[00:00:03] >> GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND. [A. CALL TO ORDER] THE TIME IS NOW 6:02. I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER THIS EVENING. WE WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME CHAPLAIN LYLES TO SAY THE INVOCATION THIS EVENING AND PLEASE STAND FOR THE INVOCATION, AND WE WILL REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. >> THAT WE PRAY. FATHER GOD IN HEAVEN, WHAT A WONDERFUL MOMENT AND TIME IT IS TO COME BEFORE YOUR THRONE OF GRACE. FATHER, WE'RE THANKFUL THAT WE CAN COME TO YOU AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT ANY AND EVERYTHING THAT'S ON OUR HEARTS. YOU'RE THERE FOR US. YOU SAID YOU'D NEVER LEAVE US OR FORSAKE US AND FATHER FOR THAT WE'RE EXTREMELY GRATEFUL. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU BLESS THE TOWN STAFF AND THE COUNCIL, BLESS THEM AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS THAT WILL INFLUENCE OUR TOWN NOW AND IN THE FUTURE. JUST BLESS THEM WITH WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING. BLESS EACH ONE THAT'S A PART OF THE MEETING TONIGHT, AND FATHER BLESS US IN YOUR SERVICE. FATHER WITH YOU, WE HAVE IT ALL. WITHOUT YOU, WE HAVE NOTHING. FATHER, WE CLING TO YOU EVERY DAY BECAUSE YOU ARE OUR SOURCE OF STRENGTH, YOU ARE SOURCE OF WISDOM, EVERYTHING. FATHER, WE LOVE YOU, BLESS US AS WE SERVE YOU, WE ASK IT IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. >> THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN. WE HAVE A PRESENTATION TONIGHT. [D. PRESENTATION ] TONIGHT, WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING CITIZENS. I'M GOING TO COME ON DOWN THERE. EVERY YEAR WE DO SOME OUTSTANDING CITIZENS FOR FLOWER MOUND, AND WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT DOES THAT, AND THAT COMMITTEE IS ASSIGNED BY MYSELF AND THE TOWN COUNCIL. TONIGHT FROM THAT COMMITTEE IS SCOTT MORGAN, AND HE'S GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATIONS OR HE'S GOING TO ANNOUNCE WHO OUR OUTSTANDING CITIZENS ARE. >> HEY, GOOD EVENING. MAYOR TOWN COUNCIL, FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS. LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, MY NAME IS SCOTT MORGAN AND I'VE THE DISTINCT HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO REPRESENT A COMMITTEE THAT WAS FORMED TO CHOOSE OUTSTANDING CITIZENS OF FLOWER MOUND AND RECOGNIZE THE OUTSTANDING THINGS THAT THEY DO TO MAKE OUR TOWN AS GREAT AS IT IS. I WANT TO PROVIDE A BIT OF OVERVIEW AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE BACKGROUND, SOME OF THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE GOOD AWARDS AND PRESENT THE PLAQUES AND THE GOODIES. THIS YEAR'S COMMITTEE INCLUDED EIGHT INDIVIDUALS, AND LIKE THE MAYOR SAID, THESE ARE COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT ARE APPOINTED BY BOTH MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL AND INDIVIDUAL FROM NON PROFITS. I SAW A COUPLE OF THEM WERE HERE. IF YOU WERE ON THIS YEAR'S COMMITTEE, YOU COULD STAND UP AND BE RECOGNIZED [APPLAUSE]. THIS LIST INCLUDES ALL THE INDIVIDUAL OF THE GROUP AND THE YOUTH CATEGORIES AS WELL AS THE LIFETIME PAST RECIPIENTS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LIST, IT'S EVIDENT THAT THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE GOING TO BE ADDED TO THIS LIST TONIGHT ARE JOINING A REALLY DISTINCT GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE FLOWER MOUND WHAT IT IS. THE OUTSTANDING CITIZENSHIP AWARD IS A MECHANISM WHEREBY THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND RECOGNIZES RESIDENTS AND GROUPS WHO HAVE UNSELFISHLY GIVEN OF THEIR TIME, THEIR ENERGY, THEIR EFFORTS, AND THEIR TALENTS TO MEANINGFULLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS. TO BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS AWARD, THE RECIPIENT MUST BE A FLOWER MOUND RESIDENT OR A GROUP THAT OPERATES WITHIN THE TOWN, AND THEY MUST ACCOMPLISH TWO OF THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS. STRIVE TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY, [00:05:02] ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY AND THE LIVES OF ITS CITIZENS AND OR ADDRESS OR FULFILL A COMMUNITY NEED OR CONCERN. THIS YEAR, THE TOWN RECEIVED MANY DESERVING NOMINATIONS, WHICH MADE THE SELECTION PROCESS ALL THAT MUCH MORE DIFFICULT. EACH NOMINATION HIGHLIGHTED THE EXCEPTIONAL SERVICE THAT'S BEING PROVIDED BY RESIDENTS AND GROUPS UNDERSCORING WHAT MAKES FLOWER MOUND SUCH A SPECIAL PLACE TO LIVE. IF YOU ARE NOMINATED BUT NOT SELECTED TONIGHT, PLEASE KNOW THAT BOTH THE COMMITTEE AND THE TOWN GREATLY APPRECIATE YOUR CONTRIBUTIONS TO IMPROVING THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS. OF COURSE, EVERYONE WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS THE WINNER RECEIVED. EACH CATEGORY WILL BE DISPLAYED ON THE WALL PLAQUE AT TOWN HALL, WHICH WILL BE ADDED TONIGHT. THEY WILL RECEIVE A ENGRAVED ITEM THAT MARKS THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT, AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY SPOTLIGHT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. EACH INDIVIDUAL RECIPIENT WILL ALSO GET A ONE YEAR MEMBERSHIP TO THE CAC, A VIP PASS FOR THE INDEPENDENCE FEST, AS WELL AS AN INVITATION TO ATTEND VARIOUS TOWN EVENTS. EACH GROUP OR YOUTH CATEGORY THAT WINS, EACH PERSON WILL RECEIVE A DAY PASS TO THE CAC AS WELL. LET'S GET DOWN TO WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR, THE GREAT REVIEW. WE'RE GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE INDIVIDUAL ADULT AWARD. >> I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT AND INVITE COUNSEL TO COME ON DOWN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET PICTURES. >> THE INDIVIDUAL THAT'S GOING TO RECEIVE THE 2025 INDIVIDUAL AWARD RECIPIENT, THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID. THIS RECIPIENT HAS BROUGHT HISTORY TO LIFE AND INJECTED ENERGY INTO ENRICHING THE LIVES OF OUR COM A VARIETY OF WAYS. SHE WORKS TIRELESSLY TO BOTH PRESERVE AND THE PAST TO ALL. THE RECIPIENTS [INAUDIBLE] THE YOUNG AND THE YOUNG AT HEART. WHETHER VOLUNTEERING WITH THE NEW LIONS CLUB TO ENSURE A BETTER SITE FOR OTHERS OR ON THE HISTORICAL COMMISSIONS FOR DENTON COUNTY AND FLOWER MOUND. PRESERVING OUR PAST, SHE DOES IT ALL WITH COMPASSION AND DEDICATION FOR THE LEGACY THAT WE ALL LEAVE. ONE OF HER NOMINATORS SAID SHE HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR FLOWER MOUND, AND I CANNOT THINK OF A BETTER OUTSTANDING CITIZEN FOR OUR TOWN. HER CONTRIBUTIONS TO FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF SO, IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE WINNER OF THE 2025 TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND OUTSTANDING CITIZEN AWARD IN THE INDIVIDUAL CATEGORY IS JACKIE MURRELL [APPLAUSE]. >> JACKIE COMES TO A LOT OF MEETINGS ANYWAY. BUT TO GET HER TO COME TO THIS MEETING, NOT KNOWING SHE WAS GOING TO WIN, SHE THOUGHT SHE HAD TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT ON A TOTALLY DIFFERENT ITEM. PATSY, I MEAN, JACKIE, YOU REALLY DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT WAS A FAR. >> OH, MY GOD [INAUDIBLE]. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO SAY IS THIS. I'VE ONLY KNOWN JACKIE NAREL FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, BUT ONE DESCRIPTION OF HER FITS SO PERFECTLY THAT ALL OF THOSE WHO KNOW HER WOULD AGREE, SHE'S OVER THE TOP DYNAMITE IN A SMALL PACKAGE. WHETHER SHE IS ENTHUSIASTICALLY CHAIRING THE FLOWER MOUND HISTORICAL COMMISSION THAT SHE HELPED CREATE, OR SPEARHEADING THE FABULOUS AND VERY SUCCESSFUL GALA FOR THE LIONS CLUB, OR DONATING HER TIME AND MONEY GENEROUSLY TO HELP ELECT FLOWER MOUND TOWN OFFICIALS OR LOCATING AND PROCURING AUTHENTIC FURNISHINGS AND HISTORICAL PIECES FOR OUR GIBSON GRANT LOG CABIN. JACKIE DOES IT ALL WITH ENTHUSIASM AND POSITIVITY THAT IS UNSURPASSED. SHE AND HER HUSBAND, LARRY, HAVE GIVEN SO GENEROUSLY TO OUR TOWN, EVEN DONATING SOME OF THEIR OWN FAMILY HEIRLOOMS TO FURNISH THE GIBSON GRANT CABIN, AND HER ENERGY IS CONTAGIOUS. JACKIE MURRELL, YOU ARE TRULY A FINE EXAMPLE OF AN OUTSTANDING FLOWER MOUND CITIZEN. CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE]. [00:10:12] >> SHOULD I SAY SOMETHING? OH, MY GOSH. I REALLY HAVE A SPEECH FOR TONIGHT FOR THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD [LAUGHTER]. MY GRANDCHILDREN THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT ALL AFTERNOON, BUT I'M ABSOLUTELY FLOORED, MAYOR. EVERYBODY, YOU ALL THANK YOU. I MEAN, EVERYBODY WHO EVER VOTED, OH, MY GOSH. I'M JUST FLOOR. THANK YOU. HONEY, THANK YOU. I KNOW YOU ALL MY FAMILIES HERE. OH, GOD. HOW DID EVERYBODY KNOW? I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT FOUNDING AND BEING A PART OF THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION IN THIS EXTRAORDINARY TOWN HAS MEANT THE WORLD TO ME. I LOVE IT. I LOVE CHAIRING IT. EVERY ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS OR MY DARLING FRIENDS. EVERY ONE OF YOU. I LOVE YOU. I'VE SUPPORTED YOU. I THINK YOUR DARLING. THANK YOU FOR ALWAYS ACCEPTING ALL OF MY NOTES. I TEXT YOU ALL THE TIME AND KEEP YOU UP TO DATE, AND TO ALL OF YOU AT THE TOWN, EVERYONE. JP MASON. OH. CAN YOU BELIEVE IT? I JUST, I'M OVERWHELMED. THANK YOU. I LOVE EVERYONE [APPLAUSE] [LAUGHTER]. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE]. >> I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN TOP THAT, BUT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP GOING. THAT WAS AWESOME REACTION. I LOVE THAT. NOW WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THE INDIVIDUAL YOUTH CATEGORY AWARD. THIS YEAR'S YOUTH RECIPIENT IS A SENIOR AT FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL. HE HAS AN INTEREST IN ENVIRONMENTAL ONCOLOGY, WHICH HAS LED HIM TO PERFORM RESEARCH IN THE AREA OF MOLECULAR BIOLOGY AND HAS PRESENTED HIS RESEARCH AT VARIOUS CONFERENCES. IS INVOLVED IN THE LIONS CLUB PLASTIC BAGS TO BENCHES PROGRAM AND ADOPTED THE FLOWER MOUND LIBRARY LOCATION. EVERY WEEKDAY, HE PICKS UP PLASTIC BAGS AFTER SCHOOL FROM THE LIBRARY TO BE DELIVERED TO THE COMPANY THAT RECYCLES THE BAGS INTO BENCHES. IN ADDITION, HE HAS VOLUNTEERED AT KEEP FLOWER MOUND BEAUTIFUL TRASH OFF EVENTS. HE ALSO HAS BEEN A MEMBER OF FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL AWARD WINNING ROBOTICS TEAM SINCE 2022. I KNOW THAT YOU ALL WILL AGREE HE HAS A VERY BRIGHT FUTURE AHEAD OF HIM. FOR CONTRIBUTIONS IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY, IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO ANNOUNCE THE WINNER OF THE 2025 TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND OUTSTANDING CITIZEN AWARD IN THE YOUTH CATEGORY, VYOM SHARMA. I BELIEVE RICA WANTS TO COME UP AND TALK TO HIM, SHE IS THERE. [00:15:38] >> [BACKGROUND] [APPLAUSE] GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS AND FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS. TODAY, I'M HONORED TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF VYOM SHARMA FOR THE OUTSTANDING CITIZENSHIP AWARD IN THE YOUTH CATEGORY. STARTING AT A VERY YOUNG AGE, VYOM DEMONSTRATED LEADERSHIP, COMPASSION, AND DEDICATION TO OUR COMMUNITY. HE WOULD VOLUNTEER, HELP HIS PEERS AND ADDRESS OVERLOOKED ISSUES WITHOUT SEEKING RECOGNITION. INSPIRED BY STUDIES ON MICROPLASTIC IN HUMANS, VYOM BECAME CONCERNED ABOUT MICROPLASTICS IN THE AIR, FOOD AND WATER. HE STARTED VOLUNTEERING FOR THE LIONS CLUB PLASTIC BAGS TO BENCHES PROGRAM, CLOCKING OVER 100 HOURS EACH YEAR AND HELPING RECYCLE AT LEAST HALF OF THE OVER 15,000 POUNDS THE CLUB COLLECTED SINCE JANUARY 2023. HE HAS ALSO VOLUNTEERED AT KEEP FLOWER MOUND BEAUTIFUL EVENTS, ENCOURAGING HIS YOUNGER SISTER TO JOIN AS WELL. HIS INTEREST IN ECO-ONCOLOGY LED HIM TO STUDY MOLECULAR BIOLOGY. PRESENT AT IEEE CONFERENCES AT MIT AND MOST RECENTLY IN CHINA. VYOM HAS BEEN A KEY MEMBER OF THE FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL ROBOTICS TEAM SINCE 2022, MENTORING YOUNGER FLOWER MOUND STUDENTS IN TECHNOLOGY AND ROBOTICS. HE LED THE AWARD TEAM, CONTRIBUTED TO WINNING THE PRESTIGIOUS IMPACT AWARD TWICE FOR ITS IMPACT ON ELEMENTARY AND MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS IN FLOWER MOUND, QUALIFYING THE TEAM FOR THE 2025 WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP AND AMPLIFYING FLOWER MOUND IN THE EYES OF THE WORLD. [APPLAUSE] LAST MONTH FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL SURPRISED HIM BY AWARDING HIM THE FALL 2025 JAMIN JACK'S AWARD. WHEN ONE OF HIS TEACHERS NOMINATED HIM SAYING, VYOM IS NOT MERELY AN ACADEMIC FENOME. HE IS ALSO AN INCREDIBLY GENEROUS AND KIND PERSON. VYOM ALWAYS HAS A SMILE ON HIS FACE AND ALWAYS HELPS HIS FRIENDS. WHILE DOING ALL THIS, HE DEMONSTRATED MATURITY AND KINDNESS BEYOND HIS YEARS. HIS ACTIONS INSPIRE OTHERS AND REFLECT A POSITIVE INFLUENCE EVERY DAY. IT WAS MY PRIVILEGE TO NOMINATE VYOM AS AN OUTSTANDING YOUNG CITIZEN OF ALL TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THE LAST GROUP THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, DEFINITELY NOT THE LEAST IS THE GROUP AWARD. THIS GROUP OF 50 VOLUNTEERS PERFORMS THE CENTRAL TASKS AT THE TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL FLOWER MOUND. ONE OF THEIR TASK IS TO OPERATE THE FRONT DESK AT THE HOSPITAL ENTRANCE. THEY CREATE A POSITIVE FIRST IMPRESSION OF THE HOSPITAL AND MAKE EVERYONE FEEL COMFORTABLE AND WELCOMED. THE HOSPITAL GIFT SHOP IS ONLY STAFFED BY MEMBERS. THEY DO ALL THE BUYING, PRICING, STOCKING, AND DAILY SALES OPERATIONS FOR THE GIFT SHOP. ALL OF THE PROFITS THAT THE GIFT SHOP GENERATES ARE USED FOR SCHOLARSHIPS AWARDED TO FLOWER MOUND AND MARCUS HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATES AND HOSPITAL EMPLOYEES SEEKING HIGHER EDUCATION. MEMBERS ARE ALSO LOCATED IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM, RECOVERY ROOMS, AND WAITING ROOMS TO OFFER ASSISTANCE TO PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS. THIS CAN INVOLVE SITTING WITH SOMEONE IN THE WAITING ROOM, CALLING A CHAPLAIN, OR JUST GETTING SOMEONE A CUP OF COFFEE. FOR THEIR COUNTLESS CONTRIBUTIONS TO SUPPORT THE PATIENTS, VISITORS AND STAFF AT FLOWER MOUNDS ONLY HOSPITAL, AND THEIR CONTINUED EFFORTS TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL AND POSITIVE IMPACT IN OUR COMMUNITY. IT IS MY HONOR AND PRIVILEGE TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE WINNER OF THE 2025 TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND CITIZEN AWARD IN THE GROUP CATEGORY IS FLOWER MOUND HOSPITAL AUXILARY. [APPLAUSE] [00:20:14] >> I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEAK, BUT I WILL GLADLY SPEAK BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE DO IT RIGHT. THEY ARE WONDERFUL INDIVIDUALS, AND I'D LOOK FORWARD TO VOLUNTEERING WITH THEM EVERY WEEK. WE HAVE ON THE VERY END ONE OF OUR CHAPLAINS J AND THE REST OF US ARE VOLUNTEERS IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS. BUT I THINK THEY PRETTY MUCH TOUCH YOU MOST OF WHAT WE DO. COVID REALLY KICKED US DOWN FOR A LITTLE BIT. WE GOT DOWN TO ABOUT 40 VOLUNTEERS DURING THAT TIME, AND WE'RE BACK UP TO ABOUT 55 NOW. WE ARE FINALLY IN TWO OR THREE WEEKS GOING TO HAVE THE GIFT SHOP COMPLETELY MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND 9:00-4:00 FIRST TIME SINCE COVID. WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT IS OUR INCOME REVENUE IS GENERATED. THAT'S THE MAJORITY OF OUR REVENUE THROUGH THE GIFT SHOP. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CHRISTMAS GIFTS, BIRTHDAY GIFTS, WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE, COME SEE US FIRST, BECAUSE WE GET BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. WE GET BACK. WE LOOK FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE MADE A DIFFERENCE AND ARE GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN OUR COMMUNITY. WHEN YOU'RE WANTING SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE, COME SEE US AND THANK ONE OF THESE PEOPLE WHEN YOU SEE THEM IN THE GREEN SHIRTS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING A GREAT JOB KEEPING THE HOSPITAL A CHEERFUL PLACE TO BE. I THINK IS THE WAY WE LOOK AT IT. JOHN AND TONY BOTH DO A GREAT JOB SUPPORTING US IN THAT ENDEAVOR, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE BEING RECOGNIZED. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> [BACKGROUND] 1, 2, 3. BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU [APPLAUSE] >> OF COURSE, CONGRATULATIONS. THANKS FOR OPPORTUNITY YOU TO [OVERLAPPING] >> THANKS YOU. [BACKGROUND] >> AS WE CONCLUDE, I JUST WANTED TO ENCOURAGE EVERYONE AS WE GO INTO THE NEXT YEAR TO SUBMIT NOMINATIONS. NONE OF THE INDIVIDUALS OR GROUPS THAT WON TONIGHT OR THAT WERE NOMINATED DO IT FOR THE ACCOLADES. BUT IT IS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING WORK THAT WE HAVE OF OUR CITIZENS IN FLOWER MOUND. I HIGHLY ENCOURAGE YOU TO YOU CAN GO ON FLOWERMOUND.ORG. YOU CAN SUBMIT APPLICATION. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO RECOGNIZE WHAT MAKES OUR TOWN SO SPECIAL. CONGRATULATIONS AGAIN TO ALL THE WINNERS AND THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO TO MAKE OUR TOWN GREAT. [APPLAUSE] >> THAT'S THE BEST. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT NEXT. [E. PUBLIC COMMENT ] LIKE WE SAID, JACKIE, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, BUT REALLY THAT'S HOW YOU WERE LURED DOWN HERE IS TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU STILL WANT TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU ARE WELCOME TO DO PUBLIC COMMENT. WE WILL START WITH THAT. THIS TIME OF PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND THE TOWN YOU'RE FROM. THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. >> [OVERLAPPING] NOT BY ME. >> WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, YOU'LL HEAR A SOUND, AND YOU STILL HAVE 30 SECONDS. GO AHEAD. >> GOOD EVENING, JACKIE NAREL 4801 LESCALINE. I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN EVEN DO THIS. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND ESTEEMED COUNCIL. AS THE FOUNDING CHAIR OF THE FLOWER MOUND HISTORICAL COMMISSION, IT HAS BEEN TRULY REWARDING TO SEE HOW THE WORK OF ALL THE BOARDS CAN POSSIBLY INFLUENCE ONE ANOTHER. I'M ESPECIALLY DELIGHTED TO SHARE HOW EXPERIENCES HAVE BEEN [00:25:01] HELPFUL TO THE ANIMAL SERVICE BOARD THROUGH THEIR CHAIR BETH SODERBERG, WITH THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION. FROM THE BEGINNING, THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION HAS PLACED A STRONG EMPHASIS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH THOUGHTFUL PROGRAMMING. ONE OF OUR MOST EFFECTIVE TOOLS THAT WE CAME UP WITH IS WHEN WE USE INTENTIONALLY SELECT OUR KEY SPEAKERS. THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ONLY THERE TO INFORM, BUT THEY INSPIRE, AND THEY'VE JUST REALLY MADE A WONDERFUL IMPACT ON OUR COMMISSION. SEEING THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD ADOPT THIS APPROACH, USING SPEAKERS TO ELEVATE AWARENESS AND SPARK PUBLIC INTEREST HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY ENCOURAGING. WHAT STANDS OUT, HOWEVER, IS THE SPIRIT OF COLLABORATION. THE WILLINGNESS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER AND SHARE THEIR IDEAS OPENLY AND TO BUILD ON PROVEN SUCCESSES, WHICH STRENGTHENS OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD'S OPENNESS TO GUIDANCE REFLECTS THE CULTURE OF CORPORATION AND BENEFITS EVERYONE INVOLVED. THIS COOPERATION FOSTERS GREATER INVOLVEMENT, STRONGER CONNECTION, AND MORE ENGAGED RESIDENTS. IT REMINDS ALL OF US WHEN WE WORK TOGETHER RATHER THAN IN ISOLATION, WE CREATE SOMETHING THAT IS MUCH MORE IMPACTFUL THAN ONLY ONE BOARD CAN DO. I THINK WE'VE PROVEN THIS WITH OUR FLAM HISTORICAL COMMISSION. WE'VE ABSOLUTELY HAD A BLAST AND WE'VE HAD SUPPORT FROM EVERYONE. THIS IS WHY WE SUPPORT THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD AND ALL OF THE OTHER COMMISSIONS THAT ASKED US TO COME AND HELP. THIS COLLABORATION FOSTERS GREATER INVOLVEMENT. THE GREATER CONNECTIONS AND MORE ENGAGED RESIDENTS THAT REMINDS US IF WE WORK TOGETHER RATHER THAN IN ISOLATION, WE DO CREATE MORE IMPACT, AND WHEN WE ARE ONE BOARD, WE CAN ACHIEVE ANOTHER WITHOUT BEING ALONE. I'M SO PROUD OF THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD FOR EMBRACING THIS COLLABORATIVE MINDSET. I LOOK FORWARD, AS WELL AS MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO CONTINUED OPPORTUNITIES FOR THESE BOARDS AND ALL THE COMMISSIONS TO LEARN FROM ONE ANOTHER AND SERVE FLOWER MOUND TOGETHER. I WAS GOING TO SAY I BROUGHT ALONG TWO OF MY GRANDCHILDREN, BUT I HAVE ALL OF MY GRANDCHILDREN HERE. TAYLOR AND SLUTER, BRIN NAREL, KINSLEY NAREL, AND JACKSON NAREL, AND MY HUSBAND. ANYWAY, I BROUGHT THEM TO SHOW THE IMPORTANCE OF LOVE AND DEDICATION TO THE ANIMAL KINGDOM THAT WE HAVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND. WE LOVE OUR PETS, WE LOVE THE ANIMALS, AND THE ANIMAL SERVICE BOARD TAKES CARE OF THE ANIMALS. THEY'RE UNSPOKEN, ARE UNSUNG HEROES REALLY. I REALLY WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW HOW MUCH EVERYONE APPRECIATES THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD. MERRY CHRISTMAS. [APPLAUSE] >> LOVE IT. SCOTT LANGLEY. >> SCOTT LANGLEY, 800 CARTER COURT. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE AWARD RECIPIENTS TONIGHT. THANK YOU TO THE COMMITTEE FOR PUTTING IN TIME TO MAKE YOUR SELECTIONS. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF A NEIGHBOR OF MINE. SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALLY COME DOWN THE TOWN HALL AND SPEAK OUT OR EMAIL OR MUCH. BUT I'M DOING THAT ON HER BEHALF. SHE'S GOT A CHILD AND MAYBE TWO CHILDREN THAT ARE IN FOUNDERS, THE CHARTER SCHOOL OUT ON CROSS TIMBERS 1171. FROM WHAT SHE'S TELLING ME, THERE'S QUITE A FEW ACTUALLY DOZENS OR HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN GETTING SOME ASSISTANCE ON MAYBE GETTING A SCHOOL ZONE FOR OUT THERE. NOW, I KNOW 1171. I TOLD HER IT'S A STATE ROAD SO THAT MIGHT BE COMPLICATED. BUT APPARENTLY, THE PSO, THE PARENT SERVICE ORGANIZATION, IS INTERESTED IN MOVING FORWARD ON THAT. I THINK MAYBE THE SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION IS TOO. SHE ASKED ME, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? WHAT ARE OUR FIRST STEPS? I SAID, I HAPPEN TO BE GOING TO TOWN HALL TONIGHT, I'LL ASK. IF YOU COULD GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK, MAYBE ASK STAFF, HOW THEY SHOULD PROCEED ON THAT, AND SHE'S EITHER WATCHING OR I'LL TELL HER WHAT THE FEEDBACK IS. BUT THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN ADVANCE. APPRECIATE IT. >> THANK YOU, SCOTT. WE HAVE TIM WIESNOTT. >> GOOD EVENING. TIM WIESNOTT AT 2300 OLYMPIA. I WAS ON THE COMMITTEE AND VERY PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT. CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL THE WINNERS. [00:30:01] AS WE WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS, I SAW THAT THERE WERE POSSIBLE SOME SUGGESTIONS TO MAKE TO YOU. ONE IS PERHAPS A NEW CATEGORY FOR A NEW AND UPCOMING AWARD FOR PROMISING CLUBS THAT DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY, BUT THEY SHOW PROMISE. THEN ANOTHER AWARD THAT I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF THE PURVIEW OF THAT COMMITTEE, BUT AN AWARD FOR A RESIDENT ADVOCATE. I KNOW EACH OF YOU AT SOME POINT WERE RESIDENT ADVOCATES. CHRIS DREW LED EFFORT THAT FILLED THIS HALL FULL OF A HISTORICAL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WERE MOTIVATED. IT IS VERY DAUNTING TO COME BEFORE YOU AND TO TAKE ON AN ISSUE. THEY SENT SCOTT TONIGHT, THE NEIGHBOR DID. BUT THE RESIDENT ADVOCATE AWARD WOULD BE, I THINK DECIDED BY COUNCIL AND WOULD RECOGNIZE THE FUTURE LEADERS THAT ADVOCATE FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS AND SUCH. IT WOULD BE IN OUR INTEREST TO PROMOTE THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE, WHO'S GOING TO BE SITTING IN YOUR SEAT DOWN THE ROAD HOPEFULLY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >> THANK YOU. >> WELL, GIVEN THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND I'M GOING TO MOVE THINGS AROUND. WE'LL SKIP TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS REAL QUICK. [H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S) ] DOES ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WANT TO ADD ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? >> IT'S BEEN WHAT, 10 YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN HANDING OUT THE CITIZENS THE THREE CATEGORIES OR FOUR CATEGORIES. MAYBE WE HAVE I'M NOT SURE THE PROCESS, BUT POSSIBLY WE COULD TALK ABOUT MAKING MODIFICATIONS. JUST TAKE ANOTHER LOOK MAYBE AT THE CATEGORIES POSSIBLY. I GUESS THIS MIGHT QUALIFY FOR A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM. I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE DO IT AT A WORK SESSION OR IN A MEETING. >> I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS TO BE A HUGE AGENDA ITEM, BUT I THINK WE CAN JUST TAG THAT ONTO A WORK SESSION COMBINE IT WITH SOMETHING. >> PROBABLY THE NEXT EXCUSE ME. PROBABLY SOMETIME IN JANUARY, THE EARLIEST, WE CAN MAYBE LOOK AT IT. I'LL GET AND JUST SEE WHAT WE HAVE IN THE QUEUE BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF CONTINUING THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT PREPARING FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET, BUT SURELY THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO BRING THAT UP. AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST LOOKING AT THE CATEGORIES OF BECAUSE TYPICALLY I CAN WORK WITH TRACY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT ANYTHING THAT'S IN MY WILL HOUSE. I NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I KNOW HOW TO SET IT UP, AND I'LL WORK WITH TRACY TO GET THAT DONE. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY OTHER AGENDA ITEMS? WE'LL GO BACK TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. [F. ANNOUNCEMENTS] DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE TONIGHT? >> I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT. THREE YEARS AGO, I WENT TO LUNCH WITH A FORMER COUNCILMAN AND HE ASKED ME TO RUN FOR TOWN COUNCIL. I SAID, NO. I SAID I WAS HAPPY ON PLANNING AND ZONING. I DON'T WANT MORE INVOLVEMENT WITH THE TOWN. BUT MONTHS LATER, I THOUGHT THROUGH IT AND I SAID, WHY NOT? WITH ALL THE WORK THAT I WAS DOING ON PLANNING AND ZONING AND WITH THE WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT OUT WEST AND ALL THE DEVELOPMENTS OUT WEST, IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS THE SAME STUFF I WAS DOING EXCEPT MAKING THE DECISION INSTEAD OF ASKING. I DECIDED TO RUN, AND THREE YEARS LATER, I AM HERE, AND I'VE KEPT MY PROMISES. WE'VE LOWERED TAXES. I GOT MY TAX BILL THE OTHER DAY, AND IT WAS ACTUALLY LOWER THAN PREVIOUS YEAR, WHICH WAS SURPRISING TO ME. WE HAD THE MAXIMUM HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION BY LAW. WE'VE INCREASED OUR SENIOR EXEMPTION TO A RECORD HIGH. IN DEVELOPMENTS, WE'VE ALWAYS PUSHED TO LOWER DENSITY, ESPECIALLY PUSHING AWAY FROM NON OWNER OCCUPIED MULTI FAMILY THAT INCREASES TRAFFIC AND BURDENS ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. I BELIEVE WE DID IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF OUR DEVELOPMENTS AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS. TONIGHT, I'M ANNOUNCING THAT I'M GOING TO BE FILING FOR RE ELECTION [APPLAUSE] NEXT YEAR. THREE MORE YEARS. >> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT ANNOUNCEMENT BECAUSE I'VE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU AND YOU ARE DEFINITELY COMMITTED TO RESIDENTS NEEDS HERE IN THE COMMUNITY. FLOWER MOUNT IS HAPPY IS VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE YOU AS A COUNCILMAN. I REALLY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH YOU. >> [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU CHRIS. THANKS FOR AGREEING FOR THREE MORE YEARS. >> CONGRATS CHRIS. >> THANK YOU >> GOOD LUCK. [00:35:01] >> CONGRATS CHRIS. >> THANK YOU. >> WELL, CAN ANYBODY BEAT THAT? YOU WANT ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS? JAMES, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? [G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT ] >> YES, MA'AM. I HAVE TWO ITEMS. THE FIRST OF WHICH, MARY, IF YOU CAN JOIN ME ON THE FLOOR, WE HAVE A EMPLOYEE RECOGNITION. >> EVERY MONTH, WE TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES THAT HIT SERVICE MILESTONES FROM 15 YEARS UP IN FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT THE TRUE STARS OF THIS ORGANIZATION, WHICH ARE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE. THIS EVENING, I'M GOING TO ASK CLINT FREDERICK TO COME JOIN US UP FRONT [APPLAUSE] HOW YOU DOING? >> THANK YOU. >> YOU GOT A GOOD OVATION, MAN. >> CLINT HE'S HIT HIS 15 YEAR ANNIVERSARY AND JUST A LITTLE BIT GROUND ABOUT CLINT. HE IS A FACILITIES TECHNICIAN TO IN OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT. HE WAS HIRED ON AS A BUILDING AND GROUNDS TECHNICIAN ON DECEMBER 27 OF 2010. HE WAS PROMOTED TO A HVAC TECHNICIAN IN MARCH OF 2011, AND TRANSFERRED AS A MAINTENANCE TECHNICIAN TO IN 2017 AND HIS TITLE WAS RECLASS IN 2024. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO EVERY MONTH, WE LIKE TO GET A FUN FACT ABOUT SOMEBODY. I DID NOT EXPECT YOUR FUN FACT. I WAS READY FOR ANOTHER ONE, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE THE BONUS FUN FACT AFTER I GIVE THIS ONE. BUT CLINT'S FUN FACT IS THAT HE LEARNED TO CROCHET SCARVES AND BLANKET AS JUST 9-YEARS-OLD. THANKS FOR LESSONS FROM MS. NANA. YOU JUST WOULDN'T LOOK AT THIS GUY AND THINK HE CROCHETED. THE THING, THAT'S VERY INTERESTING. THE OTHER PIECE TOO IS THAT EVERY YEAR AT HALLOWEEN, WE DO A COSTUME EVENT, AND HE'S GOT SOME PRETTY HIGH LEVEL VAMPIRE COSTUMES. IT'S NOT LITTLE PLASTIC TEETH WE GOT WHEN WE WERE LITTLE, BUT HE ALSO DOES A GREAT JOB THERE. BUT THE ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT CLINTON AND OTHERS, OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE UNSUNG UNSEEN HEROES OF THE ORGANIZATION. THEY DO AN AWFUL LOT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FACILITIES ARE UP TO SNUFF AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SET UP VERY WELL. IN ADDITION, THANK YOU FOR 15 YEARS, THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO IN FACILITIES, CLINT [APPLAUSE] COUNSEL, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING THAT I REALIZE I'VE NEVER DONE IN MY FOUR YEARS BEING HERE, WHICH IS MAKE A PRESENTATION FROM THE PODIUM. THIS IS DIFFERENT FOR ME. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO DO TODAY IS JUST HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE HOLIDAY ACTIVITIES THAT WE HAVE HERE IN TOWN. IT IS A GREAT TIME OF YEAR, AND THE TOWN DOES AN AWFUL LOT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE OPPORTUNITIES TO OUR RESIDENTS TO CELEBRATE THE HOLIDAYS. BUT WE ALSO GO THE EXTRA MILE AS FAR AS EMPLOYEES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE UNDER PRIVILEGE FOLKS IN OUR COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A FEW OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HAD GOING THIS PAST MONTH. ONE OF WHICH, THANK ALL OF YOU AND COUNSEL FOR PARTICIPATING. WE HAD OUR CHRISTMAS PARADE. ON DECEMBER 6, AND YOU CAN SEE THE STAT RIGHT THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO READ TO YOU, BUT WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION THIS YEAR, OVER 785 PARTICIPANTS AND 29 ENTRIES. HOW I WAS INTRODUCED WHEN WE MOVED HERE, IS TO WRITE A PASSAGE OF FLOWER AMOUNT. YOUR FIFTH GRADER AND THEIR CHOIR GROUP HAS TO GO UP AND SEEING THERE. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO SEE THE YOUNG FOLKS GO AND PERFORM OUT THERE. THE TREE LIGHTING CEREMONY WAS FOLLOWED WITH AN INCREDIBLE SIX MINUTE FIREWORK SHOW AND I'M GOING TO MISS SOMETHING. I WAS THERE. BUT I WAS NOT PROPERLY DRESSED. MY DAUGHTER AND I GOT COLD AND SO WE LEFT A LITTLE EARLY, AND I HEARD WE MISSED THE BEST SIX MINUTES. THAT'S ON ME. SO NEXT TIME. >> IT WAS GREAT. >> WE'LL BRING MORE TO BE ABLE TO STAY FOR THE FIREWORK SHOW. BUT ALSO, THE OTHER THING TOO, IS I COULD HAVE WATCHED IT ON FACEBOOK. AS YOU SEE THERE, WE'VE HAD A LIVE STREAM THAT GARNERED OVER 12,000 VIEWS ON FACEBOOK. HERE'S JUST A FEW OTHER THINGS. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER ATTRACTIONS THAT WE'VE HAD OUT THERE AND DIFFERENT AMENITIES FOR THE COMMUNITY. BUT WE WANT TO SAY A BIG THANKS TO OUR PRESENTING SPONSOR CO SERVE FOR ALL THEIR WORK. THE COUNTLESS TOWN STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS THAT COMMITTED TO THIS EVENT. YOU SEE THE WOMEN OF FLOWER MOUND THERE, AS WELL AS THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST LATTER DAY SAINTS, FOR THEIR PARTICIPATION OR HAVING ANOTHER GREAT CHRISTMAS PARADE. [00:40:03] >> I HAVE TO SAY TO JUST INTERRUPT, MY MOTHER'S BOYFRIEND, WHO'S IN HIS 90S, HAD TO NAVIGATE THROUGH TRAFFIC ONLINE AND HE SAID IT WAS THE MOST EXCEPTIONAL NAVIGATION TO GET THROUGH ALL THE TRAFFIC AND GET THERE AND HE'S IN HIS 90S. HE'S IN HIS 90S. BUT ANYWAY, KUDOS, FOR YOU ALL SETTING ALL THAT STUFF UP. >> ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT WE KICKED OFF ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO IS SANTA AROUND TOWN, AND IT'S DUNBAR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. WHAT WE DO IS OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT PARTNERS WITH OUR GIS DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAVE, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE PICTURES UP THERE, WE HAVE SANTA MISS CLAUSE DRIVE AROUND TOWN ON ONE OF OUR FIRE TRUCKS. IT'S AN EVENT THAT IS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER AS WE PROGRESS THAT FIRST YEAR, THERE WAS A FEW HICCUPS AND FOLKS WERE UPSET. THE WORST THING YOU WANT IS TELLING YOUR KIDS, SANTA'S GOING TO BE HERE BY THIS TIME. NOT THERE. WE GOT A EARFUL, BUT WE'VE GOTTEN BETTER AND GOTTEN A LOT BETTER. IS BECOMING A GREAT TRADITION HERE FOR THE TOWN. YOU CAN SEE THE INTERFACE DOWN THERE ON YOUR BOTTOM LEFT IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT BEFORE. BUT A NEW WRINKLE THIS YEAR IS THAT THE POLICE HAS JOINED IN TO THE FESTIVITIES AND YOU CAN SEE WE CARRY AROUND A GRINCH THIS YEAR. GOT A FEW OTHER PICTURES FOR YOU. WHAT'S REMARKABLE ABOUT THIS. IT'S A SMALL GESTURE, BUT IT'S REALLY BECOMING PART OF THE FABRIC OF CHRISTMAS TRADITION HERE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUNT. I'VE GOT A VERY LOVELY EMAIL FROM A RESIDENT HERE ABOUT THE EXPERIENCE THAT SHE HAD WITH OUR KIDS. AGAIN, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT TAKES GREAT OWNERSHIP IN THIS AND THEY JUST GO THE EXTRA MILE AGAIN, JUST SHOWING SOME CHRISTMAS CHEER TO OUR KIDS. >> IF YOU WEREN'T FOLLOWING THIS YEAR, PLEASE DO SO NEXT YEAR. IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE AND YOU CAN GET THE TIMES AND YOU'LL KNOW WHEN TO BE OUT THERE, AND WE DON'T DO INDIVIDUAL STREETS, BUT THERE'S A STREET CLOSE TO YOU THAT WILL COME DOWN. ADDITIONALLY, THIS PAST SATURDAY, WE HAD THE BREAKFAST WITH SANTA, HAD 240 PARTICIPANTS WITH A POLAR EXPRESS THEME SESSION. GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE SUMMIT CLUB WHO CAME OUT AND COOKED PANCAKES. WE ALSO PROVIDED COCOA, CRAFTS, AND OTHER THINGS, ALONG WITH THE FLOWER MOLL YOUTH YOUTH ACTION COUNCIL, AND ALSO THANKS CO SERV AGAIN AND DOCTORS AGENT CARE FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THIS EVENT. NOT TO BE OUTDONE, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS AN ANNUAL TRADITION, WHICH IS OUR SANTA COPS PROGRAM, AND THAT'S WHERE WE TAKE UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS TO TARGET FOR A CHRISTMAS SHOPPING SPREE. AS YOU SEE, WE'VE SHOPPED FOR 140 CHILDREN AND WE HAVE 70 MORE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SERVE. AGAIN, JUST A GREAT TRADITION. I KNOW THAT IF I WAS A LITTLE AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO SHOPPING WITH A COP, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN VERY AWESOME. NOBODY WANTS TO SHOP AT THE TOWN MANAGER OR ANYBODY LIKE THAT. ADDITIONALLY, FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU CAN SEE THE TOY DRIVE, NOT JUST WITH CENTER AROUND TOWN, BUT ALSO THE TROY DRIVES THAT THEY DO. IT'S STILL OPEN UNTIL THE 17TH. YOU'VE GOT A COUPLE OF DAYS IF YOU WANT TO DROP OFF A TOY AT ONE OF OUR FIRE STATIONS. THIS SUPPORTS THE LISD ANGEL TREE PROGRAM. ALSO LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT RED KETTLE. MAYOR I HEARD ABOUT YOUR KARAOKE MACHINE THAT YOU HAD OUT THERE. >> IS DANGEROUS. >> JUST A LOT OF FUN. MAYOR, WE HAD MEMBERS OF OUR COUNCIL AS WELL AS STAFF AND SOME OF OUR BOARDS COMMISSIONS. THEY WERE OUT AT THE KROGER THIS PAST WEEKEND, RINGING THE BELLS TO COMPETITION. WE'RE COMPETING WITH HIGHLAND VILLAGE AND LEWISVILLE. BUT AS YOU CAN SEE THERE WITH THE PICTURES IS A GREAT TURNOUT BETWEEN STAFF AND OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS JUST TO GO OUT AND RAISE MONEY FOR A GOOD CAUSE AND BRING A LITTLE CHRISTMAS CHAIR, INCLUDING KARAOKE. >> I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR COMING OUT TO THAT, SIGNING UP. FIRE DEPARTMENT CAME OUT. I JUST MISSED YOU ALL. I WAS COMING AND YOU ALL WERE GOING. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR DOING THAT AND ALL THE RESIDENTS THAT CAME OUT AND STAFF THAT CAME OUT TO HELP WITH THAT. >> LAST AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN MY FOUR YEARS HERE IS THAT EVERY CHRISTMAS, WE DO A SERVICE PROJECT AS A LEADERSHIP TEAM, AND LEADERSHIP TEAM IS COMPRISED NOT ONLY OF THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT OUR DIRECTORS AND ASSISTANT DIRECTORS AND MANAGERS WITHIN THE ORGANIZATION. IT'S JUST A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. WE SERVE EVERY DAY, BUT JUST TAKING A LITTLE EXTRA TIME TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE UNDERPRIVILEGED IN THE AREA, AND THIS YEAR, WE PARTNERED WITH HARD CITY. YOU SEE SOME PICTURES OF THERE OF US WORKING IN THEIR FOOD BANK AND HELPING SHOP FOR SOME OF THE RESIDENTS THAT NEED THEIR ASSISTANCE AND THEIR FOOD PANTRIES. ALWAYS A FULFILLING OPPORTUNITY THERE. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ALSO WORKED WITH CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY ACTION. WE ADOPTED FIVE SENIORS. WE ALSO ADOPTED FIVE FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS, ALSO, SO SENIOR SENIORS AND HIGH SCHOOL SENIORS. THE COOL THING ABOUT THIS IS THAT I'M BUSY AND I ALWAYS WANT TO SIGN UP AND I'LL TALK TO MY ASSISTANT. LET ME SIGN UP FOR THIS. THEY'RE SNAPPED UP JUST LIKE THAT. EMPLOYEES JUST JUMP UP AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE TO SERVE. YOU CAN ALSO SEE LOVE PAC IS A LONG TIME PARTNER WE PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR. [00:45:03] THEY DO A GREAT INITIATIVE DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON. A LOT OF CASES, THERE'S KIDS WHO THE ONLY NUTRITIOUS MEAL THEY GET IS THROUGH SCHOOL AND DURING THE BREAK, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T HAVE AVAILABILITY TO NUTRITIOUS FOOD. LOVE PAC PACKS UP A BOX FOR THEM OF MEALS THAT THEY HAVE OVER THE BREAK. AND WE WERE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS NOW. ALSO, HE MAY TOMORROW, YOU CAN SEE THAT WE DONATED $100 FOR CAT FOOD FOR UNDERPRIVILEGED PETS IN THE AREA. AGAIN, THE HOLIDAY SEASON IS A GREAT TIME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE PROGRAMS AND INITIATIVES THAT WE HAVE AND ALSO THE SERVICE PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE. THAT WRAPS UP MY PRESENTATION, AND I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR ANYTHING THAT WE PRESENTED. >> NO, THANK YOU SO MUCH, JAMES. >> IT'S NOT THAT BAD. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO [APPLAUSE] >> WE WENT THROUGH FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. [I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS ] WE'LL SKIP TO ITEM. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS, THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR IS DECEMBER 18. WE'LL HAVE A WORK SESSION ON A COUPLE OF DAYS, A FEW DAYS. EVERYBODY'S GOING TO BE THERE FOR THAT. THEN STARTING THE NEW YEAR, WE'LL HAVE JANUARY 5, OUR REGULAR MEETING, AND THEN JANUARY 15 IS A WORK SESSION. I'M ASSUMING EVERYBODY CAN BE THERE. THERE AGAIN. ALL RIGHT WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS. [J. CONSENT ITEM(S) ] LOOKS LIKE 11. 11 CONSENT ITEMS, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THOSE OR REMOVE ANY ITEM? >> I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS J 1 THROUGH J 11 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> TRACY, CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLE? >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHESTI. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. AYE. >> ALL CONSENT ITEMS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. OUR FIRST REGULAR ITEM TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED BY BOB PEG, OUR TOWN ENGINEER. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ON AN ORDINANCE AMENDING SECTION 8.0, THE WATER PLAN OF THE MASTER PLAN. >> MAYOR, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND OPEN BOTH ITEMS IF YOU WANT. >> DO YOU WANT ME TO? WE'LL OPEN REGULAR ITEM 1 AND 2 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. [Items K.1 - K.2] THIS DOES REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE ON THIS ITEM. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL, BOB PEG, TOWN ENGINEER. BACK TONIGHT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE AMENDING THE TOWN'S WATER AND WASTEWATER PLAN. THIS IS PART OF THE IMPACT FEE PROCESS THAT WE'VE STARTED. YOU CAN SEE IN OUR TIME LINE UP HERE FOR TONIGHT. WE'LL GET THIS DONE. THIS WILL ALLOW US TO RELEASE THE IMPACT FEE REPORT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE 22ND AS OUR PLAN. THAT'LL BE POSTED. IT WON'T BE HERE, BUT IT'LL BE POSTED FOR PUBLIC VIEWING, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY THE CHANGES IN STATE LAW. TONIGHT TO PRESENT TO YOU, I'VE GOT CONNOR MANLEY, HE'S GOING TO BE PRESENTING FOR KILEY HORN AND KYLES HERE AS WELL TO SUPPORT HIM. TURN OVER TO CONNOR. >> AWESOME. THANK YOU, BOB. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M CONNOR MANLEY, I LIVE AT 8749 REGAL ROYAL DRIVE, FORT WORTH, TEXAS, 76108. WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS THAT BOB MENTIONED HERE, AND THEN KYLE SANDERSON, MY COLLEAGUE HERE AS WELL TO FIELD ANY QUESTIONS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION. BRIEF AGENDA. WE'LL GO A BACKGROUND ON THE MASTER PLANS THEMSELVES AND SOME OF THE HISTORY, THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT WITH THE UPDATE, OUR METHODOLOGY WITH THE UPDATE, AND THE RESULTING CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF THE EVALUATION, AND THEN THE FINAL NEXT STEPS. BACKGROUND. BOTH THESE MASTER PLANS WERE LAST MAJORLY AMENDED IN 2020. THE AMENDMENT IS TO AN ORIGINAL 2009 WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLAN. IN BETWEEN THOSE UPDATES, WE ALSO COMPLETE ANNUAL MODEL UPDATES TO BOTH THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MODELS. WHAT WE'RE REALLY UPDATING IN THOSE TIME FRAMES ARE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE. NEW CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT ARE COMING ONLINE, SO WE CAN KEEP THAT MODEL AS UPDATED AS POSSIBLE AND A LIVING MODEL, ESSENTIALLY. WITH THIS FIVE-YEAR ADJUSTMENT THAT WE'RE DOING, [00:50:04] WE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT COMPLETE THE IMPACT FEE UPDATE. THE TWO DOCUMENTS ARE VERY SIMILAR, BUT NOT QUITE THE SAME. THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, WE FIRST STARTED OFF WORKING WITH THE TOWN PLANNING STAFF AND DEVELOPING THE LAND USES. WE DEVELOPED LAND USE ASSUMPTIONS FOR EXISTING OBVIOUSLY LAND USE, BUT FUTURE LAND USE AS WELL AND FIGURING OUT WHAT THE GROWTH LOOKS LIKE FOR THE TOWN. WE ALSO COMPLETE A EVALUATION OF THE HISTORICAL DEMANDS, BOTH ON THE WATER AND WASTEWATER SIDE. TO DETERMINE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES AND TRENDS GOING ON AND TO EVALUATE HISTORICALLY AS WELL IF WE'RE IN LINE WITH PREVIOUS PROJECTIONS. WE UPDATED AND CALIBRATED HYDRAULIC MODELS USING REAL DATA THAT TOWN STAFF PROVIDED TO US. THEN WITH THAT, ONCE WE HAD AN EXISTING MODEL THAT WORKED, WE WERE ABLE TO LOOK AHEAD AT FUTURE CONDITIONS IN FIVE YEAR, 10 YEAR AND BUILD OUT CONDITIONS FOR THE TOWN. THEN AFTER THAT, WE PREPARED THE DOCUMENTS. GOING MORE INTO THE METHODOLOGY FOR THE WATER SIDE, WE TOOK ACTUAL GEOGRAPHIC LOCATIONS OF EACH WATER METER AND ASSIGNED THEM IN THE MODEL TO MATCH EXACTLY WHERE THE WATER IS BEING USED INSIDE THE TOWN. TO MOST ACCURATELY REPRESENT WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE LOOKED AT WASTEWATER FLOWS, SO LOOKING AT HOW OFTEN LIFT STATIONS ARE RUNNING. THERE'S PERMANENT FLOW METERS THAT ARE INSTALLED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN. WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT DATA TO UNDERSTAND WHAT FLOW RATES WE'RE SEEING, AND THEN FINALLY, THE TREATMENT PLANT ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN. WE WERE ABLE TO USE THAT FLOW DATA AND BASICALLY CALIBRATE A MODEL OFF THAT. OVERALL, WE WERE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT TOTAL PROJECTIONS WERE PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WITH 2020S UPDATE WITH NO SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. FINALLY, WE WERE ABLE TO USE TOWN'S OPERATIONAL DATA. THERE WAS ACTUALLY FIELD DATA THAT GOT GATHERED DURING THE PROCESS. WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO COMPARE THE FIELD DATA VERSUS WHAT THE MODEL WAS SPITTING OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WERE LINING UP. BASICALLY, ONCE WE SET THAT UP, WE LOOKED AT THAT FIVE, 10 AND BUILD OUT CONDITIONS, AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO DETERMINE CIPS OR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. ONCE WE WERE ABLE TO DETERMINE WHAT PROJECTS ARE NEEDED, WE'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP A COST FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS, AND THEN SUM THAT TOGETHER INTO A DOCUMENT TO AMEND THE MASTER PLAN. HERE IS A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT MAP OF THE POTABLE WATER SYSTEM. ONE THING TO NOTE, THIS MASTER PLAN IS STRICTLY FOR THE POTABLE WATER SYSTEM. THERE ARE SEPARATE MASTER PLANS FOR THE REUSE WATER. THERE'S A DENTON CREEK AND A LAKESIDE REUSE MASTER PLAN. THIS IS FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN'S POTABLE DRINKING WATER. YOU CAN SEE AS COUNCIL AND DREW MENTIONED, THERE'S A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING IN THE WESTERN PORTION OF TOWN, SO A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF PROJECTS ARE REFLECTING THAT. SHOWING THAT DEVELOPMENT AND STILL A FEW PROJECTS ON THE EAST SIDE, BUT NOT NEARLY AS MUCH AS THE WEST. THIS IS THE FUTURE WATER SUPPLY FOR THE TOWN. TO REALLY SHOW WE COMMUNICATE, LET ME BE CLEAR WHAT WE'RE COMMUNICATING, WE'RE SHOWING MAX DAY DEMAND. THAT DARK BLUE LINE, THAT IS THE MOST WATER USED IN A SINGLE DAY FOR EACH YEAR. THAT'S NOT EVERY DAY IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE YOUR PEAK IRRIGATION SUMMER MONTHS WHERE WE'RE SEEING THAT TYPE OF DEMAND. THEN THE LIGHT BLUE LINE IS OUR PROJECTION IN WATER USAGE ALL THE WAY THROUGH BUILDOUT, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 2048. THEN THE GOLD LINE REPRESENTS WHAT WATER DEMAND MIGHT LOOK LIKE WITH THE REUSE SYSTEMS THAT I PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED COMING ONLINE. NOT NECESSARILY THIS YEAR, BUT IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THEN THE DARK DASHED RED LINE, THAT IS THE CONTRACTED WATER SUPPLY THAT THE TOWN HAS WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND UPPER TRINITY REGIONAL WATER DISTRICT. OVERALL, WE ARE WELL BELOW THAT LINE TODAY, BUT WE'RE ABLE TO USE REUSE TO DELAY, POTENTIALLY GOING OVER THAT. I WILL SAY PART OF THE REPORT SHOWS THESE ARE JUST PROJECTIONS. THERE'S NO REUSE SYSTEM CURRENTLY ONLINE. WE DON'T KNOW TRULY HOW IT WILL AFFECT IT UNTIL THE FIRST SYSTEM BECOMES ONLINE. [00:55:01] BUT WE HAD SOME INSTANCES WHERE WE HAD JUST A DRINKING WATER METER AND A IRRIGATION METER, AND WE'RE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW MUCH WATER WAS USED FOR IRRIGATION AND THAT GETS SHAVED OFF ONCE YOU USE REUSE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE SHOWING A LOWER USAGE ONCE THE REUSE COMES ONLINE. BUT ULTIMATELY SHOWING A 9.5 MGD DEFICIT IN 2048. IN 2020, WHEN WE PRESENTED THIS TO YOU, THAT WAS 14 MGD. IT'S A LITTLE LESS. IT'S TRENDING IN THE CORRECT DIRECTION. THEN WITH REUSE, WE'RE SHOWING SIX MGD DEFICIT STILL COMPARED TO WHAT'S SUPPLIED TODAY. SWITCHING OVER TO THE WASTEWATER PORTION. WE'VE GOT TWO SEPARATE MAPS WITH THE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, NOT BEING SERVED BY THE SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND OPERATES. BUT OBVIOUSLY, WE HAVE THE EAST SYSTEM, THAT COMPRISES OF TWO SERVICE AREAS, LONG PRAIRIE AND LAKESIDE WITH A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT THE TOWN OWNS AND OPERATES. THEN THE WESTERN PORTION, WHICH WE'VE ACTUALLY CONSOLIDATED NOW FROM PRAIRIE VISTA AND DENTON CREEK, JUST TO DENTON CREEK. BUT OBVIOUSLY, YOU CAN SEE THE EAST SIDE IS MUCH MORE BUILT OUT THAN THE WEST SIDE. THE WEST SIDE, WE ACTUALLY CONSTRUCTED A MODEL FOR THE FIRST TIME WITH A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT COMING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. WE DEVELOPED THIS GO AROUND AND WE'RE ABLE TO IDENTIFY MORE DEFINED PROJECTS AND TIMING FOR THOSE PROJECTS, WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF. ALSO, WE'LL GO INTO THIS. THE EAST SIDE IS ALL SERVED BY THE TREATMENT PLANT. AS A REMINDER, THE TREATMENT PLANT WAS ORIGINALLY RATED FOR 9.5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY OR MGD, AND IT GOT DE-RATED TO 8.7. DURING OUR ANALYSIS, WE FOUND THAT THE BUILD OUT PROJECTED FLOW FOR THE E SYSTEM WAS ACTUALLY 8.4 MGD. THERE WAS A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT MASTER PLAN COMPLETED JUST A FEW YEARS BACK IN 2023. THAT ONE ONLY INDICATED A EXPANSION BEYOND 2035. BEYOND THE T10-YEAR WINDOW, AND THAT IS PURELY A TCQ REQUIREMENT ON THAT END, AND THEN ON THE WEST SYSTEM, IT'S ALL SERVED BY TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY OR TRA. THEY'RE CURRENTLY UNDERGOING AN INDEPENDENT MASTER PLAN. THEIR WHOLE SYSTEM IN IDENTIFYING IMPROVEMENTS. IT'S VERY PRELIMINARY RIGHT NOW. WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MIGHT HOLD YET FOR THE TOWN. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOT AT THIS CURRENT MOMENT. THEN AS I MENTIONED, WE COMBINE SERVICE AREAS TO JUST DENTON CREEK THIS GO AROUND WITH THE WEST SYSTEM BEING OPEN RIGHT NOW. IT'S A LOT EASIER TO DO THAT NOW THAN WHEN DEVELOPMENTS START HAPPENING, AND I ALSO ELIMINATES ANY ISSUES POTENTIALLY WITH DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT BE CROSSING A BOUNDARY. THEN, I MENTIONED PULLING TOGETHER A MODEL FOR THE FIRST TIME IN 2025 FOR THE WESTERN SYSTEM. THIS IS A SUMMARY OF COSTS FOR BOTH WATER AND WASTEWATER. THE FIRST COLUMN IS JUST WITHIN THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW AND THE SECOND IS BEYOND THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW. FOR WATER, WE'RE SHOWING ABOUT 38 MILLION WITHIN THE FIVE YEAR AND 41.4 MILLION BEYOND FIVE WITH A TOTAL OF 79.3 MILLION. WASTEWATER, 22.9 MILLION IN THE FIVE-YEAR WINDOW, AND 58.4 BEYOND THE FIVE FOR A TOTAL OF 81.3. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY POTENTIAL TRA EXPANSION PROJECTS FROM THEIR MASTER PLAN THAT THE TOWN MAY HAVE TO COST PARTICIPATE IN. THE TOTAL IS 60.8 MILLION IN THE FIVE YEAR AND NEARLY 100 MILLION BEYOND THE FIVE YEAR. NOTING THAT THIS IS CAPACITY DRIVEN PROJECTS ONLY, AND THIS IS ONLY POTABLE WATER. THESE ARE NOT INCLUDING REUSE PROJECTS. THIS IS JUST AN UPDATED TIMELINE WITH THE PASSING OF THIS MEETING HERE. WE'D BE LOOKING TO MAKE THE IMPACT FEE REPORTS PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND MOVING FORWARD ON THE IMPACT FEE PROCESS. WHAT WE ASK FOR YOU IS TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF AMENDING SECTIONS 8 AND 9 OF THE WATER AND WASTEWATER MASTER PLANS. WITH THAT, THERE ANY QUESTIONS? [01:00:03] >> COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST HAD ONE. COULD YOU GO BACK TO PAGE 11, PLEASE? I GUESS I MISSED IT. WHAT ELEMENTS GO INTO REDUCING OUR PROJECTED FLOW TO 8.4? >> THAT'S JUST THE EVALUATION OF THE HISTORICAL DEMAND. IT'S MAINLY THE LAKESIDE DEVELOPMENT. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT IN 2020, WE WERE ANTICIPATING AN AGGRESSIVE GROWTH IN THERE, AND SINCE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, SOME THINGS HAVE BUILT OUT AND IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN LESS THAN ANTICIPATED. THAT'S WHAT'S RESULTED IN A REDUCTION. >> THANK YOU. DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? GO AHEAD. >> GO BACK TO SLIDE 9, PLEASE. EVEN IN A REAL SCENARIO, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT ABOUT 10 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE AT OR CLOSE TO THE THRESHOLD OF WHAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE WITH THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO EXCEED. WHAT HAPPENS THEN? >> YES, SIR. YEAH, THAT'S ACCURATE. THAT'S A RE-EVALUATION WE'LL NEED TO DO. LUCKILY, WE'RE DOING THIS ANNUALLY WITH UPDATING MODELS AND AS DEMANDS CHANGE AND THEN MAJORLY AMENDING EVERY FIVE YEARS. WE JUST NEED TO KEEP A PULSE ON THIS. BUT ULTIMATELY, IF WE'RE GOING TO SURPASS THAT VALUE, THEN AN ALTERNATE SUPPLY WOULD BE REQUIRED. >> WE THINK THAT EVENTUALLY WE'LL COME TO A POINT WHERE WE HAVE TO FIND MORE SUPPLY SOMEWHERE IN THE SYSTEM. DO WE THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE AN OPTION FOR US AT THAT TIME? >> IT IS AN OPTION, YES, TO PURSUE THAT. I WILL MENTION TOO, THIS IS 1-2 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR WHERE THIS IS HAPPENING, 10 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO 41. THE AVERAGE IS AROUND 16 MGD CURRENTLY. THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR IRRIGATION LIMITATION AS WELL. BUT AGAIN, I'LL MENTION REUSE AND THAT IMPACT. WE DON'T TRULY KNOW WHAT THAT'LL BE. ONCE THAT FIRST SYSTEM IS ONLINE, THESE PROJECTIONS SHOULD GET MORE ACCURATE. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IS, DO WE THINK THAT LIKE YOU SAID, IN LATE 2030S, WE'RE GOING TO BE TELLING PEOPLE THEY CAN'T WATER THEIR LAWN? ARE WE GOING TO BE TRYING TO EXTEND THE REUSE SYSTEM INTO MORE PARTS OF THE TOWN OR DO WE THINK WE'RE JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO THE UPPER TRINITY AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED MORE WATER AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE OPEN TO SELLING US MORE? DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF WHAT DIRECTION WE THINK WE'LL BE GOING AT THAT TIME? >> YES. ALL THREE OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE PROBABLE, BUT I WOULD LEAN ON BOB OR KYLE, IF YOU HAVE ANY INPUT ON THAT SPECIFICALLY. >> WILL THEY SELL US MORE WATER? >> THEY WILL. >> NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE TEN. IN YOUR DOCUMENT, IT SAID THAT WE SOLD 400,000 GALLONS TO COPPER CANYON FOR ONE OF THEIR DEVELOPMENTS. IS THAT REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP? >> THAT IS NOT REPRESENTED ON THIS MAP, BUT IT IS ON THE EASTERN PORTION, I WONDER IF I CAN POINT ON HERE. CAN YOU ALL SEE THAT ON N? THAT'S IN THIS AREA AND IT ENTERS THE SYSTEM RIGHT HERE AND IT'S ACCOUNTED FOR IN THE MODEL, BUT IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY INSIDE OF YOUR SERVICE AREA. I BELIEVE THERE'S AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE TOWN. >> IF THE TREATMENT PLAN IS CAPABLE OF UP TO 10 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY FOLLOWING THE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS, IS THAT MEAN THAT THAT 400,000 IS GOING TO BE PART OF THAT 10 MILLION? >> YES, SIR. IT'S PART OF THAT RIGHT NOW. >> JUST MAKING SURE. MY MAIN CONCERN IN READING THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE CONVERSATION WE HAD LAST TIME. UNDERSTANDING WHAT IF THE LEGISLATURE WAVES A MAGIC WAND AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, OUR BUILDOUT, LIKE IT SAID IN YOUR DOCUMENT THAT THE EAST SIDE IS CURRENTLY 750,000 RESIDENTS, PROJECTED TO BE 82,000 AT TOTAL COMPLETE BUILDOUT. IT SAID IN YOUR DOCUMENT THAT WHEN THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT CONVERTED TO MIXED USE, WHICH WAS A HIGHER INTENSITY FROM A WASTEWATER STANDPOINT, YOU HAD TO UPDATE THAT PORTION OF IT TO 32,000 GALLONS PER DAY PER ACRE WASTEWATER, DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME FOR WATER. >> THAT IF THE LEGISLATURE WAVES THE MAGIC ONE AND SUDDENLY WE HAVE LOTS OF AREAS IN TOWN THAT COULD GO THROUGH THAT SAME EVOLUTION, HOW DO WE ACCOUNT FOR THAT? HOW DO WE GO TO THEM AND SAY, "LOOK, WE'VE ALREADY GOT $160 MILLION PLAN TO SPEND JUST TO MEET THE CAPACITY OF WHAT WE HAVE TODAY?" BUT THIS BILL IS GOING TO MAKE IT ALL OF A SUDDEN, OUR BUILD OUTS 200,000. DO WE HAVE ENOUGH DATA IN HERE TO SAY, "WE NOW HAVE 500 ACRES THAT HAVE JUST BEEN CONVERTED TO MIXED USE BY THE LEGISLATURE?" THEREFORE, WE NEED TO GO AND ADJUST AND MAKE CHANGE THEM TO 3,200 GALLONS PER DAY WASTEWATER AND HOWEVER MUCH ON THE WATER SIDE? CAN WE EXTRAPOLATE THAT AND THEN GO TO THEM AND SAY, THIS IS HOW MUCH SPENDING YOU'VE JUST PUT US IN A POSITION TO HAVE TO PLAN FOR? [01:05:03] >> NOT EXACTLY, BUT WHAT WE COULD DO, WHICH IS WHEN WE DISCUSSED IT ABOUT STAFF EARLIER THIS YEAR. WHAT I'VE DONE IS THEY DO HAVE MODELS. IN THE MODEL, THEY'VE TALKED ABOUT HOW THE MODELS LOADED WITH WHAT'S THERE CURRENTLY TODAY AND THEN WHAT'S PLANNED FOR UNDEVELOPED AREAS, WHICH THERE AREN'T A LOT ON THE EAST SIDE. INTERNALLY AS A STAFF AFTER, WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IS WORK WITH PLANNING TO DECIDE WHAT THAT INCREASE LOOKS LIKE. WHAT LOTS, HOW MANY, WHERE WE WOULD PUT IT. WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY POPULATE WHAT WE THINK COULD HAPPEN. THEN I WOULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND GIVE THAT TO KIMLA HORN AND ASK THEM TO RUN THAT IN THE MODEL. THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY LOAD THE MODEL WITH WHATEVER WE WANT TO SHOW THEM NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS FAR AS DEVELOPMENT IN THOSE AREAS IF IT'S SPREAD OUT OR CONCENTRATED. THEY PLACE THAT IN NODES WITHIN THE MODEL, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IS THE LINE SIZES, THAT THAT WATER GOES INTO OR THAT WATER FLOWS TO THEM OR GOES INTO A WASTEWATER LINE. THOSE LINES WILL SHOW UP AS RED OR THEY WILL SHOW UP AS A COLOR OR IN THE MODEL AS BEING NOT ABLE TO CONTAIN THE FLOW THAT'S PLACED IN THEM. THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD GET FEEDBACK BACK, IS WHAT LINE SIZES, HOW MANY, THE LINEAR FOOT, THE SIZES THAT HAVE TO BE INCREASED. ESSENTIALLY, THAT MODEL WOULD POPULATE AND KICK OUT THE PROJECTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE TO ACCOMMODATE A SCENARIO THAT WE GIVE IT. WE COULD GIVE IT A NUMBER OF SCENARIOS, BUT IT WOULD BE ON STAFF TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE AND WHAT WE WOULD THINK COULD HAPPEN AND THEN IT WOULD KICK OUT PROJECTS THAT THEN WE'D HAVE TO COST IF WE WANTED TO DO AN EFFORT LIKE THAT. >> WOULD YOU THEN UPDATE THE IMPACT FEES? BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A FUNDING MECHANISM FOR THAT KIND OF ADDITION. >> IMPACT FEES CAN BE UPDATED AT ANY POINT. THEY HAVE TO BE DONE EVERY FIVE YEARS. IF WE WANTED TO REDO THIS EFFORT THAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN AND WE WOULD POPULATE THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND LOAD THEM BECAUSE IT IS A CAPACITY DRIVEN INCREASE TO THOSE LINE SIZES, SO IT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR IMPACT FEE. >> BUT COULD YOU MODEL IT? IN THE INTERIM, SHOULD THE LEGISLATURE COME BACK IN TWO YEARS? WE NEED TO KNOW NOT ONLY THIS IS THE NEW CAPACITY THAT WE NEED, BUT WE NEED TO CONVERT IT TO DOLLARS SO THEY HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT WOULD MEAN TO DEVELOPERS THAT THEY'RE NOT GETTING IT SCOT FREE, AND WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT ON THE BACK OF OUR RESIDENTS. >> THE SAME ASSOCIATIONS THAT WANT THE UP ZONING ARE ALSO SAYING, WE SHOULDN'T BE CHARGED IMPACT FEES, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO CHANGE IMPACT FEES. THE OTHER HALF OF THE CONVERSATION IS, GIVE US UP ZONING, SO THAT EVERY ACRE IS 3,200 GALLONS PER DAY. BUT NO IMPACT FEE CHANGES WITHOUT SUPERMAJORITIES AND CAN ONLY BE DONE EVERY FIVE YEARS, MAKE IT AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO GET THEM TO PAY THEIR OWN WAY. THAT'S THE BIND RAN. NOW WHEN WE GO TO THE LEGISLATURE, SOMETIMES THEY'RE IGNORANT OF THIS CONTENT AND THE DOCUMENTS WERE GREAT. IT HELPS ME A LOT IF I UNDERSTAND IF WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S A STATE RESIDENTIAL AND IT'S GOING TO USE THIS MANY GALLONS PER DAY AND THEN IT CONVERTS TO MIXED USE, IT'S GOING TO GO TO THIS. IT JUST HELPS US FRAME IT IN A WAY FOR SOMEONE WHO IS AN EXPERT. THE DOCUMENTS WERE GREAT. YOU GUYS DID A GREAT JOB. I'M 100% IN FAVOR OF IT. I'M TRYING TO USE IT TO ARM MYSELF FOR THE NEXT LEGISLATIVE CYCLE. APPRECIATE EVERYTHING, GUYS. >> THANK YOU. I'LL MAKE A SLIGHT CORRECTION TOO ON THE IMPACT FEE. THE NEW LEGISLATION THAT CAME IN SEPTEMBER 1ST, YOU CAN'T ADJUST IT EVERY YEAR, THE IMPACT FEE. IT'S GOT TO BE 3-5 YEARS NOW. >> TO ANSWER ANN'S QUESTION TOO. TO DO A FULL LOOK AT IMPACT FEES LIKE THEY'RE DOING, THAT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY WOULD DO WITH THAT EFFORT. BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO IS THINK ABOUT NUMERATOR AND DENOMINATOR, AND YOUR COST OF YOUR CAPITAL PROJECTS IS WHAT GOES ON TOP AND YOUR BOTTOM IS WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. THAT WOULD BE YOUR NEW DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S A SIMPLE EXERCISE. IT'S WHAT THEY DO, BUT THEY DO IT MUCH MORE COMPLICATED WITH FINANCIAL FOLKS THAT HELP TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT COULD BE RECOUPED. BUT IN GENERAL, THAT'S AN EASY EXERCISE THAT COULD BE DONE TO ILLUSTRATE A CAPITAL COST, PUT OVER A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS, OR PROPERTY OWNERS, OR HOWEVER YOU WANT TO USE THAT BOTTOM TO DETERMINE WHAT WE WOULD BE ADDED TO THE TOWN THAT WASN'T PREVIOUSLY PLANNED TO BE AS PART OF OUR BUILD PRIOR TO THE LEGISLATION. >> ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD, AS FAR AS PROCESS IS CONCERNED, IF YOU RECALL LAST YEAR, LIKE WITH A SMALL LOT BILL, WE WERE DOING THAT ANALYSIS AT A HIGH LEVEL IN REAL TIME DURING THE SESSION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO THIS YEAR IS THAT PROBABLY NEXT SPRING IN '26, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THAT CONVERSATION AND START PULLING THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER AS WE GET A SENSE, MORE LIKE A LOT OF THE BILLS THAT DIDN'T QUITE MAKE IT ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND THOSE BILLS THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY BRACKETED OUT OF FROM POPULATION, THE BRACKETS COULD BE REMOVED. WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT ON THE DEFENSE GOING INTO THE NEXT SESSION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE INTEND TO DO IS HAVE THAT DATA READY SOONER RATHER THAN LATER SO WE CAN START ENGAGING [01:10:04] OUR DELEGATION IN '26 TO LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS OF SOME OF THESE THINGS RATHER THAN IN REAL TIME DURING THE SESSION. WE'RE WORKING WITH BRANDON. WE HAVE AN INTENT IN THE SPRING TO START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND LINING UP THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS TO SOME OF THESE BILLS IF THEY WERE TO PASS. >> THAT'S GREAT. >> THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU-ALL HAVE? THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY. I'M GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS. DOES ANYBODY WISH TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS TIME? I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE IT. COUNSEL, WOULD YOU LIKE TO DELIBERATE ANY FURTHER? OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? THIS DOES HAVE TO BE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE. YOU WANT TO MAKE? WHO WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION? I MOVE TO APPROVE. >> WE NEED SEPARATE MOTIONS TOO. >> YES. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K1 AS PROPOSED. >> SECOND. >> WE'LL READ THE ROLE FOR K1. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL? >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> K1 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION FOR K2? >> I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K2 AS PROPOSED. >>SECOND. >> ANOTHER ROLE? >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> K2 ALSO PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO K3. [K.3. CSP25-0002 - Argyle ISD High School Stadium - Public Hearing to consider a request for a Comprehensive Sign Package (CSP25-0002- Argyle ISD High School Stadium) to allow two additional signs and two larger wall signs on the building. The property is generally located south of Canyon Falls Drive between Denton Creek Boulevard and Stonecrest Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 3 to 2 at its December 8, 2025, meeting.) ] POORNIMA, OUR PLANNING MANAGER IS GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN. THIS IS TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE AT ARGYLE ISD HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE FOR ARGYLE ISD HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE. IT IS LOCATED TO THE WEST OF US 377 AND SOUTH OF CANYON FALLS DRIVE. HERE IS A DETAILED LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT SITE SHOWING THE HIGH SCHOOL PROPERTY. SITE PLAN FOR APPROVED FOR THIS PROPERTY TO ALLOW CONSTRUCTION OF APPROXIMATELY 47 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER, 11,000 SQUARE FOOT PRESS BOX, AND APPROXIMATELY 5,000 SQUARE FOOT CONCESSION STANDS, THREE OF THEM. THAT WAS APPROVED LAST YEAR IN JULY. ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE A MORE UPDATED A MAP THAT SHOWS THE CONSTRUCTION IN PROCESS ON THE SITE. LAND USE IS INSTITUTIONAL, AND THEN THE ZONING IS PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 98 FOR CANYON FALLS, AND THE PROPERTY IS ZONED FOR SINGLE FAMILY TENURE USES, AND INSTITUTIONAL USES ARE PERMITTED WITHIN SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES. THIS IS GENERALLY THE PURPOSE OF COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE. THIS ALLOWS FOR A SPECIALIZED REVIEW OF SIGNS, WHICH MAY HAVE MERITORIOUS DESIGN. SEEK TO PROMOTE A UNIQUE QUALITY FOR AN EXISTING OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, REQUIRES SPECIAL CONSIDERATION BY THE COUNCIL. THIS IS GENERALLY THE SIGN EXHIBIT, A SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE SIGNS BEING PROPOSED WITH THE CSP. A1 AND A2 ARE SIGNS LOCATED ON A WALL OR A FENCE. A3 IS THE PRESS BOX SIGN, AND A4 IS THE SIGN PROPOSED ON THE EAST FACADE OF THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER. I HAVE DETAILS ON THESE SIGNS AND UPCOMING SLIDES. I HAVE SOME SIDE PICTURES. THIS IS LOOKING EAST ONTO THE SUBJECT SIDE, WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STADIUM, CLOSE UP VIEW OF THE STADIUM WHERE THE SIGN IS BEING PROPOSED. THIS IS THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER, THE EAST FACADE, WHERE THE SIGN IS BEING REQUESTED. AGAIN, THIS IS THE SIGN EXHIBIT SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THESE SIGNS ON THE SITE PLAN, AND THESE ARE THE SIGN ELEVATIONS. A1 AND A2 SIGNS ARE ON THE FENCE OR A WALL THAT LEADS TO THE STADIUM. >> IS THAT THE PROPOSED SIGN OR THE ORDINANCE? >> IT IS THE PROPOSED SIGN. A3 IS A PROPOSED SIGN ON THE PRESS BOX, AND A4 IS A SIGN ON INDOOR ATHLETIC CENTER. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE PRESS BOX. THE HEIGHT OF THE PRESS BOX IS 105 FEET AND THIS PROJECT DID RECEIVE A MODIFICATION FROM [01:15:01] PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION REGARDING THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING, BOTH FOR THE PRESS BOX AND FOR THE INDOOR ATHLETIC CENTER. HERE ARE THE DETAIL VIEW OF THESE SIGN EXHIBITS BEING PROPOSED. YOU CAN ALSO SEE THERE'S A TABLE THAT SUMMARIZES WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. THIS IS A1 AND A2 SIGNS ON THE FENCE, LEADING TO THE ENTRANCE OF THE STADIUM. THESE SIGNS ARE NOT PERMITTED BY THE SIGN CODE, TOWN SIGN CODE. THERE'S NO REGULATIONS FOR THESE SIGNS. WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS FOR THESE SIGNS TO BE FOUR FOOT TALL. A1 IS APPROXIMATELY 42 FEET WIDE, AND THEN A2 IS APPROXIMATELY 30 FEET AND 6" WIDE. THE REQUESTED AREA IS 172 SQUARE FEET FOR THIS ARGYLE ISD LINE, AND THEN WITH THE STADIUM, IT IS 122 SQUARE FEET. THEN THIS A LOGO SIGN IS PROPOSED ON THE PRESS BOX. THE TOWN CODE ALLOWS FOR ANY SIGNS TO BE A MAXIMUM OF SIX FEET. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS A 24 FOOT SIGN, AND THE WIDTH OF IT IS 22 FEET, AND THE MAXIMUM AREA THAT THE TOWN ALLOWS FOR ANY SIGN IS 300 SQUARE FEET. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS 534 SQUARE FEET. THE NEXT SIGN IS THE LOGO SIGN ON THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER. AGAIN, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF THE SIGN ALLOWED BY THE SIGN CODE IS SIX FEET. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS SEVEN FEET AND 8 " AND THE WIDTH IS SIX FEET, AND IT IS WITHIN THE PERMITTED 300 SQUARE FEET. THE AREA OF THAT LOGO SIGN IS 122 SQUARE FEET. THIS RECEIVED A RECOMMENDATION, A PARTIAL APPROVAL OF THIS PROJECT FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION. P&Z APPROVED SIGNS A1, A2, AND A4, AND THEN RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF A3, WHICH IS THE PRESS BOX SIGN. WE DID SEND NOTIFICATIONS TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET. WE HAD RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL ASKING FOR MORE QUESTIONS. IT WAS JUST INFORMATIONAL QUESTIONS. IT WAS NOT IN OPPOSITION OR IN SUPPORT PHONE CALL. THIS IS THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OF YOUR QUESTIONS, BUT THE APPLICANT IS HERE TOO. THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION AS WELL. >> DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS BRAXTON BOOTH, 2057 WEST HEBRON PARKWAY, CARLTON, TEXAS, 75010. JUST TO RECAP FROM TOWN APPROVAL FROM LAST YEAR, REFRESH YOUR MEMORIES. THIS IS THE EXTERIOR ELEVATION FROM THE MAIN ENTRANCE VIEW WEST OF THE PRESS BOX. THIS IS A VIEW OF THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER. >> IS THAT THE 24 FOOT SIGN RENDITION? >> ON THE PRESS BOX, YES. >> THAT REPRESENTS A 24 FOOT NOT? >> THIS IS TO SCALE. >> THIS IS THE IMAGE THAT YOU GUYS SAW DURING THE APPROVAL PROCESS THAT WE WENT THROUGH LAST TIME. IT DOESN'T REPRESENT WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TODAY BECAUSE THEY'VE REBRANDED AND THE A IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT THE SIZE AND SCALE IS COMPARABLE. >> THIS IMAGE IS OF THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER. THE A SEEN HERE IS WHAT WAS SHOWN LAST YEAR. WE'RE GOING TO SHOW A DIFFERENT SIGN IN ITS LOCATION, BUT WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE PALETTE OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS AN AERIAL VIEW OF THE ENTIRE SITE TO GIVE YOU FULL CONTEXT WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL IN THE BACKGROUND. >> AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WAS SHARED WHEN WE CAME BEFORE. >> ELEPHANT ROOM, LARGE A, WE TOOK TWO PHOTOS FROM RIGHTS OF WAYS. THE FIRST ONE IS FROM THE CLOSEST RIGHT OF WAY RELATIVE TO A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY. IT'S AT 1,700 LINEAR FEET. THIS IS THE VIEW YOU WOULD SEE OF THAT PRESS BOX. IMAGE NUMBER 2 IS FROM DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD, ABOUT 1000 LINEAR FEET, WHICH IS A HEAD ON VIEW OF THE PRESS BOX. I WENT AHEAD AND PUT A LITTLE RED A TEXTBOX JUST TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF SCALE OF WHAT THAT SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE FROM THIS DISTANCE. THE TOWN PERMITS A SIX FOOT TALL SIGN. IF YOU PUT THAT ON A ONE STORY BUILDING, [01:20:02] WHICH IS WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE RIGHT AT ABOUT 21 FOOT TALL FOR THE BUILDING, IT'S ABOUT 30% WALL SIGN TO WALL RATIO. THE PRESS BOX IS 105 FEET AS POORNIMA SAID, A 24 FOOT TALL SIGN THAT RATIO OF SIGN TO WALL IS ABOUT 22%. A LITTLE BIT LESS THAN THE PROPORTIONS OF A SIX FOOT TALL SIGN ON A ONE STORY BUILDING. THIS IS THE EAGLE LOGO, WE WANT TO PUT ON THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER, NOT THE LARGE A, AS WE SHOWED EARLIER. THE WALL SIGN TO WALL RATIO IS ABOUT 17% COMPARED TO THAT 30% ON THE SIX FOOT TALL SIGN ON A ONE STORY BUILDING. THE CLOSEST RIGHT AWAY IMAGE TAKEN FROM CANYON FALLS. THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE. THE SIGN WOULD BE RIGHT HERE ON THIS LITTLE YELLOW PORTION OF THE BUILDING. THIS IS THE SHEETING OF THE BUILDING. >> IT WON'T BE BE YELLOW. >> IT WON'T BE YELLOW. THIS IS JUST THE SUBSTRATE BEHIND THE FINISHED WALL PANEL. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER COMPARISON IMAGE OF WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING VERSUS A SIX FOOT TALL SIGN ON A ONE STORY BUILDING. >> THE BASIS FOR THIS SIGN AND SIZE SPECIFICALLY IS TO GIVE A FACILITY THAT IS MATCHING THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER AT THE ARGYLE MIDDLE SCHOOL IN ARGYLE. OUR DIRECTIVE WAS TO PROVIDE AN EQUAL FACILITY OF SIZE, FUNCTION, PROGRAM, AS WELL AS SIGNAGE. THAT'S THE BASIS FOR DESIGN FOR THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER. AS PYRAMINA SAID, THERE'S NO ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS OUR FRONT ENTRANCE CANOPIES SIGNS. WE ARE SHOWING FOUR FOOT TALL SIGNS. THE IMAGE, WHICH I CAN GO BACK TO THAT WE SHOWED LAST YEAR WAS A SIX FOOT TALL SIGN. WE ACTUALLY REDUCED THE HEIGHT OF THE SIGN FROM LAST YEAR BECAUSE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SCALE AND PROPORTIONALITY, WE FELT THAT WHAT WE ORIGINALLY HAD WAS TOO BIG AND IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN TOO FOR SPECTATORS, SO WE LOWERED THE HEIGHT. THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION THAT WE TOOK INTO ACCOUNT. FROM THE SAME TWO VIEWPOINTS OFF OF CANYON FALLS AND DENTON CREEK, SIMILAR TO THE LARGE, THIS IS WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FOR ARGYLE ISD STADIUM ON THE ENTRANCE CANOPIES. THIS IS JUST A ZOOMED IN VIEW FROM THAT CANYON FALLS DRIVE VIEWPOINT, AND A ZOOMED IN VIEW FROM DENTON CREEK. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. >> I DO HAVE A QUESTION. TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LIGHTING. WHAT WILL IT LOOK LIKE AT NIGHT? >> OUT OF ALL OF THESE SIGNS, THE LARGE A WILL BE ILLUMINATED, LED. THE FACE COLOR OF THE SIGN IS RED, SO IT WILL BE ILLUMINATED AS RED. I THINK THE ANTENNAS IS JUST HAVE IT DURING EVENTS. >> WILL THE EVENT PRESUMABLY SAY FOOTBALL GAME COULD BE OVER 10:00 OR 11:00 AND THEN THE LIGHT GOES OUT? IS THAT THE INTENTION? >> THAT'S THE INTENT. YOU CAN DEFINITELY PUT THESE LIGHTS ON A TIMER. >> I CAN'T SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT [OVERLAPPING]. >> [INAUDIBLE] PART OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR SURE, BUT TYPICALLY THEY'RE ONLY RUN DURING THE EVENTS. YOU'VE GOT SEVEN FOOTBALL GAMES A YEAR, THEY MIGHT HAVE SOCCER GAMES AND OTHER THINGS THAT THEY MAY ALSO BE RUNNING IT FOR. BUT WE COULD GET THE SCHEDULE FROM THEM AS FAR AS THAT GOES, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SEE. >> IT'S ILLUMINATED. IT'S NOT PROJECTING SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LIGHT? >> CORRECT. >> I THINK YOU CAN STILL SEE IT FROM BIG DISTANCE IF YOU'RE HOME. MY CONCERN WOULD BE, I DON'T WANT IT ON ALL NIGHT LONG AND DISTURBING THE RESIDENTS AND I DON'T KNOW HOW FAR THE LIGHT WOULD CAST. BUT SOMETIMES IF YOU HAVE YOUR BEDROOM WINDOW OPEN, YOU STILL SEE THE LIGHT. THAT WOULD BE MY ONE CONDITION THAT I WOULD WANT TO TALK ABOUT. THAT BE TURNED OFF AT A CERTAIN TIME OF EVENING. >> HUNDRED PERCENT. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE PICTURE, THAT WE CAN SEE THE SCOREBOARD LIT UP. I CAN'T REMEMBER. I THINK IT WAS PAST THIS. RIGHT THERE. GO BACK. BOTTOM RIGHT. YOU CAN BARELY SEE THE SCOREBOARD ILLUMINATED TO THE RIGHT OF THE STADIUM. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DISTRICT EARLIER TODAY ABOUT THIS SIGN, [01:25:05] AND ONE OF MY CONCERNS, NOT REALLY TO THE SIGN WAS THE SCOREBOARD. IT WAS LIT UP REALLY BRIGHTLY TO DO A BURN IN A FEW WEEKS AGO. ON A CLOUDY NIGHT, IT ILLUMINATED PROBABLY A THIRD OF CANYON FALLS. I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE ON ALL THE TIME. THAT'S PROBABLY BRIGHTER THAN WHAT IT NORMALLY WOULD BE. TO YOUR POINT, I'D BE VERY INTERESTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SIGN ELIMINATION IS TIED TO THE SCORE BOARD ELIMINATION, IT'S ONLY UTILIZED WHEN THOSE EVENTS ARE OCCURRING. MY UNDERSTANDING FROM TALKING TO THE STAFF TODAY WAS THAT SCORE WOULD BE ON AND ILLUMINATED DURING THOSE EVENTS. IF WE CAN TIE SOMEHOW THE ORDINANCE TO APPROVE THE SIGNS SO IT CAN ONLY BE ILLUMINATED WHEN EVENTS ARE IN SESSION, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO MITIGATE THAT. >> I COMPLETELY AGREE. >> CAN A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE INCLUDE HOURS OF ELIMINATION? >> YES. ABSOLUTELY. YOUR ORDINANCE ACTUALLY SAYS THE TOWN COUNCIL MAY IN THE INTEREST OF PUBLIC WELFARE AND ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH THIS SECTION OF THE URBAN DESIGN CRITERIA, ESTABLISH HOURS OF OPERATIONS, ARRANGEMENT, PROPORTIONALITY, SCALE, ETC. >> I THINK THAT'S A GREAT COMPROMISE. THAT'S ACTUALLY PROBABLY BETTER THAN TRYING TO CONTROL THE SIZE. AS I WAS WATCHING PNZ AND THINKING ABOUT THIS, WE HAVE THE FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL LOGO ON THE WATER TOWER ON BRIT NOOR, AND IT'S A 28 FEET TALL, AND 39 FEET WIDE. IT'S NOT OUT OF THE QUESTION TO HAVE AN INSTITUTIONAL USE WITH A LARGE SIGN IN CERTAIN CASES, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S NOT RIGHT IN YOUR FACE, IT'S SET BACK, BUT IT DOESN'T LIGHT UP. I THINK THAT THAT ACTUALLY IS A KEY POINT. IF THAT IS A WAY TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM AND GET A NICE SIGN THAT FOLKS ON YOUR SIDE, BRIAN ARE HAPPY WITH, AND I THINK THAT'S REALLY THE RIGHT SOLUTION. >> THE CONVERSATION I HAD MY CONCERN WAS, WE'RE GRANTING A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO WHAT OUR TOWN STANDARDS ARE. THERE'S TWO STANDARDS, THE HEIGHT OF SIX FEET AND THEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE. THEY PUT TOGETHER ANOTHER PROPOSAL, AS A RESULT OF THAT CONVERSATION WHERE THE HEIGHT WAS STILL IN EXCESS, BUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE IS ALWAYS 300 FEET, WHICH WILL BE COMPLIANT. IT'S A COMPROMISE. BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT IT VISUALLY AND LOOKS TOO SMALL FOR THAT SPACE. I THINK THE SIZE IS OKAY. THE LIGHT IS A CONSIDERATION THAT I'D LIKE IT TO MAKE SURE WE MITIGATE THAT. >> WHEN YOU WERE GIVING YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU MENTIONED, I THINK SOME OF THE OTHER NEWER STADIUMS HAVE BIG LOGOS AND I LOOKED AT PROSPER JUST AS A NEW ONE AND IT HAS A BIG LOGO, BUT IT'S A CONCRETE STAMPED ARCHITECTURAL FEATURE, NOT JUST A BIG GAUDY SIGN. THE TYPE OF SIGN AND THE WAY IT'S ELIMINATED MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE, I THINK IN WHETHER OR NOT THE SIZE IS ACCEPTABLE. IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE TO YOU TO HAVE TIME OF DAY CONTROLS ON THESE ILLUMINATION, I THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOOD SOLUTION. >> PYRAMINA, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. WOULD IT BE MORE SPECIFIC FOR US TO DESIGNATE A SPECIFIC HOUR OF DAY RATHER THAN JUST TIE IT TO SAY THE SCOREBOARD, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DECIDE TO LEAVE THE SCOREBOARD ON THEN WE'VE SAID, YOU CAN LEAVE THE OTHER IN EFFECT, SO TIME OF DAY PREFERABLE? >> POSSIBLY A CONSIDERATION. I WOULD CHECK WITH THE DISTRICT TO SEE WHAT WOULD BE THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION OR. >> YOU CAN'T MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE LIGHTING ILLUMINATION, CAN YOU? >> POSSIBLY, I THINK THAT [OVERLAPPING]. >> IT'S NOT AS INTENSE. >> IT'S NOT INTENDED TO BE AN INTENSE SIGN. THE VIDEO BOARD IS IS GOING TO BE READABLE MORE THAN THE SIGN. I THINK FROM A LUMENS STANDPOINT, WE COULD CERTAINLY GET THAT INFORMATION TO PROVE THAT OUT. I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW. IF WE WERE LOOKING AT TYING IT TO SOMETHING, AGAIN, NOT TO SPEAK FOR THE DISTRICT, I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS, BUT YOU GUYS CAN CERTAINLY SET WHATEVER PARAMETERS YOU WANT. HOWEVER, PARTICULARLY TYING IT TO AN EVENT, I THINK MAKES A LOT OF SENSE VERSUS A TIME BECAUSE SOMETIMES THE EVENTS, THEY DON'T WANT THE KIDS OUT SUPER LATE, BUT YOU KNOW HOW FOOTBALL GAMES ARE. >> I KNOW. I LIVE BY A STATE. >> TO BE SENSITIVE OF THAT, I WOULD HATE TO BE IN THE MIDDLE OF AN EVENT AND THEN WE CROSS A TIME LIMIT AND THE LIGHTS HAVE TO SHUT OFF OR SOMETHING. >> IF WE SAID SOMETHING LIKE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE GAME, OR THE EVENT. >> THAT SEEMS REASONABLE. AGAIN, WE WOULD TAKE THAT BACK TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AT THE SCHOOL BOARD BUT THAT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME. >> BRIAN, JUST LOOKING AT WHICH DIRECTION THAT'S FACING, IT'S FACING RIGHT INTO THE RESIDENTS. >> IT IS FACING INTO THE RESIDENTS. >> HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMES CAN GO TO 11:00 IT'S A LONG GAME. DO WE WANT TO? MAYBE 9:00 MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE IT SHUT OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME. THE MAIN LIGHTS CAN STAY ON, BUT JUST BECAUSE IT'S AN OUTWARD FACING SIGN? [01:30:06] >> LET ME KEEP THE SCOREBOARD ON, BUT NOT THE LOGO. >> I THINK THE SCOREBOARD IS MENTIONED, GENERATE A LOT MORE LIGHT THAN THE SIGN IN THIS LOGO. I'M OKAY WITH IT BEING ON A LITTLE BIT LATER JUST FOR SPECIFIED EVENTS AND SPECIFIED TIMES. MY CONCERN IS, HOW DO WE SPECIFY AN EVENT? HOW DO WE PRESCRIBE WHAT'S AN ACCEPTABLE EVENT THAT WOULD QUALIFY TO HAVE EVERYTHING ILLUMINATED? IF WE DO PROVIDE SAY AN EVENT, AND WE INTEND FOR IT TO BE FOOTBALL GAMES? THEN IT BECOMES, YOU NAME IT, WHATEVER ELSE COULD BE THAT WE DON'T CONTEMPLATE TODAY. HOPEFULLY, IF THAT HAPPENS, THE LIGHT IS NOT AN ISSUE FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT LET'S SAY IT IS, AND IT'S BEEN APPROVED. WHAT MECHANISM DO WE THEN HAVE AT THAT POINT TO COME BACK AND REVISIT THIS AND SAY, THIS IS A LOT MORE THAN WE ENVISIONED. IS THERE A MECHANISM THAT WE CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT ADJUSTING THAT? I THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICT ON, SOMETHING WE CAN LEGISLATE? HOW WOULD THAT WORK WITH? >> I THINK YOU COULD RECONSIDER IT ON YOUR OWN INITIATIVE. ANOTHER THING YOU COULD DO IS YOU COULD SAY THAT THE LIGHTS WOULD HAVE TO BE OFF THE LATER OF THE END OF THE GAME OR 11:00 P.M. YOU COULD SET A CEILING. >> BUT YOU SAID ALSO, YOU COULD CHECK THE AMOUNT OF LUMENS THAT THAT GIVES OFF AND THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE ADJUSTED AS WELL. >> IT MAY BE POSSIBLE. WE CAN WORK WITH THE SIN MANUFACTURER WHO WOULD BE PRODUCING THE SIGN TO SEE WHAT THE OPTIONS WERE FOR THAT. THERE'S TEST PRACTICES. >> I DON'T WANT TO JUST LIKE A NIGHT LIGHT VERSION. >> I AGREE. >> I THINK THERE WAS SOME OTHER I DON'T REMEMBER THE SPECIFIC CASE, BUT WE SUGGESTED THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO RENEW ANNUALLY, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US A CHANCE TO ADJUST. YOU COULD DO THAT WELL. WE COULD GRANT IT OF ONE YEAR. REVISE OUT AND THEN IF RESIDENTS HAVE FEEDBACK. >> YOU WANT TO BRING IT BACK ANNUALLY. >> AT LEAST FOR THE MAYBE NEXT COUPLE, TWO TIMES. WE CAN SEE HOW RESIDENTS LIKE. >> WE COULD PROPOSE A CHANGE IF IT'S DISTURBING RESIDENTS. WE DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY REQUIRE THEM. >> YOU COULD. WHY DO WE WANT TO FORCE SOME TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR? >> I DON'T KNOW. I JUST OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT, BUT AS LONG AS WE CAN BRING IT BACK, AND THEN WE CAN SAY, WE DON'T WANT YOU DOING THAT ANYMORE. >> I WOULD INCLUDE IN YOUR MOTION THEN THAT IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO RECONSIDERATION BY COUNSEL AT A FUTURE DATE IF THERE ARE CONCERNS. >> DO THAT. >> I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING BRIAN SUGGESTED, WHICH IS, IT HAS A SHUT OFF 10:00 OR 11:00, WHATEVER TIME. BUT IF THERE'S AN EVENT GOING ON, MEANING THE FIELD LIGHTS ARE ON, THEN THAT THEY CAN STAY ON UNTIL THAT CONCLUDES. THAT SETS THOSE PARAMETERS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE. IF YOU LIVE RIGHT NEXT TO THE STADIUM, THOSE LIGHTS AND SOUNDS ARE GOING TO BE YOU'RE GOING TO HEAR THEM [OVERLAPPING] AND NOTICE THEM. >> [INAUDIBLE] IT'S NOT GOING TO BE. >> I LIVE NEAR A STADIUM. >> I MEAN, SOMETIMES WE HAVE OUR OWN LIGHTS ON WELL, NOT HERITAGE, BUT IN JIA THERE BAKERSFIELD, AND THERE ARE NO GAMES GOING ON. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE LIGHTS ARE OFF UNLESS THERE'S AN ACTIVE EVENT GOING. >> THAT'S FAIR. >> GOOD WITH THAT. >> BUT IF IT NEEDS TO GO BEYOND THE HOURS THAT WE SAID BECAUSE THE GAMES IN OVERTIME OR SOMETHING, THEN. THAT WOULD BE FINE. >> THE LATER CONSIDERATION. THE LATER OF THE GAME CONCLUSION OR REALLY. >> THAT'S RIGHT. OR YOU CAN DO IT THE EARLIER OF IF YOU WANT A HARD STOP, ESSENTIALLY AT 11:00 P. M. REGARDLESS IF THE GAME GOES INTO DOUBLE OVERTIME. >> [INAUDIBLE]. >> THIS IS STILL A PUBLIC HEARING. >> WE DON'T CUT IT OFF IN THE [INAUDIBLE]. >> WE'RE NOT MAKING A MOTION YET. IT'S A PUBLIC HEARINGS. >> WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING. >> DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> THANK YOU. SINCE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS ITEM? DOES ANYBODY WISH TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? NO ONE WISHES TO DO THAT, SO I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. DOES ANYONE WISH ON COUNSEL TO DELIBERATE ANY FURTHER, OR WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? >> I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM COMING BACK IN A YEAR. THE REASON FOR THAT IS, LET'S SEE HOW IT WORKS. IT MIGHT WORK FINE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE. THEY MIGHT WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO HAVE A TOUCH POINT TO SEE FROM THE DISTRICT PERSPECTIVE, FROM COUNSEL PERSPECTIVE, IS THIS WORKING TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS? MAYBE JUST DO A ONE YEAR LOOK AND THEN IF EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD NEXT YEAR, THEN WE APPROVE IT IN PERPETUITY. BUT I THINK DOING IT FOR ONE YEAR WOULD BE GOOD TO TRY IT OUT AND SEE HOW A FULL SEASON GOES. I'M FLEXIBLE ON THAT, BUT THAT'S WHERE I WOULD THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. >> JUST THE FIRST YEAR. >> I WOULD SUGGEST IF THE REEXAMINATION IS [01:35:03] MERELY INVOLVING THE ELIMINATION AND NOT THE SIZE OF THE SIGN. >> YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO BACK AND REDO A SIGN. YOU OKAY WITH THAT ELIMINATION? THEN YOU ALL DECIDED IT WOULD BE GOOD OR ARE YOU THINKING IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE IT BE AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT? >> YEAH. >> IT MAY ONLY BE ON DURING EVENTS. NOT LIKE EVERY NIGHT OF THE WEEK, JUST TO SAY, HERE WE ARE. JUST DURING AN EVENT TO BE TURNED OFF AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT? >> I THINK WE HAVE A MOTION IN. >> I'LL TRY IT UNLESS BRIAN, DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? >> GO RIGHT AHEAD. >> WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K3 WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THE ILLUMINATION OF SIGN A3 BE SUBJECT TO A ONE YEAR REVIEW, AND THE LIGHTING OF SIGN A3 IS ONLY PERMISSIBLE DURING EVENTS AND MUST BE TURNED OFF AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EVENT. >> JUST TO CLARIFY THE REVIEW IS JUST FOR THE ELIMINATION. >> JUST FOR THE ILLUMINATION. >> SECOND. >> SECOND. >> WE'LL TAKE THE ROLL CALL. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL? >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> ITEM K3 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR WORK SESSION TONIGHT. [L. WORK SESSION ITEM ] WE DO A SERIES OF WHAT'S CALLED OUR VALUE OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES. ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ARE COMING FORWARD AND PRESENTING ON THIS PAST YEARS PROGRESS, WHAT THEY'VE WORKED ON, AND THIS HELPS US WITH PLANNING FOR OUR NEXT STRATEGIC AND BUDGET PLANNING FOR THE NEXT YEAR. >> MAYOR, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FIRST, MATT WOODS. HE'S GOING TO GO OVER OUR ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT, AND THEN AFTER THAT, AND I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND FOR OUR NEXT SPEAKER, BILLY STERNER IN OUR FLEET OPERATION. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I'LL TURN OVER TO MATT. >> COULD I SAY SOMETHING JUST QUICKLY? I APOLOGIZE. SINCE THERE IS NO CLOSED SESSION, UNLESS YOU WANT TO PAY ME TO WATCH THE FLEET SERVICES AND ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, I WANT TO SAY MERRY CHRISTMAS. >> I THINK YOU CAN GO. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR. >> SEE YOU NEXT YEAR. >> THANK YOU, JAMES. THANKS, BREN, I THINK. MATT WOODS, DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, AND WITH ME UNLESS THEY LEFT KRISTA CROW OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS MANAGER AND EDDIE V PONDO. HE'S OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MANAGER. THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, TOO. REAL QUICK, JUST TO GO OVER THE MISSION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. WE'RE HERE TO PROVIDE QUALITY SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE PROTECTION AND PROMOTION OF HEALTH, SAFETY, WELFARE, PROPERTY VALUES, AND ENVIRONMENT FOR THE TOWN. THEN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, WE HAVE THREE DIVISIONS. WE HAVE THE PROPERTY STANDARDS OR CODE ENFORCEMENT. COMMONLY, I'LL REFER TO BOTH THROUGHOUT THIS PRESENTATION. THE DIVISION IS CALLED PROPERTY STANDARDS, BUT IT'S THE CODE ENFORCEMENT DIVISION AS WELL. THEY'RE THE SAME. THEN WE HAVE EHS, WHICH IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND THEN WE HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES, UNIQUE. THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, SO I'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THEIR METRICS, PROGRAMS, AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS. HERE'S OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART, A TOTAL OF 18 FTES, OR EMPLOYEE STAFF IN THIS DEPARTMENT, DIRECTOR AND ADMIN. THEN YOU SEE ON THE LEFT THERE, WE HAVE OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS MANAGER. THAT'S KRISTA. SIX PROPERTY STANDARD SPECIALIST, TWO OF THOSE ARE SENIOR PROPERTY STANDARD SPECIALIST. NEXT, WE HAVE THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DIVISION WITH EDDIE IS OUR ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH MANAGER. WE HAVE A SENIOR EHS SPECIALIST, AN E-H-S, ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH SPECIALIST, AN ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE INSPECTOR, AND ENVIRONMENTAL TECHNICIAN. THEN ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES ARE THE LAST GROUP THERE ON THE RIGHT. WE HAVE URBAN FORESTRY, STORMWATER, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS COORDINATOR, AND AN ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE SPECIALIST. THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT ARE FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, THEY INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE THE TOWN'S CODE OF ORDINANCES, A WIDE VARIETY OF ORDINANCES, ANYTHING FROM ZONING TO SIMPLE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ISSUES TO NUISANCE STANDARDS. THEY ALSO LEAD A VARIETY OF NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROGRAMS. OUR EHS TEAM, THEY INSPECT THE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, ONSITE SEWAGE FACILITIES, PERMIT SWIMMING POOLS AND INSPECTORS, WATER WELLS, GREASE TRAPS, AND THEY ALSO ADMINISTER THE MOSQUITO CONTROL PROGRAM. A LOT GOING ON IN EHS AS WELL. ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. [01:40:01] THEY DO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL PLAN INTERVIEW, THEY ADMINISTER THE TREE ORDINANCE, AND THAT'S OUR URBAN FORESTRY GROUP. THAT'S JAKE SPECKLES, WHO YOU'VE SEEN PRESENT HERE. HE REVIEWS THE TREE SURVEYS. HE DOES THE FIELD INSPECTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS AND PERMITS. THEN WITHIN ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES, WE ALSO HAVE THAT STORMWATER POSITION. THEY BASICALLY ADMINISTER THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THE STORMWATER PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE PUBLIC SIDE, WHICH IS PUBLIC WORK FOR STORMWATER, THEN WE HAVE THE DEVELOPMENT SIDE, WHICH IS ENVIRONMENTAL. WE ALSO HAVE GAS WELL PERMITTING INSPECTIONS. I NOTE THAT HERE UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT WAS HOUSED. WE HAVE SINCE TRANSITIONED THAT POSITION OVER TO ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. THAT IS NOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE INSPECTOR. THAT'S DUE TO THE MAJORITY OF THOSE AT ONE POINT TIME, 18 GAS WELLS HAVE BEEN PLUGGED AND ABANDONED. WE'RE DOWN TO TWO, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY JUST PAPERWORK NOW. THIS POSITION HAS TRANSITIONED TO GREASE TRAP INSPECTIONS, WHICH WE TOOK OVER FROM PUBLIC WORKS, AND THEY ALSO DO OUR OSSF PROGRAM. THEY'LL DO ON-SITE FOOD FACILITIES, GREASE TRAPS, AND THEY ALSO ASSIST WITH THE MOSQUITO PROGRAM. MOVING ON TO NUMBER 4 THERE. A BIG PART OF ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES IS EDUCATION AND OUTREACH. WE CONDUCT MULTIPLE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS FOR EDUCATION, AND THEN WE WORK WITH THE ECC ON THE SUSTAINABILITY INITIATIVES AS WELL. FINALLY, WE HAVE HANNA PEREZ, IF SHE IS OUR ADMIN, AND SHE COORDINATES AND ISSUES SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. NOW, WE HAVE THESE THREE OBJECTIVES THAT WE'RE LINKED TO OR WE HAVE A HAND IN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. THE FIRST IS OPEN SPACE ACQUISITION AND STRATEGIES. THIS WAS FROM LAST YEAR'S STRATEGIC PLAN. OBJECTIVE 3.1. OUR ROLE WOULD PRIMARILY BE IDENTIFYING NATURAL AREAS, NATURAL HABITAT, THAT WOULD BE JAKE AND URBAN FORESTRY. OBJECTIVE 4.2 IS A NEW ONE FOR FY '25-'26. THAT ONE IS INVOLVED WITH DEVELOPING THAT FRAMEWORK TO ENGAGE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS. CODE ENFORCEMENT ALREADY DOES THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THIS IS LOOKING AT IMPROVING THIS, REALLY ENGAGING THOSE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS NEXT YEAR, KRISTA'S TEAM WILL BE HEAVILY INVOLVED WITH THIS ONE. THEN FINALLY, IS THE ONGOING ONE TREE PROTECTION AND PLANTING, THOSE OBJECTIVES WITHIN THE STRATEGIC PLAN, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCE GROUP, JAKE ECC, AND PARKS WERE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN THAT. NOW, ON TO SOME ACCOMPLISHMENTS. ANY QUESTIONS YET? FEEL FREE TO STOP ME. ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND GOALS. FOR 2025, I'LL HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THESE CODE AND EHS, THEY MET THEIR INSPECTION AND PERMITTING GOALS FOR THE YEAR. WE CONTINUED OUR DIVISIONAL PROGRAMS TO GIVE AWAY TREES. WE INITIATED THE TREE REBATE PROGRAM, WHICH COUNCIL APPROVED THIS YEAR, SO FAR SO GOOD, IT'S GOING WELL. WE KICKED IT OFF IN LATE OCTOBER EARLY NOVEMBER. I BELIEVE, WE'VE HAD 17 APPLICATIONS TO DATE, SO GOOD START, AND IT WILL GO THROUGH MAY. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE CONTINUE TO OUR TREE PLANTING INITIATIVES. ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION OUTREACH CONTINUES. WE VISIT MULTIPLE LIST CAMPUSES, I'LL HAVE A METRIC HERE IN A MINUTE TO SHOW YOU THE NUMBERS. WE GO TO OTHER LOCATIONS AS WELL. SUBMITTED OUR FIVE-YEAR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN TO TCQ. THAT WAS A HUGE UNDERTAKING IN COORDINATION WITH PUBLIC WORKS. WE DID GET AUDITED THIS YEAR BY THE TCQ, AND WE PASSED THAT AUDIT AUDIT, WE GOT OUR COMPLIANCE LETTER. FINALLY, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS ONE BECAUSE KRISTA'S TEAM. IN ADDITION TO MEETING ALL THOSE GOALS FOR CODE VIOLATIONS ADDRESSED IN CASES, THEY DO ENGAGE NEIGHBORHOODS AS BEST WE CAN. IT'S CHALLENGING, SOMETIMES, THE HAS ARE A LITTLE EASIER BECAUSE YOU HAVE CONTACT POINTS. FOR THE ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NO HA, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER, BUT REACHED OUT. WE DO HAVE OUR HA LEADERSHIP WORKSHOP. WE'VE DONE THE TRI CITY NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT. WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THAT WITH LEWISVILLE AND COPPELL, I THINK SOME COUNSEL HAVE BEEN TO THOSE. THOSE HAVE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND WE'LL CONTINUE THOSE. GOING ON TO 2026, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK ON THOSE EDUCATION AND OUTREACH INITIATIVES. EDDIE AND HIS TEAM, THEY ARE LOOKING TOWARDS IMPLEMENTING A HOMEOWNER SEPTIC EDUCATION PROGRAM. THAT'LL BE A GOOD EXCELLENT PROGRAM, AND I'LL SHOW SOME NUMBERS HERE IN A MINUTE WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING TO GET MORE SEPTIC SYSTEMS IN THE TOWN. IT'S THE NATURE OF IT IN THE CROSS TIMBER. WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A PROGRAM, WHERE WE EDUCATE FOLKS ON BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE AT YOUR HOUSE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO REVIEW ORDINANCES, UPDATE ORDINANCES AS NEEDED. KRISTA HER TEAM, THEY HAVE A GOAL HERE NUMBER 4 TO CONDUCT INSPECTIONS OF ALL APARTMENT COMPLEXES. IT'S A LARGE UNDERTAKING, BUT WE'LL COORDINATE THAT WITH OUR FIRE MARSHALS OFFICE. I THINK THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL TO LOOK AT PRIORITIZE AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE ESTABLISHED OLDER APARTMENT COMPLEXES FIRST AND WORK UP, AND BASICALLY CONDUCT EXTERIOR INSPECTIONS OF ALL THOSE THIS YEAR, OR IN 2026. WE'RE LOOKING AT UPDATING THE NEIGHBORHOOD RESOURCES WEB PAGE AND HA RESOURCE WEB PAGE. THEN FINALLY THERE, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND [01:45:03] ECC ON IDENTIFYING SOME LOCATIONS TO ENHANCE WILDFLOWER PLANTINGS. PROBABLY A PILOT PROGRAM SOON. WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM NOW. THE ECC FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE THEY'RE LOOKING AT SOME LOCATIONS, AND WE'RE SETTING UP A MEETING WITH THE PARK STAFF TO LOOK AT THOSE LOCATIONS. HERE'S OUR FIVE-YEAR STAFFING PLAN. THIS COVERS ALL CURRENTLY ALL THOSE 18 FTES. YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN THERE IN THE TABLE. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE AND THIS IS, OBVIOUSLY, BASED ON GROWTH AND PROGRAMS. WE DON'T ANTICIPATE GROWTH OR ADDING ADDITIONAL STAFF UNTIL '28, '29 POTENTIALLY, THAT WOULD BE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH. THEN MAYBE AN ADDITIONAL CODE OFFICER IN 2930. THE LAST TIME WE ADDED A CODE OFFICER WAS LAST YEAR, PRIOR TO THAT WAS 2012 BEFORE WE ADDED ANYBODY. HERE'S SOME METRICS. NOW, THIS IS A SNAPSHOT FOR PROPERTY STANDARDS IN EHS. THE BAR GRAPH, ON THE LEFT, IS A 2025 CALENDAR YEAR. WHAT THAT SHOWS IS THAT'S THE TYPICAL DISTRIBUTION BY QUARTER. FOURTH QUARTER IS A LITTLE LOWER. WE ARE FILLING TWO VACANCIES RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S THAT IT TYPICALLY IS, BUT THE FOURTH QUARTER IS A LITTLE LOWER USUALLY ON CASELOAD. BUT OUT OF THOSE APPROXIMATELY 500 CASES, YOU COULD HAVE A SIMPLE ONE HYBRIDS AND GRASS FOR A PROPERTY OWNER NEEDS TO CUT THE GRASS AND THEY COMPLY. OR YOU COULD HAVE THEM GET MORE COMPLICATED. IT COULD GO TO COURT, IT COULD BE A PROPERTY SEIZURE. IT COULD BE A DANGEROUS BUILDING, COULD BE SOMETHING MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAT TAKES TIME. THERE'S JUST A WIDE RANGE OF CASELOAD. OUT OF THOSE 3,500, THERE'S DEFINITELY A PERCENTAGE THAT ARE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING THAT MAY GO TO COURT. TAKE TIME. WE TRY TO UPDATE THE COMPLAINANTS AS OFTEN AS WE CAN AND LET THEM KNOW THE PROCESS. >> DOES THAT CARRY OVER FROM ONE QUARTER TO THE NEXT, IF IT'S PROLONGED OR ARE THESE JUST NEW PER QUARTER? >> NEW PER QUARTER BECAUSE THAT'S THE CASE OPEN DURING THAT QUARTER. IT COULD CARRY OVER TO THE NEXT YEAR. BUT IT'S CAPTURED HERE IN THE QUARTER. AS I NOTED THERE, 66% OF THE CASES ARE PROACTIVE. THE VAST MAJORITY OF RESIDENTIAL, BUT WE ALSO DO COMMERCIAL CODE ENFORCEMENT. THAT COULD BE LANDSCAPING, THAT COULD BE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SIGNAGE. IT'S RUNS THE GAMUT THERE. THAT MIDDLE BAR GRAPH IS THE CASE TOTALS. PROBABLY AN AVERAGE FIVE-YEAR AVERAGE AROUND 3,500 CASES. WE DID ADD THAT CODE OFFICER IN 2025, BUT WE'RE A LITTLE SHORT STAFFED THIS YEAR, I WOULD SAY ON AVERAGE, A CODE OFFICER CARRIES ABOUT 600-700 CASES PER YEAR. IT'S QUITE A BIT, THEY'RE VERY BUSY MOVING ON TO HEALTH. HEALTH INSPECTION TOTALS, YOU CAN SEE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEIR INSPECTIONS ARE FOOD RELATED FOOD ESTABLISHMENT RESTAURANTS. THE SECOND LARGEST PROGRAM THERE IS THE OSSF PROGRAM, AND THAT'S DUE TO, OBVIOUSLY, AS SUBDIVISIONS COME IN IN THE NON SEWED AREA AND THE CROSS TIMBERS, THEY'RE GOING TO NEED SEPTIC OR ON-SITE SEWAGE FACILITIES. WHAT GOES WITH THAT ARE INS PERMITTING AND PAPERWORK. THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO THREE INSPECTIONS A THIRD-PARTY DOES THREE INSPECTIONS ANNUALLY. SMITH THOSE INSPECTION REPORTS TO THE TOWN. WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN THAT RECORD. THAT'S THE PAPERWORK SIDE. THEN THERE'S ALSO PERMITTING IN THAT INITIAL INSPECTION. LARGE PROGRAM AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW. NEXT WOULD BE TEMPORARY FOOD PERMITS. THAT'S, BASICALLY, ATTEMPT FOOD PERMIT FOR AN EVENT. THEN YOU HAVE SWIMMING POOLS AND THEN MOBILE FOOD VENDORS. ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE METRICS? THIRD DIVISION IS ENVIRONMENTAL RESOURCES. IT'S THAT UNIQUE GROUP THAT CROSSES OVER FROM URBAN FORESTRY TO STORMWATER TO ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. HERE I JUST CAPTURED SOME OF THE INSPECTION REVIEWS AND PROJECT REVIEWS THAT ARE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATION PROCESS. JAKE AND KAYLA, URBAN FORESTRY AND STORMWATER, THEY BOTH REVIEW DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS AND PERMITS. JAKE'S ALSO IN URBAN FORESTRY INVOLVED WITH THE TREE GIVEAWAY PROGRAM. HE WORKS WITH PARKS ON THE PLANTING EVENTS LIKE THAT THE 45 TREES, HE JUST PLANTED AT SHADOWING, COORDINATING WITH STRATEGIC SERVICES AND PARKS ON THAT EVENT AND ADDITIONAL ARBORETUM PLANTINGS. IN ADDITION TO PLAN REVIEW INSPECTIONS, OUTREACH AND TREE PLANTING IS A PRIORITY FOR JAKE AS WELL. ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION. THAT'S OUR SECOND GRADE PROGRAM, THAT FIRST BULLET. WE TRIED TO GET EVERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL DURING THE CALENDAR YEAR. IN 2025, WE MADE IT THE 10 ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND VISITED 956 SECOND GRADE STUDENTS. THAT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. WE BRING IN STAFF FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS, WE TRY TO CROSS TRAIN FOLKS, AND GET FOLKS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN DOING THAT FOR A MORNING. IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM TO GET OUT THERE AND EDUCATE THE KIDS. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE CONDUCTED 27 OTHER OUTREACH EVENTS. WE SUPPORT KFMB IN THEIR PROGRAMS AND THEIR SPRING AND FALL CLEANUPS, AND WE'VE ESTABLISHED POLLINATOR GARDENS AT THE ARBORETUM. [01:50:03] FINALLY, THERE WERE STORMWATER, SIMILAR TO URBAN FORESTRY, CONDUCTING INSPECTIONS AND REVIEWS OF SWIPS, THE STORMWATER PROTECTION PLANS, THAT FIVE-YEAR STORMWATER PLAN I MENTIONED, AND THEN SUBMITTED THAT ANNUAL PERMIT TO TCQ. IN ADDITION TO THAT, STORMWATER ALSO, ALONG WITH PUBLIC WORKS, THEY HAVE A STORMWATER POSITION OVER THERE, TOO, AND THEY WORK TOGETHER TO GO TO DO EDUCATION AT THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS. THEY VISITED 1,200 PLUS SEVENTH GRADERS. THEY GO TO THE MIDDLE SCHOOLS AND DO STORMWATER EDUCATION. >> YOU GUYS WENT TO MY DAUGHTER'S ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SHE WAS SUPER EXCITED. >> OH, GOOD. >> GOOD. >> THEY DO A GOOD JOB. THE KIDS LOVE IT. WE GIVE AWAY A TREE. >> SHE BROUGHT IT HOME. SHE GOT IT. WE PLANTED IT. >> IS IT STILL ALIVE? >> I THINK THE LEAVES HAVE FALLEN OFF SINCE IT'S COLD NOW, BUT WE'LL SEE IF IT COMES BACK. >> BOB PEG STILL TELLS ME HE HAS HIS FROM WHEN HIS SON WAS IN SECOND GRADE ANY MANY YEARS AGO, AND IT'S IN HIS BACK YARD. FINANCIAL REVENUE VERSUS COST OF SERVICES. OBVIOUSLY, ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES DOESN'T BRING IN A LOT OF REVENUE, BUT WE HAVE OUR FOOD PERMITS AND THAT GREEN SLIVER THEY'RE OUT OF THE PIE. THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE SEPTIC PERMITS. IT'S A SMALL CHUNK OF THAT IT'S I THINK AROUND $9,000 OUT OF THAT 144. ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAS THAT AND THEN THE POOL PUBLIC POOL PERMITS AT 9,000. OIL AND GAS IS GOING AWAY AFTER THIS YEAR, THAT 29,000 WAS FOR THE REMAINING SEVEN PAD SITES OR SEVEN GAS WELLS. NEXT YEAR, WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT REVENUE IN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. THEN FINALLY, THE TREE PERMITS, AND THOSE ARE FOR TREE REMOVAL PERMITS, THAT 214. FINALLY, THE COST OF SERVICES. THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET IS JUST UNDER 1.9 MILLION, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY PERSONNEL COST, AND THAT'S 1.9 0.5% OF THE GENERAL FUND. I BELIEVE OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS AROUND 178 OR 180,000. WE DID NOT SUBMIT ANY FUNDING REQUESTS THIS YEAR. AS I MENTIONED IN THE STAFFING SLIDE, THAT MAY BE DEPENDING ON GROWTH, PROGRAMS, ETC, THERE COULD BE A STAFFING REQUEST IN FUTURE YEARS, AND MAYBE TECHNOLOGY RELATED REQUESTS TO IMPROVE TECHNOLOGY FOR FIELD STAFF DOWN THE ROAD. THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. KRISTA, WILL I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS? NO. >> COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> I HAD ONE ON THE CODE AND EHS UPDATES. YOU MENTIONED EDUCATION. DO WE DO EDUCATION FOR CONTRACTORS OR BUSINESSES TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE UP TO CODE, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> LIKE AT THE C LIKE THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY STAGE OR? >> WELL, I GUESS EVEN LIKE UPDATES. IF LET'S SAY THERE'S CHANGES IN THE CODE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS. HOW DO THEY GET THOSE UPDATES? DO WE EDUCATE THEM, OR IS IT COMING PUMPING ASSOCIATIONS, OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? >> IT PROBABLY DEPENDS ON THE CODE AND WHAT'S BEING UP NOT DIRECTLY THAT I CAN THINK OF OFF TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT LIKE WHEN JOEL BRINGS FORWARD ALL THE IRC OR ALL THOSE CODE AMENDMENTS. THOSE BUILDERS ARE WELL AWARE OF THOSE. FOR SOME OTHER ONES THAT ARE JUST LIKE TOWN SPECIFIC, I CAN'T THINK OF A GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE HAVE EDUCATED OR DONE A PACKET FOR SOMETHING LIKE A NEW BUSINESS OWNER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. >> DO WE DO ANYTHING FOR RESIDENTIAL EDUCATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY HIRE PLUMBER, THAT HE ACTUALLY PULLS THE PERMIT? >> JOEL HAS SOMETHING ON. >> GOING BACK TO THE JUST GENERAL CODE AMENDMENTS, AS YOU KNOW, LEXIN IS USUALLY THE GROUP THAT PLANNING, USUALLY, BRINGS THOSE FORWARD. SOMETIMES, WHEN WE'VE HAD OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, WE BROUGHT THOSE FORWARD AS A RESULT OF THAT ENGAGEMENT. YOU MAY RECALL WE HAD MAYBE BEEN LAST YEAR, WE BROUGHT SOME PROPOSALS TO COUNCIL. THAT'S ONE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND FLOWER MOUND IS AWARE THAT WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD ANY AMENDMENTS. ALSO, ANYTHING THAT WE BRING FORWARD REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT AS OF TODAY, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SET UP DIRECTLY TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT GROUP. IS SOMETHING WE DEFINITELY LOOK INTO. AS FAR AS EDUCATION FOR PLUMBERS AND ELECTRICIANS, THEY DO HAVE CERTIFICATES AND LICENSES, SO THEY SHOULD BE WELL AWARE THAT THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING REQUIRES A PERMIT. WE DO HAVE RESOURCES ON OUR WEB PAGE FOR RESIDENTS TO KNOW WHAT IS REQUIRED OR IF A PERMIT IS REQUIRED. ANY HOMEOWNER COULD CHECK THAT INFORMATION, OR BUILDING INSPECTIONS WEB PAGE. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ALSO HAVING INTERNAL DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO BETTER ENGAGE LIKE SMALL BUSINESS, FOR EXAMPLE. WE HOPE TO BRING THOSE IDEAS FORWARD TO THE COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE. [01:55:03] BUT AS I MENTIONED, MOST OF OUR RESOURCES ARE ON OUR WEB PAGE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE KNOW WHAT REQUIRES A PERMIT, AND THEN THAT PERMITTING PROCESS. >> I FEEL A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK PULLING A PERMIT IS A HASSLE, BUT REALISTICALLY IT'S INSPECTION TO MAKE SURE THE WORK WAS DONE PROPERLY, AND MOST OF OUR RESIDENTS DON'T KNOW THAT IT WAS DONE RIGHT OR NOT CORRECT. >> ONE OBJECTIVE OF THAT SEPTIC EDUCATION PROGRAM. THAT'S HOMEOWNER FOCUS. THEY KNOW WHAT'S IN THEIR YARD. THEY KNOW WHAT SHOULD BE HAPPENING THREE TIMES A YEAR WITH THEIR INSPECTION FROM THE THIRD-PARTY. THAT'S THE GOAL OF THAT ONE FOR US. >> I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT PEST CONTROL. >> IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION ABOUT SPRAYING AND CONTAMINATING RODENTS. >> SITES. >> AND HOW THAT AFFECTS OUR SCREECH HOUSE. IS THERE ANY MOVEMENT ON THAT? WHAT ARE WE DOING TO PROTECT THAT? THEN ALSO THE SPRAYING FOR MOSQUITOES? ARE THERE ANY OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE? I KNOW WE DO SPRING, WHAT A COUPLE OF TIMES A YEAR. I BELIEVE AND THAT'S ANNOUNCED, BUT I KNOW PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION AS SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT AND IF THERE'S ANY OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE HAVE TO HAVE MOSQUITO CONTROL. >> SURE. AND ON THE ROAD SIDE, THAT'S CHALLENGING BECAUSE TO AVOID AN INFESTATION, WHETHER IT'S A COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT OR EVEN IF YOU HAVE IN A NEIGHBORHOOD AND YOU'RE GETTING YOUR GARAGE OR WHATEVER. WE DEFINITELY TRY THE EDUCATION APPROACH FIRST LIKE, "DON'T LEAVE WATER OUT, DON'T LEAVE BIRD SEED OUT." SIMPLE THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT ONCE YOU'RE GETTING MULTIPLE RODENTS, WHETHER IT'S A FOOD ESTABLISHMENT OR SOME OTHER COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, THE RODENTICIDE IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL. NOW, THE SECONDARY POISONING OBVIOUSLY IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN AVOID BY USING LOWER DOSES. BUT BEYOND USING A RODENTICIDE, THERE'S REALLY NOT AN EFFECTIVE TOOL OUT THERE TO PREVENT AN INFESTATION. NOW, YOU DON'T NEED THAT. EVERYBODY DOESN'T NEED THAT OBVIOUSLY. THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A SOURCE, THEY'RE EITHER THERE, YOU KNOW THEY'RE THERE AND THERE'S A PROBLEM. AND THOSE ARE THOSE BATES STATIONS YOU'RE PROBABLY REFERRING TO. >> YEAH. >> AND MAYOR, IF I COULD, WE SENT AN EMAIL TO YOU ALL BACK IN MAY. WE CAN CERTAINLY REFRESH THAT AND SEND THAT AGAIN JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFRESH ON THAT, BUT WE SENT OUT THE INFORMATION AND BROKE DOWN OUR ANALYSIS AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY RESEND IT. >> YEAH. I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE OUT THERE. >> AND ON MOSQUITOES. WE DID SPRAY, I BELIEVE, FOUR TIMES, IS THAT CORRECT, EDDIE? FOUR TIMES LAST YEAR. WE SET ABOUT 180 TRAPS, OUT MOSQUITO TRAPS TO CHECK FOR WEST NILE. WE DO SPRAY. WE DO THE GROUND SPRAYING. IT'S A VERY LOW VOLUME, AND WE DO IT CONCENTRATED IN THAT AREA WHERE WE FIND WEST NILE VIRUS THAT'S LAB CONFIRMED. THEY WILL SPRAY AN AREA AT NIGHT WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T OUT OR ACTIVE. THE RESIDUAL IS NOT A LONG TIME, IT'S A CONTACT INSECTICIDE. YOU'RE HOPING TO GET THOSE MOSQUITOES WHEN THEY'RE ACTIVE AT THAT TIME. BUT THAT IS BASED ON A POSITIVE WEST NILE SAMPLE. THE MAJORITY, I WOULD SAY, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, IT'S INTERESTING. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ASKING US TO SPRAY MORE. REALLY FOR NUISANCE MOSQUITOES AND WE TELL WE DO NOT SPRAY FOR NUISANCE MOSQUITOES. WE DON'T HAVE A TRUCK DRIVING AROUND TOWN. IT'S CONCENTRATED IN AN AREA WHEN WE HAVE POSITIVE CASES. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT PROGRAM. >> I THINK THE EDUCATION HAS BEEN REALLY GREAT ABOUT HOW TO DETER MOSQUITOES FROM PROPAGATING IN YOUR OWN BACKYARD. THEN ALSO, I HAVE NOTICED THE SIGNAGE, WHICH IS VERY GOOD AND VERY CONSISTENT THAT WARNS PEOPLE WHEN THE SPRAYING IS DUE TO OCCUR AND LETS PEOPLE PREPARE APPROPRIATELY. >> YEAH, IT DOES. >> WE DO HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON OUR NOSE SPRAY LIST, SO YOU CAN GET ON A NO SPRAY LIST AND THE SPRAYER WILL, AND WE CAN GET THE DATA FROM THEM. THEY SHUT DOWN THE SPRAY BEFORE AND AFTER THEIR HOUSE TO EITHER ONE OR TWO HOUSES BEFORE. THEY'RE NOT SPRAYING AT THEIR PROPERTY, WHETHER IT'S A BEEKEEPER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU CAN GET ON A NO SPRAY LIST CONTACT EDDIE AND HE WILL PUT YOU ON THE LIST. >> OH, MY GOSH. ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT [INAUDIBLE]. >> I THINK I THINK WE'RE ON THE LIST. YOU NEVER FALL OFF THE LIST, IS THAT CORRECT? HOPING BECAUSE WE HAVE BEES ALSO. >> YEAH, FOR B KEEPERS AT. AND WE SEND OUT I THINK IT'S TO A FACEBOOK PAGE. WE SENT OUT A NOTICE THAT, "HEY, WE'RE SPRAYING CONTACT US IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS." BUT WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK TO MAKE SURE. YOU SHOULD NOT FALL OFF THE LIST UNLESS YOU CHOOSE TO. >> THERE'S ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT THE RODENTICIDE. I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ALSO, SECONDARY POISONING. WE DO HAVE LIVESTOCK AND WE DO HAVE RODENT PROBLEMS. WE HAVE STARTED EXPERIMENTING WITH RAT BIRTH CONTROL. SO FAR WE'VE HAD FAIRLY GOOD RESULTS. THERE'S NEW THINGS COMING OUT. >> EDDIE ADD THAT TO YOUR LIST. [02:00:02] >> ALSO ADDING TO THAT, ARE THERE WAYS WE CAN ADVOCATE TO RESIDENTS TO DO BAT BOXES OR OWL BOXES TO TRY AND HELP CONTROL RODENT POPULATIONS AND MOSQUITO POPULATIONS. >> SURE. THOSE ARE OPTIONS ARE NATURAL PREDATORS. THE EFFECTIVENESS HARD TO SAY. >> I MEAN, IF IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S SOME STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT IT CAN HELP REDUCE THE POPULATION OR AT LEAST MAINTAIN IT BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NATURAL PREDATORS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HELP GROW THOSE POPULATIONS. >> YEAH. I'M HAPPY TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS AND WAY TO GET THE WORD OUT AND EDUCATE. YEAH, CERTAINLY. >> LIKE THEY DO IN AUSTIN, THEY HAVE THE BAT AREA. >> YEAH. AUSTIN HAS THE BRIDGE AND THE CAVES. >> MATT, IF A BUSINESS LETS THEIR LANDSCAPE DIE OFF. WHEN DOES THAT COME TO THE ATTENTION OF THE TOWN? WHAT DO WE DO? WHAT KIND OF ACTION DOES THAT RESULT IN? >> IT'S THROUGH THEIR COMPLAINT OR PROACTIVE. IF A CODE OFFICERS DRIVE AROUND THERE'S EITHER A DEAD TREE THERE OR MISSING LOOKS LIKE MISSING LANDSCAPING. WE CONTACT THE PROPERTY OWNER OR PROPERTY MANAGER WHO'S EVER RESPONSIBLE. BASICALLY, THE WAY IT STARTS OUT, WE LET THEM KNOW, YOU HAVE A VIOLATION, WE PROVIDE THEM A COPY OF THEIR APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH IS THEY'RE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH THAT PLAN. THAT'S WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS. BUT SOMETHING COULD COME UP WHERE THEY SAY, "WELL, THAT TREE DOESN'T SEEM APPROPRIATE OR IT'S AN OLD SPECIES. WE WANT SOMETHING DIFFERENT OR A DIFFERENT LOCATION BECAUSE THINGS DO CHANGE AND THEY MAY FIND OUT, "NOW THIS IS REALLY MESSING UP THE SIDEWALK OR IT'S AN EASEMENT SOMEWHERE." AND SO WE WILL WORK WITH THEM AND SO YOU CAN SUBMIT IT AMENDED SITE PLAN AMENDED LANDSCAPE PLAN, WHICH GOES THROUGH OUR PARKS TRAILS AND LANDSCAPE GROUP, ALONG WITH CODE ENFORCEMENT. IF APPROVED, THEY CAN REPLANT SOMETHING ELSE A DIFFERENT LOCATION, BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET THAT BASE CODE, THE CODE TO SEE, THEY HAVE STREET YARD TREES THEY HAVE TO HAVE OR WHATEVER NUMBER OF TREES, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET THAT. BUT WE CAN BE FLEXIBLE ON SOME THINGS. STARTING POINT IS THAT APPROVED PLAN. >> THE NEXT DIRECTION THAT WE GIVE TO THEM DURING THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, I REMEMBER WHEN PARKER SQUARE CAME IN AND THEY HAD THESE BIG MATURE TREES AND THEY SAID, "WE NEED TO REPLANT SOME OF THE TREES, BUT NOW THE OTHER TREES ARE SO BIG, WE CAN'T PUT ANOTHER OAK TREE THERE IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE." THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH A MODIFICATION OF THEIR PLAN. IS THAT SOMETHING THE GUIDANCE THAT THEY'RE GIVEN INITIALLY WHEN THOSE ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS ARE? >> THEY SHOULD BE TOLD INITIALLY WHAT THE VIOLATION IS AND EXPLAIN WHAT THE PROCESS IS. WHETHER IF THEY INITIALLY SAY, "WELL, WE DON'T THINK WE CAN MEET THAT." THERE'S A PROCESS. OTHERWISE, IT COULD BE A TIMING THING AS WELL, WE WOULD EDUCATE THEM ON THAT AND TELL THEM GIVE THEM SOME GUIDANCE, IF IT'S MIDDLE OF SUMMER, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE YOU PLANT A TREE. ESPECIALLY IF THERE'S NOT GOOD IRRIGATION THERE. WE CAN WORK WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE EXTENSION. BUT ALL THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN UPFRONT, SO THEY'RE AWARE OF THE PROCESS AND WHAT'S REQUIRED. >> I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE TREES ON 2499 IN BETWEEN FOREST VISTA AND 3040 AND THERE'S I THINK A OIL CHANGE PLACE THERE. AT SOME POINT A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY DECIDED TO PUNT THEM ALL UP TO WHERE THERE WASN'T ONE LEAF UNDER 25 FEET. THEY'RE REAL PRETTY TREES, BUT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE SUN'S JUST BEEN BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THEM BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LEAVES ANYMORE UNDER 25 FEET. NOW THEY'RE ALL THE BARKS FALLEN OFF, AND THEY LOOK LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO DIE. WHEN WE HAVE A TREE THAT EITHER THERE'S TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE, YOU HAVE BAD PRUNING. I KNOW WE'VE PUT OUT GUIDANCE IN THE PAST. THERE'S HOW YOU PRUNE YOUR TREES. MAYBE PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION, MAYBE THEY DON'T. BUT IF THE TREE SEEMS LIKE IT'S DANGEROUS, AND WE HAD A CASE IN DALLAS WHERE I THINK SOMEBODY'S TREE FELL OVER AND LANDED ON A CAR, WHAT DO WE DO TO TRY TO KEEP A TREE FROM BECOMING A DANGER? >> IF WE IDENTIFY THAT SAY IF A CODE OFFICERS DRIVE MINE AND SOMETHING DOESN'T LOOK RIGHT WITH THAT TREE, THEY WOULD ENGAGE OUR ARBORIST, JAKE, AND HE WOULD GO OUT AND LOOK AND SEE IF IT'S A HAZARDOUS TREE. IF IT'S A HAZARDOUS TREE NEEDS TO COME DOWN, WE'D WORK WITH THAT OWNER AND SAY, "THIS TREE, IT'S BEEN COMPROMISED DUE TO POOR PRUNING OR WHATEVER, AND IT LOOKS DANGEROUS," WHETHER IT'S SIDEWALK STREET, THE PROXIMITY MATTERS TOO. WE TELL HIM YOU NEED TO REMOVE THIS TREE AND REPLACE IT WITH AN APPROVED SPECIES. SO IF WE DRIVE BY AND SEE IT, THAT'S ONE WAY IF IT'S PROACTIVE OR WE GET A COMPLAINT OF A HAZARDOUS TREE, IT DOES HAPPEN, AND IT'S USUALLY A DEAD TREE THAT SOMEBODY FEELS IS HAZARDOUS. >> IF WE SEE A LANDSCAPER OUT THERE JUST BUTCHERING A PRUNING JOB, IS THERE ANYTHING WE CAN DO AS A TOWN TO TRY TO SAY, "HEY," OR DO WE JUST SAY YOU HAVE TO REPLACE THE TREE NOW BECAUSE YOU BASICALLY KILLED IT? >> IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEAD TO BE REPLACED OR TO BE DETER DEEMED HAZARDOUS. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SUCH A BAD PRUNING JOB OR SO UNSTABLE THAT OUR ARBORIST WOULD SAY, THIS IS HAZARDOUS AND UNSTABLE. >> PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, UNTIL THEY KILL THAT TREE? >> THEY CAN PRUNE POORLY. WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF STOPPING LANDSCAPER OR A HOMEOWNER FROM PRUNING PROPERTY. >> I HATE TO SEE IT WHEN IT HAPPENS. >> EVEN THE EDUCATED. >> I HATE TO SEE IT, BUT I UNDERSTAND. THANK YOU. >> SURE. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [02:05:04] >> THANK YOU. >> YES KEN. >> MAYOR, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF AN INTRODUCTION AND BILLY, YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY UP FRONT. SO THIS ONGOING SERIES WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAS BEEN REALLY FOCUSED ON THE GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS. AND THE IMPETUS FOR THIS HAS BEEN THAT AS WE KNOW, WE GO INTO THE FY '27 BUDGET PROCESS IS THAT WE MAY BE IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAD TO MAKE PRETTY IMPORTANT DECISIONS. WHEN IT COMES TO OUR SERVICE LEVELS, SO YOU PRIMARILY SEEN OUR GENERAL FUND DEPARTMENTS AND SOME OF OUR LARGER ENTERPRISE FUNDS OR UTILITY FUND PROJECTS. WHAT MAKES THIS PRESENTATION UNIQUE OUR FLEET SERVICES AND INTERNAL SERVICE, AND IT SUPPORTS ALL THESE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF GOOD NATURAL QUESTIONS THAT COME ABOUT OUR FLEET BECAUSE WE SPEND QUITE A BIT OF MONEY ON THOSE. IF YOU LOOK AT OUR AGENDAS, WE'RE SPENDING 100,000 HERE, 200,000 THERE, SO ON AND SO FORTH. I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE QUESTIONS ARE COMING FROM, AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE ALL INTO THE PROCESS. WHAT I WOULD SAY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THIS AT A HIGH LEVEL THIS EVENING. BUT CERTAINLY AS BILLY GOES THROUGH HIS PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, OR WE WANT TO DRILL DEEPER INTO CERTAIN AREAS? ALWAYS REMEMBER WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THOSE AREAS TOO. BUT THIS IS GOOD BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE'RE VERY PEOPLE INTENSIVE AND PEOPLE NEED VEHICLES TO DRIVE IN. THOSE ARE TWO BIG COST DRIVERS FOR US. BILLY HAS A GREAT PRESENTATION TOGETHER WHERE IT'S GOING TO RUN YOU THROUGH SOME OF THESE LARGER COMPONENTS OF OUR FLEET OPERATION AND WE CAN DIVE DEEP AND WE CAN MAKE A DETERMINATION IF WE NEED TO COME BACK ON SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. AND Y'ALL DON'T GET BLESSED LIKE WE DO IN THE LEADERSHIP TEAM WITH BILLY. HE'S A GUY THAT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO FALL ASLEEP DURING ANY OF HIS PRESENTATIONS. HE'S GOING TO KEEP YOU ON YOUR TOES. BUT HE AND HIS TEAM DO A GREAT JOB WITH OUR FLEET, AND HE'S GOING TO WALK YOU AND GIVE YOU A GOOD OVERVIEW OF OUR FLEET OPERATION. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN OVER TO BILLY. >> THANK YOU, JAMES. GOOD EVENING, MARY, COUNSEL. HOW YOU DOING TODAY? GOOD. GLAD TO BE HERE WITH YOU. AS JAMES SAYS, I'M YOUR FLEET SERVICES MANAGER FOR THE FLEET MAINTAIN HERE. OUR CORE FUNCTIONS, WE'RE AN INTERNAL SERVICE PROVIDER. FLEET SERVICES DIVISION TODAY OF FINANCIAL SERVICES COME JANUARY 4TH. WE'RE GOING TO BE PART OF STRATEGIC SERVICES. WE DIRECTLY SUPPORT ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT UTILIZE FLEET ASSETS. PLACE, FIRE, PARKS, WATER, WASTEWATER. EVERYBODY THAT'S GOT A ASSET FOR THE TOWN, WE MAINTAIN SERVICE, QUIET, DISPOSITION, WHAT HAVE YOU. FLEET ASSETS ARE ESSENTIAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS OR DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY, PROVIDE A SERVICE OR FUNCTION TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF FIRE MOUNT AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT THE TOWN SUPPORTS. LIST OF SERVICES LIKE I SAY, WE ACQUIRE THE FLEET, WE AUCTION IT OFF, WHEN WE'RE THROUGH WITH IT. WE DO THE END PROCESSING, THE OUT PROCESSING, DECALING, NUMBERING, THAT KIND OF THING. TITLING REGISTRATION, LICENSING. WE REPAIR IT, WE MAINTAIN IT. WE DO THE STATE INSPECTIONS, TIRE REPAIR, EMISSIONS INSPECTIONS AND TESTING. SOMETHING WE DO THAT A LOT OF ENTITIES, LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS DON'T DO A SMALL ENGINE REPAIR. WE DO THAT AS A FAVOR FOR OUR USER DEPARTMENTS. WE DON'T CHARGE ANY LABOR FOR ANYTHING THAT WE DO. WE KEEP TRACK OF THE TIME AND THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE USE AND WE EXPEND TOWARDS MAINTAIN THE FLEET, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY BUILD THE DEPARTMENTS HERE AT THE TOWN FIRE MOUNT FOR WHAT WE DO. LOT OF TIMES THE SMALL ENGINES, IT COSTS MORE TO REPAIR THEM THAN IT DOES TO REPLACE THEM. IT'S GOOD FOR US TO EVALUATE THAT FORM, SO THEY'RE NOT ARBITRARILY JUST REPLACING, REPLACING, REPLACING, SO THEY SAVE SOME MONEY THERE. FLEET REPORTING INFORMATION, WE HAVE A FLEET MAINTENANCE INFORMATION SYSTEM THAT WE TRACK ALL THE THINGS THAT THE FUEL THAT GOES IN THE REPAIRS THAT WE DO TO THE FLEET, HOW MUCH FUEL THEY GET, HOW MANY MILES THEY TRAVEL, THAT KIND OF THING. GPS MANAGEMENT, SAM SARAH IS OUR PROVIDER FOR THAT. WE PUT THE DEVICES ON, MANAGE THE DEVICES THAT GIVE THE DEPARTMENTS USER DEPARTMENTS ACCESS TO THEIR VEHICLES, THEIR FLEET, SO THEY KNOW WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING. AFTER HOURS AND EMERGENCY FLEET SUPPORT AND WHEN THE PUBLIC WORKS, THE STREETS AND THEY'RE OUT PROVIDING SERVICE WHEN WE HAVE ICE AND SNOW EVENTS OR MAYBE WE'VE GOT WATER MAIN BREAKS, THAT KIND OF THING. WE'RE THERE TO SUPPORT THEM AS WELL, KEEP YOUR FLEET GOING. OUTSIDE VENDOR MANAGEMENT, THAT'S FOR OUR WARRANTY RECALLS AND WE ALSO USE OUTSIDE VENDORS FOR SOME OF OUR REPAIRS. WE'D LIKE TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN THE HOUSE, BUT OBVIOUSLY DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF REPAIR, LIABILITY OF THE REPAIR, THE COST OF REPAIR OR THAT KIND OF THING, WE MAKE THOSE DECISIONS SOMETIMES TO USE OUTSIDE VENDORS TO HELP US OUT WITH THAT. FUEL MANAGEMENT, INVENTORY USAGE, BILLING, CONTRACTS, ORDERING FOR ALL THE TOWN SITES AND FUEL CARS. WE HAVE THREE TOWN SITE, THREE STATIONS THAT WE ORDER FUEL FOR PLUS THE MAIN STATION O&M OVER OFF SPHINX. [02:10:06] WE MAINTAIN MAKE SURE THERE'S FUEL ON THE TANKS, WHEN THE DEPARTMENTS GO TO GET FUEL ON THE VEHICLES THAT THEY ACTUALLY GET FUEL OUT OF IT AND NOT AN EMPTY PUMP. THE FUEL THAT WE GET, YOU'LL SEE A LITTLE EXAMPLE LATER ON, BUT WE GET PRETTY GOOD PRICE ON OUR FUEL. WE GET SOME BULK PRICING, SO WE SAVE THE TOWN MONEY THERE TOO. THAT BRINGS VALUE. I WOULD SAY TO THE TOWN FOR HAVING FLEET TO DO THAT. PARTS INVENTORY MANAGEMENT INVENTORY USAGE AND BILLING. WE KEEP TRACK OF ALL THE PARTS AND PIECES THAT WE PUT ONTO THE VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT WHAT IT COSTS IS WHERE IT CAME FROM. THAT KIND OF THING. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? GOOD TO GO. SOME OF OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR 2025, ASE BLUE SEAL, MAYBE ARE YOU ALL FAMILIAR WITH ASE, EVT. THERE ARE NATIONAL CERTIFICATION AGENCIES THAT CERTIFIED TECHNICIANS, WHETHER THEY'RE PRIVATE OR PUBLIC OR ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THE CERTIFICATION BOARD FOR THAT. FOR THE 16TH YEAR WE'VE WON THIS BEEN RECOGNIZED AS A BLUE SEAL FACILITY. BLUE SEAL FACILITY MEANS THAT 75% OF YOUR TECHNICIANS ARE CERTIFIED IN EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. AT LEAST 20 OF YOUR TECHNICIANS ARE CERTIFIED EVERYTHING THAT YOU DO. YOU HAVE TO HAVE 75% OF THEM CERTIFIED. NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL GOVERNMENTS CLEAN CITY'S BRONZE SLEET AWARD. WE'VE WON THIS BRONZE SLEET AWARD SEVERAL YEARS IN A ROW. ONE YEAR, WE WON THE GOLD. SO BASICALLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT IS AND THERE'S A LOT OF REPORTING. THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT THEY'RE ASKING YOU FOR THIS AND HOW YOU'RE BUYING LOW EMISSION VEHICLES, ALTERNATIVE FUEL VEHICLES. THE TECHNOLOGY IN YOUR VEHICLES THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR FLEET. THAT'S A GOOD THING TO HAVE, BECAUSE THE RECOGNIZE YOU AS DOING GOOD THINGS TO SAVE THE ENVIRONMENT, BE GOOD WITH THE ENVIRONMENT. OUR PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR FISCAL YEAR 25, WE MET OR EXCEEDED THOSE. LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE A FLEET MAIN SYSTEM WHICH IS FASTER. THAT'S THE NAME OF THE SOFTWARE FASTER. FOR MANY YEARS, WE HAD THE FASTER WINDOWS VERSION. THEY STOPPED SUPPORTING THAT IN MAY. THIS PAST MAY, THEY STOPPED SUPPORTING IT. WE HAD TO UPGRADE TO THE WEB VERSION. WE'VE COMPLETED THAT. WE'RE LEARNING ALL THE INS AND OUTS OF THE NEW SOFTWARE NOW, BUT FOR THE MOST PART, IT'S A AN ADVANTAGE FOR US. REDUCE OUTSIDE REPAIR COST, $300,000 REDUCTION AND WHAT WE SPENT ON MAINTAINING SOME OF THE FIRE EQUIPMENT FOR THIS PAST YEAR. IF YOU REMEMBER, I CAME TO YOU ABOUT A YEAR AGO, MAYBE TWO LOOKING FOR A FLEET SERVICES SUPERVISOR TO MAINTAIN THE TECHS OUT IN THE SHOT. THAT'S A BIG DRIVER FOR THAT SAVINGS RIGHT THERE. NOT ONLY IS HE MANAGING REPAIRS BUT HE'S PARTICIPATING IN REPAIRS AS WELL. 2026 GOALS, WE'RE LOOKING TO IDENTIFY ADDITIONAL GPS BENEFITS, EXCEED OUR ESTABLISHED PERFORMANCE MEASURES FOR '26, IMPROVE OUR PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROCESS AND OUR FORMS AND OUR DOCUMENTATION OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT, WHERE THAT INFORMATION IS OBTAINABLE ANYTIME WE NEED IT. IN MY OPINION, OUR PMS THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S TOO MANY OF THEM. THERE'S TOO MANY LETTERS, IT'S COMPLICATED WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IN EACH ONE. WE'RE GOING TO SHORTEN THAT UP TO WHERE WE'RE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT THE REST OF THE INDUSTRY HAS. WE'RE GOING TO UPDATE OUR FLEET PROCEDURE MANUAL, GET IT UP TO DATE WITH TECHNOLOGY IN TODAY'S WORLD. >> READY TO GO. HERE'S SOME OF OUR METRICS FROM PAST YEAR. NUMBER OF WORK ORDERS, 2,408 WORK ORDERS. SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF WORK ORDERS, BUT WHAT THAT NUMBER DON'T TELL YOU, IT DON'T TELL YOU WHAT WE DID ON EACH ONE OF THOSE WORK ORDERS. MAYBE WE OPENED A WORK ORDER AND WE DID A SERVICE, BUT MAYBE THE NEXT WORK ORDER, WE DID A SERVICE, WE DID DECALS, WE DID TIRES, MAYBE WE DID A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S A NUMBER, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT A DEFINITIVE NUMBER THAT DESCRIBES TO YOU THE AMOUNT OF EFFORT AND AMOUNT OF LABOR OF WORK THAT WENT INTO THAT REPAIR. BUT IT'S A METRIC NONETHELESS. SEVENTY-FOUR VERSUS 26, THIS IS PERCENT OF YOUR SCHEDULED VERSUS SCHEDULED REPAIRS. SIXTY, 40 IS LIKE THE BENCHMARK IS WHAT THE STANDARD IS. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WANT 60% OF YOUR WORK THAT YOU DO WOULD BE SCHEDULED WORK, NOT REACTIVE WORK. THAT'S WHAT COMES IN, YOU'RE DOING YOUR PMS, YOUR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, DOING YOUR MAINTENANCE BEFORE YOU HAVE A FAILURE. THE VEHICLE IS GOING TO HAVE DOWNTIME. THE PROBLEM IS OR WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO ACQUIRE THAT DOWNTIME WHEN YOU WANT IT TO BE DONE, NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE JOB SOMEWHERE ON THE JOB SITE. HERE YOU GO. NINETY-SIX PERCENT OF OUR PREFER MAINS IS COMPLETED ON TIME. ACTUALLY, WE'D LIKE TO HAVE 100, BUT 96 IS WITHIN THE NATIONAL BENCHMARK THERE. IT ALL COMES INTO PLAY. THIS FLEET AVAILABILITY, [02:15:01] 95% IS ACTUALLY THE BENCHMARK FOR THAT. IF YOU'RE NOT MAINTAINING YOUR FLEET, AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF REACTIVE REPAIRS, THE VEHICLE IS BREAKING DOWN OUT IN THE FIELD, THE CREWS CAN'T GET THEIR JOB DONE. NOW, THEY'RE WASTED THEIR TIME. NOW THEY GOT TO FIND REPLACEMENT VEHICLE, MAYBE THEY GOT TO RENT A VEHICLE, WHATEVER. WE WANT THE VEHICLE AVAILABLE TO THEM AND WE WANT IT TO BE ABLE TO FORM THE JOB IF THEY NEED TO DO SO WE'RE DELIVERING SERVICES TO THE CITIZENS OF FLOWERMOUND. >> SINCE THE PERCENTAGE OF PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS SO HIGH? IS THAT WHY THE UNSCHEDULED MAINTENANCE THAT'S SO LOW AT 26%? >> ACTUALLY, IT'S THE OTHER WAY AROUND. SEVENTY-FOUR PERCENT IS SCHEDULED. >> SCHEDULED. >> TWENTY-SIX PERCENT IS UNSCHEDULED. >> I JUST FIGURED THAT THAT UNSCHEDULED IS BECAUSE OF UNPREDICTABLE ISSUES. >> THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT ARE UNPREDICTABLE. I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO SCHEDULE EVERYTHING. >> BUT THAT'S A LOW, THAT'S A LOW PERCENTAGE. IS THAT BECAUSE THE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE IS SO HIGH? >> YES. >> THE BILLY UNSCHEDULED WOULD IMPLY THAT THEY BROKE DOWN. >> BROKE DOWN AND YOU'RE HAVING TO REACT TO SOMETHING. >> YOU 60/40 STANDARD. SOMETIMES LIKE SEEING 95% FLEET AVAILABILITY. I WORK IN CALL CENTERS AND YOU LOOK AT HOW MANY CALL CUSTOMERS GET HANDLE WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME. A 100% IS NOT THE GOAL, BECAUSE THAT JUST MEANS YOU'VE GOT TOO MANY PEOPLE SITTING THERE NOT TAKING CALLS. BUT IF IT'S TOO LOW, THAT MEANS THERE'S TOO MANY CUSTOMERS WAITING. YOU'VE GOT TO FIND A SWEET SPOT WHERE YOU'RE GETTING MAXIMUM UTILIZATION AND THE BEST CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE. IS IT BETTER TO HAVE THE FLEET AVAILABILITY EXTEND THE LIFESPAN OF YOUR VEHICLE SO THAT THEY TOLERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE UNSCHEDULED MAINTENANCE, A LITTLE BIT LESS AVAILABILITY, BUT GET A COUPLE OF EXTRA YEARS PER VEHICLE, SO YOU'RE NOT SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY? >> WELL, TO A POINT. THERE'S A POINT WHEN YOU'RE EXTENDING TOO FAR OUT. YOU HAVE INCREASED COSTS, YOU HAVE INCREASED BREAKDOWNS, THE TYPE OF BREAKDOWN. >> BUT IF WE REPLACE THE VEHICLE EVERY TWO YEARS, WE'LL NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY MAINTENANCE, AND THERE WILL ALWAYS BE 100% AVAILABLE, BUT WE'LL BE SPENDING HALF OUR BUDGET ON CAR. >> YOU SPENDING WAY MORE MONEY THAN WHAT YOU NEED TO. >> IS 74, 26 VERSUS 64, ARE WE DOING ALMOST TOO GOOD OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT THIS IS A GOOD GOAL THAT WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR? >> SIGNIFICANT. >> I THINK IT'S A GOOD GOAL THAT YOU STRIVE FOR. I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT SCH THE REPAIRS THAT'S HAPPENING IN YOUR SCHEDULING TO DO IT. YOU'RE IDENTIFYING WE'RE GOING TO NEED TIRES. YOU'RE NOT THE VEHICLES IN FOR THE PM. WE TAKE CARE OF IT NOW VERSUS PUTTING THE TIRES ON IT WHEN IT'S FLAT ON THE ROAD WITH THE TIRES COMING OFF THE VEHICLE. REGARDLESS OF HOW LONG YOU KEEP THE VEHICLE IN SERVICE, WHAT YOU SEE, WHAT YOU IDENTIFY FOR THE REPAIR BEFORE IT BECOMES REACTIVE, IS WHAT YOU WANT TO HAVE AS YOUR SCHEDULE. >> AS WE GO FORWARD, I KNOW WE'LL GET INTO REPLACEMENT TIMELINES AND ALL THAT. MY GOAL IS I HOPE THAT AS WE START TO EVALUATE OUR SPENDING AND WE GET SQUEEZED AND SQUEEZED BY THE LEGISLATURE THAT WE START TO SEE HOW MAYBE WE CAN GET THAT EXTRA YEAR OR TWO OUT OF THESE VEHICLES AND NOT REPLACE THEM QUITE SO MUCH. BUT ANYWAY, I'M JUMPING AHEAD. >> WHEN WE GET THERE, WE ARE EXTENDING YEAR TO PAST EVEN WHAT WE GOT FOR OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. WHAT HAPPENS AND WE CAN GET THERE, BUT WHAT CAN HAPPEN IS IF YOU TRY TO EXTEND TOO MUCH TOO FAR, THEN YOU'RE OCCURRING MORE LENGTHY REPAIRS, MORE EXPENSIVE REPAIRS, AND THE VEHICLES DOWN LONGER FOR THAT REPAIR. THE OTHER THING YOU NEED TO KEEP IN MIND, THE MANUFACTURERS GENERALLY ONLY SUPPORT A VEHICLE FOR 8-10 YEARS. THAT TIME FRAME IS GOING LOWER AND LOWER AS THE NEW MODELS COME OUT QUICKER AND SOONER. USED TO THE BODY STYLE OF VEHICLE, STAY THE SAME FOR 10 YEARS. I LOOKED THE SAME FOR YEAR NOW, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT IS CHANGING FOR EVERY YEAR THEY MANUFACTURE VEHICLE. THERE'S NEW TECHNOLOGY IN THE VEHICLES, WHETHER IT BE THE SAFETY FEATURES WITH THE AUTOMATIC BRAKING, OR YOUR RADAR IN THE CAR WHERE THE ADAPTIVE CRUISE CONTROL, THAT THING. THE CLEANNESS OF THE VEHICLE, HOW CLEAN IT OPERATES, HOW MUCH FUEL EFFICIENCY YOU GET, THAT THING. THERE IS A SWEET SPOT, AND THAT'S WHAT OUR NUMBERS ARE BASED ON. LIKE I SAY, OUR NUMBERS ARE THE TRIGGER TO GET US TO LOOK AT. WHEN WE START LOOKING AT, WE LOOK AT WHAT PRAYERS IT'S HAD, WHAT MAINTENANCE IT'S HAD, WHAT ISSUES IT'S THAT, MAYBE IT'S GOT A LIMITED THING. MAYBE IT HAS A REPETITIVE FAILURE THAT'S TAKING IT OUT OF SERVICE, OR MAYBE IT'S A LOW USAGE VEHICLE. MAYBE WE CAN EXTEND IT OUT ANOTHER COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT WE DO A LOT OF THAT. BUT ANYWAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THAT? FLEET SERVICES CUSTOMER SATISFACTION, 85%. STRATEGIC SERVICE PEOPLE TELL ME THIS COMES FROM OUR CUSTOMER SURVEY THAT WE GIVE OUR USER DEPARTMENTS. I WOULD SAY THERE'S ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE? HERE'S GETTING INTO THE STUFF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. THESE ARE THE VEHICLE STATUSES THAT OUR VEHICLES ARE IN. [02:20:01] THESE STATUSES, THE VEHICLES CHANGE STATUSES AS THEIR LIFE IN THE FLEET GOES ON. WHEN WE BUY A NEW VEHICLE, IF IT'S A-VERF VEHICLE, IT COMES UNDER THE FLEET AS AN A STATUS. STANDS FOR A-VERF FUNDED, ACTIVE VEHICLES. THIS IS YOUR FLEET THAT'S NOT LOOKING AT BEING REPLACED, IT'S WHEN IT'S BEEN REPLACED. IT'S NOT ONE WAITING FOR REPLACEMENT TO COME IN. IT'S YOUR ACTIVE FLEET VERF FUNDED, WHICH IS YOUR VEHICLE EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND THAT PAYS FOR THE FLEET. WHEN THIS DATA WAS COLLECTED, THERE WERE 336 VEHICLES IN A STAT A. STAT B, THERE ARE ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN REPLACED BUT HAVE BEEN RETAINED FROM LIMITED USE. WE HAD SEVEN OF THOSE, WE'LL GET A LITTLE CLOSER PICTURE OF THESE HERE IN JUST A MINUTE. YOUR STAT E ASSETS, THESE WERE ACQUIRED OUTSIDE THE NORMAL BUDGET PROCESS. THESE AREN'T VERF VEHICLES. THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT WERE EITHER DONATED, VEHICLES THAT MAY HAVE BEEN SEIZED IN A LAWFUL ACTIVITY OR A VEHICLE THAT WAS PURCHASED WITH CS DOLLARS OR ANYTHING OTHER THAN THE VERF IS HOW THESE VEHICLES WERE ACQUIRED. SEVENTY-FIVE OF THOSE. THE OTHER THING ON THESE ES, BEFORE I GOT HERE, A LOT OF TRADERS, WE HAVE TRADERS THAT SOME OF THEM ARE EXPENSIVE, SOME OF THEM INEXPENSIVE. THE DECISION WAS MADE FOR A LOT OF THESE TRADERS TO MAKE THEM E-STATUS BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T REALLY A CAPITAL PURCHASE AT THE TIME WHAT TRAILER WAS. THAT'S WHY THERE'S A LOT OF TRADERS, YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE COMING UP. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE OR NOT? I DON'T WANT TO FRED FENTONE IN DEATH UP HERE. YOU KNOW WHAT FRED FENTONE IS, [INAUDIBLE], GET A TONGUE TIED. ANYWAY, YOUR ACTIVE F, YOUR STATUS F, THESE ARE ASSETS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR REPLACEMENT AND ARE IN PROCESS OF BEING REPLACED. EITHER THE ORDER IS ALREADY IN AND WE'RE WAITING FOR THE VEHICLE BE DELIVERED OR GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF ORDERING A VEHICLE TO COME IN AND REPLACE SOME OF OUR ASSETS. WE'RE GETTING INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THEM AND THE NEXT SLIDES AHEAD TOO. YOUR ACTIVE T. T STANDS ARE TEMPORARY. IN OTHER WORDS, THERE ARE A SHORT TERM TEMPORARY SOLUTION FOR A VEHICLE THAT EITHER FAILED, AND IT WAS ABLE TO TAKE A VEHICLE THAT COME OUT OF SERVICE TO PUT BACK IN PLACE OF THAT UNTIL THE NEW VEHICLE CAN BE REPLACED. WE GOT SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT. ADAM, I THINK YOU HAD SOME QUESTIONS YOU ASKED YOU GOT THAT QUESTION TO ANSWER. WHAT THOSE WERE. >> I SENT SOME QUESTIONS OVER. I DIDN'T GET ANY RESPONSES, SO WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT IT AS WE LOOK FORWARD. >> B AND T ARE OF THE SAME THING. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE B AND A T, THE B MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE AN END IN SIGHT FORM, WHERE THE T DOES. THE T IS WE'RE WAITING ON SOMETHING TO HAPPEN THAT'S GOING TO CYCLE THAT VEHICLE OUT. LIKE I SAY, THESE VEHICLES WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY FLOW THROUGH THESE STATUSES DEPENDING ON WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE FLEET. THEY COME IN IN AS A, WHEN THEY GET TIME TO BE REPLACED, THEY'LL ACTUALLY GO TO A G, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED AS REPLACEMENTS THAT WE'RE PENDING APPROVAL FOR. ONCE WE RECEIVE YOUR APPROVAL TO REPLACE THEM, THEN THEY GO TO F. THAT'S WHAT THESE 53 ARE. YOU'VE LOOKED AT THOSE, YOU'VE APPROVED THOSE, AND WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ORDERING OR WHAT HAVE YOU. >> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, BILLY. >> YES. >> I HOPE HE CAN HELP ME OUT HERE. ONCE IN A WHILE, I RUN INTO A RESIDENT WHO WANTS TO KNOW, WHAT'S UP WITH ALL THOSE VEHICLES IN THAT PARKING LOT OUT THERE? WHY ARE THERE SO MANY? I'D LIKE YOU TO HELP ME GIVE THEM THE BEST ANSWER POSSIBLE. ARE SOME OF THESE IN THESE CATEGORIES? >> THERE ARE SOME OF THE VEHICLES IN THESE CATEGORIES, YES. WE HAVE 477 PIECES OF EQUIPMENT RIGHT NOW. THIS IS THE COUNT THAT'S IN EACH STATUS. LIKE SAY IT CHANGES ALL THE TIME. BUT THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION, THESE VEHICLES WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM SITTING OUT IN THAT PARKING LOT, THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME. MOST OF THEM ARE WHITE, THEY ALL GOT THE SAME DECAL, THIS, THAT OR THE OTHER. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WAS ABLE TO DO BECAUSE I'VE HEARD THAT QUESTION POSED BEFORE. THE GPS SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE, THEY HAVE A REPORT. CREATED A GEOFENCE AROUND THE TOWN HALL PARKING LOT. WE CREATED A GEOFENCE. WHAT WE CAN DO, WE CAN RUN A REPORT, WHICH I HAVE, I'VE RUN THIS REPORT. THE TIME SHOWS THE TIME ON SITE FOR OUR ASSETS. THE TIME OUR VEHICLE SPEND IN THIS GEOFENCE, WHICH IS AROUND TOWN HALL. THERE ARE A FEW THAT NEEDS SOME EXPLANATION, I WOULD SAY, SIT HERE FOR 10 DAYS, 15 DAYS, WHATEVER. BUT THE MAJORITY OF THAT FLEET IS CYCLING IN AND OUT. IT'S COMING AND GOING OUT OF THE PARKING LOT. IT'S NOT LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE FLEET IS JUST PARKED IN A PARKING LOT SITTING. THEY'RE MOVING AROUND. I KNOW THE CITIZEN AND WHOEVER, THEY SEE THAT WHITE VEHICLE. THEY SEE ALL WHITE BECAUSE A LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENTS FUNCTION OUT OF TOWN HALL. THEY COME AND GO OUT OF TOWN HALL. THIS IS THEIR HOME BASE. YOU GO DOWN TO SPHINX. THERE'S A LOT OF WHITE VEHICLES OUT THERE. [02:25:01] IT LOOKS LIKE THAT RESIDE THERE ALL THE TIME, TOO. ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. WE HAVE A TIME ON SITE REPORT FOR TOWN HALL, CAN ANSWER THAT. >> THANK YOU. >> I THINK BILLY POINTED ON WHAT WE CAN DO TO ANALYZE WHETHER EQUIPMENT IS BEING PROPERLY UTILIZED. BUT THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT IS JUST TIME AND PLACE. WHEN ARE YOU LOOKING? IF YOU LOOK AT A CERTAIN TIME, LET'S JUST SAY TYPICAL PERSON COMES HOME AROUND FIVE O'CLOCK. IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PARKING LOT AROUND 4:30, GUESS WHAT, MOST OF OUR FIELD FOLKS ARE IN FOR THE DAY. IF YOU LEAVE AT 7:30, YOU MIGHT CATCH A LOT OF OUR FIELD FOLKS TO GO OUT DURING THE DAY. THERE'S CERTAIN PARTS OF THE DAY WHERE IS GOING TO BE GONE. IT JUST DEPENDS. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT, BUT BILLY TOUCHED ON JUST HOW WE ANALYZE THAT IF DEPARTMENT A IS COMING IN AND SAY, HEY, I NEED AN ADDITIONAL VEHICLE, AND WE GO AND RUN THIS REPORT AND SAY, WELL, THE VEHICLE THAT YOU HAVE ISN'T BEING UTILIZED, OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GIVE THEM ANOTHER VEHICLE IF THAT'S NOT BEING UTILIZED. WE'RE USING THAT DATA, BUT I WOULD JUST ALSO ASK WHEN ARE YOU LOOKING? IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT TYPE YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT PARKING LOT, IT'S GOING TO BE FULL. THE OTHER THING WE DON'T DO IS THAT WE DO NOT UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, AN EMPLOYEE CAN TAKE A VEHICLE HOME, BUT WE DO NOT LET OUR VEHICLES TAKE THEIR VEHICLES HOME. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS LIKE THAT. SOME OF IT IRS REPORTING, IF YOU HAVE A VEHICLE, YOU HAVE TO DECLARE IT ON YOUR TAXES. ANOTHER THING IS WEAR AND TEAR. I DON'T WANT OUR TRUCK AT THE HOME DEPOT ON SATURDAY GOING TO PICK UP LUMBER, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, THINGS I DEALT WITH IN SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT I'VE BEEN IN. THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL COMPONENT TO THAT QUESTION. IT'S ABOUT TIME WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING IN THAT PARKING LOT. YOU MAY JUST SEE A LOT OF VEHICLES THERE. >> I FEEL MUCH MORE PREPARED NOW. THANK YOU. >> HERE'S A CLOSE LOOK AT THOSE 336 ACTIVE A ASSETS. THIS EQUIPMENT OFF ROAD, HEAVY TRUCK, LIGHT CAR TRUCK. THIS IS ME SUMMARIZING THE TYPE OF VEHICLES INTO BASICALLY FOUR GROUPS. BECAUSE OTHERWISE, WE WOULD HAVE MORE PAGE HERE, THE BASE IS SMALL WE COULDN'T SEE IT. BUT TO YOUR EQUIPMENT AND OFF ROAD, THIS COULD BE ANYTHING FROM A MOWER TO A BACKHOE TO AN EXCAVATOR, TO A MINI TRACK LOADER. THIS IS ALL EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE USED. LIKE SAY, MOTOR GRASS, TO DIG UP DIRT, OR WHATEVER. OUR HEAVY TRUCK, THAT'S LIKE A ONE TON TRUCK AND ABOVE. LIGHT CAR AND TRUCK IS LIKE A THREE QUARTER TON AND BELOW, THE MEDIUM TRUCK IS IN BETWEEN THE LIGHT TRUCK AND THE HEAVY TRUCK, AND THEN ARE TRAILERS. THIS IS YOUR A STATUS VEHICLES. WE HAVE THE A ASSET AND THIS IS THE AVERAGE AGE. YOU GOT TO REALIZE SUM OF ASSETS HAVE DIFFERENT LENGTHS OF SERVICE BEFORE WE LOOK AT THEM TO SEE IF THEY NEED TO BE REPLACED OR NOT. SOME OF THESE ARE COMBINED. MAYBE ONE OF THESE IS A THREE-YEAR SERVICE, MAYBE ONE A SEVEN YEAR, EIGHT, WHATEVER. BUT THIS IS THE AVERAGE ASSET AGE FOR ACTIVE OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT. THIS IS THE AVERAGE EXPECTED ASSET LIFE. THE ACTUAL ASSET COUNT 98 OF THEM, SIX YEARS FOR THE AVERAGE ASSET AGE AND EXPECTED LIFE IS NINE. OUR FLEET IS YOUNGER THAN THE AVERAGE EXPECTED ASSET LIFE. WE'RE NOT EXCEEDING THE LIFE IN THIS EXAMPLE, WE'RE UNDER IT. WHICH LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EXCEEDING THE ESTIMATED LIFE OF THE VEHICLE. YOU WANT TO BE IN THAT SWEET SPOT, RIGHT UNDER. THESE ARE AVERAGES. >> WHO SETS THE EXPECTED LIFE, IS THAT US, OR IS THAT SOME OUTSIDE ENTITY THAT MAKES THAT. >> A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH. YOU CAN LOOK AT WHAT THE REST OF THE WORLD IS DOING, LOOK AT LIFE CYCLE COST ANALYSIS, FIND A SWEET SPOT FOR VEHICLE OPERATIONS, AND WE FIND THE TRIGGER. THE YEARS OF SERVICE, THE AGE IS GOING TO TRIGGER US TO LOOK AT IT AND EVALUATE AND SEE WHERE IT'S AT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALK A LOT ABOUT IS ATTRACTING AND RETAINING THE BEST POSSIBLE STAFF MEMBERS. I REMEMBER WORKING WITH MY CLIENTS, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO THEM WAS THE CONDITION OF THEIR VEHICLES AS A JOB SATISFACTION THING TOO. MY CUSTOMERS DIDN'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE IN VEHICLES THAT WERE PAST THEIR USEFUL LIFE BECAUSE THAT SIGNIFICANTLY AFFECTED THEIR JOB SATISFACTION. I WANT US TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT AS WELL. >> I'D RATHER PAY PEOPLE THAN PUT THEM IN NEW VEHICLES, AND I THINK WE'D GET MORE APPLICANTS WITH HIGHER WAGES THAN. >> IF YOU PUT THEM IN A PIECE OF TERRIBLE CONDITION, FILL IN THE BLANK CAR, THAT'S GOING TO BE PART OF THEIR JOB CONDITION AND THEIR PRIDE IN THEIR WORKMANSHIP TOO. >> TERRIBLE CONDITION. >> WELL, I'M SAYING. >> HOPEFULLY, BILLY WOULD NEVER PUT US IN TERRIBLE CONDITION. >> BUT I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO PUSH IT UNTIL IT'S ABOUT TO BREAK DOWN, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A PIECE OF JUNK. [02:30:02] >> WELL, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE THEN. LET'S TALK ABOUT THESE JUNKERS ON HERE BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE NEXT SLIDE HAS THE ONES THAT I WANT TO DRILL DOWN INTO, BILLY. GET TO THAT. THESE ONES WERE REPLACED, BUT THEY'RE STILL IN SERVICE. HOW DO WE WIND UP REPLACING SOMETHING AND THEN HAVING IT STILL IN? WHY DID WE REPLACE IT IF IT'S STILL. >> THE ASSETS THAT ARE THESE ARE BS, THEY WERE REPLACED. THEY USED THE USEFUL LIFE. THEY WERE PULLED OUT OF SERVICE. LET'S SAY WE GOT A POLICE UNIT, A POLICE TOLL. LET'S SAY IT'S A CIVILIAN TOLL BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT ONE OF THESE WAS. IT'S A CIVILIAN TOLL THAT WAS IN A POLICE DEPARTMENT. IT MADE ITS USEFUL LIFE, IT'S EIGHT YEARS OF SERVICE, 100,000 MILES, WE PULLED IT OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT OUT BEFORE WE HAVE A MAJOR FAILURE. IT, THEY GOT AN EXPLORER. MAYBE IT'S GOT 150,000 MILES ON IT, 180,000 MILES ON IT, AND THIS IS A 15-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE. >> IT'S HAVING PROBLEMS. WE CAN PULL THAT VEHICLE OUT AND RECYCLE THIS ONE TO THIS LOWER-USE SITUATION BECAUSE IT'S NOT HAVING THE SAME LEVEL OF USE IN IT AS IT WOULD IN PD. MAYBE IT TOOK PD, AND I'M NOT PICKING ON PD, BUT THEY GO ALL OVER THE PLACE. THEY UTILIZE THEIR VEHICLES QUITE A BIT. BUT MAYBE THEY PUT 100,000 MILES ON A VEHICLE IN TWO YEARS. MAYBE IT IS GOING TO TAKE EIGHT YEARS TO PUT 100,000 MILES ON THE VEHICLE. THERE'S SOME RECYCLING THAT GOES ON AROUND HERE. LET'S SAY THAT EXPLORER HAS A TRANSMISSION FAILURE. DO WE WANT TO SPEND 10 GRAND OR PUT A TRANSMISSION IN THIS 18-YEAR-OLD VEHICLE, OR DO WE WANT TO RECYCLE IT WITH THIS ONE HERE THAT RIGHT NOW HAS NO PROBLEM, HAS SOME USEFUL LIFE IN IT, IT CAN SURVIVE IN THIS LOW USE APPLICATION, SO WE PUT IT IN THIS LOW USE APPLICATION KNOWING THAT THIS VEHICLE FAILS, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO FIX IT EITHER. WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE IT. >> THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. IF YOU TAKE THIS HEAVY-USE VEHICLE AND PUT IT INTO A LIGHT-USE SITUATION, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE EXPLORER WITH THE TRANSMISSION IS NO LONGER GOING TO BE REPLACED? WE JUST GET RID OF IT, AND THEN NOW THIS FORMER POLICE CAR THAT'S NOW USED BY THE IT TEAM, THEN IT BASICALLY TAKES A GROUP A CAR AND MAKES IT NO LONGER REQUIRED FOR REPLACEMENT? >> IF THAT VEHICLE CAN REPLACE THAT ONE AND THE ONE WE'RE PULLING OUT IS IN WORSE SHAPE, YES, IT'S GOING TO TAKE ITS PLACE, AND THAT EXPLORER IS GOING TO BE SOLD OFF. >> THIS CHART, DOES ANYTHING CAPTURE THAT IN THIS? DOES THAT THEN TAKE THE REPLACEMENT THAT WAS THE POLICE CAR AND MAKE IT INTO A TYPE A VEHICLE AT THAT POINT, WHERE IT'S GOING TO THEN RECYCLED? >> IS GOING TO BE A TYPE A. > NEVER. BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY PASSED ITS LIFESPAN. >> IT'S A B. I RETAIN VEHICLE. IT'S A RECYCLED THING. >> THAT'S GOOD. >> GOING MORE INTO THIS. ARE THERE ANY THIRD-PARTY TOOLS THAT HELP IDENTIFY YOU GO A FORD F-150 OR A FREIGHT LINE, OR TRUCK? STATISTICALLY, THEY TAKE ALL THE DATA FROM, LET'S SAY, MOUND, LEWISVILLE COSERVE, AND FEED IT INTO THE TOOL TO PROVIDE SOME METRICS FOR EVERYBODY TO TRACK TOWARDS. >> THERE'S COMPANIES OUT THERE THAT DO IT FOR PRIVATE COMPANIES INDUSTRY, OR MAYBE THEY ONLY HAVE A THREE, FOUR FOUR-YEAR LIFE OF A VEHICLE BEFORE GET RID OF IT. BUT FOR US, THE SOFTWARE THAT WE USE, IT BUILDS A POINT SYSTEM BASED ON THE MAINTENANCE DOLLARS IT GOES INTO THE VEHICLE, BASED ON THE METER READINGS ON THE VEHICLE, BASED ON YEARS OF SERVICES ON A VEHICLE. AND THEN THERE'S AN OPTIONAL CONDITION FACTOR SCORE THAT WE CAN PUT IN THERE. BUT THE SOFTWARE CALCULATES ALL THAT OUT. AND IT'S ANOTHER TOOL THAT WE USE THAT IDENTIFIES ITS TRIGGERS, IT IDENTIFIES VEHICLES TO LOOK AT, MAKE A DECISION. >> YES. FOR REPLACEMENT. OKAY. CORRECT. >> AND THOSE ARE BASED ON THE INDUSTRY STANDARDS. AND IT'S NOT JUST BILL OR JOHN OR PAUL OR WHATEVER, SITTING AROUND PICKING THE NOSE AND MAKING A DECISION. >> I'M ALWAYS QUESTIONING IF INDUSTRY STANDARD IS ALWAYS THE BEST WAY OR IF THERE IS MORE STATISTICAL APPROACHES THAT WE COULD TAKE, GATHERING MORE DATA. >> A LOT OF THE STANDARDS THAT WE USE ARE FROM ALL OF THE OTHER FLEETS. NETWORK WITH OTHER FLEETS, AND A LOT OF THOSE COME FROM STUDIES WHERE THEY'VE HIRED CONSULTANTS TO COME IN AND REVIEW. >> YES. SO WE'RE USING THAT SAME DATA. OKAY. >> AND IF I COULD, I JUST WANT TO EMPHASIZE SOMETHING THAT BILLY JUST TOUCHED ON FOR FOLKS THAT ARE CURIOUS ABOUT THIS IS THAT WE DON'T JUST OPERATE OFF A SCHEDULE ARBITRARILY. IF SOMETHING'S UP TO SIX YEARS, WE DON'T SAY, WELL, TIME TO REPLACE THAT VEHICLE, WE USE THE DATA IN FASTER TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION. THAT'S WHEN WE MAKE DECISION, WE CAN HANG ON FOR ANOTHER YEAR OR TWO, OR SOMETIMES THERE MIGHT BE CIRCUMSTANCES IF WE LOOK AT THE DATA, AND SAYS, HEY, WE NEED TO GET RID OF IT BEFORE SIX YEARS, IT'S AN INFORMED DECISION. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY HAVE THE MISCONCEPTION THAT SOMEHOW SOMETHING'S ON THE SCHEDULE AND WE JUST OPERATE OFF A CALENDAR. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. IT'S BACKED BY DATA IN OUR FASTER SYSTEM. >> PERFECT. [02:35:05] >> LIKE I SAY, THE RETAINED AND THE TEMPORARY VEHICLES. THEY ARE A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION FOR A VEHICLE SITUATION. AND THESE VEHICLES HERE, THE REASON THEIR AGE IS SO HIGH, THEY'VE ALREADY, PER SE, DONE THEIR DUTY. THEY'VE ALREADY LIVED THEIR LIFE. ANYTHING WE GET OUT OF ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS A BENEFIT. IS SOMETHING EXTRA. IT'S SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT WAS CURRENTLY THERE. >> IT MIGHT USE IT TWICE A WEEK AND THEN PARK IT FOR THE REST OF THE TIME. >> WE HAVE ANOTHER SITUATION, THE PARK'S BUCKET TRUCK. YOU GUYS APPROVED THE REPLACEMENT OF IT NOT TOO VERY LONG AGO. WELL, THAT VEHICLE EXPERIENCED A $10,000 FUEL SYSTEM FAILURE. THE DIESEL ENGINES FOR TODAY THEY'RE HIGH-PRESSURE FUEL SYSTEM, BRIGHTENING WHEN THEY FAIL, METAL GOES ALL THROUGH THE FUEL SYSTEM, AND IT'S EXPENSIVE TO FIX THEM. ANYWAY, RATHER THAN SPEND $10,000 ON THIS VEHICLE TO FIX TO GO OUT OF SERVICE, WE HAD ONE THAT WAS TURNED IN FROM TP&W. TRAFFIC, OLD VERBIAGE, BUT TRAFFIC HAD ONE THAT THEY HAD RECEIVED THE NEW ONE. THIS ONE WAS TURNED IN FOR AUCTION, RATHER THAN AUCTION IT, WE WAS ABLE TO GIVE THE PARKS TO USE UNTIL THEIR REPLACEMENT COMES IN. TEMPORARY SOLUTION. BUT THAT'S WHY THESE AVERAGE ASSET AGES ARE HIGH ON THESE UNITS, BECAUSE THESE UNITS, THESE B UNITS, THEY'VE ALREADY DONE THEIR DUTY. THEY'VE ALREADY LIVED THEIR LIFE. ANYTHING WE GET THEM ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT IS A BENEFIT TO US TO KEEP FROM SPENDING MONEY ON REPAIRING A VEHICLE THAT'S NOT WORTH REPAIRING. BECAUSE THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS IS OUR VERVE FUND, WHEN WE AUCTION THESE EAGLES OFF, THE RESIDUAL VALUE THAT WE GET OUT OF THESE EAGLES FOR THE AUCTION GOES BACK INTO THE VERVE. HELPS KEEP IT FUNDED. IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN AROUND A FLEET THAT DOESN'T HAVE A REPLACEMENT PLAN, IT'S NOT A PRETTY SIGHT. SURE. YEAH. YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT THE APPEARANCE OF THE DRIVER SATISFACTION. THE OTHER THING TO CONSIDER, THE CITIZENS FOR THE TOWN OF FIRE MOUNT, WHEN THEY SEE A VEHICLE RUNNING AROUND THE STREETS, IF NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS WHAT YOU PROPOSE, BUT IF IT GETS OUT OF HAND, WHICH IT CAN GET OUT OF HAND QUICKLY. IF THE VEHICLES IN BAD SHAPE, IT PAINTS PEELING OFF OF IT, FENDERS ARE ALL DENTED OFF OF IT, THAT'S THE TAX DOLLARS THEY SEE RUNNING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS. >> BILLY, THAT'S VERY TRUE, BUT THE OTHER HALF OF THAT IS BRAND NEW VEHICLES SITTING IN A PARKING LOT. TAXPAYERS DON'T LIKE TO SEE THAT. THESE INDUSTRY STANDARDS ARE NOT NECESSARILY TAXPAYER-ORIENTED TO BENEFIT TAXPAYERS, THEY MIGHT BE ORIENTED TO BENEFIT AN INDUSTRY THAT PRODUCES VEHICLES AND WANTS TO SELL THEM. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING SQUEEZING EVERYTHING OUT OF IT WE CAN. I THINK THERE'S VALUE, AND THE TAXPAYER IS LOOKING AT THE GOVERNMENT AND SAYING, THESE GUYS ARE GETTING EVERY MILE OUT OF THAT HUNK OF JUNK, AND THAT'S GREAT BECAUSE MY TAXES ARE GOING DOWN. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD THING. THINK WE SHOULD BE THE IMAGE OF THE TOWN SHOULD BE LUXURY. IT SHOULD BE THAT WE'RE BEING VERY DUE DILIGENT WITH YOUR DOLLARS. THAT'S THE IMAGE I WANT THE TOWN TO PROJECT. >> I DON'T WANT OUR DRIVERS IN A HUNK OF JUNK. THEY LOOK NEW BECAUSE WE TAKE GOOD CARE OF THEM, AND THEY'RE WHITE AND THEY'RE CLEAN AND THEY'RE BROUGHT BACK. THEY'RE NOT ALL NEW VEHICLES. THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER. BUT THEY LOOK GOOD, AND THEY'RE UNIFORM, SO IT DOES LOOK LIKE THEY'RE NEW, BUT THEY'RE WELL TAKEN CARE OF. >> HOW MUCH DO WE SPEND ANNUALLY ON NEW VEHICLES? >> THERE'S NO SET NUMBER. IT DEPENDS ON WHAT OUR EVALUATION TELLS US NEEDS REPLACED. BUT WHEN WE LOOKED AT I THINK FOR, AND IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE REPLACING. I LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION FOR YOUR QUESTION QUESTION YOU HAD LIKE ONE YEAR IS 3 MILLION, IS 6 MILLION IS 6 MILLION. BUT SOME OF THOSE YEARS, THE $6 MILLION YEARS. THEY WERE FIRE TRUCKS, THERE WERE CEMENT TRUCKS. THEY WERE DECISION PACKAGE VEHICLES ALONG WITH EARTH VEHICLES. WE SPEND MONEY ON A VARIETY TYPE OF FLEET VEHICLE. >> HOW MUCH DO WE RECOVER FROM OUR AUCTION ON THE [OVERLAPPING] >> THAT'S DRIVEN BY THE CLIMATE THAT WE'RE IN. WE HAD A [INAUDIBLE]. WE JUST SOLD AN AUCTION. IT WAS BOUGHT LIKE $60,000 FOR [INAUDIBLE]. WE PAID MAYBE 100, 200,034. [OVERLAPPING] MAYBE WE GET TEN TO 15,000 FOR THEM. AND WE SOLD A AMBULANCE, A MEDIC FOR FIRE. WE GOT 60,000 FOR IT. AND WHAT STARTED LOOKING LOOKING THIS. YOU HAVE A DABADU DOING HERE? BUT GOSH, LOOKING AT SOME OF OUR FIRE VEHICLES. WE HAD A BRUSH TRUCK BIG TRUCK, WILDLAND BRUSH TRUCK, FOUR WHEEL DRIVE INTERNATIONAL BIG CHASSIS TRUCK. VENDOR OFFERED US 40 GRAND FOR THAT TRUCK. MAN. WE CAN'T EVEN BUY THE TIRES THING HARDLY FOR THAT. WE STARTED LOOKING AT GOV DEALS, FOR EXAMPLE, WHERE WE COULD SELL THE VEHICLE WITH THE LIGHTING AND THE PACKAGE AND EVERYTHING ALL ON IT, RATHER THAN STRIP IT ALL OUT. WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE WHAT THAT ONE BRINGS. BUT THIS LAST METRIC THAT WE SOLD WAS A GOVDEALS AUCTION PURCHASE, TOO. RE BATES, WE GET REAL GOOD SERVICE OUT OF THEM AS WELL. [02:40:03] >> IS THERE A PERCENTAGE OF THE VERVE FUND THAT IS FUNDED BY THE AUCTION SIDE THAT'S 10 PERCENT [OVERLAPPING] >> I DON'T HAVE THAT NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. BUT, IT'S THE MONEY GOES BACK INTO VERVE. SAME WAY WITH THE INSURANCE, WHEN WE GET A VEHICLE THAT'S TOTALED OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THE DOLLAR FOR THE VEHICLE THAT'S EXCESS OF THE REPAIR, OR WE DON'T REPAIR, THAT GOES BACK INTO VERVE AS WELL. >> I JUST HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, THEN I'LL LET YOU FINISH YOUR PRESENTATION. IS IT BETTER FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE FOR US TO HAVE FEWER TYPES OF VEHICLES SO THAT IT SIMPLIFIES THE MAINTENANCE OR DO YOU PREFER TO HAVE A DIVERSE SET OF VEHICLES SO THAT I DON'T KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SOME ISSUE TAKEN OUT HALF THE FLEETS BECAUSE TODAY ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAD A CHEVY TRAVERSE AND A TOYOTA HIGHLANDER FOR POLICE AND THAT WAS A LITTLE UNUSUAL TO ME, I THOUGHT. THE EXPLANATION I CAN GIVE YOU FOR THOSE POLICE VEHICLES, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF TIMES POLICE ARE DOING A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS, AND WHAT THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO DO. ONE OF THE THINGS I DO IS CRIMINAL INVESTIGATIONS, THAT KIND OF THING WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO BLEND IN WITH THE PUBLIC, BUT I LIKE TO HAVE VEHICLES THAT BLEND IN WITH THE PUBLIC, THAT I WANT TO BE IN A WHITE, STEEL-WHEELED, GENERIC-LOOKING VEHICLE. THAT'S GENERALLY WHY WE'RE BUYING A VEHICLE THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF ODD OR DIFFERENT FROM EVERYTHING, ALL OF THE OTHER FLEET VEHICLES, BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO BE INCOGNITO. THEY'RE TRYING TO BLEND IN. THAT KIND OF THING. MAYBE CHIEF LIE THERE. THOSE TWO THAT ARE ON THE AGENDA TODAY WERE CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION DIVISION VEHICLES. >> SO, NO CONCERNS FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE IN TERMS OF HAVING A ONE-OFF KIND OF UNUSUAL TYPE OF VEHICLE, IS THAT [OVERLAPPING] >> MY TAKE ON IT, YOU GOT TO BE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. IF YOU GOT A TOTALLY HOMOGENEOUS FLEET, OR ALL THE SAME VEHICLE, THE SAME MANUFACTURER, WHAT HAVE YOU, WHEN YOU GET A RECALL, OR YOU GET A PROBLEM, IT DON'T TAKE OUT PART OF YOUR FLEET, IT TAKES OUT YOUR WHOLE FLEET. IF YOU'VE GOT A MIXTURE FLEET, YOU'VE GOT OTHER UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO BE FUNCTIONAL FOR YOU. AND WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAYBE NEGOTIATE THE PURCHASE OF YOUR VEHICLES, IF YOUR FORD REP SHOWS UP HERE, AND YOU'VE GOT NOTHING BUT FORDS ON A LOT, OR NOTHING MAHINDRA TRACTORS ON A LOT, HOW AND TICE IS HE GOING TO BE TO BE NEGOTIABLE WITH YOU? BUT IF YOU'VE GOT A MIXED FLEET, THEY SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I NEED TO EARN THEIR BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY GOT CASE, THEY GOT JOHN DARE, THEY GOT A CATERPILLAR, SO WE NEED TO BE COMPETITIVE. SO THAT'S THE SIDE OF THAT. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERYTHING WAS THE SAME FOR REPAIRS AND THAT KIND OF THING. BUT ULTIMATELY, YOU'RE BETTER OFF WITH A LITTLE BIT OF MIXTURE. >> WITH THE AUCTION, HAVE WE EVER INVESTIGATED OTHER OPTIONS, OR TRADE IN WITH THE PURCHASE OF A NEW VEHICLE, OR EVEN SELLING THEM OURSELVES? >> LIKE I SAID, THAT BRUSH TRUCK. FIRE TRUCK. TYPICALLY, WE WOULD TRADE IN A FIRE APPARATUS ON A FIRE APPARATUS. THAT BRUSH TRUCK MADE US KIND OF RETHINK THAT, AT LEAST MAYBE KIND OF RETHINK IT. THEY OFFER US 50 GRAND FOR A TRUCK, AND THEY TURN AROUND AND SELL IT FOR 800,000. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, THEY DO A LITTLE OF WORK TO IT. I WANT TO EXPLORE THAT AVENUE. I WANT TO SEE WHAT WE CAN GET FOR IT THROUGH AUCTION. >> I GUESS WHAT I'M ADVOCATING IS KEEP ALL OPTIONS OPEN. IF IT MAKES MORE SENSE TO TRADE IT IN BECAUSE THE MARKET ISN'T GREAT FOR AUCTION AND TRADE-IN OR IF THERE'S WAYS FOR MUNICIPALITIES SELL THEM TO THE PUBLIC. >> THAT'S WHY WE WENT WITH GOVDEALS TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD GET ON FOR A POLICE OR COME OUT OF SERVICE BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WE WOULD STRIP THE LIGHTS OUT, WE WOULD STRIP THE LAW ENFORCEMENT ITEMS OUT OF THE VEHICLES, AND THEN SELL THEM AS A PLANE VEHICLE. WELL, IT'S MANPOWER AND ITS LABOR, AND IT'S TIME TO STRIP THAT STUFF OUT VERSUS SELLING IT THROUGH GOVDEALS OR SELLING IT A RESTRICTED AUCTION WHERE WHEN THEY SELL THAT VEHICLE, IT HAS TO GO TO ANOTHER LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY OR AN ENTITY THAT'S AUTHORIZED TO HAVE EMERGENCY-TYPE VEHICLES. BECAUSE WHAT YOU DON'T WANT TO HAVE HAPPEN IS YOU SELL A POLICE VEHICLE WITH LIGHTS AND SIRENS, AND ENDS UP IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE'S DOING NO GOOD WITH IT. THEN WE'RE ALL OVER THE NEWS AND NOT GOOD FOR IT. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, YES, WE LIKE TO EXPLORE THINGS. WE WANT TO GET THE MOST OUT OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE CAN. OUR GOAL IS TO DO WHAT WE DO AS CHEAP AND EFFICIENTLY AS WE CAN. I SAY CHEAP. AS COST-EFFICIENT AS WE CAN. >> EVERYTHING YOU'VE TOLD ME SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS ARE DOING IT. >> OKAY. LIKE I SAID, THIS AVERAGE ASSET IS ON THESE REASONS, SO HIGHEST BECAUSE THESE ARE RECYCLED VEHICLES, BASICALLY. THEY'RE PUT IN A SHORT-TERM SOLUTION BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY SERVED YOUR LIFE. THAT MAKES SENSE? THESE ARE OUR E-VEHICLES, LIKE I TALKED TO YOU A WHILE AGO ABOUT. WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAILERS ON HERE, AND THE REASON WE'VE GOT A LOT OF TRAILERS ON HERE IS BECAUSE THEY WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE VERVE-FUNDED CATEGORY AND PUT INTO. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THESE TRAILERS COMES [02:45:01] TIME TO REPLACE THE DEPARTMENTS GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BUDGET REQUEST, A DECISION PACKAGE ON. SOME OF THESE VEHICLES, THESE LIGHT CAR AND TRUCK. THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT WERE RECENTLY PURCHASED WITH MAYBE SEIZURE FUND DOLLARS. I THINK YOU GUYS JUST APPROVED AGNES INTO THE VERVE FUND BECAUSE THEY'RE RELATIVELY NEW, WE STILL GOT TIME TO CATCH UP ON THE REPLACEMENT DOLLARS TO BUILD THEM UP TO GET INTO PLAN. BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T DO THAT, EIGHT, TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD OR 15, YOU'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO HAVE TO UPFRONT THE MONEY ALL AT ONCE TO REPLACE IT RATHER THAN PUT THE MONEY ASIDE YEAR AT A TIME. MAKE SENSE. QUESTION, THERE READY TO GO? THESE ARE STATUS-F. THESE ARE THE ONES WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER THAT ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING REPLACED, THE VEHICLES ARE ON ORDER FORM ARE IN THE PROCESS OF BEING ORDERED TO REPLACE THEM. IF YOU NOTICE THIS ASSET AGE, THESE EAGLES AREN'T, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF USE AGE. I'M RIGHT. THE AVERAGE AGE FOR THESE HEAVY TRUCKS IS 13, THE AVERAGE EXPECTED AGE IS 13. AND YOU GOT TO REALIZE, TOO, THESE ARE DIFFERENT SIZE TRUCKS. THEY'VE GOT DIFFERENT LIVES ON THEM. EACH VEHICLE HAS A DIFFERENT ESTIMATED LIFE TO GO WITH IT. THESE ARE THE AVERAGES. IN AVERAGES, YOU STEP 1 FT IN A BUCKET OF BOILING WATER AND ONE BUCKET OF ICE WATER, SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE IS WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. BUT THAT'S A PROBLEM OF AVERAGES, ONE EXTREME OR THE OTHER. QUESTIONS HERE. SO YOU CAN SEE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THESE, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE, WE'RE OLDER THAN 6 YEARS OLD WHEN WE'RE LOOKING TO REPLACE IT. WE'RE OLDER THAN 9 YEARS OLD WHEN WE'RE LOOKING REPLACE IT. WE'RE GETTING 13 YEARS OUT OF A VEHICLE THAT'S DESTINED FOR NINE. AVERAGE EXPECTED LIFE IS NINE. I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO TRY TO GET MORE OUT OF VEHICLES, MORE LIFETIME OUT OF THE VEHICLE THAN JUST WHAT'S ON THE SHEET FOR THE TRIGGER. WE'RE USUALLY A YEAR OR TWO BEYOND THAT AT LEAST. >> DID THE FIRE TRUCKS FALL INTO HEAVY TRUCKS? IS THAT WHAT? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> ANY QUESTIONS HERE. NOW, THESE VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THEM ARE THESE ARE F. THESE ARE VEHICLES THAT ARE APPROVED TO BE REPLACED. THEY COULD BE A VERVE VEHICLE, THEY COULD BE A DECISION PACKAGE VEHICLE. THE MAJORITY OF THEM ARE VERVE, BUT THEY'RE ALL MIXED IN HERE. THESE ARE VERVE, DECISION PACKAGES, THAT KIND OF THING. MATTER OF FACT, I WANT TO SAY LAST YEAR, WE HAD WE BOUGHT LIKE THE CEMENT TRUCKS AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE BOUGHT LAST YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE. THE HYDRO EXCAVATION TRUCKS THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THIS CATEGORY TOO, EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE DECISION PACKAGE VEHICLES. AND T IS KIND OF THE SAME AS BS OR TEMPORARY USAGE. >> WE TALKED WITH PD BEFORE THEY GOT AUTHORIZED TO REPLACE SOME OF THE SRO VEHICLES. THEY WERE SHORT ON SRO VEHICLES. WHAT WE WERE DOING WHEN WE PULLED THESE EAGLES OUT OF ACTIVE FRONT LINE PATROL. THEY WERE SEEING A LOT OF HEAVY DAY IN DAY OUT HEAVY USAGE. THEY TOOK THOSE EAGLES AND SAY, HEY, WE CAN RECYCLE FOUR OF THESE VEHICLES EVERY YEAR. WE CAN RECYCLE THEM OUT TO THIS LOWER USAGE SRO DUTY FOR YOU. THAT'S WHAT FOUR OF THESE VEHICLES HERE WERE. THE RECYCLABLE, TAKE THEM OUT OF THE HEAVY USE FRONT LINE, PUT THEM IN A RECYCLABLE LOW USE SRO TYPE OF SITUATION. QUESTIONS HERE. HERE'S JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF QUICK LOOK EXAMPLES OF THE VALUE OF THE FLEET SERVICE BRINGS TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER AMOUNT, TOWN LABOR HOURS, FISCAL YEAR 25, WE HAD 4,784 LABOR HOURS THAT WEEK SPENDING TOWARDS THE FLEET. LABOR COSTS VERSUS OUTSIDE VENDORS, $277,000 ESTIMATED SAVINGS BASED ON WHAT WE FEEL OUR INTERNAL LABOR AMOUNT WILL BE VERSUS OUTSIDE LABOR COST IS. $200 IS NOT AN OUTRAGEOUS NUMBER FOR AN OUTSIDE VENDOR LABOR COSTS PER HOUR. IF THEY COME TO YOUR FACILITY, IT'S EVEN MORE. YOUR PARTS ACQUISITION COSTS VERSUS OUTSIDE VENDOR MARKUPS. WE DON'T CHARGE ANY MARKUPS ON OUR PARTS TO THE DEPARTMENT, WHATEVER WE BUY THEM FOR, WHICH WE NORMALLY BUY THEM AT A CHEAPER RATE, A GOVERNMENT RATE, A TOWN RATE, AND WE PASS THAT RIGHT ONTO THE CUSTOMER WITH NO MARKUPS. IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR OUTSIDE VENDORS TO MARK PARTS UP, 25, 30%. THERE ARE SOME SAVINGS THERE. HERE'S THE FUEL USAGE I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT. FOR LAST YEAR, 280,000 GALLONS OF FUEL THAT'S UNLEADED AND DIESEL COMBINED. BUT I CAN TELL YOU WE USE MORE UNLEADED THAN WE DO DIESEL. >> IS THAT THROUGH DO WE HAVE [02:50:03] OUR OWN FUELING STATION OR IS THAT THROUGH A SPECIFIC VENDOR? >> THAT'S OUR OWN FUELING STATION. GOT YOU. WE UTILIZE FUEL CARDS IN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS. BUT THE BULK OF OUR FUEL IS THROUGH OUR OWN FUEL SITES. >> IS THAT IN LAKESIDE, PUBLIC WORKS AREA OR IS IT? >> IT'S IN SPHINX AT THE MAIN OPERATION CENTER O&M OVER THERE, IS THE MAIN CENTER? FIRE STATION ONE OVER HERE. WE'VE GOT 2000 GALLON TANKS. ONE SET AND GALLON TANKS. DIESEL UNLEADED, AND PD TAKES ADVANTAGE OF THOSE TANKS AS WELL. THEN THE TWO OTHER FIRE STATINS OR OTHER FIRE STATION AND O&M WEST ARE SMALLER TANKS, DIESEL TANKS LAD. WE GOT THREE OUTSIDE TANKS PLUS OUR MAIN SITE OFF THE SPANKS THAT WE MAINTAIN FUEL LINE. ANYWAY, OF THOSE 280,000 GALLONS, OUR FLEET SERVICE CENTER COSTS FOR FUEL IS 247 A GALLON VERSUS 299 A GALLON ON THE OUTSIDE. THAT'S $145,000 WE SAVE THERE. THE BENEFIT OF OUR IN HOUSE REPAIRS, LIKE I SAID, WE'D LIKE TO DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN IN HOUSE. WE'RE HERE AND AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT SERVICE THAT REPAIR WITHOUT BEING SCHEDULED. IF YOU'VE TAKEN YOUR CAR OR DEALERSHIP LATELY, IT'S HARD TO GET IN A DEALERSHIP IN A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME. IF YOU HEARD THE CEO FROM FORD TALKING A WHILE AGO, 05,000 TECHNICIAN SHORTAGE THAT HE'S FACING. HE'S EMPTY BAYS BECAUSE HE CAN'T FIND TECHNICIANS GO IN THOSE BAYS. IT'S HARD TO GET EXPEDIENT SERVICE OUT IN PRIVATE OR DEALERSHIP STUFF. DO THAT MAKE SENSE? ANY QUESTIONS HERE? HERE'S WHO WE ARE. HERE'S OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. YOU'VE GOT YOUR FLEET SERVICES MANAGER, WHICH IS MORE. WE GOT A FLEET BUSINESS SUPERVISOR AND A FLEET SERVICES CLERK. THEN ON THE SHOP SIDE, WE GOT A SHOP FLOOR SUPERVISOR, TWO EVT TECHS, TWO SENIOR TECHS, AND ENTRY LEVEL TECHNICIAN. YOU GUYS THAT AUTHORIZE THESE ADDITIONAL TECHNICIANS FOR US THAT GIVE US A STEPPING LADDER FOR THESE GUYS TO COME IN, PROMOTE UP. QUESTIONS HERE. THIS IS OUR PERSONNEL PLAN. I WENT BACK A LITTLE FURTHER THAN MOST DID TO SHOW THE POSITIONS YOU AUTHORIZED FOR ME. WE APPRECIATE YOUR AUTHORIZING THOSE POSITIONS, TO HELP MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT, BETTER WHAT WE DO. THIS IS A PROJECTION BASICALLY AHEAD OF WHAT WE MIGHT SEE IN 27, 28. WHAT DETERMINES HOW MANY TECHS WE NEED IS HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE IN THE FLEET. THE FLEET HAS GROWN TO ALMOST 300 UNITS IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS, SIX YEARS. >> YOU FEEL LIKE THE STAFFING THAT YOU HAVE CURRENTLY IS ADEQUATE TO DO TURNOVER TO GET THE FLEET BACK IN SERVICE? CORRECT. >> WE DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITH 95% FLEET AVAILABILITY, THAT THING. BUT ADDING THE PARTS COORDINATOR. IT'S ON THE NEXT SLIDE THAT I KNOW YOU'VE GUYS HAVE ALREADY SEEN A PRESENTATION ON. THAT HELPS TOO. WE TRY TO MAKE OUR TECHNICIANS AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN. WE BASICALLY GET 1,580 WRENCH HOURS OUT OF A TECH. WE HAD 4,000 AND SOME HOURS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON. FIVE TECH, WE'RE SHORT A LITTLE BIT. THE REASON WE'RE SHORT IS RIGHT HERE, THIS PARTS TRANSACTION, 02,784 OF OUR TECHNICIAN WRENCH HOURS WAS BASICALLY UTILIZED ON A PARTS TRANSACTION, AT A COST OF ABOUT $85,000. AT AVERAGE COST OF $30.84 AN HOUR. WHEN YOU TAKE ALL OF OUR SALARY, AND HOW MUCH TIME THEY SPENT ON A PARTS TRANSACTIONS, WE COULD DO THAT BETTER. I HAVE A ACTUAL PARTS POSITION TO DO THAT. BECAUSE WAY IT IS NOW, THE PARKED TRUCK COMES IN. THE TECH HAS TO GO, MAYBE GET THAT PART FROM THE GUY, TECH GOES IN, PULLS THE PART OFF THE SHELF. THE TECH PUTS THE PART ON THE WORK ORDER. THE TECH GETS ON THE PHONE CALL AND ORDER TO PARK. HE SPENDS A LOT OF EXTRA TIME THAT SHOULD BE WRENCHED TURNING TIME ORDERING PARTS. BECAUSE HE'S A SKILLED POSITION. WE WANT TO UTILIZE THE SKILL AND TECHNOLOGY THAT HE HAS WORKING ON VEHICLES, NOT ORDERING PARTS. THEY CAN ORDER A PARKED PERSON CHEAPER THAN PAYING A SKILLED TECH TO BE PARKED PERSON. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL JUST EMPHASIZE IS THAT WITH YOUR APPROVAL OF THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENT ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, WE'RE GETTING A JUMP ON THIS PARTICULAR POSITION, SO WE WILL BE FILLING THAT POSITION SHORTLY. YOU CAN JUST GO AND SEE THE IMPACT OF THAT POSITION AS FAR AS WRENCH TURNING IS WHAT WE WANT OUR TEXT DOING. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN THAT BUDGET ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO GET A JUMP AND HAVE MORE WRENCH TURNING AS OPPOSED TO PARTS INVENTORY. THANK YOU. [02:55:04] >> I IMAGINE IN ADDITION TO IT BEING CHEAPER TO HAVE A PART TECH DO THAT INSTEAD OF A TECHNICIAN, SO BE MORE EFFICIENT. IF THAT'S THEIR DAY JOB, ALL THEY DO ALL DAY EVERY DAY, THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT MORE EFFICIENT AND EFFECTIVE AT DOING IT AND PROBABLY DO IT IN FEWER HOURS. THAT'S A WIN WIN. >> EFFICIENCY IS WHAT WE NEED RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OUR STAFFING IS DETERMINED BY VEU REPORT, A VEHICLE EQUIPMENTCY REPORT. THAT'S WHERE BASICALLY YOU FIND YOU TOTAL UP ALL THE LABOR DEMAND YOU NEED TO MAINTAIN YOUR FLEET AND DIVIDE THAT BY HOW MANY TECHNICIANS YOU HAVE BASED ON 1,500 HOURS OF PRODUCTIVITY, YOU GET OUT OF THAT TECH, WHICH IS ABOUT 70% OF 2,080 HOURS A YEAR. THAT TELLS YOU HOW MANY TECHS YOU NEED. BUT IF THEY'RE USING THAT TIME TO ORDER PARTS, IF THEY'RE USING THAT TIME TO DO OTHER CUSTOMER RELATED THINGS OR WHAT HAVE YOU, THEN THAT 1,580 DROPS DOWN. WE GOT TO TRY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS WE CAN WITH THE TEXT THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE EIGHT BAYS IN OUR SHOP RIGHT NOW. EIGHT BAYS. TECHNICALLY, WE PROBABLY USE ANOTHER EIGHT SOMEWHERE ELSE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, WHAT HAVE YOU. I WOULD SAY WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY AS THE FLEET GROWS. AS WE GET MORE CITIZENS MOVING INTO THE TOWN, MORE BUSINESS INTO THE TOWN, WE NEED MORE FIRE APPARATUS TO SUPPORT THE TOWN'S SAFETY FEATURE FOR THAT. THE MORE POLICE OFFICERS WE PUT OUT, THE MORE VEHICLES THEY HAVE. THAT ALL EQUATES TO MORE VEHICLES, MORE VEHICLES EQUATES TO MORE LABOR DEMAND, MORE LABOR DEMAND EQUATES TO MORE TECHNICIANS AND WE'VE GOT TO HAVE A PLACE TO WORK ON. OR WE UTILIZE OUTSIDE VENDORS AT A HIGHER COST AND LENGTHIER REPAIR TIMES. >> GOING INTO THAT, WHAT ARE THE TYPICAL THINGS THAT WE'RE OUTSOURCING RIGHT NOW? MAN ARE THE MAJOR REPAIRS, LIKE AN ENGINE REPLACEMENT? >> WELL, WE TRANSMISSION REPAIRS. WE DON'T DO TRANSMISSION REPAIR IN HOUSE. WE'VE TAKEN IN A LOT MORE OF THE FIRE REPAIRS THAN WE USED TO DO. A LOT OF THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE SKILL LEVEL OF THE SUPERVISOR THAT WE GOT ON BOARD. LESS HIM PARTICIPATING IN THOSE REPAIRS, AND WE HIRED AN EXTRA EVT TECH WITH YOU GUYS APPROVAL A FEW YEARS AGO. >> BUT WHAT TYPE OF REPAIRS TRANSMISSIONS. >> TRANSMISSIONS, ENGINES, OFF ROAD EQUIPMENT TRANSMISSIONS, I HIGH LIABILITY REPAIRS, RIGHT. SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO TAKE UP A LOT OF BASE SPAS, TAKE UP A LOT OF TIME. BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO TIE A TECH UP FOR TWO WEEKS ON, A COMPREHENSIVE REPAIR. WHEN YOU GOT PMS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, YOU NEED TO BE TAKEN CARE OF. >> UNDERSTAND. >> IT'S A BATTLE YOU MAKE DECISION BASED ON THE PROS AND CONS OF IT. HOW COST FOR WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO IN HOUSE VERSUS OUTSIDE? >> HOW DO WE MANAGE OUTSIDE REPAIRS? IS THAT SOMETHING THE PARTS TECHNICIAN WOULD PROBABLY TAKE OVER IN THE LONG TERM, OR IS IT? >> THE SHOP SUPERVISOR WOULD BE DEALING WITH MAKING THE DECISION ON THE OUTSIDE REPAIR. MAYBE TALKING WITH THE VENDOR, AND THEN THE PAPERWORK THAT PROCESS OF THE OUTSIDE REPAIR IS SOMETHING THE PARKS TECHNICIAN WOULD BE DEALING WITH. BUT THE TECHNICAL ASPECT OF IT, EVALUATION OF IT WOULD BE ON THE SHOP SUPERVISOR. QUESTIONS HERE? BE GOOD. THAT'S ALL I HAD. HOPE I WASN'T TOO BAD. >> WELL, BILLY, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK THAT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS REALLY IMPORTANT, AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEPARTMENTS, AND IT'S A REALLY GOOD INVESTMENT. THE MONEY WE'RE INVESTING AND THE REQUESTS YOU HAVE IT'S LOWERING OUR COST, MAKING THESE VEHICLES LAST LONGER, IT'S CUT OUR MAINTENANCE COSTS. IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT AND I'M DEFINITELY 100% SUPPORT OF THESE INVESTMENTS FROM MAKING YOUR DEPARTMENT DOING A GREAT JOB. BUT I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER. I APPRECIATE EVERYTHING. >> COUNCIL HASN'T BEEN OUT THERE ON SPANKS TO SEE THE BAYS AND THE WORK THEY DO, IT'S PRETTY COOL TO GO OUT THERE. YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT. >> I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO GO OUT SOMETIME. I HAVE GREAT SHOW. I'LL SEND YOU A NOTE. >> JUST A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS FROM MY PERSPECTIVE. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I WAS GOING TO ASK, ADAM ASK ABOUT THE FLEET COMMONALITY. I THINK THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO HAVE THE DIVERSE FLEET FOR THE REASONS THAT YOU MENTIONED. A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT GIVE ME COMFORT. YOU LOOK AT THE EXPECTED ASSET AGE FOR EACH OF THESE VEHICLES. YOU MENTIONED THAT SOME OF IT'S INDUSTRY DATA, BUT YOU CUSTOMIZE IT BASED ON OUR NEEDS AND OUR USAGE. I THINK THAT ANSWERS SOME QUESTIONS, JUST NOT JUST THE OEMS OF THESE OF THIS EQUIPMENT SAYING, YOU NEED TO BUY A NEW MACHINE IN FIVE YEARS. I THINK WE'RE USING REAL WORLD DATA, OUR ACTUAL USAGE AND MAKING THE RIGHT DECISIONS TO WHAT MAKES SENSE FOR US. THE OTHER THING THAT I LIKED WAS REPURPOSING THE EXAMPLE OF THE POLICE VEHICLE TO IT. >> THE IT. I USED TO DO THAT. WE WOULD BUY WORKSTATIONS FOR OUR ENGINEERS FOR THE COMPUTERS. [03:00:06] THEN AFTER X NUMBER OF YEARS, WHEN TECHNOLOGY CHANGE AND IT WASN'T ENOUGH HORSEPOWER FOR THE ENGINEERING SOFTWARE, WOULD PASS IT ON TO AN ADMIN OR SOME OR NON TECHNICAL STAFF. THEY DIDN'T NEED THAT HEAVY HORSEPOWER IN THE COMPUTER. I LIKE THE FACT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT TYPE OF THING IN THIS FLEET AS WELL. THEN THE OTHER THING THAT REALLY GIVES ME COMFORT IS THE FACT THAT IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT OFF. YOU USE THE EXAMPLE OF A VEHICLES PARKED FOR 10 OR 15 DAYS. WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO COLLECT THAT DATA, AND THEN IF WE SEE SOMETHING, WE HAVE ABILITY TO ANALYZE THAT DATA. LOOK INTO IT, DIG A LITTLE DEEPER AND SAY, WHAT'S THE REASON? IS IT A VALID REASON? PROBABLY, IF NOT, THEN WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT IT? IS IT A ONE TIME THING? IS IT A SYSTEMATIC PROCESS TYPE OF CHALLENGE? BUT HEARING EVERYTHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT REALLY GIVES ME COMFORT THAT FROM YOU FROM JAMES AND THE ENTIRE STAFF. WE DO HAVE OUR FINGER ON THE PULSE. WE'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE EVERY BIT OF VALUE OUT OF THESE VEHICLES, GETTING THE RIGHT BALANCE WITHOUT HAVING AN OLD JALOPY VERSUS NOT HAVING BRAND NEW, BUT WE LOOK AT THE ASSET AGE FOR THE TYPE AS, NONE OF THEM ARE NEW. I THINK THE NEWEST ONE I SAW WAS AVERAGE AGE WAS MAYBE FOUR YEARS. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DRIVING ALL BRAND NEW VEHICLES, AND THEY DO LOOK GREAT BECAUSE OF THE GREAT WORK YOU DO. I'M GET A LITTLE LONG WINDED, BUT THANK YOU, GOOD JOB AND GIVES ME A LOT OF CONFIDENCE. >> I'LL ADD THIS ON THAT LIGHT VEHICLE ASSET AGE BEING A FOUR YEARS, OR PD FLEET IS SET AT THREE YEARS TO TRIGGER TO LOOK AT ONE OF OUR BIGGEST FLEETS IS PD. THAT DRIVES THAT NUMBER DOWN. REALLY THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE LIKE SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS FOR ESTIMATED LIFE. BUT BECAUSE PD IS ON A THREE, FOUR YEAR PLAN, THEY DRIVE IT UP. I THINK ABOUT PD, A LOT OF THEIR DUTIES, THE JOBS THAT THEY DO REQUIRES A LOT OF IDLING. WHETHER YOU REALIZE IT OR NOT, ONE HOUR OF LING IS EQUIVALENT TO 33 HOURS OF MILEAGE WEAR ON THE ENGINE. WE'VE GOT 6-8 HYBRIS THAT WE ORDERED IN THAT ARE COMING IN ANY DAY NOW TO HELP ALLEVIATE SOME OF THAT. BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, THEY HAVE ANY ESPECIALLY IN SUMMERTIME, THE ELECTRONIC EQUIPMENT THEY HAVE IN A CAR, THEY HAVE TO KEEP THAT COOL SO IT DON'T FAIL. RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY THAT'S ID IN THE VEHICLE TO KEEP IT COOL. BUT WE WORKED WITH PD A YEAR AGO, WHEN WE IDENTIFIED SOME AS IDLE TIME THROUGH OUR GPS USAGE AND THEY'VE STEPPED THAT DOWN A WHOLE LOT. THEY'VE MADE BIG IMPROVEMENTS IN IDLE TIME. ANYWAY, I HOPE IT'S INFORMATIVE. HOPE YOU DO IT. >> VERY INFORMATIVE. >> GOOD STUFF. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANKS, BILLY. I THINK AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE CONTINUE THESE CONVERSATIONS, IF YOU EVER NEED US TO COME BACK AND DRILL A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO SOME OF THESE CONCEPTS, CERTAINLY ASK AND WE CAN COME BACK AND GO A LITTLE BIT MORE DEPTH ON SOME OF THOSE COMPONENTS. AGAIN, I'VE MENTIONED JUST IN PASSING IN SOME OTHER CONVERSATION IS THAT WE DO A GOOD JOB, BILLS TEAM DO A GOOD JOB WITH OUR FLEET. I'VE BEEN IN PLACES DURING THE COURSE OF MY CAREER WHERE GETTING THE FLEET GETTING AWAY FROM YOU HAS DIRECT SERVICE DELIVERY IMPACTS. IT COULD FORCE CHIEF HENLEY TO SHUT DOWN A STATION BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES OR IT AFFECT CHIEF KHAN'S BEATS IF WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH VEHICLES AVAILABLE FOR PATROL. AS ONE AS THINGS A REAL TIME THAT IN ADDITION TO WORKING WITH BILLY AND ULTIMATELY THROUGH MEG AND HER TEAM AND STRATEGIC SERVICES. ALSO, TALKING WITH THE CHIEFS IN PARTICULAR, THEY KEEP ME APPRIZED OF WHAT THEY SEE FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT THEY NEED. THERE'S CONSTANT DIALOGUE GOING. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE I COMPLETELY GET IT AND WE WELCOME THE QUESTIONS. WE WELCOME THE CHALLENGES. BUT HOPEFULLY WHAT WE WANTED TO DEMONSTRATE TODAY IS JUST GIVE YOU A BASELINE OF WHAT WE HAVE OUR PULSE ON, YOU CAN BETTER DIRECT US ON THINGS YOU WANT US TO DRILL DOWN DEEPER SO AS WE MOVE FORWARD GOING THROUGH THE FY 27 BUDGET PROCESS. IF THERE'S ANY OF THESE COMPONENTS. YOU WANT US TO REVISIT, PLEASE LET US KNOW. WE'RE MORE THAN WILLING TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT AND SEE WHAT MAKES SENSE. IF YOU SEE ANYTHING OUT THERE, YOU READ ANYTHING IN AN ARTICLE, PLEASE SHOOT AT OUR DIRECTION. WE'LL GIVE YOU OUR THOUGHTS ON IT AND OUR ANALYSIS OF HOW IT CAN BE BENEFICIAL OR FIRE MOUNT DOESN'T NEED IT. WE CERTAINLY WELCOME ANY THOUGHTS, IDEAS, CONCERNS WHEN IT COMES TO OUR FLEET. >> I APPRECIATE THAT, JAMES. I WANT TO THANK MATT AND BILLY FOR THE UPDATE ON ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND FLEET SERVICES. NOW THE TIME IS 9:06, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNE. GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUNT. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.