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[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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THERE ARE SO MANY OF THOSE PEOPLE ON EMERGENCY NEEDS.
THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING YOU THIS EVENING AND WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM TO BE EVIDENT AS THOSE WHO ARE DECISION MAKERS WOULD BE MAKING CRITICAL DECISIONS IMPACTING THE TOWN.
SO WE COMMIT THIS TIME TO YOU IN THIS MEETING, TO YOU IN YOUR NAME.
IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO JUST MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
[D. PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE HAVE A FEW COMMENT CARDS. DOES EVERYONE HAVE THEIR COMMENT CARDS IN THAT WANTS TO SPEAK TONIGHT? YOU CAN TURN THOSE IN TO TRACY IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE.SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ANY TOPIC THAT'S NOT ON A PUBLIC HEARING.
FRED VINCENT 3933 BARDO CIRCLE IN THE VINEYARD FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.
LET'S SEE. WHERE DO I GO? HERE. HAVE A PRESENTATION.
CAN YOU HELP ME? SURE. SO THERE ARE ALL YOURS.
RIGHT THERE ON YOUR VIDEO. SO YOU JUST DOUBLE CLICK ON THEM AND OPEN THEM UP. OKAY.
THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU COUNCIL. THANK YOU STAFF FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK.
30 YEARS. CONCRETE. CONSTRUCTION. CEMENT. ENVIRONMENTAL.
BIGGEST. BIGGEST COMPANIES ON THE PLANET. ONLY PRIDE WHAT GOD DOES THROUGH ME AND WITH ME.
TALKING TONIGHT ABOUT CURRENT ISSUES, SOLUTIONS WITH OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE EXPERIENCED A PEPPER CREEK CONSTRUCTION ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.
WATER FROM THAT CONSTRUCTION FLOWED DOWN TO DON HENRY'S RANCH.
FLOWED DOWN TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. A LOT OF THAT WATER HAD CEMENT, FLY ASH, CHEMICALS FROM THE CONSTRUCTION. FIRST THE FISH DIED. THEN THIS LONGHORN CATTLE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SEEN ALONG 24.99.
THEY DIED. TURNS OUT IT WAS THE CONSTRUCTION RUNOFF FROM PEPPER CREEK.
HIS NEW CATTLE BUT HE CAN'T USE HIS PONDS. HE HAS TO BRING IN FRESH WATER FROM ELSEWHERE.
IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE CLEANED UP. WE TURNED IT IN SEVERAL TIMES TO OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT.
THEY SITED THEM. THEY TOLD THEM THEY FIND THEM.
SOMEDAY SOON, WE'RE GOING TO NEED, HE'S GOING TO NEED SOME HELP CLEANING THAT UP, SOME WATER TESTING, SOME SOIL TESTING. OKAY, HOW DO I GET TO THE NEXT PICTURE HERE?
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OKAY, I THINK I GOT IT. I GOT IT. SO ONE OF THE SITUATIONS TODAY IS IT'S DRIVING TO THE STORE, AND I SAW THIS PLUME OF GRAY SMOKE, AND I PULLED OVER.AND BEING IN THE BUSINESS, I KNEW WHAT THAT WAS.
FLY ASH, CEMENT DUST. YOU CAN SEE THE CONVEYORS NOT PUTTING OUT ANYTHING.
IT'S COMING FROM THE CENTER OF THE PLANT. SOME INTERESTING PRODUCTS GOT SILICA, HEAVY METALS.
THE SILICA IS RAZOR SHARP. IF IT GETS INTO YOUR LUNGS, YOUR BLOODSTREAM.
SCARRING. CARBON FLY ASH IS EVEN WORSE. FLY ASH HAS ARSENIC.
SO THIS IS A WE TURN THIS IN OUR CALLED OUR ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT.
WHO IS OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY? CODE DIVISION WAS OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY.
THEY CALLED THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY, ALERTED THEM TO WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I THINK NEEDS TO BE RED TAGGED UNTIL WE FIND THE WHAT'S GOING ON ITS POND, THEIR AGRICULTURE.
IT'S OKAY TO HAVE A STOCKED POND, RESIDENTIAL, NO FENCE, NO WARNING.
KIDS COULD FALL IN, THEIR PETS COULD FALL IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW, I THINK THIS IS OUT OF CONTROL.
I THINK IT'S UNREGULATED. I THINK IT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND STOPPED UNTIL WE GET A HANDLE ON IT.
AND THEN FOR THE FUTURE. TIME IS UP. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
I'LL CALL THAT TRACY. I'LL LET HIM KNOW. I WAS GOING TO.
YEAH, I WAS GOING TO. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. I'LL LEAVE THAT UP TO ME.
AND I NEED TO NEED TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT.
THIS PARTICULAR BATCH LOCATION HAS MET ALL APPLICABLE LOCAL AND STATE REGULATIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT PUBLIC STATEMENT. THANK YOU.
JAMES, JUST REAL QUICK ON THAT. THERE WAS AN ISSUE.
WAS THERE AN ISSUE WITH THE DUST SPECIFICALLY THAT WAS ADDRESSED? I'LL LET TOMMY SPEAK TO THAT. I KNOW THAT WE WENT OUT THERE TODAY AND MADE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO KEEP THE THE DUST DOWN, BUT NOTHING THAT WE INSPECTORS SAW.
IT WOULD INDICATE THAT THERE WASN'T ENOUGH DUST SUPPRESSION.
TOMMY, DO WE KNOW HOW MUCH LONGER THAT THAT IS GOING TO BE IN OPERATION? I THINK HEARING BACK FROM TOLL BROTHERS EITHER AT THE END OF THIS WEEK OR END OF NEXT WEEK, AND THEY SHOULD BE DONE WITH THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE THEY NEED FOR THOSE INITIAL PORES.
OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MENTION TO FRED ALSO THAT TOLL BROTHERS IS AWARE OF YOUR CONCERN, AND I WAS TOLD THAT THERE'S NO FLY ASH AS PART OF THIS PARTICULAR CONCRETE OPERATION.
THAT'S. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. THANKS. THANK YOU.
OKAY. WE HAVE RANDY RIVERA. RIVERA. SORRY, RANDY.
I KNOW YOUR LAST NAME, MISPRONOUNCED IT. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
VERY FINE. ALL RIGHT. RANDY RIVERA, PLANNER WITH MCADAMS, 4400 STATE HIGHWAY 121.
I'M NOT HERE ON MY USUAL SEQUENCE OF AGENDA ITEM, BUT I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF EDEN RANCH.
I KNOW IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR ABOUT A YEAR. BUT WE'VE MET WITH THE OWNER AND ARE WORKING THROUGH SOME THINGS TO BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD, HOPEFULLY SEPTEMBER 8TH FOR P&Z AND SEPTEMBER 15TH FOR COUNCIL.
SO WE'RE VERY, VERY EXCITED TO BE ON THIS PROJECT TEAM.
SO THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE ARE WORKING WITH THE OWNER ON.
AND ONE OF THOSE IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION.
WE WOULD LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK IN FRONT OF THE ECC TO PRESENT THESE CHANGES, THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY'VE GIVEN OUR OWNER AND BE ABLE TO LET THEM LOOK AT IT ONE MORE TIME BEFORE WE COME BACK AND OR BEFORE WE GO TO P&Z AND COUNCIL IN SEPTEMBER.
SO I THINK THIS IS SOMEWHAT OF A UNIQUE REQUEST.
WE THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN CONSIDERING.
BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS HAS SO MANY DIFFERENT FACETS.
THERE'S A BIG VISION HERE WITH REGENERATIVE FARMING AND MIXING THE CONSERVATION CLUSTER AG TOGETHER,
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AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO DISCUSS. AND WE WOULD WE'VE CHANGED SOME OF THE OPEN SPACE FEATURES AND SOME OF THE DEFINITIONS.AND I THINK IT'S WORTHY OF RECONSIDERATION IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.
OKAY. THANK YOU RANDY. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE MIKE BOSWELL.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MIKE BOSWELL, TOLL BROTHERS, 2665 VIRGINIA PARKWAY, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 75022. OVER THE LAST, I GUESS, 96 HOURS, WE WERE MADE AWARE THAT THE COMMUNITY HAD HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT OUR SITE TOWN LAKE OVER IN WEST SIDE OF TOWN. REACHING OUT TO A FEW PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO I'M REALLY JUST GOING TO GO THROUGH A READ STATEMENT HERE.
WE ARE MONITORING THE FACEBOOK CHAT RELATED TO THE TEMPORARY, AND I UNDERSCORE THAT WORD TEMPORARY BADGE PLANT AT TOWN LAKE, AS ADVERTISED AS A TEMPORARY BATCHING FACILITY FOR TOWN LAKE FIVE AND SIX PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 98, SECTION 98-972 BATCH PLANT PERMIT. BP2502291 WAS ISSUED WITHOUT VARIANCES.
WE WILL BE POURED OUT AT THE END OF THIS WEEK.
THAT THIS BEING THE WEEK OF AUGUST THE 4TH, WE ADDRESSED THE TEMPORARY BATCH PLANT POINTEDLY IN OUR [INAUDIBLE] APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT, ALLOWING IT AS A TEMPORARY USE ONLY. WE WILL NOT BE USING THIS PLANT TO POUR OUR DRIVEWAYS FOUNDATIONS.
RATHER, THOSE WOULD BE BATCHED IN AT THE TIME THAT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THEM.
I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT WE ARE IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN AND CCEQ STANDARDS.
OUR TOWN INSPECTOR WAS OUT THERE LAST WEEK. AS MR. CHILDERS POINTED OUT. AND THEN AGAIN, YOUR CHIEF INSPECTOR WAS OUT THERE TODAY LOOKING AT AS WELL.
AND HE ALSO CHECKED IT BECAUSE WE HAD A RAIN EVENT.
WITH THAT SAID THE PLANT ITSELF IS PERMITTED UNDER LH LACEY UNDER TCQ PERMIT NUMBER 53037L001 AND AS REGULATED ENTITY NUMBER RN102738788, THE PLANT IS PERMITTED AS A BATCH FACILITY.
SO IT'S KIND OF A PACKAGED APPLICATION. THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT THIS TO THE TCQ.
AND IT ALSO INCLUDES THE ELECTRIC POWER PLANT.
THAT'S A 3 TO 400 HORSEPOWER MOTOR. IT IS A TIER ONE OR TIER TWO EPA MOTOR.
SO THESE PLANTS TEND TO AGE, BUT THEY AGE AS A PACKAGE GOING THROUGH.
WE TRY TO USE THEM TO THEIR EXTENDED LIFE AS POSSIBLE.
BUT THAT PERMIT IS RENEWED EACH YEAR AND THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.
AS COAL PLANTS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN TEXAS HAVE BEEN SHUT DOWN THAT HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE SCARCE.
BUT WITH THAT SAID, WE DON'T USE THAT MUCH MORE.
WE USE THE TYPE ONE L, WHICH HAS A LOWER CARBON FOOTPRINT.
IT ALSO DOES THAT BY USING WATER INSTEAD OF HAULING IT ACROSS YOUR ROADS.
ALSO, IT ALLOWS US TO GET IN AND FINISH FASTER WHERE WE'RE NOT AT THE, YOU KNOW, THE DEMANDS OF THE EBBS AND FLOWS OF THOSE PLANTS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HOPE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND HOPE THIS HELPS. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS YOU ALL NEED TO MAKE ON THAT? I THINK IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE WE CLOSE IT? OKAY. THAT'S IT. WE'RE MOVING ON. ALL RIGHT. JAMES, YOU HAVE.
WELL, I'M SKIPPING TO YOU BEFORE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[E. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY WANT TO MAKE? GO FOR IT.OKAY. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK ONE THIS WEEKEND.
OUR OPENING HOURS ARE FRIDAY NIGHT FROM 5 TO 7.
THAT'S THE EARLY BIRD SALE WITH $5 ADMISSION.
AND THEN SATURDAY IS FROM 11 TILL FIVE AND SUNDAY IS FROM ONE TILL FOUR, I THINK.
SO I DO HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE. IT'S AN AMAZING COMMUNITY EVENT.
THE BOOKS ARE THE BEST, WE HAVE TONS OF THEM AND WE NEED YOUR HELP MOVING THEM OUT.
SO COME ON. ANYBODY ELSE? THAT'S IT. OKAY, WELL, I HAVE A COUPLE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. OPEN HOUSE WAS JULY 29TH.
IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY THAT PARTICIPATED IN DOING THE BOOTHS FOR THAT.
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AND YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE TO APPLY FOR A BOARD AND COMMISSION IF YOU'D LIKE TO AT AND THEN THE INTERVIEWS WILL BE IN SEPTEMBER AND THEN SCHOOL STARTS AUGUST 7TH IF I BELIEVE.IS THAT RIGHT. THAT'S THIS WEEK. SO IS IT NEXT WEEK? I HAD IT ON AUGUST 7TH. MY OFF. WELL I'M OFF A COUPLE OF ABOUT A WEEK.
I'M AHEAD OF IT. IT'S NEXT WEEK, SO JUST WATCH YOUR SCHOOL CROSSINGS WHEN THAT STARTS.
[F. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]
THANK YOU MAYOR. WE HAVE THREE UPDATES. I'M GOING TO CALL UP MELODY EBY UP FIRST TO GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATES.GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO, AS JAMES MENTIONED, I DO HAVE TWO QUICK ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT UPDATES FOR YOU THIS EVENING.
WE WILL HAVE THREE EXPERT PANELISTS FROM DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS TO DISCUSS REAL WORLD APPLICATIONS OF AI, SHARE PRACTICAL TOOLS AND STRATEGIES, AND ADDRESS THE CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES OF INTEGRATING AI INTO THE WORKPLACE.
THE WORKSHOP WILL BE HELD HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS THIS WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 6TH FROM 9 TO 11 A.M.
AND IS FREE AND OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. SO WE HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL THERE.
AND MY SECOND UPDATE I HAVE FOR YOU TONIGHT IS OUR 2025 RETAIL AND RESTAURANT SURVEY.
WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT STORES AND RESTAURANTS PEOPLE WANT TO SEE IN FLOWER MOUND.
SO THE SURVEY IS OPEN TO NOT ONLY RESIDENTS BUT THOSE WHO WORK IN THE TOWN AS WELL.
THE SURVEY IS CONDUCTED TYPICALLY ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS, AND WE USE THE SURVEY RESULTS TO INCORPORATE INTO OUR DEPARTMENT'S RECRUITMENT EFFORTS TO TARGET THE MOST REQUESTED BUSINESSES. THE SURVEY IS OPEN FOR THE ENTIRE MONTH OF AUGUST AND CAN BE TAKEN AT QR CODE PRESENTED BEFORE YOU. AND WE WILL COME BACK AND REPORT ON THOSE RESULTS SOMETIME IN EARLY FALL, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE TOP 20 MOST REQUESTED RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. THANKS, MELODY.
AND LEXIN IS GOING TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON A PILOT OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE WITH SOME STREET LIGHTING HERE IN TOWN, SO SET IT UP FOR LEXIN. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. SO RELATIVELY RECENTLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DARK SKY OR HOW OUR LIGHTING COMPARES WITH DARK SKY LIGHTING AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THAT.
AND THEN WE HAD TALKED SOME ABOUT MAKING CHANGES TO STREETLIGHTS.
AND AT THE TIME, THE COUNCIL KIND OF HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW WILL THAT LOOK ESTHETICALLY, IF WE'RE JUST CHANGING LIGHTS KIND OF AS THEY BURN OUT, BUT YOU KNOW, SO MAYBE IT'LL BE A ONE OFF OR WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE TO.
WHAT WOULD BE THE COST OR WHAT WOULD HOW WOULD IT BE IF WE WERE TRYING TO REPLACE LARGER SECTIONS, WHETHER IT BE A STREET AT A TIME, A NEIGHBORHOOD LARGER PART OF TOWN? AND SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH ONCOR AND COSERV TO TRY TO GATHER MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT, AND ALSO JUST TO LOOK AT WHETHER THERE MIGHT BE SOME KIND OF A PILOT OPPORTUNITY.
AND SO WE REACHED OUT TO BOTH OF THEM AND IDENTIFIED AN OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WOULD THAT IF WE WENT WITH THE 3000 KELVIN LIGHTS, IT WOULD BE REPLACING THOSE EXISTING LIGHT FIXTURES.
AND SO WE DID ONE WITH COSERV AND ONE WITH ONCOR JUST BECAUSE OF THE TYPE OF FIXTURES THAT WERE IN THE TWO IDENTIFIED NEIGHBORHOODS, THE ONE THAT ENCORE SERVED WOULD BE CONSIDERABLY CHEAPER.
AND SO THAT WOULD GIVE KIND OF AN EXAMPLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THE COUNCIL COULD VISIT ALSO TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THOSE RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT THEY FELT ABOUT IT. RIGHT NOW, THOSE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD HAS 4000 KELVIN STREET LIGHTS.
SO LITTLE BRIGHTER. NOT QUITE AS, I DON'T KNOW, BRIGHTS.
THE RIGHT WORD. A LITTLE BIT WIDER, I GUESS. NOT AS WARM A LIGHT.
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AND SO JUST WANTED TO SUGGEST THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY, WE CAN.UNFORTUNATELY, THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE AN HOA, SO WE'LL JUST BE TRYING TO DO DIRECT OUTREACH TO THE RESIDENTS THERE TO KIND OF LET THEM KNOW WHAT'S PROPOSED, GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FEEDBACK.
BUT JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT THIS.
GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY FEEDBACK.
MAKE SURE THIS IS IN LINE WITH YOUR VISION FOR HOW WE WOULD PROCEED IN THIS WAY.
I LIKE IT, I THINK AS LONG AS WE NOTIFY THE RESIDENTS, MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, KEPT IN THE DARK, SO TO SPEAK. SORRY. IT JUST CAME OUT. AND I REALIZED AS I WAS SAYING IT, IT WAS SO SUPER CORNY.
BUT I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHY IS THERE SUCH A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN THE COST OF THOSE FIXTURES? IT HAS TO DO WITH JUST THE TYPE OF FIXTURE THAT'S BEING USED AND WHETHER THEY CAN JUST USE, LIKE, THE EXISTING POLES AND JUST MODIFY A FIXTURE OR IF THEY HAVE TO REALLY SWITCH EVERYTHING OUT.
AND SO IT WAS JUST A DIFFERENT COST. SO HERE IT TALKS ABOUT THE EXISTING FIXTURES IN WINDSOR PARK FOR THE COST EVERYONE WOULD BE REPLACED. AND SO FOR THAT ONE I BELIEVE IT WAS IT WAS THE WHOLE THING.
AS WE CONTINUE TO DECIDE WHETHER WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THIS OUT FOR THE REST OF TOWN, DO WE HAVE AN INVENTORY OF HOW MANY FIXTURES ARE ABLE TO BE MINIMALLY CHANGED VERSUS HOW MANY ARE COMPLETE? REHAB REPLACE? I WOULD KIND OF LIKE TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I LIKE PILOTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I NEED TO KNOW THE HOW MUCH. AND I WANT TO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE AWARE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY NO, WE DON'T HAVE IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT SO MUCH US.
BECAUSE WE HAD REACHED OUT TO ACTUALLY TO COSERV TO FIND OUT HEY, COULD YOU GIVE US KIND OF AN ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT WOULD BE IF WE WANTED TO REPLACE ALL OF OUR LIGHT FIXTURES THAT ARE WITH CONSERVE AND THE TOWN? AND THEY HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD ACTUALLY WE'D HAVE TO DO A STUDY.
AND THEN WE COULD GIVE YOU THE, THE HARD NUMBERS.
BUT SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO BE ABLE TO COME WITH YOU, COME TO YOU WITH, HEY, THIS IS EXACTLY HOW MANY OF THESE FIXTURES.
SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE COST IS GOING TO BE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE TAKING STEPS MOVING FORWARD SO THAT JUST TO ENSURE WE'RE MOVING FORWARD IN A DIRECTION THAT EVERYBODY AGREES WITH AND APPRECIATES. THANK YOU, I APPRECIATE IT.
SO THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS IF WE DO THIS AND WE LOVE IT AND EVERYBODY WANTS IT, THEN WE REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE, AND IT COULD BE COST PROHIBITIVE FOR US TO DO THAT AS A TOWN.
AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY CONCERN I HAVE IS NOT BEING ABLE TO QUANTIFY IF THIS IS A SUCCESS, THEN WHAT'S NEXT? SO I'D KIND OF LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, IF THIS DOES, IF THE RESIDENTS IN CREEKWOOD ARE, YOU KNOW, GOOD WITH THIS PROJECT WE GO FORWARD, WE EXECUTE, EVERYONE LOVES IT.
SO I WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. THEN WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? BECAUSE I THINK BEFORE WE MAKE A PLAN TO DO SOMETHING OR TO IMPLEMENT SOMETHING, I THINK I'D, I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THAT COST IS GOING TO BE BEFORE WE COMMIT TO ANYTHING.
I WOULD ASSUME THAT WITH ANYTHING MOVING FORWARD, IT'S GOING TO BE INCREMENTAL.
MAYBE THE ONE YOU RUN IN TO IS THEY ALL HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE POLES REPLACED.
AND SO IT ENDS UP ONLY BEING ONE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT YEAR.
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THIS WOULD JUST BE OVER TIME THAT WE WOULD BE WORKING TOWARD IT.AND AGAIN, IF IT'S, IF THAT'S SOMETHING COUNCIL IS INTERESTED IN, I CAN, YOU KNOW, TALK WITH OUR OTHER STAFF THAT THAT WORK WITH LIGHTING AND BRING RECOMMENDATIONS TO YOU AS TO KIND OF THE WHAT THAT PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE.
AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU IDENTIFY THE DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS EACH YEAR.
AND LIKE I SAID, THAT WOULD BE MY INITIAL THOUGHT IS JUST TO IDENTIFY AN AMOUNT OF MONEY PER YEAR THAT YOU WANT TO PUT TOWARD IT AND JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THIS ISN'T GOING TO BE A NEXT YEAR.
WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE EVERY FIXTURE IN TOWN BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO BE REALISTIC.
THAT MAKES SENSE. LIKE THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IS SET BUDGET FOR EACH YEAR. OKAY. SO IN NEIGHBORHOODS WITH HIGHWAYS, WHAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY LEVEL? BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN WE HAD SOME POLL ISSUES, WE, OURS WERE IN TERRIBLE DISREPAIR, THEY NEEDED TO BE PAINTED.
WE HAD TO PAY FOR IT. SO IS THERE ANY LEVEL OF RESPONSIBILITY THERE FOR THIS KIND OF REPLACEMENT? IT WOULD POTENTIALLY DEPEND ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
BUT IF IT'S JUST SOMETHING WHERE YOU KNOW, IT'S THE TOWN AND OR THE UTILITY PROVIDER.
I DON'T I'M NOT I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR PARTICULAR SITUATION.
I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE. IT'S JUST BECAUSE FOR ESTHETIC REASONS, Y'ALL WANTED TO IMPROVE IT.
AND THE UTILITY PROVIDER WAS LIKE, WELL, IT STILL WORKS.
IT'S NOT REQUIRED. SO THEY DIDN'T OFFER TO. SO THE FUNNY THING, JUST AS AN ASIDE, IS THAT WE AGREED WE WOULD PAY FOR IT, AND THEY ACCIDENTALLY DID THE NEIGHBORHOOD ACROSS THE STREET.
SO THEY GOT THEIR FREE POLES PAINTED. WE STILL PAID FOR OURS.
SO I THINK THAT AS LONG AS WE HAVE STANDARDS IN PLACE, LIGHTS DON'T LAST FOREVER, THEY'LL EVENTUALLY COME UP TO STANDARD AS WE GO THROUGH THAT REPLACEMENT LIFECYCLE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO GET OUT IN FRONT OF IT.
IT'LL JUST SORT OF HAPPEN ON ITS OWN. BUT I THINK THIS ESTATES AT CREEKWOOD BEING A LOW HANGING FRUIT, VERY LOW COST. GREAT. I WANT TO GO LOOK AT IT AHEAD OF TIME AND THEN SEE THE AFTER.
DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHEN THIS MIGHT TAKE PLACE? OR CAN YOU SHARE THAT WITH US WHEN WE FIND OUT? YES, I CAN DEFINITELY SHARE IT WITH YOU.
SO I THINK YOU HAVE SOME TIME. GREAT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LEXIN. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR, FOR THE FOR THE LAST PRESENTATION, LET ME ASK.
MANNY PALACIOS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, TO COME UP.
AND AS HE SET UP THE PRESENTATION, I'LL JUST GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, BECAUSE THIS IS ACTUALLY AN ITEM THAT I REQUESTED WE PRESENT OVER THE COURSE OF SEVERAL MONTHS OR SEVERAL YEARS. THERE'S SEVERAL ITEMS TIED TO OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT COMES BEFORE YOU FOR APPROVAL ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA.
AND PEOPLE WHO PAY ATTENTION MIGHT ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT'S THE BIG PICTURE? WHAT'S THE LONG TERM PLAN? AND SO MANNY HAS A BRIEF PRESENTATION, TALKS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND GIVES YOU A SENSE OF WHAT ALL THIS INVESTMENT IS GOING TOWARDS AND ULTIMATELY WHAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE.
SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MANNY. MAYOR.
COUNCIL. MANNY PALACIOS, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS OPERATIONS.
I WANT TO START OFF KIND OF GIVE YOU AN INTRODUCTION. I'M GOING TO KIND OF FOCUS ON WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OR CURRENT CONDITIONS OR STATUS, OUR OPERATIONAL CHALLENGES, A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ASSET MANAGEMENT, OUR SECURITY AND SUPERVISORY CONTROL AND DATA ACQUISITION, WHICH IS SCADA AND OUR UPCOMING CIP PROJECTS.
WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS OUR CURRENT WASTEWATER PLANT.
SO WE ARE CURRENTLY PERMITTED FOR 8.7 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
OUR DAILY AVERAGE FLOW IS 5 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, AND OUR PEAK IS 33 MILLION MGD.
THIS IS A CONVENTIONAL PLANT WITH THREE SEQUENCING BATCH REACTORS, WHICH IS OUR SBR, OUR UTILITY OPERATORS, OUR STAFF, THEY MANAGE THE DRINKING WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM AND OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, ALL WITHIN THE OPERATIONS CENTER. SO THIS IS KIND OF NOT TYPICAL IN THE INDUSTRY.
WE DID A 2.2 BILLION GALLONS OF WASTEWATER COLLECTED AND TREATED IN 2024.
THIS PRODUCED OVER 18,000YD³ OF BIOSOLIDS, THE EQUIVALENT OF ABOUT 60 RAILCARS.
AND ALSO, I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR WE RECEIVED THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OF THE YEAR AWARD, AND THIS WAS A CATEGORY NUMBER TWO, WHICH WAS A 15 MILLION GALLONS OR UNDER.
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SO I'M KIND OF PROUD OF MY STAFF ABOUT THAT AND EVERYBODY ELSE.SO. KIND OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'RE SEEING IS OF COURSE, WE HAVE A AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.
OUR PLAN WAS BUILT BACK IN 1973. IT'S OVER 50 YEARS, 50 YEARS OLD.
WE'RE HAVING, YOU KNOW, RISING OPERATIONAL COSTS, HIGHER EXPENSES FOR REPAIRS AND REPLACEMENTS.
AND AGAIN, THE WORKFORCE CHALLENGES SHORTAGE OF SKILLED OPERATORS AND MECHANICS.
I KIND OF PUT SOME PICTURES UP HERE. JUST KIND OF SHOW YOU WHAT THE MECHANICS GO THROUGH.
TOP RIGHT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS A PUMP THAT OUT OF OUR HEADWORKS, THEY'RE PRETTY BIG.
SO EVERY TIME THERE'S REPAIR NEEDED, THEY HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUT, YOU KNOW, FOCUS ON THEM.
IT TAKES ABOUT WEEKS AND WEEKS TO REPAIR THEM AND PUT THEM BACK IN, YOU KNOW, TO OPERATE.
DOWN ON THE BOTTOM, THERE'S AN EXISTING PUMP OUT OF SERVICE.
THIS ONE WAS THE ONE THAT YOU. COUNCIL APPROVED LAST COUNCIL THAT THE EMERGENCY PO.
THIS RIGHT HERE, THE REPAIR COST WAS LIKE 81,000.
NOW COMPARED TO REPLACEMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 170,000.
SO WE CAN, WE DID OUR OWN RESEARCH AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S GO AHEAD AND REPAIR IT. THAT WAY, EVEN THOUGH WE CAN GET A WARRANTY, A GOOD WARRANTY FOR A FEW MORE YEARS THAT'S AN EXAMPLE.
AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT. YOU KNOW, OUR STAFF BEEN KIND OF WORKING OVERTIME.
BUT THE GOOD THING IS WE HAVE A DESIGN AND THEY'RE IN PRODUCTION.
YOU WILL SEE THIS ITEM COMING UP HOPEFULLY SOON FOR A PTA REHAB.
THIS WILL BE FOR THE INSTALLATION OF THE SCREENS.
THE LAST PICTURES KIND OF SHOW YOU AN EXAMPLE OF A BLOWER. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE A, I WANT TO SAY, AT LEAST 20 YEAR OLD BLOWER, BUT THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE WHERE THAT ONE WILL BE BEING REBUILT.
ASSET MANAGEMENT. THIS IS REALLY CRITICAL FOR US.
WE DID AN ASSET MANAGEMENT ASSESSMENT RECENTLY WHICH CONDUCTED.
AND WE FOUND THAT THE UTILITY OPERATIONS HAS A WELL DEVELOPED PREVENTIVE MAINTENANCE PROGRAM.
THE ASSESSMENT RECOMMENDED MOVING THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WORK ORDER SYSTEM TO CITY WORKS.
THIS IS AN ONGOING PROJECT. THIS ALLOWS FOR IMPROVED TRACKING OF MAINTENANCE HISTORY, HELPS TO BETTER IDENTIFY POTENTIAL ISSUES EARLY, OPTIMIZE ASSET LIFECYCLES, REDUCE REPAIR COSTS, AND PLAN FOR FUTURE CAPITAL EXPENSES.
CURRENTLY, WE'RE IMPROVING THE OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT GIS ASSET DATABASE.
I KIND OF WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS IS A WORK IN PROGRESS.
IF YOU SEE THE BOTTOM PICTURE, THAT'S OUR WASTEWATER PLANT FACILITY.
AND YOU SEE THAT THE DOTS THERE, THOSE ARE WHERE WE ARE IDENTIFYING EVERY STRUCTURE IN OUR PLANT, IN OUR GIS. AND SO BASICALLY WHAT THAT WHAT THAT MEANS IS EVERY TIME THERE'S A WORK ORDER OR SOME KIND OF MAINTENANCE, THE GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO GO OUT THERE, CLICK ON THAT ASSET, PUT ALL THEIR WORK ORDER, PUT THE MAINTENANCE HISTORY ON IT.
SO THAT WAY WE'RE KEEPING BETTER TRACK OF THE ACTUALLY OF EVERY PUMP, EVERY MINUTE THAT WE DO.
SO OUR MAINTENANCE GUYS, THEY GO OUT THERE TO THE ACTUAL FACILITY, THE ASSET, THEY WILL PULL UP THE THE MAP ON THEIR IPAD, CLICK ON THAT ASSET AND ALL THAT WORK JUST POPS UP AND THEY JUST PUT IN ALL THE INFORMATION AND PUTS INTO THE SYSTEM AND THAT'S IT.
SO THIS IS KIND OF AN EXAMPLE OF HOW WE'RE KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY.
OUR SECURITY AND ASSET IMPROVEMENT. SO RISK AND RESILIENCE ASSESSMENT COMPLETED IN 2020.
CURRENTLY UPDATING THE CURRENT ASSESSMENT FOR THE US ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY REQUIREMENTS, WHICH IS EVERY FIVE YEARS. SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS ARE ONGOING.
AND THEN PART OF THAT ASSESSMENT, IT ALSO CREATED A SCANNER AND HUMAN MACHINE INTERFACE PROGRAMING ASSESSMENT WAS CONDUCTED LAST YEAR IN 2020 FOR THIS ASSESSMENT KIND OF YOU KNOW THE UPGRADE PROJECT IS IN PROGRESS.
SO I DON'T WANT TO ELABORATE MORE BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF CONFIDENTIAL ON SECURITY WISE.
[00:35:04]
THESE PROJECTS ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT AND MASTER PLAN AND IN THE CIP PROJECT LIST.WE GOT ABOUT TEN PROJECTS ON OUR MASTER PLAN.
THE FIRST ONE, EFFLUENT FILTER REHAB. THAT ONE IS HAS BEEN DESIGNED.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DID IT LAST LAST WEEK. AND WE ARE WAITING FOR THE BID RESULTS.
YOU'LL SEE THAT SOON. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME CONSTRUCTION PLANS. YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE IT, HOPEFULLY A COUPLE OF MONTHS. THE THIRD PROJECT IS OUR FINAL CLARIFIER NUMBER THREE AND RAS PUMP REHAB.
THAT'S JUST THE REHAB OF OUR PUMPS AND CLASSIFIERS.
BLOWER BUILDING NUMBER TWO. THAT'S ANOTHER REHAB OF THAT BUILDING WITH THE BLOWERS.
ELECTRICAL AND AUXILIARY GENERATION. THAT'S KIND OF PUTTING A BACKUP POWER TO OUR PLANT.
THE SBR CONVERSION, PEAK FLOW, ADDITIONAL TREATMENT.
IF THEY INCREASE, THEN THAT'S THE NEED THAT WE NEED TO EXPAND.
SO THAT'S WHAT THE WHOLE THIS PROJECT IS ABOUT.
ODOR CONTROL REHAB, AGAIN THIS IS A REHAB. IF YOU KNOW OUR BOTTLE FILTERS ARE ABOUT 20 YEARS OLD.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE YOU'LL SEE THAT COMING UP FOR REHAB.
DRYER FACILITY FOR CLASS-A SOLIDS. THAT'S A MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN.
SO THIS IS A MAY OR MAY NOT IN THE FUTURE. CONVERGENCE OF BIOLOGICAL PHOSPHORUS REMOVAL, SAME THING HERE, RIGHT NOW TCQ WE DON'T HAVE A LIMIT ON OUR PERMIT FOR THIS.
IF TCQ COMES THEY WANT TO PUT A LIMIT ON THIS THEN THIS MAY THIS PROJECT MAY OR MAY HAPPEN SOON.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, THE SUPPORT FACILITIES AND SITE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO WITH THAT, THAT'S ALL I HAVE AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
SO MANY. CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE FOUR? SO THIS DAMAGED SCREEN AS I RECALL IT'S CUSTOM. IT'S GERMAN. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO GET PARTS FOR.
IS THAT RIGHT? YES, SIR. SO AS WE LOOK TO REPLACE IT, ARE WE LOOKING FOR A DOMESTIC PRODUCER? MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE STANDARDIZED AND EASIER TO MAINTAIN OVER ITS LIFESPAN? YES, SIR. THAT'S ONE THING THAT I LOOKED AT FOR REPLACEMENT, WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY ORDERED.
IT IS MADE HERE IN THE US. IT'S HERE AND THE PARTS ARE MADE HERE IN THE US.
THAT'S ONE THING THAT WE WANTED. WE DIDN'T WANT TO DEAL WITH FOREIGN PARTS BECAUSE AS YOU KNOW, LIKE WE MENTIONED, IT WAS JUST TO GET REPAIR PARTS.
WE HAVE TO SHIP THEM ALL THE WAY FROM GERMANY.
BUT. YES, SIR, THIS IS GOING TO BE A US CUSTOM MADE SCREENS.
WELL-DESERVED. OH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IF ANYBODY DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE, I JUST WANTED TO SAY JUST THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. I WANTED THEM TO TO ELABORATE ON THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND WHAT I CAN ASSURE YOU IS ON THAT LAST LIST WITH THOSE LIST OF PROJECTS, I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT MANNY TOUCHED ON SOME OF THOSE MAY NOT BE REQUIRED BASED ON OTHER FACTORS, BUT THESE ARE NOT THINGS THAT YOU CAN ANTICIPATE NECESSARILY IN THE NEXT YEAR OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
THESE ARE GOING TO BE PROJECTS, THEY'RE GOING TO BE SPENT OVER TIME.
BUT AGAIN, I PAY ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE 80,000 HERE, 160 HERE.
IT STARTS PILING UP. SO I JUST WANTED TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT TO NOT ONLY YOU AS THE COUNCIL, BUT THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT'S THE BIGGER PICTURE AND HOW THIS COMES TOGETHER.
SO I APPRECIATE MANNY PUTTING THAT TOGETHER TODAY. YEAH.
AND IT'S PRETTY AMAZING WHAT THEY DO OUT THERE.
OKAY, SO WE WILL GO ON TO. YOU'RE ALL DONE. RIGHT, JAMES? YOUR PART. OKAY. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS, I BELIEVE NO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.
[G. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]
I'M SKIPPING AROUND. WHO HAS ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? I HAVE ONE TONIGHT, SO I WAS ABLE TO SPEND SOME TIME WITH OUR FRIENDS AT 911 THIS MORNING, AND IT MADE ME REMEMBER THAT IT HAS BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE INVITED THEM HERE TO COUNCIL TO SPEAK EITHER AT A WORK SESSION OR AT A MEETING, JUST TO GIVE US AN UPDATE. SO I'D LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE INVITE THEM SOMETIME WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS,[00:40:05]
PROBABLY WHEN THEY'RE DONE WITH THEIR BUDGET SEASON, WHICH WILL BE AUGUST SEPTEMBER. BUT I THINK GREG VALENTINE WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY.APPRECIATE THAT TO UPDATE US. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.
AND I HAVE ONE AS WELL ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, ESPECIALLY THE FAR WEST.
THE CELL PHONE RECEPTION IS PRETTY POOR AND THAT'S ACROSS PRETTY MUCH ALL CARRIERS.
I TALKED WITH TOMMY ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, AND WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF WE HAVE A WORK SESSION ITEM WHERE WE COULD UNDERSTAND, EITHER FROM STAFF OR SOME OF THE CELL PROVIDERS, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO ADD MORE ANTENNAS OUT WEST.
ALL RIGHT. NOTED. SO LOOKING LOOKING AT BOTH, THAT IS CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN COORDINATE.
WE'LL REACH OUT TO GREG AND THE TEAM OVER AT DENCO 911.
AND ALONG THOSE LINES JUST LOOK AND SEE AT THEIR AVAILABILITY.
ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. THANK YOU ALL.
[H. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE AUGUST 18TH. THAT'LL BE OUR REGULAR MEETING.
AND THEN AUGUST 21ST WILL BE OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A FUN ONE. EVERYBODY CAN MAKE IT SO I CAN MAKE IT.
I'LL BE REMOTE FOR BOTH. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOOD.
SO IF YOU'RE REMOTE, YOU'LL AND I, AND MAYOR, I FEEL TERRIBLE ABOUT BREAKING YOUR STREAK.
I APOLOGIZE AGAIN. THAT MEETING THAT YOU MISSED.
AND YOU DEFINITELY TOOK RESPONSIBILITY. SO I CAN'T FAULT YOU FOR THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA NEVER LIVE THAT DOWN. ALL RIGHT.
[I. CONSENT ITEM(S)]
I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS I.1 THROUGH I.8 AS PRESENTED.SECOND. OKAY, TRACY, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE THE ROLL.
COUNCILMEMBER DREW. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.
AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.
AYE. COUNCILMEMBER WARNER. AYE. OKAY. CONSENT ITEMS I.1 THROUGH 8 PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
[J.1. ZPD25-0004 - Churchill Crossinq PD Amendment - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD25-0004 — Churchill Crossing PD Amendment) to amend Planned Development No. 28 (PD-28) with Retail District-2 uses to modify development standards related to the building design guidelines. The property is generally located at the southwest corner of Long Prairie Road and Churchill Drive. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its July 28, 2025, meeting.)]
THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER AN ORDINANCE FOR REZONING TO AMEND THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH RETAIL DISTRICT-TWO USES TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. AND SO IF YOU WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN FILL OUT A COMMENT CARD DURING THE PUBLIC OPEN PUBLIC HEARING.HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW. THIS IS WAS PREVIOUSLY UTILIZED AS A REGIONS BANK.
AND SO THE LAND USE FOR THAT PROPERTY IS RETAIL AND THE ZONING IS PD-28 WITH RETAIL-TWO USES.
HERE IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE. SO JUST WANTED FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THAT REALLY NONE OF THE NON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES SURROUNDING THIS WERE DEVELOPED UNDER THESE PD STANDARDS.
SO NOT EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT WE'RE UTILIZED FOR THIS PROPERTY.
BUT WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN BETWEEN. SO THE CURRENT CODE LANGUAGE SAYS THAT THE FACADE MATERIAL FOR ALL WALLS FACING PUBLIC STREETS OR CUSTOMER PARKING LOT SHALL BE MASONRY. 70% OF THESE SHALL BE BRICK AND THEN IT GIVES SPECIFIC BRICK COLORS.
THIS SAINT JOE, OLD ORLEANS AND SAINT JOE DARK RANGE.
[00:45:01]
CONTAINED IN THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN PLAN, AND MAY USE NICHIHA AS A PRIMARY MATERIAL.AND SO THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE EXISTING BUILDING LOOKS LIKE.
AND THIS IS WITH THE LIGHT HITTING IT LOOKS A LITTLE BROWN.
HERE WE ARE LOOKING DIRECTLY SOUTH. SORRY, THIS WAS LOOKING WEST.
IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY ELEVATIONS AS PART OF IT. IT JUST HAD THE WRITTEN STANDARDS.
SO THIS IS KIND OF THEIR VISION. AGAIN, LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE PAINTING THE BRICKWORK.
THEY'RE KIND OF GOING TO DO A STAIN OR WASH ON THE STONEWORK.
AND THEN THEY WANT TO INSTALL THESE NICHIHA PANELS ON TOP OF SOME OF THAT EXISTING AND SO THE COLORS ARE ALL COMPLIANT WITH THE URBAN DESIGN PLAN AS PROPOSED. THE ONLY REASON WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT NICHIHA AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, THEY HAVEN'T FINALIZED THE ELEVATIONS YET, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE IT COULD BE MORE THAN 20% OF THIS ONE FACADE.
AND SO NORMALLY THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO P&Z AS A NON-DISCRETIONARY SITE PLAN JUST TO IDENTIFY A NEW PRIMARY MATERIAL. SO, YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNCIL WAS OKAY WITH WITH THESE COLORS.
THIS WOULD KIND OF SAVE THEM THAT STEP. THEY COULD JUST ADMINISTRATIVELY UPDATE THE ELEVATIONS SINCE THIS IS AN EXISTING BUILDING AND NOT HAVE TO DO THE ADDITIONAL STEP OF GOING BACK TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.
SO JUST SHOWING THE OTHER TWO SIDES AND THEN THESE WERE RENDERINGS THAT THEY DID.
SO THAT'S IT FOR MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT IS HERE.
THEY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION BUT WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, LEXIN, HOW DOES THE HOW DO THEY PROPOSE TO CHANGE THE COLOR OF THE EXISTING BRICK THERE? PAINT IT. PAINT IT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE PANELS CAN BE ATTACHED ON TOP OF, IT'S A FIBER. FIBER CEMENT TYPE MATERIAL. IT'S A SIDING, ESSENTIALLY.
THERE'S A BUILDING THAT'S ON 24 AND THAT'S SIMILAR TO THIS.
RIGHT. IT'S IT'S LIKE AN URGENT CARE. I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING IN THE AREA THAT MIGHT HAVE USED SIMILAR COLORS.
AND SO THE COLORS WOULD, I THINK, BLEND REALLY WELL.
YEAH. IT SEEMS THAT SAID ESTHETICALLY PLEASING COMPARED TO THE PREVIOUS LOOK OF IT.
AND THIS IS JUST TO WE DO HAVE THE CADDO OFFICE BUILDING.
THEY USE NICHIHA SIDING AND THEN IN LAKESIDE CROSSING, THEY DIDN'T USE NICHIHA, THEY USED A SIMILAR PRODUCT CALLED PRODEMA, BUT IT'S THAT SAME FIBER CEMENT MATERIAL THAT HAS A WOOD LOOK.
AND SO IS THIS GOING OVER THE BRICK. IS THAT.
YES. YEAH. OKAY. I REALLY WISH I WOULD STOP DOING THIS.
I'M SORRY. DO Y'ALL NEED TO TALK TO THE APPLICANT? DO YOU THINK IF THEY'RE HERE, IT'S NICE TO HEAR FROM THEM WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE? COME ON UP AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE. MY NAME IS BRANDON ALFORD, 402 OLD JUSTIN ROAD, ARGYLE, TEXAS.
AND I KNOW PEOPLE SOMETIMES SAY, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL. IT WAS ACTUALLY BROUGHT UP IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING ON HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE PAINT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT DOESN'T CHIP OR FAIL OR COME OFF THE BUILDING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM THAT THAT'S DOING THE EXTERIOR AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO A PRIMER OVER THE BRICK AND USE AN EXTERIOR PAINT THAT SPECIALIZED SPECIFICALLY FOR BRICK TO NOT ALLOW IT TO DO THAT.
BUT I DON'T SEE THEM BEING ANY KIND OF PROBLEM.
[00:50:02]
WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS. WE'VE BEEN HERE IN FLOWER MOUND FOR 25 YEARS NOW, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS WANTED TO DO.I THOUGHT IT WAS OUT OF REACH AT A CERTAIN POINT, BECAUSE THE REAL ESTATE PROPERTIES WERE SO EXPENSIVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, AND THIS POPPED UP RECENTLY, AND WE JUMPED ON IT AS FAST AS WE COULD, NOT KNOWING IT WAS IN PD-28, AND WE COULDN'T DO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, REALLY A BIG STEP UP AND I'D LOVE TO SEE IT.
NO ISSUES WITH THE NICHIHA AT ALL. THE PAINTED BRICK I'M SKEPTICAL ON.
CAN YOU STILL MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR PLAN AS IS? TECHNICALLY, YES. WANTING TO DO THAT IT BECAUSE OF THE, THE LOOK AND HOPEFULLY HOPEFULLY TRYING TO BRING IT UP TO THE URBAN DESIGN, LOOK FOR THE MARKET STREETS OF THE WORLD AND THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON FLOWER MOUND WE WOULD WE WOULD OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THE ROUTE THAT COUNCIL WOULD CHOOSE AND HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT IF IF THAT WAS THE CASE, DOES IT SEEM LIKE IT CLASHES? DID YOU? DID YOU FEEL IT CLASHES? I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THEIR COLOR CHOICES.
IT'S PAINTING BRICK TO ME. I'VE SEEN IT GOING ON AROUND TOWN.
I SEE IT LOOKS GREAT WHEN THEY FIRST DO IT. IT DOESN'T LOOK SO GREAT A YEAR LATER, THERE'S MAINTENANCE ISSUES, UPKEEP THAT HAS TO BE DONE THAT IS NOT PRESENT ON AN UNPAINTED BRICK.
THERE'S NO MAINTENANCE. I JUST WOULDN'T RECOMMEND IT.
IT'S YOUR BUILDING. I WOULD PREFER THAT WE KEEP IT NATURAL BRICK.
I THINK ONCE, IF OUR STANDARDS REQUIRE A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF BRICK, ONCE YOU PAINT IT TO ME, IT'S NOT BRICK ANYMORE. IT'S PAINTED. IT'S PAINT NOW.
SO THAT'S JUST THE WAY I SEE IT. I DON'T REALLY WANT TO HOLD UP THIS APPLICANT.
I WANT TO SUPPORT THEM. BUT IF THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT PAINTING IT AND IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL, THEN I WOULD RATHER WE DIDN'T DO IT. BUT IF THE WHOLE THING HINGES ON WHITE AND NICHIHA, THEN YOU KNOW, I'M INCLINED TO GIVE YOU THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT, AND I WOULD PREFER YOU DID SOMETHING THAT IS MORE LONG TERM, EASY TO MAINTAIN. I THINK MAYBE SOME OF THE PROBLEMS YOU'VE OBSERVED MAY HAVE COME OUT OF THE FACT THAT SOME PEOPLE USE THE WRONG KIND OF MATERIALS.
THEY CAN USE PAINT WHEN THERE IS ANOTHER MATERIAL THAT YOU CAN USE TO NOT REALLY STAIN THE BRICK, BUT IT'S PERMEABLE BECAUSE BRICK NEEDS TO BREATHE.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR PRODUCT IS GOING TO BE MORE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LATTER THAN JUST LIKE SLAPPING UP THE LATEX PAINT THAT SOME PEOPLE DO WITHOUT THE KNOWLEDGE OF HOW LONG. IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING THE PREPARATORY WORK.
WE'RE DOING THE PREPARATORY WORK, TOO. AND THEN A LOT OF THE THINGS WERE BEFORE THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WEREN'T CHOOSING THE RIGHT PRODUCTS, WHERE THINGS HAVE CHANGED BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE PAINTING BRICK NOW FOR EXTERIOR PURPOSES.
THEY'VE COME OUT WITH A LOT OF NEW PRODUCT NOW THAT I THINK IS A LOT BETTER THAN THE OLDER STUFF THAT THAT IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T LOOK IT'S GOING TO LOOK HOPEFULLY MORE LIKE A NATURAL BRICK THAN, THAN JUST THROWING OVER LIKE A SATIN FINISH.
IT'LL BE A FLAT FINISH. IT'LL STILL HOPEFULLY MAINTAIN THAT BRICK LOOK AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IT WON'T HAVE, LIKE, A SHEEN TO IT OR ANYTHING WHERE A LOT OF THE HOUSES YOU SEE THAT DO THAT GRAY.
THEY DO LIKE A SATIN FINISH AND IT CAUSES THE SUN TO REFLECT OFF OF IT.
IT LOOKS ODD SOMETIMES. I AGREE WITH THAT. THIS WILL NOT BE THE CASE.
AND IT'S MORE OF AN UPDATED LOOK. YES MA'AM. I AGREE IT'S MORE MODERN.
I ACTUALLY REALLY KIND OF I LIKE IT AND I THINK FOR A JEWELRY STORE, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR MODERN.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD IT UP. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
SO THIS IS A THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
OKAY. SO THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. SO IT DOES ANYBODY.
IF NOT. AND WE DON'T NOBODY'S SPEAKING UP. WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS.
I'M READY. I CAN MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM J.1 AS WRITTEN.
SECOND. OKAY, TRACY, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLE.
COUNCILMEMBER WARNER. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.
AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.
AYE. COUNCILMEMBER DREW. AYE. OKAY. ITEM J.1 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
CONGRATULATIONS. OKAY, JOHN, YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE FUN
[J.2. Tax Notes. Series 2024 Redemption - Consider all matters incident and related to the redemption of certain outstanding "Town of Flower Mound, Texas, Tax Notes, Series 2024" in the approximate amount of $510,736.25, including the adoption of a resolution pertaining thereto.]
VICTORY ON TAX NOTE SERIES. YES. SO, MAYOR AND COUNCIL, I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION FOR THIS ONE.[00:55:07]
I JUST WANTED TO COME UP AND SAY A FEW NOTES, AND THAT'S WHY I ASKED TO BE ON REGULAR SESSIONS. SO THIS TAX NOTE HAD BEEN A VERY LONG TIME SINCE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND HAD ACTUALLY DONE A TAX NOTE. BUT TAX NOTES IN GENERAL, THE SHORTEST FORM OF DEBT MUNICIPALITIES ARE ALLOWED TO ISSUE.BUT THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE THERE'S INCREASING CONSTRAINTS PLACED ON OUR OPERATING FUNDS, AND THIS ALLOWS US TO SHIFT SOME COSTS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE PAID FOR WITH CASH OVER TO DEBT WITHOUT PAYING TOO MUCH FOR INTEREST COSTS.
AND SO THIS WILL BE A CONTINUED THING THAT WE LOOK AT IN THE FUTURE FOR FUTURE DEBT ISSUANCES, BECAUSE IT IS JUST A SHORTER DEBT PERIOD. BUT JUST WANTED TO GIVE COUNCIL A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON IT.
SO JOHN, THERE WAS A BILL DIDN'T PASS THIS LEGISLATIVE CYCLE, BUT MAYBE IT'LL COME BACK AGAIN.
NOW THAT PUT A CAP ON HOW MUCH DEBT WE COULD ISSUE WITHIN OF THIS TYPE.
IS THAT WHAT THE, WHAT WAS BEING PROPOSED? THE ORIGINAL ONE ACTUALLY SAID YOU JUST COULDN'T.
AND SO IN THE INCREMENT THAT WE'RE DOING HERE, IT'S NOT REALLY EVER GOING TO REACH THAT.
BUT THIS IS JUST A VERY GOOD THING. AND IT'S ALSO A GREAT HOLDING PATTERN FOR INS.
SO WHEN WE WERE GOING OUT FOR THE BOND PROGRAM, THE GO PROGRAM IN PARTICULAR, ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SELL THAT IS BECAUSE WE CAN, BY UTILIZING THIS TAX DOWN AND DOING THESE LARGE PAYMENTS UP FRONT, WE WERE ABLE TO INCREASE OUR CAPACITY SO THAT WHEN WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR THAT GO ISSUANCE, WE HAVE THE CAPACITY AND DON'T HAVE TO INCREASE THE TOTAL TAX RATE.
BUT THE LEGISLATURE CONSISTENTLY OVERLOOKS THAT.
OKAY, COOL. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JOHN? OTHERWISE WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION. IS THERE A MOTION? THERE'S NO ACTION. OH I GUESS NO THERE IS. IT'S IT'S TO APPROVE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF REGULAR ITEM J.2 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. OKAY TRACY, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER DREW.
AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER.
AYE. OKAY, TAX NOTES SERIES 2024 REDEMPTION PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THANK YOU, JOHN, FOR PRESENTING ON THAT. YOU'RE WELCOME.
AND THEN YOU'RE STAYING UP FOR THE WORK SESSION ITEM. YEAH.
[K. WORK SESSION ITEM]
SO AND MAYOR, IF I COULD. AS HE'S PULLING UP THEIR PRESENTATION OUR STORMWATER FEES ARE SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR THE BETTER PART OF A YEAR.AND SO IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING DIALOG. THEN WE'VE HAD SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THE CROSS TIMBERS EXPRESS CONCERNS WITH DRAINAGE, AND THAT KIND OF ENTERED THE FOLD. AND WE HAD TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE WORKING WITH NUGENT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE SET EVERYTHING UP.
AND WE DID THAT AT THE LAST MEETING. BUT THE REASON WHY I CALLED THIS MEETING TODAY IS THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC WERE CLEAR ON HOW THE STRUCTURE ACTUALLY WORKS IN REGARDS TO RESIDENTIAL AND THAT ERA THAT WE'RE SETTING, ALONG WITH THE COMMERCIAL RATES. AND SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A BRIEF PRESENTATION WHERE JOHN'S GOING TO KIND OF SHOW YOU THE IMPACT OF CERTAIN RATE STRUCTURES AND HOW IT IMPACTS OUR OUR COMMERCIAL, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE GETTING INTO.
BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, THIS WILL COME BEFORE YOU ON THE 21ST OF OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION.
AND THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BLESS IT. AND WE MOVE FORWARD AND HOPEFULLY ADOPT IT IN SEPTEMBER.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THAT AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN, AND TOWARDS THE END I'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION OF WHAT I THINK WHERE WE SHOULD ULTIMATELY GO. SO JOHN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.
SO THIS PRESENTATION IS SPECIFICALLY OVER STORMWATER REVENUES.
IF WE STICK WITH THE MEDIAN, IT'S INCREASES, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DRAMATICALLY.
AND SO THE TWO FEES THAT WE WERE WANTING TO LOOK AT WAS THE $6 AND $6.50.
AND SO THE CHOICE THAT, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ORIGINALLY WOULD HAVE BEEN THE MEDIAN.
AND WE PLANNED AROUND. BUT THE OTHER ONES I'D LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER IS OPTION THREE AND OPTION FOUR.
[01:00:04]
AND SO LET'S ACTUALLY GET INTO THAT. SO THE FIRST THING THAT I WANT TO KIND OF LAY OFF, THIS IS A LOT OF NUMBERS ON A PAGE.AND I APOLOGIZE BECAUSE I USUALLY TRY NOT TO DO BIG TABLES LIKE THIS.
SO THE BIGGEST THING THAT I WANT YOU TO COME AWAY FROM THIS IS THAT IF YOU LOOK ALONG THE BOTTOM WHERE IT SAYS TOTAL, WELL, THAT'S IN MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. AND CURRENTLY AT OPTION TWO, WE HAVE OUR BUDGET BUILT AROUND $2.8 MILLION.
AND SO THE OTHER OPTIONS THREE AND OPTIONS FOUR ALSO GIVES US THAT IN OPTION ONE AND FUNDS ABOUT A LITTLE LESS THAN 100 OR A LITTLE BIT OVER $100,000 LESS. AND SO IT WILL FUND MORE THAN IT CURRENTLY DOES, BUT NOT ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO COMPLETELY REBUILD THE FUNDS FROM KIND OF THAT BIG, SIGNIFICANT WEATHER EVENT THAT WE'VE HAD. SO THE BIGGEST THING THAT CHANGES HERE IS THE ERUS.
AT MEDIAN, YOU'RE IN CHARGE OF RESIDENTS A LITTLE LESS AND THE CUSTOMERS A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THE REAL IMPACT OF THAT IS.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPACT WHO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? AND THE LARGEST COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER THAT WE'RE REALLY OR THE CUSTOMERS WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ARE THE COMMERCIAL SUPERSTORES.
THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST HEAVILY BE IMPACTED.
SO WHEN WE TALKED, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT CHURCHES AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
IF YOU LOOK AT KIND OF LARGE COMMERCIAL OR CHURCHES, THERE'S THAT VARIANCE IS REALLY 60, 70, $80, EVEN ALMOST A $100 A MONTH. THAT'S A PER MONTH IMPACT FOR A RELATIVELY LARGE PLACE.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER VARIANCES ON THE ON THEIR WATER BILL.
MOST OF THE TIME, MOST OF THOSE MONTHS BASED ON JUST RAINFALL.
AND SO THIS IS NOT IMPACTING PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE AN ABILITY TO PAY.
MEDIUM COMMERCIALS ACTUALLY SAVE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE THING.
SO THEY SAVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT VARIANCE LINE AND THAT NEGATIVE AND THE PARENTHESES THEY SAVE, NO MATTER WHICH ONE OF THESE OPTIONS YOU CHOOSE.
AND SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IMPACT AND IMPACT AND MONTHLY BILLS, I JUST, I WANT TO HELP YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND THAT THE REALITY IS THE PERSON WHOSE MOST IMPACT IS THIS VERY COMMERCIAL SUPERSTORE OR AND THEY'RE PROBABLY THE LEAST LIKELY TO KIND OF THROW A FIT ABOUT THIS, BECAUSE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHOW YOU IS HOW NORMAL THIS IS.
ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS WHEN WE'RE CONSIDERING ON A RESIDENTIAL BASIS WHERE WE'RE AT? SO THE REASON WHY IT KIND OF HAS TWO OF EACH CITIES IS BECAUSE THOSE ERUS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS, THIS IS FOR A RESIDENTIAL BILL.
WE ARE STILL VERY MUCH THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK HERE.
ALL RIGHT. SO SMALL COMMERCIAL, SMALL COMMERCIAL.
WE ARE STILL MIDDLE OF THE PACK HERE. HERE. AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE NOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST CITIES.
AND OPTION FOUR, WHICH IS IS THE MOST EXPENSIVE, WHICH WILL GENERATE THE MOST AMOUNT OF REVENUE, IS STILL SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE TOP OF THE PACK.
SO MONTHLY BILLS, MEDIUM COMMERCIAL. THESE ARE THE ONES THAT SAW DECREASE OVERALL.
AND SO CURRENTLY THEY'RE GOING TO SEE A DECREASE.
AND THEY'RE STILL MOVING LOWER INTO THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK.
EVEN HERE IF THEY BUILT THAT SAME BUILDING ANYWHERE ELSE.
ELSE THEY COULD BE CHARGED EVEN DOUBLE WHAT WE CHARGE.
AND I KNOW THERE'S A BIT OF HESITANCY BECAUSE OF BRAKE SHOCK.
BUT EVEN AT THE $6.50, EVEN AT THE MEDIAN, I BELIEVE WE CAN STILL, THERE'S STILL NOT ENOUGH TO BASICALLY SAY, OH, YOU GUYS ARE JUST THROWN INTO BANKRUPTCY.
IN REALITY, THESE GUYS ARE GETTING AN AMAZING DEAL OF BEING IN FLOWER MOUND AND WHERE THEY'RE AT. SO AGAIN, COMING BACK TO THIS. SO OUR RECOMMENDATION OR OUR BASE BUDGETS BUILD OFF OPTION TWO.
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MY ARGUMENT IS THAT IN ESSENCE, THIS IS A 50% JUMP.GENERATES ROUGHLY ABOUT $250,000 OR MORE REVENUE.
YOU KNOW, THE NUMBER WE ALL HAVE BEEN KIND OF TALKING ABOUT THIS $1.3 MILLION MARK, AND THAT IS WHAT IT COSTS TO CAPITALIZE AND GET THE STAFF TO STAFF, ACCRUE AN ADDITIONAL CREW FOR OUR DRAINAGE. AND SO YOU ALMOST TAKE THIS AND SOME OF THE INCREASES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
THE IMPORTANT THING THAT I WILL POINT OUT IS, IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT OUR CURRENT AND THEN YOU JUST LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE BASE OPTIONS, EVEN AT THE $6, THERE'S A REVENUE INCREASE, BUT THAT IS BAKED IN TO BUILD UP THE FUND BALANCE IS TO DO OUR FLOOD MAPS.
IT'S KIND OF THE OTHER WORK WE GOT TO DO. IT DOESN'T CREATE A NET ADDITION OF SERVICES.
WHAT THE 6.50 DOES IS THAT IN ADDITION TO OUR CREWS, IT GIVES THAT ADDITIONAL FUNDS THAT WE COULD USE FOR CONTRACT WORK WE COULD DO STUDIES WITH. IT'S MORE, IT'S MORE RESOURCES TO GO AND ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE APPROPRIATE STEP FOR US TO TAKE.
I WON'T UNDERSTATE THAT THIS IS A POLICY SHIFT FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
THIS IS BREAKING AWAY WHAT WE'VE DONE FOR DECADES.
AND MORE SO THAN ANY COUNCIL PREVIOUS TO YOU GUYS.
AND IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SET THAT BASELINE. WE CAN SEE WHAT TYPE OF IMPACT WE MAKE IN SOME OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS, AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK AND VISIT YOU FROM YEAR TO YEAR TO SEE HOW IT'S WORKING. ULTIMATELY, IF THERE'S A DETERMINATION, IF WE WANT TO BRING ON A CAREER AND BRING ON THAT REVENUE, IT GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, PICK THE HORIZON AND SEE HOW WE GROW INTO IT.
SO ULTIMATELY, IF YOU WERE TO ASK ME WHAT MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IT WOULD BE TO GO WITH OPTION FOUR, INCREASE THAT RATE TO 50%. EXCUSE ME. $0.50. AND WE CAN TAKE THAT ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND STEP UP OUR MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.
WELL, SAID JAMES, BECAUSE I KNOW, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MANY PEOPLE COME FORWARD ON THE DRAINAGE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITY AND SO THIS IS A NICE WAY TO KIND OF EASE INTO IT WHERE WE CAN LOOK AT ALL THE COMMUNITY DRAINAGE ISSUES WITHOUT MAKING IT A HUGE IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENTS.
I LIKE THAT OPTION FOUR. I HAVE ONE QUESTION KIND OF LOOKING BETWEEN OPTION THREE AND OPTION FOUR.
IN ORDER TO FUND ANOTHER DRAINAGE CREW, IF THAT'S WHERE WE WIND UP COMING TO AND, YOU KNOW, DOWN THE ROAD, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT OF REVENUE THAT WE WOULD NEED AND WHAT ERU PER ERU WOULD IT REQUIRE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT? RIGHT OFF THE TOP IS, IS THAT IF WE WERE TO 350, YOU KNOW, FUNDS THE STUDY OR QUOTES THAT WOULD AGGREGATE ALL THE WORK THAT THE CREW WOULD ULTIMATELY DO, RIGHT OFF THE BAT. THAT'S 350.
SO YOUR ERU WOULD BE ROUGHLY 950. OKAY. SO IF WE ULTIMATELY HAVE TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE HAVE THAT AMOUNT OF RESOURCES AVAILABLE AND WE DON'T KNOW IN ONE YEAR IF THAT'S GOING TO BE THE CASE OR NOT, THEN IF WE HAVE THE LOWER ERU, THE SMALLER LOT SIZE CALCULATION, THAT, THOSE RATES DO START TO GET PRETTY HIGH UP ON THAT CHART.
SO I WONDER IF WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITH THE MODESTLY LARGER ERU, JUST SO THAT WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO GO UP A LITTLE BIT IN THE FEE PER ERU AND NOT PUSH OURSELVES TO THE VERY TOP OF THOSE COMPARISONS DOWN THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE OPTION THREE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
NO, NO IT DOES. AND THERE'S REALLY NO WRONG ANSWER.
YOU KNOW ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO LOOKING IN THE LONG TERM THAT'S A BETTER APPROACH. BUT IF IT'S A MATTER OF JUST THROWING THE RESOURCES AT IT, YOU KNOW? OPTION FOUR ALLOWS US TO DO THAT, BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANY MAJOR PUSHBACK OR CONCERNS IF Y'ALL DO WANT TO GO WITH OPTION THREE, IT STILL GIVES US ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TO GO OUT THERE AND INCREASE MAINTENANCE.
AGREE 100%. AND COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE EITHER 10 OR 9? EITHER ONE IS FINE. I THINK THE POINT THAT I WANTED TO CALL OUT HERE IS THAT HISTORICALLY, THE FEE FOR THE LARGEST CONSUMER, THE LARGEST, I GUESS, PERSON WHO REPRESENTS THE GREATEST IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, WHICH WOULD PRECIPITATE THE GREATEST STORMWATER RUNOFF, HAS HAD A PRICE THAT IS UNBELIEVABLY LOW, LIKE DEEPLY, DEEPLY DISCOUNTED. AND SO I THINK THIS IS LONG OVERDUE KIND OF RIGHT PRICING, IF YOU WOULD, BASED ON WHAT THEY NEED AND WHAT THEY CAUSE.
SO I STILL FEEL THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PACK.
LIKE COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL SAID, I REALLY LIKE OPTION THREE.
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WHICH I THINK IS MUCH MORE APPROPRIATE. SO I WOULD PREFER THREE.YEAH. I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN OPTION TWO AND OPTION FOUR.
BUT AND I GUESS THE REASON I'M, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE, THE LARGE COMMERCIAL CUSTOMER, BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE, THE $100 DIFFERENCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BETWEEN 3 AND 4 AND TWO AND ONE IT'S STILL PRETTY MIDDLE GROUND, ESPECIALLY LOOKING AT LOUISVILLE, WHICH IS THE HIGHEST.
BUT THE REASON I'M KIND OF TORN BETWEEN OPTION FOUR AND TWO IS THE INCREASE, I DON'T KNOW IF WE I, I GUESS LET ME START WITH A QUESTION. WITH SO WE'RE TRYING TO REBUILD OUR FUND BALANCE BECAUSE OF THE STORM DEBRIS CLEANUP.
IS THAT GOING TO TAKE US ONE, TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE'RE ALREADY INCREASING IT BY 700,000.
YEAH. OKAY. SO IF WE WERE TO EXTEND THAT OUT TO 4 OR 5 YEARS.
IS THERE. WHAT'S THE IMPACT THERE. EXTENDING THAT OUT TO FOUR AND FIVE YEARS.
IT JUST DEPENDS WHAT OTHER THINGS YOU WANT TO PAY FOR IT WITH. IF SO, IF YOU ADD OTHER EXPENDITURES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND YEAH, MAYBE YOU CAN SQUEEZE OUT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN EXPENSES. IT'S JUST THE ONLY THING THAT WORRIES ME IS THE AMOUNT OF SEVERE WEATHER EVENTS HAVE BEEN INCREASING.
I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE THREE AND FOUR, BECAUSE TO ME, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND IT. SURE, I CAN HELP YOU A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE IT STILL HAS THE SAME IMPACT ON THE RESIDENTS.
3 OR 4, EVEN LONG TERM IT'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENCE.
CORRECT. SO TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SO LONG TERM WHAT COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL IS ACTUALLY POINTING OUT HERE IS THAT IT, WHAT IT DOES IS IT INCREASES THE AVERAGE SIZE OF AN ERU CREW, WHICH IS THE SQUARE FOOT.
SO THAT'S YOUR DENOMINATOR. SO WHEN YOU GO AND YOU LOOK AT A COMMERCIAL SITE THAT HAS A 600,000FT², THE LARGER YOUR DENOMINATOR ERROR, THEN THE LESS TIMES IT GOES IN THERE.
THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, SO MY THOUGHT, MAYOR, IS THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO GET TO $9 A MONTH, WHICH IS PROBABLY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LAND IN A FEW YEARS. YEAH.
AND THERE WE'RE AT THE TOP AT THAT POINT, WHICH I DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE AT THE TOP. BUT IF WE HAD OPTION THREE AND THAT DOUBLES, THAT KEEPS US, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE BIT MORE IN RANGE.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, IT'S. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M THINKING.
AND OPTION FOUR WILL GIVE US A PRETTY SIGNIFICANT JUMP IN THE REVENUE.
I DON'T KNOW. WHAT DO YOU THINK? MY PREFERENCE IS OPTION TWO, BUT I AM NOT OPPOSED TO OPTION THREE.
SO I DO AGREE THAT THE OPTION THREE GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM FOR ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
I DON'T WANT TO GET THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, AND I'M NOT TOTALLY SOLD THAT WE WANT TO GO TO $9 AND WE WANT TO ADD ANOTHER CREW. I'D LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO IN THIS FIRST YEAR OR SO WITH ADDITIONAL MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES, AND SEE HOW THAT GOES BEFORE WE MAKE A COMMITMENT.
AND SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M COMFORTABLE WITH TWO.
I UNDERSTAND THAT WE CAN DO MORE WITH THREE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO FUND BALANCE POTENTIALLY SOONER, BUT ALSO GIVE US MORE MONEY TO DO MORE THINGS WITH IT.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M OKAY WITH IT, BUT MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO. BUT LIKE I SAID, I'M OKAY WITH THREE.
I THINK I'M LEANING MORE TO THREE. JUST TO GIVE IT TO BE IT.
PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION. ALL RIGHT. WELL, COULD YOU PUT THE OTHER PAGE BACK UP? THAT JUST SHOWS ALL OF THEM? YES. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER QUICK LOOK.
I THINK THE THING I FAVOR OVER THREE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER RATE, BUT ALSO THE ERU IS HIGHER, WHICH MEANS THE COMMERCIAL IS A LITTLE BIT LOWER. SO.
AND IT DOES NET OUT A LITTLE BIT SMIDGEN HIGHER REVENUE OVERALL THAN NUMBER TWO.
SO WHENEVER WE STARTED THIS, WHENEVER WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS CHANGE, WE WERE CONSIDERING A CHANGE.
WE WOULD HAVE PUT US CLOSER TO THE TOP. IN THAT SAME AMOUNT OF TIME, MORE PEOPLE JUMPED AHEAD OF US.
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MOVING FORWARD, YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE HAVING TO LOOK AT THESE RATES REALLY, REALLY HEAVILY.AND I THINK THIS IS PROBABLY THE BEST SLIDE TO SHOW THAT.
SO CAN YOU GO TO THE SUMMARY TABLE. I JUST WANT TO DISCUSS.
I MEAN I'M LOOKING BACK. SO WE'RE REBUILDING OUR FUND BALANCE FOR STORMWATER RIGHT NOW.
SO IN THE NEXT THREE YEARS THAT FUND BALANCE SHOULD BE REBUILT UP.
SO THE CONCERN WITH GOING TO $9, I FEEL LIKE ONCE WE'VE RESTORED OUR FUND BALANCE, WE WON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY GO TO $9 IF WE WANT TO GET A CREW, IF WE NEVER USE IT. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, YOU'RE CORRECT.
WE DON'T HAVE, OUR MARGINS ARE NONEXISTENT AND NOT EVEN RAZOR THIN.
THEN YOU HAVE SOME PLAY OF WHERE YOU HOUSE STAFF AND YOU CAN CREATE CAPACITY.
SO THERE'S A LOT MORE OPTIONS THAT YOU HAVE TO GET THERE.
BUT THAT'S JUST, THAT WAS JUST MY, MY POINT FROM THE WHOLE TIMES.
A HEAVY LIFT TO TRY TO DO IN ONE YEAR. BUT AS YOU MOVE FORWARD, AS YOU POINTED OUT, COUNCILMAN DREW, IS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME OTHER OPPORTUNITIES THAT CREATE THAT CAPACITY TO ALLOW US TO GET TO THAT POINT, IF WE SO CHOOSE. THAT'S 2 OR 3 YEARS DOWN THE LINE, BUT NOT JUST THAT, BUT ALSO IN JUST HOW WE STRUCTURE IT, AND IF WE HAVE HEALTHIER OTHER FUNDS WHERE WE CAN PUT PERSONNEL IN CERTAIN PROJECTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE CAN CREATE MORE CAPACITY TO DO SO AS WE GO DOWN THE LINE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COUNSEL FOR THAT.
ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO ITEM L.
[L. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS]
I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PEOPLE EXCITED ABOUT TALKING ABOUT THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD.WE HAVE BETH SODERBERG. YOU'RE COMING FORWARD AND KELLY FURNACE.
SO THIS IS, THIS ITEM IS THE ANIMAL SERVICES DUTIES.
THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO, MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL AND STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT IMPROVING THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD ORDINANCE.
WE WANT TO CREATE A SPACE WHERE MEMBERS ARE EAGER TO SERVE, KNOWING THAT THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF THE ANIMALS, THE SHELTER, AND THE PEOPLE OF THIS TOWN. WE WANT TO DISTINGUISH OURSELVES AS NOT ONLY VOLUNTEERS, BUT BOARD MEMBERS. NOT FOR OUR EGOS, BUT TO ELEVATE THE SERVICE TO THE TOWN, THE SHELTER AND THE BOARD.
WE KNOW HOW TO CONDUCT OURSELVES AND ACHIEVE GOALS AS A TEAM.
CHRISTINE AND HER TEAM DO AN EXCELLENT JOB WITH THAT.
WE ARE REQUESTING A CHANGE IN OUR PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT.
A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN THAT WAS VETTED AT OUR LAST MEETING AND ANN WAS THERE.
SO THANK YOU, ANN, FOR YOUR TIME AS WELL. AND WE ALSO ARE GRATEFUL TO THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE RECEIVED FROM TERESA SCOTT, OUR FORMER TOWN SECRETARY. WE ARE READY FOR YOUR APPROVAL IN HELPING US MAKE FLOWER MOUND ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD, ONE THAT ALIGNS WITH FLOWER MOUND BEING NUMBER ONE IN SO MANY CATEGORIES.
LET'S ADD THIS BOARD TO THAT LEVEL OF EXCELLENCE.
LET'S BEGIN THE PRESENTATION. OKAY. SO THE BACKGROUND ON THIS, A YEAR AGO WHEN I DURING MY INTERVIEW I ASKED FOR CHANGES TO COME TO THIS BOARD, SO THE CHALLENGE WAS TO DO IT.
AND I'M GOING TO JUST TURN IT OVER TO HER AND LET HER ELABORATE.
I'M A LOT SHORTER, SO BEAR WITH ME. KIND OF ON TIPTOES FOR YOU GUYS.
SO I WAS ELECTED TO CHAIR THE SUBCOMMITTEE IN ABOUT FEBRUARY.
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AND ALONG WITH ME, WE ALSO HAD LAURIE APPLEBAUM AND CARINA VANLAET VANDERKERKEN AND THE THREE OF US HAVE MET ABOUT SIX TIMES BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND MAY TO BE ABLE TO TALK THROUGH WHAT WE WERE CHARGED WITH DOING.WHAT WE WERE ASKED TO DO IS KIND OF ACT ON BETH'S VISION, TO BE ABLE TO REALLY LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HOW THIS BOARD MIGHT BE ABLE TO SERVE IN A BETTER CAPACITY BEYOND THE REGULATORY ASPECT OF WHAT OUR CURRENT DUTIES REALLY REQUIRE OF US. SO WHAT WE'VE COME UP WITH ARE A FEW PROPOSALS OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHAT WE'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ADD TO THIS BOARD. THE BEGINNING OF THAT IS THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PURPOSE WITHIN THE ORDINANCES.
MANY OF THE BOARD AND COMMISSIONS DO. AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THERESA HAPPENED TO BE REALLY INSTRUMENTAL IN HELPING US TO REALLY CRAFT AND COME UP WITH, AND THAT'S WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU HERE, IS REALLY TO BE ABLE TO ADVISE THE TOWN COUNCIL ON POLICIES AND PRACTICES RELATED TO ANIMAL WELFARE, PUBLIC SAFETY, SHELTER OPERATIONS AND RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO REALLY CREATE SOME COLLABORATION BETWEEN THIS BOARD AND THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THE ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT TO REALLY JUST ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ANIMALS AND RESIDENTS IN FLOWER MOUND, OBVIOUSLY, WHILE ENSURING THAT WE MAINTAIN THE COMPLIANCE WITH OUR LOCAL AND STATE ANIMAL RELATED REGULATIONS. RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO WAS JUST A LITTLE BIT OF CHANGE TO THE LANGUAGE THAT IS A PART OF OUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, AND WE SOMEWHAT BORROWED FROM THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A BIT OF A BASELINE FOR WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WITH THAT. SO WE ARE LOOKING TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE THAT JOIN THIS BOARD, WHICH HAS BEEN A BIT OF A REVOLVING DOOR, THAT THEY HAVE A SINCERE INTEREST IN ANIMALS, WHICH SEEMS A BIT OF A NO BRAINER, BUT ENSURING THAT THAT'S PART OF WHAT PEOPLE COME TO THIS BOARD FOR, THE ABILITY TO WORK WITH THE PUBLIC, TOWN STAFF AND OTHER TOWN BOARDS. TIME TO DEVOTE TO THE SERVICE.
WE'RE HOPING THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THE PROJECTS AND THE EVENTS THAT CHRISTINE AND HER TEAM ALREADY PROVIDE, AND THAT WE ARE JUST BEING A BETTER SUPPORT TO THOSE EVENTS.
AND ALSO BE WILLING TO BE MEMBERS THAT MAY VOLUNTEER AT THE ANIMAL SERVICES CENTER, BUT ONLY AFTER THEY HAVE COMPLETED THE REQUIRED TRAINING AND BACKGROUND CHECKS THAT ARE NECESSARY IN ORDER TO SERVE.
SO IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THESE PROJECTS EVENTS THERE'S A LOT.
AND I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM. THERE'S A LOT ON THERE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO CHOOSE A COUPLE OF THEM.
JUST AS CHERYL WAS TALKING, THE MAYOR WAS SPEAKING.
THERE WAS AN OPEN HOUSE HOUSING COMMISSION FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ON JULY 29TH.
KELLY AND I MANAGED THE TABLE, WHICH ALLOWED CHRISTINE NOT TO HAVE TO ATTEND.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE OF SERVICE TO HER AND TO THE TOWN AS WELL.
AND I HOPE OUR TABLE WON BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY GOOD.
I'M JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE. YOU'VE GOT THE READING MONTH ON THERE, AND I KNOW WE'VE BRAGGED ABOUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOU BEFORE, BUT THE BIGGEST THING THAT WE WERE PROUD OF IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GO AND REACH OUT TO FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND TO DOCTOR HARDY AT THE LIBRARY AND MAKE THIS A BIGGER EVENT AND INVOLVE MORE ASSETS THAN JUST THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD.
AND IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS, AND I THINK WE CAN EVEN DO MORE NEXT YEAR WITH THIS.
THESE ARE THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING DONE AT THE SHELTER THAT CHRISTINE HAS DONE FOR YEARS.
AND IF WE LOOK AT, LIKE THE ROCK PAINTING TO MAYBE INCLUDE THE CULTURAL ARTS DEPARTMENT TO SAY OR I'M SORRY, BOARD TO GET INVOLVED SO THAT WE GET MORE VISIBILITY ON A PROJECT THAT'S OUT THERE TO BRING MORE VISIBILITY TO NOT ONLY THE BOARDS, BUT TO THE SHELTER. AND SO THAT'S OUR GOAL. OUR FINAL RECOMMENDATION WAS SOME NEW LANGUAGE AROUND OUR DUTIES AND OUR RESPONSIBILITIES. AND THE FIRST PART OF THAT REALLY BEING TO BE ADVOCATES FOR THE WELL-BEING OF THE ANIMALS BY FOSTERING COLLABORATION, EDUCATION AND OUTREACH THINGS THAT, AGAIN, CAN HELP FROM A CITIZEN PERSPECTIVE TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THE AMAZING WORK THAT THIS ANIMAL SERVICES TEAM ALREADY DOES,
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AND TO BE ABLE TO ENCOURAGE RESPONSIBLE PET OWNERSHIP AND RAISE AWARENESS ABOUT HOMELESS PETS IN NEED OF CARING HOMES.SO TO KIND OF RECAP WHAT THOSE WERE IN CLOSING, AND THERE'S THE RECAP RIGHT THERE.
BUT IN CLOSING, THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD HAS TOO OFTEN FELT LIKE A REVOLVING DOOR.
AND WITH YOUR APPROVAL, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THAT.
WE CAN BUILD A BOARD THAT PEOPLE ARE PROUD TO SERVE ON, A BOARD THAT INSPIRES COMMITMENT, CONTINUITY, AND A LASTING SENSE OF PURPOSE. AND NOW WE'RE READY FOR ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WELL, I'M JUST IMPRESSED BY WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE SO FAR.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST AMAZING. AND YOU'VE TAKEN ACTION.
YOU'VE YOU'VE SEEN WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED TO MOVE THIS, THIS FORWARD MORE AND BE MORE PUBLIC AND BRING PEOPLE IN AND MAKE MORE AWARENESS OF THIS. AND SO I LOVE IT.
I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THE WORK.
I REALLY I THINK IT'S GREAT. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE OR ADD? I'M JUST THRILLED THAT YOUR GOAL OF ADDING VISIBILITY AND AWARENESS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE HOPING FOR.
AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE ADVOCACY. THANK YOU.
THANKS FOR SPENDING THE TIME TO DO THIS. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR WONDERFUL PRESENTATION TO US.
THANK YOU. I THINK IT'S GREAT. I THINK THIS IS WONDERFUL.
THE QUESTION I HAVE WAS, WAS CHRISTINE INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE SUBCOMMITTEE? AND, YOU KNOW, HOW DOES HER INPUT AND OTHER STAFF INPUT FACTOR INTO WHAT WE'VE SEEN TONIGHT? ABSOLUTELY. WHEN WE WERE APPOINTED TO THIS IN FEBRUARY, I WORK IN ANIMAL WELFARE, AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY MY GOAL TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT OVERSTEPPING AS A PERSON WHO HAS OUR OWN BOARD AT MY ORGANIZATION, THEY HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY, AND WE RUN THE DAY TO DAY OPERATIONS. AND I CERTAINLY WANTED TO RESPECT THAT WITH CHRISTINE.
IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DO THAT, THAT PART, AND WE DON'T NEED TO.
THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB. SO THAT WAS ACTUALLY THE FIRST THING THAT WE DID WAS REACH OUT TO LAURIE.
WE MET WITH HER SHORTLY AFTER THAT, I CAN'T REMEMBER IT WAS FEBRUARY OR MARCH TO REALLY UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE OF WHERE SHE REALLY FELT LIKE WE MIGHT BE OF ASSISTANCE, WAYS THAT WE COULD POTENTIALLY STEP IN. AND THEN WE UTILIZE THAT AS WE BEGIN TO MEET AND FORMULATE IDEAS THAT WE BROUGHT TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD THAT WE FINALLY PRESENTED IN JUNE AND OBVIOUSLY BROUGHT US TO TODAY.
I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT OUR BOARD MEMBERS FEEL LIKE THEY'RE DOING A GOOD SERVICE, AND THEIR TIME IS VALUABLE, AND WE'RE RESPECTING YOUR TIME AND YOU'RE HELPING THE TOWN. SO WHAT DOES A MEETING GOING TO LOOK LIKE AFTER THIS POLICY GETS IMPLEMENTED? THAT IS ACTUALLY AN ELEMENT THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO GET INVOLVED IN.
AND CRISTINA'S AN AMAZING JOB OF SHARING WITH US THE UPCOMING EVENTS.
BUT IT KIND OF ENDS THERE. WE'RE NOT REALLY DOING MUCH.
WE'RE LIKE, WE'D LOVE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE WE'RE REALLY TAKING THAT NEXT STEP OF SAYING, IS THERE ANYONE THAT CAN BE INVOLVED FROM THIS BOARD? LIKE, WHAT DO WE DO? AND WE'RE VERY MINDFUL OF QUORUMS AND ALL OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WITH, BUT WANTING TO BE ABLE TO CERTAINLY DO THAT FROM THE BEGINNING OF THAT OF THE EVENTS.
AND I THINK YOU SHOULD TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE COLLABORATION. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, ADAM, THAT FOR THIS NEXT MEETING COMING UP, AND WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THIS, WE HAVE LAURIE AND CASH COMING TO GIVE A SPEECH ON SERVICE DOGS.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO DO MORE NEW THINGS TO THIS BOARD AND TO THE MEETINGS THAT MAYBE PEOPLE WILL START WATCHING, COMING AND GAINING INFORMATION ON. SO WE HOPE TO BRING THAT SPEAKER AND WE ARE COPYING HISTORICAL DIRECTLY AND WATCHING THEM DO THAT IN THE SUCCESS THAT THAT BRINGS.
I HOPE YOU DON'T GET STUCK WATCHING IT. WE DON'T WANT THAT.
THERE WAS LIKE TWO HOURS AND 15 MINUTES. WE DON'T, WE DO NOT SEE THAT.
I REALLY SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, OUR PURPOSE IS GOING TO BE TO AND THIS IS OUR GOAL AND IT'S A VISION.
AND WE'LL BE GETTING THERE. AND WE'LL HAVE NEW MEMBERS COMING ON OUR BOARD.
SO WE'LL BE ONBOARDING THEM WITH THIS VISION THAT WE LOOK AT THE ACTIVITIES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE WITH CHRISTINE'S STAFF, AND PICK 2 OR 3 AND SEE HOW WE CAN IMPROVE UPON IT.
AND THEN CERTAINLY HAVING PEOPLE WORK ON THESE, THESE ACTIVITIES TO BRING MORE VISIBILITY.
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WE ARE WE CAN CERTAINLY MEET MORE THAN THE THREE TIMES, BUT TYPICALLY IT'S THE THREE TIMES.AND LIKE A LOT OF US WERE INTIMIDATED BY THAT AS NEW BOARD MEMBERS.
WE BARELY UNDERSTOOD OUR ROLES, AND MANY PEOPLE HAVE JUST LEFT BEFORE WE REALLY EVEN GOT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET PEOPLE ENGAGED. I WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING A CITIZEN WITHIN THE TOWN.
I AGAIN DO NOT WANT TO CHANGE WHAT THEY GOT IT.
WE WANT TO SERVE A PURPOSE. AND MY HOPE IS, AS WE TRY TO KEEP BOARD MEMBERS THAT WILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND BEGIN TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW WE CAN BE BETTER SUPPORT TO HER AND THE STAFF.
WELL, YOU ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. SO YOU CAN CHECK THAT BOX I WANTED TO ORGANIZE.
AND YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN PRESENT. I'VE SEEN YOU AT EVENTS, SO IT'S GOOD.
I WANTED TO JUMP IN FOR A FEW MINUTES. I'VE SERVED ON THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD SINCE 2021, I THINK. SO, ABOUT FOUR YEARS, AND FROM AN HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE, THE BOARD WAS ESTABLISHED TO FULFILL SOME STATUTORY REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHY THE AGENDA WAS SO SUCCINCT. IT WAS HIGHLY PRESCRIPTIVE.
AND SO THIS BOARD DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANY AGENDA ITEMS. IT WAS REALLY LIKE, THOU SHALT DO THIS AND THIS AND THIS, AND THEN YOU'RE DONE.
AND WHILE THREE MINUTES IS A TINY EXAGGERATION, HONESTLY, THERE WERE MANY MEETINGS WHEN IT REALLY WAS 6 OR 7 MINUTES AND THEN IT'S ADJOURNED BECAUSE THAT WAS THE AGENDA. SO I DO SEE SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS COMING FORWARD ON THE AGENDA OF MORE MEANINGFUL WORK.
AND THEN THEY FIND OUT IT'S STATUTORY REQUIREMENT AND THAT'S ALL YOU GET TO DO.
LIKE BASICALLY BE A BODY AND A CHAIR. SO I REALLY WANT TO GIVE MY TEAMMATES A GREATER OPPORTUNITY.
IT'S GOING TO BE SO AWESOME. YEAH. THANK YOU. I LOVE THE ENERGY.
DO YOU? I JUST WANT TO RELAY ALL THE THE POSITIVE COMMENTS.
AWESOME PRESENTATION. SUPER EXCITED FOR IT. WHEN YOU ALL COME BACK TO US IN MAY JUNE FOR THE KIND OF REPORT OUT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW IT'S WORKING. ABSOLUTELY.
THERE'S CHANGES THAT WE NEED TO MAKE. LET'S DISCUSS THOSE.
AND IF THERE'S IMPROVEMENTS. ONE QUESTION. I DID HAVE THE CADENCE OF THE MEETINGS.
DID WHAT IS THE CURRENT CADENCE? YOU MENTIONED THREE MEETINGS, BUT DO WE NEED TO INCREASE IT JUST TO YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT THAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE TO ADD ANOTHER MEETING, BUT THAT'S AT OUR DISCRETION.
SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS NEXT MEETING WITH THE NEW PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON BOARD.
AND I THINK WHAT'S GOING TO BE IMPORTANT WITH THAT, CHRIS, THE NEW PEOPLE COMING ON BOARD TO REALLY ONBOARD THEM AND SET THE EXPECTATION THAT WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING AT THE SHELTER, THAT'S NOT OUR JOB.
AND I THINK PEOPLE COME IN THINKING, OH, I CAN DO THIS.
BUT SO I THINK ONBOARDING IS GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT WITH THESE NEW PEOPLE.
BUT YEAH, I DO. I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE AND WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SOME MISTAKES AND SOME THINGS ARE GOING TO WORK AND SOME THINGS AREN'T, BUT WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE. AND SO BY NEXT MAY, HOPEFULLY I'M STILL AROUND, GOD WILLING THAT I WILL BE SO PROUD TO PRESENT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING.
WE ALREADY WOULD WE? WE HAD A REALLY LONG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MEETINGS KIND OF CADENCE IN OUR LAST MEETING, AND WE DECIDED TO LEAVE IT AT THE MINIMUM REQUIRED OF THREE.
CHRISTINE HAD SOME GREAT FEEDBACK. BACK. OBVIOUSLY, IF WE'RE NOT ON THIS BOARD AT SOME POINT THAT THERE MAY BE A SHIFT IN WHAT OTHERS WANT TO DO. AND IT'S CERTAINLY WE'RE TRYING TO BE VERY MINDFUL OF HER TIME AND DOCTOR REID'S TIME AND PEOPLE THAT ARE ARE WORKING WITHIN THIS SYSTEM AND NOT THE VOLUNTEER SIDE OF THAT.
AND SO WE ALREADY KNOW THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE FOUR FOR THIS NEXT UPCOMING YEAR, AND THEN WE'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE GOT TO DO BEYOND THAT.
SOUNDS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR PRESENTING.
SO DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS TONIGHT? YEP. ANYONE? YEAH, IT. I DON'T,
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MOTION. I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN ACTION ITEM. IT'S JUST GIVING STAFF DIRECTION.THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT. COOL. VERY GOOD.
[M. CLOSED MEETING]
SECTION 071, 072, 074 AND 087.[N. RECONVENE]
SO IT IS NOW 8:29 AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.THIS EVENING. GOOD NIGHT. FLOWER MOUND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.