[00:00:03] >> GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND. [A. CALL TO ORDER] THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 PM. I'M CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE, WELCOME. CHAPLAIN MIKE LYLES FOR OUR INVOCATION, AND PLEASE STAND FOR THAT INVOCATION AND REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. >> SHALL WE PRAY. FATHER IN HEAVEN, WE COME BEFORE YOUR THRONE OF GRACE THIS EVENING, THANKING YOU FOR THE BOUNTIES OF LIFE THAT YOU HAVE SHOWERED UP ON US HERE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR A TOWN COUNCIL, WE THANK YOU FOR A TOWN STAFF THAT WORK SO DILIGENTLY TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY. THE GREAT COMMUNITY IS. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICEMEN THAT TAKE CARE OF US, AND TAKE CARE OF THE STREETS AND KEEP US SAFE SO WE CAN SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THEM. KEEP THEM SAFE WHILE THEY'RE OUT ON CALLS AND GIVE THEM WISDOM TO KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO EACH ONE. FATHER BLESS THIS MEETING AND BLESS EVERYONE HERE THAT IT'S A PART OF IT. MAY ALL THAT SAID AND HERE BE TO YOUR HONOR AND GLORY. FATHER, WE LOVE YOU, BLESSED AS WE SERVE YOU, SWEET GOD THAT YOU ARE. WE ASK IT IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. >> >> THANK YOU, CHAPLIN. I'LL COME DOWN THERE. [D. PRESENTATION(S)] WE HAVE A FEW PRESENTATIONS ON THE AGENDA. WE HAVE A COUPLE PROCLAMATIONS TODAY. THE FIRST ONE IS FOR THE SALVATION ARMY OF NORTH TEXAS, AND RECEIVING THIS PROCLAMATION IS MAJOR TIFFANY JACKSON AND MAJOR BECKY GILLIAM. IS THAT RIGHT? SORRY. IS MAJOR GILLIAMS HERE TO RECEIVE THIS? THANK YOU FOR COMING. WHEREAS THE OPERATIONS OF THE SALVATION ARMY ARE SUPERVISED BY TRAINED COMMISSIONED OFFICERS THEY PROCLAIM THE GOSPEL AND SERVE AS ADMINISTRATORS, TEACHERS, SOCIAL WORKERS, COUNSELORS, YOUTH LEADERS, AND MUSICIANS. THESE MEN AND WOMEN HAVE DEDICATED THEIR LIVES COMPLETELY TO SERVICE. NEARLY 200 PEOPLE OF ALL AGES DEDICATE TO VOLUNTEERING THEIR TIME, TALENTS, AND RESOURCES TO MEET HUMAN NEEDS WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION THROUGH THE SALVATION ARMY OF DENTON COUNTY, WHERE VOLUNTEERS ARE CRITICAL PARTNERS IN HELPING FULFILL THEIR PROMISE TO AMERICA OF, "DOING THE MOST GOOD." IN LOUISVILLE, THE SALVATION ARMY PROVIDES IMPORTANT SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY, INCLUDING MEALS, AND SHELTER FOR MEN, WOMEN, AND CHILDREN, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, A FOOD PANTRY, COMMUNITY MEAL, AND FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO HELP FAMILIES PAY RENT AND UTILITY BILLS. THESE SERVICES ARE PROVIDED FREE OF CHARGE TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SERVED. THE ONLY WAY THIS IS POSSIBLE IS THROUGH THE FINANCIAL SUPPORT OF LOCAL CITIZENS WHO GIVE THROUGH VARIOUS CHANNELS, NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS THE SALVATION ARMY'S ANNUAL RED KETTLE CAMPAIGN, WHICH WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING IN DECEMBER FOR THE TOWN. WHEREAS TO REACH THEIR RED KETTLE GOAL OF $60,000 FOR THIS YEAR'S HOLIDAY CAMPAIGN, THE SALVATION ARMY OF LOUISVILLE IS SEEKING VOLUNTEERS TO FILL THE MORE THAN 1,000 TWO-HOUR SHIFTS AS BELL RINGERS. JUST TWO HOURS OF YOUR TIME CAN PROVIDE A NIGHT OF SHELTER FOR 10 INDIVIDUALS, 50 HOT MEALS OR GIFTS FOR A FORGOTTEN ANGEL THIS SEASON. NOW, THEREFORE, I CHERYL MORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF OUR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL DO HEREBY PROCLAIM THE 2025 HOLIDAY SEASON IN FLOWER MOUND AS THE SEASON TO GIVE WITH JOY TO THE SALVATION ARMY. [00:05:02] I URGE YOU TO ALL REGISTER FOR THIS CAMPAIGN AT REGISTERTORING.COM. PICK A DAY, PICK A TIME SLOT, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND STAFF, MYSELF, SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE SIGNING UP IN DECEMBER TO DO THAT FOR YOU ALL. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THE NEXT PROCLAMATION WE HAVE IS FOR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY, AND ACCEPTING THIS IS OUR VERY OWN RAY WATSON AND MELODY. MAIXINE IS ALSO COMING UP, SUCKER AND LORI WALKER FROM OUR CHAMBER. COME ON. COME AGAIN. KELLY IS ALSO ON THE CHAMBER BOARD. HERE'S THE PROCLAMATION. YOU'RE ACCEPTING YOU ALL ARE. WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS SUPPORTS AND CELEBRATES OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO OUR ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 36.2 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE US, WHICH REPRESENTS 9.9% OF FIRMS WITH PAID EMPLOYEES. SMALL BUSINESSES ARE A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER EMPLOYING 45.9% OF THE US WORKFORCE. FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE US, APPROXIMATELY $0.68 STAYS IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITY. SHOPPING LOCAL KEEPS AND CIRCULATES THE CONSUMER DOLLARS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND ADVOCACY GROUPS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HAVE HAVE ENDORSED THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING A SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY. NOW, THEREFORE, I CHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 29TH, 2025, A SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY. [APPLAUSE] RAY WATSON IS GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START A PRESENTATION FOR US. SHE'S GOING TO START IT. ACTUALLY, LORI WALKER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOU COME BACK UP HERE AND DO THE CHAMBER. ONE OF YOU. THERE YOU GO. IT'S ALL YOURS? >> PERFECT. WELL, GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL, MAYOR, AND ALL OF OUR WONDERFUL GUESTS THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS LORI WALKER, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER. I AM SO EXCITED TO BE HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE STATE OF THE CHAMBER. THAT'D BE GREAT. TONIGHT, WE WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THE ESSENTIAL IMPACT OF LOCAL BUSINESSES ON OUR COMMUNITY AND SHARE HOW THE CHAMBERS INITIATIVES DEVELOPED THROUGH STRONG COLLABORATION WITH THE TOWN ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. OUR GOAL IS TO DEMONSTRATE THE VALUE THAT THESE EFFORTS BRING TO OUR ECONOMY, TO OUR RESIDENTS, AND TO THE FUTURE GROWTH OF FLOWER MOUND. OUR MISSION AT THE FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER IS DEDICATED TO EMPOWERING LOCAL BUSINESSES BY PROVIDING A PLATFORM FOR NETWORKING, ADVOCACY, RESOURCE SHARING. WE STRIVE TO ENHANCE THE ECONOMIC VITALITY AND QUALITY OF LIFE IN FLOWER MOUND AND THE SURROUNDING AREAS, FOSTERING AN ENVIRONMENT WHERE BUSINESSES CAN THRIVE AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY'S GROWTH. IT IS NOT BRAGGING, IF IT IS TRUE, BUT YOUR FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER IS A FIVE STAR ACCREDITED CHAMBER WITH THE US CHAMBER OF COMERS. THIS HAS BEEN ACHIEVED WITH A LOT OF BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS AND ONLY LESS THAN 3% OF THE 7,000 CHAMBERS ACROSS THE NATION CAN BRAG AND SAY THAT THEY ARE A FIVE STAR ACCREDITED CHAMBER. [00:10:02] ONE THING THAT'S REALLY EXCITING TO THIS YEAR, THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD FOR THE US CHAMBER IS TEXAS ON ROSS JUNIOR, AND THAT IS REALLY EXCITING FOR THOSE OF US IN NORTH TEXAS THAT HE IS LEADING THE EFFORTS ON BEHALF OF BUSINESSES IN WASHINGTON. LOCAL BUSINESSES PLAY A VITAL ROLE IN THE ECONOMY OF TEXAS. IT IS THE FLOWER MOUND'S ECONOMY, DRIVING JOB CREATION, EXPANDING THE TOWN'S TAX BASE, AND CATALYZING LASTING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. BY REINVESTING THEIR REVENUE THROUGH LOCAL PURCHASES AND PARTNERSHIPS, THESE BUSINESSES CREATE POSITIVE RIPPLE EFFECTS. EACH DOLLAR THAT IS SPENT LOCALLY CIRCULATES AND MULTIPLIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, SUPPORTING SCHOOLS, PUBLIC SAFETY, AND VITAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE A MOU WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND THAT HAS INITIATIVES THAT WE PARTNER WITH THE TOWN ON TO ENHANCE OUR COMMUNITY. THE FIRST ONE IS OUR GOVERNMENT AT 12 LUNCHES. WE JUST HAD ONE LAST WEEK, THE FINAL ONE OF THE YEAR WITH MAYOR CHERYL MORE. WE START THE YEAR OFF WITH THE MAYOR, AND THEN WE GO THROUGH THE COUNCIL. I THINK YOU ALL WOULD AGREE YOU'VE ALL DONE THAT NOW. WE KEEP SAYING THAT ONE OF THESE DAYS SOMEONE'S GOING TO SLIP AND TELL SOMETHING SECRETIVE THAT NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT. BUT SO FAR, THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. YOU ALL ARE VERY GOOD. BUT IT'S A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. WHAT'S REALLY GREAT TOO IS HIGHLIGHTING, YOU CAN SEE WE'VE HAD SEVERAL OUR GREAT RESTAURANTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN TO BE A PART OF. OUR SHOP LOCAL, AND THIS IS SO EXCITING. SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY, YES, IS THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING. WE KICKED THAT SHOP LOCAL OFF THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER, AND THIS INITIATIVE REFLECTS A YEAR ROUND COMMITMENT TO BOLSTERING LOCAL BUSINESSES AND SUSTAINING FLOWER MOUND'S VIBRANT ECONOMY. NOT JUST DURING THE DEDICATED WEEK, BUT THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. IT OFFERS LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS INCREASED VISIBILITY, NEW CONNECTIONS, WHILE RESIDENTS DISCOVER NEW DINING, SHOPPING, AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS. THE SHARED GOAL OF THE TOWN AND THE CHAMBER IS TO BUILD LASTING RELATIONSHIPS, STRENGTHEN LOCAL PRIDE, AND ENSURE THAT THE FUTURE PROSPERITY OF FLOWER MOUND THROUGH ACTIVE COMMUNITY WIDE PARTICIPATION. WE KICKED IT OFF AND WE ACTUALLY STARTED IT WITH DIY SATURDAY. THAT WAS NOVEMBER 1ST, AND SO WE ENCOURAGED PEOPLE TO DO THOSE HOME IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS. SELFIE SUNDAY, WE WANTED PEOPLE TO TAKE PICTURES IN OUR PARKS AND PLACES OF WORSHIP. MONDAY FUNDAY. THAT WAS YOUR GYMS AND PICKLEBALL AND GOLF AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS. TASTY THURSDAY, OUR RESTAURANTS WERE INUNDATED WITH POST. WE JUST LOVED ALL OF THE POSTS AND ALL THE SHARES AND THE THINGS THAT WERE HAPPENING. ONE DOWN WEDNESDAY IS WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO RELAX, DO YOUR SPA, ENJOY TIME WITH FRIENDS, THURSDAY THURSDAY. GO GET THAT COCKTAIL OR MILKSHAKE OR COFFEE. THEN WE ENDED THE SHOP LOCAL WEEK WITH FASHION FRIDAY. THIS WILL GO ON. THIS IS A YEAR LONG PROGRAM, BUT WE JUST HIGHLIGHTED IT DURING THE FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER. IT WILL GO INTO THE SHOPPING LOCAL ON THAT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY JUST IN TIME FOR THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY. ANOTHER ONE OF OUR PROGRAMS, THAT'S PART OF THE MO INITIATIVE, ARE OUR QUARTERLY BUSINESS WORKSHOPS. THEY ARE THE CORNERSTONE OF OUR CHAMBERS ONGOING COMMITMENT TO EMPOWERING FLOWER MOUND'S LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH FOCUS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT. EACH WORKSHOP WAS TAILORED TO ADDRESS THE REAL INTEREST AND NEEDS OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY, COVERING CRITICAL TOPICS LIKE ECONOMIC OUTLOOKS, LOCAL AND STATE DEVELOPMENT UPDATES. TECHNOLOGY TRENDS AND VITAL PUBLIC SERVICES. THESE EVENTS PROVIDE BUSINESS OWNERS AND PROFESSIONALS WITH THE ACCESS TO VALUABLE RESOURCES, EXPERT SPEAKERS AND NETWORKING OPPORTUNITIES DESIGNED TO HELP THEM THRIVE IN A DYNAMIC MARKETPLACE. BY FACILITATING INDUSTRY LEADING LEARNING EXPERIENCES, THE CHAMBER ENSURES PARTICIPANTS STAY INFORMED, [00:15:03] CONNECTED, AND EQUIPPED FOR LASTING SUCCESS IN FLOWER MOUND. AS YOU CAN SEE, OUR FIRST ONE WAS KICKED OFF. WE HAD AN ECONOMIST THAT DID THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK FOR 2025. TO GET TO KNOW YOUR TOWN WAS VERY POPULAR OF ALL OF THE RESOURCES. I WILL TELL YOU THE AI IN THE WORKPLACE. IT WAS PACKED IN ALMOST STANDING ROOM ONLY. WE HAD JUST AN ESTEEMED PANEL THAT DO AI. WE HAD SOMEONE FROM SOUTH WEST AIRLINES, CBRE, AND THEN WE HAD A PROFESSOR FROM U&T, AND IT WAS MIND BLOWING. THEN WE ENDED THE PROGRAM THIS YEAR WITH OUR LOCAL COUNTY AND STATE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, AND IT WAS JUST A WONDERFUL PROGRAM. THANK YOU TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND FOR YOUR CONTINUED VISION IN THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR PARTNERING WITH OUR CHAMBER. IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO ALL OF OUR BUSINESSES TO KNOW THAT YOU SUPPORT US, AND WE JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS EVENING. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]. >> THANK YOU. >> THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS IS AN ITEM TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. IF YOU HAVE FILLED OUT A PUBLIC COMMENT CARD, AND YOU'RE HERE FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, YOU WILL NEED TO BE HERE AND WAIT FOR THAT TIME. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS EXCEPT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK NOW DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO ONE WANTS TO, SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON [NOISE] TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. [F. ANNOUNCEMENTS] DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS? GO FOR IT. >> THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE EVERYONE TO A BIRTHDAY PARTY. THE FLOWER MOUND PUBLIC LIBRARY IS TURNING 40 THIS WEEK COMING UP. IT'S ON TUESDAY NOVEMBER 25TH AT 2:00 PM IN THE LIBRARY, AND HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. >> ANYONE ELSE? >> I HAVE ONE. I SPENT THE WEEKEND IN INDIANAPOLIS AT THE BANDS OF AMERICA GRAND NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS. FOR ANYONE WHO DOESN'T KNOW THIS, THERE WERE 108 BANDS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, AND THEY EACH GET TO PERFORM ONE TIME, THEN THEY CUT THEM DOWN TO 36, AND THEN THEY PERFORM AGAIN AND THEN THEY CUT THEM DOWN TO 12, AND THE 12 OR THE 12 BEST BANDS IN THE COUNTRY, AND THEY CROWN A CHAMPION. BOTH OF OUR HIGH SCHOOLS, MARCUS AND FLOWER MOUND WERE THERE. BOTH OF THEM WERE FINALISTS. MARCUS ENDED UP SEVENTH OVERALL, FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL WAS SECOND OVERALL, AND THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE HOME COOKING. THE INDIANA BANDS DID VERY WELL, IT'S IN INDIANAPOLIS. I THINK IF THAT HAD BEEN HOSTED IN TEXAS, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE THAT MARCUS AND FLOWER MOUND MIGHT BE THE BEST TOP TWO OR THREE IN THE COUNTRY. INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCES. WE'RE PRETTY UNIQUE IN THAT OUR DISTRICT HAS THIS INCREDIBLE MARCHING BAND PROGRAM. IT'S NOT JUST FLOWER MOUND AND MARCUS, HEBRON IS RIGHT THERE TOO. AS THESE FRIDAY NIGHT FOOTBALL GAMES ARE GOING ON AND THESE SHOWS GET BETTER AND BETTER, IF YOU CAN MAKE IT TO ONE OF THOSE FRIDAY NIGHT GAMES LATE IN THE YEAR, AND TO SEE THESE INCREDIBLE BANDS THERE. WE'RE VERY BLESSED. MY KIDS, I HAVE TWO SOPHOMORES IN MARCUS, THEY DID AN INCREDIBLE JOB. I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME RECOGNITION AND SHOW SOME APPRECIATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND INCREDIBLE JOB THEY DID, AND THOSE KIDS WORK REALLY HARD, PARENTS WORK HARD TOO. CHAIR OF OUR TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION DRIVES THE SEMI. >> IT DOES. >> A COUPLE OF BAND PARENTS HERE, VETERANS, SO REALLY INCREDIBLE JOBS AT BOTH HIGH SCHOOLS, SO THANK YOU. >> I JUST WANT TO PIGTAIL ONTO THAT. THE 5A MARCHING BAND COMPETITION WAS THE WEEKEND FOR THAT IN ARGYLE HIGH SCHOOL. THERE'S THREE HIGH SCHOOLS IN FLOWER MOUND, ALSO COMPETED AND THEY GOT FOURTH OVERALL. GREAT SET OF BANDS IN FLOWER MOUND, SO CONGRATS TO ALL OF THEM. >> ALSO THAT WEEKEND, THEY ALSO HAD THE BOA REGIONAL IN SAN ANTONIO, AND ARGYLE FOR THAT WAS CLASSIFIED 2A, AND THEY SWEPT, THEY WON FIRST PLACE AND THREE DISTINCTION AWARDS. THIS IS A GREAT AREA IN NORTH TEXAS FOR MARCHING BANDS. >> I HAD ONE ALSO. ON NOVEMBER 29TH IS THE OLD SETTLERS CHRISTMAS AT THE GIBSON-GRANT, [00:20:01] AND THAT WILL BE 10:00-2:00 AT THE GIBSON-GRANT CABIN ON NOVEMBER 29TH. DON'T FORGET NOVEMBER IS ARTS MONTH, SO WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ARTS ACTIVITIES GOING ON. THERE WAS AN ART TOUR AT THE DIFFERENT STUDIOS FOR OUR LOCAL ARTISTS. THEY HOSTED A VISIT TO THEIR HOMES TO THEIR STUDIOS, AND THEN ART HOUSE HAD AN OPEN EXHIBITION, AND JUST LOOK ON OUR EVENTS TO SEE ANY EVENTS COMING UP. THE LIBRARY STILL, I THINK, HAS THEIR ART OUT, AND THEY HAVE SOME ART WALLS THAT THEY'VE ADDED TO THAT CENTER AS WELL. NO MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS? WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT, JAMES? [G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT] >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. WE HAVE TWO PRESENTATIONS AND SOME QUICK HIT UPDATES THAT I'LL PROVIDE TOWARDS THE END. FIRST, I MAY ASK MAXINE TO COME UP, OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST, EXCUSE ME. SHE'S GOING TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON OUR RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SURVEY RESULTS. WE PUT THIS OUT EVERY YEAR, AND THERE'S USUAL SUSPECTS UP THERE. I'M WAITING WITH BATED BREATH TO SEE IF WE HAVE ANY NEW ENTRIES INTO OUR RESULTS, SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MAXINE. >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'LL BE TAKING A LOOK AT THE 2025 RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SURVEY. PRETTY MUCH BE LOOKING AT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS. >> ABOUT THE SURVEY, IT WAS CONDUCTED AUGUST 2025, AND THOSE THAT PARTICIPATED WERE FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS AND THOSE THAT WORK IN FLOWER MOUND. THE PURPOSE OF THIS SURVEY IS TO GUIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PURSUE FUTURE RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OPPORTUNITIES. WHERE RESIDENTS SHOP AND DINE. WE HAVE TWO CATEGORIES, SHOPPING LOCATIONS, DINING LOCATIONS. FLOWER MOUND UNDER SHOPPING LOCATIONS IS AT 82%, DINING LOCATIONS IS AT 78%, HIGHLAND VILLAGE AND SOUTH LAKE ARE NOT TOO FAR BEHIND. WHY RESIDENTS SHOP AND DINE OUTSIDE FLOWER MOUND, LIMITED OPTIONS AT 68%, HIGHER PRICES AT 42%, INCONVENIENT LOCATION AT 28%. WHY RESIDENTS BUY OUTSIDE FLOWER MOUND, CLOTHING AT 72%, MEALS AND ENTERTAINMENT AT 65%, HOME FURNISHINGS AT 48%, ELECTRONICS AT 38%, GROCERIES AT 22%. DINING PREFERENCES, CASUAL OR FAMILY DINING IS AT THE TOP WITH 72%, FAST FOOD AT 48%, FINE DINING AT 38%, AND PUB SPORTS BAR IS THE LEAST AT 28%. TOP REQUESTED RETAILERS. I'LL JUST FOCUS ON THE TOP FIVE. WE HAVE TRADER JOE'S AT THE TOP, H-E-B, COSTCO, CENTRAL MARKET, NORDSTROM OR NORDSTROM RACK. TOP REQUESTED RESTAURANTS, WE HAVE CHEESECAKE FACTORY, PF CHANG'S, CHICK-FIL-A, IN-N-OUT BURGER, PANERA BREAD. WITH THAT FOR THE COMPLETE SURVEY RESULTS, SCAN THE QR CODE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. >> NOTICE THAT THERE WERE A FEW RESTAURANTS ON THE LIST THAT WE ALREADY HAD, AND I'M CURIOUS WERE THEY WANTING ANOTHER LOCATION CLOSER OR WERE THEY NOT AWARE, DO YOU THINK? >> I'M THINKING MOST LIKELY IT PROBABLY JUST DEPENDS ON LOCATION. >> THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A SECOND LOCATION, POSSIBLY? >> POSSIBLY. >> YEAH, I KNOW. >> THANK YOU, MAXINE. >> THANK YOU. >> APPRECIATE IT. >> ONE OF THE THINGS I'LL SAY BEFORE WE CAN MOVE TO OUR NEXT ITEM IS THAT OBVIOUSLY WE'RE HARD AT WORK ON MANY OF THOSE ITEMS, IT'S SOMETHING WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON. WOW, LOOK AT THAT FACE UP THERE. MAYOR, IF YOU COULD JOIN ME ON THE FLOOR, WE HAVE A RECOGNITION FOR A SERVICE AWARD. >> I LIKE THAT SHIRT. [LAUGHTER] >> PROBABLY WOULDN'T HAVE. [INAUDIBLE] >> THERE WE GO. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO [00:25:01] ON A MONTHLY BASIS IS WE RECOGNIZE SERVICE AWARDS FOR OUR EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE HAD SERVICE TIME WITH THE TOWN MORE THAN 15 YEARS AND FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS. TODAY, THAT BRIGHT, YOUNG, ENERGETIC FACE IS OF ONE CAPTAIN RONNIE MCCARROLL WITH OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. RONNIE, WON'T YOU GO AHEAD AND JOIN US UP FRONT, AND WE'LL STEP OUT HERE. HOW ARE YOU DOING MAN? >> GOOD, SIR. >> GOOD TO SEE YOU. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS I'M GOING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIS BACKGROUND AND ALSO A FUN FACT, AND WE'LL DECIDE WHETHER YOUR FACT IS VERY FUN, RONNIE. SO RONNIE MCCARROLL WAS HIRED AS A FIREFIGHTER ON NOVEMBER 16TH OF 1990, AND HE WAS PROMOTED TO FIRE CAPTAIN ON FEBRUARY 3 OF 2010. SO FOR THE FUN FACT THAT WE DO, RONNIE, HIS FAVORITE HOLIDAY IS HALLOWEEN, BUT THE UNIQUE THING ABOUT HALLOWEEN IS THAT I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUT ON A COSTUME AND SCARY THE KIDS AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT APPARENTLY WHAT YOU'RE KNOWN FOR IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS YOUR CHILI, AND SO INSTEAD OF GIVING OUT CANDY DURING HALLOWEEN, HE'S GOING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD GIVING CHILI TO ALL HIS NEIGHBORS. THAT'S A REALLY COOL DEAL. BUT IN ADDITION TO HIS LOVE FOR HALLOWEEN AND OBVIOUSLY COOKING CHILI, RONNIE'S BEEN NAMED OFFICER OF THE YEAR MULTIPLE TIMES FOR OUR DEPARTMENT. IT REFLECTS HIS OUTSTANDING CHARACTER AND PROFESSIONALISM, AND CHIEF HENLEY NOTES THAT RONNIE'S KNOWLEDGE AND HIS ABILITY TO SHARE THAT KNOWLEDGE WITH THE REST OF THE DEPARTMENT, MAKES HIM A TRUSTED PILLAR OF OUR TRAINING TEAM. PLEASE JOIN ME AS WE CELEBRATE RONNIE FOR 35 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. [APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU. >> HEY, CONGRATULATIONS, MAN. I WAS A LITTLE UNEASY BECAUSE WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS FOR THOSE TONES TO GO OFF AND AND EVERYBODY HAVE TO WALK OUT OF THE THING TONIGHT, SO THANK YOU. YOU WIN THE AWARD FOR BIGGEST CHAIRING SECTION BROUGHT SO FAR ON OUR SERVICE AWARD, SO I THINK THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD REFLECTION OF WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT RUNNING THE FACT THAT YOU'VE GOT THESE GUYS OUT HERE SUPPORTING YOU. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> REAL QUICK, MAYOR, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK HITS. WE'LL STAY ON THE THEME OF OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC IS THAT ON OCTOBER 30TH, THE TEXAS FIRE MARSHALS ASSOCIATION AWARDED OUR DEPARTMENT WITH THE AWARD FOR EXCELLENCE IN FIRE PREVENTION. THIS IS THE GOAL LEVEL, THE HIGHEST, AND WE RECEIVED THAT. THAT'S A REFLECTION OF OBVIOUSLY CHIEF HENLEY, BUT OUR ASSISTANT CHIEF JASON BOLEJACK, WHO SERVED AS THE FIRE MARSHAL UNTIL RECENTLY, LARAMIE VEST, WHO'S NOW OUR FIRE MARSHAL, BUT WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO STEPHANIE BILLARREAL WHO'S NOW WITH THE CITY OF KELLER AND THEIR WORK. OBVIOUSLY, THESE GUYS RESPOND WHEN YOU CALL, THEY ADDRESS FIRES, MEDICAL THINGS, BUT WE PUT A CONSIDERABLE EFFORT IN PREVENTION, WHICH GOES A LONG WAY. OBVIOUSLY, IF YOU CAN PREVENT AND EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON FIRE SAFETY, IT MITIGATES THE NEED FOR US TO COME OUT SUBSEQUENTLY, AND SO JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE JOB THAT OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE IN REGARDS TO OUR EXCELLENCE IN FIRE PROTECTION AWARD. THEN ALSO, STOP ME IF YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE. WE HAVE AN AWARD WINNING COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. IF YOU'VE BEEN OUT ON OUR SECOND FLOOR, THAT TROPHY CASE IS JUST FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO WITH THE REST OF OUR AWARDS HERE IN TOWN, BUT WE NEED MULTIPLE TROPHY CASES FOR OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT. RECENTLY, WE RECEIVED 11 STATEWIDE AWARDS, INCLUDING THREE FOR FIRST PLACE FROM THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS AND ADVISORS OR TATOA. THE FULL LIST OF WINNING VIDEOS CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEB PAGE AND OUR MEDIA CHANNELS, BUT YOU ALL KNOW. WE DO AN AMAZING JOB OF MIXING CREATIVITY AND HUMOR, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, WE'RE GETTING MESSAGING OUT. WE'RE INFORMING AND EDUCATING THE COMMUNITY ON OUR VARIOUS SERVICES, INITIATIVES, THE BUDGET, EVERYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. AGAIN, JUST THE FACT THAT WE GET THESE STATE NATIONAL RECOGNITIONS IS JUST AN INDICATOR OF THE GREAT JOB THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM DOES, SO I WANTED TO SHOUT THEM OUT FOR WINNING 11 AWARDS WITH TATOA. MAYOR, THAT IS THE TOWN MANAGERS REPORT. >> THANK YOU. OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS OUTSTANDING, OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES, EXCELLENT. THANK YOU, CHIEF HENLEY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. [H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)] I JUST WANT TO START THIS OUT. I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS I WANTED TO BRING UP. OUR AGENDA DOES STATE, THIS HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION, EMAILS AND SOME COMMENTS ON THE SIDE. ON OUR AGENDA, WE HAVE REQUIRED FOR YEARS FOR PEOPLE TO STATE THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS. SOME PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT STATING THEIR ADDRESS. I DON'T THINK THERE'S REALLY A PROBLEM STATING NAMES, [00:30:02] BUT IF COUNCIL IS OKAY, I'D LIKE TO TAKE THAT OFF OF OUR AGENDA, AND THAT YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND JUST YOUR TOWN THAT YOU'RE FROM OR CITY THAT YOU'RE FROM. IT'S JUST PROCEDURAL, IT'S NOT ANYTHING IN THE ORDINANCE, NOTHING. >> DO WE NEED AN AGENDA ITEM ON THAT OR WE JUST [OVERLAPPING] >> NO, IT'S NOT REALLY AN AGENDA ITEM. I JUST WANT TO THROW THAT OUT IN THIS SECTION JUST SO WE CAN. >> IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, IT'S REALLY JUST RULES OF PROCEDURE RATHER THAN SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE. >> MAYOR, ALL I REALLY WANT TO KNOW FROM PUBLIC COMMENT OR SPEAKERS DURING A PUBLIC HEARING IS WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND OR SOME OTHER, [OVERLAPPING] SO I'M COMPLETELY IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. >> ARE YOU ALL GOOD WITH THAT? >> I AM. CITY IS WHAT I CARE ABOUT. >> HEAD NODS. WE JUST NEED HEAD NODS ON THAT. YOU ALL GOOD WITH THAT? MOST PEOPLE CAN COME UP HERE AND SAY THEIR ADDRESS, AND THEY CAN SAY ANY ADDRESS, ANYWAY, SO WE MAINLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT TOWN THEY'RE REPRESENTING WHEN THEY COME UP HERE AND SPEAK. >> SO WE'LL JUST TAKE THAT OFF OF THE AGENDA. REWORD THAT, TRACY. [NOISE] THEN THE OTHER THING, THE AGENDA ITEM, THIS IS AN ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM THAT I WANTED TO BRING UP. IT'S ON VAPING. I DID GET AN E MAIL AND I HAVE HAD COMMENTS ON VAPING IN THE COMMUNITY, AND DALLAS IMPLEMENTED A BAN ON PROVIDING VAPING IN INDOOR AREAS THAT ALSO HAVE SMOKING. I JUST LIKE TO REVISIT OR VISIT ACTUALLY FOR ONCE THE A PROCEDURES THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT. AGAIN, HEAD NODS. WE CAN JUST EXPLORE THAT ON ONE OF THE AGENDAS. >> I'M SORRY, I WAS LOOKING FOR. >> MOST OF THEM. >> I SEE THREE, THAT'S GOOD ENOUGH. WE'LL FIND AN AGENDA LANDING SPOT FOR THIS, AND WE'LL BRING THAT FORWARD. ALSO, WE'LL JUST PROVIDE SOME HISTORY OF OUR CURRENT ORDINANCES AND HOW IT APPLIES SO WE CAN PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER. >> THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. THANK YOU. DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEMS YOU WANT TO ADD? >> WE'LL MOVE ON THEN TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS. [I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS] THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE SCHEDULED IS THIS WEEK, NOVEMBER 20TH. WE HAVE A WORK SESSION HERE. THEN ON DECEMBER 1ST, WE HAVE A REGULAR MEETING. >> I WILL NOT BE IN ATTENDANCE FOR DECEMBER 1ST. >> BUT WE'LL HAVE A QUORUM STILL WITH THE REST OF THE COUNCIL. SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS. [J. CONSENT ITEM(S)] WE HAVE CONSENT ITEMS J1-11. IF NO ONE WANTS TO PULL ANY ITEMS FROM THIS, CAN YOU PLEASE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE? >> MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >> SECOND. >> A MOTION IN A SECOND. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHISTO? >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> ITEMS J11-11, CONSENT ITEMS, PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS, [K.1. Concrete Panel Replacement Services - Consider approval of the purchase of concrete removal and replacement services from F&F Concrete Construction, LLC, for work associated with the Lakeside Parkway Panel Replacement project, through the Town of Flower Mound contract No. 2023-56-A, Concrete and Drainage Improvement Services, in the amount of $3,095,969.20.] K1, AND THIS IS ON THE CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT SERVICES. THIS IS TO CONSIDER AN APPROVAL OF THE PURCHASE OF CONCRETE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT SERVICES. >> MAYOR COUNCIL, MANY BLASIUS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS. THIS IS FOR THE PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT. PRETTY MUCH, THE LAKESIDE PARKWAY PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT WILL REPLACE MULTIPLE DETERIORATING CONCRETE PANELS ALONG LAKESIDE PARKWAY BETWEEN LONG PRAIRIE ROAD AND TOWN LIMITS. PROJECT INCLUDES REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF APPROXIMATELY 11,215 SQUARE YARDS OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT. IT ALSO INCLUDES ABOUT 11,215 SQUARE YARDS SUBGRADE AND GEO GRID STABILIZATION. HERE'S A PROJECT LIMIT. SO YOU CAN SEE THE HIGHLIGHTED IN BLUE ALL THE WAY FROM LONG PRAIRIE ROAD, ALL THE WAY TO TOWN LIMITS. IT'S APPROXIMATELY 12,500 FEET OR 2.37 MILES. HERE ARE JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE EXISTING DISTRESSES. YOU CAN SEE WE'VE GOT SOME SEVERE PANEL BREAKAGE, SEPARATION, UPLIFTING. SO OUR GOAL IS TO REPLACE ALL OF THESE PANELS WITH THE 12 INCH CONCRETE SECTION, AND OF COURSE WITH 10 INCH BASE SECTION WITH GEO GRID. BASICALLY THE 12 INCH CONCRETE IS, AS YOU KNOW, [00:35:01] LAKESIDE IS A HEAVY TRUCK TRAFFIC AREA, SO THAT 12 INCH IS GOING TO HELP SUPPORT THOSE FAILING PANELS. BASICALLY, THE PROJECT COST IS $3,095,969. THIS PRICING IS BASED OF THE EXISTING TOWNS CONCRETE AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT SERVICES ANNUAL CONTRACT. AS YOU NOTICE, WE'VE BEEN USING THIS CONTRACT FOR A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS IN TOWN, FOR OUR OPERATIONS AND FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS. THIS IS IN OUR CIP STREET RECONSTRUCTION LIST SINCE 2023, FUNDING SOURCE, STREET MAINTENANCE DEDICATED SALES TAX. RIGHT NOW, TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR. THE PROJECT TIME LINE IT'S FIVE MONTHS. THAT'S WEATHER DEPENDENT, OF COURSE, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WINTER WEATHER, WE HAVE SEVERE WEATHER COMING IN WINTER, SO IT MIGHT DELAY A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE GOAL IS TO GET IT DONE IN WITHIN FIVE MONTHS. WE'LL START IN JANUARY 2026 AND ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE JUNE 2026. I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> MANY, THERE'S ALSO A WIDENING OF LAKESIDE PARKWAY PLAN, IS THAT IN ANY WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT? >> THERE IS. OUR CIP ENGINEERING STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT WINDING PROJECT. IT IS ASSOCIATED, BUT THIS IS A SEPARATE PROJECT. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS PANEL REPLACEMENT SINCE 2023. BUT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO NOW WILL BE OFF LIMITS OR OUTSIDE THAT WINDING PROJECT. >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO TEAR THIS UP AND THEN WIDE. >> EXACTLY. YES, SIR. >> THANK YOU. >> I JUST HAD A QUICK QUESTION. THAT SECTION OF ROAD, HOW OLD IS IT? DO YOU KNOW ABOUT? >> DON'T GIVE ME A LINE. PROBABLY 20 YEARS. YES. >> I CAME IN 05 AND IT WAS DONE, SO I WOULD PUT IN A ROUND 02 MAYBE. IT'S JUST THE HEAVY TRAFFIC THAT REALLY MADE IT DEGRADE FASTER BECAUSE SOME OF OUR ROADS HAVE LASTED LONGER THAN 20 YEARS. >> I WOULD SAY A COMBINATION OF TRAFFIC, THE SOILS. I'VE SEEN THE SOILS ARE REAL CLAY SOIL, SO THE DRIES IT SHRINKS AND THEN WHEN IT GETS WET IT SWELLS, SO IT'S ALL THAT COMBINATION. >> YOU DIDN'T DO ROAD STABILIZATION BACK IN THOSE DAYS MUCH. PROBABLY. >> PROBABLY SO, YES. >> THANK YOU. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? DOES ANYONE WISH TO MAKE A MOTION? >> MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K1 IS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. >> TRACY, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SHISTO. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> ITEM K1. WE CAN BARELY HEAR THAT LAST AYE. ITEM K1 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ITEM K2, [K.2. ZPD25-0003 - Southgate PD-134 Text Amendment - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD25-0003 – Southgate PD-134 Text Amendment) to amend Planned Development No. 134 with both non-residential and residential uses, by modifying SG-M1 standards pertaining to block standards, Subsection 3.5, and thoroughfare standards. The property is generally located west of Gerault Road and north of International Parkway. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 4 to 3 at its November 10, 2025, meeting)] LEXIN IS GOING TO PRESENT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, AND IT'S TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE FOR REZONING IN THE SOUTHGATE AREA. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. COUNCIL. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROPOSED TEXT AMENDMENT TO THE SOUTHGATE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, AND HERE IS A MORE DETAILED VIEW. YOU CAN SEE IT'S AN UNDEVELOPED AREA AT THE INTERSECTION OF G AND INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY ON THE NORTHWEST SIDE. THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AND THE ZONING IS PD 134, WHICH WAS THE SOUTHGATE ORDINANCE WITH COMBINED USES BECAUSE IT INCLUDED BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND NON RESIDENTIAL USES. HERE IS THE MAP OF THE SUB ZONES. THIS IS ZONE SG-M1. THIS IS THE AREA THAT WE ARE DISCUSSING TONIGHT. AS I SAID, SOUTHGATE IS A LARGER ORDINANCE, OVERALL, IT HAS MULTIPLE ZONES WITHIN IT, BUT IT'S JUST SG-M1 THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR MODIFICATION. HERE'S JUST A SUMMARY OF ALL THE REQUESTED MODIFICATIONS, AND THEN I'LL GO THROUGH WITH SLIDES THAT CORRESPOND IN ORDER WITH THIS LIST. FIRST IS TO MODIFY BLOCK STANDARDS, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ELIMINATE THE MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH FOR SG-M1. THIS IS NOTED AS 800 FEET IN THE PD STANDARDS. IT'S NOT ACTUALLY POSSIBLE FOR THE PROPERTY TO EXCEED 800 FEET IN BLOCK LENGTH, SO I GUESS THE APPLICANT FEELS THAT IT'S AN UNNECESSARY STANDARD. REMOVE THE RESTRICTION OF NO PARKING WITHIN 60 FEET OF THE BLOCK CORNER AND REVISE THE LANGUAGE TO STATE THAT PARKING IS ALLOWED. ALLOW STREET F TO BE DEDICATED AS AN EASEMENT. REMOVE THE CONNECTION OF STREET E TO THE WESTERN PD-181 PROPERTY DUE TO CHANGES ON THE WESTERN SITE THAT RENDER THE CONNECTION UNNECESSARY. [00:40:02] UPDATE ORIENTATION OF PARKING, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW PARKING ADJACENT TO OPEN SPACE AREAS IN BOTH EASTERN AND WESTERN PORTIONS OF SG-M1. I WILL SAY IN RELATION TO THIS REQUEST, P&Z DID NOT RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS CONDITION AND THE APPLICANT SAID THAT HE WAS FINE WITH REMOVING THIS AS ONE OF HIS REQUESTS. WE DON'T HAVE UPDATED EXHIBITS THOUGH AS PART OF THE PACKET. IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL ALSO WANTED TO REMOVE FROM CONSIDERATION, JUST TO MAKE NOTE OF THAT, THAT THE PACKET WOULD NEED TO BE UPDATED WITH THAT INFORMATION. REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR STREET C TO CONNECT TO SG-R2, EXISTING RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD AND SG-M1 SUB ZONES. THE APPLICANT IS ALSO INCLUDING TEXT TO CLARIFY THAT A SCREENING WALL IS NOT REQUIRED BETWEEN THOSE TWO SUB ZONES, BUT IT IS NOT STAFF'S OPINION THAT THERE IS ONE REQUIRED. CLARIFY STANDARDS THAT WOULD ALLOW THE SIDEWALK CONNECTION BETWEEN SG-R2 TO SG-M1 SUB ZONES TO FOLLOW GERAULT ROAD. CLARIFY THAT STREET E AND B ARE TO BE INSTALLED AS EASEMENTS INSTEAD OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. ADD A NEW STREET SECTION FOR STREET E TO ALLOW 90 DEGREE PARKING. THE CURRENT OPTIONS DO NOT PERMIT 90 DEGREE, BUT THAT IS NORMALLY SOMETHING THAT IS ALLOWED WITHIN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN. THEN CORRECT FIRE LANE SIZE TO MEET FIRE CODE REQUIREMENTS. THERE WAS A TYPO IN A SECTION ON THE SIZE OF THE FIRE LANE. NOW I'LL GO THROUGH. THE FIRST ONE, AS I MENTIONED, WAS THAT 800 FOOT BLOCK LENGTH. THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS NOW IS 800 FEET IN THIS SG-M1 ZONE. THE APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT TO NA BECAUSE HE SAID IT REALLY IT COULDN'T BE EXCEEDED ANYWAY. HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. THIS SECTION CURRENT SAYS THAT NO PARKING WITHIN 60 FEET OF THE BLOCK CORNER. APPLICANTS REQUESTING TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE TO SAY PARKING IS ALLOWED WITHIN 60 FEET OF BUILDING CORNER. HERE IS A NUMBER OF NOTES OR CONDITIONS WE HAVE WITHIN THIS CONCEPT PLAN THAT'S INCLUDED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE FOR SG-M1. YOU CAN SEE HERE ON NUMBER 3. MOST OF THIS TEXT IS SAYING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ALL IN RED, A THIRD ENTRY MAY BE ADDED, ALLOWING A WRITE IN WRITE OUT, VEHICULAR TURNING MOVEMENT, WEST OF STREET A INTERSECTION. IT'S REALLY THIS IS JUST CHANGING IT TO SAY THAT IT WILL BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT AND NOT HAVE TO BE IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN. THERE'S A LOT OF RED TEXT, BUT BASICALLY IT'S JUST SAYING THIS WILL BE AN ACCESS EASEMENT. HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE. CURRENTLY, NOTE 10, YOU CAN SEE NOTE 10 POINTS TO THERE, SAYS THE CONNECTION OF STREET E TO THE PROPERTY TO THE WEST SHALL BE DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE A MUTUAL CROSS ACCESS EASEMENT. THAT IS NORMALLY WHAT THE TOWN WOULD WANT TO SEE IS CROSS ACCESS NEXT TO ADJACENT NON-RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THAT'S NEXT TO THE LOWER HALF OF THE DUKE SILVERN PROJECT. THAT'S WHERE THERE'S PROPOSED TO BE A DETENTION POND THERE, AN AMENITY POND, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO CONNECT TO. JUST BECAUSE OF HOW THAT ADJACENT PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED, IF WE PROVIDED A CONNECTION THERE, IT WOULD NOT GO TO ANYTHING. I THINK WITH THAT CHANGE, WOULD MAKE SENSE. ALSO, ADDING ON THIS LOT, ONLY BUILDINGS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PARK AREA DUE TO THE CONSTRAINTS OF THE SITE DEPTH. THAT AGAIN, IS SPEAKING TO THE ALLOWING THE PARKING NEXT TO THE PARK AREA, WHICH THE APPLICANT DID SAY HE WAS OPEN TO REMOVING THAT, BUT IT'S IN THE CURRENT EXHIBIT. GOING TO THE NEXT SECTION. THIS IS THAT BULB END OF SG-M1. IT HAS A NARROW SKINNY PIECE AND THEN IT BULBS OUT AT THE END ON THE EAST. HERE, NUMBER 2, THERE'S SOME PROPOSED TEXT CHANGE, JUST TO SAY THE EXACT LOCATION FOR ENGINEERING STANDARDS. NUMBER 3, CURRENTLY SAYS STREET C SHALL PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO ZONE SG-R2. SO SG-R2 IS A RESIDENTIAL ZONE IMMEDIATELY NORTH. YOU CAN SEE THAT IS SAYING THAT IT WILL CONNECT AND THE NOTE IS ADDED TO THREE RIGHT HERE. IT'S SHOWING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A STREET THAT CONNECTS FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA DIRECTLY INTO THIS COMMERCIAL AREA. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE THAT, SAY NO CONNECTION REQUIRED TO ZONE SG-R2, CURB INSTALL REQUIRED INSTEAD. NUMBER 4. IT SAYS, AN ADDITIONAL WRITE IN WRITE OUT ACCESS FROM SOUTH BOUND GERAULT SHALL BE PERMITTED. THAT'S ALL SAYING THE SAME. THEN THIS SAYS ANY ACCESS POINT MUST BE 360 FEET FROM ANY OTHER INTERSECTION. THAT'S JUST GENERAL INFORMATION AS OPPOSED TO. [00:45:01] IT USED TO SAY OR CURRENTLY SAYS, SHALL BE PERMITTED TO PROVIDE A CONNECTION TO ZONE SG-R2, STREET Z, AND THE SG-M1 PARKING AREA. AGAIN, THAT'S TALKING ABOUT THAT CONNECTION TO SG-R2. WE GO DOWN TO SIX, THIS WAS PROPOSED TO SAY ON THIS LOT, ONLY BUILDINGS SHALL BE ALLOWED TO HAVE PARKING BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE PARK AREA, SO THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY GO AWAY. IT PREVIOUSLY SAID, TALKED ABOUT NO PARKING SHALL BE PERMITTED THERE, OR THAT'S WHAT IT CURRENTLY SAYS. HERE WE PROVIDE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS SG-R2 ZONE TO THE SG-M1 ZONE. THAT IS NOTE 9. THIS IS POINTING HERE, AND IT'S TALKING ABOUT, AGAIN, SINCE THERE WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE A STREET CONNECTION THERE, THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE A SIDEWALK ALONG WITH THAT STREET CONNECTION. THE APPLICANTS PROPOSE TO CHANGE THE TEXT TO STAY, WOULD STILL BE A SIDEWALK THAT CONNECTS, BUT THEN SAYS THAT FOLLOWS THE GRADE USED FOR THE ROADWAY DESIGN. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT GOING ALONG GERAULT THERE. THE APPLICANT HAS SAID HE STILL IS INTERESTED IN PROVIDING SOME TRAIL CONNECTION THERE, BUT THERE WOULDN'T BE A ROAD THERE ANYMORE, SO THE ACTUAL SIDEWALK WOULD BE ALONG GERAULT ONLY. THEN ADDING THIS, NO PHYSICAL SCREEN WALL SHALL BE REQUIRED BETWEEN SG-M1 AND SG-R2. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THE APPLICANT WANTED TO HAVE IN THERE FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. THERE IS NO SCREEN WALL REQUIRED THERE. AGAIN, THIS WAS ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO BE MORE OF A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, AND SO IT WAS A THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE MORE INTEGRATED. THERE WASN'T SCREENING WALL REQUIRED BETWEEN DIFFERENT USES. >> CAN WE DISTRACT ON THAT FOR A MOMENT. LET'S START WITH NUMBER 2. IT SAYS EXACT LOCATION PER ENGINEERING STANDARDS. WHAT'S THE IMPACT OF ADDING THIS LANGUAGE? WON'T IT ALWAYS BE PER ENGINEERING STANDARDS? >> YES. >> OKAY. IF THERE'S NO SCREENING WALL REQUIRED, WHY DO WE NEED LANGUAGE THAT SAYS NO SCREENING WALL REQUIRED? IS THERE A THOUGHT THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE ONE EVEN THOUGH IT ALREADY IS NOT REQUIRED? >> PROBABLY BE BETTER TO ASK THE APPLICANT THE THOUGHT BEHIND IT. PERHAPS JUST BECAUSE IT DOESN'T SAY EITHER WAY, HE HAS CONCERNS THAT IN THE FUTURE. SOMEONE WOULD INTERPRET THAT TO MEAN THAT, WELL, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT YOU WON'T PROVIDE ONE, SO MAYBE IT MEANT YOU HAD TO. >> OKAY. THEN WOULDN'T THE SIDEWALK FOLLOW THE GRADE? >> YES. >> OKAY. >> AGAIN, I WOULD TALK TO THE APPLICANT TO GET MORE OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND THAT. MY UNDERSTANDING WAS JUST TO PROVIDE CLARIFICATION THAT IT WASN'T GOING TO BE FOLLOWING THIS STREET THAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO CONNECT THERE BETWEEN SG-R2 AND SG-M1. NOW, IT WOULD JUST BE FOLLOWING THE GERAULT ROAD. >> I THINK WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ITEMS. I GUESS WE'LL JUST FINISH THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE'LL JUST HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD. >> THIS IS JUST THE AMENDMENT TO SAY THAT STREET B AND STREET E ARE ALLOWED TO BE DEDICATED AS AN EASEMENT IN SG-M1 ONLY. YOU CAN SEE HERE IS STREET E, AND HERE IS STREET B, THAT LITTLE PIECE THERE. STAFF DOESN'T HAVE ANY CONCERN WITH THIS. THEY'RE ALREADY DEDICATED AS EASEMENTS ON THE PLAT. I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. THERE'S JUST SOME CONFUSING LANGUAGE IN THE SOUTHGATE ORDINANCE THAT CALLED ALL OF THESE STREET SECTIONS, SO I THINK IT'S FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. THIS IS SHOWING THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT. AGAIN, THE STREET C, IT USED TO SHOW THAT IT WAS CONNECTING BETWEEN THIS SG-R2. THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED. IT WAS HAVING A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THERE AND THE SG-M1 MORE NON RESIDENTIAL AREA. NOW THE NEW PROPOSAL IS THAT IT ONLY GOES TO THERE, IT WON'T CONNECT ALL THE WAY THROUGH INSTEAD THIS STREET WILL TURN AND CONNECT TO GERAULT ROAD THERE INSTEAD. THIS IS THE NEW THOROUGHFARE OPTION THAT'S PROPOSED, THE COMMERCIAL 4 STREET SECTION. THIS SHOWS THE PERPENDICULAR PARKING, 90 DEGREE PARKING. THESE ARE THE CURRENT STREET E OPTIONS, AND SO IT SHOWS THE 60 DEGREE PARKING SPACES OR PARALLEL AS AN OPTION FOR ON-STREET PARKING. THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE 90 DEGREE PARKING. THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT COMMERCIAL 4 WITH THE 90 DEGREE PARKING, IT WOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED ON STREET E, WHICH IS THAT THIS MAIN STREET RIGHT HERE THAT RUNS THROUGH SG-M1. THIS IS SHOWING THE DIMENSIONS FOR COMMERCIAL 4 AND ALSO UPDATING THAT COMMERCIAL FIRE LANE STANDARD, [00:50:03] AS I SAID, THERE WAS A TYPO THERE AND SHOWING THE SAME CORRECTION HERE. THAT'S THE LIST OF ALL THE MODIFICATIONS. JUST TO GO THROUGH, SHOW SOME PHOTOS NOW. THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST INTO THAT BULB AREA. HERE WE ARE LOOKING SOUTHWEST. THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST. YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THAT ACCESS LANE EASEMENT PUT IN. THIS IS LOOKING TO NORTHWEST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT. IT'S ONLY PUT IN ON ONE SIDE. HERE IS THE CAPTION FOR THIS PROJECT. THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS AN APPLICATION, BUT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT COUNSEL HAS. >> JUST ONE OTHER QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU, ALEXANDER, THE 600 FOOT REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE REMOVING. >> EIGHT HUNDRED FOOT. >> I'M SORRY, 800 FOOT. YOU SAID THAT WASN'T REALLY POSSIBLE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT ANYWAY? >> YES. THAT'S CORRECT. >> IS THERE ANY IMPACT OF REMOVING THAT OR LEAVING IT IN? >> NO. I DON'T THINK IT'S BECAUSE BASICALLY THE BLOCK LENGTHS ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THIS INDIAN TRAILS ROAD HAS ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED. WHEN YOU MEASURE THE TWO SIDES, BECAUSE IT BASICALLY JUST MEASURES UNTIL THERE'S AN INTERVENING STREET. THIS IS CONSIDERED A STREET. THIS IS CONSIDERED A STREET. THERE'S ANOTHER STREET PROPOSED HERE ACROSS FROM THERE. NOTHING WOULD EXCEED 800 FEET. LEAVE IT IN, TAKE IT OUT. I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE THE WAY THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA DEVELOPS. >> THANKS. >> ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? ARE YOU ALL READY FOR THE APPLICANT? >> THE HEARING FIRST? >> NO. WE HAVEN'T OPENED IT. IS THE APPLICANT FIRST? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T EVEN OPENED THAT. >> IF YOU JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> SIMONS CROSS ARCHITECTS, 1255 WEST 15TH STREET, SUITE 125 PLANO, TEXAS. THANK YOU ALL FOR TAKING TIME TO HEAR OUR REQUEST THIS EVENING. THIS AMENDMENT IS FOR THE SOUTHGATE PD, AS YOU'VE BEEN DISCUSSED ALREADY FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. PROJECT OVERVIEW IS FOR THE SG-M1 AREA. WE PUT SG-R2 ON HERE ALSO BECAUSE THERE'S AN IMPACT OF HOW IT AFFECTS THE NORTHERN BOUNDARY AREA, AND WE'VE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA ALSO. THE REQUEST IS TO APPROVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT ON THE SG-M1 ZONE WITHIN SOUTHGATE DEVELOPMENT. THE KEY TO THIS IS TO IMPROVE PARKING STANDARDS AND ELIMINATE INTERNAL STREET C RECONNECTION TO THE SG-R2, ALSO IMPROVING COMMERCIAL DENSITY IN THE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH THE PARKING STANDARDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE REQUESTING. OBJECTIVE IS IMPROVE COMMERCIAL FUNCTIONALITY AND PARKING EFFICIENCY WITHIN SG-M1. OBJECTIVE 3 IS MAKE IT COMPATIBLE, ENHANCED NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY BY REMOVING DIRECT ACCESS TO SG-R2 BECAUSE THIS IS NO LONGER A URBAN WALKABLE SPACE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED. IT IS NOW A STANDARD RESIDENTIAL BEHIND A COMMERCIAL FRONTAGE THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME DEVELOPMENT IDEA VISION AS IT DOES AS IT WAS PREVIOUSLY INTENDED. THERE'S ITEMS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW THAT CUT ALL OF THAT OUT ANYWAY, LIKE THE MASONRY WALL THAT YOU WERE DISCUSSING. THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE HAD MASONRY WALL ADDED IN THERE IS NOT BEING ADDED BECAUSE THE NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY, THERE'S A GIANT MASONRY WALL ALONG THAT THAT REALLY CREATES A PEDESTRIAN BOUNDARY TO ACCESS THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE, IF YOU WERE IN AN URBAN CORE. OBJECTIVE 3 IS FOR SAFETY, MAINTAIN SAFE AND DIRECT ACCESS TO GERAULT ROAD, CONSISTENT WITH TOWN ENGINEERING STANDARDS. AS I SAID, WE TALKED TO THE RESIDENTS TO THE NORTH OF OUR PROPERTY, AND ALL OF THEIR CONCERNS WERE PASSED THROUGH TRAFFIC. PEOPLE CUTTING THROUGH ON GERAULT TO GET TO WHERE WE'RE AT OR USING IT AS A BISECTOR TO THE TRAFFIC ON THE MAIN HIGHWAY THAT FRONTS OUR DEVELOPMENT. [00:55:03] IF WE CAN REMOVE THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. STREET C. YOU'LL SEE RIGHT HERE AS A STAFF SHOWED YOU EARLIER. CURRENTLY IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, IT SHOWS A DIRECT CONNECTION TO STREET E, WHICH WOULD BRING TRAFFIC DIRECTLY THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. PARKING ON STREET E IS REQUIRED, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY ANGLED IN PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH IN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, IF THIS WERE AN URBAN SPACE, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE YOU WOULD HAVE A DIFFERENT FUNCTIONAL USE OF THE SPACE. BUT BECAUSE IT'S MORE TRADITIONAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NOW, THAT DRASTICALLY REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF PARKING BY AROUND 15%, LESS PARKING WITH ANGLED PARKING, CONSIDERABLY LESS WITH PARALLEL PARKING. YOU GET ABOUT HALF AS MANY SPACES WITH PARALLEL PARKING, WHICH IS GOING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF COMMERCIAL DENSITY IN THE SPACE BECAUSE PARKING PUSHES DENSITY. ACCESS TO GERAULT ROAD SAY THAT WRONG, I'M SORRY. IS IT GERAULT? >> YEAH. >> ACCESS TO GERAULT ROAD REQUIRES ALSO TO CONNECT THROUGH STREET C AND CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC CONDITIONS WILL RESULT FROM THAT. CHALLENGES WITH THE CURRENT PD IS STREET C CONNECTION, CREATES POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC THROUGH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. RIGID PARKING LIMITATIONS, RESTRICTS MARKET VIABLE COMMERCIAL USERS AND OVERFLOW PARKING THAT WILL EVENTUALLY BE IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. LIMITED FRONTAGE PARKING REDUCES FLEXIBILITY FOR SHARED PARKING INTERNAL TO COMMERCIAL, RESIDENT CONCERN. NEIGHBORHOOD TO OUR NORTH AND SG-R2 REQUESTED TRAFFIC MITIGATION TO REMOVE AS MUCH OF THAT AS POSSIBLE AND WE DEVELOPED. YOU SAW THIS LIST A MINUTE AGO, BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT ON THERE SO THAT WE COULD GO THROUGH IT AND IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS WHILE I'M GIVEN THIS, YOU CAN PLEASE ASK ME RIGHT NOW. HAPPY TO EXPLAIN THEM OR OUR IDEAS BEHIND THEM. MAXIMUM BLOCK LENGTH. WE WANTED TO REMOVE THAT JUST BECAUSE IT'S REDUNDANT. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER IF IT'S NOT, WE THOUGHT WE WOULD CORRECT IT AND THAT WOULD FIX THIS AREA. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OVER 800 FEET AS IT IS. ADDITION OF PERPENDICULAR PARKING STANDARD COMMERCIAL 4. AGAIN, THAT'S GOING TO GIVE US HIGHER DENSITY OF COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE, 15% MORE LEADS TO 15% MORE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH LEADS TO A HIGHER TAX RATE. NO PARKING WITHIN 60 FOOT OF THE BLOCK CORNER. PARKING WITHIN 60 FOOT OF THE BLOCK CORNER IS ADVANTAGEOUS BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS A STANDARD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT NOW AND THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED JUST LIKE ANY OTHER FIRE LAND IN A COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR WHERE YOU WILL HAVE A 30-FOOT RADIUS AND AT THE END OF THAT 30-FOOT RADIUS FROM FIRE STANDARD IS GOING TO HAVE THE BEGINNING OF PARKING. I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IN THE NEXT ONE. THAT WAS HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO VISUALIZE ON THE LAST PRESENTATION THAT WE GAVE. ACCESS POINTS B AND F. I THINK IT WAS SHOWN IN STAFF AS E AND F, BUT B AND F WERE CALLED OUT AS A STREET, AND WE JUST WANTED TO DEFINE THAT BECAUSE IF THOSE WERE A STREET, THOSE WOULD BE SOMETHING THE CITY WOULD EVENTUALLY HAVE TO TAKE OVER AND IT WOULD BE ON YOU ALL TO UPKEEP AND TAKE CARE OF THOSE STREETS. WE WANTED TO BRING THAT BACK OUT AND MAKE THEM JUST ACCESS POINTS. CROSS CONNECTIVITY WAS EXPLAINED. THERE'S GOING TO BE A DETENTION POND THERE, SO THAT CROSS CONNECTIVITY TO THE LAND OR WEST BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE NECESSARY. STREET C CONNECTION, WE'RE REQUESTING THAT IT NOT BE CONNECTED BECAUSE IT POSITIVELY IMPACTS WHAT THE RESIDENTS THAT WE SPOKE TO WANTED AND REDUCES THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA. GERAULT ROAD CONNECTION PER THOROUGHFARE PLAN. ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE SHOWN THIS ON THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN IS BECAUSE ONE, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ENGINEERING STANDARDS, WHICH IS 360 FEET FROM AN EXISTING ROADWAY SPACE OR INTERSECTION OR OTHER ACCESS POINT. BUT IF THERE IS A ACCESS POINT ON THAT DRASTIC CURVE, IT'S NOT AS SAFE. WE WANTED TO MOVE THAT ONE TO THE NORTH BECAUSE IF YOU'RE COMING OUT ON A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DIRECT VISIBILITY DOWN THAT ROADWAY VERSUS BEING ON A CURVE AND NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE AROUND THAT CURVE FOR VEHICLES THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE ROAD. THEN KEEP LANDSCAPE, BUT NO MASONRY WALL. [01:00:03] THAT'S THE ITEM THAT WE'RE JUST PREPARING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WILL FOLLOW THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPING IN THIS AREA. COMMERCIAL NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL, THERE'S A REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER, SO IT WILL BE LANDSCAPE FOR THE PROPER SCREENING OF THAT CURRENT CODE REQUIREMENT. BUT WE JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO PUT IN A MASONRY WALL LIKE THEY PUT INTO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY ON THE WESTERN PORTION OF OUR PROPERTY. WE THINK IT JUST TAKES AWAY FROM THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE GREEN SPACE. THIS IS A CODE CLARIFICATION FOR THE 60-FOOT SETBACK FROM THE ROADWAY, THE BLOCK CORNER. THE CURRENT ONE IS HERE ON THE LEFT, AND THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE REQUIRING. RIGHT NOW, THE CODE REQUIRES A 60 FOOT BEFORE YOU CAN START ANY PARKING. WHEN YOU DO THAT IN THIS CONDITION, IT'S REALLY JUST NOT AN EFFECTIVE USE OF THE SPACE. IT'S YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OR THE EFFICIENCY OF THE BUILDING. WHEN YOU GET THOSE ADDITIONAL SIX SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE ON EACH SIDE OF THAT ROADWAY BY HAVING A 30-FOOT STANDARD COMMERCIAL CORNER, THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW ANOTHER 1,250 SQUARE FEET OF COMMERCIAL DENSITY IN THAT SPACE, WHICH IS GENERALLY ABOUT THE SIZE OF ONE WHOLE TENANT. TENANT SPACES FOR SMALL BUSINESSES ADD UP TO 1,250, 01,500 SQUARE FEET PER SPACE. THAT WOULD BE ONE MORE BUSINESS THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. I'M SORRY. PREVIOUS. SUPPORT FOR THIS IS STRONGER COMMERCIAL VIABILITY, OPERATIONAL FLEXIBILITY, IMPROVED MIXED USE PERFORMANCE, REDUCED SPILLOVER INTO NEIGHBORHOODS, BETTER TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, SUPPORT FOR EVOLVING MOBILITY TRENDS, GREATER SITE EFFICIENCY FOR PHASING, SUPPORT FOR EVENTS AND COMMUNITY PROGRAMMING, CUSHION FOR FUTURE TENANT MIXED CHANGES, STRONGER POSITIONING DURING ENTITLEMENT, LENDER INVESTOR CONFIDENCE, AND HIGHER LAND VALUE REVENUE POTENTIAL ON THE BACK END. THE NEIGHBORHOOD COORDINATION WAS COMPLETED EARLY OCTOBER. WE SENT OUT A PACKET TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITHIN 250 FEET, AND WE HAD A FEW PEOPLE SHOW UP TO THAT, AND THEIR NUMBER ONE CONCERN WAS SAFETY AND INCREASED TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND NOT INCREASING IT EVEN MORE. WE MADE SURE TO TELL AND THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO HAVE MORE PARKING AND THE REDUCED CONNECTION WAS TO KEEP VEHICLES OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE SURE THERE'S LESS OVERFLOW SPILLOVER FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO FIND PARKING FOR COMMERCIAL IN THIS AREA INTO THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. ROADWAY SIDEWALK AND TRAILHEAD CONNECTIVITY AT THE EASTERN PORTION. CURRENT STREET C ALLOWS COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC TOWARDS SG-R2, WHICH WE TALKED ABOUT THROUGH STREET C. TRAILHEAD IS NOT CURRENTLY CONNECTED, AND THE SIDEWALK FRONT EDGE RIGHT NOW IS NOT CONNECTED. THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PROPOSED. APOLOGIZE. STREET C SHOULD CONNECT TO SG-R2. TRAILHEAD CONNECTION WILL BE COMPLETED AT THIS POINT AROUND BACK TO THE INTERNAL TRAIL TO THE RESIDENTIAL, AND THEN SIDEWALK PER ENGINEERING STANDARDS WILL CONNECT DOWN THROUGH THIS ROADWAY FRONTAGE. ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT IS THERE'S A MAJOR PROHIBITIVE GRADE CHANGE RIGHT HERE ON THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL. THAT WAS ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS OF REMOVING THAT STREET. IT WOULD BE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT A STREET CUT THROUGH THAT AREA DUE TO THE GRADE CHANGE AS IT IS. >> OUR CURRENT REQUEST FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN COMPLIES WITH THE TOWN THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS IT IS NOW, ALIGNS PROPERLY WITH ENGINEERING STANDARDS AND SUPPORTS HIGHER DENSITY OF DEVELOPABLE MIXED-USE ACTIVATION OF SG-M1 CONSISTENT WITH FM 2499 CORRIDOR GOALS. IN OUR COORDINATION, STAFF HAS REVIEWED AND ENGINEERING APPROVED ALL OF OUR REQUESTS. RESIDENTS WERE DOCUMENTED AND INCORPORATED INTO THE REQUESTS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE COUNCIL AND P&Z. THE OUTCOME IS TO REDUCE TRAFFIC INFLUX ON SURROUNDING RESIDENTS THROUGH INTERNAL ACCESS AND INCREASE PARKING DENSITY ON SITE WHILE ALSO IMPROVING COMMERCIAL MIXED-USE DENSITY FOR CURRENT AND FUTURE VIABILITY. WE REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT, [01:05:05] AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER. >> COULD YOU GO OVER THE MASONRY WALL AGAIN, EXACTLY [OVERLAPPING] OR THE MASONRY WALL IS GOING TO BE REMOVED? >> LET ME GO BACK TO IT BECAUSE I CAN SHOW IT TO YOU. IT'S PROBABLY EASIER TO JUST DO IT THIS WAY. IF YOU LOOK ON THE SLIDE RIGHT NOW, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, ALL THE WAY DOWN BEHIND THESE TOWNHOMES, THAT IS A COMPLETE MASONRY WALL NOW. THEN THE ORIGINAL INTENT AND THE VISION OF THIS PROPERTY WAS TO HAVE THAT BE A SHARED DRIVE ACCESS, WHICH THEN WOULD ALLOW PARKING OFF OF THAT SPACE, AND IT WOULD EXTEND THE DEPTH OF THAT COMMERCIAL SPACE, GIVING YOU MUCH MORE ABILITY TO PARK THAT SPACE AND HAVE A HIGHER DENSITY OF COMMERCIAL WITH THE STANDARD OF STREET E, THE CROSS STREET IN THE FRONT. BUT BECAUSE THAT'S GONE, THAT DRASTICALLY REDUCES THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THE SITE AS A WHOLE. >> WHERE ARE YOU PROPOSING TO REMOVE THE MASONRY WALL? >> OH, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO REMOVE IT. WE'RE JUST SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO ADD IT IN, IS LIKE WE'RE CLARIFYING, SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A MASONRY ALL REQUIRED ON THE EASTERN PORTION TO THE NORTH, BETWEEN THAT WE'RE REMOVING STREET C. WE'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO HAVE A REQUIREMENT OF PUTTING A MASONRY WALL IN THERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> BECAUSE THERE ALREADY IS A MASONRY. >> BECAUSE THERE'S ALREADY ONE TO THE WEST. WE DON'T WANT SOMEONE IN PLANTING LOOKING AT IT AND GO, OH, YOU NEED TO ADD ONE HERE, TOO. >> COULD YOU SHOW WHERE THE MASONRY WALL WOULD BE? >> YES. >> WHERE IS IT RIGHT NOW? OR IS IT THAT WAY? >> RIGHT NOW, ON THE MOST WESTERN PORTION, IT'S RIGHT HERE AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER ONE RIGHT HERE. [OVERLAPPING] >> SHE'S WONDERING WHERE IT WOULD BE. >> OH, I GOT YOU. I'M SO SORRY. WHERE IT WOULD BE IF YOU WERE ASKED TO ADD IT, IT WOULD BE RIGHT HERE, MORE THAN LIKELY, WHERE SOMEONE WOULD SAY THAT'S WHERE IT WOULD NEED TO BE BASED ON THE WESTERN PORTIONS. >> THAT WOULD BE PROTECTION FOR THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE THERE, JUST LIKE THE WESTERN WALL, THAT IS THE PROTECTION FOR THE RESIDENTS. >> BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU WANTED IT CURBED, AND THEN YOU WERE GOING TO DO LANDSCAPING. >> YES. [OVERLAPPING] ALL OF THE STANDARD REQUIREMENT, WHICH GIVES THE PROPER LANDSCAPE SCREENING FOR THE AREA. BUT FIRST, I SEE THE MASONRY WALL THAT'S BEHIND THE TOWNHOMES, NOT A PROTECTION. I SEE IT AS A DIVIDING WALL, WHICH REDUCES THE IMPACT OF FOOT TRAFFIC BACK AND FORTH FOR PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY WANT TO ACCESS THIS SPACE, WHICH WAS THE VISION OF THE ORIGINAL PD WAS TO HAVE MOBILITY. WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP AT LEAST THE END OF IT ON THE EAST SIDE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVE A TRAILHEAD THAT GOES AROUND THERE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO EVENTUALLY HAVE THAT BE A MASONRY WALL, WHICH CREATES THE SAME ISSUE YOU HAVE TO THE NORTH HERE. >> I GUESS MY ISSUE WITH REMOVING MASONRY WALL IS ANOTHER BENEFIT IS JUST THE NOISE ABATEMENT. >> NO. HE'S NOT REMOVING IT. >> NOT REMOVING IT. >> HE'S NOT REMOVING A MASONRY. >> HE'S ASKING TO BE ALLOWED TO NOT BUILD IT. >> WE'RE ASKING [OVERLAPPING] NOT TO HAVE TO BUILD IT. >> NO. I UNDERSTAND THAT HE DOESN'T WANT TO BUILD IT, BUT IT IS A NOISE ABATEMENT. >> BUT THE TOWN IS ALSO SAYING THAT'S NOT REQUIRED. IT'S NOT REQUIRED. >> [OVERLAPPING] IT'S NOT REQUIRED. >> BY CODE, CURRENTLY, IT'S NOT REQUIRED. >> NONE OF THESE THINGS ARE REQUIRED. >> THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR CLIENT REQUESTED THAT WE PUT IN TO CLARIFY IT BECAUSE IT ISN'T REQUIRED, AND WE DIDN'T WANT SOMEONE THINKING THAT IT IS BECAUSE IT'S BUILT RIGHT NOW ON THE WESTERN PORTION. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? >> I THINK I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. THANK YOU. >> I WANT TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT BECAUSE I'M OKAY WITH THAT IN THAT GREEN SPACE, THE PARK AREA, I GUESS. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT MIGHT GIVE THE TOWNHOMES THAT FACE JOERIL A LITTLE MORE PRIVACY. ALSO, IT WOULD JUST BE A NICER BACKSTOP. I KNOW IT'S NOT REQUIRED. >> I WANT TO ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND I DON'T MEAN LITERALLY. [LAUGHTER] IN TERMS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. NICE PRESENTATION. YOU EXPLAINED THE RATIONALE. I DON'T KNOW IF THE FOLKS WHO SENT YOU IN HERE GAVE YOU ALL THE HISTORY, BUT THIS IS ONE OF OUR BIGGEST FAILURES AS A TOWN. JOHN V, I KNOW YOU REMEMBER THAT MEETING WELL. IN 2015 WHEN THEY APPROVED THIS THING AFTER IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR DENIAL BY P&Z, AND THEN THE COUNCIL OVERRODE THAT AND THEY DID IT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER MADE A LOT OF PROMISES. NOW, YOU SAID THIS IS NO LONGER AN URBAN WALKABLE SPACE. IT'S A STANDARD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. [01:10:01] I'M GOING TO READ TO YOU AND TO EVERYONE WHAT THE DEVELOPER SAID IN THEIR SLIDE ON APRIL 20, 2015, WHEN THEY GOT UP THERE, PROBABLY ABOUT MIDNIGHT OR 2:00 A.M. VERY LATE. >> CAN YOU PAUSE FOR ME? >> NO, I'M GOING TO KEEP GOING. JUST GIVE ME A SECOND. >> I GET THAT, BUT I'M SAYING WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS. >> WELL, WHEN YOU MAKE PROMISES TO GET ZONING, NOT YOU. BUT WHEN THE DEVELOPER MAKES PROMISES TO GET ZONING, AND THEN SAYS, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THIS INCREDIBLE URBAN WALKABLE SPACE. NOT A STANDARD COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN DOESN'T DO IT. WELL, MY JOB IS TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THE PROMISES. THIS IS WHAT THEY SAID. THIS WAS ON THEIR SLIDE. THEY SAID THE MASTER PLAN HAS THESE THINGS. HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO. WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE A DISTINCTIVE ENTRANCE TO FLOWER MOUND. WE'RE GOING TO ESTABLISH A VIBRANT TONE FOR THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE FLOWER MOUND GATEWAYS AT THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE TO TOWN. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE ARCHITECTURAL IMPACT ZONE. WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THE LANDMARK INTERSECTION OF JARO IN 2499. I GET CALLS ALL THE TIME THAT WE SCREWED UP THE SOUTHERN ENTRANCE TO TOWN BECAUSE THEY PROMISED THIS AND DIDN'T PUT IN ANY OF THE COMMERCIAL SPACE, AND GAVE US A WAREHOUSE PART. WHAT THE COUNCIL DID AT THAT TIME WAS THEY GAVE TREMENDOUS FLEXIBILITY TO THIS DEVELOPER AND SAID, WE TRUST YOU. WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE A LOT OF THINGS OPEN-ENDED. GO TO WORK. THEY DIDN'T DO. LEXIN SAID, THEY JUST WENT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THEY SOLD OFF THE RESIDENTIAL, THEY LET SOME OTHER TOWN DEVELOPER COME IN. THEY BUILT A BUNCH OF WAREHOUSES WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FLEX OFFICE SPACE. WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS MORE FLEXIBILITY. I HAVE ZERO TRUST FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPER TO DO ANYTHING THAT THEY SAY. WHEN THEY SAY, I WANT MORE THAN 800' WIDTH FOR A BUILDING, THAT I CAN'T FIT A BUILDING INTO IT, THAT SPACE. I IMMEDIATELY THINK WHAT ARE THESE GUYS UP TO, BECAUSE I DON'T TRUST THEM BECAUSE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING TO PROVE THAT THEY CAN EXECUTE WHAT THEY PROMISE. WHAT IS THE CURRENT INTENTION FOR THIS? WHERE ARE THE BINDING CONCEPT PLANS? BEFORE WE START CARVING UP SOME OF THESE EXCEPTIONS, WHICH SEEM REASONABLE ON THEIR FACE, I NEED TO SEE WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE, AND I NEED IT TO BE SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO FROM OUR STAFF, SO THAT WHEN WE MAKE THESE ADJUSTMENTS, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE END RESULTS IS GOING TO BE. BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT TODAY. CAN YOU PROVIDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? DO YOU HAVE UPDATED CONCEPT PLANS TO SHOW US? THE RENDERINGS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PRESENTATION WERE REALLY OVER THE TOP. >> I GET THAT. I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THAT. I WASN'T HERE WITH THAT. BUT ALSO, WE'RE NOT REQUIRED. I'M NOT REQUIRED AS A PRESENTER TO THIS SPACE TO PROVIDE AND SAY ALLOWED, BUT YOU'RE NOT REALLY ALLOWED TO ASK ME TO PROVIDE THAT WITHIN THIS SPACE IN HERE. IF YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO IT, THAT'S ONE THING, AND THAT'S WHAT STAFF WOULD SAY, PLEASE DO THAT, AND THEN WE WOULD GO BACK AND WE WOULD DO AN AMENDMENT TO IT, AND THAT STAFF WOULD SAY REQUIREMENT OF THIS PD AMENDMENT IS TO PROVIDE A CONCEPT PLAN, BUT I DON'T HAVE ONE. I HAD ONE, BUT THE OWNER DID NOT WANT TO SUBMIT ONE BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO SUBMIT. THEY'RE JUST TRYING TO CHANGE THIS PD. >> I DO THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT P&Z HAD WHEN I WATCHED THE MEETING. I KNOW THEY WERE TORN. IT WAS APPROVED BY FOUR TO THREE, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE. THERE WAS A LOT OF HESITANCE. SHOULD I SAY? BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THERE AND IT'S LIKE WHICH COMES FIRST, THE CHICKEN OR THE EGG, JUST TO DECIDE WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. I AGREE WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. >> CAN WE DENY THIS BECAUSE IT LACKS A CONCEPT PLAN THAT SHOWS US WHAT THEIR INTENT IS GOING TO BE? >> YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DENY IT BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DETAIL. A CONCEPT PLAN IS REQUIRED FOR ORIGINAL PD, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO REQUIRE AN AMENDED CONCEPT PLAN. I DON'T THINK THE ORDINANCE HAS TO SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT. >> IF WE WERE TO DENY A TABLE OR APPROVE ONLY THE PARTITIONS OF IT THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH AND PROVIDE THE GUIDANCE THAT WE'D LIKE TO SEE A CONCEPT PLAN BINDING THAT REFLECTS WHAT YOUR CHANGES ARE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH, THEN THAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE REQUEST OF THIS APPLICANT? >> IN MY OPINION, CORRECT. >> THANK YOU. >> ILLEGALLY, THAT'S RIGHT. >> WELL, BEFORE WE GO DOWN THAT ROAD, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER CONCERN, AND I DON'T KNOW THE SLIDE NUMBER BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT NUMBERED, BUT IT HAD TO DO WITH THE CODE CLARIFICATION SLIDE. IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN AROUND SEVEN, PERHAPS. IT HAD TO DO WITH THE PARKING EXCEPTION. >> THIS ONE HERE? >> YES. I DO HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT ELIMINATING THAT DEPTH OF 60' FROM A QUEUING STANDPOINT. AT 30', YOU'RE QUEUING POSSIBLY TWO COMPACT CARS. [01:15:05] YOU CAN GET ONE CYBER TRUCK IN THERE. THAT CAN CREATE SOME BACKED-UP TRAFFIC IN THE OTHER DIRECTIONS. I'M JUST NOT REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT. FOR ME, PARKING, I WOULDN'T PARK THAT CLOSE TO A CORNER GOING IN AND OUT AT ALL BECAUSE IT WOULD BE HARD FOR ME TO GET OUT OF MY PARKING SPOT SAFELY. >> IT'S A MAJOR SAFETY ISSUE, I THINK. >> I'VE DONE IT NUMEROUS TIMES IN COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT. >> I DON'T LIKE DOING. I DON'T LIKE PUTTING MY RESIDENTS THROUGH THAT AND HAVING THAT TRAFFIC BACKUP. IF YOU'RE TRYING TO QUEUE INTO A PARKING SPOT OR TRY TO GET OUT, IT CREATES SOME BACKUP, SO I DON'T PREFER IT. >> I LISTENED TO THE RATIONALE AT P&Z ALSO FOR NOT REMOVING THE ANGLED PARKING, KEEPING THE ANGLED PARKING. FOR THAT REASON SO MUCH EASIER TO GET IN AND OUT AND HELPED WITH QUEUING. I THINK YOU SAID SOMETHING EARLIER IN THE PRESENTATION ABOUT IMPROVING DENSITY. BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOUR DEFINITION OF IMPROVING DENSITY WOULD BE THE SAME AS MINE. YOU MIGHT BE THINKING IMPROVING EQUALS HIGHER DENSITY AND I MIGHT BE THINKING IMPROVING IS LOWER DENSITY. DID YOU MEAN YOU JUST WANT HIGHER DENSITY? ARE YOU EXCEEDING THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? >> IMPROVING DENSITY IS IMPROVING THE COMMERCIAL FOOT. IT IS A MIXED-USE SPACE. AS WE TALKED IN THE LAST P&Z MEETING, THERE'S 100 UNITS OF RESIDENTIAL, WHICH I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE RESIDENTIAL OR NOT, BUT THE DENSITY ALLOWING WITH THAT PARKING WOULD INCREASE ON THE BUILDING SIDE. BECAUSE EVERY TIME YOU TAKE A PARKING SPACE OUT, YOU'RE REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING BY 250'? >> I WOULD LIKE TO ASK LEXIN TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, PLEASE. I KNOW WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY WITH OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS, + OR -20%. DOES THIS EXCEED THAT 20%? IS THAT WHY IT NEEDS TO BE SPECIFIED NOW? >> NO. THERE'S NO CALCULATION YET FOR THE PARKING REQUIRED. THAT WOULD BE BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING AND THE USES THAT ARE IN IT. WE DON'T KNOW YET HOW MANY SPACES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED. WE JUST DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. THAT'S ALMOST LIKE STRAIGHT ZONING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY INFORMATION, BUT WE'RE ASKED TO MAKE SPECIAL EXCEPTIONS. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. I WOULD PREFER THAT THIS KIND OF AN EXCEPTION BE BROUGHT BACK ONCE YOU KNOW AND CAN SHARE WITH US WHAT KIND OF AN OCCUPANCY YOU PROPOSE FOR THAT AREA AND WHETHER IT'S A TRUE NECESSITY OR NOT. >> CAN YOU CLARIFY? YOU SAID THIS IS MIXED-USE 100 RESIDENTIAL BUT EARLIER, YOU SAID IT'S JUST GOING TO BE PURELY COMMERCIAL? >> NO. I NEVER SAID IT'S GOING TO BE PURELY COMMERCIAL. I JUST SAID [OVERLAPPING] COMMERCIAL SPACE. A MIXED-USE SPACE IS A COMMERCIAL SPACE. THAT'S HOW I PRESENT MYSELF. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE GROUND-FLOOR COMMERCIAL, YOU'RE IN COMMERCIAL SPACE, IT'S BUILT LIKE COMMERCIAL. THAT'S COMING FROM THE DESIGN ARCHITECTURE SIDE OF MY BRAIN. BUT IF IT WERE MIXED USE, IT WOULD HAVE A SECOND-FLOOR RESIDENTIAL, BUT YOU CAN ONLY HAVE 100 UNITS IN THE SPACE, WHICH I THINK I SAID AT P&Z, NO BOUTIQUE WOULD WORK HERE, 100 UNITS IS GOING TO WORK IN SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND I WOULDN'T SEE THAT BEING BUILT WHATSOEVER. >> THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. >> SURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE, BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING. CINDY YOURS FOR THE NEXT ITEM. I DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE SINCE I HAVE THIS OPENED, DOES ANYONE WISH TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? NO TAKERS. IT'S A FORMALITY, SO WE'LL JUST GO AHEAD AND CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL, IF YOU WISH TO DELIBERATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS? >> MY PREFERENCE WOULD JUST BE TO DENY IT AND SAY, COME BACK WITH A CONCEPT PLAN. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE, I THINK, FIVE ITEMS THAT ARE PROBABLY NOT CONTROVERSIAL TO THE POINT WHERE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO APPROVE AND I HAVE A LIST HERE, SO I'LL JUST GO OVER THEM REAL QUICK AND IF EVERYONE AGREES. >> JUST GO IN THE ORDER, I GUESS. >> NO, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE LIST. WE SAW ON THE PRESENTATION, BUT I'LL JUST READ THEM OUT. CORRECTING THE FIRE LANE TYPO. THAT'S ONE. REMOVING THE CONNECTION TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY, SHARED EASEMENT, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE A DRAINAGE NOW, SO THAT MAKES SENSE. REMOVING THE REQUIREMENT FOR STREET C TO CONNECT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA ON THE EAST SIDE. REMOVING STREET F AS A REQUIRED STREET AND ALLOW IT TO BE DEDICATED AS AN EASEMENT. HAVING IT AS AN EASEMENT MEANS IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY, NOT OURS. THEN ALSO CLARIFYING THAT STREET E AND B ARE TO BE INSTALLED AS EASEMENTS INSTEAD OF RIGHT AWAY. THOSE WOULD BE THE FIVE ITEMS. BRIN, IF I WERE TO MAKE A MOTION RIGHT NOW AND SAY, MOVE TO APPROVE WITH ONLY THE FIVE ITEMS JUST NOTED. WOULD THAT BE AN ACCEPTABLE MOTION? >> THAT'S CORRECT. I'LL ALLOW LEXIN IF SHE WANTS TO ADD ANY OTHER. I KNOW YOU MENTIONED THE PLANS MIGHT NEED TO BE REVISED. [01:20:01] I DON'T RECALL WHICH ITEM THAT IS. >> I THINK IT'S FINE. >> THAT WAS NOT RELATED TO ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT ADAM IS PROPOSING? >> NO. THAT WAS RELATED TO THE ITEM FOR IF THEY WANTED TO TAKE OFF THAT PARKING WOULD BE ALLOWED NEXT TO THE OPEN SPACE AREAS, THEN THEY WOULD NEED TO REQUIRE UPDATED EXHIBITS. THAT WAS MORE TO MAKE COUNCIL AWARE THAT WHAT EXACTLY WAS IN THE PACKET DIDN'T REFLECT THAT. BUT I THINK, AS THEY'RE PROPOSING NOW, OF COURSE, EVERYTHING WILL HAVE TO BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT INFORMATION. I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY SOMETHING REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE THE APPLICANT HAD SAID IT WAS A DIFFERENT STREET NAME. LET ME JUST MAKE SURE WHAT THIS SAYS IN THE CODE REVISIONS. THIS DOES SAY STREET B AND STREET E. >> THAT WOULD BE STREET F. >> THERE'S ANOTHER ONE THAT SAYS F. >> THAT'S WHAT I GAVE YOU. >> THIS IS WHAT YOU GAVE US. >> GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE 14. [BACKGROUND] >> THAT'S FINE. I WAS JUST LOOKING AT ALL THESE. >> THIS IS WHERE IT TALKS ABOUT F, I THINK, IS IN ONE OF THESE SECTIONS. >> IF I CLARIFIED TO JUST SAY TO SWAP THE STREET RIGHT AWAY FOR EASEMENTS, WOULD THAT COVER SUFFICIENTLY? >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE APPLICANT UNDERSTOOD. I BELIEVE THERE ARE THREE SECTIONS THAT ARE WRITTEN IN HERE TO BE EASEMENTS AND STAFF IS IN SUPPORT OF ALL OF THEM BEING EASEMENTS. >> THAT'S BECAUSE IT BECOMES THE DEVELOPER'S RESPONSIBILITY INSTEAD OF TOWNS. I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER THESE ONE MORE TIME. BREN. >> I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING. I JUST WANT TO GET THIS ONE ISSUE OUT ON THE RECORD. IT'S PERFECTLY ACCEPTABLE IF YOU WANT TO DENY CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS BECAUSE YOU NEED TO SEE ADDITIONAL DETAIL. BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE DEVELOPER AT ALL. THE PERSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE LAND USE. I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE FRUSTRATION, BUT JUST FOR THE RECORD, I APPRECIATE THE NODDING THAT THE FINAL DECISION IS NOT PREDICATED ON THE REPUTATION OF THE DEVELOPER OR PROMISES MADE BY THE PRIOR DEVELOPER, WHO I BELIEVE IS THE SAME APPLICANT THIS TIME. >> IT'S PREDICATED ON JUST THE CERTAINTY AROUND WHAT'S IN THE PD TODAY. THEN, IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS, WE WANT TO HAVE CERTAINTY AND WHAT THAT MODIFICATION IS GOING TO PRODUCE? >> CORRECT. >> THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE APPLICATION. >> CORRECT. >> I'M JUST GOING TO GO OVER THESE FOUR ITEMS NOW AND STATE THEM AND THEN I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE IT WITH THOSE FOUR ITEMS AS STATED. DID ANYBODY WANT TO COVER ANYTHING BEFORE I >> I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE EXCLUDING THE 60 FEET VERSUS 30 FEET. >> WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS THAT EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE INCLUDED IS DENIED, EXPLICITLY THE FOUR THINGS THAT I'M GOING TO MENTION RIGHT NOW. EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD NOT BE APPROVED. IT WOULD BE DENIED. IS THAT ACCEPTABLE? YOU HAD FIVE EARLIER? THERE WERE TWO OF THEM THAT WERE RELATED TO CONVERTING STREETS FROM RIGHT AWAY TO EASEMENT. INSTEAD OF TRYING TO NAME THOSE OUT BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THE ROADS, I'M JUST GOING TO SAY CONVERTING THOSE INTERNAL STREETS SO THAT THAT WAY IT CAN BE ACCURATELY. IF THERE'S A MISTAKE, IT WON'T BE A PROBLEM. NUMBER 1, CONVERT STREET RIGHT OF WAY TO EASEMENTS. >> MAKING A MOTION. >> YES. I'M GOING TO GO OVER THESE FOUR THINGS AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A MOTION. REMOVE THE REQUIREMENT FOR STREET C TO CONNECT TO THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. REMOVE THE CONNECTION FOR STREET E TO THE WESTERN PROPERTY SHARED ACCESS EASEMENT, AND THEN CORRECT THE FIRE LANE SIZE TYPE-UP. I MOVE APPROVAL WITH ONLY THOSE FOUR ITEMS. >> SECOND. >> WAIT, THAT WASN'T A MOTION THAT WAS YOUR MOTION RAISED. >> MY MOTION IS TO MOVE APPROVAL WITH ONLY THE FOUR ITEMS AS DISCUSSED AND NOTHING ELSE. >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. >> TERESA, YOU CAN TAKE THE ROLE NOW. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL? >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR? >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> ITEM K2 PASSES FOR THOSE ITEMS. I'M GOING TO OPEN ITEMS 3, [Items K.3. - K.5.] 04, AND 5 AT THE SAME TIME. LEXIN IS GOING TO PRESENT, AND THIS IS ON THE MONTALCINO ESTATES PHASE 4 ONLY. [01:25:05] >> THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU, MAYOR FOR THAT. THIS IS A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW. THE LAND USE IS CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT, FLOODPLAIN, AND RURAL RESIDENTIAL, AND THE ZONING IS PD-198 CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT. HERE IS THE SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE IT'S JUST THIS AREA TO THE NORTH. THIS IS PHASE 3, WHICH HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED FOR THE SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN, AND THEN ONE MORE SECTION THERE. THERE ARE 18 RESIDENTIAL LOTS. THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST. THE FIRST IS FOR HOUSE PAD BENCHING. TYPICALLY, THE TOWN REQUIRES ALL LOTS TO BE BENCHED THAT MEANS YOU CREATE THE PAD SITE WHERE THE HOUSE IS GOING TO SIT ON THE LOT. THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING AN EXCEPTION TO THIS. THE TOWN STAFF TYPICALLY ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS EXCEPTION FOR LOTS OF ONE ACRE IN SIZE AND GREATER. ALL OF THESE LOTS ARE ONE ACRE IN SIZE OR GREATER. THESE ARE THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND BE REQUIRED IF COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE THE HOUSE PAD BENCHING EXCEPTION. HERE IS THE LOT-TO-LOT DRAINAGE EXCEPTION. THIS IS LIMITED TO JUST THESE TWO LOTS. THERE IS AN EXISTING CREEK THAT RUNS THROUGH THESE PROPERTIES, AND SO THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO DIRECT IT TO THE STREET, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO PUT IT IN ITS OWN LOT BECAUSE THEN YOU WOULD BE SEPARATING IT AND CREATING A LOT IN FRONT AND BEHIND IT. THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PUT IT INSIDE AN EASEMENT. IF THE COUNCIL WERE TO APPROVE THIS EXCEPTION, THIS IS THE LANGUAGE THAT STAFF WOULD RECOMMEND. THIS IS WHAT'S REQUIRED IN THE CONSTRUCTION DESIGN STANDARDS. IT SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE DEDICATED TO THE HOA WITHIN A DRAINAGE EASEMENT, AND THE SYSTEM MEETS THE MINIMUM PRIVATE STORM WATER SYSTEM STANDARDS CONTAINED IN PART B, SECTION 4 DESIGN CRITERIA MANUAL. >> WOULD THEY HAVE TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY OVER THE CREEK? HOW WOULD THEY ACCESS THAT? >>YES. YOU PUT THE DRIVEWAY OVER THE CREEK. THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT IT SOME WITH P AND D, BUT BASICALLY THEY WOULD BE BUILDING ON THE BACK SIDE OF THESE LOTS. LIKE I SAID, THERE'S THE CREEK. THERE'S ALSO THIS PRETTY LARGE EASEMENT HERE, AND SO YOU HAVE TO GET TO THE BACKS OF THE PROPERTIES TO DEVELOP THEM. LASTLY, THERE IS A TOPOGRAPHIC SLOPE EXCEPTION. THE DEVELOPER IS SEEKING AN EXCEPTION TO IMPACT PROTECTED SLOPES GREATER THAN EQUAL TO 5% AND LESS THAN 12%, AND THEN ALSO SLOPES GREATER THAN 12. BASED ON THE EPP, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 22.16 ACRES THAT HAVE FIVE TO 12% SLOPE. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL IMPACT APPROXIMATELY SEVEN ACRES OF THOSE AND THEN A TOTAL OF 17 ACRES THAT ARE GREATER THAN 12%, AND THE PROJECT WOULD IMPACT 1.88 ACRES OF THE GREATER THAN 12% SLOPE. THE GREATER THAN 12% THAT'S IMPACTED IS THESE RED PIECES THAT YOU CAN SEE ON THE EDGES THERE. THEN IT'S A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO SEE THE 5-12% THAT'S WITHIN THE LOTS THERE. THERE IS ALSO A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AS PART OF THIS, AS THE MAYOR MENTIONED. THIS WENT TO ECC. ECC RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE REMOVAL OF SEVEN SPECIMEN TREES AND DENIAL OF FOUR OF THOSE SPECIMEN TREES. THERE'S ALSO A PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDATION THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT. THE PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF CASH AND THE AMOUNT OF $22,680 BE ACCEPTED IN LIEU OF THE OTHERWISE REQUIRED PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THE AMOUNT OF $24,984. GOING TO THE TREE SURVEY, HERE IS A LARGER VIEW. THEN IT SHOWS YOU THESE ARE THE FOUR, I GUESS, THOSE ARE THE FOUR THAT ECC RECOMMENDED DENIAL OF. THEN WE CAN GO INTO CLOSE-UP VIEW. WE HAVE CLOSE-UP VIEWS OF THESE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, JAKE IS HERE TO ANSWER THEM. >> IN THE PACKET, THERE'S A TABLE THAT SAYS REMOVED. SOME OF THESE TREES SAY YES. WAS I MISREADING THAT? >> I'LL LET JAKE ANSWER. >> THE TABLE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE DRAWINGS. [01:30:05] >> ON THE TREE SURVEY? >> YEAH. MAYBE I'M MISREADING IT, BUT IT JUST SEEMED ODD. >> TREE SURVEY. [BACKGROUND] IF WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE, THEN ALL THESE HIGHLIGHTED WITH RED ARE REQUESTED FOR REMOVAL, BUT NOT CURRENTLY REMOVED AT THIS TIME. >> IT JUST SAID REMOVED, AND THEN YES REQUESTED REMOVAL. FAIR ENOUGH. I WAS THINKING THEY ALREADY WENT AHEAD AND REMOVED THEM. >> NO. >> THANK YOU. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. >> THAT'S REALLY THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THE TREES, THEN WE'LL GET JAKE BACK UP HERE, OR IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE EXCEPTIONS OR THE REST OF THE PROJECT, I'M HAPPY TO HELP. THE APPLICANT IS HERE DOES NOT HAVE A PRESENTATION, BUT IS HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS. >> DO YOU WANT THE APPLICANT TO COME UP? >> YEAH. >> THERE'S NO PRESENTATION. ONLY IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. YOU'RE GOOD? ANYBODY? >> [INAUDIBLE] >> WE CAN DO THAT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAVE ONE PERSON THAT WISHES TO SPEAK. YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO COME UP, CINDY CLARK. JUST RESTATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS IF YOU'D LIKE. >> I'M CINDY CLARK, AND MY ADDRESS DOES MATTER BECAUSE IT'S 8704 BALTUSROL DRIVE, AND WE ARE ON THE CUSP OF PHASE 3. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO REQUEST THAT MONTALCINO PHASE 4 BE DENIED UNTIL PHASE 3 HAS MET ALL THE OBLIGATIONS PUT FORTH BY TOWN CONCERNING FENCING ALONG THE BACK OF BALTUSROL DRIVE. WHEN PHASE 3 WAS DISCUSSED AND PASSED, IT WAS DECIDED THAT THE OWNERS AND DEVELOPER WOULD HAVE TO PUT UP A SIX FOOT WROUGHT IRON FENCE ALONG THE FENCE LINE BEHIND THE HOMES OF BALTUSROL DRIVE, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SMALL SECTION TO BE UNFENCED OVER THE CREEK SO THAT WILDLIFE CAN HAVE A TRAIL IN AND OUT. NOT ONLY HAVE THEY NOT DONE THE FENCE, THEY HAVE CAUSED PROBLEMS. THEY'VE HAD SURVEY PEOPLE IN OUR BACK YARDS WHEN WE'RE NOT HOME, STAKING THE FENCE LINE ON OUR SIDE WITHOUT PERMISSION. WE GOT HOME FROM A TRIP TO FIND THESE STAKES WERE IN OUR YARD. WE WERE SURPRISED THAT SOME FENCE WORKERS SHOWED UP IN OUR YARD WITHOUT ANYONE CONTACTING US IN ADVANCE AND BEGAN BUILDING A FENCE BEHIND OUR HOUSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE THE BARBED WIRE FENCE THAT'S BEEN IN OUR BACKYARD FENCE FOR MORE THAN 23 YEARS. IN PLACE, THEY WERE GOING TO LEAVE IT THERE AND PUT THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE BEHIND IT. BUT TOM SAID, WOULD YOU LIKE US TO CONTACT THE TOWN AND THEY SAID, NO, WE'LL TAKE IT DOWN. THEY TOOK IT DOWN, BUT THEN THEY JUST THREW IT OVER BEHIND THE FENCE ON THE LOTS BACK THERE AND MONTALCINO. AFTER THEY DID THAT, THEY PULLED OFF THE JOB WITH JUST TWO-THIRDS OF MY FENCE FINISHED AND LEFT OUR BACK YARD OPEN FOR TWO MONTHS. WE HAD TO CONTACT MCADAMS TO SEE WHO WAS IN CHARGE OF THIS PROJECT, AND GOT THE NAME OF LANCE PROCTOR WITH LENART DEVELOPMENT, AND HE WAS LESS THAN HELPFUL UNTIL WE PRESSED. HE GOT THE FENCE PEOPLE BACK OUT TO OUR YARD A WEEK LATER TO PARTIALLY FINISH BY PUTTING UP SECTIONS WITH TACK WELDS UNTIL THEY COULD COME BACK AGAIN. UPON FURTHER DISCOVERY, LOOKING AT THE FENCE, THEY HAVE INSTALLED IN CONCRETE TWO SECTIONS UPSIDE DOWN. THEY SAY THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE EASEMENT AND FENCE LINES AND THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO GET BACK THERE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO CARRY ALL THE FENCE PARTS AND CONCRETE UP THE EXTREME SLOPE ON THE BACK OF BALTUSROL ROAD, BUT NO ONE FROM LENART HAS CONTACTED OUR NEIGHBORS ABOUT ACCESS OR ISSUES. THEY ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE AND HAVE NOT ACTED TO COMPLETE THE REQUIRED FENCE THAT ACCORDING TO THEIR TIMETABLE, WHICH I HAVE, WAS SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED BY JULY OF 2025. THAT MEANS THEY SHOULD HAVE CONTACTED RESIDENTS AND HAD ALL THESE ISSUES IRONED OUT AND THE FENCE INSTALLED BY THEN. I HAVE THE TIMETABLE, IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SEE IT, AND THEY HAVE NOT SEEMED TO BE CONCERNED ENOUGH TO [01:35:03] CONTACT OUR HOA PRESIDENT TO GET THIS ISSUE RESOLVED. THANKS, GUYS. >> THANK YOU, MS. CLARK. THAT'S THE ONLY PUBLIC COMMENT FORM I HAVE. DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME BEFORE I CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT? NO ONE WISHES TO SPEAK. I'M GOING TO CLOSE PUBLIC HEARING. ARE YOU ALL READY FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME FORWARD? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. >> GOOD AFTERNOON. DARREN ANDREWS WITH MCADAMS, 3917 PITTSBURGH TRAIL, FLOWER MOUND. >> DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? JUST THE COMMENT. I KNOW MS. CLARK MENTIONED HER DEVELOPMENT, THAT WAS PHASE 3. I THINK SHE JUST HAS CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT SHE MADE? >> IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE. I UNDERSTAND. THEY DID CONTACT ME, AND I TRIED TO CONTACT THE CONTRACTOR MYSELF. I GOT ANOTHER CALL BACK SAYING THAT THEY HADN'T HAD ANY RESPONSE AND SO THAT I GAVE THEM DIRECT CONTACT FOR THEM TO CONTACT PLANS. THEN I THINK THEY'VE BEEN IN CONTACT, BUT OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S STILL SOME THINGS THAT ARE NOT BEING DONE. I'LL REACH OUT TO THEM AGAIN. UNFORTUNATELY, AS ENGINEER, I DON'T REALLY HAVE THE CONTROL OVER THAT. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION AND THAT WE CAN TRY TO PUSH TO TRY TO HELP TO GET THAT DONE. >> ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE CONTRACTOR DID NOT HAVE CONTACT INFORMATION FOR THE NEIGHBORS? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> WE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE HOA, SO I KNOW IF THEY HAVE DO HAVE THAT. YES. SO NO. NO. THEY HAVE HAD CONTACT. THEY DO HAVE A POINT OF CONTACT. IN REGARDS TO WHETHER THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO CONTACT THE HOA, I'M NOT REALLY PRIVY TO THAT INFORMATION IF THEY CONTACT THE HOA OR THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE CONTACTING INDIVIDUALS BUT YES, WE HAVE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE HOA GOING THROUGH, AND I THINK YOU KNOW, THERE IS A SCHEDULE. SO WHY THAT'S NOT BEING MADE? I DON'T KNOW. >> THE ABILITY TO EXECUTE THE VISION, WHAT WE SEE ON HERE, IS OBVIOUSLY, AS WE CONSIDER PHASE 4, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PHASE 3 IS HAPPENING THE WAY IT WAS PRESENTED TO US BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A PRETTY LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND WE WERE GIVEN A LOT OF REASSURANCES THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY PROBLEMS. I WENT OUT THERE AND JUST TOOK A LOOK AROUND TO SEE HOW EVERYTHING WAS COMING AND A LOT OF PROGRESS, OBVIOUSLY. WHEN YOU GET TO THIS INTERSECTION THAT'S RIGHT HERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SCREEN, THIS ROUNDABOUT, THAT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU INTO PHASE 4. THERE'S A BIG RETAINING WALL ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, WHICH WOULD BE THE SOUTH SIDE. CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT WHERE THE LOT LINE IS IN REFERENCE TO THAT RETAINING WALL? HOW FAR BACK FROM THE PROPERTY LINE IS THAT RETAINING WALL? >> THE RETAINING WALL I BELIEVE IT SITS BACK ABOUT 16-18 FEET FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD. THEN YOU HAVE YOUR LOT LINE, YOUR BUILD LINE, WHICH IS EVEN FURTHER BACK HERE. THESE HOMES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT HERE ARE GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING. >> I GOT THAT SENSE. >> THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE VERY CUSTOM HOMES BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY THAT COME FROM THAT RAILWAY BACK UP THE TOUR. >> AS I'M STANDING LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROAD, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A BAR DITCH. IS THAT GOING TO BE WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE STARTS AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE [OVERLAPPING] >> ROAD WITH 18-FOOT DRAINAGE UTILITY EASEMENT. RIGHT BEHIND THAT IS WHERE THE RETAINING WALL WOULD START. THEN YOU HAVE THE BUILDING SETBACK. >> HOW ARE THEY GOING TO GET UP TO THE PROPERTY? IS THE DRIVEWAY GOING TO GO UP AND OVER THE RETAINING WALL? >> AGAIN, THE RETAINING WALL WILL HAVE TO BE MODIFIED TO ACCEPT THE DRIVEWAY. BUT UNTIL THEN UNTIL THE LOTS ARE SOLD UNTIL THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD THE TYPE OF HOUSE, THEY'RE GOING TO BUILD, WE HAD TO HAVE A RETAINING WALL JUST TO BE ABLE TO [OVERLAPPING] >> MS. CLARK IS SITTING HERE AND SHE'S LOOKING AT THIS LOT OUT OF HER BACK FENCE AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT TILL THEY BUILD THE ROAD, THE DITCHES, EVERYTHING, AND THEN AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, THEN THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOME BUYER. [OVERLAPPING] >> THEY DON'T HAVE A BUYER YET. >> THEN THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN AND DESIGN ALL THIS. SHE'S GOING TO HAVE A PRETTY LONG WAIT BEFORE THE FUTURE NEIGHBOR SHOWS UP AND STARTS GOING TO WORK. >> YES. >> COULD YOU HAVE A SENSE OF THE TIMELINE ON ANY OF THAT? >> NO, I REALLY DON'T KNOW. I DON'T SEE IT WITHIN A YEAR. [OVERLAPPING]. >> WE'LL GIVE YOU A COUPLE YEARS MAYBE, SO WE COULD HAVE A DIFFERENT COUNCIL LEVEL HERE. >> BUT CAN WE DO SOMETHING TO GET THE FENCE DONE? WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO PUT SOME PRESSURE ON YOU GUYS BECAUSE WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT PHASE 3, [01:40:02] WE HAD A LENGTHY CONVERSATION ABOUT THESE FENCES AND THEY PROMISED TO PUT FENCES IN ON CERTAIN SPECIFIC NAME LOTS. I DON'T EVEN THINK THE LOT NUMBERS ARE THE SAME ANYMORE. BUT HERE THAT STILL HASN'T HAPPENED, GIVES ME A LOT OF RESERVATIONS ABOUT APPROVING EVEN ANOTHER PHASE WHEN THE EXECUTION ON THE PREVIOUS ONE ISN'T DONE. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT. THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I'D HAVE TO CALL AND FIND OUT. >> IS THERE ANOTHER LANAR REPRESENTATIVE WHO NEEDS TO COME IN AND ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS? I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE OUTSIDE OF YOUR AREA OF EXPERTISE HERE AND I'D HATE TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT YOU'RE THE ONLY GUY HERE. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION. I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE FROM LANAR TO ANSWER THAT. >> WE'VE GOT A LOT OF INCOMPLETE ANSWERS THEN WE DON'T HAVE. >> I WANTED TO PROVIDE ONE PIECE OF INFORMATION FOR CLARIFICATION. WHILE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT MIGHT BE UNTIL SOMEONE ACTUALLY WANTS TO BUY THIS LOT AND THEN THEY WOULD DEVELOP IT AND GRADE IT AND ALL THAT. THE FENCING WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE PUT INSTALLED OR INSTALLED BEFORE THE DEV PERMIT IS CLOSED OUT FOR PHASE 3. THE PHASE 3 DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THAT'S THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE ENGINEERING ASPECTS. THAT WILL INCLUDE ALL OF THE ROADS AND THE BAR DITCHES THAT PIECE THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE. WE ALWAYS DO THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. THAT'S A SEPARATE PIECE. THAT CLOSES OUT AND LIKE I SAID, NORMALLY, IT MIGHT INCLUDE THE GRADING OF THE LOTS TOO, SO THEY'RE ALL SET READY TO GO IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THE GRADING IS COMING LATER. IT COULD BE YEARS BEFORE THAT PROPERTY ACTUALLY DEVELOPS, BUT THAT DEVELOPMENT PERMIT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE PIECE WOULD BE COMPLETED BEFORE THAT. THE FENCING THAT'S ADJACENT TO THOSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES IN TO 18 WOULD HAVE TO BE PUT IN IN ORDER FOR THE DEVELOPMENT PERMIT TO BE CLOSED. >> BUT IT SEEMED THAT SOME OF THE FENCES WERE ALREADY TAKEN DOWN BEFORE ANYTHING WAS PUT BACK IN ITS PLACE. THERE'S A BIGGER GAP THERE THEN THAT WAITING UNTIL PHASE 3 IS FINISHED, ESSENTIALLY. >> I DO KNOW THAT THERE IS SOME ISSUES FROM WHEN I WAS TALKING EARLIER WHEN I CALLED, THERE IS SOME ISSUES BECAUSE APPARENTLY THERE ARE SOME RETAINING WALLS ON WHERE THE ACTUAL PROPERTY LINE IS THAT THERE IS A PROPERTY LINE THAT'S OVER THE PROPERTY LINE AND THEY'RE TRYING TO GET THAT WORKED OUT. WHETHER THAT IS COMING INTO PLAY, I KNOW IF YOU'RE TAKING DOWN FENCES AND IT'S LEFT DOWN, THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY. BUT THERE IS SOME THINGS THAT ARE TRYING TO BE RESOLVED IN THAT AREA. >> RON, DID YOU HAVE A COMMENT? >> I WAS JUST GOING TO WEIGH IN. I THINK IT'S CERTAINLY FINE TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE SHORTCOMINGS OF PHASE 3 AND TRY TO BROKER SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE SOLUTION. I JUST WANT TO CAUTION THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BASE YOUR DECISION ON PHASE 4 ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE PERFORMANCE ISSUES UNDER PHASE 3 OR WHETHER THE DEVELOPER REALLY CAME THROUGH. >> YEAH. I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT THE ENGINEER IS THE GUY WHO CAN ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. DO WE NEED TO TABLE IT AND HAVE THE LANAR REPRESENTATIVE SHOW UP WHO CAN EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO. >> I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH TABLING IT. I WOULD JUST CAUTION AGAINST DENYING. >> NO. I JUST THINK THERE'S A LOT OF INCOMPLETE INFORMATION. >> SURE [OVERLAPPING]. >> THERE'S QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN'T ANSWER. I MEAN, YOU UNDERSTAND. >> I'M FEELING THE SAME WAY. LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT THE ISSUES ARE WITH PHASE 3. GET THE QUESTION. I DON'T HAVE ANY INTENT TO DENY AT ALL. WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT TREES OR SOMETHING, BUT I JUST WANT TO HAVE THE GUY WHO WAS HERE FOR PHASE 3 WHO WAS HELPING US UNDERSTAND HOW THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO GO AND HOW THEY WERE GOING TO MAKE GOOD WITH THE NEIGHBORS. UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE TONIGHT. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO ASK YOU TO COMMIT TO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB WITH ALL THE PLANS. THEY LOOK FINE. I CAN IMAGINE THAT WAS NOT AN EASY ONE. >> I DO WANT TO MENTION ONE THING. I CAN STILL TALK IN REGARDS TO THE SLOPE EXCEPTIONS. THE SLOPE EXCEPTIONS THAT, HOW DO I GO BACK? THERE WAS THE SLOPE RIGHT THERE. WE LIST THESE ACRES. THESE ARE REALLY MAXIMUM ACRES. THESE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE GREATER THAN 12%. I DON'T REALLY SEE ANYBODY BUILDING ON THAT. EACH ONE OF THESE LOTS HAS PLENTY OF VERY FLAT LAND THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE [INAUDIBLE]. WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IT, SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO LIST WHAT THE MAXIMUM COULD BE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> I THINK FROM PLANNING AND ZONING, DIDN'T YOU SAY IT'S JUST 1.8 ACRES. >> OVER 12 PER LOT. THAT'S ALL OF THESE RED AREAS. >> I DON'T THINK THAT WAS THE MAJOR ISSUE. >> NO, I UNDERSTAND. I JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT THAT THAT'S. >> YOU MENTIONED AT PNC, I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOMETHING HAPPENED AT THE PNC MEETING WHERE NONE OF THE SHARED CONTENT WAS BEING DISPLAYED. I THINK AT ONE POINT THEY JUST HAD SOME GUY IN [01:45:02] THE CROWD WHO WAS LIKE ON CAMERA FOR A WHILE. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO LOTS IN THE UPPER LEFT CORNER AND THEY'RE INTERESTING AND HOW THOSE ARE GOING TO PLAY OUT? >> THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, THIS IS A REALLY NICE OPEN FLAT AREA. THAT WAS A GAS WELL SITE THAT WAS NEVER DRILLED. THEY WERE GOING TO PUT A GAS WELL THERE, BUT THEY NEVER DRILLED ON, AND THEN OF COURSE, EVERYTHING QUIT. YOU HAVE THIS REALLY NICE FLAT AREA HERE, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR CUL DE SAC. IN ORDER TO GET TO THOSE SITES, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THESE ELONGATED LOTS. THERE IS A NATURAL DRAINAGE CREEK THAT RUNS BASICALLY THROUGH THESE LOTS WHERE THE BLUE IS, AND THEN IT JOINS DOWN INTO THE BIGGER CREEK. WE HAVE TO HAVE AN EASEMENT AND THIS IS WHERE WE'RE HAVING A LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE. THIS ALSO, IF YOU NOTICE, THIS IS A 50 FOOT DRAINAGE EASEMENT. THAT IS INSIDE OF A 300 FOOT OVERHEAD ELECTRICAL EASEMENT, AND THEN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND HAS THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOU CAN'T BUILD WITHIN 100 FOOT OF THAT 300 FOOT. BASICALLY, THERE'S A 500 FOOT WIDE SWATH THAT RUNS THROUGH THIS CORNER. THIS LINE RIGHT HERE IS BASICALLY THE WESTERN LIMIT OF 100 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE TOWN. THIS IS THE BUILDABLE LOT THAT YOU SEE RIGHT HERE. IN ORDER TO GET BACK HERE, THERE WILL BE A ROAD. LET ME GO BACK TO THE THE SLOPE. RIGHT IN THIS AREA, THERE WILL PROBABLY BE A DRIVEWAY THAT'LL GO RIGHT THROUGH HERE WITH SOME NORMAL CULVERTS OR A BOX CULVERT TO GET THROUGH IT, THAT WORKS HIS WAY BACK. THAT 300 FOOT REALLY YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY STRUCTURES IN IT. IT'LL PROBABLY JUST BE NATURAL. MAYBE HORSES, MAYBE SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE YOU COULD HAVE SMALL ANIMALS OR SOMETHING. >> SO 500 FOOT DRIVEWAY, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY. >> ROUGHLY, YES. >> NO ISSUES WITH THE FIRE TRUCKS GETTING BACK THERE IF THERE'S A GRASS FIRE OR SOMETHING? >> NO. THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO HAVE THIS CUL DE SAC, AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD THIS FROM THE FIRE. >> CHIEF HENLEY TO COME UP HERE FOR THAT. >> THOSE ARE THE IRON MAN ELECTRICAL LINES THAT ARE GOING THROUGH THERE. THOSE ARE LIKE THOSE GIANT IRON MAN. >> NO PROBLEM ROLLING THE FIRE ENGINE BACK 500 FOOT. GOOD. >> CHIEF HENLEY, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH THAT? HE'S GIVEN THUMBS UP. THANK YOU FOR COMING UP HERE. WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK ON THIS. COUNCIL, DO YOU WISH TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE? IF I THINK EVERYBODY WAS NODDING THEIR HEAD, YES. ANYONE WANT TO MAKE THAT MOTION? >> WHEN WE TABLE IT, THEN WE SHOULD TABLE IT TO A DATE CERTAIN. NEXT MEETING, DO YOU WANT TO TABLE IT, OR YOUR DISCRETION IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD PREFER, LEXEN? DO WE TABLE IT UNTIL THE APPLICANT IS READY TO REPRESENT? >> ARE WE ON THAT AGENDA? >> IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER TO ME. WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTICE FOR THIS. WHATEVER COUNCIL AND THE APPLICANT PROPOSE. >> WE'LL JUST TABLE IT UNTIL THE APPLICANT REACHES OUT TO STAFF AND IS READY TO COME BACK NEXT MEETING. THAT NEXT MEETING IS DECEMBER 1ST. I'LL TABLE IT UNTIL DECEMBER 1ST. LET'S SEE HERE, K5 >> K3, 4, AND 5. >> CAN I DO THEM ALL AT ONCE? FOR ITEMS K3, 4, AND 5, I MOVE THAT WE TABLE UNTIL THE DECEMBER 1ST MEETING. >> SECOND. WE'LL TAKE ANOTHER ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> ITEMS K3, 4, AND 5 IS TABLED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. NOW WE HAVE LEXEN IS GOING TO PRESENT AGAIN ON ITEM K6, [K.6. Z25-0006 - Town Initiated Rezoning [IH to A] - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance amending the zoning (Z25-0006 – Town Initiated Rezoning [IH to A]) from Interim Holding (IH) uses to Agricultural (A) uses. The properties are located throughout the Town. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 0 at its November 10, 2025, meeting.)] AND BRIAN IS GOING TO ABSTAIN FROM THIS. HE'S GOING TO RECUSE HIMSELF, HE'S LEFT. THIS IS THE TOWN INITIATED RE-ZONING FROM INTERIM HOLDING TO AG. >> YES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A TOWN PROPOSED RE-ZONING. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTIES, SO YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE OUTLINED IN THIS DARKER RED HATCHED COLOR. BASICALLY, THIS WAS ALL THE PROPERTY WITHIN TOWN THAT IS CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS INTERIM HOLDING THAT IS EITHER UNDEVELOPED OR COULD BE FURTHER DEVELOPED OR BENEFIT FROM PLATTING IN SOME WAY. [01:50:06] WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THERE'S A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ARE ALREADY ESTABLISHED IN INTERIM HOLDING, SO WE DIDN'T PULL THOSE INTO THAT. THAT WOULD TAKE ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION. BUT THIS IS ALL THE PROPERTY OTHERWISE IN TOWN CURRENTLY DESIGNATED AS INTERIM HOLDING. THE THOUGHT IS JUST THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THESE PROPERTIES FINAL ZONING DESIGNATION, NOT LEAVE THEM IN THIS INTERIM STATUS. THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS, AS I SAID, GOING FROM INTERIM HOLDING TO AG, BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO PLAT YOUR PROPERTY. WITH INTERIM HOLDING, THAT ZONING DESIGNATION, IT SAYS IT ALLOWS THE SAME USES AS AGRICULTURAL ZONING, BUT IT DOESN'T ALLOW YOU TO SUBDIVIDE THE PROPERTY OR ALTER IT IN ANY WAY. BECAUSE THE THOUGHT IS, WELL, YOU SHOULD GO AHEAD AND GET YOUR FINAL ZONING IN PLACE BEFORE WE DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO BE DEVELOPING PROPERTY UNDER THIS INTERIM HOLDING STATUS. BASICALLY, THE INTERIM HOLDING COMES IN WHENEVER THE TOWN ANNEXES LAND INTO THE TOWN. THAT WAS WHAT WE WOULD DO IS JUST PUT THAT DESIGNATION ON IT, ASSUMING THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER WOULD TAKE THAT FORWARD AND THEY WERE READY TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. BUT WE REALIZED THERE WAS A NUMBER OF ACRES OF TOWN THAT STILL HAD THIS DESIGNATION AND WE WANTED TO GET THAT FINAL ZONING IN PLACE FOR THEM A PERMANENT ZONING AND ALSO GIVE SOMEBODY THE ABILITY TO JUST PLAT THEIR PROPERTY IF THEY'RE NOT REALLY LOOKING TO ANY BIG DEVELOPMENT, BUT MAYBE JUST WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE OUT THERE OR SOMETHING AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL. IF COUNCIL WANTS TO ZOOM IN ON ANY OF THESE PROPERTIES, I KNOW WE NORMALLY DO A FURTHER AWAY AND CLOSE UP VIEW, BUT IT WAS SUCH A BIG AREA. I WASN'T REALLY POSSIBLE, BUT I CAN GO TO OUR GIS MAP. THE LAND USE FOR THESE PROPERTIES CURRENTLY IS MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL. THAT'S RIGHT THERE, RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THAT'S THESE THREE PIECES. OFFICE MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT. THAT'S UP THERE. MIXED USE HERE, A STATE WITHIN THE PRAIRIE VISTA, FLOODPLAIN WITHIN THE PRAIRIE VISTA, CANYON FALLS, OPEN SPACE WITHIN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT. FLOODPLAIN WITHIN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT AND CAMPUS COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT. THIS IS MOSTLY HERE JUST TO CLARIFY THAT THE TOWN IS NOT CHANGING ANY OF THE UNDERLYING LAND USES BY MAKING THIS CHANGE TO THE ZONING. IT'S NOT MEANT TO INDICATE ANY PREFERENCE FOR WHAT THAT THAT FUTURE LAND USE SHOULD BE CHANGED ANYTHING. IT'S NOT INTENDED TO INDICATE AN OPINION THE TOWN HAS ON THE CORRECT ZONING OF THESE PROPERTIES. IT'S JUST TO HAVE AS LITTLE IMPACT AS POSSIBLE AND ONLY TO BENEFIT THE PROPERTY OWNERS. AGAIN, HERE'S THE VICINITY MAP SHOWING THE ZONING. IT'S ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN RED YET AGAIN. HERE'S THE OFFICIAL ZONING EXHIBIT. WE TOOK THE TRACKS OF LAND AS IT'S IDENTIFIED FROM THE COUNTY AND ARE JUST IDENTIFYING THOSE WITHIN THE PROPOSED ZONING AMENDMENT TO SAY THOSE ARE GOING FROM INTERIM HOLDING TO AG. TRY TO TAKE SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE. HERE WE ARE LOOKING SOUTH AT THIS PROPERTY. NEXT, THERE'S ACTUALLY NO WAY TO ACCESS THIS PROPERTY WITHOUT TRESPASSING, SO THAT'S JUST A SCREENSHOT OF THAT SLIVER OF LAND THERE. HERE WE ARE AT THIS ONE, THIS ONE. THIS IS THIS PROPERTY BY 377 AND THE RAILROAD TRACKS. THIS IS THE PROPERTY UP BY THAT CAMPUS COMMERCIAL DESIGNATION. THIS IS LOOKING FROM WHEN THE BRIDGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION, THAT DENTON CREEK BRIDGE. IT'S JUST LOOKING OUT AS FAR AS WE CAN. HERE WE ARE, THIS IS ON HAYNES ROAD. THAT'S COVERING THIS WHOLE AREA, BUT CLEARLY DIDN'T HAVE SHOTS OF ALL THAT ACREAGE. AGAIN, HERE'S THAT ZONING DISTRICTS AMENDED MAP. THERE'S THE CAPTION. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? >> NO. >> THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, SO I KEEP GOING IN AND OUT OF THIS MICROPHONE. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. I DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS AT THIS TIME. I'M OFFERING ANYONE TO SPEAK NOW DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING. AGAIN, NO TAKERS. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. COUNCIL, IF THERE'S NO MORE DELIBERATION, IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION. >> A MOTION TO APPROVE CASE 6 AS PRESENTED. >> SECOND. WE CAN TAKE THE ROLE. COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. [01:55:01] >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. AYE. >> ITEM K6 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF BRIAN WHO HAD TO ABSTAIN. NOW, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM L. BRIAN WALTENBURG, [L.1. Value of Municipal Services: Public Works (Streets & Traffic)] THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS WILL PRESENT ON THE VALUE OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES FROM FOR PUBLIC WORKS. >> GOOD EVENING. >> IT'S GREAT TO SEE EVERYONE AGAIN. THIS TIME, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS, STREETS AND TRAFFIC GROUP. I HAVE MANNY PALACIOS AND MATT HOTELLING HERE WITH THE SPECIFIC DIVISIONS, IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS BEYOND WHAT I'M COMFORTABLE ANSWERING. WE'LL GET THEM INVOLVED. AGAIN, I WANT TO JUST GO OVER THE MISSION OF PUBLIC WORKS TO PROVIDE QUALITY LIFE TO THE CITIZENS OF THE TOWN. MANAGE OUR CURRENT RESOURCES, DEDICATED WATER UTILITIES, MAINTENANCE OF STREETS AND DRAINAGE, ALWAYS PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE. THESE ARE THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT METRICS. I PUT SOME JUST GENERAL METRICS ON HERE ON AMOUNT OF CONCRETE REPAIR AS WE DID LAST YEAR. STREET SIGNS REPLACED. YOU CAN SEE THE 89% IS OUR OVERALL SYSTEM WIDE AVERAGE FOR 89% OF THE STREETS HAVE A LEVEL OF SERVICE C OR BETTER. ALSO, RIGHT NOW, ONE OF THE GOALS FOR THE COUNCIL WAS GETTING THE INTERSECTIONS INSTALLED WITH THE DATA ANALYTIC CAMERAS, AND THAT IS 100% COMPLETE. WE'VE BEEN GETTING SOME GOOD INFORMATION FROM THEM. WE'LL SHARE A LITTLE BIT OF THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. ALSO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT PUBLIC WORKS ACCREDITATION. THE PROGRAM RECOGNIZES PUBLIC WORKS AGENCIES THAT GO BEYOND THE STANDARD CALL OF SERVICE TO THE CITIZENS. I WILL SAY THAT THE TOWN WAS 107TH IN THE NATION. I THINK RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY FIRST GOT ACCREDITED. RIGHT NOW THERE'S ABOUT 250 IN THE NATION, YOU GOT TO THINK THERE'S ABOUT 20,000 PUBLIC WORKS AGENCIES OUT THERE. I SAY THAT WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB WHEN WE GOT REACCREDITED, I WANT TO SAY THREE OR FOUR OF OUR POLICIES WERE TAKEN AND THEY ARE PUTTING THOSE POLICIES INTO THEIR RECOMMENDED BOOK FOR OTHER PUBLIC WORKS AGENCIES TO FOLLOW. IT JUST SHOWS THE LEVEL OF COMMITMENT WE HAVE TO MAINTAINING A GOOD DEPARTMENT. I DID WANT TO SHOW, WE DID TAKE THE NCS, THE NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY, FLOWER MOUND, AND I WANTED TO PROVIDE EXACTLY WHAT THEY PUT IN HERE, SO I TOOK A SNIPPET OF WHAT IT WAS FOR MOBILITY AND STREET CLEANING AND REPAIR. YOU CAN SEE GENERALLY ALL OF OUR METRICS ARE HIGHER OR SIMILAR TO THE NATIONAL AVERAGE. I'LL SAY SOMETIMES SIGNAL TIMING YOU SET LIGHT, YOU NOTICE IT, IT'S DIFFICULT. BUT I WILL SAY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE 60-65% OVER THE LAST SIX YEARS IN 2014, I BELIEVE WHEN ONE OF OUR SURVEYS WAS DONE, THAT WAS LIKE 25%, 28%, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I WILL SAY GENERALLY, WE'RE ON DEFINITELY AN UPWARD TRAJECTORY OF ALL OF OUR METRICS, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOOK AT EACH ONE OF THESE METRICS TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THEM AS WE MOVE FORWARD. STRATEGIC GOALS THIS YEAR. THE GOAL 3 IS INFRASTRUCTURE. BOTH OF THESE TRAFFICS AND STREETS HIT THOSE ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THAT GOAL. WE ARE LOOKING FOR A ROBUST AND WELL MAINTAINED INFRASTRUCTURE. IT'S ESSENTIAL TO SUPPORT TOWN GROWTH, PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND ENSURE THE OVERALL WELL BEING OF THE COMMUNITY. LIKE I SAID, TRAFFIC AND STREETS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THAT. GOOD STREET NETWORK, OBVIOUSLY IS GOOD FOR THE RESIDENTS, BUT IT'S ALSO GOOD FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES BEING ABLE TO ACCESS HOMES. THIS IS OUR ORGANIZATIONAL CHART. WE HAVE ON THE LEFT SIDE, YOU HAVE THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR MANNY, HE'S OVER OUR STREET SERVICES DEPARTMENT. HE'S ALSO OVER SOME OF THE OTHER ONES ON THE LEFT THAT WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT ON A PREVIOUS MEETING. ON THE RIGHT, WE GOT OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS TRANSPORTATION, MATT HOTELLING, HE'S OVER THE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AND OUR SIGNS MARKINGS AND SIGNALS DEPARTMENTS. FIRST, WE'LL DUMP INTO THE STREET SERVICES DEPARTMENT. THESE ARE ACCOMPLISHMENTS FROM LAST YEAR, SO WE FINISHED THE FLOWER MOUND PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT, TIMBER CREEK ROAD PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT. WE COMPLETED OVER 159 WORK ORDERS OR 160 WORK ORDERS. ABOUT 3,500 SQUARE YARDS OF CONCRETE REPAIRS WERE COMPLETED, 62,000 LINEAR FEET OF JOINT CEILING, A LOT OF THESE THINGS ARE PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE THAT HELPS PROLONG THE LIFE OF THE NETWORK. BY DOING ALL OF THESE, THESE ARE ALL PROACTIVE ITEMS. THEN WE ALSO LOOKED AT 28,000 SQUARE YARDS OF SLURRY SEAL OVER ASPHALT PAYMENTS. [02:00:04] WHILE WE ALSO DO A LOT OF PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FOR CONCRETE PAYMENT, WE CAN DO A LOT MORE METHODS FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE FOR ASPHALT. WE ALSO LOOK AT THOSE. THEN OUR GOALS FOR NEXT YEAR IS CONTINUING TO PRESERVE AND EXTENDING THE LIFE OF OUR NETWORK, AGAIN, WITH PANEL REPLACEMENTS, JOINT CEILING PROGRAM, AND IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM. THEN WE ALSO ARE LOOKING TO IMPROVE CUSTOMER SERVICE. WE COULD ALWAYS IMPROVE OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE AND STRENGTHEN OUR DEVELOPMENT SAFETY PROGRAMS AS WELL AS PUBLIC COMMUNICATION. >> FRANK, CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT IMPROVING CUSTOMER SERVICES OR SOMETHING. MOSTLY, WE'RE INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE SAYING THAT THEY'RE HAVING TROUBLE WITH THE STREET OR A LIGHT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. HOW DO WE INTEND TO ACCOMPLISH? >> I THINK IT'S A PUBLIC WORKS THING A WHOLE. I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR WAYS WE CAN IMPROVE. YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO GET RESIDENTS THAT ARE FRUSTRATED WITH SOMETHING, AND ALSO THE WAY YOU CAN RESPOND TO THAT FRUSTRATION, TAKING OWNERSHIP OF THE PROBLEM IMMEDIATELY AND NOT PASSING THAT PERSON AROUND FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE DOING A BAD JOB, BUT I THINK YOU CAN ALWAYS IMPROVE. IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT AND I LIKE TO ALWAYS TRY TO IMPROVE. >> YEAH. NO, I AGREE. THAT'S A GOOD GOAL TO HAVE ON THERE. IT'S REALLY GOOD. >> STREET SERVICES, 13 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, OUR OPERATING BUDGET IS JUST OVER $4 MILLION. THIS IS FROM OUR QUARTER CENT SALES TAX. THIS IS THE STREET MAINTENANCE SALES TAX. RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYMENT MAINTENANCE LIKE WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, PAYMENT REPAIRS, PANEL REPLACEMENTS, CONCRETE FOAM JACKING, WHEN WE CAN DO THAT, TWO PANELS ARE LIKE THIS, WE CAN MAKE THEM EVEN WITHOUT HAVING TO REPLACE EVERYTHING. ASPHALT REPAIRS AND REHABILITATION AS WELL AS POTHOLE REPAIRS. THEN PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. JOINT AND CRACK SEALING, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING MORE OF, WE DID MORRIS, WE DID JURRO, FLOWER MOUND ROAD, THE SECTION THAT WE JUST REPAIRED ALL THE WAY TO QUAIL RUN IS, I THINK NEXT ON THE LIST. WE'RE LOOKING AT ROADS THAT ARE IN A GOOD CONDITION AND WE WANT TO PRESERVE IN GOOD CONDITION, PREVENT WATER FROM GETTING INTO THE SUBGRADE. THAT'S WHAT THAT DOES. THEN SLURRY SEAL ON ASPHALT ROADS. SIMILAR THING. YOU JUST WANT TO PREVENT THAT WATER INTRUSION. WE ALSO DO SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE, SNOW AND ICE REMOVAL, STORM DEBRIS REMOVAL, AND ALSO EMERGENCY RESPONSE. WE DO COORDINATE WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT AND FIRE DEPARTMENT AND ASSIST THEM AS NEEDED AS WELL AS SETTING UP TRAFFIC CONTROL. THEN WE'RE ALSO A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM THROUGH THE COG. THE WHOLE DEPARTMENT IS, BUT I WOULD SAY STREETS HAS A LOT OF THE LARGER EQUIPMENT THAT SOMETIMES IS NECESSARY FOR THOSE TYPE OF EVENTS. DIVISION, WE GOT OUR STREET NETWORK HERE. THIS IS A OVERVIEW OF THE SCORES ASSESSMENT THAT WAS DONE IN 2022. OUR CURRENT ONE WE'LL DO ANOTHER ONE THIS YEAR. WE HAVE THAT SCHEDULED FOR LATER THIS YEAR. YOU CAN SEE THE 2022 PCI SCORES OF 77 A DROP FROM THE 81 IN 2017, BUT THE NATIONAL AVERAGE IS 65. I ALSO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS, WE'VE ADDED ABOUT LOWER EIGHT MILES OF LANE MILES. EVERY TIME YOU'RE ADDING MILES, IT'S JUST MORE PAVEMENT IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU'LL NEED TO BE MAINTAINING. YOU CAN SEE GREEN IS GOOD, RED IS BAD. WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RED, REMEMBER, THIS IS FROM 2022, SO A LOT OF THESE RED AREAS HAVE EITHER BEEN ADDRESSED OR WILL BE ADDRESSED WAITING ON, FOR INSTANCE, YOU CAN SEE OFF HIGH ROAD THERE, THAT'S THE WATERLINE PROJECT THEY'RE DOING RIGHT NOW. AS SOON AS THAT WATER LINE PROJECT IS DONE, THAT ROAD IS SCHEDULED TO BE REDONE. WE ALWAYS TRY TO SCHEDULE PROJECTS LIKE THAT, SO WE'RE NOT REDOING WORK WE'VE ALREADY DONE. THIS IS OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM, OUR WORK ORDER COUNT, I GUESS, AND I WANT TO POINT OUT ON THE LEFT, DO YOU SEE THE LARGER GRAPH, THERE'S 2020, 21, 22. WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE OUR WORK ORDER SYSTEM. WE'RE GOING THROUGH A PROCESS RIGHT NOW OF CITY WORKS. THEY PROVIDED SOME IMPLEMENTATION RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE'RE GOING TO IMPLEMENT SOON. BUT IN 2023, WE STARTED SEPARATING SOME OF OUR DIVISIONS, TRYING TO BE MORE CLEAR ON WHAT THE WORK ORDERS ACTUALLY WERE. THOSE FIRST THREE YEARS ON THIS GRAPH, THERE'S SOMETIMES A MIX BETWEEN OUR RIGHT AWAY GROUP AND OUR STREET GROUP SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE SOME OF THE WORK ORDERS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. IN 2023 AND 2024 IS WHERE WE'RE AT. IN 2025, WE STARTED DOING SOME BIGGER REPLACEMENTS. YOU RECALL, WE'VE DONE FLOWER MOUND ROAD AND TIMBER CREEK ROAD. WHILE THAT THOSE ARE MUCH LARGER PROJECTS, THE WORK ORDER IS STILL ONE WORK ORDER. [02:05:02] IT JUST TAKES LONGER TO GET THOSE WORK ORDERS COMPLETE. WE'RE LOOKING AT A HOLISTIC, GO TO A ROAD, YOU DON'T JUST REPLACE THAT ONE PANEL. YOU REPLACE THE PANEL, BUT YOU ALSO LOOK AROUND THAT PANEL TO SEE WHAT ELSE NEEDS TO BE DONE. YOU CAN SEE IN THE SIDEWALK REPAIRS AND THE CONCRETE PAVEMENT REPAIRS, YOU CAN SEE HOW THE WORK ORDERS DEFINITELY JUMPED BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE'RE STARTING TO TRACK IT A LITTLE MORE ACCURATELY. DECISION PACKAGES. WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDED DECISION PACKAGES THIS YEAR. THE ONE UNFUNDED ONE WAS A STREETS WORK TRUCK, FUTURE DECISION PACKAGES, AND THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY IMMEDIATE NEED, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO BE NEED IN THE FUTURE AS THE NETWORK GETS BIGGER, PROBABLY ANOTHER CREW SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT A MAINTENANCE WORKER, SEEING A MAINTENANCE WORKER, AND OPERATOR. BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT AN IMMEDIATE NEED, BUT IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING AS THE NETWORK GROWS AND THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN BUILDS UP AND AGES IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. THEN THE CURRENT STAFFING CHALLENGES, WE ACTUALLY HAD FIVE ON HERE. WE JUST MADE AN OFFER TODAY OR WE JUST APPROVED SOMEBODY TODAY, HIRED SOME SO THAT'S GOOD, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT. MAINTENANCE WORKERS 1, SENIOR MAINTENANCE WORKERS 2 ARE SHORT AND THEN A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. AS YOU CAN RECALL, THE PREVIOUS UTILITY ONE, EQUIPMENT OPERATORS WERE DEFINITELY THE AREA WHERE WE'RE VERY CHALLENGED TO FIND RIGHT NOW. WE'RE WORKING WITH COMMUNICATIONS AND HR RIGHT NOW TO FIND SOME WAYS TO TRY TO MAKE THE TOWN A LITTLE MORE THESE POSITIONS MORE VISIBLE SO WE CAN HIRE SOME PEOPLE. >> IS IT HARD TO FIND A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR IN GENERAL. DO SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE SKILLS TO DO THAT? I'VE HAD SEVERAL PATIENTS OF MINE WHO'VE HAD MULTIPLE INJURIES FROM BEING A HEAVY EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. I WAS WONDERING IF, ONE, IF IT'S HARD TO FIND THOSE BASED ON SKILL LEVEL AND ALSO IF YOU'RE NEEDING MORE FTES TO ALLOW THEM SOME FLEXIBILITY TO PREVENT INJURIES. I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD A LOT OF INJURIES WITH THOSE FOLKS. >> NO, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE OF INJURIES WITH THEM. I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY A SKILLED POSITION. I THINK WITH THE AMOUNT OF CONSTRUCTION GOING ON IN THE METROPLEX, IT'S DEFINITELY A DESIRED POSITION. PEOPLE WANT THEM, I'LL PAY THEM. IT'S ONE. IT'S HARD TO RECRUIT. A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUR MAINTENANCE WORKERS UP AND TEACH THEM THE SKILLS THEY NEED TO BECOME AN EQUIPMENT OPERATOR. THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT. BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH THAT AND IT'S-. >> A HUGE SAFETY SKILL TO HAVE. >> IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE A GOOD OPERATOR WHEN YOU'RE WORKING AROUND PEOPLE FOR SURE. ANOTHER ONE IS AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT. AS THE TOWN AGES, YOU NEED TO DO MORE PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE. THAT REQUIRES MORE PEOPLE, MORE DOLLARS. SIDEWALK FAILURES IS THE SAME AS JUST AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. THEN BACKLOG ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS A LOT WITH A BOND THAT WE JUST DID. THAT WAS DEFINITELY GOING TO BE A HELP. IT JUST HAPPENED. WE HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THE BENEFITS OF THAT YET. BUT I WILL SAY WITH THE JOINT SEALANT, WE'VE DEFINITELY MOVED FORWARD INTO MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, PERFORMING MORE PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE, THAT HAS DEFINITELY HELPED. LET ME ASK YOU THAT. ANY QUESTIONS FOR OUR STREETS? >> WHILE AGO WHEN CLAY WAS HERE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE ASPHALT OVERLAY. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THAT AS MUCH AS WE DID IN THE PAST. >> I THINK PLANO HAS DONE ONE A COUPLE ACTUALLY. >> GREAT. >> I'M SORRY. >> I THINK GREAT PINE HAS. >> GREAT PINE DID SOMETHING AND IRVING, RIGHT? >> THEY HAVE TOO. >> SEVERAL MUNICIPALITIES HAVE RECENTLY DONE THAT. IT'S DEFINITELY AN OPTION. WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IT. YOU JUST HAVE TO BE REAL CAREFUL BECAUSE, I THINK IT'S A BAD WAY TO SAY, BUT PUT LIPSTICK ON A PIG, I GUESS. YOU DON'T WANT TO BAND AID THE PROBLEM, YOU WANT TO FIX THE PROBLEM. IF THERE'S FAILURES, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE FIXING THE SUBGRADE AND IF WE'RE FIXING THE SUBGRADE AND REPLACING CONCRETE, WE JUST MIGHT DO IT WITH CONCRETE. I WILL SAY THAT THE ASPHALT WILL DEFINITELY CREATE A MORE UNIFORM, SMOOTH RIDE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG BENEFITS. I THINK IT WILL BE GOOD TO SEE HOW THIS THIN OVERLAY LAST AND PERFORMS IN THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE JUST DONE IT, AND TALK WITH THOSE DEPARTMENTS AND SEE HOW THEY LIKE IT LONG TERM. I SAY LONG TERM, I'D SAY MAYBE MEDIUM LONG TERM, MAYBE IN THE NEXT TWO OR THREE YEARS, AND GET SOME GOOD FEEDBACK FROM THEM BECAUSE I WILL SAY DRIVING THE PLANO 1, I THINK THEY'RE ALREADY REPAIRING SOME SPOTS ON IT, AND THAT WAS JUST DONE RECENTLY. LIKE I SAID, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA. I THINK YOU JUST HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT AND LEARN FROM OTHER PEOPLE'S MISTAKES THAT SEE WHAT MISTAKES THEY MADE AND DO IT THE CORRECT WAY. [02:10:02] >> BRIAN, I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT AS IT'S COME UP, YOU AND I CANDIDATE PROJECTS AS THEY'VE COME UP, WE'VE LOOKED AT THE M ONE RECENTLY. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS, BUT WE TALKED ABOUT IT. I THINK MANNY ACTUALLY WENT OUT AND LOOKED AND SAID STRUCTURALLY, IT JUST ISN'T THERE. WE ARE CONSIDERING IT EVERY PROJECT MOVING FORWARD. I THINK WE EVEN RAN COST NUMBERS ON IT BEFORE WE LOOKED AT IT. BUT IF STRUCTURALLY LIKE BRIAN SAYING, IT CAN'T SUPPORT IT, IT'S NOT EVEN A CANDIDATE FOR. >> LIKE I SAID, WE'RE NOT AGAINST IT. IT'S JUST SOMETHING WE WANT TO BE REAL CAREFUL WITH. YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT AND IT FAILS AND THEN NO ONE EVER WANTS TO DO IT AGAIN. LETS PICK A ROAD THAT WILL WORK. I WILL SAY MILLION OVERLAY FOR ASPHALT IS A LOT CHEAPER THAN REPLACING CONCRETE. EXTREME A LOT AND SO MUCH CHEAPER AND I THINK THAT, THAT COULD BE A WAY AS THE TOWN NETWORK AGES, IT COULD BE A WAY TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF THE COSTS OF CONCRETE. BUT WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. >> A LOT OF THE FAILURES THAT WE'RE SEEING RIGHT NOW MORE RELATED TO SUBGRADE FAILURES THAT WOULDN'T SUPPORT THAT TYPE OF TECHNOLOGY? >> I WOULD SAY MOST FAILURES ON CONCRETE PAVEMENT OR ASPHALT PAVEMENT IS RELATED TO SUBGRADE. WHETHER IT'S AT WATER GETTING INTO THE SUBGRADE AND THEN THE PANEL STARTS MOVING AND THEN MORE WATER GETS IN, YOU GOT THE FREEZE THAW, IT'S WATER. EARLIER, YOU HEARD THEM TALKING ABOUT THE CLAY SOILS FOR THE LAKESIDE PANEL REPLACEMENT. IF YOU DON'T GET WATER INTO THE CLAY SOILS, YOU DON'T GET THE EXPANSION AND CONTRACTION. IT'S ALL ABOUT PREVENTING THE WATER FROM GETTING UNDERNEATH INTO THE SUBGRADE. THAT'S WHY THAT JOINT CEILING AND SLURRY CEILING IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAINTAIN, SO YOU DON'T GET THE FAILURES. >> ARE THERE ARE NEW TECHNOLOGIES IN CONCRETE THAT ARE ACTUALLY HELPING TO PREVENT SOME OF THAT WATER SEEPAGE? >> THE CONCRETE ITSELF. THE WATER WON'T GET THROUGH THE CONCRETE. IT'S JUST THE JOINTS. >> YEAH. IT DOESN'T BREAKS. >> YOU GOT TO UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING WITH CONCRETE WILL CRACK NO MATTER WHAT. THAT'S WHAT THE JOINTS ARE FOR IS TO PROVIDE A SPACE FOR THE CONCRETE TO CRACK. WHEN IT CRACKS AND YOU DON'T SEAL IT, THAT'S WHERE THE WATER GETS IN AND IT JUST START THERE. LIKE I SAID, IT'S JUST A PREVENTATIVE THING TO TRY TO DO YOUR BEST TO GET THE WATER OUT FROM THE UPGRADE. >> OKAY. THANKS. >> DOVETAILING ON COMMISSIONER DREW'S COMMENT ABOUT NEW TECHNOLOGY. I HAD RECENTLY SEEN SOME IT LOOKED LIKE ASPHALT THAT WAS GRAY. IS THAT A DIFFERENT PRODUCT OR ARE THEY JUST PAINTING ASPHALT? >> I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE WHAT EXACTLY GRAY ASP. I THINK I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. I JUST WANT TO THERE ARE DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES THAT WE HAVE SEEN, NOTHING THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING DOWN YET, PUT THAT WAY. >> I THINK WHAT SHE'S REFERENCING, I BELIEVE THAT GRAND PERY EXPERIMENTED WITH SRA EXCUSE ME, GRAY VINE EXPERIMENTED WITH A THIN. >> COATING. >> COATING. CEMENT OVERLAY HADN'T GOTTEN GOOD RESULTS ON THAT. THAT MIGHT BE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. >> I WILL SAY I THINK I'M PRETTY FORWARD THINKING WITH DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND TRY WANTING TO TRY OUT DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES. BUT LIKE I SAID, I JUST WANT TO BE REAL CAREFUL. >> WE DEFINITELY TALK TO THEM AT CONFERENCES AND EVENTS AND EVEN BRING THEM IN AND HAVE THEM TALK TO US AND SHOW US AND THEN WE GO BACK AND TALK WITH WHO THEY DID THE WORK FOR AND GET REAL ANSWERS AND SEE HOW LONG IT'S BEEN IN AND WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE HAVING GOOD RESULTS, BUT WE'RE CONSTANTLY LOOKING AT NEW IDEAS THAT ARE OUT THERE. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PICK SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PUTTING DOWN IN A SUBSTITUTE FOR A REPLACEMENT OR FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH ASPHALT NOW. >> APPRECIATE THE CONSERVATIVE APPROACH. >> JUMP INTO TRAFFIC. WE TALKED ABOUT THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THEY COMPLETED 100% INSTALLATION OF THE DATA ANALYTICS CAMERAS. WE IMPLEMENTED THE AI ASSISTED TRAFFIC SOFTWARE. PER CURRENTLY PARTNERING WITH WAYS TO PROVIDE ROUTE PROJECT INFORMATION. WHEN FALL IN THE FLOWER AMOUNT HAPPENED, WE WERE ABLE TO GO INTO WAYS AND CLOSE CERTAIN ROADS. WHEN PEOPLE ARRIVE AT THE SITE, THEY'RE ALREADY CLOSED IN WAYS, AND IT JUST HELPS THE TRAFFIC FLOW. I'M CURRENTLY PARTNERING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO IDENTIFY POSSIBLE SAFE TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, MAINTAIN 1,900 TRAFFIC SIGNS, REHAB SEVEN SIGNALS. THEN YOU CAN SEE WITH OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE VERY GOOD WITH THE PROACTIVE WORK ORDERS, AND WE HIT 95% PROACTIVE FOR SIGNALS AND SIGNS. THEN GOALS CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE WITH OG, TEXTOK AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, WHEN IT RELATES TO CONSTRUCTION OF OUR CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE OR OTHER SIGNALS CONTINUING TO UTILIZE THAT WAYS OR THIRD PARTY NAVIGATION INTERFACE FOR PROJECT INFORMATION. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE THAT AGREEMENT IN PLACE, [02:15:01] AND WE CAN RECEIVE DATA, BUT HOW DO WE TAKE THAT DATA THAT WE RECEIVE FROM WAYS AND EXPORT IT. FOR INSTANCE, IF SOMEBODY REPORTS A DEAD ANIMAL ON THE ROAD, HOW DO WE GET THAT INFORMATION TO ANIMAL SERVICES? IT'S JUST HOW WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, EVERYBODY IN REAL TIME. WE'RE JUST WORKING WITH IT AND GIS FOR THAT. THEN CONTINUE TO HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF PROACTIVE WORK ORDERS, AND THEN CONTINUE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENT OPPORTUNITIES. TRAFFIC SERVICE MANAGEMENT 4, YOU CAN SEE THEIR OPERATION BUDGET, 764,000, BUT AT THAT BOTTOM RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE ELECTRICITY, $745,000 OF THAT. RECENTLY, WE MOVED THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND STREET LIGHTS, ELECTRICITY TO THIS DEPARTMENT. IT WAS ORIGINALLY UNDER THE STREETS DEPARTMENT. IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE BEING UNDER THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HERE. TRANSPORTATION PLANNING, BUDGETING. I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THESE. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS SIGNIFICANT. THEY DO A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS WITH THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, MAINTENANCE, COORDINATING WITH COG, CITIZEN TRAFFIC REQUESTS, WORK ZONE PLANS. THEY REVIEW ALL THE DEVELOPMENT CIP PROJECTS, TRAFFIC SIGNAL TIMING. THEY DO THE CAMERA SYSTEM THAT ALSO PT PD USES. THERE'S A LOT ON HERE THAT THEY DO. THE SIGNS OF MARKINGS 8 FTES, THEIR OPERATION BUDGET WAS 793,000. THEY DO SIGN FABRICATION, INSTALLATION, THE MEDIAN ALERT, FLEET DECALS. THEY WORK WITH THE PARADES, INDEPENDENCE FEST. THEY DO TRAFFIC CONTROL FOR THE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL GAMES OR BLOCK PARTIES, ASSIST OTHER DIVISIONS WITH CITY WORK. I WOULD SAY THAT THE SIGNS OF MARKINGS GROUP AS WELL AS THEY'RE VERY VERY FORWARD. SO THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THE CITY WORKS AS FAR AS THEIR WORK ORDER SYSTEM, AND WE CAN ALL LEARN A LOT FROM THEM ON WHAT THEY DO. I WILL SAY THAT DURING THE CITY WORKS ASSESSMENT, I THINK IT WAS POSITIVE FEEDBACK FROM THIS GROUP ON HOW THEY DO THEIR WORK ORDERS. WE'RE DEFINITELY LEARNING A LOT IN UTILIZING SOME OF THEIR PROCESSES. LET'S SEE, WE GOT CORDING WITH PARKS DEVELOPMENT, OR PARKS DEVELOPMENT SIGNS. THEY DO THE SUP AND TREE MOBILE SIGNS THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF PROPERTIES. TREE TRIMMING AROUND SIGNALS, SIGN OR SIGNS, WINTER WEATHER RESPONSE. THEY ALSO THEY MAINTAIN ALMOST 16,000 TRAFFIC SIGNS. THEY DO A LOT, SIMILAR THINGS, AND THEY HAVE A REALLY ROBUST GIS NETWORK, AS WELL AS ALL OF THEIR SIGNS, EVERY INDIVIDUAL SIGN IN GIS. THIS IS THEIR WORK ORDER SYSTEM, AS YOU CAN SEE, IN 2023, 2024 AND 2025, THE WORK ORDERS WENT UP. THAT WAS A RESULT OF THE TWO PEOPLE THAT WERE ADDED DURING THE BUDGET. THEY GOT TWO NEW FTES, AND THEIR WORK ORDERS WENT UP, AND IT JUST SHOWS THEM BEING ABLE TO UTILIZE PEOPLE TO THEIR FULLEST AND KEEPING THEM ACTIVE. THEN THE RIGHT IS JUST KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THEIR WORK ORDER SYSTEM LOOKS LIKE. THEY'VE BROKEN DOWN THE INDIVIDUAL WORK ORDERS AND WHAT THE TYPE OF WORK ORDER IT WAS. THEN THEY ALSO KEEP A GOOD INVENTORY OF WHAT THE SIGN DESCRIPTION WAS, WHAT THE COST OF THOSE MATERIALS WERE. LIKE I SAID, THEY DO A GREAT JOB ON THIS SYSTEM, AND THE GOAL IS MOVING FORWARD TO HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS DOING THIS AND MORE. TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS 6 FTES. THEIR OPERATING BUDGET IS 923,000. FOR THIS YEAR INCLUDES 295,000 INTERFUND TRANSFER FOR CAPITAL PROJECT. BUT YOU CAN SEE THEY MAINTAIN A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF INFRASTRUCTURE RELATED TO SIGNALS. ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THEY USE TRAFFIC COUNTS. THEY MAINTAIN THE WIRELESS SIGNAL NETWORK FOR THE CAMERAS AND THE DATA FROM THE SIGNALS. SIGNAL ON CALL 247. THEN ON THE BOTTOM, THEY HAVE AS LIKE THE HOMETOWN HERO BANNERS, THEY USE BRIDGE STREET LIGHTS. ON THE BOTTOM HERE IS A SINGLE DAY VOLUME. WHAT WAS THIS INTERSECTION? YEAH. 1171 AND 2499. YOU CAN SEE 82,000 VEHICLES THROUGH THIS INTERSECTION IN A DAY. THIS IS, AND I WILL DO MY BEST TO ANSWER ALL THE QUESTIONS ON THIS. BUT LIKE I SAID, MAP THE EXPERT ON THIS, AND IF YOU HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS OR ANY MORE, HE DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO SHARE ALL THIS WITH YOU. BUT YOU CAN SEE THE WORK ORDERS FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS, GENERALLY PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD. [02:20:03] BUT ON THE MIDDLE GRAPHIC, THERE IS PRETTY INTERESTING WITH THE DATA ANALYTIC CAMERA AS IT TALKS ABOUT YOUR SPEED. ON SECTIONS OF ROADWAYS. ON THIS ONE SPECIFICALLY, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS FROM IS ON 2499 BETWEEN JIO AND 3040. YOU CAN SEE, GOING NORTH TO SOUTH, THE DIFFERENT ROADS. AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE, YOU SEE YOUR TIME FROM BASICALLY MIDNIGHT TO MIDNIGHT ON THAT DAY. HEADING NORTH ON THE RIGHT SIDE, YOU CAN SEE FROM ABERDEEN TO 3040, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IN THE AFTERNOON. THERE'S A BACKUP THERE. SPEEDS ARE MUCH SLOWER. BUT FOR THE REST OF THE DAY, THE SIGNALS TENDS TO WORK PRETTY WELL, ESPECIALLY FOR THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC THAT GETS THROUGH THE INTERSECTION. IN THE SAME ON THE LEFT, WHEN YOU'RE GOING SOUTHBOUND THROUGH JIO, YOU CAN SEE THE BACKUP IN THAT SHORT LITTLE PERIOD OF TIME IN THE MORNING. >> BUT WHY IS THERE A GAP BETWEEN THE TWO RED LINES? WHAT'S HAPPENING BETWEEN 8:00 A.M., I GUESS 9:00 A.M. OR WHATEVER? IS EVERYBODY DRIVING ON THE HOUR, AND THEN BETWEEN HOURS, THERE'S NOBODY? WHY WOULD THERE BE A BETTER PERIOD BETWEEN THE TWO? >> I'LL LET MATT, TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. >> I HIT THIS ALL THE TIME. >> I'M COMING SOUTHBOUND. >> I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS BACKING UP FROM RIVER WALK OR WHATEVER THAT GRAPEVINE INTERSECTION IS CALLED, AND IT GOES ALL THE WAY TO SILVER ON SOMETIMES. >> THIS IS SIMPLY TAKING THE DATA TIME PERIODS AND THEN IT'S GIVEN YOU THAT AVERAGE SPEED. IT'S JUST LIKE ANYTHING ELSE, THE TRAFFIC EBBS AND FLOWS. THEN, BETWEEN THOSE TWO, IT GETS A LITTLE BIT FASTER. YOU CAN SEE RIGHT BEFORE 8:00. THERE'S PROBABLY A NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO BE EITHER TO WORK RIGHT AT 8:00 OR JUST SLIGHTLY AFTER 8:00, AND THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT HAS TO BE TO WORK SLIGHTLY BEFORE 9:00. THERE'S JUST THAT EB AND FLOW OF THE TRAFFIC. >> IT'S INTERESTING THAT IT'S SO CONSISTENT NORTHBOUND. BUT THERE'S LIKE THESE TWO PERIODS WHERE IT'S REALLY BAD. IT'S VERY CURIOUS TO ME THAT THERE'S THAT IMPROVED PART RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE TWO. >> YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE SPEEDING GOING TO WORK? >> NO, THEY'RE NOT. >> [OVERLAPPING] WELL, IF YOU LOOK AT THIS. [LAUGHTER] >> THE GREEN IS 51 MILES PER HOUR, WHICH IS THAT 45 THERE OR 47? >> FIFETY FIVE ON THE SOUTH SIDE. >> ON THE VERY SOUTH SIDE. >> THIS WHOLE AREA IS 55, NO, NOT TO JUST BETWEEN SPHINX AND ABERDEEN, IS WHERE IT CHANGES. >> WHERE IT SAYS DOWN BELOW, LIKE JARO TO SILVERON? >> THAT'S ALL 55, SO TO SPEAK. >> I THINK THIS IS GOOD. IT SHOWS YOU THE LEVEL OF INFORMATION THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THESE CAMERAS. IT PUTS IT ON A GRAPH THAT IS VERY EASY TO READ FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE. I THINK IT ALSO POINTS OUT, IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS WHERE THE ISSUES ARE. WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS, I WILL SAY THAT THE ANALYTIC CAMERAS AND THE SOFTWARE THAT WE INVESTED IN IS DEFINITELY HELPED MATT AND HIS TEAM IDENTIFY AREAS THAT ARE CHALLENGING. WE CAN DO THIS ANYWHERE WITH ANALYTIC CAMERAS, WHICH IS EVERYWHERE IN TOWN. EVERY SIGNAL WE HAVE. I WOULD JUST SAY, THANK YOU FOR INVESTING IN THIS, BECAUSE THIS IS DEFINITELY GOING TO RETURN SOME GOOD RESULTS. OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE SOME POINTS WHERE THE ROAD IS JUST A CAPACITY, AND THERE'S NOT A TON YOU CAN DO, BUT THIS DEFINITELY HELPS US FINE TUNE THE SYSTEM, AND MATT AND HIS TEAM DO A GREAT JOB THAT WAY. >> PRIME BEFORE WE GET OFF THIS. ANOTHER EXAMPLE, 370-71-1701, COMING SOUTH ON 377 CAN BE QUITE THE BOTTLENECK. OBVIOUSLY, THESE ARE TEXTOK PROJECTS THAT ARE SLATED TO BEGIN AT SOME POINT. IS THERE A FEEDBACK LOOP, OR WE CAN PRESENT THIS DATA TO TEXTOK TO GIVE THEM EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE THAT HERE'S WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON AT THESE INTERSECTIONS? >> WE COULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. I WILL SAY THAT 377 PROJECT IS DRIVEN BY FUNDING THAT TEXTOK HAS TO GO. THE PROJECT IS GENERALLY READY TO GO. I THINK THE DESIGN PLANS ARE DONE. IT'S JUST WHEN THEY CAN GET THEIR FUNDING APPROVED TO MAKE THAT MOVE FORWARD. I WILL SAY THAT THE TOWN IS DEFINITELY PUSHING THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AS BEST WE CAN TO EXPEDITE THE PROJECT, BUT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TO FUNDING. BUT YES, I THINK THAT THIS DOES PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WE COULD PROVIDE THEM, BUT I THINK THEY'RE VERY WELL AWARE OF THE ISSUES THAT. >> THAT'S A SPECIFIC INTERSECTION. BUT OTHER AREAS IN TOWN THERE TEXTILE ROADS. >> SURE. >> IF WE COULD BE PROACTIVE AND GET THIS DATA TO THEM AND GET AHEAD OF A PROBLEM OR SEE THINGS TRENDING UP, THAT COULD BE GOOD DATA TO GIVE TO THEM. I DON'T KNOW IF IT FALL ON DEAF EARS. >> NO, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. A LOT OF TIMES, IF THERE'S ANY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE ON A TEXTILE ROADWAY, WE CAN PRESENT THEM OR WE CAN EVEN FUND THEM. BUT ULTIMATELY, IT COMES DOWN TO THEM WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO APPROVE THE PERMIT OR NOT AND PROVIDING DATA LIKE THIS, THAT SHOWS WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND WHAT OUR PLAN IMPROVEMENTS ARE, DEFINITELY HELPS. [02:25:03] >> THE 377 ON THE NORTH SIDE IS FUNDED. IN THE INTERSECTION, BUT THE AREA THAT GOES OVER THE WET WIND? THAT'S NOT. >> THAT'S TWO SEPARATE PROJECTS. >> JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE. >> AS LONG AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT, THEY'RE ON, LET'S SEE THE DATE ON THIS. THE CROSS TIMBERS GAZETTE PUT OUT AN ARTICLE ON AUGUST 19, AND THEY SAID BASICALLY THAT THE 35W PROJECT WAS SUPPOSED TO THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE PUTTING IN THE ACCESS ROADS ALREADY, BUT ALL THE FUNDING GOT CUT AND RE-ALLOCATED. IT SAYS HERE. TEXTOK SAID THAT I'M TRYING TO FIND THE EXACT LANGUAGE. ANYWAY, IT SAYS THAT ALL THE FUNDING WAS ELIMINATED FROM THAT PROJECT AND HAS NOT BEEN REFUNDED, OR THERE'S NO NEW FUNDING IDENTIFIED. IS THAT ACCURATE? WHAT'S THE CURRENT STATE OF 35W IMPROVEMENT? >> THE 35W ITSELF IS A SECONDARY PROJECT TO 35W FRONTAGE ROADS. AT THIS POINT, I WANT TO SAY THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE BREAKOUT PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH FORWARD WITH HELP WITH A COUNTY IN TEXTOK. THE PLANS ARE, LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE GENERALLY DESIGNED. THEY'RE READY TO GO FOR THE BREAKOUT PROJECTS, BUT IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO FUNDING AND TEXTOK BEING ABLE TO FUND IT. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY. I WILL SAY WITH A NEW BUDGET YEAR. I THINK THERE'S MORE OPPORTUNITY AT THE END OF THE BUDGET YEAR. TEXTOK HAS TO MAKE CHANGES OR MAKE DECISIONS ON WHAT PROJECTS GET FUNDED AND WHAT DON'T. WHEN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR STARTS, SOME OF THAT MONEY BECOMES AVAILABLE FOR THEM TO RE ALLOCATE TO DIFFERENT PROJECTS. THAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET YOU MORE DETAILED INFORMATION AND PROVIDE THAT TOO. >> I MEAN, I FOUND IT. SPECIFICALLY, WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST PHASE WAS FULLY FUNDED. CONSTRUCTION OF FRONTAGE ROADS IN 2025, I SAID THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PROJECTS LEFT BEFORE THAT CAN BEGIN, RIGHT AWAY, UTILITY RELOCATIONS, CORPS OF ENGINEER APPROVALS. BUT EVEN MORE IMPORTANTLY, THE PROJECT IS NO LONGER FUNDED AND TABLED INDEFINITELY. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. WHAT PROJECT IS NO LONGER FUNDED AND TABLED INDEFINITELY? >> I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME THAT? >> LET ME DO THAT BECAUSE I REALLY WANT TO GET CLARIFICATION ON THIS, BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO GO TO MITCH, WHO'S ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? I'VE ALSO BEEN HEARING FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE IN THE SURVEYING INDUSTRY, AND THEY SAY TEXTOK IS TRYING TO INSOURCE EVERYTHING, AND THEY'RE NOT FUNDING PROJECTS, AND THEY DON'T HAVE FEDERAL COVID MONEY. THAT'S DRIED UP, THE AMOUNT OF FUNDING FOR PROJECTS IS WAY DOWN FROM WHERE IT WAS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE'RE GOING TO START TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH OUR REPRESENTATIVES, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HAVE MY FACTS. >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. IF YOU COULD SEND ME THAT THAT WAY, I CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND WE CAN WORK WITH OUR CONTACTS AND TRY TO FIND EXACTLY WHAT THE ANSWERS TO THOSE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ARE. >> YOU'LL HAVE IT BEFORE THE END OF YOUR PRESENTATION. >> PERFECT. THANK YOU. THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDED DECISION PACKAGES THIS YEAR. THERE WERE A FEW UNDEFUNDED ONES. THERE WAS A TRAILER, A FLATBED SIGN CUTTER, AND THEN WE TALKED ABOUT A SIGNAL SYSTEMS OPERATOR. WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE. THERE'S SO MUCH DATA COMING IN NOW, AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE YOU SAVE A TON OF MONEY BECAUSE NOW YOU HAVE SO MUCH DATA. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HIRE PEOPLE TO GET ALL THAT DATA, BUT NOW YOU HAVE ALL OF IT. NOW YOU NEED SOMEBODY TO HELP GO THROUGH IT, MONITOR THE SYSTEM. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ONE. THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR THAT DECISION PACKAGE, AND THEN TWO SENIOR SIGN TECHNICIANS TO HELP THE BACKLOG OF THE SIGNS AND MARKINGS BACKLOG FOR MAINTENANCE. THEN, FUTURE FUTURE ONES, I PUT THE TWO UNFUNDED ONES ARE STILL HERE. THEY'RE NOT DUPLICATED ON THIS FUTURE ONE. IN THE FUTURE, WE'D PROBABLY ASK FOR THE SAME ONES WE ASKED FOR LAST YEAR, AS WELL AS IN THE FUTURE, THEY'RE ASSIGNED A FABRICATOR, AND THEN POSSIBLY ANOTHER GRADUATE TRAFFIC ENGINEER AT SOME POINT WHEN THE SYSTEM BECOMES LARGER. IT'S THE SAME THING AS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE OTHER ONES, THE UTILITY. AS THE TOWN GROWS, AS THE NETWORK GETS BIGGER, THERE'S JUST MORE WORK TO BE DONE, AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE LOOKING AT SOME ADDITIONAL PERSONNEL. >> THEN CHALLENGES, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNAL SYSTEMS OPERATOR. WE HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL WORKLOAD FROM THE DATA ANALYTICS CAMERAS AND THE SOFTWARE, THERE'S A LOT OF DATA. IT'S GREAT DATA, IT'S JUST A LOT TO LOOK THROUGH. BACKLOG ON PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE. RIGHT NOW, FOR INSTANCE, ON MARKINGS, YOU HAVE THE STREET MARKINGS. RIGHT NOW, WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE, IT'S A 12-YEAR REPLACEMENT CYCLE FOR EVERY MARKING IN TOWN, [02:30:03] BUT THIS LIFE CYCLE OF SOME OF THESE MARKINGS IS ABOUT FIVE YEARS. WE'RE NOT VERY PROACTIVE WITH THAT, WE'RE REACTIVE, WE'RE PICKING THE ONES THAT NEED TO BE DONE NOW AND ON THE PRIMARY STREETS, BUT MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY ON THE COLLECTORS, MORE ON THE ARTERIALS. ALSO, THE MEDIAN ALERT TRAFFIC SIGN MAINTENANCE. I THINK IN RECENT YEARS, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AND WORKING MORE ON THE TRAFFIC SIGNS REPLACEMENT SIDE OF IT, LESS ON THE MEDIAN ALERT SIDE. BUT AS PEOPLE HIT MEDIAN ALERT OR AS IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, IT'S JUST NOT HAPPENING AS WELL AS IT COULD. IT'S NOT SAYING WE'RE DOING A BAD JOB, THIS IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THE DECISIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE ON A DAILY BASIS, AND WHICH ONES WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE. GENERAL INCREASE IN TRAFFIC. I THINK EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES THAT, POSSIBLE CRASS, PRONE LOCATIONS. AGAIN, TALKING WITH TRAFFIC AND PD AND IDENTIFYING THESE LOCATIONS AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO ADDRESS THEM. ADA RAMP COMPLIANCE, I WILL SAY, JUST GENERAL ADA COMPLIANCE. EVERY TIME WE DO A PROJECT, YOU GOT TO TAKE AND IMPROVE THE ADA TO MEET THE NEW REGULATIONS, AND I WILL SAY THAT THE REGULATIONS CHANGE ALL THE TIME. YOU MAY FIX SOMETHING, AND THEN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO, IT'S JUST SOMETHING'S DIFFERENT, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND FIX IT, BUT IT'S JUST COMPLIANCE ON THESE RAMPS. IT'S ALWAYS CHANGING. I'M SORRY [OVERLAPPING]. >> WHAT WILL CHANGE, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY? >> SOMETIME MARKING CAN BE MORE SPECIFIC, BUT SOMETIMES YOU MAY HAVE A RAMP, FOR INSTANCE, RIGHT NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE STREETS THAT WERE BUILT A FEW, MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO, YOU HAVE A RAMP IT'S JUST A CURVE RAMP, IT HAS A CURVED. IT'S HARD TO DESCRIBE. JUST A RAMP WITH THE EXIT IS CURVED, AND THERE'S NO PEDESTRIANS, LIKE THE BUTTONS OR THE ROUGH SURFACE ON IT BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE ROAD. THAT'S ALL REQUIRED NOW. ANYTIME YOU HAVE A SIDEWALK IN A ROAD, YOU HAVE TO THE SEPARATION WITH THE DETECTABLE WARNING STRIP. IF ANYONE IS WALKING A DETECTABLE WARNING, BUT SOME OF THE OLD RAMPS DON'T HAVE THAT. IT'S JUST TRYING TO KEEP COMPLIANCE WITH ADA IN GENERAL. BUT WE DO HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT HELPS US. WE FUND THAT EVERY YEAR, SO WE HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT THAT HELPS US. REPLACE THESE. BUT JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH SIDEWALK AND RAMPS WE HAVE IN TOWN. IT'S JUST DIFFICULT TO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THE TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT FACES. CITY WORKS FUNCTIONALITY. RIGHT NOW, I SAY THAT THEY DO A GREAT JOB ON IT. MAYBE THEY WANT TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT MORE, MORE THAN THE CITY WORKERS CAN DO, BUT I'LL SAY WE'RE GOING TOWARD WE'RE UPGRADING OUR CITY WORKS PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING IMPROVING THAT PROCESS. THEIR CHALLENGES MAY BE SOLVED WITH THAT PROCESS OF IMPROVING CITY WORKS. THEN THIS IS LONG TERM BUT FIBER COMMUNICATION. RIGHT NOW WE USE RADIO. YOU'RE USING WITH ALL THE DATA ANALYTICS, ALL THE CAMERAS, YOU'RE LIMITED ON THE CAPACITY OF THE NETWORK. ALSO COMMUNICATING WITH THE SIGNALS. IF IT'S RAINING OUT OR STORMING OR SNOWING, SOMETIMES YOU DON'T HAVE COMMUNICATION WITH THOSE SIGNALS JUST BECAUSE THE SIGNAL DOESN'T GET FROM WHERE IT NEEDS THE RECEIVER TO THE TRANSPORT. I SAY MOST CITIES, A LOT OF CITIES USE FIBER. THEY HAVE A NETWORK OF FIBER IN THE TOWN AND THEY TAP INTO THAT FIBER AND IT'S ALL CONNECTED ALL THE TIME. THIS MAY BE ONE THAT LIKE I SAID, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE RIGHT AWAY, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE OF A LONG TERM LOOK AT SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. I KNOW IT HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS AND WE WOULD JUST TAG ON TO WHAT THEY WERE DOING. BUT THIS IS JUST ONE OF THE FUTURE CHALLENGES OR THE CURRENT CHALLENGES WE FACE. >> CITIES ARE RUNNING THEIR OWN FIBER NETWORK. >> WE HAVE OUR OWN FIBER NETWORK. WE HAVE A FIBER NETWORK, IT GOES FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING, BUT IT DOESN'T GO TO THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR CHALLENGES ARE. BUT A LOT OF CITIES HAVE THEIR OWN FIBER NETWORKS, MOST CITIES DO. I SAY THEIR FIBER NETWORK ISN'T SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO STREETS AND TRAFFIC. IT'S JUST THEIR WHOLE FIBER NETWORK THAT MAY RUN BY A SIGNAL THAT THE SIGNALS TAP INTO. THEN WE GOT OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS AND I MENTIONED THIS ISN'T REALLY STREETS OR TRAFFIC, BUT THEY DO STREETS AND TRAFFIC. WE TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL PROJECTS. FOR THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION FOR 2026 IS $6.7 MILLION. THAT IS ALL BOND FUNDS. YOU CAN SEE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, WE'VE LISTED OUT BY YEAR HOW MUCH WE'RE SPENDING AND THAT, THERE IS YOUR $39 MILLION THAT WE APPROVED FOR THE STREET BOND FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND THEN ON THE BOTTOM THERE, [02:35:03] YOU SEE THE FUNDING SOURCE BY YEAR. IT'S ALL BOND FUNDS, EXCEPT FOR THAT $200,000, WHICH IS RELATED TO OUR STREET ASSESSMENT STUDY. IT'S NOT A BOND FUNDED PROGRAM, BUT IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO TO UPDATE OUR PCI SCORES. ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE PROJECTS THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS OR FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS AND THE ONES IN YELLOW ARE THE ONES WE'RE DOING IN 2026. THEN THE SAME FOR TRAFFIC SIGNALS AS $2 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE COST PROGRAM COST BY YEAR, AND THAT CHANGES. IF A DEVELOPMENT COMES IN AND THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN SOMETHING ON, THEY'RE GOING TO PUT IN DEVELOPMENT OUT WEST THAT MAY NECESSITATE A SIGNAL. WE DON'T KNOW THAT, SO WE DON'T PLAN FOR IT UNTIL THE DEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED. THOSE NUMBERS MIGHT CHANGE OR FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE BUDGETED COST, YOU CAN SEE THE FUNDING, AND THEN THE HIGHLIGHTED YELLOW ONES ARE THE ONES WE'RE DOING THIS YEAR. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. I THOUGHT IT WAS GREAT. I KNOW I LIKE THE CONNECTION WE HAVE WITH WAYS AS WELL FOR SOME OF OUR EVENTS. YOU ALL USED THAT FOR THE VETERANS RUN, TOO, DIDN'T YOU, WES? DO YOU ALL USE THAT? >> NO. >> I WAS ABLE TO TRACK WHERE EVERYTHING WAS. I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE EVENTS. I KNOW FOR THE FALL FESTIVAL, WE USED THAT AS WELL, YOU COLLABORATE. IT IS REALLY COOL. THEN WITH ALL OUR EVENTS, I LOVE THAT. I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO IT BECAUSE YOU ALL ARE GOING TO START EXPANDING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. >> SAY WITH TRAFFIC, ALSO, IF WE HAVE A CAPITAL PROJECT OR DEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND THEY CLOSE DOWN A CERTAIN SECTION OF ROAD FOR A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME. WE CAN PUT THAT INTO WAYS, SO IT AUTOMATICALLY DIVERTS TRAFFIC AWAY. >> IT'S REALLY GOOD BECAUSE SO MANY PEOPLE USE THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THOUGH. THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE ON OUR AGENDA IS THE DCAD, [M. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS] DENTON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT. TRACY HENDERSON, TOWN SECRETARY IS GOING TO PRESENT ON THIS. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION FOR CASTING VOTES FOR CANDIDATES IN THE ELECTION FOR DCAD. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING, COUNSEL. AS THE MAYOR STATED THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS FOR COUNSEL TO APPROVE A RESOLUTION, CASTING VOTES IN THE DENTON CENTRAL APPRAISAL DISTRICT OR DCAD BOARD OF DIRECTORS ELECTION. THE TOWN IS ALLOTTED 42 VOTES AND MAY CAST ALL VOTES FOR ONE CANDIDATE OR MAY DISTRIBUTE THE VOTES AMONG ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES. VOTES MUST BE CAST FOR A PERSON THAT WAS NOMINATED AND IS NAMED ON THE BALLOT. THERE'S NO PROVISION FOR A RIGHT END CANDIDATE. THE TWO NOMINEES RECEIVING THE MOST VOTES WILL BE SEATED AS PLACE FOUR AND SEVEN ON THE DCAP BOARD OF DIRECTORS IN JANUARY OF 26. THE CANDIDATES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING ARE DEVON ENGLISH, MIKE HENNEFER, AND POMEKO, AND JORDAN VILLAREAL. THIS CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, MAYOR. >> WELL, I KNOW JORDAN VILLAREAL VERY WELL. HE ACTUALLY, HE WAS A CHIEF OF STAFF WITH A BIPARTISAN LEADER, REPRESENTATIVE I THINK IS HER NAME. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT, BUT SHE REPRESENTS LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, ON LAND ISSUES. I KNOW THAT HE'S VERY INVOLVED WITH THAT AND SO I DCAD DOESN'T NECESSARILY DO THAT, BUT HE'S A PROPONENT FOR MORE LOCAL CONTROL. I LOVE THAT ABOUT HIM. >> I'D LIKE TO ALSO GIVE MY SUPPORT TO JORDAN AS WELL. >> I'LL JUST REMEMBER, I THINK LAST YEAR THAT MIKE CAME HERE AND SPOKE AND HE WAS IMPRESSIVE AND REALLY WORKED HARD TO GET OUR VOTE AND I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM. I DO. I MEAN, I LIKE THE TWO CANDIDATES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY THE LISD AND DENTON COUNTY. I WOULD SPLIT IT UP THREE WAYS. I THINK THAT'S HOW I WOULD DO IT. >> I AGREE. 100%. YEAH, I LIKE MIKE. MIKE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAME AND TALKED TO US. THE OTHER I DON'T KNOW A WHOLE LOT ABOUT, BUT THREE WAYS, I THINK IT WAS REASONABLE. >> FORTY TWO VOTES? >> YES, SIR. >> MAYBE SPLIT THEM BETWEEN THE TWO. >> HOW ABOUT TWO SPLITTING THEM BETWEEN THOSE. JORDAN AND MIKE. >> BECAUSE I THINK HE'S IN COMPETITION HIGHLY WITH AMY. [02:40:03] MIKE'S GOT A LOT OF REPRESENTATION. THEN HE WOULD BE RUNNING AGAINST JORDAN VILLAREAL. HE'S A VERY BIPARTISAN INDIVIDUAL. HE'S BEEN A FORMER VICE CHAIR ON PNC, THE PNC COMMISSION IN DENTON, CIAC IN DENTON DEVELOPMENTAL CODE REVIEW FOR FOUR YEARS, CHIEF OF STAFF IN AUSTIN, DENTON ROTARY, VERY HIGHLY INVOLVED. TWO WAY OR THREE WAY, WE'RE STUCK AT AN IMPACT. >> YEAH. >> I'D SAY THREE WAY. >> WHY A THREE WAY. >> BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I WANT TO CAST MY VOTE. >> WELL, I MEAN, CAST MY VOTE ONE PERSON. BUT YEAH, BUT WHY THOSE OTHER CANDIDATES. IS THERE ANY REASON FOR THOSE OTHER CANDIDATES, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE THIRD CANDIDATE? >> I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THE CANDIDATES PERSONALLY. ALL I CAN GO ON IS, WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. IT'S NOT I NEED TO DIE ON THIS HILL, I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT I WOULD PREFER THE THREE, BUT I'M OKAY WITH TWO AS WELL. I MEAN, I'M STILL COMFORTABLE WITH THREE. THAT'S MY PREFERENCE. >> THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. >> CAN STILL MIKE MARSHAL. >> ALL RIGHT. I'LL DO IT, SO I'LL MOVE THAT WE SPLIT OUR VOTES BETWEEN MIKE HENNEFER, AND POMEKO, AND JORDAN VILLAREAL. >> SECOND. >> THREE WAYS. >> OH, SORRY. I WAS SIT IN THE THREE WAY THAT BRIAN HAD JUST MENTIONED THAT HE WAS IN FAVOR OF. >> CHRIS SECONDED, SO WE'RE READY, RIGHT? >> WE CAN HAVE MORE DELIBERATION IF NECESSARY, BUT THAT'S WE NEED MORE DELIBERATION. >> I'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A TWO WAY, REALLY. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO THAT WE'VE REALLY ESPECIALLY KNOW THE CANDIDATES. >> WHY ARE WE DOING THREE WAY WE DON'T KNOW THAT? >> WE DON'T KNOW THAT. >> WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE KNOW? >> WE'VE REALLY ONLY SPOKEN ABOUT JORDAN AND MIKE. >> I MEAN, I'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION. JORDAN VILLAREAL RAN FOR DCAD AND LOST. THAT'S WHY AND BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU GUYS WANT TO SUPPORT JORDAN AND HE'S IMPORTANT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HE GETS A SHARE OF THE VOTES. BUT THAT'S WHY I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF JUST SPLITTING THE TWO. >> BECAUSE HE LOST. >> BECAUSE HE LOST HE TRIED TO HE RAN FOR DCAD. THE VOTERS TURNED HIM DOWN. >> HE DIDN'T DO AN UGLY ELECTION. >> NO, NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. NOT AT ALL. I'M NOT ACCUSING HIM OF ANYTHING. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE SUPPORT HIM, BUT I WANT TO ALSO SUPPORT THE OTHER TWO CANDIDATES THAT ARE SUPPORTED BY ALL OF OUR PEERS. BUT I ALSO WANT TO RESPECT THAT YOU WANT TO SUPPORT JORDAN VILLAREAL WITH A THIRD OF OUR VOTES. THAT'S WHY I WANT TO DO THREE INSTEAD OF TWO. >> I'M ON BOARD WITH THREE BECAUSE OF THAT REASON. >> I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GIVE ALL OF OUR VOTES TO JORDAN VILLAREAL. >> WE ALREADY HAVE A MOTION ON THE TABLE. >> DID YOU FINISH THE MOTION? >> YES AND IT WAS SECOND. >> OH, I'M SORRY. THEN WE WERE GOING TO WE WERE GOING TO DISCUSS. TO MAKE ANOTHER MOTION? >> NO, WE DON'T. >> STATE THE MOTION AGAIN. >> TO SPLIT OUR VOTE THREE WAYS BETWEEN MIKE HENNEFER, AND POMEKO, AND JORDAN VILLAREAL. >> SECOND. >> TRACY FEEL, TAKE THE ROLE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> NAY. >>COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> ITEM M1 PASSES BY A VOTE OF FOUR TO ONE. [N. CLOSED MEETING] THE TIME IS NOW 8:44, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSE AND TO CLOSE ME PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTIONS 071, 072, 074, AND 087. GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND THE TIME IS NOW 10:50 [O. RECONVENE] P.M AND WE ARE RETURNING FROM CLOSED SESSION. THERE IS ONE ACTION TO BE MADE AS A RESULT OF THE CLOSED SESSION. WILL COUNSEL MAKE A MOTION? >> I MOVE TO AMEND [02:45:01] THE TOWN MANAGER'S COMPENSATION PACKAGE AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION. >> SECOND. >> TRACY, WILL YOU TAKE THE ROLE? >> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW. >> AYE. >> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL? >> AYE. >> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. >> AYE. >> COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER. >> AYE. >> TOWN MANAGER'S COMPENSATION PACKAGE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. THE TIME IS STILL 1050, AND OUR MEETING IS ADJOURNED. GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUND * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.