Feb 03, 2025 Town Council Archive

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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GOOD EVENING. FLOWER MOUND. IT'S NOW 6 P.M. WE ARE MEETING HERE FOR OUR FEBRUARY 3RD REGULAR MEETING, AND WE ARE GOING TO BE JOINED BY CHAPLAIN MCNAMER FOR OUR INVOCATION THIS EVENING.

YOU MAY HAVE TO PIVOT. OKAY. SOMEBODY WANT TO SAY THE INVOCATION TONIGHT? ANYONE? OKAY, I'LL DO IT. WE'RE GOING TO RISE AND SAY THE INVOCATION, AND WE'LL STAY UP AND SAY THE PLEDGES.

DEAR FATHER, BLESS US THIS EVENING FOR ALL THAT WE HAVE, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WITH US.

BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS AND LOVE ONE ANOTHER.

AMEN.

. I APOLOGIZE. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS TONIGHT. FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THERESA. DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT CARDS? AGAIN, I WANT TO APOLOGIZE. I I'M GOING THROUGH A TRYING PERIOD TONIGHT, SO BEAR WITH ME.

OKAY. I APPRECIATE IT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT WITH TOM CANTON.

[D. PUBLIC COMMENT]

IT'S INTERESTING. I DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOU GUYS.

BUT I ACTUALLY SAT IN YOUR CHAIR. I SERVED IN PLACE 2 IN 1998.

IN 1999 WELL BEFORE THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT, AND I HAD TO VACATE MY POSITION, MY EMPLOYER MOVING TO HOUSTON.

THAT WAS 23 YEARS AGO, AND MY WIFE AND I RECENTLY MOVED BACK, AND WE WOULD HAVE LOVED TO HAVE COME BACK TO FLOWER MOUND, BUT WE WANTED TO BE ON THE LAKE. SO WE'RE IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE, SO DON'T HATE ME, HATE US FOR THAT.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE WHAT I'VE COME BACK TO.

RIGHT. WHEN I WAS ON THE COUNCIL, WE ANNEXED THE LAND INTO OUR ETJ.

THAT GOT US ALL THE WAY OUT TO 35. WE PASSED THE FIRST TREE ORDINANCE.

WE DID ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE WERE VERY PROUD OF.

AND TO COME BACK AND SEE THE QUALITY OF THE TOWN THAT IT IS, IT JUST WARMS MY HEART.

AND SO YEAH, IT WAS IT WAS IT WAS GREAT. WE WORKED A LOT OF GREAT PEOPLE.

I WAS THE YOUNGEST EVER ELECTED OFFICIAL IN THIS TOWN. I WAS 26 WHEN I WAS ELECTED.

SO THAT WAS LITERALLY HALF MY LIFE AGO. BUT, YOU KNOW, VAN JAMES WAS OUR TOWN MANAGER.

PAUL LAWRENCE WAS THE SECRETARY. HARLAN JEFFERSON RAN FINANCE.

I WAS ELECTED THE SAME TIME THAT LORI DELUCA WAS ELECTED.

I KNOW A LOT OF YOU FOLKS KNOW LORI. SO, AGAIN, NOT ABOUT ME.

I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ALL DO.

IT'S SO IMPRESSIVE TO DRIVE DOWN 1171 AND SEE THE CHARACTER OF THE TOWN.

TO DRIVE THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. YOU KNOW, BRIDLEWOOD DIDN'T EXIST BACK THEN, WHICH IS KIND OF CRAZY TO THINK ABOUT, BUT YEAH, SO JUST KUDOS TO YOU GUYS. LOVE YOU ALL AND GOD BLESS FLOWER MOUND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. WE HAVE TOM BACK AGAIN IF YOU'LL SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. GOOD EVENING.

TODD BAYUK, 1045 PEDERNALES FALLS DRIVE. ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, I WAS HERE FOR WEEKS ON END WITH HUNDREDS OF MY NEIGHBORS AND SPOKE QUITE FREQUENTLY TO TOWN COUNCIL AND PLANNING AND ZONING CONCERNING A PROJECT WE WERE OPPOSED TO THE CROSS TIMBERS BUSINESS PARK.

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IT WAS A TRULY REWARDING, AMAZING, AND HUMBLING EXPERIENCE WHICH FUELED MY COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY.

DURING THOSE INTERACTIONS IS WHEN I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTERACT WITH ADAM SCHIESTEL AND BRIAN TAYLOR.

SINCE THAT TIME, I HAVE CONTINUED TO BE ENGAGED WITH TOWN INTERESTS AND FOLLOW UP PROJECTS AND INITIATIVES. WHAT IS APPARENT TO ME IS THAT BOTH ADAM AND BRIAN HAVE A PASSION FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AND HAVE CONTINUED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT COMMITMENT TO THE RESIDENTS SINCE THEIR ELECTIONS IN 2022.

THEY TAKE THE TIME TO RESEARCH ISSUES, TALK WITH RESIDENTS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, TO ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS TO ENSURE THAT FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS ARE ALWAYS THEIR FIRST CONSIDERATION. ADDITIONALLY, THEY HAVE BOTH BEEN DILIGENT IN ENSURING THAT ACTIVE, PASSIONATE AND QUALIFIED FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS ARE STRONGLY CONSIDERED FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO SERVE ON TOWN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN SUPPORTING OUR COMMUNITY.

WELL, I DON'T AGREE WITH ALL THEIR DECISIONS THAT THEY HAVE MADE ON THE DAIS.

I KNOW IT'S NOT AS EASY AS IT SEEMS WHEN YOU'RE UP THERE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS AND, ON THE SPOT, BUT I KNOW THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE TOWN RESIDENTS AND BEST INTEREST IN MIND.

I PROUDLY SUPPORTED ADAM AND BRIAN IN 2022, AND I'M HERE TONIGHT TO OFFER MY ENDORSEMENT FOR THEM AGAIN THIS YEAR.

PLEASE VOTE FOR ADAM SCHIESTEL AND BRIAN TAYLOR IN THE MAY 3RD ELECTION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT CARDS? OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND COME UP AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? ALL RIGHT. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[E. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

OKAY. YEAH. I WAS JUST GOING TO ANNOUNCE. SO, WE'VE GOT SOME TOWN EVENTS COMING UP.

KIDS NIGHT IN IS THIS FRIDAY. SO YOU CAN MAKE YOUR RESERVATION.

A GREAT WAY TO GO OUT FOR VALENTINE'S DAY AND DROP YOUR KIDS OFF AT THE PARK.

AND THEN THE FATHER DAUGHTER PROM. UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S FULL AT THIS TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT EVENT.

LOOK INTO IT NEXT YEAR AND MARK YOUR CALENDAR TO REGISTER.

AND THEN THE SINK OR SAIL REGATTA IS COMING UP IN MARCH, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A FUN ONE.

SO. YEAH. OKAY, GOOD. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO AHEAD.

AND I'M GOING TO SHOOT IT OVER TO JAMES FOR THE TOWN MANAGER REPORT.

[F. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

FIRST OFF THE BAT, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE CHUCK AND HIS TEAM.

WE WERE THE RECIPIENTS OF A TEXAS PARK AND WILDLIFE GRANT FOR $750,000.

THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS AT TROTTER PARK. AND AS YOU RECALL, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS ABOUT DEVELOPMENT OF THAT PARK. IT'S A MATCHING GRANT.

WE TRY OUR BEST TO BE ABLE TO LEVERAGE THESE GRANT OPPORTUNITIES AND TRY TO PARK.

AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF US DOING THAT, WE AGAIN HAVE OUR APPLICATIONS OUT FOR ADDITIONAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES FOR PETER'S COLONY PARK AND OTHER AREAS.

BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A GREAT JOB THAT CHUCK AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE TO AGAIN, JUST IT'S PARKS ARE EXPENSIVE, AND ANYTIME WE CAN LEVERAGE OTHER DOLLARS IN ORDER TO GET THESE THINGS DONE IN A MORE COST EFFECTIVE MANNER FOR OUR RESIDENTS, WE JUST WANT TO POINT THAT OUT. SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE FACT THAT WE ARE THE RECIPIENTS OF THAT $750,000 GRANT FOR TROTTER PARK.

UP NEXT, AS FAR AS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT'S CONCERNED, I TRIED TO GET MELODY IN FRONT OF YOU.

IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE SHE'S GOT UP THERE, BUT SHE JUST GAVE ME THIS TIDBIT TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL THAT THIS PAST YEAR, WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF SUCCESS IN OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AREAS.

WE HAD 92 NEW BUSINESSES OPEN IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, WHICH CREATED APPROXIMATELY 100 PLUS JOBS.

AND SO AGAIN, IT'S SOMETIMES YOU GET BUSY AND YOU KIND OF LOSE COUNT AND YOU GET KIND OF CAUGHT UP IN THESE BIGGER PROJECTS.

BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT LITTLE BIT OF INFORMATION TO SHOW THE WORK THAT'S BEING DONE ON OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SIDE OF THINGS.

AND LASTLY, LAST TIME THAT WE MET, I TALKED ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAD OUR SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH FOCUS GROUP KICKED OFF LAST WEEK. IT WAS A GREAT SUCCESS IN THE SENSE THAT WE HAD A LOT OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS COME OUT AND PROVIDE SOME GOOD INFO ACROSS THE BOARD, AND I THINK WE HAVE A PATH FORWARD THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON.

WE HAVEN'T SET OUR NEXT MEETING QUITE YET, BUT ONCE WE DO, WE'LL LET THE PUBLIC KNOW ABOUT THAT.

AND THEN OUR HOPE IS, IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THIS GROUP, IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT'S ACTIONABLE ON THAT, OBVIOUSLY WE'LL BRING IT BEFORE THIS BODY. BUT REALLY, THE GREAT NEWS OUT OF THAT IS WE ARE IDENTIFYING SOME NONPROFITS THAT CAN REALLY BE THE TIP OF THE SPEAR FOR THIS IN THE TOWN CAN SUPPORT AND RALLY BEHIND THOSE GROUPS.

AND SO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THAT. BUT SINCE I BROUGHT IT UP LAST MINUTE, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A FOLLOW UP THAT THAT INITIAL KICKOFF MEETING OF THAT FOCUS GROUP WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED, AND WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, MENTIONED INFORMATION SHARING, AS WELL AS STARTING TO CHART A PATH FORWARD FROM THAT GROUP, SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT, TOO, PUBLICLY. THAT'S IT. THAT WAS QUICK. OKAY, WE'LL MOVE AND MOVE AHEAD TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. WE'LL START DOWN HERE. ANYBODY? NO. WE'RE MOVING ALONG FAST TONIGHT.

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[H. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

YEP. OKAY. AND THEN WE'LL MOVE FORWARD TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[I. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS I ONE THROUGH EIGHT AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OKAY. THERESA. IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

WE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE REGULAR ITEMS.

[J.1. Consider approval of an ordinance calling a bond e - Consider approval of an ordinance calling a bond election to be held May 3, 2025, for the purpose of submitting to the qualified voters ballot propositions on whether to fund park and recreational facilities, including trail systems, park and sports fields and the Community Activity Center and to fund street improvements with general obligation bonds in the amount of $112,000,000; resolving other matters incident and related to such election and providing a publication of notice.]

AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JOHN ZAGURSKI TALK ABOUT THIS.

WE'VE HAD THE BLUE RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE GATHER FOR QUITE A FEW MONTHS TO TALK ABOUT OUR BOND ELECTION, AND THEY'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY WORKING TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY AT THIS POINT.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, SO WE HAVE TO FIND A WAY TO FUND SOME AMENITIES THAT WE WANT TO DO AND SOME REPAIRS THAT WE WANT TO DO IN AN AGING COMMUNITY. AND SO, JOHN HAS A GREAT PRESENTATION THAT HE WANTS TO PRESENT TO YOU ALL.

AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE IN OUR OTHER MEETINGS. THIS IS JUST GOING OVER HOW IT'S GOING TO BE PRESENTED.

YES, MA'AM. NO, THAT'S NOT IT. MY APOLOGIES.

THAT'S AN INTERESTING. THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. WE'VE GONE OVER ALL THE ITEMS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS.

AND SO, BASED ON THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU PROVIDED, I WANTED TO SHOW YOU THE BOND LANGUAGE AS IT WOULD BE PRESENTED AND AS IT'S LISTED IN THE ORDINANCE. SO MANY OF THE CHANGES WE DID FOR THIS ONE HAVE TO DO WITH HOW THE PROJECTS WERE ACTUALLY LISTED.

SO SPECIFICALLY MOVING THE CAC TO THE BACK, BUT ALSO LISTING, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THE OTHER COMMUNITY PROJECTS UP FRONT HAVING A FLAT AMOUNT OF 82 MILLION INSTEAD OF 81, 900,000. THIS. AND SO BY SIMPLIFYING THE AMOUNTS, WE THINK IT'LL BE EASIER TO READ.

AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE THAT WHEN IT COMES TO JUST WHAT THE GENERAL PROPOSITION WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.

SO THE OTHER PART IS WHAT GOES IN THE ORDINANCE AND IS WHAT'S DESCRIBED IN NEWSPAPERS. AND SO THIS WILL ACTUALLY BE WHAT PEOPLE VOTE ON IN THE BALLOT BOX.

AND SO AGAIN WE DID A BIT OF A RESHUFFLE. SO PARKS, RECREATION FACILITIES INCLUDING TRAIL SYSTEMS, PARKS AND SPORTS FIELDS AND THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER AND THE IMPOSITION OF TAX SUFFICIENT TO PAY THE PRINCIPAL ON THE BONDS.

AND SO, I BELIEVE THIS LISTS OUT THE PRIORITIES THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AND THE BOND AMOUNT. JOHN, DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO SLIDE TWO? I JUST READ THROUGH THAT AGAIN REAL QUICK.

OKAY. THANKS. YOU'RE WELCOME. ALL RIGHT. PROPOSITION B SIMILAR AS LONG BUT MUCH FOR A MUCH SIMPLER USE.

AND SO, THIS ONE, AGAIN LAYS OUT ALL THE THINGS RELATING TO BASICALLY STREET IMPROVEMENTS.

AND SPECIFICALLY, THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION. AND BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S A LOT OF LEGAL LANGUAGE THAT GOES INTO THAT.

JUST IN CASE YOU WANT TO READ IT, I'M GOING TO LINGER HERE FOR A SECOND.

YEAH. AGAIN, THESE LONGER TEXTS WOULD ACTUALLY BE AVAILABLE IN THE NEWSPAPER WHEN WE ADVERTISE FOR THIS, THIS. AND SO, THIS WOULD BE THE LONGER TEXT. WHENEVER WE GET TO THE BALLOT BOX, RESIDENTS WILL SEE THIS.

SO ULTIMATELY THIS IS WHAT IT ALL ACTUALLY COMES DOWN TO.

AND EVENTUALLY, LIKE YOU THINK OF THIS AS A REVERSE FUNNEL.

AND IT'S ALL PUSHING US TO THIS POINT, WHICH IS THE ELECTION.

AND THIS LANGUAGE. AND THEN EVENTUALLY WHEN PEOPLE GO TO THE BALLOT BOX, THIS IS WHAT THEY WILL SEE. AND SO, IT FEELS LIKE A LOT CRAMMED INTO A FEW SENTENCES.

SO, I KNOW THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMETIMES HARD TO WRAP OUR HEADS AROUND.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE SIMPLICITY OF THIS, THIS HELPS PEOPLE.

IT'S A LOT MORE LOT MORE TRANSPARENT THAN TRYING TO LIST EVERY SINGLE ITEM, EVERY SINGLE THING. AND SO, I HOPE THIS BETTER CLEARLY DEMONSTRATES WHAT WE WANT TO USE THE MONEY FOR, OR WHILE NOT LISTING EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL ITEM.

BUT IN A BROAD TERM. SO IF A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHAT STREETS ARE INCLUDED IN THIS, HOW DO THEY HOW WILL THEY FIND OUT? SO WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT PUBLIC INFORMATION THINGS.

WE'LL ALSO PUT OUT PUBLIC INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE REGARDING THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'VE DONE THUS FAR, BUT THEY WILL BE FILTERED THROUGH OUR BOND COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT WE

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AND SO SPECIFICALLY WITH STREETS, IT'S NOT SPECIFIC STREETS.

THESE $30 MILLION IS TO PROVIDE REPLACEMENT FUNDING OVER FIVE YEARS, AND WILL HEAVILY DEPEND ON WHICH STREETS ARE AT THE HIGHEST NEED, BUT ALSO IF THERE'S ANY FAILURES. AND SO THE FLEXIBILITY THAT WE'RE ASKING FOR THERE IS TO REPLACE THE STREETS THAT ARE NEEDED IN JUST IN CASE OF EMERGENCIES BY NOT LISTING EVERY SINGLE STREET. I MEAN, MOST COMPREHENSIVE THING TO DO WOULD BE TO LIST EVERY STREET, BUT THIS IS KIND OF LIKE AN ALL CLAUSE.

SO IF SOMEBODY SAYS, WELL, I THINK THE STREET IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE SHOULD BE PART OF THIS, THAT THAT CONVERSATION REALLY HAPPENS AFTER THIS ELECTION.

THEN WE THEN WE START TO FIGURE OUT WHAT STREETS ARE THE PRIORITY, WHERE THIS MONEY SHOULD BE SPENT. YES, SIR. AND SO, YOU BRING THAT BACK, AND WE WOULD LIST WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE FUNDS BEFORE WE GO, ISSUE THE BOND PROCEEDS AND SAY, THESE ARE WHAT STREETS ARE BEING UTILIZED FOR.

AND AS I SAID, THIS WILL BE FUNDING FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. SO, YOU'LL SEE MULTIPLE TRANCHES COME FOR THIS.

AND SO, YOU'LL HAVE MULTIPLE BITES OF THIS APPLE TO ADVOCATE IT, OR EVEN FOR RESIDENTS TO COME UP AND SAY, PLEASE USE THESE FUNDINGS FOR THIS.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. MAYOR COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M HERE. I'VE GOT COUNCIL HERE. I'VE GOT BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE HERE. AND I WANT TO THANK THEM ALL FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DID. YEAH.

THANK YOU ALL. YOU'VE PUT THIS TOGETHER SO WELL, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS TONIGHT, RIGHT? SO, WE DO HAVE TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS.

WE HAVE TO FINALIZE IT BEFORE WE VOTE. I WOULDN'T MIND HEARING FROM THE BOND COUNCIL JUST ABOUT THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND AND HOW THAT'S GOING TO GOING TO WORK. AND THE PAYBACK, THE REPAYMENT TERMS. AND I WAS LOOKING IN THE PACKET ABOUT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, ACCUMULATING INTEREST OVER TIME.

AND I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW HOW ALL THAT'S GOING TO WORK.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. GOOD EVENING. SO, THE PROCESS WHEN IT COMES TIME TO ISSUE THE BONDS IS JOHN SAYS THEY'LL COME BACK TO YOU WITH A PARTICULAR ISSUANCE OF THIS VOTED AUTHORIZATION.

SO JUST REMEMBER THAT BY PUTTING THIS TO THE VOTERS, THAT DOESN'T OBLIGATE YOU TO ISSUE ONE PENNY'S WORTH OF BONDS, AND YOU'LL COME BACK AND DO THAT. SO THE PROCESS TYPICALLY WILL BE TO IDENTIFY WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.

YOU'LL ALSO AT THAT TIME DECIDE THE MATURITY AMOUNT, YOU KNOW, THE YEARS.

SO, YOU'LL NOTICE IN THAT PARAGRAPH PROPOSITION, IT SAID NOT TO EXCEED 30 YEARS.

TYPICALLY, YOU ALL DON'T GO 30 YEARS IN YOUR DEBT, BUT YOU MIGHT ELECT TO ISSUE THOSE FOR 20 YEARS.

FOR EXAMPLE, WITHIN THAT 30 YEAR WINDOW, YOU'LL PROVIDE REDEMPTION FEATURES.

AND THE TYPICAL PROCESS, I WOULD SUSPECT, WOULD BE A TEN YEAR REDEMPTION PROTECTION OR CALL FEATURE.

SO IF YOU WERE TO ISSUE THEM IN 2025, YOU PROBABLY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO REFUND THOSE UNTIL 2035.

THAT'S PRETTY TYPICAL IN THE MARKETPLACE. THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT GIVE OR TAKE, BUT AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE MARKETPLACE, YOU'LL DETERMINE THOSE SPECIFICS AND THEN YOU'LL DEAL WITH SOMETIMES DEPENDING ON THE STRUCTURE OF THE SALE, WHETHER IT'S A COMPETITIVELY BID SALE OR WHETHER IT'S A NEGOTIATED SALE, YOU GET INPUT FROM THOSE PURCHASERS. AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DAY, OF COURSE, ALL THOSE THINGS WILL GO THROUGH THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE, THE BONDS FOR THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE. AND THE BONDS WILL BE REGISTERED WITH THE COMPTROLLER OF PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.

GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU ABOUT 30 DAYS FROM THE DATE THAT YOU PASS THE ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE SALE OF THOSE OBLIGATIONS TO GET MONEY IN THE BANK AND BE IN A POSITION TO SPEND THOSE DOLLARS. AND THAT'S PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

AND THAT WILL HAPPEN THROUGH ALL THOSE TRANCHES THAT JOHN'S TALKING ABOUT. SO IF THE VOTERS APPROVED THIS, THEN THE BONDS WILL HIT THE MARKET. WHEN WOULD YOU EXPECT THAT TO HAPPEN.

YOU KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DRIVEN BY WHAT YOU DIRECT.

SO YOU HAVE A 30 DAY ELECTION CONTEST PERIOD.

FREEZE! SO YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNTIL THAT 30 DAY PERIOD IS RUN FROM THE DATE YOU CANVASS THE RESULTS.

AFTER THAT, THEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS AND PUT TOGETHER AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT. TYPICALLY, AND MY GUESS IS, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU NEED TO HAVE MONEY IN THE WORKS QUICKLY, YOU'LL DO THAT AS REASONABLY PRUDENT AS YOU KNOW AFTERWARDS.

AND YOU'RE GETTING CLOSE TO THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO, PEOPLE START SAYING, WELL, IT'S THANKSGIVING OR CHRISTMAS IS THAT START INTERFERING WITH WHEN WE'RE GOING TO SPEND THE DOLLARS AND THE MARKETING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THERE'LL BE A LOT OF DISCUSSION WITH STAFF AND THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS TO WHETHER OR NOT IT'S THE BEST TIME FOR YOU TO BE AUTHORIZING THOSE BONDS, BUT IN THAT CYCLE, YOU'LL JUST BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT ALL THOSE THINGS, REALLY COME BACK TO YOU AND YOUR DISCRETION AS YOU EXERCISE IT, AND YOU ELECT TO DO THAT. AND WHAT DO YOU ANTICIPATE THE BOND MARKET WILL BE LIKE? IT'LL BE HOT AS A PISTOL. HOT AS A PISTOL. IS IT BETTER THAT FOR US TO WAIT OR TO MOVE QUICKLY? NOW, WHOSE CRYSTAL BALL CAN REALLY TELL YOU THAT? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT JUST IS A FUNCTION OF WHERE YOU ARE.

I MEAN, THE MARKET TODAY IS PRETTY GOOD AND PRETTY SOLID.

THE NICE THING IS YOU ALL HAVE AN EXCEPTIONAL CREDIT RATING.

AND SO, AS A RESULT OF THAT, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BORROWING AT THE BEST INTEREST RATES THAT YOU CAN GET IN THE MARKETPLACE TODAY.

WHATEVER THAT'S GOING TO END UP BEING. BUT I THINK YOU'LL FIND WHEN YOU GET READY TO DO THAT, YOU'LL HAVE PRETTY ATTRACTIVE RESPONSE FROM THE MARKETPLACE.

THANK YOU. AND AS I UNDERSTAND, AS YOU MENTIONED, WHEN A PROJECT COMES TO US AS COUNCIL, WE CAN APPROVE THAT.

THEN WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THE 30 DAYS AND WE GET THAT MONEY AND UNDER WHATEVER TERMS, YOU KNOW, THE MARKET WILL SUPPORT IT AT THAT POINT. THIS IS A FIVE YEAR BOND.

AND SO, WE'LL DO THIS EACH TIME OVER THE PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS, WHENEVER A QUALIFIED PROJECT COMES TO US UNDER THE SCOPE OF THIS BOND PACKAGE THAT THE

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AND WE'RE NOT OBLIGATED TO SPEND UP TO $30 MILLION.

WE COULD SPEND $20 MILLION AND GET GRANTS FOR ANOTHER TEN FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

AND WE JUST HAVE TO SPEND WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE'RE INTENDING.

CORRECT. I WOULD THINK OF THIS AS AN OUTSIDE LIMIT IN TERMS OF THE BOND AUTHORIZATION.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF YOU HAVE OTHER MONIES, LIKE YOUR GRANT MONEYS COMING IN FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES, YOU CAN APPLY THOSE. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO MIX AND MATCH, SO TO SPEAK, AS IT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR YOU AT THE RIGHT TIME.

THANK YOU. YEP. OKAY. GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONTEXT TO THAT.

SO TYPICALLY, WE ISSUE DEBTS STARTING IN APRIL.

SO EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BUILD OUR WHOLE BUDGETS.

IT'S WE'RE GOING TO TELL YOU WHAT THINGS WE'RE BRINGING FORWARD IN THE BUDGET. INCLUDED IN THAT WOULD BE THINGS THAT WE'D WANT TO FUND WITH THESE GEOS. AND SO THE BUDGET WILL ALSO BE A TIME FOR THIS. AND SO WE'LL BRING FORWARD. AND THEN TYPICALLY WE ISSUE APRIL GOING OUT OFFICIALLY DOING IT IN JUNE SO THAT WE, IT'S KIND OF OUR BEST TIME PERIOD TO GET THE BEST RATES.

AND SO, WE'RE VERY STRATEGIC ABOUT WHEN WE ISSUE THIS. BUT WE WON'T JUST BE ASKING FOR DEBT EVERY COUPLE MONTHS.

AND SO, WE'LL BE VERY STRATEGIC AND TRY TO ACTUALLY FUNNEL THIS ALL AROUND ONE CERTAIN TIME OF YEAR, OR JUST SO THAT THERE'S NO IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE PLAYING A PLAYING A GAME OF JUST MOVING IT TO WIN.

OKAY. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? BECAUSE I THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT QUITE A BIT AT THIS POINT.

OKAY. SO IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS WE CAN GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO THAT.

ALL RIGHT I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF ITEM J ONE TO CALL A BOND ELECTION.

SECOND. OKAY. TERESA, YOU CAN TAKE THE ROLL.

. OKAY. J1 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AND THAT WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. THANK YOU, BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE. WE APPRECIATE Y'ALL. SO, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD TO OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

[Items J.2. - J.4. (Part 1 of 2)]

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST MEETING. WE WERE GOING TO CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION NOW.

SO, WE'LL OPEN UP J2, J3 AND J4 FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND LEXIN IS GOING TO START IT OFF.

MAYOR. POINT OF ORDER. IN OUR LAST MEETING, WE TABLED THIS ITEM TO GIVE THE RESIDENTS AND THE APPLICANT MORE TIME TO WORK ON SOME OF THE DETAILS AND THEN COME BACK. IT'S COME BACK. IT'S AT THE VERY NEXT MEETING WITH ONLY ONE MINOR CHANGE, WHICH IS UPPER WINDOWS ON TWO LOTS. BUT I'VE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE RESIDENTS.

THEY THINK THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE TIME. I IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT WE ASK THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESIDENTS TO DO OVER THIS PERIOD DIDN'T HAPPEN TO THE SUFFICIENT TO THE NEED. SO, I WOULD LIKE TO HONOR THE REQUEST OF THOSE RESIDENTS AND TABLE THIS TO A DATE CERTAIN WHICH WOULD BE OUR VERY NEXT MEETING, 2/17. WE DO WE DO HAVE THE DEVELOPER HERE AND THE LANDOWNER HERE.

SO, I MEAN, REGARDLESS OF WHERE IF WE'RE GOING TO TABLE IT, I DON'T WE MAY WANT TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION STILL SINCE THEY ARE HERE.

BUT YOU KNOW, COUNCIL WANTS TO TO GO AHEAD AND TABLE IT FROM THE GET GO.

BUT YOU GUYS NEED TO DISCUSS THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS ACCOMPLISHED AND WHAT WAS DISCUSSED AND WHAT, IF ANYTHING, MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE CHANGED IN TWO WEEKS.

IF NOTHING CAN BE CHANGED IN TWO WEEKS, THEN I DON'T WANT TO DELAY IT ANY FURTHER.

BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR WE DO HAVE A LOT OF RESIDENTS HERE.

AND AGAIN, IF WE DECIDE TO TABLE IT, WE CAN YOU KNOW, THAT CAN BE A DISCUSSION POINT.

I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS SPEAK ON EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, AND THEN WE HAVE THE DEVELOPER AND THE LANDOWNER HERE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S GOING TO BE TABLED AMONGST YOU ALL.

SO, MAYOR, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, A LENGTHY PRESENTATION FROM LEXIN THE LAST TIME.

BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THAT WHOLE EXERCISE AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD JUST DETERMINE IF WE THINK TABLING THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY JUST FOR EFFICIENCY AND TO NOT WASTE EVERYONE'S TIME BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DRAG PEOPLE OUT A THIRD TIME.

WELL, THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S. SIR. I DON'T THINK IT'S A WASTE OF TIME TO HERE, SO WE CAN TRUNCATE SOME OF WHAT LEXIN'S PRESENTATION IS UNLESS WE HAVE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS AGAIN. BUT I THINK THIS IS NEW INFORMATION TO HEAR AGAIN FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND THE DEVELOPER TO SEE WHAT THEY DISCUSSED.

THAT'S NEW. I THINK LEXIN YOU PRESENTED LAST TIME ON THIS.

SO, WE COULD KIND OF DO A SHORTER VERSION OF IT, JUST SKIM THROUGH.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOUR PLAN WAS, IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF IT, NOT GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY DONE THAT ON THE LAST MEETING. WE COULD KIND OF MAKE THAT CONDENSED AND THEN WE COULD DO THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

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OKAY. SO, LEXIN, THANK YOU. MAYOR. COUNCIL? YES.

I WAS JUST GOING TO QUICKLY HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS SINCE Y'ALL HEARD ABOUT IT AT THE LAST MEETING.

THIS IS A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT REQUEST, A ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

LAND USE IS CURRENTLY LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.

THE ZONING IS CURRENTLY PD 167 WITH AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT USES AND A NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY.

HERE'S THE MASTER PLAN EXHIBIT. AGAIN, LOW DENSITY IS WHAT'S CURRENT.

WHAT'S PROPOSED IS MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL, WHICH HAS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 7500FT².

THIS WAS THE PREVIOUS CONCEPT PLAN THAT WENT TO P&Z, IT HAD 15 LOTS AND 7500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM.

NEW VERSION HAS 14 LOTS AND AN 8000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE.

HERE ARE JUST TO SHOW THE MODIFICATIONS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT THE EXISTING ZONING SF FIVE MINIMUMS. SF TEN MINIMUMS. THE PROPOSED PD STANDARDS BASED ON SF FIVE AT P AND Z, AND THEN THE CURRENT PROPOSED PD STANDARDS. AND THEN I ADDED TO HERE JUST A NOTE THAT AT THE REQUEST OF THE GREAT GRACE PARK RESIDENTS, THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO ADD THE FOLLOWING STANDARD TO THE PD ORDINANCE FOR LOTS LABELED AS NUMBERS FIVE AND SIX ON EXHIBIT C, WINDOWS, LOCATED ON THE WEST FACADE OF A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING ABOVE A FIRST FLOOR ARE PROHIBITED.

SO THAT IS THE CHANGE THAT'S ALREADY REFLECTED IN THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS WITHIN THE PACKET.

AND IF I HAVE THIS JUST AS A REFERENCE. SO IF THERE IS ANY FUTURE DISCUSSION AND YOU'LL WANT TO LOOK AT KIND OF WHAT ANY OF THESE STANDARDS ARE.

WE CAN GO BACK TO IT. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION REQUEST FOR A DRY DETENTION POND THAT'S PART OF THIS.

ALSO, AN EXCEPTION FOR DRIVEWAY SPACING, ALTHOUGH AGAIN, WHAT'S PROPOSED IS MOVING MORE INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE STANDARD.

AND THEN FOR THE SUBDIVISION PERIMETER FENCE TO BE CONSTRUCTED OF AT LEAST A PORTION OF IT TO BE BOARD ON BOARD FENCING RATHER THAN MASONRY.

SOME PHOTOS OF THE SITE LOOKING SOUTH, LOOKING EAST.

LOOKING NORTH FROM THE PROPERTY AND THEN LOOKING WEST ACROSS THE WAY TO GRACE PARK.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S THAT REVISED CONCEPTUAL PLAN.

THIS IS THE EXISTING APPROVED SITE PLAN FOR THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.

REVISED CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN. DOES IT GO BEFORE TWO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS? EC HAD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF SEVEN OF THE TREES.

THEY WANTED TO SAVE ONE OF THE SPECIMEN TREES AT THE FRONT OF THE LOT.

AND THE APPLICANT DID REVISE THE PLANS TO SAVE THAT ADDITIONAL TREE.

ALSO, THE PARKS BOARD RECOMMENDED FEES IN LIEU OF PARKLAND DEDICATION OF $100,800 AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES OF $20,820. HERE'S THAT TREE SURVEY NOTING THAT IN RED ARE THE SPECIMEN TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR REMOVAL.

THE ONES IN GREEN ARE THOSE SPECIMEN TREES THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE SAVED.

SO ONE LAST TIME WITH THE CONCEPT PLAN AND THE CAPTIONS, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NOTHING. I THINK JUST TO SUMMARIZE THE CHANGES FROM LAST TIME, IT'S ONLY THE WINDOWS ON LOT FIVE AND SIX. THAT'S CORRECT.

THANK YOU. OKAY. SO, WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU, LEXIN.

I APPRECIATE THAT. SO, THE APPLICANTS HERE SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY JEFF WESTCOTT.

AND I'LL HAVE YOU REPEAT YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

JEFF WESTCOTT 2336 FARRINGTON DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS.

I WILL OPEN THIS UP TO COUNCIL. I HAVE MET WITH GRACE PARK.

I UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO ASK FOR. WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THOSE PLANS WITH THEM DIRECTLY.

AND AS I MENTIONED LAST TIME WE WERE HERE, I AM OUT OF OPTIONS.

SO I SIMPLY ASK WHEN WE GO THROUGH THIS, I'VE SPENT 11 MONTHS ON THIS.

THERE'S BEEN OVER 100 BILLABLE HOURS SENT TO THIS PROJECT.

I'VE LOOKED AT 50 DIFFERENT ITERATIONS OF THIS PLAN.

I KNOW WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO. PLEASE DON'T PUNISH ME BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE END AND I'VE COME WITH MY MOST TRANSPARENT PROJECT, AND I'M AND I'M TRYING TO GET WHAT I CAN GET DONE, DONE.

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SO I UNDERSTAND ANY ISSUES OF TABLING, BUT THAT'S THAT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. SO I WOULD ASK IF IT'S A MORE FRUITFUL DISCUSSION.

I UNDERSTAND GRACE PARK HAS A PRESENTATION TO LET THEM SHARE DIRECTLY FROM THEM WHAT THEY'VE TOLD ME THEY NEED OR WHAT THEY WANT.

AND I CAN ADDRESS THOSE DIRECTLY AFTER THEY PRESENTED.

I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO GO ABOUT THIS, BUT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S Y'ALL'S CALL.

OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. OR I CAN GIVE MY PRESENTATION NOW.

LET'S GO AHEAD. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE YOU DO YOUR PRESENTATION.

OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO START WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENTS FROM LAST COUNCIL.

THERE WERE THREE MAJOR POINTS THAT I BELIEVE WAS MADE IN A COUPLE OF PUBLIC COMMENTS AGAINST OUR PLAN.

FIRST BEING THEY MOVED TO FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE OF LOWER DENSITY USES IN USES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

THERE ARE OVER 1500 HOMES. I SHOULDN'T SAY 15,000.

THERE ARE OVER 1500 HOMES WITH MEDIUM OR HIGH DENSITY SURROUNDING HERE. WE HAVE THREE TIMES THE REQUIRED OPEN SPACE ON THIS SITE, AND THE OVERALL GREEN SPACE IS MORE THAN ANY OTHER SF 15 DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE.

ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE OBVIOUSLY REZONING IT FROM A NURSING HOME, IT'S IMPROVED TO THAT POINT.

TREES LOVE MATURE TREES. I THINK MY PLAN SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.

THERE'S ALMOST 25 PROTECTED TREES HERE, INCLUDING FOUR SPECIMENS, TWO MAJOR POST OAKS ON THE FRONT, AND THEN ANY WORRY ABOUT VALUE DEGRADATION FROM PROPOSED DENSITY.

THE PROPOSED DENSITY ON SITE TODAY IS, OR THE APPROVED DENSITY ON SITE TODAY IS 15 UNITS PER ACRE.

OURS IS 3.3 HOMES PER ACRE. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO EXPLAIN THAT.

AS FAR AS VALUE CONCERNS, I BELIEVE GRACE PARK WILL COME UP AND AGREE WITH THIS. THIS IS ONE THING WE DID AGREE WITH. THEY DON'T WANT THE NURSING HOME, SO I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, BUT THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY MULTIPLE ISSUES WITH WHAT'S IN PLACE TODAY THAT CAUSES SEVERE VALUE CONCERNS FOR THE NEIGHBORS AT GRACE PARK.

I THINK THEY ALL AGREE, SO I'LL STAY OFF OF THAT.

AS FAR AS TIMING GOES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY FOUND OUT LATE.

I DID EVERYTHING I WAS REQUIRED TO DO BY THE TOWN.

THE ZONING SIGNS HAVE BEEN POSTED SINCE AUGUST OF 24.

I PAID TO SEND OUT NOTIFICATIONS IN SEPTEMBER, NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER, AND I'VE SPENT OVER FIVE HOURS WITH THEM IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS TRYING TO HELP UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS PROCESS IS AND WHAT I CAN AND CANNOT DO.

ON TOP OF THAT, ADAM SCHEER AND MIKE MOSS HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT AND THEY'VE LIVED ADJACENT TO THIS SITE, I THINK, SINCE THE MOBILE HOME PARK WAS THERE.

SO THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, THOSE THAT I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, HAVE EXPRESSED, I THINK, PRETTY STRONG SUPPORT FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.

AS FAR AS PRIVACY, EVERYBODY WORRIES ABOUT PRIVACY WHEN THERE'S A DEVELOPMENT NEXT TO NEXT TO YOU, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

GRACE PARK HAS SIX LOTS OF BUDDING REGENCY PARK AND THE SAME DISTANCE THAT WE HAVE.

SIX LOTS ABUTTING GRACE PARK. WE HAVE A 22 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN OUR HOME AND THEIR PROPERTY LINE.

THEY HAVE A 12 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THEIR HOME AND OUR PROPERTY LINE.

WE HAVE 35,000FT² OF OPEN SPACE AND OVER 20 MATURE TREES.

WE'RE NOT HAMPERING ANYTHING THAT'S GOING ON OR DOING ANYTHING MATERIALLY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE. THESE ARE JUST PICTURES SHOWING THE SIDE YARDS OF THE HOME, SO YOU CAN SEE THERE ARE NO WINDOWS, BUT GENERALLY NO WINDOWS FACING OUR PROPERTY BECAUSE THEY'RE SIDE YARDS.

THEY WERE BUILT TO ASSUME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE SOMETHING BUILT NEXT TO THEM.

AS FAR AS SETBACKS GO, I'VE ALREADY SAID IT. THERE'S A 12 FOOT SETBACK.

THEY DID THESE EYEBROW LOTS ON THIS SITE. THERE'S A 12 FOOT SETBACK TO OUR PROPERTY LINE.

WE'RE OFFERING 22 AND WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO MORE.

WE'RE ASKED TO BE. WE'RE ASKED TO ASKED TO BEING TO SHRINK THE HOMES, BUT THEN ASKED TO NOT BUILD CHEAP HOMES, THEN ASKED NOT TO DEGRADE VALUE WITH SMALLER HOMES.

THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN DO BEFORE YOU'RE JUST OUT OF OPTIONS.

YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS I THINK THERE'S ANOTHER REQUEST ABOUT TEN FOOT SIDE YARDS.

I REMOVED A WHOLE LOT, ASSUMING I COULD KEEP A 7.5FT SIDE YARD.

SO, I WENT FROM 15 TO 14, WENT FROM 7 TO 6 ABUTTING GRACE PARK BASED ON THAT ASSUMPTION.

SO AGAIN, GOING BACK TO MY EARLIER POINT, PLEASE DON'T PUNISH ME BECAUSE WE'RE AT THE END.

I'VE DONE A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK HERE. I'VE SACRIFICED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS TO GET TO THIS POINT.

I'M NOT COMING HERE WITH MY FIRST PRESENTATION, WHICH WAS A 30 HOME TOWN, 30 UNIT TOWNHOME.

I'M NOT COMING TO YOU WITH MY FIFTH ONE, WHICH WAS LIKE AN 18 UNIT SF5.

I'M COMING TO YOU WITH MY 50TH ONE. SO. AND THEN LASTLY, I KNOW THERE'S SOME TREE PLANTING.

I WILL ADD ONE MORE THING THAT I FOUND OUT TODAY THAT WE CAN TRY TO ADDRESS.

BUT AS FAR AS TREE PLANTING GOES AND TREE LIKE TREE CONCERNS, I MEAN, THIS IS GRACE PARKS PLAN FROM THE CITY WEBSITE.

THERE'S, I THINK, TWO SPECIMEN TREES ON THERE. THERE'S NO TREES AROUND THE DETENTION, YOU KNOW,

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AND THIS IS THE BACK END OF OUR SITE, WHERE I GUESS IT'S NEW CODE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REQUIRED TO BUILD A PLAN. I BELIEVE IT'S 18 TO 20 TREES IN THIS SOUTH LOT. THIS IS ALL PART OF OUR PLAN.

THAT WE'RE DOING THAT AGAIN IS, IN MY OPINION, IMPROVING FROM WHAT GRACE PARK HAS JUST DUE WEST.

AND THEN LASTLY, I KNOW THE BIG ONE IS THE FENCE.

SO IN A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES, I ACTUALLY SPENT ALL DAY LOOKING AT THIS FOR AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY WANT, THAT'S MAYBE SOMETHING WE CAN GIVE.

IT'S NOT IF YOU START ON THE SOUTH LOT X LOT ONE WHERE THAT THREE IS THEY BUILT A IT'S ROUGHLY FIVE FEET AT THAT POINT, AND IT GOES DOWN TO ABOUT A FOOT IN THE MIDDLE OF LOT FOUR.

THEY'VE BUILT A RETAINING WALL THAT THEIR SIX FOOT FENCE SITS ON TOP OF.

SO NOW YOU HAVE A RETAINING WALL WITH A SIX FOOT FENCE ON TOP OF IT.

THAT OBVIOUSLY SKINNIES DOWN AS IT GOES UPHILL TO THE POINT WHERE AFTER LOT FOUR THERE IS NO MORE RETAINING WALL.

THAT MEANS IF WE'RE TRYING TO AGREE TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT WALL ON TOP OF THAT, ON THE SOUTH END OF OUR SITE, IT WOULD BE 12 TO 14FT ABOVE OUR FINISHED GRADE BEFORE WE STARTED EVEN GRADING.

AND THEN THE LAST THING I WANT TO CALL OUT AS FAR AS ADDING ADDITIONAL PRIVACY, WE ARE SUBJECT TO OUR FINAL GRADING PLAN.

BUT NUMBER FIVE IS A 2 TO 3 FOOT RETAINING WALL THAT WE EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO GRADE BACK EAST AND ADD ANOTHER 2 TO 3FT WHAT'S ALREADY EXISTING, WHICH WOULD MAKE IT A BASICALLY EIGHT FEET FOR LOTS 4 OR 5 AND SIX LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE OF FACE A SIDE YARD THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY MUCH WINDOWS. AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW YOU WOULD MAKE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, GO TO 15FT AND NOT BE EGREGIOUS TO OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, ON TOP OF THE FACT THAT THERE WAS A SIX FOOT FENCE THERE WHEN WE GOT THERE.

THAT SIX FOOT FENCE HAS BEEN THERE FOR SIX MONTHS.

IT'S BRAND NEW. SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN EIGHT THEN, BUT IT'S NOT.

SO, TO ADDRESS A LOT OF WHAT THEY'VE SAID, WE CAN DO NO SECOND STORY WINDOWS IN LOTS FIVE AND SIX.

THAT WAS TO ADDRESS SOME PRIVACY CONCERNS, CONCERNS WITH MELVIN AND RAJESH, WHICH I FELT WERE FAIR.

THEY'VE ALSO ASKED US TO ADD TWO TREES IN THE BACKYARD.

I THINK CODE REQUIRES TWO FOR US ANYWAY. BUT WE CAN ADD ONE MORE TREE IN THE BACKYARD TO TRY TO HELP SOME OF THE PRIVACY AS WELL.

THOSE ARE THOSE ARE THINGS THAT AREN'T FUNCTIONALLY DIFFERENT TO WHAT I'VE ALREADY PLANNED.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ABLE TO GIVE AGAIN.

I MEAN, THE CONSENSUS ACROSS THIS WHOLE THING HAS BEEN THAT WE'RE GREATLY IMPROVING THE SITE, GREATLY IMPROVING THE SITE. WE'RE ACTUALLY FIXING A HUGE PROBLEM FOR THE GRACE PARK RESIDENTS THAT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY BOUGHT INTO.

I THINK LAST TUESDAY WE FOUND OUT THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A NURSING HOME ZONE NEXT TO THEM.

SO THAT VALUE, THAT VALUE DEGRADATION VERSUS WHAT I'M PROPOSING IS NIGHT AND DAY DIFFERENT.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS SOME CONCERNS WITH CHANGE AND THINGS THAT HAPPEN LIKE THAT.

AND YOU WANT TO PUSH FOR AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GET.

I'M TELLING YOU; I'M GIVING YOU AS MUCH AS I CAN GIVE. AND I'VE HAD A CONSENSUS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT WHAT I'M PROPOSING TO YOU IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO PROTECT THOSE RESIDENTS FROM ANY SORT OF VALUE DEGRADATION. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS PROPOSAL DOES, IS IT PROTECTS THEM WHETHER OR NOT IT GETS BUILT.

IT'S NOW REZONE. IT'S NO LONGER A NURSING HOME.

IF IT GETS DENIED, IT STAYS A NURSING HOME. FROM A ZONING PERSPECTIVE, THE PERSPECTIVE.

THE NEXT GUY WANTS TO LOOK AT BUYING THEIR HOME. IF HE DOES HIS RESEARCH, HE UNDERSTANDS THERE'S A NURSING HOME NEXT TO HIM IN THE INTERIM WHILE YOU WAIT.

SO THERE'S VALUE DEGRADATION. STARTING TODAY AND TRYING TO PUSH ME INTO A CORNER TO DO ANYTHING ELSE IS FRANKLY, JUST PLAYING CHICKEN WITH THE NURSING HOME, COMES OR NOT.

AND I JUST I HOPE THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND THAT I'M NOT LYING TO YOU.

I'M NOT TRYING TO PULL A FAST ONE. THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO.

AND I TRULY BELIEVE THIS IS PROTECTING THEM FROM A SERIOUS SITUATION THAT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF THEM KNEW ABOUT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JEFF. ALL RIGHT. SO AT THIS TIME, WE WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING OR ACTUALLY I'M SORRY. DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? FIRST OF ALL, FOR THE APPLICANT OKAY. OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

WE HAVE ADITI BANERJEE, AND SHE IS HAVING TIME DONATED TO HER.

A COUPLE PEOPLE HAVE DONATED THEIR TIME, AND BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS COMMENT, YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND COME FORWARD. SO YOU HAVE UP TO YOU HAVE UP TO NINE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

JUST MAKE SURE YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

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SO, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY WANTED TO THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR GUIDANCE OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS SINCE WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS. AND I ALSO WANTED TO THANK LEXIN AND HER STAFF AND JEFF AND THE CEO OF MAGNOLIA HERE, WHO HAVE SPENT TIME WITH US TO WORK THROUGH AND DISCUSS ABOUT THE SITUATION.

SO TODAY I'M HERE TO TALK ON BEHALF OF GRACE.

GRACE PARK AND THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF REPRESENTATION OF THE RESIDENTS ARE HERE.

IF YOU WILL, PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. I MEAN, THESE ARE OUR GRACE PARK RESIDENTS WHO HAVE COME HERE TO SUPPORT THE DISCUSSION.

SO GOING TO THE JUST MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE.

WE'LL START OFF WITH SOME CONTEXT. OUR REQUEST TO RESPECTED MEMBERS OF TOWN COUNCIL.

THE REASONS BEHIND OUR REQUEST. AND IN CONCLUSION, WHAT WE WANT TO SAY.

SO THE CONTEXT HERE IS THAT NONE OF THE HOMEOWNERS WANT THE NURSING HOME DEVELOPMENT.

WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. GRACE PARK HOMEOWNERS FEEL THAT THE PROCESS IS BEING RUSHED.

FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, LEAVING US WITH LIMITED TIME AND OPTIONS TO PROPERLY ASSESS THE IMPACT.

THIS HAS LEFT US WITH FEW OPTIONS TO LOOK AT.

WE BELIEVE THAT A MORE THOROUGH AND DELIBERATE APPROACH IS NECESSARY FOR US TO ENSURE THAT ALL OUR CONCERNS ARE ADEQUATELY INSURED.

THIRD THING IS THAT WE MET WITH THE DEVELOPER, JEFF, BUT WE WERE UNABLE TO REACH A SATISFACTORY COMPROMISE.

WE HAVE MADE EFFORTS OVER THE LAST TWO AND A HALF WEEKS.

WE HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF HOURS AMONG 20 RESIDENTS MEETING EVENINGS, WEEKENDS AND OTHER TIMES TO DISCUSS THIS AND BRING IN A SENSE OF URGENCY.

WE HAVE MET WITH CEO EDWARD SIDDIQA ON SITE. UNFORTUNATELY, OUR MEETINGS DID NOT RESULT IN SATISFACTORY COMPROMISE.

OUR CONCERN WITH DENSITY AND PRIVACY REMAINS UNRESOLVED, AND WE FEEL THAT OUR VOICES ARE NOT BEING FULLY ADDRESSED HERE.

WE ALSO FEEL THAT THE PLANNING THAT HAPPENED WAS NOT INCLUSIVE OF THE INPUTS FROM GRACE PARK.

GRACE PARK WITH ALL DUE REGARDS AND RESPECT, IT'S A TIMING ISSUE.

WE UNDERSTAND WE WERE NOT HERE WHEN ALL THIS PLANNING HAPPENED.

WE ARE NOW HERE AND WE ARE EXTENDING OUR ARMS. WE WANT TO WORK AND SEE HOW WE CAN BE A PART OF THIS PLANNING, AND IF CERTAIN COMPROMISES CAN BE MADE.

OUR REQUEST TO THE RESPECTED MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL ARE.

THE PINE HILL IS ZONED FOR HIGH FOR LOW DENSITY.

WE WOULD PREFER IT TO STAY LOW DENSITY, BUT WE CAN.

WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS HERE AND WE ARE ABLE TO COME TO A MEDIUM DENSITY.

I KNOW WHAT'S ON THE TABLE IS A MEDIUM HIGH WITH CERTAIN EXCEPTIONS.

AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUESTS FROM PRIVACY THAT REGARDING THE SETBACKS WINDOWS FENCE TREES THAT MY COLLEAGUE MELVIN WILL TALK ABOUT IN A MINUTE.

ZONING NEAR PROPOSED FINAL DEVELOPMENT RIGHT THERE.

A AS YOU SEE, IS THE PINE HILL. GRACE PARK IS AS OF 15.

THE AREA AROUND GRACE PARK IS AT SF 15 AND SFA, WHICH IS A STATE SO LOW DENSITY.

AND THEN FROM THERE WE ARE SUDDENLY GOING TO TRANSITION TO A MEDIUM HIGH AND THEN COMMERCIAL OFFICE SPACE.

THAT IS OUR CONCERN. OKAY. WE ALSO HEARD THAT THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FROM THE DEVELOPER TO BUILD LESS THAN 14 LOTS ON THIS 4.3 ACRE, WHAT HAVE YOU.

NOW, WE DID FIND SIMILAR TYPES OF DEVELOPMENTS I SHOW HERE IN GREEN GRACE PARK AND THREE RED DOTS, WHICH ARE THREE EXAMPLE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE.

WE HAVE FOUND OF SIMILAR SIZE ACREAGE AND OF SF10 OR LOW DENSITY DEVELOPMENT.

FIRST ONE BEING FOREST VISTA. IT'S SF TEN TOTAL LOTS, 12 LESS THAN, WHICH IS LESS THAN 14.

AND THIS IS ABOUT FOUR ACRES OR SO. SIMILAR TO PINE HILL.

THE SECOND ONE IS LIBERTY PARK, WHICH IS ALSO AROUND FOUR ACRE SF TEN TOTAL LOTS, NINE WHICH IS LESS THAN 14,

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AND, AND IT IS BEING DONE IN FLOWER MOUND TO PRESERVE SOME OF THE CHARACTER AND THE LOOK AND THE AND THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY WE HAVE HERE.

JUST DOING SOME COMPARISON. WE HAVE SF 15 HERE.

AND WE HAVE GRACE PARK HERE. SO IF YOU SEE GRACE PARK, OUR SIDES OF A PARTICULAR LOT, SIDE SPACING IS 20.

SO BETWEEN THE HOUSES THE DISTANCE IS 40. 40FT.

WHEREAS IN PINE HILL PROPOSAL IS SEVEN AND A HALF.

THAT MEANS BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES IT WILL BE 15FT.

15 IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN 40. SO THAT IS A CONCERN FOR US, AMONG A FEW OTHER THINGS LIKE 8000FT² VERSUS 15,000 WHERE WE'RE SITTING IN GRACE PARK.

WHAT WE REQUESTED WAS 10,000FT² LOT WITH DEPTH FRONT AS NEEDED BACK.

WE ARE REQUESTING 30FT FOR LOTS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX.

AND SIDE WE ARE REQUESTING TEN FEET FOR EACH.

EACH LOT. THESE ARE OUR REQUESTS. COUNCIL. AND IF WE ARE GIVEN A CHOICE HERE THAT, HEY, EITHER YOU HAVE A NURSING HOME OR A PINE HILL DEVELOPMENT, GUESS WHERE THAT PUTS US? ROCK AND A HARD PLACE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE UP AGAINST.

OKAY, SO WE WILL BUILD ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS ON PRIVACY.

IF YOU ARE, IF YOU ALLOW ME, I WILL INVITE MY NEIGHBOR MELVIN TO SPEAK ON THAT FOR JUST A MINUTE.

DON'T FORGET TO STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE. GOOD EVENING.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, MAYOR AND FELLOW RESIDENTS MYSELF, MELVIN STEPHAN.

I LIVE IN 3920 PEARL LANE FLOWER MOUND IN TEXAS.

PART OF THE GRACE PARK COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE HERE FOR THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE HAVE TO PRESENT OURSELVES ON OUR REQUEST.

I REALLY THANK THE DEVELOPER. THE BILL. SORRY.

THE OWNER OF THE LAND AND EVERYBODY HERE TRYING TO MAKE THIS PROPERTY A REALLY SEAMLESS TRANSITION BETWEEN WHAT WE WANT AND WHERE WE ARE PROCEEDING TO. I THINK HE HAS TALKED ABOUT THE DENSITY PART OF THE PIECE, AND WE ARE TO COVER THE PRIVACY PIECE OF THINGS.

I SHARE THE FENCE RIGHT NEXT TO X LOT ONE AND FIVE AND SIX.

SO I HAVE A DIRECT IMPLICATION ON PRIVACY. THAT'S WHY I CAME FORWARD TO TALK ABOUT THESE.

RIGHT. SO OUR PRIMARY CONCERN IS WE HAVE A BACKYARD BETWEEN LOTS FOUR, FIVE AND SIX, WHICH ARE RIGHT 22FT FROM OUR BACKYARDS.

RIGHT. WHEN I GO INTO MY BACKYARD AND RIGHT CF HOUSE, I WANT THEM TO HAVE SPACE.

I MYSELF TO HAVE SPACE. AND WE WANT TO RESPECT EACH OTHER, TO HAVE A NICE LIFE.

SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE REQUESTING FOR FOUR, FIVE AND SIX TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER SETBACK SO THAT WE BOTH HAVE OUR SPACE AND HAVE A HAPPY LIFE THERE.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE US, AS RESIDENTS OF GRACE PARK AND THE NEW RESIDENTS HAVE BOTH AN ENJOYABLE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.

SO WITH CONTINUATION TO THAT, WE WANT TO HAVE TRYING TO HAVE NO WINDOWS FACING WEST, AND THE BUILDER HAS GRACIOUSLY AGREED FOR FIVE AND SIX WHAT OUR REQUEST IS.

CAN YOU MAKE SURE ALL OF THE LOTS 1 TO 4, ALSO FOLLOW THE SAME? TO SEE THAT IF SOMEBODY IS ON THEIR FRONT YARD OR ON PLAYING ON THE CUL-DE-SAC OR WHATEVER TO HAVE SUCH SPACES.

SO THAT'S THE REQUEST. NUMBER TWO BUILDER DID TALK ABOUT OUR REQUEST.

WE WANT TO SEE TO HAVE A EIGHT FOOT FENCE. WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THE POLES.

WE WANT TO HAVE AN ESTHETICALLY PLEASING LOOK FOR BOTH OF THE CURRENT AND THE NEW RESIDENTS.

AND I WOULD WANT TO SEE IF THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

AND WE ARE REQUESTING THAT THAT WOULD HELP US MORE THAN HAPPY TO HAVE THAT PRIVACY THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

ADDITIONALLY, WHAT WE ARE ALSO ASKING IS TO PLANT IN A FREEZE ON THE BACKYARD OF THOSE LOTS 1 TO 6 TO MAKE SURE WE CAN CREATE A TREE FENCE OR A GREEN SPACE WHICH CAN HELP US HAVING A NATURAL PRIVACY AREA.

THIS WILL BE ESTHETICALLY PLEASING AS WELL, AS IT WILL HELP US TO HAVE OUR MUTUAL RESIDENTS TO BE USING THE SPACE.

SO THAT'S. OH SORRY, I GOT IT. SO THE FINAL THING THAT WE ALSO WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS HAVING MORE TREES ON THE LOT, SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO KEEP THAT GREEN SPACE.

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BUT I COULD BE WRONG, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT GREEN SPACE IS THERE AND SOME ELECTRIC POLES THAT COULD BE REMOVED AND GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONCLUDE HERE.

LET ME JUST TAKE TWO SECONDS TO CONCLUDE HERE? ACTUALLY, YOUR TIME IS UP, MA'AM. IS IT? YEAH.

SO, JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE, WHEN PEOPLE COME UP HERE TO MAKE THEIR COMMENT WHEN YOU HAVE DEDICATED TIME GIVEN TO YOU THAT IS SPECIFICALLY GIVEN TO YOU, SO YOU CAN'T CALL PEOPLE IN OUT OF ORDER. WE ALLOWED THAT TODAY.

BUT JUST FOR FUTURE REFERENCE. SO YOU KNOW. OKAY.

YEAH. NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS.

RIGHT. IS THAT IT? OKAY. WOULD ANYBODY IN THE CROWD LIKE TO FILL OUT A CARD AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT? GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

AND THEN COUNCIL, IF YOU ALL WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AGAIN FOR LEXIN. SO I'M HOPING YOU CAN HELP ME FIGURE OUT BECAUSE I HEARD SOME CONFLICTING INFORMATION.

SO IN MR. WESTCOTT'S PRESENTATION, HE SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED THE BUFFER ZONE, THE REAR SETBACK IN GRACE PARK AS BEING 12FT.

SO AND THEY MENTIONED IT WAS 40FT IN THEIR SLIDE, WHICH THOSE TWO THINGS ARE NOT THE SAME.

SO I WOULD JUST LIKE SOME VERIFICATION ON WHICH OR WHAT IT IS.

SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING IS 12FT IS THE MINIMUM SIDE SETBACK FOR SF 15.

AND THIS IS A STRAIGHT ZONED SF 15 PROPERTY. SO THAT IS THAT IS WHAT CAN BE BUILT UP TO NOW.

I THINK THE RESIDENTS WERE SAYING THAT THAT HOW IT WAS ACTUALLY DEVELOPED IS THAT THE HOUSE WAS BUILT 20FT FROM THE SIDES.

I CAN'T CONFIRM THAT, BUT NOT 40. WELL, I THINK THEY WERE SAYING WHEN YOU ADD TWO TOGETHER IT WOULD BE 40 TOTAL BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES, I BELIEVE. YEAH. IN THE BACK. YEAH. I THINK IN THE CHART THEY SAID THEIRS WAS 40 AND THIS ONE WAS 22.

BUT SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS THE EXISTING GRACE PARK LOTS.

THOSE CORNER KEYSTONE WHATEVER. WHAT ARE THEY CALLED.

OH, OOPS. THOSE SIDE WAY HOUSES I CALL THEM EYEBROW LOTS.

EYEBROW LOTS. SO WHAT IS THE ACTUAL SETBACK ON THE EYEBROW? LOTS OF GRACE PARK. SO THE SIDE SETBACK RIGHT HERE IS 12FT BETWEEN THIS BUILDING AND THE PROPERTY LINE BETWEEN WHATEVER HOUSE IT IS.

12FT, NOT 40FT. IT'S NOT 40FT. OKAY. AND NOW, LIKE I SAID AGAIN, I THINK THEY ARE SAYING THAT THE HOUSE WAS ACTUALLY BUILT MORE LIKE 20FT AWAY. BUT THAT'S NOT THE STANDARD. SO IF SOMEBODY EVER WANTED TO EXPAND THE HOME, THEY COULD DO IT UP UNTIL THAT 12 FOOT LINE, THE ACTUAL SETBACK STANDARD IS 12FT. SO AND THEN I THINK THEY WERE SAYING 40FT MORE FOR THESE LOTS OVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET, THAT IF YOU ADDED THOSE TWO TOGETHER, IT WOULD BE 40FT BETWEEN THE HOUSE.

BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY WHERE THE PROBLEM LIES. SO IF WE HAVE 12FT ON THE GRACE PARK SIDE AND 22FT, THAT'S 34FT. SO THAT'S CLOSE TO 40FT DIFFERENCE.

AND IT PROBABLY COULD BE MORE IF I'M HEARING CORRECTLY, BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE HOUSE IS ON IN THE GRACE PARK DEVELOPMENT ARE ACTUALLY BUILT UP TO THAT 12FT. THEY COULD BE FARTHER AWAY FROM THAT.

SO WE VERY EASILY COULD ALREADY BE ACHIEVING THAT 40FT OF SEPARATION.

CORRECT? YES. OKAY. PERFECT. AND THEN THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT, AND I THINK THIS WAS IN THEIR PRESENTATION AS WELL, THE ZONING ON PD 72, WHICH IS THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THE EAST, IS OFFICE, SO IT'S A COMMERCIAL ZONING RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S CORRECT. AND HISTORICALLY, THROUGHOUT OUR ZONING DECISIONS, HAVE WE NOT ALSO TRIED TO ACHIEVE KIND OF A GENTLER, MORE GENTLE TRANSITION FROM, SAY, COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.

SO EVEN THOUGH SOME OF THE PROPERTIES WERE SHOWN ON SOME OF THE SLIDES, THAT THESE F-15S DO EXIST ON A SMALL LOT.

YOU KNOW, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY THAT THAT WAS THE PD 72 WAS COMMERCIAL COMPLETELY.

AND RIGHT NOW, AS CURRENTLY ZONED ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

THE A 173 IS ALSO A COMMERCIAL RIGHT NOW. SO THIS OKAY SO WE'RE A BUFFER WOULD BE GOOD.

AND THE LAST THING I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT LEXIN I AM GOING TO RECALL MEMORY AND HOPEFULLY YOURS WILL BE THE SAME AS MINE.

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AS THEY PRESENTED TO COUNCIL THAT NIGHT. MY RECOLLECTION IS THEY WERE NOT THERE TO MAKE MONEY AS A DEVELOPER AND REALLY PUSH THE BOUNDARIES OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY COULD BE PROFITABLE AND GET A GOOD PRODUCT, BUT THEY WERE DEVELOPING THAT AS A FAMILY COMPOUND, SO TO SPEAK.

DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? DOES ANYONE REMEMBER THAT? I MET WITH THE SETHI'S AND THEY WANTED A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TO SF TEN, AND THEY DIDN'T GET IT, BUT THEY DID SAY THEY WANTED TO HAVE IT AS THEIR FAMILY DEVELOPMENT.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. THEY DEFINITELY WANTED SF TEN AT ONE POINT.

OKAY. BUT THEY DIDN'T GET IT. BUT THEY WANTED TO.

THEY WEREN'T IN IT TO MAKE MONEY. IT WAS MY RECOLLECTION. THEY WERE IN IT TO HAVE A FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO TO ME THAT'S A DIFFERENT INTENTION OF THE PROPERTY AND DIFFERENT CONSTRAINTS THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON THEM, BECAUSE THEY COULD HAVE TWO PROPERTIES. THEY IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SELL IT, THEY JUST WANT TO BUILD FOR THEIR FAMILY. DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER THAT? OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED YOU FOR. THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH. LEXIN. BEFORE YOU GO. LEXIN, CAN YOU JUST COMMENT ON THE POWER LINES? BECAUSE I DIDN'T SEE AN EXCEPTION REQUEST IN THERE. THE POWER LINES ARE GOING TO BE REQUIRED TO BE BURIED AND THE THE APPLICANT IS AWARE OF THAT IN IN AGREEMENT WITH THOSE LINES WOULD BE BURIED.

THANK YOU. SO YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT IF THAT WAS A CONDITION OR A STANDARD THAT COUNCIL WANTED TO PUT IN.

THE PD CERTAINLY COULD DO THAT, BUT IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND LEXIN SORRY. BEFORE YOU LEAVE, ONE MORE THING.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT THE HERE ALL NIGHT. SO ON THE X LOT LOTS FIVE AND SIX I BELIEVE THERE'S A EXISTING RETAINING WALL AND THEN A SIX FOOT FENCE ON TOP. YES. THE CURRENT RESIDENCE ON THE WEST ARE REQUESTING AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE ALONG THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF THE PROPERTY.

IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT DOESN'T SEEM REASONABLE TO DO THAT ON THE SOUTH SIDE, BUT ON THE NORTH SIDE, IF THE EXISTING OWNERS AND IN GRACE PARK WANTED TO INSTALL AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, THEY COULD DO THAT AND WORK THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITH THE TOWN.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES. AND THAT WAY IT COULD BE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, AND NOT SOMETHING WHERE IT'S ON TOP OF A 6 FOOT OR 4 FOOT RETAINING WALL, WHERE PROBABLY WON'T BE NEEDED. YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO WHAT? FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. WHAT ARE THE SETBACKS RIGHT NOW? WHAT WERE THE. WHAT'S PROPOSED IS 22FT FOR THE REAR SETBACK.

YEAH. AND THE RESIDENTS WERE REQUESTING 30 FOOT.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO IF WE WERE TO WHAT ARE THE FRONT? FRONT SETBACKS FROM THE ROAD? THE FRONT SETBACKS ARE 20FT, 20 FOOT.

SO IF WE MOVED THEM UP FIVE FOOT, WE COULD POTENTIALLY GRANT AN EXCEPTION TO DO THAT.

YOU COULD YOU COULD MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF THIS PD TO REDUCE THE FRONT SETBACK.

THE THE ONLY CONCERN WOULD BE THAT THAT WOULD REDUCE THAT DRIVEWAY SIZE FOR LESS THAN WHAT WE KIND OF NORMALLY ESTABLISH FOR A STANDARD VEHICLE OF 20FT. OKAY. AND THOSE ARE KIND OF AT THE MINIMUM TO ALLOW FOR ONE VEHICLE RIGHT NOW.

THAT'S OUR NORMAL STANDARD. I MEAN, I GUESS A PARKING SPACES IS 18FT, SO I GUESS YOU COULD DO 18FT INSTEAD OF 20.

WE, LIKE I SAID, 20 IS WHAT WE TYPICALLY ALLOW FOR A DRIVEWAY.

YEAH. AND THEN THE CARS GET INTO THE SIDEWALK. YEAH.

OKAY. LEXIN WASN'T THERE AN EARLIER DISCUSSION? MAYBE IT WAS A DIFFERENT DEVELOPMENT ABOUT ALLOWING ENCROACHMENT INTO THE FRONT SETBACK FOR THINGS LIKE PORCHES AND ENTRYWAYS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

THAT WAS AN ORIGINAL PART OF THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST.

THEY TOOK THAT OFF IN BETWEEN P AND Z AND COUNCIL.

OKAY. BUT THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE BACK ON THE TABLE IF THERE WAS SOME ROOM FOR COMPROMISE ON REAR SETBACKS.

PERHAPS FRONT SETBACKS COULD ALLOW THAT TO COME BACK.

POTENTIALLY IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU AND THE APPLICANT COULD.

OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. LEXIN. ALL RIGHT. COUNCIL, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO? SO THE THERE WERE SOME THINGS, OBVIOUSLY, THAT THE RESIDENTS ASKED FOR, THAT THERE'S NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST.

WE CANNOT GO TO SF TEN. THAT'S CLEAR. IT'S. IT'S 8000 SQUARE FOOT.

TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT. BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS BROUGHT UP THAT DO SEEM LIKE THEY'RE OPEN TO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

TREE PLANTINGS, FENCE STANDARDS IS CERTAINLY A GOOD TOPIC.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT SOME LOTS COULD GET AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE AND SOME IT MAY NOT BE SO APPROPRIATE. I JUST DON'T THINK.

AND SO MY MY SENSE IS IF WE GIVE THESE RESIDENTS AND THIS APPLICANT TWO MORE WEEKS, THIS IS GOING TO GET APPROVED.

IF WE TRY TO DO IT TONIGHT FROM HERE, IT MAY NOT.

SO I THINK THERE'S VALUE TO THE APPLICANT, TO THE RESIDENTS AND TO US TO GO AHEAD AND GIVE THEM THAT EXTRA BIT OF TIME TO SORT OUT THE DETAILS, NOT THE BIG ITEMS. IT'S NOT GOING TO BE GOING REDUCING THE NUMBER OF LOTS, MOST LIKELY.

BUT I DO THINK THAT SETBACKS, FENCE STANDARDS, TREE PLANTINGS ARE ALL THINGS THAT CAN BE RESOLVED TO EVERYONE'S SATISFACTION.

WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, WE RUSHED IT BACK, AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE GIVEN IT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS BEFORE IT CAME FORWARD.

I'M ON BOARD WITH THAT. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE.

11 MONTHS IS NOT RUSHING IT. AND THE THE SIGNS WERE POSTED ON THE PROPERTY IN AUGUST OF 24,

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THE APPLICANT AND I WILL SAY THIS IS NOT ANYTHING LIKE THE FIRST MEETING I HAD WITH THE APPLICANT.

HE IS TRUE TO HIS WORD WHEN HE SAYS HE WENT OVER IT AND CHANGED IT AND CHANGED IT AND CHANGED IT AND CHANGE IT.

AND I WILL SAY IN MY EXPERIENCE ON COUNCIL, THAT IS UNUSUAL.

A DEVELOPER MAY BE OPEN TO INPUT. THEY MAY CHANGE 1 OR 2 THINGS, BUT THE NUMBER OF TIMES AND THE NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED IS VERY UNUSUAL.

AND I THINK THAT SHOWS THAT HE IS COMING IN GOOD FAITH.

I WILL SAY, ASKING THEM FOR SO MUCH OF A SETBACK WHEN YOUR PROPERTIES HAVE ALMOST HALF THE SETBACK THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO HAVE.

IS, IN MY OPINION, NOT REALLY REASONABLE. I THINK WE'VE TACKLED THE TREE ISSUE AND THEY HAVE COME SAYING THEY ARE WILLING TO PLANT THE BIGGER TREES.

AND I THINK IF WE COULD GET A FIRM COMMITMENT ON THE TREES, WHICH COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL YOU WERE MENTIONING AS ONE OF THE ITEMS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE RESOLVED, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO RESOLVE RIGHT NOW.

THE FENCE ISSUE, I THINK WE CAN ALSO RESOLVE RIGHT NOW, AND I UNDERSTAND ABOUT WANTING TO NOT HAVE THE POLES ON YOUR SIDE, BECAUSE I HAVE A NEIGHBOR AND THEY DIDN'T WANT THE POLES ON THEIR SIDE EITHER.

SO I TOOK THEM, I CAPPED THEM, AND GUESS WHAT? I THINK THEY LOOK REALLY NICE. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

SO IF WE CAN COME TO THAT AGREEMENT AND YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, CAP THE POLES FOR YOUR DEVELOPMENT AND ALLOW THEM TO HAVE THE NICE SIDE OF THE FENCE. THAT MIGHT BE ANOTHER THING WE CAN RESOLVE RIGHT NOW.

I JUST DON'T SEE THE VALUE OF DELAYING IT ANOTHER TWO WEEKS AND MAKING EVERYBODY COME BACK WHEN CLEARLY BOTH SIDES HAVE PRESENTED WHAT THEY CAN DO.

I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE THING, AND I DO BELIEVE A COMPROMISE HAS BEEN REACHED TO THE BEST OF BOTH NEIGHBORS ABILITIES.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY REALISTIC THAT A NURSING HOME, WHICH IS ALREADY RIGHT NOW ALLOWED BY RIGHT, HAS A VERY HIGH PROBABILITY OF COMING. I DON'T SEE THE SF 15 COMING REALISTICALLY.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. I'D LIKE TO GIVE THE APPLICANT AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TREE REQUEST AND THE FENCING.

HE'S ALREADY MADE A WONDERFUL CONCESSION TO TAKE AWAY THOSE WINDOWS.

SO I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT IN AND OF ITSELF IS ACTUALLY YOU WILL NOT HAVE PEOPLE ON THE SECOND FLOOR LOOKING INTO YOUR YARD BECAUSE THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO.

IT WILL BE A WALL THERE. SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE HIM BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD AND ALLAY YOUR FEARS ON THE TREES AND THE FENCE, AND THEN I THINK WE CAN MAKE A COMPROMISE THAT'S DOABLE AND BETTER FOR THE TOWN AND THE RESIDENTS.

WE CAN OPEN THIS UP FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME.

I'D LIKE THE OTHER TWO COUNCIL MEMBERS TO WEIGH IN ON TABLING.

SO WE HAVE TWO. BUT LET'S GO AHEAD AND LET THE APPLICANT COME BACK.

OKAY. HANG ON THEN I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION. WELL LET THEM.

NO NO NO NO. I'LL MAKE A MOTION. NO. WE CAN TABLE IT IF YOU GUYS DECIDE TO.

BUT LET THE APPLICANT COME HAVE THE CONVERSATION ABOUT TABLING.

AND IF THEY DON'T, IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO TABLE IT, THEN I'M FINE WITH THAT, BUT I'D RATHER JUST FINISH THAT.

I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT. I THINK ANNE MADE A VERY GOOD POINT.

AND THOSE ARE THE EXACT TWO THINGS I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT. THE TREES AND THE FENCE, ELECTRICAL LINES.

THAT WAS AN ASK FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.

THE DENSITY IS, I THINK WE ALL CAN AGREE, IS IT IS WHAT IT IS.

AND IT'S ACTUALLY THE BEST USE OF THIS LAND, PRESERVING THE OPEN SPACE AND THE TREES. SO THOSE ARE REALLY THE TWO MAIN THINGS REMAINING OTHER THAN THE SETBACK, WHICH IS ANNE KIND OF ADDRESSED A MINUTE AGO.

SO I THINK IF WE HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT ON WHAT COMPROMISES OR WHAT AGREEMENTS CAN BE MADE ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE. COUNCIL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I'M GOING TO WAIT A MINUTE. I'M GOING TO LET THE APPLICANT COME ON UP HERE. YOU ALL.

I'M GOING TO WAIT. I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION.

YEAH. SO I'M GOING TO MAKE TO MAKE A, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS. OKAY. YEAH. LET'S THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR. THANK YOU. LET'S GO AHEAD AND HAVE THE APPLICANT COME UP AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE.

YOU GUYS CAN DECIDE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. SORRY, I MADE MAYBE GLOSSED OVER THIS ON MY FIRST ONE.

SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE ADDING TWO, TWO AND A HALF TO THREE INCH PLANTED TREES IN THE REAR YARDS OF EVERYTHING ON THE WEST SIDE.

SO LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX. WE CAN PLANT TWO TREES, TWO AND A HALF TO THREE INCHES, WHICH ARE YOUR STANDARD SIZE PLANTABLE TREES.

YOU START GETTING ANYTHING BIGGER THAN THAT. THEY RISK DYING. THERE'S NO SENSE IN TRYING TO DO ANYTHING MORE THAN THAT.

AS FAR AS THE FENCE GOES. SO WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT CREATING IT, ESSENTIALLY ASSURING THAT IT'S EIGHT FEET ABOVE OUR BOTTOM, OUR BOTTOM LEVEL LINE. SO WHERE OUR YARD STARTS, THE TOP OF THEIR FENCE IS AT LEAST EIGHT FEET ABOVE THAT.

NOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT? AND WHAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS ON LOTS ON THE X LOT THROUGH LOT FOUR, YOU KNOW IT'S AT THIS LEVEL, BUT THE YARD IS COMING UP BELOW IT.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A STEP UP IN THAT FENCE TO GET LOTS FOUR THROUGH ONE, UP TO AN EIGHT FOOT TALL FENCE.

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I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD TOWN. I DON'T THINK THAT'S GENERALLY A THING THE TOWN LIKES TO HAVE IS A STEP UP IN A SHARED FENCE LINE, BUT WE CAN DO THAT ON THE LOTS. I DON'T WANT TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WHERE THE X LOT IS.

I DON'T THINK THAT NEIGHBOR WANTS ME TO BUILD AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE WHERE THE X LOT IS.

THOSE ARE VERY BIG, PRETTY TREES THERE. I WOULD THINK YOU'D WANT TO SEE THEM.

BUT AS FAR AS LOTS ONE THROUGH FOUR OR BASICALLY ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T GET TO EIGHT FEET FROM OUR BOTTOM LINE, WE COULD DO THAT. IF WE'RE IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH HAVING A STEP UP IN THE FENCE, BECAUSE I CAN'T BUILD EIGHT FOOT ON TOP OF THAT WALL ALL THE WAY DOWN, IT JUST WOULD LOOK TERRIBLE, MR. WESTCOTT. JUST JUST SO YOU CAN SAY IT OUT LOUD.

WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WITH TABLING THAT FROM YOUR STANDPOINT? BECAUSE I KNOW RESIDENTS WANT SOME MORE TIME AND IT'S JUST TWO MORE WEEKS.

IT'S BEEN 11 MONTHS. NOTHING'S GOING TO CHANGE IN TWO WEEKS.

I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY'RE HERE. I JUST RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU GIVE ME A DECISION.

IT'S SO MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT'S IN PLACE. THERE'S SO MUCH WORK THAT'S BEEN INTO IT.

IF YOU DON'T WANT IT, YOU DON'T WANT IT. BUT I'VE SPENT 11 MONTHS ON THIS.

I'M TO THE POINT NOW WHERE THERE'S VERY LITTLE ECONOMIC INCENTIVE LEFT.

I KNOW THAT THE CURRENT LANDOWNER IS RUNNING OUT OF TIME AND, LIKE, HAS SENT EMAILS TO YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT HE WANTS TO DO AND WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH ME IN FRONT OF HIM. SO I WILL ALLOW THE LANDOWNER TO COME FORWARD IF HE WANTS TO COME.

IT'S UP TO YOU. THAT'S THAT'S UP TO YOU IF YOU WANT TO TALK.

ED SEDAKA. 3201 CARNES ROAD. FLOWER MOUND IS THE PROPERTY I OWN HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE THAT EACH OF YOU AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET EACH OF YOU YESTERDAY.

WE SPENT A COUPLE OF HOURS TOGETHER. UNFORTUNATELY, IT IS A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T SEE THIS PROJECT EVER COMING BACK TO THIS COUNCIL.

IT'S EITHER GOING TO BE TONIGHT TO APPROVE THE ZONING PROPOSAL THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY.

OR I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SKILLED NURSING HOME.

SO AT THIS POINT, OUR PLANS ARE DONE. OUR ENGINEERING IS DONE.

OUR OUR ARCHITECTURAL IS DONE. AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD, I ACTUALLY HAD MOVING EQUIPMENT ON THE GROUND ON MARCH 22ND, 2022. IF ANY OF YOU OF YOU REMEMBER? AND THE REASON WE DIDN'T MOVE FORWARD IS BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS WERE HAD SKYROCKETED AT THAT POINT AND THEY'VE COME DOWN.

SO I WOULD NOT BE AFRAID TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AT THIS POINT.

I DO SUPPORT MR. WESTCOTT PURCHASING THE PROPERTY AND MOVING FORWARD AND BUILDING THE HOMES, BECAUSE I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST USE OF THAT PROPERTY FOR FLOWER MOUND.

I DO OWN A PROPERTY IN FLOWER MOUND. I'M A GOOD CORPORATE CITIZEN.

IF I WAS GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER SKILLED NURSING OR ASSISTED LIVING, I THINK I'D GO OVER BY VALLEY CREEK CHURCH WHERE YOU HAVE THE TAX INCENTIVES.

AND THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES. YOU HAVE WATER MIRROR THERE. YOU HAVE ROSEWOOD. THERE'S OTHER PROPERTIES THAT, THAT ARE THAT WOULD IT WOULD BE A BETTER USE OF, OF THE PROPERTY.

AS FAR AS TABLING THIS, I WILL NOT BE HERE THE HERE THE WEEK OF THE 17TH.

I HAVE PROPERTIES IN MAINE. I WILL BE IN THE STATE OF MAINE THAT WEEK.

SO I WOULD BE UNABLE TO ATTEND. SO AS FAR AS TABLING GOES, I DON'T FEEL THAT TABLING THIS AND AND NO DISRESPECT TO YOU, MR. SCHISLER, WE HAVEN'T MET BEFORE.

I DON'T FEEL THAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT.

I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS AN EMOTIONAL THING ON BEHALF OF THE GRACE PARK RESIDENTS.

THEY BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT AWARE OF MY ZONING.

AND UNFORTUNATELY, THIS JUST COMES DOWN TO A BUSINESS DECISION AND A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE.

AND I THINK FOR THE COUNCIL YOU REALLY JUST HAVE TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT THE SKILLED NURSING TO BE BUILT OR IF YOU WANT THE THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THAT LOT. AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE WE'RE AT.

OKAY. UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. SEDAKA. I KNOW YOU DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO TALK OR.

CHRIS, DO YOU? DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS? NO, I MEAN, I JUST. COULD WE TABLE THIS TO THE 17TH AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND THEN WE CAN BRING IT BACK AND REREVIEW?

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I THINK THE TWO WEEKS IS JUST TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH THEM, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING WE CAN DO TO COMPROMISE WITH THE ROOM AND THEN BRING IT BACK.

I UNDERSTAND AND WHAT I'M TELLING YOU. LIKE I'VE SPENT 11 MONTHS COMPROMISING WITH A BUNCH OF OTHER PEOPLE.

I'VE SPENT FIVE HOURS WITH THEM. WE'VE DISCUSSED MULTIPLE DIFFERENT AVENUES.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT TWO WEEKS BUYS US. IF ANYTHING, IT JUST COST ME COST ME MORE MONEY TO GET TO A POINT WHERE I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF THIS IS GOING TO WORK OR NOT. I'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH MULTIPLE PEOPLE.

I'VE SAT DOWN WITH EVERY NEIGHBOR I CAN POSSIBLY SIT DOWN WITH NOW. AND I'M TELLING YOU, THIS IS WHAT I CAN DO. I'M SORRY.

I WISH I COULD TELL YOU I COULD PUT 30 FOOT SETBACKS ON THERE AND STILL MAKE THIS WORK AND DO IT, BUT I CAN'T. SO I'M SORRY. IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

COUNCIL. WELL, I'D LIKE TO SO I MY SENSE IS THAT IF YOU TAKE TWO MORE WEEKS YOU'RE GOING TO WORK OUT THE TREES, THE WEST FACING WINDOWS. EXACTLY. WHICH LOTS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S MORE THAT THEY WANTED ON THAN WHAT'S IN THERE TODAY. THERE'S GOING TO BE THE FENCE STANDARDS ARE GOING TO GET SORTED OUT.

THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME COMPROMISE ON REAR SETBACKS.

THAT'S NOT 30FT, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GOING TO RESULT IN SOME ALLOWANCES ON THE FRONT WITH THE ENTRYWAY THAT YOU HAD ASKED FOR ORIGINALLY AND THAT YOU'RE GOING TO COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND YOU'RE GOING TO GET APPROVED. BUT IF YOU FORCE A VOTE TONIGHT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO BE APPROVED. SO THAT'S WHY I DON'T THINK THAT WE, THE COUNCIL ARE THAT FAR APART. WE JUST NEED THE CONSENT OF THESE RESIDENTS BEFORE WE GRANT A MASTER PLAN.

IN TWO WEEKS WITH THE SAME PLAN, THEN I DON'T GET APPROVED THEN. WELL, IF YOU IF YOU COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND THEY SAY THAT WE COULDN'T EVEN AGREE ON TREE PLANTINGS AND FENCE, I AGREE. I THINK THAT THERE COULD BE A PROBLEM.

BUT IF YOU COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS AND YOU'VE WORKED OUT THOSE DETAILS WITH THEM, WHICH I THINK WILL HAPPEN BECAUSE I MET WITH THEM AND I DIDN'T FIND THEM TO BE PARTICULARLY UNREASONABLE. THEY DIDN'T SAY, WE WANT A DENIAL. THEY DIDN'T SAY SF TEN OR BUST.

THEY SAID, WE HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT OUR PRIVACY THAT WE THINK CAN BE WORKED OUT. AND THAT'S AND IT JUST WE JUST HAVEN'T HAD ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO GIVE YOU TIME TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE WITH THEIR CONSENT, I DON'T LIKE GRANTING MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, BUT WITH THEIR CONSENT, I'D BE WILLING TO DO THAT IN THIS CASE.

I TOLD YOU THAT I WOULD GO TO SF TEN, BUT I'M WILLING TO DO 8000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WHICH I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD PLAN, BUT NOT OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE NEIGHBORS.

AND YOU'RE VERY, VERY CLOSE TO GETTING THEIR BUY IN.

AND WHY NOT GIVE IT TWO MORE WEEKS? SO I JUST DON'T I JUST DON'T THINK YOU'RE GOING TO GET APPROVED TONIGHT IF YOU DON'T.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR. ARE WE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE APPLICANT OR THE NEIGHBORS COME BACK? AND I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THEM A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH. WE CAN OPEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN.

WE CAN DO THAT. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE. AS THE SPOKESPERSON.

WHO? THE DOCTOR. OH, YEAH. YEAH. HOLD ON, HOLD ON.

WE HAVEN'T OPENED THIS YET. YEAH, I MEAN, WHAT WHAT IS IT A BIG DEAL TO WAIT TWO WEEKS AND TO WORK THROUGH? ARE THESE MODIFICATIONS ARE THESE ARE THESE THINGS THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE ASKING FOR? ARE THESE DOABLE BECAUSE THEY SEEM PRETTY REASONABLE.

WHICH ONES ARE REASONABLE? EXACTLY. THAT'S THE PROBLEM.

WE HAVE AGREEMENT ON THE TREES. I'M ASKING YOU SOME OF THE SETBACKS.

THE FENCE WHICH I CAN DO. I CAN SEE SOME OF THE THE ELECTRICAL LINE.

WE HAVE TO WAIT ONE AT A TIME. ONE AT A TIME, ONE MORE TIME.

SO WHAT ARE THE THE PARAMETERS? WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TREE THAT RESIDENTS WANTED THE TREE'S TREES.

HE'S AGREED TO THE FENCE. HE'S AGREED TO ELECTRICAL LINES IS REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE SO THAT THE SETBACK, THE SETBACKS, THE SETBACKS, HE SAID. NO. AND SO WE HAVE SOME NEGOTIATION THAT HAS TO HAPPEN THERE, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A COMPROMISE WITH THE FRONT ENTRYWAY THAT COULD BE WORKED OUT BETWEEN THIS APPLICANT AND THOSE RESIDENTS. I DON'T THINK WE CAN DO IT TONIGHT. VOTE TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE. THE SETBACK IS NOT REASONABLE BECAUSE THEIR OWN NEIGHBORHOOD HAS A 12 FOOT SETBACK SIDE YARD.

SO HOW IS NO THE SIDE YARD IS SEVEN FEET. IT'S THE REAR SETBACK.

IT WAS 12FT FOR GRACE PARK. AND THEY'RE SAYING WELL THE OTHER ONE HAS TO HAVE 30.

THAT'S NOT REASONABLE. DO WE NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION? DO YOU ALL WANT TO DO CLOSED SESSION? I MEAN, IF THE APPLICANT CAN AGREE TO TABLE IT, THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH TABLING IT AND COME BACK IN TWO WEEKS WITH AN APPROVAL.

I HAD ASKED FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO COME FORWARD TO DISCUSS AND ANSWER QUESTIONS.

OKAY. MR. WESTCOTT, THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING.

OKAY. I'M GOING TO CLOSE THIS. WE'RE GOING TO OPEN IT UP TO PUBLIC HEARING.

MAYOR, I APOLOGIZE. YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.

IT'S THE COUNCIL'S PREROGATIVE TO INVITE WHOMEVER THEY CHOOSE TO SPEAK.

THANK YOU. YOU CAN LIMIT IT. GOOD TO KNOW. ALL RIGHT.

IS THERE ANYONE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? YEP, YEP. GO AHEAD AND SAY YOUR NAME AGAIN. ADITI BANERJEE.

SO, DOCTOR, MY QUESTIONS ARE YOU HAVE SAT VERY PATIENTLY AND LISTENED TO ALL OF US GIVE OUR OPINIONS AND OUR ASSESSMENTS.

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THEY'RE ALREADY EXCEEDING YOUR SETBACK BY ALMOST 50%.

AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING THEM TO CHANGE THEIR PROPERTY MORE.

AND YOURS IS ONLY 12FT. SO CAN I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE THAT THAT'S NOT AS REASONABLE AS SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU'RE LOOKING FOR? I THINK THE SETBACK IS IMPORTANT FOR US BECAUSE IT'S RIGHT OFF THE SIDE OF OUR HOMES TO HOMES, AND IT'S PRETTY MUCH YOU'LL BE SITTING IN EACH OTHER'S LIVING ROOM.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE WANT A LITTLE MORE SETBACK.

BUT YOUR SETBACK IS ONLY 12FT IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO WHY IS IT OKAY FOR YOU TO HAVE 12FT? AND THEY MUST HAVE MORE? THAT WAS THE QUESTION I ASKED LEXIN EARLIER ABOUT WHAT WAS THE REQUIRED SETBACK FOR GRACE PARK.

IT'S 12FT AND YOUR HOMES MAY NOT BE ALL THE WAY UP TO THE 12FT, BUT YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS ALLOWED THAT 12FT.

AND SO TO ASK SOMETHING SO FAR EXCEEDING NEXT DOOR TO ME DOES NOT SEEM REASONABLE.

OUR SITES ARE 20 ON EACH HOUSE. YOUR SIDE IS 20.

BUT I THOUGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE REAR SETBACK.

IS THAT NOT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? LEXIN. THE.

IT'S BECAUSE IT'S THE EYEBROW LOTS. IT'S ACTUALLY THEIR SIDE SETBACK.

THEIR SIDES BACK UP TO THE REAR OF THE THE PINE HILL LOTS.

SO OKAY. SO THAT IS AN UNUSUAL ARRANGEMENT AND ONE THAT IS NOT VERY COMMON IN OUR TOWN.

BUT WHEN THOSE HOMES WERE PURCHASED, YOU KNEW THAT WOULD BE THAT WAY.

YES. NO. YOU DID NOT KNOW THAT YOUR HOME WOULD BE SITUATED ON A LOT WHERE IT'S THE LONG WAY.

YEAH. YOU DID. YEAH, WE KNOW THAT. BUT YOU'RE ASKING US TO AGREE OR TO A PLAN WHERE WE ARE NOT REALLY HAVING MUCH OF AN INPUT. SO THAT'S WHY WE ARE ASKING A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME SO WE CAN ACTUALLY SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THESE PLANS AND AGREE WITH JEFF ON WHAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO LOOK AT HOW MUCH HE CAN GIVE IN THE BACK.

SO, AND HOW MUCH MEASUREMENT WE HAVE IN THE SIDE OF THOSE EYEBROW LOTS.

YOU KNOW, I LITERALLY WANT TO OPEN UP THE PLANTS WE HAVE FROM THE BUILDER AND MEASURE IT AND GO AND SIT WITH JEFF AND SAY, HERE'S WHAT WE GOT. HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GIVING US.

THIS IS WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FOR US. I THINK HE'S PROVIDED THAT.

I THINK HE CAN. HE HAS SHOWN WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

AND I THINK TO HIS POINT, ADDING TWO MORE WEEKS, I BELIEVE THIS IS HIS BEST AND FINAL OFFER.

AND I DON'T BELIEVE HE HAS THE CAPACITY GIVEN THE BUSINESS SITUATION TO CHANGE.

AND SO TWO MORE WEEKS OF JUST DISCUSSING IT, MAYBE IT COULD MAKE YOU FEEL BETTER, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE ANY DIFFERENT. AND I REALLY HOPED THAT MAYBE YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT AS A PROPERTY OWNER COMES FORWARD.

THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO GET THE GET THE CONSENT OF THE NEIGHBORS.

NOW, AS COUNCIL PEOPLE, ALL EACH ONE OF US, I HAVE SEEN US OVER THE YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN UP HERE.

WE TRY VERY HARD TO CONSIDER ADJACENCIES. WHAT ARE THE PROPERTIES NEXT DOOR? AND I THINK WE HAVE GIVEN A FAIR SHOT TO THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE ADJACENCY.

I THINK THE KEY ISSUES ARE THAT YOU HAVE A COMMERCIAL LOT THAT'S TWO DOORS DOWN FOR YOU, AND YOU VERY WELL COULD HAVE A COMMERCIAL LOT WITHOUT ANY OF THESE EXCEPTIONS. WITHOUT THE SETBACKS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE TRAFFIC, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE LIGHTS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE MORE SIRENS. THE VALUE OF YOUR PROPERTY ABUTTING A COMMERCIAL APPLICATION LIKE THAT, I BELIEVE, WOULD REASONABLY BE REDUCED. SO I REALLY IMPLORE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT IT AND FINISH THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

WELL, I KNOW THE MAIN ISSUE THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND IS A SETBACK.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, IT'S A SIDE YARD SETBACK EXISTING.

THAT'S 20FT. EXCUSE ME. THAT'S GOING TO ABUT A BACKYARD THAT HAS AN OFFSET OF 22FT.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THAT PROPERTY THAN THOSE HOUSES ON THOSE THOSE SIDE LOTS.

SO TO ME, IT DOES SEEM REASONABLE THAT THE 22FT EXCEEDS THE 20FT FOR THE SIDE LOT SETBACKS.

SO TO ME, THAT'S A REASONABLE PROPOSAL. YEAH.

I THINK THE SETBACK, WE WANTED TO DISCUSS THAT AS WELL AS THE EIGHT FOOT FENCE.

WE WANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT FENCE IS GOING TO REALLY GRADE OUT WITH OUR PROPERTY.

AND, SIR, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, WE ARE SF 15, AND WE ARE EVEN LARGER.

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OKAY, WE HAVE GIVEN THAT GIVEN RIGHT IN JUST TWO AND A HALF, BUT IT'S NOT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS PLACE TO GIVE FINAL APPROVAL FOR DEVELOPMENT NEXT DOOR. AND I UNDERSTAND AND AS I SAID TWO WEEKS AGO, IT IS EXTREMELY UNFORTUNATE THAT NO ONE MADE YOU AWARE OF THIS BEFORE YOU PURCHASED YOUR PROPERTY SO YOU COULD DULY CONSIDER YOUR OPTIONS.

AND THAT IS NOT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S FAULT. THAT'S NOT THIS COUNCIL'S FAULT.

BUYER BEWARE. WHICH I HAVE SET UP HERE MANY, MANY TIMES, AND WE HAVE NOT GONE FORWARD WITH TRYING TO DESIGN A WAY FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, FUTURE PROPERTY OWNERS, TO BE BETTER INFORMED.

AND THAT IS JUST NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. AND I'M VERY SORRY BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND YOUR HOME IS YOUR CASTLE.

FOR MANY OF US, IT'S THE BIGGEST INVESTMENT THAT WE MAKE IN OUR FUTURES, AND I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT THE ALTERNATIVE IS A COMMERCIAL OPERATION WITH A 65 UNIT NURSING HOME.

I BELIEVE THIS IS THE BEST AND FINAL OFFER I DON'T.

I THINK HE HAS MADE MANY REASONABLE ACCOMMODATIONS TO TRY TO MEET YOU HALFWAY.

HE IS SAYING THAT THERE IS NO MORE ROOM AND TWO MORE WEEKS WILL NOT CHANGE ANYTHING.

YEAH. SO IF YOU'VE COME 11 MONTHS AND TOGETHER AS HOMEOWNERS, WE HAVE PUT AT LEAST $30 MILLION IN OUR PROPERTY.

ALL WE ARE ASKING IS TO DOT THE I'S, CROSS THE T'S, SIT DOWN WITH JEFF.

YOU KNOW, JUST GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE THINGS, ESPECIALLY THE FENCE AND THE SPACING.

I DON'T KNOW WHY A TWO WEEKS IS BECOMING SUCH AN ISSUE FOR YOU, MA'AM.

I THINK WE CAN FINISH IT TONIGHT IF WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE FENCE.

AND IF MR. WESTCOTT WOULD COME UP AND PROVIDE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION.

WE. EVEN THOUGH I REALIZE IT'S TAKING US SOME TIME TONIGHT.

BUT I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE PUT TIME AND ENERGY INTO IT, AND HE HAS AS WELL.

AND I WANT TO PUT IT TO BED TONIGHT. MR. WESTCOTT, CAN YOU COME AND ADDRESS TO THEIR SATISFACTION THE FENCING? BECAUSE WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE TREES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE BURIED LINES. THERE IS NO MORE ROOM TO NEGOTIATE ON THE SETBACKS.

I THINK THE FENCE CAN BE THE ISSUE THAT MAKES IT WORK.

SO YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT IN THE PICTURE HERE, BUT YOU'LL SEE THE RETAINING WALL ON THE SOUTH END OF THE SITE.

IT GOES ABOUT TO 4 OR 5FT. IF YOU LOOK HERE, THIS CALL OUT LINE WHERE WE ARE IS WHERE WE'RE CALLING OUT AT ANYWHERE FROM A 1 TO 3 FOOT RETAINING WALL. AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE THAT 1 TO 3 FOOT RETAINING WALL IS BECAUSE WE ARE GRADING EVERYTHING.

YOU CAN'T HAVE LOT TO LOT DRAINAGE, WHICH MEANS YOU CAN'T HAVE THIS LOT DRAIN INTO THIS LOT.

SO EVERYTHING HAS TO BE SLOPED TOWARDS THE STREET SO IT CAN COME INTO THE SANITARY SEWER ON THE STREET.

TO DO THAT, WE WILL DIG AND GRADE OUT THIS PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH NEEDS A RETAINING WALL TO MAINTAIN YOUR LEVEL WHEN THAT RETAINING WALL IS DONE.

IT IS ANYWHERE FROM 1 TO 3FT. I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP THAT FENCE WILL BE, BECAUSE I WON'T KNOW UNTIL THE FINAL GRADING PLAN IS DONE.

ABOUT. HERE IS WHERE YOUR FENCE COMES ON TO GRADE, WHICH MEANS THE THE BOTTOM OF THE FENCE IS AT THE GRASS HERE.

I CAN TELL YOU THAT FROM THIS POINT TO LOT ONE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS, AND WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE START CONSTRUCTION, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THAT THE TOP OF YOUR THE TOP OF THIS FENCE WILL BE AT LEAST EIGHT FEET ABOVE MY BACKYARDS ON ALL OF THESE LOTS.

AND I CAN ALSO SAY THAT IN THESE. IF SO, IF YOU'RE SIX FOOT TODAY AND THIS FOOT, THIS WALL IS ONLY ONE FEET OR ONE, EXCUSE ME, ONE FOOT, THEN I CAN HAVE SEVEN FOOT PICKETS ON THIS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S EIGHT FEET FROM THE BOTTOM OF YOUR THE TOP OF THE FENCE TO THE BOTTOM OF MY BACKYARD.

THE PROBLEM WITH CALLING ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY OUTSIDE OF SAYING THAT THE FENCE MUST BE EIGHT FEET ABOVE MY GRADE IS I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING TO BE, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL STEP DOWNS. SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN WE GO TO BUILD? THIS IS THERE'S GOING TO BE PROBABLY A FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE AND HERE AND A FOOT DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HERE AND HERE, WHICH MEANS THERE'S GOING TO HAVE ZIG ZAG, LIKE IT'S GOING TO ZIG ZAG DOWN TO GET TO EIGHT FEET, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO TO NINE FEET. I'M NOT EVEN SURE IF WE CAN GO ABOVE EIGHT FEET, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO GO TO NINE FEET OR WE DON'T WANT TO GO TO NINE FEET.

BUT BASICALLY WHAT THAT ENSURES IS LOTS, THIS LOT, THIS AND THIS LOT AND THIS LOT ALL HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT FENCE, HAVE EIGHT FEET FROM THE TOP OF THEIR FENCE TO THE BOTTOM OF MY YARD.

EVERYTHING IN THIS THING HAS TO SLOPE FORWARD SO THE REST OF IT ALL GOES DOWN.

THE SETBACKS I I'M SORRY. THERE'S THE FRONT PORCH SETBACKS, NOT AIR CONDITIONED SPACE.

THE FRONT PORCH SETBACK IS A SMALL ROOF THAT SITS OFF THE FRONT OF THE OFFICE, OR FRONT OF THE HOUSE, NEXT TO THE DRIVEWAY. IT'S MEANT TO OFFSET FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT.

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SO MOVING IT FORWARD ON TOP OF I MEAN, THE NEIGHBORS WANT US TO BUILD A GOOD HOME.

YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT HOME VALUES. YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD. IF WE START HAVING AN EIGHT FOOT FRONT YARD THAT LOOKS LIKE A TOWNHOME AND THE CARS ARE PARKED IN THE SIDEWALK. SO MOVING THE FRONT YARD UP IS GOING TO CREATE MORE OF A VALUE CONCERN VERSUS JUST HAVING SOMETHING THAT'S COMPLETELY MARKETABLE, BEEN DONE BEFORE, HIGHLY SUSTAINABLE, AND WILL DRIVE YOUR VALUES UP.

I MEAN, IS THERE ANY WAY YOU COULD THINK ABOUT A DIFFERENT POSITIONING OF THAT LOT SO YOU COULD GIVE US A LITTLE MORE IN THE BACK? YEAH. SO CONSISTENTLY THAT'S THE 50 ITERATIONS AND 100 BILLABLE HOURS I'VE SPENT ON THE GRACE PARK DEVELOPMENT WAS ALLOWED A SPECIAL EXCEPTION SO THAT THEY COULD MAXIMIZE THEIR LOT COUNT IN CREATING THOSE EYEBROW LOTS.

NO, THAT'S NOT CORRECT. I FOUGHT THOSE EYEBROW LOTS AT PNC.

I CHALLENGED STAFF AND SAID, THIS IS A WHAT WE'RE CALLING A FRONT YARD IS A SIDE YARD.

THIS IS RIDICULOUS. AND I AND I WAS CHUCK CLEARED UP FOR ME THAT WHAT THEY DID IN THAT WAS ALLOWED DURING A STRAIGHT ZONING. AND WE COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT BECAUSE IT WAS NOT A PD.

WE WERE NOT LOOKING AT THE ZONING. IT WAS. WE WERE THEY WERE GRANTED STRAIGHT ZONING.

SO THEREFORE THEY COULD COME IN AND CONFIGURE IT ANY WAY THEY WANTED TO ACCORDING TO THE STANDARDS ALLOWED IN SF 15.

AND THAT WAS THE PLAN THEY CAME UP WITH. IT WAS NOT SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL SIGNED OFF ON.

I REMEMBER DISCUSSING IT AND I WAS NOT HAPPY.

WE DID SIGN OFF. WE DID DISCUSS IT BECAUSE IT CAME THROUGH AS A DEVELOPMENT PLAN, BUT WHICH IS A MINISTERIAL APPROVAL.

SO SO THE STATE BASICALLY TIED OUR HANDS ON THAT ONE.

THEY WERE GRANTED STATE ZONING. THE DEVELOPER CHOSE THAT OPTION TO MAXIMIZE THE LOT COUNT.

YES. YES. AND IT'S CREATED WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO IMPROVE THAT THERE ARE HOMES ON THIS SIDE OF THAT STREET WITH SIDE YARDS ABUTTING OUR YARD. SO JUST JUST A QUICK, QUICK QUESTION FOR THE RESIDENTS FOR THE FENCING.

DOES THAT DO YOU GUYS WANT TO HUDDLE UP AND DISCUSS IF THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN.

THE EIGHT FOOT FROM THEIRS. I THINK THAT'LL FIRST.

WELL, FIRST, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. YOU CAN COME FORWARD. GO AHEAD AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS RAJESH PARACHURI. I'M 39, 28 GRACE LANE.

I SHARE LIKE 5 OR 6 HOUSES. SO MY PROPERTY ACTUALLY SHARES ONE THROUGH FIVE, BUT THOSE ARE RIGHT NEXT TO MY PROPERTY. I THINK I DID MENTION ABOUT THE FENCE AND EVERYTHING.

AND ALSO THE SETBACK. WE DISCUSSED. SETBACK? WE KNEW IT WAS DIFFICULT.

WE ASKED. WE WANTED TO SEE WHERE WE WOULD LAND.

IT WASN'T MAKE OR BREAK FOR US. WE WORKED WITH DIFFERENT COUNCILMAN.

WE UNDERSTOOD WE WERE ALL NEW, WE JUST BOUGHT HOMES AND WE WERE ALSO NOT VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS.

WE LEARNED A LOT. SF FIVE SF TEN. WHEN WE BOUGHT HOMES WE DID NOT KNOW WHAT ZONE IT WAS.

WE BOUGHT THE HOME WE WANTED. WE LIKED THE SIZE OR WE LIKE THE LOT.

WE DID NOT KNOW. BUT DURING THIS LAST 2 OR 3 WEEKS WE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS.

AND SOME THINGS ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT SOME THINGS ARE A BIGGER DEAL, WHICH IS THE THE AREA THAT'S SURROUNDING YOU.

AND I GUESS WHAT I WANTED TO SAY, YEAH, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE 30 OR IT'S NOT ABOUT THE 50.

IT'S NOT ABOUT ALL THE NINE FEET, 12FT FENCE.

IS THERE ANY MIDDLE GROUND. THE THE FEELING IN THE COMMUNITY.

LACK OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. LACK OF AWARENESS.

NOT BECAUSE WE DO NOT WANT TO KNOW. IT JUST SO HAPPENS WHEN YOU'RE BUYING AN EXPENSIVE HOME.

YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS OTHER THAN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE VACANT LOT.

SO WE WERE WE WERE ACTUALLY SHOT AT THE TIME, IT WAS ALMOST LIKE, OH, SOMEONE ELSE GOT A GREEN ZONE IN THE BACK.

SOMEONE ELSE GOT TREES OUT IN THE FRONT. AND THIS IS THE FEELING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE DIDN'T GET ANYTHING.

ANYTHING THAT WE ASKED. AND I COMPLETELY RESPECT.

I MET JEFF MORE THAN ONCE. I THINK WE MET 3 OR 4 TIMES ALREADY, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND HIS SITUATION.

AND I MET MISTER ED, THE PROPERTY OWNER, YESTERDAY, AND HE EXPLAINED US WHERE HE IS, AND IT ALMOST FEELS LIKE YOU TAKE THIS OR YOU'RE GOING TO GET A NURSING HOME KIND OF SITUATION. THAT'S THE FEELING. I'M NOT SAYING IN ANY OTHER WAY, BUT THAT WAS THE OVERWHELMING FEELING MOST OF THE OF THE RESIDENTS FELT, AND WE ARE WILLING TO WORK.

I'M NOT SAYING 30FT OR NO DEAL OR NINE FOOT FENCE OR NO DEAL.

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WE'VE COME TO KNOW THIS FROM OUR KNOWLEDGE THAT, OH, WE DIDN'T PUT ANY WINDOWS ON GRACE PARK BECAUSE THEY REQUESTED FOR IT.

THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE THEIR PRIVACY. AND HOW IS THAT? GRACE PARK RESIDENTS ARE NOT GIVEN THE SAME CONSIDERATION, JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE AROUND US GOT.

I'M NOT ASKING FOR ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I'M NOT ASKING FOR A GREEN BUFFER TO MAINTAIN, LIKE A TWO ACRE LOT SO I CAN LOOK AT THE TREES.

WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THERE ANY MIDDLE GROUND HERE? 35. 1 OR 2FT, WHICH IS NOT POSSIBLE. SO BE IT.

WHAT ABOUT WINDOWS? AND IS THIS THE FORUM FOR US TO, LIKE, GO DOWN THE LIST OF THINGS AND DO WE HAVE TO FINALIZE BETWEEN US AND JEFF ON WHERE WE AGREE AND WHERE WE DON'T AGREE? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOW THIS IS GOING TO GO.

SO WE CAN PULL THE LIST UP. IS JEFF'S GOING TO BE JOINING ALONGSIDE HERE.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO CHECK CHECK, CHECK. AND SO I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

BUT THAT WAS THE FEELING WE ALL FELT. WE GOT RUSHED INTO THIS AND I THINK WE DESERVE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME.

AND IF THINGS THAT CAN BE SORTED OUT, THOSE CAN BE SORTED OUT.

RIGHT NOW. WE'RE NOT OPPOSED TO THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. SO I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

[L. CLOSED MEETING]

I'M GOING TO OPEN UP A UP A CONFERENCE ROOM DOWN THE HALL THAT THEY CAN DO THAT WHILE WE'RE IN CLOSED SESSION TALKING ABOUT OTHER BUSINESS, NOT THIS ITEM. AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.

OH, YEAH. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. SO THE TIME IS NOW.

732. THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER FIVE.

551 SECTION 071072074 AND 087 RESIDENTS. YOU CAN.

WE WILL COME BACK. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO, FLOWER MOUND.

[M. RECONVENE]

THERE IS NOTHING TO NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN FROM OUR CLOSED SESSION.

AT THIS TIME. WE ARE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING AGAIN FOR ITEMS J TWO, THREE AND

[Items J.2. - J.4. (Part 2 of 2)]

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND HAVE IF I'M GOING TO HAVE.

YEAH, I'M GOING TO HAVE THE RESIDENTS SPEAK FIRST.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO COME FORWARD, JUST REPEAT YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AGAIN SINCE YOU'RE TALKING AGAIN.

HI, THIS IS ADITI BANERJEE, 3800 GRACE LANE. SO WE JUST MET WITH JEFF AND TOGETHER, AND WE HAD A DISCUSSION HERE. WE WERE ABLE TO REACH CERTAIN COMPROMISES.

THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE TIME AND THE GUIDANCE HERE.

I THINK WHAT WE AGREED UPON IS NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR FOR LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX.

OKAY. EIGHT FOOT FENCE WITH WOOD ON WOOD ON THE GRACEFUL SIDE.

TWO TREES IN THE BACK TWO AND A HALF, WHICH IS APPROXIMATELY 35 GALLONS OR SO EACH.

AND THEN WE ARE GIVING UP ON THE REAR SETBACK BECAUSE WE THINK THAT IT'S VERY CHALLENGING TO HAVE THAT. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT YOU WILL BURY THE ELECTRIC POLE OR DO THE NEEDFUL THERE. WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT HAVING THE TREE AREA IN THE BACK, WHICH IS IN THE CUL-DE-SAC, BECAUSE THERE ARE LOTS OF BEAUTIFUL BIG TREES AND GREEN AREA, WHICH IS CHARACTERISTIC OF FLOWER MOUND.

SO IF THOSE TREES ARE TAKEN OUT EXCEPT ONE SPECIMEN TEA TREE, THEN WE WOULD APPRECIATE HAVING A GOOD TREE PLANT THERE.

SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE REACHED AN AGREEMENT WITH JEFF.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. DOES ANYBODY ELSE NEED TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS?

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SO I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING. ONE THING, JUST TO CLARIFY ON THE FENCE BOARD ON BOARD.

SO SAME AS THERE EIGHT FOOT FROM OUR LOT. SO IF WE HAVE A TWO FOOT RETAINING WALL AND THERE'S SIX FEET ON TOP, THAT FENCE WOULD COVER THE EIGHT FEET.

AND THEN IF WE HAVE TO BUILD TO GET UP TO EIGHT FEET FROM ANYWHERE, FROM THERE, WE WILL ON THE WHERE THE LOTS ARE.

I DO WANT TO CLARIFY. WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD A FENCE IN THAT TOP LOT OR IN I MEAN, THE BOTTOM LOT DOESN'T MATTER.

BUT THE EXCELLENT THE X LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE WHERE THERE'S ALL THOSE TREES.

WE DON'T WANT A BIGGER FENCE. RIGHT. OKAY. JEFF, CAN I JUST CLARIFY THAT FENCE ISSUE? SO IF THERE'S A IS THERE GOING TO BE MORE THAN A TWO FOOT RETAINING WALL ANYWHERE? BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY WANT A MINIMUM SIX FOOT FENCE, EVEN IF IT'S A TEN FOOT.

OH, YEAH. MINIMUM SIX FOOT FENCE. OKAY. JUST KNOW, LIKE IF WE HAVE TWO FOOT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BUILD A TEN FOOT FENCE.

SO, LEXIN, WE MAY NEED TO JUST WORK ON THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT ONE.

YES. OKAY. I THINK IF COUNCIL IS GOOD WITH THAT, I THINK YOU COULD STATE THAT FENCE WILL BE INSTALLED OR REPLACED ON THE GRACE PARK SIDE THAT PROVIDES A MINIMUM OF EIGHT FOOT FENCING FROM THE GRADE OF PINE HILL WITH NO LESS THAN SIX FOOT AN ACTUAL FENCING.

OR ANYWAY, WE'LL KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO WE'LL RUN IT BACK THROUGH BRANT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CLEAN IT UP.

I GOT IT. OKAY. AND THEN THE POLES. DID WE POLES ON THE PINEWOOD? ARE THEY GOING? OKAY. THEY'RE GOING TO BE CAPPED ON WOOD FOR THE POLE.

THEY GET THEY GET THE CLEAN SIDE. YEAH. I THINK THE POLLS WILL BE ON THE PINE HILL SIDE.

OKAY, I GOT IT. ALL RIGHT. AND DID WE NEED TO SPECIFY ANYTHING ABOUT THE X SLOT AS FAR AS THE NATURAL LANDSCAPE? YEAH. I THINK OUR, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK OUR MAJOR INTENTION IS THAT THAT EIGHT FOOT FENCE REQUIREMENT IS FOR THE REAR YARDS OF LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX. YEAH, WE HAVE OPEN SPACE.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO BLOCK THEM FROM THE OH, I THINK IT WAS MORE OF THE TRYING TO KEEP IT NATURALLY LANDSCAPED OR TRYING TO PRESERVE AS MANY OF THE TREES THAT.

OH, AT THE BOTTOM IT WAS CALLED A TREE PLAN IN THE X LOT.

YEAH. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN EXACTLY? I DON'T KNOW.

I THINK LEX AND I KIND OF SPOKE. WE HAVE OUR LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE IT VERY PRETTY DOWN THERE. I MEAN, I LEFT ALL THAT SPACE OPEN TO MAKE IT PRETTY.

WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT PRETTY. DO YOU HAVE YOUR.

OH, SORRY, I'M NOT ON THE SLIDE. DO YOU HAVE YOUR. SO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, THE RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING AT THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT HIGHLIGHTED EXACTLY WHAT THE PLAN IS. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN AGREEMENT THAT EXECUTING THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT YOU HAVE ALREADY DESIGNED IS GOING TO BE SATISFACTORY. I THINK IT IS.

I JUST WANT YOU TO HIGHLIGHT IT SO THAT EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE REQUEST IS TO BUILD IS TO PLANT MORE TREES.

IS IT IN THIS EXAMPLE, ARE THERE EXISTING TREES VERSUS NEW TREES THAT YOU COULD MAYBE HIGHLIGHT? THIS IS THE EXISTING THE THIS IS THE EXISTING SWEETGUM TREE.

ALL THE REST OF THEM ARE PLANTED TREES AROUND THE LOT.

SO, I'M LOOKING AT ABOUT 15 OR 20 NEW FIVE TREES IN THAT SPOT.

AND THEN THERE'S WAS IT FIVE, SIX, SEVEN, EIGHT, NINE, TEN, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16 TREES THAT GO AROUND THE DETENTION.

THAT'S ALSO PART OF CODE. YEAH. THAT'S IN THE PLAN ALREADY AND IN THE PLAN.

RIGHT. SO I GUESS I JUST WANT TO HEAR FROM THE FROM THE RESIDENTS ONE MORE TIME ON THAT SPECIFIC POINT, TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT THE TOWN REQUIRES IS SORT OF IS SUFFICIENT TO MEET THE EXPECTATIONS. SO WHEN WE WALK THAT AREA, THERE'S A BEAUTIFUL CRAPE MYRTLES AND VERY NICE MATURE TREES. WHAT OUR CONCERN IS THAT THOSE TREES, ARE THEY GOING TO BE SAVED OR ALL KIND OF KNOCKED OFF.

AND SMALL, SMALL TREES GET PLANTED THERE. OKAY.

THAT'S OUR CONCERN. WELL OBVIOUSLY. OKAY. SO OBVIOUSLY THE AREA WHERE THERE'S NO ROAD.

I MEAN, THE ROAD IS GOING TO HAVE TO CUT THE TREES DOWN. BUT JEFF, IF IN THE AREAS WHERE THERE IS NO WHERE YOU'RE NOT MAKING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE ROAD, IS IT POSSIBLE TO SAVE THE EXISTING TREES THAT ARE IN GOOD CONDITION? I WANTED TO SEE IF JAKE COULD TALK TO YOU ALL JUST ABOUT WHAT TREES ARE ACTUALLY OUT THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT. I KNOW THERE IS THE ONE SPECIMEN TREE.

I WASN'T SURE IF THERE WERE ANY PROTECTED TREES OR SO DOWN THERE.

WE LOOK AT THE PROTECTED TREES WHEN WE GET TO SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN FOR OFF THE TOP OF MY MEMORY.

I BELIEVE THERE'S A WATER OAK, A PROTECTED ONE SOUTH OF THAT SWEET GUM TREE.

SO CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A PROTECTED TREE AND A SPECIMEN TREE FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT AS FAMILIAR WITH OUR LANGUAGE? SURE. SO ANY PROTECTED TREE, IT HAS TO BE ON OUR PROTECTED SPECIES LIST.

ONCE IT REACHES SIX INCHES, AT DIAMETER, AT BREAST HEIGHT.

AND THEN, DEPENDING ON THE SPECIES, WE HAVE SOME THAT ONCE IT REACHES 13IN, IT'LL BE A SPECIMEN,

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POST OAKS ARE 22, AND THEN LARGE TREES ARE 25IN OR WHEN THEY BECOME SPECIMENS.

SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE SWEET GUM, THAT ONE WAS 22IN.

IT WAS ABLE TO BECOME A SPECIMEN. BUT THERE'S OTHER ONES THAT IT HAS TO REACH THAT CERTAIN DIAMETER.

SO, IN THE TREE REMOVAL APPLICATION THERE IS LIKE IT SHOWS THE, THE PROTECTED TREES AND THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED ARE HIGHLIGHTED ON HERE.

THIS IS PAGE 103 IN THE PACKET. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN IF WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

I BELIEVE IT'S IN MY PRESENTATION ALSO. OKAY.

SO THERE IS A FEW PROTECTED TREES SHOWN ON HERE.

NOT EVERY SINGLE PROTECTED TREE IS SHOWN BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN I START LOOKING AT IT AT THE SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN.

RIGHT NOW, WE JUST HAVE AN ESTIMATE NUMBER OF THE PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED AND THE PROTECTED TREES. SO, IF YOU WERE WALKING AROUND IN THAT AREA WHERE THE CUL-DE-SAC IS, YOU COULD PICK THERE'S THREE TREES RIGHT THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC.

OBVIOUSLY, THOSE WILL HAVE TO GO BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A ROAD THERE. THERE'S TWO TREES. THE TREES ON THE ON THE EAST SIDE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REMOVED FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THE ENTIRE WESTERN AND SOUTHERN SIDE, ALL THE ALL THE PROTECTED TREES ARE NONE OF THEM HAVE BEEN HIGHLIGHTED FOR REMOVAL IN THIS IN THIS VISUAL THAT I'M LOOKING AT. NOT ALL OF THEM HAVE BEEN SHOWN, SO IT LOOKS LIKE HE HIGHLIGHTED A FEW FOR A COUPLE REASONS, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM ARE SHOWN ON THIS PLAN, AND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO.

I MEAN, THE ONES THAT ARE PROTECTED ARE REQUIRED TO BE HIGHLIGHTED AND NOT.

SO THESE THREE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CUL-DE-SAC ARE SPECIMEN TREES.

NO, SIR. NO, THEY'RE JUST PROTECTED TREES IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CUL-DE-SAC.

THEY'RE ONLY REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A COUNT OF PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE TO REMAIN IN THE COUNT OF PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE GOING TO BE REMOVED.

AND THEY'VE DONE THAT ON A SHEET. SO, JEFF, IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO GET REQUESTS FOR, LIKE, KEEP THE TREES ALONG THE FENCE LINE FOR PRIVACY.

AND SO THIS IS A PRETTY COMMON REQUEST. AND THE WAY WE USUALLY HANDLE THIS IS TO GET ASSURANCES THAT OBVIOUSLY NOTHING THAT'S A SPECIMEN TREE IS HIGHLIGHTED FOR REMOVAL. SO IF YOU WERE TO WALK AROUND THE BOUNDARIES OF THE FENCE LINE, THE TREES THAT TREES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE, THAT ARE PROTECTED.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A MESQUITE TREE, FOR EXAMPLE, WOULD NOT BE A PROTECTED TREE.

THAT'S GOING TO BE THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED FOR REMOVAL.

SO I THINK WE CAN ASSUME THAT MOST OF WHAT'S THERE IS GOING TO STAY.

BUT THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEIR LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THERE'S THERE'S AN AERIAL HERE IN THE PACKET THAT'S QUITE A BIT BETTER.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT A LOT OF TREES AROUND THIS NEW POND AND A LOT OF TREES ON THE SOUTHWEST QUADRANT WHERE THERE IS SOME, IT LOOKS LIKE SPACE WHERE THERE'S NOTHING CURRENTLY.

NOT QUITE. YEAH. SO SUFFICE IT TO SAY THAT MY READ ON THIS IS UNLESS HE'S PLANNING ON CLEARCUTTING EVERYTHING, WHICH I DON'T THINK JEFF IS PLANNING ON DOING THAT.

IT'S JUST GOING TO BE MORE TREES THAN THERE ARE TODAY. AND THE ONES THAT THERE ARE MOSTLY GOING TO STAY. SO THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE OUR TOWN STANDARDS EXECUTED TO THE LEVEL THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO BE, IS PROBABLY GOING TO GET THE RESULT THAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.

NOW, IF WE NEED TO ASK FOR MORE, WE CAN ASK FOR MORE.

BUT I'M NOT GETTING THE SENSE THAT WE NEED TO, JUST BASED ON WHAT I'M LOOKING AT THAT'S ALREADY HERE.

AND WHAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED FOR REMOVAL, IS THAT SO I AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE SAME PICTURE, BUT THERE'S QUITE A FEW TREES THAT ARE SHOWING UP IN THIS AERIAL THAT LOOK LIKE THEY'RE NOT HIGH. THEY DON'T HAVE XS ON THEM.

THEY'RE MOSTLY COME ON UP, COME ON UP. I WAS BACK THERE TODAY.

I MEAN, THEY'RE MOSTLY SMALL TREES THAT WEREN'T IDENTIFIED AS ANY SORT OF PROTECTED SPECIES.

SO I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE CRAPE MYRTLES BACK THERE.

BUT AS FAR AS PROTECTED TREES THAT WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, I'M UNAWARE OF ANY BACK THERE.

I THINK THE REQUEST IS TRY TO RETAIN THE HEALTHY TREES THAT ARE THERE.

WE ARE HIGHLY INCENTIVIZED TO DO THAT. I MEAN, WE'RE LEAVING IT THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, TOO.

OKAY, OKAY. YEAH. WELL. ARE WE DONE WITH THE QUESTIONS? OKAY, SO AT THIS POINT IT SOUNDS LIKE COUNCIL.

YOU DO NOT WANT TO TABLE THIS. NO. WITH THE CONSENT OF THESE RESIDENTS AND THE ITEMS THEY'VE IDENTIFIED, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST GO OVER THAT LIST. AND IF YOU HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU GUYS CAME TO AND I CAN READ IT OUT BEFORE I ACTUALLY MAKE THE FORMAL MOTION. OKAY, SO WHAT I HAD IS THE FORMAL MOTION WOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM J2 WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONS. PINE HILLS LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX BUILDINGS WILL HAVE NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

WEST FACING NORTHWEST FACING WEST FACING. GOOD OKAY.

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YES. GOOD ENOUGH TO ACCOUNT FOR THAT. OKAY, WELL, IT'S EIGHT FOOT ABOVE GRADE WITH A MINIMUM OF SIX FEET WITH NOTHING LESS THAN SIX FEET.

OKAY, I'LL MAKE SURE I ADD THAT. OKAY. THE PINE HILLS PROPERTIES ARE TO INCLUDE AT LEAST TWO TREES OF APPROXIMATELY 35 GALLONS FOR EACH BACKYARD. AND CAN I RECOMMEND THREE INCH CALIPER TREES AS THE STANDARD? OKAY. I THOUGHT THAT WAS JUST WHAT THEY SAID. SO NO. NO. OKAY.

THREE INCH MINIMUM THREE INCH CALIPER. OKAY. AND COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN, I WOULD JUST MAKE SURE IN YOUR CONDITION THAT YOU SAY IN THE BACKYARD BECAUSE IN THE BACKYARD FROM OUR NORMAL STANDARD.

YES. IN THE BACKYARD. OKAY. ELECTRICAL LINES WILL BE BURIED AS REQUIRED.

AND SINCE WE'VE COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON THE TREE PLAN IN THE X LOT THAT IS MEETING THE STANDARDS, DOES THAT NEED TO BE INCLUDED OR WOULD THAT BE.

NO, THAT WOULD ALREADY BE RECORDED. THAT'S ALREADY. THAT'S ALREADY REQUIRED. ONE THING I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY FOR Y'ALL, SINCE YOU SAID ABOUT THE ELECTRICAL LINES WILL BE BURIED.

SO THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THOSE ALONG 1171 BECAUSE THAT'S COSERV AND THEY WOULD NOT BURY THEM DUE TO THE SMALL THE SHORT DISTANCE.

SO YOU MAY WANT TO CLARIFY THAT ELECTRICAL LINES ON THE PROPERTY INTERIOR TO THE PROPERTY WILL BE.

THAT'S ALREADY GOING TO HAPPEN, RIGHT. IT IS ALREADY GOING TO HAPPEN.

YES. SO DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT? YEAH. PUT IT IN.

PUT IT. YEAH. BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE POLES ON 1171 THAT'S NOT OUR DECISION.

IT'S UP TO THE POLES AND WIRES COMPANY. OKAY, OKAY, OKAY.

GREAT. OKAY I'M GOING TO GO FOR IT. SO, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.

SO, THE J2 IS THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT THAT HAS NO CONDITIONS.

SO, ALL THOSE CONDITIONS ARE FOR THE SHOULD WE DO J2 FIRST.

YES. OKAY I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM J2 AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. OKAY, THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

VOTE. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM J3 WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS.

PINE HILLS LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX WILL HAVE NO WINDOWS ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

ON THE WEST SIDE, THE EIGHT FOOT BOARD ON BOARD FENCE WILL BE MEASURED FROM GRADE AT PINE HILLS, AND THE POLES WILL BE ON THE SIDE OF PINE HILLS ON ALL THE RESIDENTIAL LOTS, ONE THROUGH SIX, AND NONE WILL BE LESS THAN SIX FEET. ELECTRICAL LINES WILL BE BURIED AS REQUIRED INSIDE THE PROPERTY AND THE TREE AND THE TWO TREES. A MINIMUM OF TWO TREES, CONSISTING OF A MINIMUM THREE INCH CALIPER, WILL BE PLANTED IN THE BACKYARD OF THE PINE HILLS.

LOTS ONE THROUGH SIX. SECOND. OKAY. THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

J3 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

PARDON ME. I'M SORRY. I MOVED TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM J4 AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE THE ROLL. C. ITEM J4 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. MAN, THAT WAS A PRODUCTIVE NIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. I'M GLAD EVERYBODY GOT WHAT THEY WANTED.

ALL RIGHT. AT THIS TIME, IT IS 8:26. AND GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUND.

WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.