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GOOD EVENING FLOWER MOUND. THE TIME IS NOW 6 P.M..
[A. CALL TO ORDER]
WE ARE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER. TONIGHT WE ARE GOING TO BE LED IN OUR INVOCATION BY CHAPLAIN JERRY SPEIGHT.THANK YOU. WOULD YOU BOW IN PRAYER? FATHER, WE DO GIVE YOU THANKS FOR THIS BEAUTIFUL DAY THAT YOU HAVE MADE, AND WE REJOICE IN IT. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO MEET TOGETHER, AND WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU PROVIDE FOR US ON A DAILY BASIS.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE CITY IN WHICH WE ENJOY LIVING.
WE PRAY FOR YOUR WISDOM AND YOUR GUIDANCE IN EVERYTHING THAT'S TO BE DISCUSSED THIS EVENING, AND WE ASK THAT WE WOULD HONOR YOU IN ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE HERE.
AND WE THANK YOU AND REJOICE IN ALL THAT IS ACCOMPLISHED.
AND WE PRAY THIS IN YOUR NAME. AMEN. AMEN. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
OKAY. WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS, SO I WILL COME DOWN THERE.
[D. PRESENTATION(S)]
OKAY. WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR HOMETOWN HERO JOSEPH CIMINNA.WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP HERE? IT'S ALL ABOUT YOU.
DO YOU WANT YOUR FAMILY TO COME UP RIGHT NOW WHILE WE READ THE PROCLAMATION.
OKAY. SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR YOU. WHEREAS JOSEPH R CIMINNA THE THIRD GRADUATED FROM FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL IN 2019, AND HE ENLISTED IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY AND GRADUATED FROM BOOT CAMP IN GREAT LAKES, ILLINOIS IN 2020. AND HE COMPLETED TWO DEPLOYMENTS ON BOARD THE THEODORE ROOSEVELT AIRCRAFT CARRIER IN THE CHINA SEAS AND MIDDLE EAST. AND WHEREAS HE HE EARNED THE TITLE OF AVIATION [INAUDIBLE] MATE EQUIPMENT THIRD CLASS BEFORE LEAVING THE NAVY, AND HE NOW BEGINS HIS NEXT CHAPTER AS A LOCAL FIREFIGHTER IN DENTON COUNTY.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AND ALL OUR CITIZENS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE THE AND HONOR OUR OWN HOMETOWN HERO, JOSEPH R CIMINNA THE THIRD [APPLAUSE].
THANK YOU. IT WAS YOU KNOW, 2020 WHEN I JOINED THE NAVY, I REALLY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH IDEA OF HOW THINGS WOULD GO.
BUT I AM EXTREMELY BLESSED AND EXTREMELY THANKFUL FOR EVERYONE STANDING UP HERE.
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I WOULD NOT HAVE GONE THROUGH WHAT I WENT THROUGH AND GONE THROUGH THE TRIALS AND TRIBULATIONS THAT I WENT THROUGH WITHOUT THEM, AND WITHOUT THE FRIENDS THAT I HAD. GROWN OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS, THOSE WHO ARE STILL SERVING AND THOSE BACK HOME.SO WITH THAT THIS IS AMAZING. THANK YOU. AND YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF IT.
MIC] OKAY. OUR NEXT PRESENTATION IS ACTUALLY, I GET TO BE PRESENTED IN THIS ONE. SO RECOGNITIONS OF THE FLOWER MOUND CITIZENS ACADEMY.
SO JUST TO PART OF THE PRESENTATION INCLUDES A PROGRAM OVERVIEW.
SO JUST SOME BACKGROUND THE CITIZENS ACADEMY WAS REINTRODUCED IN 2015.
ENROLLMENT FOR THIS 10TH ACADEMY OPENED IN 2024.
22 OF THE 28 PARTICIPANTS MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
YES, THEY HAD TO ATTEND A COUNCIL MEETING AND STAY FOR AT LEAST ONE REGULAR ITEM.
SOMETIMES THAT CAN BE TWO HOURS, SO GOOD FOR THEM.
AND THEY ALSO COULD NOT MISS MORE THAN TWO SESSIONS.
SO AND IF Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ANN KHAN DEPUTY TOWN SECRETARY, SHE'S LIKE A TEACHER.
SO SHE HELD THEM TO THAT. WE LOVE YOU, ANN. AND TWO PARTICIPANTS FROM THE CLASS OF 2024 ACTUALLY TOOK US UP ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE UP FOR A MISSED SESSION LAST YEAR AND WILL BE GRADUATING WITH THIS YEAR'S CLASS, FIRST TIME TO DO THAT SO YAY FOR THEM.
AFTER TODAY, 184 CITIZENS WILL HAVE GRADUATED FROM THE CITIZENS ACADEMY.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE GATHERING FEEDBACK FROM THEM BECAUSE WE THINK AN EVALUATION IS IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE ONLY GET BETTER BY THE FEEDBACK AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE HEAR, SO THAT WE CAN IMPROVE UPON IT BASED ON THAT INFORMATION AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING RIGHT NOW. SO THEIR SESSIONS INCLUDED, I'M NOT GOING TO READ EVERY ONE OF THEM, BUT THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE COVERED IN THE TWO HOURS FOR EACH SESSION AND NEW THIS YEAR WITH THE COORDINATION OF JAMES AND HIS OFFICE, WE COMBINED THE TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE AND STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLANNING TOGETHER AND AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STANDALONE SESSION.
SO OF OUR TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 27 HOURS INVOLVEMENT SO GOOD FOR YOU GUYS.
AND SESSION AND STAFF FACILITATORS I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY THANK YOU TO BOTH COUNCIL, AS WELL AS ALL THE STAFF FACILITATORS THAT PARTICIPATED IN PROVIDING THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND EXPERTISE ON THE SUBJECT.
AND I THINK A PICTURE IS WORTH A THOUSAND WORDS.
SO I DO HAVE JUST A BRIEF ONE MINUTE VIDEO TO SHOW YOU WHAT THEY'VE BEEN UP TO.
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SO AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY WERE VERY, VERY, VERY BUSY.SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THEM RECITE A PLEDGE.
MAKING SURE ANN'S RIGHT HERE WITH THE CLICKER.
THANK YOU ANN. AND MICROPHONE. AND CLASS IF YOU WOULD ALL STAND.
ONE, TWO TEST ONE, TWO. OKAY. AND YOU'LL REPEAT AFTER ME.
AND RAISE YOUR. RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND AND REPEAT AFTER ME.
AS A GRADUATE OF FLOWER MOUND CITIZEN'S ACADEMY.
AS A GRADUATE OF FLOWER MOUND CITIZENS ACADEMY.
I AM AN AMBASSADOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
I AM AN AMBASSADOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.
AND WILL DO MY BEST TO. AND WILL DO MY BEST TO.
BE A WELL INFORMED, RESPONSIBLE CITIZEN OF FLOWER MOUND .
INFORM OTHERS OF MATTERS FACING THE TOWN. ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW CITIZENS TO ENGAGE IN LOCAL ISSUES.
ENCOURAGE MY FELLOW CITIZENS TO ENGAGE IN LOCAL ISSUES.
I PLEDGE THIS BECAUSE. I PLEDGE THIS BECAUSE. I BELIEVE IN ENGAGED CITIZENRY.
I BELIEVE IN ENGAGED CITIZENRY. MAKES FLOWER MOUND A STRONGER COMMUNITY.
MAKES FLOWER MOUND A STRONGER COMMUNITY. CONGRATULATIONS [APPLAUSE].
SO NOW FOR ALL OF YOU AT HOME OR IN THE AUDIENCE THAT'S WONDERING, HOW CAN I PARTICIPATE IN NEXT YEAR'S CITIZENS ACADEMY? WE OPEN ENROLLMENT IN NOVEMBER OF EACH YEAR UNTIL 28 APPLICATIONS ARE RECEIVED, OR ONE WEEK BEFORE THE SESSION START, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST, AND YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR THE TOWNS NOTIFY ME NEWS ALERTS WHICH THE CITIZENS ACADEMY ALL HAVE SIGNED UP FOR, AND THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT. AND SESSIONS BEGIN IN JANUARY AND THEY CONCLUDE IN MARCH.
AND THERE'S OUR CONTACT INFORMATION, SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
GOT MY WRONG READERS ON TONIGHT SO I CAN'T I CAN'T SEE VERY WELL.
OKAY. WE HAVE ANOTHER PROCLAMATION. SO WE ARE DOING A PROCLAMATION FOR CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION WITH CASA OF DENTON COUNTY.
SO I'M GOING TO HAVE ASHLEE MUHLBERGER COME UP FROM SHE'S THE CASA CASEWORK SUPERVISOR AND DEB FINLEY, THE BOARD MEMBER. HELLO. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION TO YOU ALL. WHEREAS THERE WERE 577 CHILDREN AFFECTED BY ABUSE AND NEGLECT, SERVED BY CASA OF DENTON COUNTY IN 2024, AND MORE THAN 200 MORE THAN 204 VOLUNTEERS FROM DENTON COUNTY WORK WITH THE ORGANIZATION, GIVING ANNUALLY, GIVING 20,679 SERVICE HOURS OF THEIR TIME, AND DRIVING 217,982 MILES TO ENSURE SAFETY FOR OUR COMMUNITY'S CHILDREN.
NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM APRIL 2025 AS CHILD ABUSE PREVENTION MONTH AND I COMMEND THE WORK OF CASA OF DENTON COUNTY. VOLUNTEERS AND STAFF AND ADVOCATING FOR CHILDREN DURING THIS DIFFICULT TIME IN THEIR LIVES.
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I RECOMMEND ANYBODY GET INVOLVED WITH CASA. IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION.THANK YOU. OKAY, JAMES, YOU YOU HAD A PRESENTATION AS WELL FOR PUBLIC WORKS. I'M GOING TO HAND IT OVER. I WANTED TO CALL UP A QUICK AUDIBLE.
OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT RECEIVED A PRESTIGIOUS AWARD, AND WE'D LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND RECOGNIZE IT AT THIS TIME RATHER THAN THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT. SO I'M GOING TO THROW IT OVER TO BRIAN WATTENBERG, OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
THANK YOU. JAMES. THANKS, COUNCIL. THANK YOU MAYOR.
YEAH. JAMES JAMES SAID IT SAID IT ACCURATELY.
WE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WAS NAMED THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT OF THE YEAR AT A PREVIOUSLY AT A CONFERENCE HERE BY THE BY WHEAT THE ASSOCIATION FOR WATER ENVIRONMENT. TEXAS. A LOT OF YOU SITTING HERE MAY NOT EVEN KNOW WE HAVE A TREATMENT PLANT.
SO THIS IS OUR TREATMENT PLANT. THIS IS LOCATED OOPS.
THIS IS LOCATED DOWN HERE. ACTUALLY, THERE WAS A STAR, BUT IT'S HERE ON SPINKS ROAD, KIND OF NEAR BAKERSFIELD BALLPARK, IF YOU GUYS KNOW WHERE THAT IS. THIS IS THE TREATMENT PLANT.
THIS IS SOME HISTORICAL PHOTOS OF IT. IT WAS OPENED IN 1972.
WE AND ALL OF THESE ARE LISTED ARE EXCERPTS FROM THE AWARD PRESENTATION.
WE MAINTAIN AN OPERATIONAL RECORDS TO PLANT, TO TRACK OUR PLANT PERFORMANCE AND AND SUPPORT OUR LONG TERM PLANNING EFFORTS AND TO ADDRESS EQUIPMENT AGING AND REGULATORY CHANGES.
WE DEVELOP PROACTIVE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AND WE PLACE A STRONG EMPHASIS ON WORKPLACE SAFETY.
SO THESE EFFORTS CONTRIBUTED TO STRONG SAFETY, WITH ZERO LOST TIME INCIDENTS IN 23 AND 24.
THE TEAM, LED BY PLANT MANAGER CURTIS WILLIAMS AND ACTUALLY HAVE SOME OF THE GUYS BACK HERE.
IF YOU GUYS WANT TO COME ON UP OVER HERE, YOU CAN.
I'D LIKE TO GET A PICTURE OF YOU ALL, BUT CURTIS WILLIAMS IS HERE TONIGHT.
SO WE GOT BARON. WE GOT GAVIN CURTIS, CLAYTON ARMANDO AND AND MANNY PALACIOS.
AND SO THIS WAS A COUPLE WEEKS AGO OR TWO WEEKS AGO, I THINK AT THE TEXAS WATER CONFERENCE.
WE WERE AWARDED THE MUNICIPAL TREATMENT PLAN OF THE YEAR.
BUT ULTIMATELY, THAT AWARD ACKNOWLEDGES A MUNICIPAL WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT HAS CONSISTENTLY EXHIBITED OUTSTANDING PERFORMANCE OF DAILY ACTIVITIES BEYOND THE NORMAL CALL OF DUTY. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY, WELL, FIRST OFF, I WANT TO THANK COUNCIL AND TOWN MANAGEMENT BECAUSE YOU GUYS PROVIDE US THE BACK, YOU KNOW, THE BACKING TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE. BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S STAFF.
AND YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS NOT EVERYBODY'S HERE TODAY.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS BEING HERE. AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR FOR YOUR COMMITMENT TO THE TOWN.
THANKS, GUYS. I APPRECIATE YOU. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PUBLIC COMMENTS CARDS. IF YOU NEED TO FILL OUT ANY YOU CAN GIVE THOSE TO TERESA OVER HERE IF YOU WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.SO WE ARE STILL ALLOWING THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, JUST NOT DONATED TIME.
SO IF YOU JUST KIND OF COME UP ONE AFTER ANOTHER, JUST DON'T FORGET TO SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING, EVEN IF YOU'RE CONTINUING THE THE WRITTEN SPEECH THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND THEN DO I WILL GO AHEAD AND CALL THE NEXT PERSON AS ONE PERSON HAS CALLED UP, I'LL CALL THE NEXT PERSON SO YOU CAN COME UP TO A SEAT IN FRONT AND BE READY TO SPEAK, BECAUSE WE WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING.
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OKAY. AND KEEP IN MIND TOO, THAT COUNCIL DURING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT, COUNCIL IS NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO MAKE COMMENT.SO WHATEVER YOU'RE SAYING, THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A RESPONSE TO THAT TONIGHT.
OKAY. THE FIRST SPEAKER THAT WE HAVE IS TIM HE'S NOT.
AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE LEAH OR LAY FERGUSON.
HELLO. I'M TIM HUNDRED. OLYMPIA'S MY ADDRESS.
THE. I'VE BEEN TO THEIR HOUSES. I'VE BEEN IN MEETINGS HERE.
AND MARTIN WAS IN ONE OF THE MEETINGS, AND I KNOW THAT Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS ISSUE, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'VE, I'VE TRIED TO TEMPER SOME OF THE ANGER AND THE FRUSTRATION THAT THEY HAVE, BUT I THINK THAT WILL COME OUT AND THEY MAY NOT SAY THE EXACT RIGHT WORD, BUT THEIR INTENT IS IS WELL MEANING. AND SO IF YOU IF YOU COULD TRY TO USE SOME OF THAT CRAFTINESS THAT I HAVE SEEN YOU USE IN THE PAST TO TO RESOLVE THIS, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. WE HAVE LEE FERGUSON AND THEN NEXT IS JOEL WEBER.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LEE FERGUSON.
I WORK FOR ATMOS ENERGY AND OUR OFFICE ADDRESS IS 1400 PEYTON PLACE IN CARROLLTON, TEXAS.
I WANTED TO COME TO SAY HELLO TO YOU ALL. I AM YOUR NEW REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COMPANY.
I'VE BEEN IN THE IN PLACE SINCE JANUARY. AND I ALSO WANTED TO USE THIS TIME TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE TOWN LEADERS AND THE RESIDENTS THAT APRIL IS NATIONAL SAFE DIGGING MONTH.
AND SO THIS IS A REMINDER THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO A DIGGING PROJECT ANYWHERE ON YOUR PROPERTY, YOU NEED TO CALL. ACTUALLY, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO CALL 811 SO THEY CAN LOCATE THE UTILITIES.
WELL, THAT THAT WILL ENSURE, YOU KNOW, A SAFE PROJECT AND ALSO FOR ATMOS SAKE.
THIRD PARTY HITS ARE THE LEADING CAUSE OF LEAKS IN OUR SYSTEM.
SO APRIL IS NATIONAL SAFE DIGGING MONTH, AND YOUR TOWN STAFF HAVE AGREED TO PUT OUT SOME COMMUNICATIONS TO REMIND PEOPLE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY HELLO AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. OKAY.
AFTER JOEL WEBER, WE HAVE MARCIA GAVIT. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
SO IT'S NICE TO BE HERE TODAY WITH ALL YOU GUYS.
I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY.
MY NAME IS JOEL WEBER. I WORK, I WORK AS A LANDSCAPE DESIGNER, AND I LIVE AT 7000 WOODRIDGE.
WOODRIDGE DRIVE. THE REASON I'M HERE TODAY IS TO DISCUSS KNIGHTS LANDING.
AND I'VE WATCHED THE GROWTH OF THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND IT'S BEEN REALLY CONCERNING ME TO SEE, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AFTER DEVELOPMENT SORT OF START TO TAKE AWAY THE CHARACTER OF THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND, WHICH IS WHAT MADE ME FEEL LIKE THIS PLACE WAS HOME.
AND SO IT'S A VERY DEAR THING TO ME. AND NOW IT'S ONCE AGAIN ON MY FRONT DOOR.
THE FIRST PAGE OF THE LITTLE HANDOUT THAT YOU GUYS HAVE IS THE LAND THAT WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT.
DID THE DEVELOPER HAS SUBMITTED PLANS THAT SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF ISSUES NOT ADDRESSING STORMWATER.
NOT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE HAD.
AND IT'S A REALLY UNFORTUNATE MISSED OPPORTUNITY FOR THERE TO BE A MORE CREATIVE PROCESS FOR CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND OF ALL OF THE IF THERE WAS ANY PROPERTY THAT SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, IT WOULD BE THIS PROPERTY.
I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THESE TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.
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FROM A LANDSCAPE DESIGN PERSPECTIVE. I WORK IN CITIES ALL OVER THE METROPLEX FROM FRISCO.I WORK IN THE PGA TO PROSPER. I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH DRAINAGE ISSUES.
AND I'M ALSO FAMILIAR WITH WORKING AROUND WHAT CHARACTER IS EXISTING AND CREATING A DESIGN THAT ACTUALLY TAKES INTO ACCOUNT THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE. THERE'S ALSO A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING CREEK BED.
YOU'RE CHANGING NON PERMEABLE TO PERMEABLE. AND THERE'S THIS REALLY INTERESTING THING ABOUT HOW WE HAVE ALL THIS DATA THAT WE'RE NOT BRINGING ANY MORE WATER IN, BUT THERE'S ALREADY CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT NOT EVEN CHANGING FROM PERMEABLE TO NON PERMEABLE IS CAUSING FLOODING AND EXTREME DAMAGE TO A PROPERTY OWNER DOWN THE STREET JUST FROM THE VEGETATION REMOVAL THAT'S HAPPENED ON THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS WITHOUT ANY DEVELOPMENT. SO I WOULD URGE YOU TO PLEASE NOT ALLOW THIS DEVELOPMENT TO GO FORWARD WITHOUT FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND TO JUST TAKE MORE TIME AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE RESIDENTS.
AND IT'S REALLY CAUSED A LOT OF CONCERN FOR RESIDENTS.
TRY TO ASK YOU GUYS TO TAKE CARE OF OUR TOWN THAT WE LOVE VERY DEARLY.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE THIS MOMENT RIGHT NOW TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT, BECAUSE. COUNCIL IS NOT ALLOWED TO INTERACT WITH THE SPEAKERS DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
BUT I'VE HEARD PEOPLE ASKING COUNCIL TO DO TO DENY.
I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK COUNCIL ISN'T LISTENING TO YOU OKAY? OR THAT THEY'RE NOT SYMPATHETIC PATHETIC AT ALL.
BUT AT THIS TIME, THE TOWN CANNOT LEGALLY STOP THIS DEVELOPMENT FROM MOVING FORWARD.
SO IT'S AT THIS POINT, THIS IS A SITUATION WE'RE CURRENTLY IN WITH KNIGHTS LANDING.
OKAY. SO MARCIA, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND THEN WE HAVE DUANE FRANCIS IS NEXT.
I NEED HELP WITH THIS UP HERE. JUST A MOMENT.
UP THERE. YOUR NAME? OKAY. OKAY. I'M NOT CONTROLLING. OKAY? NO, THE FIRST ONE. OKAY.
YEAH. MARCIA GAVITT 6501 MEADOWCREST LANE. PICTURE ONE IS STANDING ON SUNSET TRAIL. TO THE RIGHT IS KNIGHTS LANDING, ONE WHICH SLOPES DOWN TO SURVEYORS LOOKING TO THE LEFT.
KNIGHTS LANDING TWO, WHICH SLOPES DOWN TO MIRACLE LANE.
HOW DO I MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE? OKAY, SO YOU CAN TELL THAT THE SLOPE GOING DOWNHILL RIGHT THERE, ASCENDING ON SUNSET TRAIL, LOOKING THAT DIRECTION.
THE PROPERTY. MIRACLE LANE IS EITHER IN THE FLOODPLAIN OR NEXT TO THE FLOODPLAIN.
BUT THEY ALSO GET SOME DRAINAGE FROM THE SMITH PROPERTY.
OKAY. THE HOMES THAT BACK UP TO THE KNIGHTS LANDING TWO, THEY'VE ALREADY MARKED ALL THE TREES, INCLUDING THE ONES RIGHT UP AGAINST THE FENCE TO THE NEIGHBORS.
NOW THESE ARE GOING TO REMOVE A LOT OF STORM WATER ABSORPTION.
AND WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO REMOVE A NATURAL TREE BUFFER RIGHT NOW? OKAY. THIS IS THE DRY CREEK AT MIRACLE LANE COMING IN FROM SHILOH ROAD ON ONE END.
THIS IS A FLOODPLAIN FROM A REALTOR'S MAP. THE PURPLE IS THE FLOODPLAIN.
THE RED MARKS KNIGHTS LANDING, ONE KNIGHTS LANDING, KNIGHTS LANDING TWO, AND TOLL BROTHERS.
AND THERE'S MIRACLE LANE, THE LITTLE SEVEN IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY.
SO 30 YEARS AGO, ONLY THREE SQUARE FEET OF THAT HOME ON MIRACLE LANE WAS IN THE FLOODPLAIN.
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NOW ALL OF IT IS SO. AN INDEPENDENT STUDY FOR ADDITIONAL STORMWATER MANAGEMENT IS NEEDED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, SUCH AS PIPING UNDER A SUNSET TRAIL IN SHILOH AND FINDING SOLUTIONS FOR EASEMENTS OUT OF CONCERNS FOR OUR EXISTING RESIDENTS, I APPEAL TO PROPERTY OWNERS AND DEVELOPERS TO TO DELAY WORK ON KNIGHTS LANDING ONE AND TWO AND THE TOLL BROTHERS PROPERTY UNTIL A CURRENT INDEPENDENT, COMPREHENSIVE STUDY CAN BE COMPLETED. I NOW I HAVE A SHORT VIDEO.I NEED TO GET IT. I KNOW HOW TO GET OUT OF THIS.
I'LL GET THAT. I'LL LET YOU GO A LITTLE LONGER JUST BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
OH, THERE IT IS. OKAY. THIS IS THE EMPTY CREEK BED I JUST SHOWED YOU.
I DID HAVE A SHORTER VERSION, BUT IT WASN'T RECEIVED VERY WELL, SO.
FOR THE SPEAKER ON DUANE FRANCIS IS NEXT. AND THEN AFTER THAT, LUCILLE DELVECCHIO.
GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL AND MEMBERS STAFF.
MY NAME IS DUANE FRANCIS. I LIVE AT 3916 BELSHAM DRIVE, AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE SUMMIT CLUB OF FLOWER MOUND, A SERVICE FOCUSED MEN'S ORGANIZATION THAT'S BEEN ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY FOR OVER 50 YEARS.
I WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO SHARE A QUICK UPDATE ON OUR UPCOMING APRIL ACTIVITIES.
THIS SATURDAY, APRIL 12TH, WE WILL BE RAISING THE CROSSES ON THE FLOWER MOUND.
THIS IS OUR OLDEST TRADITION AND WE INVITE EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO JOIN US AT 9 A.M.
ON FRIDAY, APRIL 18TH, WE'LL BE SMOKING EASTER HAMS TO RAISE FUNDS FOR RESTORATION OF ENGINE 343 343 IS FLOWER MOUND ORIGINAL FIRE TRUCK THAT IS BEING PAINSTAKINGLY RESTORED BY OUR FIREFIGHTER ASSOCIATION.
WE ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO PURCHASE THEIR EASTER HAMS ON OUR WEBSITE.
SUMMER CLUB ORG. APRIL 20TH IS THE 51ST ANNUAL EASTER SUNRISE SERVICE ON THE FLOWER MOUND.
THIS YEAR'S SERVICE WILL BE HOSTED BY TRINITY TRINITY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.
THE SERVICE WILL BEGIN AT 6:30 A.M. AND WILL CULMINATE AT SUNRISE.
RISE. WE WILL BE TAKING THE CROSSES DOWN ON SATURDAY, APRIL 26TH AT 9 A.M..
WE INVITE THE PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT AS WELL.
IF ANYONE HERE OR IN THE COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN JOINING OR LEARNING MORE, WE WELCOME YOU TO VISIT US AT SUMMER CLUB ORG OR COME MEET US AT IN PERSON AT AN UPCOMING EVENT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I'LL LET YOU DO TO SUPPORT FLOWER MOUND.
HEY, YOU GUYS ARE EVERYWHERE I LOVE I LOVE THE SUMMER CLUB.
LUCILLE DEVECCHIO. AND THEN NEXT IS ROBBIE WATERS.
MY NAME IS LUCILLE DELVECCHIO AND I LIVE AT 7003 WOODRIDGE DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.
I WANT TO TALK TO YOU TODAY ABOUT SOMETHING RELATED TO THE DRAINAGE IN OUR AREA.
AND SO WE WE THEN ANOTHER RESIDENT AND I TALKED ABOUT IT, AND SHE ORDERED A PUBLIC INFORMATION REQUEST ASKING FOR ALL THE CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT HAD BEEN DONE IN FLOWER MOUND FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS, SPECIFICALLY FOR THE CROSS TIMBERS.
BUT SHE GOT THE ENTIRE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND INSTEAD.
AND SO I PAINSTAKINGLY TOOK THAT THAT INFORMATION, WHICH YOU HAVE A COPY OF RIGHT NOW, PRETTY THICK, HUNDREDS OF CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THEIR HUNDREDS.
AND SO I SCOURED THROUGH THAT TO LOOK FOR THOSE THAT HAD BEEN IN THE AREA OF THE CROSS TIMBERS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STUDYING, AND YOU'LL KNOW IT'LL BE HARD TO FIND, BUT THERE ARE SEVEN IN OUT OF HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN 20 YEARS, HAVING BEEN SPENT ON OTHER PROJECTS IN FLOWER MOUND.
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THERE ARE PARKS, NONE IN THAT AREA. THERE ARE OTHER ROAD CONSTRUCTION.ZERO. FACILITIES? OF COURSE THERE ARE NONE. BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS THAT THE SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THESE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING YOU TO USE THEIR TAXPAYER DOLLARS FOR IS VERY SMALL IN COMPARISON TO WHAT OTHER RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN GRANTED IN OTHER PLACES IN THE TOWN.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY EQUITY HERE, AND AS YOU ALL DID NOT KNOW UNTIL JUST RECENTLY ABOUT THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM, I WOULD I WOULD GUESS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ONLY BEEN SEVEN PROJECTS, ONE ON RANGE.
WELL, TWO ON RAINTREE. ONE ON VALLEY VIEW. THREE ON HIGH ROAD AND ONE IN REDBUD.
AND I HAVE THOSE THAT I'LL GIVE TO YOU TO THESE SEVEN PROJECTS.
I JUST THINK THAT YOU NEED TO FIND OUT WHY THE DISPARITY IS, WHY THE STAFF IS SUGGESTING PROJECTS THAT HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ENTIRE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, JUST CERTAIN PARTS OF FLOWER MOUND.
SO I JUST WANT YOU TO BE AWARE OF THIS. AND I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE ROBBIE WATERS, AND THEN NEXT WE HAVE STEVEN WOOD.
TEACHER AT FLOWER MOUND NINE AND 27 YEAR HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACHING VETERAN.
HERE TO UPDATE YOU ON OUR CURRENT STATUS AND WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.
LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, WE TALKED ABOUT 225 PLAYERS, 11 TEAMS THROUGH FALL TACKLE FOOTBALL.
PROUD TO ANNOUNCE THAT OUR SPRING HAS TAKEN OFF.
WE HAVE NOW ANOTHER 280 KIDS THAT ARE PARTICIPATING IN SPRING FOOTBALL.
IF YOU LOOK ON THE SPRING SIDE OF OF OF OUR AGENDA.
WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT SKUS, SO TO SPEAK, THAT WE'RE OFFERING RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE WORKING EVERY SUNDAY WITH THOSE YOUNG MEN.
WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS, 100% VOLUNTEER ADULTS WORKING WITH THEM, HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACHES FROM CARROLLTON, FROM MARCUS, FROM FLOWER MOUND AND MYSELF. IN ADDITION TO THAT, THERE IS A SPORT CALLED SEVEN ON SEVEN.
DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT. ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, TEXAS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL DECIDED THEY COULDN'T WORK WITH THEIR KIDS ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY WERE ONLY THEY WERE GOVERNED TO WORK WITH THE ATHLETES DURING THE SCHOOL PERIOD.
SO SMART ON THEIR BEHALF. THEY MADE UP THREE SPORTS WHERE THEY COULD WORK WITH KIDS AFTER SCHOOL.
THAT WAS POWER LIFTING FOR LINEMEN, OFFENSE AND DEFENSIVE LINEMEN, SEVEN ON SEVEN FOR SKILL PLAYERS.
AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE'RE PARTICIPATING IN SEVEN ON SEVEN, TYPICALLY ONLY SEEN AT THE HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL, WHERE YOU GO TO STATE QUALIFIERS AND COMPETE AT THE STATE LEVEL TO GO WIN A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP IN COLLEGE STATION.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE MIMICKING THAT SPORT.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE FLAG FOOTBALL, EXCEPT YOU TAKE AWAY THE OFFENSIVE AND DEFENSIVE LINEMEN.
AND OUR FIRST YEAR WE HAVE FIFTH AND SIXTH GRADERS.
WE HAVE 122 KIDS PARTICIPATING AMONGST 12 TEAMS. AND WE'RE ALSO DECIDED TO OFFER EIGHTH, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH GRADE SEVEN ON SEVEN, WHERE OUR MIDDLE SCHOOL ATHLETES ARE PARTICIPATING WITH THEIR MIDDLE SCHOOLS.
SO IF YOU SIGN UP TO WANT TO PLAY AND YOU GO TO BRIER HILL OR YOU GO TO FORESTWOOD AND YOU'RE AN EIGHTH GRADER, SEVENTH GRADE, YOU'RE PARTICIPATING WITH YOUR TEAMMATES FROM YOUR SCHOOL.
IT'S PRETTY IMPRESSIVE. WITH THE GROUP THAT I'M WORKING WITH AND WHAT THEY'RE PRODUCING AND THE AMOUNT OF EXCITEMENT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO HAVE THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT OF TACKLE FOOTBALL PLAYERS IN THE FALL THAT WE THAT WE HAD RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE LOOKING AT TRYING TO REPLICATE THAT ON THREE FIELDS, WHICH IS A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE, BUT WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
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OKAY. WE HAVE STEPHEN WOOD. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE JOHN DAVID FRISCH.THAT'S RIGHT. YES. MY NAME IS STEPHEN WOOD. I LIVE AT 3032 MONET COURT IN FLOWER MOUND. I AM THE PROUD OWNER OF THAT MESS.
YOU SAW JOEL PUT UP ON THE SCREEN HERE A LITTLE WHILE AGO.
THE. THE BIG MUDDY CREEK WITH THE BROKEN TREES AND THE DESTROYED FENCE AND THE SIX FOOT OF EMBANKMENT THAT HAD BEEN WASHED AWAY BECAUSE OF KNIGHTS NIGHT'S LANDINGS. DE-THATCHING OF OF THE CREEK.
SO I'M STILL HERE. I'M. I'M NOT GOING AWAY. I'M GOING TO SEE THIS THING ALL THROUGH.
I CANNOT ACCEPT A WHAT IF SCENARIO THAT THE CURRENT MODEL PORTRAYS THE THE KNIGHTS LANDING DROWNING, DROWNING PLAN BECAUSE, SORRY CALLS THIS A METHOD WHERE I HAVE A ZERO NET OF IMPACT TO ME FROM BEFORE AND AFTER.
AND OVER TIME, THAT ISN'T TRUE. BUT THE PEAK INTENSITY LEVEL OF THE CREEK, THEY SAY, DOES NOT INCREASE. AND THE REASON THAT THAT COULD BE TRUE IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE ENGINEERED THEIR RUNOFF TO MOVE FASTER THAN NORMAL RUNOFF, SO THAT THAT WATER GENERATED BY THEIR DEVELOPMENT WILL CLEAR THE CREEK BEFORE THE WATER THAT COMES THROUGH THE CULVERT AT SUNRISE OR SUNSET COMES DOWN THAT SAME CREEK.
NOW, THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE CRAZY, DOESN'T IT? I MEAN, YOU'RE RELYING ON HAPPENSTANCE AND CHANCE FOR 30 MINUTES OF WATER TRAVEL, WHICH IS WHAT THEY ENGINEERED. 30 MINUTES OF WATER TRAVEL WAS THE LONGEST THAT THEY SAY THEIR WATER WILL TAKE TO CLEAR THE CREEK.
SO IF THE RAIN LASTS LONGER THAN 30 MINUTES, THOSE CALCULATIONS ARE WORTHLESS.
AND I'M THE ONE WHO'S GOING TO PAY THE PRICE.
I OWN BOTH SIDES OF THAT CREEK. THE WATER COMES THROUGH AT A DANGEROUS RATE.
WHEN THEY DO THESE THINGS, I'M NOT HAPPY. I THINK YOU CAN TELL.
I HAVE HAD SOME WONDERFUL CITY REPRESENTATIVES COME OUT, INCLUDING FROM ENGINEERING STAFF, AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY HELPFUL, AND THEY HAVE EXPLAINED WHAT THE STUDY DOES AND HOW IT COMPLIES WITH THE CITY'S GUIDELINES.
I CANNOT ACCEPT IT BECAUSE IT DOES NOT MAKE ANY LOGICAL SENSE.
IT MAKES SENSE ON PAPER. THE NUMBERS ADD UP, BUT IT ISN'T RIGHT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AFTER JOHN DAVID FRISCH, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE NATASHA NECHIPORENKO. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOHN DAVID FRITH.
LIKE SMITH, BUT FRITH I HAVE OWNED SOME PROPERTY AT 870 INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.
I'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO GET THE ZONING CHANGED.
ON THE PROPERTY. IS THAT AN AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT? YOU MARK THAT IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ONE THAT'S ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT? LAKESIDE EAST? YES. YEAH. WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING TO SPEAK ON THAT.
AND I'LL PUT YOU FIRST. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.
YEAH. OH, WE HAVE NATASHA. AND THEN AFTER THAT, JEANNIE FERRIER. OKAY. WELL, HELLO. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE.
AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. AND THANK YOU FOR EDUCATING US ABOUT THE PROJECT WITH THE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT IT WILL GO FOR ANYWAYS. BUT I THINK I LIVE ON 35, 14 RAINTREE DRIVE.
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US CITIZENS. AND WHAT I NOTICED THAT THERE IS A BIG DISCONNECT BETWEEN WHAT THE CITY KNOWS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING.IF YOU NOTICE, IT WAS A BIG PURPLE AND I'M A TRAINED ENGINEER.
I LOOK AT THE MAP, I'M THINKING IT'S EXPANDING. IT'S ACTUALLY EVEN THIS MAP IS INCORRECT BECAUSE I WILL SHOW YOU SOME VIDEOS FROM MY PROPERTY, AND I'M VERY LUCKY TO BE RIGHT AT THE POINT WHERE THE BIG CULVERT IS ACTUALLY HIGHER.
IT'S WAY ABOVE THE SUNSET WHEN THEY WANT TO DO JUST PATCH WORK.
KIND OF LIKE LET'S PATCH HERE, LET'S PATCH HERE, MAKE THIS BIGGER AND IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.
NONE OF THESE PLANS ARE GOING TO WORK. YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THAT'S THE CULVERT. NOW THIS IS HOW YOU DRIVE.
THIS IS WHERE IT TURNS. IT'S COMPLETELY FLOODED.
THE PASTURES ARE FLOODED. AND THIS IS WHERE THIS IS EXACTLY THE WATER THAT YOU SEE.
WE DIDN'T SEE WHERE THE WATER TURNED BECAUSE THERE IS NO FLOW.
IT'S SLOWED DOWN. WHEN THIS HAPPENS, WHEN THIS BIG CULVERT DOES NOT FLOOD INTO THE SUNSET.
BECAUSE THERE IS NO NOT ENOUGH PRESSURE. EVERYTHING BACKS UP SO YOU WILL NOT SEE PASTURES.
YOU WILL NOT SEE HORSES. AND MY HOUSE PRETTY MUCH TURNS INTO A FLOATING SHIP.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING WHICH IS NOT FLOODED. WE CANNOT USE DRAINAGE SYSTEMS BECAUSE ONCE THE CALIBER IS UNDERWATER, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT I DO UP, IT'S NOT GOING TO DRAIN.
SO WE CANNOT GET HORSES ON THE PASTURE. WE HAVE CHEMICALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE FLOATING.
YOU HAVE SEPTIC LINES UNDERWATER. DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS? I SPOKE ACTUALLY WITH ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND HE SAID, YOU CAN HAVE E-COLI FLOATING ON THE PASTURES WITH HORSES.
BUT THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND DOESN'T EVEN HAVE SEPTIC LINES.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS. NOBODY KNOWS. SO YOU HAVE A BIG HAZARDOUS THING ON YOUR HANDS IF IT WILL START FLOODING AND THE WATER WILL STAND OVER SEPTIC LINES AND GO INTO GRAPEVINE LAKE, YOU CAN HAVE AN ACTIVELY HAZARDOUS SITUATION WHICH WILL BE ESCALATING AND IT'S NOTHING NEW. IT'S BEEN THIS WAY FOR 30 YEARS.
CAN I SHOW ONE MORE VIDEO? I'LL GO BACK BECAUSE I'M NOT.
VERY UNFORTUNATELY, I'M LIMITING. OKAY. THREE MINUTES.
OKAY. JEANNIE. AND THEN DAVID WENZEL IS NEXT.
AND THEN HERE IS ACTUALLY SOME MORE DRAINAGE.
I'LL JUST HAND IT TO YOU. OKAY. I'LL WAIT FOR YOU ALL TO GET YOUR COPY THERE.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND WHAT YOU DO. I'M JEAN FERRIER AT 6604 SUNSET TRAIL.
I DON'T NEED TO SPEAK ON DRAINAGE. YOU KNOW, THE ISSUES.
BUT WE NOW HAVE KNIGHTS LANDING ONE AND KNIGHTS LANDING TWO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS. BLAKE HAS EVEN SAID THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE WATER FROM KNIGHTS LANDING.
IT'S AN ISSUE. THERE NEEDS TO BE A POST GRADING ANALYSIS DONE BEFORE ANYTHING IS APPROVED.
I'M ACTUALLY LET'S JUST GO TO THE THIRD ONE AND LEAVE IT UP THERE.
YEP. PERFECT. THANK YOU. HONEY. WE DO NOT TRUST KNIGHTS LANDING.
WE, AS IN RESIDENTS OF THE CROSS TIMBERS. AND IT HAS BEEN VERY DIFFICULT TO TRUST TOWN STAFF.
IT'S HARD TO TRUST STAFF WHEN IT FEELS LIKE WE HAVE TO PULL TEETH TO GET ADEQUATE INFORMATION.
AS OF YESTERDAY, IT'S STILL ON THEIR WEBSITE.
THE FIRST WE EVER KNEW ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT WAS WHEN THE TREE SIGNS WENT UP.
WE BEGAN SCRAMBLING, SCHEDULING MEETINGS, TRYING TO DO OUR OWN RESEARCH AND GATHER INFO.
BUT THEN JUST LAST WEEK AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING, IN PART OF THE AGENDA PACKET, WE SEE THAT THERE'S A DOCUMENT THAT HAS A 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION BUFFER AROUND KNIGHTS LANDING.
I'M IN THAT BUFFER. I NEVER RECEIVED ANYTHING.
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AND YOU CAN ASK ALL OF THE RESIDENTS BEHIND ME IF THEY RECEIVED ANYTHING AND YOU'LL BE TOLD NO.WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO SEND THAT OUT? TOWN STAFF.
KNIGHTS LANDING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT LEADS TO A LOT OF DISTRUST.
WE WERE ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. WE GOT TOOK OFF THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT.
AND A LOT OF THE DISTRUST COMES FROM WHEN COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK OVER TO COUNCIL, I MEAN TOWN STAFF.
WHEN SOMETHING IS SAID, IT MAKES US THINK, WHOOPS, WHAT DID THEY FIND OUT? WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO SAY? IT LEADS TO MORE DISTRUST.
I CAN GO THROUGH SEVERAL THINGS WITH TOWN STAFF THAT WOULD TIE BACK INTO DISTRUST.
I'M GOING TO RUN OUT OF TIME. I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT AFTERWARDS.
SLOPE IS A BIG THING. YOU CAN SIT ON MY FRONT PORCH AND SEE THAT THERE'S MORE THAN A 12% SLOPE.
WHERE DID THEY MEASURE START TO FINISH? DID THEY CHERRY PICK? IT'S OBVIOUSLY THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE A TOPOGRAPHY MAP.
YOU HAVE TO WALK THE LAND GROWTH HAPPENED TOO FAST.
DEVELOPMENT GOT PUSHED THROUGH TOO QUICKLY. YOU COULDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU DIDN'T KNOW.
TOWN STAFF KNEW. OTHERS KNEW. RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO GET HELP FOR 40 YEARS, BUT NOW YOU KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN PRESENTED WITH OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE OF A DANGEROUS AND DISASTROUS ISSUE THAT HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED.
YOU CANNOT APPROVE A SITE PLAN THAT HAS NOT ADDRESSED AND DEALT WITH THE STORMWATER DRAINAGE, AND THAT HAS NOT MET THE REQUIREMENTS OF TOWN, WHICH IS WHAT I PASSED OUT TO YOU.
YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IT WITH THE KNOWLEDGE YOU HAD AND BY RELYING ON TOWN STAFF.
YOU ARE RESIDENTS FIRST CANDIDATES. NOW IS YOUR TIME TO SHOW US THAT THAT'S TRUE.
AND AS THIS ORGANIZATIONAL CHART SHOWS, CITIZENS OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AND THERE ARE SEVERAL THAT JUST FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT BEING LISTENED TO ON THIS, LIKE EVEN IN THE WORK SESSION. JEANNIE, YOUR TIME IS UP.
THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT HERE.
OKAY. SO KEEP IN MIND WE ARE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THAT WE CAN IN THIS SITUATION.
SOME OF THESE HOMES ARE IN A FLOOD ZONE. WE ARE EMPATHETIC.
WE ARE MAKING VISITS TO THESE HOMES. THIS WEEKEND.
I'VE BEEN ON VISITS. COUNCIL HAS BEEN ON VISITS TO THESE HOMES.
WE DID PUT THIS ITEM ON OUR AGENDA FOR A WORK SESSION.
WE MADE SURE THAT THIS WAS ON A WORK SESSION.
SO THAT AFFECTS THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT. SO IT'S KIND OF IT BRINGS US BACK, WITH THOSE EXCEPTIONS WITHDRAWN BY KNIGHTS LANDING, IT CHANGES EVERYTHING IN THAT DEVELOPMENT. SO IT IS NOT A THIS IS NOT DONE.
THIS IS NOT COMPLETED. WE ARE STILL LOOKING AT THE DRAINAGE ISSUE.
OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR TONIGHT.
SO THE STATEMENT AT THE TIME IN THE PACKET THAT THIS WILL COME TO COUNCIL WAS BASED ON THE APPLICATION AS IT STOOD AT THAT TIME, CONTAINING EXCEPTIONS. THEY OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTOOD THAT IF THEY WITHDREW THEIR EXCEPTIONS, NUMBER ONE, IT WOULDN'T GO TO COUNCIL. AND NUMBER TWO, UNDER STATE AND LOCAL ORDINANCES.
IT THEN MOVED FROM A DISCRETIONARY ACT AT P AND Z TO A PURELY MINISTERIAL ONE.
SO ONCE THEY REMOVE THOSE, THEY THERE. IF IT MEETS ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF OUR ORDINANCES, THEY'RE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO APPROVE IT. OTHERWISE, BECAUSE IT'S A MINISTERIAL AND NOT DISCRETIONARY, THE IMMUNITY THAT THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS WOULD HAVE SORT OF GOES AWAY.
AND SO THERE'S A DIMINISHED LEVEL OF IMMUNITY THAT THEY WOULD HAVE.
AND IF THE DEVELOPER RECEIVED A NO VOTE ON A MINISTERIAL APPLICATION THAT WAS REQUIRED TO BE APPROVED, THE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF PNC, IF IT WAS SHOWN THAT THEY VOTED IN BAD FAITH, COULD HAVE PERSONAL LIABILITY, NOT JUST THE TOWN. SO THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE ARE.
IT WASN'T AN ATTEMPT TO BE DISINGENUOUS WITH THE PUBLIC.
AND IF THE FACTS CHANGE, THEN OUR RESPONSE HAS TO CHANGE LEGALLY.
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RULE. SO THE 200 FOOT NOTIFICATION IS REQUIRED FOR ZONING CHANGES.IN THIS CASE, WE USE THE SAME TYPE OF VICINITY MAP FOR EVERY APPLICATION THAT WE TAKE FORWARD TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND TOWN COUNCIL, AND THIS PARTICULAR ONE, SINCE IT WAS THE TEMPLATE, THE THE ICON AND NOTICES THAT SHOW THAT THERE WAS A BOUNDARY AROUND THE SUBJECT WEREN'T REMOVED. THERE WERE NO NOTIFICATIONS REQUIRED FOR A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE. CAN I SPEAK? YEAH. YOU'VE ALREADY MADE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THREE MINUTES. IF YOU WANT, I CAN GIVE YOU.
IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN ADDITIONAL STATEMENT, I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE.
LIKE RIGHT HERE, IT SAYS THIS APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE FINAL ACTION BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
IT DOES NOT SAY YOU ACTUALLY YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE SPEAKER.
MA'AM, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU ONE MINUTE TO SPEAK JUST ON THE AGENDA PACKET.
IT SAYS THIS APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE FINAL ACTION BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SPEAKING OF KNIGHTS LANDING. AND THEN THE VERY NEXT LINE SAYS THE PURPOSE OF THIS APPLICATION IS TO APPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PROPOSED SUBDIVISION CONSISTING OF NINE RESIDENTIAL LOTS. IT DOES NOT SAY FOR EXCEPTIONS.
THAT IS VERY MISLEADING. SO HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW THAT? AND THEN WHY DO WE EVEN KNOW? WHY IS THERE A NOTIFICATION BUFFER IF THERE WEREN'T ANY NOTIFICATIONS TO BE SENT OUT? THAT IS WHERE CONFUSION, MISTRUST, SEVERAL THINGS COME INTO PLAY.
BUT IT CLEARLY STATES RIGHT HERE THIS APPLICATION WILL REQUIRE FINAL ACTION BY THE TOWN COUNCIL.
WE WERE ON THE AGENDA. WE GOT TAKEN OFF. THAT MAKES RESIDENTS THINK WHAT IS GOING ON? I THINK BRYN JUST EXPLAINED IT. DO YOU WANT TO REITERATE? HE SAID IT WAS REGARDING EXCEPTIONS, RIGHT? SO I CAN'T.
I DIDN'T DRAFT THE AGENDA PACKET AND I. I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T LOOK AT IT BEFORE THIS ITEM CAME UP.
AND REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE STAFF MEMO MAY HAVE SAID, AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT WAS DEBATABLY AN ARTFULLY DRAFTED, THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER WAS THAT THIS WAS A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN THAT SOUGHT SEVERAL EXCEPTIONS.
THEY WITHDREW THE EXCEPTIONS, AND IT BECAME A MINISTERIAL TASK FOR P AND Z.
OKAY. THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY THE LEGAL ISSUE.
I WON'T COMMENT FURTHER ON WHETHER IT WAS ARTFULLY DRAFTED OR NOT.
YEAH. OKAY. VERY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO WE HAVE DAVID WENZEL NEXT AND THEN THE NEXT.
WE HAVE LIKE A FEW PEOPLE AFTER THAT. IT'S ALLISON.
LAMBERTUS. BADASS. CRAIG. BADASS. AND THEN. ABIGAIL.
FERRIER. YOU ALL ARE SPEAKING BACK TO BACK. OKAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO CHANGE MY PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT ON THE FLY HERE BECAUSE BASED UPON WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON, IT'S CHANGED SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT SOME THINGS, BUT I'M DAVID WENZEL.
I KNOW ALL OF Y'ALL UNANIMOUSLY VOTED AGAINST IT, SO I APPRECIATE IT.
AND MY WIFE'S HORSE IS REALLY APPRECIATED AS WELL.
SO ONE THING, I JUST WANT TO EXPRESS MY FRUSTRATION WITH ALL OF THIS.
WHEN WHEN KNIGHTS FIRST CLEARED THIS LAND OVER HERE.
I CALLED UP THE PREVIOUS OWNER, MR. SANDERS, AND I THOUGHT HE STILL OWNED THE PROPERTY.
AND I ASKED HIM WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND HE TOLD ME, HE GOES, WELL, I SOLD THIS LAND TO A FELLOW WHO'S GOING TO BUILD A HOUSE THERE, AND HE'S GOING TO BUILD A COUPLE OF HOUSES FOR HIS KIDS.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE BIG RANCH AREA.
WELL, THAT WAS VERY DECEPTIVE. EITHER MR.. MR. SANDERS WASN'T TELLING ME THE TRUTH OR KNIGHTS LANDING WASN'T TELLING THE TRUTH.
SO ME AND THE REST OF MY NEIGHBORS, WE JUST THOUGHT, OKAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE A NICE THING.
SO NO ONE REALLY SAID ANYTHING. AND WE WERE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, WE'D HATE TO SEE THE PASTOR GO, BUT IT WAS STILL GOING TO BE SOME BIG PROPERTY THERE.
AND OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS NOT THE CASE. NONE OF US WERE NEVER INFORMED.
THE FIRST TIME ANY OF US FOUND OUT ABOUT IT IS WHEN THE CITY POSTED UP THERE, THERE, THERE,
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THERE, THERE ZONING THINGS. SO THAT'S WHEN THE FIRST WHEN WE FIRST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT, AFTER THE FACT, AFTER IT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. NOBODY COULD HAVE BROUGHT UP ANYTHING ABOUT THE FLOODING OR ANYTHING.IT WAS A DONE DEAL. I MEAN, IT'S VERY OBVIOUS WHAT WHAT HAPPENED HERE AND ALL THESE GUYS OVER HERE, THEY KNEW ABOUT IT TOO. AND AND YOU COULD COME UP WITH LEGAL STUFF, BUT IT'S STILL IT'S JUST VERY FRUSTRATING THAT IT WAS JUST HIDDEN FROM ALL OF US FROM DAY ONE. EVEN WHEN I WENT AND ASKED MR. SANDERS ABOUT THE PROPERTY, HE SEEMS LIKE AN HONEST GUY.
I MISPLACED WOODRIDGE OVER HERE. IT SHOULD BE DOWN BELOW SURVEYORS LANE.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS THIS. THIS CUL DE SAC HERE.
I DON'T THINK ANY TYPE OF TRAFFIC STUDY HAS BEEN DONE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A PROBABLY POVERTY FENCE AS THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HAVE AROUND HERE.
SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SEE ANYTHING.
WHEN WE WERE DRIVING, IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO REALLY BE BE BAD THERE.
THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW AROUND THE STREETS HERE.
IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A MESS. I ALSO WANT TO SHOW UP THE STREET UP HERE, UP OFF OF 1171.
HERE'S THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
HERE'S THE HOUSE HERE THAT'S BUILT RIGHT BY A DUCK POND.
IT'S 30FT FROM THE FROM THE EDGE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE THE HOUSE IS.
AND THEN SEVEN FEET FROM THE POND. IS THIS THE SAME THING THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON? THIS IS OR THIS IS WHAT THE SWELLS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE, LIKE WE'VE HAD HERE DOWN RIDGECREST.
YOU CAN SEE THE SWELLS GOING DOWN. I'M SORRY.
YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. I APOLOGIZE, WE HAVE TO KEEP ON.
I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THIS. I FILLED OUT A FORM TWO WEEKS AGO.
NEVER HEARD FROM ANYONE. THEY'RE MAKING ROUNDS RIGHT NOW.
YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SOME WHITE TRUCKS OUT THERE.
YEAH, THEY WERE OUT THERE TODAY. I WAS OUT THERE WITH THEM.
SO, YEAH. SO THEY'RE STILL MAKING VISITS OUT THERE? WE ARE GOING TO SEE ALLISON, LAMBERTUS. CRAIG, LAMBERTUS.
AND THEN I DID SAY ABIGAIL FERRIER, BUT IT'S I WAS WRONG.
EXPLAIN THAT. YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY, I THINK WE WERE GOING TO DO CHRIS.
YES. SO I'LL GO FIRST, AND THEN THE TEJADA'S WILL TAKE OVER.
OKAY. BUT JUST FOR CONTEXT, ALL OF THIS IS MINE.
THEY'RE JUST BEING GRACIOUS ENOUGH TO READ IT FOR ME.
SO JUST VERY GOOD. ALL OF THE THE COMMENTARY WITHIN THE THREE MINUTES.
WAS THIS SOMEBODY THAT THEY WANTED? THEY'RE GOING TO GO THEY'RE GOING TO SHARE.
THEY'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP READING. OKAY. SO HI, MY NAME IS ABIGAIL FERRIER, 6604 SUNSET TRAIL.
I'M GOING TO BEGIN BY SAYING THAT AS SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN IN LEADERSHIP POSITIONS OR POSITIONS OF RESPONSIBILITY FOR OTHER PEOPLE, FOR QUITE LITERALLY MY ENTIRE CAREER, THE MOST IMPORTANT LESSON I'VE LEARNED IS THAT TO BE A GOOD LEADER, YOU HAVE TO BE WILLING TO LEAVE YOUR EGO AT THE DOOR.
I SAY THIS BECAUSE WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SAY IS VERY FRANK.
IF I HAD MORE TIME, I WOULD ATTEMPT A MORE DELICATE DANCE AROUND THE VERBIAGE. BUT TIME CONSTRAINTS BEING WHAT THEY ARE, DIRECTNESS IS THE WAY I MUST GO. WHEN I ATTENDED THE WORK SESSION WITH TOWN COUNCIL ON MARCH 20TH, I WAS BOTH INCREDIBLY DELIGHTED AND ABSOLUTELY HORRIFIED.
ALMOST EVERYONE THESE DAYS HAS A PR TEAM OR IS ACUTELY AWARE OF HOW THEY ARE BEING PERCEIVED.
YOU ALL, HOWEVER, UNFORTUNATELY OFFERED A MASTERCLASS IN EXACTLY WHAT NOT TO DO.
NEVER IN MY LIFE HAVE I SEEN SUCH A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW TO COMPLETELY ALIENATE YOUR AUDIENCE, WHO, MIND YOU, ARE THE VERY CONSTITUENTS WHO VOTED YOU ALL INTO YOUR CURRENT POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY.
I'VE ALREADY DOWNLOADED THE VIDEO OF THAT MEETING AND INCORPORATED IT INTO A LESSON PLAN, SHOWING MY STUDENTS EXACTLY HOW NOT TO COMMUNICATE. SO FOR THAT, I AM HAPPY. AS A CITIZEN OF FLOWER MOUND AND A VOTER, I AM HORRIFIED. THE COUNCIL'S APPROACH, AS SEEN AT THE MARCH 20TH WORK SESSION, FAILED TO ADDRESS THE URGENCY OF THE SITUATION IN REGARD TO CROSS TIMBERS DRAINAGE, WHILE SIMULTANEOUSLY OFFERING RESIDENTS ONLY VAGUE PROMISES THAT RELIEVED THE TOWN OF DIRECT RESPONSIBILITY. YOU ACTUALLY SHIFTED THE BURDEN TO RESIDENTS, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND THROUGH PRIVATE PROPERTY NEGOTIATIONS, WITHOUT PROVIDING ANY TANGIBLE OR IMMEDIATE SOLUTIONS.
WHILE YOU DID ACKNOWLEDGE THE SEVERITY OF THE ISSUES, YOUR INABILITY TO COMMIT TO FUNDAMENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE CHANGE, TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR PAST DECISIONS OR PROVIDE TRANSPARENT AND TIMELY SOLUTIONS REFLECTS A DEEPLY FLAWED APPROACH TO GOVERNANCE.
INSTEAD OF FOSTERING COMMUNITY COOPERATION AND PRIORITIZING COMPREHENSIVE DRAINAGE SOLUTIONS, YOU DELAYED ACTION AND AVOIDED REAL ACCOUNTABILITY, LEAVING ALL OF US RESIDENTS TO FEND FOR OURSELVES.
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AGAIN TONIGHT. WE KNOW THAT KNIGHTS LANDING IS NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE, AND THAT'S BEEN DETAILED BY SEVERAL OTHER PEOPLE.THERE ARE MORE LIES BEING TOLD AND TRUST BEING ERODED.
COUNCIL STAFF MEMBERS FOCUS ON ONE MISSPOKEN WORD BY A RESIDENT.
INSTEAD OF FOCUSING ON THE CORE ISSUE THAT SHE WAS BRINGING UP.
THESE DERAIL THE CONVERSATION. THEY DON'T ACTUALLY ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
IT WASTES TIME. IT CONFUSES THE ISSUE. IT'S A COMMON RHETORICAL TECHNIQUE, BUT IT'S A GARBAGE ONE.
WE EVEN HAD THE ENGINEER REPORT WE WERE REPLACING ABOUT 125FT OF A 48 INCH STORM LINE, REPLACING THE INLET, RECONSTRUCTING THE HEADWALL. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. ONE COUNCIL MEMBER EVEN STATED, THIS JUST LOOKS LIKE A SHORT TERM FIX. AND THAT'S CORRECT.
SO YOU ADMIT YOUR SOLUTIONS WON'T WORK FOR HEAVY RAIN? YOU KNOW YOUR PLAN WON'T WORK FOR BIG STORMS. WHY ARE YOU PROCEEDING WITH IT INSTEAD OF WITH A REAL FIX? YOU ALSO WASTED TIME WITH THESE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT REQUEST FORMS. THIS IS ANOTHER LOOPHOLE. YOU HAVE DECADES 40 SOME YEARS OF COMPLAINTS, PHOTOS, VIDEO, EVIDENCE.
WHY DO RESIDENTS NEED TO FILL OUT ANOTHER FORM? AND IT'S BEEN TWO WEEKS. PEOPLE AREN'T EVEN GETTING RESULTS. THREE MINUTES ARE UP. THANK YOU.
SO NOW I'M GOING TO HAND OVER TO CARISSA IF YOU WANT TO START THERE OKAY.
HELLO I'M CARISSA TEJADA 6510 SUNSET TRAIL STANDING IN FOR ABIGAIL.
DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS, I WILL PRIMARILY I WILL BE PRIMARILY DIRECTING THE REST OF MY COMMENTS TOWARDS MAYOR MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN AS MY COMMENTS PERTAIN TO THEIR CAMPAIGNS FOR ELECTED OFFICE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, I'M GOING TO READ SOME QUOTES FROM YOUR CAMPAIGN.
THESE ARE ALL EASILY ACCESSIBLE ONLINE. FROM VARIOUS INTERVIEWS AND ARTICLES.
YOU SAY THAT YOUR VISION FOR FLOWER MOUND IS GROUNDED IN THE TOWN'S VISION STATEMENT TO PRESERVE OUR UNIQUE COUNTRY, ATMOSPHERE, HERITAGE AND QUALITY OF LIFE WHILE CULTIVATING A DYNAMIC ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT.
ATMOSPHERE AND QUALITY OF LIFE SHOULD GUIDE ALL OF MY DECISIONS ON THIS DAIS.
LISTENING TO RESIDENTS AND ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS, FOR EXAMPLE, PERTAINING TO TAXES, TRAFFIC AND TREES IS A RESPONSIBILITY I LOOK FORWARD TO UPHOLDING. YOU ALSO REMARKED THAT RESIDENTS DESERVE A COUNCIL PERSON WHO WILL GIVE VOICE TO THE VISION OF FLOWER MOUND.
MANY OF US SAW WHEN WE FIRST CHOSE TO MOVE AND RAISE OUR FAMILIES HERE.
OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, WE HAVE WITNESSED MORE CLEAR CUTTING OF TREES, MORE REMOVAL OF PROTECTED AND SPECIMEN TREES, AND A MULTITUDE OF AMENDMENTS TO THE TOWN'S MASTER PLAN, WHICH WAS DESIGNED TO PRESERVE THE NATURE OF OUR TOWN.
UNCHECKED INCREASES IN DENSITY ARE CONTRIBUTING TO TRAFFIC CONGESTION.
OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS ERODING BEFORE OUR EYES.
I SEE A DIFFERENT FUTURE FOR OUR TOWN AND I HOPE YOU DO TOO.
WE DO SEE A BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN.
UNFORTUNATELY, WHAT I'M ALSO SEEING RIGHT NOW IS SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO SAY ONE THING TO GET ELECTED, AND THEN IMMEDIATELY DO A 180 BOW DOWN TO DEVELOPERS GREENLIGHT TREE REMOVALS OF PROTECTED SPECIMEN TREES.
YOU CLEARLY ENJOY THIS JOB. IT IS LISTED IN THE HEADER OF YOUR LINKEDIN PAGE, BUT I WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU WANT TO BE IN THIS POSITION BECAUSE YOU CARE ABOUT THE RESIDENTS AND THE CAUSES YOU CLAIM TO SUPPORT, NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU WANTED A NEW TITLE TO ADD TO YOUR RESUME.
THE RESIDENTS, YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE HERE AND THEY ARE CLEARLY NOT HAPPY.
YOU CLAIMED YOU LOOKED FORWARD TO THE RESPONSIBILITY OF LISTENING TO RESIDENTS AND UPHOLDING THEIR VALUES AND ADDRESSING THEIR CONCERNS. IT'S TIME TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS. MAYOR MOORE, IN YOUR CAMPAIGN, YOU CLAIM THAT FLOWER MOUND HAS CHANGED DRASTICALLY FROM A COUNTRY ATMOSPHERE TO A MORE CONGESTED AND ENVIRONMENTALLY COMPROMISED VERSION OF ITSELF.
I WANTED TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE, AND I KNEW THAT OUR TOWN COUNCIL WAS PREDOMINANTLY SUPPORTIVE OF SLOWER GROWTH WITH RESIDENTS INTEREST OVER DEVELOPERS, WITH CONSERVATION OF OUR TREES AND OPEN SPACES. I KNEW I COULD STAND BEHIND THIS COUNCIL.
YOU ALSO SAID THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT RESIDENTS WANTS AND NEEDS OVER THEIR DEVELOPERS, FACILITATE A SMALL TOWN FEEL OF TOGETHERNESS AND COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION, AND AVOID DEVELOPMENT THAT NEGATIVELY IMPACTS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND SAFETY.
ARE YOU ALL RIGHT THERE? OKAY. AARON TEJADA 6510 SUNSET TRAIL.
WELL, YOUR RESIDENTS ARE HERE. THEY HAVE MADE THEIR NEEDS INCREDIBLY CLEAR OVER NUMEROUS MEETINGS REGARDING THE INCREDIBLE, PROBLEMATIC AND DAMAGING DRAINAGE ISSUES OCCURRING IN CROSS TIMBERS.
POOR MR. WOOD'S PROPERTY IS LITERALLY WASHING AWAY BEFORE HIS EYES.
AS KNIGHTS LANDING LIES ABOUT WORK THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE ON THAT PROPERTY.
LIKE I SAID, THE COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, NOW IS THE TIME TO PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS.
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YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES HAVE TO MEAN SOMETHING MORE THAN JUST LIP SERVICE TO GET YOU ELECTED.NOW THAT YOU'RE IN THIS ROLE, IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON YOUR PROMISES.
YOU WILL NOT BE IN THESE POSITIONS FOR LONG IF YOU DO SO.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I GENUINELY HOPE YOU TAKE HEART WHAT I SAID.
WE ARE ALL HOPEFUL THAT YOU HOLD TRUE TO YOUR CAMPAIGN PROMISES AND DO THE RIGHT THING.
I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT WE'VE ONLY BEEN HERE FOR FOR A FEW YEARS, AND WE SPECIFICALLY PICKED THAT HOUSE AND THIS CITY BECAUSE OF THE NATURE, THE WILDLIFE. AND TO ME, EVERYTHING JUST MAKES ABSOLUTE SENSE.
THE WORK HAS TO BE DONE OR ELSE YOU KNOW, THE DAMAGE.
THE DAMAGE IS JUST JUST IT'S GOING TO COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS LONG TERM.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE IN THE GROUP SPEAKING.
OKAY. DID I GET EVERYBODY? YOU KNOW WHAT? ABIGAIL.
ABIGAIL. YES. DID HE HAVE. DO YOU HAVE A MINUTE? YEAH. CAN I PLAY THE VIDEO THAT DIDN'T GET PLAYED? I THINK YOU DID HAVE A MINUTE LEFT, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
YEAH, I'LL GIVE YOU A MINUTE. YEAH. THAT'S FINE. YOU'RE GOOD.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN WHEN DID WE GET ALLISON AND CRAIG LIMBATUS? THEY DIDN'T KNOW, SIR. I'M SORRY. I HAVE TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
I KNOW YOU ALL. YEAH. YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I MEAN.
IF I START GIVING ONE PERSON AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE OUTBURSTS LIKE THAT AGAIN.
THAT WE HAD EARLIER, I PERMITTED THAT THAT ONE MINUTE, AND I CAN'T KEEP DOING THAT ALL NIGHT.
YOUR POINTS HAVE BEEN TAKEN. YES, SIR. SIR, THIS IS MY ROOM RIGHT NOW.
YOU WILL NOT SPEAK. OKAY. WE HAVE EIGHT PEOPLE WHO HAVE.
THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, BUT THEY ARE. THEY ARE WANTING TO.
THEIR SUBJECT IS THE DRAINAGE AND CROSS TIMBERS AND THE DELAY IN KNIGHTS LANDING.
SO THERE WERE EIGHT COMMENTS ON THAT. BUT NO, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK.
ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT? MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU.
OH, YEAH. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME. SO IF YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
NO. IT'S FINE. HELLO. MY NAME IS TERRY DUPREE.
7004 WOODRIDGE DRIVE. DRY AND I JUST WANT A SECOND.
EVERY SINGLE LITTLE THING. THAT ABIGAIL SAID.
THANK YOU. I DIDN'T SEE A CARD FOR YOU. DID YOU SAY IT WAS TERI DUPREE? SHE WAS WITH SOMEONE THAT WAS DONATING TIME. AND WE'RE NOT DOING DONATED TIME.
YEAH. OKAY. LET ME SEE A CARD. MAYBE NOT. OKAY.
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SO I'M GOING TO ALLOW ANOTHER. ANY MORE COMMENTS? THIS IS. ANYBODY WANT TO FILL OUT A CARD? WE JUST CAN'T HAVE PEOPLE YELLING IN THE ROOM TO SPEAK.OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO FORWARD FOR ANNOUNCEMENTS.
[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
I'M GOING TO START. I'LL START DOWN HERE. I HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, MAYOR.SO LAST WEEK, THE MAYOR AND THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WENT DOWN TO AUSTIN AS PART OF THE DENTON COUNTY GROUP, AND THE LEGISLATURE IS IN SESSION. AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF BILLS THAT WOULD EFFECTIVELY PREEMPT THE AUTHORITY OF THE TOWN TO HAVE ANY CONTROL WHATSOEVER ON HOW BIG A RESIDENTIAL LOT CAN BE.
SO FOR THIS, THIS WAS MY THIRD TRIP DOWN TO AUSTIN.
I THINK THE MAYOR WAS ALSO HER THIRD TRIP, AND IT WAS ANN'S FOURTH TRIP.
I ATTENDED, AND THIS WAS IN REFERENCE TO HOUSE BILL 3913 3919, WHICH WOULD PREEMPT THE ABILITY OF CITIES TO REQUIRE RESIDENTIAL LOTS FEWER THAN 31 PER ACRE, 31 RESIDENTIAL LOTS PER ACRE WOULD BE THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT WE COULD REQUIRE AS THE THE MINIMUM, MEANING A MAXIMUM LOT SIZE OF 1400 SQUARE FEET.
SO JUST FOR REFERENCE, THAT'S ABOUT THE SIZE OF A MOBILE HOME, NOT INCLUDING THE LAND AROUND IT.
SO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE LAND AND RESOURCE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE HOUSE COMMITTEES THAT HEARS BILLS RELATED TO LOCAL ZONING AUTHORITY, HAD THIS TO SAY AS HE WAS INTRODUCING THE BILL AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HOW THIS BILL WAS GOING TO SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
THIS MINIMUM LOT SIZE MIRRORS THE CITY OF HOUSTON'S CURRENT LOT SIZE.
SO HE SAID THAT TEN YEARS AFTER THAT PASSED, THEY DROVE DOWN THE PRICE OF TOWNHOMES IN HOUSTON.
I MEAN, WE'RE WE'RE VERY COMMITTED TO TO SOLVING THIS PROBLEM, AND IT WILL TAKE TIME.
BUT MEANWHILE, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE LEGISLATURES FROM COMING IN AND SAYING THAT THEY CAN PUT, YOU KNOW, 500 HOMES ON THAT SAME PROPERTY. SO WE ARE IN AUSTIN, WE'RE FIGHTING IT AND WE'RE WINNING, BUT WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO NEED YOUR HELP DEALING WITH THE POLITICIANS IN AUSTIN, FROM THE HOUSTON AND FROM THOSE URBAN AREAS THAT WANT TO COPY AND PASTE URBAN STANDARDS ONTO THIS TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN AND WE'RE FIGHTING A LOT OF BATTLES RIGHT NOW, BUT WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOME HELP FROM THE PUBLIC TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN KEEP FLOWER MOUND THAT THE FIGHT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW TO PROTECT THE CROSS TIMBERS IS A FIGHT WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE AMONGST OURSELVES. AND I DON'T MIND THE CRITICISM.
IF THEY TAKE AWAY OUR AUTHORITY IN AUSTIN, THEN YOU WON'T NEED ANY OF US UP HERE.
I'M GLAD YOU SAID SOMETHING BECAUSE I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO. I HAD THAT ON MY ANNOUNCEMENTS.
BUT YOU SAID IT. WELL. BUT IT WAS IT WAS AN INCREDIBLE TIME TO BE DOWN THERE TO FIGHT FOR OUR VOICE INSTEAD OF ALLOWING THE STATE TO TAKE THAT OVER FOR US.
BECAUSE AT SOME POINT, WHY WOULD WE HAVE A COUNCIL IF THE STATE IS TELLING US HOW WE NEED TO ZONE AND TAKING THAT CONTROL OVER BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW OUR COMMUNITIES LIKE WE DO. SO, YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT EXPERIENCE.
I THINK WE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS THAT THESE BILLS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD WON'T IMPACT US.
AND I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JAMES CHILDERS FOR ALL HIS TIME IN THIS AS WELL.
AND JP FROM STRATEGIC PLANNING, HE'S HE'S NOT HERE, I DON'T THINK.
I DON'T THINK HE'S HERE. I DON'T SEE HIM. ANYWAY. HE'S BEEN HELPING A LOT. AND THEN BRANDY BYRD, HE'S SHE'S OUR LEGISLATIVE CONSULTANT. AND SHE WAS AMAZING WITH HELPING US, AND SHE'S BEEN REALLY FIGHTING FOR US.
AND THEN OTHER ANOTHER A FEW OTHER THINGS, LIGHTHEARTED THINGS GOING ON THAT I WANT TO SAY IN MY ANNOUNCEMENTS IS THAT TREAT CHURCH IS DOING THEIR FAMILY FEST SUMMIT CLUB. THEY THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO BE THERE APRIL 12TH AT 4 P.M..
FREE HOT DOGS, GRILLED CHEESE TRUCK, SNOW CONES, PETTING ZOO.
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BE THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE FUN. AND THEN ANOTHER THING I WANT TO PUT A SHOUT OUT ON IS A COUPLE OF ORGANIZATIONS.I WENT TO A BENEFIT THIS WEEKEND. WOMEN IN BUSINESS.
THEY THEY'RE A NONPROFIT THAT SUPPORTS WOMEN IN BUSINESS.
AND THEN ANOTHER GREAT EVENT I WENT TO WAS ALI'S WISH.
AND THEY PROVIDE ONE LAST WISH TO A DYING MOTHER.
SO IF YOU CAN GO ONLINE TO ALI'S WISH AND DONATE THERE.
IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION. AND I THINK THAT'S IT.
SO I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT REGARDING THE TRIPS DOWN TO AUSTIN.
AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT I NEVER THOUGHT I'D HAVE TO DO BEING A COUNCIL PERSON I DIDN'T KNOW, BUT IT MANY, MANY BILLS SERIOUSLY THREATEN WHAT I DID STAND UP FOR IN MY CAMPAIGN.
INITIAL TALKING POINTS THE LIFEBLOOD OF FLOWER MOUND AND YOU ALL HAVE FELT IT.
I'M GLAD YOU SHARED IT TONIGHT. YOUR EXTREME FRUSTRATION WITH SOMETHING CALLED MINISTERIAL APPROVAL.
AND THAT MEANS WE ARE REMOVED FROM COMMENTING.
WE ARE REMOVED FROM ASKING FOR COLLABORATION THAT IT JUST BECOMES BASICALLY A RUBBER STAMP.
WE HAVE NO VOICE IN IT. YOU HAVE NO VOICE IN IT.
AND SO ON MY TRIPS TO AUSTIN, I HAVE BEEN MEETING WITH DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES, NOT JUST OURS, BUT OTHER ONES WHO ARE IN KEY POSITIONS TO MAKE DECISIONS, AND I HAVE TOLD THEM THAT MY RESIDENTS WILL NOT STAND FOR NO CHOICE, NO VOICE. AND YOU ARE REINFORCING THAT. I KNOW THAT IS TRUE, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO TALK TO ME ABOUT IT, I'M ALSO AVAILABLE.
THANK YOU. SO I JUST WANT TO SAY IN GENERAL FOR RESIDENT ISSUES, I'M ALWAYS OPEN TO GO OUT AND MEET WITH RESIDENTS. YOU CAN EMAIL ME CHRIS FLOWER MOUND GOV.
OR YOU CAN TEXT OR CALL MY CELL PHONE 723655846.
I THINK I GOT THAT RIGHT. THE AND AS WELL AS FLOWER MOUND PARKS.
AWESOME EVENT. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT. BOTH MY GIRLS WERE OUT THERE GETTING ALL COLORED.
SO GO CHECK IT OUT. THANK Y'ALL. ANYTHING ELSE? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE FORWARD. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.
MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. OKAY. SO, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.
[H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]
DOES ANYONE WANT TO BRING ANYTHING FORWARD? I ACTUALLY DID HAVE A QUESTION AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVEN POSSIBLE, BUT IS THERE A SITUATION WHERE A COUNCIL COULD ASK FOR EXCEPTIONS ON A DEVELOPMENT? IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS IN A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? IF AN APPLICANT HAS WITHDRAWN REQUESTS FOR EXCEPTIONS, IS IT SOMETHING A COUNCIL CAN STILL REQUEST FOR APPLICATION? SO WE COULD DISCUSS AMENDING THE ORDINANCE. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO STOP AT P AND Z.THAT'S JUST CURRENTLY HOW IT'S WRITTEN BECAUSE IT'S MINISTERIAL.
I THINK THE POLICY THOUGHT WAS WHY BRING IT FORWARD FOR TWO VOTES INSTEAD OF ONE? BUT OBVIOUSLY, IF WE AMENDED THE ORDINANCE AND REQUIRED THAT THEY STOP AT P AND Z AND STILL MOVE ON TO COUNCIL DESPITE THE FACT THAT IT'S MINISTERIAL, IT WOULD GIVE YOU AN OPENING AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO AT LEAST DISCUSS POSSIBLE CONCESSIONS FROM AN APPLICANT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU'RE ASKING.
I THINK IT DOES. IT HAS TO DO WITH FRUSTRATION WITH THE PROCESS.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE A PASS THROUGH.
IF P AND Z SAYS, NO, I DON'T. AND AND IT'S MINISTERIAL.
I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO NECESSARILY STOP, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE OPTION SHOULD A COUNCIL DEEM AN EXCEPTION THAT THEY THINK IS BENEFICIAL, THAT THEY COULD BRING IT FORWARD.
OKAY. SO ON THAT THE ANSWER IS NO. OKAY. THANK YOU.
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SO WITH WITH REGARD TO ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD TONIGHT TO IS THERE A WAY WE CAN DO LIKE A PUBLIC UPDATE ON WHAT WE'RE DOING BECAUSE WE ARE GOING I'VE BEEN OUT THERE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'VE BEEN VISITING WITH THE RESIDENTS.I KNOW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE. IS THERE A WAY WE CAN GO AHEAD AND DO KIND OF AN UPDATE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, INFORMAL? SITUATION WHERE WE CAN JUST SAY, HEY, THIS IS WHAT STAFF IS FINDING.
SO WHAT YOU'RE REQUESTING IS A TIME THAT WE JUST PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS.
SO RIGHT NOW BLAKE AND BRIAN HAVE MET WITH ROUGHLY ABOUT TEN OF THE SUBMITTALS FOR THOSE PARTICULAR FORMS. SO, I MEAN, WE CAN COME BACK AT ANY POINT AND PROVIDE THAT UPDATE. I THINK WHAT OUR PLAN WAS IS TO FINISH THAT ENTIRE PROCESS AND REPORT BACK, BECAUSE AS YOU RECALL, WHAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE DIRECTION THAT Y'ALL PROVIDED US AT THAT 20TH WORK SESSION WAS TO DO THE DO THE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENTS, HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE RESIDENTS ABOUT THE PRIVATE DRAINAGE ISSUES, AND THEN AT THAT POINT, HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE CONTROL AND WE MAINTAIN AT THE CURRENT MOMENT. SO WE CAN DO AN UPDATE WHENEVER YOU WANT AND WHEREVER YOU WANT TO SCHEDULE IT.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MANAGE EXPECTATIONS ABOUT WHEN WE'LL HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE UPDATE.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE UNTIL WE HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO ENGAGE EVERYBODY WHO SUBMITTED ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS. WHAT ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE AN OPEN FORUM KIND OF THING WHERE WE CAN ENGAGE WITH THEM? I DON'T THINK I DON'T KNOW IF I'M FOLLOWING YOU CORRECTLY, IF IT'S JUST KIND OF AN OPEN, YOU KNOW, WE WE MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS I MEAN, AS FAR AS IT JUST FOLLOWS THE LEGAL POST.
BUT WHY DON'T WE PROPOSE PUTTING THIS AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION AS GETTING AN UPDATE? SO THAT WOULD BE THE MAY WORK SESSION. YEAH, I JUST I JUST WANT THAT COMMUNICATION TO CONTINUE.
DO WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE. THE MAY WORK SESSION IS RESERVED FOR BOARD AND COMMISSION INPUT.
AND IF I MAY MAYOR JUST READING FROM THE COUNCIL DIRECTION FROM THE MINUTES.
THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THAT'S SUFFICIENT. IF I COULD THE STEPS ARE BULLET POINTS.
PROCEED WITH THE MAINTENANCE WORK AS PRESENTED.
THE NEW DROP INLET ON THE NORTH SIDE OF SUNSET TRAIL REPLACE THE EXISTING 48 48 INCH RCP STORM LINE, RECONSTRUCTION OF THE STORM INLET, AND INSTALLATION OF ROCK RIPRAP TO ALLOW FOR BETTER CAPACITY.
WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS WHO ARE COMPLETING THE DRAINAGE ASSESSMENT FORMS. PROVIDE ADVICE FOR REGRADING OR EXISTING DRAINAGE SWELLS TO INCREASE STORAGE CAPACITY.
REASSESS THE SITUATION AT THE END OF SUMMER TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING ACTIONABLE AT THAT POINT.
BRING FORWARD A DECISION PACKAGE IN THE NEXT BUDGET THAT FUNDS THE STUDY BASED ON WHAT IS LEARNED DURING THE HOMEOWNER SITE VISITS, TO DETERMINE WHAT CAPITAL PROJECTS ARE NEEDED TO HELP WITH THE DRAINAGE ISSUES AND TO IDENTIFY RESIDENT ENGAGEMENT LEVELS AS IT RELATES TO EASEMENTS, ETC., BEFORE COMMITTING TOWN FUNDS. PERIOD. OKAY.
SO TO RECAP, ARE WE WE HAVE THAT THAT WE'RE WE HAVE THAT SET OF LISTS.
SO AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, WE CAN COME BACK AT ANY POINT AT ANY MEETING YOU WANT US TO COME BACK ON.
BUT WHAT I'M SIMPLY SAYING IS, IS THAT RIGHT NOW, I THINK IN THE FIRST WEEK, BLAKE WAS ABLE TO ENGAGE ABOUT EIGHT RESIDENTS, AND I THINK THERE WAS A COUPLE MORE THIS WEEK.
I MEAN, I WANT TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION, AND I THINK THE RESIDENTS WOULD APPRECIATE THAT RATHER THAN JUST A GENERAL UPDATE. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING FROM AN EXPECTATION MANAGEMENT STANDPOINT OF WHATEVER YOU WANT US TO COME FORWARD WITH AN UPDATE, WE'LL PROVIDE IT. BUT WE'RE PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, MAY IS AROUND THE TIME FRAME WHERE WE CAN HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUAL PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS AT THAT POINT TO DISCUSS THE PRIVATE DRAINAGE. WELL, THEN WHY DON'T WE JUST, LIKE, DISCUSS WHEN WE CAN AS AS MORE INFORMATION IS COMPILED, MORE IS COMPILED. WE CAN FIGURE OUT A DATE TO PUT.
SO A SUGGESTION, A SUGGESTION THAT I'LL MAKE.
I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, BUT IT'S JUST I CAN USE THE TOWN MANAGER REPORT GOING FORWARD TO PROVIDE SUBSTANTIVE UPDATES IN REGARDS TO WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS. WE HAVE NO PROBLEM STAYING WHERE WE'RE AT IN THE PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT AN AGENDA ITEM OUT THERE, I JUST DON'T WANT TO SPEND 20 MINUTES NOT PROVIDING ANY SUBSTANTIVE INFORMATION.
I CAN PROVIDE UPDATES IN THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT, BUT I THINK ONCE WE START GETTING THOSE ASSESSMENTS AND START DOING OUR INTERNAL WORK, THAT'S WHEN WE'LL HAVE A BETTER SENSE OF WHERE WE CAN HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT NEXT STEPS.
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OKAY. THAT'S GOING TO BE MY SUGGESTION. OKAY.ALL RIGHT. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. I HOPE THAT THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY.
WE'RE DONE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M SORRY. YEAH, I HAVE TO KEEP ON SCHEDULE.
WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE SPEAKING TONIGHT.
BUT I DO HOPE THAT THAT HELPS YOU ALL WHO HAVE COME FORWARD TO SPEAK OR BEGINS TO HELP.
IT'S A BEGINNING. WE WILL MOVE ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.
[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]
APRIL 17TH, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A WORK SESSION THAT'S GOING TO BE CANCELED.APRIL 21ST IS OUR REGULAR MEETING. AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS. I'M SORRY, MAYOR. REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF THE COUNCIL WHERE THE 17TH WORK SESSION WAS, WHERE WE WERE GOING TO DO THE RATE STUDY WITH NUGEN.
AND BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME KEY STAFF MEMBERS ABSENT ON THE 17TH.
WE'RE PUSHING ON THE 21ST. AND SO TYPICALLY THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE THE BUDGETARY DISCUSSION.
START TALKING ABOUT THOSE PRELIMINARY ITEMS. SO IN ADDITION TO THE RATE CONVERSATION WITH NUGEN, WE'LL ALSO PUT AN ADDITIONAL ITEM THAT JUST TALKS ABOUT JUST GENERAL BUDGET DIRECTION LIKE WE HAVE IN YEARS PAST.
SO IN ESSENCE, WE'RE MOVING A WORK SESSION TO THAT 21ST AGENDA.
WE'RE COMBINING IT WITH THAT MEETING ON THE 21ST.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.
[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]
AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CONSENT ITEMS THEY WANT TO REMOVE OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE AN APPROVAL.I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH FIVE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. OKAY, THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.
COUNCIL MEMBER. WARNER. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.
AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
DREW. AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. AYE. OKAY.
ITEM J ONE THROUGH FIVE. PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM K REGULAR ITEMS. WE'RE MIXING THIS UP A LITTLE BIT TONIGHT. IT'S WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD SINCE REGULAR ITEMS ONE AND TWO WON'T TAKE VERY LONG.
WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT. BUT I'M GOING TO SKIP ITEM THREE.
AND WE'LL SKIP WE'LL SKIP OVER TO ITEM FOUR AND FIVE.
AFTER WE DO ONE AND TWO. OKAY.
[K.1. PSA - Fire Station 6 - Consider approval of a Professional Services Agreement with Martinez Architects, LP, for the programming, design, and construction administration associated with the Fire Station 6 project, in the amount of $1,080,000.00; and authorization for the Mayor to execute same on behalf of the Town.]
SO OUR FIRST ITEM IS K ONE. PSA FIRE STATION SIX.CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT WITH MARTINEZ ARCHITECTS.
THE STAFF PRESENTATION IS BY BRIAN WATTENBERG.
THANK YOU AGAIN. BRIAN WATTENBERG, PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
IT'S CURRENTLY A TEMPORARY FIRE STATION LOCATED ON STONECREST ROAD.
THIS DESIGN CONTRACT PROVIDES FOR THAT DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
LET'S SEE THE PULL THIS UP. SORRY ABOUT THAT.
ALL RIGHT. SO THIS ITEM WOULD BE TO CONSIDER THE APPROVAL OF A PSA WITH MARTINEZ ARCHITECTS FOR THE PROGRAMING, DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION ASSOCIATED WITH FIRE STATION SIX PROJECT IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,080,000 AND THE AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR.
SO FIRE STATION SIX IS CURRENTLY I MENTIONED ON STONECREST ROAD.
THIS IS THIS OPERATING OUT OF A PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY.
THERE WILL BE SOME REMAINING AREA FOR FUTURE NEEDS IF NEEDED.
JUST KIND OF GO BACK INTO HOW WE GOT HERE. THERE WAS A SELECTION PROCESS.
17 FIRMS SUBMITTED STATEMENTS OF QUALIFICATIONS.
A SELECTION COMMITTEE COMPOSED OF PUBLIC WORKS STAFF, FACILITY STAFF AND FIRE DEPARTMENT STAFF SCORED THE SUBMITTALS ON THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA INTRODUCTION, PROJECT MANAGER QUALIFICATIONS, FIRM QUALIFICATIONS AND PAST PERFORMANCE.
THEIR SUBCONTRACTOR QUALIFICATIONS, WORKLOAD, CAPACITY AND PROJECT APPROACH.
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THE TOP TWO FIRMS WERE ASKED TO PROVIDE A PRESENTATION TO THE SELECTION COMMITTEE, AND AFTER THOSE PRESENTATIONS WERE DONE, MARTINEZ ARCHITECTS WAS SELECTED FOR THEIR STRONG TRACK RECORD OF DESIGNING FIRE STATIONS THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF DEPARTMENTS AND THEIR COMMUNITIES, AS WELL AS THEIR COLLABORATIVE DESIGN PROCESS AND THEIR COMMITMENT TO QUALITY AND CLIENT SATISFACTION SERVICE.SO THE DESIGN PSA INCLUDES THE SCOPE OF WORK, INCLUDES EXISTING DOCUMENT REVIEW TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE AT, FACILITY PROGRAMING, DESIGN, FINAL DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, HELPING WITH BIDDING, ANY QUESTIONS DURING BIDDING AND CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION OF THE FACILITY IN ASSOCIATION WITH TOWN ENGINEERING STAFF.
IN ADDITION, WE'LL BE BIDDING THIS. THIS WON'T BE A DESIGN BID BUILD.
IT'S JUST A GOOD WAY FOR FACILITIES LIKE THIS TO BE BUILT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CONTRACTOR ON BOARD IN THE BEGINNING OF THE PROJECT DURING DESIGN HELPS US THROUGH TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NOTHING, NO SURPRISES DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEY ALSO PROVIDE A NOT TO EXCEED BASICALLY NUMBER THAT WE KNOW PRIOR TO CONSTRUCTION.
AND SINCE THEY WERE PART OF THE DESIGN, THE HOPE IS THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL GO MUCH SMOOTHER.
THE PROJECT SCHEDULE BEGINNING SPRING 2025 IF APPROVED.
PROJECT COMPLETION. WE'RE LOOKING AT SUMMER OF 2027.
SO A LITTLE OVER TWO YEARS FROM DESIGN THROUGH FINAL CONSTRUCTION.
FUNDING WAS APPROVED. DURING THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET CYCLE. THERE WAS A BUDGET OF $20 MILLION.
AND THAT'S MY SO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM MARTINEZ ARCHITECTS, WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS AND ENGINEERING STAFF, AND ALSO WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HERE, BRANDON BARTH, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF US? I DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION IN REGARD TO.
DID WE PUT THIS UP FOR BID OR IS THIS A VERY SPECIALIZED AREA? SO WITH PROFESSIONAL SERVICES YOU DON'T WE CAN'T PER STATE LAW WE CAN'T BID PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LIKE THIS.
THEIR QUALIFICATIONS BASED. SO THAT'S WHY WE WENT OUT FOR A REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS.
SO AT THIS POINT WE SELECTED SOMEONE THAT WAS QUALIFIED. WE FELT WE WOULD PROVIDE THE TOWN THE BEST FIRE STATION THAT WE COULD, THAT QUALITY CLIENT SERVICE, THOSE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
AND THEN THERE WAS A SCOPE AND FEE NEGOTIATION AT THAT TIME WHERE WE CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN FEE AND THE CONSTRUCTION, INCLUDING THE CONSTRUCTION ADMINISTRATION. AND CAN WE I MEAN, JUST AND THIS GOES TO FUTURE BUDGET ITEMS. CAN WE NEGOTIATE WITH MULTIPLE MULTIPLE. SO ONCE YOU ONCE YOU COME UP WITH THIS SCOPE AND FEE, IF YOU DECIDE YOU CAN'T NEGOTIATE WITH MULTIPLE ENTITIES AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IF WE SAY WE CANNOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT, THIS IS NOT WHAT WE THIS IS NOT THE SCOPE WE INTENDED.
YOU'RE NOT COMING TO THE COST THAT WE OUR BUDGETED COST OR BUDGETED FEE.
BUT ONCE WE GO TO THAT NEXT PERSON, YOU CAN'T GO BACK TO THE FIRST.
SO BY STATE LAW, WE CAN'T PULL IN MULTIPLE ENTITIES TO.
THAT'S CORRECT. WOW. OKAY. FOR FOR ANY PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, NOT JUST ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING.
OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE A MOTION IF YOU'RE READY.
MOVE, MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K ONE AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. OKAY. THERESA. IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLE.
COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW.
AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.
AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER. WARNER. AYE. A1 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SHORTEST ITEM WE HAVE TONIGHT.
WE HAVE ITEM K TWO, NOTICE OF INTENT FOR 2025.
[K.2. Notice of Intent 2025 CO - Consider approval of a resolution approving and authorizing publication of notice of intention to issue Certificates of Obligation, Series 2025, in the principal amount not to exceed $19,200,000, for the purpose of paying for waterworks and sewer system improvements and fire-fighting facilities.]
CO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A RESOLUTION APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING PUBLICATION OF NOTICE OF INTENT TO ISSUE CERTIFICATIONS OF OBLIGATION SERIES 2025.YES. GOOD EVENING. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THE RESOLUTION, AND MICHAEL MARTIN IS HERE WITH HILLTOP SECURITIES, AND HE'LL DISCUSS THE FUTURE DEBT SALE AND THE INTEREST RATES AND SUCH.
WHAT'S GOING ON? THIS IS A NOTICE OF INTENT TO ADVERTISE THE ISSUANCE OF THE CEOS FOR 2025, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 19,200,000. THIS IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THE NOTICE TO BE POSTED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
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2 MILLION FOR THE WATER PROJECTS AND 7.8 FOR WASTEWATER PROJECTS.AND ALONG WITH THAT, IN THE FALL, WE DID A REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION APPROVED THAT COUNCIL DID FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 43,855,000. WELL OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
STAFF EVALUATED THE PROJECTS AND DETERMINED THAT THE FIRE STATIONS COULD BE PHASED INTO DIFFERENT YEARS, LOWERING THIS YEAR'S DEBT SALE BY 15 MILLION, AND THOSE WILL OCCUR IN FUTURE YEARS.
IN ADDITION, THE CIP STAFF EVALUATED A WATER IMPACT FEES THAT WERE AVAILABLE FOR THE LAKESIDE WATER REUSE WATER LINE, SO THAT REMOVED ABOUT $8 MILLION OF THE DEBT AND WILL USE THE IMPACT FEES FOR THAT.
AND WITH THAT, I'LL INVITE MICHAEL UP TO DISCUSS THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU. JULIE. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL MAYOR.
MICHAEL MARTIN, HILLTOP SECURITIES. I WORK WITH JOHN MARTIN, WHO'S THE TOWN'S FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
JULIE PRETTY MUCH COVERED IT ALL. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS MIGHT HAVE.
I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I GUESS I DO HAVE ONE REAL QUICK QUESTION.
SO WE'LL ISSUE IT ALL TOGETHER. AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY POTENTIAL REFUNDINGS RIGHT NOW, BUT IF SOMETHING SHOULD OCCUR, WHICH I'M NOT SURE, IT LOOKS VERY LIKELY THAT WOULD BE IT ALL WENT AWAY TODAY.
BUT YES, WE'LL ISSUE IT ALL TOGETHER. AND THEN AT THE TIME OF SETTLEMENT, WE RECEIVE THE PROCEEDS.
IN AN ACCOUNTING WISE, WE'LL JUST SPLIT IT OUT WHERE THE 75% OF IT WILL COME OUT OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM, AND THE 5 MILLION, THE 25% WILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND.
OKAY. THANKS. ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. DOES ANYONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? THIS HAS TO BE A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE TO MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K2 AS PRESENTED.
SECOND. OH, NO, THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO BE. I'M SORRY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A SUPERMAJORITY.
NO, NO. GO AHEAD AND TAKE A MOTION. COUNCIL MEMBER.
WARNER. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL. AYE.
MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW.
AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR. AYE. OKAY. ITEM K2 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO SKIP TO THE PUBLIC HEARING ITEM K FOUR AND FIVE.
[Items K.4 & K.5 (Part 1 of 2)]
THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE MPA 20 3-0002 LAKESIDE VFW, LAKESIDE EAST AND MU 23001 LEXIN IS GOING TO START PRESENTATION.THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. JUST GIVE ME A SECOND.
I NOTICED I HAD DOWNLOADED THE WRONG PRESENTATION PREVIOUSLY.
LET ME GET THE CORRECT ONE HERE.
HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ON THE EAST SIDE OF LONG PRAIRIE BETWEEN SPINKS AND LAKESIDE PARKWAY.
THAT'S WHERE THE NEW DEVELOPMENT IS PROPOSED.
THERE IS ALSO PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE STANDARDS WITHIN THE EXISTING LAKESIDE DFW AREA, AND THAT IS TO THE WEST OF INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY THERE. SO THE LAND USE FOR THE NEW AREA IS CAMPUS COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
THE LAND USE FOR THE EXISTING AREA IS, OF COURSE, MIXED USE.
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IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED PD 38 WITH C2 USES AND PD 39 WITH C2 USES.SO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT PD THAT THAT ARE ADDRESSING THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND I HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE THAT WILL JUST PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL, BUT IT'S BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO TRANSFER UNUSED UNITS FROM THE EXISTING LAKESIDE DFW DEVELOPMENT AND MOVING THEM TO THE NEW AREA THAT THEY ARE WANTING TO INCORPORATE INTO LAKESIDE.
SO HERE'S SOME SIGHT PICTURES. THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS LAKESIDE PARKWAY.
HERE WE ARE LOOKING NORTHEAST AND INTO THE SITE YOU CAN SEE THERE.
THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH ACROSS SPINKS ROAD AGAIN INTO THE SITE.
SO HERE IS THE EXHIBIT FOR THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.
THIS IS THE AREA OF LAKESIDE EAST THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE INCORPORATED INTO LAKESIDE.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 15 ACRES HERE AND A LITTLE OVER SIX ACRES ON THE BOTTOM.
AGAIN, THE PROPOSAL IS FOR THE LAND USE TO CHANGE FROM CAMPUS COMMERCIAL TO MIXED USE.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED HERE IS TO TAKE OVER THAT LAST REMAINING CORNER OF THAT INTERSECTION AND MAKE IT PART OF THE OVERALL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT OF LAKESIDE.
THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ZONES THAT ARE PROPOSED THERE.
ONE IS TMR THREE AND THE OTHER IS MUN2. AND SO WITHIN THE TOWN'S MIXED USE ORDINANCE, WE HAVE A VARIETY OF ZONES THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY REQUIRED TO IDENTIFY WHAT PARTICULAR AREA WOULD FALL INTO.
THIS TMR MEANS TRANSITION MAJOR ROADWAY. SO THIS IS WHERE APPROPRIATE.
WHERE YOU ARE ADJACENT TO A MAJOR ROADWAY, YOU WON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF A WHAT ONE WOULD THINK OF AS A TRUE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT WITH AS MUCH VERTICAL MIXED USE, BECAUSE IT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THAT MAJOR ROAD. AND THEN THE THE N STANDS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT IS MORE OF A RESIDENTIALLY FOCUSED PORTION OF THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT I WAS ALLUDING TO EARLIER WITH THE TRANSFER OF THE UNIT.
AND SO THIS IS THE EXISTING LAKESIDE DFW CODE.
IT SHOWS YOU THE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL UNITS THAT ARE ALLOWED IN MMC.
THAT'S THE CORE MU CORE ONE. MUC FOUR. AND THEN MU N.
AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE BELOW IS THE REVISED VERSION OF THIS SECTION OF THE LAKESIDE CODE.
AGAIN ORIGINALLY THERE WAS JUST ONE MU N. SO IT WAS JUST CALLED MUN.
AND SO THEY ARE MOVING THOSE 326 UNITS THAT THEY'VE CAPTURED FROM THERE OVER INTO THIS MU N2.
THIS PART, AS EVERYONE IS AWARE, THAT AREA OF LAKESIDE HAS ALREADY BEEN CONSTRUCTED.
IT WASN'T CONSTRUCTED TO CAPTURE ALL OF THE POTENTIAL UNITS THAT COULD BE BUILT THERE.
AND SO WITH THIS CHANGE, THAT WOULD NO LONGER BE POSSIBLE, IF THE UNITS ARE MOVED TO THE MU N2 ZONE, THEN NO MORE UNITS COULD BE BUILT AND EXISTING LAKESIDE, AND THAT 326 UNITS WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THE NEW ZONE THAT WOULD BE CREATED THAT THEY'RE CALLING LAKESIDE YEAST. SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NOT LIKE, OPEN SPACE THAT HASN'T BEEN BUILT ON.
YES IT IS. IT'S NOT OPEN SPACE. NOT LIKE I SAID.
I COULDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO WHAT IS POSSIBLE, WHETHER ADDITIONAL THINGS COULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN PARKING LOTS USING PODIUM PARKING, WHETHER MORE UNITS COULD BE ADDED TO EXISTING BUILDINGS.
I COULDN'T SPEAK TO THAT. BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THERE'S NOT JUST EMPTY SPACE SITTING THERE.
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OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THIS SHOWS YOU JUST A MORE DETAILED VIEW OF THE TWO SUBZONES THAT ARE PROPOSED AS PART OF THE LAKESIDE EAST DEVELOPMENT.AND SO YOU CAN SEE HERE IS MU TWO AND THEN THE MU TMR THREE.
AND THIS IS THE EXISTING CADDO OFFICE BUILDING.
LEXIN. THIS MIGHT BE TOO EARLY TO ASK. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE.
SO YOU DO. I APOLOGIZE, BUT COULD YOU WALK THROUGH THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE MU TMR THREE AND THE EXISTING CAMPUS TWO ZONING WHAT'S ALLOWED AND WHAT'S NOT ALLOWED IN THOSE TWO AREAS? IN THOSE TWO ZONING? YES. WELL, I DID HAVE A SLIDE THAT LISTED WHAT WAS ALLOWED IN C TWO.
I WILL HAVE TO GO. I DID NOT CREATE A SLIDE FOR ALL OF THE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN TMR. LET'S SEE. I'LL GO TO I'LL JUST PULL UP THAT.
THAT SECTION OF WHAT'S PROPOSED IN THE ORDINANCE.
OKAY. SO THE NEXT ONE. SO TMRW THREE. WHAT WOULD BE PERMITTED IS RETAIL SALES OR SERVICE.
THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE AUTO RELATED SALES OR SERVICE GEARED TOWARD THE AUTOMOBILE, SUCH AS GASOLINE SERVICE STATIONS, AUTO PARTS STORES, THAT SORT OF THING. SO THAT WOULD BE THIS NEXT LINE RETAIL SALES OR SERVICE THAT ARE GEARED MORE TOWARD THE AUTOMOBILE.
SO THE APPLICANT ELECTED TO MAKE NO USES THAT ARE GEARED TOWARD AUTO SERVICE PERMITTED.
WITHIN THIS PROPOSAL, WHICH IS ACTUALLY DIFFERENT FROM THE TOWN'S BASE MU CODE.
BUT THEY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT THEY WERE REALLY TRYING TO MAKE THIS MORE OF A WALKABLE DEVELOPMENT AND NOT SO FOCUSED ON AUTO ORIENTED USES. SO THEY MADE THIS NOT PERMITTED, BUT SO ALL KIND OF RETAIL SALES OR SERVICE USES WOULD BE ALLOWED.
FINANCE, INSURANCE, REAL ESTATE ESTABLISHMENTS BUSINESS OFFICES.
FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS. THIS APPLIES. GYM. ATHLETIC CLUBS.
GAMES. ARCADES. THEATER. CINEMA. DANCE. MUSEUMS. PARKS. ART. ANTIQUE FURNITURE. THIS IS ANOTHER KIND OF RETAIL BUSINESS.
ASSOCIATIONS. DAYCARE. SCHOOLS. LIBRARIES, COLLEGES, HOSPITALS, CIVIC USES.
PRETTY STANDARD PUBLIC SAFETY. RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.
AN INFORMATION CENTER. SO THAT'S WHAT'S PERMITTED IN TMR THREE.
AND I DID CREATE A SLIDE. THAT HAD THE PERMITTED USES IN C2 ZONING. IT'S A LOT. SO I COULD NOT GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE.
BUT YOU KNOW C2 IS CONSIDERED OUR HEAVY COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
SO IT'S A LITTLE MORE INCLUSIVE THAN JUST OUR RETAIL ZONING.
SO IT DOES ALLOW FOR SOME MORE AUTO ORIENTED USES SUCH AS CAR SALES, CAR WASH AUTO SERVICE, THAT SORT OF THING. BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST THE MORE STANDARD THINGS LIKE OUR TYPICAL RETAIL, PHARMACY OFFICES, THAT SORT OF THING. KENNEL VET HOSPITAL.
SO IT DOES ALLOW FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS BY. RIGHT.
WHEREAS THE THE OTHER WOULD NOT. SORRY. WERE WE COUNCIL MEMBER DREW? WHAT WERE YOU GOING TO ASK? I WAS JUST THINKING.
SO WHAT ARE THE MAJOR DIFFERENCE? I MEAN, IS IT THE OTHER ONES MORE RESTRICTIVE? RIGHT? YES. YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. THIS IS WHAT'S JUST EXISTING ON THE SITE.
IT'S JUST A VERY OLD ZONING. THE THOSE TWO PDS I REFERENCED, THEY WERE BACK FROM LIKE 1986.
AND SO WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE SAME KIND OF POLICIES THAT WE DO NOW.
AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER THESE WERE JUST SUP USES.
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THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER CONDITIONS PUT ON EACH OF THEM I WENT THROUGH.THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE FROM PD 38 AND 39.
MINIMUM 15% OF THE NET AREA HAS TO BE LANDSCAPED AND IRRIGATED.
NATIVE TREES THAT ARE GREATER THAN EIGHT INCHES HAVE TO BE SAVED.
THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WAS DIFFERENT HERE IN 39 IS THAT THE HEIGHT WAS RESTRICTED TO TWO STORIES, OR JUST FOLLOWING FAA REQUIREMENTS. LEXIN GOING BACK TO THOSE USES.
I DON'T SEE GAS STATION. I SEEM TO RECALL RACETRAC COMING FORWARD FOR AN SUV A LONG TIME AGO.
YES. THAT'S HERE. CONVENIENCE STORE WITH GASOLINE SALES IS WITH AN SUPP.
SO THAT'S A THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN. OKAY. THANK YOU.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 24, PLEASE? LEXIN 24 I THINK IT WAS 24 WITH THE BIG.
YES. SO WHAT I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT WAS HOTEL OR MOTEL IS AN EXTENDED STAY MOTEL.
I KNOW IT REQUIRES AN SUPP IN C2, BUT IS THE MOTEL EXCLUDED FROM THE MR. THREE? SO I SHOULD PROBABLY GO BACK TO MY PRESENTATION.
I THINK I GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE DETAILS. AND LIKE I SAID, THIS WAS KIND OF JUST BACKUP INFORMATION IN CASE YOU ALL HAD ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS, WHICH YOU DID. BUT SO LET ME GO TO HERE. SO USE MODIFICATIONS.
AND SO THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY FROM THE BASE LAND USE ALLOWANCE THAT WE HAVE WITHIN OUR MIXED USE CODE. AND SO THIS CAN BE THIS CAN BE A LITTLE CONFUSING.
IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN HOW WE DO MOST ZONING DISTRICTS WITH MIXED USE.
BASICALLY, THE TOWN HAS THEIR OWN KIND OF MODEL CODE, WHICH IS A MIXED USE CODE.
AND THEN MOST OF IT IS VERY FLEXIBLE, BUT THERE ARE SOME THERE ARE SOME STANDARDS WITHIN IT.
AND IT DOES HAVE, FOR INSTANCE, A LIST OF ALL THE USES.
AND THEN IT PUTS, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE PERMITTED, NOT PERMITTED OR CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. AND SO THEN WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES FORWARD THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP A MIXED USE PROPERTY, THEY TAKE THAT MODEL CODE AND THEY CAN PROPOSE MODIFICATIONS TO IT.
UPDATES TO IT TO TO KIND OF MEET. AND IN SOME CASES IT'S JUST FILLING IN THE DETAILS BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, A LOT OF THE THE TOWN'S MODEL CODE, IT MIGHT SAY FOR INSTANCE FOR BLOCK LENGTH FLEXIBLE.
SO IT'S REALLY LEAVING IT UP TO THE APPLICANT.
SO IT'S ALLOWING THE APPLICANT TO FILL IN THOSE DETAILS.
BUT IT'S IDENTIFYING THE THINGS THAT THE TOWN DOES WANT STANDARDS ON.
AND SO WHAT I'M HIGHLIGHTING RIGHT HERE IS MODIFICATIONS FROM WHAT THE TOWN'S BASE OR MODEL CODE IS FOR MIXED USE. SO ONE WE MENTIONED JUST A MINUTE AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT.
NORMALLY THIS TMR WOULD ALLOW AUTOMOBILE RELATED RETAIL USES AS PART OF OUR, OUR MODEL CODE.
BUT THE APPLICANT WENT AHEAD AND CHANGED THAT TO BE NOT PERMITTED.
SO THAT'S ONE MODIFICATION THAT'S IN THERE. ANOTHER IS FOR FULL SERVICE HOTEL.
SO THE THERE ARE SOME PROPOSED STANDARDS FOR FULL SERVICE HOTELS WITHIN TMR. THEY ARE REQUESTING SOME ALTERNATE STANDARDS.
THERE'S ALTERNATE STANDARDS ARE A PORTE COCHERE AT THE MAIN ENTRY, A SWIMMING POOL IF POOL IS LOCATED OUTDOORS, A MINIMUM OF 150FT² OF SHADED AREA, A MINIMUM 500FT² OF EXERCISE FACILITY, A MINIMUM 800FT² OF MEETING ROOM, A MINIMUM OF 750FT² OF DINING AREA, AND A FURNISHED LOBBY OR LOUNGE.
NOW, IN THE TOWN'S MODEL CODE, WE REQUIRED THERE TO BE A RESTAURANT, BASICALLY AS PART OF THIS.
SO THE APPLICANT HAS SAID WE DIDN'T REALLY WANT TO PROVIDE A RESTAURANT IN HERE BECAUSE WE THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HIGHER END, NICER RESTAURANTS THAT ARE RIGHT HERE, PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WOULD RATHER BE WORKING WITH THEM WITH OUR HOTEL.
SO INSTEAD WE WANTED TO CREATE SOME OF THESE OTHER STANDARDS TO SHOW YOU THAT THERE WILL BE KIND OF SOME, SOME NICE AMENITIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS, EVEN THOUGH IT DOESN'T HAVE A HOTEL.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT DIFFERS FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING.
BUT I THINK TO ADDRESS CONCERNS YOU MIGHT HAVE, JUST BECAUSE OUR USE HAS ALWAYS SAID HOTEL OR MOTEL, BUT IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO MEET THE TOWN'S CURRENT STANDARDS FOR WHAT THAT HAS TO INCLUDE.
SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO END UP WITH LIKE A SUPER LOW END MOTEL THERE.
IT WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THOSE AMENITIES THAT THE TOWN DOES REQUIRE.
SO ONE IS PERCENTAGE OF OPENINGS FOR DOORS AND WINDOWS.
SO AGAIN THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS WITHIN THE TOWN'S MODEL CODE.
AND THEN THEY THEY TAILORED THAT FOR LAKESIDE.
AND SO THE APPLICANT HAS SAID WELL WE WANT TO USE THE LAKESIDE STANDARDS.
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BUT WE'RE GOING TO SAY WE WANT TO SAY NO MINIMUM WINDOW PERCENTAGE FOR EXTERIOR WALL ENCLOSING RESTAURANT KITCHEN.IT JUST SEEMED LIKE YOU COULD DO ANYTHING. AND THE APPLICANT WAS LIKE, WELL, LET ME CLARIFY THAT.
IT'S NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO HAVE NO WINDOWS, POTENTIALLY, IT'S THAT WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THESE RESTAURANTS WITH REAR THEIR REARS FACING THE ROAD BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE THAT INTERNAL CORRIDOR.
AND SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THAT'S A KITCHEN WALL.
AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO PUT A BUNCH OF WINDOWS INTO THE KITCHEN.
SO THEY CLARIFIED THAT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE STANDARD FOR ALL OF THE WALLS OR FOR ALL OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT SPECIFICALLY FOR RESTAURANTS, FOR THE WALL WHERE THE KITCHEN IS, THAT'S WHERE THEY WANTED TO REDUCE THAT PERCENTAGE TO POTENTIALLY TO HAVING NO OPENINGS AT ALL. AND THEN ALSO THEY WANTED TO INCREASE IT UP TO 85% JUST FOR THE OFFICE BUILDING THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING HERE IN THE TOP CORNER THERE.
I THINK NORMALLY IT WOULD HAVE BEEN 75%. SO THEY WANTED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PERCENTAGE FOR THAT.
THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING A MODIFICATION FOR THESE TWO BUILDINGS, THE HOTEL AND THE OFFICE BUILDING.
SO AGAIN, THAT IS A CHANGE FROM THE TOWN'S MODEL CODE.
AND IF THIS WAS DEVELOPED WITH C2, IT WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GO THAT HIGH.
BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
IT'S THE AREA THAT WE HAD IDENTIFIED AS, YOU KNOW, WANTING TO HAVE MORE OF THOSE LARGE SCALE, WHETHER IT'S OFFICES, HOTELS, THAT SORT OF THING.
SO SO WE PUT THE LAND USE ON IT, BUT DIDN'T CHANGE.
THE ZONING REMAINED THE SAME. AND ARE THE OTHER BUILDINGS STILL LEFT UNRESTRICTED OR RESTRICTED? YES. THE OTHER BUILDINGS WOULD WOULD MEET THAT THAT NORMAL HEIGHT OF TWO STORIES, 2 TO 3 STORIES.
AND. SORRY, YOU SAID TEN STORY. I SAID BASED ON THE LAND USE, IF THEY WERE TO DEVELOP IT UNDER THE TOWN'S LAND USE THAT WE PUT ON HERE, IT WOULD GO UP TO TEN STORIES. BUT THAT'S NOT NOTHING THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.
OKAY. AND YOU SAID 2 OR 3 STORIES. HOW WAS THAT DETERMINED? I JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER OFFHAND. I BELIEVE THAT IT'S TRUE.
BUT LET ME SEE IF I CAN CONFIRM THAT.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO SCROLL DOWN TO. TO THAT PARTICULAR SECTION.
I GOTTA, I GOTTA GO TO PAGE LIKE 43 HERE. OF THIS.
YEAH. HERE WE GO. THAT'S FOR THE PARKING GARAGE.
TWO STORY. OKAY, HERE WE GO. YES. THESE ARE ALL TWO STORIES. TWO STORIES FOR THE FRONT BUILDING.
FIVE STORIES FOR THIS ONE. SIX STORIES FOR THE HOTEL.
THE HOTEL. OKAY. AND JUST TO CLARIFY. SO IF WE DO APPROVE THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, AND THEY COME BACK AND SAY THEY WANT TO REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION, WOULD IT? HOW MANY VOTES WOULD IT REQUIRE TO REMOVE THAT RESTRICTION? IT WOULD ONLY REQUIRE THREE VOTES. IF YOU APPROVE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND MAKE MIXED USE THE THE BASE FOR THIS,
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THEN IT DOES ALLOW FOR AN APPLICANT TO REQUEST MODIFICATIONS WITH THAT.FINAL INSPECTION INDICATING FINISH OUT PERMITS ARE READY TO BE APPLIED FOR.
THE 35,000FT² SHALL BE LOCATED ENTIRELY WITHIN THE TMR THREE SUBZONE, AND SHALL INCLUDE THE BUILDINGS LOCATED BETWEEN THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDING AND FM 2499. AND SO THE THOUGHT BEHIND THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WITH P AND Z OF WANTING TO KIND OF SCREEN THE BACK PORTION, THE MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS FROM VIEW FROM 2499.
AND SO THEY MODIFIED THIS LANGUAGE TO ACTUALLY BE MORE SPECIFIC TO STATE WHAT THAT 35,000FT² HAD TO BE, THAT IT HAD TO INCLUDE THESE FRONT BUILDINGS.
SO JUST TO GO ON FROM THERE. I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED A COUPLE OF THEM, BUT CHANGES FROM P AND Z.
SO FIRST IS AGAIN WHEN IT WAS TALKED ABOUT AT AT P AND Z, THERE WAS SOME CONCERN BECAUSE IT HAD SAID THAT DRIVE THROUGH USES FOR RESTAURANTS WOULD BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, AS WELL AS FOR VETERINARY CLINIC WITH INDOOR PENS.
SO THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TRYING TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
SO THEY MADE THAT CHANGE TO THE CODE. THERE WAS ALSO SOME DISCUSSION AT PNC.
THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT STREET LIGHTS BECAUSE.
SO THERE ARE NO ACTUAL STREETS WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THE APPLICANT IS TRYING TO STILL KIND OF CREATE THAT STREET FEEL WITH THESE PRIVATE DRIVES.
AND SO THEY HAD SAID THAT THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO, TO USE THE THE STREET LIGHTING STANDARDS FROM LAKESIDE IF THEY WANTED TO PUT IN STREET LIGHTING, I THINK THEY WERE NOT CERTAIN AT THE TIME WHETHER THEY MIGHT USE STRING LIGHTS OR STREET LIGHTS, BUT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT IT. AND SO THEY CHANGED IT TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD PUT IN STREET LIGHTS MATCHING THE LAKESIDE STANDARDS TO REALLY DEFINE THAT AREA AS, AS A THOROUGHFARE. THEY ALSO INCREASED THE GROUND FLOOR NON RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE WITHIN THE MUN2 SUBZONE TO 18,000FT². AND SO THAT WOULD BE HERE ON THE FRONT OF THIS BUILDING TO ACTUALLY PUT MORE RETAIL USES ON THE FIRST FLOOR OF THAT BUILDING. AND WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT COMPLY WITH THE ESTABLISHED MINIMUM AND MAXIMUM PERCENTAGES OF OPENINGS FOR LAKESIDE DFW, EXCEPT FOR WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, THE EXTERIOR WALLS ENCLOSING A RESTAURANT KITCHEN.
AND THEN THE MULTI STOREY OFFICE BUILDING AND THE EARNOUT REQUIREMENT WE ALSO DISCUSSED.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT TECHNICALLY A STREET. SO YOU HAVE MORE OF THAT SENSE OF PLACE.
THIS JUST SHOWS THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE PARKING EXCLUSION RADIUS OF 60FT.
YOU'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO HAVE PARKING, LIKE, RIGHT UP AT THE CORNERS.
SO THEY PROVIDED AN EXHIBIT TO SHOW THAT THEY'RE MEETING THAT STANDARD.
HERE'S THE BUILDING HEIGHT AND OPEN SPACE PLAN.
SO I COULD HAVE JUST SCROLLED FORWARD AND GOTTEN TO THIS AND NOT HAD TO FIND IT IN THE ORDINANCE.
SO HERE'S THE TWO STORY AS WE TALKED ABOUT. HERE'S THE PARKING GARAGE.
THAT WOULD ACCOMPANY THE OFFICE BUILDING AND THEN THE THE SIX STORY HOTEL.
THIS IS THE OPEN SPACE THAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING WITHIN THE NEW AREA.
AND SO THEY'VE INCORPORATED THIS INTO THEIR OPEN SPACE EXHIBIT.
HERE IS THE PARK AND OPEN SPACE DIAGRAM MORE SPECIFICALLY.
AND SO THIS DID GO THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
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THEY UTILIZED THE PARK CREDIT OPTION SO THEY WOULD AMENITIZED SOME OF THESE AREAS.AND THE PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THAT.
THEY WENT TO THEM ONCE. THEY MADE SOME REQUESTS.
THEY HAD A WORK SESSION. THEY WENT BACK AND THE PARKS BOARD LIKED THE CHANGES THEY MADE.
AND SO THIS REPRESENTS WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THE PARKS BOARD.
MINIMUM OPEN SPACE REQUIRED. ACRES WERE 1.7. THEY ARE PROVIDING 3.6.
THE APPLICANT HAS MORE DETAILS ABOUT KIND OF THE SPECIFICS AND THE AMENITIES OF THOSE.
SO I'M GOING TO LET THEM EXPLAIN THAT TO YOU.
ACCEPTING THE PROPOSAL OF 6.81 ACRES BASED ON THE DEVELOPER'S NUMBERS ON ITS PARK CREDIT SUMMARY SECTION, ACCEPTING IN FULL AT HIGH LEVELS. THESE TWO AREAS ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX, SEVEN AND NINE.
AND SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET CREDIT FOR THAT. THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE TO USE OUR FUNDS TO MONETIZE THEM.
SIGNAGE. THESE ARE WHERE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING MONUMENT SIGNS.
THEY ARE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGE TO THE NUMBER OF MONUMENT SIGNS THAT ARE ALLOWED.
THIS WOULD BE ALLOWED BASED ON THE TOWN'S CURRENT SIGN ORDINANCE.
THE CHANGE THAT THEY WANTED TO REQUEST IS JUST TO SIGN SETBACKS.
THEY WANTED TO ALLOW THE SIGNS TO BE CLOSER TO THE ROAD AND TO THE PROPERTY LINES, AND WOULD TYPICALLY BE ALLOWED, BUT IT IS IN COMPLIANCE MATCHING WHAT'S EXISTING IN THE LAKESIDE CODE.
SO I GUESS WE I THINK IT WAS ON PAGE 15. WE WERE GOING OVER THE MAX HEIGHT OF THE BUILDINGS, BUT WE WEREN'T REALLY TALKING ABOUT ANYTHING IN THE MIXED USE AREA FOR THOSE APARTMENTS.
DO WE HAVE A MAX HEIGHT FOR THOSE? IT'S FOR STORY. THIS IS THE APARTMENT BUILDING IS FOUR STORY.
AND THEN THERE IS I THINK POTENTIALLY A RESTAURANT PROPOSED THERE.
THAT WOULD BE A TWO STORY MAX IN THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AREA.
OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THE TOWNHOMES ARE CONSIDERED UNDER THE FOUR STORY AS WELL.
YES. OKAY. LEXIN. WE RECEIVED QUITE A BIT OF COMMENT OR QUITE A FEW EMAILS OVER THE LAST WEEK OR SO REGARDING THIS, AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES THAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS TRAFFIC.
HAS THE TOWN LOOKED AT THE TRAFFIC OR IS THAT SOMETHING WE SHOULD ADDRESS TO THE APPLICANT? BUT I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AND I CAN DO IT NOW, OR I CAN DO THAT LATER. WHATEVER IS BEST. WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
I KNOW WE WE DO ACTUALLY HAVE MATT HOTELLING HERE, SO HE COULD PROBABLY BEST ANSWER TRAFFIC QUESTIONS, BUT WE DID LOOK AT TRAFFIC FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU. MAYOR. TOWN COUNCIL. TOWN STAFF. MY NAME IS JIMMY ARCHIE REALTY CAPITAL, 909 LAKE CAROLYN PARKWAY, IRVING, TEXAS. AS USUAL, LEXIN DOES A FANTASTIC JOB PRESENTING ALL THE FACTS OF THE APPLICATION.
SO I'M GOING TO TRY AND KEEP THIS CONDENSED AND REALLY STICK TO THE QUESTION WHY? WHY ARE WE BRINGING THIS FORWARD? WHY DO WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF LAND? SO I WANTED TO START OUT WITH A COUPLE AERIAL PHOTOS BECAUSE I THINK JUST TO THE AVERAGE PERSON, THIS THESE AERIAL PHOTOS TELL YOU A LOT. SO THE PROPERTY HERE, YOU'RE LOOKING SOUTHWEST ACROSS TOWARDS THE LAKE EXISTING LAKESIDE PROJECT.
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YOU CAN SEE HOW MUCH FRONTAGE THE PROPERTY HAS ON 24.99.SO I THINK IT KIND OF IT SCREAMS OF A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT THIS PROJECT IN TERMS OF COMPATIBILITY TO THE OTHER THREE CORNERS. IT ALSO SHOWS YOU WE HAVE TWO INTERSECTIONS.
SO THE STOPLIGHTS, TRAFFIC, IT ALL CREATES GREAT RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES.
THE CADDO OFFICE BUILDING WAS AN OUT PARCEL THAT THE PREVIOUS LANDOWNER SOLD.
THE PROJECT CAN GET BUILT. SO HE SOLD THIS OUT PARCEL AND AN EXECUTIVE SUITE OFFICE BUILDING, A TWO STORY EXECUTIVE SUITE OFFICE BUILDING WAS BUILT IN THE BACK CORNER.
I'D REALLY LOVE TO HAVE THAT PARCEL INCORPORATED INTO THE PLAN, BUT WE DID.
WE DID OUR BEST TO PLAN AROUND IT AND TRY AND CREATE A NICE, COHESIVE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THEN THIS AERIAL PHOTO IS LOOKING EAST. AND YOU CAN SEE YOU KNOW, IN BOTH PHOTOS, YOU CAN SEE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE DIRECTLY BUFFER THE PROPERTY.
SO TO THE SOUTH IS A TWO STORY OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THE NEW LOS CAMINOS RESTAURANT DIRECTLY EAST IS OBVIOUSLY THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT.
LOTS OF 18 WHEELERS COMING IN AND OUT OF THE BACK OF THOSE BUILDINGS.
BUT AGAIN, THIS, THIS AERIAL HIGHLIGHTS THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY WHICH.
24.99 IS AN EXTREMELY BUSY ROAD. SO WHILE IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY, IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO BRING FORWARD A PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY, WALKABLE PROJECT. BECAUSE 24.99 IS NOT THE MOST WALKABLE STREET THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE THAT DISTRICT ON LAKESIDE. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU GO BACK A SLIDE YOU KNOW, THE WALKABLE DISTRICT IS ALL ON THE INTERIOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT ON LAKESIDE PARKWAY, WHERE WE'VE INTENTIONALLY DESIGNED THE STREETS TO SLOW TRAFFIC AND CREATE A SAFE WALKING DISTRICT.
SO, AS LEXIN EXPLAINED, WE'VE KIND OF INTERNALLY TURNED THIS PROJECT FROM THE OUTSIDE IN TO TRY AND CREATE THAT WALKABLE DISTRICT ON THE INSIDE OF THE PROJECT. JUST QUICKLY HIT ON A FEW THINGS. LAKESHORE WAS APPROVED BACK IN 2012.
IT WASN'T ALL OUR IDEA. WE CAME TO THE TOWN, AND WE'RE KIND OF QUICKLY KICKED OUT OF TOWN WITH THE IDEA OF A MIXED USE PROJECT. WE WENT AND SPENT THE NEXT YEAR SPEAKING TO THE RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND AND SHOWED SHOW THE SHOW THE RESIDENTS A BLANK PIECE OF PAPER AND INVITED THEM OUT TO THE PROPERTY AND ASKED THEM TO DREAM WITH US.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY. WHAT DID THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE ON IT? SO AT THE END OF THE DAY OVER A YEAR OF WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS, IT REALLY BECAME A PLAN BY THE PEOPLE.
FOR THE PEOPLE. WE JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE DEVELOPERS OF IT.
WHY HAS IT BEEN WHY HAS LAKESIDE BEEN SUCCESSFUL WHEN LAKESIDE PARKWAY AND 2499 IS NOT REALLY A RETAIL INTERSECTION? 12 YEARS AGO, WE HAD TO BEG RETAIL BROKERS TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT WITH US.
IN FACT, THE ONLY ONE THAT WOULD TAKE THE JOB MADE US PAY THEM A FEE IN ADVANCE OF DOING ANY TRANSACTIONS JUST TO WORK ON THE PROJECT, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE FAITH AND CONFIDENCE THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEASE THE PROJECT.
WE TOOK THE PROJECT IN-HOUSE. WE DID ALL THE SALES AND MARKETING IN-HOUSE SO THAT WE WERE SPEAKING DIRECTLY WITH THE MARKET AND WE COULD HELP YOU KNOW, DICTATE THE DIRECTION OF HOW THE PROJECT WAS GOING TO TURN OUT.
SO IT'S 160 ACRES. THE STEWART FAMILY OWNED LAKESIDE.
THEY HAD BEEN ASSEMBLING THE LAND FOR 40 OR 50 YEARS.
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TO CREATE A LEASE, TO CREATE INCOME. IT'S ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT WHAT ADDS VALUE TO THE NEXT PIECE OF LAND, TO THE NEXT BUILDING, TO THE ADJACENT TENANTS.AND, YOU KNOW, HERE WE ARE 13 YEARS INTO IT, AND WE'RE KIND OF IN THE FOURTH QUARTER OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BUILDING OUT THE PROJECT DOWN BY THE LAKE. AND AGAIN, IT'S A COMBINATION OF RETAIL AND RESTAURANT AMENITIES AND NATURE DRAWS VISITORS FROM A FARTHER DISTANCE THAN THEY'D OTHERWISE TRAVEL TO SPEND THEIR TIME AND MONEY.
AND WHEN I SAY ANALYTICS POPULATION RESTAURANTS, BUSINESSES WANT PEOPLE LIVING AROUND THEIR PROJECT AND THEY WANT THEM LIVING AROUND IT AT A CLOSE DISTANCE. SO OUR PROJECT TO THE WEST HAS THE LAKE, TO THE EAST HAS WAREHOUSES, TO THE SOUTH, HAS UNDEVELOPED LAND. THAT IS VERY CLEAR ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT THE TOWN DOES NOT WANT A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL UNITS DOWN IN THAT PART OF TOWN.
SO ALL THE POPULATION IS TO THE NORTH OF OUR PROJECT.
SO ONE THING THAT THE REASON LAKESIDE SUCCEEDS IS IT'S UNIQUE AND INTERESTING AND DIFFERENT, AND IT DOES ATTRACT CUSTOMERS FROM A WIDER RANGE THAN A TYPICAL NEIGHBORHOOD SHOPPING CENTER MIGHT OTHERWISE ATTRACT.
AND HERE WE ARE, 13 YEARS LATER. WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE THE SAME PHILOSOPHY, PHILOSOPHY ACROSS THE STREET, GET RID OF THE C-2 ZONING THAT WANTS TO CAPITALIZE ON TRAFFIC, GOING HOME AND GOING UP AND DOWN 24.99 AND CREATE A WALKABLE, MIXED USE, SAFE DEVELOPMENT THAT THAT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM FLOWER MOUND DOWN, SOMETIMES PAST ONE, TWO, MAYBE THREE SHOPPING CENTERS TO COME DOWN TO LAKESIDE BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY HAVE NEXT TO THEIR HOME.
NOT THAT THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH WHAT'S NEXT TO THEIR HOME, BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND EXPERIENTIAL. WE HAVE 45 RETAIL RESTAURANTS, SERVICE BUSINESSES INCLUDING MOVIE HOUSE AND SEVERAL OF THE TOP, TOP GROSSING RESTAURANTS IN TOWN. AGAIN, EVERY DECISION WAS ABOUT THE LONG TERM INVESTMENT IN THE PROJECT, AND WE STILL OWNED ALL THE ALL THE RETAIL UP FRONT OF LAKESIDE IS OWNED BY THE STEWART FAMILY PARTNERSHIP, WITH NO INTENTIONS OF EVER SELLING UP UNTIL MAYBE UNTIL THE LAST PARCEL THAT THEY'RE NO LONGER INVESTED IN.
BUT THAT RETAIL UP FRONT IS THE VITAL. IT'S THE HEARTBEAT OF THE WHOLE PROJECT.
IT'S WHAT DREW PEOPLE TO WANT TO LIVE AND WORK AROUND THE PROJECT.
IS THAT RETAIL UP FRONT, AND WE WANT TO KEEP THAT IN CONTROL AND CONTINUE TO CURATE IT.
SO THE HOMES IN LAKESIDE SELL FOR THE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PER SQUARE FOOT PRICES IN THE ENTIRE TOWN.
TAXABLE VALUES ARE SOME OF THE HIGHEST PER ACRE IN TOWN.
LAKESIDE TOWER THE CONDO TOWER THERE'S. LAST TIME I CHECKED, THE TAX ROLLS WAS $107 MILLION.
THE NEW BUILDING THAT JUST GOT BUILT AND OPENED IT ESTIMATED VALUATION OF 180 MILLION.
THAT WOULD PRODUCE $720,000 IN ANNUAL TAX REVENUE TO THE TOWN.
AND THEN FINALLY, THE MIXED USE CORE, WHICH ARE THE THREE KIND OF MIXED USE APARTMENT COMMUNITIES.
THEY TOTAL 238 MILLION. THAT'S 9.2 MILLION AN ACRE AND ALMOST $1 MILLION OF TAX REVENUE TO THE TOWN.
I ONLY POINT THOSE NUMBERS OUT. WELL, A COUPLE OF REASONS.
IT SHOWS YOU THE VALUE OF MIXED USE. IT'S A SUPPLY AND DEMAND THING.
THERE'S JUST NOT A LOT OF SUPPLY OF GOOD MIXED USE DONE.
RIGHT. AND WHEN IT'S DONE RIGHT, THERE'S LOTS OF DEMAND.
AND THAT CREATES INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES. IT'S A SUPPLY AND SIMPLE SUPPLY AND DEMAND ISSUE.
AND THE OTHER THING IS, YOU KNOW WHAT LAKESIDE MAY NOT BE FOR EVERYBODY IN TOWN, BUT MY HOPE IS THAT EVERYBODY IN TOWN ADOPTS THIS PROJECT BECAUSE IT CREATES A LOT OF TAX REVENUE, THAT THERE'S NO PED, THERE'S NO TIF, THAT MONEY IS NOT LOCKED IN LAKESIDE.
THAT MONEY CAN BE SPENT ALL AROUND TOWN. IT CAN BE SPENT ON WEST FOR NATURE PRESERVES.
IT CAN BE SPENT IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN WITH SOCCER FIELDS, IMPROVING DRAINAGE DITCHES.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHERE OUR MONEY'S BEING SPENT AROUND TOWN, I KNOW THAT.
WE'VE DONE A GOOD JOB WITH LAKESIDE. AND THEN LAST ONE OF OUR PREMISES, BECAUSE WE KNOW THE TOWN'S GOAL FROM THE DAY WE GOT HERE DEVELOPING THE PROJECT WAS WE WANT CLASS A OFFICE BUILDINGS DOWN IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN.
WE WANT A GOOD COMMERCIAL TAX BASE DOWN THERE, AND WE WANT GOOD JOBS IN OUR TOWN.
AND SO WE FELT WE NEED A GREAT PLACE TO ATTRACT GREAT OFFICE TENANTS.
AND SO WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO WORK WITH THE ROACH FAMILY.
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WE PURCHASED THEIR PROPERTY. IT WAS AN ADD ON TO LAKESIDE, THE ORIGINAL LAKESIDE LAND PARCEL.AND I WAS JUST ON A TOUR LAST WEEK THAT THE COMPANY THAT WAS OCCUPYING THE TOP FLOOR GOT BOUGHT OUT BY A COMPANY DOWN IN HOUSTON, AND THEY BOUGHT OUT OF THEIR LEASE. AND WE WERE TOURING A FORTUNE 200 COMPANY LOOKING TO TAKE THAT TOP FLOOR OF THE BUILDING, AND I'LL STOP THERE. I'VE TALKED ABOUT A BUNCH OF THIS.
I JUST WANT TO JUMP DOWN TO THE THE BOTTOM RETAIL SITE VISIBILITY.
CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE LACK OF RESIDENTIAL DENSITY CHALLENGE IN ATTRACTING RETAIL AND RESTAURANT? THE WAREHOUSES. SO THE STRENGTH OF THE SITE I WANT TO VISIT ON THIS, THE SITE IS ON THE GOING HOME SIDE OF 24.99.
IT'S THROUGH THE LIGHT ON THE RIGHT. SO YOU'LL HEAR RETAIL BROKERS COIN SAY THAT PHRASE QUITE OFTEN.
THAT MEANS YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, YOU GET THROUGH THE STOPLIGHT AND YOU CAN TURN RIGHT INTO A SHOPPING CENTER, GET WHAT YOU NEED, AND IMMEDIATELY HOP BACK OUT AND GET ON THE HIGHWAY AND GET ON YOUR ON YOUR WAY.
THAT IS A RETAILERS THAT'S WHERE RETAILERS THAT WANT QUICK IN AND OUT.
IT'S JUST A MENTALITY, THE WAY THE SHOPPER WORKS.
SO THAT IS I MEAN, THE C-2 ZONING THAT WE HAVE THERE'S THERE COULD BE A LOT OF DEMAND FOR THE TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO BE THROUGH THE LIGHT ON THE RIGHT, BUT THOSE ARE AUTOMOBILE FOCUSED, QUICK IN AND OUT TYPE OF BUSINESSES FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING HOME.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TRAFFIC THROUGH HERE IS COMING FROM NORTH OF THE SITE.
WE TALKED ABOUT VISIBILITY AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE BIGGEST SITE IS ACROSS FROM LAKESIDE CREATING OPPORTUNITY FOR MORE SUCCESSFUL MIXED USE. SO WHY DID WE PURCHASE THE PROPERTY? WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ACTUALLY A LITTLE OVER THREE YEARS AGO.
WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY BECAUSE I THINK A COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL MENTIONED THIS THE PREVIOUS OWNER.
YOU CAN SEE HE SOLD OFF THE ONE BUILDING, ONE SITE TO THE EXECUTIVE SUITE BUILDING.
AND THEN THERE WAS A RACE TRACK THAT CAME THROUGH, I BELIEVE, FOR THE CORNER OF SPINKS IN 24.99.
THEN THERE WAS A KWIK TRIP THAT WAS LOOKING AT THE CORNER OF LAKES LAKESIDE IN 24.99.
AND THEN THERE WERE SOME PAD SITED DEVELOPMENTS.
WE WERE SCARED TO DEATH THAT THE PROPERTY WAS GOING TO GET PARCELED OUT AND THERE WOULD BE NO CONNECTIVITY, NO COMPATIBILITY, AND IT WOULD BE A DETRIMENT TO THE 15 YEARS OF INVESTMENT THAT THAT WE AND MANY PEOPLE, HUNDREDS OF STAKEHOLDERS HAVE MADE INTO THE LAKESIDE PROJECT.
SO WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THREE YEARS AGO, AND WE SET OUT TO DO WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WHEN YOU COME TO FLOWER MOUND, WHICH IS TALK TO THE RESIDENTS, TALK TO THE COMMUNITY, SEE IF WHAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT DOING IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS.
SO WE STARTED THIS LAKESIDE. LAKESIDE IS GROWING PUBLIC OUTREACH.
WE PUT SIGNS ON THE PROPERTY. WE STARTED A WEBSITE JUST TRYING TO DO WHAT WE DID 15 YEARS AGO AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY, SEE WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED. AND WE HELD PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETINGS AT THE MOVIE HOUSE DID NUMEROUS COMMUNITY GROUP PRESENTATIONS WHERE WE INVITED IN TO TALK ABOUT LAKESIDE. WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIGNS, THE WEBSITE WE CREATED, AN EDUCATIONAL VIDEO. WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD 1000 RESIDENTS RESPOND TO THE LAKESIDE IS GROWING SIGNS WITH SUGGESTIONS FOR POTENTIAL RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS FOR THIS PROJECT.
SO I BROUGHT A COPY OF ALL THOSE IDEAS. I'VE GOT 11, 11 BY 17 LISTS OF ALL THE BUSINESSES THAT THE RESIDENTS WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND YES, THERE'S H-E-B. YES, THERE'S TRADER JOE'S, YES.
I MEAN, YOU'VE SEEN THE SURVEYS THAT YOU DO YOURSELF.
WE WE WE TRY TO GET H-E-B AND H-E-B TOLD US NO, THEY SAID THERE'S NOT ENOUGH RESIDENTIAL DENSITY.
IF WE'RE GOING TO FLOWER MOUND, WE WANT TO BE UP IN THE MIDDLE OF TOWN. THEY SUBSEQUENTLY BOUGHT A SITE IN COPPELL, AND THEY'RE UNDER CONSTRUCTION NOW. AND THE COMMENT WAS THAT THAT STORES TOO CLOSE TO THIS PART OF FLOWER MOUND, ALL THE RESIDENTS AND SELLER AND FLOWER MOUND ARE GOING TO COME TO COPPELL AND SHOP AT OUR STORE IN COPPELL. SO THE GROCERY STORE IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
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AND IF WE COULD GET ONE AND CREATE A NICE COMPATIBLE DEVELOPMENT TO COMPLEMENT LAKESIDE, THEN WE WERE ALL FOR IT.IT DIDN'T HAPPEN. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. SO WE MOVED ON TO THE NEXT.
SO YOU CAN SEE HERE'S A LIST OF THE TYPE OF TOP NOTCH, HIGH QUALITY IN DEMAND RETAILERS AND RESTAURANTS THAT WE WE SAW A LOT OF THESE IDEAS COMING TO US.
SO I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GIVE THIS TO YOU GUYS.
FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH, IT'S YOU'VE SEEN A LOT OF IT IN YOUR SURVEYS, BUT I THINK YOU'LL BE IMPRESSED WITH HOW MUCH TIME THE RESIDENTS TOOK TO SHARE THEIR IDEAS WITH US. HERE'S JUST A PHOTO FROM ONE OF THE MOVIE HOUSE PRESENTATIONS.
THE TOP RIGHT WAS A FUNNY. WE ASKED AT THE END, WOULD YOU PREFER MORE OF LAKESIDE OR H-E-B? I THINK THIS WAS WOULD YOU PREFER MORE LAKESIDE? AND MORE PEOPLE ACTUALLY RAISED THEIR HAND FOR LAKESIDE THAN H-E-B? I THINK A LOT OF THE ECB'S COMING FROM A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE LAKESIDE AREA.
YEAH. SO A LOT OF TIME WITH THE COMMUNITY HERE.
RETAIL RESTAURANT ON THE GROUND FLOOR. OFFICE, SERVICE ORIENTED RETAIL, MAYBE UP ON THE TOP FLOOR.
A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN ACROSS THE STREET WHERE YOU HAVE APARTMENTS OVER RETAIL.
BUT THESE WOULD BE STRAIGHT COMMERCIAL. THESE ARE ONE STORY BUILDINGS.
THIS IS MEANT TO BE THE WALKABLE STREET HERE.
SO THE RESTAURANTS AND PATIOS ARE AWAY FROM 24.99.
THE PATIOS ARE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING, SO THE BUILDINGS PROTECT THEM FROM THE WEST SETTING SUN AND THE BUILDINGS PROTECT THE PATIOS FROM THE TRAFFIC AND NOISE GOING UP ON 24.
99 VERY SIMILAR TO HOW THE LOS CAMINOS BUILDING RECENTLY GOT BUILT, WHERE THE PATIO IS ON THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUILDING, AND WHEN YOU'RE ON THE PATIO, YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT 24.99 IS THERE.
SO THAT WAS VERY UNTRADITIONAL TO TURN BUILDINGS AWAY FROM A ROAD WITH 60,000 CARS A DAY.
THIS IS PLANNED TO BE A FOUR STORY. A FOUR STORY OFFICE BUILDING.
THE ZONING ALLOWS FIVE, BUT IT'S PLANNED TO BE FOUR STORIES.
STRUCTURED PARKING HERE FOR THE OFFICE TENANTS.
THESE HIGH QUALITY CORPORATE CLASS A TENANTS DEMAND SHADED PARKING.
YOU WILL NOT GET THEM WITH SURFACE PARKING. THAT'S THE CATTLE CATL BUILDING.
THESE ARE FOUR STOREY APARTMENTS. WE WANT SOME RETAIL ON THE GROUND FLOOR HERE.
WE ASKED SINCE THE PM'S MEETING, IF WE THINK WE CAN FILL THIS WITH RETAIL, WE INCREASE THE MAXIMUM THAT WE CAN DO ON THE GROUND FLOOR OF THESE BUILDINGS. IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP IT OPEN IF WE THINK WE CAN GET SOME RETAIL ON THE INSIDE HERE.
WE CREATED THAT OPTION. SINCE THE PNC, THESE ARE TOWNHOMES.
AND THEN THIS IS A HOTEL HERE. THIS IS A BETTER PERSPECTIVE OF IT.
SO THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST KIND OF FROM THE INTERSECTION OF 24.99 AND LAKESIDE.
AGAIN YOU CAN SEE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE EVERYTHING HERE ON THE INTERIOR OF THE PROJECT HERE AND USE THE BUILDINGS TO SHIELD THIS INNER STREET FROM THE NOISE AND. OF 24.99 IN THE, IN THE WESTERN SETTING SUN.
AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO HERE'S THE ELECTRICAL SUBSTATION.
SO ONE OF THE KEY STRATEGIES WAS LET'S BUILD THE PARKING GARAGE FOR THE APARTMENT BUILDING.
AND LET'S BACK THAT UP TO THE SUBSTATION SO THAT NOBODY HAS TO LOOK OUT OVER THIS EYESORE.
AND I SHOULD ADD THAT THE PARKING STRUCTURE OTHER THAN THE RECENTLY BUILT TOWERS, LAKESIDE TOWER, WHICH HAS A PARKING STRUCTURE AND 3111 SUNSET THE EXISTING MULTIFAMILY IN THE PROJECT IS ALL SURFACE PARKING AND TUCK UNDER PARKING.
THIS IS STRUCTURED PARKING. SO AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE SHADED SECURED PARKING IN A PARKING GARAGE.
IF YOU'RE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU PARK ON THE THIRD FLOOR AND YOU WALK RIGHT INTO THE FLOOR OF YOUR BUILDING. THIS RAISES RAISES THE BAR FROM WHAT WE'VE EVEN BUILT ACROSS THE STREET. THE UNITS THAT ARE BEING TRANSFERRED OVER ARE BEING TRANSFERRED FROM A.
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SURFACE PARK TO A STRUCTURED PARKING PROJECT.WRONG WAY. LEXIN TOUCHED ON THIS, BUT I REALLY WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THIS.
WE CAME IN HERE TO PRESENT THE PLAN THAT WE THINK THE TOWN WANTS.
SO WE CAME IN AND OFFERED UP TO BUILD ALL 35,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL SPACE RIGHT HERE ON THE FRONTAGE, BEFORE A SINGLE APARTMENT CAN BE OCCUPIED HERE.
WE WANT THE TOWN TO KNOW WE'RE COMMITTED TO DELIVERING THE PLACE.
THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE ACROSS THE STREET. WE'RE NOT HERE.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T BUILD THE PLACE, YOU'RE GOING TO KEEP LOOKING AT EASTERN RED CEDARS.
BECAUSE IF WE CAN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THESE BUILDINGS FINANCED AND MAYBE PRE LEASE, BUT AT A MINIMUM FINANCED, HOPING THAT THE TENANTS WILL COME, THEN NONE OF THIS GETS BUILT BACK HERE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS THE PNC. IT TOOK US FOUR HOURS TO GET TO THE FACT THAT THE PNC DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE APARTMENTS, AND THEN THEY DENIED THE PROJECT. SO I GUESS I WANT TO ADDRESS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM AND JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE ASKING FOR ON THE APARTMENTS.
OKAY. THERE. AND IT'S LIKE 326 UNITS. WHY ARE YOU ASKING FOR SUCH A RIDICULOUS NUMBER OF UNITS? LIKE, WHY ISN'T IT 350 OR 300? WELL, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 326 ENTITLED UNITS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN BUILT ACROSS THE STREET IN THESE SUBZONES.
THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND. I KNOW HOW DIFFICULT HIGH DENSITY ZONING IS IN THIS TOWN.
I KNOW YOU KNOW THIS COUNCIL. A LOT OF FOLKS WERE ELECTED ON NOT APPROVING HIGH DENSITY PROJECTS.
WHAT ARE WE? WE'RE NOW APRIL OF 2025. SO OVER TWO YEARS WE'VE HAD AN APPLICATION INTO THE TOWN.
SO WE SPENT REALLY ABOUT AT LEAST THE LAST YEAR WORKING WITH THE CURRENT APARTMENT OWNERS IN LAKESIDE TO GET THEIR CONSENT TO GIVE AWAY, NOT GIVE AWAY.
BUT ALLOW US TO USE THEIR UNITS ACROSS THE STREET.
BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO BRING A PROJECT FORWARD TO THIS TOWN COUNCIL WHERE YOU ARE HAVING TO APPROVE ANY NEW ENTITLED RESIDENTIAL UNITS, ALL WE'RE ASKING YOU TO DO IS TAKE ENTITLED UNITS THAT WERE APPROVED BY PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCILS, AND LET US USE THEM ACROSS THE STREET TO EXTEND A GREAT PROJECT AND CREATE A GREAT CORNER TO COMPLEMENT THE EXISTING LAKESIDE. SO THAT'S WHERE 326 CAME FROM. IT'S NOT THAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE UNITS, I WOULD BE MEETING WITH EACH OF YOU.
I MIGHT NOT BE HERE AT THE PODIUM ASKING YOU FOR ZONING APPROVAL, BUT I WOULD BE TELLING YOU THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR THIS CORNER IS A MIXED USE PROJECT WITH APARTMENTS IN ABOUT THE AMOUNT THAT I'M PROPOSING HERE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE PROBABLY WOULD HAVE STARTED DEVELOPING THE PROPERTY C-2 ZONING BY NOW IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THESE ENTITLED UNITS TO BRING FORWARD, BECAUSE I DID NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE BRINGING A PROJECT FORWARD, ASKING FOR NEW APARTMENT ENTITLEMENTS FROM THIS COUNCIL.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IN COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL YOU ASKED THE QUESTION.
THOSE ENTITLEMENTS CURRENTLY EXIST WHERE APARTMENT BUILDINGS HAVE BEEN BUILT.
IS THAT GOING TO BE IN OUR LIFETIME? ODDS ARE THAT IT WON'T BE.
BUT THE FACT STILL REMAINS. THOSE UNITS EXIST ON THE LAND.
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WHY DID THEY DO THAT? BECAUSE HIGH TIDES LIFT ALL SHIPS AND THEY WANTED TO SEE A GOOD QUALITY DEVELOPMENT GET BUILT ACROSS THE STREET, RATHER THAN WHAT THE CURRENT ZONING WOULD ALLOW.SO OPEN SPACES, I JUST WANT TO DIVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER INTO THE OPEN SPACES ON THE PROJECT.
WE WORKED REALLY HARD AND I HAVE TO COMMEND THE TOWN.
THE PARKS BOARD PROCESS WAS IT WAS TOOK SOME TIME, BUT IT JUST WAS GRATIFYING BECAUSE IT TURNED OUT A BETTER PROJECT THAN WE CAME IN WITH. SO BETWEEN THE RESTAURANTS HERE WE HAVE A ACTIVITIES PLAZA PLANNED.
AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE SPACES THAT ACTIVATE THE RESTAURANTS ADJACENT TO THEM, CREATE A DIFFERENT REASON FOR PEOPLE TO TRAVEL DOWN TO LAKESIDE AND THEN ACTUALLY SPEND TIME THERE, WHICH IS THE EXACT OPPOSITE OF C2.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO COME HERE AND SPEND AN HOUR, AN HOUR AND A HALF, TWO HOURS AT LAKESIDE.
SO THESE SPACES HELP DO THAT. THIS IS AN ACTIVITIES PLAZA WHERE WE'LL HAVE HUMAN SIZED, MAYBE CHECKERBOARDS, JENGA, CORNHOLE GAMES. OF COURSE WE'LL WE'LL PLAN THE RESTAURANTS ADJACENT TO IT WHERE THAT FUNCTIONS WELL WITH THEM.
AND THEN OVER HERE WE WANT TO EXPAND ON THE MUSIC SERIES THAT WE HAVE GOING ACROSS THE STREET AND DO ANOTHER LITTLE, SMALL, LITTLE MUSIC SERIES HERE SO WE CAN HAVE SOME LIVE MUSIC GOING IN THIS PLAZA HERE.
IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN TO BOB'S OR MEDIA IN GRAPEVINE, THEY HAVE A CUTE LITTLE SCULPTURE IN THE GRASS, AND THE KIDS LIKE TO CLIMB ON IT, AND PEOPLE LIKE TO TAKE PICTURES.
IN FACT, THAT'S A PICTURE RIGHT THERE OF THAT ONE.
OOPS. SO CENTRAL PARK. SO THIS AREA IS IN FRONT OF THE TOWNHOMES AND THE APARTMENTS.
THIS IS DOUBLES AS A DRY DETENTION POND, PLUS A BIG OPEN LANDSCAPE GRASSED AREA THAT PEOPLE CAN RUN WITH THEIR DOGS, THROW A FRISBEE. JUST UTILIZE THE SPACE RATHER THAN JUST DO A TYPICAL FENCED IN DETENTION POND.
AND THEN WE CREATE A LITTLE PLAZA OVER HERE NEXT TO THE OFFICE BUILDINGS WHERE THE EXISTING EXISTING CATTLE BUILDING, THEIR TENANTS COULD WALK OUT AND USE THIS. AND THEN OUR, OUR TENANTS OVER HERE IN THE OFFICE BUILDING COULD COME THROUGH THE GARAGE A PLACE TO JUST ESCAPE THE OFFICE, MAYBE HAVE LUNCH AND, AND MAYBE PUT A COUPLE SMALL ACTIVITIES IN THERE.
SO I'M GOING TO END OH. LAST ONE. THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITES.
SO ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT. WE HAD SOME PRAIRIE LAND ON THE PROJECT, AND THE SEC ASKED US TO PRESERVE THAT PRAIRIE LAND. SO WE CAME OVER HERE TO THE EAST SIDE AND CREATED THIS NATURE TRAIL THAT TRAVELS ALL DOWN THE EAST SIDE OF THE PROJECT.
WE REPLANT SOME OF THAT NATURE. THE PRAIRIE GRASS HERE.
AND THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND LAKESIDE TO THE SUBDIVISIONS ON THE EAST SIDE OF 24.99. SO UP AND DOWN SPINKS ROAD, THE NEW TOLL BROTHERS SUBDIVISION.
IF THEY WANT TO GO TO THE EXISTING LAKESIDE, THEY CAN COME DOWN TO LAKESIDE PARKWAY AND JUST CROSS RIGHT HERE, OR THEY CAN JUST POP INTO LAKESIDE EAST. THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL FUN AMENITY, AND IT'S A GREAT BUFFER KIND OF BETWEEN THE INDUSTRIAL AREA AND OUR BUILDINGS HERE. SO I'M JUST GOING TO FINISH WITH A LITTLE VIDEO.
ONE LOCATION, ONE COMMUNITY, ONE BRAND LAKESIDE.
BUT PLACE PEOPLE LOVE. LAKESIDE IS BUSTLING WITH LIFE.
VISITORS CAN INDULGE IN RETAIL THERAPY, EXPERIENCE DIVERSE DINING AND ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS, AND PARTAKE IN EXCITING COMMUNITY EVENTS AND SO MUCH MORE.
EXPERIENCE THE TRUE ESSENCE OF A LIVE WORK AND PLAY LIFESTYLE.
DINE OR HOST A COMPANY HAPPY HOUR AT YOUR FAVORITE RESTAURANT.
GRAB YOUR MORNING COFFEE FROM A CAFE TO JUMPSTART YOUR DAY.
CATCH A MOVIE WITH FRIENDS OR FAMILY AFTER A LONG DAY AT WORK.
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EVEN YOUR FURRY FRIENDS. NOT ONLY ARE THE NORTH SHORE TRAIL AND BEAUTIFUL LAKE GRAPEVINE JUST STEPS AWAY, BUT AT SUNSET POINT YOU CAN WIND DOWN WITH A YOGA CLASS OR ENJOY A STUNNING SUNSET VIEW TO END YOUR DAY.AND THERE'S MORE TO COME IN THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE.
ANOTHER LUXURY TOWERS JUST AROUND THE CORNER.
BREATHTAKING VIEWS OF LAKE GRAPEVINE.
YOU'LL ENJOY PICTURESQUE SCENERY AND EVENTS LIKE NEVER BEFORE.
COME AND EXPERIENCE LAKESIDE FOR COMMUNITY COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE.
CONVERGE AND BRING YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY ENJOY A LUXURIOUS NIGHT.
STAY AT THE UPCOMING MARRIOTT AUTOGRAPH COLLECTION HOTEL.
TAKE IN THE PICTURESQUE VIEWS FROM THE CLASS AA OFFICE BUILDING.
UNWIND WITH A NATURE WALK ON THE BLUFF TRAIL.
AT EDEN-ROC LAKESIDE, ITS PRIVATE SOCIAL CLUB WITH AN OUTDOOR TERRACE OVERLOOKING THE LAKE.
LAKESIDE IS A PLACE PEOPLE LOVE AND A PLACE PEOPLE LOVE IS GROWING AGAIN.
ACROSS FM 2499, IT'S A ONCE IN A LIFETIME CHANCE TO TRANSFORM ALL FOUR CORNERS OF 2499 AT LAKESIDE PARKWAY INTO A COHESIVE, THE THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED ENCLAVE BY THE SAME VISIONARY PLANNER AND DEVELOPER.
IT'S A PLACE THAT NOT ONLY PLEASES THE SENSES, BUT ALSO SERVES AS A FUNCTIONAL AND ENJOYABLE SPACE TO ENHANCE EVERY FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS QUALITY OF LIFE. FILLED WITH GENEROUS OPEN SPACES, PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY SIDEWALKS, ACTIVITY PLAZAS AND RESIDENCES, DINING OPTIONS WITH OUTDOOR PATIOS, RETAIL OPPORTUNITIES, INSTAGRAMMABLE MOMENTS, A HOTEL OFFICE BUILDING AND AN ADDITIONAL MUSIC SERIES VENUE, LAKESIDE EAST SERVES AS AN EXTENSION OF LAKESIDE ACROSS THE STREET THAT EVERYONE CAN ENJOY. THERE'S NOTHING ELSE LIKE THIS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA.
THE QUESTION IS, WILL YOU BE PART OF MAKING THIS LEGACY A REALITY? YOUR OPPORTUNITY AWAITS. GET INVOLVED AND JOIN TODAY IN THE MAKING OF HISTORY AND HELP GROW A PLACE PEOPLE LOVE.
AND THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ASK BEFORE I OPEN THIS? I'D JUST LIKE TO WAIT TILL AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, I THINK.
OKAY. Y'ALL READY? OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE HAVE, LIKE, 23 PEOPLE TO SPEAK. SO I AM GOING TO REITERATE WE DO HAVE THREE MINUTES.
I DO NOT WANT YOU TO GO BEYOND THE THREE MINUTES.
BUT KEEP IN MIND AT 30 WHEN YOU HAVE 30S REMAINING, YOU'LL HEAR A BEEP.
YOU STILL HAVE THE 30S. SO THE SECOND BEEP, YOU'LL BE YOU'LL BE DONE HAVING VISION PROBLEMS TONIGHT.
SO BEAR WITH ME. I DID I DID PROMISE THAT JOHN FREETH COULD GO FIRST.
MAYOR, IF I MAY, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR FOUR AND FIVE FOR THE PURPOSE? OH, YEAH. YEAH. I THOUGHT I SAID THAT, BUT YEAH. WE ARE OPENING PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM K FOUR AND FIVE.
YES. MY NAME IS JOHN DAVID FRITH. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING EARLIER.
I OWN THE PROPERTY DIRECTLY SOUTH OF OF THIS PROPERTY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
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AND AT 870 INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY, IT'S KIND OF RIGHT BEHIND THE NEW LOS CAMINOS RESTAURANT.I STARTED BUYING PROPERTY ALONG 24.99, PROBABLY 12 OR 15 YEARS AGO.
AND AS THEY STARTED BUILDING THAT, I WAS LIKE, MAN, THAT THAT'S A REALLY GOOD IDEA.
I WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT.
SO I PROBABLY PURCHASED THIS BUILDING ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
ONE OF MY QUESTIONS TO REALTY CAPITAL WAS, WHAT'S GOING TO GO OVER THERE ON THAT ADJACENT LAND? AT THAT TIME, WE DID THINK IT WAS PROBABLY GOING TO BE A GROCER.
THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT. BUT THEN WHEN THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT AND I THOUGHT, WELL, WHAT COULD GO HERE NOW? AND THAT'S AUTO CAR WASHES, THAT'S A RETAIL STRIP CENTERS, THAT'S FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS.
AND THAT KIND OF SCARED ME TO DEATH. TO ME, THIS THIS PROJECT THAT, THAT, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS IS ABOUT AS GOOD AS I COULD ENVISION TO HAVE A NEIGHBOR NEXT TO ME. I KNOW EVERYTHING IN LAKESIDE DRAWS FIRST CLASS PEOPLE.
I THINK THIS IS THIS COULD BE JUST AN EXTENSION OF THAT.
I THINK IT COULD HELP MY PROPERTY OR KEEP AT LEAST KEEP MY PROPERTY VALUES WHERE THEY ARE.
KEEP ME PAYING THE TAXES TO FLOWER MOUND. WE'RE AT THE LEVEL THEY'RE AT NOW.
I THINK I THINK THEY'LL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS. AND I HOPE YOU APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE CLAYTON FLEURY, AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE JAKE SHERRINGTON.
THANKS FOR LETTING ME GO. SECOND, I GUESS YOU'RE WELCOME IN THE WHOEVER IS VOTING FOR CHICKEN SALAD CHICK, THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY NEVER HAD FLURRIES. CHICKEN SALAD.
MY WIFE AND I MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND 11 YEARS AGO, AND THIS PROJECT IS ACTUALLY IN MY BACKYARD, I COULD SEE MY HOUSE ON ALMOST EVERY ONE OF THOSE AERIAL FOOT PHOTOS.
WE ALMOST DIDN'T GET THAT THING OPEN BECAUSE OF ZONING.
COME TO FIND OUT, SOMEONE, SOMEONE AT THE TOWN LEVEL SAID NO, THAT'S MERCANTILE.
NO. WE FINALLY WE FINALLY FLUSHED IT OUT. AND TODAY WE HAVE AN AMAZING BUSINESS.
AN AMAZING BUSINESS THAT EMPLOYS OVER 40 PEOPLE AT ANY GIVEN TIME.
WE SUPPORT THIS COMMUNITY. AND IT'S BEEN SO SUCCESSFUL. WE'VE EXPANDED INTO LAKESIDE.
I SAY SAFE. THESE FACEBOOK GROUPS AND ANYTHING THAT HAS THE A WORD APARTMENTS.
IT'S BAD, IT'S BAD. AND I REALLY THINK THAT THAT'S KIND OF THE CRUX OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
WHY THERE'S PEOPLE SO OR PEOPLE THAT AREN'T FOR THIS ARE KIND OF LIKE, OOH, APARTMENTS.
WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, I LIVE IN THIS TOWN. I NOW OWN TWO BUSINESSES WITH MY WIFE.
WHEN THE STORE IS QUIET, I CAN HEAR THE TOILETS FLUSHING ABOVE ME.
TOO MUCH. TOO MUCH INFORMATION, I KNOW, BUT I MAKE SANDWICHES PERSONALLY FOR THESE PEOPLE.
I GET TO KNOW THEIR DOGS. I GET TO KNOW THEIR THEIR CHILDREN ON A ROUTINE BASIS.
WHAT'S MY POINT? IT IS INSTRUMENTAL FOR MY BUSINESS IN LAKESIDE TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT.
INSTRUMENTAL. THE MAIN STORE WE OWN JUST FURTHER NORTH, JUST JUST JUST NORTH OF THIS PROJECT.
ALSO INSTRUMENTAL TO HAVE THE RESIDENTIAL AROUND US.
AND SO I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. I AM ABSOLUTELY IMPRESSED WITH WHAT JIMMY AND HIS TEAM HAS PULLED OFF.
I USED TO NEGOTIATE CONTRACTS AND TO GET BLACKROCK AND AVALON, AND THOSE FOLKS ARE VERY IMPRESSIVE.
THEY'RE NOT BRINGING ANYTHING NEW THAT HASN'T ALREADY BEEN IMPROVED.
I DO UNFORTUNATELY HATE THAT THIS TOWN HAS CAUSED THIS TO HIM TO GO GET CREATIVE.
SO IN WHICH DAN CAN GIVE OFF THIS APPEARANCE OF SMOKE AND MIRRORS AND HE'S MOVING.
MOVING NUMBERS AROUND TO GET THIS THING BY. NO, IT'S JUST HE KNOWS HOW HE HE KNOWS.
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HE KNOWS THE TEMPERATURE OF THIS TOWN IN APARTMENT BAD.WELL, I CAN TELL YOU. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S A GREAT THING FOR THIS TOWN.
I SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.
SO YOU'RE READY TO GO AFTER HIM? IT'S GOING TO BE STEPHEN WOOD.
AND I'M HERE JUST TO HELP EDUCATE ON THE RETAIL MARKET BOTH HERE IN FLOWER MOUND AND IN DFW.
WE'VE HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO LEASE HIGH PROFILE ASSETS AT THE CRESCENT.
THE FRESH BY BROOKSHIRE'S AND FATE. SO WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO SEE WHAT THESE TENANTS ARE LOOKING FOR AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS LOOKING FOR. I MEAN, I THINK REALLY WITH ANY PROJECT WE HANDLE, WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COMMUNITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE ALL TALKED ABOUT.
AND THAT REALLY EXPANDS TO THE SERVICE CATEGORY AS WELL.
CONCEPTS SUCH AS LA LA LAND, HUDSON HOUSE, FLOWER CHILD, SOLID CORE, ETC..
I THINK THAT THAT LIST IS NO DISSIMILAR TO EVERY OTHER CITY IN DFW.
IF EVERYONE MADE A TOP 100 LIST, IT'D ALL BE THE SAME.
BUT I THINK THAT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO FIGURE OUT IS WHAT THEY'RE WANTING TO LAND.
AND IF WE CAN'T GET THAT TIER ONE TENANT, IS THERE SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THAT TENANT THAT WE CAN EXPLORE? SO I THINK THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS REALISTIC? CAN WE GET THESE TYPES OF OPERATORS AT THE PROJECT? THE SHORT OF IT IS THAT THE PLAN THAT REALTY CAPITAL HAS OUTLINED HAS GOTTEN THE ATTENTION OF THESE HIGH PROFILE USERS BECAUSE OF THE RENDERINGS THAT THEY'RE SINGLE STORIES, THE ACCESS VISIBILITY PATIOS AND THE REALITY IS THAT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE BROKERS AND TENANTS ARE THAT TRADITIONAL RETAIL STRIPS AND PADS WILL NOT.
IN THE MEETING A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, WAS ASKED TO THE BOARD WHEN WE WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT YOU ALL WENT TO LAKESIDE? THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT QUESTION, THOUGH. THE QUESTION SHOULD BE DO FULL SERVICE, UNIQUE RESTAURANT OPTIONS.
PERFORM WELL AT LAKESIDE. THE ANSWER IS YES. 1845 THE TAVERN, LOS CAMINOS AND OTHERS DO EXTREMELY WELL, AND YOU REALLY CAN'T ARGUE WITH SALES. EVEN MORE IMPRESSIVE IS THAT THESE RESTAURANTS ARE BENEATH MULTIFAMILY, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY EXTREMELY HARD TO LEASE.
YOU LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PLANO, WEST DALLAS, FRISCO.
I MEAN, THESE PROJECTS HAVE SAT VACANT FOR EIGHT YEARS.
SO YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WHAT YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IS YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT TO HOW DO WE WANT TO PUT FLOWER MOUND ON THE MAP FROM A RESTAURANT AND A RETAIL FOCAL POINT? WHAT WILL KEEP PEOPLE IN FLOWER MOUND RATHER THAN GOING TO OTHER CITIES? WHAT'S AN ENVIRONMENT THAT YOU WANT TO BRING YOUR FAMILY INTO? WHAT'S AN 18 HOUR SHOPPING CENTER WHERE YOU CAN HAVE THINGS THAT OPEN AT 6 A.M.
AND CLOSE AT MIDNIGHT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S JACK IN THE BOX.
KFC, NAIL SALONS AND DENTAL CLINICS, ALTHOUGH THERE'S A PLACE FOR THOSE.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S ACROSS FROM LAKESIDE. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY, AFTER STEVEN WOOD, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE PATRICIA HAYDEN.
STEVEN WOOD 3032 MONET COURT. I WAS HERE AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETING.
LASTED UNTIL ABOUT 3:20 A.M.. IT WAS REALLY FUNNY WHEN ONE OF THE PARTICIPANTS GOT UP TO THE PODIUM HERE, AND ONE OF THE ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS SAID, HEY, I REMEMBER YOU FROM YESTERDAY BECAUSE HE'D BEEN HERE.
AND IT WAS A VERY LONG NIGHT. AND I GOT UP AT THE END AND I, I SPOKE OUT AGAINST THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT MORE APARTMENTS AND WITH THE, WITH THE SHELL GAME THEY'RE PLAYING OF TAKING SOME FROM ONE SIDE AND PUTTING THEM ON THE OTHER AND HOPING NOTHING GETS LOST IN THE TRANSITION. YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RIGHT A WRONG OF PREVIOUS COUNCILS.
THE THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU WERE ELECTED, YOU HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY BEFORE YOU NOW.
PLANNING AND ZONING TOOK THAT OPPORTUNITY. THEY DENIED THIS 42 SOMETHING THAT WASN'T IN ANY OF THE PRIOR PRESENTATIONS WE'VE HEARD TONIGHT, INCLUDING CITY STAFF'S. THINKING THAT ONE IN FOR A MINUTE. SO NO, I DO NOT WANT THIS. IT HAS THE CAPABILITY OF
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ANOTHER TWO POOR INTERSECTIONS BLOCKING TRAFFIC IN AND OUT OF FLOWER MOUND FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WORK OUT OF TOWN, WHO IS ALMOST EVERYONE. NOW WE WANT TO MOVE IT ACROSS THE STREET TO AND HAVE CROSSWALKS AND PEOPLE AND LONGER TIMES FOR THESE LIGHTS. THIS ISN'T REALLY A GOOD IDEA, EVEN THOUGH IT DOES HAVE THE 29 GLOSSY COLOR PHOTOGRAPHS WITH THE LINES AND ARROWS AND CIRCLES AND A LITTLE PARAGRAPH ON THE BACK SAYING WHAT EACH ONE IS FOR. WE ALL KNOW THAT STORY TOO, AND I DON'T THINK YOU'RE FOOLED BY ANY OF THIS. IT IS APARTMENTS. THAT IS ALL IT IS.THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO WE HAVE PATRICIA HAYDEN, AND THEN AFTER THAT, JOHN MASSEY.
GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL AND MAYOR. MY NAME IS PATRICIA HAYDEN, 5309 HEATHER COURT.
WE HAYDEN'S HAVE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND FOR 37 YEARS SINCE 1988.
I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT.
MY HUSBAND AND I CHOSE THIS TOWN, LIKE MANY OF YOU HAVE FOR THE SMALL TOWN.
FEEL THE TREES, THE LAKES, GREAT SCHOOLS, GREAT PEOPLE, EASY ACCESS TO DFW.
A LOT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN. FLOWER MOUND IS NOW NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED AS AN AWARD WINNING TOWN.
RESIDENTS FROM ALL OVER THE METROPLEX, PARTICULARLY SOUTHLAKE, COME TO FLOWER MOUND.
WHY? I CAN SAY WITH CERTAINTY THEY COME REGULARLY AND FROM FAR AND WIDE TO ONE COMMUNITY IN OUR TOWN, AND THAT COMMUNITY IS LAKESIDE. LAKESIDE HAS BECOME THE SORELY NEEDED, MODERN, FUTURE FOCUSED SOUTHERN GATEWAY TO FLOWER MOUND. IT'S A LIVE WORK PLAY PART OF TOWN THAT EVERYONE LOVES AND PEOPLE HAVE HEARD OF ALL OVER THE METROPLEX. LAKESIDE STANDS OUT AS A SHINING EXAMPLE IN MY VIEW OF QUALITY, COMMUNITY FOCUSED DEVELOPMENT. REALTY CAPITAL HAS WORKED TIRELESSLY, BENT OVER BACKWARDS.
COMMUNITY OUTREACH. GET INFORMATION. WHAT DOES THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND WANT? I'VE BEEN HERE 37 YEARS. NOBODY'S DONE THAT. REALTY CAPITAL DOES.
LAKESIDE, FOR ME, STANDS OUT AS THIS SHINING EXAMPLE, AND LAKES AND REALTY CAPITAL IS REQUESTING NOTHING MORE THAN TO EXPAND THIS POPULAR WINNING CONCEPT ON THE SMALL STRIP OF LAND ACROSS THE STREET KNOWN AS LAKESIDE EAST.
LAKESIDE EAST, LIKE THE ORIGINAL LAKESIDE, WILL REPRESENT THE BEST OF MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT WHERE BOTH RESIDENTS AND THOSE FROM SURROUNDING AREAS ARE ABLE TO ENJOY GREAT RESTAURANTS.
RENT A LOVELY APARTMENT IF THEY IF THEY WOULD LIKE QUALITY ENTERTAINMENT, QUALITY HOTEL, WALKABLE OPEN SPACE AND THE NOW FAMOUS AND JOYOUS CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY FESTIVAL, WHICH IS LARGELY SELF-FUNDED.
THEREFORE, I SPEAK TO YOU SOLIDLY IN FAVOR OF THE EXPANSION OF LAKESIDE EAST.
IF THIS EXPANSION IS NOT APPROVED AS DESIGNED, WHAT DO WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO? ANOTHER C2 STRUCTURE WITH A NAIL SALON, A DRY CLEANER IN A DONUT SHOP.
I HAVE TO SAY, FLOWER MOUND IS ALREADY FILLED WITH THESE STRIP CENTERS.
WE CAN DO MUCH BETTER. AND WE MUST. IT CAN START NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE JOHN MASSEY, AND THEN Y'ALL NEED TO TAKE A BREAK.
Y'ALL GET A BREAK. DO Y'ALL NEED A BREAK? ARE Y'ALL GOOD? OKAY. AND THEN AFTER AFTER, JOHN WILL HAVE BRAD HALL.
OH, YOU CAN GO AHEAD. SORRY. HI, EVERYBODY. MY NAME IS JOHN MOSS.
I'M ALSO A RETAIL REAL ESTATE BROKER AT SHOP COMPANIES, ALONG WITH JAKE THERE.
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ACTIVE TENANTS LOOKING FOR SITES ALL AROUND DFW.FOR MOST OF THOSE WHICH ARE RESTAURANTS AND A LOT OF THOSE THAT ARE ELEVATED FULL SERVICE RESTAURANTS, FLOWER MOUND IS A HUGE TARGET FOR THEM. THEY ALL WANT TO BE HERE.
IT'S A GREAT TRADE AREA. IT'S A CAPTURED AUDIENCE, GREAT DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL OF THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THERE HASN'T REALLY BEEN A GREAT OPTION FOR A HOME FOR REALLY ANY OF THEM.
WE WERE EXCEEDINGLY EXCITED TO SEE THE PLANS FOR LAKESIDE EAST.
IT HAD BEEN AN OPTION TO GET THEM ALL HERE. WE'VE ALL BEEN WANTING IT.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO SUPPORT THAT TODAY.
THE REASON WHY WE ALL WANT TO BE HERE AT THIS INTERSECTION IS BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU THE BROADEST TRADE AREA, BEING AT THE GATEWAY TO FLOWER MOUND, BUT ALSO TO GIVE YOU THE ACCESS TO ALL OF THE DAYTIME POPULATION, AS WELL AS THE DENSITY OF THE OF THE APARTMENTS AROUND HERE.
SO THAT IS A HUGE ADVANTAGE THAT ALL OF THESE GREAT ELEVATED TENANTS WANT TO BE AROUND.
IF WE IF THAT WASN'T SO IMPORTANT, WE WOULD ALREADY HAVE HOMES AT 407 OR 1171.
SO WANTED TO GIVE THAT PERSPECTIVE. I THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THAT LIST OF OF TENANTS THAT WANT TO BE HERE IS THOSE, THOSE APARTMENTS. AND SO TO HAVE TROUBLE WITH THIS PROJECT FOR THAT, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE SEEMS A LITTLE BIT ODD IN THAT THAT IS HOW YOU CAPTURE THESE THESE GROUPS THAT YOU WOULD LOVE TO HAVE IN YOUR TOWN.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE IN VERY STRONG SUPPORT. IF THIS IF THIS PROJECT GETS APPROVED, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME REALLY, REALLY GREAT DINING OPTIONS HERE THAT OTHERWISE YOUR RESIDENTS WOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO.
SO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HERE WE HAVE BRAD HALL, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE TIM WIESNER.
HELLO, COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR THIS HEARING. MY NAME IS BRAD HALL.
I LIVE AT 2409 WEST VILLAGE PARKWAY IN FLOWER MOUND LAKESIDE.
AND I'VE BEEN RUNNING ON THE TRAILS AND AND MOUNTAIN BIKING ON THE TRAILS FOR 20 YEARS.
WELL, LONG STORY SHORT IS WE RAISED FOUR CHILDREN.
OUR LAST ONE'S TWINS GRADUATED FROM HIGH SCHOOL AND WE BECAME EMPTY NESTERS.
AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU THAT I'M PROBABLY ONE OF THE NUMBER ONE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE US.
EMPTY NESTER. SOMEWHAT AFFLUENT. CAN AT LEAST AFFORD TO MOVE.
WE ARE LUCKY ENOUGH TO TO SELL OUR HOUSE. AND WE SHOPPED THE ENTIRE METROPLEX.
WE COULD HAVE MOVED ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY. WE COULD HAVE MOVED ANYWHERE IN THE METROPLEX.
AND WE LOVE TEXAS. MY BUSINESS IS HERE. WE WANT TO STAY HERE.
AND WE FOUND LAKESIDE. AND WE BOUGHT A PATCH OF DIRT BECAUSE WE KNEW WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT.
WE COULD SEE THE VISION OF THIS BEAUTIFUL, WALKABLE SPACE WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TO GET IN THE CAR.
AND AND GETTING ON THE BIKES, THE GARAGE, IN THE CAR.
AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT APARTMENTS IS WE OWN ONE OF THE VILLAS.
WE WERE THE WE WERE THE SECOND PERSON TO MOVE INTO A VILLA RIGHT DOWN IN WHERE IT USED TO BE DIRT, NEXT TO THE CONDO TOWER. AND WE LOVE THE FACT THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING AROUND.
THAT'S THE VIBRANCE. THEIR DOGS, THE THE PEOPLE THAT WE'VE MET HAVE JUST BEEN INCREDIBLE.
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AND AND WE WE EMBRACE THAT. WE'RE EXCITED FOR THAT BECAUSE THAT'S MORE PEOPLE WALKING, BUILDING THIS COMMUNITY, BRINGING IN BUSINESS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT IT.I HOPE YOU ALL ARE TOO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
OKAY. TIM WAS NOT. AND THEN LORRAINE SRI IS NEXT.
TIM. EXCUSE ME. TIM WILSON AT 2300 OLYMPIA. I STAND OPPOSED TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT SHOULDN'T SURPRISE Y'ALL, BECAUSE I'VE OPPOSED OTHER HIGH DENSITY ITEMS IN THIS AREA WHEN COUNCIL DENIED THE RACETRACK.
SO WHEN YOU LAYER THIS ON TOP OF THAT JUST GETTING ACROSS THE ROAD 24.99.
I'M AFRAID THIS GUY NEEDS RUNNING SHOES TO GET HIS DOGS ACROSS THAT ROAD.
IT'S SO BUSY. AND THE APARTMENTS, WE JUST DON'T NEED THEM.
AND IT'S A SHELL GAME THAT THEY'RE PLAYING WITH THESE ENTITLEMENTS.
WE KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND JIMMY DOES A GOOD JOB.
HE DOES A QUALITY PRODUCT. I APPRECIATE SOME OF THE HONESTY THAT HE HAD.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE LORRAINE SHERRY. AND THEN NEXT WE'LL HAVE JUDITH HENKELS.
HELLO. MY NAME IS LORRAINE SHERRY AND I LIVE AT 2770 LAKESIDE PARKWAY, APARTMENT 4716.
AND I'M HERE THIS EVENING TO HAVE A VOICE IN SUPPORT OF APARTMENT LIVING BEING SOMEONE THAT HAS LIVED IN APARTMENT COMMUNITIES FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. AND BY CHOICE, THAT IS. AND THE LIFESTYLE OF AN APARTMENT LIVING FOR ME AS A SINGLE MOM, RAISING MY CHILDREN, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A COMMUNITY, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE SECURITY, HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN A PLACE WHERE I CAN CALL HOME EVEN IF IT'S AN APARTMENT.
AND THAT IS MY CHOICE TO LIVE IN AN APARTMENT.
HAVING THE THOUGHT OF HAVING BECAUSE I LIVE RIGHT ON LAKESIDE, RIGHT? SO MORE COMMUNITY APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET JUST GIVES PEOPLE LIKE MYSELF AN OPPORTUNITY TO RENT.
STILL LIVE IN A WONDERFUL AREA. ALLOW YOUR CHILDREN TO GO TO GOOD SCHOOLS AS WELL.
ME, MYSELF. I'M A HARD WORKING PERSON THAT ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMMUNITY.
I WORK IN THE FITNESS INDUSTRY OF WORKING AT MULTIPLE APARTMENT COMPLEXES THROUGHOUT THE DFW AREA, AND I PROVIDE A SERVICE WITHIN THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AS AN INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR TO ALL OF THE APARTMENT COMPLEXES I LIVE IN AND PROVIDE CLASSES TO THE RESIDENTS. AND SO THAT IS OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, JUST AN OPTION AND ARE ARE SO WONDERFUL. WHEN YOU DO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY LIKE THAT, THAT THERE'S AMENITIES THAT GO ALONG WITH IT.
AND AS A SINGLE WOMAN LIKE MYSELF, I LIVE IN THE APARTMENT.
AND IF MY AIR CONDITIONING GOES OUT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CAN JUST CALL THE MAINTENANCE.
AND THERE WE GO. I HAVE THAT LUXURY AND THAT.
AND I CHOOSE THAT, BY THE WAY. AND I WANT CHOICE TO BE.
THE BIGGEST WORD HERE IS I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY OF RENTING AN APARTMENT, WHICH I LOVE, AND I'VE DONE IT FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS. SO I FULLY SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF SOMETHING SO WONDERFUL THAT I'VE ALREADY EXPERIENCED.
SO, AND I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT THE IDEA THAT APARTMENTS SOMEHOW DON'T BELONG IN ESTABLISHED SUBURBAN AREAS IS NOT ONLY OFFENSIVE TO ME, BUT IT'S JUST PLAIN WRONG. I BELONG TO BE HERE AS AN APARTMENT RENTER AS AS WELL AS SOMEONE THAT OWNS A HOME.
SO PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. LOOK AT PEOPLE LIKE ME.
HARD WORKING PEOPLE THAT ALSO WANT TO ENJOY LOVELY COMMUNITIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'LL HAVE JUDITH HENKELS AND THEN CATHERINE HALL.
YES. MY NAME IS JUDITH HENKELS. I LIVE AT 2850 LAKESIDE PARKWAY, OBVIOUSLY IN LAKESIDE.
I'VE LIVED IN TWO DIFFERENT HOMES NOW IN LAKESIDE, BOTH IN EXCESS OF $1 MILLION.
MY HUSBAND AND I REALLY ENJOY THE WALKABILITY OF THE AREA.
THAT'S REALLY KEY TO US. AND ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE BOUGHT INTO LAKESIDE.
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WE HAVE A REALLY NICE MIXTURE OF APARTMENTS, CONDOS, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, AS WELL AS RETAIL, UPSCALE RESTAURANTS, BUSINESSES, ETC. AND IT'S REALLY A TRUE URBAN AREA.IN MANY WAYS IT FEELS LIKE LIVING IN YOUR OWN LITTLE SMALL TOWN.
IT IS A NICE MIX OF PEOPLE AND PROPERTIES AND IT WORKS WELL.
LAKESIDE EAST, AS DESCRIBED BY THE DEVELOPER, WOULD EXPAND THE ATTRACTIVENESS OF THE AREA NOT ONLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE, BUT ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE CURRENTLY IN LAKESIDE.
WHAT WE WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE IS A STRIP CENTER ACROSS THE STREET FROM US WITH FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS, AUTO REPAIR SHOPS. ET CETERA, ET CETERA. WE'VE HEARD ABOUT THE NAIL SALONS AND ALL THAT.
WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY QUALITY THAT WE CAN FEEL PROUD OF IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
KEEPING THIS AS AN UPSCALE AREA WOULD ALSO HELP MAINTAIN OUR HOME VALUES.
AND THAT MIGHT, I MIGHT ADD, ALSO HELPS KEEP OUR TAXES HIGH, WHICH WE DON'T ENJOY PAYING.
BUT WE DO PAY FOR THE LUXURY OF LIVING IN FLOWER MOUND IN THIS AREA.
WE HAVE APARTMENT BUILDINGS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM US, AND WE HAVE NO WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS INTERMINGLING OF SINGLE FAMILY AND APARTMENT HOMES IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE LOVE TO JUST WALK AND SEE ALL THE PEOPLE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN AN APARTMENT OR A AN OWNED HOUSE OR CONDO.
AND I'VE LIVED ON THE EAST COAST AND THE WEST COAST AND THE MIDWEST.
THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE CATHERINE HALL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE SCOTT LANGLEY.
CATHERINE. CATHERINE. CATHERINE. CATHERINE. CATHERINE.
NO, I SAID CATHERINE. CATHERINE. HALL AND THEN SCOTT LANGLEY.
HELLO. MY NAME IS CATHERINE HALL, AND I LIVE AT 2409 WEST VILLAGE PARKWAY IN LAKESIDE.
IT WORKS. IT HAS A REALLY GREAT FEEL. IT FEELS AUTHENTIC, WHICH YOU GET FROM I THINK HAVING THE THE RESIDENCES IN THIS CASE, HE'S ASKING FOR APARTMENTS IN THE TOWNHOMES.
AND THOSE ADD TO THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE COMMUNITY IN LAKESIDE.
AND SO ALLOWING THOSE TO BE ACROSS IS GOING TO, TO ENHANCE THAT AREA.
I DO NOT FEEL THAT THAT THE DENSITY IS GOING TO BE A DRAWBACK AT ALL.
IT'S IT'S A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY OUT THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE SCOTT LANGLEY AND THEN WE'LL HAVE PETER STEWART.
SCOTT LANGLEY, 800 CARTER COURT. I JUST CAN'T STAND AROUND.
WHAT IS IT? SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE OR WHATEVER IT IS.
BUT I THINK WE NEED MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES IN THIS TOWN.
WE NEED MORE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW FAMILIES, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO OWN.
AND I'M NOT SEEING THAT HERE. AND I'VE HEARD THE REASONS WHY AND I'M NOT BUYING IT.
OTHER TOWNS, CITIES, THEY CAN YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HAVE CONDOS.
I DON'T BUY IT. I DON'T THINK YOU SHOULD EITHER.
SO REJECT THIS MPA. AND TO PEOPLE OUT THERE, YOU LIVE IN APARTMENTS.
I'VE LIVED IN AN APARTMENT PROBABLY A THIRD OF MY LIFE.
THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. WE WELCOME YOU HERE.
YOU. YOU GO OUT TO EAT, YOU SPEND YOUR MONEY IN RETAIL.
WE LOVE THAT. WE LOVE TO HAVE YOU HERE. AND NOBODY'S DISPARAGING YOU FOR THAT.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE'LL HAVE PETER STUART AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MICHAEL KIRBY.
MY NAME IS PETER STUART. 2800 LAKESIDE PARKWAY, UNIT 1103.
I'M SPEAKING IN SUPPORT FOR THE QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT JIMMY'S BROUGHT TO YOU.
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I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF THE GENERAL PARTNER OF LAKESIDE DFW AND THE LAKESIDE VILLAGE PARTNERS.I LIVE IN A MULTIFAMILY BUILDING, AND IT'S ADJACENT TO OTHER MULTIFAMILY BUILDINGS IN LAKESIDE, IN THE COMMUNITY OF LAKESIDE. MY NEIGHBORS ARE SINGLE FAMILY HOMEOWNERS, CONDO APARTMENT DWELLERS, RETAILERS, AND TRAILER PARK RESIDENTS. WE ALL LIVE IN LAKESIDE BECAUSE WE LOVE BEING ABLE TO WALK TO 14 RESTAURANTS, DINE IN MOVIE THEATER, THE NORTH SHORE TRAIL.
LAKE. GRAPEVINE. THE BOARDWALK. SUNSET. DOG. PARKS AND RETAILERS.
THE OPPOSITION WOULD DESCRIBE OUR HIGH DENSITY, THE HIGHEST IN FLOWER MOUND NEIGHBORHOOD, AS BEING COVERED IN BAD THINGS. WHAT IT'S COVERED IN IS VALUE.
WHAT VALUE? LAKESIDE DFW 114 ACRES IS WORTH $1 BILLION.
TAX VALUE. THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS 28,000 ACRES.
IS WORTH $14 BILLION. ONE ACRE OF LAND IN FLOWER MOUND IS WORTH US 175 TIMES WHAT AN AVERAGE ACRE IS.
THAT'S JUST MATH. THAT'S ON YOUR TAX ROLLS. THAT'S OUR OUR THAT'S WHAT WE DO.
AS A RESULT. WHY IS THAT. AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A WALKABLE, FUN PLACE TO LIVE.
PEOPLE PAY THE HIGHEST RENTS, THE HIGHEST DOLLARS PER SQUARE FOOT, AND THEY LOVE IT.
I CHALLENGE ANY ONE OF YOU AT ANY TIME TO GO TO THE DOG PARK, GO TO THE BOARDWALK, ASK SOMEBODY IF THEY LIVE IN LAKESIDE OR WHY THEY'RE HERE, AND THEY WILL TAKE 25 30 MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TELLING YOU HOW MUCH THEY LOVE IT.
JIMMY'S PROJECT IS CONTROLLED BY THE 107 PAGE ZONING AGREEMENT THAT LAKESIDE PUT ON ITSELF TO DEMAND HIGH QUALITY VALUE. THAT'S THAT'S BEEN PRODUCED. HE'S BROUGHT THAT TO THIS.
THEY ADDED TO IT BECAUSE THEY SAW A MODEL THAT WORKED AND THEY ADDED TO IT.
AND I ASSUME YOU WILL TOO. THANK YOU SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP.
MICHAEL KIRBY, ARE YOU HERE? NO. OKAY. THEN I HAVE A NON-SPEAKING CARD, AND WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO SANDRA LUDWIG. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS SANDRA LUDWIG. I'M HERE WITH MY HUSBAND THIS EVENING, LEN LUDWIG.
WE ARE AT 2621 SEDONA STREET IN LAKESIDE. WE HAVE LIVED IN LAKESIDE EXACTLY TEN YEARS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH. WE WERE THE VERY FIRST ONES TO BUILD IN PHASE TWO, SO WE SAW EVERYTHING BEING BUILT. EVERYTHING EXCEPT FOR THE VERY FIRST PHASE, OF COURSE.
WE AS HOMEOWNERS STARTED SEEING THESE BUILDINGS AND WE MOVED TO LAKESIDE FOR THAT DREAM THAT JIMMY, ARCHIE AND PETER STEWART HAD FOR LAKESIDE.
THAT BROUGHT US HERE. WE MOVED OUT OF TROPHY CLUB AREA, MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND FOR LAKESIDE.
SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE TEN YEARS, WE HAVE SEEN ALL THE STRUGGLES AND THERE IS NO WAY THAT LAKESIDE WOULD HAVE SUCCEEDED WITHOUT THOSE APARTMENTS, THEY DID NOT HAVE THE DENSITY FOR THE RETAILERS.
THE RETAILERS WERE STRUGGLING FOR THOSE YEARS.
WE WERE LIKE, OH MAN, THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK. AND WE STARTED SEEING MORE AND MORE PEOPLE OCCUPY THE APARTMENTS.
THESE ARE NOT LOW END APARTMENTS. THESE ARE HIGH DOLLAR APARTMENTS.
GOOD QUALITY PEOPLE ARE COMING IN AND GOOD QUALITY PEOPLE WILL CONTINUE TO COME IN.
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IF LAKESIDE EAST IS APPROVED, AND I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, KNOWING PETER AND JIMMY, THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A LA QUINTA, I GUARANTEE YOU THEY DO PERFECTION AND IT MAKES FLOWER MOUND LOOK GOOD.ANYWAY. WE APPROVE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU.
ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE DAN NICKOLOFF. AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE SANDEEP SHARMA.
OH, YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING. SORRY. HELLO, EVERYBODY.
DAN NICKOLOFF HERE. RESIDENT FLOWER MOUND 840 DEER RUN.
ALSO A BUSINESS OWNER AT LAKESIDE. I JUST WANT TO KIND OF EXPRESS MY SUPPORT FOR THIS PROJECT.
WE'VE SEEN WHAT REALTY CAPITAL CAN DO FOR THE AREA.
AND THIS WAS ONE WE SAW THAT WAS GOING TO EXCEED IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
SO WITH WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING ACROSS THE STREET, WE COULDN'T BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
THE LIVE WORK PLAY CONCEPT BRINGS REAL VIBRANCY TO THE AREA, AS PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT ALL NIGHT.
SO THIS WOULD JUST BE AN EXTENSION OF THAT. IT GIVES THE PEOPLE TO BE THERE, A REASON TO BE THERE THROUGHOUT THE DAY AND THROUGHOUT THE WEEK. IT CREATES A SENSE OF ENERGY. WITH THAT, ENERGY BECOMES EVEN A BETTER PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WANT TO TELL PEOPLE, COME SEE ME OVER AT LAKESIDE.
IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR YOUR KIDS, FOR YOUR FAMILY, AND THEN THEY COME MOVE IN THERE.
TALKED ABOUT APARTMENTS A LITTLE BIT. I ACTUALLY RENTED AN APARTMENT IN LAKESIDE WHILE I WAS BUILDING MY HOUSE IN FLOWER MOUND. I WAS SAD TO LEAVE THAT APARTMENT AND MOVE INTO MY HOUSE BECAUSE I LOVED THAT AREA SO MUCH. BUT I DO VISIT THERE QUITE FREQUENTLY TO MY OFFICE.
THE IMPORTANCE OF THE RESIDENTIAL. WE BELIEVE THAT RESIDENTIAL IS A HUGE, CRUCIAL COMPONENT.
WITHOUT IT, THE PROJECT BECOMES JUST ANOTHER STRIP CENTER WITH IT.
IT BECOMES A REAL COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT DIFFERENT. THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT EXCITING. AND AGAIN, EARLIER I TALKED ABOUT OUR CONFIDENCE IN REALTY CAPITAL.
AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING NOW IN LAKESIDE VILLAGE IS JUST REALLY EXCITED. SO I JUST WANTED TO VOICE MY SUPPORT. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE RAM CHEBROLU.
AND THEN KIM CAN BE VYDANI. I DON'T KNOW IF I'M PRONOUNCING THAT RIGHT.
THEY BUILT 3111 SUNSET BOULEVARD. AND IT'S AN APARTMENT AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT.
AND I MOVED FROM. I LOVE THE PLACE. I MOVED FROM A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR HOME TO A MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR CONDO TO A VERY EXPENSIVE APARTMENT. BUT THIS IS A GREAT PLACE AND I WOULD LOVE IF YOU APPROVE IT AND HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY FOR OTHERS.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO MENTION IS PETER.
THE DOG CARRIES A TENNIS BALL AND HE CARRIES A TRASH PICKER.
AND ONE DAY I ASKED HIM, WHY DO YOU DO THIS? HE SAID, I HAVE PRIDE IN THIS LAND.
SO WE HAVE GOOD STEWARDS OF THE LAND HERE. PLEASE APPROVE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY WE HAVE KEMBA OR KEMBA.
AND THEN WE HAVE KATIE. HI, MY NAME IS KAMBIZ MADANI.
I LIVE AT 208 NORTHWOOD DRIVE AND LAKESIDE. MY WIFE AND I, LIKE THE HALLS, ARE EMPTY NESTERS.
WE BOUGHT A TOWNHOME UP IN LAKESIDE ABOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, AND WE WERE THRILLED SO FAR WITH OUR DECISION AND HOW LAKESIDE HAS EVOLVED INTO WHAT IT IS TODAY. WE'VE BEEN WATCHING IT FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS WHILE LIVING IN COPPELL.
NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR. I USED TO RIDE MY BIKE AND WATCH LAKESIDE.
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KIND OF GROW AND WAS VERY INTRIGUED BY THE LOOK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE DIVERSITY OF THE COMMUNITY, THE RESTAURANTS, THE BUSINESSES ARE NEARBY AND WALKABLE.THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE WELL MAINTAINED. THEY ALL LOOK GOOD.
AND THIS ALL PLAYED A KEY ROLE, IN OUR DECISION TO MOVE TO LAKESIDE.
IN TERMS OF APARTMENTS OUR TOWNHOME HAPPENS TO BE RIGHT ACROSS A FOUR STORY TOWNHOME.
AND ALSO, THERE'S A NEARBY TRAILER HOME MOBILE HOME COMMUNITY NEXT DOOR.
OBVIOUSLY, WE KNEW ALL OF THAT GOING IN AND HAVE HAD NO ISSUES WITH IT.
IN FACT, IT'S BEEN A POSITIVE. IF ANYTHING, OUR EXPECTATIONS HAVE BEEN EXCEEDED IN TERMS OF WHAT COMPARABLE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN SELLING FOR IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO FROM AN INVESTMENT STANDPOINT, IT'S ALSO BEEN AN EXCELLENT DECISION WE'VE MADE.
WITH REGARDS TO LAKESIDE, IT'S IT'S SIMILAR. IT'S MORE OF THE SAME GOOD THING.
IT'S EXCITING AND IT'S PROMISING PROJECT FROM OUR STANDPOINT, ESPECIALLY WITH THE REALTY CAPITAL AND JIMMY AS A RESPONSIVE PARTNER AND WITH A PROVEN TRACK RECORD. I MEAN, HE'S PROVEN HIMSELF TO WHAT HE'S DONE WITH LAKESIDE.
IT IS FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT I WANT TO TAKE TIME TO COME HERE AND SHARE OUR STORY AND VOICE.
MY SUPPORT FOR LAKESIDE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE KATIE GROAT, AND THEN SEAN HAMILTON WILL BE NEXT.
KATIE GROAT, ONE SIX, FIVE DOUBLE OAKS DRIVE, DOUBLE OAK, TEXAS.
I WILL BE THE ONE COMMUTING THROUGH THIS AREA.
THERE ARE SEVERAL TACTICS I'VE OBSERVED TONIGHT THAT JUST BRING BACK MEMORIES FROM 20 1120 1314, WHENEVER THIS WAS ALL ORIGINALLY PUSHED THROUGH. NUMBER ONE WAS THOSE DISGUSTING FLIERS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED AMONG RESIDENTS DOOR TO DOOR SHOWING.
SHOWING DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD NEVER TAKE PLACE AT THIS POINT IN FLOWER MOUND.
IT'S INSULTING. THEY WERE SO DECEIVING. THEY WERE INSULTING.
NUMBER TWO. FLOWER MOUND WELCOMES RESIDENT APARTMENTS.
WE JUST APPROVED 6000. TWICE AS MANY AS DOUBLED THE AMOUNT AT 377 AND 1171.
THAT WAS ALL DONE AFTER. WAIT A MINUTE. THAT'S BEEN APPROVED.
WE DON'T NEED TO ADD ANY MORE TO IT. NUMBER THREE.
I CANNOT IMAGINE BEING A PARENT ALLOWING A CHILD TO WALK ACROSS 24.99 AT THAT INTERSECTION.
I JUST DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING. I DON'T SEE IT BECOMING AN ADDITION TO THIS AREA, BECAUSE UNLESS YOU BUILD AN OVERPASS, THAT'S GOING TO BE DANGEROUS. I'VE NOTICED ALL THE RESIDENTS ARE ALL THE PEOPLE SPEAKING IN FAVOR OF THE TONIGHT SHOW. JIMMY BY HIS FIRST NAME. THAT MAKES ME SAY I DON'T KNOW, JIMMY.
I JUST KNOW WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK FORWARD TO. IF THIS IS ALLOWED, PLEASE OPPOSE IT.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE SEAN HAMILTON, AND THEN WE WILL HAVE CYNTHIA COHEN.
SEAN HAMILTON. I HAVE A STORE ON LAKESIDE 2500.
I WAS HERE TO SPEAK TO, I GUESS, THE SOCIAL CLASS OF MY CUSTOMERS SLASH APARTMENT TENANTS.
WHERE I'M FROM, I'M FROM A REAL POOR TOWN IN OKLAHOMA, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY HEAR APARTMENTS.
THEY ALSO THINK OF WELFARE SECTION EIGHT DRUG DEALERS, THAT TYPE OF THING.
AND WE'RE WE'RE FAR FROM THAT. WE HAVE ATTORNEYS.
A LOT OF PILOTS ARE RESIDENTS OF THE APARTMENTS.
MY INSURANCE AGENT, SHE DID LEAVE LIVE ABOVE ME, AND THEY MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND.
IT'S IT'S ENERGETIC. NOW, MY MOTHER, I JUST MOVED HER DOWN IN NOVEMBER.
SHE LIVED ON 15 ACRES OF LAND IN A IN A TRIPLE WIDE MANUFACTURED HOME.
LAKESIDE. SAFER THAN THAT. AND 55 OVERTURE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE SAFEST PLACES EVER TO BE.
AND SHE LOVES IT. SHE TOOK HER A MINUTE TO GET USED TO THE THE PEOPLE UPSTAIRS, BUT SHE LOVES IT.
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AND WE LOVE LAKESIDE AS WELL. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU.WE HAVE CYNTHIA COHEN, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE MILES.
BLAH SOMETHING. BLAH. I CAN'T READ IT, SO. I'LL JUST CALL YOU MILES.
HI THERE. MY NAME IS CYNTHIA COWAN, AND I LIVE AT 704 ELMWOOD AND FLOWER MOUND.
I AM A 30 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND. I LIVE ONE BLOCK FROM THE LAKE AND LESS THAN A MILE FROM LAKESIDE, AND I HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH LAKESIDE TO GET TO MY HOUSE.
HOWEVER, DEVELOPERS BEGIN BUILDING AROUND ME YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
SO I SAW THE CREATION OF ALL THE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT NO RETAIL, NO WALKABLE AMENITIES.
SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THE LAKE AND THE BIKE TRAILS, BUT THAT WAS IT.
YOU HAD TO GO INTO GRAPEVINE, LOST, CLEANNESS OR DALLAS IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD MEAL.
I AM A 35 YEAR COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE OFFICE LEASING PROFESSIONAL.
I SPECIALIZE IN LEASING CLASS, A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENTS IN THE NORTH TEXAS MARKET.
MY EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN IN SOME OF THE HOTTEST MARKETS IN THE REGION, INCLUDING UPTOWN, VICTORY, LAS COLINAS AND FRISCO. MY PROFESSIONAL OPINION IS THAT LAKESIDE IS ONE OF THE BEST WALKABLE, MIXED USE COMMUNITIES THAT I HAVE SEEN IN DFW IN MY ENTIRE CAREER.
REALTY CAPITAL HAS DONE A FABULOUS JOB IN CREATING A COMMUNITY THAT IS STICKY, WHICH MEANS ONCE YOU COME INTO LAKESIDE, YOU EAT IT. LAKESIDE YOU SHOP IN LAKESIDE, YOU KEEP COMING BACK.
WHAT THAT MEANS FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND ARE DOLLARS COMING INTO OUR TOWN? THE COMBINATION OF SINGLE FAMILY, BROWNSTONE TYPE LIVING, MULTIFAMILY RETAIL, POCKET PARKS, COMMUNITY GATHERING AREAS ALONG WITH WIDE SIDEWALKS FOR WINDOW SHOPPING.
CROSSWALKS AND ROUNDABOUTS. THERE ARE CROSSWALKS THERE THAT LIGHT UP WHEN YOU WALK BY, AND YOU CAN CROSS 24.99 WITH THE CROSSING GUARD IN THE MORNING WITH THE LIGHTS AND THE CROSSWALKS. I'VE SEEN IT.
I'M AN EMPTY NESTER. I RAISED TWO SONS. WE'VE LIVED THROUGH ALL OF THAT.
WHEN I GET HOME IN THE EVENING AND ON THE WEEKENDS, I DO NOT TAKE MY CAR OUT OF THE GARAGE.
I RIDE MY BIKE OR I WALK TO LAKESIDE EVERY SINGLE DAY.
TAKING THE RETAIL SERVICES, YOU MEET YOUR NEIGHBORS.
YOU GET TO KNOW NEW ONES. YOU CAN DO ALL OF THAT WITHOUT EVER GETTING OUT OF YOUR CAR.
GETTING IN YOUR CAR. TO EXPAND LAKESIDE AND OFFER ADDITIONAL RESTAURANTS AND SERVICES TO THE NEARBY COMMUNITY ENTITY AND OFFER COMPANIES WALKABLE OPTIONS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES IS A GAME CHANGER. I HAVE SEEN OVER MY CAREER LAS COLINAS FRISCO VICTORY WHERE THEY DID NOT ADD WALKABLE AMENITIES, THEY DID NOT ADD THE MULTIFAMILY AND IT NEARLY SHUT SOME OF THOSE SUBMARKETS DOWN.
REALTY CAPITAL IS WAY AHEAD OF THEIR TIME. THE DEMOGRAPHIC AND FLOWER MOUND IN AND AROUND LAKESIDE.
THE INCOME LEVEL AND THE LEVEL OF EDUCATION OF OUR CITIZENS IS NOT ONE THAT WANTS, OR WILL EVEN REGULARLY SERVICE THE DRIVE THRU, FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT THEY TALK ABOUT. EVERYONE'S GOING HOME.
I'M ALMOST DONE, I PROMISE. ALMOST. I'M SORRY.
I HAVE TO STOP YOU. I HOPE THAT YOU APPROVE IT.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO MILES.
KEEP IN MIND, IF I EXTEND IT FOR ONE PERSON, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO EXTEND IT FOR EVERYBODY. OKAY.
THEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JEN. SHEARER. SHEARER.
AND I WANT TO REALLY I REALLY BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A TRULY A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO BRING A VERY UNIQUE AND SPECIAL MARQUEE TO THE TOWN.
AND MY TEAM IS REALLY WORKING VERY HARD TO BRING A VERY SPECIAL TYPE OF BUSINESS TO THIS TOWN.
AND WE FEEL THAT HAVING THAT SPECIAL MARQUEE TO THE, TO THE TOWN JUST ECHOES ALL THE SENTIMENTS THAT WE FEEL THIS TOWN DESERVES. AND AND, IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A REMARKABLE DEVELOPMENT.
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I AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR PRESENTATION AND THEIR WAY THAT THEY'RE PRESERVING THE GREEN SPACES.CLEARLY THEY'RE TRYING TO CAPITALIZE ON THE VALUE PROPOSITION AND THE BEAUTY OF THE TOWN NOT JUST EVERY SQUARE FOOT THAT THEY CAN POSSIBLY GET OUT OF IT. AND I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL THING.
I THINK IT'S THE KIND OF BUSINESS AND DEVELOPMENT THAT THE TOWN SHOULD WELCOME.
AND I THINK THAT THE APARTMENT ISSUE, IF IT IS AN ISSUE, SHOULD BE IT'S REALLY A DISTRACTION ISSUE.
SOMEONE LIKE MYSELF, I CHOOSE TO LIVE IN APARTMENTS.
IT'S JUST IT MAKES SENSE FOR ME. PEOPLE OF THIS DAY AND AGE CHOOSE TO LIVE IN APARTMENTS RATHER THAN OUT OF ECONOMIC SCARCITY, AS YOU MIGHT SAY. SO FOR ALL THESE REASONS, I AM VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF THE LAKESIDE DEVELOPMENT.
I ENJOY MY TIME THERE. JUST AS A RESIDENT OF THE TOWN.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S THEY THEY'RE BRINGING SOMETHING THAT'S BEAUTIFUL AND UNIQUE AND QUALITY.
AND GIVEN ITS PROXIMITY TO LAKE GRAPEVINE AND THE NATURAL RESOURCES OF THE LAND, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GREAT TO CONTINUE TO BRING FORTH THAT ESTHETIC AND SHELTER THE VISIBILITY FROM THE WAREHOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT THERE. I JUST DON'T SEE DRIVING PAST KWIK TRIP AS, NEARLY THE ASSET TO THE TOWN THAT THIS LAKESIDE EAST PROPOSAL COULD BE.
AND SO I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS DEVELOPMENT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AFTER JEN SCHERER, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SCOTT SHEARER.
HELLO. JEN SHEARER, 2620 REMBRANDT DRIVE. I TOO WAS ON THE VISIBILITY OF THAT MAP.
WE KISS LAKESIDE. I RUN LAKESIDE SIX DAYS A WEEK.
I AM INCREDIBLY PROUD TO SAY I'M FROM FLOWER MOUND.
I'M EVEN MORE PROUD TO SAY THAT I HAVE A BUSINESS HERE.
LET'S GO TO DALLAS FOR DINNER. WHY? WHY ARE WE LEAVING THIS INCREDIBLE TOWN AND CITY THAT OFFERS SO MUCH WHEN WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH PEOPLE AWAY, WHEN WE DON'T BRING BEAUTIFUL BUSINESSES AND IMAGES THAT JIMMY HAS OFFERED HERE TONIGHT TO SHOW I'M EXCITED TO SHARE WITH MY FRIENDS AND EVEN MORE SO OUT OF TOWN FAMILY, THAT WE'RE IN A CITY THAT'S GROWING AND DEVELOPING AS BEAUTIFULLY AS THE HIGHLAND VILLAGE.
I MEAN, THE HIGHLAND PARK OF DALLAS LIKE IT? IT SCREAMS THE SAME NOTABILITY.
THERE'S SERIOUSLY NOTHING MORE CONCERNING AS A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, WHEN ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS ARE SAYING, LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR DINNER, LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR DRINKS, LET'S GO SOMEWHERE ELSE FOR SPA, WHEN WE CAN HAVE ALL OF THAT WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE AND I CAN SAY, HEY, COME TO MY HOUSE, PARK, LET'S WALK, AND THEN WE'LL WALK BACK HOME AND ENJOY OUR EVENING AND GET HOME TO OUR FAMILIES IN A TIMELY MANNER.
INSTEAD OF SPENDING $200 FOR AN UBER AND THEN ANOTHER $200 FOR THE BABYSITTER WHEN WE CAN JUST LITERALLY GET INTO THEIR CARS, COME TO MY HOUSE AND WE WALK WITHIN EVERYTHING.
I COULD NOT BE MORE EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I COULD NOT BE MORE PROUD OF THE TOWN THAT WE'RE LIVING IN.
AND I REALLY HOPE THAT YOU'LL CONSIDER THIS FROM NOT JUST A A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER LIKE MYSELF, BUT MOMS WHO WILL ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT AND BE EXCITED TO SUPPORT THESE BUSINESSES BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOUR TACO SHOPS AND YOUR YOUR NAIL SALONS AND EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SAID, BUT SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF.
AND HONESTLY, BEING A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER, INSTAGRAM IS A HUGE DEAL HERE AND YOU NEED SOMETHING THAT IS INSTAGRAMMABLE, AND WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY AROUND TOWN WITH THESE SHOPS IS NOT INSTAGRAMMABLE.
IT'S JUST NOT. IT DRIVES OUR BUSINESS AND I KNOW IT WILL CERTAINLY DRIVE THESE BUSINESSES AS WELL.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SCOTT SHEARER AND THEN WE'LL HAVE JIM HENKING.
HI SCOTT SHEARER I LIVE AT 2620 REMBERT DRIVE.
I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM LAKESIDE.
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I WOULD JUST LIKE TO START BY SAYING THAT FLURRIES DOES INDEED HAVE THE BEST CHICKEN SALAD IN TOWN.WE WE LOVE LIVING HERE. WE STARTED THIS BUSINESS FOUR YEARS AGO, AND IT'S BEEN A REALLY INTERESTING RIDE GETTING TO KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT AREN'T YOUR CLOSE FRIENDS. AND YOU GET TO HERE A LOT. AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE BUILT THE BUSINESS IS WE DIDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DRIVE TO DALLAS TO EXPERIENCE SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL.
AND SO I'M PROUD OF LIVING IN FLOWER MOUND. AND I WANT TO HAVE I LOVE HOW MILES SAID IT.
THERE'S THIS ENTRY POINT, AND YOU GET ONE SHOT TO TELL EVERYBODY COMING INTO TOWN WHO WE ARE.
AND I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE MORE PROUD OF WHAT THAT IS.
THERE'S BEEN THIS KIND OF CURMUDGEONY RESPONSE TO GROWTH OTH AND I THINK IT'S SHORTSIGHTED BECAUSE THE REALITY IS THEY OWN THE LAND AND THEY'RE ZONED TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE JIM HANKING AND THEN WE HAVE WENDY BONO.
BONO. HI. I'M JIM HANKING. I RAISED MY FAMILY.
WE BUILT A HOUSE HERE IN 1995. WE LIVED HERE.
NEXT MONTH WILL BE 30 YEARS. MY WIFE AND I ARE EMPTY NESTERS.
AND I HAVE ONE DAUGHTER UP IN DENTON DOING HER POST-GRADUATE WORK.
AND I HAVE ANOTHER DAUGHTER OVER BY THE SPEEDWAY.
RAISING MY SIX MONTH OLD GRANDDAUGHTER. AND WHEN WE GET TOGETHER, WE GET TOGETHER LAKESIDE.
WE LIKE TO GO TO MIO NONNO, NO. OR WE GO TO 1845 OR THE TAVERN.
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE MESS. WE LOVE THE SYNERGY OF OF LAKESIDE.
WE WALK THE TRAILS. WE WE HAVE FRIENDS THAT COME IN THAT LIVE IN FLOWER MOUND AND MEET US THERE.
OR THEY COME IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND MEET US THERE, TOO.
AND I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT DUPLICATE ITSELF ACROSS THE STREET.
AND JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT, AND I HOPE YOU WILL, TOO.
THANKS. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE WENDY MINNOW, AND THEN THE LAST PERSON WE HAVE IS JEFFREY BLASKO, AND. GOOD EVENING. I'M WENDY MINNOW. I LIVE IN LAKESIDE AS WELL.
CLOSE TO THE TOWER AND MOVED HERE. LAST YEAR, WE LOOKED EVERYWHERE FROM DALLAS TO FORT WORTH FOR A PLACE I'VE ALWAYS WANTED A REALLY WALKABLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S SUPER IMPORTANT TO ME.
AND WE MOVED HERE, AND WE ABSOLUTELY LOVE IT.
WE WALK TO LOS CAMINOS. WE WALK ACROSS THE STREET.
WE WALK TO EVERY, EVERY PLACE AROUND HERE. I THINK Y'ALL HAVE CREATED SOMETHING SO UNIQUE.
ONE OF THE REASONS WE KNOW JIMMY'S NAME IS BECAUSE JIMMY HAS COME TO ASK US WHAT WE WANT.
WHAT DO WE FEEL? AND I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT, AND I'VE CERTAINLY HEARD THIS TONIGHT IN MY DAY JOB, I'M AN URBAN PLANNER. I WRITE COMPREHENSIVE PLANS, I WRITE ZONING CODES.
I DEAL WITH A LOT OF CITIES ALL OVER THE ALL OVER TEXAS.
AND WE HAVE A TERM THAT WE OFTEN HEAR FOR NIMBYS.
NOT IN MY BACKYARD, PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT SOMETHING.
THEY ARE IN FAVOR OF APARTMENTS AND THE RETAIL AND THE WALKABILITY.
IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS MADE THIS SO UNIQUE.
AND SO I THINK THEY'VE CREATED AN OUTSTANDING VISION.
I'VE HEARD THINGS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ARE WE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK ACROSS THE STREET? I THINK THAT'S FIXABLE. FIXABLE BY SLOWING THE SPEED LIMIT, MAYBE CHANGING THE TIMING OF THE LIGHT.
THERE'S THINGS THAT WE CAN DO TO BE ABLE TO CREATE THAT. BUT MOST OF US ACTUALLY LOVE WALKING, AND WE LOVE BEING ABLE TO GET AROUND. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THE FACT THERE'S SO MANY CITIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING TO HAVE HOUSING DIVERSITY.
AND I CAN STAND ON MY FRONT PORCH AND I'VE GOT MILLION DOLLAR CONDOS BEHIND ME.
I'VE GOT A LUXURY TOWER TO MY RIGHT, I'VE GOT A MOBILE HOME ACROSS THE STREET.
I HAVE A 55 AND OLDER APARTMENT. I HAVE OTHER APARTMENTS AND ZERO LOT LINES AND TOWNHOMES, AND SO MUCH DIVERSITY THAT HAS BEEN CREATED IN THE HOUSING WITHIN LAKESIDE IS SO UNIQUE.
THERE ARE PLACES ALL OVER TEXAS THAT WOULD KILL FOR WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
YOU ALL HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB IN DOING THIS. I HOPE YOU APPROVE THE PROJECT.
I'M CERTAINLY IN SUPPORT OF IT. A LOT OF PEOPLE I'VE TALKED TO ARE IN SUPPORT OF IT.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT PRODUCT. SO THANK YOU. THE LAST PERSON IS JEFFREY BLASKO.
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MAYOR, MAY I JUST HAVE A MOMENT TO GET THE SCREEN SET UP, PLEASE? TAKE ME A MOMENT. WE HAVE I DON'T I DON'T SEE ANY THERESA.YOU SEND ME A PRESENTATION? NO, I JUST HAVE SOMETHING FROM PNC THAT I HAVE UP HERE ON THE MAP.
IT'S JUST A MAP PIECE. OKAY. THAT'S. I SHOWED YOU PNC.
TYPICALLY, IT'S UP TO YOU. YEAH, YEAH. IT'S FINE.
OKAY WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT THERE ARE SOME COMMENT CARDS THAT THEY DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE FIVE PEOPLE WHO FILLED OUT CARDS IN SUPPORT OF ITEM FOUR AND FIVE, K FOUR AND FIVE, AND THEN SEVEN PEOPLE WHO OPPOSED ITEM K FOUR AND FIVE.
ALL RIGHT, MAYOR. THIS SYSTEM MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING THAN I'M USED TO.
OKAY. MY NAME IS JEFFREY BLASKO. I LIVE AT 1720 MILFORD DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.
I AM A 26 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND, AND I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE TO YOU THAT I AM PROBABLY THE THIRD MOST KNOWLEDGEABLE PERSON IN THIS TOWN ON LAKESIDE, BEHIND THE STUART STEWART FAMILY AND MR. ARCHIE, AND PROBABLY TOMMY DALTON OF TOWN STAFF.
WE HAVE SPENT HOURS AND DAYS ON LAKESIDE TOWER IN THIS DISTRICT.
WHAT YOU HAVE IS THIS IS THE TRUTH IN FRONT OF YOU.
I'D LIKE YOU NOT TO BE DISTRACTED BY THE PACKAGE THAT MR. WOOD GAVE YOU. AND I'D LIKE TO POINT YOUR ATTENTION TO BULLET POINT SIX ON PAGE TWO.
TONIGHT YOU HEARD ABOUT THE SHELL GAME. WHAT IS THE SHELL GAME, EXACTLY? THE SHELL GAME IS ON PAGE SIX, LATE OF PAGE SIX.
SO YOU GOT A YOU GOT NUMBER SIX ON PAGE TWO AND PAGE SIX.
PAGE SIX IS WHERE LAKESIDE WALK IN IN 2018. AND HAD THIS PRINTED STATEMENT FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL IN 2018. IN THAT STATEMENT IT READS TO THE AUDIENCE, ACKNOWLEDGING THAT ADDITIONAL UNITS CANNOT BE CONSTRUCTED IN BUILT AREAS, AND ASSUMING THE APPLICANT BUILDS ALL OF THE PROPOSED 875 UNITS, 329 OF WHICH WERE MOVED FROM LAKESIDE TO LAKESIDE VILLAGE.
LAKESIDE IS THIS AREA. LAKESIDE VILLAGE IS BEING BUILT TODAY.
UP TO 11 HIGH RISE TOWERS CONSISTING OF 929 APARTMENT UNITS, OF WHICH 200 JUST OPENED UP 207. IN ADDITION TO THE CONDO TOWER, I BELIEVE A 19 STORY HIGH RISE BUILDING IS BEING BUILT BY THE NEXT CONDO TOWER ON THE END. ALREADY BUILT A 19 STORIES COMING.
THEY SHIFTED THOSE 329 UNITS FROM THE INTERIOR, WHERE THEY KNEW THEY COULDN'T BE BUILT BEFORE, TO LAKESIDE VILLAGE. AND NOW, BECAUSE THE COUNCIL ADDED IT TO WHAT YOU SEE ON PAGE FIVE IS 2604 UNITS. THEY'RE GOING BACK TO GET THE SAME UNITS AND MOVE THEM AGAIN, BECAUSE THE NUMBER WENT FROM 22, 75, 2601. SECONDLY, WHAT WAS MENTIONED TONIGHT IS THIS.
THIS WAS WHAT WAS MENTIONED. MR. ARCHIE SENT OUT HIS LETTER OR SOMEONE IN HIS STAFF DID.
AND THEY'VE SHOWED YOU THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF ALAMOGORDO, NEW MEXICO, WHERE YOU SEE THEIR PICTURE OF THE MCDONALD'S AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I WANT YOU TO PLEASE DENY THIS BASED UPON WHAT THEY PROPOSE.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND THE TIME IS NOW.
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956. THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT AND PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE 551, SECTION 071072074 AND 087. IT WON'T BE LONG. WE'LL BE OUT SHORTLY.BUT I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. GOOD EVENING.
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FLOWER MOUND. THE TIME IS NOW 10:11 P.M. AND WE ARE RESUMING BACK INTO OPEN SESSION.[03:55:04]
FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION, THERE IS NO ACTION TO TO BE MADE FROM THAT, THAT CLOSED SESSION AS WE ARE COMING BACK TO K ITEMS K FOUR AND FIVE TO DISCUSS. SO AT THIS POINT COUNCIL, WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ITEM.[Items K.4 & K.5 (Part 2 of 2)]
AND THEN IF YOU NEED THE APPLICANT TO COME UP, WE CAN WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP.ALL RIGHT. SO. SO AT THIS POINT WE'VE HAD SOME WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW PEOPLE COME FORWARD TO SUPPORT THIS AND TO OPPOSE THIS AS A DIFFICULT DECISION TO MAKE.
DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW I HAVE QUITE A FEW.
DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GO FIRST? WHERE ARE MY QUESTIONS? SO FIRST OF ALL, ON THIS ON THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I'M GOING TO ASK JIMMY ARCHIE ON THESE IF YOU'LL COME UP. SO WITH THAT, WITH THOSE APARTMENTS, AT FIRST I KIND OF WANT TO SEE WHAT THE AFFORDABILITY IS ON THOSE APARTMENTS.
I KNOW YOU'VE HAD THE TOWER. WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT ON PRICING ON THOSE APARTMENTS.
THOSE APARTMENTS WITH THE STRUCTURE PARKING GARAGE ARE PROBABLY $2.50 TO 275 PER SQUARE FOOT.
OKAY. AND THEN THE IMPACT ON THE SCHOOLS. HAVE YOU LOOKED AT WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE ON THE SCHOOLS? HAVE YOU TALKED TO ISD AT ALL? WITH WITH HAVING THAT MANY APARTMENTS, WHAT WOULD THAT BE? HAVE YOU HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM? SPOKEN TO THEM AT ALL? NO WE'RE NOT. AGAIN, THESE ARE REALLY BEING BUILT FOR EMPTY NESTERS, BABY BOOMERS, SINGLE DIVORCEES, DOUBLE INCOME, NO KIDS. SO THEY'RE NOT. IT'S NOT REALLY.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT THE OPEN SPACES, IT'S NOT REALLY.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO IN THE WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT CATERING TO FAMILIES.
BUT I'M SURE THERE WILL BE SOME FAMILIES. BUT NO, WE HAVEN'T TALKED TO L-I-S-D.
OKAY. AND THEN TRAFFIC. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TRAFFIC BEFORE.
BUT WE'VE DONE THE TYPICAL THE STANDARD TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW RETAIL BUSINESSES, DRIVE THRUS, TYPE OF BUSINESSES THAT HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN AND OUT, LOTS OF IN AND OUTS, CREATING MORE TRIPS IN AND OUT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE DAY WITH A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
MORNING. LEAVING THE AFTERNOON, THE RESTAURANTS ARE USUALLY LUNCH AND THEN DINNER.
SO THE THE PEAK PERIODS ARE KIND OF SPREAD OUT THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE DAY.
SO JUST IN TERMS OF ANALYZING THE CURRENT ZONING VERSUS THE PROPOSED ZONING IS AS FAR AS SAFETY CROSSING 24.99. AND AGAIN, I MEAN, WE YOU KNOW, TALK TO OUR TEAM A LOT.
THE BAD THING IS IT DOESN'T TOUCH ANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. MEANING DIDN'T KNOW IF MANY PEOPLE KNEW ABOUT THE PROJECT, SO WE REACHED OUT TO THE PEOPLE. KIND OF DID A GRASSROOTS WALK THE NEIGHBORHOODS UP AND DOWN SPINKS ROAD, JUST TRYING TO LET THEM KNOW THAT WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING OVER HERE, BECAUSE WE REALLY SEE THIS THIS IS REALLY EXTENDING LAKESIDE OVER TO THE EAST SIDE TO A LOT OF THOSE HOMES, THE NEW TOLL BROTHERS SUBDIVISION.
AS FAR AS CROSSING 2499, I'VE MET WITH MATT HOTELLING ON SOME IDEAS.
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WE WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF SLOWING TRAFFIC DOWN TO 45MPH THROUGH THIS AREA.I THINK JUST NORTH OF US, JUST NORTH OF SPINKS ROAD.
I'M GUESSING THAT'S BECAUSE THAT LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT WASN'T DEVELOPED FOR A LONG TIME, AND THEY WANTED TO OPEN UP AND MOVE THE CARS THROUGH, SO THAT'S REALLY NOT OUR DECISION, BUT WE WOULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT. SO I GUESS FOR, FOR MATT. SO WHAT'S THE VOLUME OF TRAFFIC IN PEAK TIME OVER THERE.
THAT'S WITHOUT APARTMENTS. ADDITIONAL APARTMENTS GENERALLY.
EXACTLY. YES. THAT GOES THROUGH THAT LAKESIDE CROSSING.
THE 2499 AND LAKESIDE, THE. I SHOULD HAVE LOOKED IT UP.
YOU'RE YOU'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT. I COULD LOOK IT UP.
WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS JUST WHAT THE TRAFFIC IS NOW AND THEN ADDING ALL THOSE APARTMENTS.
WHAT'S IT GOING TO BE? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT'S THAT VOLUME GOING TO BE LIKE? AND IF YOU SLOW THE TRAFFIC DOWN AND THIS IS THE REALITY AND THIS IS WHAT EVERYBODY'S WONDERING, JIMMY, I'M GOING TO JUST BRING IT OUT THERE BECAUSE IT'S IT GETS REALLY BACKED UP OVER THERE.
DURING PEAK TIMES ESPECIALLY. SO THE CONCERN IS WHAT IS THAT VOLUME GOING TO DO.
YEAH. IT'S I, I DRIVE THE I ANALYZE THE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE QUITE A BIT.
AND IT STOPS THE TRAFFIC FROM GETTING IN TOWN.
BUT ONCE YOU MAKE IT THROUGH THE STOPLIGHT, IT RACETRACK TRAFFIC OPENS UP ALL THE WAY TILL YOU GET UP TO THIS PART OF TOWN WHERE THERE'S MORE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY AND AND THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC. WHEN YOU GET TO 30, 40 AND COME NORTH, THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THE TRAFFIC IS, BUT IT'S THAT IT'S THAT STOPLIGHT AND GRAPEVINE THAT'S REALLY PREVENTING PEOPLE FROM GETTING OUT OF TOWN QUICKLY OR GETTING BACK IN TOWN QUICKLY.
RIGHT. AND THEN WHAT OTHER STREET THEY COULD OVER BY CADDO.
YEAH, THEY CAN ACCESS SPINX. THEY CAN GO DIRECTLY TO LAKESIDE.
THEY CAN'T CROSS OVER LAKESIDE, SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO A STOPLIGHT.
IF THEY WANT TO GO SOUTH ON LAKESIDE PARKWAY, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO TO SPINX ROAD AND HANG A PROTECTED LEFT SOUTH, OR GO DOWN TO LAKESIDE PARKWAY AND THEN TURN LEFT AT A PROTECTED AREA GOING SOUTH.
MAYOR, CAN I DOVETAIL INTO YOUR TRAFFIC QUESTION? SURE. SO THE PACKET DID SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS PASSED, AND I WANTED TO ASK MATT ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE THE IDEA OF LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT WAS BROUGHT UP.
I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THAT. COULD YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THAT MIGHT WORK? THE WAY WE WOULD. WE LOOK AT THE LOWERING. THE SPEED LIMIT IS FIRST, WE'D HAVE TO DO A SPEED STUDY THROUGH THAT DIFFERENT PORTIONS OF 2499.
THEN WE WE WOULD NEED TO RUN THAT BY THE DENTON OFFICE FOR THE FOR TXDOT.
AND THEN IF THEY AGREE THERE'S THERE'S TWO WAYS OF DOING IT.
IF THEY CAN DO IT BY A MINUTE ORDER WHICH HAS TO GO DOWN TO AUSTIN AND THEY CAN DO IT, OR IF THEY'RE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE'RE SAYING, WE CAN WE CAN STILL PASS THE ORDINANCE TO LOWER THE SPEED LIMIT BECAUSE WE HAVE THOSE SPEED LIMITS IN OUR ORDINANCE.
THAT'S ENCOURAGING. THE FLIP SIDE THERE IS THE MINUTE ORDER.
SO THEY COULD RAISE IT AGAIN IF THEY COULD BECAUSE IT IS THEIR ROADWAY.
OKAY. HOW LONG MIGHT THAT TAKE? IF WE WERE GIVEN THE JURISDICTION TO DO IT THROUGH OUR OWN ORDINANCE? IT'S IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO GET THE SPEED STUDY DONE.
SO IT'S A IT'S AT LEAST A FEW MONTHS PROBABLY.
OKAY. YEAH, WE WOULD, WE WOULD KNOW BEFORE WE WOULD APPROACH TEXDOT.
WHETHER IT EVEN MAKES THE DATA EVEN MAKES SENSE TO APPROACH TEXDOT.
THANK YOU. JUST TO CONTINUE THAT CONVERSATION JUST A LITTLE BIT.
THE APPLICANT MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE C-2 VERSUS THIS MIXED USE TRAFFIC IMPACTS.
MATT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT A LITTLE BIT FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE? I TOOK A LOOK AT THAT.
AND OF COURSE I HAD TO MAKE SOME ASSUMPTIONS ON WHAT C-2 WOULD LOOK LIKE, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A NECESSARILY A C-2 PLAN, BUT WHAT THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT I MADE AND THE DATA THAT I HAVE, IT'S ABOUT A 5,060% INCREASE FOR THE C-2 OVER THE MIXED USE,
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BUT THAT'S DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT THE DAY, RIGHT? COMPARED TO KIND OF NO MATTER WHETHER IT WAS THE PEAK HOUR OR THE THE DAILY VOLUMES, THEY WERE PRETTY CLOSE TO THAT 50, 60% INCREASE, NO MATTER IF YOU'RE LOOKING IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT PEAK PM PEAK OR THE DAILY VOLUME GENERATED BY THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.NOW I CHOSE I CHOSE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS IN SOME RETAIL IN AN AUTO PARTS STORE.
SO I MEAN, IT COULD BE IF THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE WHAT I CHOSE.
NO. I'M SORRY, DID DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT THAT THE APARTMENTS WOULD INCREASE THAT 50 TO 60%, OR DID I HEAR THE WHOLE. OH, OKAY. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARIFICATION.
NOT NOT NOT A PART, NOT JUST. OKAY. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? I KNOW YOU WANT TO. WE'LL JUST START DOWN HERE.
XAVIER, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
OKAY. IAN, HELLO. I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT SLIDE IT WAS IN YOUR PRESENTATION.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T SEE A NUMBER, BUT IT WAS ON.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON THE SLIDE. OH, YEAH. MAYBE I CAN GO.
TRY TEN AND I'LL SEE IF IT WAS ON THAT ONE. NO.
TRY LATER IN THE PRESENTATION. I'M LOOKING FOR ONE THAT DESCRIBES THE TOWNHOMES.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN THAT ONE. TRY THAT ONE IF YOU WOULD.
NO, THAT'S NOT IT. JUST A SITE PLAN THAT DEPICTS THEM.
WELL, THEY WERE LABELED, AND IT'S NOT THIS ONE, BUT THEY WERE LABELED FOR PROPOSED FOR RENTAL.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE MORE HOME OWNERSHIP BROUGHT IN.
AND I THINK ONE OF OUR SPEAKERS ALSO SAID THAT TONIGHT.
WE WE ACTUALLY, I THINK SINCE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION.
LEXIN. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, DAN, BUT WE HAD A PROVISION WHERE WE CAN SEPARATELY PLOT THOSE LOTS SO WE COULD CREATE SEPARATELY PLATTED FOR SALE TOWNHOMES THERE. SO THAT PROVISION IS BUILT INTO THE ZONING.
AND ESPECIALLY HAVING GONE TO AUSTIN SO MANY TIMES, THERE'S A HUGE PUSH AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO END THIS YEAR, EVEN IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL IN WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR TO SAVE FLOWER MOUND, I THINK THERE'LL BE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD.
AND I DID TELL THEM I THOUGHT WE WERE DOING OUR PART.
WE HAVE A WIDE ARRAY OF HOMES AVAILABLE, SO I'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE IN THAT VEIN.
I HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS. SO YOU HAD ANOTHER MAYBE SLIDE 11 IF YOU COULD GO TO THAT ONE.
AND THEN I DID APPRECIATE AND I WANTED TO CALL THIS OUT, THAT YOU PUT THE PARKING, THE SPECIAL PARKING NEXT TO THE SUBSTATION VERSUS THE APARTMENTS. SO I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD. BUT I KIND OF ALSO WONDERED IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE THE APARTMENTS A DIFFERENT AREA IN THE WHOLE PLOT, MEANING WHERE THAT OFFICE BUILDING IS. THAT'S KIND OF LIKE.
PRIMO REAL ESTATE. WHY WOULDN'T WE WANT THE APARTMENTS TO BE? AND THEY'RE LOWER TOO. SO WOULD WE NOT WANT THE HIGHER BUILDING BEHIND? SO IT KIND OF GRADUATES UP? WAS THAT CONSIDERED? HELP ME UNDERSTAND. I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW WE CAN MOVE THE RESIDENCES A LITTLE BIT FARTHER AWAY FROM THE INDUSTRIAL USES, BECAUSE THAT IS SOMETHING WE DO TRY TO DO HERE IN TOWN.
IS THAT POSSIBLE? IF YOU PUT THOSE, IF YOU PUT THE WHOLE PROPERTY TOGETHER AND NOT ASK FOR TWO.
SEPARATE USES, SO TO SPEAK. SO YEAH. TO MOVE.
TO MOVE IT FURTHER WEST. WE WOULD. WE WE WOULD.
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THIS. THIS COULD SQUINCH IN IF THIS SQUINCHED IN.THIS WOULD SQUINCH IN AND THEN THIS WOULD NEED TO WIDEN OUT.
OKAY. SO IT WOULD APPEAR TO BE EVEN MORE. I DON'T WANT TO ACHIEVE THAT.
OKAY. YEAH, I'LL THINK OUT LOUD. YEAH. THE JCC DOESN'T.
THE BACKSIDE OF THAT GARAGE IS WHAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT THE SUBSTATION.
AND THERE'S ONLY ONLY THIS END OF THE BUILDING.
LOOKS EAST AND THEN THE TOWNHOMES. YOU'LL PULL IN YOUR GARAGE IN THE BACK.
OKAY. AND THEN YOUR FRONT DOOR WILL BE HERE. AND YOU COULD PUT YOUR MASTER BEDROOM UP HERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, OPEN OVERLOOKING THIS LAWN SPACE, SO. OKAY, WE'VE LOOKED AT IT IN QUITE DETAIL, AND I JUST KNOW WE DID RECEIVE AND THIS HAS BEEN A FEW YEARS, SOME COMPLAINTS FROM AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NOT IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT ON THE BORDER.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THESE ALSO ARE 24 OVER SEVEN, BUT THE BACKUP ALARMS FROM THE TOW VEHICLES, IT WAS REALLY BAD FOR THEM. AND I WONDER TOO.
SO THOSE APARTMENTS, THERE ARE SOME APARTMENTS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PARKING STRUCTURE TOO.
I SEE IT, I GUESS, IN YELLOW THERE. RIGHT. SO THEY ARE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO THE WAREHOUSE AS WELL.
YEAH. THIS ONE END IS THE IS THERE'D BE FOUR RESIDENCES ON THAT END OF THE BUILDING.
OKAY. THOSE WOULD BE CONCERNS. I WOULD HAVE ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE RESIDENTS.
AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS A LITTLE BIT CHALLENGING, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME PEOPLE DID MENTION THE FLIER AND I DID GET SOME EMAILS ABOUT THE FLIER, AND IT'S IN ONE OF THE PACKETS THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
SO I AND I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS EARLIER ABOUT YOU DIDN'T WANT THE C2 STUFF THERE.
IT JUST DIDN'T SEEM TO FIT. AND SO YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? I MEAN, DID I GET THAT RIGHT WHEN YOU KIND OF SAID WE BOUGHT WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ZONED C2 AT C2 PRICES.
RIGHT. AND WE'RE HOPING TO COME UP WITH A GREAT PLAN TO PUT THERE.
SURE. SO MY QUESTION IS, NOW THAT YOU OWN THE PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW THE VALUE OF IT, AND YOU DO HAVE THE VISION FOR IT, IF FOR SOME CHANCE THIS DIDN'T GO THROUGH AS YOU ENVISIONED, WOULD YOU HAVE TO PUT C2 THINGS THERE RIGHT NOW? SO IT'S BEEN. IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS. WE HAVE A FIDUCIARY.
I HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO THE INVESTORS IN THIS PROPERTY THAT HAVE BEEN WAITING THREE YEARS TO CREATE A RETURN ON INVESTMENT, AND. THE ANSWER IS THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD.
IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED, WE FALL BACK TO THE EXISTING ZONING.
THEN WE'LL PROBABLY LOOK AT TRYING TO DO THE BEST POSSIBLE DEVELOPMENT WE CAN DO WITH C-2 ZONING.
I KNOW YOU AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT JUST YESTERDAY.
AND WHAT ABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING QUALITY BEHIND YOUR NAME.
I KNOW YOU WANT THIS. THIS IS YOUR NAME BEHIND ALL THIS.
AND I MEAN, WHAT HOW ABOUT, LIKE, IF IF WE LOOKED AT REDUCING THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS IN THOSE ENTITLEMENTS SINCE YOU DIDN'T USE THOSE OVER ON THE OTHER SIDE, AND YOU WANT THOSE ENTITLEMENTS THERE? WHAT NUMBER IF YOU IF WE SAID BRING THAT NUMBER DOWN ON THE APARTMENTS, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE OR WHAT POSSIBILITY WOULD THAT BE? ALL IT ALL IT'S DOING IS GOING TO MAKE IT HARDER FOR ME TO DEVELOP THIS VISION RIGHT HERE.
SO TELL ME WHAT THE PURPOSE IS. AND IF THERE'S A PURPOSE AND I.
FEEL LIKE I CAN STILL DELIVER THE VISION HERE.
THIS 35,000FT² THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO. PRIOR TO BUILDING ANY OF THIS BACK HERE.
THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE EASY. IT'S IT'S A LOT OF SPACE TO COMMIT TO TO BUILD BEFORE YOU BUILD THIS.
SO YOU HAVE WHAT? WHAT BUILDING THIS ALLOWS. THIS ALLOWS THIS TO BE WAY MORE EXECUTABLE.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT'S, LIKE I SAID, I CAME IN THE ORIGINAL ZONING HAD 350.
I DROPPED IT TO 326. I COULD HAVE USED IT. I COULD USE THE ADDITIONAL 20.
WHAT IS THAT, 24 UNITS. BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT WE HAD LEFT OVER.
SO I REDUCED IT TO 326. I MEAN, IF THIS COMES, WE'RE WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT. I MEAN, IF I MEAN, THIS IS A HEARING.
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THIS IS A HEARING TONIGHT. YEAH, THIS IS A HEARING TONIGHT.SO, I MEAN, IF THIS IS, I MEAN, POSSIBLY NOT RESOLVED TONIGHT.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE COULD POSSIBLY LOOK AT TABLING IF COUNCIL DECIDES TO DO THAT.
BUT LET'S LET'S DO QUESTIONS. I HAVE A FEW MORE COMMENTS FOR THE APPLICANT IF I CAN GO AHEAD.
SO I KNOW YOU'VE WORKED REALLY HARD ON THIS AND I HAVE SEEN CHANGES BASED ON FEEDBACK.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT I COUNTED, WE RECEIVED MULTIPLE EMAILS AND IT WAS ALMOST A 3 TO 1 RATIO APPROVED TO DENY. SO I WOULD SAY THAT'S PRETTY STRONG SUPPORT.
SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO WANTED IT TO BE APPROVED DID SAY THEY WEREN'T CRAZY ABOUT THE APARTMENTS, BUT THEY WERE SAYING NO NEW APARTMENTS, WHICH TECHNICALLY THIS IS NOT NEW.
NEW. IT'S MOVED OVER. AND THEN TONIGHT IT WAS ALMOST A 4 TO 1 RATIO IN SUPPORT.
SO WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENT FEEDBACK IN FAVOR.
I DO ESPECIALLY LIKE THAT YOU ADDED THE EARNOUT REQUIREMENT.
I THINK YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING IN FLOWER MOUND, AND HOW WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO WORK COLLECTIVELY WITH DEVELOPERS IN SAYING, LOOK, WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO BAIT AND SWITCH ANYMORE.
LIKE, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. BUT IF YOU COME TO THE TABLE AND YOU SAY, HERE'S THE COMMERCIAL AND I PROMISE I'M NOT GOING TO BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT THE DA SAYS, OR, YOU KNOW, THE ZONING, YOU CAN'T DO IT. SO IT'S BACKED UP.
I LIKE THAT A LOT. IT PASSED SMART GROWTH. IT PASSED THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
I DO LIKE ALSO THE 18,000 SQUARE FOOT OF MIXED USE WITH THE APARTMENTS.
AND WHAT REALLY KIND OF DROVE IT HOME FOR ME WAS A LOT OF THE TESTIMONY OF THE RESIDENTS WHO REALLY LIKED THEIR BUSINESSES AND THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY THAT, OH, LOOK, I KNOW THE NEIGHBORS UPSTAIRS. I MAKE THEIR SANDWICHES, I KNOW THEIR DOGS.
I LIKE THE OPEN SPACES. I APPRECIATED THE TRAILS AND THE CONNECTION.
AND I REALLY LIKE YOUR STRUCTURED PARKING. WHAT A GREAT CONVENIENCE THAT IF YOU'RE ON THE THIRD FLOOR, YOU CAN HAVE A SPOT ON THE THIRD FLOOR TO PARK.
SO I REALLY DID SEE A LOT OF PROGRESS. AND I KNOW YOU WORKED REALLY HARD AND I APPRECIATE THAT.
RESIDENTS, ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMING FORWARD AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A REPUTATION FOR THAT. SO I BELIEVE YOU DID LISTEN TO A LOT OF THEM.
SO, I MEAN, I JUST HOPE WE CAN MOVE, MAKE SOME MOVEMENT ON THE TOWNHOMES.
AND I WOULDN'T MIND SEEING LESSER UNITS IF WE CAN.
SO THOSE ARE MY THOUGHTS FOR YOU. AND JUST TO DOVETAIL ON THAT REAL QUICK, YOU'RE ADDING THE RETAIL COMPONENT TO THE APARTMENT FACILITY BY REDUCING BY TAKING THAT AWAY. WILL THAT JUST CAUSE THE APARTMENT SIZES TO SHRINK? OR COULD YOU ACTUALLY LOSE SOME OF THE APARTMENT UNITS BY DOING THAT? WELL, WHAT? AFTER THE PNC MEETING, I THINK WE HAD A MAXIMUM.
DAN, IS HE HERE? YEAH. WE HAD A MAXIMUM OF 16,000 THAT WE COULD BUILD.
A 6000 THAT WE COULD BUILD ON THE GROUND FLOOR.
WE OFFERED UP. TO INCREASE THAT SO THAT WE COULD DO MORE OF THAT GROUND FLOOR AS POTENTIALLY DO IT AS IN-LINE. RETAIL. SO UNTIL WE TAKE THIS PROJECT OUT TO THE MARKET YOU KNOW, THESE THESE ARE INTENDED TO BE RESTAURANTS. THE GROUND FLOORS OF THESE WILL HAVE SOME RETAIL, BUT THE END CAPS LIKELY TO BE FOOD BASED BUSINESSES.
SO THERE IS THE POTENTIAL TO ADD SOME SMALLER TENANTS IN LINE DOWN HERE.
IF WE DID THAT, YES, IT WOULD EAT UP. BASICALLY, THIS WOULD BE LEASING, FITNESS, MAILROOM LOUNGE, CO-WORKING SPACE ALL THE AMENITIES OF THE MULTIFAMILY.
WE WANTED TO KEEP THE CORNER FOR COMMERCIAL. WE WANTED TO KEEP THIS CORNER.
IF THERE'S ENOUGH DEMAND AND WE CAN, WE CAN LEASE THIS OUT, THEN THAT WOULD PUSH THE COMMON SPACE, MAYBE TO THIS SIDE OF THE BUILDING ON THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH WOULD NATURALLY IT WOULD EAT UP SOME UNITS.
YES. WHICH WOULD I'M CAPTAIN HEIGHT, SO I'VE KIND OF MAXED THE 326.
WE'VE MAXED IT OUT. THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO PUT IT ANYMORE.
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APPROVED AND WE TAKE IT OUT TO MARKET AND WE CAN RELEASE SOME OF THAT GROUND FLOOR SPACE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO ZONING AND SAY, HEY, CAN WE GET THE RIGHT TO DO MORE COMMERCIAL SPACE DOWN HERE ON THE GROUND FLOOR? I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT OUR POTENTIAL WAS. OKAY.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS.
MATT OR TIFFANY? WHAT'S THE LEVEL OF SERVICE TRAFFIC WISE RIGHT NOW ON 24.99 IN THIS AREA? DURING THE PM, IT'S A LEVEL OF LEVEL SERVICE D E.
IT'S RIGHT THERE ON THE RIGHT THERE ON THE CUSP.
AND WHAT'S THE LONG TERM OUTLOOK? WHAT ARE WE PREDICTING IT TO GET.
THE BUILD OUT AFTER THIS IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE FIRMLY IMPLANTED IN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE E.
I KNOW WE'RE SAYING THIS IS A LITTLE BIT IT'S ABOUT THE SAME AS C2.
I'D LIKE TO SEE LESS. MORE TOWNHOMES MORE OWNERSHIP.
BUT I THINK WE WE DO HAVE TO ADD IN, JIMMY, THE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE YOU HAVE THE TOWER THERE.
SO THAT HASN'T BEEN OCCUPIED YET. SO WE STILL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT COMPUTATION IN TO THE TRAFFIC COMING IN AND OUT BECAUSE THAT THAT TOWER HASN'T BEEN FILLED YET.
WELL, MATT, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO INCREASE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE AFTER THIS? THIS AREA IS BUILT OUT. THAT'S A TXDOT ISSUE.
BUT WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE RETIMING THE THE CORRIDOR.
SO I MEAN THERE'S YOU'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY SHIFT TIME AROUND.
IT WILL ADD LANES AT LAKESIDE THAT WILL HELP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE.
I MEAN, YOU CAN NEVER BUILD YOUR WAY OUT OF CONGESTION, BUT THERE'S A FEW THINGS LIKE ON THIS PROPERTY, THERE'S GOING TO BE RIGHT TURN LANES. THERE'S GOING TO BE A RIGHT TURN LANE AT SPINKS. THAT WILL ALSO HELP THE LEVEL OF SERVICE AT LEAST SOMEWHAT THROUGH THE AREA.
IT'S NOT IT'S NOT A THROUGH LANE, BUT IT'LL HELP SOME.
NOT EVERYONE'S GOING TO GO UP AND DOWN 24.992, BECAUSE YOU CAN JUST SKIP RIGHT OVER TO 121.
IT'S EASY FROM THIS AREA. YEAH. ADDING THE LANES TO GET YOU OUT TO 121 THAT WAY THAT'LL IT'LL ENCOURAGE SOME PEOPLE TO GO LAKESIDE INSTEAD OF CONTINUING DOWN 2499. I THINK YOU HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS THAT PEOPLE IN LAKESIDE WALK AND DON'T USE THEIR CAR A LOT.
SO I THINK WHAT YOU HEARD WAS MIXED. USE ACTUALLY REDUCES TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT TAKES CARS OFF THE ROAD, HAVING TO GO PLACES TO DO THINGS AND THEY WALK UP.
I DID WANT TO MENTION ONE OTHER AMENITY THAT WE WANTED TO ADD TO POTENTIALLY REDUCE SOME TRAFFIC, INCREASE CONNECTIVITY. WE DO WANT TO ROLL OUT A TROLLEY SERVICE IN THE PROJECT TO GET PEOPLE FROM KIND OF WHERE THE NEW TOWERS BUILT DOWN BY THE LAKE AND WHERE THE RESTAURANTS ARE ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROJECT, ACROSS TO LAKESIDE, EAST TO LOS CAMINOS AND CREATE A ANOTHER FUN EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE TO COME TO LAKESIDE. THE KIDS WILL LOVE IT. WE'LL BRING IT OFF.
OFF THE PROJECT. IT'LL BE A LITTLE BIT OF A TOURIST ATTRACTION TO BRING THE PEOPLE FROM OUTSIDE FLOWER MOUND INTO LAKESIDE, BECAUSE PEOPLE WANT TO RIDE THE TROLLEY. SO THIS THIS HELPS.
THE CONNECTIVITY OF THE WHOLE PROJECT GETS PEOPLE ACROSS 24.99 WITHOUT HAVING TO WALK IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, OR EVEN GET IN THEIR CAR. SO I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT.
YEAH, THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ADDITION, BECAUSE THERE WERE SOME VERY VALID CONCERNS ABOUT PEDESTRIANS AND KIDS WHO WILL WANT TO BE KIDS AND MAYBE GO WHEN THEY'RE NOT TOLD THEY CAN GO. BUT I LIKE THIS IDEA A LOT. I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, THIS THIS PART OF THE PROJECT
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WHERE. SO THIS IS GOING TO SERVE THREE, FIVE, SEVEN MILE RADIUS OF PEOPLE. AND THERE'S ENOUGH DEMAND TO SUPPORT THIS DEVELOPMENT.WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN BY THE LAKE NEEDS TO SERVE A 2030 MILE RADIUS.
I'VE TALKED TO ALL OF YOU ABOUT THIS THAT THOSE RESTAURANTS ARE.
THE MOST EXPERIENTIAL ONLY PLACE IN DALLAS FORT WORTH TO GET LAKE VIEWS OUTDOOR DINING.
AND WE HAVE TO WE NEED THAT VOLUME TO SERVE THOSE RESTAURANTS.
MAYBE IT'S NOT NEEDED SO MUCH OVER HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF LOCAL BUSINESS, BUT DOWN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE A REASON FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND STAY AT THE HOTEL AND HOP ON THE TROLLEY AND TAKE IT OVER TO LAKESIDE EAST AND, AND HAVE LUNCH. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A FUN AMENITY.
SO I'LL WEIGH IN A LITTLE BIT. ONE OF THE SPEAKERS TALKED ABOUT SOUTH LAKE HAVING VIBRANCY AND, YOU KNOW, GREAT RESTAURANTS AND GOING TO THE SPA AND ALL THAT.
DESTINATION WHICH I AGREE YOU HAVE. ABSOLUTELY CREATED SOUTH LAKE DID IT WITHOUT APARTMENTS.
AND I MEAN, THAT HAS BEEN KIND OF THE STICKING POINT FOR ME ALL ALONG.
I LOVE EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE DONE. THE PLAN OPENING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING THE PATIOS, AS EVERYONE HAS SAID TOWARDS THE INSIDE REPRODUCING LOS CAMINOS, YOU KNOW, ALL ALL OF THAT IS IS WONDERFUL.
BUT I, I DRIVE THAT CORRIDOR ON MY WAY TO AND FROM WORK, AND IT WILL SLOW DOWN HAVING RESIDENTS COMING OUT TO THAT LIGHT AT AT LAKESIDE.
YOU KNOW, I'M ON 24.99 GOING SOUTH IN THE MORNING, AND EVERY TIME SOMEBODY COMES OUT AND HITS THAT LIGHT, WE ALL STOP. AND IT'S THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE COMING OUT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE EXITING THEIR APARTMENTS TO COMMUTE TO WORK, AS I'M SURE MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE WILL BE COMMUTING AND AND THEY WILL BE ADDING TO THE TRAFFIC THERE. IT'S HARD TO CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE OF THAT.
WHAT ABOUT THE IDEA OF ADDING AGAIN, WHICH WAS MENTIONED BEFORE MORE TOWNHOMES BECAUSE SOUTHLAKE DID IT WITHOUT APARTMENTS, BUT THEY ARE A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THERE AND THEY HAVE BEAUTIFUL TOWNHOMES.
AND SOUTHLAKE TOWN SQUARE HAS AN INTERSTATE HIGHWAY 114.
IT IT'S A BEAUTIFUL MALL WITHOUT A ROOF. THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
IT'S A REGIONAL MALL, A BEAUTIFUL ONE, A VERY WALKABLE ONE.
OUTDOORSY. I MEAN, IF IT'S RAINING, PROBABLY NOT DOING AS WELL AS THE GALLERIA OR NORTHPARK, BUT. WELL, JIMMY, THEY HAVE A HIGHWAY, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE A LAKE.
WELL, THEY HAVE A HIGHWAY, BUT THEY THE LAKE WORKS AGAINST US.
THERE'S NO PEOPLE IN THE LAKE. SOUTH LAKES, TOWN SQUARE.
IF YOU LOOK AROUND, YOU'VE GOT KELLER, ROANOKE TROPHY CLUB, GRAPEVINE, SOUTH LAKE, COLLIERVILLE, ALL THESE CITIES, SOUTH LAKES, JUST SUCKING ALL THAT SALES TAX MONEY INTO SOUTH LAKE FROM ALL THOSE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
AND WE DON'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT, OF THAT HERE.
AND. THE RESIDENTIAL ALLOWS ME TO DELIVER THIS.
WITHOUT THE RESIDENTIAL, I CAN'T DELIVER THIS.
IT WILL NOT THIS IS NOT WHAT IT WILL LOOK LIKE.
AND IF I GO I BOUGHT THE LAND THREE YEARS AGO AT C2 PRICES.
AND IF I TAKE THIS AND TURN IT INTO 40 OR 50 TOWNHOMES, THE MATH DOESN'T WORK.
I WISH IT WOULD BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T WORK AND IT WOULDN'T CREATE THE VIBRANCY THAT I NEED.
BUT THE FACTS OF THE MATTER, THE MONEY, IT JUST DOESN'T WORK.
MATT, I'D LIKE TO AND I JUST WANT TO I WANT TO ADD, I MEAN, MR. STEWART'S HERE SPEAKING TONIGHT, AND MR. STEWART IS NOT HIS FAMILY IS NOT AN OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY.
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IT WAS BOUGHT WITH THE IDEA THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS BECAUSE OF WHAT WE HAD DONE, BUT THEY DON'T CARE WHAT HOW THIS PROPERTY DEVELOPS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT DOES TO LAKESIDE, I DO, BUT I HAVE A FIDUCIARY DUTY TO THESE PEOPLE AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.ALL RIGHT. WELL I'LL GIVE YOU MY FEEDBACK, JIMMY. SO FIRST OF ALL, IF ANYBODY OUT THERE IS THINKING ABOUT RUNNING FOR COUNCIL OR HEARS ANYONE SAY THEY WANT TO RUN FOR COUNCIL, I ADVISE YOU TO HAVE THEM WATCH THIS MEETING, BECAUSE WE SPENT THE FIRST HALF OF THE MEETING WITH A VERY VALUABLE GROUP OF RESIDENTS TORCHING US BECAUSE THEY WERE MAD ABOUT A TWO ACRE MINIMUM DENSITY PROJECT THAT WE ARE LEGALLY OBLIGATED TO APPROVE.
AND I SAY WE. BUT IT WAS REALLY MOSTLY THE MAYOR AND ANNE.
BUT THEY WERE VERY UPSET ABOUT A TWO ACRE MINIMUM LOT SIZE DEVELOPMENT.
AND NOW WE HAVE AN EQUALLY VALUABLE AND IMPORTANT GROUP OF RESIDENTS THAT WANT MUCH HIGHER DENSITY.
AND MEANWHILE, THE LEGISLATURE IS TRYING TO TURN CHURCHES INTO APARTMENTS. AND THAT'S NOT A JOKE. THAT'S AN ACTUAL BILL. AND YOU KNOW, JIMMY, YOU'RE OUR BEST DEVELOPER. I HAVE A LOT OF CONFIDENCE THAT YOU CAN EXECUTE THIS VISION AND THAT IF THIS IS APPROVED, YOU WILL BE VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DELIVERING THIS PROJECT.
AND I HOPE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT, THEN THAT I'M HOPE, BECAUSE I'M NOT A DENY AND A DENY MOOD AND I'M NOT QUITE THERE YET ON THE APPROVAL SIDE EITHER. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION AND KEEP MOVING THE BALL DOWN THE FIELD A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AND SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO.
YOU HAVE LAKESIDE VILLAGE, WHICH HAS A VERY CLEAR IDENTITY.
YOU HAVE LAKESIDE WEST, WHICH HAS A VERY CLEAR IDENTITY OF RENTALS AND DENSITY.
AND NOW WE HAVE THIS AREA, LAKESIDE EAST. AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS SAID MORE OF THE SAME.
GOOD THING HE SAID MORE OF THE SAME. I'M NOT SURE MORE OF THE SAME IS THE RIGHT VISION FOR THIS.
AND I'M WITH GREAT HESITATION. AM I TRYING TO TELL YOU HOW TO DESIGN A PROJECT WHEN YOU'VE BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL IN DOING THAT? BUT WE HAVE THIS ROAD GOING THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS PROJECT THAT CUTS IT INTO HALF, AND IT DOESN'T.
IT ISN'T REALLY A UNIFIED PROJECT BECAUSE THERE'S NINE LANES THAT YOU HAVE TO GET ACROSS.
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE FOR A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT VISION.
WE HAD ANOTHER VERY LARGE RETAIL DEVELOPER COME IN, WANTED APARTMENTS.
WE WORKED WITH HIM. WE WE FOUND A RIGHT NUMBER OF TOWNHOMES HOMES AND OWNERSHIP BASED RESIDENTIAL THAT WORKED FOR HIM, AND HE'S MOVING FORWARD. I JUST FEEL LIKE IF WE WORK ON THAT VISION AND FIND A WAY TO DESIGN THIS PROJECT THAT IS MORE ORIENTED TOWARDS A ZERO LOT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A LOT OF THESE SAME OPTIONS, MAYBE LESS RETAIL AND OFFICE, MAYBE MORE RESIDENTIAL OVERALL, THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT WORK. AND I HOPE THAT THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE I, I THINK YOU'RE 80% OF THE WAY THERE, AND I'D HATE TO SEE US IN THIS CONVERSATION WITH 80% AND GIVE UP ON THE LAST 20%.
THANK YOU. I MEAN, I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE COUNCIL WANTS THIS TO BE A SUCCESSFUL PROJECT, BUT ONE THAT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF OF THE PEOPLE WHO PUT EVERYONE UP HERE.
SO, I MEAN, TO ME, I FEEL LIKE IT NEEDS TO BE TABLED TO, TO TRY TO EXECUTE MORE OF THE VISION OF WHAT EVERYBODY'S REPRESENTING UP HERE. AND WHAT YOUR, YOUR VISION IS YOU HAVE A GREAT VISION FOR THINGS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO, BUT I SUGGEST WE TABLE IT.
WELL, I JUST WANT TO HAVE A COMMENT ON ADAM'S FEEDBACK.
WE'RE WORRIED ABOUT TRAFFIC, AND I'M NOT SURE ADDING MORE RESIDENTIAL IS GOING TO HELP.
MAYBE IT WILL. IT DOES APPEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 50, 60% LESS THAN THE PROPOSED C2, SO THAT WOULD ACTUALLY HELP THAN THE EXISTING ZONING. AND SO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO LOOK AT WE'LL LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.
WHAT DO THE RESIDENTS WANT. THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE, WORK AND PLAY IN THIS AREA.
AS ANN MENTIONED 4 TO 1, 3 TO 1. YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY WANT THIS.
LAKESIDE HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL. YOU KNOW, THE THE NUMBER OF APARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT APARTMENTS, THAT'S A CONCERN. WE ALL I THINK WE ALL PREFER THE THE OWNER OR TO BE OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER. AND THEN ALSO THE DENSITY IS AN ISSUE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IN THIS AREA TAKING THE ALREADY APPROVED ENTITLEMENTS, MOVING IT OVER.
AND IT'S ONLY 300. I SAY ONLY, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL WE'RE NOT TALKING THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS.
WE'RE TALKING 300 RIGHT HERE. THAT HELPS REDUCE THE TRAFFIC IN AN ALREADY PROVEN DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD. THEN, YOU KNOW, WE BROADEN OUT THE LOOK AS TO.
OKAY, THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS WANT THIS. WELL, WHAT'S THE IMPACT ON THE REST OF THE TOWN? OBVIOUSLY YOU WENT THROUGH THE TAX REVENUE AND ALL THAT AND THAT'S ALL GREAT. BUT THEN THE OTHER ISSUE IS THE TRAFFIC. AND WE HEARD A LOT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.
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AND FROM WHAT WE HEARD TONIGHT, I THINK THAT THIS ACTUALLY IS THE LESSER OF TWO EVILS.SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, YOU KNOW, IF WE IF WE COULD WORK ON THE TOWNHOMES AND MAKE THOSE, YOU KNOW, FOR SALE, NOT FOR FOR RENT, AS ANN MENTIONED, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT IMPROVEMENT.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, I'M NOT SURE A LOT OF SWITCHING OUT IS THE RIGHT ANSWER HERE.
BUT I'M THAT'S JUST ONE VOICE, SO. MAYOR, COULD I INTERRUPT? I'M SORRY. OVER HERE. I JUST I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL.
I'LL BE PERFECTLY HONEST. I MEAN, EVEN IF JIMMY IS RESIGNED TO MAKING THOSE FEW TOWNHOMES, FOR INSTANCE OWNER OCCUPIED, THEY COULD BE PURCHASED BY A DEVELOPER AND PUT UP FOR RENT.
SO WE CAN'T INCLUDE A CONDITION IN THE ZONING THAT SAYS UNLESS YOU HAVE THE MONEY FOR A DOWN PAYMENT AND A MORTGAGE, ETC., YOU CAN'T LIVE HERE. SO I JUST WANT TO PASS THAT ALONG SO IT'S OKAY TO EXPRESS YOUR YOUR INTERESTS AND WISHES IN THAT REGARD, BUT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF THE ZONING.
WE CAN'T. BUT CAN'T AN HOA MAKE THAT STIPULATION OF THE PERCENTAGE OF LOTS THAT CAN BE FOR RENTAL? SO I THINK AND I DON'T REPRESENT HOA, BUT THAT'S THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YEAH, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO.
OKAY. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE SAID THAT THIS WAS SIMILAR TRAFFIC TO THE C-2 ZONING.
CORRECT? I MISUNDERSTAND THAT. YES. IT'S LESS IT'S THE THE C-2 IS A IS A HIGHER TRAFFIC GENERATOR, DEPENDING ON DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU CHOOSE AS YOUR LAND USE.
BUT YEAH. AND WE CAN ALWAYS RESTRICT THE AMOUNT OF USE IN GENERAL.
IT'S THE C-2 IS HIGHER THAN THE THIS AND HOW MUCH THE 5,060% NUMBERS DEPENDING.
LIKE I SAID, DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU PICK. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SOMETHING, BECAUSE I KNOW JIMMY HAD SAID THAT HE DID WORK WITH STAFF TO TO PROVIDE A DIFFERENT ALLOWANCE FOR THE TOWNHOMES.
BUT BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN HAVE SOME INPUT IN.
THANK YOU. AND. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO COMMENT ON ADAM'S THAT 20%. WE DID A LOT OF NEGOTIATING AGAINST OURSELVES BEFORE WE CAME HERE.
WE CHANGED THE PLAN. CHANGED THE PLAN? CHANGED THE PLAN.
WITH THE GOAL OF BRINGING A PLAN FORWARD THAT.
WOULD WORK AS PRESENTED AND DIDN'T LEAVE OURSELVES MUCH ROOM AGREEING TO SEPARATELY PLAT TEN TOWNHOME LOTS. THAT'S THOSE TYPE OF THINGS ARE ABSOLUTELY DOABLE.
AND I'M OPEN TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. CHANGING A 326 STRUCTURED PARKING APARTMENT COMMUNITY TO A TOWNHOME PROJECT IS A BIG JUMP. AND IF MR. CROSBY WOULD HAVE SOLD THE LAND 50% CHEAPER, I'D BE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL DAY LONG. I, I JUST WELL, ANYWAY, CAN WE.
BUT SO C-2 ZONING IS AN OPTION. THAT IS AN OPTION FOR ME, UNFORTUNATELY.
FORTUNATELY OR UNFORTUNATELY, HOWEVER YOU LOOK AT IT.
SO TABLING IT TO CONVERT APARTMENTS TO TOWNHOMES.
I DON'T THERE'S REALLY NOT A DISCUSSION THERE.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, YOU'VE GOT YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB WITH THE TOWER.
YOU'RE PUTTING THE HOTEL IN AND EVERYTHING. IT'S IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING OVER THERE.
HOWEVER, I REALLY WANT TO SEE HOW WE CAN LOOK AT THIS, DIVE A LITTLE DEEPER AND SEE WHERE WE CAN WORK TO GET WHAT THE RESIDENTS WANT. THE RESIDENTS WHO PUT EVERYBODY UP HERE.
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I JUST. THIS IS A BUSINESS. I MEAN, THIS IS. I GET IT REAL AND I GET IT.AND THESE INVESTORS. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK.
I MEAN, THERE'S STILL. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S STILL ROOM FOR DISCUSSION.
IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS. WE WILL DEVELOP THIS. YOU KNOW, WE WILL DEVELOP THIS AS C2.
I WALKED 1000 HOMES LAST SATURDAY MORNING. AND I DELIVERED FLIERS TO SHOW THEM WHAT USES WERE ALLOWED UNDER C2 ZONING. OKAY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT. OH, THE SIGNS WERE TOO DRAMATIC.
AND YOU'RE THREATENING? NO. TELL ME ONE USE IN THAT PHOTO THAT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER YOUR C2 ZONING.
AND WE DID THAT BECAUSE I WANTED ALL THOSE RESIDENTS TO KNOW IF THIS DOESN'T GET APPROVED, IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPED AS C2 ZONING. I MEAN, SO WE DIDN'T JUST WASTE HALF A SATURDAY WALKING THE HOMES OF THIS TOWN.
TO SCARE PEOPLE. COUNSEL, YOU HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION OR TABLE IT. I DON'T KNOW.
SO, JIM, YOU'RE OPEN TO SOME ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS. ABSOLUTELY.
BUT I DON'T HAVE MUCH TO GIVE. I JUST I'M JUST.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. WE JUST WE WANT THOSE DISCUSSIONS.
THAT'S. I'M JUST TO. I'M OPEN TO IT. OKAY. THEN WE NEED TO.
NO, NO. I'D LIKE TO TRY TO SET SOME EXPECTATIONS REASONABLY FOR WHAT YOU HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH.
WHAT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME? LIKE A COUPLE OF WEEKS OR A MONTH OR WHAT ARE YOU THINKING? THE NEXT? I JUST NEED SOME IDEAS FROM YOU GUYS AND THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
OKAY, I DON'T HAVE TIME. I APPRECIATE THAT. NOT ON MY SIDE.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING UP AND BEING COLLABORATIVE AS MUCH AS YOU CAN, BECAUSE I REALLY DO THINK YOU'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO MAKE A LOT OF CHANGES FROM WHEN WE FIRST TALKED, AND THAT'S NOT LOST ON ME. THANK YOU.
ADAM, DO YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A FURTHER DISCUSSION WITH JIMMY TO DETERMINE HERE'S WHAT THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT US TO HAVE FRAGMENTED MESSAGING TO THE APPLICANT AND THEN HIM COME BACK AND HAVE THIS WASH, RINSE AND REPEAT. I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN CLARITY FROM THE COUNCIL TONIGHT ON WHAT EVERYONE IS THINKING.
SO I MEAN, OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE APRIL 21ST, BUT THE DIRECTION I'VE GOTTEN IS NOT FEASIBLE.
I'M NOT 100% COMMITTED TO ALL TOWNHOMES, SO I AM OPEN.
I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, AND I'D LIKE TO HEAR HOW MANY YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO REDUCE THE RENTAL UNITS TO ADD, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO 100% TOWNHOMES.
DOES THAT HELP? YES. SORRY. SORRY IT'S GETTING LATE.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING IS APRIL 20TH. YEAH. APRIL 21ST.
IS THAT ENOUGH TIME TO TABLE? WE CAN TABLE. WE TABLE IT TO A DATE.
UNCERTAIN. DOES THAT GIVE JIMMY A TIME, AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET AND THEN ASK TO BE BACK ON A MEETING.
OKAY, SO DOES APRIL 21ST SOUND GOOD? YES. AND I THINK WE CAN.
YES, WE. I THINK WE CAN DO THAT. OKAY. SO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING TO KEEP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO NOTICE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. YOU'VE YOU'VE HELD THE STATUTORILY REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING SO WE WOULDN'T NEED TO NOTICE THEM.
I KNOW THE TRADITION IS TO ALWAYS STILL POST IT AS A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO THAT THAT'S THAT'S CERTAINLY FINE, BUT NO ADDITIONAL NOTICE IS REQUIRED.
AND TWO MOTIONS YOU CAN THIS IS JUST TABLING.
SO YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THOSE ITEMS IN A SINGLE MOTION.
OKAY I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE REGULAR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE UNTIL DATE REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT.
SECOND THERESA YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLE. COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.
AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.
AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO SCHIESTEL. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.
WARNER. AYE. OKAY. ITEMS. SORRY. K FOUR AND FIVE IS TABLED UNTIL APRIL 21ST.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE LAST ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
[K.3. MPA25-0001 - Furst Ranch Thoroughfare Plan Amendment - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for a Master Plan Amendment (MPA25-0001 – Furst Ranch Thoroughfare Plan Amendment) to amend Section 7.0 - Thoroughfare Plan to change the classification from Mixed-Use (MU) Arterial to Urban Minor Arterial for the first MU Arterial street located east of the intersection of Cross Timbers Road (FM 1171) and U.S. Highway (US) 377 north to the roundabout and the MU Arterial street located north of the intersection of Cross Timbers Road (FM 1171) and US 377 east to the roundabout. The property is generally located in the northeast quadrant of Cross Timbers Road and US 377. (Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at their March 24, 2025, meeting.) (Transportation Commission recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 1 at their March 11, 2025, meeting.)]
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IT'S ITEM K3 MPA 25 0001 FIRST FIRST RANCH THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT.AND THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU ALL FOR WAITING AND BEING HERE TONIGHT.
ARE. YOU READY? I'M READY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.
MAYOR, COUNCIL, THIS IS MPA 25 0001. FIRST RANCH THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SOME OF THE DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS FOR THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN RECOMMENDATION.
AND THEN THE APPLICANT IS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE A PRESENTATION OR NOT.
SO I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THE FIRST RANCH IS, THAT WHERE THE TWO ARROWS ARE POINTING ARE THE TWO SEGMENTS OF THE MIXED USE ARTERIAL THAT'S LOOKING TO BE CHANGED. SO THIS IS THE LATEST APPROVED THOROUGHFARE PLAN FROM APRIL 1ST.
SO IT DID MEET SMART GROWTH FOR THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IN THE MIXED USE AREA.
SO IT IS A MIXED USE ARTERIAL. IT'S A IT'S 100 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY.
THERE'S FOUR LANES, MEANING THERE WERE TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION AND IT HAD ON STREET PARKING.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT CHANGING IT TO IS AN URBAN MINOR ARTERIAL.
SO IT'S A STILL A FOUR LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY, TWO LANES IN EACH DIRECTION.
IT'S ONLY 90FT OF RIGHT OF WAY. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT SMALLER RIGHT OF WAY.
BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT THERE'S NO ON STREET PARKING.
OR DO THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AS IS IS AN ALTERNATIVE.
SO HERE IS THE UPDATED MAP. WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
THOSE TWO SEGMENTS WOULD BE GREEN INSTEAD OF THAT PINK MAGENTA COLOR.
AND LIKE I SAID THOSE IT WOULD STILL BE THE FOUR LANE LIKE IT USED TO BE.
HE WAS CONCERNED THAT IF YOU REDUCE THE RIGHT OF WAY, THAT IF YOU NEEDED IT IN THE FUTURE, THAT YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND PURCHASE IT AGAIN.
AND OF COURSE, THAT'S TRUE IF THAT WAS THE CASE.
NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT IS THIS ROADWAY IS ONLY ABOUT A QUARTER MILE LONG, AND IT ENDS IN A ROUNDABOUT WHEN YOU GO INTERIOR TO THE PROJECT, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY LANES THE ROUNDABOUT ENDS UP, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A THREE LANE HUGE ROUNDABOUT AT THE END.
SO IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING SMALLER THAN THREE LANES. SO IF YOU DID TRY TO MAKE IT THREE LANES, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHRINK THOSE DOWN. AND IF WE DO WHAT OUR STANDARD IS AS A SINGLE LANE ROUNDABOUT, YOU'RE ALMOST GOING TO EAT UP. GOING INTO THE DEVELOPMENT, YOU'RE GOING TO ALMOST EAT UP ALL THOSE EXTRA LANES COMING OUT.
YOU WOULD HAVE IT, BUT GOING IN YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD LOSE MOST OF IT.
ONE OF THE OTHER COMMENTS WAS WE TALK ABOUT FRICTION WHEN CARS BACK IN AND OUT.
THERE'S A THERE'S A FRICTION THERE THAT CAUSES TRAFFIC TO SLOW DOWN.
BUT IT ALSO REDUCES THE CAPACITY. SO THAT'S THE ONE.
COMMISSIONER FELT IT WOULD BE SAFER IF WE GOT RID OF THE PARKING.
THE OTHER WAS A KIND OF A GENERAL COMMENT ACROSS THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSIONS.
THEY WERE CONCERNED WHERE PATRONS ARE GOING TO PARK. IF WE'RE GETTING RID OF THIS ON STREET PARKING NOW, WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN? WELL, THOSE THOSE SITES THAT ARE THERE ADJACENT TO THE THIS SEGMENTS OF ROADWAY, THEIR SITE PLANS WOULD BE JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TRADITIONAL SITE PLAN WHERE ALL THEIR OFF STREET PARKING WOULD BE CONTAINED ON THEIR SITE INSTEAD OF ON STREET PARKING.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, MAYBE BECAUSE IT WAS REALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING, I DON'T KNOW. BUT THEY DID TALK ABOUT ASKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALK.
THE URBAN MINOR ARTERIAL SIDEWALK IS A FOUR FOOT CROSS SECTION.
THE DEVELOPMENT PLANS TO PUT IN A SIX FOOT. THE FOUR FOOT IS JUST A MINIMUM IN OUR CROSS SECTION.
SO THE SIX FOOT IS IS OKAY. WITH THAT, WE WE WENT TO THE BOTH OF THOSE COMMISSIONS IN MARCH, AND THEN WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. AND THIS IS JUST A REPEAT OF WHAT THE CAPTION IS.
MATT, CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE MAP? OH, OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE ROUNDABOUT PART.
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SO THEY'RE GOING TO COME IN, ARE WE. WHICH SECTION WAS IT THAT TERMINATED IN A ROUNDABOUT RIGHT HERE.OKAY. IS THIS THIS IS THE CURRENT THOROUGHFARE PLAN.
AND THEN THE NEW ONE GETS RID OF THESE RANDOM.
I MEAN DEPENDING ON WHAT'S THERE IT COULD BE A MULTI LANE ROUNDABOUT THAT HASN'T 100.
I DON'T KNOW. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IF YOU DRIVE OVER IN EUROPE YOU GET USED TO IT.
BUT I DO KIND OF WONDER WHAT KIND OF CHAOS THAT WOULD RESULT IN.
NO, IT SEEMS LIKE IT MAKES SENSE THAT IT WOULD SKINNY DOWN INTO ONE. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A PICTURE OF A SENSE OF HOW THIS IS GOING TO FLOW AND ARE WE HAVE DO WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE QUITE LIKE THIS? LIKE A FOUR LANE DIVIDED INTO A ROUNDABOUT? WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THAT. JIM CHAPPELL IS YOUR BEST WAY TO CHEN CHAPPELL.
KIND OF NOT EXACTLY THE SAME, BUT JIM CHAPPELL.
DIXON. YEAH, IS THE SAME WAY. DIXON NARROWS DOWN TO ONE AND CHAPPELL NARROWS DOWN TO ONE.
IT'S VERY STRANGE. IT SEEMS KIND OF UNNECESSARY TO HAVE THAT SECOND LANE.
WHAT'S THE WHY? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE TWO LANES FOR THE SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO ROUNDABOUTS? IT REALLY IT JUST REALLY ALLOWS PEOPLE TO PASS IF THERE'S A SLOWER VEHICLE.
OKAY. BUT NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING HERE, RIGHT? WE'RE JUST TAKING REMOVING THE ON STREET PARKING.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S CHANGED OKAY. NO, THE PART OF THE RATIONALE WAS THAT WHAT DO YOU NEED THIS EXTRA RIGHT OF WAY FOR IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SKINNY DOWN TO ONE LANE. ANYWAY, I WAS JUST TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF IT. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THIS IF IF JACK DOESN'T THINK YOU NEED PARKING ON THIS STREET.
AND WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE PART, THE ONE OFF 1171 AND THE ONE OFF.
377. RIGHT. JUST THE TWO LITTLE GAPS. OKAY. SMALL SECTION RIGHT HERE AND THE SMALL SECTION HERE.
OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT IT.
YOU'RE GOING THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO BE DENSE. YOU WANT TRAFFIC TO GO SLOWER AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BUILDINGS RIGHT UP AGAINST IT. SO THAT'S WHERE YOU WANT YOUR ON STREET OKAY. ALL RIGHT. YEAH THAT'S FINE. THANK YOU.
SO JUST A GENERAL QUESTION. THE ETJ AREA, DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATES OF WHAT THE DENSITY IS FOR THAT AREA AND HOW WE'RE INCLUDING THAT INTO OUR OUR MODELS? WHEN FIRST RANCH CAME IN, THEY LOOKED AT EVERYTHING.
AND YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY IF YOU LOOK AT OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN MAP, WE HAD THOSE.
THE RURAL GREENWAY, RURAL ARTERIAL CONNECTING IN THERE.
AND THEN AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THAT'S THE PLAN.
YEAH. MY UNDERSTANDING IS VERY LOW DENSITY UP THERE.
OKAY. OKAY. CAN WE CONFIRM THAT? I MEAN, I'M JUST CONCERNED WITH SOME OF THE.
I MEAN, I'M SURE WE CAN I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE A WHOLE LOT OF DIFFERENCE ON THESE.
YEAH, I KIND OF THINK THESE ARE INDIRECT AND, WELL, MAYBE THE, THE, THE WESTERN ONE, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE I WOULD VENTURE TO SAY THAT MOST LIKELY ANYONE THEY'RE ON THE NORTH END IS GOING TO GO OUT AND CONNECT INTO CANYON FALLS INSTEAD OF COMING THROUGH THAT ROUNDABOUT TO COME DOWN TO THIS ROUNDABOUT TO GET OUT. YEAH. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER WAY OUT OF HERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO EXIT THROUGH BARTONVILLE.
CORRECT. SO THESE THREE ARE THE MAIN EXITS TO THAT COMMUNITY OR AREA.
IT'S JUST A CONCERN I HAVE. I'M SURE WE CAN CONFIRM IT.
LIKE I SAID, I'M PRETTY SURE IT'S LOW DENSITY.
OKAY. YEAH, THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN. ALL RIGHT, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.
OH. PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S GETTING LATE. ALL RIGHT. WRONG MICROPHONE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM K THREE.
SO AT THIS TIME, DO WE I'M OPENING THIS FOR FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.
DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS? OKAY. DOES ANYBODY IN THIS BIG CROWD WANT TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? EVERYBODY LAUGHED. OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THIS COUNSEL, DO YOU NEED TO DELIBERATE, OR DOES I HEAR WHAT ADAM HAS TO SAY? ALL RIGHT, I'LL MOVE. APPROVAL OF NPPA 20 5-1 FIRST FRANCE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT.
SECOND. OKAY. THERESA. CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW.
AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.
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AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER. WARNER. AYE. OKAY. ITEM K THREE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.GUYS, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR STAYING. I HAD TO MOVE THE AGENDA AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
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