Mar 17, 2025 Town Council Archive

[*Portions of this meeting are without audio]

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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SHALL WE PRAY? OUR LORD, WE COME TONIGHT AS WE BEGIN THIS MEETING TO ASK YOUR PRESENCE.

ASK YOUR WISDOM. ASK YOUR LEADERSHIP. WE DO PRAY FOR THOSE THAT LEAD OUR TOWN AND THOSE THAT SERVE OUR TOWN.

FROM THE WORKERS TO THE PUBLIC SERVANTS. FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE PART OF THIS GREAT COMMUNITY.

WE PRAY THAT YOU'D GUIDE US AND LEAD US TONIGHT AND MAY PEACE, REIGN, AND FATHER, ON THIS SAINT PATRICK'S DAY, THAT WE CELEBRATE THE IRISH HERITAGE THAT SOME OF US ENJOY.

WE GIVE YOU THANKS AND WE CLOSE OUR PRAYER TONIGHT WITH THE OLD IRISH BLESSING.

MAY THE ROAD RISE TO MEET YOU. MAY THE WIND BE ALWAYS AT YOUR BACK.

MAY THE SUN SHINE WARM UPON YOUR FACE. AND THE RAIN FALL SOFT UPON YOUR FIELDS.

AND UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN. MAY GOD HOLD YOU IN THE HOLLOW OF HIS HANDS.

AMEN. AMEN. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A SPECIAL GROUP HERE TODAY. WE HAVE THE WEBELOS TROOP.

IF I CAN. THE WEBELOS CUB SCOUT TROOP THREE. IF I CAN SEE, I CAN'T SEE TONIGHT, 392.

THEY ARE GOING TO PRESENT THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD.

I SHOULD PUT MY READING GLASSES ON. THAT WOULD HELP.

OKAY, SO WE'LL DO THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THEN THE TEXT AND THEN THE PLEDGE TO THE TEXAS FLAG.

GO UP TO THE MIC. ARE WE READY? READY. ALL RIGHT.

ARE YOU READY? GO.

OKAY. WE HAVE A BIG GROUP HERE TONIGHT. WELL, I WANT TO LET YOU ALL KNOW SERENITY GENTRY WAS HERE ALL DAY.

SHE WAS ALL OVER TOWN. YOU MAY HAVE SEEN HER.

THE FIRE TRUCK PICKED HER UP FROM SCHOOL RIGHT.

AND SHE'S HAD QUITE THE DAY WITH THE POLICE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE PUBLIC LIBRARY, OUR TOWN SECRETARY, EVERYBODY'S. SHE'S BEEN WITH EVERYONE. AND THANK YOU FOR DOING THAT FOR US AND REPRESENTING THE TOWN TODAY.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY HI? NO. BYE. BYE, BYE. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ALONG TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[D. PUBLIC COMMENT]

JUST AS A REMINDER WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT, YOU'LL HEAR A SOUND, BUT YOU STILL HAVE 30S TO SPEAK, SO. AND THEN JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS PAT WHELAN. I'M AT 140 FOREST PARK DRIVE, DOUBLE OAK, TEXAS.

I'M THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THE TOWN OF DOUBLE OAK.

AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE COUNCIL AND CITIZENS OF DOUBLE OAK.

DOUBLE OAK IS A SMALL TOWN OF APPROXIMATELY 1000 HOMES ON HOME SITES OF ONE ACRE OR MORE.

IT'S LOCATED ON THE NORTHERN BORDER OF FLOWER MOUND, BETWEEN CHAPEL AND SHILOH.

SO EDEN RANCH BORDERS OUR TOWN ON OUR WEST SIDE.

THE HOMES ARE SMALLER HOME SITES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CLUSTERED NEAR DOUBLE OAK.

WE OPPOSE THE INCREASED HOUSING DENSITY THAT IS PART OF THIS PLAN, AND WE ALSO OPPOSE HAVING AN EGRESS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT TIED TO KING'S ROAD.

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THAT HIGHER DENSITY AND AN EXIT ACROSS FROM KING'S ROAD WILL HAVE ON OUR TOWN.

SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND OUR CONCERN, I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT YOUR RESIDENCE STREET YOU LIVE ON.

IT'S PROBABLY TWO LANES AND HAS DRIVEWAYS AND WALKWAYS TO THE STREET.

NOW PICTURE A NEW DEVELOPMENT OF 194 HOMES AT THE END OF YOUR STREET, WITH AN EXIT FROM THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTLY TIED TO YOUR RESIDENTIAL STREET.

THAT IS WHAT EDEN RANCH PROPOSES AT KING'S ROAD.

RESIDENTS OF THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL BE TEMPTED TO TAKE KING'S ROAD AS A SHORTCUT TO BUSINESSES ON 407 AND 24.99, ESPECIALLY IF IT IS A DIRECT ROUTE THAT THEY THAT WHEN THEY LEAVE THEIR SUBDIVISION.

HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT THE INCREASED TRAFFIC THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BRING TO YOUR RESIDENTIAL STREET, THE STREET THAT YOU LIVE ON? WE ARE NOT AGAINST THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY.

WE KNOW IT IS INEVITABLE. WHAT WE ARE ASKING IS THAT THE DEVELOPER ELIMINATE THE KING ROAD EXIT AND ONLY HAVE THE REMAINING EXIT ON SHILOH, WHICH IS CLOSER TO 1171. WHILE WE KNOW THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THIS DEVELOPMENT WILL STILL SEE OUR TOWN AS A GREAT CUT THROUGH AND COME DOWN OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS CHANGE, ALONG WITH HOLDING MORE CLOSELY TO THE ORIGINAL DENSITY PLANS FOR THIS PROPERTY, WILL REDUCE THE TRAFFIC THROUGH DOUBLE OAK. WE STAND WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IN OPPOSITION TO SENATE BILL 15 AND HOUSE BILL 878 AND OTHER PROPOSED LEGISLATION THAT WOULD LIMIT YOUR TOWN AND OUR TOWN FROM CHOOSING ITS OWN DESTINY WHEN IT COMES TO REGULATING THE SIZE OF HOME SITES AND THE BUILDINGS THAT CAN BE PUT ON THOSE SITES. WE HOPE THAT THE FLOWER MOUND TOWN COUNCIL WILL STAND WITH DOUBLE OAK AND MAKE THE NECESSARY CHANGES TO HELP US LIMIT THE IMPACT OF EDEN RANCH DEVELOPMENT ON OUR ROADS, OUR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE CITIZENS WHO LIVE ALONG KINGS ROAD.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE MARSHA GAVITT.

MARSHA GAVITT, 6501 MEADOWCREST LANE. I LIVE THREE BLOCKS SOUTH OF THE EDEN PROPOSAL.

IN 2022, AFTER LENGTHY PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, YOU ELIMINATED THE HALF ACRE CLUSTER AND RESTORED PROTECTIONS TO THE CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IN 2024. YOU APPROVED THE FIRST DEVELOPMENT UNDER THAT ORDINANCE.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THIS CONCEPT USES THAT ELIMINATED ORDINANCE AND DEVIATES SIGNIFICANTLY FROM A LONG STATED GOALS FOR THE DISTRICT.

THE GOALS ARE ALSO STATED IN THE LAND USE PLAN, BUT EVEN THE OLD CLUSTERS DID NOT HAVE MIXED USES, MASONRY WALLS OR SIGNIFICANT DEVIATIONS. HERE, THE NONRESIDENTIAL MIXED USES FOR COMMERCIAL AND OTHER ACTIVITIES ARE NO LONGER SHOWN, BUT AGRICULTURAL AREAS ARE. CLARITY IS IMPORTANT REGARDING MIXED USE POTENTIAL REGARDING WILDLIFE AND MASONRY WALLS. LAST WEDNESDAY, MARCH. WHAT IS THAT? LAST WEDNESDAY AT 7:30 A.M., I SAW SEVEN DEER RUNNING ACROSS A WICHITA TRAIL PORTION OF GRASS ALONG A MASONRY WALL LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO ESCAPE.

FORTUNATELY, THEY FOUND A LITTLE OPENING AND AVOIDED RUNNING IN FRONT OF THE CARS.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE BAILEY BRYANT? HELLO, I'M BAILEY BRYANT. I'M ACTUALLY THE PASTOR OF SHILOH CHURCH.

DID YOU NEED SOMETHING? I WAS GOING TO SAY, DON'T FORGET TO SAY YOUR ADDRESS.

YES. 6500 CROSS TIMBERS ROAD, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

THAT'S THE CHURCH ADDRESS. I AM THE SENIOR PASTOR OF THAT CHURCH.

I'VE BEEN THERE FOR THE CHURCH HAS BEEN THERE FOR 157 YEARS, BEFORE OR BEFORE FLOWER MOUND EVEN EXISTED.

AND I'VE BEEN ON STAFF SINCE 2019. SO I'VE SEEN SOME OF THE OTHER DEVELOPERS COMING IN WITH CUMMINGS RANCH AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND JUST FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, HAVING TYLER AND JULIA AS OUR NEIGHBORS, THEY'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

MET WITH THEM, HAD DINNER WITH THEM. THEY'VE COME TO CHURCH SEVERAL TIMES.

WE ARE 1,000% IN SUPPORT OF THIS. OBVIOUSLY WE LOVE FLOWER MOUND.

WE LOVE PEOPLE IN FLOWER MOUND. AND SO WE'RE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT.

WE LOVE THE TREES AND ALL THE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN.

I THINK THEY'RE, IF YOU LOOK LIKE SOME OVER A THOUSAND TREES THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO BRING TO OUR TOWN, WHICH IS LOVELY. I LOVE THE TREES ON OUR PROPERTY ARE I MEAN, I CAN'T PUT 2 OR 3 PEOPLE AROUND THEM,

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WE KNOW THE PROPERTY IS GOING TO GET DEVELOPED ANYWAYS, BUT THIS IS LIKE SO MUCH BETTER THAN ANYTHING THAT'S EVER BEEN PROPOSED.

SO, WE'RE DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. AND EXCITED FOR IT.

SO, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE GINGER BRITTON.

MAYOR, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS GINGER BRITTAIN. I LIVE AT 35 KING'S ROAD, DOUBLE OAK, TEXAS.

I HAVE A LITTLE MAP IF YOU WOULD LIKE A VISUAL AT SOME POINT TO SEE EXACTLY WHERE WE'RE LOCATED.

AND YOU MAY BE WONDERING WHY SOMEONE FROM DOUBLE OAK IS HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU ABOUT THE EDEN DEVELOPMENT.

LET ME GIVE YOU A COUPLE OF QUICK HINTS TO WHY I'M HERE.

MY HUSBAND'S GRANDPARENTS CAME TO THIS AREA IN THE EARLY 60S, AFTER THE EXPANSION OF HIGHWAY 183, LOOP 12 WHERE DARK [INAUDIBLE] AND OLD TEXAS STADIUM CORRIDOR ARE LOCATED BOUGHT OUT THEIR LAND ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS 50 YEARS AGO IN MAY 2024. MY HUSBAND'S GRANDFATHER, BILL BRITTON, FOUNDED DOUBLE OAK IN 1974.

AS YOU CAN SEE, THE BRITTON FAMILY HAS A VESTED INTEREST AND CONCERN IN THE SURROUNDING AREAS DEVELOPMENT.

WE HAVE ATTENDED SEVERAL MEETINGS HOSTED BY THE EDEN DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND ARE SUPPORTIVE OF THE FARM TO FAMILY LIFESTYLE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT PRESENTS TO ITS RESIDENTS.

THEIR INVITATION EXTENDED US AND OTHERS HAS SHOWN TO CONSIDERATION BY EDEN OF THE WANTS AND NEEDS OF CURRENT LANDOWNERS AND THE IMPACT THE DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE ON THEM.

WE FEEL THIS DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT WOULD CONTINUE TO MAINTAIN THE RURAL FEEL OF THE AREA ALONG GREEN SPACE CONSERVATION AND WILDLIFE PRESERVATION.

WE ARE PARTICULARLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL PLANTING OF TREES SURROUNDING THE PERIMETERS OF SHILOH TO HAWK MCMAKEN INTERSECTION.

AS IT WILL BE DISCUSSED, THIS WOULD OFFER A BUFFER FOR TRAFFIC NOISE, MORE PRIVACY TO RESIDENTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND RESIDENTS ALONG WITH ENVIRONMENTAL VALUE.

IN ADDITION, I'D LIKE TO MENTION ANOTHER POSITIVE TO THIS PLANTING THAT PERHAPS YOU HAVEN'T THOUGHT ABOUT WITH THE ADDITIONAL PLANTINGS OF THESE TREES AND FOLIAGE BRINGS OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE CHILDREN IN THIS RESIDENT TO DEVELOP AND EXPLORE, LEARN, PLAY AND GROW IN A NATURE FILLED ENVIRONMENT. OPPORTUNITIES TO BE OUTSIDE PLAYING, GETTING THEIR HANDS DIRTY AND RATHER THAN BEING IN FRONT OF A TV, COMPUTER OR PHONE SCREEN. AS YOU REVIEW THIS AND OTHER DEVELOPMENTS, YOU AS MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A LASTING DIFFERENCE FOR THE FUTURE OF FLOWER MOUND AND ITS SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES WITH YOUR DECISIONS.

A LEGACY TO LEAVE OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS. I ASK YOU TO CONSIDER CAREFULLY THE REQUEST OF THIS EDEN DEVELOPMENT AND THE POSITIVE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON THE FUTURE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE HAVE QUINT REDMOND.

OH, I'M FOR THE DEVELOPER. I'M SORRY. OH, YOU HAVE TO COME FORWARD TO SPEAK.

I DON'T HAVE A I DON'T HAVE A THREE MINUTE. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE DEVELOPER.

OH, OKAY. OH, OKAY. I'M SORRY. NO, THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

SORRY. OKAY. GEORGIANA BUSTOS. YEAH. HELLO. MY NAME IS REGINA BUSTOS, AND I LIVE AT 5309 YEAGER DRIVE.

AND THE HANDOUT YOU GUYS HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU WILL GIVE YOU MORE DETAIL ABOUT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT. SO TONIGHT, I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THE URGENT THREAT, UNDERFUNDING OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS POSES ON THE COMMUNITY AND WHY OUR TOWN COUNCILS MUST PUSH OUR LEGISLATORS TO ACT BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

OUR SCHOOLS ARE IN A CRISIS, AND WITHOUT ACTION, THE IMPACT WILL RIPPLE THROUGH OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITIES.

DESPITE A 26% RISE IN INFLATION SINCE 2019, THE PER STUDENT BASIC ALLOTMENT IN TEXAS REMAINS FROZEN AT $6,160.

MEANWHILE, TEXAS SITS ON A $21 BILLION EDUCATION SURPLUS, AND EACH YEAR, BILLIONS IN RECAPTURE FUNDS ARE REDIRECTED TO THE GENERAL FUND INSTEAD OF EDUCATION. RESTORING 2019 FUNDING LEVELS WOULD JUST COST $9.3 BILLION, A FRACTION OF WHAT'S AVAILABLE.

HERE'S WHAT OUR SCHOOLS NEED. THEY NEED TO INCREASE THE PERSONNEL ALLOTMENT BY $1,600 AND TIE IT TO INFLATION.

FUND SCHOOLS BASED ON ENROLLMENT, NOT ATTENDANCE, AND ENSURE ALL RECAPTURE FUNDS GO BACK TO EDUCATION AND NOT THE GENERAL FUND.

REJECT VOUCHERS THAT DRAIN PUBLIC RESOURCES. RIGHT NOW, 73% OF TEXAS SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE UNDERFUNDED, WITH 17% OPERATING AT A 40% FUNDING GAP. IMAGINE TRYING TO RUN YOUR HOUSEHOLD WITH 40% LESS INCOME THAN WHAT YOU NEED.

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THESE ARE TOUGH CHOICES, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT OUR DISTRICTS ARE FACING.

LOCALLY, LEWISVILLE ISD IS SPENDING $22,000,000 IN DEFICIT.

DENTON IS 24, FRISCO IS 31. AND THAT'S ALMOST $80 MILLION IN SOME OF THE TOP THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN TEXAS.

DALLAS ISD IS $186 MILLION DEFICIT. WHEN SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE UNDERFUNDED, THEY ARE FORCED TO CLOSE SCHOOLS, CUTTING JOBS AND DESTABILIZING NEIGHBORHOODS, REDUCE ACADEMIC PROGRAMS, HURTING STUDENT OUTCOMES.

IT PUSHES TEACHERS OUT BECAUSE 70% OF OUR TEACHERS IN TEXAS ARE UNSURE IF THEY CAN AFFORD TO RETURN.

THIS IS JUST THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT EDUCATION.

IT'S ABOUT OUR CITY'S FUTURE. UNDERFUNDED SCHOOLS LEAD TO LOWER PROPERTY VALUES, SHRINKING THE CITY'S TAX BASE AND REDUCING FUNDING FOR ROADS, PARKS AND ESSENTIAL SERVICES. COMMUNITY REINVESTMENTS DECLINE, WEAKENING THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE.

CAREER OPPORTUNITIES SHRINK, LEAVING STUDENTS WITH FEWER PATHWAYS TO SUCCESS.

BECAUSE INDUSTRIES INVEST IN AREAS WITH AN EDUCATED WORKFORCE.

SMALL BUSINESSES CLOSED DUE TO SHRINKING LOCAL ECONOMY AND HIGHER CRIME RATES AS ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES DISAPPEAR.

AND WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO SEE THE IMPACT.

LEWISVILLE ISD IS CLOSED FIVE SCHOOLS, PLANO IS CLOSED FOUR AND MORE AREAS ARE CONSIDERING CLOSING SCHOOLS.

DENTON HAS A BRAND NEW SCHOOL THAT THEY STILL HAVE NO STUDENTS IN.

FRISCO IS PHASING OUT THE HEART PROGRAM AND DISTRICTS ARE MOVING TO FOUR DAY SCHOOL WEEKS.

IF WE DON'T ACT NOW, THE COST OF FIXING THE CRISIS LATER WILL BE FAR GREATER BECAUSE FAMILIES DON'T MOVE TO A CITY FOR THE HOPE OF A VOUCHER.

THEY MOVE FOR GREAT SCHOOLS, FAMILY FRIENDLY COMMUNITIES AND OPPORTUNITY.

I URGE EACH OF YOU TO CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS OR OURS, AND DEMAND AN INCREASE IN THE BASIC ALLOTMENT BY $1,600 AND TIE IT TO INFLATION.

OUR SCHOOLS AND CITIES CANNOT WAIT ANOTHER TWO YEARS, AND IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING NOW, THAT'S HOW LONG IT'S GOING TO TAKE BEFORE WE CAN ADDRESS THEM AGAIN. THANK YOU. GOOD. THANK YOU. WITH BRETT CHANCE.

I'M BRETT CHANCE. I LIVE AT 3709 OLD MILL DRIVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE EDEN RANCH DEVELOPMENT.

AS TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ARE FACED WITH A LARGE RESPONSIBILITY TO OVERSEE THE TOWN'S GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE TOWN'S NEEDS AND WANTS IN AN EVER CHANGING LANDSCAPE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

ALL OF THE TOWNS OF NORTH TEXAS ARE FACED WITH SUCH A HIGH RATE OF GROWTH, WITH OVER 400 PEOPLE A DAY CALLING DFW HOME, AND OUT OF THAT, AROUND 100 OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING DENTON COUNTY HOME FROM THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

IT'S A FACT THAT WE CANNOT STOP THE GROWTH. THIS LEAVES THE QUESTION IS HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A SMART, BENEFICIAL WAY THAT KEEPS A SPECIAL FEEL AND UNIQUENESS OF FLOWER MOUND THAT WE ALL LOVE AND CHOOSE TO KEEP? I DO BELIEVE EDEN RANCH IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT TO ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS KEEPING WITH THE SPECIAL FEEL THAT WE'RE ALL WANTING.

TO ALLOW THIS GROWTH WILL KEEP FLOWER MOUND LOOKING AND FEELING NOT JUST LIKE ANOTHER SUBURB OF DFW.

AFTER LOOKING ALL OVER THE DFW METROPLEX, I DO NOT KNOW OF ANOTHER DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL LEAVE SUCH THAT WILL HAVE LARGE LOT SIZES OF FAMILY FARM USE AND PROMOTE MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING. THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE FEEL AND LOOK THAT IS CURRENTLY BEING DESIRED.

AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME CONSIDERING THIS AND ALSO ASKING THE COUNCIL TO APPROVE ALL THE REQUESTED AMENDMENTS THAT EDEN RANCH IS REQUESTING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE FRED VINCENT.

FRED VINCENT, 3933 BORDEAUX CIRCLE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MOORE, THANK YOU, COUNCIL. THANK YOU.

STAFF. TONIGHT I'M HERE WITH AN ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE.

GRATITUDE FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS AND OUR GOVERNMENT THAT WENT DOWN TO AUSTIN, TEXAS, TO STAND UP FOR OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND OUR WAY OF LIFE.

I ALSO HAVE GRATITUDE FOR THE DEVELOPER AND OWNER OF THE EDEN RANCH.

WHERE HAVE WE SEEN A OWNER PROPERTY OWNER MAKING HIS PERMANENT HOME HIS FAMILY ON THE PROPERTY? NOT OUT OF STATE. CUSTOM HOMES, LOCAL BUILDERS, LOCAL REAL ESTATE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE TALK ABOUT CLUSTER. WELL, IT'S A CLUSTER OF TREES AND GREENERY AND OXYGEN RICH ATMOSPHERE AND LONGER GRASS AND PLANTS. WE TALK ABOUT COMMERCIAL. ISN'T AGRICULTURE COMMERCIAL? DO YOU SELL YOUR HORSES? DO YOU SELL YOUR CROPS? WE TALK ABOUT ADDITIONAL BUILDINGS. LET'S TAKE THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY PLANTING.

IF YOU TAKE THE 320 ACRES AND YOU DIVIDE IT BY THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE HOUSES, IT'S 95% HOMES AND ROOFTOPS AND GARAGES.

IT'S. I'M SORRY. IT'S 5% HOMES AND ROOFTOPS AND GARAGES AND 95% OPEN SPACE.

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IT IS GRASS AND CONCRETE. THIS PLAN, THE WAY THEY'VE DONE THEIR ROADS, IS MORE GREEN SPACE AND LESS CONCRETE WITH THE PERIMETER ROADS.

SO I JUST THINK THAT AS JAMES CHILDERS AND I MET WITH THE NATIONAL FEDERATION OF WILDLIFE, AND WE LEARNED THAT THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS LIKE THIS THAT ARE NOT ONLY IN PLACE, BUT THERE'S MORE PROJECTS GOING IN WHERE IT'S FARM AND HOME COMBINATION.

MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND A CONTINGENT OUT TO INVESTIGATE SOME OF THESE AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO.

IF WE LOOK AT THE RECENT CONSTRUCTION AND PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION OF THE RESIDENCES, IT'S OPEN SPACE.

ALL RIGHT. BECAUSE THEY'VE TAKEN OUT ALL THE TREES.

SO I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS A NEW WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS.

IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF LOOKING AT THINGS. I LEARNED FROM OUR COUNCIL A LONG TIME AGO, AND FROM OUR P&Z, THAT EACH PROPERTY HAS ITS OWN DISTINCT NEEDS AND REQUIREMENTS FOR THE LAYOUT OF THAT PROPERTY.

MAYBE WE NEED TO CONSIDER SOMETHING MORE GREEN, MORE OXYGEN RICH, MORE HEALTHY.

MAYBE WE NEED TO NOT TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT BUT DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

THANK YOU. GOD BLESS YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE LACEY BRYANT.

HI. MY NAME IS LACEY BRYANT. I'M COMING FROM 6500 CROSS TIMBERS ROAD.

YOU JUST MET MY HUSBAND, BAILEY. I'VE SEEN ALL OF YOUR FACES BECAUSE I'M HERE ALMOST EVERY MEETING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU DO.

OUR CHURCH AND OUR PEOPLE ARE PRAYING FOR YOU REGULARLY.

THANK YOU FOR SERVING THE TOWN. WE'RE HONORED TO BE A PART OF THE TOWN.

AND WE REALLY, REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT IT IS THAT YOU GUYS DO.

SO THANK YOU. I'M HERE TODAY IN SUPPORT OF EDEN RANCH.

I MADE A FEW NOTES OF THE THINGS THAT STICK OUT TO ME WHEN WE FIRST MET TYLER AS A NEIGHBOR OF SHILOH CHURCH.

THEY CAME TO US AND TOLD US WHAT IT WAS ABOUT.

AND IF THEY COULD USE THE PROPERTY OF SHILOH TO HOST MEETINGS.

AND THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN KIND AND RESPECTFUL AND FORTHCOMING, AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT TO KNOW, WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK? HOW IS THIS GOING TO AFFECT YOU? THEY'RE THEY'RE VERY OPEN TO WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY, WHICH I REALLY APPRECIATE.

IF THERE'S ONE THING I'VE LEARNED FROM BEING AT THESE MEETINGS IS THAT THIS TOWN LOVES TREES.

IT LOVES TREES. IT LOVES NATURE. IT LOVES GREEN SPACES, AND RIGHTFULLY SO.

AND THIS I BELIEVE THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT IS SETTING A STANDARD FOR WHAT FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS COULD LOOK LIKE INSTEAD OF SCRAPE AND BUILD, AS YOU'VE TALKED ABOUT. AND IT'S ADDING TREES, NOT JUST TAKING AWAY.

I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ANY GOOD COMMUNITY HAS MULTI GENERATIONS.

WE BELIEVE THAT AT SHILOH CHURCH, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS WE VALUE IN COMMUNITY IS THAT WE'VE GOT BABIES AND WE'VE GOT THE ELDERLY, AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DON'T RELEGATE ALL ELDERLY PEOPLE TO ELDERLY LIVING.

I THINK ELDERLY LIVING IS AMAZING AND THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS THAT YOU CAN PROVIDE THERE, BUT THERE'S JUST SOMETHING ABOUT THE ELDERLY BEING AROUND THE YOUNG THAT BRINGS LIFE TO THEM. AND SO I THINK YOU SHOULD CONSIDER MAKING THE AMENDMENT THAT THIS COMMUNITY COULD BE A MULTI GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY AND NOT JUST YOUNG FAMILIES.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO SAY WAS, I DO THINK THIS COULD BE KIND OF A STANDARD SET FORTH FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS. WE'VE TALKED WITH CHARLIE CUMMINGS, WHO OWNED IT PREVIOUSLY, AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, HEY, WHAT'S THIS GOING TO LOOK LIKE? HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT THE AREA? HOW IS IT GOING TO AFFECT OUR CHURCH? AND NOTHING HAS LOOKED SO GOOD AS THIS DOES.

YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY PLAN ON BUILDING A PARK RIGHT NEXT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SHILOH CEMETERY.

AND SO THAT BENEFITS US AS A COMMUNITY THAT OUR KIDS COULD GO OVER THERE AND PLAY OR, YOU KNOW, EVEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY, WE COULD WALK THE EQUESTRIAN TRAILS OR JUST BE A PART OF THAT COMMUNITY.

SO AS A CHURCH AND AS AN INDIVIDUAL, I AM FOR EDEN RANCH.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LAST ONE IS GLENDA STRAUB.

OH. HI. MY NAME IS GLENDA STRAUB. I LIVE AT 7201 HAWK ROAD IN FLOWER MOUND.

MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO WHERE THE EDEN RANCH IS GOING TO BE, AND I'M JUST HERE TO SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WE HAVE SO MANY HEALTH ISSUES, FROM THE PROCESSED FOODS AND THE PESTICIDES AND HERBICIDES, AND TO SEE THEM COME IN AND WANT TO DO SOMETHING NATURAL AND NO PESTICIDES AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, I THINK THAT'S WONDERFUL. I THINK WE ALL NEED THAT.

AND I LOVE WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE TREES AROUND THE OUTER PART OF THE PROPERTY, ESPECIALLY WHERE IT BACKS UP TO MY PROPERTY. I MEAN, IT'LL BE BEAUTIFUL TO HAVE ALL THESE TREES BACK THERE.

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WHEN YOU DRIVE DOWN SEVEN THAT DEVELOPMENT ON 407.

IT'S JUST ONE WHITE HOUSE AFTER ANOTHER AFTER ANOTHER.

I THINK THE TREES ARE MUCH PRETTIER. AND SO I'M HERE TO SUPPORT IT.

AND I ASK THAT YOU GIVE THEM THE CONCESSIONS THEY'RE ASKING FOR.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY HAVE MORE SPEAKERS.

RUTH BROCK, OR IS THAT BROOKE? THANK YOU. I'M RUTH BROCK FROM 6921 HAWK ROAD, FLOWER MOUND. WE ACTUALLY, MY HUSBAND AND I BOUGHT OUR LAND IN 1977, AND WE OWN ABOUT THREE ACRES RIGHT ON THE TOP OF THE HILL, SURROUNDED BY EDEN RANCH ON ALL SIDES.

AND LIKE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS, WE HAVE SEEN MANY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS.

WE'VE BEEN TO DEVELOPMENT MEETINGS. WE ARE THRILLED WITH WHAT WE SEE IN EDEN RANCH.

FIRST OF ALL, I MEAN, HONESTLY, I'M SO PROUD OF THE TOWN I LIVE IN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE FLOWER MOUND HAS SET A HIGH BAR.

WE CAN DRIVE AROUND THE AREA AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE.

WE'RE PLEASED THAT, LIKE, WE LOOK AT TOWN LAKE, WE SEE THE FRONTS OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES.

I THINK THE TOWN HAS REQUIRED THAT WE DON'T SEE WOOD FENCING.

HOWEVER, WHAT COULD BE BETTER THAN SEEING THE BEAUTIFUL FRONTS OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES, I THINK WOULD BE TREES AND NATURE.

I THINK THAT FITS THE RURAL MODEL BY WHICH FLOWER MOUND HAS DEFINED ITSELF.

HONESTLY, WE LIVE OUT WHERE I CAN SEE RED FOXES IN THE MORNING, OWLS WHERE OWLS IN THE TREES.

WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE TRAILS ON 1171 AND ALL ALONG ALL THE STREETS BE NATURAL WHERE THOSE COYOTES AND THOSE FOXES CAN FIND A HOME IN THE EVENINGS, AND WHERE EQUESTRIAN TRAIL RIDERS AND WALKERS CAN WALK IN THE DAYTIME. WE THINK THAT WHILE WE APPLAUD THE TOWN HONESTLY AGAINST SETTING A HIGH BAR AND WANTING VISTAS, OPEN VISTAS, WHAT I FEEL LIKE THAT HAS RESULTED IN WHILE IT WAS BEAUTIFUL.

WHAT HAS RESULTED IN IS SEEING MANICURED SETBACKS AND HOMES.

AND YEAH, THAT'S A LOT BETTER THAN WHAT WE SEE IN OTHER PLACES IN DALLAS.

BUT WE FEEL THAT EDEN RANCH IS RAISING THE BAR AND GOING TO SET THE STANDARD FOR FUTURE, WE HOPE DEVELOPMENT IN FLOWER MOUND, WHERE IT IS NATURE THAT DRIVES NOT THE DEVELOPER, BUT NATURE, AND WE LIKE THE IDEA OF WILD WILDLIFE HABITAT. I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF LESS CONCRETE.

AND WITH THE HOMES FACING THE ROAD, WE'VE GOT TO HAVE MORE CONCRETE.

WE SAY LESS CONCRETE IS BETTER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

WE HAVE ED BROCK.

OH. OKAY.

YEAH. WHERE'S THE MIC? OKAY. AREN'T YOU DOWN? DOWN RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU? OKAY. OKAY, I GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MIC IS.

YOU'RE GOOD. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, WE CAME TO FLOWER MOUND LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE. FOR THOSE ROLLING HILLS, GRAZING CATTLE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE IT COUNTRY.

IT WAS COUNTRY, NOT CITY. WE LIVE ON THE TIP TOP OF A HILL, WITH A COMMANDING VIEW OF THE ENTIRE 350 ACRES OF EDEN RANCH. AND WITH THE LONG ROADS COMING BACK TO OUR PROPERTY, WE MAINTAIN ABOUT FOUR ACRES. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, ANOTHER PERSON SUBMITTED A PLAN TO DEVELOP THIS LAND. ON THAT PLAN BUTTED UP TO OUR EAST FENCE WAS SEVEN BACKYARDS. GOODBYE, COUNTRY. HELLO, CITY. FAST FORWARD TO THE CURRENT DEVELOPER.

LOOK OVER THAT SAME EAST FENCE. WHAT DO WE SEE?

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NEAREST HOUSE HUNDREDS OF FEET AWAY. ARE WE HAPPY? YES WE ARE, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY. THIS DEVELOPER IS PROMISING TO DO ON HIS SIDE OF THE FENCE, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING ON OUR SIDE OF THE FENCE FOR THE LAST 47 YEARS.

NATIVE GRASSES IN COMMON AREAS. WE HAVE NOTHING BUT NATIVE GRASSES ON OUR SIDE THAT THIS DEVELOPER HAS PROMISED TO PLANT. TREES, TREES AND MORE TREES ON OUR SIDE.

COUNTLESS TREES, SOME SO BIG YOU CANNOT GET YOUR ARMS AROUND THESE THINGS.

THIS IS A DEVELOPER WILLING TO PROVIDE OPEN SPACE AT THE BACK OF ALMOST EVERY SINGLE RESIDENCE.

VEGGIE GARDENS, FRUIT TREES ALL OVER THE PLACE, ALL WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CONCRETE POSSIBLE.

I HAVE LOST COUNT OF THE PAVEMENT CONTRACTORS KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR WANTING TO PAVE OUR ROADS.

WHY WOULD WE WANT THAT? WE DON'T WANT THAT LOOK, WE WANT TO LIVE AS CLOSE AS POSSIBLE TO A NATIVE PRESERVE.

THIS IS A DEVELOPER WILLING TO ACCOMMODATE AND NOT IGNORE WILDLIFE.

WE HAVE HAD ALMOST HALF A CENTURY TO WATCH THE COYOTES LAY CLAIM TO THAT RANCH AT NIGHT.

YOU THINK THEY'RE NOT THERE? ALL IT TAKES IS A SIREN FROM FIRE STATION NUMBER TWO, AND THOSE COYOTES CANNOT RESIST REPLYING. I HOPE THAT CONTINUES. I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING, WHEN I WENT OUT TO CALIFORNIA TO TRAIN WITH MY GUIDE DOG ANDY, TRAINERS TOLD ME, HEY, WHEN YOU GET HOME, PUT HIM ON A SHORT LEASH BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'VE GOT UNTIL YOU'VE HAD HIM A WHILE. WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THE MEAT AISLE IN KROGER. WHEN I GOT HOME, WELL, THIS GUY WAS A WHOLE LOT SMARTER THAN ME.

HE WAS TEACHING ME, AND HE DIDN'T FILL UP ON ANYTHING.

MY MESSAGE TO THE CITY COUNCIL IS TO PUT THIS DEVELOPER ON A LONG, LONG LEASH.

YOU MIGHT LEARN SOMETHING FROM HIM. ALL RIGHT.

AS FAR AS I UNDERSTAND, HE'S WANTING TO DO. TO BE MORE GREENER, MORE, MORE GREEN THAN THE LAW ALLOWS.

HE HAS SHOWN GREAT RESPECT TO US. HE'LL DO THE SAME FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

THANK YOU, MR. BROCK. I APPRECIATE IT. NOW WE HAVE BRIAN WEBB.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL STAFF. MY NAME IS BRIAN WEBB. I LIVE AT 4112 HIGH ROAD.

I'M HERE TONIGHT SPEAKING AT MR. BRADBURN'S REQUEST ON BEHALF OF THE OLD SHILOH CEMETERY ASSOCIATION.

OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE WITH ME TONIGHT.

MR. RONNIE HILLIARD AND DON MCDANIEL. LET ME SEE IF I CAN KEEP THIS GOING.

THE OLD SHILOH CEMETERY CONTAINS THE HISTORY OF OUR TOWN.

THE OLDEST GRAVE DATES BACK OVER 150 YEARS. AND AS YOU WALK THROUGH THE CEMETERY, YOU WILL SEE NAMES THAT ARE FAMILIAR TO YOU.

YOU SEE THEM DAILY ON STREETS AND PARKS. YOU'LL SEE MARKERS OF BABIES, CHILDREN WHO DIED VERY YOUNG. OTHERS WHO LIVED FULL AND COMPLETE LIVES, AND STILL OTHERS WHOSE HARD LIFE TOOK AN EARLY TOLL.

THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION HAVE BEEN WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS AT THE CEMETERY.

THESE WOMEN HAVE WORKED MANY HOURS CLEANING HEADSTONES.

IDENTIFYING AND RECOGNIZING VETERANS. LAST NOVEMBER FOR VETERANS DAY, THEY PLANTED 102 FLAGS AT 97 GRAVESITES.

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SO TODAY, THE FINAL SECTION OF THE CEMETERY IS BEING USED.

MR. RADBURN HAS OFFERED TO GIVE THE CEMETERY ASSOCIATION A PARTIAL LAND ADJACENT TO THE CEMETERY.

HIS GIFT WOULD ALLOW THE CEMETERY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE THE FAMILIES OF FLOWER MOUND FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.

THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE OLD SHILOH CEMETERY ASKED THAT MR. RADBURN'S GENEROUS GIFT BE INCLUDED AS AN OPEN SPACE FOR THE EDEN RANCH PROJECT.

THE CEMETERY IS A MEMORIAL PARK. IT IS OPEN TO EVERYONE AND SITTING IN THE CROSS TIMBERS.

IT IS A PEACEFUL SETTING FOR RESIDENTS TO VISIT WITH ANY CHANGES TO AN ORDINANCE YOU RIGHTLY HAVE TO CONSIDER.

OKAY, WHAT COULD HAPPEN THAT I'M NOT ANTICIPATING? WELL, THE OLD SHILOH CEMETERY IS THE ONLY CEMETERY IN THE CROSS TIMBERS.

ONCE DONATED, THE ASSOCIATION WILL BE PRECLUDED FROM USING THE LAND FOR ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN A FINAL RESTING PLACE OF THE DECEASED, ENSURING IT REMAINS AS INTENDED. CEMETERY IS NOT FOR PROFIT.

ALL REVENUES RECEIVED ARE USED TO MAINTAIN THE GROUNDS.

DIRECTORS ARE UNPAID VOLUNTEERS AND THE BYLAWS FORBID MEMBERS FROM BEING PAID FOR THEIR SERVICE AS STAFF.

AS STAFF AND COUNCIL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH MR. RADBURN ON THE EDEN RANCH PROJECT, PLEASE CONSIDER OUR REQUEST TO INCLUDE CEMETERY IN THE DEFINITION OF OPEN SPACE FOR DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS. STATED PLAINLY, THIS GIFT WILL EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE CEMETERY.

WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO RECEIVE THE GIFT. THE OLD SHILOH CEMETERY WILL FILL UP AND NO LONGER BE ABLE TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS FINAL NEEDS.

THIS PARCEL REPRESENTS OUR ONLY OPPORTUNITY TO EXTEND THE CEMETERY'S LIFE WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ACCEPT MR. RADBURN'S GIFT. THE LAND WILL STILL BE THERE.

IT WILL JUST BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.

APPRECIATE YOU ALL. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE SHANNON BARKETT.

AND. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE OTHER SLIDE IS. SORRY.

KEEP ON. ALL RIGHT.

NOW IT'S YOUR TURN. THANK YOU, THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL STAFF.

SHANNON BARKETT, 7500 BOWLER LANE. I'VE BEEN A CITIZEN WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS DISTRICT FOR 14 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN A OFTEN OUTSPOKEN ADVOCATE FOR THE CROSS TIMBERS. I'M HERE THIS EVENING BECAUSE I WANT TO EXPRESS MY STRONG SUPPORT FOR THE INITIATIVES PROPOSED BY THE DEVELOPER OF EDEN RANCH, WHICH PRIORITIZE THE RESPECT, APPRECIATION AND THE PROTECTION OF THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

UNLIKE MANY OTHER DEVELOPERS WHOSE PRIMARY FOCUS IS ON MAXIMIZING PROFITS, EDEN RANCH HAS DEMONSTRATED A COMMENDABLE COMMITMENT TO CONSERVATION AND TO ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP. EDEN RANCH'S REQUEST FOR EXEMPTIONS IS NOT A TYPICAL PLEA FOR LENIENCY, BUT RATHER A THOUGHTFUL PROPOSAL THAT ENHANCES, CONTRIBUTES TO, AND PROTECTS THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

THEIR APPROACH IS REFRESHING AND ALIGNS WITH THE VALUES OF OUR COMMUNITY, EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF PRESERVING GREEN SPACES AND MAINTAINING THE ECOLOGICAL INTEGRITY OF THE AREA, IT IS IMPORTANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT THIS LAND WILL INEVITABLY BE DEVELOPED.

HOWEVER, EDEN RANCH STANDS OUT AS A DEVELOPER THAT IS NOT PUSHING FOR MEDIUM DENSITY HOUSING OR MODIFICATIONS TO THE MASTER PLAN THAT WOULD RESULT IN MORE HOMES AND FEWER GREEN SPACES. INSTEAD, THEIR PROPOSAL IS IN HARMONY WITH THE GOALS OF PROTECTING THE CROSS TIMBERS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT, ENSURING THE DEVELOPMENT IS CARRIED OUT RESPONSIBLY AND SUSTAINABLY.

I URGE THE TOWN COUNCIL TO EMBRACE THIS FORWARD THINKING APPROACH AND CONSIDER HOW EDEN RANCH'S PROPOSAL CAN SERVE AS A MODEL FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS IN CONSERVATION AREAS, NOT ONLY IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT THROUGHOUT TEXAS AND THE UNITED STATES BY SUPPORTING EDEN RANCH.

THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SET A PRECEDENT FOR RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPMENT THAT BALANCES GROWTH WITH ENVIRONMENTAL PRESERVATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. WE HAVE STEVEN VARGAS.

HELLO. MY NAME IS STEVEN VARGAS. ADDRESS 6424 CROSS TIMBERS ROAD.

I'M HERE TO REPRESENT CHRISTINA'S MEXICAN RESTAURANT.

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IT WAS ORIGINALLY ANGELINA'S, AND THAT WAS MY GRANDMOTHER.

AND NOW MY MOTHER AND FATHER HAVE TAKEN OVER THERE, THE OWNERS OF CHRISTINA'S.

AND NOW I'M THE ONE THAT'S PRETTY MUCH TAKEN OVER.

I'VE BEEN IN FLOWER MOUND MY WHOLE LIFE. I GREW UP OVER HERE, AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD EVERYTHING THAT TYLER HAD TO SAY ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT.

ALL FOR IT. THE EDEN RANCH IS GOING TO BE ON THE NORTH AND WEST SIDE OF CHRISTINA'S MEXICAN RESTAURANT.

I ALSO TALKED TO A LOT OF THE STAFF. A LOT OF THE CUSTOMERS THAT COME IN.

I'VE BEEN SHARING WITH THEM ABOUT THEM, ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, ASKING THEM THEIR IDEAS OR THEIR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.

AND FROM WHAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY AND EVERYTHING THAT I'VE HEARD, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN AGREEMENT.

OF COURSE, YOU DO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT IN FAVOR, BUT I THINK THAT FOR THE MOST PART, WHAT TYLER HAS TO BRING TO THE TABLE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT IS REALLY GOOD.

AS FAR AS THE TREES I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA WHAT HE PROPOSED AS FAR AS A PARK ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE CEMETERY.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO ALSO BE VERY USEFUL ALSO FOR OUR RESTAURANT AND ALSO FOR THE PEOPLE THAT GO TO THE SHILOH CHURCH AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANTED TO COME AND JUST LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE ALL IN FAVOR, AND WE'RE FOR IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE ELMER MCKEEGAN.

YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT TOPIC, I BELIEVE. YEAH, IT'S A DIFFERENT TOPIC.

IT'S ELMER MCKEEGAN, 645 LAKE BLUFF DRIVE. AND HERE TO TALKING FOR THE PROCLAMATION IN THIS CASE IS FOR THE MOTORCYCLE SAFETY AND AWARENESS MONTH AND LIKE THE TOWN TO UPHOLD THE PROCLAMATION.

SINCE THE STATE DOES IT, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE TOWN DO IT TOO.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'VE SEEN A FEW NEAR ACCIDENTS HERE ON 635 IN THIS CASE BUT BASICALLY MOTORCYCLES RIDING WITH THE CARS ON THE HIGHWAY AND CARS JUST CHANGE LANES.

AND ONE CASE A MOTORCYCLE BEEPED HIS HORN AND THE CAR WENT BACK.

THE OTHER CASE CAR KEPT COMING AND LUCKILY MOTORCYCLE WAS ABLE TO GET IN BETWEEN TWO CARS AND STAY OUT OF THERE.

BUT IT SAFETY AND AWARENESS JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT COMING IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT MORE MOTORCYCLES ON THE ROAD.

AND WE'D JUST LIKE TO SEE AND JUST LET EVERYBODY KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO LOOK TWICE BEFORE CHANGING LANES AND BE SAFE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE TAMARA WEBER.

HI, I'M TAMARA WEBER. I LIVE AT 4101 ADDINGTON PLACE.

FLOWER MOUND. I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR OVER 30 YEARS, AND I PLAN TO SOON RETIRE HERE WITH MY HUSBAND.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF IN SUPPORT OF THE VISION THAT EDEN PROJECT HAS TO DO A WILDLIFE HABITAT AND FARM LIFE COMMUNITY IN OUR AREA.

I WANT TO ENCOURAGE US TO BE PROACTIVE, TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE WITH THE CROSS TIMBER CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND THE GREEN SPACE IDEA. I THINK ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENT WE ADOPT SHOULD HAVE BETTER STANDARDS TO KEEP AND BE ALLOWED TO ADD MORE TREES.

MANY PEOPLE CHOSE TO MOVE TO THIS AREA AND CONTINUE TO DO SO BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE AND COUNTRY FEEL, AND IT'S UP TO US AND YOU ALL TO HELP US KEEP THAT, KEEP IT THAT WAY AND I SO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE HAVE SHELDON ANDERSON.

HI. GOOD EVENING. I LIVE AT 7007 HAWK ROAD IN FLOWER MOUND.

WE ARE PROBABLY ONE OF THE LARGER LANDOWNERS THAT WOULD ADJOIN EDEN RANCH.

WE HAVE ABOUT A FIFTH OF A MILE OF FENCE IN THE BACK OF OUR HOUSE.

THAT WOULD BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF EDEN RANCH.

ON OUR PROPERTY, WE HAVE SIX DONKEYS, SOME COWS, SOME HORSES.

SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF WILDLIFE OUT THERE.

AND WE ARE VERY IN FAVOR OF EDEN RANCH. WE LOVE THE IDEA OF THERE BEING TRAILS, PARKS, OPEN SPACES. WE FEEL THAT TYLER AND HIS WIFE WOULD BE A

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BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE PUT A LARGE INVESTMENT OF MONEY INTO THAT LAND.

AND I THINK THEY HAVE A WONDERFUL VISION AND I THINK THAT ALL OF THE IDEAS THAT THEY HAVE ARE, ARE WONDERFUL AS FAR AS THE ELDERLY LIVING, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF HAVING PLACES LIKE WE GO TO CHURCH OVER OFF OF 1171 OR 2499 THERE AT VALLEY CREEK, AND THERE'S THAT BIG RETIREMENT COMMUNITY THAT'S BUILT THERE BEHIND THAT.

BUT I THINK INCORPORATING SOME OF THAT ELDERLY LIVING INTO A COMMUNITY WOULD BE A GREAT IDEA.

YOU KNOW, IN A SMALLER FOOTPRINT OF A HOUSE WHERE YOU KNOW, IT'S LOWER MAINTENANCE WHERE THEY CAN LIVE AND BE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA. INSTEAD OF PUTTING THEM IN AN OLD FOLKS KIND OF ASSISTED LIVING AREAS, HAVE THEM BE PART OF A COMMUNITY WHERE THEIR WISDOM AND THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH THE OTHER PEOPLE.

SO I URGE YOU ALL TO GIVE A GREEN LIGHT FOR EDEN RANCH AND LET A DEVELOPMENT START THERE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE CITY AND FOR US NEIGHBORS.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE KATIE GROAT.

GOOD EVENING. I DON'T HAVE A PREPARED SPEECH AS I WASN'T PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT.

HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO REMIND. I'M SORRY. KATIE GROAT, 165 DOUBLE OAKS DRIVE, DOUBLE OAK, TEXAS. I'M ON THE SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT HAS THE MOST DENSITY ALL CLUSTERED TOGETHER.

I'VE NOTICED THERE'S SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE SPEAKING OFF HAWKS AND THESE OTHER ROADS WHERE THEY HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL TWO ACRE, FIVE ACRE LOTS BACKING UP TO THEIR PROPERTY. THAT'S NOT WHERE MY ONE ACRE LOT IS.

I'M GOING TO BE HAVING HALF ACRE LOTS. AND APPARENTLY IF HE GETS HIS WAY, QUARTER ACRE LOTS.

WE'VE WORKED HARD AS A TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND TO REDO WHAT TOM HAYDEN ERA DID AND PUT IN MAKING GETTING RID OF THAT CLUSTER. WE JUST RECENTLY PASSED WITH TOLL BROTHERS SOMETHING THAT ABIDED BY OUR STANDARDS.

ONE HOUSE PER TWO ACRES. THERE'S NO WAY YOU CAN TELL ANYBODY HERE THAT PUTTING MORE HOUSES ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS BEING MORE ECO FRIENDLY. AND NOT TO MENTION IT'S GOING TO OPEN UP THE DOORS FOR LAWSUITS, PERIOD. I CAN ALREADY SEE THEM COMING, PLEASE.

I THINK TYLER IS A GREAT PERSON, AND I THINK HIS PROPOSAL WOULD BE FABULOUS OUT THERE WHERE Y'ALL ARE DOING. 377 1171 WHERE WE JUST APPROVED A TON OF DENSITY.

BUT THIS IS OUR LAST LARGE PORTION OF LAND THAT WE HAVE TO PRESERVE.

LET'S PRESERVE IT THE WAY WE'VE FOUGHT SO HARD THE LAST FIVE YEARS TO OVERTURN THAT CLUSTER AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT CARDS? IS THAT IT? OKAY. SO WE HAVE SEVERAL CARDS FOR.

THEY DON'T WISH TO SPEAK. THEY ARE IN SUPPORT OF THE EDEN RANCH.

SO, THERE ARE ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, SIX, SEVEN.

WHO DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK BUT ARE IN SUPPORT OF EDEN RANCH.

JUST FOR THE RECORD. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE RIGHT ALONG

[E. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

JANVIER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? ADAM.

I DON'T. I JUST HAVE A QUICK ONE. I WANTED TO WISH EVERYONE A VERY HAPPY SAINT PATRICK'S DAY.

AND I, TOO, HAVE A BLESSING FOR FLOWER MOUND.

MAY OUR TOWN. BE AS BRIGHT HEARTH, WARMING ALL WHO GATHER NEAR.

WHERE FRIENDSHIP FLOURISHES AND LAUGHTER RUNS CLEAR.

MAY THE ROADS RISE TO WELCOME BOTH STRANGER AND FRIEND.

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MAY THE RAINS BLESS OUR FIELDS. AND THE SUN LIGHT OUR WAY.

AND MAY JOY FIND OUR TOWN EVERY NIGHT AND EACH DAY.

THANK YOU. I HAVE A LITTLE IRISH IN ME. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. HAPPY SAINT PATTY'S DAY AND HAPPY HOLY.

SO WE HAVE A HOLY FESTIVAL COMING UP ON MARCH 29TH FOR FLOWER MOUND.

I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SAME DAY AS THE ACTUAL HOLY HOLIDAY, BUT IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

GO CHECK IT OUT. WE HOLD IT HERE AT HERITAGE PARK, SO GO OUT AND HAVE SOME FUN.

OKAY. THAT'S IT, ON THE ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

[F. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

WE'RE GOING TO IMPROVISE TONIGHT. OH, THERE IT GOES.

OKAY. THANKS, ADAM. ALL RIGHT, SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNINITIATED, IS THAT WE ONCE A MONTH, WE RECOGNIZE TOWN EMPLOYEES THAT HAVE CELEBRATED 15 YEARS AND UP FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS OF SERVICE ANNIVERSARIES.

WE JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THEIR SERVICE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO THIS EVENING, BOTH FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO UP FIRST I'M GOING TO ASK OFFICER BEN LIPPENS TO JOIN US UP FRONT.

ALL RIGHT. SO BEN, HE STARTED WE WERE HIRED ON BEN AS A POLICE OFFICER RECRUIT IN MARCH 28 OF 2005.

AND LATER ON THAT YEAR, IN AUGUST OF 2005, HE WAS PROMOTED TO POLICE OFFICER, WHERE HE SERVES TO THIS DAY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE ASK OF ALL THE EMPLOYEES, THEY HAVE TO GIVE US A FUN FACT, AND BEN'S FUN FACT IS THAT HE LOVES CHRISTIAN RAP MUSIC.

OKAY. OH, SHE'S RAISING THE ROOF UP HERE. ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. BUT NOW I HEARD SOME LITTLE EXTRA BANDS THAT YOU ALSO CREATE.

AND YOU RAP TOO, RIGHT? NO, I DON'T RAP. OKAY, OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. JUST MAKING SURE I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WERE ON SPOTIFY OR SOMETHING AND PEOPLE COULD CHECK YOU OUT.

OKAY. WELL, YOU KNOW, AND BEN DOES A LOT, AND I SEE BEN A LOT.

HE HE HANDLES PERSONNEL FROM THE POLICE SIDE.

SO ANYTIME WE HIRE ANYBODY ON AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BEN'S OVER HERE SHOWING THEM AROUND.

SO, GET TO SEE HIM QUITE A BIT AS WE HIRE NEW FOLKS WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT.

SO IF YOU COULD LET ME GIVE YOU YOUR CERTIFICATE REAL QUICK.

I'M SORRY. I'M DOING EVERYTHING OUT OF ORDER.

THERE YOU GO. SO IF YOU COULD JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING BEN FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT UP, I'M ASKED DEPUTY CHIEF KENDALL LEONARD TO JOIN US UP FRONT.

HOW YOU DOING, MAN? ALL RIGHT, SO KENDALL WAS HIRED ON AS A POLICE OFFICER IN MARCH 28 OF 2005.

AND IN JANUARY OF 2015, HE WAS PROMOTED TO SERGEANT.

HE WAS PROMOTED AGAIN TO LIEUTENANT IN NOVEMBER OF 2016, AND THEN PROMOTED TO CAPTAIN IN APRIL OF 2018, AND WITH THE WITH CHIEF COULON COMING ON BOARD, WE CHANGED SOME TITLES UP A LITTLE BIT, AND HIS TITLE WAS CHANGED TO DEPUTY CHIEF IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS PAST YEAR. AND KENDALL HAS A COOL, FUN FACT.

KENDALL RECENTLY BOUGHT A FARM BECAUSE HIS DAUGHTER, DECIDED SHE WANTED TO RAISE PRIZE COWS.

SO THAT'S BETTER THAN BEING ON THE PHONE JUST.

JUST RAISING COWS. ALL RIGHT, WELL, AGAIN, COULD YOU PLEASE JOIN ME IN RECOGNIZING KENDALL FOR 20 YEARS OF SERVICE? [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU. MR. CHAIRMAN.

ALL RIGHT, THAT'S IT FOR THAT, MAYOR.

YES.

AND, MAYOR, I ALSO WANTED TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO

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I'M SCARED I'M GONNA BREAK THIS. ALL RIGHT, DOUG, YOU GOT ME. IF I BREAK IT, I'LL GET YOU ANOTHER ONE. ALL RIGHT, SO OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED TWO AWARDS HERE RECENTLY.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS FROM THE TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY, WHICH IS TRAPS.

WE RECEIVED AN AWARD OF THE 2025 ARTS AND HUMANITIES PROGRAMING ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.

AND TISH IS HERE TODAY. AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW TISH, SHE'S OUR COMMUNITY AND CULTURAL ARTS MANAGER.

AND WE RECEIVED THIS AWARD FOR THE WORK THAT WE DO AT HERITAGE PARK.

AS YOU KNOW, SINCE HERITAGE WAS ESTABLISHED IN 2021, WE INTEGRATE ART INTO THAT PARK VERY WELL.

WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS THERE, BUT IF YOU WALK THE TRAIL THERE, YOU'LL SEE THE STATUES OF THE VARIOUS ANIMALS IN THE PARKS THERE.

AND IT'S ALWAYS A BIG SUCCESS BECAUSE TRAPS IS THE IT'S THE NUMBER ONE PARKS AND RECREATION GROUP HERE IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND GETTING AN AWARD FROM TRAPS IS VERY PRESTIGIOUS.

AND WE JUST WANT TO THANK TRISH FOR HER WORK.

TISH. EXCUSE ME. TISH FOR HER WORK IN OUR RECOGNITION AND OUR RECOGNITION FOR WINNING THE 2025 ARTS AND HUMANITIES PROGRAMING ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.

NEXT UP WE HAVE DOUG WATSON. WAVE YOUR HEAD, DOUG, IN THE BACK.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW DOUG, IF YOU'VE BEEN TO TWIN COVES, YOU PROBABLY MET DOUG.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN TO TWIN COVES PARK, THAT IS A REALLY A JEWEL FOR US.

IT'S JUST A GREAT SETUP THAT WE HAVE THERE WHERE YOU CAN DO A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING.

RVS, CABINS AND THE LIKE THAT'S OUT THERE. BUT DOUG WAS RECOGNIZED WITH THE 2025 EXCELLENCE IN MENTORING AWARD FOR THE DFW PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTORS ASSOCIATION, AND MENTORING IS NEAR AND DEAR TO ME.

AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT DOUG, WE HAVE AN INTERN, AND DOUG TOOK THE CHALLENGE TO PUT THAT INTERN UNDER THEIR WINGS.

AND IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE WHEN WE WERE DEALING WITH THE FLOODING AT THE AT THE LAKE THIS PAST SUMMER.

AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT FLOODING, IT WAS PRETTY.

IT WAS PRETTY BAD. WE LITERALLY HAD TO MOVE. OUR CABINS HAVE THE WAY OF THE RISING LAKE LEVELS.

AND SO THAT INTERN GOT A BAPTISM BY FIRE THAT LAST SUMMER WORKING AT THE LAKE, BUT WE APPRECIATE ANYTIME YOU HAVE YOUR PEERS RECOGNIZE YOU FOR MENTORSHIP.

IT SPEAKS VOLUMES. AND THE FACT THAT DOUG WAS RECOGNIZED BY HIS PEERS BY THE DFW DIRECTORS, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTORS GROUP IS IS A GREAT RECOGNITION.

SO IF YOU COULD JOIN ME IN THANKING CELEBRATING DOUG AND TISH FOR THEIR WORK.

AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO DO IS JUST LAST WEEK, I INDICATED TO THOSE WATCHING AND LISTENING ABOUT OUR 2025 BOND PROGRAM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU WILL NOTICE IF YOU WERE IN HERE, OUT IN THE HALLWAY THERE, WE HAD SOME POSTERS UP JUST PROVIDING FACTUAL INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO OUR BOND PROGRAM. WE'RE GOING TO PLACE THESE AT VARIOUS LOCATIONS AROUND THE TOWN.

AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE FACT THAT WE'RE NOT IN AN ADVOCACY ROLE.

WE CAN'T TELL YOU HOW TO VOTE, WHAT YOU SHOULD DO. BUT HOWEVER, WE CAN PROVIDE YOU FACTUAL INFORMATION. SO IF YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN A LOOK OUT THERE, YOU WILL HAVE TWO PROPOSITIONS ON THE BALLOT THIS COMING MAY.

AND THOSE POSTERS BREAK DOWN THAT INFORMATION.

WE ALSO HAVE A WEALTH OF INFORMATION ON OUR WEB PAGE.

I BELIEVE MAILERS WENT OUT REACH IN THE UTILITY BILLS.

AND ALSO FOR THOSE THAT DON'T RECEIVE PAPER BILLS, POSTCARDS ARE GOING TO BE COMING TO YOUR HOUSE IN THE COMING WEEKS.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT PROVIDING YOU WITH INFORMATION.

WE WILL ALSO BE HAVING A SERIES OF PUBLIC MEETINGS DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL TO PROVIDE, AGAIN, THAT FACTUAL INFORMATION TO INFORM YOU WHEN YOU GO TO THE VOTE, VOTE HOW YOU SEE FIT.

BUT WE JUST WANT TO PROVIDE YOU SOME INFORMATION. SO, I'LL JUST ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE POSTERS OUT FRONT IF THEY HAVEN'T DONE SO ALREADY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. OKAY. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM G.

FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE BRIAN YOU WANT TO START CHRIS ANYONE HAVE IT OKAY.

I DON'T EITHER. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM H.

[H. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

SO IS EVERYBODY ABLE TO COME TO THAT? ALL RIGHT.

WE HAVE SOME CONSENT ITEMS. MAYOR, IF I CAN INTERRUPT FOR JUST A SECOND, I JUST WANT TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THE WORK SESSION JUST GOT POSTED A FEW MOMENTS AGO. SO IT WILL BE A DELAYED START AT 620 AND NOT 6:00.

SO I DO APOLOGIZE FOR ANY INCONVENIENCE THAT MAY CAUSE STAFF AS WELL AS COUNCIL, BUT YOU HAVE A LITTLE LONGER TIME AT HOME I GUESS, OR AT WORK. SO. OKAY. VERY GOOD. 6:20 ON MARCH 20TH.

BE THERE. ALL RIGHT. SO CONSENT ITEMS. IS THERE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO REMOVE ANYTHING FROM THE CONSENT ITEMS OR MOVE TO APPROVE.

[I. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

SECOND. OKAY. THERESA. IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

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WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE 2024 ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT FOR THE FISCAL YEAR

[J.1. 2024 ACFR - Consider approval of the Annual Comprehensive Financial Report (ACFR) for the fiscal year ended September 30, 2024.]

MARY HUNTING, DIRECTOR OF ACCOUNTING SERVICES.

SO, BEFORE I INTRODUCE OUR SPEAKER FROM OUR AUDIT FIRM, I'D.

BAILEY, I'D LIKE TO MENTION THE NAMES OF THE OTHER TEAM MEMBERS FROM EIDE BAILEY.

WE HAD KAYLA BUTTERFIELD, SENIOR ASSOCIATE. SHE'S BEEN OUR SENIOR FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW.

WE HAD KEVIN RANDOLPH SENIOR MANAGER, JEREMY STEVENS PARTNER.

AND THEN THERE WERE A TEAM OF SEVERAL ASSOCIATES WORKING REMOTELY.

FELT LIKE HUNDREDS AT TIMES WHEN THEY WERE SENDING REQUESTS.

AND THEN THERE ARE, AS ALWAYS, A GROUP OF EIDE BAILEY BEHIND THE SCENES.

SO IT'S MY PLEASURE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE KEVIN RANDOLPH, THE CPA AND SENIOR MANAGER AT EIDE BAILEY.

AND HE'LL RUN US THROUGH WHAT THE AUDIT ENTAILED AND SOME FINANCIAL HIGHLIGHTS FROM THE AFR.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

MY NAME IS KEVIN RANDOLPH WITH EIDE BAILEY. MY FIRM PERFORMED THE TOWN'S AUDIT OF HIS FINANCIAL STATEMENTS FOR THE FISCAL PERIOD ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT BRIEFLY, AND THEN I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

A BRIEF SUMMARY, AND WE ISSUED, SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR, AN UNMODIFIED OPINION ON THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS.

THAT'S THE OPINION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO GET UNMODIFIED OR CLEAN OPINION MEANS THAT WE FOUNDED THE TOWN'S FINANCIAL STATEMENTS WERE CONSISTENT WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. AND SIMILARLY WITH LAST YEAR, WE HAD NO ISSUES OR FINDINGS.

SO WHAT I CALL A GOOD, CLEAN AND HAPPILY A BORING AUDIT.

WE ALSO, NO INSTANCES OF NONCOMPLIANCE WITH ANY LAWS OR REGULATIONS AS PART OF OUR PROCEDURES, AND NO MATERIAL WEAKNESSES OR SIGNIFICANT DEFICIENCIES IN INTERNAL CONTROL.

AND AS I'LL GO OVER SHORTLY, WE ALSO DID AN AUDIT OVER FEDERAL GRANT EXPENDITURES AS THE TOWN EXPENDED MORE THAN $750,000 OF FEDERAL GRANTS DURING THE YEAR. THE TOWN FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING STAFF PREPARES THE ACFR AND WE AUDIT THE NUMBERS, AND THEN WE REVIEW THE CFR TO MAKE SURE THAT IT INCLUDES ALL APPROPRIATE DISCLOSURES. AND WE HAD NO WE HAD NO ADJUSTMENTS TO THE NUMBERS THAT THE TOWN PROVIDED US.

SO NO, NO ADJUSTING ENTRIES. SO MEANING WE FOUND THAT THE NUMBERS PROVIDED TO US WERE CORRECT AS PRESENTED.

SO, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO, QUOTE UNQUOTE, FIX ANYTHING.

AND I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT FOR THE 2023 CFR, THE TOWN DID RECEIVE THE GFOA CERTIFICATE OF EXCELLENCE, WHICH I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH THE NUMBERS BRIEFLY NOW I'LL GO OVER THE OPINION A LITTLE MORE AND AGAIN, UNMODIFIED OPINION. AND I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT MANAGEMENT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREPARATION AND FAIR PRESENTATION OF FINANCIAL STATEMENTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH GENERALLY ACCEPTED ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO EXPRESS AN OPINION ON THOSE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, AND TO OBTAIN REASONABLE ASSURANCE THAT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS ARE FREE OF MATERIAL MISSTATEMENTS AND SOME SUMMARIES.

I'D LIKE TO GO OVER CASH AND INVESTMENTS. TOTAL CASH FOR THE TOWN AT SEPTEMBER 30TH WAS $84,757,689.

GOVERNMENTAL ACTIVITIES COMPRISED $74.7 MILLION OF CASH.

BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES OR WATER SEWER WAS JUST A LITTLE OVER $10 MILLION.

GENERAL FUND CASH $13,009,221. RESTRICTED CASH IN THE WATER.

SEWER BUSINESS TYPE ACTIVITIES WAS 57.0 MILLION.

INVESTMENTS TOTALED FOR THE TOWN 88,920,866. THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS 75.4 MILLION. WATER, SEWER 13.5 MILLION. AND GENERAL FUND INVESTMENTS WERE $20,087,527.

RESTRICTED INVESTMENTS IN WATER. SEWER WAS 7.4 MILLION AND FOR INVESTMENTS 143.6 MILLION.

OF THAT IS IN STATE INVESTMENT POOLS, 59.5 MILLION IN U.S.

TREASURIES AND $36.8 MILLION IN FEDERAL SECURITIES.

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THE GENERAL FUND WERE $44,031,881, 33.1 MILLION OF THAT IS CASH AND INVESTMENTS, 9.8 MILLION, THAT'S RECEIVABLE, ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE OR AMOUNTS DUE. THAT'S GOING TO BE PROPERTY TAXES, SALES TAXES, AMBULANCE, OTHER ANY GRANT RECEIVABLES. JUST ANY MONTH, ANY MONEY THAT YOU'VE EARNED BUT HAVE NOT YET COLLECTED IN CASH.

INVENTORY. APPROXIMATELY 1.1 MILLION. PREPAID ASSETS $69,752.

THAT'S INSURANCE AND OTHER ITEMS THAT YOU PAID FOR THIS YEAR FOR USE OF NEXT YEAR.

TOTAL LIABILITIES $9,400,287. BIGGEST PART OF THAT IS ACCOUNTS PAYABLE TO VENDORS $4.8 MILLION.

SALARIES PAYABLE JUST A LITTLE OVER $1 MILLION.

DEFERRED INFLOWS, WHICH IS MONEY YOU'VE RECEIVED BUT HAVEN'T EARNED TO SPEND IT YET, SUCH AS LEASES OR FUTURE LEASES, WHERE YOU'RE LEASING OUT ASSETS TO OTHER ENTITIES OF A $1.1 MILLION AND $2.4 MILLION OF UNAVAILABLE REVENUE FOR THINGS SUCH AS PROPERTY TAXES AND OTHER ITEMS WHERE YOU HAVEN'T YET EARNED THE REVENUE. THAT LEAVES FUND BALANCE OF $34,631,531 OF THAT FUND BALANCE.

UNASSIGNED FUND BALANCE IS $33.5 MILLION. THAT REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 32.4%, OR FOUR MONTHS OF GENERAL FUND EXPENDITURES.

WE GENERALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT TO BE 25% OR HIGHER, WHICH IS THREE MONTHS OR HIGHER.

SO YOU'RE WELL ABOVE WHAT WE NORMALLY LIKE TO SEE THAT.

SO WE ALWAYS LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT IN OUR PRESENTATIONS.

GENERAL FUND REVENUES JUST UNDER $91.5 MILLION.

THAT INCLUDES SALES TAX REVENUE OF $18,975,883.

EXPENDITURES OF 103.3 MILLION. NET TRANSFERS IN A $4.5 MILLION.

THAT'S A NET DECREASE OF $7.3 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE YEAR ENDED SEPTEMBER 30TH.

ENTERPRISE FUNDS. WATER. SEWER. JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW.

TOTAL ASSETS AT SEPTEMBER 30TH. 335.8 MILLION.

TOTAL LIABILITIES 117.9 MILLION. TOTAL REVENUES 59.5 MILLION.

TOTAL EXPENDITURES 52.7 MILLION. INTEREST INCOME AND EXPENSE.

AND THAT'S TO A POSITIVE 226,000, CONTRIBUTIONS FROM DEVELOPERS.

DEVELOPERS 3.9 MILLION AND IMPACT FEES $715,978 TRANSFERS OUT OF $2.3 MILLION.

LIKE I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, THE TOWN DID SPEND MORE THAN $750,000 IN FEDERAL GRANT MONEY, SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO AN ADDITIONAL AUDIT, A COMPLIANCE AUDIT ALSO CALLED A SINGLE AUDIT.

AND WE LOOK AT YOUR INTERNAL CONTROLS AND PROCESSES OVER GRANT MONEY.

DO YOU HAVE GOOD PROCEDURES IN PLACE TO SPEND THAT GRANT MONEY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU SPEND IT ON WHAT YOU HAVE TO.

AND YOU DON'T SPEND IT ON WHAT YOU CAN'T. AND THEN WE TEST AN ACTUAL SAMPLE OF TRANSACTIONS LOOKING FOR ANY ACTUAL NONCOMPLIANCE WITH GRANTS.

THE MAJORITY OF THE TOWN'S FEDERAL FUNDS WAS THE COVID 19 CORONA STATE AND LOCAL FISCAL RECOVERY FUNDS PROGRAM.

AND CONSISTENT WITH OUR FINANCIAL STATEMENT AUDIT OVER THE ACFR.

WE HAD NO FINDINGS EITHER WITH INTERNAL CONTROLS OR WITH ACTUAL COMPLIANCE ITSELF.

SO NO ISSUES WITH GRANT COMPLIANCE. THAT'S ALL I HAD TONIGHT.

I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE STAFF OF THE TOWN. WE WORK PRIMARILY WITH JOHN AND MARY AND THEIR ASSISTANCE IS IMPECCABLE AND REALLY WELL DONE. THESE AUDITS ARE INTENSE. THEY GET A LITTLE LONGER EVERY YEAR AS NEW RULES COME OUT.

AND THEY NEVER TAKE RULES AWAY, BUT THEY ADD NEW RULES.

AND I LOOKED AT THE REQUEST LIST THAT WE ENDED UP, AND IT WAS WELL OVER 100 ITEMS THAT WE ASKED FOR, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF GETTING IT TO US, USUALLY AHEAD OF WHEN WE NEED IT.

SO, IT LETS US GET IN AND GET OUR WORK DONE AND GET OUT.

SO I WANTED TO COMMEND THEM IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR THAT THE JOHN AND MARY AND THEIR STAFF DID AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB THIS YEAR.

I BELIEVE IT. WITH THAT, I'D BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR THAT'S ALL I HAVE THIS EVENING.

AND DO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH YOU.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. OH, YEAH.

IF MARY COULD COME BACK UP. SO, MARY, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND SOMETIMES DURING ELECTION SEASON, WE'LL HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC THAT OUR THAT WE'RE SPENDING MORE THAN WE COLLECT IN REVENUES.

AND IT'S AN UNDERSTANDABLE THAT THEY WOULD FEEL THAT WAY BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR BUDGET IT ALMOST ALWAYS PROJECTS. WELL IT ALWAYS PROJECTS REVENUES IN EXCESS OR EXPENDITURES IN EXCESS OF REVENUE. AND THEN YOU GO TO THE YEAR BEFORE AND IT LOOKS THE SAME AND THE YEAR BEFORE AND IT LOOKS THE SAME. AND I KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS, THAT WE DON'T SPEND ALL THE MONEY OR IT'S MULTI-YEAR AND THINGS CARRY OVER. BUT WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS DOCUMENT, WHICH IS QUITE LARGE, AND IT FEELS LIKE YOU HAVE TO BE A CPA TO REALLY UNDERSTAND THIS. WHAT SHOULD I DIRECT SOMEONE TO SAY, HERE ON THIS SPREADSHEET, YOU CAN SEE OUR REVENUES AND OUR EXPENDITURES AND WE

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OKAY, SO AN ACFR PRESENTS INFORMATION IN MULTIPLE WAYS.

THE BASIC FINANCIALS START OUT WITH GOVERNMENT WIDE ACCOUNTING.

AND THAT'S DONE ON A BASIS OF ACCOUNTING AND A MEASUREMENT FOCUS THAT'S MORE LIKE A CORPORATION.

IT'S MORE LIKE PROFIT AND LOSS. AND IT'S THE SAME WAY THE PROPRIETARY FUNDS ARE PRESENTED.

BUT THE BUDGET IS DONE MORE LIKE OUR FUND, OUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS ARE DONE.

THEY'RE DONE ON A BASIS OF CURRENT FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND A MEASUREMENT FOCUS OF.

ACTUALLY, I THINK I GOT THOSE BACKWARDS.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE 34, THAT'S A SUMMARY OF OUR GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS, AND THEY ARE DONE ON THE CURRENT FINANCIAL RESOURCES AND MEASUREMENT FOCUS. AND THEY ARE NOT DONE ON ECONOMIC RESOURCES THE WAY THE BASIC FINANCIALS ARE UP FRONT.

SO, IF YOU TURN BACK TO PAGE 29, 30 AND 31, THOSE ARE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES THAT ARE PRESENTED MORE LIKE A CORPORATION. AND THEY ARE ALSO SUMMARIZED IN THE MANAGEMENT DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS, WHICH IS A LITTLE QUICKER AND EASIER THAN TRYING TO LOOK AT A TWO PAGE STATEMENT OF ACTIVITY.

AND YOU CAN SEE THOSE ON PAGES 22 AND 23, THE LITTLE SUMMARY IN THE MDNA.

AND THAT IS A VERY EXCELLENT PLACE TO SHOW OUR, OUR CITIZENS THAT WE ACTUALLY INCREASED OUR NET POSITION ON THE GOVERNMENTAL SIDE OF ABOUT 20 MILLION AND INCREASED IT ON THE BUSINESS SIDE OF ABOUT 6.9 MILLION ON THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.

BACK OVER ON PAGE 34. IF YOU SKIP DOWN TO THE NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCES, YOU'LL SEE THAT ON ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT THAT WE VERY NEARLY BROKE EVEN JUST SLIGHTLY ABOVE BREAKING EVEN WITH $56,132 CHANGE.

THAT WAS NOT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WHEN THE BUDGET WAS PASSED.

BUT BUDGETS ARE NOT COMPLETELY STATIC. AS YOU KNOW, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS DURING THE YEAR.

IF, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU LOOK AT THE GENERAL FUND, WHICH IS THE MAIN OPERATING FUND OF THE TOWN, AND THAT'S WHAT MOST CITIZENS ARE INTERESTED IN, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE NET CHANGE IN FUND BALANCE, THERE WAS A -7.3 MILLION, AND THAT PRIMARILY WAS BECAUSE OF A LAND PURCHASE THIS YEAR OF 7.5 MILLION.

THAT WAS IN A BUDGET AMENDMENT. SO IT WAS IT CHANGED OUR FINAL BUDGET, NOT THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED ORIGINALLY.

AND ALONG WITH THAT, THERE'S SOME OTHER INTERESTING THINGS ON THIS PAGE.

THAT LAND IS CONSIDERED AN EXPENDITURE FOR THE BUDGET AND AN EXPENDITURE IN THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS.

BUT BACK ON THE GOVERNMENT WIDE THAT I FIRST TALKED ABOUT, IT'S NOT AN EXPENDITURE, IT'S JUST AN EXCHANGE OF ONE ASSET FOR ANOTHER CASH FOR LAND.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT BACK THERE WE HAD, OH, A 20 MILLION INCREASE IN NET POSITION.

AND OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, JUST BARELY 56,000. WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE DIFFERENT METHODS OF ACCOUNTING.

SO EACH ONE APPEALS TO DIFFERENT USERS OF THE FINANCIALS IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AS FAR AS THE BUDGET GOES AND WHY PEOPLE ASK YOU MENTIONED THE MULTI FUND AND THAT'S USED FOR CAPITAL PROJECTS.

ON THIS PAGE YOU CAN SEE THE CAPITAL GENERAL CAPITAL PROJECTS IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN.

AND THEY HAD A NET DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE OF 2.3 MILLION.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THAT WE HAD DEBT SERVICE AND A SLIGHT DECREASE IN FUND BALANCE THERE.

YET OVER THE TIRZ FUND IT HAD AN INCREASE IN FUND BALANCE.

AND OTHER GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS ALL PUT TOGETHER HAD A $6.5 MILLION INCREASE.

SO, MARY, IF YOU GO BACK A COUPLE OF SLIDES IN THIS PRESENTATION WHERE WE HAD THE GENERAL FUND REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES.

THE. YES. THIS ONE. OKAY. SO YOU JUST MENTIONED THAT ON PAGE 34.

SO WE HAVE REVENUES OF 91 MILLION AND EXPENDITURES OF 103 MILLION.

SO IT WOULD BE REASONABLE TO SAY, WELL, HANG ON A SECOND.

YOU'RE SPENDING MORE THAN YOU TOOK IN IN REVENUE.

BUT THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE USE FUND BALANCE, WHICH IS OUR SAVINGS ACCOUNT, ESSENTIALLY TO PURCHASE LAND IN WEST FLOWER MOUND

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AND THEN THAT IS NOW LAND THAT'S POTENTIALLY FOR SALE.

AND THEN WE'LL GET THAT MONEY BACK. SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS ON PAGE 23 WHERE WE KIND OF HAVE A SUMMARY, WE CAN SEE THAT THAT EXPENDITURE IS CONVERTED INTO A LAND ASSET.

AND THEN THAT'S WHY IT SHOWS US IN, IN BETTER OFF NET POSITION THAN WE WERE THEN.

IF YOU JUST LOOKED AT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS OUT OF THAT, IS THAT ACCURATE? RIGHT. OKAY. SEE YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE A CPA. OKAY.

BECAUSE I. ALL RIGHT. SO, PAGE 23 HAS A REALLY GOOD SUMMARY.

I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR.

I'M THAT'S I REALLY APPRECIATE I KNOW THERE'S A, THERE'S AN ACFR IN BRIEF THAT COMES OUT AT SOME POINT TOO, WHICH KIND OF DISTILLS THIS DOWN A LITTLE BIT. YEAH. WE ARE PLANNING TO DO ONE OF THOSE THIS THIS YEAR.

IF YOU'RE PEOPLE YOU'RE TALKING TO REALLY WANT TO SEE HOW THE BUDGET COMPARES TO THE ACTUAL SPENDING, THOSE PAGES, THERE ARE STATEMENTS IN THIS FOR THAT.

ALSO, THE GENERAL FUND IS THE FIRST PAGE IN THE REQUIRED SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION ON PAGE 83, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT IT MATCHES THE GOVERNMENTAL FUNDS EXPENDITURES AND REVENUES ON PAGE 34.

BUT IT WILL ALSO AND THOSE ACTUAL AMOUNTS ARE IN THE MIDDLE COLUMN MARKED ACTUAL GAAP.

BUT YOU'LL ALSO SEE THE BUDGET NEXT TO IT TO THE LEFT, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AT THE FAR LEFT, AND THEN THE AMENDED BUDGET JUST NEXT TO THAT.

AND THEN ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THE VARIANCE WITH THE BUDGET SO PEOPLE CAN DIRECTLY TIE IT EXACTLY BACK TO WHAT THE BUDGET WAS.

AND THEN, IF THEY'RE WONDERING WHY THE EXPENDITURES WENT FROM 88 MILLION ORIGINALLY TO 103 MILLION AMENDED, THAT'S EXPLAINED ABOUT TWO PAGES BACK, PAGE 85 AND 86, ABOUT HALFWAY DOWN, PAGE 85, ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE END OF 86. IT'S IT'S WORDED DIRECTLY FROM THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

SO THE TENTS WILL SOUND, WILL WILL SOUND LIKE IT'S IN THE FUTURE.

BUT IT HAS HAPPENED. IT'S IN THE PAST. AND THAT EXPLAINS EXACTLY WHY THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS AND THE LAND SALE, THE LAND PURCHASE IS IN THERE, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER THINGS.

A LARGE PART OF AMENDING THE BUDGET IS AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WHEN ENCUMBRANCES ARE CARRIED OVER.

THIS IS MONEY THAT WAS COMMITTED IN THE PREVIOUS FISCAL YEAR, BUT PERHAPS BACK ORDERED OR FOR SOME OTHER REASON THE EXPENDITURES WERE NOT MADE YET, AND EVERY YEAR THAT'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. IT WASN'T SPENT IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET.

AND SO WE ROLL OR AMEND THE NEW THE NEW BUDGET YEAR WITH THAT AMOUNT AND NOT ALL THE PURCHASE ORDERS.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE CANCELED OR VOIDED, BUT ESPECIALLY FOR CIP AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY GET ROLLED.

THANK YOU, MARY. AND IF I COULD, I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO SOMETHING THAT MARY PUT OUT.

THERE IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JOHN AND MELISSA AND I HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING.

THE CONCEPT THAT MARY IS ALLUDING TO IS CALLED A PATH FOR A POPULAR ANNUAL FINANCIAL REPORT, AND IT DISTILLS THIS INFORMATION IN SIMPLER TERMS FOR THE LAYPERSON TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT.

I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GET FIXATED ON THE BUDGET.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THAT'S WHAT WE ANTICIPATE DOING.

THE ACFR TALKS ABOUT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DID AND FISCAL TRANSPARENCY IS IMPORTANT.

AND SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IN THE FUTURE, IS TO DO THAT PATH FIRST, SO THAT THE LAYPERSON CAN BE ABLE TO DISTILL ALL THIS INFORMATION WITHIN OUR ACFR. AND THE OTHER THING TOO, I JUST WANT TO ALSO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY JUST TO THANK MARY AND TEAM JOHN, WHO'S OUT ON VACATION THIS WEEK. THEY WORKED VERY HARD AND FLOWER MOUND HAS ALWAYS BEEN IN A POSITION HISTORICALLY WHERE WE HAVE CLEAN AUDITS.

WE HAVE GOOD FISCAL STEWARDSHIP. BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE ME VERY LONG TO READ WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU AREN'T AND YOU HAVE A BAD AUDIT AND THINGS THAT AND I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO TAKE THAT FOR GRANTED. JUST THE FACT THAT OUR FINANCIAL DEPARTMENT DOES AN AMAZING JOB OF BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR PUBLIC FUNDS.

THANK YOU, JAMES. IT'S A BIG TEAM EFFORT BECAUSE THE FINANCIALS AT THE END OF THE YEAR ARE JUST TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN RECORDED DURING THE YEAR. SO ALL THE DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE BRINGING IN MONEY AND DEPOSITING IT, THEY'RE ALL DOING A GOOD JOB THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.

FINANCE IS JUST PUTTING THE NUMBERS TOGETHER AT THE END.

SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME OR FOR IKE BAILEY? OKAY. THANK YOU. DO Y'ALL HAVE ANY MORE? OKAY.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO YOU ALL NEED TO DISCUSS THIS ANYMORE? OKAY. DO YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM J1 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OKAY. THERESA IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW.

AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.

AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. WARNER. AYE. OKAY. THE ANNUAL COMPREHENSIVE FINANCIAL REPORT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

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[J.2. Green Waste Pilot Program Results - Discuss the results of the 2024 Green Waste Pilot Program and provide staff with direction for the next steps.]

AND SHELLEY WILSON, YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING THIS.

SHELLEY, CAN I JUMP IN FRONT OF YOU REAL QUICK? I WANT TO DO SOMETHING REAL QUICK. THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE SHELLEY'S LAST PRESENTATION WITH THE TOWN.

I'M NOT GOING TO LET HER GET AWAY. SO, SHELLEY'S RETIRING AFTER 25 YEARS, AND DURING THAT TIME, SHE'S WORN A LOT OF HATS FOR THE TOWN AND SERVED OUR RESIDENTS VERY WELL.

SO IT'D BE REMISS. I'M NOT GOING TO LET YOU GET AWAY SCOTT FREE.

SO NOW YOU CAN GO. SHELLEY. OKAY. CONGRATULATIONS.

REALLY HARD. THANK YOU. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M HERE TO PRESENT TO YOU ITEM J TWO TO DISCUSS THE RESULTS OF THE 2024 GREEN WASTE PILOT PROGRAM AND HOPEFULLY GET SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ON WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE NEXT. IN THE BACKGROUND HISTORY OF THIS ITEM YOU'LL SEE A LINK EMBEDDED IN THERE THAT'S DATED DECEMBER 4TH, 2023. THAT AT THAT MEETING IS WHEN WE RECEIVE DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A GREEN WASTE PILOT PROGRAM.

WE WERE GIVEN SOME OPTIONS FROM REPUBLIC, AND WE MADE A DECISION TO DO A PILOT PROGRAM IN OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER OF 2024. AND AT THE END OF THAT PROGRAM, A SURVEY WAS SENT TO RESIDENTS AND THAT COMPLETED SURVEY. THE RESIDENTS THAT COMPLETED THE SURVEY, THOSE SURVEY RESULTS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION.

SO I WORKED ON THIS WITH MATT WOODS, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, AND ALSO TOMMY DALTON.

HE PUT TOGETHER THE LAST AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU ALL SAW IN DECEMBER OF 2023.

SO, WE NEED TO GIVE HIM HIS PROPS FOR THAT BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION IN THERE.

THIS THE GREEN WASTE HAS BEEN DISCUSSED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

I KNOW THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION, IT'S BEEN AN INTEREST OF THEIRS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. AND SO, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID OUR DUE DILIGENCE WITH THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

AND WITH THAT, I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU JERRI HARWELL WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES, AND SHE'S GOING TO GO THROUGH THE POWERPOINT FOR YOU.

AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THE END, JUST LET US KNOW.

MR. CHILDERS. THAT'S NOT VERY NICE TO MAKE ME START CRYING BEFORE I'M REALLY GOING TO MISS SHELLY AND HAVE REALLY APPRECIATED WORKING WITH HER. SO, SHELLY'S RETIREMENT IS GOING TO BE A HUGE LOSS TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

SO WE'LL JUST START THERE. SO NOW WE'LL DRY UP MY TEARS AND I'LL GIVE YOU THE REST OF THE STORY.

JERRI HARWELL, 551 HUFFINES BOULEVARD, LEWISVILLE, TEXAS, IS OUR OFFICE, SO WE CHOSE THE ROUTES WITH THE BETWEEN REPUBLIC AND STAFF. WE WANTED TO DO ONE ROUTE FOR EACH DAY OF THE WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

WE RECOMMENDED OCTOBER, NOVEMBER OR MARCH OR APRIL.

AT THE TIME THAT WE CHOSE THIS, WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE LEAVES WILL FALL IN DECEMBER BECAUSE WE LIVE IN TEXAS, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS. WE STILL HAVE RESULTS. A LETTER WAS SENT TO EACH RESIDENT AFTER THE ROUTES WERE CHOSEN, WITH THE DATES AND EXPLANATION, ALL OF THE INSTRUCTIONS ON WHAT TO DO.

IT WAS ALSO PUT ON THE TOWN WEBSITE TO PROVIDE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.

WE DID A DEDICATED EMAIL ADDRESS, AND THOSE EMAILS CAME DIRECTLY TO ME IF RESIDENTS HAD ANY QUESTIONS.

WE TRACK THE TONNAGE AND THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS FOR EACH ROUTE.

AND THE MATERIAL DID GO TO LIVING EARTH AND FLOWER MOUND.

WE DID A FOLLOW UP SURVEY WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND WE'LL GET INTO THE RESULTS AND HOW THAT CAME OUT.

I'LL JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW THESE WERE THE ROUTES THAT WERE CHOSEN ON MONDAY THAT REPRESENTS 831 HOMES.

TUESDAY THAT REPRESENTED 927. WEDNESDAY 788. THURSDAY 393.

ANYBODY ON COUNCIL KNOW WHY THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S TECHNICALLY THE 1171.

CONSERVATION DISTRICT. AND SO THE LOTS ARE A LOT LARGER AND THERE'S FEWER HOMES OUT THERE.

SO JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. AND THEN ON FRIDAY IT WAS 1082.

AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS THIS IS A THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE SOME TOWNHOMES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

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SO, THIS WAS AN EXAMPLE OF THE MAILERS THAT WENT TO THE RESIDENTS AND THEN THE WEEKLY PARTICIPATION DATA.

JUST THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION ON HERE, BUT WE COUNTED THE NUMBER OF HOUSES THAT PARTICIPATED ON EACH DAY OF THE WEEK.

AND I'LL GO INTO THAT A LITTLE FURTHER IN JUST A SECOND.

AND THEN I DO WANT TO POINT OUT TO YOU THAT THERE WAS ABSOLUTELY NO CHANGE IN THE BULK TONNAGE WHEN WE TOOK SOME OF THAT GREEN WASTE OUT AND TOOK IT TO THE RECYCLE FACILITY. SO BULK TONNAGE DID NOT CHANGE.

SO HERE'S A SUMMARY OF THE RESULTS. AND SO I DID SOME QUICK MATH OVER HERE.

SO THE TOTAL NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS IN THE PILOT AREAS WAS 4021.

BUT WHAT THAT REPRESENTED WAS EACH ONE OF THOSE HOUSE COUNTS I GAVE YOU JUST A SECOND AGO.

SO ON MONDAY, WE ACTUALLY GAVE THOSE RESIDENTS 5817 OPPORTUNITIES TO PUT OUT GREEN WASTE. AND WE HAD ABOUT 75 PARTICIPANTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 3%.

ON TUESDAY, THEY HAD 7416 OPPORTUNITIES, WITH 128 PARTICIPATING, GIVING US 1.8%. ON WEDNESDAY. SAME CONCEPT THAT I USED ALL THE WAY THROUGH 1.5% ON THURSDAY, THREE AND A HALF AND THEN ON FRIDAY 1.2.

SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE PARTICIPATION, THE NUMBER OF HOUSES AND KIND OF WHAT THAT REPRESENTS.

OUR TOTAL CUBIC YARDS COLLECTED IN OCTOBER 187.

NOVEMBER 178. WE HAD 138 SURVEY PARTICIPANTS, WHICH IS A PRETTY LOW NUMBER CONSIDERING HOW WE HAD 4000 HOMES, OVER 4000 HOMES IN THAT AREA.

THESE WERE THE RESPONSES OVERALL OF OF THE RESPONDENTS.

VERY SATISFIED. SATISFIED. SATISFIED. THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE QUESTIONS FREQUENCY OF PICKUPS THE USE OF THE MULCH BAGS IF THEY WERE EASY TO PURCHASE.

SORRY, I GET WHEN I GET HOT AND I FEEL LIKE I'M ON THE HOT SEAT TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN.

WE STARTED THIS IN 2009, I BELIEVE. SO IT GOES BACK A LITTLE BIT.

SO JUST OVERALL HOW SATISFIED THEY WERE WITH THE PROGRAM BEING ON THE SAME DAY AS TRASH AND RECYCLE THE SATISFIED WITH FOUR CUBIC YARDS. AND THEN IF THEY HAD QUESTIONS, DID WE RESPOND? IF THEY HAD QUESTIONS ON RESPONSE TIME, WE DIDN'T HAVE VERY MANY OF THOSE.

BUT OVERALL SATISFIED, VERY SATISFIED. VERY SATISFIED, SATISFIED.

WE HAD 84, ABOUT 85% OUT OF THE 138. AND THEN WHETHER OR NOT ABOUT 89% WANTED US TO EXPLORE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND TO EXPLORE, AND WHAT WOULD THEY BE WILLING TO PAY A DOLLAR TO $3 AND THEN 3 TO $5? IT'S PRETTY LOW.

44% ARE GOOD WITH 1 TO $3, BUT 42% DON'T WANT TO SEE AN INCREASE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE PROGRAM.

SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT TO CONSIDER.

SO THERE ARE SEVERAL THINGS TO THINK ABOUT. IT WOULD ADD BRAND NEW TRUCKS.

THAT MEANS ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEES, ADDITIONAL TRUCK ON THE ROADS, WHICH IS ADDITIONAL WEAR AND TEAR ON THE ON THE STREETS.

ADDITIONAL EMISSIONS. I BELIEVE COUNCILMAN TAYLOR HAD ASKED ME ABOUT THAT BEFORE, AND I WENT BACK AND IT IS WE BURN 3 TO 4 GALLONS PER HOUR. SO IF YOU TAKE THAT OVER, HOWEVER MANY TRUCKS WE'D HAVE TO HAVE EVERY DAY, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. WE COULD CONSIDER AN ADDITIONAL CART.

LIKE, YOU HAVE A TRASH CART, AND YOU HAVE A RECYCLE CART.

YOU COULD HAVE A GREEN WASTE CART. WHICH WOULD REDUCE THE COST OF THE BAGS TO THE RESIDENTS.

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THAT'S TODAY. I CAN'T GUARANTEE WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

LATER. BUT HERE'S THE THING THAT THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS THAT YOU COULD DO THIS.

SO YOU COULD DO IT TO WHERE YOU ONLY DO IT IN THE SPRING AND THE FALL.

AND THEN DURING THAT TIME WE REDUCED BULK AND WE FOCUS ON GREENWAY.

SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF WAYS THAT THIS COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER DEPENDING UPON WHICH DIRECTION COUNCIL WANTS TO GO.

THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME RESIDENT BEHAVIOR CHANGES.

SO LEAVES AND GRASS CLIPPINGS WILL NEED TO BE IN MULCH BAGS.

THE COST IS APPROXIMATELY $0.54 PER BAG. OKAY, HONESTLY, I GOOGLED IT.

IT DEPENDS 100% HOW MANY YOU BUY AT A TIME. ALL OF THAT.

SO THAT COST COULD END UP BEING HIGHER. IT COULD END UP BEING LOWER.

THERE'S REALLY NOT A WAY FOR ME TO DO THAT. AND THAT'S BASED ON TODAY'S PRICES.

BUNDLED BRUSH. THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE WIRE.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO USE ROPE. YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE CAN MULCH.

SO THOUGH THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A BEHAVIOR CHANGE.

EDUCATE RESIDENTS ON THE BENEFITS OF MULCHING BACK INTO THEIR YARD LIKE I DO.

BULK AND GREEN WASTE WILL NEED TO BE SEPARATED.

SO THAT MEANS IN AN AVERAGE DRIVEWAY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A RECYCLE CART, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRASH CART, AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE BULK AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE GREEN WASTE IF YOU DO IT ALL ON THE SAME DAY.

SO BECAUSE WE DO SERVICE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY YOU CAN'T REALLY LIKE, TAKE A GREEN WASTE DAY, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN SOME OF THE OTHER CITIES THAT ACTUALLY DO HAVE GREEN WASTE PROGRAMS. SO THERE IT IS IN A NUTSHELL. SO YOU GUYS LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS I DO. SO HAVE YOU RUN THE NUMBERS FOR IF WE DIDN'T DO THE BAGS AND WE DID A CONTAINER FOR THE GREEN WASTE, WOULD IT BE ABOUT THE SAME BETWEEN THE THREE AND $5? RIGHT. IT WOULD BE. BUT SO AGAIN I WILL TELL YOU.

SO YOUR CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY UP NEXT YEAR. AND SO THIS COULD BE A HOW WE WANT THE SERVICE TO WORK TO NEGOTIATE AND THEN COME BACK WITH FINAL NUMBERS AFTER WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE VARIOUS OPTIONS.

BUT IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SAY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE.

OKAY. AND ONE MORE. IF YOU DID IT AT PEAK TIMES WHEN YOU THOUGHT THAT THERE WOULD BE THE MOST GREEN GREEN WASTE, ARE YOU THINKING IT WOULD BE LEAVES? AND IN THE HEIGHT OF SUMMER BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF RAIN AND PEOPLE ARE ARE MOWING THEIR GRASS MORE? I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE IDEAS FOR HOW YOU WOULD IMPLEMENT THAT PLAN.

IT WOULD BE PRIMARILY IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT SPRING AND FALL.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT PRIMARILY AT BRANCHES AND AND LEAVES.

GRASS CLIPPINGS. I DIDN'T EVEN REALLY FACTOR THAT INTO THERE.

UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T MULCH MY LEAF, MY GRASS EITHER.

I DON'T, I DON'T EITHER. I LEAVE IT IN. YEAH.

SO I YEAH. SO I DIDN'T FACTOR THAT IN. OKAY. THANK YOU.

JERRY, HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE FACT THAT THE BOLT TONNAGE DIDN'T CHANGE? HOW DO I WHAT? HOW DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT? LIKE, ARE THEY WITHOUT THIS SERVICE? ARE THEY NOT THROWING THIS GREEN WASTE AWAY, OR ARE THEY TAKING FREEING UP SPACE IN THEIR DUMPSTER THAT THEY'RE JUST USING FOR OTHER THINGS NOW? SO WITHOUT THIS PROGRAM, IT'S GOING TO THE LANDFILL.

BUT IF THE BULK TONNAGE DIDN'T CHANGE, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE LANDFILL THEN SOME OTHER TRASH WOULD HAVE BEEN HAS TAKEN UP THE PLACE OF THIS GREEN WASTE THAT WENT TO IT WAS SUCH A SMALL AMOUNT OF HOUSEHOLDS PARTICIPATING, SO IT'S JUST THE SMALL NUMBER OF IT MAYBE CHANGED THE BULK TONNAGE BY 1% OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WASN'T MEASURABLE. I MEAN, IT WAS NOT AT ALL MEASURABLE.

OKAY. WE STILL HAD THE SAME TONNAGE. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IF YOU HAD COME TO MY HOUSE ON AN OCTOBER, THAT I WOULD HAVE HAD ANY GREEN WASTE TO THROW AWAY, BUT IN DECEMBER WE OR IN JANUARY WE HAVE A PRETTY SUCCESSFUL CHRISTMAS TREE DROP OFF PROGRAM. AND IS THERE SOME KIND OF A SELF-SERVICE OPTION WHERE PEOPLE COULD BRING THEIR GREEN WASTE AND DROP IT OFF LIKE THEY DO WITH THEIR CHRISTMAS TREE? I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR LIVING EARTH, BUT I BELIEVE THE TOWN ACTUALLY HAS AN AGREEMENT WITH LIVING EARTH, AND I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT SO WELL. JERRY, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD WANT TO DRIVE ALL THE WAY DOWN THERE, BECAUSE IT'S QUITE FAR FOR MOST OF THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN.

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THEY'RE AT OUR ARLINGTON LANDFILL. AND BECAUSE THEY OPENED THE FLOWER MOUND FACILITY, THEY'RE NOT AT OUR LEWISVILLE LANDFILL.

SO, I MEAN, THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD DROP IT OFF.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YOU'RE SAYING WITH THIS PROGRAM, IT WOULD BE DEFINITELY A 3 TO $5 INCREASE PER MONTH? I CAN'T STAND HERE AND SAY ABSOLUTELY. DEFINITELY.

I WAS ASKED, YOU'RE LOOKING AT. OKAY, I WAS ASKED TO GIVE YOU A NUMBER.

AND SO THAT'S THE BEST THAT I COULD COME UP WITH.

AND HOW DOING AN EDUCATIONAL PROGRAM. HOW EFFECTIVE IS THAT IN REDUCING THE COST TO RESIDENTS? DO YOU FIND THAT THAT'S EFFECTIVE. AND HOW DO WE GET OUT THE EDUCATION? HOW DO YOU DO THAT? TYPICALLY IT WOULD BE MAILED OUT.

WE WOULD DO FACEBOOK. IT WOULD BE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.

WE WOULD WORK WITH KEEP FLOWER MOUND BEAUTIFUL.

I MEAN, WE WE HIT EVERY SPOT WE POSSIBLY CAN.

YOU ASKED ME ABOUT HOW EFFECTIVE EDUCATION IS.

ABOUT AS EFFECTIVE AS EVERYTHING ELSE YOU EDUCATE THE RESIDENTS ON TO REDUCE THAT COST.

I MEAN, YEAH, I MEAN, YOU'RE. HOW DO WE MEASURE THAT? HOW DO WE KNOW? I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO. I CAN'T KNOCK ON THE DOORS AND MAKE PEOPLE READ IT.

YEAH. SO I THINK THAT'S WITH ANY PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE IN THE TOWN.

DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO MY NEIGHBORHOOD WAS IN THE TUESDAY GROUP, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON OUR LITTLE PRIVATE FACEBOOK PAGE.

AND THEY WANT TO KNOW WHAT WAS IT? I THOUGHT THE LETTER WAS GOOD.

I THOUGHT EXPLAINED IT REALLY WELL. ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK WAS PEOPLE WERE LIKE, OH, THAT'S SO COOL, BUT THEY DIDN'T REALLY THINK THEY WERE GOING TO BE USING IT MUCH.

THEY SOME PEOPLE HAVE LAWN SERVICE TAKES AWAY THE STUFF.

AND THEN THEY DIDN'T WANT TO PAY FOR IT. AND THEY'RE LIKE, WELL, IS IT FREE? I WAS LIKE, NO, NO, IT'S NOT FREE. SO, I DID A LITTLE MATH TOO, AND I WAS KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW, ONE CUBIC YARD DIDN'T REALLY MEAN THAT MUCH TO ME.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOW BIG IT IS, BUT WHAT IT WHAT IS IT? SO, IF I DID THE MATH RIGHT, WHICH. JAMES, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE LOOKED TO SEE IF I DID THE MATH RIGHT, BUT BASED ON POINT ONE FIVE CUBIC YARDS PER TYPICAL 30 GALLON BAG, THAT'S 6.7 BAGS IS ONE CUBIC YARD.

SO, BASED ON THE MATH OF A ROUGHLY 24,000 HOMES IN FLOWER MOUND AND BASED ON THE AVERAGE OF WHAT WE SAW, OBVIOUSLY IT WILL FLUCTUATE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT WOULD BE JUST OVER 1000YD³ YARDS PER MONTH.

AND THAT WAS OCTOBER, NOVEMBER. SO I DID A LITTLE COST ANALYSIS AND DEPENDING ON IF WE GO ON THE $3 OR THE $5, IT'S $65.75 PER CUBIC YARD, ALL THE WAY UP TO $109.59 PER CUBIC YARD, WHICH MEANS IT'S $9.81 PER BAG ON THE LOW END TO $16.36 ON THE HIGH END.

AND BASED ON THE FACT THAT 97% OF PEOPLE DID NOT USE IT, BUT 100% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD BANG FOR THE BUCK RIGHT NOW.

I MEAN, 100% OF THE PEOPLE HAVE TO PAY FOR 3% OF PEOPLE TO USE A SERVICE.

CAN I RESPOND TO YOUR MAP? YES, PLEASE. OKAY.

SO, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE COST OF THOSE TRUCKS IS $300,000.

OH I DO, YES. THE HOURLY RATE FOR A DRIVER IS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 25 AND $32 AN HOUR.

I GOT A UNIFORM. WE GOT BENEFIT. I MEAN, I HAVE TO PUT ALL OF THAT COST IN THERE, AND WE CAN'T JUST FLY THE TRUCK OVER THE AREAS TO PICK UP THE GREENWAY, SO WE HAVE TO DRIVE BY EVERY HOUSE.

SO YES, IT IS EXPENSIVE. I'VE BEEN IN THIS INDUSTRY A VERY LONG TIME, AND THERE WAS A TIME THAT RECYCLE WAS FREE.

THE COST OF THAT, YOU KNOW, CAME DOWN OVER THE YEARS, AND THEN THE COST OF IT WENT BACK UP.

SO I AGREE. I'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION WITH RESIDENTS THAT DON'T RECYCLE.

BUT THEY STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. I THINK THIS WOULD BE A A BIGGER THING.

DO I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE MORE PARTICIPATION TOWN WIDE, HIGHER NUMBERS? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE YOU'RE INTRODUCING A BRAND NEW SERVICE.

DO I THINK IT'S WORTH 3 TO $5 TO THE RESIDENTS.

ONLY YOUR RESIDENTS CAN ANSWER THAT. IF IT'S KIND OF LIKE THE TOWN HAS OTHER FEES.

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I GET IT, THE TOWN HAS TO FUNCTION, RIGHT? TO SAVE LANDFILL SPACE, WE HAVE TO DECIDE HOW IMPORTANT IT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT TO RECYCLE IT OR FILL THE LANDFILL UP QUICKER SO THAT WE HAVE TO DRIVE FURTHER OUT FOR A LANDFILL.

YOU JUST HAVE TO TAKE, YOU KNOW, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS TO BALANCE IT.

THAT'S YOUR JOB. MY JOB IS TO PRESENT YOU WITH THE FACTS.

YOUR JOB IS TO VOTE. AND I APPRECIATE THE COST.

I MEAN, YOU'RE RUNNING A BUSINESS. I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO IT FOR FREE.

I LOVE THAT YOU BRING ALL THE NUMBERS SO WE AND CAN THE RESIDENTS CAN SEE.

YES, THERE IS A COST ASSOCIATED, SO. RIGHT. YEAH.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S JUSTIFIED AT THIS TIME.

AND CAN I JUST ASK ONE QUESTION BASED ON THAT? AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. THE IDEA OF THE TRUCK IS A CERTAIN AMOUNT STAFF AND RUNNING THIS PART TIME OR JUST CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR IS THAT EVEN YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IT'S FALL AND SPRING IS RUNNING AT ONE MONTH A YEAR AN OPTION OR IS IT LIKE YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT ALL 12 MONTHS.

AND SO PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD DO, PROBABLY WHAT WE WOULD ASK THE TOWN TO DO DURING THAT IS TO SUSPEND BULK OR MAKE BULK, LIKE MAKE GREEN WASTE THREE TIMES THAT MONTH AND BULK ONE TIME.

I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME GIVE AND TAKE, BUT IT'S KIND OF REPUBLIC STAFF.

WE NEED THE DIRECTION OF THE COUNCIL. HOW YOU WANT US TO REALLY PUT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS TO THIS AND WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO.

WELL, NO, I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION. SO THE ONLY TIME WHERE I'VE SEEN A DOZEN BROWN BAGS LINED UP IS IN DECEMBER, WHEN EVERYONE'S BREAKING UP THEIR LEAVES AND PACKAGING THEM UP. AND IF THE TRUCK COULD COME BY DURING THAT WINDOW OF TIME, THEY WOULD KEEP A LOT OF BULK TONNAGE OUT OF THE LANDFILL.

BUT WE DON'T REALLY NEED IT THE REST OF THE YEAR.

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN, OCCASIONALLY SOMEBODY WILL CUT A TREE DOWN AND IT'LL BE OUT. WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT. I SEE A LOT OF BROWN BAGS LINED UP IN THE SPRING BECAUSE THERE'S LEAVES ARE GROWING, NOT FALLING. AND SO MAYBE NOT. I'LL LOOK FOR IT THIS YEAR.

BUT IF YOU CAN'T HAVE A TRUCK RUN IN ONE DAY, ONE MONTH A YEAR.

SO I GET THAT PROBLEM. AND I'M NOT SURE THAT TRADING BULK FOR GREEN WASTE IS GOING TO BE WELL RECEIVED, BECAUSE I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE USE BULK, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY PEOPLE USE. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY USE IT FOR WHEN THEY USE IT. AND THE OTHER THING, HONESTLY, AROUND CHRISTMAS TIME, THERE'S A LOT OF BULK TRASH TOO. SO BUT WE DIDN'T GET BULK EVERY, EVERY TIME I DIDN'T THINK UNTIL RELATIVELY RECENTLY.

RIGHT. I REMEMBER BULK WAS LIKE, I'VE LIVED HERE 14 YEARS AND I'VE PUT OUT BULK TWICE IN 14 YEARS, AND I DON'T UTILIZE THE LANDFILL EITHER, SO IT'S NOT LIKE I GET IT FREE IF I GO TO THE LANDFILL.

I'M THE SAME TO REPUBLIC AS EVERY OTHER FLOWER MOUND RESIDENT.

I LITERALLY HAVE USED BULK TWICE. I CAN PRETTY MUCH GET EVERYTHING IN THAT CART I NEED, OR I USE THE DONATION FOR CAC OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

THAT'S JUST ME. SO, MY CONCERN WITH US ONLY DOING IT ONCE, ONE MONTH OR TWO MONTHS PER YEAR IS THAT THEY STILL HAVE THE EXPENSE OF THE EQUIPMENT.

AND SO THEN YOU HAVE STILL THAT EXPENSE CATEGORY, BUT YOU DIVIDE IT BY MANY FEWER UTILITIES.

NO, NO. SO THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO GIVE UP SOMETHING TO GET SOMETHING.

ALL TRASH. SO, LIKE IN G RAPEVINE. GRAPEVINE DOES GREEN WASTE THE FIRST AND THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH.

THE SECOND, FOURTH AND FIFTH WEDNESDAY IS BULK.

SO THEY GAVE UP A BULK TWO BULK DAYS A MONTH TO PROVIDE A GREEN WASTE.

SO, NO ADDITIONAL CHARGE. IT'S THE EXACT SAME TRUCKS WE USE THE TRUCKS.

OH, OKAY. COULD YOU BRING US THE NUMBERS ON. HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD COST? DO YOU THINK IT WOULD STILL BE THE 3 TO $5 RANGE PER PERSON, PER MONTH, PER BILL.

WELL, THAT'S WHERE WE NEED, AM I RIGHT? WE NEED THE DIRECTION OF COUNCIL.

WHICH WAY YOU WANT US TO PURSUE THIS? I'D BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE ABOUT SWAPPING OUT, YOU KNOW, TARGETED TIMES. MAYBE NOT EVERY SINGLE MONTH, MAYBE A FEW TIMES A YEAR.

THE CONCERN I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THE DATA FROM THIS PILOT PROGRAM.

DID THE RESIDENTS COMPLY WITH THE RULES? YOU TIE WITH ROPE, NOT WITH WIRE? DID YOU FIND COMPLIANCE WITH, YOU KNOW, THE METHOD WHERE THEY HAVE TO SET THIS GREEN WASTE OUT? SO, THE RESIDENTS. YES. LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, THE FIRST WEEK WE MIGHT HAVE HAD A FEW THAT DID IT WITH WIRE AND WE JUST MENTIONED IT AND THEY SNAPPED IT. THE DRIVER SNAPPED IT SO WE COULD STILL TAKE IT ONCE IT WAS IN THE TRUCK.

BUT YES, THE PEOPLE THAT DID USE IT DID COMPLY.

OKAY. DID YOU HEAR ANY. AND I'VE HEARD SOME OF THE FEEDBACK I'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS THAT DIDN'T PARTICIPATE IN THE PILOT BUT ARE AWARE OF THE PILOT IS AND

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THERE'S MORE EFFORT REQUIRED FOR THE GREEN WASTE THAN THERE IS, SAY, BULK IT.

DID YOU HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT THAT OR IS THAT FALSE? THEY STILL HAVE TO CUT, TIE AND BUNDLE IT REGARDLESS IF IT GOES OUT AS BULK OR IT GOES OUT AS GREEN WASTE.

SO. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS YOU'RE USING A PLASTIC BLACK BAG TO BAG YOUR LEAVES INSTEAD OF A GREEN CRAFT BAG. I MEAN, A BROWN CRAFT BAG THAT ACTUALLY STANDS UP AND IT'S EASIER TO GET YOUR LEAVES IN.

I PERSONALLY, FROM THAT STANDPOINT EASE WOULD BE EASIER TO DO BROWN CRAFT BAGS, BUT WE DO HAVE RESIDENTS IN FLOWER MOUND THAT ARE PUTTING IN BROWN CRAFT BAGS AND EXPECTING THAT GREEN WASTE TO BE DONE, BUT YOU CAN'T DO THAT. IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHERE THE EDUCATION PIECE COMES IN.

AND HOPEFULLY IF THAT PILOT PROGRAM WAS ANY INDICATION AFTER THE FIRST WEEK, ONCE THEY REALIZED THEY COULDN'T USE WIRE TO BUNDLE.

HOPEFULLY AFTER A CYCLE OR TWO WITH IF WE DO EXECUTE THIS ACROSS TOWN, PEOPLE WILL GET THE HANG OF IT AND UNDERSTAND THE PROCESSES AND HOW THEY NEED TO DO IT.

SO LONG WINDED, I'M APOLOGIZE, BUT I'D BE INTERESTED IN LEARNING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A SWAPPING OUT A BULK FOR A GREEN FROM TIME TO TIME.

I'D BE INTERESTED IN DOING IT NOW, AGREEING TO DO AT LEAST ONE ONCE A MONTH.

GREEN WASTE. EAST. AND SO, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS ON UTILITY OF THE BULK PICKUP? DO WE KNOW THE TONNAGE OR THE CUBIC YARDS OR JUST.

SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH PEOPLE ARE USING THAT.

AND IF THEY WOULD GET MAD TO SAY, OH, WELL, YOU CAN ONLY DO IT THREE TIMES, NOT FOUR, YOU KNOW, THE FOURTH WELL CYCLE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE VOLUME FOR BULK WASTE IS LEAVES AND BLACK BAGS. THAT THAT'S WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO PUT OUT FURNITURE EVERY WEEK. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO BAG THEIR LEAVES.

AND THAT'S WHAT'S BULK. SO, DO YOU THINK IF WE SUBSTITUTED THAT IN DECEMBER WHEN MOST OF THE LEAVES FALL, WOULD IT COULD IT BE A BREAK EVEN? BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO NEED THE BULK ANYMORE. IT ACTUALLY GOES IN THE TRUCK AND GETS RECYCLED.

IT'S NOT IT'S NOT MORE INFRASTRUCTURE. WELL, IT'S ONLY YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE THE BULK, BECAUSE YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS THAT DON'T WANT TO PUT IT IN THE CRAFT BAGS.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE. THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE THE BULK IS BY ELIMINATING THE BULK PROGRAM AND TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO GO GREEN.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU'RE GOING TO ELIMINATE. I'M NOT ADVOCATING FOR THAT.

OKAY. I'M NOT ADVOCATING EITHER WAY. I AM A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND.

I, I'M MY BEHAVIOR IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE. I'M NOT BAGGING MY LEAVES.

FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T WANT TO. SECOND OF ALL, I LIKE IT GOING BACK INTO MY YARD.

I HAVE A VERY NICE LOOKING YARD AND YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S.

I'M. I'M ME. BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE BULK UNTIL YOU ELIMINATE BULK.

SO I'M OPEN TO FURTHER REVIEW OF POSSIBLY SWAPPING OUT TWO BULK TRASH PICKUPS IN DECEMBER FOR GREEN WASTE.

IF THAT'S AN OPTION, THAT'S THE TRADE FOR TWO PICKUPS TO SO THAT PEOPLE CAN TURN AWAY, TURN ON THOSE BROWN BAGS AND THEN GO RIGHT BACK TO BULK TRASH AGAIN WHEN THEY NEED IT.

I MEAN, I THINK ANYTHING THAT WE DO TO ELIMINATE ANYTHING GOING INTO THE LANDFILL IS MORE SUSTAINABLE THAN WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY.

SO IF DECEMBER IS THE HIGHEST MONTH OF BULK, IS THAT RIGHT? NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, TWO MONTHS. SO I'LL I'D SAY I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND PULL AN ANNUAL REPORT.

BUT DECEMBER IS NOT A HIGH BULK MONTH. IT'S A HIGH RECYCLE BOX MONTH.

AND IT DEPENDS UPON WHEN THE LEAVES FALL. THIS LAST DECEMBER, IT WAS A HIGHER BULK MONTH BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN ALL THE LEAVES FELL.

I MEAN, THE LEAVES ON MY TREE IN MY YARD, WHICH IS HUGE, FELL ALL IN ONE DAY AND IT WAS A DISASTER.

BUT IT WAS IN DECEMBER. BUT YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THAT.

TYPICALLY IT'S SPRING AND FALL. I THINK CONCEPTUALLY I REALLY LIKE IT, BUT OPERATIONALLY I THINK IT'S TOO MANY VARIABLES, TOO DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND FOLLOW ALL THE RULES.

AND IT'S IF THIS, BUT THAT, BUT NOT THIS, BUT THAT.

AND IT'S GOING TO COST YOU $36 A YEAR MORE OR $60 A YEAR MORE, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW YET.

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SO YEAH, SWAPPING BULK AND DOING A GREEN WASTE, YOU KNOW, EVERY OTHER WEEK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR 3 OR 4 MONTHS, I THINK WOULD BE A REASONABLE FULL DISCLOSURE.

YEAH. FLOWER MOUND IS GOING TO SEE A COST INCREASE FOR SERVICE.

WE KNOW. YEAH. BUT NOT I'M NOT I'M NOT SAYING IF YOU DON'T DO THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NICE LITTLE FLUFFY RATE YOU HAVE BECAUSE OUR COST INCREASES HAVE BEEN BETWEEN 4 AND 5%, AND YOUR INCREASE TO ME IS 2.6.

SO FOR THE LAST HOWEVER MANY YEARS WE'RE GOING BACKWARDS.

BUT THERE WILL BE A COST INCREASE. I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE JUST LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, HOW WE CAN ARRANGE IT.

YEAH, I THINK WE WANT AN ADDITIONAL COST. I MEAN, WE CAN WORK WITH STAFF.

I MEAN, YOU GUYS HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF SOME VARIOUS OPTIONS.

YEAH. I THINK WHAT WE'VE HEARD HERE TONIGHT, COUNCIL'S INTERESTED IN SOME OPTIONS, PARTICULARLY WITH SWAPPING THE BULK AND WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. AND JERRY, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT OF EXPERIENCE WITH GRAPEVINE AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, AND WE CAN BRING FORWARD THOSE OPTIONS. I GUESS THE QUESTION WOULD BE, WOULD COUNCIL WANT US TO TAKE THIS TO IC FIRST, GET THEIR FEEDBACK BEFORE BRINGING IT TO THE COUNCIL LIKE A MENU OF OPTIONS, JUST TO GET IT VETTED THROUGH THE TWO GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I'D ALSO LIKE I KNOW WE SAID DROP OFF LOCATIONS, BUT WHAT IF WE DID LIKE FIVE DROP OFF LOCATIONS, GREEN WASTE DROP OFF LOCATIONS? WOULD THAT BE FEASIBLE? I MEAN, LIKE A DUMPSTER.

OKAY. SO IT'S ONLY FEASIBLE IF THEY'RE DROP OFF LOCATIONS THAT ARE MANNED OR YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH CONTRACTORS OR PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOUR, OF THE TOWN DUMPING. SO, THEY, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S MANNED.

YEAH. WHICH IS A COST TO THE TOWN. AND I, I GET WHAT YOU GUYS SAID ABOUT IT BEING A LONG WAY OUT THERE. I LIVE OUT THERE, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT LONG WHEN I COME INTO FLOWER MOUND TO SHOP.

IF YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IT'S REALLY A IT'S A PERSONAL TO ME.

IT'S A PERSONAL PREFERENCE. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENT, THEN THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT YOU WANT TO DO.

IF YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENT, THEN YOU'RE NOT.

YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE ENVIRONMENT. YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS.

AND THAT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, ADDING MORE TRUCKS.

TO SAVE LANDFILL SPACE. IT'S A TRADEOFF. MAY NOT MAKE SENSE.

I MEAN SO IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANT IF WE'RE TRADING THE, THE BULK DAY FOR THE GREENWAY STATE. WE'RE NOT ADDING A TRUCK THOUGH, RIGHT.

NO. SEE THAT AT THAT POINT WE'RE NOT ADDING A TRUCK.

IT'S A GIVE AND TAKE. YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT. IT SEEMS LIKE A GREAT COMPROMISE, BUT.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE REEDUCATING THE RESIDENTS AND REDUCING OUT A CALENDAR THAT SAYS WHEN WE REDUCE WHAT DAYS? YEAH. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE BULK IN FLOWER MOUND IS LEAVES, I WOULD SAY 60.

WHAT DID WE DECIDE? 60% WHEN WE MET WAS IN ABOUT 60 TO 70% IN THERE.

SO, I MEAN, FLOWER MOUND IS NOT THROWING AWAY A LOT OF FURNITURE.

THEY'RE THROWING AWAY A LOT OF LEAVES IN BLACK BAGS.

DO YOU SEE A LOT OF BAGGED GRASS OR GRASS CLIPPINGS IN BLACK? I DON'T REALLY LOOK IN THE BAGS. WELL, I DIDN'T MEAN.

WELL PLAYED, WELL PLAYED. I DIDN'T MEAN THAT SARCASTICALLY, BUT I DON'T WANT MY GUYS TO LOOK AT IT.

BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS GRASS CLIPPINGS ARE MUCH HEAVIER.

AND THOSE ARE THE BAGS THAT BREAK THE MOST BECAUSE THEY JUST KEEP EMPTYING THEIR MOWER INTO THAT BAG, AND THEN THEY JUST KIND OF DRAG IT OVER TO THE CURB, AND THEN WE PICK IT UP AND IT GOES, AND WE HOPE IT'S A WINDY DAY AND IT GOES.

SO, OKAY. YEAH. AND I DIDN'T MEAN THAT SARCASTICALLY.

NO. UNDERSTOOD. SO, BUT I MEAN TRULY I MEAN, WE REALLY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

AND IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO.

SO, I THINK WE'VE GOT ENOUGH TO GO ON. AND AS ALWAYS, IF COUNCIL WANTS US TO CONSIDER SOMETHING AND PRESENT IT AND WORK WITH JERRY ON IT, JUST REACH OUT TO ME OR MATT OR JAMES AND WE CAN LOOK INTO IT.

WE'LL GET WITH JERRY IN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO AND COME UP WITH A PLAN TO COME UP WITH SOME OPTIONS AND GET A SCHEDULE IN FRONT OF ECC AND THEN BACK TO COUNCIL.

SO LIKE, LIKE JERRY MENTIONED OUR CONTRACTS UP FOR.

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YES. THAT'S WHEN IT EXPIRES. YEAH. ALL RIGHT.

SO, THIS MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE LONG HAUL MIGHT BE.

WE'RE ACTUALLY BUILDING UP FOR THOSE CONTRACT DISCUSSIONS.

AS JERRY MENTIONED WE'VE GOT A LOW INFLATION RATE ON THE CONTRACT.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE PRICE INCREASE SHE'S HINTING AT.

IN ADDITION TO ANY TYPE OF ADDITIONAL SERVICES THE TOWN'S LOOKING TO ROLL OUT.

BUT WE'LL GET WITH JERRY AND COME UP WITH A PLAN TO CIRCLE BACK AROUND WITH ECC AND THE COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. HEY. THANKS, JERRY. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START OUR WORK SESSION. I THINK YOU'RE ON. YEAH.

LEXIN. MURPHY. MAYOR, REAL QUICK BEFORE LEXIN'S PRESENTATION, I'VE BEEN ADVISED THAT WE NEED TO BRIEFLY GO INTO CLOSED SESSION UNDER CONSULTATION WITH ATTORNEY. YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:56. THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551,

[M. CLOSED MEETING (Part 1 of 2)]

HELLO, FLOWER MOUND. THE TIME IS NOW 8:17. WE ARE NOW RECONVENING INTO THE TOWN COUNCIL'S RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN SESSION.

[N. RECONVENE (Part 1 of 2)]

LEXIN MURPHY IS GOING TO PRESENT TO US. THIS IS A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS THE PROPOSED EDEN RANCH DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

[K.1. Eden Ranch - Work session discussion on the proposed Eden Ranch development project. Currently associated project numbers are MPA24-0006 and ZPD24-0006.]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. THE MATTER THAT STILL SAYS CLOSED SESSION UP THERE.

NO. OKAY, THERE WE GO. THANK YOU, MAYOR, COUNCIL.

AS MENTIONED, THERE ARE TWO CURRENT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

I JUST WANTED TO MENTION I PUT DOWN HERE A COUPLE OF QUESTION MARKS NEXT TO ANOTHER MPA NUMBER AND A TRP NUMBER.

SO, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS TONIGHT ABOUT ANOTHER POTENTIAL MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT THAT COULD BE REQUIRED IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS APPLICATION.

AND ALSO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

SO THERE WILL I THINK PRETTY DEFINITELY BE SOME TREE REMOVAL PERMIT THAT'S NEEDED FOR THIS.

THE TREE SURVEY HAS NOT BEEN FULLY REVIEWED YET, BUT WOULD NEED AT LEAST 20 SPECIMEN TREES TO BE REMOVED.

JUST BASED ON THE CURRENT FINDINGS THAT THERE ARE A NUMBER OF TREES THAT ARE BEING SAVED, THOUGH DON'T WANT TO PUT A NEGATIVE CONNOTATION ON THAT, BUT I JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW THAT THAT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE AN APPLICATION THAT WOULD COME BEFORE YOU IN ASSOCIATION WITH THE ZPD AND THE MPA.

SO HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE EDEN RANCH PROPERTY, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S BOUNDED BY RED ROCK AND SHILOH AND CROSS TIMBERS TO THE SOUTH, AND THEN HAWK ROAD THERE TO THE NORTH. SO THIS IS ACTUALLY RELATED TO P AND Z, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THIS PROJECT WILL ALSO TRIGGER A WORK SESSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION HAD ESTABLISHED CRITERIA AS TO WHAT PROJECTS WOULD NEED TO HAVE A WORK SESSION BEFORE THEM.

AND SO THIS IS JUST LETTING YOU KNOW THOSE CRITERIA.

IN THIS CASE, IF IT'S AN IF IT IS TRIGGERS ANY TWO P&Z CRITERIA, AND THIS ONE TRIGGERS THREE AND THAT IT'S OVER 20 ACRES, THIS IS APPROXIMATELY 335 ACRES. IT ALSO REQUIRES AT LEAST ONE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.

AND THERE ARE THREE OR MORE EXCEPTIONS, MODIFICATIONS OR WAIVERS.

SO BECAUSE OF THAT, IT WILL GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR A WORK SESSION IN THE FUTURE AS WELL.

SO I'LL START WITH THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.

THAT IS DEFINITELY A REQUIREMENT IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND SO, THE APPLICANT HAS PROPOSED TO ELIMINATE THIS EAST WEST COLLECTOR STREET THAT RUNS THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN THE FUTURE IF THAT WAS APPROVED AGAIN.

CURRENTLY THERE'S A COLLECTOR THAT EXTENDS THERE.

IT EXTENDS ON TO THE EAST AS PROPOSED. THAT DOESN'T EXIST CURRENTLY.

AND SO THAT WOULD BE REMOVED IF THIS WERE APPROVED.

SO ANOTHER COMPONENT OF THIS, WHEN WE DID THE TIA TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT REMOVING THAT COLLECTOR STREET, WHETHER IT WOULD HAVE NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON TRAFFIC WHAT THE TIA FOUND IS THAT IT WOULDN'T PASS SMART GROWTH,

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BUT IT WOULD PASS IF THIS PORTION OF SHILOH ROAD, APPROXIMATELY 1600 LINEAR FEET, STARTING FROM CROSS TIMBERS AND GOING UP 1600 FEET TO THE POINT WHERE THAT FUTURE COLLECTOR STREET IS PROPOSED, IF THAT PORTION OF SHILOH WERE CHANGED TO AN URBAN MINOR ARTERIAL UNDIVIDED, SO IT WOULD BECOME A FOUR LANE ROAD.

SO IT'S KIND OF A TWO PART NOW THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT.

IT WOULD BE THE REMOVAL OF THE EAST WEST COLLECTOR AND THEN CHANGING THE STATUS OF THAT PORTION OF SHILOH.

SO IF THOSE TWO THINGS OCCURRED, THEN IT DOES PASS SMART GROWTH AND THE TRAFFIC WORKS.

AND WOULD THE COST FOR THAT BE COVERED THROUGH IMPACT FEES OR WOULD THAT BE HOW WOULD THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT PROPORTIONALITY AND DETERMINE THE PERCENTAGE OF THE APPLICANT VERSUS THE TOWN.

AND SO THIS DID ALREADY GO TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN AMENDMENT.

SO THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THE LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE OVERALL CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT MAP.

SO THIS IS A PORTION OF THE CTCD. AND AS PROPOSED, THERE ARE STANDARDS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO WE'LL GET INTO THOSE STANDARDS WITHIN THE CTCD AREA PLAN THAT DESCRIBE HOW CLUSTER OF CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS SHOULD BE DEVELOPED IN ORDER TO MEET THE INTENT AND THE GOALS OF THAT PLAN. SO THIS IS TO SHOW YOU THE CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS THE VERSION THAT WAS SUBMITTED FOR STAFF REVIEW.

AND SO YOU CAN SEE THERE IS THE ENTRANCE HERE OFF OF 1171.

AND YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION.

SO I JUST THOUGHT I WOULD MENTION IT TO COUNCIL AS WELL, IN CASE ANY OF YOU WERE RECALLING THAT THERE WAS SOME LANGUAGE IN PREVIOUSLY IN THE KTXD AREA PLAN THAT KIND OF SPOKE TO THE FACT THAT ACCESS POINTS SHOULD BE AVOIDED OFF OF 1171.

BUT WHEN THE CUMMINGS RANCH APPLICATION HAD PREVIOUSLY COME FORWARD, THERE WAS A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC ABOUT HOW THEY ACTUALLY WOULD PREFER THERE TO BE AN ACCESS POINT OFF OF 1171, BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT WOULD REDUCE THE TRAFFIC IMPACTS ON RED ROCK AND SHILOH.

AND LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T A AN ABSOLUTE CANNOT HAPPEN.

IT WAS IT WAS A SHOULD. AND SO THERE WAS SOME LENIENCY TO ALLOW FOR THIS.

AND CONSIDERING THAT THAT WAS KIND OF THE FEEDBACK THAT THAT WE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY.

STAFF DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, GIVE THE APPLICANT ANY CONCERNS ABOUT MAKING THAT CHANGE WHERE THERE WAS AN ACCESS POINT OFF OF 1171? SO THERE ARE SOME MODIFICATIONS, THOUGH, THAT ARE PROPOSED TO OTHER SECTIONS OF THE CROSS TIMBERS AREA PLAN THAT I'LL GO THROUGH NOW.

AND SO THESE WERE WERE MORE SPECIFIC, LESS WIGGLE ROOM.

AND SO STAFF HAD GIVEN THE APPLICANT THE FEEDBACK THAT IF THEY WANTED TO PROCEED BASED ON THE CURRENT APPLICATION, IT WOULD REQUIRE AN MPA TO CHANGE THAT LANGUAGE WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS AREA PLAN.

SO FIRST HAS TO DO WITH SCENIC VIEWS AND BERMS. TALKS ABOUT VIEWS OF SCENIC CORRIDORS AND VISTAS SHOULD BE RETAINED, AND NO EARTHEN BERM OR SOLID MASONRY WALLS WILL BE ALLOWED WITHIN THIS DISTRICT.

THE PROPOSED BERM COULD ALSO IMPACT EXISTING TREE STANDS.

SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. BUT SO THERE IS A BERM THAT IS THAT IS PROPOSED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S NOTED HERE. SO AGAIN, THIS THIS WAS MUCH MORE DEFINITIVE.

IT SAYS NO BERM. AND SO IF THERE'S A BERM THAT'S NOT MEETING THAT STANDARD.

SO THAT'S WHY STAFF SAID THAT THIS WOULD REQUIRE AN MPA.

SECONDLY, I TALKED ABOUT THE SOLID MASONRY WALL.

YOU KNOW, SUBDIVISION ENTRANCES SHOULD REINFORCE TEXAS RANCH ENTRANCES.

ELEMENTS SUCH AS OPEN RAIL FENCING, METAL SIGNAGE, LIMITED USE OF MASONRY COLUMNS OR ACCEPTABLE SOLID MASONRY WALLS ARE NOT ACCEPTABLE.

SO IT WAS JUST VERY SPECIFIC. YOU WILL NOT HAVE A SOLID MASONRY WALL.

AND SO THIS SHOWS YOU WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE. SO AGAIN THIS THIS GOES BEYOND JUST BEING MASONRY COLUMNS.

IT DEFINITELY IS AN EXTENDED WALL OF MORE THAN 60FT I BELIEVE ALONG 1171.

OR, YOU KNOW, THE SCENIC ROADWAY IS HOW IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THE CROSS TIMBERS AREA PLAN.

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ANOTHER MODIFICATION, SCENIC CORRIDORS, TALKS ABOUT HOW HOUSES SHOULD BE PLACED OUTSIDE OF VIEW CORRIDORS OR FACE ROADWAYS ACROSS CONSERVED OPEN SPACE, RATHER THAN PROVIDING VIEWS OF BACKYARDS OR REAR ALLEYS.

HOUSE LOTS SHOULD BE GROUPED AND DISPERSED TO MINIMIZE LINEAR RELATIONSHIPS VISIBLE INSIDE OF THE SCENIC CORRIDOR.

SO HERE ARE SOME KIND OF SNAPSHOTS OF THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THIS IS ALONG SHILOH ROAD AND THESE ARE ALONG RED ROCK ROAD.

SO THIS THIS JUST APPEARS TO BE BASICALLY THE REQUIRED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THOSE ROADS.

AND THEN AFTER THAT YOU GET TO THE REAR BACKYARDS OF THESE PROPERTIES.

SO THAT'S REALLY NOT MEETING THAT INTENT. HOWEVER, I DO THINK THE APPLICANT HAS A COUPLE OF CROSS SECTIONS THAT HE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU DURING HIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT TO WHERE HE'S NOTED THAT HE'S PROVIDING EITHER AT LEAST OR 40FT ON THESE AREAS. AND SO IF THE MINIMUM LANDSCAPE BUFFER IS 25FT, THAT IS SOME ADDITIONAL LAND AREA OUTSIDE OF JUST THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, THAT WOULD BE OPEN SPACE.

SO THERE'S NO SPECIFIC NUMBER WITHIN HERE ABOUT HOW MUCH OPEN SPACE HAS TO BE BETWEEN A REAR YARD AND A ROADWAY.

SO I THINK THAT'S AN AREA WHERE COUNCIL COULD GIVE THE APPLICANT SOME FEEDBACK.

IF YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OR IF YOU'VE IF YOU FEEL LIKE NO, I REALLY THINK I DO WANT THE LOTS TO FACE THE ROADS RATHER THAN HAVE BACKYARDS OR IF YOU'RE LIKE, I'D BE OKAY WITH IT, BUT IF IT WAS 100FT OR I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO BOTH THEM AND STAFF BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING SPECIFIC HERE.

IF THEY'RE ONLY MEETING THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER, I WOULD SAY THAT DOES NOT MEET THE ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THAT'S JUST THE MINIMUM OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO ANYWAY.

SO THAT'S NOT EXTRA OPEN SPACE, BUT IF THEY'RE PROVIDING ANY AMOUNT OVER THAT, IT REALLY BECOMES A, YOU KNOW, DOES THIS TO THE COUNCIL MEET THE INTENT OF THAT LANGUAGE AND WHAT YOU WOULD BE EXPECTING TO SEE IN THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING A COUPLE OF OTHER EXAMPLES WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME CLUSTER AND CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS, BUT NOT MANY OF THEM HAVE HAD THESE COUNTRY ROADWAYS OR KIND OF MAJOR ROADWAYS THAT BORDER THE PROJECTS.

SO THERE'S ONLY BEEN A COUPLE WHERE IT'S COME UP.

TOWN LAKE IS ONE, SMITH TRACT IS ANOTHER. AND IN THOSE CASES, THE APPLICANT DID ACTUALLY PUT IN KIND OF A SECONDARY INTERNAL ROAD SO THAT THE HOUSES FRONTED ON THOSE DRIVES INSTEAD OF HAVING THE BACKYARDS FACE THEM.

SO LIKE I SAID, THEY VERY CLEARLY MET THE INTENT OF THAT STANDARD.

WE DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF SOME OF THIS DISCUSSION WITH COUNCIL.

ANOTHER, ANOTHER CONCEPT THAT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS AWARE OF BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN YOU KNOW, WHAT WE HAVE TYPICALLY SEEN. THERE ARE EIGHT LOTS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT THAT ARE IDENTIFIED AS AGRICULTURAL ZONE LOTS.

SO IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR TO STAFF WHAT THE GOAL IS FOR THESE PROPERTIES.

THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED BY THE APPLICANT AT DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PAST.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OTHER MEETINGS, DRCS, THAT SORT OF THING WHERE, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE WELLNESS CENTER, SCHOOLS ARBORETUM, RECYCLING, MARKET, ACTIVITY CENTER, WELLNESS CENTER, VINEYARD AND WINERY.

THINGS LIKE THIS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED, SO I'M NOT SURE IF ALL OF THESE ARE STILL PART OF THE CONCEPT IF SOME OF THEM ARE.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT JUST KIND OF SAYS AG LOT.

AND SO JUST TO PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL CLARIFICATION BOTH TO COUNCIL AND TO, YOU KNOW, ANY ANYONE LISTENING IN THE AUDIENCE OR AT HOME.

SO IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO WITHIN ONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, THESE SEPARATE KIND OF PIECES THAT AREN'T NECESSARILY PART OF THEIR CLUSTER ANALYSIS. SO, THE CLUSTER ANALYSIS IS JUST RESIDENTIAL USES.

SO THAT'S JUST LOOKING AT OPEN SPACE AND AND RESIDENTIAL LOTS.

BUT THEY COULD BE PROPOSING WELL WITHIN THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

WE ALSO WANT TO HAVE YOU KNOW SAY A SCHOOL SOME A USE THAT'S ALLOWED IN AG.

WE'RE GOING TO IDENTIFY WHERE THAT GOES. THAT'LL BE KIND OF PART OF THE PD, BUT NOT PART OF THE CLUSTER ANALYSIS.

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YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TIMES WHERE A PROJECT MIGHT INCLUDE SOME OFFICE ZONING AND RETAIL ZONING.

IT'S ALL PART OF ONE PD. YOU JUST IDENTIFY, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ZONING IS GOING TO BE PROPOSED, USES THAT SORT OF THING IN THE DIFFERENT AREAS.

SO THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE.

I KNOW SOME OTHER FEEDBACK THAT THAT STAFF HAS GIVEN THE APPLICANT.

AND IF COUNCIL HAS ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT, OF COURSE WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO SHARE THEM, IS FOR SOME OF THESE OTHER USES THAT MIGHT NOT BE TRADITIONALLY ALLOWED, SUCH AS A WINERY IN AG THAT IT COULD BE POSSIBLE FOR THE APPLICANT TO CREATE A, A DEFINE A USE THAT'S AN AGRICULTURALLY BASED NAME, THE USE TYPE OF THING.

SO BECAUSE THAT COULD BE APPROPRIATE IN THE CROSS TIMBERS WITHIN THE THAT AREA PLAN.

THERE'S SOME LANGUAGE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, SOME NONRESIDENTIAL USES MAY BE APPROPRIATE, ASSUMING THAT THEY FIT INTO THAT RURAL FEEL OF THE CROSS TIMBERS AND THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A USE THAT IS IT'S A WINERY, BUT IT'S DEDICATED TO YOUR GROWING THE GRAPES ON SITE.

IT'S AN AGRICULTURALLY BASED BUSINESS. YOU KNOW, THAT COULD BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE PROPOSED.

IT WOULD HAVE TO BE DEFINED AND PARAMETERS PUT AROUND IT WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE.

BUT IT IS IT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR TYPICAL TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL HAS FEEDBACK ON I THINK.

I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WOULD BE EXCITED TO HEAR THAT AS WELL.

HOME OCCUPATION STANDARDS. THIS IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED TO MODIFY WITHIN THEIR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, SO THAT THERE ARE NO LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR PATRONS THAT CAN BE ASSOCIATED WITH A HOME BASED BUSINESS, AND NO RESTRICTIONS ON THE TYPE OF USES THAT CAN BE OPERATED AS A HOME OCCUPATION.

SO THE TROUBLE WITH THAT IS THOSE MODIFICATIONS WOULD ACTUALLY CHANGE THE DESIGNATION OF THE USE UNDER THE BUILDING CODE TO COMMERCIAL.

SO THEN THOSE COULD THOSE LOTS COULD NO LONGER BE PART OF A RESIDENTIAL CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.

IF THEY WERE CONSIDERED, THEY HAD TO BE BUILT TO COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS.

SO AGAIN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE MADE THE APPLICANT AWARE OF.

WE WOULD SUGGEST TAKING ALL OF THAT OUT. IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A HOME BASED BUSINESS WITHIN ANY OF THESE YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL LOTS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE ALREADY ALLOWED TO JUST USE THE TOWN'S HOME BASED BUSINESS STANDARDS, WHICH REFERENCE THE CURRENT BUILDING CODE AND WHAT'S ALLOWED THROUGH THAT.

PARKS BOARD. SO, THIS IS ANOTHER TOPIC OF DISCUSSION.

THE PROJECT WILL NEED TO RECEIVE A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARKS BOARD ON PARKLAND DEDICATION.

STAFF WAS NOT REALLY IN FAVOR OF THE CURRENT PROPOSED DEDICATION BECAUSE IT'S ALL ALONG KIND OF THIS AREA WHERE THE TRAIL IS AND IT LOOKS TO BE A LOT OF IT BEHIND A FENCE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S THE APPLICANT'S CURRENT VISION FOR THIS BECAUSE WE HAD TALKED, MET AND TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

WE SAID, OF COURSE, YOU ARE WELCOME TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR PROPOSAL TO THE PARKS BOARD AND ON TO COUNCIL.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD HAVE SOME CONCERNS AND DEFINITELY IT COULDN'T BE BEHIND A FENCE, BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE ACCESSIBLE TO THE PUBLIC IF IT WAS MEETING PARKLAND DEDICATION REQUIREMENTS. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S USING A LOT OF THE AREA THAT WILL THAT WILL BE REQUIRED TO BE THE TRAIL ANYWAY.

AND I THINK, I THINK THE, THE TOWN'S PARK STAFF WOULD LIKE TO SEE KIND OF SOME ADDITIONAL AREA THAT'S NOT JUST INCORPORATING THE TRAIL WITH SOME OF THEIR INITIAL THOUGHTS. DO WE HAVE ANY PARKS THAT ARE LIKE THAT THAT ARE REALLY LONG AND NARROW? I DON'T NONE THAT COMES TO MIND, BUT I'M, I AM NOT THE KNOWER OF ALL THINGS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM FEASIBLE AS A PARK BUT OKAY. SO OPEN SPACE.

JUST TO LET YOU KNOW ON THAT AGAIN THE EXPECTATION HAS BEEN 50% FOR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS.

THAT'S WHAT ALL THE PRIOR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS HAD MET, THAT 50% OPEN SPACE.

THAT'S NOT A HARD CODED STANDARD. IT'S A, IT WAS JUST KIND OF AN EXPECTATION.

SO AS PROPOSED, CURRENTLY THEY'RE AT 45% OPEN SPACE OUTSIDE OF AG LOTS.

AGAIN, STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE IS THAT IF THESE AG LOTS ARE NOT, NOT REALLY EVEN PART OF THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.

SO, THEY COULDN'T BE USED TO MEET THE OPEN SPACE DEDICATION REQUIREMENT.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL KIND OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES THERE, AND I'M NOT SURE THE APPLICANT MIGHT HAVE MORE INFORMATION TO SHARE ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, ANOTHER A MORE RECENT TIME I SPOKE WITH HIM, INDICATED MAYBE HE WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE THOSE MORE, LIKE, TWO ACRE, JUST TWO ACRE LOTS WHERE SOMEBODY COULD LIVE THERE AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF HAVE SOME HORSES OR THAT SORT OF THING.

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BUT SO LIKE I SAID, BASED ON THE LAST APPLICATION, IT WAS AT 45%.

I'M NOT SURE IF THIS REFLECTS THE APPLICANT'S KIND OF CURRENT VISION FOR WHAT THEY'RE THINKING OUT THERE.

LEXIN BEFORE YOU GO ON. WHAT ABOUT THE CEMETERY? WHERE DOES THAT COME INTO THIS? I'M NOT SURE.

I HAVEN'T, I HAVE NOT HAD CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE CEMETERY AS OPEN SPACE.

MAYBE THAT'LL BE IN THE APPLICANTS. YEAH. APPLICANT CAN PROBABLY TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT. AND JUST LIKE LAST WEEK OR SOMETHING, HE HAD MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT IT, AND HE WANTED TO TALK TO OUR PARKS STAFF ABOUT IT. BUT HAVE WE EVER INCLUDED CEMETERY AS SOMEONE'S OPEN SPACE BEFORE? NO. OKAY. NO. DEFINITELY NOT AS OPEN SPACE. IT'S OCCUPIED RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD. I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID THE OPEN SPACE WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE TO. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE PART OF THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT TO COUNT AS OPEN SPACE AS PART OF THAT CLUSTER ANALYSIS.

SO SOMETHING YOU GIVE AWAY TO SOMEBODY ELSE DOESN'T COUNT ANYMORE BECAUSE IT'S NOT YOURS ANYMORE.

IS THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, FOR CONSIDERATION, IF YOU GIVE IT AWAY TO SOMEBODY ELSE, IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR PROPERTY ANYMORE.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF OWNERSHIP HAS TO BE A PART OF THIS.

IF THERE WAS IF IF ALL PROPERTY OWNERS GAVE CONSENT.

AND YES, WE'RE AWARE OF THIS, THAT THAT MIGHT BE POSSIBLE.

I'M NOT SURE HOW IT WOULD WORK AS AN ACTUAL CEMETERY THOUGH.

LIKE SO THAT'S AGAIN, I DON'T, I'M NOT READY TO GIVE A.

YEAH, WE CAN JUST WAIT UNTIL. A THOROUGH ANALYSIS OF THAT.

OKAY. BUT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD REALLY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

AND YES. OKAY. THANKS. SO, ORCHARDS WITHIN OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, JUST WANTED TO GET COUNCIL'S THOUGHTS ON THIS ALSO NOT THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULDN'T BE DONE.

IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'VE DONE UP TO THIS POINT WHERE KIND OF A WORKING FARM WAS UTILIZED FOR OPEN SPACE. AND SO THAT'S WHY STAFF HAD HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS REALLY GOING TO WORK? YOU KNOW, ARE YOU GOING TO NEED MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT TO HARVEST THE FRUIT.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PROCESS IT? WHERE DO YOU STORE IT? DO YOU HAVE A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, A STAFF THAT'S OUT THERE PICKING THE FRUIT? IT JUST IT SEEMS LIKE WE'D REALLY WANT TO GET MORE DETAILS ABOUT THIS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE TALK, THERE WAS TALK OF, LIKE, THOUSANDS OF FRUIT TREES BEING PLANTED OR TREES OF SOME SORT OR PRODUCTION TYPE.

AND SO THAT JUST SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD EXCEED WHAT YOU MIGHT EXPECT FOR THE PEOPLE JUST LIVING THERE, YOU KNOW, TO BE CONSUMING. SO IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD HAVE TO BE GOING SOMEWHERE AND WE'D WANT TO KNOW THE PROCESS FOR THAT.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE DEALING WITH THAT VOLUME, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, WHERE ARE YOU STORING IT? WELL, IS THAT USING UP OPEN SPACE? DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PROCESSING FACILITY? I DON'T KNOW, JUST HOW IS THIS REALLY GOING TO WORK? SO JUST TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE KIND OF THE OTHER MODIFICATIONS.

JUST BECAUSE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE USUALLY COVER. SO FIRST MODIFICATION IS DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS FOR AGRICULTURALLY ZONED PROPERTY.

NOT THAT STAFF HAS ANY CONCERNS WITH THAT. THAT'S KIND OF TYPICALLY HOW THAT'S DONE WITH THESE CLUSTER SOMETIMES CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS BECAUSE YOU ARE MAKING SMALLER LOTS. SO THEN, YOU KNOW, AG DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS ARE ASSUMING A TWO ACRE LOT SINCE YOU'RE DOING SMALLER LOTS.

A LOT OF TIMES YOU WILL MAKE SOME OF THE SETBACKS SMALLER.

THE PERCENTAGE OF LOT COVERAGE LARGER, JUST TO ACCOMMODATE THE FACT THAT YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH LAND TO WORK WITH BECAUSE THESE WHILE THEY'RE STAYING ZONED AG AS A CLUSTER OR CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT, THEY ARE ACTUALLY SMALLER THAN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY IMAGINED FOR THAT.

SO WE DO TYPICALLY SEE SOME MODIFICATION OF THOSE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.

I'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE MODIFICATION OF THE HOME OCCUPATION STANDARDS, ALSO PROPOSED A MODIFICATION OF ACCESSORY DWELLING STANDARDS, SO THAT THEY ARE ALLOWED IN LOTS AS SMALL AS THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE INSTEAD OF TWO ACRES.

WE HAVE HAD OTHER CLUSTER DEVELOPMENTS THAT UTILIZE THAT OPTION.

THEY WROTE IT INTO THEIR PD, AND THE COUNCIL APPROVED IT TO ALLOW ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS ON THOSE SMALLER LOTS THAT WERE PART OF THAT CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.

PROPOSING A MODIFICATION OF COMMERCIAL BOARDING OR RENTAL STABLES SO THAT THEY'RE ALLOWED ON LOTS AS SMALL AS ONE ACRE INSTEAD OF TWO ACRES.

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SO AGAIN, THOSE ARE IN PLACE BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY THAT'S OUT IN A COMMUNITY WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE MORE TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS AROUND THEM. THEY MIGHT BE OPPOSED TO HAVING KIND OF THE SMELLS ASSOCIATED WITH ANIMALS CLOSE TO THEIR PROPERTY LINES.

YOU KNOW, IN THIS CASE, THE APPLICANT MIGHT FEEL THIS IS KIND OF THE VISION THAT EVERYBODY BUYING INTO THIS WOULD BE BUYING INTO.

SO IT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE HERE. AND THEN TOPOGRAPHICAL SLOPE EXCEPTION IS ALSO LISTED AS BEING NEEDED FOR HERE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO CALL OUT SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE APPLICANT TO GET COUNCIL DIRECTION ON.

SO FIRST, THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE CROSS TIMBERS AREA PLAN.

YOU KNOW HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT THE MASONRY WALL AND THE BERM.

NEXT, IS THERE ANY AMOUNT OF OPEN SPACE THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO SEE BETWEEN REAR YARDS OF LOTS AND COUNTRY ROADS THAT YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE WITH? ALSO VIEW CORRIDORS INTO THE PROPERTY FROM SCENIC AND COUNTRY ROADS.

SO AGAIN, I THINK THE APPLICANT WITH THE NUMBER LARGE NUMBER OF TREES BEING PLANTED, YOU KNOW, BOTH WITHIN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED AND THEN THE ORCHARDS AND THAT AND THERE WILL NOT BE, I THINK THE VIEW CORRIDORS THAT WE WOULD KIND OF TYPICALLY ASSUME WITH CLUSTER AND CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT AND THAT THE AREA PLAN SPEAKS TO, LIKE I SAID IT'S NOT A HARD CODED DIMENSIONAL STANDARD WHERE YOU CAN SAY, THIS DOESN'T MEET THAT, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF COUNCIL GAVE SOME FEEDBACK ON KIND OF YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, THAT THEY COULD TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

NONRESIDENTIAL USES AND ASSOCIATED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR AG LOTS.

IF YOU HAVE ANY FEEDBACK ON THAT LOCATION OF FUNCTIONAL FORM LAND AND OUR ARCHER ORCHARDS WITHIN OPEN SPACE AND THEN FINALLY THE PROPOSED PARKLAND DEDICATION. SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.

LEXIN, THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM OF DOUBLE OAK, WAS HERE AND HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THE CONNECTION POINT TO KINGS ROAD.

IS THERE A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF ENTRANCES THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE IN ORDER TO MEET OUR TOWN STANDARDS? I WOULD NEED TO CONFIRM THAT WITH FIRE. I KNOW WE ALWAYS NEED TWO, ONCE WE GET OVER 30 LOTS.

BUT I DO NOT KNOW AT WHAT POINT YOU NEED MORE THAN TWO.

OKAY. BECAUSE IF WE DELETED THAT ONE AND YOU HAD AN ENTRANCE ON SHILOH AND ENTRANCE ON 1171 AND AN ENTRANCE ON RED ROCK, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT MIGHT BE OKAY AS LONG AS IT MEETS THE FIRE CODE.

SO I WOULD WANT TO KNOW IF THE APPLICANT WAS OPEN TO DELETING THAT JUST AT THE TO FOR TO SATISFY DOUBLE OAKS TOWN COUNCIL.

THANKS. JUST FOR THE OCCUPATIONAL RESTRICTIONS AT RESIDENCES.

WHAT ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT. WHAT COULD A RESIDENT DO? I MEAN, ARE WE TALKING, LIKE, INDUSTRIAL TYPE? NO. IT'S TYPICALLY MORE YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY KIND OF WERE, YOU KNOW SOMEBODY MIGHT WORK FROM HOME. MAYBE THEY HAVE AN OFFICE, MAYBE THEY'RE LIKE A SOME SORT OF.

MAYBE THEY DO TAXES. AND SO, THEN THEY COULD SEE LIKE A PERSON AT A TIME IN THEIR HOME OFFICE TYPE OF THING.

BUT SO WE NORMALLY ALLOW THAT THERE CAN BE NO MORE THAN FOUR PEOPLE BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU CAN'T LIKE JUST OPEN UP A SHOP.

I MEAN, IT CAN'T BE LIKE A FULL-BLOWN BUSINESS.

YOU IT NEEDS TO BE SMALL SCALE AND LIKE YOU CAN ONLY HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL EMPLOYEE THAT WORKS THERE BESIDES YOURSELF.

SO YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I THINK WHAT WE TYPICALLY SEE ARE MORE WOULD MORE TYPICALLY SEE IS KIND OF THAT ONE ON ONE TYPE OF THING.

IF YOU'RE A PERSON THAT THAT MIGHT SEE AN INDIVIDUAL CLIENT AT A TIME THAT YOU COULD DO THAT THROUGH YOUR HOME OFFICE.

BUT DOVETAILING TO THAT, THE REQUEST FOR EXCEPTION IS TO HAVE NO MAXIMUM NUMBER.

THAT'S CORRECT OF EMPLOYEES. AND SO CARS DO WE CALCULATE THAT IN THE TRAFFIC IMPACT ANALYSIS.

HOW WOULD WE? BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW RIGHT. YEAH.

I MEAN I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT WOULD WORK BECAUSE IT'S A GATED COMMUNITY.

SO, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO REALLY ADVERTISE FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO COME INTO YOUR BUSINESS.

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IT DOES SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE A PRETTY SMALL NUMBER OF PEOPLE.

AND A PRETTY SMALL AUDIENCE. AND HOW WOULD ANYONE EVER KNOW? YOU WOULDN'T KNOW, RIGHT? I DON'T. OKAY. I CAN ASK THAT QUESTION OF THE APPLICANT.

RIGHT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, THE TOWN'S HOME OCCUPATION STANDARDS ARE DEFINED UNDER SECTION 98984.

AND FOR JUST EXAMPLE, ON THE NUMBER OF PATRONS OR POTENTIAL VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

IT'S CURRENTLY LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN FOUR PATRONS ON PREMISE AT ONE TIME, JUST AS AN EXAMPLE.

OKAY. SO, WITH THAT RESTRICTION REMOVED, THEY COULD OPEN A MECHANIC SHOP AT THEIR HOUSE.

YEAH, I THINK BECAUSE IT TOOK OFF THE RESTRICTION ON THE TYPE OF USES.

WHAT WAS PROPOSED? DID THE TYPE OF USES, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE PATRONS AND THE NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES? YEAH. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? YOU ALL GOOD? ARE YOU ALL READY FOR THE APPLICANT? YEAH. OKAY. SO, TYLER RADBOURNE, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD.

AND PRESENT. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.

I KNOW IT'S RUNNING A LITTLE BIT LATE AND I SEE SOME PEOPLE YAWNING, SO I TRY TO KEEP IT SHORT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL . THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, STAFF.

LEXIN. ESPECIALLY. GREAT JOB YOU. I'VE GOTTEN TO WORK WITH LEXIN A LITTLE BIT ON THIS PROJECT, AND SHE DOES AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB, SO IT'S BEEN A JOY WORKING WITH HER.

I WOULD LIKE TO START OFF THE PRESENTATION BY FOR THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO FOR YOU ALL TO SHOW ONE OF THE INCREDIBLE VIDEOS THE TOWN HAS DONE. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE GOT.

WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DO POPCORN, DID WE? CAN I JUST PLAY? CAN I JUST PLAY THIS HERE? LEXIN YEAH, I DON'T YEAH, IT'S FINE TO PLAY IT.

DID YOU TELL ANYBODY AHEAD OF TIME YOU WANT? I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE SOUND ON.

OH. OH. AS FAR AS PEOPLE LISTENING ONLINE OR AS FAR AS FROM OUR.

WE'LL SEE IF IT WORKS. LET'S TRY IT. OKAY. SO, THIS WAS DONE BY THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS ON THE WEBSITE UNDER THE.

DID I GO TO THE NEXT VIDEO? HOLD ON HERE. LET'S TRY THIS AGAIN.

GERMANS HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO INCREASE WATER.

I THINK WE GOT A COMMERCIAL TIMES WITHOUT USING ANY ENERGY.

I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN DO THE VOLUME OR NOT. OH, WOW.

I THINK I'M GETTING BLISTERS. WELL, I MEAN, WHAT ELSE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO DO? I DON'T KNOW. DO WE? DO WE GO OUTSIDE? GO OUTSIDE.

WHAT ARE WE EVEN SUPPOSED TO DO OUT THERE? YOU KNOW, BACK IN MY DAY, WE HAD ALL KINDS OF COOL THINGS TO DO OUTSIDE.

MATTER OF FACT, I KNOW JUST THE THING.

WHOA. DIDN'T SEE YOU THERE. MY NAME IS CHIP SHREDSON. AND A LITTLE BIRDIE TOLD ME THAT YOU WANT TO CREATE HABITATS FOR LITTLE BIRDIES AND OTHER LITTLE CRITTERS, TOO. CHECK IT OUT. THERE ARE FIVE TOTALLY BODACIOUS REQUIREMENTS TO CREATE AND CERTIFY YOUR OWN REGISTERED HABITAT.

COME ON. YOU GOT TO MAKE SURE YOUR HABITAT HAS SOME WICKED CHOW FOR THE WILDLIFE.

THAT MEANS PLANTING THINGS LIKE FLOWERS FOR OUR POLLINATORS, HAVING SEEDS AND ACORNS AROUND FOR OUR FEATHERED FRIENDS, AND LEAFY GREENS FOR LARGER MAMMALS. NOW WELL, THERE'S THE BEEF.

ALL OF NATURE'S CRITTERS NEED THAT SWEET LIQUID WATER TO SURVIVE.

SO MAKE SURE YOU'VE GOT AN AMPLE SUPPLY. BUT YOU DON'T NEED A LAKE.

A SIMPLE BIRD BATH WILL TOTALLY SUFFICE. WHEN THE WEATHER GETS GNARLY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEPLACE TO GO.

MAKE SURE YOUR CRITTERS HAVE A PLACE TO HANG THEIR HATS AND GET OUT OF THE RAIN.

THINGS LIKE OVERHANGING ROCKS OR NATIVE CANOPY OR THE ORDER OF THE DAY.

ALL CRITTERS NEED A PLACE TO RAISE AND CARE FOR THEIR YOUNG.

MAKE SURE YOU GIVE THEM A SECLUDED SPOT TO DO THIS.

YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT BY PLANTING STURDY VEGETATION OR HANGING A BIRDHOUSE.

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PLANT NATIVE PLANTS IN YOUR GARDEN AND DON'T WATER DURING PEAK HOURS OF SUNLIGHT.

OH, GAG ME WITH A SPOON. COOL. SO TO RECAP, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED FOOD, WATER COVER, SUSTAINABLE GARDENING PRACTICES, AND A PLACE TO RAISE YOUNG. SO NOW YOU'VE MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS TO CERTIFY YOUR HABITAT. MAKE SURE YOU REGISTER AND REALLY GET INTO.

WHAT HAPPENED? HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO CERTIFY MY HABITAT? NO WORRIES. IT'S AS EASY AS GOING TO FLOWER-MOUND.COM/GARDEN AND FOLLOWING THE LINKS.

AND THAT KIDS IS RADICAL.

THANK YOU FOR LETTING US SHOW YOUR MOVIE OR YOUR INCREDIBLE VIDEO.

THE TOWN STAFF DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT. SO, I'LL LET ME FIRST INTRODUCE OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT AND SOME OF OUR TEAM, AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF WALK THROUGH THIS HOPEFULLY AS EXPEDITIOUSLY AS POSSIBLE AND GET Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK.

SO, I KNOW I'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU GUYS BEFORE, BUT I'M TYLER RADBOURNE.

MY WIFE JULIA IS IN THE CROWD. AND SO, AND THEN ALSO QUINT REDMOND FROM [INAUDIBLE] IS HERE AS OUR DESIGN AND PROJECT MANAGER.

SO WE A COUPLE WE BOUGHT THE PROJECT FROM CHARLIE CUMMINGS BACK IN 2022 WITH A VISION OF BEING ABLE TO BUILD AN ORGANIC FARM COMMUNITY.

WE BEFORE WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, WE, MY WIFE AND I, WE WERE LOOKING FOR 30 OR 50 ACRES TO BUY.

AND WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS WE WANTED TO HAVE SOME COWS, SOME HORSES, SOME CHICKENS.

WE WANTED A LITTLE FARM. AND UNFORTUNATELY, THE LAND COSTS IN THIS AREA ARE A BIT PROHIBITIVE FROM DOING THAT FOR MOST PEOPLE.

AND SO, WHEN EVEN IF I WANTED TO BUY 30 ACRES FROM CHARLIE, I CALLED CHARLIE AND I SAID, CHARLIE, WILL YOU SELL ME 30 ACRES? AND HE VERY STERNLY, IF YOU'VE EVER MET CHARLIE CUMMINGS, HE SAID, YOU CAN BUY ALL OF IT OR NONE OF IT AND HUNG UP THE PHONE ON ME.

THAT WAS THAT WAS THE END OF MY CONVERSATION.

I TRIED OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS AND BY THE GRACE OF GOD, IT CAME UP.

THIS PROJECT KEPT COMING UP AND WE STARTED. THERE'S A DOCUMENTARY WE'RE PART OF CALLED THE NEED TO GROW.

IT'S ON AMAZON PRIME. MAYBE SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE SEEN IT, BUT OH IT'S THERE.

THE THAT'S AN INCREDIBLE FILM. THERE'S A FREE LINK THAT FOLKS ARE ABLE TO FIND ON OUR WEBSITE.

WE'LL UPDATE THAT SO FOLKS CAN FIND IT. BUT THAT FILM TALKS ABOUT REGENERATIVE AGRICULTURE.

IT TALKS ABOUT HOW OUR COMMUNITIES ARE OUR FOOD IS BECOMING LESS AND LESS NUTRITIOUS.

AS WE'VE SEEN AFTER THE PANDEMIC, OUR FOOD QUALITY STARTED TO GO DOWN.

AND THE FOOD THAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE GROCERY STORE, FROM OUR LEAFY GREENS TO CUCUMBERS, TOMATOES THAT JUST STARTED TO DECLINE IN QUALITY.

WE HAVE A CRISIS IN AMERICA OF HEALTH, AND WE ARE ALL AFFECTED BY IT AT ALL AGES.

AND WE REALLY FELT LIKE ONE OF THE MOVEMENTS THAT YOU'RE SEEING PICK BACK UP.

AND IT ACTUALLY WAS A MOVEMENT THAT WAS STARTED BACK.

I THINK WITH ROOSEVELT I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THE VICTORY GARDENS BACK, I THINK IN THE 50S BUT REALLY BRINGING BACK AGRICULTURE, GARDENING TO COMMUNITIES AND LETTING THAT THRIVE WITHIN A COMMUNITY.

AND SO THE ONE WAY THAT I LIKE TO DESCRIBE THIS COMMUNITY, FROM FOLKS THAT ARE LOOKING AT IT, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE DESIGN THIS SOMEWHAT LOOKS LIKE A GOLF COURSE FROM ABOVE, BUT INSTEAD OF GOLF, IT'S A FUNCTIONAL FARM WHERE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO THRIVE AND RAISE THEIR KIDS, AND THE KIDS ARE ABLE TO PLAY LIKE WE USED TO WHEN WE WERE YOUNG OR I USED TO.

AND SO THAT'S A DREAM OF SO MANY PEOPLE THAT IS BEGINNING TO BE OUT OF REACH BY MOST OF THE PEOPLE.

WHEN, WHEN DEVELOPERS NOWADAYS ARE FOCUSED ON THE BOTTOM LINE, THEY OFTEN FORGET AND DON'T INCORPORATE AREAS FOR AGRICULTURE, FOR WILDLIFE AND ETC. SO WE ARE, AS SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS AND FOLKS AROUND HERE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, AND WE'VE TAKEN A LOT MORE TIME THAN TRADITIONAL DEVELOPERS WOULD TAKE.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO. WE DIDN'T TAKE THE EASY ROUTE, OF COURSE, BUT WE DID GO AND WORK WITH A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORS AROUND THE AREA, WHICH SOME OF THEM YOU'VE SEEN TONIGHT, AND I'M NOT QUITE SURE BECAUSE I'VE NOT BEEN PART OF OTHER DEVELOPMENT APPROVALS, BUT I'VE BEEN PART OF SOME WHERE THERE IS GENERALLY A LOT OF PUSHBACK AGAINST SOMETHING.

I DON'T KNOW HOW OFTEN YOU GUYS SEE QUITE OF SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING.

I DIDN'T REALLY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE GOING TO COME TONIGHT, BUT I'M THANKFUL FOR THOSE THAT DID. SO, OUR NEIGHBORS, THANK YOU GUYS. AND SO WE'VE BEEN

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AND THE PLAN HAS GONE THROUGH A NUMBER OF CHANGES.

AND SO HERE'S WHERE WE ARE TODAY. SO I'M, I DON'T THINK I MISSED TOO MUCH.

SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THAT LEXIN WAS REALLY KIND TO AND VERY CLEAR ON THE THINGS THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THE ROADWAY. ACTUALLY, I'LL LET QUINT COME UP AND TALK ABOUT THE TECHNICAL STUFF.

HE'S PROBABLY BETTER AT THAN I AM. AND THEN WE CAN KIND OF TAG TEAM IT HERE.

AND THEN HOPEFULLY, IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY FEEDBACK, PLEASE INTERRUPT US AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GO THROUGH HERE.

SO. QUINT. AWESOME. THANK YOU. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

UNFORTUNATELY, I'M OLD ENOUGH. I PROBABLY HAVE A JUMPSUIT LIKE THAT.

IT WAS IN THE VIDEO. SO LEXIN ALREADY KIND OF OUTLINED THE THINGS THAT WE BASICALLY NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON, AND WE CAN GIVE AN EXPLANATION OF WHY WE'RE ACTUALLY ASKING FOR THOSE.

LET ME GO THROUGH REAL QUICK. SO AS THE DESIGN TEAM WHEN TYLER APPROACHED US AND HIRED US.

THE OVERARCHING IDEA HERE WAS WILDLIFE, BOTH HUMAN HABITAT AND WILDLIFE HABITAT.

AND SO THE DRIVING FORCE FOR ALL OF THE ROADWAY NETWORK AND ALL OF THE WAY THE DESIGN IS LAID OUT IS TO HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE YOU CAN POSSIBLY HAVE AND STILL GET TO THAT MANY UNITS.

THAT'S IT'S LIKE REALLY LITERALLY A MATH QUESTION.

WE JUST DON'T WANT TO PUT ANOTHER ROAD ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE LOTS.

WE YOU KNOW, IF YOU DIVIDE THE NUMBER OF LOTS BY THE NUMBER OF LINEAR FEET OF ROADWAY, WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE LEAST AMOUNT.

WE ACTUALLY ALSO, AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, WANTED TO REDUCE THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BY TAKING THE COLLECTOR OUT.

SO IF YOU DO A ROUGH CALCULATION ABOUT THE RIGHT OF WAY BETWEEN THE PREVIOUS SUBMITTAL.

THE COMING SUBMITTAL AND HOURS WERE SAVING ABOUT TEN ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BY TAKING THAT COLLECTOR OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF THE PROJECT. SO WE'LL HAVE THE SAME ACCESS. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MULTIPLE ACCESS ON MULTIPLE SIDES, BUT ULTIMATELY WITHOUT HAVING TO HAVE THE COLLECTOR GO THROUGH THAT'S IN THE TRANSPORTATION PLAN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THE ONE THAT WE'RE WORKING ON THE MPA FOR SAVES ABOUT TEN ACRES OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.

ALSO, THE IDEA WAS TO HAVE LESS IMPACT ON THE DRAINAGES.

SO, IF YOU ACTUALLY GO BACK, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN GO BACK.

OH, CAN I GO BACK? SCROLL, SCROLL. IF YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE PLAN, THIS PLAN PRESERVES ALL THE WHAT THEY CALL THE THALWEG OF THE STREAM OR THE DRAINAGE OF BOTH STREAMS. SO, WE LITERALLY MADE A MAP OF HOW THE DRAINAGE OF THE SITE WORKS.

AND INSTEAD OF HAVING A BIG ROAD CROSS THROUGH THOSE DRAINAGES TO STOP WILDLIFE GOING UP AND DOWN, WE LITERALLY TRIED TO FACILITATE THOSE DRAINAGES AS WILDLIFE CORRIDORS AND WILDLIFE PASSAGES.

WHEN IT GETS TO THE TOP, WE, YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF RUN OUT.

BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED, IT'S DELIBERATELY FOR WILDLIFE.

IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A SEPARATE ISSUE. BUT WHEN YOU WHILE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PLAN, I CAN TELL YOU NOT THERE'S ONLY FOUR LOTS THAT DON'T BACK UP TO OPEN SPACE. AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE THAT'S SHARED OPEN SPACE FOR EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS, EVERY ONE OF THOSE LOTS AUTOMATICALLY IS MORE AVAILABLE TO QUALIFY FOR THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION.

THEY CAN SHARE THAT BACKYARD. IN FACT, THEY CAN ACTUALLY WALK OUT OF THEIR HOUSE TO THE OPEN SPACE AS MUCH AS THEY GET IN THEIR GARAGE AND GO DOWN THE ROAD.

LET'S SEE HERE. THE OTHER PART OF THE ROADWAY DESIGN AND THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE CONSIDERING IS INCREASED SAFETY FOR PEDESTRIANS, BOTH ADULTS AND CHILDREN, BUT LOWER DESIGN SPEEDS WITHOUT HAVING THE COLLECTOR THROUGH THE MIDDLE.

ALL OF THESE ARE LOCAL ROADS. THERE ARE NARROWER CROSS SECTIONS, AND IT MAKES THE WHOLE PLAN SIGNIFICANTLY MORE WALKABLE.

IN FACT, THE WAY THE TRAILS ARE LAID OUT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND ON A ROAD AS A PEDESTRIAN.

YOU CAN GET TO ALMOST ANYWHERE YOU WANT TO INSIDE THE PROJECT ON A TRAIL, INCLUDING GOING FROM YOUR LOT TO ONE OF THE AGRICULTURAL LOTS TO PICK STRAWBERRIES OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO. AND THEN THIS QUESTION CAME UP EARLIER.

THIS IS ALSO A SAVINGS FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE AS A PART OF THE THE ACTUAL THOROUGHFARE PLAN,

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SO WE JUST THINK THAT IT'S A BETTER OVERALL PLAN IF THAT IS NOT THERE.

AND THEN, AS LEXIN SAID, WE HAVE TO RECLASSIFY A LITTLE PIECE OF SHILOH SO THAT AND OVERALL THAT THAT MANAGEMENT OF THAT COST IS MUCH MORE. IT'S MUCH BETTER FOR BOTH THE DEVELOPER AND THE CITY TO MAKE THAT WORK.

SO. SO THAT'S THE KIND OF ROADWAY PART, THE SINGLE LOADED ROAD ISSUE AND HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE DESIGN AND WHY THIS IS ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE TREATMENTS.

PART OF IT IS THAT CROSS TIMBERS IS A SIX LANES ACROSS.

AND IF YOU STOOD ON THE FARM ON THE RANCH IT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO HEAR EACH OTHER SPEAK.

SO SOUND SAFETY, VIEW PROTECTION, ALL OF THOSE ACTUALLY GO INTO THE IDEA OF HAVING BOTH BERMS AND INTERMITTENT SOLID WALLS. THE WALL IN THE PLAN DOES NOT WRAP AROUND.

IN FACT, I NEED TO MAKE THAT REALLY CLEAR. A LARGE PERCENTAGE OF THE OF THE FENCE THAT'S THERE WILL GET CLEANED UP AND REPAINTED BLACK, PROBABLY, OR ONE OF THE COLORS THAT'S IN THE CODE.

AND ALL OF THAT AROUND THE EXTERIOR IS ALL PRESERVED AS THE EXISTING PIPE RAIL FENCE AT THE ENTRANCE, THOUGH, WHERE PEOPLE ARE FORMING AND COMING TO HAVE A SAFE PASSAGE FOR FOLKS AND FOR PEOPLE COMING AND GOING OR WHATEVER, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PART OF THE OF THE WHOLE OPPORTUNITY.

SO THIS IS WHAT LEXIN SAID. WE CAME OVER, WE TOOK THE CODE THE 25FT, AND WE SAID, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. THAT'S NOT ENOUGH TO HAVE A SIX FOOT PATH OF SOME SORT FOR TRAILS OR WHATEVER, AND STILL HAVE LOTS OF PLANTINGS. IT WAS IN TYLER'S VISION TO HAVE A LOT OF TREES AND A LOT OF SHRUBS OR WHATEVER.

SO ALL OF OUR THERE'S NO LOTS ON THE THAT BACK UP TO ONE OF THE ROADS THAT DON'T HAVE A 40 FOOT BUFFER.

SO THESE ARE ACTUALLY THIS IS WHAT'S IN THE CURRENT SUBMISSION.

SO THIS IS THE LOT 176. AND IT'S ACTUALLY GOT 153FT BEFORE YOU GET TO THE BACK OF THE LOT.

THEN HERE'S THE ONE THAT'S THE CLOSEST. SO THIS IS THE CLOSEST LOT.

AND IT ACTUALLY HAS A 40 FOOT BUFFER. SO NOTHING IS CLOSER THAN 40FT AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL LOT TO THE AND THEN THAT'S ALSO THE PRESCRIBED RIGHT OF WAY.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE SECTION, WE ACTUALLY WILL HAVE THE PRESCRIBED RIGHT OF WAY OF 40FT SO THAT THE ROAD CAN BE EXPANDED AND THEN YOU GET 40FT FROM THAT. SO THOSE LOTS ARE THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT QUIRKY ON RED ROCK.

THE ROAD, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME IDEA OF PRESCRIBED RIGHT OF WAY.

45 AND OUR LOT LINE. OUR OWNERSHIP LINE WOULD GO DOWN THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.

IT'S NOT THAT WAY. SO LITERALLY, THE ROAD IS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, 40FT.

AND THAT CREATES ABOUT A TEN FOOT IMPINGEMENT ON THE BACK OF THE LOT.

BUT WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT WE COULD. THESE ARE ALL LARGE LOTS ANYWAY, SO WE CAN PROBABLY PRETTY EASILY MAKE THAT THE 40 MEET THE 40 FOOT STANDARD.

SO THERE'D BE 40 FOOT ALONG RED ROCK AS WELL.

I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU HERE. SURE. SO IN THIS SLIDE, YOU SHOW THE HOUSE BEING ALL THE WAY TO THE FRONT OF THE LOT.

YEAH. WE JUST. SO WOULD YOU WRITE THAT INTO YOUR STANDARDS TO SAY AND THESE ON THESE LOTS OF ALONGSIDE RED ROCK WITH THE I CAN'T REALLY THE 40 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WE WOULD ONLY MAKE THE BUILDABLE AREA TOWARDS THE FRONT OF THE LOT.

WE WOULD HAVE THE WE'D HAVE REGULAR SETBACKS FOR ONE ACRE LOTS.

SO I THINK WHAT IN THIS CASE, IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO NOT HAVE THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE FACING RED ROCKS, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE CAN BUILD THE HOUSE ALL TOWARDS THE EXTREME FRONT OF THE PROPERTY, AND YOU PUT THAT INTO THE STANDARDS TO SAY THAT'S HOW WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THE BUILDABLE AREA.

THEN I'M OPEN TO THAT CONVERSATION. BUT IF YOU SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, HERE'S MY CONCEPT PLAN.

WE'RE GOING TO PUT THE HOUSE IN THE FRONT AND THEN YOU END UP BUILDING THE HOUSE COMPLETELY IN THE BACK. THEN I'M THEN I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT EXACTLY WHAT WE AGREED ON. SO I JUST WANT YOU TO WRITE INTO YOUR STANDARDS WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME HERE.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? LEXIN. SO THAT IT'S. YEAH.

AND THEN CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? I THINK SO, TEN BEFORE YOU DO THAT. BUT ADAM THANK YOU.

YEAH. FOR THAT FEEDBACK I THINK THAT THAT'S REASONABLE THAT WE WOULD HAVE CERTAIN GUIDELINES OF WHAT THOSE RIGHT.

WHAT? THAT IS BUT THE INTENTION, I THINK. I THINK THE INTENTION FOR MY UNDERSTANDING FROM THE TOWN AND FOR US IS WE DON'T WANT TO WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE HOMES

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WE WANT TO PLANT AND HAVE BEAUTIFUL SCREEN TRAILS AND PARKS THAT REALLY SURROUND THE PROPERTY.

AS WE HAD THE I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY, INCLUDING I WON'T PUT HER ON THE SPOT, BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT WERE IN THAT, EVERYBODY THAT SPOKE, I THINK ALMOST EVERYBODY, INCLUDING 1 OR 2 THAT IS NOT SUPPORTIVE OF CERTAIN TRAFFIC.

THINGS ARE SUPPORTIVE OF TREES, MORE TREES THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY AND ALL THE NEIGHBORS THAT SURROUND US, INCLUDING DOUBLE OAK RESIDENTS, WOULD RATHER SEE WHEN THEY'RE DRIVING BY A SCREEN OF TREES AND NOT HOUSES.

AND WE'LL SHOW YOU SOME STUFF A LITTLE BIT. BUT ADAM, THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. I THINK IT'S VERY WISE. SO SAME, SAME RESPONSE IF YOUR SOLUTION TO NOT HAVING THE HOUSES FACE THE STREET AND YOU'RE SAYING WE'RE GOING TO PLANT LOTS OF TREES, HOW MANY WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO BE? PUT THAT IN YOUR STANDARDS SO THAT IT'S CLEAR.

CLEAR, AND THEN THE TOWN CAN HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT PROMISE.

SO WHAT I HAD THE QUESTION I HAD ABOUT THIS SLIDE WAS IN THIS IS REPRESENTS THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER BEING FROM IT LOOKS LIKE THE CURB TO THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE STREET. THE SIDEWALK AND PARKWAY IS PART OF THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.

IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME HERE IN THIS SLIDE? SO IF THE EVENTUAL BUILD OUT OF POTENTIALLY FOR SHILOH IS 40FT OF RIGHT OF WAY, THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GIVE. SO, OUR CURRENT BOUNDARY GOES TO THE MIDDLE OF SHILOH.

SO, THIS BASICALLY SHOWS THAT WE WOULD GIVE 40FT TO THE RIGHT OF WAY OF THAT.

AND THEN THAT WOULD BE THE NEW OUR NEW LOT LINE.

SO, OUR NEW OVERALL LOT LINE LIKE DEVELOPMENT LOT LINE.

AND THEN FROM THERE IT WOULD BE ANOTHER 40FT TO THE BACK OF THIS LOT.

AND THEN IN THIS SLIDE THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE.

OR WE COULD SHOW THIS. WE COULD ACTUALLY WRITE IN THAT OUR REAR SETBACK IS FURTHER IN RIGHT.

YEAH. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS ASKING ABOUT. YEAH I MEAN SO IN THIS I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR HERE.

SO THE RIGHT WHAT YOU'RE CALLING RIGHT OF WAY INCLUDES THE STREET, ANY PARKWAY, ANY SIDEWALK.

IF THERE EVER WAS ONE, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE RIGHT OF WAY.

SO THEN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WOULD START AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

THE HOA, THE HOA PROPERTY LINE. INCLUDE YOUR TRAIL AND THEN 40FT.

OKAY. NEW PROPERTY LINE. SO YEAH, I THINK THAT AND I MEAN I WE'LL GO OVER ALL THESE POINTS AT THE END.

BUT JUST ON THIS ONE POINT I'M HAVING THE HOUSES TURNED AROUND THE OTHER DIRECTION.

AS LONG AS YOU'RE DOING THE ENHANCED BUFFERING, YOU'RE WRITING IN THE ENHANCED REAR YARD SETBACK AND YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE STANDARDS FOR WHAT KIND OF TREES YOU'RE GOING TO PLANT, HOW MANY THAT GETS ME COMFORTABLE WITH THAT PARTICULAR MODIFICATION.

THANK YOU. OH, YEAH. YOU'RE ASSUMING THAT THAT EVERYONE'S GOING TO FENCE THEIR BACKYARD, RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT. YOU'RE PUTTING A I SEE TWO DIFFERENT ANSWERS.

WELL, THERE IS JUST TO FOLLOW UP ON. YEAH. NOT SOLID FENCES SO THEY CAN BE OPEN FENCES, BUT THEY CAN'T BE SOLID FENCES.

I THINK THAT'S ALREADY A CODE THAT WE'RE NOT SUGGESTING THAT WE ASK FOR A VARIANCE ON THAT.

SO, WE WOULDN'T HAVE A SOLID LIKE SIX FOOT TALL FENCE, NO SOLID, NO SOLID WOOD FENCES.

SO PRIVACY FENCE THAT WOULD NOT REQUIRE THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TO WRITE IN NO PRIVACY FENCES BECAUSE OUR STANDARDS ALREADY HAVE THAT.

YES. LIKE MONTALCINO. THAT'S THE THAT. GO AHEAD.

SORRY. WE WOULD PROBABLY WRITE IT IN AS A STANDARD.

BUT THAT IS THE TOWN'S NORMAL CODE WOULD BE OPEN FENCING WITHIN CLUSTER OR CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENTS.

THANK YOU. AND THEN WE ALSO INTERNALLY MIGHT REDUCE THAT SO THAT THEY'RE LOWER.

THIS IS THAT BORROWED LANDSCAPE AND BORROWED WILDLIFE HABITAT IDEA.

SO EVERYBODY WALKS OUT OF THEIR BACKYARD AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE IN THE OPEN SPACE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE STANDING ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

IS THAT SHOULD I GO AHEAD? OKAY. OOPS. ALL RIGHT, YOU CAN START.

ALL RIGHT. YOU JUST GO THROUGH THESE IF YOU WANT.

OKAY, SO THE ENTRANCE AND LEXIN SPOKE TO. ACTUALLY, I TOOK I TOOK A COUPLE SCREENSHOTS OF OR NOT SCREENSHOTS.

PHOTOS OF LEXIN. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THAT UP THERE.

BUT THE SCENIC VIEWS AND BERMS SLIDE THAT LEXIN SHOWED.

I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE A SLIDE NUMBER, BUT IT HAD MODIFICATIONS WHERE IT SHOWED WHERE I THINK THE LANGUAGE.

I'LL JUST READ IT HERE. SCENIC VIEWS AND BERMS, VIEWS OF SCENIC CORRIDORS AND VISTAS SHOULD BE RETAINED BY THE LIMITED USE OF FOREGROUND PLANTINGS. NO EARTHEN BERM, SOLID MASONRY WALLS.

THIS WALL ONE IS WE REALLY ARE WANTING TO ELEVATE AND REALLY RAISE THE STANDARD AND DO SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL AND BEAUTIFUL.

AND SO PART OF THIS, AS WE'VE WORKED WITH THE DESIGN TEAM AND GOTTEN FEEDBACK FROM A LOT OF FOLKS IN THE TOWN AND AROUND THE AREA, THE ALTHOUGH THAT THIS IS LOOKS MAYBE A LITTLE BIT WHITE, WE WOULD BE USING NATIVE QUARRY STONE AND NOT MASONRY.

IN FACT, WE WOULD USE PROBABLY SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF TOWN HALL.

WHOEVER DID THAT DID A WONDERFUL JOB. IT LOOKS BEAUTIFUL. I THINK I'LL SCROLL ALL THE WAY TO THE END HERE.

WE HAVE DID YOU? RIGHT HERE. SO THIS WALL HERE IS I THINK THAT'S NATURAL STONE.

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BUT THEN QUINT'S RIGHT THERE IS WHEN WE ALL SCROLL BACK UP IN THE ENTRANCE, WE WANTED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT DID LOOK BEAUTIFUL. AND IT WASN'T JUST A REGULAR PIPE RAIL ENTRANCE THAT HAD SOME CLASS TO IT, BUT ALSO SOME SECURITY.

AND THEN ALSO SOUND BUFFERS. SOMEONE RECENTLY CALLED, I HOPE IT DOESN'T OFFEND ANYBODY, BUT THEY MENTIONED 1171 AS INTERSTATE 1171 BECAUSE IT IS SO BUSY. AND SO IT BECOMES A RACETRACK.

AND SO THAT SOUND IS PRETTY. IT'S PRETTY LOUD OUT THERE.

SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ED AND RUTH BROCK HERE HAVE PROBABLY ABLE TO ATTEST TO.

AND SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT LIVE EVEN ON HAWK ROAD RECOGNIZE THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC NOISE.

AND SO, AS WE PLANT AND WE REALLY LOOK, LOOK FOR OPEN SPACE MANAGEMENT AND WILDLIFE HABITAT.

THOSE TREES LIMITED BERMS AND THIS I DON'T KNOW, QUINT, DO YOU KNOW THE DIMENSIONS OF THIS OR HOW LONG THIS IS? NOT EXACTLY, BUT THERE'S IT'S MEANT TO BE INTERMITTENT, RIGHT.

AND THEN IT JUST DIVES BACK INTO THE HILL. RIGHT.

IT'S NOT LIKE, IT'S NOT LIKE THE ONES FURTHER EAST WHERE IT IS LITERALLY THE SAME HEIGHT ALL THE WAY ALONG.

THE ENTIRE BACK OF IT IS LITERALLY JUST SORT OF FILLING GAPS.

SORRY. I WAS WAITING ON SOME WATER. THE POINT OF THIS IS INTERMITTENT TO FILL GAPS AND IT DIVES BACK INTO THE HILL. IN FACT, ACTUALLY, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE.

SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE A COMBINATION OF NATURAL HILLS AND THEN ALSO BERMS THAT COME UP TO THE WALL.

THIS IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE. SO JUST FOR STAFF OR FOR COUNCIL AND FOR EVERYONE'S VIEW.

I'M JUST ASKING AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AS WE'RE TALKING HERE.

SO THIS DOESN'T SURROUND THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.

NO. BUT IT'S ONLY DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS 200FT, 100FT.

I THINK THE TOTAL LENGTH OF THE WALL IS ABOUT 300FT, BUT SOME PARTS OF IT ARE ONLY TWO FEET HIGH.

YEAH. SO THE ONLY MASONRY WALL ALONG 1171 IS 300FT AT THE ENTRANCE.

NOT ALL THE WAY TO SHILOH. NO. OKAY. SO THIS IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING AT IS JUST YOUR ENTRANCE.

IT IS LITERALLY THE ENTRY FEATURE. BUT WE DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT WE DIDN'T WANT COLUMNS.

OKAY. AND BEYOND THE MASONRY WALL. IS IT BERM ALL THE WAY TO SHILOH? I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU SOME IMAGES HERE, BUT SOME BERM WHEN APPROPRIATE BUT ALSO MAJORITY TREES.

AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO LET ME GO BACK UP TO OUR PLAN IS WE TALK ABOUT AND I BELIEVE SOME OF YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE SOME QUESTION BACKGROUND. I THINK MAYBE MISS WARNER. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S YOU.

BUT SOME PEOPLE. SO FROM AN EQUESTRIAN STANDPOINT, WE HAVE THIS ON THE TOWN CODE OR TOWN MASTER PLAN.

THERE'S A GREAT EQUESTRIAN TRAIL THAT CONNECTS EVENTUALLY DOWN TO LAKE GRAPEVINE.

NOW, ONE OF THE CHALLENGES. SO, MEGAN SHELDON ANDERSON, WHO LIVE HERE, THEY HAVE GOT QUITE A FEW HORSES.

AND THEN THERE'S APPLE, YOU KNOW, EQUESTRIAN PLACE UP HERE.

SO THERE'S QUITE A FEW HORSEBACK RIDING FOLKS AROUND HERE.

I DON'T CLAIM TO BE A PROFESSIONAL. I DON'T KNOW AS MUCH AS SOME OF YOU ALL, BUT I DO KNOW FROM THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN THAT RIDING A HORSE NEXT TO 1171 WOULD BE SOMEWHAT PROBLEMATIC. FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN COMMENT ON THAT.

SO THAT WOULD BE A MEG. MEG ANDERSON I DON'T MEAN TO QUOTE HER, BUT SHE'S YOU KNOW, A REALLY BIG EQUESTRIAN GAL.

SHE SAID, TYLER, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE COVERAGE, OTHERWISE A HORSE WILL SPOOK.

AND SHE SAID IT'S DANGEROUS FOR THE RIDER. IT'S JUST NOT. IT'S NOT SOMETHING INCLUDING IF THAT WAS EVEN A WALKING TRAIL FOR ANYBODY.

IF I THINK THAT SHILOH CHURCH DID A CLEANUP WHERE THEY CLEANED UP A CERTAIN AMOUNT, I DON'T KNOW.

HOW LONG DID YOU GUYS DO ALL ALONG? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT THEY KEEP. FLOWER MOUND BEAUTIFUL. JUST CLEANING UP ALONG THAT ROAD IS VERY DANGEROUS.

WE WERE CONCERNED FOR THE CHILDREN AND THE YOUTH THAT HELPED US.

IT'S JUST SO THAT AGAIN, GOES TO THAT POINT IS IF WE CAN BE RESPONSIBLE AND WE CAN PLANT MORE TREES.

IT IS NOT IT'S NOT THE BEST FINANCIAL DECISION TO DO ANY OF THIS STUFF.

SO I WANT TO BE I WANT TO MAKE THAT POINT. IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE LIVING THERE THAT THIS IS A HOME FOR US, THAT WHERE I WANT MY KIDS SAFE, I WANT THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS SAFE, AND I WANT TO REALLY BE A BLESSING TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND IF WE PLANT TREES AND THESE AREN'T WE'RE NOT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS REALLY EXCEPTIONAL, VERY EXPENSIVE, BUT EXCEPTIONAL AND REALLY WELL, LET ME JUST JUMP TO SOME OF THE SCREENS OR SOME OF THE VIEWS.

SO HERE IS COULDN'T GO THROUGH THAT IN A MINUTE.

SO, THIS IS LOOKING TOWARD SHILOH CHURCH. SO THIS IS ON 1171 LOOKING TOWARD THIS IS KING'S ROAD RIGHT UP HERE WHERE THE CURSOR IS ABOUT. AND THEN SHILOH CHURCH IS RIGHT OVER HERE IN THE CEMETERY.

SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING THIS WAY, THAT'S WHAT IT CURRENTLY LOOKS LIKE. OR I GUESS AS SOON AS WE GET SOME MORE LEAVES.

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AND IF YOU'RE DRIVING BY, THAT WOULD BE THE NEW VIEW.

OR IT COULD BE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT DOES FIT TO SCALE.

I DID THAT BECAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VIEW CORRIDORS AND VISTAS, I LOVE THAT.

I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF IT. HOWEVER, THE REALITY IS, IS THERE'S GOING TO BE HOMES THERE.

AND SO IF WE DO THAT, OKAY, YOU HAVE THAT VIEW.

NOT BAD. BUT NOW IF WE PLANT TREES AND WE'RE INTENTIONAL WITH ACTUALLY CLUSTERING HOMES TOGETHER AND MOVING THEM OUTSIDE OF VIEWS, THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN COULD LOOK LIKE. IN FACT, A LITTLE BIT MORE DENSE.

ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT I'M PERSONALLY THAT'S NOT IN THE PLAN, BUT I'M REAL AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN OFFICIALLY DO IT WITHOUT THE BLESSING FROM TXDOT. BUT WE WANT TO PLANT WILDFLOWERS ALL ALONG IN FRONT, WHICH I THINK SHOULD BE DONE, AND ESPECIALLY LIKE BLUEBONNETS, AND WE'LL BE COMING INTO SEASON WITH THE INDIAN PAINTBRUSH IS COMING UP SOON.

AND SO WE GO AGAIN. SO THIS THIS VIEW HERE WOULD BE RIGHT BY UP SHILOH, RIGHT BY THE TRAILER PARK WHERE THAT SEWAGE SYSTEM IS HERE.

AND LOOKING WESTWARD. THAT'S WHAT WE'D LOOK AT.

TWO ACRE LOTS. AND THAT'S WHAT OUR PLAN WOULD BE WITH OUR, OUR PLAN.

SO A LOT MORE TREES, SOME BERMS AND WILDLIFE HABITAT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REGARDING WILDLIFE HABITAT IS WE'VE BEEN THANKFUL TO BE ABLE TO CONNECT WITH THE WILDLIFE.

NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION THEY'VE BEEN OUT TO THE PROPERTY. WE'RE WORKING WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF WORKING WITH THEM TO IN COORDINATION FOR SOME WILDLIFE HABITAT AND INCLUDING THEIR MONARCH. MONARCH. MONARCH PROGRAM. I THINK THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED.

BUT HAVING CONTINUOUS THE MORE COVERAGE FOR WILDLIFE, THE BETTER.

WHEN WE HAVE LITTLE CLUSTERS OF TREES, THAT'S FINE.

BUT SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT HAVING I THINK IT WAS ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS TALKED ABOUT FOX OR DEER.

WELL, IF YOU HAVE, YOU WANT TO FUNNEL WILDLIFE ALSO AWAY FROM ROADWAYS.

WE HAVE A CULVERT THAT'S ON THE EQUESTRIAN TRAIL PLAN THAT IS DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT GOES SOUTH.

WE DO NOT WANT TREE OR WE REALLY ARE HOPEFUL THAT THAT THERE ISN'T DEER RUNNING ACROSS.

1171 WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THEY DON'T SURVIVE. I'VE HAD I'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, HAD TO HELP CLEAN SOME UP RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR HOUSE HERE.

AND SO WHEN WE DO HAVE NICE BERMS AND TREES AND WILDLIFE, CONSISTENT WILDLIFE FLOW THAT THAT CAN DIRECT THE WILDLIFE TO NATURAL AREAS, WE SEE A LOT LESS FATALITIES OF THE WILDLIFE IN, IN TRAFFIC AND FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT AS WELL WITH FENCES.

HOW ARE THE WILDLIFE GOING TO BE GETTING INSIDE? I MEAN, YOU TALK ABOUT A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR, BUT HOW WHEN IT'S FENCED PERIMETER ON THE PERIMETER SO THAT THAT FENCE.

VERY GOOD QUESTION. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT. THE FENCE AS IT IS, IS OPEN.

THERE IS SOME IN SOME AREAS THERE'S THAT ESSENTIALLY WIRE THAT'S ALONG THE FENCE IN SOME AREAS AND SOME AREAS ARE NOT.

THAT WOULD ONLY BECOME OPEN. AND SO DEER HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THOSE FENCES.

THEY, THEY JUMP OVER THEM WITH A BREEZE. THE REST OF THE SMALLER ANIMALS, COYOTES, ETC., HAVE NO PROBLEM NOW WHERE WE'RE NOT HAVING ANY SOLID FENCES.

AND SO THOSE OPEN FENCES GO AHEAD. YEAH. NO, I WAS GOING TO SAY IT'S RIGHT NOW.

IT'S FENCED THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY'RE GRAZING.

BUT WE MIGHT TAKE THE SHEEP TIGHT OFF A LOT OF THE PIPE RAIL FENCE.

YEAH, I MEAN, THAT'S KIND OF THE POINT OF THIS IS IF WE TOOK THE SHEEP, THE, YOU KNOW, THE I DON'T KNOW, I ALWAYS CALL IT SHEEP TIGHT. IT'S THE GRID, THE METAL GRID THAT'S ON THERE.

RIGHT. LIKE THAT WOULD COME OFF. SO YOU HAVE OPEN PIPE RAIL FENCE.

SO THAT'S ALL STRATEGIC TO HOW. AND THAT'S KIND OF WHY TYLER WAS WE HAD THE MEETING WITH THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION AND SAID, CAN YOU HELP US DESIGN LIKE THE REST OF THIS? WE'VE OPENED ALL THIS UP. THEY WERE VERY EXCITED.

AND HOW YOU WOULD FACILITATE THAT? SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, BUT THE REASON THAT THE FENCING KEEPS ANIMALS FROM PASSING RIGHT NOW IS BECAUSE THERE'S COWS INSIDE THAT DON'T WANT TO GET OUT.

AND RUTH AND SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS CAN ATTEST TO THERE IS NO PROBLEM WITH THE COYOTES OR DEER RUNNING ACROSS THIS WHOLE THING.

IN FACT, THEY GO INTO THEIR YARD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE TIMES A DAY AND THEY SCURRY RIGHT THROUGH THERE.

SO BUT THE BUT REALLY TALKING ABOUT THE TREES AS YOU LOOK ALONG, GOING BACK HERE AS WE LOOK ALONG, GOING UP SHILOH, RIGHT AS WE HAVE REALLY BEAUTIFUL TREES IN THIS WHOLE AREA ALONG HERE BECOMES TREES AND A VIEW WHEN IT SCREENS THE TRAFFIC FROM THE OUTSIDE, BUT ALSO FROM THE INSIDE, YOU'RE REDUCING SOUND AND ALSO THAT.

SO NOW YOU HAVE YOUR CHIPMUNKS, YOUR SQUIRRELS, YOU KNOW, RACCOONS.

ALL THE ANIMALS CAN SCURRY ALONG THERE AND NOT BE INTERRUPTED BY OPEN SPACE.

AND SO SOME OF THAT'S FROM ONE FROM THE FEEDBACK FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT WE SPOKE TO, WE'VE REALLY ASKED THIS A LOT.

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SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK THERE. SO GO AHEAD.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING. YEAH. NO, I WAS JUST GOING TO SO YEAH.

GO TO THE SLIDE THAT YOU JUST WERE ON THIS ONE OR THIS ONE HERE.

I'LL LET YOU DRIVE. YEAH. I THINK CAN I HAVE ONE OF THESE WATERS? YEAH. ONES FOR YOU. SO THIS IS THE, THIS IS NOT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT LEXIN SHOWED.

THIS IS WHAT WE BASICALLY ARE SAYING THAT WE WANT TO DO TO DENSIFY.

SO THE CODE SAYS THAT THE TREES NEED TO BE IN DRIFTS AND GROVES.

AND WE'RE SAYING, WELL THAT'S GOOD, EXCEPT WE WANT IT A LITTLE MORE FULL.

AND WE AND PARTICULARLY THE WAY THAT THIS IS IT WOULD HAVE A LINE OF TREES KIND OF ALONG THE WHOLE EDGE.

WHICH IS BASICALLY THE CONDITION ALL UP AND DOWN.

CROSS TIMBERS, NATURALLY. THERE YOU GO. SO THESE PHOTOS WERE TAKEN YESTERDAY OF THIS IS JUST TO THE WEST OF RED ROCK LOOKING WEST. AND THEN THIS IS 2 OR 18 IS RIGHT HERE.

AND SO THERE IS THESE NATURAL TREES THAT ARE DENSE.

THEY ARE WILDLIFE HABITAT. THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL.

THAT'S THE WAY IT USED TO BE. NOW, AT SOME POINT THEY WERE, THEY WERE OR THEY WERE MOWED DOWN AND CUT DOWN AND MADE FOR PASTURE LAND.

BUT BRINGING THAT TYPE OF TREE BACK, THESE WOULD NOT BE MANICURED.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE. NOW, ANOTHER AREA OF TOWN THAT IS REALLY THAT HAS DONE A REALLY NICE JOB WITH A BERM THAT THAT THE RESIDENTS REALLY LOVE.

AND IT HAS A WALKING TRAIL BEHIND IT IS BRIDLEWOOD ALONG BRIDLEWOOD AREA.

BRIDLEWOOD HAS DONE AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS, IS IF YOU ZOOM IN HERE, WE WOULD NOT BE MANICURED THAT THAT WOULD BE NATIVE GRASSES AND WILDLIFE. AND SO THAT WOULD BE UNKEPT FOR THE NATURAL FEEL.

SO GO AHEAD, QUINT. ALL RIGHT. WHERE WERE WE? OKAY, SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME ABOUT UP WAS ABOUT ORCHARDS.

AND WE'RE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING IS THAT THIS BE HEALTHY FOR HUMANS TOO.

SO IF ANYBODY THAT ACTUALLY OWNS AN ORCHARD WILL TELL YOU IF YOU WANT BIRDS, PLANT AN ORCHARD, RIGHT. IF YOU WANT WILDLIFE PLANTED ORCHARD, THEY'RE JUST THE NATURAL HABITAT. SO, WE KNOW THAT THE ORCHARDS WILL DO THAT FOR THE WILDLIFE. WHAT WE'RE ALSO PROPOSING IS THAT THERE'S A WAY TO TEACH CHILDREN HAVE OLDER FOLKS, RETIRED FOLKS. THERE'S LITERALLY THINGS TO DO THAT ARE PRODUCTIVE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO CHANGE, HOW WE LIVE IS TO PROVIDE THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PEOPLE TO BE PRODUCTIVE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT ON THEIR HOMES.

THEY DON'T HAVE ROOM ON A EVEN ON AN ACRE LOT TO HAVE AN ORCHARD.

BUT IF THEY CAN WALK OUT THEIR BACK DOOR AND THERE'S AN ORCHARD AND THEIR KIDS CAN WALK OUT THE BACK DOOR AND THERE'S AN ORCHARD.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK IS SIGNIFICANT TO KNOW IS THIS ISN'T JUST WILLY NILLY.

AND WE'RE NOT IT'S NOT HOPEFUL. WE WOULD ONLY PLANT DWARF OR SEMI DWARF TREES.

AND IN FACT, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T EVEN BUY REAL TREES, FRUIT TREES ANYMORE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH LIABILITY ON LADDERS.

RIGHT. SO BUT THE IDEA IS THAT KIDS FOLKS CAN ACTUALLY GO OUT AND COLLECT IT.

THERE MAY BE, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE A TRACTOR OR A FOUR WHEELER OUT THERE COLLECTING, YOU KNOW, APPLES OR WHATEVER. I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING IT OUT THERE SO THE KIDS CAN LEARN HOW TO DO THAT AND DO IT SAFELY AND SUPERVISED.

BUT NONE OF THAT HAPPENS ACCIDENTALLY. SO PLANTING THOSE ORCHARDS OUT THERE AND MAKING THOSE LANDS THAT THEY'RE SURROUNDED BY, AT LEAST PARTIALLY A LOT OF IT'S THERE'S NO ORCHARDS IN THE MIDDLE BECAUSE THAT'S ALL GRASSLAND.

IT'S MEANT TO LOOK LIKE GRAZING LAND. IT'S I MEAN, IT'S DESIGNED LIKE THAT, BUT WHERE THERE ARE ORCHARDS, IT'S SPECIFICALLY SO THAT THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE FOR HEALTH AND ACTIVITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AND THE NATIONAL WILDLIFE FEDERATION LOVED THAT IDEA.

THEY, THEY LITERALLY WHEN THEY WERE ON SITE, THEY, THEY SAID THIS WILL HELP GET THE CERTIFICATION.

AND ONE OF THE AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, WE'RE NOT.

WE SHOW APPLES HERE. APPLES SOMETIMES ARE HARD TO GROW IN TEXAS.

SO PEAR TREES AND ALSO PECANS. SO WE HAVE THE STATE TREE, YOU KNOW.

SO BEING ABLE TO TO BRING IN SOME REAL NATIVE SOME NATIVE TREES THAT WORK REALLY WELL AS WELL.

SO JUST TO ADD THAT THIS THIS ONE'S IMPORTANT.

SO TOMMY HAD A GREAT IDEA. TOMMY HAD A GREAT IDEA IN OUR LAST MEETING TO TRY AND CONVEY WHAT THE USES OF THE AGRICULTURAL LOTS WOULD BE.

I'M SORRY FOR THE TYPO. THAT'S EIGHT LOTS. THAT'S BECAUSE WE ADDED A LOT.

BECAUSE WE COULDN'T. THERE WAS SOMETHING WE COULDN'T DO IN AN OPEN SPACE. ULTIMATELY TOMMY SUGGESTED THAT WE TAKE THE EXISTING AGRICULTURAL CODE. THE AG LOTS ARE DESIGNED. THEY'RE ALL AT LEAST TWO ACRE MINIMUM.

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AND SO WHAT WE DID WAS TOMMY SAID, SCRATCH OUT ALL THE ONES YOU DON'T WANT, WHICH MAKES IT REALLY EASY FOR YOU ALL TO UNDERSTAND.

IT'S YOUR CODE. AND WE'RE BASICALLY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A BUILDING MATERIAL YARD.

WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A FIRE STATION. WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE A RAILROAD TRACK GOLF COURSE.

WE WOULD PRINT THIS. THIS IS PART OF THIS EDITED LIST OF USES THAT COME FROM YOUR CODE WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE PD. SO, THESE ARE LITERALLY THIS IS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM YOUR CODE.

SO WE DON'T WANT A HELIPORT. THAT ALREADY. YEAH.

WE DON'T WANT THAT FOR SURE. WE DON'T WANT THOSE.

SO THAT SEEMS LIKE THE EASIEST WAY TO CONVEY WHAT THE USES WOULD ACTUALLY BE FOR THOSE LOTS.

IT'S IN YOUR CODE. AND THEN WE BASICALLY WOULD GO IN AND SAY WE'RE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING KENNEL OR LIVESTOCK AUCTION OR A FEEDLOT, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE WANT TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, FFA OR WHATEVER AND HAVE AN ANIMAL EXHIBITION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAVING GOATS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THAT'S KIND OF THE WHOLE POINT OF HAVING THAT. SO THAT'S SORT OF OUR LATEST ATTEMPT OR OUR ON A BASED ON DISCUSSION WITH TOMMY AND LEXIN ON HOW TO GET TO THE USES OF THOSE LOTS, AND WE'D LIKE ANY FEEDBACK IF THERE WAS ANY FEEDBACK ON HERE THAT YOU ALL SAID, HEY, I DEFINITELY OR IF YOU HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMETHING IT MAY NOT BE APPROPRIATE FOR TO ANSWER TONIGHT IF YOU OUT OF RESPECT FOR TIME AND PLUS YOU GUYS HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THIS, BUT PLEASE LET US KNOW. SO THESE ARE THE USES BY RIGHT PERMITTED.

THESE ARE THE USES BY RIGHT WHERE YOU HAVE TO SPECIFICALLY ASK.

AND THEN THESE ARE THE USES TEMPORARY. SO THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM YOUR OKAY.

SO OKAY SO THE PARKS QUESTION. YES. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A PRETTY SPECIFIC THERE ARE A LOT OF LONG LINEAR PARKS. THEIR USE, THEY ARE USUALLY VERY SPECIFICALLY INTENDED, LIKE THEY ARE HERE TO MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN WITHOUT PUTTING THE PARK ALONG THIS EDGE, IT'S VERY UNLIKELY THAT IT WILL EVER GET IMPROVED ENOUGH FOR THE TRAIL TO BE USED FOR HORSEBACK OR FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD THAT WOULD HAVE TO COME OUT OF THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, FUNDING OR WHATEVER TO DO THAT. WE'RE SAYING THAT WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS PUT THE PARK ALONG THIS EDGE SO THAT IT FACES THE PEOPLE THAT WOULD USE IT.

IT WOULD FACE THE CHRISTINA'S, IT WOULD FACE THE CEMETERY.

AND THEN ACTUALLY, IT WOULD REALLY HELP THE TRAIL GET DEVELOPED.

WE ACTUALLY PUT HORSE TIE UPS IN THEIR SHELTERS IN THERE, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT A DEVELOPED PARK WOULD HAVE, THAT JUST A TRAIL THROUGH THERE WOULD NEVER HAVE.

SO A LINEAR PARK AND A TRAIL IS JUST A HIGHLY DEVELOPED PART OF THE TRAIL, AND PEOPLE AND PEOPLE WOULD ACTUALLY RIDE THERE.

I THINK PEOPLE WOULD RIDE THERE, TIE UP THEIR HORSES.

GO TO CHRISTINA'S OR DO SOMETHING OR WHATEVER.

AND THEN ALSO LITERALLY ALL THE USES FOR THE PEOPLE ACTUALLY WALKING BACK AND FORTH, RIGHT? SO PUTTING IT ON THIS SIDE, I KNOW IT SEEMS A LITTLE ODD, BUT THE REALITY IS, IS THAT'S REALLY WHERE ALL THE ACTIVITY AND WHERE THE FACES, THE, THE CITY. AND SO HAVING THAT, HAVING THAT ON THAT SIDE IS THE, IS THE INTEREST OF THAT.

WELL ALSO LIKE AND JUST TO KIND OF ADD HERE. YEAH.

AND SO THE, THE CEMETERY ALSO IS AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, IT'S VERY LOUD THERE.

AND SO WHEN THEY DO HAVE SERVICE OR PEOPLE GO SEE THEIR LOVED ONES, THEY DON'T HAVE A QUIET SPOT.

AND SO BEING ABLE TO HAVE AN AREA WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO HAVE REFLECTION AREA TIME WITH LOVED ONES, PART OF A FUNERAL SERVICE, THEY'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THAT NOW TO SPEAK TO THE POINT ABOUT THE PARK OR THE OPEN SPACE OR BEING DEDICATED TO THE CEMETERY.

WE WERE BASICALLY WE JUST TOLD WE TOLD THE SHILOH CEMETERY ALONG WITH THE CHURCH, THAT LOOK, IF THERE IS A WAY TO DO SOMETHING WITH THAT, I JUST WE JUST WANT TO RAISE OUR HAND AND SAY THAT WE WANT TO BE FLEXIBLE.

AND IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A BLESSING TO THE TOWN OR A TOWN NEED, THEN BY ALL MEANS, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT THAT IS. YOU'RE RIGHT, THE SHILOH CHURCH OR SHILOH CEMETERY HAS SAID THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO WHICH ONE YOU JUST SAID IT, BUT THE PEOPLE DON'T.

OR THE FOLKS GO THERE, THEY DON'T LEAVE, SO THEY ARE OCCUPIED.

I APPRECIATE I GET THAT AND SO BUT THAT DOES MEAN THAT THERE ARE STILL PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO SEE LOVED ONES.

IT IS A TIME OF REFLECTION, AND SO THAT BECOMES A GOOD SPOT FOR THEM.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE ASKING FOR MUCH SPACE. THEY AGAIN, THAT'S NOT A THAT'S NOT A SOMETHING THAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO ASK FOR.

WE JUST WANT TO REMAIN OPEN AND FLEXIBLE WITH WHATEVER THE TOWN MIGHT WANT TO DO THERE.

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WELL, ONE OF THE IDEAS THAT CAME. REMEMBER, THIS IS A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

A LOT OF THESE IDEAS WERE NOT MINE. I JUST SAID, GUYS, IF THERE'S I'M HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU.

THEY SAID, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF SPACE. I THINK THAT THEY PRESENTED EARLIER. AND ONE OF THE IDEAS IS TO DO A AGAIN, I DON'T I DON'T THINK ANY OF THEM IS HERE RIGHT NOW. ARE THEY? NO. SO I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK OUT OF TURN, BUT THERE HAS BEEN SOME IDEAS THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME PERIMETER, LIKE MAYBE TEN FEET WORTH AROUND THEIR PERIMETER WHERE THEY COULD GET SOME EXTRA PLOTS AND POTENTIALLY THEY TALKED ABOUT DOING, LIKE, AN URN WALL. SOME NEEDS THAT THE CEMETERY HAS.

I'M SURE THEY'D BE HAPPY TO TALK TO YOU GUYS OR PARKS.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR REQUEST.

I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE ARE WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR.

DID YOU SAY THAT THE HORSE TRAIL WILL NOT BE PROVIDED UNLESS THIS IS PARKLAND DEDICATION? NO, NO, WE'RE JUST SAYING THAT THE UTILIZATION OF IT, IF WE DON'T REALLY AREN'T.

WE'RE SAYING THAT FROM THE FEEDBACK WE'VE GOTTEN FROM HORSE PROFESSIONALS AND PEOPLE THAT ARE REALLY RIDING, IS THAT UNLESS WE REALLY INTENTIONALLY HAVE NICE TREES AND A BUFFER THERE, IT'S NOT GOING TO PROBABLY BE UTILIZED.

AND IN THIS, IN THIS DRAWING, WE ACTUALLY ARE PUTTING A TRAILHEAD SO THAT PEOPLE CAN STOP THEIR PULL OFF.

THAT ALSO FACILITATES PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE PRIVATE FOR THE CEMETERY OR WHATEVER.

AND THAT LIKE LITERALLY, THEY COULD JUST BE USING THE PARK SO THAT THEY CAN BE PENSIVE ABOUT THEIR LOVED ONE OR WHATEVER.

I MEAN, LIKE YOU SAY, HAVING IT ADJACENT SOLVES A LOT OF THE THINGS, THE SERVICES THAT ARE ALONG THAT CORRIDOR.

WELL, I MEAN, I GUESS THIS IS ONE OF THE ONE OF THE PARTS OF YOUR PROPOSAL THAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH.

IT'S NOT A PARK IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF ZIGZAGS THROUGH THE BACK OF THESE BETWEEN THE BACKYARDS AND THIS OTHER PROPERTY.

AND IT'S A HORSE TRAIL. I DON'T THINK THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF REQUIREMENTS FOR A HORSE TRAIL.

LIKE IT HASN'T HAVE TO BE TRAILER PARKING FOR ONE.

YEAH, WELL THE PARKING THEIRS IS PARKING REPRESENTED. AND THAT I THINK I WOULD BE BIG ENOUGH FOR JANVIER IS POINTING OUT IT'S NOT TRAILER PARKING.

YEAH. WHOSE PROPERTY IS THAT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S NEXT TO THE CEMETERY.

CEMETERY? YEAH. THIS IS THE PROPERTY LINE FOR THE CEMETERY.

AND THEN WE WOULD THIS THIS SPACE RIGHT HERE IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THAT WOULD BE A GOOD AREA FOR A TRAILHEAD, SOME PARKING AND, YOU KNOW, SOME PICNIC TABLES, SOME REFLECTION AREA. AND SO IT MAY BE AS A BLEND OF, IF YOU'LL MAYBE YOU GUYS WOULD ALLOW US TO SAY, HEY, WE'LL ALLOW YOU TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO CALL THIS TWO ACRES OF PARK, BUT YOU STILL NEED, YOU KNOW, NEED TO WORK WITH PARKS. AND SO, I THINK THE PARK I'M LOOKING FOR IS THE POND AND THAT AREA AROUND THE POND, NOT THE SLIVER OF PROPERTY BETWEEN THE BACKYARDS.

I FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST MAINTAINING THE AREA OUTSIDE SOMEONE'S BACKYARD.

THE PARK WOULD BE AROUND THE POND, AND THEN THE HORSE TRAIL PART WOULD BE OPEN SPACE.

THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR OPEN SPACE CALCULATION. YEAH.

SO, WE ACTUALLY THOUGHT OF THAT AND WE THOUGHT ABOUT. SO THE WAY THIS WORKS IS THE FENCE WOULD BE RIGHT UP TO THE POND, BUT FOR LIABILITY REASONS, WE KEPT IT INSIDE. WE KEPT THE POND INSIDE. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S POTENTIALLY IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD MAKE THE FENCE, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WHOLE THAT WHOLE THING IS A PARK.

BUT, WELL, THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE LIABLE FOR IT ANYMORE.

NO, NO, NO. THE CITY WOULD BE. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH.

THAT'S WHY WE WERE SAYING THEY COULD ENJOY THE VIEW OF THE POND OR WHATEVER WITHOUT HAVING A LIABILITY ON THE CITY FOR, YOU KNOW, HAVING A POND IN A PARK THAT. SO I DON'T WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT WORKS.

BUT WE WERE WE WERE ACTUALLY THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE VALUABLE SO THAT THEY.

SO IT LIMITS LIABILITY FOR YOU GUYS. I THINK IT'S A LOT MORE VALUABLE IF IT'S AN OPEN SPACE WHERE PEOPLE CAN RECREATE, THEN THIS NOT AS USEFUL SPACE THAT'S BEHIND THE HOUSES.

SO I WOULD SWAP THAT WITH YOU. YEAH. SO WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO HAVING IT THAT IT ESSENTIALLY IS LIKE, SO IT'S NOT AROUND THE WHOLE POND BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE THAT AS A AS AN AREA FOR KIDS AND RESEARCH AND STUFF FOR THE KIDS.

DO YOU THINK THAT WE'D BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF BARRIER WHERE IT IS LIKE, IF YOU SEE MY CURSOR RIGHT HERE, LIKE MAYBE THIS SPACE GOES UP TO THE POND HERE, BUT IT'S NOT ALL OF THIS UP HERE WHERE THE PONDS ARE ACCESSIBLE, WHERE YOU CAN EVEN PUT IN A MAYBE A DOCK FOR FISHING.

I'M INTERESTED IN A COHESIVE SPACE THAT PEOPLE CAN RECREATE IN THOSE DETAILS.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DEDICATION NEEDS TO BE OR HOW MUCH THIS IS. I THINK THE PARKS BOARD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU, BUT NOT. I'M DEFINITELY NOT INTERESTED IN THE HORSE TRAIL BEHIND THE HOUSES LIKE THAT.

I WOULD NOT ACCEPT THAT AS PARK DEDICATION. FAIR ENOUGH.

BUT. BUT JUST BASED ON YOUR FEEDBACK, I WAS JUST ASKING.

YEAH. NO, I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I JUST IT'S TOO MUCH DETAIL.

I'M NOT QUITE PREPARED TO ANSWER THAT, BUT THE CONCEPT OF A COHESIVE PARK, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S ALONG 1171 AND IT HAS PARKING AND PEOPLE CAN RECREATE.

I THINK WE'RE KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE. IT'S JUST DETAILS.

ONE OF THE THINGS IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ALSO SERVICE THE COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT ARE FREQUENTING THE COMMERCIAL THERE, RIGHT.

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WE OFTEN GET PHONE CALLS OF SAYING, HEY, SOMEONE JUMPED THE FENCE AGAIN.

SO YOU GUYS MAY KNOW. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE IF ANYBODY'S EVER FISHED THERE.

BUT THESE ARE PRETTY WELL KNOWN FISHING PONDS IN THE AREA.

AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR, YOU KNOW, LONGER THAN ANY OF US HAVE BEEN AROUND.

SO THAT WOULD ALSO, TO ADAM'S POINT, IF WE WERE ABLE TO, ESPECIALLY IF WE DID SOMETHING.

I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, IF YOU DID SOMETHING WHERE IT WAS IN SOME AREAS WHERE PEOPLE TRY TO FISH, IT CAN BE DANGEROUS. BUT IF YOU DID SOMETHING WHERE THERE WAS A DOCK THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE, I THINK THAT THAT COULD BE I THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK.

SO, WHAT IS THE WHAT OTHER THINGS DO WE WANT TO RUN THROUGH HERE, QUINT? ALL RIGHT, LET ME LOOK AT MY NOTES. LEXIN DO YOU SEE US MISSING ANYTHING? SO, THESE ARE, THIS IS REALLY ACTUALLY VERY CLOSE SURPRISINGLY, TO THE LIST THAT LEXIN MADE.

THESE ARE BASICALLY THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WE ARE ASKING FOR.

ONE THING IS, IS I THINK LEXIN POINTED OUT THE THAT WE HAD A REQUEST FOR THE WORK AT HOME STANDARDS.

OH, THAT ONE HAS WE, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING THAT.

SO WHAT THAT THAT HAS CHANGED LEXIN. SO, WE'RE NOT REQUESTING THAT IT JUST BE OPEN.

THE CURRENT STANDARDS THAT WAS WITHIN RESIDENTIAL.

WE HAD KICKED THAT AROUND BEFORE, BUT WE TOOK YOUR FEEDBACK AND THAT'S NOT A REQUEST I DON'T THINK WE'RE.

YEAH. YEP. YEP. SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS. AND WE DIDN'T WE DIDN'T DO A FULL RESUBMITTAL BECAUSE WE DID WANT TO GET SOME FEEDBACK BEFORE WE WENT AHEAD AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DESIGN THINGS. SO LEXIN THANK YOU FOR THAT.

DO YOU THINK I'M MISSING ANYTHING? LEXIN. LEXIN IS VERY DECISIVE ON BEING ABLE TO WORK ON THINGS HERE.

SO LET ME JUST LOOK AT ONE MORE THING. THE. PROPOSED.

YEAH. THE HOME OCCUPATION STANDARD. GOT THAT.

AND THEN THE GREEN SPACE. SO ESSENTIALLY JUST KIND OF IN CLOSING HERE AND UNLESS QUINT HAS ANYTHING WE'RE THE MASTER PLAN CHANGES THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR ARE BOILED DOWN INTO REALLY ASKING FOR MORE TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER.

AND THAT'S THE BIG SPECIFIC ONE IS MORE TREES.

AND TO SCREEN THE VIEW FROM THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN AND THE OUTSIDE AND THE INSIDE LOOKING OUT.

AND FOR SOUND AND OBVIOUSLY ALL THE THINGS THAT GO ALONG WITH GOOD WITH TREES.

AND SO THAT, THAT AND THEN THE ENTRANCE. LOOK, WE LOVE YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT, BUT WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING REALLY BEAUTIFUL.

I'M GOING TO I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE THE NAME. MAYBE ONE OF YOU GUYS CAN TELL ME OFFICIALLY. MONTALCINO. HOW DO YOU SAY THAT? SUBDIVISION IN MONTALCINO.

MONTALCINO. OKAY. IF ANYBODY'S GOT THAT CORRECT, I WANT TO.

I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. I THINK THIS IS ALSO A TOWN IN ITALY THAT WE DROVE BY WHEN WE WERE THERE LAST YEAR, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE IT. HOWEVER, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF STUFF THAT THEY'VE DONE THERE IN OTHER AREAS, WE WERE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY NICE. THEY'VE DONE SOMETHING NICE THERE. THIS IS MUCH MORE NATURAL.

I SHOULDN'T SAY MORE NATURAL, BUT MORE USING LOCAL STONE.

AND SO WITH THAT, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK OVER THE LAST LITTLE WHILE OR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO GET SOME OF YOUR FEEDBACK, IT'S BEEN VALUABLE. AND I DO HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE, AS I JUST RELATED TO THE LAST TIME YOU AND I MET.

YES, SIR. THAT WAS YEAR PLUS AGO. I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT IT WAS.

IT WAS A WHILE BACK, BUT I STILL HAVE SOME OF THE SAME CONCERNS AS WHEN WE MET AT THAT POINT.

AND YOU MENTIONED THE TREES AROUND THE PERIMETER.

AND THAT KIND OF DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF THE SCENIC CORRIDOR. YOU ADDRESS THAT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER? YEAH. SO THAT'S A CONCERN IS JUST WALLING OFF EVERYTHING.

I KNOW IT'S NOT A MASONRY WALL AROUND THE PERIMETER, BUT IT IS GOING TO BE A VISUAL SCREEN ALL AROUND THE PERIMETER AND THE RENDERING, LIKE HERE. THESE ARE OLD, MATURE TREES. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PLANT FROM DAY ONE? THE TREES THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AND THAT WE'LL BE WORKING WITH THE ARBORISTS ON, DO PROVIDE SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL COVERAGE ALONG WITH WHEN YOU HAVE A BIT OF A BERM.

AND SO, WE'D WORK WITH. SO THIS DOESN'T SHOW A BERM DOES IT, QUINT.

RIGHT. THERE'S A SMALL ONE. THERE'S A TWO FOOT BERM IN THERE WHERE THE TRAIL GOES. YEAH. AND SO YES OF COURSE THESE THERE ARE MATURE BUT ALSO IN MAKING THAT INVESTMENT TO PAY FOR TREES THAT ARE MORE MATURE. OF COURSE IT COSTS MORE OF SOME PEOPLE.

AND I KNOW THAT IT COULD COME ACROSS AS DISINGENUOUS OR EVEN FACTUAL FROM SOME DEVELOPERS THAT WOULD SAY, OKAY, I'M GOING TO PLANT TREES AND THEY GO AND PLANT YOUR SIX INCH TREE ALONG THERE AND WAIT 30 YEARS FOR IT TO GROW UP.

THAT'S NOT OUR INTENTION. WE'D BE OPEN TO HAVING CERTAIN STANDARDS OF WHAT THE MINIMUM TREE SIZE WOULD BE.

ALSO WORKING WITH THE ARBORIST AND THE PLANTING PLAN.

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SO, THANK YOU. YEAH. AND YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME LANDSCAPE BUFFER YOU KNOW GUIDELINES.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT WE RECOMMEND. AND WOULD YOU BE OPEN TO MORE CLOSELY FOLLOWING WHAT THE TOWN IS REQUESTING? YOU CAN STILL HAVE SOME MATURE TREES HERE AND THERE, BUT NOT JUST THE WALL THAT VISUALLY BLOCKS EVERYTHING.

AND YOU'RE STILL GOING TO GET SOME OF THAT SOUND DAMPENING. YOU'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE SOME OF THE VISUAL YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO BREAK UP THE VIEW. SO I THINK IT'S GOING TO ACCOMPLISH SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. BUT IT ALSO WOULD ALLOW SOME SCENIC CORRIDORS IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS ON THE PROPERTY. I FULLY APPRECIATE THAT.

AND YOU GUYS ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE TO GET BLESSING FROM.

SO WHAT YOU GUYS SAY IS WHAT'S GOING TO END UP GOING? BUT I DO WANT TO, AGAIN, REALLY STRONGLY ASK FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER AND REVIEW THIS AND TALK TO THE COMMUNITY.

AND AS WHEN YOU TRULY PULL THIS VERSUS THAT, AS YOU SEEN TONIGHT, YOU MIGHT HAVE ME BE MORE FLEXIBLE, BUT I THINK THAT SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS ARE ALSO PRETTY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS.

AND WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT SOME OF THIS HOW THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENED WAS FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORS.

SURE. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO SOME OTHER FOLKS HERE IN A MINUTE. I DO HAVE MORE QUESTIONS, BUT JUST ONE MORE FOR RIGHT NOW. ABSOLUTELY. GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE IF YOU DON'T MIND. THIS ONE HERE. SO WHEN I THINK THIS IS THE SAME SLIDE WE SAW WHEN WE MET AND THE CONCERN OR THE QUESTION I HAD WAS IS THIS ACTUALLY REPRESENTATIVE OF THE TOWN STANDARDS. AND MY QUESTION IS HAS STAFF HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS AND SAY THIS IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF WHAT I KNOW? STAFF DIDN'T REVIEW THIS FOR MEETING THE STANDARDS.

I MEAN, WE DO HAVE A LANDSCAPE BUFFER STANDARD, AS YOU MENTIONED.

SO THIS DOESN'T APPEAR TO SHOW ANY TREES BEING PLANTED NEXT TO THE ROAD THAT THAT WOULDN'T MEET.

THOSE ARE THOSE ARE ALL IN THE DRIFTS AND GROVES JUST LIKE THE CODE REQUESTS.

YEAH. AND AND THIS IS THE COLLECTOR THAT WOULD GO THROUGH.

AND THOSE ARE ON THE 40 FOOT SPACINGS. THIS I MEAN, THIS PICTURE SEEMS PRETTY MANIPULATIVE.

I MEAN, YOU'VE GOT ABOVE GROUND POOLS. YEAH. WHAT'S THAT? RED HOUSES ABOVE GROUND POOLS IN THIS. I JUST I DON'T THINK IT'S REPRESENTATIVE OF WHAT WE WOULD ACTUALLY PICTURE.

THIS IS AN AFTER. SO. I MEAN, IT'S TECHNICALLY CORRECT.

LEXIN IS THERE A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF TREES YOU CAN PLANT? DO WE HAVE THAT? I DON'T THINK THAT'S HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

I THINK IT'S JUST WRITTEN TYPICALLY YOU KNOW, EQUIVALENT TO EVERY 30FT OR SO.

BUT AGAIN, WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS, WE DO STATE THAT THEY SHOULD BE IN DRIFTS AND GROVES.

SO NOT JUST EXACTLY EVERY 30FT SO THAT YOU HAVE KIND OF THOSE VIEW CORRIDORS INTO THE PROPERTY.

SO I GUESS, BRIAN, I'LL JUST BECAUSE I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT FROM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, MY THOUGHT WAS I DIDN'T WANT A TREE EVERY 12FT DOWN THE LINE LIKE IT'S A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. IF YOU WANT TO PLANT LOTS OF TREES IN KIND OF AN IRREGULAR MANNER.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE A FOREST. I MEAN, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

YEAH. SO IF YOU WANT TO PLANT LOTS OF TREES, GO FOR IT.

IN THE AREAS WHERE THE HOUSES WOULD BE FACING BACKS TO THE STREET, I WOULD PROBABLY LOOK FOR EXTRA TREES IN THAT AREA.

AND I WOULD WANT YOU TO COMMIT YOURSELVES IN THE STANDARDS TO A CERTAIN NUMBER, YOU KNOW.

YEAH, NATURAL ORCHARDS TO A STANDARD OF SIZE.

AND I THINK THAT THE STAFF WOULD PROBABLY LOOK AT YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND SAY, IF THIS JUST LOOKS LIKE IT'S A CHESS BOARD, THEN THAT'S PROBABLY NOT UNLESS IT'S AN ORCHARD. WHICH DIFFERENT STORY ARE GOING FOR IT. YEAH. WELL, AND TO TAG ON TO THAT ORCHARD, LIKE HOW IS THAT GOING TO BE MAINTAINED. SO THE VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO WE HAVE WE'RE WORKING ON OUR OPEN SPACE MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT HASN'T BEEN COMPLETELY COMPLETED YET.

BUT IF WE LOOK AT THIS FROM HOW THIS FUNCTIONS LIKE A GOLF COURSE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE PART OF THE HOA DUES, FEES, ETC., PAY FOR ON SITE FARM HELP AND STAFF.

BUT ALSO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THESE ARE VERY THERE'S NOT A LOT OF MECHANICAL THINGS.

I THINK SOMEONE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT IS THERE A OR LEXIN SAID, HEY, DO WE NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW HEAVY EQUIPMENT RUNNING AROUND AND PICKING THAT UP? THIS IS MORE TO BE, I GUESS YOU'D CALL IT ARTISAN FARMING WHERE PEOPLE CAN ENJOY THOSE TREES.

I'M FROM UP NORTH ORIGINALLY, AND APPLE TREES AND ORCHARDS ARE COMMON PLACE, YOU KNOW, WITH ALL OVER THE PLACE.

NOW, THERE'S ALSO SOME AREAS THAT THERE'S PECAN TREES, AND THEY'RE NOT ALL APPLE TREES.

THEY'RE NOT ALL PEAR TREES. BUT WE JUST WANT TO HAVE THAT ABILITY TO HAVE FRUIT TREES THAT ARE THAT WORK WITH WILDLIFE.

SO I'D BE LOOKING FOR YOU TO DEFINE WHAT AN ORCHARD IS IN YOUR STANDARDS, AND THEN EXPLAIN WHATEVER YOU JUST SAID.

IT SOUNDS GREAT. PUT IT IN AN ENFORCEABLE COMMIT YOURSELF TO SOMETHING ENFORCEABLE AND THEN SAY WHERE THOSE ORCHARDS ARE GOING TO BE.

AND SO THAT WAY WE KNOW FIVE YEARS FROM NOW WHEN ALL THE HOMEOWNERS MOVE IN AND THEY'RE LIKE,

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OKAY, I THINK THAT FEEDBACK IS WONDERFUL. TOTALLY FINE.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND HOW WHAT THE IMPACT OF HAVING AN ORCHARD NEXT TO A POST OAK OR A BLACKJACK OAK.

OH YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD POINT BECAUSE, I MEAN, THOSE TREES ARE PRETTY SENSITIVE TO THE NATURAL. YEAH, THESE ARE IN AREAS THAT I THINK THAT IF WE LOOK AT THAT, THESE ARE AREAS THAT ARE LARGELY OPEN SPACE RIGHT NOW.

OR IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER MR. CUMMINGS DECIDED TO REMOVE SOME TREES.

AND THESE WOULD BE THE ATTEMPT TO REVEGETATE SOME OF THOSE TREES.

I KNOW THAT OUR THAT WAS A VIEW SCREEN FOR THE BROK FAMILY.

AND THOSE TREES UNFORTUNATELY GOT CUT DOWN, WHICH IS VERY SAD.

THAT THAT WAS DEVASTATING BECAUSE THOSE WERE HUGE TREES.

HOWEVER, IT'S IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE PLANNING TO REMOVE 20 SPECIMEN TREES, RIGHT? THE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT PLAN, IT'S VERY I DON'T DO YOU HAVE.

IT'S LESS THAN THAT NOW. YEAH. IT'S ON THE ORDER OF 12 AND WE'RE LIKE I SAY ONE OF THE REASONS WE'RE TRYING TO GET FEEDBACK IS TO SEE IF WE NEED TO MOVE THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT, OR WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO FIRST AND THEN. BUT OTHERWISE, THE ARBORIST ALREADY BEEN OUT THERE, AND WE'RE PREPARING EVERYTHING WE NEED FOR THE IC, FOR THE WHICH ROAD ARE YOU MOVING LIKE ANY OF THE INTERIOR ROADS.

SO IT WOULD BE NOTHING ON THE PERIMETER. SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE NOT REMOVING ANY OF THE PERIMETER TREES? THERE'S A FEW. SO THERE'S YOU'RE NOT REMOVING ANY OF THE PERIMETER TREES, SPECIMEN TREES.

THERE'S JUST A FEW UP HERE THAT WE CAN'T AVOID BECAUSE THE ENGINEERING OF THE ROAD.

SO THERE'S I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 12 RIGHT NOW IN THE CURRENT PLAN, BUT WE'RE ADJUSTING AS WE GO TO TRY AND YOU KNOW, NOT TAKE AS TAKE AS FEW AS POSSIBLE. SO. SO, THE DIFFERENT PLOTS THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ARE THOSE WHAT ARE THOSE COUNTED TOWARDS OR WHAT ARE THOSE CONSIDERED OPEN SPACE OR.

NO, IT'S THERE'S 45% OPEN SPACE WITHOUT THOSE.

YEAH. WHEN YOU ADD THOSE IN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE THESE AREAS LIKE HERE.

SO, WE ENVISION NOW OF COURSE THESE WE HAVE ONE THE, THE EGG LOTS THAT ARE AROUND THE PERIMETER.

SO THESE FOUR HERE IF YOU LOOK AT THIS WEST ENTRANCE, THIS OVER HERE, OVER HERE, THOSE WILL BE LOTS.

THAT WOULD BE THAT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY A STRAWBERRY PATCH OR DO SOMETHING THERE THAT COULD BE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

THE COMMUNITY COULD GO TO BE A BEES IS ONE OF THEM.

WE'RE ACTUALLY IN THE PROCESS OF BRINGING BEES ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

SO WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THAT UP. DID WE LOSE? OKAY.

AND SO THOSE WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING AN ELEMENT OF THOSE WOULD BE COUNTED TOWARD THE OPEN SPACE.

BUT THOSE SPECIFICALLY THOSE FOR THESE ARE THE ONES ALONG HERE WHERE YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY CENTER, THIS HUGE GARDEN AND OPEN SPACE AND AGRICULTURE AREA HERE WHERE WE CAN HAVE NICE PLANTINGS ALONG WITH THE PROPOSED SCHOOL WOULD BE THERE IS BUILDINGS, BUT THAT'S STILL IN AN OPEN SPACE.

THAT IS AS FAR AS AGRICULTURE SPACE. A LOT OF A LOT OF SPACE THAT THAT CAN BE DEDICATED.

SO, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT INCLUDED IN THE CALCULATION THE WAY IT IS.

THANK YOU. YEAH. YEAH. BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS NOT OPEN SPACE. RIGHT. IT'S NOT PART OF THE 45%, THE ENTIRE LOT. RIGHT. THE AGRICULTURAL LOTS ARE NOT.

YEAH. SO, INCLUDED. SO, IF YOU WERE TO SUBTRACT THE BUILDING AND AGAIN WE HAVEN'T WE HAVEN'T SET LIKE WHAT EXACTLY THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING IS.

BUT YOU COULD DO SOME SORT OF CALCULATION OF, OKAY WE GOT 45% OR 45.6%.

AND THEN WHEN YOU HAVE A BUILDING ON THESE LOTS, WHAT IS THE LEFTOVER SPACE? YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET SOME SORT OF CALCULATION. BUT AS LEXIN POINTED OUT, WE'RE IT'S MORE OF A BEEN MORE OF A GO AHEAD.

YEAH. I MEAN, THE PROBLEM IS IF YOU'RE MAKING THAT SEPARATE FROM YOUR CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT, IF THOSE ARE NOT RESIDENTIAL USES, THEN YOU CAN'T THEN SAY, BUT THAT'S PART OF THE OPEN SPACE CALCULATION FOR THE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.

BUT IT IS BUT FOR THIS COMMUNITY. SO, FLOWER MOUND DOESN'T HAVE TO MY KNOWLEDGE, DOESN'T HAVE ANY FUNCTIONAL FARMS LEFT.

THERE'S NOBODY THAT'S PRODUCING A CROP OR FOOD WITHIN THE TOWN.

I COULD BE WRONG. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE.

THERE WAS A PUMPKIN PATCH. DOES THAT STILL, THAT'S TOO EXPENSIVE.

YEAH, THE LAND IS TOO VALUABLE NOW FOR THAT. EXCEPT FOR, I MEAN, ECONOMICALLY.

SO EXCEPT FOR HERE, WHERE WE CAN BRING FARMING BACK.

AND THAT IS ONE OF OUR, OUR REAL MISSIONS AND CALLING OF WHO WHAT, WHAT ARE, WHAT WE ARE AS A FAMILY AND WHO WE ARE AS A PEOPLE IS.

HOW CAN WE TAKE SPACE? THAT WAS IT IS VERY VALUABLE.

BUT HOW CAN YOU ACTUALLY MAKE THAT PART OF A COMMUNITY WHERE YOU DO HAVE FARM AND AGRICULTURE? WE TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING A COUNTRY FEEL AND ATMOSPHERE.

I MOVED OUT HERE BECAUSE I WANT THE COUNTRY AND THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

AND FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO BE PART OF A FARM.

SO WHEN YOU GO AND SAY YOU BUY 5 OR 10 ACRES OR 20 ACRES AND THEN YOU GET INTO ACTUALLY DOING IT, IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND IT'S A LOT OF IT'S A LOT OF EXPENSE.

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IT'S NOT A CHEAP ENDEAVOR. HOWEVER, WHEN WE CAN WORK WITHIN A COMMUNITY TOGETHER, WE CAN HAVE THE BENEFITS OF A FARM.

PEOPLE CAN FEEL LIKE THEY'RE LIVING ON A FARM WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING ALL OF THOSE ELEMENTS.

AND SO THAT'S BEEN OUR HEART TO DO TO BRING THAT BACK.

WE HAVE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM SOME OF Y'ALL.

I DON'T I CAN'T REMEMBER EXACTLY SPECIFICALLY, BUT THERE IS AN ALLOWANCE WITHIN THE TOWN TO HAVE CERTAIN EVENTS THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN ATTEND. SO FARMERS MARKETS, ETC. AND I BELIEVE WE'RE ABLE TO DO IS AT EIGHT PER YEAR.

LEXIN SOMEONE HAD TOLD ME SIX PER YEAR. AND SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ONE AGAIN, BEING A BLESSING TO THE COMMUNITY. WE JUST BEFORE US, WE HAD THE REPUBLIC WASTE HERE FOR GREEN WASTE ON THE SITE AS PART OF ALSO MISSION OF WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE'RE HEAVILY INVOLVED IN IS HAVING A RECYCLING CENTER FOR GREEN WASTE.

SO THAT IS PART OF OUR OF OUR PLAN AND THAT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S NOT FOR EXTERNAL BUT BEING ABLE TO DO. I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

A RECYCLING CENTER, IS THAT AN ALLOWED USE AND WHAT WOULD THAT BE LIKE? LIKE COMPOSTING. OKAY, THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN WHAT I ENVISION WHEN YOU SAY RECYCLING CENTER THAN JUST A COMPOST PILE.

YEAH. GREEN WASTE. AND THERE'S PART IF YOU WATCH THE DOCUMENTARY THE NEED TO GROW.

THAT GOES INTO A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT BEING ABLE TO TURN THINGS INTO. IT'S ALSO FALLS IN PART FOR BIOLOGY.

BIOLOGY LAB AND SCIENCE LAB FOR KIDS IS HOW DO WE ACTUALLY TAKE WOOD WASTE AND HOW CAN WE TURN THAT INTO BIOCHAR AND OTHER THINGS AND USABLE.

SO, CRADLE TO GRAVE. THE OUTPUT OF ONE SHOULD BE THE INPUT OF ANOTHER.

SO ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS JUST TYLER. I MEAN, WE'VE SPOKEN BEFORE, LIKE JUST HAVING SOMETHING LIKE THIS AND MAKING SURE IT'S DEFINED AND THAT IT'S VERY CONCRETE WHAT'S GOING TO BE GOING IN HERE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THIS CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS.

THAT'S NO SECRET. I'VE TOLD I'VE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THIS.

I MEAN, THERE'S GOING TO BE BACKLASH BECAUSE THIS IS A CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

AND SO THERE'S A LOT OF EXCEPTIONS ON THIS. AND I THINK TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT WHERE WE NEED TO JUST SIT DOWN AND SAY THESE EXCEPTIONS NEED TO BE LOOKED AT, AND WE NEED TO CONSIDER WHAT REALLY THIS CONSERVATION DISTRICT IS.

I THINK EVERYBODY'S GOING TO HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON THIS.

SO I THINK WE NEED TO MAYBE GO BACK TO THAT SLIDE THAT LEXIN PUT UP.

MAYOR, DO YOU MIND IF I JUMP IN AND JUST FINISH THE THOUGHT ON THE ZONE? YEAH, FOR SURE, FOR SURE. SO I LIKE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IN TERMS OF A COMPOSTING STATION AS PART OF YOUR AGRICULTURAL.

AND SOME OF THOSE USES MAKE SENSE TO ME AS OPEN SPACE.

BUT WHAT YOU HAVE DEFINED AS YOUR USES ON SLIDE 31 WOULD I WOULD NEVER ACCEPT THAT AS OPEN SPACE BECAUSE THERE'S WAY TOO MANY DIFFERENT USES.

SO THOSE AGRICULTURAL LOTS THAT ALLOW THOSE USES THAT ARE GOING TO STAY AS AGRICULTURAL ZONING, THEY'RE JUST NOT PART OF THIS PROPOSAL. THEY'RE AGRICULTURAL ZONING THAT'S EXCLUDED FROM THIS CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT.

AND IT SHOULD JUST BE DEDUCTED FROM THE CALCULATION ON BOTH SIDES.

AND THEN THAT WAY WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND JUST HAVE THOSE BE DEALT WITH SEPARATELY AS THOSE INDIVIDUAL PROPOSALS COME FORWARD. LEXIN THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WOULD BE THE RIGHT WAY TO HANDLE A POTENTIAL COMMERCIAL USE IN AGRICULTURE, JUST NOT HAVE IT AS PART OF THE CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT.

WELL, YES, THAT IS HOW IT WOULD WORK. I THINK PART OF IT IS IF Y'ALL HAVE FEEDBACK ON SOME OF THESE USES, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TELL THEM NOW BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE KIND OF LIKE JUST SAYING, WELL, WE'LL JUST HAVE THIS LIST OF USES AND SAY WHAT'S EXCLUDED.

BUT AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR CURRENT VERSION OF THE PLAN IS, BUT, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS VERSIONS HAVE SHOWN SOME THINGS THAT I DON'T THINK WOULD BE WE WOULDN'T TYPICALLY ALLOW, JUST AS WE WOULDN'T CONSIDER IT FALLING UNDER THAT LIST OF USES.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL ARE STILL THINKING ABOUT OR IF YOU'RE NOT.

IF YOU ARE, I THINK WE NEED TO DEFINE THOSE THINGS.

I MEAN, EVEN THE COMPOST STATION, I THINK THAT'S FEEDBACK WE GAVE IS OR COMMENTS THAT STAFF GAVE WAS YOU NEED TO DEFINE THIS, WHICH IS KIND OF WHAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM COUNCIL TONIGHT. YOU KNOW, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT SAYS RECYCLING CENTER. WHAT EXACTLY DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT COULD BE INCLUDED WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, IF IT'S SOMETHING REALLY RELATED TO COMPOSTING, THAT'S ALL VERY AGRICULTURALLY RELATED.

WE CAN DEFINE THAT USE AND IT'S PROBABLY FINE, BUT I MY IMPRESSION HAS ALWAYS BEEN FROM COUNCIL THAT THEY PREFER MORE SPECIFICITY AND ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO. AND BUT I COULD BE WRONG ON THAT.

SO, I WANT THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THIS PRESENTATION IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN THE APPLICATION.

IS THAT CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. OKAY.

SO, I MEAN REALLY THE FEEDBACK IS THAT WE JUST NEED THAT CONSISTENCY AND SOLIDIFY WHAT SPECIFICALLY IS GOING IN THERE. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT LIST THAT I DON'T THINK ARE VERY FARMY.

AND I, I WOULDN'T EVEN WANT ON THE LIST. YEAH, I THINK THE WHOLE THING, THE WHOLE MIXED USE OF, OF PUTTING, YOU KNOW, SCHOOLS AND, AND ALL THESE THINGS DOES NOT FEEL LIKE A FARM, A STADIUM A COLLEGE OR

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THERE'S SEWAGE PUMP STATION IS THE BIG PROBLEM ON YOUR ON THIS LIST FOR ME.

AND I MEAN I UNDERSTAND WHY IT'S ON THERE, I REALLY DO.

SO I WOULD PROBABLY WANT TO SEE THAT AS A SPECIAL USE OR JUST DON'T HAVE THAT LOT IN THE CLUSTER PROPOSAL SO THAT IT'S NOT EVEN IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT GETS DEALT WITH DOWN THE ROAD. NO. ONE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

AND SO THE REASON WHY I LIKE SPECIFICALLY COLLEGE UNIVERSITY IS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING AS A SMALL SCHOOL, THIS IS A SCHOOL FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND GOING BACK TO THE KIND OF THE IDEA OF US OF THE SMALL SCHOOLHOUSE OR THE MONTESSORI STYLE SCHOOL IS IT'S FOR THE COMMUNITY.

IT'S SMALL IN NATURE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A HIGH SCHOOL.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS. IF IT WAS GOING TO LOOK LIKE SOMETHING, IT'D BE MORE LIKE THE MONTESSORI SCHOOLS, BUT A LITTLE BIT ELEVATED FROM A QUALITY FROM A ESTHETIC STANDPOINT, AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT FIRST CLASS WHERE YOU HAVE IT LOOKS MORE LIKE AN AGRICULTURE BARN KIND OF FEEL.

AND SO THAT ALSO CUTS DOWN FROM A TRAFFIC STANDPOINT.

SO THIS COMMUNITY, I WOULD SAY THAT WHEN YOU HAVE THE IDEA OF SCHOOL, YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY THAT IS COHESIVE SCHOOL, LIVE, WORK, PLAY, ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THE MORE INSIDE THE COMMUNITY, THE MORE COMMUNITY IT FEELS LIKE.

SO GO AHEAD. DO YOU WANT TO GO? WELL, DO WE WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS LIST? YEAH, PLEASE. I'VE GOT MY OWN. I DON'T HAVE A SPOT TO.

I'M NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU TODAY. RIGHT.

THAT'S OKAY. AND THERE'S MORE PAGES. AND I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SEEING THIS. I MEAN, WE'VE MET A FEW TIMES AND I'VE BEEN CONSISTENT IN MY FEEDBACK TO YOU, WHICH I CAN SHARE WHAT I'VE ALREADY SAID, WHICH I STILL BELIEVE, WHICH IS I'M MISSING THE SCENIC VISTA.

AND I REMEMBER PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME WE MET, I TOLD YOU, I DON'T THINK I EVER THOUGHT THESE WORDS WOULD COME OUT OF MY MOUTH, BUT THAT'S TOO MANY TREES. I DID SAY THAT, REMEMBER? I DID SAY THAT. AND I LOVE TREES. AND I'M ALL ABOUT SAVING THE TREES WHEREVER WE CAN AND PLANTING NEW ONES.

BUT THIS, TO ME, DOES NOT LOOK CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS SUPPOSED TO LOOK LIKE.

WITH THE SCENIC VISTA AND THE IDEA OF RURAL CHARM AND THE WALL ISN'T SOMETHING I'M REALLY GETTING INTO EITHER, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH. AND, YOU KNOW, THE SOUND ABATEMENT, I DON'T YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THAT MUCH FROM THAT.

AND I'M NOT A FAN OF THE BERM THAT CLOSES OFF THE VIEW AGAIN.

SO, IT JUST TOTALLY CHANGES THE LOOK OF THE, THE LAND AND THE WAY I HAVE ALWAYS ENVISIONED.

I SEE THAT YOU CAN PROVE ME WRONG FROM HERE. IT'S GREAT.

I LOVE THAT I'M JUST THOSE ARE JUST THE INSPIRATIONS.

SO, I'M NOT INSPIRED BY THAT EITHER. THAT TO ME IS NOT SCENIC VISTA, BUT THAT'S EXISTING.

BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A NEW DEVELOPMENT. OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE TO PRESERVE OUR VISION THAT WE HAD WHEN WE DEFINED THE STANDARD.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR GENERATIONS TO COME THE FARMING, THE DWARF TREES.

I THINK THAT'S GREAT. BUT WHEN THE DEER, THEY'RE GOING TO EAT EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY CAN REACH IT TOO.

AND THE PECAN TREES, I DON'T KNOW. ARE THERE DWARF PECAN TREES NOW? WE CAN, NO, WE CAN PLANT FULL SIZE PECANS. I MEAN, OKAY, SO THAT CHANGES THINGS A LITTLE BIT TOO.

FOR ME WHAT'S HAPPENING AND I APPRECIATE YOU WANT THE FEEDBACK BEFORE YOU RESUBMIT ANOTHER APPLICATION.

BUT THERE'S THIS VERY NEBULOUS TO ME RIGHT NOW.

SO I WANT A LOT MORE DEFINITIONS. YOU KNOW LIKE WHAT IS A COMPOST PILE? HOW BIG IS THAT AREA GOING TO BE? WHAT OTHER PROBLEMS MIGHT YOU I MEAN, THEY BRING VERMIN.

IT'S NOT ALL WILDLIFE IS REALLY DESIRABLE AND GREAT.

LIKE NOBODY WANTS RATS IN THEIR BACKYARD. SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THAT.

I WANT TO KNOW WHEN YOU'RE PLANTING ALL THESE THOUSANDS, REALLY, THOUSANDS OF TREES.

I WANT TO KNOW HOW MANY. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO IRRIGATE THEM SO THAT THEY TAKE HOLD? I MEAN, THIS IS A TOUGH CLIMATE, AND IT'S HARD TO MAKE THINGS THAT EVEN BELONG HERE GROW SOMETIMES.

SO I YOU KNOW, I TOLD YOU ALSO THAT I THINK THE CONCEPT IS SUPER COOL.

I MEAN, IT'S LIKE A WHOLE ENVIRONMENT. IT'S KIND OF BACK TO THE WAYS THAT WE GREW UP AND THINGS WERE NATURALIZED.

I DIDN'T GROW UP IN AN AGRICULTURAL NEIGHBORHOOD LIKE THIS, BUT FOR ME, IT DOESN'T FIT THIS LAND AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED RIGHT NOW. I THINK THERE COULD BE MODIFICATIONS MADE THAT WOULD BE MORE IN KEEPING WITH WHAT WE ENVISION FOR THE SCENIC VISTA AND FOR A RURAL, YOU KNOW, CHARACTERIZED AS A RURAL DEVELOPMENT OF HOMES WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE.

SO FOR ME, I THERE'S A LOT THAT'S NOT FITTING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW.

I NEED A LOT MORE SPECIFICS. I'M IN THE SAME BOAT.

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I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE BERMS AFFECTING THE SPECIMEN TREES.

AS FAR AS FACING THE BACKYARDS TO THE SCENIC VISTAS FOR SOUND ABATEMENT.

IF YOU TURN THEM AROUND TO THE FRONT, THEN YOUR HOUSE IS BLOCKING THE SOUND FOR YOUR NICE BACKYARD.

IT'S A MUCH BETTER SCREENING THAN, YOU KNOW THAN WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

MY BIGGEST PROBLEM IS FIRST, AS SEVERAL HAVE MENTIONED, IS THERE'S TOO MANY UNKNOWNS ABOUT WHAT YOU WANT TO DO WITH THESE WITH THESE WEIRD MIXED USE AREAS. FOR ME TO FEEL COMFORTABLE. BUT BUT IT'S IT JUST LOOKS SO DENSE.

IT I LOOK AT THIS AND I SEE IT JUST LOOKS VERY DENSE TO ME.

AND IT'S NOT. IT'S NOT IN KEEPING WITH OUR SPECIAL, TREASURED CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION AREA. WE'RE CONSERVING SPECIMEN TREES.

WE'RE CONSERVING OUR NATURAL PRAIRIE. AND IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T FEEL THAT WAY TO ME THAT THAT'S THAT'S MY THAT WAS MY FEEDBACK FROM THE VERY BEGINNING ALSO.

SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VIEW CORRIDORS, WHAT ARE WE WANTING TO SEE? WE'RE LOOKING AT MORE OF A NATURAL LANDSCAPE.

RIGHT. IS IT 200 FOOT SETBACK? LEXIN. SO 200 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH YOU CAN SEE, THOUGH THIS BLOCKS EVERYTHING.

WELL, THE PICTURE MADE IT LOOK LIKE I CAN'T SEE IN.

AND YOU ACTUALLY DID SAY THAT WE WANT TO PUT THIS IN HERE TO WE'RE MORE INTERESTED IN, IN BLOCKING THE OUTSIDE, LOOKING IN AND BLOCKING THE INSIDE LOOKING OUT.

THAT'S WHY YOU WANT SO MANY TREES. AND I THINK STONE DOES QUALIFY AS A TYPE OF MASONRY, DOESN'T IT? SO IT IS MASONRY. YEAH. BUT YOU KNOW, YOU WANT THAT PRIVACY.

AND I REMEMBER YOU WANT PRIVACY TOO FOR OTHER ACTIVITIES THAT YOU TOLD ME ABOUT, REMEMBER? SO, WELL I'M NOT GOING FOR THAT EITHER. FOR EXAMPLE, LIKE IF SOMEONE IS, IF WE, IF WE ACTUALLY FAST FORWARD JUST AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE WHATSOEVER, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE VIEWS AND IF WE DRIVE AROUND THE AREA TO IF YOU DRIVE UP SHILOH, IF YOU DRIVE UP RED ROCK AND YOU GO INTO AREAS WHERE IT'S A LITTLE BIT LARGER LOTS, YOU'LL SEE PEOPLE DOING LIFE AND PEOPLE WILL BE OUTSIDE LAYING BY THEIR POOL, ETC. AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE MY WIFE SHE CAN SPEAK TO.

SHE'S PREGNANT RIGHT NOW, AND SHE'S NOT A BIG FAN OF THE WHOLE WORLD SEEING HER.

THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, OR ME EITHER.

AND SO, THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF PRIVACY AND PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MAINTAIN, I THINK.

I APPRECIATE YOUR FEEDBACK. AND SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIKE THIS SPECIFICALLY HERE, THE REALITY IS, IS THE IS THE REQUEST THAT YOU HAVE THAT SCENIC VISTA GOING IN 200FT OR WHERE IS THAT? IF THERE IS ANY FEEDBACK FOR THAT, I'D LOVE TO HEAR IT. BECAUSE WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? SO, FOR LEXIN MAYBE. YEAH, BUT I'LL JUST PIGGYBACK ON LEXIN I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD, GO AHEAD. I WAS JUST GOING TO ANSWER MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN'S QUESTION.

THE 200 FOOT IS FROM CROSS TIMBERS. THAT'S CONSIDERED THE SCENIC ROADWAY.

THERE'S NOT A THERE'S JUST A 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIRED ON THE COUNTRY ROADS, WHICH ARE RED ROCK AND SHILOH.

SO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT IS REALLY BASED ON, YOU KNOW, THE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL.

BUT THIS ON 1171 IS WHERE THE BIG BLOCK WALL IS GOING TO GO.

AND THE DENSE, DENSE TREES TO BLOCK THE VIEW LOOKING IN AND TO BLOCK THE VIEW LOOKING OUT.

THAT'S NOT A SCENIC VISTA. SO THERE AGAIN, THAT'S A REQUEST TO Y'ALL.

YOU'VE HEARD FEEDBACK FROM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE NEIGHBORS.

AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS MAY HAVE OTHER FEEDBACK FROM OTHER PEOPLE.

I TOTALLY GET THAT. AND YOU GUYS ARE ELECTED FOR, YOU KNOW, SO I HONOR WHAT YOU GUYS ARE DOING.

SO I DON'T MEAN ANY DISRESPECT FOR THAT. WE'RE SIMPLY TRYING TO HAVE A GET SOME FEEDBACK, HAVE A GOOD CONVERSATION AND TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS THE REALITY OF THIS? BECAUSE IF WE HAVE THIS OPEN POND HERE, WE SAY, OKAY, WE WANT A VIEW INTO THE POND, BUT THEN YOU GOT 3 OR 4 HOUSES THERE.

THE REALITY IS YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I GOT I'LL SAY THIS AND I'LL AND IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO SAY IT PUBLICLY, BUT I HAVE A THREE AND A FIVE YEAR OLD BOY. AT CERTAIN TIMES THEY DECIDE THAT THEY DON'T NEED THEIR CLOTHES ANYMORE.

THAT JUST HAPPENS WITH LITTLE KIDS AND THE REALITY.

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I WOULD LIKE AS MUCH PRIVACY AS WE POSSIBLY CAN AROUND THAT.

AND KIDS ARE KIDS. GOD BLESS TYLER. PUT YOUR BACKYARD BUT YOU PUT WAY FROM THE ROAD.

YOU'RE FIXED, IT'S ALL DONE. YOU NEVER HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT, TYLER.

IT'S THE SENSE OF OPENNESS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR. IT'S A RURAL AREA.

WE DON'T WANT MASONRY WALLS. WE DON'T WANT BERMS. WE WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE A SENSE OF OPENNESS. SO IT CONTINUES TO LOOK RURAL, EVEN AS IT DEVELOPS INTO A RESIDENTIAL AREA AT HIGHER DENSITY.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS TO ME IS IF YOU'RE BUILDING IT UP TO BLOCK THE VIEW FROM THE ROAD, THEN THAT'S NOT MEETING THAT STANDARD.

IF YOU'RE PUTTING UP A MASONRY WALL, NOT YOUR ENTRANCE MONUMENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT DISCUSSION IN MY OPINION.

BUT IF YOU'RE PUTTING UP A MASONRY WALL ALONG THE PERIMETER, THAT'S A PROBLEM.

WE UNDERSTAND ALSO THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT EVERYONE DRIVING BY LOOKING IN THEIR BACKYARDS.

THAT'S WHY THE HOUSES ARE SUPPOSED TO BE TURNED AROUND THE OTHER WAY. IT LOOKS IT'S BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. IT'S BETTER FOR THE PEOPLE ON THE ROAD. THAT'S WHY WE HAD THAT STANDARD. IF YOU WANT TO TURN THAT AROUND, THEN YOU'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE YOUR SETBACKS AND ADD PLANTINGS.

AND HONESTLY, I'M NOT NECESSARILY OPPOSED TO OVER PLANTING.

THAT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT GIVES ME A LOT OF HEARTBURN. BUT I AM OPPOSED TO THE BERM AND THE MASONRY WALL.

NOT OTHER THAN YOUR INSURANCE MONUMENT. THE ENTRANCE MONUMENT IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AS FAR AS A QUOTE UNQUOTE, MASONRY WALL OR STONE. IT'S 300FT. RIGHT. THAT'S NOT A TYPICAL ENTRANCE MONUMENT.

FOOTBALL FIELD. WHAT WOULD BE A? FOOTBALL FIELD? WELL, WE HAVE OTHER EXAMPLES OF ENTRANCE MONUMENTS IN TOWN AROUND IN THE CROSS TIMBERS EVEN.

AND THERE'S A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMING. IT'S NOT CROSS TIMBERS, IT'S PRAIRIE TRAIL. BUT WE SUGGESTED SOME CHANGES TO THAT AND THERE WAS SOME FLEXIBILITY.

RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT IT'S A CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT. AND THEY GOT THEY HAD THEY GOT CHALLENGED ON THEIR ENTRANCE MONUMENT TOO, AND THEY CHANGED IT AND THEY CAME UP WITH A MUCH BETTER OUTCOME.

SO JUST GET SOME OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU CAN'T POSSIBLY BE THAT COMMITTED TO THAT MONUMENT, I WOULDN'T THINK.

I MEAN, WE'RE JUST TRYING TO DO SOMETHING EXCEPTIONAL.

BECAUSE BEFORE YOU TAKE IT TO P AND Z, WHICH WILL, THAT'LL BE THE NEXT STEP IS, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO MAKE ALL THESE CHANGES BEFORE YOU GET THERE.

YEP. SO CAN I JUST I'M JUST GOING TO RUN THROUGH A COUPLE OTHER EXCEPTIONS BEFORE I GIVE MY FINAL THOUGHTS, AND I'LL LET YOU GUYS DO THAT. SO HOME OCCUPATION STANDARDS.

LET'S JUST USE WHAT THE TOWN HAS AS THEIRS. OPEN SPACE 45%.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE BIGGER LOTS AND THAT CUTS INTO YOUR OPEN SPACE, IT'S REALLY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF LOTS. NOT IN MY FOR ME, THE ACTUAL CALCULATED PERCENTAGE OF OPEN SPACE.

BUT WE'LL GET BACK. WE'LL GET ON TO THAT LATER.

ADUS ON THE LARGER LOTS. I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT I WOULD CAP THE SIZE OF THE ADU, SAY, 800FT AND OR 800FT². AND I WOULD SAY WE NEED A LOT SIZE COVERAGE MAXIMUM.

SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A HOUSE AND AN ADU AND A DETACHED GARAGE AND A POOL HOUSE, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT THE LOT COVERAGE BECOMES TOO MUCH.

SO JUST WRITE IN LIKE A 25% LOT COVERAGE STANDARD.

THAT'S WHAT WE DID IN THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT.

AND THAT WAS A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER HAS SOME RIGHTS TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS, BUT THEY'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BUILD UP A WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD IN THEIR ONE LOT.

SO THAT'S HOW YOU WOULD SOLVE THAT TO MY SATISFACTION.

AND ONE OTHER, LET ME JUST CHECK ONE MORE NOTE PAGE HERE.

SO, ON THE ORCHARDS, LET'S GET SOME STANDARDS ON WHAT THAT MEANS.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S ALL THE NOTES FOR THE EXCEPTIONS THAT I HAD.

I HAD ANOTHER ONE I THINK WE ALREADY PROBABLY DISCUSSED.

IT WAS THE DOUBLE DIPPING ON THE PARKLAND. IT'S A TRAIL, NOT A PARK.

IT I AGREE, NICE EQUESTRIAN TRAIL, BUT IT'S A TRAIL.

IT'S THAT'S NOT A PARK. THANK YOU FOR THE FEEDBACK.

ONE OF THE POINTS IF I COULD COMMENT ON IS WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THE HOMES BACKING UP OR FACING SIDE YARDS ARE ACCEPTABLE, WHICH ESSENTIALLY IS A BACK YARD.

AND SO IF YOU WERE TO TURN THINGS AROUND AND YOU MAKE IT LOOK SIDE YARDS, SIDE YARDS ARE ACCEPTABLE, RIGHT LEXIN? SO SIDE, YOU KNOW. SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE TOWN LAKE DEVELOPMENT, THAT'S A LOT OF SIDE YARDS THAT GO ALL ALONG THERE.

AND SO I THINK THAT THE INTENTION REALLY IS AGAIN, MORE TREES.

IF YOU GUYS WANT THESE DRIFTS TO SEE IN THERE.

IS IT, I MEAN CAN I ASK FOR CLARITY PURPOSES.

IS THAT THESE VISTAS ALONG CROSS TIMBERS LIKE THE PONDS IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, IS THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE SOME PONDS.

IT APPLIES TO CROSS TIMBERS, NOT THE OTHER STREETS BORDERING YOUR PROPERTY.

AND SO NO, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. SO, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY.

AND THEN WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THAT, WHEN, IF YOU, IF YOU DO A SINGLE LOADED ROADWAY, YOU INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF CONCRETE AND IMPERVIOUS SURFACE DRAMATICALLY. AND SO FROM TALKING WITH WILDLIFE HABITAT AND ALSO IF YOU LOOK AT THIS AT THE PLAN.

WE'VE REALLY SPENT A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORTS TO MAKE THIS PLAN EXCEPTIONAL, WHERE YOU HAVE REALLY WILDLIFE HABITAT AND THAT COUNTRY FEEL IF YOU WERE TO TRIM THIS BACK

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PEOPLE'S BACKYARDS WILL FACE EACH OTHER, JUST LIKE THE CUMMINGS PLAN, WHICH I THINK IS WAS NOT ACCEPTED.

SO I APPRECIATE THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT.

AND MAYOR PRO TEM ADAMS, THANK YOU FOR THAT. ESPECIALLY LIKE WHERE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE SETBACKS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'D HAVE. I APPRECIATE THAT. AND ALONG CROSS TIMBERS, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO IF I CAN JUST REPHRASE BACK TO YOU. ANYBODY ELSE HAVE BRIAN OR ANYBODY? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ON THE EAST SIDE, IT WAS MENTIONED THAT IT DOESN'T LOOK VERY FARMY OR VERY RURAL.

LET'S LOOK AT THE EAST SIDE. YOU KNOW, THE LOTS ARE SMALLER.

WHAT IS THE LOT SIZE ON THE EAST SIDE OF THAT DEVELOPMENT? THERE IS A MIX OF HALF ACRE, THREE QUARTER ACRE AND ONE ACRE LOTS.

THERE'S A BLEND. OF HALF ACRE, THREE QUARTER ACRE AND ONE ACRE? YES, SIR. WHY CAN'T YOU DO THIS WITH THE CURRENT CONSERVATION STANDARDS AND DENSITY? WHY DO YOU NEED TO USE A CLUSTER DENSITY? YEAH.

SO WE FALL UNDER THE CUMMINGS APPLICATION AND THE, WE HAVE THE VESTED RIGHTS OF THAT.

I KNOW, BUT IT DOESN'T IT DOESN'T MATCH ANY OF THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.

A LOT OF THOSE ARE FIVE ACRES. SOME MAY BE AN ACRE, TWO ACRES TO THE SOUTH.

IT JUST SEEMS DENSE. I THINK I'VE EXPRESSED THAT CONCERN IN THE PAST.

WE'VE TAKEN THAT AND WE'VE WE MET WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY BASED UPON THE EXPECTATIONS.

THE LAND COSTS ARE ALSO NOT INEXPENSIVE IN THE AREA.

AND SO IF WE DID THAT, WE WOULD BE AN EXTREME EXCLUSIVE AREA FOR SIZE.

AND SO IF I JUST POINT TO IT, THEY WOULD, IT WOULD MAKE THIS OUT OF REACH FOR MOST YOUNG FAMILIES.

I MEAN, BUT I THOUGHT YOU SAID YOU WANT A MIX OF DIFFERENT KINDS OF AGES OF PEOPLE, TOO, NOT JUST YOUNG FAMILIES.

ABSOLUTELY. SO WHERE IS THAT SENIOR HOUSING AND WHAT'S THE DENSITY THERE? WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT. THAT WAS THAT'S AN IDEA THAT WE FLOATED AROUND.

IT'S NOT IN THE APPLICATION. SO THAT PHASE TWO IS NOT THE SENIOR.

SO THAT'S MORE SENIOR HOUSING ON TOP OF ALL THAT.

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. SO WOULD YOU? IDEA OF THE SENIOR IS NOT ON THE TABLE.

SO WE'VE YOU'VE ABANDONED THAT.

SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT A LATER DATE WE MAY COME BACK.

WE'RE GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK. SO WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO DO NOW IS NOT WHAT YOU REALLY INTEND TO DO WITH THE PROPERTY. NO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT AT ALL. I'M NOT. I'M SPECIFICALLY BEING CLEAR. SO, IT'S NOT DISINGENUOUS.

I'M SAYING THAT WE ASK FOR FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE LIKE, WHAT DO PEOPLE WANT? AND ALSO WHEN WE'RE TALKING TO PEOPLE, PEOPLE SAY, WELL, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE SENIOR SOME SMALLER TO SAY, TAKING 12 ACRES AND EVENTUALLY COMING BACK AND CONVERTING THAT TO A LITTLE BIT HIGHER DENSITY, BUT SMALLER HOMES. SO, YOU ACTUALLY INCREASE YOUR OPEN SPACE AMOUNT BY AS ADAM HAD MENTIONED, THE LOT COVERAGE. AND SO WHEN WE HAVE SMALLER HOMES, THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO THIS IS NOT PART OF OUR APPLICATION. BUT YOU ASKED ABOUT OUR INTENTIONS AND WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

A LOT OF THE FEEDBACK IS I PROBABLY GET AND THE LIST IS NEARING THE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE REACHED OUT REGARDING THE SENIORS, BECAUSE SENIORS IN THE AREA ARE NOT ABLE TO LIVE WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DISTRICT UNLESS THEY'RE INDEPENDENTLY WEALTHY.

BECAUSE THE LOT SIZES. I'M JUST TELLING YOU, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE LOT SIZE PRICE AND YOU LOOK AT ANYTHING IN THE AREA AND YOU CALCULATE A BUILD COST, IT'S SOME IT'S A LOT OF OUT OF REACH FOR PEOPLE.

AND SO WHEN YOU CAN DO A SMALLER HOME, INCLUDING FOR YARD SIZE, AS YOU GET TO BE MORE SENIOR LIKE MY MOM, I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THEM ARE STILL HERE, BUT SOME OF THE PEOPLE.

THIS IS FEEDBACK DRIVEN FROM THE COMMUNITY. AND I THINK THAT'S VALID.

I PROBABLY WILL HIT AN AGE WHERE I DON'T WANT TO DO THAT EITHER, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES AROUND WHERE THAT CAN BE ACHIEVED VERY BEAUTIFULLY.

AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT FITS HERE.

AND I THINK TO SAY THAT YOU'RE STILL KIND OF KNOCKING THAT IDEA AROUND AND YOU COULD CHANGE WHAT'S HERE.

IN FLOWER MOUND, WE'VE BEEN BURNED BEFORE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S YOUR INTENTION, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS COUNCIL IS LOOKING FOR SPECIFICS, BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE FROM HAVING THINGS HAPPEN AGAIN THAT HAPPEN TO THEM BEFORE, AND THEY'RE MAD ABOUT IT. TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR SPECIFICITY. AND ALSO, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY DISINGENUOUS.

BUT IF YOU THINK THAT'S YOUR INTENTION, THEN THAT YOU KNOW IT SHOULD BE DISCUSSED NOW AND NOT PRESENTED AS ONE THING, WHEN YOU MIGHT REALLY BE CHANGING IT TO SOMETHING ELSE.

WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT. I'M ALSO I REALLY LOVE CLARITY MYSELF.

[03:55:01]

THAT'S OKAY. SO, THE ADUS HELPS A LOT. I THINK THAT MAYOR, MAYOR PRO TEM ADAM WAS TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO HAVE ON THOSE LARGER LOTS.

THEY CAN BE FOR A PLACE FOR MOM. THOSE. THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO IF IT'S A PLACE FOR MOM AND SHE'S NOT PAYING RENT, THAT'S ONE THING.

BUT IF IT TURNS INTO A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR, DOES THAT TAKE AWAY THE HOMESTEAD PROPERTY? I MEAN, IF IT'S A COMMERCIAL ENDEAVOR AS AN EDU.

SOMEONE CHARGES RENT FOR IT. IS THAT WHY YOU HAD THE HOME OCCUPATION STANDARDS SECTION? IS THAT WHAT THAT WAS FOR? SO AS LONG AS IT'S A RESIDENCE USED AS A PRIMARY RESIDENCE, THAT'S HOW YOU ACHIEVE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

IF IT'S NOT A PRIMARY. SO YOU HAVE A LOT SAY IT'S A ONE ACRE LOT AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE AN ADU, BUT THEY DECIDE TO MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHICH IT SOUNDED LIKE.

YOU'RE INTERESTED IN THAT PERHAPS. OH, I WANT ON I WANT TO RENT OUT MY ADU ON MY PROPERTY THERE'S NO REPLATING, IT'S ONE PLAT. AND DOES THAT CHANGE TO COMMERCIAL AND THEREFORE THEY LOSE THEIR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? SO, I MEAN, THIS IS A SORT OF A LARGER CONVERSATION.

OBVIOUSLY IT'S NOT, AS YOU RECALL, WITH SHORT TERM RENTALS.

IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL OPERATION. I'M TALKING LONG TERM RENTAL OR EVEN LONG TERM RENTAL. IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL OPERATION SIMPLY BECAUSE YOU GENERATE REVENUE FROM THE RENTAL OF IT.

IT'S USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AND IT'S USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.

IT DOES NOT CONVERT INTO COMMERCIAL. NOW, I HESITATE TO GET INTO WHETHER OR NOT SOMETHING A PARTICULAR SET OF FACTS QUALIFIES FOR A TAX EXEMPTION.

BECAUSE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW. BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS, TOO, THAT WE'VE HAD ON THIS COUNCIL MANY TIMES IS PEOPLE BUYING PROPERTY AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GETTING THEMSELVES INTO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY FOR FUTURE BUYERS, THE SPECIFICITY IS GOING TO HELP THEM TOO.

BECAUSE THE LAST THING I WANT, I PROBABLY THINK THE LAST THING YOU WANT IS FOR SOMEONE TO SAY, THAT'S NOT WHAT I THOUGHT I WAS BUYING. SO I AGREE 100%.

I WAS I WAS SIMPLY MAKING THAT COMMENT ABOUT THE ADUS BECAUSE BECAUSE ADAM HAD SAID ABOUT HAVING LOT SIZE COVERAGE AND HOW YOU WOULD HAVE.

I THINK THAT THAT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HELPS ACHIEVE BEING ABLE TO HAVE MULTI-GENERATION COMMUNITIES.

SO I'M NOT AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE WITH ANYBODY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL STAYING LATE TONIGHT AND STAYING UP PAST MAYBE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE'S BEDTIMES. NO, WE'RE NOT THAT OLD, TYLER.

AND JUST ONE OTHER THING ON THE ON THE LOT SIZES.

I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THE SPECIFICITY, THE SPECIFICS OF THE NUMBERS OF HALF ACRE, THREE QUARTER, ONE ACRE LOTS. AND I DO HAVE CONCERNS ON THE SMALLER LOT SIZES WITH THE SEPTIC.

I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WHEN WE MET. SO I'D BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT'S THAT SOLUTION GOING TO BE? WE SOME OF YOU ALL KNOW MY BACKGROUND. I HAVE I WAS IN THE SEPTIC BUSINESS.

WE HAVE SOME REALLY GREAT SOLUTIONS WITH SOME EXCEPTIONAL PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO PUT FORTH THAT.

I DON'T HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TODAY TO PRESENT, BUT DEFINITELY HAPPY TO SEND THAT OVER TO YOU AND GET SOME MORE SPECIFICS OVER TO YOU.

BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT THE RATIO ISN'T IT, ISN'T IT? AREN'T WE LOOKING AT ABOUT A THIRD, A THIRD, A THIRD? YES. IT'S ACTUALLY ON THERE.

THE NUMBER OF EACH, SIZE UNIT I DON'T KNOW. COULD YOU SEND THE PRESENTATION OUT AFTER THE MEETING TONIGHT? OH, YEAH. OH, YEAH. OF COURSE. YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S. OH, IT'S JUST ON YOUR MONITOR FROM HERE. I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO ZOOM IN. I'M NOT THAT TECHNICAL ON. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO THAT, BUT IT'S ON.

IT'S ON HERE. SO, ONE THIRD, THIRD, THIRD. YEAH, BUT THE AVERAGE LOT SIZE IS 1.6.

THE DENSITY IS 1.6. LEXIN, COULD YOU REMIND ME ABOUT THE MINIMUM SIZE REQUIRED TO BUILD AN ADU LOT SIZE. DON'T WE HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST THREE QUARTERS OR IS IT AN ACRE? IT'S ACTUALLY TWO ACRES IN THE TOWN NORMALLY.

SO AGAIN, THAT THEY'RE PROPOSING TO MODIFY THAT REQUIREMENT INSTEAD OF IT BEING TWO ACRES TO TAKE IT DOWN TO THREE QUARTERS OF AN ACRE.

OKAY. SO OUR STANDARD REQUIRES FOR AN ADU, YOU HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST TWO ACRES.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. SO ONE THING I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET CLEAR IS WHAT'S THE AG AGRICULTURAL STORAGE.

HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE AREA. DRAINAGE FOR AGRICULTURE COULD IMPACT DOWNSTREAM, ESPECIALLY GOING INTO LAKE GRAPEVINE.

WHAT YOU GUYS WILL BE USING TO MITIGATE SOME OF THAT? YEAH. I JUST I NEED TO UNDERSTAND MORE ABOUT THAT.

YEP. AND WHERE DOES IT DRAIN TO IS IT DRAINING? I THINK IT DOES HAVE A CREEK THAT GOES STRAIGHT OUT TO GRAPEVINE, BUT YEAH, THERE IS A MAJOR DRAINAGE POINTS THROUGH HERE AND HERE ON THE EAST AND WEST

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AND SO THAT WOULD BE CATTLE, LIVESTOCK IN THE CENTER.

AND SO AND SO WE DO GO AHEAD. SORRY. IS THERE ADDITIONAL WATER STORAGE TO THERE.

WILL WE WILL THAT'S NOT DRAWN ON THIS HERE. BUT WE'VE CONTEMPLATED LOOKING AT BEING ABLE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL IMPOUNDMENT PONDS HERE WITHIN THIS AREA ALSO FOR LIVESTOCK USE AS WELL. AND THIS ISN'T A LIVESTOCK OPERATION. THIS IS BEING ABLE TO RUN CATTLE THAT ARE FOR THE COMMUNITY HAVING SOME HORSES.

SIMILAR TO ACTUALLY MY NEIGHBOR'S MEG AND SHELDON, WHO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HAVE SOME COMMUNITY HORSES TALKING TO THE EQUESTRIAN FOLKS DOWN THE STREET FROM US, BEING ABLE TO HAVE PROFESSIONALS COME OVER AND DO SOME EDUCATION OR ALSO SOME RIDING LESSONS, WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO WE REALLY ARE JUST AGAIN, BRINGING BACK JUST A SIMPLE COUNTRY COMMUNITY WITHIN, WITHIN THIS CROSS TIMBERS, WHICH I AM HOPEFUL THAT YOU GUYS WILL SEE IS IN THE SPIRIT OF THE TOWN FOR ME, COUNTRY FEEL. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET MUCH MORE COUNTRY THAN A FUNCTIONAL, YOU KNOW, A FARM THAT IS LIKE THIS.

WE'VE WORKED REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. BUT THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK, DREW. THANK YOU. OH, ONE OTHER LAST, LAST NOTE IS YOU'VE GOT A BUNCH OF PICKLEBALL COURTS ON HERE.

LIGHTING FOR PICKLEBALL. WHAT'S THAT? LIGHTING FOR PICKLEBALL? LIGHTING? YEAH. ARE YOU GUYS PLANNING TO ADD LIGHTS? SO WE HAVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DARK STANDARDS.

I THINK YOU CALL IT QUIET NIGHTS. DARK NIGHTS.

DARK SKIES. AND SO THERE WOULD BE SOME, BUT WE WOULD WANT THOSE TO GO DARK AT A CERTAIN TIME.

OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT TRYING TO HAVE. GO AHEAD LEXIN.

NO, SORRY. I JUST I'M ASKING ABOUT THAT REMINDED ME THAT THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS ON YOUR LAST SLIDE THAT I DON'T THINK Y'ALL SPECIFICALLY TALKED ABOUT.

THERE WERE SOME PICKLEBALL COURTS DRAWN ON HERE.

STAFF'S FEEDBACK WAS TO CARVE THOSE OUT OF THE OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IN OTHER DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE CREATED THOSE AMENITY AREAS THAT ARE OR THAT TYPE OF RECREATIONAL, WE'VE CARVED THEM OUT OF THE OPEN SPACE.

SO I THINK THEY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THAT. IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT. OKAY.

NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT RUNNING DOWNSTREAM.

WE ARE WE WILL BE SEEKING TO DEED RESTRICT THE LOTS FROM USE OF ANY, ANY CHEMICAL FERTILIZERS, PESTICIDES OR ETC. SO THIS WILL BE 100% ORGANIC USE ONLY.

ANYTHING ELSE WILL BE STRICTLY PROHIBITED. I WILL IF I DO PUT, IF I AM GOING TO DIE ON A SWORD, IT WILL BE DYING ON THE SWORD OF NO ROUNDUP. SO I AM ABSOLUTELY AGAINST THAT.

SO MAYBE SOME PEOPLE ARE, BUT NOT HERE. I WOULD JUST TELL ANYBODY THAT WOULD SAY, HEY, I WANT TO COME HERE AND SPRAY ROUNDUP.

DON'T GO SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S NOT THIS IS NOT I AGREE.

I WOULD JUST ADD TO THAT THAT IT'S VERY GENUINE.

I ACTUALLY SPENT MONTHS NEGOTIATING WITH COSERV ON THEIR EASEMENT.

THEY HAVE AN EASEMENT THAT GOES UP SHILOH THAT THEY BOUGHT, AND WE RENEGOTIATED THAT EASEMENT SO THAT THEY CANNOT USE PESTICIDES.

AND THEY'RE USUALLY, YOU KNOW, SPRAY IT, WHATEVER AND CUT IT AND WHATEVER.

AND WE RENEGOTIATED THAT WHOLE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEY ACTUALLY, WHEN THEY PUT IT IN PART OF THAT NEGOTIATION, WAS USING NATIVE SPECIES. SO WE GAVE THEM THE, THE SEED MIX.

AND THEY ACTUALLY THEY WEREN'T THAT THRILLED ABOUT IT, BUT THEY DID IT.

SO IT'S GENUINE THAT IT WOULD BE ORGANIC. ALL RIGHT.

SO HERE, SO I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU MY FINAL THOUGHTS. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO FIRST OF ALL, I BUY INTO YOUR VISION COMPLETELY. I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE CHANCE, I BELIEVE THAT YOU'LL DO MOST OF WHAT YOU SAY YOU DO, AND YOU JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE YOU DEFINE THOSE STANDARDS SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THOSE THINGS ARE AND THAT THEY'RE THEY COME THROUGH IN THAT MANNER.

AND I WANT TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON WORKING WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

SOMETIMES WE GET APPLICATIONS THAT ARE VERY CONTENTIOUS.

THE NEIGHBORS COME IN AND HATE IT. YOU DID THE WORK TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT YOUR NEIGHBORS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA, TO BUY IN. I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. NOW.

I MET CHARLIE CUMMINGS ONE TIME, AND IT WAS NOT LONG BEFORE YOU BOUGHT THE PROPERTY, AND I SEE SOME FAMILIAR FACES IN THE CROWD THAT WERE THEY MAY HAVE EVEN BEEN PART OF THAT MEETING. AND HE BANGED HIS HAND ON THE TABLE AND HE SAID, WHAT DO I NEED TO DO TO GET THIS PROJECT APPROVED? AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU NOW THE SAME THING I TOLD HIM.

AND IT COMES BACK TO THAT WHOLE STUDY WE DID.

WE SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS TRYING TO DEFINE WHAT A CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT LOOKS LIKE IN THE CROSS TIMBERS, SO THAT YOU WOULD KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WOULD GET APPROVED IF YOU BROUGHT IT TO US.

AND IT COMES DOWN TO ONE THING TWO ACRES PER RESIDENCE.

IF YOU'RE COMING IN AT TWO ACRES PER RESIDENCE, ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE AND YOU CAN ASK FOR LOTS OF EXCEPTIONS.

AND WE'RE PROBABLY VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING THEM.

IF YOU WANT TO COME IN AT A HIGHER DENSITY THAN THAT 1.6, THAT'S GOING TO BE HARD FOR ME TO VOTE FOR UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES.

BUT YOU SURE BETTER COME IN AND CONFORM TO EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE OFFER.

BECAUSE IF YOU'RE COMING IN WITH A LOT OF OTHER CHANGES, TOO, I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT EVEN MAKING THE DENSITY STANDARD.

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AND THEN WE CAN TALK JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT WORK.

SO THAT'S MY NUMBER ONE FEEDBACK TO YOU. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR, BUT THAT'S THE GUIDANCE WE WERE GIVEN WHEN WE DID A VERY THOROUGH STUDY WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF MEMBERS OF THE TOWN. THE NUMBER ONE THING PEOPLE IN THE CROSS TIMBERS WANTED WAS THAT DEGREE OF DENSITY.

SO THAT'S THE CHALLENGE FOR YOU. I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF FEEDBACK.

I DON'T KNOW, LEXIN ARE YOU GOING TO BE SUMMARIZING THIS FOR HIM? WHO'S GOING TO SUMMARIZE THIS TO GIVE THAT BACK TO HIM? I THINK THE MAIN THING IS THAT THAT'S GOING TO GO TO P AND Z NEXT.

CORRECT. SO WE WANT TO IT WHEN IT'S READY. BUT WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IS THE APPLICATION THAT YOU DO, YOUR PRESENTATION THAT YOU HAVE TO P AND Z WHEN YOU PRESENT IT IS THAT IT MATCHES THE APPLICATION.

WE DON'T WANT ANY DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN THE TWO.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE MATCH AND THAT THERE'S NO QUESTION THAT IT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE APPLICATION AND THEN MAKING ALL THE CHANGES THAT THEY'VE, THEY'VE IDENTIFIED TODAY. SO, I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST REPRESENTING THE CROSS TIMBERS THIS DEVELOPMENT CAN BE VERY GOOD. WE JUST HAVE TO RESPECT THAT. AND MAYOR MAY I JUMP IN? AND I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE TO TALK JUST BRIEFLY ABOUT NEXT STEPS.

YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, AS TYLER AND QUINT HAS MENTIONED, THEY WANTED TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT A FEW OUTSTANDING ITEMS BEFORE THEY DID A FULL RESUBMITTAL. SO THAT'S STEP NUMBER ONE, WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM.

THEN THERE'S STAFF REVIEW THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH JUST WITH ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT.

AND MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE T'S ARE CROSSED AND THE I'S ARE DOTTED.

THERE'S A SECOND COMMUNITY MEETING THAT STILL NEEDS TO OCCUR FOR THIS APPLICATION.

LEXIN MENTIONED THE P AND Z WORK SESSION, AND AT SOME POINT, THE APPLICATION WILL BE COMPLETE ENOUGH THAT THERE'S NO UNKNOWNS OR OUTSTANDING MAJOR OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT THAT CAN GO FORWARD. AND THESE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT HERE AREN'T IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER.

THEY STILL HAVE THE OUTSTANDING PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY NEED TO GET THROUGH.

I KNOW THAT THEY'VE REACHED OUT TO OUR PARK STAFF TO START TALKING ABOUT THE CONCEPT. THEY'VE OBVIOUSLY GOT SOME FEEDBACK HERE ON THE PARKS CONCEPT FROM COUNCIL.

AND THEN ONCE WE BOLT DOWN EXACTLY WHAT TREE SPECIMEN TREES MAY BE IMPACTED ASSUMING THAT THERE WILL BE SOME FOR REMOVAL.

THAT'S AN ECC RECOMMENDATION. HOW THE PARKS BOARD AND THE ECC INTERTWINED WILL BE DEPENDENT UPON HOW QUICKLY THEY CAN ADDRESS ANY OUTSTANDING COMMENTS ON THE TREE SURVEY.

MAYBE THEY GO TO ECC FIRST BEFORE THEY FINALIZE THEIR DISCUSSION WITH OUR PARK STAFF, BEFORE THEY GO TO THE PARKS BOARD.

ONCE ALL THOSE STEPS ARE COMPLETE, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE'RE USUALLY WRAPPING UP FINAL DETAIL COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION.

AND THEN IT WILL BE FORMALLY SCHEDULED FOR THE P&Z PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE THE YEAH, WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE PUBLIC TRANSPARENCY.

YEAH. YEAH. SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THE FINAL STEPS.

AND AS FAR AS THE SUMMARY GOES, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK WITH THEM ON WHAT WE HEARD.

THIS IS A RECORDED MEETING SO THEY CAN CATCH UP ON ALL THEIR FAVORITE EPISODES WHENEVER THEY WANT TO, AND GO BACK AND WATCH THIS AS MANY TIMES AS THEY NEED.

ALL RIGHT, SO ONE LAST QUESTION FOR ADAM, JUST FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, IF THAT'S OKAY.

YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE TWO ACRE LOT, BUT I BELIEVE THE VESTED RIGHTS ALLOWS FOR 1.6.

AM I? WELL, THERE'S IT'S YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BRING IN AN APPLICATION AT A HIGHER DENSITY AND HAVE NOT REQUIRE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, BUT YOU STILL NEED A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT OR FOUR VOTES FOR CERTAIN OTHER COMPONENTS.

BUT I'M JUST TELLING YOU MY OPINION WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO VOTE FOR.

WE WEREN'T OBLIGATED TO VOTE FOR A CLUSTER PROPOSAL WHEN THE CLUSTER PROPOSAL WAS ON THE BOOKS.

SO IT WAS ALWAYS DISCRETIONARY AND IT STILL IS.

SO FOR ME, AND TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PREVIOUS OWNER WHO HAD THE SAME APPLICATION.

THAT WAS WHAT I TOLD HIM WOULD BE REQUIRED TO GET MY VOTE.

AND THAT'S STILL THE CASE. YEAH. AND SO YOU'RE SAYING NO, NO HALF ACRE LOTS.

NO, I'M NOT AS HUNG UP ON THE LOT SIZES. I THINK THAT'S THE EASY SOLUTION.

BUT IT'S THE DWELLINGS OVERALL DENSITY. IT'S THE DWELLINGS PER ACRE, TWO ACRES PER DWELLING.

THAT'S THE STANDARD IN THE CROSS TIMBERS THAT WE HAVE TODAY.

AND WE WENT THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS OF REDEFINING THE STANDARD SO THAT EVERYONE WOULD KNOW WHAT WOULD GET THEM APPROVED. BUT IT WOULD BE KIND OF STRANGE FOR US TO GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE EXERCISE AND THEN APPROVE A PROJECT THAT DOESN'T CONFORM TO THEM.

AND IT WAS IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT THAT WE APPROVE IT.

SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU THE EXACTLY WHAT YOU NEED TO KNOW SO THAT YOU CAN COME IN AND GET APPROVED.

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SO LIKE FOR SPECIFIC USE, LIKE THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND A SCHOOL.

WELL, I WAS MY THOUGHT WAS IF YOU HAD CERTAIN USES THAT WERE OUTSIDE THE NORM OF A RESIDENTIAL, PROBABLY BETTER NOT TO HAVE THEM AS PART OF YOUR APPLICATION.

JUST HAVE THOSE AS LOTS THAT WILL COME FORWARD IN A FUTURE TIME FOR A DIFFERENT TYPE OF APPROVAL.

IS THAT LEXIN KIND OF WHAT WE WERE GETTING AT IN TERMS OF IF THERE WAS GOING TO BE A NONRESIDENTIAL USE IN ONE OF THOSE AG LOTS? I MEAN, THERE'S DIFFERENT WAYS YOU CAN DO IT.

HE COULD MAKE IT PART OF THIS PD STILL, BUT JUST KEEPING IT SEPARATE FROM THE CLUSTER ANALYSIS.

IT COULD JUST BE THIS. AND THERE'S A TWO ACRE AG LOT.

AND THIS IS GOING TO BE A SCHOOL. AND HERE'S A TWO ACRE AG LOT OR NOT.

HONESTLY FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, IF IT TRULY IS JUST FOR THIS COMMUNITY AND NOT OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW THAT CAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE A MINIMUM ACREAGE SIZE, THAT COULD JUST BE AN X SLOT THAT IS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'VE HAD OTHER DEVELOPMENTS DO THAT AS WELL.

YOU KNOW, YOU JUST IDENTIFY THE AREA WHERE YOU WANT A COMMUNITY CENTER. IT'S SPECIFIC TO YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'S AN HOA AMENITY.

SO IT REALLY DEPENDS ON SOME OF THE USES. WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED? BUT LIKE I SAID, IT CAN BE DONE DIFFERENT WAYS.

WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE MATH ON THE NUMBER OF DWELLINGS PER ACRE, IF IT'S OPEN SPACE, IT COUNTS TOWARDS THAT TOTAL ACREAGE AND HELPS YOU.

IF IT'S NOT OPEN SPACE, THEN IT COUNTS AGAINST THAT TOTAL ACREAGE AND IT HURTS THAT CALCULATION.

SO IF IT'S JUST EXCLUDED, THAT MIGHT BE MORE FAVORABLE TO YOU.

OR IF IT'S OPEN SPACE BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE USED IN FOR SOMETHING THAT WOULD QUALIFY AS OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, A SCHOOL WOULDN'T QUALIFY AS OPEN SPACE, OBVIOUSLY.

THEN IT CAN HELP YOUR CALCULATION AND GET YOU SOME MORE LOTS THAT WAY.

BUT IF IT'S AN OPEN LOT WITH A FUTURE IDEA TO BUILD, THEN SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD THE PERCENTAGE REDUCES SO THAT IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, REALLY COMPLIANT. IN THAT CASE, IT WOULD NOT COUNT AS OPEN SPACE. AND THEN THE CALCULATION WOULD NOT. YOU WOULDN'T GET EXTRA LOTS FOR A NON-OPEN SPACE LOT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A 2 TO 1 RATIO. WE WANT TO KEEP IT AT THAT.

ISN'T IT BETTER TO SAY WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE NOW RATHER THAN YES.

DIDN'T WE ALL AGREE? I WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE NOW.

YES. SPECIFICITY. SPECIFICITY. SPECIFICITY. RIGHT.

SPECIFICS. I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT STRUGGLES WITH THAT WORD. WELL, THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE EXTRA TIME TO GIVE ME CLARITY ON THAT.

I APPRECIATE THAT. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL'S FEEDBACK.

THE ONE THAT WE WILL WE'LL GET BACK WITH STAFF, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE WHERE WE CAN GET.

LEXIN. ARE WE ABLE TO, IF WE'RE SPECIFIC REGARDING THE VIEW CORRIDOR ARE WE ABLE TO ACTUALLY SOCIALIZE THAT WITH COUNCIL BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING VIA EMAIL AND GET ANY FEEDBACK? OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WE SAY, HEY, IS THIS ARE WE GETTING HERE? IS THAT SOMETHING WE CAN DO? IF YOU REACH OUT TO ME, I'LL MEET WITH YOU ANYTIME. YOU CAN MEET ONE ON ONE.

YEAH. OKAY. ALWAYS OPEN. NOT A QUORUM. OKAY. YEAH.

THAT MAKES SENSE. SO, AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING BY ZOOM OR SOMETHING WHERE WE HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH. GOD BLESS YOU ALL.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TIME IS NOW 1034.

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GOD, I CAN'T SEE. OH MY GOD. GOVERNMENT, I'M GETTING OLD.

CHAPTER 551. SECTION 071, 072, 074 AND 057, 087.

GOD, I CAN'T SEE. OH! GOOD EVENING. THE TIME IS NOW 11:49.

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GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUND.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.