY.

IT IS NOT A VERY LONG SURVEY. WE DON'T HAVE THAT MANY KIND OF THINGS.

BUT LIKE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS A, A ENTITY AS A WHOLE.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER ALL THEIR DIFFERENT TYPE OF REVENUE STREAMS. I'M GOING TO MENTION THAT SPECIFIC SERVICE. AND WHAT CATEGORY DO YOU FEEL IT SHOULD FALL IN. THEN I'M GOING TO TAKE AND COMPILE ALL OF THAT, AND I'M GOING TO GO AND BRING YOU BACK AN ANALYSIS AND COMPARISON AND SAY, HERE'S WHERE YOU SAY THAT WE BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE, AND HERE'S WHERE WE ARE.

AND IN SOME WAYS, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FIND THAT WE EITHER RECOVER MORE REVENUE THAN YOU THINK. I THINK WE SHOULD, OR EVEN SOMETIMES LESS. AND SO I THINK THIS ANALYSIS WILL BE HELPFUL. AND THIS ANALYSIS WE'RE GOING TO RUN EACH AND EVERY YEAR AND ENSURE THAT WE'RE ON TARGET WITH IT.

AND SO I'LL BRING YOU BACK AND SAY WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPLICATION OF INCREASING THIS REVENUE SOURCE OR WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE TO THE PUBLIC.

WHERE WOULD YOU SEE THIS? WHAT COULD YOU AVERAGE EXPECT OF THAT?

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AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN UPDATE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS ONCE WE QUANTIFY IT.

AND THEN LASTLY, I'LL BRING THAT FORWARD FOR REVIEW SO THAT YOU CAN SAY WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO? HOW DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND WHEN DO YOU WANT TO SET THESE NEXT REVENUE SOURCES? AND HERE'S WHAT THE INCREASES WOULD BE IN THE EFFECT TO THE PUBLIC. THERE IS A CHANCE THAT WE CAN GET THIS IN AT MID-YEAR, OR WE COULD STRETCH IT INTO THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR AND START IT ON THE CHANGE OF THE FISCAL YEAR.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL, THAT WAS A VERY QUICK PRESENTATION, BUT I'M TRYING TO KEEP IT SIMPLISTIC.

ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. WELL, LET'S GO TO SLIDE 6.

AND LOOK AT THAT CHART SOME MORE. I MEAN, I THINK THE CONCEPT IS REALLY GREAT.

IT'S LIKE WE DON'T HAVE TO ARGUE ABOUT HOW MUCH COST RECOVERY WE SHOULD DO FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.

WE JUST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH ONE OF THESE SLOTS IT FITS INTO.

AND THEN IT KIND OF TAKES CARE OF ITSELF, RIGHT? IT JUST GETS WHATEVER THE AMOUNT OF RECOVERY THAT IS SLOTTED FOR, HOWEVER MUCH PER COMMUNITY VERSUS INDIVIDUAL BENEFIT THERE IS.

SO FROM A CAPITAL PERSPECTIVE. SO IF WE'RE PLOWING $70 MILLION INTO THE CAC IS IT YOU'RE SAYING IT WILL BE POSSIBLE FOR US TO SAY, OKAY, THE COST PER USER OR SOME WAY OF ESTIMATING THE COST, EVEN WHEN YOU FACTOR IN THESE ONCE IN A WHILE REFRESHER COURSE, WE'LL HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MUCH THE TAXPAYERS ARE SUBSIDIZING, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE ONLY REALLY LOOKING AT RECOVERING THE OPERATIONAL COST FOR THAT.

YES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PUT TOTAL COST OF SOMETHING. AND SO WE'VE ACTUALLY DONE THIS ANALYSIS ON SEVERAL DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WHENEVER THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT CONSTRUCTING THE CAC, THEY ACTUALLY DID A PRETTY THOROUGH, IN-DEPTH 1. AND THERE'S A NUMBER 1 BUILDING PERMITS AND THEY'VE DONE IT WITH A NUMBER OF OTHER REVENUE SOURCES. AND THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT THIS STUFF ANNUALLY. THIS WILL JUST BRING IT INTO A FULL, COMPREHENSIVE OVERVIEW. AND SO, YES, WE'LL BE ABLE TO QUANTIFY THOSE THINGS. AND YOU CAN SAY, HEY, IF YOU INCLUDED CAPITAL, WHAT WOULD THE IMPACT HAVE BEEN OR HOW MUCH WOULD YOU HAVE TO RAISE FEES TO DO. SO. DO YOU HAVE OKAY, SO YOU MENTIONED IN TIER ONE YOU'VE GOT ANIMAL CONTROL MAYBE LIKE AMBULANCE SERVICE.

WOULD THAT BE LIKE A TIER 1. BECAUSE WE DO CHARGE A LITTLE BIT.

RIGHT. AMBULANCE SERVICES GETS CLOSE BETWEEN TIER 4 AND 5 AMBULANCE AMBULANCE SERVICES.

SO YEAH EMS SERVICES IS IN PARTICULAR. SO IF YOU QUANTIFY FIRE SERVICE, IT DOES NOT.

OR IF YOU TRY TO START CALCULATING HEAVY OVERHEAD OR EVEN ADDITIONAL CAPITAL COSTS, THAT'S WHEN THOSE THINGS GET A LITTLE BIT MORE I SEE.

BUT WHEN I COMPARED THE DEPARTMENTAL OBJECT CODE SPECIFICALLY FOR EMS COMPARED TO THE REVENUE SOURCES, IS IT WAS CLOSE TO 100% COST RECOVERY. WOULD LIKE INDEPENDENCE FEST FALL INTO ONE OF THESE BECAUSE WE DO SOME RECOVERY RIGHT THROUGH SALES AND VENDORS AND ALL THAT.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SPECIAL EVENTS AND SPECIFICALLY THAT CATEGORY, RIGHT.

SO I HAVE TO HAVE A WAY TO BASICALLY DICE OUT THOSE EXPENSES AND SEPARATE THEM OUT.

OVERALL, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ACTUALLY A PART OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHAT EACH ONE OF THESE TIERS REPRESENTS. I DON'T KNOW IF PLANO HAS ANYTHING LIKE THAT, DO THEY? THAT ONE HAS SPONSORSHIPS TOO. YEAH, YEAH. SO IT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE WHERE THE MONEY COMES FROM.

SO WHEN IT WHEN IT SAYS TAX SUPPORTED 0 TO 10%.

WHATEVER THE BUDGET IT IS IT HAS TO BE 100% PAID FOR.

RIGHT. THE RECOVERY IS 0 TO 10%. RIGHT. YEAH.

FROM OUR FEES. BUT DO THE FEES ALSO INCLUDE NOT JUST END USERS BUT VENDORS WHO ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SERVICES WE DELIVER? SO IF WE HAVE A REVENUE SOURCE AND WE'RE CAPTURING THAT REVENUE FROM THAT END USER, THEN YES, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT IF YOU COULD BREAK THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OF JUST SAY WE GET 90% COST RECOVERY ON SOMETHING OF THAT 90%.

HOW MUCH IS INDIVIDUAL USER FEES, HOW MUCH IS VENDORS? HOW MUCH IS SPONSORSHIP? HOW MUCH WOULD BE LIKE SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS? ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THAT? IT REALLY DEPENDS. SO THAT'S GOING TO GET GRANULAR DOWN TO SPECIFIC PROGRAM MS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

WHAT I CAN SHOW IS ALL ALL THE REVENUE SOURCES THAT WE BRING IN.

LIKE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, I CAN SHOW THE SENIOR CENTER REVENUES THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY MARKED OUT FOR THAT, AND THEN I CAN SHOW THE SENIOR CENTER EXPENSES, AND WE CAN COMPARE THOSE 2, UNLESS THERE IS A SEPARATE QUANTIFIABLE LINE THAT SHOWS, HEY, WE DETAIL LIKE THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FROM THIS END USER.

AND WE PUT THOSE INTO DIFFERENT REVENUE LINES. IT'S GOING TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE HARDER. THERE'S PROBABLY SOME BACK END REPORTS THAT CAN GET TO THAT HELPS US KIND OF IDENTIFY AND BREAK THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE. I HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE ASK ME PARTICULARLY IT WAS RELATED TO THE SENIOR CENTER AND THE VENDORS THERE, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME TALK ABOUT HAVING THE VENDORS PAY A FEE TO TEACH OR, YOU KNOW, EARN REVENUE ANCILLARY TO THE SENIOR CENTER. AND I THINK WE DO HAVE SOME STANDARDS FOR OTHER PLACES, LIKE THE TENNIS PROGRAM.

WE OUTSOURCE THAT. SO THERE MUST BE A POLICY.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT ON ALL OF OUR VENDORS, ACROSS ALL OF OUR SERVICES,

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SO YEAH, I'M LOOKING AT THOSE REVENUE REPORTS. I'M GOING BACK IN MY HEAD AND LOOKING OVER THOSE BECAUSE I LOOK AT THE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE DO TO THOSE.

SO YES, THERE'S A PERCENTAGE CHARGE FOR THE SERVICE. WE COLLECT A PERCENTAGE OF THAT. AND THEN THE VENDOR OR WE COLLECT A PERCENTAGE CHARGE OF THAT. SO THAT CHARGE THAT'S COLLECTED BY THE VENDOR IS PART OF THE EXPENSES. AND THEN THE REVENUE SOURCE THAT WE CHARGE THAT WE GET GOES TO OUR REVENUE SOURCES.

SO WE DON'T EVER COUNT THE MONEY THAT WE'RE GIVING TO THE VENDOR AS REVENUE THAT'S COMING TO US.

THAT'S USUALLY A LIABILITY PAID OUT IN AN EXPENSE.

AND SO IT'S QUANTIFIABLE. WE CAN SHOW IT TO ANYONE SPECIFIC FOR FEES LIKE THAT, BUT WE WOULDN'T QUOTE UNQUOTE SAY THAT IS REVENUE BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GO TO US AS LONG AS THEY HAVE SOME STAKE IN IT. YOU KNOW, THAT WE COLLECT A PORTION OF THAT AND KEEP A PORTION OF THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE BEING ALLOWED TO USE OUR FACILITIES. OUR REVENUE WOULD BE NET OF ANYTHING THEY MADE.

OKAY. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SHOW THAT TO ME AND I CAN FOLLOW YOU.

I BELIEVE I CAN BREAK SOME OF THAT STUFF OUT AND AND CHECK AND THEN WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE I THINK THEY STANDARDIZE HOW THOSE THINGS ARE CHARGED OR HOW MUCH IT BREAKS, BECAUSE SOME OF THAT IS PROBABLY BASED ON IT'S PROBABLY MORE EXPENSIVE FOR SOME TYPES OF WORKOUT SERVICES THAN OTHERS, AND SOME ARE MORE SPECIALTY LESSONS, LIKE, I'M GUESSING THEY PROBABLY CHARGE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR ADVANCED CLASSES THAN THEY DO WITH INTRODUCTORY SWIM CLASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT I THINK WE ALSO WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF POLICY THAT'S CONSISTENT ACROSS ALL OF OUR OPERATIONS.

SO THERE'S A RHYME OR REASON TO WHY SOMEONE WHO TEACHES TENNIS HAS TO, YOU KNOW, NET REVENUE LESS THAN WHAT THE PURCHASE PRICE IS VERSUS SOMEONE WHO'S TEACHING LIKE AN ART CLASS. I JUST WANT TO SEE CONSISTENCY AND HAVE THE PUBLIC BE ABLE TO REALLY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THE COST STRUCTURE.

OKAY. YES, THIS THIS IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE ADRIFT OF REVENUE POLICY.

I SEE HOW YOU THINK IT WOULD FALL INTO THIS, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER ON THE EXPENSE SIDE.

SO AND WHEN WE'RE THE LIABILITY SIDE BECAUSE WE'RE JUST COLLECTING MONEY FROM THE END USER, SOME OF THAT GOES TO REVENUE. THE OTHER GOES TO A LIABILITY THAT WE PAY THAT OUT. BUT IN GENERAL DOESN'T THAT SPEAK TO OUR COST RECOVERY.

IT DOES COST US MONEY EXPENSES. AND HOW DO WE RECOVER SOME OF WHAT WE SPEND.

THROUGH BASICALLY OUR NET PROCEEDS FROM THAT.

THAT IS HOW WE RECOVER THOSE THINGS. I GET THAT.

I MEAN, I WANT TO SEE IT SPECIFICALLY. I CAN SEE HOW WE CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN BREAK SOME OF THOSE THINGS. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YOU HAVE ANY.

I DON'T YOU ALL HAVE ANY. YOU GOOD. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN. I APPRECIATE IT. DID DID YOU NEED A DECISION ON WHEN WE WANTED TO DO THIS, THOUGH? NO. SO ONCE ONCE I SEND YOU THE SURVEY, I'LL KICK THAT OUT BEFORE THE END OF THE WEEK.

IF YOU GUYS GET THAT BACK TO ME. IT'LL TAKE ME ABOUT 3 TO 4 WEEKS TO TURN AROUND A FULL ANALYSIS ON THIS AND DIG IN AND KIND OF GET SOME OF THOSE EXTRA REPORTS AND THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND I THINK GIVEN THE STATE OF OUR FINANCES AND JUST THE ECONOMY IN GENERAL, SOONER WOULD BE BETTER THAN LATER. EVEN IF WE DECIDE TO STEP INTO IMPROVING OUR COST RECOVERY NUMBERS ON SOME THAT MAY BE UNDERREPRESENTED.

I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR.

I MEAN, THE NEXT. NEXT. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. TRACY FROM OUR TOWN

[L. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS]

THANK YOU. MAYOR. THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION.

A RESOLUTION NOMINATING ONE CANDIDATE TO FILL A VACANCY CREATED BY THE RESIGNATION OF ROB ALTMAN.

PLACE 5 ON THE DCAB BOARD OF DIRECTORS. TEXAS PROPERTY TAX.

I'M SORRY. TEXAS PROPERTY TAX CODE SECTION 6.0301F PROVIDES THAT A VACANCY SHALL BE APPOINTED MEMBER, THAT THE TAXING UNIT SHALL SUBMIT THE NAME OF ITS NOMINEE TO THE CHIEF APPRAISER.

THE CHIEF APPRAISER SHALL PREPARE AND DELIVER TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS A LIST OF NOMINEES THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS SHALL APPOINT, BY MAJORITY VOTE OF ITS MEMBERS, ONE OF THE NOMINEES.

TO FULFILL A VACANCY. THE INDIVIDUAL WILL SERVE A 1 YEAR TERM FOR FILLING THE VACANCY FOR MR. ALTMAN ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, AND THAT TERM WILL END ON DECEMBER 31ST, 2027.

OKAY. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY MONEY THEY WANT TO NOMINATE? WE DON'T HAVE A NOMINATION FOR THIS. NO. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO THE TIME IS NOW 6:36.

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

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OKAY, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. GOTCHA. GOOD EVENING.

FLOWER MOUND, WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION.

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SO AT 8:03, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. GOOD NIGHT.

FLOWER MOUND.

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