Feb 17, 2025 Town Council Archive

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING FLOWER MOUND THE TIME IS NOW 6:00.

WE ARE CALLING THIS MEETING TO ORDER ON THIS DATE, FEBRUARY 17TH.

CHAPLAIN MIKE LILES WILL LEAD US IN OUR INVOCATION.

AND SO GO AHEAD AND STAND, AND WE WILL REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

THANK YOU. FATHER GOD IN HEAVEN, WE APPROACH YOUR THRONE OF GRACE THIS EVENING WITH THANKFUL HEARTS.

THANKFUL THAT WE LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS WE ENJOY AS CITIZENS LIVING IN IT.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS MEETING AND WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS THE TOWN COUNCIL AND TOWN STAFF AS THEY MAKE DECISIONS TO MAKE OUR TOWN EVEN BETTER.

FATHER, WE ASK THAT YOU WOULD BE WITH EVERYONE THAT'S A PART OF THIS MEETING.

AND FATHER, BLESS THEM AND FATHER, BLESS US ALL AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING YOU IN THE DAYS THAT COME AHEAD.

FATHER, HEAR OUR PRAYER. BLESS US AS A TOWN. BLESS US AS A COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE LOVE YOU AND WE ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER AND CARE FOR OUR TOWN.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY, A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO WORSHIP YOU.

FATHER, WE LOVE YOU. AND WE ASK FATHER THAT YOU WOULD REMEMBER EACH OF US SHOULD REMEMBER THAT WITH YOU WE HAVE IT ALL, WITHOUT YOU WE HAVE NOTHING. SO, FATHER, WE CLING TO YOU EVERY DAY OF OUR LIVES BECAUSE YOU ARE THE SOURCE OF OUR STRENGTH, OUR EVERYTHING. AND FOR ALL OF THAT WE THANK.

WE THANK YOU AND BLESS US ALL. WE ASK IT IN JESUS NAME.

AMEN. AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG, I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE, TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.

[D. PRESENTATION(S)]

AND SO MAJOR DWAYNE DURHAM IS GOING TO COME AND PRESENT ON THAT FUNDRAISER.

I'M GOING TO COME ON DOWN THERE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US THIS EVENING. MY NAME IS MAJOR DWAYNE DURHAM I'M CORPS OFFICER OF THE SALVATION ARMY IN LEWISVILLE, TEXAS HERE. AND WITH ME, I HAVE A COLLEAGUE DAVID FESER, AND HE'S WITH OUR CRD DEPARTMENT FOR DENTON AND COLLIN COUNTIES. AND WE'RE GRATEFUL TO BE HERE AND THANK YOU, MAYOR, FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION AS WELL AS OTHER CITY LEADERS IN THE AREA MAYORS, RED KETTLE CHALLENGE THE LEWISVILLE AREA.

AND THE LEADERSHIP YOU PROVIDE HAS INSPIRED OTHER MAYORS AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE MAYORS FROM LOUISVILLE, OF COURSE, T.J.

GILMORE, BARTONVILLE MAYOR JACQUELINE CARRINGTON AND HIGHLAND VILLAGE MAYOR CHARLOTTE WILCOX WERE ALSO INVOLVED.

AND SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR HELPING TO LEAD THE CHARGE WITH THAT.

SO WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE THAT WE'RE PLEASED TO BRING AND PRESENT TO YOU.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE GAVE YOU A LITTLE RED BELL PROBABLY TO RING.

THIS ONE'S A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. YOU COULD YOU COULD DO DAMAGE WITH THAT.

DON'T HATE ME STAFF AND OTHERS THAT IF YOU GO AROUND THE OFFICE RINGING THAT.

BUT ANYWAY, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION, HELPING US TO RAISE MUCH NEEDED FUNDS.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHO ARE SUFFER FROM INSTABILITY IN THEIR IN THEIR LIVES WITH POVERTY AND WITH ADDICTION AND HOMELESSNESS, ALL THESE THINGS THAT YOU HELP US TO TO TRY TO ALLEVIATE.

SO WE'RE HAPPY TO REPORT THIS IS PART OF A REPORT HERE TONIGHT.

ALL EFFORTS COMBINED FOR SUCCESSFUL FUNDRAISING.

NOW, THIS WAS ONE DAY YOU ALL WERE AT HOBBY LOBBY, I THINK.

RIGHT? YEAH. FOR ONE DAY IN DECEMBER AND RAISED $996, NOW, $860.76 OF THAT WAS RIGHT THERE IN PERSON. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THERE WAS ALSO A VIRTUAL KETTLE ONLINE WHERE $135.24 WAS RAISED. SO THAT'S A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGN, I THINK.

AND SO THERE WAS A TOTAL OF ALL FOUR MAYORS IN THE IN THE AREA OF RAISING $9,804.

SO WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL FOR THAT [APPLAUSE]. THANKS.

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SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO HELP SALVATION ARMY HERE.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HELPING NEIGHBORS LIKE COREY.

AND JUST VERY QUICKLY, COREY CAME TO US AND DIDN'T HAVE ANY FRIENDS OR FAMILY TO TO HELP HER.

AND SHE WAS LIVING IN HER CAR, NOT TAKING HER BLOOD PRESSURE MEDICINE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T AFFORD IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST BEING HOMELESS AND DIDN'T HAVE A JOB.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SHOWER. WE HAVE A SHOWER AT OUR PLACE.

WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, FOOD PANTRY, HAVE A LUNCH EVERY DAY.

AND WE HAVE PRESCRIPTIONS, ALL KINDS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE HELPING PEOPLE WITH GAS VOUCHERS.

AND SO WE WERE ABLE TO HELP HER WITH ALL OF THOSE THINGS.

AND SHE WORKED HARD AND SHE KEPT POSITIVE, AND SHE CAME AND GOT THE SERVICES SHE NEEDED FROM US, AND SHE GOT TWO JOB INTERVIEWS. I DON'T THINK THAT'S EVER HAPPENED TO ME.

I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER HAD THAT. BUT SHE TOOK BOTH JOBS BECAUSE THEY WERE PART TIME.

THEY WERE MORNING AND EVENING. AND SO AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GET AN APARTMENT.

AND SO SHE IS STABLE. AND WE'RE SO GRATEFUL BECAUSE EFFORTS LIKE YOURS HELP US TO HELP FOLKS LIKE THAT.

AND SO WE'RE GRATEFUL TO YOU FOR YOUR SHARING IN HOPE AND HELP AS WE SERVE THOSE NEIGHBORS IN NEED.

SO LET ME PRESENT THIS CERTIFICATE, GRATEFUL APPRECIATION FOR HELPING OTHERS THROUGH THE 2024 LEWISVILLE AREA MAYOR'S RED KETTLE CHALLENGE. THANK YOU. WE'LL DO THE BELL HERE AS WELL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I'M SURE MANY OF YOU GAVE DURING THAT SEASON.

SO THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. GOD BLESS [APPLAUSE].

I JUST WANT TO GIVE A BIG SHOUT OUT TO ALL THE STAFF, THE COUNCIL THAT HELPED WITH THAT FUNDRAISER AS WELL.

IT WAS SO MUCH FUN. AND IT DOES, IT GOES SO FAR TO HELP PEOPLE, AND I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE RESIDENTS THAT HAD TO HEAR US SING.

WE DID SOME KARAOKE OUT THERE TO RAISE MONEY.

BUT THAT'S ALL RIGHT. NOBODY KNEW THAT I WAS GOING TO BRING MY MICROPHONES TO TO SING.

OKAY. SO THE NEXT THING THAT WE HAVE ON ON THE AGENDA IS OUR HOMETOWN HERO PROCLAMATION.

SO WE HAVE MATTHEW BOETTCHER HERE. HE'S OUR HOMETOWN HERO RIGHT NOW.

AND SO WE WANT TO ANNOUNCE A PROCLAMATION FOR HIM [APPLAUSE].

HE HAS A LOT OF FAMILY HERE TONIGHT. JUST A COUPLE.

WE'LL HAVE THEM COME UP HERE IN A MINUTE. OKAY.

SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS MATTHEW BOETTCHER GRADUATED FROM MARCUS HIGH SCHOOL IN 2007 AND IMMEDIATELY ENLISTED IN THE US ARMY, AND HE COMPLETED BASIC TRAINING IN FORT LEONARD WOOD AND ADVANCED INDIVIDUAL TRAINING AT GOODFELLOW AIR FORCE BASE.

AND MATTHEW SERVED IN THE 715TH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE BATTALION AT SCHOFIELD SCHOFIELD BARRACKS IN HAWAII. AND HE RECEIVED MANY COMMENDATIONS.

SORRY. HE RECEIVED MANY COMMENDATIONS FROM THE NSA, INCLUDING THE SIGNALS INTELLIGENCE DIRECTORATE REPORTER IS THAT RIGHT? THE DIRECTOR DIRECTORATE REPORTER OF THE QUARTER IN Q4 OF 2009.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, CHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF OUR TOWN COUNCIL AND ALL OUR CITIZENS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE YOU, MATTHEW BOETTCHER, AS A HOMETOWN HERO [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY COME UP HERE.

AND THEN WE DO HAVE THE VETERANS LIAISON BOARD HERE.

GET A FAMILY PICTURE REAL QUICK. SO WE HAVE THE VETERANS LIAISON BOARD HERE, AND THEY'RE GOING TO COME UP HERE AS WELL AND GET A PICTURE WITH YOU.

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SO THIS EVENING, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPEAKING.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]

YOU'LL HEAR A LITTLE SOUND, A BEEP, AND THAT MEANS YOU JUST HAVE 30 MORE SECONDS.

AND WHEN YOU COME FORWARD, JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE. THANK YOU. THE FIRST PERSON IS GOING TO BE STEPHEN WOOD. HELLO.

STEPHEN WOOD 3032 MONET COURT IN FLOWER MOUND.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVANCY AND AND THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT THREATEN IT.

I LIVE A BIT SOUTH OF SUNSET OUT OFF OF SHILOH OUT THERE IN THAT AREA.

I'M AN ORDINARY GUY, HAVE AN ACRE OF LAND, AND I'VE LIVED THERE FOR LONG ENOUGH TO REALLY APPRECIATE THE TREES AND THE WILDLIFE THAT ARE AROUND ME, AS WELL AS THE FEEDER CREEK THAT COMES IN FROM ABOVE ME, FROM THE CROSS TIMBERS AREA.

AND WHAT I'M REALLY HOPING IS THAT THE TOWN IS LOOKING AT THE DRAINAGE SITUATION FROM A POINT, FROM POINT OF VIEW THAT ADDRESSES THE CONSERVANCY OF WHAT WE HAVE ALL OUR TREES, THE WHOLE THING.

AND IN ANY SOLUTION THAT THE CITY WOULD APPROVE I'M HOPING THAT ANN MARTIN, WHAT MAY BE COMING IN FRONT OF YOU IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD ALSO CONSIDER A BROADER APPROACH TO THE OVERALL DRAINAGE SO THAT WE COULD KEEP THE TREES THAT WE HAVE NOW, AND IF NOT, JUST KEEP THEM PLEASE IMPROVE UPON THEIR NUMBERS. THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

RIGHT NOW I'M SEEING A KIND OF A A TILT IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. AND I'VE LOST TREES DUE TO DRAINAGE ISSUES.

I'VE LOST A FENCE, AN EMBANKMENT. IT'S IT'S IT'S KIND OF GETTING A LITTLE SERIOUS.

AND IF YOU IF YOU REALIZE THAT EVERYTHING FLOWS THE WAY IT DOES DOWNHILL TOWARD THE LAKE, YOU SEE THAT THE PROBLEMS ARE FARTHER UPSTREAM, AND YOU HAVE TO TAKE ALL OF IT INTO ACCOUNT.

YOU CAN'T JUST PIECEMEAL IT. YOU'VE GOT TO DEAL WITH IT AS A SYSTEM OF DRAINAGE.

I'M SORRY. NOT JUST A SMALL PORTION OF IT AT A TIME.

YOU CAN'T CARVE OUT A SECTION AND SAY, OH, WE FIXED IT.

IF YOU DON'T THINK ABOUT WHAT'S ABOVE IT AND WHAT'S BELOW IT AND HOW THEY ALL IMPACT EACH OTHER GOING DOWNSTREAM.

AND THAT'S ALL. OKAY. THANK YOU. WE HAVE PHIL DELVECCHIO, AND THEN THE NEXT PERSON.

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HE'S NOT. YOU'RE NOT SPEAKING. I'M SORRY. I YEAH, LUCILLE DELVECCHIO, AND THE NEXT PERSON THAT'S GOING TO BE COMING UP IS NANCY BROCKTON. OKAY. YOU'LL BE NEXT. GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS LUCILLE DELVECCHIO, AND I LIVE AT 7003 WOODRIDGE DRIVE, WHICH IS DIAGONALLY ACROSS FROM THE PROPOSED KNIGHTS LANDING SUBDIVISION ON SUNSET TRAIL. I'M HERE TODAY TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO THE DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT EXIST AND HAVE EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. SEVERAL YEARS AGO, I BROUGHT THIS ISSUE TO THE TOWN ENGINEER, AND THEIR SOLUTION WAS TO DIG A DITCH ALONG SURVEYORS ROAD, WHICH IS NOW SILTED IN AND NO LONGER CONVEYS WATER AS IT WAS INTENDED. I THINK I HAVE A SLIDE.

YOU CAN SEE ON THIS MARKED UP SURVEY ALL THE RED AREA, THIS IS OUR PROPERTY WHICH IS DIAGONALLY ACROSS ALL THE RED AREA IS THE AREA THAT FLOODS AFTER EVERY HEAVY RAIN.

WE WE BROUGHT THIS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE DENTON COUNTY APPRAISAL DISTRICT, AND THEY REDUCED OUR PROPERTY, USABLE PROPERTY TO ONE ACRE FROM 2.14 ACRES. SO THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME.

AND THIS WE HAVE A 51% OF THE LAND IS NOT USABLE ON OF OUR LAND.

AND THIS IS FROM FLOODING AND FAILED STORM WATER DRAINAGE.

AND IT COMES FROM THAT PROPERTY AS WELL, FROM WHAT IS TO BE KNIGHT'S LANDING.

IT CROSSES THE ROAD AND COMES OVER BECAUSE IT DOESN'T IT JUST DRAINS DOWN SURVEYORS LANE.

MY HOME IS CONTINUALLY SURROUNDED DURING AND AFTER HEAVY RAIN AND PONDING ON BOTH THE FRONT AND THE BACK, AS WELL AS ALONG THE ROADSIDE AS YOU CAN SEE.

CAN YOU SHOW THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE? ADVANCE ON THE KEYBOARD RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU AS AS YOU SEE, AS YOU WISH. HERE ARE THE TWO OF THE AREAS AFTER A HEAVY RAIN, AND YOU CAN SEE IN THE FIRST THE MIDDLE PICTURE HOW THE WATER IS CROSSING OVER THE ROAD INTO THE DITCH, THE GULLY THAT GOES ALONG THE ROAD AND THE ROAD AND THE OTHER PICTURE SHOWS YOU THE VELOCITY OF WHAT'S COMING OVER AND ACROSS THE ROAD.

MY HOME IS CONTINUALLY SURROUNDED AND BECAUSE THE PRESENT CONDITION HAS NOT BEEN ADDRESSED, I'M CONCERNED OVER THE IMPACT OF INCREASED STORM WATER FROM CONCRETE PADS, ROADS AND GUTTERS FROM PROPOSED HOMES.

THERE ARE SEVERAL POSSIBLE REMEDIES, WHICH INCLUDE CONVERTING LOT SEVEN TO A HOLDING POND FOR THE INCREASED VOLUME OF WATER FROM KNIGHT'S LANDING.

IS THE TOWN WILLING TO TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY IF APPROVAL IS GIVEN TO THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE DRAINAGE PROBLEM IS NOT SOLVED OR EXACERBATED? SO I ASK THAT YOU PLEASE LOOK INTO CORRECTING THE ENTIRE DRAINAGE SOLUTION IN THIS AREA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, NANCY. AND SCOTT LANGLEY WILL BE NEXT.

IF YOU WANT TO PUT BOTH UP AT THE SAME TIME, I CAN DO THAT.

I DON'T KNOW YOUR NAME. OH, I'M SORRY, I'M NANCY PROCTOR.

AND THEN I WAS ALSO GOING TO SPEAK FOR JEANNIE FERRIER.

I DON'T HAVE I DON'T HAVE THAT. YEAH I DON'T SHE'S NOT HERE.

SO YOU CAN'T, YEAH T HE ONLY WAY YOU CAN DONATE TIME IS IF THEY'RE HERE AND THEY'VE FILLED OUT A FORM TO DONATE TIME.

OKAY. SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE I WOULD HAVE HAD YOU FILL IT OUT FOR HER.

OKAY. MY NAME IS NANCY PROCTOR, AND I LIVE AT 3414 RIDGE CREST DRIVE.

AND ON THE SLIDE UP HERE. GO. OOPSIE. SORRY. WHAT DID I HIT? THIS IS THE ANDERSON PROPERTY AT 3308, WHICH IS TWO DOORS DOWN FROM ME.

HE'S A LARGE ANIMAL VET, AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY HAVE A FOUR RAIL AND IT'S COMPLETELY COVERED THE LOWER RAILING

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IT NOT ONLY RUNS THROUGH THEIR PROPERTY, IT RUNS THROUGH BEFORE THEM IS THE GAMBLES, AND THEN IT'S US.

BEHIND THAT HOUSE IS LORI KIRKENDALL, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN ON THE END IS CHERYL HURST, WHICH I CAN'T SPEAK ON.

AND I WISH I REALLY COULD SHOW YOU THOSE PICTURES BECAUSE THE PICTURES ARE THE WATERS IN HER HOUSE.

IT IT HAS COVERED HER ENTIRE PROPERTY. THERE'S A LITTLE DUCK.

BUT YOU CAN SEE HOW HIGH IT'S GETTING. AND THEN HOW FAR IT GOES TO THE I GUESS LOOKING AT YOUR SCREEN TO YOUR LEFT IS WHERE HIS BARN IS. AND HE SOMETIMES HAS SICK ANIMALS IN THERE THAT HE HAS TO GET TO.

AND WHEN THAT RIVER IS GOING PRETTY QUICK, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS OBVIOUSLY IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL RAINING, BUT IT'S CALMED DOWN. IT IS A VERY QUICK MOVING RIVER AND THEY HAVE TO USE A ROPE TO GET ACROSS IT, BECAUSE IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT THEIR LAND HAS NOW DONE THIS.

SO THERE'S A BIG A BIG V IN THE MIDDLE OF IT.

AND THAT'S HIS SORRY. THAT'S HIS WIFE'S FEET.

SHE WAS JUST SHOWING YOU HOW DEEP ONE AREA WAS.

AND THEN THAT WAS ALL I HAD ON THAT. BUT IT ERODES THE BACK OF OUR PROPERTY SO WE LOSE PROPERTY.

WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THERE'S THAT HOUSE THAT'S ON I BELIEVE IT'S IT'S BEHIND US.

THEY BUILT A HUGE HELP ME. THANK YOU. CULVERT A WHILE BACK.

AND IT'S NEVER FULL WATER. THERE'S NEVER WATER IN IT AT ALL.

AND AND IT'S ENORMOUS. WHAT HAPPENS IS HIS PROPERTY GETS FLOODED WITH WATER THAT COME FROM ALL DIRECTIONS, AND THEN IT FLOODS BEHIND US AND THEN GOES DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE VERY END WHERE IT HITS THE HURST'S HOUSE, AND THEN IT HITS THE CULVERT. THAT KNIGHTS LANDING AND EVERYONE ARE TRYING TO FIX ON BOTH SIDES OF SUNSET.

BUT IF YOU DON'T FIX WHAT'S COMING UP FROM PIER, IT'S JUST GOING TO MAKE THINGS WORSE OR IT'LL FLOOD THEIR PROPERTY WORSE.

AND IF YOU GO TO THAT HAYFIELD, IT'S UP LIKE THIS.

AND NOW THEY ARE GOING TO GRADE IT, OF COURSE.

BUT IT'S IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PIECE OF PROPERTY AND I WISH THEY WOULDN'T TOUCH IT, BUT.

AND WE WANTED THE TREES TO STAY. THANK YOU. NANCY.

OKAY. SCOTT. SCOTT LANGLEY 800 CARTER COURT. AND I HAVE AN ORGANIC STORY FOR YOU I DIDN'T MAKE THIS UP.

I WAS WALKING TODAY. THE KIDS ARE OUT OF SCHOOL, I THINK, WEREN'T THEY? AND SO I'M WALKING DOWN FLOWER MOUND ROAD, AND I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT TIME IT WAS, BUT A GIRL COMES, YOU KNOW, ONCOMING CRUISING AT ME ON ONE OF THESE, WHAT ARE THEY SKATEBOARDS WITH THE STEERING WHEEL.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE CALLED SCOOTERS OR SOMETHING, BUT SHE'S GOING AT A PRETTY FAST CLIP.

RIGHT. AND BUT SHE WE'RE ABLE TO PASS EACH OTHER WITHOUT EVEN BEING THAT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER.

AND THE REASON WHY IS WE'RE BECAUSE WE'RE ON A MULTI-USE PATH ON FLOWER MOUND ROAD, AND THE REASON THAT WE WERE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO PASS EACH OTHER SAFELY, I WANT THAT TO BE THE SAME IN OTHER PARTS OF THE TOWN, WHERE WE NEED TO FILL GAPS WITH OUR MULTI-USE PATHS.

THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS MADE IN THE PAST, DISCUSSIONS, WHATEVER, AND THERE SEEMS TO BE A PREFERENCE ON ON THESE MULTI-USE PATHS IN PARKS.

BUT I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU, WE HAVE A LOT OF TRIATHLETES, ATHLETES IN GENERAL, PEOPLE THAT JOG, AND THEN WE'VE GOT ALL THESE KIDS THAT ARE ON THESE SKATEBOARDS WITH STEERING WHEELS, WHATEVER THEY'RE CALLED. AND THEY'RE RIDING ALL OVER TOWN, AND I'VE SEEN THEM IN STREETS, AND I'M SEEING THEM ON THE MULTI-USE PATHS, AND WE WANT THEM TO BE ON THE MULTI-USE PATHS.

AND SO WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE, I KNOW IT COSTS US A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WHERE IT'S FEASIBLE AND WHERE WE HAVEN'T HAD A DEVELOPMENT GO IN TO, TO BASICALLY PUT THAT IN FOR US. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO FILL THOSE GAPS AND MAKE THIS A SAFER TOWN FOR US.

I KNOW THAT THIS HAS COME UP BEFORE YOU, MAYBE DISCUSSIONS OR WHATEVER, OR MAYBE BEFORE COUNCIL WHERE SOMEBODY TALKED ABOUT THESE KIDS OUT IN THE STREETS, AND WE WANT THEM ON THESE MULTI-USE PATHS. AND THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT IS TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PLENTY OF THEM AROUND TOWN FOR THEM TO EXERCISE,

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO THIS TOWN. THANK YOU.

NEXT WE HAVE ASHANA AMBEKAR. AND THEN AFTER THAT WE HAVE MEGHANA BARANI.

GOOD EVENING, TOWN COUNCIL. IT'S A PLEASURE TO MEET WITH YOU TODAY. MY NAME IS ASHANA AMBEKAR AND I LIVE AT 3213 MARK TWAIN BOULEVARD.

SO TODAY I WANT TO ADDRESS AN ISSUE AT THE QUAIL RUN IN FLOWER MOUND INTERSECTION.

AND WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A STOPLIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION.

SO WE DID THE TOWN CONDUCTED A TRAFFIC STUDY AT THIS INTERSECTION, AND WE FOUND OUT THAT IT MEETS TWO OF THE NINE WARRANTS.

SO IT MEETS THE FOUR HOUR VEHICLE VOLUME AND THE PEAK HOUR VOLUME.

SO SINCE IT DOES MEET THE WARRANT, WE DO IT DOES QUALIFY FOR A STOPLIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION.

SO THE REASON WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A STOPLIGHT AT THIS INTERSECTION IS BECAUSE WE DO SEE IN THE MORNING THERE IS A HIGH TRAFFIC.

AND WE SEE, AS I AM A SENIOR AT FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL, I CAN SEE THE CHAOS AND ALL THE CHAOS THAT'S HAPPENING, NOT JUST WITH THE PEDESTRIANS, BUT ALSO THE DRIVERS.

AND WE DO BELIEVE THAT IMPLEMENTING A STOPLIGHT WILL HELP ALLEVIATE THE STRESS AND ANXIETY BECAUSE SINCE I AM GOING TO SCHOOL, IT'S BETTER TO HAVE THAT TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICE SO WE CAN ENSURE MORE AND ADDRESS ALL THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS.

SO IN THOSE TRAFFIC STUDIES, WE CAN ALSO SEE THAT IT DOES NOT MEET THE CRASH EXPERIENCE.

BUT THERE HAS BEEN THREE CRASHES IN THE 12 MONTH PERIOD.

BUT WHY SHOULD WE WAIT TO HAVE MORE CRASHES TO MAKE SURE TO IMPLEMENT ANOTHER STOPLIGHT? WE CAN STOP THIS RIGHT NOW AND AVOID THAT ACCIDENT COMPLETELY.

AND BRIEFLY BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING, WE DID TALK TO OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.

AND WE INITIALLY WE THOUGHT OF PUTTING A STOP SIGN, BUT NOW WE THINK THAT HAVING A STOPLIGHT WOULD BE A BETTER IDEA BECAUSE SINCE THE STOP SIGN WOULD ACTUALLY MAKE EVEN CREATE TRAFFIC CONGESTION.

BUT IF WE HAVE A STOPLIGHT, THIS WILL THIS WILL HELP ACTUALLY, LIKE DURING THE PEAK HOUR IN THE MORNINGS, WE COULD HAVE CHANGE THE SETTING TO THE STOPLIGHT SO WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE SAFETY CONCERNS.

AND WE REALLY DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LISTENING TO LISTENING TO ME.

THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE MEGAN BARANI, AND AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LORI KUYKENDALL SPEAK.

IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD, YOU CAN COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT UP HERE.

WE HAVE A COUPLE SEATS, AND AFTER LORI, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE DAVID WENZEL.

THERE'S ALSO A SEAT UP HERE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, TOWN COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS MEGAN [INAUDIBLE] AND I LIVE AT 3901 DASH HILL DRIVE.

I WOULD LIKE TO ADD ON ABOUT THE QUAIL RUN FLOWER MOUND ROAD INTERSECTION.

WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT A SIGNAL TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY FOR CHILDREN AND DRIVERS.

IN THE MORNINGS IT'S VERY CHAOTIC DURING RUSH HOUR WITH TEENS LEAVING TO GO TO HIGH SCHOOL, ADULTS LEAVING FOR WORK AND ALSO CHILDREN LEAVING TO WALK OR BIKE TO LIBERTY ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS INTERSECTION.

AND THEN ALSO IN THE EVENINGS, THERE'S HIGH PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY WITH PEOPLE GOING ON WALKS AND SUCH.

AS WELL AS ON FLOWER MOUND ROAD PEOPLE TEND TO SPEED A LOT SO THERE ARE VERY MANY SPEEDING CONCERNS.

AND BY IMPLEMENTING A SIGNAL, WE WOULD ALSO ALLEVIATE THE STRESS THAT CAUSES.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE STUDY MEETS TWO OF THE WARRANTS ON THE TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT IT ALSO SHOWED THAT THE PEDESTRIAN VOLUME ON SCHOOL CROSSING WAS NOT MET. BUT WE ARGUE THAT A HIGH VOLUME OF CHILDREN STILL USE THIS INTERSECTION TO GET TO SCHOOL.

SO LET'S IMPLEMENT A SIGNAL BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE LORI. [INAUDIBLE] GOOD EVENING, MAYOR MOORE AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. MY NAME IS LORI KIRKENDALL.

OUR FAMILY LIVES AT 3216 RIDGECREST DRIVE. I'M HERE WITH OTHERS FROM OUR NEIGHBORHOOD TO ASK THAT THE COUNCIL PLACE THE WORSENING DRAINAGE PROBLEM AFFECTING OUR PROPERTIES ON THE AGENDA FOR DISCUSSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

A THOROUGH STUDY NEEDS CONDUCTED AND AN EFFECTIVE IMPROVEMENT PLAN DEVELOPED AND IMPLEMENTED AS SOON AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

WE MOVED ON TO OUR TWO ACRE PROPERTY. SEVEN YEARS AGO, IN FEBRUARY 2018, THE SECOND WEEK WE WERE THERE, WE EXPERIENCED FOR THE FIRST TIME WHAT WE CALL THE RIVER, THAT ROUTINELY COMES RUSHING THROUGH OUR BACKYARD FOLLOWING BIG RAINSTORMS. SEVEN MONTHS LATER, THAT RIVER GREW WIDER THAN WE HAD EVER SEEN IT AND EVENTUALLY ROSE UP INTO THE YARD, FLOWED INTO OUR POOL, AND THEN UP INTO THE TWO BACK ROOMS OF OUR HOUSE.

I VIVIDLY REMEMBER THAT NIGHT WATCHING THE WATER RISING TOWARDS THE TWO BACK DOORS, AND THE HELPLESS FEELING OF THAT WATER SPILLING IN ONTO OUR RUGS.

I PANICKED, GRABBED A PLASTIC BAG, AND EMPTIED OUT OUR HOPE CHEST WITH FAMILY HEIRLOOMS, NOT KNOWING HOW HIGH THAT WATER WAS GOING TO RISE.

THANKFULLY, THE RAIN STOPPED SOON AFTER AND THE WATER CAME NO FURTHER, BUT NOT BEFORE DAMAGING OUR FLOORING AND WALLS.

WE LEARNED THEN THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE FLOOD INSURANCE.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE IMAGINED WE WOULD HAVE NEEDED IT AND HAD TO COVER THE REPAIR COSTS OURSELVES.

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IT WAS A TERRIBLE MESS AND TOOK WEEKS AND A LOT OF MONEY TO RECOVER FROM.

SINCE THEN WE KEEP PROTECTIVE FLOOD BARRIER ON HAND LIKE SANDBAGS, BUT THERE ARE SNAKES THAT EXPAND WHEN THEY GET WET.

AND LAST USED THEM THIS PAST JUNE IN 2024 I PROVIDED VIDEOS OF THAT EVENING TO YOU ALL BY EMAIL OVER THE WEEKEND.

THOSE SNAKES PROTECTED OUR TWO BACK DOORS AND THE WATER CAME WITHIN INCHES OF THE POOL AGAIN.

THE RIVER ERODES OUT OUR BACKYARD MORE EACH TIME IT COMES THROUGH, AND I OFTEN STAND OUT IN THE YARD ANTICIPATING HOW HIGH IT MIGHT COME IN EACH STORM.

IT RISES IN A DELAY AFTER THE RAINFALL, AS THE RUNOFF FROM THE YARDS UPSTREAM FROM US, AND THE STREETS AND HOMES WELL BEYOND US SEEM TO ALL END UP FLOWING THROUGH OUR YARD. THERE'S BEEN A QUOTE OF HOW MANY ACRES ARE UP IN THAT HIGHER LAND THAT FLOW THROUGH MY BACKYARD.

I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL HAVE ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED A 2026 PROJECT OF REPLACING THE CULVERT THAT CROSSES SUNSET ROAD, WHICH IS ONE YARD BEYOND OURS. BUT IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THAT PLAN INCLUDES INCREASING THAT CULVERT CAPACITY, WHICH I KNOW IS CRITICALLY NEEDED PART OF THE IMPROVEMENT.

NOR WAS IT CONSIDERED THE COMING IT SEEMS LIKE IT DOESN'T CONSIDER EITHER THE COMING CONSTRUCTION OF THE KNIGHTS LANDING DEVELOPMENT.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING OUR CONCERNS, AND I HOPE YOU ALL CAN TAKE A MORE IN-DEPTH LOOK AND PROVIDE SOLUTIONS SOON.

THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE DAVID WENZEL AND THEN AFTER THAT WE'LL HAVE WENDELL GAMBY.

MY NAME IS DAVID WENZEL. MY MY WIFE, DR. KAYLEE MELMED AND I, WE'VE LIVED ON OUR WE'VE HAD OUR PROPERTY SINCE 2006.

AND OVER THIS TIME PERIOD I'VE SEEN IT CONSTANTLY THE FLOODING PROBLEM GETTING WORSE AND THE BACK EDGE UP OF WATER.

BEFORE COMING TO FLOWER MOUND, I LIVED IN THE HOUSTON AREA, SO I'M VERY FAMILIAR WITH FLOODING.

I'VE SEEN IT FOR ALMOST THE 50 YEARS THAT I LIVED IN HOUSTON.

IT'S THE IT'S THE SAME OLD STORY OVER AND OVER, WHERE YOU HAVE AREAS WHERE THINGS HAVE NEVER FLOODED IN 100 YEARS OR 1,000 YEARS.

A NEW SUBDIVISION IS PROPOSED. THEY HAVE EXPERTS COME IN AND SAY, WE'VE GOT ALL THIS THE WATER IS GOING TO RUN OFF.

IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY PROBLEM. AND GUESS WHAT? PLACES, HOUSES START FLOODING THAT NEVER FLOODED BEFORE.

AND IT GOES OVER AND OVER AND IT GETS WORSE. ONE OF THE CONCERNS I HAVE WITH WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE LANDING HERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE PUT IN OR PROPOSED TO BE PUT IN.

WE'VE ONLY HAD AN ANALYSIS BY AN ENGINEER WHO WAS PAID FOR BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE SUBDIVISION.

YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THIS GUY IS GOING TO GET A GOOD RECOMMENDATION SAYING THE FLOODING IS GOING ON IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

I THINK AT THE VERY LEAST WE SHOULD DO IS HAVE A SECOND OPINION OTHER THAN JUST THIS ONE ENGINEER, DO IT JUST TO SEE WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE IF IT'S LIKE THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS THAT PLACES FLOOD THAT HAVE NEVER FLOODED BEFORE.

I'VE ALSO SEEN WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE TO TRY TO DO TO RELIEVE THE FLOODING ALONG SURVEYOR'S LANE.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, THE CULVERT WAS CRUSHED.

WHERE THERE SOLUTION WAS WAS TO TAKE A JACK AND OPEN IT UP, AND THEY PUT A COLLAR ON THE END AND THEN PROMPTLY FILLED HALF THAT COLLAR UP WITH CEMENT.

SO IT ONLY GETS HALF THE FLOW OF WATER THROUGH THERE.

AND I CALLED THEM AND ASKED THEM WHY THEY DID IT THAT WAY.

AND THEY SAID, WELL, SO THAT IT DOESN'T WATER DOESN'T STAY INSIDE THE CULVERT AND IT MATCHES THE THE STAGNANT FLOW THAT'S BEHIND US.

THE SAME THING IS THERE'S THE SANDERS PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE.

THERE'S NO THERE'S ONLY A BAR DITCH ON MY SIDE OF THE PROPERTY ON THE OTHER SIDE THAT THERE'S IT'S JUST FLAT.

THERE'S NO DITCH AT ALL. AND THE WATER THAT'S GOING TO FLOW OFF OF THE KNIGHT'S LANDING DOWN THAT DITCH, IT'S GOING TO HIT THE SANDERS PROPERTY WHERE THEY HAVE A CULVERT THAT'S LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A CULVERT.

IT'S JUST A ROAD ACROSS THERE THAT ACTS AS A DAM.

SO ALL THIS WATER IS GOING TO BE BACKED UP. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ALL THESE, THESE HOUSES THAT ARE GOING TO BE BUILT WITH SWIMMING POOLS AND SIDEWALKS AND ROOFS, THAT ALL THIS WATER IS JUST GOING TO MAGICALLY FLOW DOWN AND GET INTO THE LAKE AND NOT CAUSE ANY KIND OF BACKUP.

IT'S GOING TO BACK UP IN THERE, AND IT'S GOING TO BACK UP THE PART OF THE FLOW OF WATER THAT'S INSIDE OF ON THE OTHER SIDE OF SUNSET, AND THE OTHER WATER IS GOING TO START BACKING UP BECAUSE IT JUST CAN'T GET THROUGH.

SO IT'S JUST THE SAME PROBLEM THAT I'VE SEEN MANY TIMES IN, IN HOUSTON, WHERE SUBDIVISIONS ARE PROPOSED AND PUT IN AND THERE'S NO THOUGHT THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN IT, IT'S IT'S JUST IT JUST ENDS UP BEING A MESS FOR EVERYBODY.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND WE HAVE WENDELL. IS IT GAMBLE? YEAH. OKAY. I'VE GOT A VIDEO ALSO. GOT IT. AND JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

ALL RIGHT? SO I CAN GET THIS OPEN. ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS WENDELL GAMBLE. I LIVE AT 3406 RIDGECREST, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

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I LIVE NORTH OF MOST OF THEM. IF YOU CAN LOOK AT THIS MAP HERE, I LIVE AT THIS LOT HERE.

AND SO, AS MANY OF MY NEIGHBORS HAVE SPOKEN ALREADY, THE WATER COMES FROM THE TOP PART OF OUR NEIGHBOR NEIGHBORHOOD AND FLOWS DOWN THROUGH HERE AND THROUGH MY NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD, COMES DOWN THROUGH NANCY AND SAM'S YARD, AND THEN COMES THROUGH MY YARD AND KIND OF WIDENS OUT HERE.

BILL ANDERSON, DR. BILL ANDERSON, WHO NANCY SPOKE OF JUST A MINUTE AGO AND SHOWED THE VIDEO OF OF HIS YARD GETS FLOODED PRETTY HEAVILY AND THAT WATER IS COMING THROUGH MY YARD.

I'LL SHOW YOU A VIDEO HERE IN A MINUTE. MAYOR PRO TEM, WE HAD A MEETING JUST A WEEK AGO I GUESS IT WAS.

AND WE TALKED ABOUT A PLAN, THE PLAN WOULD START WITH TALKING WITH YOU ALL ABOUT DOING SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

WE REALIZE THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS OLD. WE DON'T HAVE THE DETENTION PONDS OR RETENTION PONDS IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO SHOW YOU THIS VIDEO.

YOU'LL SEE IT I TOOK IT LAST YEAR. BUT THESE ARE, THIS IS GETTING WORSE.

YOU KNOW, LORI MENTIONED IT FLOODED HER HOUSE.

I THINK THAT'S MULTIPLE TIMES, IT'S FLOODED HER HOUSE, BUT IT'S GETTING WORSE. AND SO WE'RE HOPING THAT YOU GUYS CAN COMMISSION SOME OF THE ENGINEERS IN THE CITY TO HELP US TAKE A LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO FIX IT BEFORE IT GETS EVEN WORSE.

SO, AGAIN, THIS IS MY BACKYARD. AS YOU CAN SEE WE'RE WE'RE NOW PANNING SOUTH.

WE'RE LOOKING EAST. THAT WATER BACK IN MY TREES IS PROBABLY A FOOT AND A HALF, MAYBE TWO FEET DEEP, AND IT'S GOTTEN WORSE. AND THEN HERE THE FENCE, THERE IS MR. ANDERSON'S YARD. AND SO YOU CAN SEE, AS I ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, THAT WATER IS STARTING TO RUSH PRETTY HEAVILY THROUGH THERE.

WE'VE TRIED EVERYTHING TRYING TO BLOCK IT. AND AS YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO BLOCK MOTHER NATURE.

SHE'S GOING TO DO WHAT SHE WANTS TO DO. AND SO THAT WATER COMES THROUGH THERE PRETTY, PRETTY RAPIDLY.

THE KEY, THOUGH, IS THAT IT'S GETTING WORSE. AND SO WE HAVE NO OPTIONS OTHER THAN TO ASK YOU TO HELP US OUT A LITTLE BIT.

SO I THINK HOPEFULLY IF WE CAN START WITH SOME TYPE OF STUDY OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THIS WATER, AND THEN NEXT WITH A STRATEGY TO TRY TO FIX IT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT CARDS? OKAY. IS ANYONE OUT IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT THIS TIME? OKAY. YOU CAN COME FORWARD. JUST MAKE SURE YOU STATE. AND IT HAS TO BE A TOPIC, NOT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH. YEAH YEAH. YOU'LL WAIT UNTIL THE PUBLIC HEARING.

YEAH. OKAY. DOES ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO SPEAK THAT'S NOT ON THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY. YOU CAN COME FORWARD. JUST MAKE SURE YOU STATE YOUR NAME AND AND ADDRESS.

I'M BRET CHANCE I LIVE AT 3709 OLD MILL DRIVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON ABOUT THE EDEN RANCH DEVELOPMENT.

AS TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, YOU ARE FACED WITH LARGE RESPONSIBILITIES TO OVERSEE OUR TOWN'S GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT ALIGNS WITH THE TOWN'S NEEDS AND WANTS, AND EVEN WITH THE EVER WITH THE EVER CHANGING LANDSCAPE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.

ALL THE TOWNS IN NORTH TEXAS ARE FACED WITH SUCH A HIGH RATE OF GROWTH, WITH OVER 400 PEOPLE A DAY CALLING DFW AREA HOME, AND OUT OF THAT, AROUND 100 OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE CALLING DENTON COUNTY HOME PER THE NORTH TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS.

THE FACT THAT WE CANNOT STOP THE RAPID GROWTH, THIS LEAVES THE QUESTION ON HOW DO WE DO THIS IN A SMART, BENEFICIAL WAY THAT KEEPS THE SPECIAL FEEL AND UNIQUENESS OF FLOWER MOUND THAT WE ALL LOVE AND CHOOSE TO KEEP.

I DO BELIEVE THAT EDEN RANCH IS A GREAT DEVELOPMENT TO ADD TO OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT IS KEEPING IN WITH THE SPECIAL FIELD THAT WE ARE ALL WANTING.

THIS WILL ALLOW FOR OUR GROWTH THAT WILL KEEP FLOWER MOUND LOOKING AND FEELING NOT JUST LIKE ANOTHER SUBURB OF DFW.

AFTER LOOKING OVER THE DFW METROPLEX, I DO NOT KNOW OF ANOTHER DEVELOPER THAT WILL HAVE LARGE LOT SIZES, A FARM USE, AND PROMOTE MULTI-GENERATIONAL LIVING.

THIS FALLS IN LINE WITH THE FEEL AND THE LOOK THAT WE ARE ALL CURRENTLY LOOKING FOR AND DESIRING FOR.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, CONSIDERATION AND SAYING YES TO EDEN RANCH.

THANK YOU. OKAY. DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ONE SECOND. ALL RIGHT, SO IN FLOWER MOUND, WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN PUTTING AN EMPHASIS ON PROMOTING AND PRESERVING OUR HISTORY RECENTLY, AND ONE OF THE ARTIFACTS IS OUR HISTORIC GIBSON GRANT LOG CABIN, WHICH IS AT FLOWER MOUND AND QUAIL RUN,

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WE NEED DOCENTS TO HELP EDUCATE THE VISITORS THAT COME AND VISIT THAT LOG CABIN.

SO ANYONE WITH A PASSION FOR PRESERVATION AND LOCAL HISTORY IS ENCOURAGED TO APPLY.

NO PRIOR DOCENT EXPERIENCE IS IS NEEDED, AND YOUR COMMITMENT CAN BE AS LITTLE AS ONE SHIFT EVERY TWO MONTHS.

TRAINING TO BECOME A DOCENT AT THE LOG HOUSE CONSISTS OF AN ORIENTATION SESSION AND A SHADOW SHIFT.

YOU MUST BE 18 YEARS OR OLDER. AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THERE'S A NUMBER YOU CAN CALL (940) 349-2854, OR YOU CAN REACH OUT TO OUR PARKS AND REC STAFF.

PLEASE CONSIDER VOLUNTEERING TO BE A DOCENT AT OUR LOG CABIN.

THANK YOU. OKAY. YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? JUST A REAL QUICK ONE.

I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY WISH MY WIFE A HAPPY ANNIVERSARY.

SO HAPPY ANNIVERSARY, CHRISTINE [APPLAUSE]. ALL RIGHT.

OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO PASS IT OVER TO JAMES FOR THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

I WANT TO START OFF AND TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WE HAD OUR TRI CITY NEIGHBORHOOD SUMMIT THIS PAST WEEKEND, AND THIS IS A PROGRAM WE DO WITH OUR HOA HERE IN TOWN, AND WE COORDINATE WITH COPPELL AS WELL AS LEWISVILLE.

AND IT'S A IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. AND I WORKED IN A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES.

BUT THIS IS THE BIGGEST, MOST ORGANIZED EFFORT LIKE THIS.

AND IT'S VERY SUCCESSFUL. WE HAD 150 ATTENDEES.

AND MAYOR, YOU WERE THERE, YOU KICKED US OFF.

AND I THINK COUNCILWOMAN WARNER, YOU WERE THERE TOO. AND JUST WANT TO SHED LIGHT ON THAT IF YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND YOU'RE INTERESTED AND YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE WHETHER YOU REPRESENT YOUR HOA OR NOT, YOU CAN REACH OUT TO OUR PROPERTY STANDARDS GROUP AND GET MORE INFORMATION ON THAT SUMMIT.

THE OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO GIVE THE PUBLIC A HEADS UP ON IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONTROLLED BURN OVER AT MURRELL PARK THIS COMING THURSDAY THE 20TH, STARTING AT 11 A.M.. SO IF YOU SEE A LOT OF SMOKE OVER BY THE LAKE, DON'T WORRY, THAT'S A CONTROLLED BURN.

OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT IS VERY MUCH IN THE LOOP ON IT. BUT NATURALLY, IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, IF I SEE A LOT OF SMOKE GOING SOMEWHERE, I'M ABOUT TO TEXT THE CHIEF, AND BUT WE'RE ON TOP OF THAT.

SO JUST GIVING YOU A HEADS UP THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO A CONTROLLED BURN BY THE LAKE ON THE 20TH.

AND THE OTHER THING THAT I WANT TO POINT OUT, TOO, IS THAT THIS PAST WEEK, WE DID THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE JOHN ASHFORD JOINT TRAINING FIRE FACILITY. AND IF YOU'VE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN LONG IN GESTATION AND WORKING WITH THE CITY OF HIGHLAND VILLAGE AND LEWISVILLE. IT'S A GREAT FACILITY THAT PROVIDES TRAINING TOWERS OR TRAINING FACILITIES FOR BOTH RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

AND IN LIEU OF LIEU OF A RIBBON CUTTING. WE DID LIKE A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT, A HOSE DOWN OR WHATEVER.

BUT WE HAD WE HAD THE COUNCILS OF ALL THREE CITIES, AND WE HAD THE MAYOR AND OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, AS WELL AS COUNCILWOMAN WARNER THERE. AND THEY GOT TO WORK THE HOSES AND ACTUALLY PUT OUT A FIRE IN THE GARAGE SPACE.

BUT I JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A PROJECT THAT'S BEEN LONG COMING.

WE'VE HAD SOME CHANGE ORDERS, PROBABLY MORE THAN WE WOULD LIKE, BUT WE FINALLY GOT ACROSS THE FINISH LINE.

THIS IS GOING TO BE AN INVALUABLE TOOL FOR ALL THREE MUNICIPALITIES TO TRAIN OUR FIREFIGHTERS TO BE EFFECTIVE WHEN THEY'RE FIGHTING FIRES IN THEIR SPACES.

AND AGAIN, JUST APPRECIATE THIS COUNCIL'S COMMITMENT TO THAT PROJECT AND SEEING IT THROUGH.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A GREAT ASSET FOR US.

AND THE LAST THING, AND CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WE HAVE OUR FEBRUARY EMPLOYEES THAT HIT THEIR SERVICE ANNIVERSARIES.

NOW, THIS MONTH, WE OUR THREE RECIPIENTS DID NOT WANT TO SHOW UP.

I DID WANT TO PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THEM, AND I CAN'T PICK ON THEM LIKE I DID TIFFANY AND FORCE THEM TO COME DOWN LIKE I DID LAST MONTH.

BUT I DO WANT TO RECOGNIZE CHUCK DUNN, OUR FACILITIES MANAGER.

HE HIT HIS 25TH ANNIVERSARY. GEOFFREY GENTRY, WHO IS A LIBRARY ASSISTANT OVER AT OUR LIBRARY, HIT HIS 25 YEARS. AND THEN FINALLY, CHARLES THRASHER METER SERVICES TECH HIT 20 YEARS.

SO AGAIN, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THIS ORGANIZATION WHO MAKE THIS THING GO.

AND I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THOSE EMPLOYEES THAT HIT THOSE MILESTONES.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUBLICLY, PUBLICLY ACKNOWLEDGE THAT GROUP.

SO THOSE ARE MY UPDATES. AND I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY.

NOPE. GREAT. OKAY. NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]

I DO HAVE SOMETHING. AND IT IS PERTAINING TO A NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE TONIGHT.

WE HAD SIX RESIDENTS COME FORWARD TONIGHT TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAINAGE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF RAINTREE, RIDGECREST AND AREA SOUTH, AND I ALSO PARTICIPATED IN A JOINT MEETING ON FRIDAY, JUST THIS PAST FRIDAY, AND IT WAS WITH THE DEVELOPER OF KNIGHT'S LANDING, OUR STAFF, AND ALSO MANY NEIGHBORS, EVEN MORE THAN WE'RE ABLE TO COME TONIGHT.

AND IT WAS A GOOD DISCUSSION. IT WAS VERY GOOD KIND OF STARTING.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE REQUEST OF STAFF TO FURTHER INVESTIGATE WHAT IS THE GENESIS OF THE FLOODING,

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SO WITH THAT MAYOR PRO TEM, OBVIOUSLY STAFF HAS BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. WE WERE AT THE MEETING THIS PAST FRIDAY.

SO WE CAN BE PREPARED TO TO PRESENT THAT. I WOULD SUGGEST AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE AMPLE SPACE ON THE MARCH 20TH WORK SESSION.

SO THAT'S WHERE WE WOULD TARGET TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.

AND THAT WILL GIVE YOU TIME TO DO WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS FAR AS INVESTIGATING/RESEARCHING? YES, MA'AM. IN TALKING TO STAFF, WE FEEL LIKE THAT'S AMPLE TIME FOR US TO BE READY. I WAS WONDERING, TOO, SINCE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT ONE SEGREGATED AREA OF OF DRAINAGE ISSUES.

CAN WE DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPREHENSIVE FOR THAT WHOLE THAT CROSS TIMBERS AREA? BECAUSE WE DON'T REALLY DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT THAT SHOWS REALLY WHAT THE DRAINAGE ISSUES IS IN THAT WHOLE AREA? SOMETHING VERY COMPREHENSIVE SO THAT WE CAN SEE THAT IF ONE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING IN, IS IT GOING TO AFFECT ONE ADJACENCY OR IS IT GOING TO AFFECT MULTIPLE AREAS.

SO THAT WOULD TAKE A LONG TIME. WHAT WE CAN DO IN MARCH 20TH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU PROBABLY GOT AS FAR AS INFORMATION FROM STAFF ON FRIDAY.

A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HOW DRAINAGE WORKS IN THAT AREA, WHAT HAPPENS UPSTREAM, WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU MAKE CHANGES TO THAT CULVERT, AND THEN THE POSSIBILITY OF WHAT COULD BECOME A CAPITAL PROJECT IF COUNCIL WANTS TO FUND A STORMWATER PROJECT.

BUT THAT IS SPECIFIC TO THAT ONE AREA. IN ORDER TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT PROJECT WOULD BE AND THE COST AND WHAT THE SCOPE WOULD BE.

WE WOULD DO A STUDY TO LOOK AT THE DRAINAGE THAT COMES ONTO THAT AREA, AND THEN WHAT WE WOULD DO TO LEAVE IT AND HOW MUCH AREA WE WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO SLOW THOSE FLOWS DOWN WHEN WE ONCE WE PUT THEM INTO LARGE CULVERTS OR BOX CULVERTS THE AREA THAT WE WOULD NEED DOWNSTREAM IN ORDER TO SLOW THAT DOWN SO THAT IT DOESN'T FLOOD DOWNSTREAM. A STUDY CAN DO THAT. SO WHAT WE CAN BRING MARCH 20TH WOULD BE SIMILAR TO FRIDAY WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.

BUT WHAT A RESULT OF THAT WOULD BE IF COUNCIL WANTED TO DIRECT US AT THAT POINT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A STUDY.

OKAY OKAY OKAY. YEAH. SO IT'S A STEP THAT COULD OTHERWISE GO FORWARD SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THAT A LITTLE BIT FURTHER.

CORRECT. WE COULD BRING SOME INFORMATION TO THE MARCH 20TH AND THEN WHAT THAT WOULD DO IS YOU WOULD GIVE US INFORMATION ON HOW MUCH AREA TO STUDY, OR WHETHER YOU WANT US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH LOOKING AT SCOPING AND STUDYING AND WE'RE GOING IN THERE AND WE'RE DOING WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT.

WELL, I HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT APPROVING A ZONING REQUEST IN THAT IMMEDIATE AREA WITHOUT HAVING THAT CONVERSATION FIRST.

SO I'M I KIND OF FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HAVE THIS WORK SESSION VERY QUICKLY, OR WE'RE GOING TO END UP HOLDING UP THIS OTHER DEVELOPMENT.

FORWARD, REGARDLESS OF EXISTING CONDITIONS? YEAH, THE THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT THAT'S IN THE AREA IS CALLED KNIGHTS LANDING.

IT'S NOT A ZONING CHANGE. IT'S A SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN.

SO IT'S ESSENTIALLY A PLAT. SO ASIDE FROM THE REQUESTED EXCEPTIONS WHICH HAVE TO COME TO COUNCIL, NONE OF WHICH INCLUDE ANYTHING REGARDING DRAINAGE.

IF IT MEETS THE TOWN'S MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS, THE TOWN IS OBLIGATED TO APPROVE IT UNDER STATE LAW.

SO, NOTWITHSTANDING THE OUTSIDE AND EXISTING DISCUSSION REGARDING DRAINAGE, THAT PROJECT IS MOVING FORWARD AND EXPECTED TO HIT THE COUNCIL'S AGENDA.

I BELIEVE MARCH 3RD. GREAT. FOR THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I WAS HOPING THAT AT LEAST TWO OF THE OTHERS OF YOU WOULD AGREE WITH ME IN MOVING THIS FORWARD FOR THE AT LEAST INITIAL STUDY.

YES? ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. AGREE. GOOD. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE ANY AGENDA ITEM? ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY. DID YOU ALL WANT TO DO ANYTHING ON THE TRANSPORTATION, MOVE ANYTHING FORWARD FOR TWO RESIDENTS CAME FORWARD ON THE STOPLIGHT. DO YOU GUYS WANT TO SEND ANYTHING OVER TO TRANSPORTATION OR JUST TO LOOK.

I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT AND HEAR. SO, MAYOR, JUST AND TIFFANY, CORRECT ME IF I MISSPEAK OR DON'T DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

SO IN APRIL, THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION WILL ALREADY DO A REVIEW OF ALL THESE TYPES OF, SO THIS IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE SCOPE OF WHAT THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO LOOK LIKE LOOK LIKE IN APRIL. SO THEY WILL THEY'RE GOING TO BE TAKING A LOOK AT THIS ANYWAYS IN THE COMING TO THE APRIL MEETING. GOOD. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO ENSURE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

CAN EVERYONE BE THERE? OKAY. WE HAVE ALL YESES.

ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

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SECOND. OKAY THERESA IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS. THE FIRST ITEM IS K1 WICHITA TRAIL RECONSTRUCTION,

[K.1. Wichita Trail Reconstruction - Consider approval of the purchase of concrete removal and replacement services from F&F Concrete Construction, LLC, for work associated with the Wichita Trail Reconstruction (Cardinal Drive and High Meadow) project, through Town of Flower Mound contract No. 2023-56-A, Concrete and Drainage Improvement Services, in the amount of $2,398,952.76.]

GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MAYOR. MY NAME IS DALE CROWN.

I'M A SENIOR PROJECT ENGINEER WITH THE CAPITAL PROJECTS DIVISION HERE IN PUBLIC WORKS.

AND I'M GOING TO PROVIDE A LITTLE INFORMATION ON PURCHASE OF CONCRETE REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT SERVICES FOR THE WICHITA TRAIL RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT.

SO A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT. THIS PROJECT IS LISTED ON THE APPROVED CIP PLAN FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR.

AND WE'LL BE MAKING USE OF THE TOWN'S CONCRETE DRAINAGE AND IMPROVEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT WITH F&F CONCRETE.

THIS IS A MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION CONTRACT THAT CAN BE USED WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

F&F IS IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE TOWN AND THEY'RE QUALIFIED TO DO THE WORK, AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THE RESOURCES.

THE SCOPE OF WORK INCLUDES REMOVAL AND REPLACEMENT OF CONCRETE ALONG WICHITA TRAIL AND SOME MINOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

OUR PLAN IS TO MATCH THE EXISTING ALIGNMENT AND WIDTH.

IT IS A RURAL COLLECTOR IT WILL STAY THAT WAY.

IT WAS DESIGNED BEFORE. WE'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING ANYTHING.

SO IN THE PROCESS, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO A FULL FLEDGED DESIGN ON THIS, THEREBY SAVING UPWARDS OF $200,000.

SO HERE ARE THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT. WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A FULL RECONSTRUCTION ON THAT PORTION IN YELLOW, ABOUT 550FT SOUTH OF CARDINAL ON THE WEST SIDE, AND ABOUT 250FT EAST OR WEST OF HIGH MEADOW ROAD ON THE EAST SIDE.

AND THEN ON EITHER END, WE'RE LOOKING TO DO PANEL REPLACEMENTS.

CONCRETE IS NOT QUITE AS BAD THERE, BUT WE CERTAINLY HAVE SOME PANELS THAT NEED A REPLACEMENT.

AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE TWIN COVES ENTRANCE WE'RE HAVING SOME ISSUES THERE AND WE'RE LOOKING TO DO SOME WORK.

AND I'LL SHOW YOU SOME PICTURES OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.

ON THE LEFT YOU SEE SOME SPALLING CONCRETE WITH SOME CRACKING IN THE MIDDLE, SOME PANEL SEPARATION RIGHT THERE BY THE BIG CURVE JUST SOUTH OF CARDINAL. AND THEN RIGHT THERE, WHAT YOU'RE REALLY SEEING IS BOTH VERTICAL AND HORIZONTAL SEPARATION.

AND THEN WHAT YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT SIDE YOU PRETTY MUCH SEE THAT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING TO RECONSTRUCT.

SO THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL OUT THERE. I MENTIONED THE TWIN COVES PARK ENTRANCE.

THAT'S A GOOD PICTURE OF THE CRACKING GOING ON RIGHT THERE.

AND THEN I MENTIONED ALSO SOME MINOR DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS.

REALLY, ALL WE'RE DOING WITH THAT IS LOOKING TO REPLACE SOME GREAT INLETS OUT THERE TO LESSEN THE MAINTENANCE BURDEN AND IMPROVE FLOW EFFICIENCY WITH SOME OPEN FACE INLETS. SO THE ESTIMATED COST THAT WE GOT FROM F&F IS JUST UNDER $2.4 MILLION. THIS PRICE IS PER THE CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH THEM.

IF THE PURCHASE IS APPROVED TONIGHT WE'LL LOOK TO START CONSTRUCTION NEXT MONTH ON THE SECTION THAT WE'LL BE DOING FULL RECONSTRUCTION ON.

AND THEN PHASE TWO, WHICH WE'RE CALLING PHASE TWO, WOULD BE THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS ON EITHER END.

PHASE TWO COULD HAPPEN A LITTLE SOONER. IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON ON WHAT KIND OF RESOURCES THEY HAVE AT THE END OF MAY AND BEFORE THE SUMMER, BECAUSE THEY WILL BE PULLING OFF TO DO SOME OTHER WORK AROUND TOWN WHILE SCHOOL IS OUT.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE TIMING OF TWIN COVES PARK WILL BE COORDINATED WITH PARKS.

MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE OFF SEASON AND WE'RE NOT TOO BUSY.

AND WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. DALE, DID WE CONSIDER AN ASPHALT TOP COAT FOR THIS SECTION OF ROAD? NO, SIR. IS THERE ANY REASON WHY? IT'S JUST IT'S A SMALL SECTION ROAD.

IT'S REALLY EXPENSIVE PROJECT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING A LOT ABOUT THAT ASPHALT TOP LAYER AS A WAY TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE MORE LIFESPAN OUT OF THESE ROADS.

WAS THIS JUST NOT SUITABLE? WELL, I WOULDN'T SAY IT WASN'T NECESSARILY SUITABLE.

IF WE HAVE CONCRETE, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S DONE RIGHT NOW. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE GOING TO DO WITH THIS PROJECT, BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WE'RE REALLY HAVING OUT HERE IS A SUBGRADE ISSUE.

I BELIEVE JUST LOOKING AT THE PROJECT WAS BUILT WHEN THE ROAD WAS EXPANDED OR WIDENED YOU KNOW,

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SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY DOING AS PART OF THIS PROJECT IS, IS GETTING UNDERNEATH IT], EXCAVATING SOME OF THE SUBGRADE AND THEN REPLACING IT WITH FLEX BASE OVER TRIAXIAL GEOGRID TO GIVE IT STRUCTURE AND STABILITY.

SO WE'RE REALLY TACKLING THE PROBLEM THAT'S GOING ON UNDERNEATH WITH THIS PROJECT.

AND WITH IT BEING DONE RIGHT WE REALLY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO COME HERE FOR DECADES AND DECADES.

THANKS, DALE. YES, SIR. OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? NO. READY FOR A MOTION? YEAH. WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K 1 AS WRITTEN. SECOND.

OKAY. THERESA IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL ON THAT.

ALL RIGHT. SO LEXIN IS GOING TO PRESENT ON THE NEXT ITEM, SUP 24-0006 SCRIVNER RANCH HELISTOP.

[K.2. SUP24-0006 - Scrivner Ranch Helistop - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance granting Specific Use Permit No. 495 (SUP24-0006 – Scrivner Ranch Helistop) to permit a helistop. The property is generally located south of Cross Timbers Road and west of Belle Drive. (On January 13, 2025, PZ tabled this item to its February 10, 2025, meeting by a vote of 4 to 3.) (PZ recommended denial by a vote of 6 to 0 at its February 10, 2025, meeting.)]

I GUESS. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A HELISTOP.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF WHERE THE HELISTOP IS BEING REQUESTED.

IT'S SOUTH OF CROSS TIMBERS ROAD AND NORTH NORTHWEST OF LAURA LANE.

AND HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW. YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE LITTLE BLUE SQUARE IS, WHERE THE ACTUAL HELISTOP LANDING PAD IS PROPOSED.

THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL WITHIN THE CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT.

AND THE ZONING IS AGRICULTURAL. HERE'S A CONCEPT SITE PLAN JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, BEFORE WE LOOK AT THE PICTURES OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED. AGAIN, THIS IS THE OVERALL PROPERTY.

IT'S 7.74 ACRES. HERE'S WHERE THE HELISTOP IS PROPOSED.

HERE'S 1171 AND HERE'S LAURA LANE. AND THIS IS A ZOOMED IN VIEW.

WHAT'S THAT MEASUREMENT ON THE DISTANCE FROM THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? IT'S APPROXIMATELY 200FT FROM THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL LOT.

THIS IS AN X LOT HERE. AND TO THE NORTH IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO CROSS TIMBERS.

SO NO ONE LIVES THERE. BUT HERE, LOT TWO IS WHERE THE CLOSEST RESIDENTIAL LOT IS.

AND AS STAFF MEASURED IT, IT WAS APPROXIMATELY 200FT AWAY.

AND IT'S ABOUT 125FT FROM CROSS TIMBERS. SO HERE'S SOME PHOTOS.

THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS THIS X LOT PROPERTY.

HERE'S LITTLE JUST A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN LOOKING WEST AGAIN ACROSS THAT EXISTING X LOT.

AND THIS IS THE YOU CAN SEE THROUGH TO THE SUBJECT LOT.

THIS IS ALSO LOOKING WEST JUST SHOWING THAT EXISTING RESIDENTS THAT IS THE CLOSEST ONE THERE TO THE PROPOSED HELISTOP LOCATION.

AND THIS IS LOOKING NORTH FROM LAURA LANE WHERE THEY HAD THE ORANGE FENCING.

THERE IS WHERE THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING A DRIVEWAY.

AND THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE RESIDENCE THAT'S LOCATED THERE TO THE NORTHEAST OFF OF LAURA.

SO AGAIN, HERE IS THAT PROPERTY. AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS.

THE THE ACTUAL LANDING PAD WOULD BE IDENTIFIED BY A TWO FOOT CONCRETE BORDER.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE WHERE THE HOW THE HELICOPTER WOULD KNOW WHERE TO LAND.

JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT KIND OF THE TOWN'S EXISTING REGULATIONS AND HOW THEY RELATE TO HELICOPTERS.

SO HERE IS AND THIS MAY LOOK FAMILIAR TO COUNCIL.

THIS WAS A SLIDE THAT WE USED A WHILE BACK. THERE WERE SOME QUESTIONS THAT COME UP ABOUT HELICOPTERS LANDING.

AND SO THIS IS JUST A REFRESH OF WHAT THOSE DEFINITIONS ARE THAT RELATE TO ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, HELICOPTER AIRCRAFT THAT COULD LAND WITHIN TOWN.

WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, THE DEFINITION IS A HELISTOP, A LANDING PAD FOR OCCASIONAL AND INFREQUENT USE BY ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT, NOT EXCEEDING A GROSS WEIGHT OF 6,000 POUNDS, AND NOT FOR REGULARLY SCHEDULED STOPS AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TOWN.

SO THAT'S THE USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE ON THIS BOTTOM LINE, IT SHOWS YOU WHERE HELISTOPS ARE ALLOWED IN TOWN AND WHICH ZONING DISTRICTS.

AND SO I WANTED TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THIS IS ALL FAMILIAR TO THE COUNCIL, BUT I WASN'T SURE SOME OF THE

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AND SO IT IS ADDRESSED THROUGH OUR EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

AND WE HAVE THE USE DEFINED AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED WHERE IT COULD BE APPROPRIATE.

SO AGAIN, ALL THESE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THE S, THAT MEANS IT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP THERE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING AND GOING TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION FOR RECOMMENDATION. AND ULTIMATELY THE TOWN COUNCIL MAKING A DECISION.

AND WITH AN SUP, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU THINK ARE APPROPRIATE ON IT.

THE COUNCIL DOES. AND SO THE THOUGHT IS WITHIN THESE DISTRICTS, IN THIS CASE, IT'S THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, OFFICE DISTRICT, COMMERCIAL TWO DISTRICT, THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, AND WATER RECREATION DISTRICT.

IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE A HELISTOP THERE.

IT KIND OF DEPENDS ON THE SITUATION, YOU KNOW, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, MAYBE HOW LARGE THIS SITE IS, PROXIMITY TO OTHER USES, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.

AND SO BY MAKING IT AN SUP, IT GIVES THE COUNCIL THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER ALL OF THOSE FACTORS AND DETERMINE WHETHER YOU BELIEVE THIS TO BE AN APPROPRIATE USE AT THE SPECIFIC LOCATION THAT HAS THIS RELATED ZONING, AND TO APPLY ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE NECESSARY IF IT WAS APPROPRIATE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT WORK AT THAT LOCATION. SO THAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN HERE.

SO THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST THAT SUP. IT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

THEY RECOMMENDED DENIAL. AND NOW IT'S COME TO TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE FINAL DECISION ON THIS REQUEST.

SO LEXIN REAL QUICK ON THAT ONE. SURE. SO YOU'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE A HELISTOP IN ORDER TO TAKE OFF AND LAND A HELICOPTER IN THE TOWN? YES. THAT'S CORRECT. THE ONLY THE ONLY PLACE THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT IS THE ON HERE, THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT AND THAT'S THE RIVERWALK ZONING.

WITHIN THE WITHIN THE RIVERWALK ZONING ORDINANCE. IT WAS SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED THAT A HELICOPTER COULD LAND ON THE HOSPITAL PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE REGULATION. BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YES.

IS THERE A HELISTOP ANYWHERE ELSE IN TOWN? AND I THINK YOU MAY HAVE JUST ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

SO YES, THERE IS THE ONE ON THE WITH THE HOSPITAL.

THERE WAS AN SUP THAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED FOR ONE OFF OF SCENIC.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT ONE IS IN ACTIVE USE ANYMORE, BECAUSE IN A PRIOR OR IN A IN A PRIOR PLAT, THEY, THEY KIND OF THEY THROUGH ACTION OF THE PLAT TOOK AWAY THE EASEMENT FOR THE LANDING AREA.

SO I THINK THE CURRENT OWNERS ARE NOT USING IT FOR THAT ANYMORE.

SO IT WOULDN'T BE PERMITTED TO TAKE OFF AND LAND FROM A PARKING LOT OR AN EMPTY FIELD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

NO, SIR. NOW IN THE THE CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AND CAMPUS INDUSTRIAL, THOSE ARE THE ONLY DISTRICTS WHERE IT IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT FOR A HELICOPTER.

BUT AGAIN, I WOULD I WOULD THINK WE WOULD AT LEAST BE AWARE OF THOSE.

IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, BE NOTED ON A SITE PLAN, THAT SORT OF THING. SO YEAH, YOU SHOULDN'T JUST BE LANDING ANYWHERE WITHIN THE TOWN.

EVEN IN CAMPUS COMMERCIAL, YOU WOULD STILL HAVE SOME SORT OF DEFINED HELISTOP.

OKAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. SO NOISE JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT ALSO.

SO NOISE IS NOT DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE ZONING, BUT IN THIS CASE, IN KIND OF REVIEWING THE ASSOCIATED STUDIES, I THINK WE HAD FOUND ONE. AND THE APPLICANT ALSO FOUND ONE.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT DID APPEAR THAT IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT BASED ON WHAT WE FOUND FOR THE A HELICOPTER TO MEET THE TOWN'S NOISE ORDINANCE. SO THERE IS A PROCESS TO GET A VARIANCE TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE REQUESTED. NOW, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO APPROVE THIS HELISTOP.

THEN WE WOULD GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS TO ISSUE THEM THE NOISE VARIANCE.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO APPLY FOR IT. BUT WE WOULD KIND OF TAKE THAT AS AN INDICATION FROM THE COUNCIL THAT, YES, YOU WERE IN SUPPORT OF A NOISE VARIANCE AT THIS LOCATION BY APPROVING THAT THE SUP FOR THE HELISTOP, BECAUSE THAT'S WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW, SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE THERE WOULD BE AN EXPECTED EXCEEDANCE OF NORMAL NOISE LEVELS.

SO WITHIN RESIDENTIAL, THE NORMALLY ALLOWED NOISE DECIBELS IS 52DB FROM 10 P.M.

TO 7 A.M. AND THEN 62 FROM 7 A.M. TO 10 P.M..

NOW WE ALSO THERE'S ALSO SOME, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S SUPER LOUD, BUT FOR JUST A SECOND KIND OF THING.

SO THAT COULD BE OVER IT. BUT THIS THAT'S WHERE IT GOES INTO MORE OF THIS DETAIL DOWN HERE.

YOU SHOULDN'T EVER EXCEED 20DB ABOVE THAT NUMBER, KIND OF NO MATTER WHAT.

SO LIKE I SAID, YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S REAL LOUD FOR 30 SECONDS, BUT THERE'S STILL A CAP TO WHAT IT SHOULD BE.

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AND DO WE DO WE HAVE NUMBERS FOR HELICOPTERS, JUST AVERAGE NUMBERS.

AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE EXACT NUMBERS. BASED ON WHAT WE FOUND FOR ANOTHER STUDY IT PUT IT AT, I THINK IT WAS OVER 80DB, MEASURING AT 400FT AWAY.

SO ASSUMING THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, 200FT FOR THE CLOSEST RESIDENTS, THEN IT WOULD EXCEED THAT.

YEAH. I JUST LOOKED UP 200FT IS 94DB. SO AND IT'S A LOGARITHMIC SCALE.

SO 70-80, IT'S 100 TIMES LOUDER. SO IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.

YES. SO IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO APPROVE THE SUP, THESE WERE THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF RECOMMENDED FOR THE MOST PART, ALTHOUGH I WILL PROVIDE A CLARIFICATION FOR NUMBER TWO.

FOR ONE, HELICOPTERS SHALL ONLY TOUCH DOWN ON OR LIFT OFF FROM THE AREA DESIGNATED AS THE TOUCHDOWN AND LIFT OFF AREA ON THE ATTACHED CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

AND THEN THE TOUCHDOWN AND LIFT OFF AREA SHALL ONLY BE OPERATIONAL BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 7 A.M.

TO 10 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. NOW, THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT REQUESTED.

WE ASKED THEM FOR FOR THE HOURS THAT THEY WANTED TO OPERATE.

THIS IS WHAT WE REQUESTED. STAFF SUGGESTION WAS TO LIMIT IT TO THE SAME QUIET TIME HOURS THAT WE USE FOR CONSTRUCTION, THAT'S WITHIN 500FT OF A RESIDENCE. AND SO THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN 7 TO 7 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND THEN 9 TO 5 ON THE WEEKENDS.

BUT THIS IS WHAT THE APPLICANT WANTED TO REQUEST AS HE SAID THAT AND THE TIMES THE OWNER HAD PREVIOUSLY RIDDEN IN HIS HELICOPTER, IT ABOUT HALF OF THE TIMES IT WAS AFTER 7 P.M..

SO HE WANTED TO REQUEST THIS INSTEAD. HELISTOP LIGHTING SHALL BE LIMITED TO NINE FLUSH GREEN PAD BOUNDARY LIGHTS DESIGNED FOR VISUAL APPROACH.

THESE LIGHTS SHALL BE LOW VOLTAGE, SOLAR DRIVEN LED LIGHTS ACTIVATED BY THE PILOT WHEN NEEDED.

THERE SHALL BE NO OVERNIGHT STORAGE OF HELICOPTERS ON THE HELISTOP.

THERE SHALL BE NO STORAGE OF FUEL OR EQUIPMENT RELATED TO THE HELISTOP.

AND THEN, UPON APPROVAL OF THE SUBJECT SUP, THE PROPERTY OWNER SHALL MAKE AN APPLICATION FOR A PERMIT OF VARIANCE IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION 34-154 OF THE TOWN CODE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT RELATED TO NOISE.

AND SO BESIDES THIS, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT FOLLOWING THE TOWN'S REGULATIONS, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL NOTE THAT THESE ALL HAVE TO DO WITH THE ACTUAL PLANS WITH THE LANDING AREA OF THE HELISTOP. SO I WANTED TO EMPHASIZE THAT TOO.

THAT'S THE PART THAT WE'RE ABLE TO REGULATE. THE TOWN IS NOT WHEN IT'S IN THE AIR.

YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE FLIGHT, THE FLIGHT PATH THAT'S ALL REGULATED BY THE FAA.

SO IT'S JUST THE FACT WHEN IT ACTUALLY WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY LANDING IN TOWN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHEN WE ARE ABLE TO ENFORCE OUR REGULATIONS.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S ANOTHER VIEW OF THAT SITE PLAN.

THIS IS THE CAPTION I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO IF THEY LET'S SAY HYPOTHETICALLY, IF THEY LANDED, TOOK OFF OUTSIDE OF THOSE PARAMETERS, THOSE TIMES, WHAT'S THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THAT.

IS IT IS IT JUST A CITATION FOR THEM? YEAH, IT COULD BE.

IT WOULD DEPEND ON, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY AN AN ESCALATING PROCESS, BUT THE TOWN WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO VERIFY THAT IT WAS OUTSIDE OF THOSE HOURS.

SO THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK ON TOO.

WE HAVE TO HAVE KIND OF EVIDENCE WHEN IT, AS IT GOES TO COURT, BECAUSE IT'S THE COURT SYSTEM THAT WOULD ENFORCE A CITATION.

SO BUT YES, THAT WOULD BE THE PATH IS IF YOU, IF THEY WERE VIOLATING ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE SUP, THEN THE TOWN WOULD INITIALLY WRITE A VIOLATION, AND IF IT HAPPENED AGAIN, WE WOULD WRITE A CITATION.

AND THEN THAT GOES TO THE COURT SYSTEM. AND THERE RIGHT? MINIMAL FEE. WELL, THE COURT SYSTEM IS WHO DESIGNATES THOSE FEES, AND THE STATE IS WHO IS ABLE TO KIND OF PUT A CAP ON THE MAX OF WHAT THE FEES CAN BE. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE BY ANY CHANCE.

WELL, I MEAN, THE MAX THAT A ZONING VIOLATION CAN BE IS $2,000.

THAT'S WITHIN OUR CODE AND THAT'S BY THE STATE.

IS THAT PER OCCURRENCE? YES, I BELIEVE SO. AND LEXIN, DO YOU KNOW IF WE ARE THE ONLY ONES OUR OFFICIAL CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ARE THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY WITNESS AND ATTEST TO AN ILLEGAL LANDING.

OR COULD RESIDENTS NEARBY COLLECT EVIDENCE AND SUBMIT THAT? I BELIEVE THAT IT'S POSSIBLE FOR RESIDENTS TO DO IT.

THEY HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SIGN AN AFFIDAVIT AND THE COURT MAYBE HAS TO VERIFY THEIR INFORMATION.

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YES. SO SO THAT'S FAIRLY ACCURATE. JUST TO GO INTO A LITTLE MORE DETAIL, SO THE RESIDENTS WOULD PRESENT THEIR INFORMATION REGARDING AN ALLEGED VIOLATION TO THE PROSECUTOR. THE PROSECUTOR WOULD THEN EVALUATE WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE CASE.

IF THE CASE IS ACCEPTED, THE PROSECUTOR CAN ASK THE COURT JUDGE TO ISSUE A SUMMONS TO APPEAR AND RESPOND TO THAT CRIMINAL CHARGE.

SO EVIDENCE MIGHT INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE VIDEO WITH AUDIO AND A DATE STAMP TO ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING, ALL THE DUCKS ARE IN A ROW, SO TO SPEAK. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? AND THE DISTANCE FOR THAT FROM THAT HELIPAD IS JUST 125FT FROM THE RESIDENCE.

RIGHT? FROM THE ROAD. 200FT FROM THE RESIDENCE.

OKAY. WHICH IS BASICALLY FROM HERE TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.

THAT'S APPROXIMATELY 200FT. I WILL TAKE YOUR WORD FOR IT.

I MEASURE EVERY DAY. WELL, I DO. I DO MEASUREMENTS ALL DAY, BUT I WOULD GUESS THAT'S ABOUT 200FT.

OKAY. 200FT FROM A RESIDENTIAL BUILDING OR JUST THE PROPERTY LINE? I BELIEVE IT'S FROM THE PROPERTY LINE. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? OKAY. I HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM THE APPLICANT.

IS THE APPLICANT HERE? THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THEN. YEAH. SO.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENT THEN.

SO WE HAVE THERESA DO I NEED TO READ THE NAMES OFF OF ALL OF THESE? OR JUST TELL YOU HOW MANY WE HAVE? TYPICALLY, FOR THOSE THAT INDICATED THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING.

NOT SPEAKING, YOU WOULD JUST SAY I HAVE X NUMBER.

YEAH. OKAY. SO BUT THEY WILL BE RECORDED THEIR NAME AND ADDRESS IN THE MINUTES.

OKAY. YEAH. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 17 INDIVIDUALS WHO DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT, BUT THEY ARE IN OPPOSITION OF THE SCRIVNER RANCH HELISTOP, JUST TO BE NOTED.

THEN, WE HAVE WE DON'T HAVE WE HAVE A FEW PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SPEAK TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH. Y'ALL. I CAN'T DARREN'S MCCAULEY MCCAULEY.

IS THAT RIGHT? I CAN'T. DORAN'S. DAENERYS. OKAY.

WELL, I BOTCHED THAT. DAENERYS MCCAULEY. SO AGAIN, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND JUST STATE YOUR NAME BECAUSE I MESSED IT UP. STATE YOUR NAME AND AND ADDRESS. OH, WAIT.

WAIT UNTIL YOU COME TO THE MICROPHONE. COOL NAME.

BUT. HI, MY NAME IS DAMARIS MCCAULEY. I LIVE AT 3725 RAINTREE DRIVE.

I CURRENTLY HAVE EVIDENCE THAT THE SCRIVNER RANCH APPLICANT IS ALREADY IN VIOLATION OF THE LAW ON MULTIPLE FRONTS.

THERE'S ALREADY VIDEOS POSTED BY OTHER RESIDENTS OF HELICOPTERS TAKING OFF AND LANDING FROM THAT RESIDENCE.

I HAVE SOME OF THAT FOOTAGE. THERE WERE TWO HELICOPTERS OVER MY HOUSE TODAY THAT I TOOK FOOTAGE OF.

ONE OF THEM APPEARED TO BELONG TO MR. SCRIVNER BECAUSE IT MATCHED THE DESCRIPTION OF HIS HELICOPTER.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A FACEBOOK GROUP, IT'S LIKE SAVE CROSS TIMBERS.

AND THERE WAS A PERSON THAT WAS AGAINST THE STOP THAT ACTUALLY POSTED FOOTAGE OF HELICOPTERS ALREADY TAKING OFF AND LANDING FROM THIS RESIDENCE.

SO HE'S ALREADY BREAKING THE LAW. I DON'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD SUPPORT THAT.

NOW, HERE'S WHAT MY WRITTEN CONCERNS WERE. IT SAYS IT SEEMS WE ALREADY HAVE UNDOCUMENTED AIR TRAFFIC WITH FLIGHTS I COULD NOT VERIFY WITH AIRLINERS OR FAA, AND THE FAA IS NON-RESPONSIVE TO NOISE AND SAFETY COMPLAINTS, INCLUDING PRIVACY COMPLAINTS SUCH AS DRONE PHOTOGRAPHY, PHOTOGRAPHY AND FILMING FROM LOW FLYING AIRCRAFT SUCH AS CESSNAS AND HELICOPTERS, WHICH HAVE BEEN HOVERING OVER MY PROPERTY AS MUCH AS SOMETIMES MULTIPLE TIMES DAILY.

THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR ALMOST A YEAR. OKAY, AND I'VE MADE POLICE REPORTS ON THIS AND FBI COMPLAINTS.

ANYWAYS WITH THE SOUND KEEPING UP MEMBERS OF MY HOUSEHOLD AT NIGHT, SCARING PETS AND DISTURBING THE PEACE, I HAVE MADE MULTIPLE FBI AND FLOWER MOUND PD COMPLAINTS WHERE IT ACTUALLY SEEMS THE ACTIVITY WAS NOT ONLY NOT STOPPED, BUT INCREASED IN RETALIATION. AND I WAS GASLIGHTED OVER IT, DESPITE HAVING PICTURES AND FOOTAGE.

AND INDIVIDUALS TRIED TO DISCREDIT ME DESPITE BEING PROVIDED WITH FOOTAGE, PICTURES AND EYEWITNESSES.

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OKAY. THEY COULD NO LONGER DO THIS AFTER 5,000 PLUS OTHER INDIVIDUALS POSTED SIMILAR VIDEOS AND PICTURES.

I MADE LAW ENFORCEMENT COMPLAINTS REGARDING DRONES SPANNING FROM NEW JERSEY TO TEXAS.

THE DRONES AND AIR TRAFFIC ARE NOT BENIGN AND HAVE DAMAGED TREES.

THE GROUND HAS SHAKED AROUND MY RESIDENCE. THERE IS RARELY PEACE AND QUIET.

STRANGE FISSURES AND HOLES THAT I PHOTOGRAPHED, DOCUMENTED AND ACTUALLY HAD TO SUBMIT CLAIMS TO MY HOMEOWNERS INSURANCE ON HAVE FORMED ALL OVER MY PROPERTY. CRACKS HAVE FORMED. THEY CAUSE TINNITUS AND HEADACHES.

OKAY, SO THE BIZARRE AIR TRAFFIC SEEMS CONNECTED.

I DON'T KNOW THIS FOR A FACT, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF WEIRD STUFF GOING ON ON MY STREET.

I LIVE ON RAINTREE I AM BLOCKS AWAY FROM WHERE THIS HELIPAD IS HAPPENING, SO IT SAYS HERE THE BIZARRE AIR TRAFFIC SEEMS CONNECTED TO UNDOCUMENTED UNPERMITTED GAS LINES AND POWER PROJECTS NEAR MY HOME, WHICH IS CONSTANTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, NEAR 5G TOWERS AND NEAR THE FIRE STATION THAT HAVE BEEN EXPLODING AS OFTEN AS MORE THAN ONE TIME A WEEK. THERE'S ALWAYS REPAIR VANS OUT THERE, AND THEN THEY'VE HAD TO REPLACE THEM SO MANY TIMES THERE'S ACTUALLY OLD EXPLODED POSTS TIED TO NEW ONES, AND THEN THERE'S NOW CONCRETE ONES TRYING TO REPLACE THOSE.

SO WHEN WE'RE HAVING ALL THESE ROAD PROJECTS WHERE WE'RE HAVING TO FIX CONCRETE, I HAVE TO WONDER WHY.

THESE GAS LINES HAVE ANTENNAE AND SATELLITE DISHES ON TOP OF THEM.

AND I HAVE TO STOP YOU. YOU'VE REACHED YOUR THREE MINUTES BUT THIS IS ALL SEVERELY CONCERNING, AND I'VE TRIED TO LOOK IT UP ON THE WEBSITE.

THERE'S NOT PERMITS FOR ANY OF THIS ACTIVITY.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE TYLER RADBOURNE.

GOOD EVENING. HELLO. HOW ARE Y'ALL DOING TODAY? GOOD. TYLER RADBOURNE, 7400 CROSS TIMBERS. FLOWER MOUND.

I WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE ADDRESS THING. OKAY.

YEAH. ALL RIGHT. IS IT OKAY LEXIN IF I CAN I PULL UP THAT MAP FOR THE HELIPAD.

IS THAT A WAY? IS IT A WAY TO ACCESS THAT? IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF LEXINS.

AS YOU ALL ARE, SOME OF YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE.

THAT WE OWN THE RANCH RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

THAT WILL BE THE FUTURE EDEN RANCH, HOPEFULLY. AND THIS AREA RIGHT HERE THAT'S NEXT TO THE GRAVEYARD AND THE CHURCH PROPERTY IS WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. AND IN TALKING PROPOSING A PARK AS WELL AS ACCESS TO THE CHURCH AND THE AND THE GRAVEYARD OR THE CEMETERY TO BE ABLE TO USE. SO I'M JUST HERE TALKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL FOR SAFETY AND NOISE.

I THINK SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A SOME SORT OF DISTANCE FROM SCHOOL, AS SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE WE HAVE WE'VE SHARED BEFORE THAT THERE WILL BE PRIVATE SCHOOL ON THE PROPERTY AND OUR CONCERN IS OVER SAFETY.

SO THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU.

OKAY. WE HAVE MARSHA GAVIT, AND THEN AFTER THAT WILL BE FRED VINCENT.

MARSHA GAVIT, 6501 MEADOWCREST LANE, HIDDEN VALLEY ESTATES NEXT TO HILLSIDE AND THIS PROPOSAL.

LOCAL AVIATION EXPERTS IN OUR AREA AND NEIGHBORS IDENTIFIED A LOT OF REAL RISKS AND CONCERNS DURING THE LAST TWO P&Z MEETINGS.

AND THERE'S A REASON WHY THE TOWN ALLOWED BY RIGHT, A HELICOPTER IN AN INDUSTRIAL COMMERCIAL AREA.

AND THE HELICOPTER SITES RECOMMEND PUTTING THEM THERE FOR THAT REASON.

WE HAVE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS, DEVELOPING NEIGHBORHOODS AND POTENTIAL HAZARDS, POWER LINES, POLES, PROXIMITY TO 1171. HELICOPTERS, SPOOK HORSES, SPOOK WILDLIFE, AND THE HORSES COULD THROW A RIDER.

SOUND AND VIBRATION CHANGES WITH DISTANCE AND GO WELL BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE AREA AND W IND CAN CARRY THAT FURTHER.

DOWN WASHED DEBRIS CAN CAUSE A LOT OF DAMAGE.

WE LEARNED FIVE FLIGHT PATHS COULD BE IN ANY DIRECTION AND 200FT OVER HOMES IN THOSE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, AND WE ARE IN UNCONTROLLED AIRSPACE, WHICH IS SOMETIMES BUSY WITH OTHER AIRCRAFT.

HELIPADS ARE AN EASY FIRST STEP INTO EXPANDED OPERATIONS.

THEY WERE ALREADY FLYING WITHOUT A PERMIT. IF APPROVED, IT WOULD LIKELY BE UP TO THE RESIDENTS TO MONITOR AND REPORT VIOLATIONS.

INVESTING IN EQUIPMENT, USING PERSONAL TIME, JUST LOOKING AFTER THEIR OWN HOME.

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I AGREE WITH THE PILOT EXPERIENCE IN ACCIDENT INVESTIGATIONS AND ADVANCED SAFETY TRAINING THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD IS NOT OBLIGATED TO ACCEPT THE RISKS, AND JUST FOR ONE PERSON'S CONVENIENCE. THE APPLICANT TRIED TO DO THIS IN BELLA LARGO.

NOW HE WANTS TO DO IT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE OPPOSE THIS.

THANK YOU. OKAY, WE HAVE FRED VINCENT, AND AFTER THAT, WE'LL HAVE SAM HUNAN.

THERESA DID MY VIDEO COME UP? RIGHT CLICK. FRED VINCENT 3933 BORDEAUX CIRCLE FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

WHAT A GOOD LOOKING GROUP YOU ALL ARE. YEAH.

FRED, IF YOU HIT CONTROL AND CLICK IT, THAT SHOULD OPEN THE LINK.

SURE. OKAY, GOOD. CAN YOU STOP RIGHT THERE? SO THIS HELICOPTER IS ABOUT HALF THE WEIGHT OF 6,000 IS THE IS THE MAXIMUM BOTH THE HELICOPTERS THEY PROPOSE ARE 06,000.

THIS IS ABOUT 3000 ROBINSON. OH, I'VE FLOWN THIS AREA FOR 30 YEARS.

I'M A PILOT. WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? LOOK ALL CONCRETE, ALL ASPHALT.

YOU DON'T HAVE THE TREES CLOSE BY. YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHAT LOOK AT THE DOWNWASH AND THE WIND FROM THE DOWNWASH.

AND IMAGINE A HELICOPTER, A JET TURBINE POWERED HELICOPTER.

YOU KNOW WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG? EVERYTHING'S ALL CLEAN AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.

SO, 125FT TO CROSS TIMBERS 1171, BUT YOU START COMING FROM CROSS TIMBERS 1171 15FT. AND THERE ARE THE POWER LINES. YOU COME ANOTHER FEW FEET AND THERE'S A BIG WALKING TRAIL THAT SCOTT LANGLEY WAS TALKING ABOUT TO PASS WALKING TRAIL. AND THEN YOU GET TO THE FENCE.

SO NOW YOU'RE MAYBE, I DON'T KNOW, 80, 90FT. PLUS THE ROTOR IS 34FT.

SO CAN YOU IMAGINE SOMEBODY GOING BY ON A BICYCLE OR A KID ON ONE OF THE SCOOTERS OR SOMETHING FROM THE TURBULENCE YOU SAW FROM THAT ROTOR ON A HELICOPTER THAT'S EVEN BIGGER THAN THAT. AND I'M TALKING ABOUT EYE INJURIES OR BLOWING THEM INTO THE ROAD OR A MOTORCYCLE ON THE ROAD.

I CAN'T SAY MUCH MORE THAN WHAT MARCIA TOLD US OR WHAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD.

AND THE RESIDENTS, WE LIVE ONE MILE FROM HERE, AND WE HEAR THEM AND SEE THEM, AND THEY COME DOWN WITH THEIR LIGHTS OFF, AND WE SEE THEM LAND IN THAT AREA. WE HEAR THEM.

THEY COME IN PRETTY LOW. I DON'T KNOW. I JUST THINK IT'S INAPPROPRIATE FOR A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A SCHOOL 500FT AWAY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT KIDS.

PLAYGROUND, GAS MANIFOLD, SHOPPING CENTER, GAS STATION, AUTOMOBILE TRAFFIC.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. FRED. OKAY, WE HAVE SAM HUNAN.

HEY, Y'ALL, I'M SAM [INAUDIBLE]. 3414 RIDGECREST DRIVE.

AND OBVIOUSLY I'M UP HERE BECAUSE I OPPOSE THE HELISTOP BEING DISCUSSED THIS EVENING.

IT'S GOING TO EXIST SOLELY FOR THE CONVENIENCE OF ONE PERSON, AND THAT IS IN OPPOSITION TO THE NUISANCE IT'S GOING TO CREATE FOR THE COMMUNITY.

TO ME, IT WOULD BE THE EQUIVALENT OF SAYING THAT THE DRAINAGE DITCH THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER TODAY, WHICH HAPPENS TO GO BEHIND MY HOUSE.

I WANT IT TO BE WIDENED OUT. I'M GOING TO CUT IT SO IT GOES THROUGH MY YARD, AND THEN I CAN GET A KAYAK, AND I CAN USE IT TO GET INTO GRAPEVINE LAKE AND PADDLE ACROSS TO MY WORK IN SOUTHLAKE.

PRETTY CONVENIENT FOR ME. A LITTLE ARROGANT FOR THE NEIGHBORS AND PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LESS CONVENIENT FOR THEM.

THIS BRINGS IN NO MONEY TO FLOWER MOUND. IT'S GOING TO END UP END UP POSSIBLY IMPACTING PROPERTY VALUES FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, NOT JUST THE NOISE, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO AFFECT THE WILDLIFE IN THE AREA.

THERE'S ROTOR SLAP OR BLADE SLAP. THIS IS FOR A BELL 407 HELICOPTER AND FOR AN A-STAR.

THIS IS A PART 135 CHARTER OPERATION CHARTER ON DEMAND.

THEY ARE VFR OPERATION. THEY'LL BE OPERATING IN UNCONTROLLED AIRSPACE.

FOR UNCONTROLLED AIRSPACE DAYTIME THEIR VISIBILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE ONE HALF MILE VISIBILITY IN CLEAR CLOUDS.

THEY HAVE NO WEATHER REPORTING INSTRUMENTATION AT THIS PROPOSED HELISTOP.

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IT IS AERO PARK, I BELIEVE IS WHAT IT'S CALLED AERO VALLEY.

AND THE AIRPORT DESIGNATION IS FOXTROT 52. THERE'S ADVISORY CIRCULAR AND ADVISORY CIRCULAR AC 9136 DELTA VISUAL FLIGHT RULES TALKS ABOUT FLIGHT NEAR NOISE SENSITIVE AREAS AND 0.7 TALKS ABOUT THE IDEA THAT IT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE AC IS IN AN AREA IS NOISE SENSITIVE IF THE NOISE INTERFERES WITH NORMAL ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE AREA'S USE.

EXAMPLES OF NOISE SENSITIVE AREAS INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL, EDUCATIONAL, HEALTH, RELIGIOUS SITES, STRUCTURAL PARKS, RECREATION YOU GET THE IDEA.

ADVISORY CIRCULAR 9132 BRAVO HELICOPTER NOISE.

THEY ARE ADVISED THAT IF THEY'RE GOING TO BE FLYING AROUND POPULATED AREAS, THAT THEY SHOULD BE, IT'S NOT MANDATORY TRAINED IN NOISE ABATEMENT PROCEDURES.

ADDITIONALLY, FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, AT NIGHTTIME AND OF COURSE 10 P.M.

IS NIGHTTIME, SUMMERTIME WINTERTIME, THEY NEED ONE MILE IN CLEAR CLOUDS.

ADVISORY CIRCULAR 150 53.92 DELTA HELIPORT DESIGN TALKS ABOUT THE DEPARTURE AND THE ARRIVAL AND THE THE SLOPE THAT THEY SHOULD FOLLOW. IT'S AN 8 TO 1 RATIO THAT'S RUN OVER RISE 4000FT FOR EVERY 500FT OF 500FT OF ALTITUDE GAINED.

AND YOU COULD DO THE MATH. I GUARANTEE YOU THEY'RE NOWHERE CLOSE TO MEETING THAT REQUIREMENT.

IT'S ACTUALLY ADVISORY. THEY'RE NOWHERE CLOSE TO MEETING THAT AS IT RELATES TO TREES, POWER LINES.

THE WIND DOESN'T BEHAVE CONSISTENTLY. IT GUSTS.

IT MOVES THINGS AROUND. IT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR HYDRAULIC FUEL LEAKS IN THE EVENT THAT SOMETHING OVERTURNED.

I WISH I HAD MORE TIME BECAUSE I'M INTO THIS.

OH, I VOTE. OH, AND LASTLY, AND I'LL GET OUT OF THE WAY HERE.

I STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THAT YOU KEEP THIS OUT OF OUR CITY.

THANK YOU. OKAY, SO WE HAVE ADAM ARTHOUSE IS THE.

OH, ALTHOUSE, CAN YOU BRING THAT SLIDE BACK UP AGAIN WITH THE THE DRAWING? APPRECIATE IT.

MIC] SO AGAIN, ADAM ALTHOUSE 6610 RAINTREE PLACE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS. I AM AT THE HOUSE THAT IS RIGHT THERE.

SO WHEN THE GENTLEMAN DRAWS THE MAP HERE OF THE THE FLIGHT PLAN, KIND OF THE LITTLE BLUE AREA TAKEOFF, AS MR. HONEY JUST POINTED OUT MY HOUSE IS ABOUT 2200FT AS THE CROW FLIES TO HERE.

IF YOU'RE FLYING WITHIN THAT 500 FOOT ELEVATION AREA, THE GLIDE SLOPE THERE AT 8 TO 1 IS ABOUT 4,000FT, WHERE YOU START NEEDING TO DESCEND, I'M HALFWAY.

YOU CAN DO THE MATH. 500 250. HE'D BE AT MY HOUSE AT 250FT.

IF Y'ALL LIVE OUT THERE, LIVE NEAR THE AIRPORT. YOU KNOW THESE PLANES FLY OVER, HELICOPTERS FLY OVER.

I CAN HEAR THE AIRPLANES FLYING OVER WHEN THEY'RE OVER AT 2,300FT FLYING INTO DFW.

THEY'RE LOUD. IT'S LOUD UP THERE. AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE TOO, WHICH IS INTERESTING, AS I THOUGHT ABOUT THIS, THESE POWER LINES HERE STATED THAT THERE ARE 125FT AWAY, WHILE USING THAT SAME GLIDE SLOPE OF 8 TO 1.

THAT MEANS THAT HE SHOULD BE COMING IN ABOUT 15 TO 16FT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL, NEAR THOSE POWER LINES.

POWER LINES, AS I REMEMBER, A LITTLE TALLER THAN 15 OR 16FT THERE, ABOUT 60FT IN THE AIR.

SO HE WOULD HAVE TO BE COMING IN AT A PRETTY STEEP LANDING SLOPE TO COME IN HERE AND TO CLEAR US A STEEP LANDING SLOPE.

SO THIS LITTLE BLUE THING NEEDS TO EXPAND WAY, WAY, WAY DOWN HERE AND WAY, WAY UP OVER HERE TO GET THE PROPER GLIDE SLOPES.

NOW, ON THOSE GLIDE SLOPES TOO, WE MENTIONED ABOUT THE 95 DBA CHRIS, YOU WERE CORRECT ON THAT TOO.

THAT HELICOPTER AT 200FT AT IDLE. REMEMBER, THIS IS AT IDLE THEY MEASURE THESE IS 95 DBA.

WHEN YOU'RE COMING IN AT A STEEPER SLOPE, HELICOPTERS NEED MORE POWER TO COME IN A STEEPER SLOPE.

THAT PUTS OUT A LOT MORE WIND, A LOT MORE ROTOR WASH, A LOT MORE NOISE, A LOT MORE STUFF BEING BLOWN AROUND.

GENTLEMAN HERE FROM THE AVIATION SAFETY FROM THE AIR FORCE MENTIONED THAT AT 200FT, THE AIR VELOCITY COMING OFF THOSE ROTORS IS 125KM/H, 75 MILES AN HOUR. THAT'S HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AT 200FT.

THESE RESIDENTS RIGHT HERE, THEY'LL BE EXPERIENCING HURRICANE FORCE WINDS AT THEIR PROPERTY LINE, AT IDLE FOR THAT HELICOPTER, MUCH LESS IF HE'S COMING IN AT THE SLOPE HE NEEDS TO COME INTO AND LAND THERE.

HE NEEDS TO COME IN VERY STEEP TO COME IN HERE.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS THAT 8 TO 1 RECOMMENDATION.

HE JUST CAN'T DO IT. SO AGAIN, I JUST DON'T THINK ACTUALLY, I THINK THIS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA.

I DON'T THINK IT'S NOT EVEN A GOOD IDEA. IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO COME IN HERE AND LAND. THERE'S AN AIRPORT AWAY. HE'S ATTEMPTING TO LAND AT HIS HOUSE BEFORE NEIGHBORS DROVE HIM CRAZY. YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.

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I APPRECIATE THE PLANNING AND ZONING TIME TO HEAR A LOT OF EXPERT TESTIMONY.

I THINK YOU'VE HAD TIME TO REVIEW IT. I APPRECIATE YOU ALL HAVING US HERE TONIGHT TOO, AND THANK YOU AGAIN.

AND PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THIS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY. THERESA DO WE HAVE ANY MORE CARDS? OKAY.

THAT'S IT. DOES ANYONE WISH TO SPEAK THAT HAS NOT FILLED OUT A CARD? OKAY, WE WILL CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. AND WE'LL HAVE DISCUSSION ON THIS.

LET'S KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE AIRSPACE.

THIS SUP REQUIREMENT THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS TO EXTEND THE RIGHTS OF THIS ZONING AREA.

AND IT'S ABOUT THE NOISE CONTROL AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE AIR, THE FAA DISCUSSES THAT OR THAT'S RULED OVER BY THE FAA.

I'LL START. OKAY. OKAY. GO FOR IT. SO I WATCHED THE P&Z MEETING, AND THE FIRST THING I JUST WANT TO SAY IS, I LOVE HOW SMART OUR RESIDENTS ARE. RESIDENT AFTER RESIDENT AFTER RESIDENT CAME UP AND GAVE WHAT I THOUGHT SOUNDED LIKE EXPERT TESTIMONY.

AND WOW, THEY ARE SMART. THEY DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ENGAGING IN THE PROCESS IN THAT WAY.

I WAS VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE AND THE DOWNWASH, OF COURSE, BUT I ACTUALLY REQUESTED OF STAFF, DID WE HAVE THE CAPACITY IN THIS BUILDING TO PLAY AN AUDIO CLIP OF A HELICOPTER AT 85 TO 100DB? AND BECAUSE I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO PROBABLY DON'T REALIZE REALLY WHAT THE NOISE LEVEL IS AND HOW LOUD THAT IS.

JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. RULE OF THUMB IS IF YOU'RE STANDING KIND OF MAYBE THIS FAR APART FROM SOMEONE AND YOU HAVE TO YELL TO HEAR EACH OTHER, THAT'S AROUND 80, 85DB. SO YOU KIND OF KNOW. AND IT'S DANGEROUS FOR YOUR HEARING, PARTICULARLY IF YOU'RE EXPOSED TO IT FOR MORE THAN EIGHT HOURS.

HOWEVER, THAT WOULD NOT BE THE CASE HERE IT COULD BE LOUDER.

BUT STAFF, I THINK THEY WERE KIND OF AMUSED AT MY REQUEST.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S EVER ASKED FOR THAT BEFORE. BUT BASICALLY WHAT THEY SAID IS THEY WERE AFRAID THAT THE SPEAKERS WOULD BLOW.

SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION. I AGREE WITH YOU ALL.

IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. THE CROSS TIMBERS IS SUCH A BEAUTIFUL AREA AND WE HAVE ALL REALLY, ALL OF US TALKED ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THAT AREA WITH SPECIAL STANDARDS AND SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS. AND, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENT IS IMPORTANT TO ALL OF US.

SO I'M VERY MUCH AGAINST THIS IDEA. THANK YOU.

OKAY, BRIAN. I THINK ANN HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.

IN GENERAL IT'S JUST NOT A GOOD IDEA. THE ADJACENCY IS JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROXIMITY TO THE HOMES AND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FLIGHT ZONE THAT'S PRESENTED THERE, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD CONCEPT. BUT AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, THE WINDS ARE GOING TO DO WHAT THE WINDS ARE GOING TO DO, AND THE PILOT'S GOING TO DO WHATEVER THEY CAN TO GET IN THERE SAFELY.

SO THAT THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE FLIGHT ZONE. AS ANN MENTIONED, THIS IS THE CROSS TIMBERS AND IT'S JUST NOT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THIS IN THIS LOCATION. SO I'LL LET OTHERS SPEAK. BUT THEN I'M READY WITH THE MOTION WHENEVER THE MAYOR IS READY.

OKAY. I'M IN THE SAME BOAT. I MEAN, JUST THE NOISE ISSUE IN GENERAL IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO BE CONCERNED.

IT'S JUST THE WRONG SPOT COMPLETELY. YEAH. NO BRIAN DIDN'T MENTION THIS, BUT HE'S A BIT OF AN EXPERT IN THIS FIELD AS WELL.

BRIAN, DO YOU KNOW IF THAT NORTH LAKE AIRPORT IS, IN FACT, WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR THIS, THIS GENTLEMAN TO TAKE OFF AND LAND FROM.

DO WE KNOW THAT? IT CERTAINLY ALLOWS A HELICOPTER OPERATIONS WITHOUT A DOUBT.

OKAY. SO IT'S ABOUT 11 MILES OR 11 MINUTES AWAY FROM THIS LOCATION.

ALL RIGHT. SO WHEN MRS. YORK FIRST BROUGHT THIS TO US, SHE CAME UP.

AND I GUESS THAT THAT'S HER NEIGHBOR. AND HE'S BEEN TAKING OFF AND LANDING FROM HIS BACKYARD.

AND YOU KNOW, I MAY HAVE BEEN A LITTLE DISMISSIVE, SO I'M JUST GOING TO ADMIT THAT SEEING ALL OF YOU HERE AND COMING TO THE P&Z MEETING IS 100% YOU'VE LET ME KNOW. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.

LET ME JUST PUT IT THAT WAY. AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT JUST DON'T BELONG IN TOWN LIMITS.

WE ENJOY THEM WITH FIREARMS AND FIREWORKS. AND I GUESS HELICOPTERS, TOO, IS PROBABLY SOMETHING THAT YOU SHOULD DO OUT IN THE COUNTRY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE IN FAVOR OF THIS. THANK YOU. JUST ADDING ON TO EVERYONE ELSE, I COMPLETELY AGREE.

IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. I CAN'T THINK OF A PLACE THAT REALLY WOULD BE GOOD.

IF IT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE 50 ACRES POSSIBLY, BUT NOT RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTS.

I GREW UP WITH A HELICOPTER LANDING NOT FAR FROM OUR PROPERTY, AND IT DOES SCARE THE ANIMALS.

IT DOES SCARE THE HORSES, AND IT DOES CAUSE A LOT OF DEBRIS TO TO FLY AROUND.

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SORRY. I I MEAN, TO CUT YOU OFF. OKAY. SO. YEAH, I'M.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY WHO HAS HAVE EMAILED IN.

WE RECEIVED QUITE A FEW EMAILS. AND THEN COMING FORWARD TO THESE MEETINGS, IT REALLY ALLOWS TRANSPARENCY FOR EVERYBODY TO SEE THIS, THAT, THAT IS WATCHING AT HOME. AND WE CERTAINLY HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE OPPOSE THIS.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT, I MAY NOTE HE DID NOT SHOW UP TONIGHT FOR THIS MEETING.

AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS THE REASON I'M UP HERE.

THIS COUNCIL IS VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S THAT'S WHY I'M DOING WHAT I'M DOING, BECAUSE I LOVE THIS COUNCIL.

AND SO I THINK WE'RE READY TO MAKE A MOTION. I MOVE TO DENY REGULAR ITEM K2.

SECOND. OKAY. THERESA CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLL? THE SCRIVENER RANCH HELISTOP DID NOT PASS BY UNANIMOUS VOTE [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU ALL. OKAY, AT THIS TIME, THE TIME IS NOW 7:36.

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

OH, WAIT, YOU CAN'T TALK TO THAT PERSON ANYMORE.

OKAY. OH, WAIT. WE'VE GOT ENOUGH. OKAY. OKAY.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:53. WE ARE RECONVENING INTO OPEN SESSION.

[N. RECONVENE]

SECOND. OKAY. THERESA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THE ROLL? THE TIME IS NOW 7:54, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

GOOD NIGHT FLOWER MOUND.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.