[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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WELCOME TO OUR FIRST MEETING OF THE NEW YEAR.
JAMES BOBBIT, HE WAS A FLOWER MOUND.
HE WAS A FLOWER MOUND FIRE DEPARTMENT FIREFIGHTER.
AND HE WAS WITH US SINCE 2007.
AND WE WILL GREATLY MISS HIM AND A SECOND HERO IN OUR COMMUNITY IS KATHY O'KEEFE.
SHE WAS THE FOUNDER OF WINNING THE FIGHT.
IT'S AN ORGANIZATION THAT SHE FOUNDED.
AND THIS WAS AN ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO PEOPLE WITH DRUG ADDICTION.
SHE DID COUNTLESS EDUCATION TO INDIVIDUALS WITH DRUG ADDICTION AND TO THE FAMILIES TO SUPPORT THEM IN THAT FIGHT.
SHE WILL BE GREATLY, GREATLY MISSED.
SHE DID SO MUCH FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO I WOULD LIKE US ALL TO RISE.
LET'S TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE.
YOU'LL CONTINUE TO BOW YOUR HEADS AS I PRAY.
OUR GOD AND CREATOR, WE THANK YOU FOR LIFE AND FOR EACH ONE HERE.
WE THANK YOU FOR THE BLESSINGS THAT YOU PROVIDE.
PLEASE BLESS THIS NEW YEAR AND AS WE CONTEMPLATE THE POSSIBILITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES, WE REMEMBER ALL THOSE WHO HAVE PASSED AND ASK FOR PEACE AND COMFORT AND PRAYERS FOR THEIR FAMILIES, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE WE'VE REMEMBERED THIS EVENING.
WE ALSO PRAY FOR PROTECTION FOR OUR POLICE AND FIRE SERVICE AND ALL THOSE WHO PROTECT OUR COUNTRY.
AND NOW WE ASK FOR WISDOM IN ALL DECISIONS THIS EVENING.
AMEN. PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS.
ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE.
PLEASE. OKAY, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION.
HELLO. OKAY, THIS IS A SONG AND DANCE PORTION OF THE SHOW BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE PROCLAMATION.
OKAY. WELL, WE'LL SKIP LET'S SEE.
WE CAN SKIP TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
OKAY. WE'LL JUST SKIP FORWARD TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, AND WE HAVE, CAN'T READ THAT.
SHARON GENTRY, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD.
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AND DO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.NOW WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO SKIP.
[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]
OKAY. LET'S START DOWN HERE.NO I'LL JUST GO NOW IF THAT'S OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. SO THE NATIONAL ELECTION JUST CONCLUDED.
SO THAT MEANS THAT OUR LOCAL ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT TO SPIN UP.
AND THE FILING PERIOD FOR CANDIDATES FOR THIS COMING MAY ELECTION IS THE 15TH, JANUARY 15TH.
AND MY SEAT PLACE ONE WILL BE ON THE BALLOT.
SO MY FIRST TERM IS COMING TO AN END.
NOW WE'VE REDUCED OUR DEBT SO MUCH THAT WE CAN NOW CONSIDER TAKING ON SOME ADDITIONAL DEBT IN ORDER TO ENHANCE OUR PUBLIC AMENITIES, WHICH IS A VERY LUXURIOUS POSITION TO BE IN. WE'VE STRENGTHENED OUR CONSERVATION STANDARDS IN THE CONSERVATION AREA.
WE'VE ALSO PROTECTED NEIGHBORHOODS FROM BAD DEVELOPMENT LIKE WAREHOUSES.
I'M VERY PROUD OF THESE ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND THIS BODY THAT I SIT ON, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME CHALLENGES AND THREATS FACING THIS TOWN THAT THIS COUNCIL AND THE NEXT COUNCIL WILL HAVE TO FACE. CHIEF AMONG THOSE IS OUR OWN STATE LEGISLATURE, WHICH IS TRYING TO, AS WE SPEAK, TAKE AWAY OUR AUTHORITY OVER RESIDENTIAL ZONING AND GIVING IT TO DEVELOPERS.
THERE ARE ALSO SOME OPPORTUNITIES, SOME UNFINISHED BUSINESS.
I THINK THERE'S THINGS WE CAN DO TO GIVE PEOPLE CERTAINTY AND PREDICTABILITY IN WHAT THEIR FUTURE TAX BURDEN WILL BE, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT GETTING HIT WITH THAT APPRAISAL EVERY SINGLE YEAR. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, WITH AN ELECTION COMING UP AND MY SEAT ON THE BALLOT, I'M PROUD TO ANNOUNCE MY CANDIDACY FOR REELECTION IN THE NEXT ELECTION THIS YEAR.
WELL, AND WITH THE SUPPORT OF THIS COMMUNITY, IT'S AN EASY JOB TO DO.
AND IT'S AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE AND SUPPORT YOU GUYS.
I REALLY, I REALLY MEAN THAT. AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT PRIVILEGE TO BE HERE FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU. WE'LL KEEP DOING ANNOUNCEMENTS.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY BEFORE I DO THE WELL, I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU.
FIRST OF ALL, YOU'VE DONE A FANTASTIC OUTSTANDING JOB AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO YOUR CAMPAIGN.
SHE WAS A RARE GEM OF A PERSON AND JUST A SIMPLY OUTSTANDING HUMAN BEING.
SHE WAS ABLE TO DO SOMETHING THAT I THINK NOT MANY OF US WOULD BE ABLE TO DO.
AND SHE TOOK A PERSONAL TRAGEDY, AND SHE TRANSFORMED IT INTO WORKING FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO HELP OTHERS SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE SAME THING THAT SHE AND HER FAMILY ENDURED. AND IT WAS A COMPLETE AND UTTER SHOCK HEARING THAT SHE HAD A VERY BRIEF.
SO I DO HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHOW.
THERE'S MORE INFORMATION ONLINE AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.
GUYS, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? YEAH. CONGRATS, ADAM, ON A SECOND RUN.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SERVING WITH YOU MORE.
HAPPY NEW YEAR TO FLOWER MOUND.
I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO A FUN 2025 AND A GREAT, GREAT COMMUNITY.
ONE THING I HAVE, ADAM, CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR RACE.
LOOK FORWARD TO SUPPORTING YOU. AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING BUT CONGRATULATIONS.
ALL RIGHT, SO WITH THAT, SHARON GENTRY, DO YOU WANT TO COME ON UP AND DO YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT?
[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]
AND THEN I'LL COME DOWN THERE AND DO THE PROCLAMATION.YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
MAKE SURE YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, PLEASE.
OKAY. SO, ADAM, WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR DEDICATION TO THE TOWN AND DEFINITELY TO
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THE CITIZENS.I KNOW THAT YOU MUST JUGGLE YOUR FAMILY OBLIGATIONS AND WORK OBLIGATIONS, BUT YOU'VE ALWAYS WORKED IN THE INTEREST OF THE TOWN AS WELL.
SO I'M SO RELIEVED THAT YOU'RE OFFERING TO RUN AGAIN AND GIVE US YOUR EXPERTISE AGAIN.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE PEOPLE HERE THAT YOU'VE MENTORED, AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AS WELL.
ONCE AGAIN, I'M VOTING FOR YOU.
AND IN THE ELECTION IN THE SPRING.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.
[D. PRESENTATION(S)]
WE'RE ALL OUT OF ORDER TONIGHT, BUT WE'RE GETTING TO IT.IT'S A PROCLAMATION FOR ROBERT MENDOZA, AND HE'S GOING TO BE COMING UP HERE WITH HIS WIFE, JULIE.
SO WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE THAT.
IF NOT YOU CAN USE THE PODIUM MIC.
YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO JUST TURN THE PODIUM MIC AROUND.
TURN THE PODIUM AROUND. JUST USE THE PODIUM.
HE GRADUATED BOOT CAMP IN CAMP LEJEUNE, NORTH CAROLINA, BEFORE BEING STATIONED IN LONDON, ENGLAND, AND ROBERT WAS ASSIGNED TO FIRST BATTALION, SECOND MARINES WEAPONS COMPANY DURING OPERATIONS DESERT SHIELD AND DESERT STORM, AND HE EARNED A NATIONAL DEFENSE SERVICE MEDAL, KUWAIT LIBERATION MEDAL, AND SOUTHWEST ASIA SERVICE MEDAL BEFORE BEING RELEASED FROM ACTIVE DUTY AND ENTERING THE MARINE CORPS RESERVES AS LANCE CORPORAL.
WOW. NOW THEREFORE, I, CHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, A FLOWER MOUND AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR OUR OWN HOMETOWN HERO, ROBERT MENDOZA.
WOULD YOU LIKE IT? LET HIM SPEAK. THIS IS INCREDIBLE.
ALL RIGHT, SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SERVED IN THE SERVICE, YOU KNOW YOU DON'T DO IT ALONE.
SO IT TAKES A VILLAGE FOR, YOU KNOW, A MARINE WHO'S WAY OUT THERE.
SO I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK MY WIFE, JULIE MENDOZA.
[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]
WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.I DON'T HAVE A FORMAL PRESENTATION ON ANYTHING THIS EVENING, BUT I DID WANT TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC THAT JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU, ALL AS YOU'RE WATCHING YOUR PHONE AND YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT FORECAST, YOU KNOW, JUST TRUST THAT OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM IS HUDDLING, HUDDLING, STARTING TOMORROW MORNING, AND WE WILL BE ON TOP OF EVERYTHING AS IT COMES FORWARD. WE ANTICIPATE QUITE A BIT OF PRECIPITATION ON THURSDAY AND ALONG TO FREEZING TEMPERATURES.
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I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE THE PUBLIC TO USE THE VARIOUS CHANNELS THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE.WE'RE ALWAYS WELL PREPARED, OUR STREETS ARE WELL TAKEN CARE OF, AND THAT'S GOING TO BE NO DIFFERENT.
SO JUST WANT TO SHARE WITH EVERYBODY.
JUST CHECK OUR CHANNELS AND STAY POSTED.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.
[H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]
ITEM H AND WE'LL START DOWN HERE WITH JANVIER.OKAY. AND ADAM. YEAH, I DO HAVE ONE.
AND ANNE, YOU MAY HAVE THE SAME ITEM.
SO I'D LIKE STAFF TO OR I'D LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER MODIFYING OUR LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS TO EXPLICITLY PROHIBIT ACCESSORY DWELLINGS FROM BEING USED AS SHORT TERM RENTALS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, LEXIN, IF WE WERE TO CONSIDER THIS, IT MIGHT BE MODIFYING SECTION 90 8-9834 OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, WHICH SAYS TODAY ACCESSORY DWELLING SHALL NOT BE USED AS RENTAL UNITS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO ADD INCLUDING SHORT TERM RENTALS.
NOW THE BACKSTORY HERE IS THAT OUR LOBBYIST WHO'S REPRESENTING US ON THOSE.
THE BILL THAT IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY OUR AUTHORITY OVER RESIDENTIAL ZONING.
ALLOW THEM TO BE RENTED OUT EVEN IF THE PRIMARY RESIDENCE IS ALREADY RENTED OUT.
HOWEVER, IT DOES HAVE A CLAUSE THAT WOULD ALLOW EXISTING SHORT TERM RENTAL REGULATIONS TO BE APPLIED TO ADUS, SO WE SHOULD CONSIDER MAKING THAT EXPLICIT IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES SO THAT WE ARE WE HAVE THAT ACCOUNTED FOR, AND TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES THOSE ARE GRANDFATHERED IN AND YOU DON'T GET TO CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT.
YEAH, JUST A PRECAUTIONARY MEASURE.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET IT INTO OUR NEXT WORK SESSION.
BUT I REALLY WANT TO ACT ON THIS QUICKLY.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE LEGISLATIVE SESSIONS WILL BE COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS.
AND OBVIOUSLY I WAS IN THE SAME MEETINGS AS YOU WERE ALL IN.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE COMPONENTS OF THAT.
SO, WE'LL WORK INTERNALLY, AND WE WILL WORK TO GET IT IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND IF WE HAVE TO GET OUTSIDE THE NORMAL WORK SESSION SCHEDULE TO DO SO, WE'LL DO THAT.
WE'LL GO ON. AND DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE HERE, YOU GUYS? YEAH, YEAH, I SUPPORT THAT FULLY.
I THOUGHT I SAW HEAD NODS, BUT YEAH.
ANYBODY ELSE WANT TO ADD A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? YEAH, I HAVE ONE ON RESIDENTIAL.
WE'VE RECEIVED A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT REDBUD POINT, AND I'D LIKE TO MAYBE HAVE A WORK SESSION JUST KIND OF DISCUSSING, MAYBE CHANGING THE RESIDENTIAL HEIGHT LIMITS, ESPECIALLY HOW THEY IMPACT WELL-ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOODS.
DOES THAT MAKE. YEAH, I'M FINE WITH THAT.
AND I WOULD MAYBE SAY LIKE VIEW CORRIDORS, MAYBE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.
IT SEEMS TO BE THE GENESIS OF THOSE EMAILS.
SO, YEAH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION IN A WORK SESSION.
ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WE'LL DO C, SEE ENOUGH HEAD NODS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM I COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.
[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]
SO THE NEXT MEETINGS ARE JANUARY 16TH.OKAY, EVERYBODY GOOD WITH THAT.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM J WE HAVE CONSENT ITEMS.
[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONSENT ITEMS THEY WANT TO WITHDRAW OR DO YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE? MOVE. APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA.ITEMS J.1 THROUGH J.14 AS PRESENTED.
THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS.
[Items K.1. & K.2. (Part 1 of 2)]
WE CAN OPEN UP ITEM K.1 AND K.2.AND LEXIN MURPHY IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.
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THERE WE GO. THANK YOU.DEVELOPMENT. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S EAST OF I-35W AND HERE'S DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD.
THEY ARE RUNNING THROUGH THE LOWER PORTION OF THE OVERALL PROJECT AND THERE IS A MORE DETAILED VIEW.
THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED.
THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CAMPUS, COMMERCIAL AND FLOODPLAIN.
AND THEN THE ZONING IS PD 98 AND INTERIM HOLDING.
BUT YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS SOMEWHAT AFFECTING PD 98.
AND SO THAT'S IN TURN ADDRESSING THIS OTHER REMAINING PIECE OF PD 98, CANYON FALLS VILLAGE THREE.
AND SO THERE WAS LANGUAGE WRITTEN WITHIN THAT PD THAT INDICATED THERE COULD BE SOME SHIFTING OF THE LAYOUT OF THOSE PROPERTIES IF THERE ARE SOME APPROVED ROAD CHANGES THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL APPROVES.
SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU ARE OKAY WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT AND THE OVERALL LAYOUT OF THIS ROAD, THESE ROADS, THEN THAT WILL BE REFLECTED ON THAT ADJACENT CANYON FALLS VILLAGE THREE PROJECT AS IT COMES FORWARD.
AND THAT IS WHAT THAT APPLICANT IS INTENDING THERE.
THEY'VE BEEN IN THE LOOP AND IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH THIS DEVELOPER AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE EXPECTING.
SO HERE IS THE MASTER PLAN EXHIBIT.
SO OVERALL IT'S APPROXIMATELY 200 ACRES OF LAND THAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.
AND SO THERE ARE ABOUT 157 ACRES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR CAMPUS COMMERCIAL.
AND THEN WHERE THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT COMES INTO PLAY, IS THIS PROPOSED 42.73 ACRES THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL RATHER THAN CAMPUS COMMERCIAL LAND USE? SO THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT ONLY APPLIES TO THAT PORTION, THE 42 ACRES.
THE REMAINDER OF THE PROPERTY IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PROPOSED LAND USE.
AGAIN, IT SHOWS THE EXISTING ZONING OF INTERIM HOLDING AND PROPOSED OF PD WITH CAMPUS COMMERCIAL USES, AND THEN AGAIN EXISTING ZONING OF INTERIM HOLDING PROPOSED FOR A PD WITH SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED USES.
THIS IS THE OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN.
YOU CAN SEE THERE IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF RETAIL NONRESIDENTIAL THAT'S PROPOSED WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.
OVERALL, IT'S MORE THAN 472,000FT² OF NONRESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE PROPOSED.
AND THEN FOR THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED PIECES THAT ARE PROPOSED FOR HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL.
THERE ARE 278 TOWNHOMES NOTED THERE.
ALTHOUGH IT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE PD TO NOT EXCEED 290.
SO EXCEPT AS PROVIDED IN THESE SECTIONS, IT WOULD FOLLOW THE TOWNS NORMALLY ALLOWED PERMITTED USES IN CAMPUS COMMERCIAL THERE WANTING TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL USES THAT WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE AN SUP TO BE ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND SO THAT'S DRUGSTORE PHARMACY GASOLINE SALES, BUT ONLY AS AN ACCESSORY USE.
AND THEN THE RETAIL LARGE TENANT, YOU KNOW, GOING ALL THE WAY FROM 25,000 TO MORE THAN 100,000FT².
WANTING TO MAKE THESE PERMITTED AUTO SERVICE ACCESSORY, INDOOR STORAGE AREA.
OUTDOOR SALES. TEMPORARY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE LIMITED.
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SO THE INDOOR STORAGE AREA THAT'S SPECIFIC TO ONE OF THE BIG BOXES THAT HAD EXPRESSED INTEREST IN KIND OF HAVING AN ONLINE SALES FULFILLMENT AREA.SO THE MAIN REASON FOR DOING THAT IS, IS TO ESTABLISH IT AS A USE SO IT CAN HAVE ITS OWN PARKING CALCULATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PARKING CALCULATION FOR AN INDOOR STORAGE AREA AND THEN THE OUTDOOR SALES TEMPORARY AND OUTDOOR STORAGE LIMITED, THOSE ARE NOT THEY'RE NOT PERMITTED JUST ANYWHERE.
IT'S ONLY AS NOTED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN.
SO I CAN SHOW YOU WHERE THOSE ARE CALLED OUT.
AND THE AUTO SERVICE ACCESSORY AND IT'S CALLING IT OUT.
IF THERE'S NO PARKING BETWEEN BUILDINGS IN THE STREET, THE MINIMUM SETBACK SHOULD BE 30FT.
SO THE TOWN CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM FRONT BACK OF 60FT WITH NO PARKING PERMITTED WITHIN THE 60FT.
I WANTED TO MENTION ALSO THAT THIS IS KIND OF A THIS IS A HOLDOVER STANDARD THAT WE HAVE THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS SINCE ADDRESSED AS FAR AS THERE USED TO BE A SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING STANDARD THAT WENT WITH THIS.
ALSO THAT REQUIRED SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AND CAMPUS INDUSTRIAL.
I'M NOT SURE WHY IT WAS ESTABLISHED DIFFERENTLY.
SO I WILL SAY THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I DON'T THINK STAFF WOULD HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
BASICALLY, WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING MIMICS WHAT THE TOWN WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE IN OUR STANDARDS.
NORMALLY WE WOULD REQUIRE 15FT.
THEY'RE PROPOSING TO HAVE NO MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
THE TOWN CODE NORMALLY PERMITS A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 50%.
AND HERE'S THAT PARKING RATIO FOR THE INDOOR STORAGE USE THAT I'D REFERENCED EARLIER.
SO TOWN'S ORDINANCE REQUIRES ALL LARGE DEVELOPMENTS CONSISTING OF 250 PARKING SPACES OR MORE.
HERE'S ALSO THE DEFINITION OF THE AUTO SERVICE.
ACCESSORY MEANS PROVIDING GENERAL REPAIR AND SERVICING OF MOTOR VEHICLES AS AN ACCESSORY.
USE TO A PRIMARY BUSINESS CAN INCLUDE OIL CHANGE, TIRE ROTATIONS, BRAKES, SHOCKS, TIRES, BATTERIES.
SERVICES WILL BE PROVIDED INDOORS.
ROLL UP DOORS MAY BE USED AND REMAIN OPEN DURING BUSINESS HOURS BUT ROLL UP DOORS OR SUBJECT TO THE TOWN'S STANDARD SECTION 82, 72, 74, WHICH PREVENTS THEM FROM FACING ON TO A MAJOR STREET.
THE INDOOR STORAGE AREA AN AREA WITH AN ESTABLISHMENT NOT ACCESSIBLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, DEVOTED FOR RETAIL AND GROCERY STORAGE AND PICKUP AND DISTRIBUTION OF ONLINE PURCHASES, MAY CONSIST OF ONLY UP TO 25% OF THE TOTAL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE OUTDOOR SALES, TEMPORARY SEASONAL SALES OF PRODUCTS OR RETAIL SALES OPERATING DURING OCTOBER THROUGH DECEMBER AND THEN.
AND THE REASON WHY THAT'S CALLED OUT IS BECAUSE THE TOWN HAS A RESTRICTION ON HAVING OUTDOOR SALES THAT ARE NOT UNDERCOVER, BASICALLY NOT UNDER ROOF.
AND SO THIS IS SEEKING TO ALLOW THAT.
BUT IDENTIFYING A SPECIFIC AREA WHERE YOU COULD DO IT.
THIS IS HOW HOME DEPOT HANDLED THAT REQUEST AS WELL.
THEY IDENTIFIED WHERE THEY WANTED TO DO IT ON A CONCEPT PLAN.
LARGE TENANT THAT'S THIS SIZE CAN'T BE VISIBLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY AND SHALL BE ENCLOSED WITH ORNAMENTAL METAL OR MASONRY SCREENING AND IN THE LOCATION IDENTIFIED ON THE CONCEPT PLAN. SO AGAIN, WHILE IT TECHNICALLY IS OUTDOORS, IT WILL BE SCREENED TO SOME EXTENT.
SO NOT JUST A BIG PILE OF MATERIAL THAT'S STORED OUTSIDE.
THEY ARE PROPOSING SOME MODIFICATIONS.
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SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT, IS THEY WANT TO ALLOW FOR SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED USES TO POTENTIALLY BE HERE AS WELL AS THE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE DID IN ANOTHER PROJECT RECENTLY WHEN LA ESTANCIA CAME FORWARD, WE DID THE SAME THING WHERE IT WAS APPROVED FOR TOWNHOMES, BUT MADE THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED AND ALLOWED USE AS WELL.SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.
THE TOWN CODE WOULD REQUIRE A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 5000FT² FOR THESE TYPE LOTS.
THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH WOULD BE 22FT FOR TOWNHOMES AND 30FT FOR DETACHED.
FRONT YARD SETBACKS SHALL BE TEN FEET FOR BOTH ATTACHED AND DETACHED.
TOWN CODE REQUIRES A MINIMUM FRONT YARD SETBACK OF 25FT.
ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT WITH THIS, THOUGH.
THEY'RE DOING THE SHORTER FRONT YARD, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE IT BE REAR ENTRY.
SO, THE ACTUAL PARKING SPACE WILL BE ALONG THE BACK.
THE MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE SHALL BE 80% FOR ATTACHED TOWNHOMES AND 65% FOR DETACHED DWELLINGS.
TOWN CODE ALLOWS A MAXIMUM OF 40%.
BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE USING THAT STANDARD WHEN IT COMES TO TOWNHOMES.
MINIMUM SIDE YARD FOR DETACHED DWELLINGS SHALL BE FIVE FEET ON ONE SIDE AND ZERO ON THE OTHER.
WE WOULD NORMALLY REQUIRE FIVE FEET ON EITHER SIDE.
THEY WILL STILL HAVE TO MEET THE TOWN'S BUILDING CODE REQUIREMENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE DISTANCE BETWEEN STRUCTURES AND WHETHER YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT EXTENDS, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING EXTENDING OVER A PROPERTY LINE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO, IT WILL STILL BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE BUILDING CODE.
AND THEN, AS I SAID BEFORE, A MAXIMUM OF 290 UNITS FOR EXCEPTIONS.
JUST A COUPLE THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING.
ONE IS FOR ROOF PITCH REQUIREMENT.
THE TOWN TYPICALLY REQUIRES WHEN IT'S 15,000FT² OR SMALLER BUILDINGS, FOR IT TO HAVE A ROOF PITCH THAT WOULD MIMIC MORE OF A RESIDENTIAL TYPE STRUCTURE.
ANOTHER EXCEPTION FOR LOT DEPTH.
I'LL SAY STAFF DOESN'T REALLY HAVE A CONCERN WITH THIS EITHER.
THAT THAT STANDARD WAS REALLY WRITTEN TO PREVENT FLAG LOTS TO WHERE YOU DON'T.
AND AND THAT CREATES A LOT OF PROBLEMS. BUT BEING AS THIS IS UNDEVELOPED LAND, I THINK IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE HERE.
I WILL SAY THAT'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE HAVE ON THE LIST TO BRING FORWARD WITH OUR NEXT LDR IS TO TIGHTEN UP THAT LANGUAGE, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE THAT HAVE HAD TO COME FORWARD TO ASK FOR THAT EXCEPTION LATELY, AND WE WANT TO MAKE IT MORE NARROWLY TAILORED TO FLAG LOTS.
THAT'S REALLY THE INTENTION, NOT JUST SOMEONE THAT HAS A VERY DEEP LOT TOPOGRAPHICAL SLOPE.
THEY ARE ALSO REQUESTING TOPOGRAPHICAL SLOPE TO IMPACT SLOPES BETWEEN 5 AND 12%.
THERE ARE NO SLOPES THAT ARE GREATER THAN 12%.
AND SO THIS IS THE EXHIBIT THAT CAME FROM THE EP.
I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS ANOTHER EXHIBIT.
THEY DID THAT MORE NARROWLY LOOKS AT JUST THAT OVER 8%, AND IT BECOMES A VERY SMALL AMOUNT.
SO THE THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SLOPES ON THE PROPERTY ARE LESS THAN 8%.
SO NOT WHAT THE TOWN WOULD QUALIFY AS STEEP SLOPES.
I DID WANT TO CALL OUT JUST A FEW CHANGES TO THE PLANS AND STANDARDS THAT STAFF WOULD SUGGEST THAT HAVE COME UP SINCE THE TIME THE PACKET WAS POSTED, SO IF COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER APPROVING THIS, I WOULD RECOMMEND IT BE WITH THE CHANGES NOTED ON SLIDE 13 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE UPDATED.
BUT WE REALIZED WHEN WE LOOKED AT IT TODAY THAT AT SOME POINT THAT FELL OFF THEIR CONCEPT PLAN.
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SO THIS IS JUST A SCREENSHOT FROM WHEN IT WENT TO P&Z FOR A WORK SESSION.IT IS STILL PROPOSED IN THAT AREA.
SO, AND THAT IS WHERE THEY WANTED TO KEEP IT.
THEY JUST ACCIDENTALLY REMOVED IT WHEN THEY TOOK OFF A DIFFERENT LABEL.
SO THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME OUT OF PNC.
THEY WANTED TO HAVE LIGHTING ALONG THE TRAIL AREA BEHIND THE RESIDENTIAL, AND SO WE HAD PUT IN THAT THERE WOULD BE LIGHTED BOLLARDS, BUT WE HADN'T GOTTEN BACK THE DETAIL YET FROM THE APPLICANT OF KIND OF MORE PRECISE MEASUREMENT OF HOW OFTEN THEY WOULD BE.
SO THEY DID GIVE US THAT INFORMATION TODAY.
LIGHTED BOLLARDS PLACED AT 100FT ON CENTER IS WHAT THEY WOULD PROPOSE.
SO WE UPDATED IT WITH THAT INFORMATION.
THEY AGREE TALKING TO THE POTENTIAL RETAILERS THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING WITH.
THEY WERE ALL FINE WITH THIS AND SO WANTED TO MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF THE PD AS WELL.
SO THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED AS A STANDARD ALSO.
AND THEN THIS IS ALSO A CLARIFICATION.
SQUARE FOOTAGE BY MORE THAN 20%.
BUT THEY STILL HAVEN'T COMPLETELY NARROWED DOWN WHERE THIS ROAD IS GOING TO CONNECT TO I-35.
IF NOT, THEY CAN CONNECT IT THROUGH THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT.
BUT IF IT DOES THAT, IT'S GOING TO IMPACT SOME OF THE BUILDING.
SO THEY'RE JUST CONCERNED THEY MIGHT HIT THAT 20%.
SO WE JUST PROPOSE PUTTING PER DESIGNATED BLOCK.
SO IT JUST GIVES THEM WE CAN LOOK AT A LARGER AREA.
WE'RE LOOKING AT THE OVERALL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BLOCK.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S THAT OVERALL CONCEPT PLAN THAT WE HAD LOOKED AT ORIGINALLY.
THEY ARE MEETING THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS, WITH THE EXCEPTION, I THINK THAT'S LISTED LATER ON THAT DUE TO THE SIZE OF THE TOWNHOME LOTS, THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME ORNAMENTAL TREES THAT COULD BE PLANTED JUST BECAUSE YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO FIT SOME OF THE LARGER TREES.
DO MULTIPLE OF THEM WITHIN A LOT.
THIS IS THEIR OPEN SPACE PLAN.
THERE YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE HAVING THIS DARKER GREEN, ABOUT 24 ACRES, PARKLAND, 10.4 ACRES.
SO I HAVE A SLIDE FOR THAT LATER ON.
BUT THEY DID GO TO THE PARKS BOARD AND GET A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
AND SO THE PARKS BOARD WANTED TO TAKE THIS AREA DOWN HERE IN THE KIND OF TEAL COLOR.
AND SO THAT'S IDENTIFIED THERE.
THEY'RE SHOWING THESE POLLINATOR AREAS THAT THEY WANT TO REALLY FOCUS ON THE MONARCH BUTTERFLIES.
THEY ALSO HAVE DETENTION PONDS, SIDEWALKS AND TRAILS.
HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT ARE PROPOSED.
THEY ALL MEET THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.
SO AGAIN, HERE'S IN-LINE RETAIL.
THERE COULD BE SOME VARIATION OF THESE, BUT IF THEY WANTED TO NOT MEET, YOU KNOW, THESE GENERAL CONCEPTS, IF THEY WERE WANTING TO USE DIFFERENT MATERIALS, FOR INSTANCE, OR SOME OTHER WAY, NOT COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES, THEN THAT WOULD NEED TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL AS A PD AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE, AGAIN, THEY DON'T KNOW, LIKE EVERY SINGLE RETAIL OR RESTAURANT BUSINESS THAT'S GOING TO COME IN AND SOME OF THEM MIGHT HAVE THEIR OWN IDEAS.
HERE WE GO WITH A BANK A BIG BOX RETAIL OTHER SIDE OF THE BIG BOX RETAIL.
THESE ARE SPECIFICALLY THE MATERIALS THEY'RE CALLING OUT, THE BRICK, STONE, CEMENTITIOUS SIDING SOME TILT WALL AND STUCCO METAL STANDING SEAM AND SOME METAL ACCENT OF DARK BRONZE.
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SO SOME ADDITIONAL MISCELLANEOUS STANDARDS THAT ARE PROPOSED AS PART OF THIS.SO AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT HOW ACCESSORY USE IS ALLOWED BY.
AND YOU CAN ONLY HAVE A MAX OF TWO, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S ACCESSORY OR STANDALONE.
SOME ADDITIONAL LIVE SCREENING AND A MINIMUM SIX FOOT TALL MASONRY WALL OF SCREENING SHALL BE REQUIRED FOR BUILDING NUMBER 4.06, AS A LOADING AREA FOR THIS BUILDING FACES DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD, ENHANCED PAVEMENT, PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALKS REQUIRED AT MAJOR INTERSECTIONS, AND ENHANCED SCREENING AROUND THAT OUTDOOR STORAGE.
THE APPLICANT IS NOT REQUESTING THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS ANYMORE.
SO THAT'S JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HOW THE APPLICATION HAS EVOLVED OVER TIME.
AND I KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT IS GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY'VE REMOVED THOSE AS WELL.
AND THEN I AND THEN CHANGED THE ACTUAL TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL USE PROPOSED ALSO AND REDUCED THAT.
SO THIS JUST SHOWS THAT AREA WHERE THE MASONRY SCREENING WALL HONOR WILL BE, WILL BE PROPOSED, BECAUSE IT'S ADJACENT TO THIS PARK AREA AND TO DENTON CREEK.
AND THIS SHOWS WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE.
THIS HAS THE KNEE WALL WITH THE ORNAMENTAL METAL ON TOP.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE THEY CAN HAVE SOME STORAGE OF LIKE MULCH OR THAT SORT OF OUTDOOR MATERIAL.
PHASING PLAN. SO THIS IS A NONBINDING PHASING PLAN.
THIS IS JUST THE KIND OF HOW THEY EXPECT IT TO DEVELOP.
SO IT'S NOT ACTUALLY CALLED OUT WITH A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD WITHIN THE PD.
IT'S JUST SHOWING THEY'RE EXPECTING THIS SIDE OF THE BIG BOX AND SOME OF THOSE RETAIL SPACES TO GO WITH THE TOWNHOMES FIRST, FOLLOWED BY THE ADDITIONAL BIG BOX AND OTHER RETAIL AS PHASE TWO AND THREE OVER HERE.
AND THEN THE LAST PHASE COMING HERE ADJACENT TO THE PARK.
I THINK THEIR GOAL IS TO HAVE KIND OF A NUMBER OF RESTAURANT TYPE USES HERE SURROUNDING THIS OVERALL DETENTION POND KIND OF AMENITY AREA AND MAKE THIS MORE ACCESSIBLE TO THE RESIDENTIAL AND KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, A MORE FAMILY FRIENDLY SPACE THAN THE BIG BOX, YOU KNOW, MORE OF LIKE, CAN SIT DOWN AND ENJOY THE, THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND YOU.
SO, AS I MENTIONED, THEY DID GO TO THE PARKS BOARD IN OCTOBER.
THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF PARKLAND, DEDICATION OF 9.86 ACRES AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES IN THE AMOUNT OF 402,520 MINUS ANY PARK FEE CREDITS FOR THE 0.58 ACRE POCKET PARK ON THE MONARCH PLAN, AND PROPER AMENITIES BEING INSTALLED FOR THE MONARCH MULTI-USE DEVELOPMENT.
SO THERE IS THAT WAS PART OF THAT.
THERE IS A PARK THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE TOWNHOME SPACE.
I'M NOT SURE. MAYBE IT'S HERE.
IT WAS POINTING AT THE WRONG THING.
SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.
AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS BOTH A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND A PROPOSED PD.
I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.
I HAD A QUICK QUESTION BACK ON SLIDE EIGHT.
IT'S THE THIRD BULLET ON ITEM THREE.
THERE SHOULD BE NO MINIMUM LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
AND THEN IN ITALICS, THE TOWN CODE PERMITS A MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE OF 50%.
AND I JUST WONDERED WHY THEY WOULD MENTION NO MINIMUM.
BUT THEN WE TALK ABOUT OUR MAXIMUM.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S JUST A TYPO ON OUR.
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OKAY. MAXIMUM.OKAY. SO NO MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE REQUIREMENT.
IS THAT FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL? I ASSUME IT'S JUST FOR RESIDENTIAL.
LET ME MAKE SURE I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD.
IF Y'ALL HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PULL UP THE PD DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
BUT I DON'T WANT YOU TO JUST HAVE TO STARE AT ME.
SO IF Y'ALL HAD ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU WANT TO ASK WHILE I'M DOING THAT.
WELL, I DID HAVE ONE OTHER REALLY MINOR QUESTION.
SO WITH THE SHORTENED FRONT YARDS AND THE LENGTHENED BACKYARDS, DID WE VERIFY THAT THERE WOULD BE ENOUGH PARKING SPACE IN THE BACK SO A VEHICLE COULD STAY OUTSIDE IN ITS OWN DRIVEWAY? YES, IT'S 20FT ALONG THE BACK.
IT'S JUST NOT CALLED OUT AS A SEPARATE THING BECAUSE THAT'S THE TOWN'S NORMAL STANDARDS.
OKAY. IT'S NOT A REQUESTED CHANGE TO THAT.
BUT YES, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, STAFF LET THEM KNOW THAT THAT THAT WAS A PRIORITY FOR COUNCIL TO ENSURE THAT YOU HAD ENOUGH DRIVEWAY TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO PARK OUTSIDE OF YOUR GARAGE.
THANK YOU. LEXIN OUTSIDE STORAGE.
TEMPORARY. THAT'S LIKE CHRISTMAS TREE SALES, BASICALLY.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? IT CAN BE. I MEAN, IT COULD BE OTHER STUFF TOO.
IT'S KIND OF SEASONAL. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF YOU WANTED TO PUMPKINS OR I MEAN, IT'S OCTOBER TO DECEMBER, SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE PUMPKINS AND CHRISTMAS TREES IS WHAT WE USUALLY SEE.
IS THAT ACCOUNTED FOR IN ONE OF THESE? IS THAT A LIMITED OUTSIDE? YES, THAT WOULD BE LIMITED TO THAT.
THAT AREA IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAN JUST RIGHT THERE IN FRONT.
SO THEY CAN'T HAVE PATIO FURNITURE OUT THERE IN THE SPRING.
THAT WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED. OKAY.
THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT ABOUT LANDSCAPING MATERIALS? BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ANOTHER BIG BOX WHO HAS AN OUTDOOR AREA FOR PLANTS AND SUCH.
SO LIMITING IT TO THOSE MORE WINTER MONTHS.
SO THAT'S ONLY FOR THE OUTDOOR SALES FOR THE RIGHT.
AND I GUESS I MEAN THOSE THINGS ARE FOR OUTDOOR DISPLAY.
THERE WAS TEMPORARY AND THERE WAS LIMITED TO DIFFERENT USES.
SO TEMPORARY I THINK WAS LIKE THE CHRISTMAS TREE FARM.
YEAH. THE LIMITED WAS LIKE THE GARDEN CENTER.
OR IS IT JUST MULCH BEING STORED.
IT'S REALLY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
LET ME I GUESS I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE BIG BOX THAT'S JUST SOUTH OF 407, AND THEY HAVE GARDEN PLANTS IN THE KIND OF PARKING LOT AREA DURING THE SPRING MONTHS, PRIMARILY.
WELL, IN WINTER TOO, I GUESS THEY COULD.
SO I JUST WONDERED IF LIMITING THAT WOULD.
OH, THEY HAVE THEM ALL YEAR ROUND.
RIGHT. SO, THEY HAVE AN ACTUAL GARDEN CENTER THAT'S IDENTIFIED.
THAT WOULD BE BUT IT WOULD BE PRESUMABLY ENCLOSED.
SO IT DOESN'T NEED SPECIAL PERMISSION.
BUT IT WAS IDENTIFIED ON THEIR PLAN AS A GARDEN CENTER.
AND THEN THIS AREA IN THIS AREA WHERE THEY WERE, I THINK IT'S RIGHT HERE WHERE THEY ARE.
THAT'S WHERE THE OUTDOOR LIMITED.
IT CAN ONLY BE IN THAT CERTAIN AREA.
AND THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THE MASONRY WALL WITH THE ORNAMENTAL SCREENING ON TOP.
SO THAT'S LIKE WHERE THE MULCH IS GOING TO GO.
SO IF THEY NEED TO OVERFLOW FROM OUT OF THE GARDEN CENTER INTO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
IT WILL GO IN THAT AREA THAT THEY'VE KIND OF DESIGNED AND IDENTIFIED ON THE PLAN.
SO NOTHING IN THE FRONT OF THE STORE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN OTHER BIG BOXES.
OKAY. BECAUSE IT'S STILL UNDER ROOF.
BUT I GUESS I'M ASKING BECAUSE I'M NOT OPPOSED TO HAVING THAT SMALL AREA THAT WE'RE USED TO SEEING IN ONE OF OUR OTHER BIG BOXES IN THE FRONT THAT JUST HAS THE GARDEN PLANT TYPE THINGS. AND I DIDN'T WANT OUR PD TO BE TOO RESTRICTIVE IN THAT REGARD FOR A USE SUCH AS THAT.
AND THEN LIKE HOME DEPOT HAS, THEY WROTE INTO THEIR PD.
SOME OTHER BUSINESSES JUST DO IT.
AND THEN WE SOMETIMES GET COMPLAINTS THAT GO TO CODE ENFORCEMENT.
I MEAN, WHEN THE APPLICANT COMES OUT, IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT AND WANTED TO PROPOSE, IDENTIFY A BIGGER AREA OR SAYING THAT AREA WHERE THEY SAID SEASONAL ONLY SALES IF YOU WANTED TO MAKE IT ALLOWED ALL THE TIME.
I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
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WANTED TO DO THE SAME THING, I THINK I WOULD BE INCLINED TO, BUT THEY'D HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK, YEAH, BUT I'D BE.I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE TOO MUCH OF A PROBLEM.
OKAY. IN MY OPINION IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE USER.
ALL RIGHT. YEAH. I'LL LET YOU FINISH THIS ONE.
LEXIN. THEN I HAVE A FEW MORE ON SOME OF THE OTHER SLIDES.
IT'S SUCH A BECAUSE IT'S 200 ACRES.
THE FILES ARE SO BIG THAT IT TAKES FOREVER TO SEW.
THAT'S WHERE THAT STANDARD IS.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST FOR TRACTS A AND B WITHIN THE CAMPUS COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
IT'S ON PAGE TWO AND THREE OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS IN THE PACKET.
OKAY. SO, IT'S NOT FOR THE RESIDENTIAL THEN.
SO WHAT IT SAYS IS THEY CAN EXCEED THE TYPICAL LOT COVERAGE IN THE COMMERCIAL AREAS.
BUT THE EXHIBITS DON'T REALLY REFLECT THAT.
RIGHT. UNLESS WE'RE COUNTING PARKING LOTS.
WE DON'T COUNT THE PARKING LOT INTO IT, BUT.
SO PRACTICALLY SPEAKING THOUGH, THERE IS A LIMIT BECAUSE WE HAVE PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
RIGHT. YEAH. THEY'RE GOING TO I MEAN THEY'RE STILL HAVING TO MEET ALL OF OUR PARKING REQUIREMENTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THAT, BUT THEY'RE NOT REQUESTING A PARKING DEVIATION.
THEY'RE WITHIN THE 20% ALLOWABLE FOR A MAXIMUM PARKING FOR THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
SO RIGHT. YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET YOU STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THE REQUIRED PARKING.
YOU STILL HAVE TO MEET OUR LANDSCAPE STANDARDS.
THEY HAVEN'T ASKED TO CHANGE THAT.
20% OF THE FRONT YARD LAND OR 15 TO 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER, DEPENDING ON WHERE YOU ARE.
FRONT YARD LANDSCAPING, ALL OF OUR, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF HAVE TO HAVE A TREE WITHIN 50FT.
SO THEY'RE MEETING ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS.
IS THAT RIGHT? OR DO WE KNOW BECAUSE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, WE'RE DOING IT BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE IF THE AGAIN, THE BUILDINGS COULD CHANGE BY UP TO 20%.
IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT IT COULD NEVER HAPPEN, BUT I WAS TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF HOW CLOSE TO THE 50% MIGHT WE BE JUST BY MERIT OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? DO YOU THINK IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE 75%? 60 OR ARE WE GOING TO BE KIND OF CLOSE TO 50? BUT WE JUST WANT TO PREVENT HAVING TO COME BACK AGAIN.
I WOULD ASK THE APPLICANT THEIR PARTICULAR REASONING FOR CHOOSING THAT AS THE STANDARD.
BUT I'LL SAY WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING MEETS THE TOWN STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING AND LANDSCAPING.
SO IT, IT MEETS OUR DEVELOPMENT EXPECTATIONS.
AND MAYBE A QUESTION FOR BRYN IF WE DO ALLOW THIS EXCEPTION AS REQUESTED, IS THERE ANY LANGUAGE THAT WE SHOULD INCLUDE TO REFLECT THAT ALL OTHER TOWN STANDARDS MUST STILL BE MET, SO THAT THERE WILL THAT BE THAT BACKSTOP, FOR INSTANCE, FOR THE PARKING? I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL JUST OUT OF AN ABUNDANCE OF CLARITY.
OKAY. COULD YOU SUGGEST THE WORDING WHEN THE TIME IS APPROPRIATE? THANK YOU. OKAY.
TOMMY ANSWERED THE OTHER QUESTION.
SO I'M NOT SEARCHING FOR ANYTHING, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THIS COMPUTER COULD NOT OPEN THE DOCUMENT.
LET'S START WITH THE MASTER PLAN.
SO WHEN I WENT TO GIS TO LOOK AT WHAT THE MASTER PLAN WAS CURRENTLY AND EXACTLY WHAT WAS BEING CHANGED, THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO CATEGORIES THAT WERE KIND OF OVERLAID ONTO THE SAME. THERE WAS THE DENTON CREEK AREA PLAN.
AND THEN THERE WAS THE LAND USE OF CAMPUS COMMERCIAL.
SO CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE DENTON CREEK AREA PLAN AND WHAT KIND OF RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN THAT AREA? SURE. SO YEAH, THE DENTON CREEK AREA PLAN, IT IS JUST LOOKING AT A SMALLER SECTION OF THE OVERALL TOWN TO KIND OF IDENTIFY THINGS THAT MAY BE SPECIFIC TO THIS AREA AS WELL AS THEN IT ALSO SHOWS THE SAME LAND USE INFORMATION.
AND SO AND YOU HAD TALKED ABOUT SPECIFICALLY OR SPECIFICALLY WHAT TYPE OF RESIDENTIAL.
SO HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL IS IDENTIFIED AS AN APPROPRIATE RESIDENTIAL LAND USE WITHIN THAT DENTON CREEK DISTRICT PLAN AS WELL? SO THE THE OTHER KIND OF THINGS THAT IT, IT CALLS OUT AGAIN, ARE JUST KIND OF MEANT TO BE MORE SPECIFIC TO THIS PART OF TOWN, LIKE IT TALKS ABOUT, YOU KNOW,
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WITH THE KIND OF THIS INTERSECTION OF DENTON CREEK AND I-35W.YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REALLY HIGH IMPACT INTERSECTION THAT THAT IS VERY VISIBLE.
SO YOU SHOULD MAKE SURE TO USE REALLY HIGH QUALITY CONSTRUCTION.
SO, THE DENTON CREEK AREA PLAN SPECIFICALLY MENTIONS THIS ROAD.
DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD IS A TOWN INSURANCE BASICALLY, AND AN ARCHITECTURAL IMPACT ZONE.
RIGHT. SO THAT MEANS THAT WE CAN ENFORCE BUILDING STANDARDS AND OR BUILDING MATERIALS STANDARDS IN THAT ARCHITECTURAL IMPACT ZONE, BECAUSE THOSE WERE EXCLUDED. I MEAN, THAT ALL COULD COME DOWN TO A FUTURE COURT CASE.
BUT, BRANDON, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
JUST QUICKLY, MY RECOLLECTION OF THAT STATUTE IS IN ORDER TO HAVE AN AREA OF ARCHITECTURAL IMPORTANCE, IT HAD TO HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED PRIOR TO THE ADOPTION OF THAT LEGISLATION, WHICH THIS DOES, BECAUSE THIS AREA PLAN HAS BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR SOME TIME, IT HASN'T CHANGED.
IF YES. SO THERE'S ALWAYS, AS LEXIN POINTED OUT IT, THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS AS TO WHAT A COURT MIGHT CONSIDER PREVIOUSLY ADOPTED AREA OF ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS DECLARATIONS AND WHAT THAT IS.
BUT I THINK WE CAN CERTAINLY ARTICULATE SOME ARGUMENT THAT WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S RESISTED, WE'LL DEAL WITH IT AT THE TIME.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE BUILDING RENDERINGS LOOK GREAT, AND SO DID WE ACCOUNT FOR WHATEVER KIND OF MONUMENTATION AND DETAIL THAT NEEDS TO BE IN PLACE HERE IN ORDER TO MEET OUR STANDARDS FOR OUR TOWN ENTRANCE THAT, YES, STAFF REVIEWED AGAINST THE AREA PLAN STANDARDS.
WHEN YOU GET INTO MONUMENTATION, THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE AT SOMEWHAT OF A GRAY AREA AS FAR AS WE CAN ALWAYS REQUIRE EASEMENTS FOR MONUMENTATION.
BUT I DO BELIEVE THE APPLICANT IS INTENDING TO DO THAT.
SO THE RESIDENTIAL IS CONSISTENT WITH THE AREA PLAN.
WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IN THAT CASE? SO THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING I WOULD MAYBE CALL ON BRYN FOR JUST BECAUSE IN CASES WHERE YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE INFLUENCING OR IMPACTING A LARGER AREA, I WASN'T I WASN'T CERTAIN IF COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT TYPE OF MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, OR IF IT'S SOMETHING, SINCE IT WOULD BE RELATED TO LAND USE, THAT COULD ALWAYS BE REQUESTED.
SO THERE ARE PROCEDURES IN OUR CODE THAT ALLOW FOR MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS TO BE REQUESTED.
AND SO I THINK WE WOULD WANT TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY THROUGHOUT.
BUT I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO, TO MAINTAIN CONSISTENCY.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR QUESTION IS TONIGHT WHETHER WE NEED TO AMEND AN ADDITIONAL.
NO, IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE WE DO, BUT IT'S I'M ASKING BECAUSE AT PNC THERE WAS SOME PNC.
THIS MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT GOT THREE NAYS AT PNC.
AND IT DOES IT DOES CONFORM TO THE AREA PLAN.
BUT THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT IN OUR AREA PLAN.
SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS THAT IT'S REALLY NOT EXACTLY RELEVANT TO THE PROPOSAL.
BUT IF IN A STATE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT CAME AND THAT'S NOT IN THE DENTON CREEK AREA PLAN, HOW WOULD WE HANDLE THAT? IS IT JUST BASICALLY MODIFY THE AREA PLAN AND THE MASTER PLAN IN ONE REQUEST? SO ACTUALLY, ONE OTHER.
SORRY, I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS, AND I'LL JUST THROW THAT OUT IN CASE IT'S HELPFUL TO YOU.
BUT ONE THING THAT OUR OVERALL MASTER PLAN DOES SAY IS THAT YOU CAN DO A LESS INTENSE RESIDENTIAL DENSITY WITHOUT REQUESTING A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO I THINK BASED ON THAT, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO ACTUALLY AMEND THE MASTER PLAN TO DO THAT.
VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THAT'S I GUESS THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION I WAS LOOKING FOR.
OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT SLIDE.
WE DID SLIDE EIGHT ALREADY. SLIDE 15.
REAL QUICK JUST TO, I'M GOING TO JUST TOUCH ON THIS REAL FAST.
SO THESE STREET NAMES IT'S A PET PEEVE OF MINE.
CHANGING STREET NAMES WHEN IT GOES FROM DIXON TO VALLEY RIDGE.
ET CETERA. ET CETERA. SO IS LANSDOWNE PARKWAY CLEVELAND GIBBS ROAD.
IS THAT TO CONNECT TO CLEVELAND? GIBBS TO THE SOUTH? YES. OKAY. SO ARE THESE ROAD NAMES LOCKED IN? NO, NOT BASED ON THIS PD.
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ANYWAY, THESE ARE JUST USED AS PLACEHOLDERS WITHIN THE PD.THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY DETERMINED UNTIL THE TIME OF PLATTING.
EADS ROAD. I'D PREFER IF WE PICKED ONE.
WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE OR ACCEPTABLE FOR US TO HAVE A CLAUSE THAT SAYS WE'D LIKE CONSISTENT STREET NAMES, BOTH IN THE DEVELOPMENT AND WITH THE ROADS THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT? I CERTAINLY THINK THAT'S A DEVELOPMENT STANDARD THAT COULD BE PROPOSED.
YOU MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE APPLICANT.
I DON'T KNOW, AND WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE CONSISTENT MEANS.
SO SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
YES. SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT WITH THE APPLICANT.
IT'S JUST IT'S NOT A DEAL BREAKER.
JUST BUT SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT HAD SHARED WITH ME RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING WAS THAT NORTH LAKE, SHE SAID, WAS ACTUALLY PLANNING TO RENAME THAT ROAD INTO TWO DIFFERENT NAMES.
AND I MEAN LANSDOWNE, I GUESS, TURNS INTO AVALON.
I JUST PRESTON ROAD GOES FROM DALLAS ALL THE WAY TO SHERMAN.
YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE WE CAN'T DO IT.
BUT AGAIN, IT'S NOT SUPER IMPORTANT.
LET'S GO TO SLIDE 27, WHICH IS THE PHASING.
NOW, THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT TO ME.
SO YOU SAID THAT THE PHASING IS CONCEPTUAL.
IT'S NOT BINDING. THERE'S NOTHING IN THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
SO IS THAT TO SAY THAT THIS RESIDENTIAL COMPONENT COULD BE BUILT AND NOTHING ELSE AT ALL? IN THEORY, YES.
I THINK THE APPLICANT WILL PROBABLY WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY THEY THINK THAT'S NOT REALISTIC.
SO ALL RIGHT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT WITH THE APPLICANT.
SO THIS PARK, THIS PARK, POCKET PARK, THIS IS GOING TO BE A TOWN.
IT'LL BE MAINTAINED BY THE HOA.
SO IT'S A PRIVATE PARK THAT'S PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE.
SO I JUST HAD ONE ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
THERE WAS A SIDE YARD FOR DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY.
DID YOU SAY ZERO FOOT SIDE YARD? YES. IS THAT A DETACHED.
IS THAT LIKE A. IT'S ON ONE SIDE, RIGHT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE FIVE FEET ON THE OTHER.
SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE IF SOMEONE SCOOTS THEIR, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE AND YOU SCOOT THIS BUILDING ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE, TO THE ZERO, THEN THE NEXT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST FIVE FEET OVER.
BUT THAT WAS FOR THE I'M SORRY WASN'T IT SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WITH? WELL, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
SO CAN BOTH HAVE THE SAME ZERO TO WHERE THERE'S LIKE A SHARED WALL AND THEN THEY'RE FIVE FEET.
NO. IT'S ALWAYS ZERO AND FIVE ZERO BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THE BUILDING CODE.
SO YEAH, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE AT LEAST THE FIVE FEET BETWEEN THE STRUCTURES.
YOU CAN ASK THE APPLICANT WHY THEY WHY THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT PARTICULAR ONE.
I MEAN YOU KNOW, NORMALLY WE WOULD JUST PROPOSE FIVE FEET ON EITHER OR.
BUT LIKE I SAID, I THINK THAT IT'S NOT I COULDN'T REALLY SPEAK TO IT.
IT WASN'T LIKE THIS IS STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION.
WE'RE JUST PRESENTING WHAT WAS PROPOSED.
YEAH, IT'S GIVING ONE LOT OF SIDE YARD.
OKAY. THE OTHER ONE WOULD HAVE A SIDE YARD.
IT WOULD JUST BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
YEAH. OKAY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I WAS ACTUALLY ONE OTHER WAS THE ELEVATION IMPACT.
CAN YOU SHOW THAT SLIDE ONE MORE TIME? THE WHICH ONE? I'M SORRY.
THAT'S ALL I NEEDED. ALL QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT AND THEN MAYBE FOR YOU AFTER THAT.
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GOOD EVENING AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR ABOUT A YEAR.
WITH THE TOWN CLOSELY AND HAVE APPRECIATED WORKING WITH STAFF, BEING VERY RESPONSIVE, THE DIFFERENT CONSULTANTS THAT THE TOWN BROUGHT IN FOR THE STUDIES, THEY WERE VERY RESPONSIVE, AND THIS HAS BEEN A VERY GOOD PROCESS.
I HAVE WE'VE ENJOYED THAT AS A TEAM.
MCADAMS. MY NAME IS RANDI, RANDI RIVERA, A PLANNER WITH MCADAMS 4400 STATE HIGHWAY 121, SUITE 800.
I'M HERE TONIGHT WITH OUR CLIENT.
ERIC SCHMIDT'S THE OWNER/DEVELOPER.
SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT TONIGHT AND FINALLY GETTING TO THIS POINT.
SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS AREA.
I THINK WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE BUT JUST KNOWING THE COMPETITIVE LANDSCAPE THAT THIS MARKET HAS ALONG THE 35 CORRIDOR AND THINGS ARE BREAKING GROUND, YOU KNOW, NEARLY ALL THE TIME YOU'RE HEARING NEW ANNOUNCEMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT OVER HERE AND SOME STUFF IN DENTON.
THEY'RE WORKING ON PLANNING THAT COMMERCIAL PART OF THE LANDMARK AREA.
BUT SO THIS YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT A GREAT AREA BETWEEN NORTH LAKE ARGYLE, FLOWER MOUND AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY SOME SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IT IS 200 ACRES THAT THE TOWN HAS ACQUIRED.
HAS ANNEXED. SORRY, RIGHT ON THE 35 FRONTAGE.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME, AND PART OF IT IS INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO IT'S LIKE ALL THESE THINGS ARE STARTING TO COME TOGETHER.
IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND JURISDICTIONS REALLY MOVE IN THIS AREA.
AND WE ARE VERY BLESSED TO BE A PART OF IT.
BUT JUST THIS PROPERTY WAS ANNEXED AS PART OF A LARGER ANNEXATION IN 99.
AND THIS IS THE TIME TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND IT'S THE GATEWAY INTO TOWN.
SO, WE TOOK, WE FELT LIKE THAT WAS SOMETHING TO REALLY FOCUS ON.
THIS IS A REALLY A FOCAL POINT FOR FLOWER MOUND ON 35.
AND SO WE WANT TO ATTRACT TARGETED COMMERCIAL AND RETAIL DEVELOPMENTS FOR THIS PROPERTY, ALSO DEVELOP AND IMPROVE COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT CREATE A FAVORABLE BUSINESS ENVIRONMENT, ENCOURAGE HIGH QUALITY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
AND SO THOSE ARE THE GOALS STATED IN THE DENTON CREEK PLAN.
AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS PROPOSAL DOES THAT.
IT'S JUST A GREAT TIME TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS.
SO HERE'S THE TIMELINE THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH.
YOU KNOW, WHEN GOING THROUGH ACTUALLY MAKING THE FIRST APPLICATION IN DECEMBER OF 23.
SO IT HAS REALLY BEEN A FULL YEAR, WHICH IS A, THAT'S A GOOD THAT'S A GOOD TIME FRAME.
HAD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ABOUT A YEAR AGO AND DID THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION PLAN.
WENT TO A WORK SESSION WITH PARKS BOARD.
WE ACTUALLY WENT TO A COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS WITH PARKS.
AND THEN WE WENT TO A FINAL PARKS BOARD MEETING BACK IN OCTOBER.
PREPARED THE TIAS WITH THE CONSULTANTS, WORKING CLOSELY WITH STAFF ON THAT ONE AS WELL.
AND THEN FINALLY GETTING TO THIS TO THIS POINT, WE DID A P AND Z WORK SESSION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ON HERE, BUT WE DID DO THAT AS WELL AT LEXIN TALKED ABOUT.
SO THE SITE ITSELF, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IT? I KNOW A LOT OF US HAVE DRIVEN UP AND DOWN 35 ALSO CLEVELAND GIBBS AND KNOWING THAT IT IS OPEN PRAIRIE.
IT'S ROLLING HILLS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TOPO KIND OF FADING OFF OF FROM THE HIGHWAY DOWN TO THE EAST, ABOUT 80FT OF FALL THERE, BUT IT IS WIDE OPEN LANDSCAPE, NEARLY, YOU KNOW, VOID OF VEGETATION.
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AND SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THESE PHOTOS ARE SHOWING.SO IT'S GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE TOPO MAKES IT A BIT CHALLENGING FOR RETAIL.
BUT THE VEGETATION OUT THERE MAKES IT YOU KNOW, CONDUCIVE FOR THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
LEXIN. THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT.
AND JUST TOUCHING ON THIS THE HIGH DENSITY HERE, WHEN YOU KIND OF LOOK AT WHAT IS SURROUNDING MONARCH, IT IS A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY, LIKE IN A C SHAPE.
THERE'S THESE PIECES IN CANYON FALLS THAT ARE GOING THROUGH SOME PRELIMINARY PLANNING RIGHT NOW.
THAT WILL BE UNDER I THINK THEY ARE UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN AVALON IS ANOTHER ARGYLE DEVELOPMENT WITH 50 FOOT LOTS.
SO, IT, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THIS, THIS RESIDENTIAL THAT IS SURROUNDING THE, THE SITE BECAUSE THE ACCESS AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE TO SERVE THAT. AND THIS SITE'S BEEN WAITING SINCE 2001 FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO BE THERE.
THE ROOFTOPS HAVE COME, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE COMING.
AND OUR CLIENT HAS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS WITH DIFFERENT USERS ON THIS ONE.
AND THEN TALKING ABOUT THE 35 CORRIDOR.
YOU KNOW, WE EVERYBODY'S KIND OF BEEN WATCHING TEXTILE.
LIKE WHAT? WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY SEND OUT THEIR REPORTS.
WHAT'S THE TIMING OF THIS PROJECT? THIS IS 35 W SOUTH FOR THE DENTON COUNTY, TEX.
DOT OFFICE. THAT'S THE NAME OF THE PROJECT.
AND THEY HAVE 60% DESIGN PLANS RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT IS FOR THE FRONTAGE ROADS AND THE OVERPASSES AND SO ON.
REALLY, BUT THIS NORTHERN BRIDGE IS DENTON CREEK, AND THE SOUTHERN BRIDGE IS CLEVELAND GIBBS.
THESE BRIDGES ARE THE KIND OF WHAT TXDOT IS DOING THESE DAYS WITH THAT TEX DOT TURNAROUND.
SO THIS RIGHT SIDE IS THE NORTHBOUND.
THE LEFT SIDE IS THE SOUTHBOUND FRONTAGE ROAD.
THE PROJECT INCLUDES BOTH THE BRIDGES AND THE FRONTAGE ROAD AND SO ON.
AND SO TALKING THROUGH THIS THERE WILL BE A BRIDGE.
1171 A BRIDGE AT CLEVELAND GIBBS.
AND OBVIOUSLY THERE'S A BRIDGE AT 407.
AND SO WE'VE ALSO INDICATED ON HERE, BASED ON THE 60% DESIGN SET WHERE THOSE RAMPS ARE GOING TO BE RETAIL USERS ARE VERY, THEY'RE VERY OPINIONATED AND WANT TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE ACCESS IS COMING FROM.
AND SO RIGHT AFTER YOU'RE GOING NORTHBOUND, RIGHT AFTER YOU CROSS UNDER 1171 ON THE MAIN LANES, YOU CAN TAKE, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO TAKE AN OFF RAMP TO STAY ON THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND THEN THE NEXT THERE'S ALSO AN ON RAMP RIGHT AFTER 1171, BUT THEN THE NEXT OFF RAMP, THE 407 OFF RAMP IS RIGHT HERE ON THE NORTHBOUND SIDE OF THE MAIN LANES.
THEN THERE'S ONE MORE ON RAMP THERE, WHICH THIS ALSO HELPS TOO, BECAUSE ONCE IF LET'S SAY YOU YOU'RE IN THE MAIN LANES AND YOU'RE PASSING THIS PROJECT, YOU CAN DECIDE TO TAKE THAT OFF RAMP AND THEN CIRCLE BACK.
IF THIS CONNECTION IS MADE AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN SOME ANOTHER SLIDE.
THEN GOING SOUTHBOUND, WE HAVE OUR OFF RAMP RIGHT AFTER 407, AN ON RAMP RIGHT AFTER 407.
SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO THE SITE FROM TRAVELING FROM THE NORTH, YOU WOULD WANT TO EXIT THERE, BE ABLE TO COME DOWN THE FRONTAGE ROAD, TAKE THE OVERPASS, TURN LEFT ONTO DENTON CREEK OR LEFT ONTO SCHMITZ THERE.
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AND IF YOU MISS THAT AGAIN, YOU CAN DO AN EXIT HERE, GO DOWN TO 1171, DO THE TEXAS U-TURN AND COME RIGHT BACK UP.SO ACCESS IS GREAT PER THE TXDOT PLANS.
CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THEM GET THIS GOING AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE HAD NUMEROUS ONGOING MEETINGS WITH TXDOT.
MY CLIENT IS CONTINUING TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH TXDOT TO TALK ABOUT THE TIMING.
TXDOT HAS TALKED TO US ABOUT THEY'RE WATCHING THE ZONING CLOSELY.
BUT ALSO, THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY, LIKELIHOOD THAT THIS COULD BE A BREAKOUT PROJECT.
THAT THEY COULD TURN ON A PORTION OR A SEGMENT OF THE FRONTAGE ROAD SOONER THAN LATER FROM THE REST OF THE OVERALL 35 W SOUTH PROJECT TO BE ABLE TO TURN THIS SITE ON SOONER.
AND SO THERE'S THINGS THAT NEED TO CONTINUE TO MOVE AND HAPPEN AND APPROVALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT THEY ARE THEY'RE PAYING ATTENTION AND THEY'RE BEING VERY RECEPTIVE, RESPONSIVE TO US.
WE'RE IN DIRECT CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ALMOST BIWEEKLY AT THIS POINT.
I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT HERE, BECAUSE THIS IS A GOOD GRAPHIC TO SORT OF SPEAK TO THAT.
SO CLEVELAND GIBBS IS A NORTH LAKE AND THEN IT CROSSES OVER AND IT'S CLEVELAND GIBBS UP HERE.
THAT'S CLEVELAND GIBBS. TODAY THERE WAS A DISCUSSION AT NORTH LAKE THAT I HAD WITH THE TOWN MANAGER THAT THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THEY MIGHT SPLIT THAT NAME AND SAY, CLEVELAND'S CLEVELAND WOULD BE THE NAME ON THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH IS WEST OF 35.
AND THEN GIBBS WOULD BE THE NAME ON THE EAST SIDE OF 35, THE SOUTH SIDE.
SO, THEY'D BREAK IT UP INTO CLEVELAND AND GIBBS.
AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A CONVERSATION.
AND SO YOU KNOW, THEN THERE'S MULKEY OVER ON HERE IN NORTH LAKE THEN.
AND SO THERE'S IT'S INTERESTING.
ALL THESE JURISDICTIONS ARE COMING TOGETHER.
SOME OF THESE NAMES HAVE ALREADY BEEN PLATTED.
THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR LIKE CLEVELAND GIBBS HAS BEEN THERE FOREVER.
AND SO HOW CAN WE WORK THROUGH THAT? AND I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT STANDARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE CAN CONTROL WHAT THE NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS DO, YOU KNOW? ALL RIGHT, SO THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND THIS BRIDGE IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION RIGHT NOW.
I THINK THAT'S GOING ACCORDING TO SCHEDULE, WHICH IS GREAT TO HEAR.
AND THEN THIS IS SOME YOU KIND OF SEE THESE LOT LINES FADED IN THERE.
AND THIS IS A BUILDER, AND THIS IS THE SAME BUILDER.
SO THESE TWO ARE THE EXACT SAME BUILDER.
SO THAT ONE THAT ONE'S COMING, IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER AHEAD.
WE'VE RESERVED SOME OPEN SPACE RIGHT HERE AT THE FRONT FOR A SIGNATURE FEATURE FOR THE TOWN, FOR THEIR GATEWAY, AND ALSO SOMETHING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ITSELF.
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OUR CLIENT HAS THREE CONTRACTS LOCKED IN RIGHT NOW ON THESE BIG BOX USERS.AND THIS IS VERY, VERY EXCITING.
I KNOW YOU COULD PROBABLY LOOK AT THIS AND KIND OF SEE, IT'S A BIG BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE BIG BUILDINGS.
SO WHAT KIND OF USE COULD GO IN THERE.
AND THERE ARE A VARIETY OF, YOU KNOW, IN-LINE RETAIL UP ALONG 35 AND BACK HERE ON LANSDOWNE.
THEN YOU'VE GOT SOME OSRS ACCESSORY GAS STATION IS HERE.
SO THIS IS YOUR TRADITIONAL HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
ATTRACT AS MANY MOTORISTS AS WE CAN GET IN THERE.
THERE'S A LOT OF TOPO RIGHT HERE WITH THE DRAINAGE THAT GOES INTO THE FLOODPLAIN.
AND SO THERE'S THIS UPPER POND AND A LOWER POND WITH THIS KIND OF THIS SPILLOVER OF THE UPPER GOING INTO THE LOWER AND AN EXPERIENCE OF DINING AROUND A WATER FEATURE THAT'S BEHIND THE STORES.
BUT THERE'S ALSO THIS MASSIVE KIND OF GRADE SEPARATION.
SO THINK OF THE SITE AS SORT OF SPLIT IN HALF.
SO THERE WILL BE A RETAINING WALL ALONG THIS SIDE THERE.
AND THEN THIS IS SOME SERVICE RETAIL.
AND THEN THE SINGLE FAMILY, THERE'S 278 TOWNHOMES AND THEN SOME OPEN SPACE.
BUT WE'LL WORK THROUGH THAT AND SO ON THIS PLAN, YOU'LL SEE THE BIG BOXES WERE ORIENTED DIFFERENTLY.
THERE WAS STILL THE WATER FEATURE, THERE WAS STILL SOME TOWNHOMES, BUT THERE WAS ALSO, IF YOU LOOK IN THIS CHART, THERE WAS ALSO ABOUT 300 MULTIFAMILY APARTMENTS IN THIS TEN ACRE BLOCK.
THEN THERE WAS ON THIS NORTH SIDE, WE HAD SENIOR LIVING ABOUT 200 OR SO UNITS THERE.
SO, WE'RE TRYING TO ATTRACT THE SENIOR, YOU KNOW, ACTIVE SENIORS TO COME HERE AND LIVE FOLKS THAT ARE TRYING MAYBE TO BUY A HOME AND, YOU KNOW, THEY NEED ANOTHER CHOICE OF LIVING, RENTING BY CHOICE AND PRESENTED THIS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS AND GOING THROUGH THAT, YOU KNOW, THROUGH THE REVIEWS WITH STAFF, THROUGH CONVERSATIONS WITH TOWN LEADERSHIP AND FEELING LIKE THAT.
THAT IS NOT THE BEST APPROACH FOR THIS.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE LESS, YOU KNOW, OR NOT REALLY ANY MULTIFAMILY.
SO THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM THE PLAN, PROBABLY BACK IN THE SPRING.
WE TOOK THAT OUT. AND SO WHAT THAT ALLOWED US TO DO, YOU CAN SEE THE ACREAGE OF THE COMMERCIAL GREW FROM 126 UP TO 157, AND IT CREATE A CLEANER, KIND OF JUST MORE SYMMETRICAL PLAN.
THE BUILDINGS ARE ALL LINED UP THERE.
YOU KNOW, NO, NO BIG BOX WANTS TO BE MORE IN FRONT OF THE OTHER.
SO WE TRY TO BE EQUITABLE THERE.
BUT IT GAVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HEY, CAN WE DO THIS? YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WE THOUGHT WE REALLY NEEDED THESE RENTERS, BUT YOU KNOW, AND TAKING THAT TO THE MARKETPLACE.
WE FELT LIKE IT WAS WELL RECEIVED.
AND IT WAS BEFORE THE DENTON CREEK BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION STARTED.
BUT NOW THAT THAT EXPERIENCE IS UNDERWAY AND ON SCHEDULE, WHICH IS WHICH IS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ANSWERS THAT QUESTION.
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BECAUSE I WAS TELLING YOU ABOUT THIS PIECE, WHICH IS THIS PIECE HERE IS FURTHER AHEAD THAN WE ARE.ALL RIGHT. SO ZOOMING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THE COMMERCIAL.
THE COLOR CODE SHOWS THE DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE SLATED ON THE ON THE PD.
AND WHILE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONTRACTS FOR THREE OF THESE, OUR CLIENT SOME OF THESE OTHERS ARE SPECULATIVE, BUT IT'S BASED ON OUR EXPERIENCE. IT'S BASED ON SUCCESSFUL HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
WHAT WE'RE HEARING FROM THE END USERS THAT WE'RE TALKING TO, WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
AND SO RETAIL JUST STRAIGHT RETAIL IS IN RED.
THE BIG BOXES ARE ALSO STRAIGHT RETAIL.
BUT WE PUT THOSE IN A TEAL COLOR AND THEN MIXED IN SOME RESTAURANTS AND THOSE MIGHT SHUFFLE AROUND.
YOU KNOW, GET FOOD THERE AND THEN SOME OFFICE TUCKED IN ON THIS NORTH SIDE.
SO ALTOGETHER IT'S ABOUT 800,000 OVER 800,000FT² OF BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THIS PLAN.
AND THE ONE THING THAT LEXIN TALKED ABOUT THIS.
BUT AFTER P&Z, THIS WAS A STANDARD THAT WAS ADDED TO THE PD.
WE JUST PASTED IT HERE TO, TO TALK THROUGH.
BUT EADS BOULEVARD IS THIS NORTH SIDE.
AND IF THAT WERE TO EXTEND STRAIGHT TO 35 THAT'S WHAT IF IN THE EVENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE APPROVAL FROM ARGYLE TO CONNECT THROUGH TO THERE, THEN EADS NEEDS TO GO TO 35.
BUT IT'S IMPORTANT HOW EADS DOES TIE INTO 35 BECAUSE THERE IS CONTROL OF ACCESS.
WE CAN'T GET TOO CLOSE TO THE FUTURE OFF RAMP.
THEN THERE'S GRADING CHALLENGES WITH THE 35 PLAN AND SLOPES AND STUFF LIKE THAT ALONG HERE.
SO WE'D HAVE TO EXTEND THAT THROUGH TO EAT.
SO THAT WOULD CHANGE UP THE PLAN A LITTLE BIT.
BUT THAT'S TAKEN VERBATIM FROM THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
IT WILL NOT BE ANOTHER BRIDGE.
CORRECT. JUST THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT FROM THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
YOU WILL ALSO SEE ON THIS PLAN HERE'S THE ACCESSORY GAS STATION FOR THIS USER.
SO THAT'S THE ONE OF THE TWO LOCATIONS.
THE SECOND ONE, YOU KNOW, MAY BE SOMEWHERE ELSE, BUT WE'RE ONLY ALLOWED TO HAVE TWO.
SO WE HAVE KIND OF ONE ELEVATION ON THIS WEST SIDE AND A LOWER ELEVATION ON THE RIGHT.
AND THIS WOULD BE A SIX FOOT MASONRY SCREENING WALL THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ON TOP OF A RETAINING WALL.
AND IT IS REQUIRED HERE BECAUSE WE'RE ADJACENT TO SINGLE FAMILY.
IT'S NOT REALLY REQUIRED HERE, BUT WE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THE VIEW AND VISIBILITY OF THE BACK OF HOUSE WILL BE PRETTY PROMINENT AS YOU'RE COMING FROM CANYON FALLS TRAVELING WEST.
THIS IS ALL PERCHED UP ON THAT HILL OR ON A HIGHER ELEVATION AND WANTING TO KIND OF SCREEN THAT AND, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING AND STUFF WILL BE ALONG HERE AS WELL. BUT WE WANTED TO SCREEN THAT BACK OF HOUSE FROM THE MOTORISTS GOING DOWN DENTON CREEK.
SO THIS IS THE LOCATION OF THE OUTDOOR STORAGE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
LEXIN PRESENTED THAT VERY WELL, AND IT IS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF BUILDING 406.
SO WE GOT PRETTY SPECIFIC WITH 406.
AND SO THIS IS AGAIN ON THE SOUTH SIDE DOESN'T FACE ANY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND OVER HERE IS THE AUTO BAYS THAT GO INTO THE BUILDING.
THEY'RE ALSO NOT FACING ANY PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY PER THE STANDARDS.
AND THE SEASONAL SALES WOULD BE RIGHT HERE PER THE CONCEPT PLAN.
AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PLAN FOR THE PARKING LOT.
SO IF THIS USER WANTED TO ADD THEM TO THE PARKING LOT, THEY'D HAVE TO CHANGE THE PLAN.
SO. THE TOWNHOME PIECE ZOOMING INTO THAT, INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE 278 TOWNHOMES.
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THERE'S 90.I THINK THERE'S 90 ON THIS SIDE AND THEN 187 ON THE WEST SIDE.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT A HALF ACRE THAT WE ADDED PER THE PARKS BOARD.
BUT THESE ARE TYPICAL RESIDENTIAL STREETS THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN ANY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THEY CAN PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY.
THEY'LL ALSO HAVE A TWO CAR GARAGE.
THESE TOWNHOMES ARE PLANNED TO BE TWO STORY AND WE'RE TALKING TO THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT BUILDERS.
ONE BUILDER IS ON THE EAST SIDE, ONE BUILDERS ON THE WEST SIDE TALKING TO THEM.
THE TYPE OF RESIDENTS THEY EXPECT TO SEE HERE.
IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE DUAL INCOME, NO KIDS, DIVORCEES AND THEN A THIRD OF YOUNG PROFESSIONALS AND THEN A THIRD OF EMPTY NESTERS. SO, RANDY, YOU MENTIONED THIS AT P&Z.
DOES THAT IS THAT TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T EXPECT THERE TO BE A LOT OF CHILDREN IN THIS? THEY ACCORDING TO THEM, THAT'S NOT REALLY THEY'RE NOT SEEING A WHOLE LOT, BUT THEY ARE SEEING SOME.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST AN AMOUNT THAT YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE IN THE REST OF CANYON FALLS.
WELL, THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE, I MEAN, IS A PLAYGROUND, IF GIVEN WHO YOU EXPECT TO BE LIVING HERE, IS A PLAYGROUND THE RIGHT AMENITY, OR WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF WITH A COUPLE OF PICKLEBALL COURTS SINCE THAT'S TOP OF MIND? IS THAT A BETTER AMENITY FOR THIS PARK FOR THOSE RESIDENTS? AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT I WANT YOU TO COMMIT TO THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT SURE IF A PLAYGROUND IS THE BEST USE HERE.
WE'VE GOT A BIG PARK, AND I DON'T KNOW.
BRIAN, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS IS THAT WE'VE GOT A BIG PARK DOWN THE ROAD IN CANYON FALLS.
IF WE HAVE A PLAYGROUND THAT NOBODY EVER USES, ARE WE BETTER OFF PUTTING A COUPLE PICKLEBALL COURTS IN THERE OR SOMETHING SIMILAR THAT IS A BETTER FIT FOR ALL THE PEOPLE IN THIS LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD AND MAYBE AROUND THE AREA.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE DO HAVE THE NEW CANYON FALLS PARK IN FLOWER MOUND VERY CLOSE.
PICKLEBALL COURTS. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S THE BEST LOCATION FOR IT, BUT YEAH, IF THE APPLICANT IS OPEN TO SEEING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOING A STUDY WORKING WITH THE HOMEBUILDERS TO SEE WHAT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR TARGET AUDIENCE WOULD USE, I'D BE OPEN TO SOMETHING OTHER THAN PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT, FOR SURE, AS LONG AS IT'S A COMPARABLE AMENITY. RIGHT? YEAH, EXACTLY.
IT NEEDS TO BE A PARK. NEEDS TO BE PUBLIC.
NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT'LL BE UTILIZED.
SO, I DON'T KNOW. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, IT'S JUST A SUGGESTION.
BUT RIGHT NOW, THE PD REQUIRES THE PLAYGROUND.
AND THAT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO THROUGH A MASTER PLAN PROCESS WITH TOWN CONSULTANTS.
BUT IT'S LIKELY THAT THERE COULD BE PICKLEBALL COURTS THERE IN CLOSE PROXIMITY.
SO MAYBE IN THIS AREA, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD ALLOW FOR MAYBE THE PLAYGROUND COULD BE THERE.
THERE IS ALSO A FLEX LAWN IN THAT HALF ACRE AREA.
SO BUT I DO THINK IF WE COULD WRITE IT IN A WAY THAT IT'S A SIMILAR AMENITY OR EQUIVALENT TO A PLAYGROUND SUCH AS A PUTTING GREEN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT.
AND I SAID HOW HAPPY THAT MADE ME, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OWNERSHIP.
AND HE SAID, OH NO, NO, THESE WOULD BE RENTALS.
SO I JUST WANT TO VERIFY THESE WOULD BE FOR INDIVIDUAL OWNERS.
THANK YOU. WHAT IS THE COST OF THOSE GENERALLY? I BELIEVE THEY ARE IN THE FIVES OR ABOVE.
AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, APPROXIMATELY.
OH, THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE IS IS 18.
18. BUT THAT'S THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE? NO, FOR THE HOME, NOT THE LOT SIZE.
IS THAT FOR THE HOME AS WELL? THE TOWNHOME I THINK THAT WAS IN THE LOT SIZE THAT TYPICALLY THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED WOULD BE 3000FT² FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THE 18 WAS FOR THE LOT.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SMALLER IF IT'S AN 1800 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
SO THE HOUSE IS 22FT WIDE BY 60FT DEEP.
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OKAY SOMEBODY COULD DO THAT MATH, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE FOOTPRINT.AND SO, ZOOMING INTO WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WE SPENT SOME TIME TALKING ABOUT THIS COMPATIBILITY BUFFER BECAUSE AT ONE POINT IN THE PROCESS, WE THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO NEED AN EXCEPTION TO THIS.
WE'RE ALSO MEETING THE BUILDING SETBACK.
THE BUILDINGS ARE GREATER THAN 60FT AWAY.
AND LET ME BACK UP. IT'S THIS IT'S THESE THIS TRAIL RIGHT HERE.
AND EVEN THERE'S A MID-BLOCK PEDESTRIAN CONNECTION RIGHT HERE.
AND THEN THERE WILL BE SIDEWALKS ALONG ALL THE STREETS.
BUT THIS WAS IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
SO IT COULD BE A CONTINUOUS LOOP FOR THE RESIDENTS.
BUT WE DIDN'T WANT IT UP AT THE COMMERCIAL ELEVATION.
WE WERE SCRATCHING OUR HEADS ON THAT ONE FOR A LITTLE BIT, BUT WHAT WE ENDED UP DOING IS GIVING YOU A 20 FOOT BUFFER ON THE BOTTOM OF THE HILL, 25 FOOT BUFFER ON THE TOP, MEETING THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER ON THE TOP.
AND SO WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE IN PLAN VIEW I'M SORRY.
IN SECTION VIEW, IF YOU'RE WALKING DOWN THAT SIDEWALK HERE'S THE 20 FOOT BUFFER FROM THE WALL TO THE EDGE OF THE ALLEY WITH A SIX FOOT TRAIL. AND THIS IS WHERE THE LIGHTING BOLLARDS.
AND THEN ZOOMING INTO THAT POCKET PARK THAT WE JUST TALKED ABOUT.
THIS IS THAT FLEX LAWN AREA WITH A SHADE STRUCTURE, OUTDOOR SEATING.
I'M NOT SURE, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WELCOME BEING ABLE TO DO THAT TO BE ATTRACTIVE TO THOSE USERS.
AND, RANDY, WHILE WE ARE ON THIS SLIDE, LEXIN WAS TALKING ABOUT IN THE IN THE ZONING.
GIVEN AN OPTION FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED INSTEAD OF JUST THE ATTACHED TOWNHOMES.
IS THAT REALLY SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE NEEDED, OR IS THAT JUST A JUST IN CASE, OR WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HAVING THAT PROVISION IN THERE AS WELL? SO EARLY ON, WE FELT LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE NEEDED BECAUSE THERE'S A SORT OF A LARGE AMOUNT OF AREA.
AND WE WANTED TO GIVE THAT OPTION.
AND TALKING TO THE BUILDERS, THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE STILL NOT SURE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO DETACHED.
THEY WOULD DEFINITELY LOSE LOTS IF THEY DID DETACHED BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T CHANGE THE LOT DEPTH.
IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE REAR ENTRY, SO IT WOULD STILL BE A 90 FOOT LOT.
IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO HAVE A 20 FOOT REAR DRIVEWAY AND A TEN FOOT FRONT YARD.
AND SO THERE WOULD BE MORE UNITS COMING OUT.
SO WHEN WE COME BACK IN WITH OUR, THE, I GUESS THE PLOT ON THIS ONE FOR THE SINGLE FAMILY I WOULD EXPECT PROBABLY NOT SEE ANY DETACHED.
BUT THAT FLEXIBILITY WE TALKED ABOUT EARLY ON WAS HELPFUL AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH IT.
ALRIGHTY. SO PARKS AND AMENITIES.
THIS IS THE COLOR CODED CONCEPT THAT SHOWS THE DIFFERENT OPEN SPACE CATEGORIES.
THE DARK GREEN IS THAT PD OPEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S BROKEN UP TO WHERE THERE'S 9.86.
THAT'S DEDICATED TO THE TOWN DOWN HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND THEN THIS POCKET PARK IS ABOUT A HALF ACRE.
SO, ALL TOGETHER THAT'S 10.44.
AND THEN THE DARK ORANGE IS THE POLLINATOR ZONES THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINED A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY TO BE KIND OF INDICATIVE OF THE MONARCH, THE ESSENCE OF WHAT MONARCH IS.
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AND I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.SO WITH THE 278 TOWNHOMES, THE REQUIREMENT OF THE PARK DEDICATION WAS 9.5.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO MEET THAT WITH THAT DEDICATION.
AND WHAT I LIKE ABOUT THE OPEN SPACE ARRANGEMENT IS IT'S EVERYTHING IS REALLY JUST EASY TO ACCESS.
IT'S A SPREAD OUT AND I THINK IT'S DISTRIBUTED VERY WELL FOR THE DIFFERENT PATRONS, FOR THE RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THE OPEN SPACE AREAS AND ESPECIALLY THE TRAILS.
WE WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE NORTH SIDE, SO IT WAS ALONG THE OPEN SPACE AREAS ALONG THIS OPEN SPACE.
SO THAT'S A LOOP THERE THAT THEY COULD TAKE.
AND THEN ONCE AND IT WOULD TIE IN AGAIN TO THE EAST INTO CANYON FALLS.
THAT 12 FOOT TRAIL WOULD ALSO BE ON THIS SIDE TO GET TO THE PUBLIC PARK CONTINUING DOWN THROUGH HERE INTO THIS POLLINATOR ZONE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF THAT BIG BOX, HUGGING THE TOWN LIMIT LINE WITH NORTH LAKE.
SO ALTOGETHER, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY OVER NEARLY OVER TWO MILES OF 12 FOOT TRAILS AND, YOU KNOW, A LARGE AMOUNT OF LINEAR FOOTAGE OF THE SIX FOOT TRAILS.
SO THAT'S A GOOD DEAL OF TRAILS MORE THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE WALKING THROUGH HERE.
ALL RIGHT. SO THE POLLINATORS.
ALL RIGHT. SO WHAT WE DID IN THE PD IS WE ADDED SOME STANDARDS WITH COLLABORATING WITH STAFF.
WHAT THOSE STANDARDS NEEDED TO BE THAT THESE POLLINATOR ZONES ARE GOING TO INCLUDE SOME THINGS IN THERE TO ATTRACT OR TO BE ABLE TO FOLLOW THE BUTTERFLIES AS THEY'RE COMING THROUGH THERE.
YOU CAN USE YOUR QR CODE AND CHECK THAT SIGN AND THEN SEE WHAT THAT'S ABOUT.
AND THE TYPES OF PLANTS FOR THESE HOT PINK AREAS ARE THEY'LL BE SEEDED WITH MILKWEED, SUNFLOWERS, VERBENAS AND SIMILAR TYPES. AND SO THE PD ALSO SPEAKS TO THE MAINTENANCE OF THESE AREAS.
ALSO, WHILE BLENDING WITH AREAS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HEAVILY, MORE HEAVILY USED.
SO AS WE WORK THROUGH THIS YEAR, I WERE PLEASED TO SAY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WHITTLE WHITTLE DOWN OUR EXCEPTIONS FROM I THINK AT ONE POINT I COUNTED EIGHT DOWN TO THREE.
AND THESE ARE THE THREE BEFORE YOU LEXIN TOUCHED ON THOSE.
I DON'T REALLY THINK I NEED TO SPEAK TO A AND B, BUT THE TOPOGRAPHIC SLOPE IS THE THIRD ONE AND ALTOGETHER IS 43 ACRES OF SLOPES BETWEEN 5 AND 12 THAT ARE BEING IMPACTED.
AND THIS IS THE DIFFERENT GRAPHIC THAT LEXIN MENTIONED.
WE ALSO LOOKED AT WHAT ABOUT SLOPES GREATER THAN 8%? YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT 80FT OF FALL ON THIS GUY OR ON THIS PROPERTY.
SORRY. ARE WE REALLY IMPACTING THE STEEP, STEEP AREAS THAT ARE OVER 8% AND IT'S REALLY ONLY A LITTLE BIT AROUND HALF AN ACRE? IT'S THESE AREAS THAT ARE KIND OF THIS PEACH COLOR.
IT WAS THIS DETENTION POND FOR THE PARK.
AND THEN I THINK IT WAS THIS DETENTION POND, TOO.
SO THE IMPACTS OF SLOPES GREATER THAN 8% OR GREATER IS IN VERY, VERY MINIMAL COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE WE'RE TRYING TO DO. AND ONLY IMPACTING 43 ACRES OF TOTAL SLOPES, THOSE ARE MOST THE VAST MAJORITY OF THOSE ARE NOT 8%.
AND WE JUST GOT RID OF ALL THOSE AS WE WORK THROUGH THAT CLOSELY WITH STAFF AND EVERYBODY.
THE ELEVATIONS LEXIN TOUCHED ON THOSE.
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS A PRAIRIE STYLE ARCHITECTURE TO BLEND IN WITH STAND OUT, BUT ALSO BLEND IN WITH THE NATIVE ENVIRONMENT, THE SHED LIKE SLANTED ROOFS AND THEN THE COLOR SCHEME ALSO TO BE REPRESENT THAT.
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AND THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND HAVE MY TEAM HELP AS WELL.SO, RANDY, I TOTALLY BUY IN TO THE VISION OF THIS COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE URGENCY FOR YOU GUYS TO GET GOING ON THIS AND CAPTURE THIS BEFORE SOMEBODY ELSE DOES.
WE'VE TIED THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL TOGETHER.
SO WE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS, YOU AND I PERSONALLY ON THIS DEVELOPMENT.
SO HOW CAN WE PUT SOME STANDARDS IN THIS TO REQUIRE SOME OF THIS COMMERCIAL TO GET DONE BEFORE THESE HOMES? ANYBODY CAN MOVE INTO THESE HOMES IN PHASE ONE.
SO THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION, ADAM.
I DO REMEMBER OR RECALL THAT CONVERSATION.
THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE NEED TO CONSIDER BEFORE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT REALLY BECAUSE THE WE'VE SCALED BACK THE THE RESIDENTIAL, THE PROPERTY HAS A LOT OF DEPTH AND MADE IT MAYBE A LITTLE BIT PROBLEMATIC TO PROVIDE ALL AS RETAIL BASED ON THE TOPO AND BLENDING IN WITH CANYON FALLS AND TRANSITIONING AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
BUT WE HAVE WE HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE.
I YOU CAN PROBABLY SEND SOME HESITATION IN MY VOICE FOR COMMITTING TO THAT, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THIS RETAIL ISN'T IT'S ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT'S NOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING ELSE.
IT'S JUST ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND IT'S JUST THAT FIRST STEP AND THERE'S SUBSEQUENT STEPS THAT WE HAVE TO TAKE FOR APPROVALS.
IT'S HIGHLY LIKELY THE WAY THIS WOULD PHASE OUT IS THAT THE RESIDENTIAL WOULD BE AHEAD, BUT THE RETAIL IS FOLLOWING BEHIND. WITHIN A TWO YEAR TYPE OF PERIOD, BECAUSE THERE'S 380 AGREEMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO.
WE NEED THE FRONTAGE ROAD TO BE THERE FOR THE END USERS.
THAT'S ONE OF IT'S BASED ON THOSE CONDITIONS WITH HIS AGREEMENTS IN THEM.
AND SO IF WE WERE TO ADD A CONDITION LIKE THAT ON THE RESIDENTIAL, IT WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T REALLY BE SUPPORTED BY THOSE, BY THOSE BUILDERS. BECAUSE THE RESIDENTIAL HAS TO STILL GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
THESE ARE REALLY, REALLY CLOSE.
AS FAR AS TIME FRAMES, THIS PROPERTY, I KNOW WE'VE DONE IT ON OTHERS AND I AGREE WITH YOU ON THOSE.
HOWEVER, THIS ONE BEING ON THE HIGHWAY, IT'S SET UP TO BE HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL.
AND IT'S IT'S NOT IN ANYONE'S INTEREST FOR IT TO JUST SIT THERE.
ERIC IS BEING VERY COMPETITIVE WITH EVERYBODY THAT'S CIRCLING TO GET THOSE USERS HERE.
AND IN THERE WE COULD TALK ABOUT THE TIMING.
IT'S JUST THAT THEY'RE CHOMPING AT THE BIT TO GET GOING.
AND THEY THEY'RE HESITANT TO DO ANYTHING UNTIL THAT ZONING IS, IS TAKEN.
SO, THE TOWNHOME DEVELOPER IS EAGER TO GET GOING.
IS THAT WHO YOU'RE SAYING IS EAGER TO GET GOING? THE RETAIL IS TOO.
BUT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT FRONTAGE ROAD HAS TO BE THERE.
AND THEY'RE HELD TO, YOU KNOW, TXDOT.
BUT YOU CAN GET THE RETAIL PORTION OF THIS IS ALREADY CONFORMING TO THE MASTER PLAN.
THERE'D BE NO CHANGE. RIGHT? SO SINCE YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TO HAVE THIS RESIDENTIAL, I WANT TO SEE FINISHED COMMERCIAL SPACE BEFORE ANYBODY MOVES IN.
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COMMERCIAL SPACE DONE, AND WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO WIND UP WITH TOWNHOMES.BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, NOT FROM YOU, BUT THERE ARE I COULD POINT TO THEM WHERE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL WITH BIG OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE FM AND IT WAS GOING TO BE FINISHED COMMERCIAL, READY TO GO.
AND I JUST THAT'S SHAME ON US, HONESTLY.
SHAME ON THE COUNCIL AT THAT TIME FOR APPROVING THAT WITHOUT MAKING SURE THAT THE COMMERCIAL WAS TIED TO THAT RESIDENTIAL ENTITLEMENT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET, WE PUT A CONDITION IN WHERE THERE WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING AND AN APARTMENT TIED TOGETHER.
THERE'S NO APARTMENT BUILDING BECAUSE THAT OFFICE BUILDING HASN'T BEEN DELIVERED.
AND THAT IS THE INCENTIVE FOR THAT BUILDER TO GO AHEAD AND GET THAT OFFICE BUILDING DONE.
AND IF WE HADN'T PUT THAT IN, WE'D HAVE AN APARTMENT BUILDING THERE NOW AND NOTHING ELSE.
SO I NEED SOME KIND OF I WOULD PROPOSE 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF FINISHED COMMERCIAL SPACE IN ORDER TO ACCEPT THE SUBDIVISION ON THAT TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT. THAT'S MY SUGGESTION TO COUNCIL.
SO ARE YOU TALKING 300,000FT OF COMMERCIAL TO UNLOCK THE CO FOR THE TOWNHOMES? SO GOOD QUESTION.
SO WHAT? I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY DON'T BUILD IN PARALLEL.
I WOULD TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN OPEN FOR BUSINESS.
RIGHT. SO THERE'S THEN, YOU KNOW, NO ONE'S GOING TO WANT TO SIT HERE WITH AN EMPTY BUILDING.
SO 300 WOULD BE YOU HAVE THE PHASING EXHIBIT, RANDI.
SO I'LL TELL YOU WHERE I GOT TO THAT NUMBER.
JUST I DIDN'T JUST PULL IT OUT OF THIN AIR.
SO PHASE ONE HAS TWO BIG BOX BUILDINGS AND A BUNCH OF SMALLER BUILDINGS.
THOSE TWO BIG BOX BUILDINGS TOGETHER ARE JUST A LITTLE BIT UNDER 300,000FT².
SO I DON'T CARE WHERE THE BUILDINGS ARE.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO DO PHASE ONE IN PHASE ONE.
AND I'M ASKING YOU NOT TO COMMIT TO EVERYTHING, BUT TO COMMIT TO SOMETHING IN THAT BALLPARK, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SIZE OF THESE TWO BIG BOX BUILDINGS, FINISHED SPACE BEFORE WE ACCEPT THAT SUBDIVISION.
I THINK PHASE TWO IS DOWN HERE IN THE LOWER LEFT BASED ON WHAT IS ON THE PD RIGHT NOW.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE DONE CONCURRENTLY WITH THE COS FOR THE TOWNHOMES MADE AVAILABLE AT A CERTAIN COMPLETION POINT OF THE 300,000FT². I THINK THAT'S REALLY REASONABLE.
I MEAN, ESPECIALLY SINCE THREE CONTRACTS ARE ALREADY EXECUTED, RIGHT? ARE WE TALKING LETTERS OF INTEREST, LOIS? ARE WE TALKING, LIKE, FARTHER DOWN THE ROAD THAN THAT? ERIC? ERIC WILL HAVE TO SPEAK TO EXACTLY WHAT THAT MEANS.
BUT THIS BIG BOX STORE, FOR EXAMPLE, WANTS TO OPEN IS PLANNING TO OPEN BY 2027, 2028.
IT'S STILL A LITTLE STAGGERED BECAUSE 18 MONTHS IS MIDDLE OF 26.
AND THIS WOULDN'T BE OPEN UNTIL THE, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME IN 27.
WELL, HOW MANY UNITS AGAIN OF THE TOWNHOMES? 278. SO I IMAGINE YOU WOULDN'T BE BUILDING ALL OF THEM AT ONCE.
SO I'M LOOKING FOR THE COMMERCIAL SPACE.
I MEAN, FINISHED WOULD BE IDEAL.
I'M LOOKING FOR, LIKE A PAST, A POINT OF NO RETURN, SO TO SPEAK.
MAYBE. IS THERE A POINT, TOMMY, IN THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS WHERE WE COULD MAKE THAT CONNECTION? WELL, FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING, IT DEPENDS ON HOW THIS IS BUILT.
IF THE END USER IS BUILDING IT.
I DON'T THINK YOU TYPICALLY GET TO WHAT WE CALL A SHELL FINAL.
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BUT I DO THINK AND AGAIN, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO TALK TO THE BUILDING OFFICIAL ABOUT.THERE ARE CERTAIN STAGES THROUGH THE PERMIT PROCESS.
THAT, TO YOUR POINT IS WHAT WE WOULD CONSIDER A POINT OF NO RETURN.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET THE NOMENCLATURE CORRECT.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'D HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON.
CAN I ASK THE POINT OF NO RETURN? IS THAT SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
IS IT TURNING DIRT? YES, IT'S A BUILDING, A TANGIBLE BUILDING, MORE THAN TURNING DIRT.
AND THAT'S NOT TO ME THEY DIDN'T.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT A BUILDING.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU NEED, YOU KNOW, IF THE TOWNHOMES ARE SIX MONTHS AHEAD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT POINT IN CONSTRUCTION IS.
SHELL ACCEPTANCE, I THINK, WAS WHAT TOMMY JUST MENTIONED.
THAT THOUGHT AND THE FEEDBACK.
AND WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM THE REST OF COUNCIL, TOO.
THAT'S OKAY. SO I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE RESIDENTIAL.
THE PHASING. SO YOU'RE SAYING THE RESIDENTIAL IS AHEAD OF THE COMMERCIAL PRIMARILY DUE TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE? WHERE IS THAT RESIDENTIAL SUPPOSED TO EGRESS IN AND OUT DURING THAT TIME? SO THE LET'S JUST LOOK AT MAYBE THIS AREA FOR NOW.
SO THERE'S 90 LOTS HERE AND 178 ON THAT SIDE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, MAYBE 94.
SO THIS RESIDENTIAL IS AHEAD OF US IN NORTHLAKE.
I KNOW IT'S, BUT IT'S JUST IT'S IT MATTERS BECAUSE IT'S PART OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
AND SO THEY WOULD BUILD THIS SOUTHERN PART OF SCHMIDT'S THROUGH FLOWER MOUND ACROSS THE PARK, BASICALLY TO GET TO THIS PIECE BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME BUILDER AND THEY HAVE ABOUT 60 LOTS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO HERE.
SO IT WOULD, SINCE THE FRONTAGE ROADS WOULDN'T BE THERE YET, IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO 1171 OR 407.
SO I GUESS MY BIGGEST CONCERN WITH, AND I THINK THIS TIES IN WITH THE PHASING IS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC ISSUES, ESPECIALLY ON 407 AND 1171 IN THIS AREA.
I MEAN, THE STOP SIGN ON 1171 GOES OUT ALL THE WAY TO CLEVELAND.
GIBBS NOW TAKES ALMOST 30 MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THAT ONE STOP SIGN.
SO YEAH, I'M VERY SUPPORTIVE OF TRYING TO PHASE IT TO MAKE SURE IT MATCHES THE COMMERCIAL AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THOSE ARE ALL COMING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE MORE OF A TRAFFIC ISSUE IN THIS AREA.
THAT'S ALSO IF TECH STARTS DOING THEIR THING AND IT'S SORT OF PROBLEMATIC THAT WE'RE HAMSTRUNG IN THAT REGARD BECAUSE THE RETAILERS HAVE TO SEE THE FRONTAGE ROAD.
AND IT'S LIKE, WE'VE BEEN WAITING ON IT FOR SO LONG AND WE'RE TRYING TO TIPTOE INTO IT SLOWLY.
THE TWO ARE NOT REALLY RELATED.
[02:00:09]
I THINK IF THEY COULD MAKE THAT A BREAKOUT PROJECT, THAT WOULD CERTAINLY ELIMINATE OR ALLEVIATE A LOT OF THE CONCERNS.YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS KIND OF MENTIONED WITH THE PHASING AND TYING THE TWO TOGETHER, AND WHEN ARE THEY IN IT AND PAST THE POINT OF NO RETURN? I THINK, TOMMY, YOU MENTIONED IF IT'S AN OWNER CONSTRUCTED OR TENANT CONSTRUCTED AND NOT BASICALLY BUILT ON A SPECULATIVE BASIS BY A DEVELOPER, I GUESS THERE'S A DIFFERENTIAL.
IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THERE FOR THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND SO WHAT I'M WONDERING IS IF IT'S OWNER CONSTRUCTED, NOT A SPECULATIVE BUILD.
I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO WALK AWAY AND GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
OUT TO JUSTIN, UP TOWARDS DENTON.
THIS IS GOING TO DRAW PEOPLE INTO THIS AREA.
SO FOR ME, AND I UNDERSTAND THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS CONCERNS ABOUT WANTING TO MAKE SURE WE JUST DON'T GET STUCK WITH TOWNHOUSES FOR TEN YEARS AND NOTHING ELSE ALONG THERE. HOWEVER, I THINK, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, SO FAR ALONG IN THE CONSTRUCTION WITH THE VERTICAL WALLS, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, IF WE GIVE THE FLEXIBILITY ON THOSE OWNER BUILT BUILDINGS THAT ONCE THEY BREAK GROUND, MAYBE THAT'S A HIGH ENOUGH BAR TO CLEAR.
I JUST WANT TO OFFER THAT UP AS A MAYBE A WAY TO TO HELP GET THIS SOLVED.
I JUST WANTED TO WEIGH IN, NOT TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT FULLY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MY CONCERN WITH BECAUSE THIS IS ZONING HAS TO DO WITH THE LAND.
SO IF YOU MAKE IT ABOUT THE OWNER OR THE PERSON, IT'S POSSIBLY CHALLENGEABLE.
IT'S NOT A LAND USE REGULATION AT THAT POINT.
OKAY, THANKS. BUT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH.
LIKE IF SOMEONE SAID, WELL, WE PLAN TO OPERATE A BUSINESS IN THIS.
AND THEN THEY SAY, WELL, WE CHANGED OUR MIND.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT'S KIND OF LEGALLY, IT DOESN'T REALLY MAKE MUCH.
THERE WOULDN'T BE ANY WAY TO REALLY DETERMINE THAT.
IF YOU'RE JUST SUBMITTING FOR THE SHELL, IT'S NOT GOING TO INCLUDE ALL THE INTERIOR FINISH OUT.
THAT'S USUALLY SOMETHING THAT COMES SEPARATE.
IT'S LIKE IF YOU BUILD A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
THAT'S THAT FREESTANDING BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THE WAY WE WOULD TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN THAT IS JUST BY THE PERMIT SET.
WE WOULD LOOK AT IT IF THEY WERE TRYING TO CHANGE THE IF THEY WERE TRYING TO CHANGE THE PLAN, LIKE SUBMIT A FULL SET OF PLANS, BUT THEN HALFWAY THROUGH, SAY, NO, WE'RE ONLY DOING A SHELL. WELL, THEY'D HAVE TO RESUBMIT THE WHOLE PERMIT UNDER A NEW PERMIT TYPE.
WE WOULDN'T CONTINUE TO HAVE THEM PROCESSED UNDER THE COM PERMIT.
IT WOULD TURN TO A SHELL PERMIT.
SO THAT'S HOW IT'S REVIEWED FROM FROM OUR END OF THINGS.
SO IF IT'S GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE COMMERCIAL PERMITS FOR ONE OF THOSE FOUR BIG BOXES SPECIFICALLY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER IT'S BUILT ON A SPECULATIVE BASIS OR BUILT OR BY A DEVELOPER OR BY THE THE USER, I GUESS THAT'S IMMATERIAL.
DO WE THINK THAT FOR THOSE FOR ONCE, THEY BREAK GROUND ON THOSE, NOT COUNTING THE SMALLER, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE BROKEN UP INTO MULTIPLE TENANTS.
I'M GOING TO MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED.
OH, GOOD. SO THERE WAS DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE 380 AGREEMENTS, AND PERHAPS THOSE WOULD BE UTILIZED AS A TOOL IN THE FINAL AGREEMENTS.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO INCORPORATE THE IDEA THAT THAT ALL HAS TO BE COMMITTED TO? I MEAN, WE GET VERY DETAILED FINANCIALS AND ROI.
AND THE IDEA THAT THEY WOULD BREAK GROUND WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME BECAUSE THE 380 COULD REQUIRE THAT TIME, RIGHT? YES. SO IF WE CONSTRUCTED THE 380 TO REQUIRE BREAKING GROUND WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, THAT COULD
[02:05:09]
HELP. DO YOU THINK? IT COULD. BUT WE HAVE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT TONIGHT.AND THERE'S NO 380, UNFORTUNATELY.
THAT'S TRUE. AND I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING I DON'T WANT TO SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE THESE LARGE RETAIL BUILDINGS.
I DON'T YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IN HERE I WOULD QUALIFY.
A GAS STATION WOULD PROBABLY BE A HUGE HIT RIGHT THERE.
YOU KNOW, A DRIVE THROUGH, BUT THAT'S ONLY INCIDENTAL.
NO, BUT I MEAN, I'M NOT NECESSARILY SAYING IT HAS TO BE 300,000FT² OF RETAIL.
LIKE THEY SAID, THOUSAND SQUARE FEET.
WHAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER? THAT SHOULD BE AT A POINT OF NO RETURN IN ORDER TO UNLOCK THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE NOT JUST THROWING THEM ONTO 1171 WITH EVERYBODY ELSE.
WELL, WHAT DID THE TIA SUGGEST? I MEAN, WE DID THE TIA, RIGHT? SO DID IT COMMENT ON THE TIMING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH REGARD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE TOWNHOMES? NO, I DON'T BELIEVE I'M NOT SURE THAT IT WENT I MEAN, IT LOOKED AT THESE PHASES.
SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SPECIFICALLY WITH THE TOWNHOMES.
THIS WOULD BE BUT BASED ON THE PHASING OF THE PLAN, IT DID PASS.
BUT IT ASSUMED EVERYTHING WAS THERE.
RIGHT. LIKE I SAID, IT DID LOOK AT THE PHASES.
SO IT LOOKS AT IT LOOKS AT PHASE BUT SO NOT SO ALL OF PHASE ONE IS THERE.
YES. YES. WHICH INCLUDES THE FRONTAGE.
YEAH. WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT ACTUALLY HAPPEN IF WE ALLOW THE TOWNHOMES TO COME FIRST.
IS THAT RIGHT? BUT THE FRONTAGE WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
WELL, WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE MAKING ALL THE CHANGES.
TXDOT THAT'S LOOKING WE'RE LOOKING AT A FEW YEARS FOR.
THAT'S DONE. SO HOW FEASIBLE IS THIS TO THIS PROPOSAL? I, I'M UNDERSTANDING LIKE 300,000 FOR ALL THE TOWNHOMES.
I NEED TO DEFINITELY SPEAK WITH MY CLIENT, BUT IS IT, YOU KNOW, LESS THAN 300,000 FOR A PORTION OF THE TOWNHOMES AND KIND OF WORKING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THOSE RATIOS TO BE MORE, YOU KNOW, PALATABLE.
BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO AGREE TO IT.
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THAT'S AN OPTION.
SO I KNOW FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IF YOU CAN CONFER WITH YOUR CLIENT, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN DISCUSSED BUT A WAY TO ACCOMPLISH, I THINK YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT THE INTENT IS. IF YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT AND SATISFY THE CONCERN, I'D BE OPEN TO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO PROPOSE.
THANK YOU. SHOULD I DO THAT NOW OR DO WE WANT TO? WE CAN TAKE A RECESS.
FOR YOU TO TALK TO THE CLIENT IF, LET'S SEE, IT'S 8:06.
DO YOU NEED 20 MINUTES OR 10 MINUTES? TEN MINUTES. OKAY. HOW ABOUT 8:20? THANK YOU. WE'LL COME BACK.
[M. CLOSED MEETING]
WE WILL BE OUT SHORTLY.WE'RE GOING TO CONVENE ACCORDING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTION 071.
[N. RECONVENE]
OKAY. HELLO, FLOWER MOUND.WE ARE RESUMING INTO OPEN SESSION NOW AT 8:29.
AND AT THIS TIME, WE ARE DOING A PUBLIC HEARING AT THIS POINT.
[Items K.1. & K.2. (Part 2 of 2)]
AND I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC COMMENT.DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE OUT HERE IN THE AUDIENCE.
DOES ANYONE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THESE ITEMS? MAYOR, FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU CLARIFY THAT YOU'RE OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR K1 AND K2?
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YEAH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.I AM OPENING THIS FOR PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEMS K1 AND K2.
SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO SPEAK ON THIS.
I'M GOING TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I'M GOING TO OPEN THIS TO THE COUNCIL ON DELIBERATION.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE APPLICANT COME FORWARD IF SHE NEEDS TO COME FORWARD IF YOU'D LIKE.
ARE YOU READY FOR THAT? YOU GOOD? THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO GIVE OUR CLIENT, ERIC SCHMITZ, A MOMENT TO SAY A BRIEF STATEMENT.
OKAY. IF YOU'LL JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
YES. ERIC. ERIC SCHMITZ 207 WEST HICKORY.
WE'VE MET WITH EVERYBODY INDIVIDUALLY.
THIS IS A VERY EXCITING, A LITTLE BIT SCARY PROJECT.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S INPUT ALONG THE WAY.
AND WE'VE TRIED TO TRIM OUR SAILS THE ENTIRE WAY TO MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.
AND I'D LIKE TO START OUT, ADAM, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERNS.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I DON'T THINK THIS IS LIKE THAT DEAL.
I KNOW Y'ALL HAD SOME BAD PROBLEMS DOWN THE ROAD, BUT THIS IS A FREEWAY PROJECT.
THAT IS DEVELOPED ALL THE WAY AROUND US.
AND I AM COMPETING WITH HARVEST PECAN ARGYLE ROBERTSON RANCH FOR THESE TENANTS. WE DON'T WANT TO BE STUCK WITH TIER TWO COMMERCIAL TENANTS.
NOT ONLY DO THEY TAKE LONGER, THEY'RE NOT AS GOOD AND THEY'RE A LITTLE MORE DICEY.
THEIR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS AREN'T AS STRONG.
THIS IS NOT A SPECULATIVE DEVELOPMENT.
THIS IS ALMOST A BUILD TO SUIT.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE SPOKE OF THIS IN A COUPLE OF INSTANCES, THE TANGER OUTLET MALL.
AND EVERYBODY THOUGHT, WHAT'S THAT ALL ABOUT? AND THEN BOOM, HERE'S THE MALL.
IF THEY'RE CONTINGENT UPON HAVING HOUSING.
I HAD TO TALK THEM OUT OF MULTIFAMILY.
I HAD TO GET RID OF THE MARKET, WHICH DICTATED SOME OF THE SENIORS ARE TIRED OF THEIR ESTATE LOTS.
THEY DON'T WANT TO MOVE TWO ACRES ANYMORE, BUT THEY WANT TO BE NEXT TO THEIR KIDS.
WE TOOK THE TOWNHOMES AND BROKE THEM FROM BEING ALL TOGETHER TO BREAKING THEM UP TO OPEN UP THE GREEN SPACE WHERE THERE'S CLUSTERS OF FOUR INSTEAD OF 12. WE VERY THOUGHTFULLY PUT THE PARKS IN.
I RELUCTANTLY GAVE UP NINE ACRES OF DEVELOPABLE LAND SO THAT Y'ALL COULD HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PARK.
THE ONUS IS ON ME NOW TO BUILD THESE PONDS AND THE BOARDWALK AND THE RESTAURANT ENVIRONMENT WITH PICKLEBALL COURTS AND YOGA COURTS, AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT DONE.
SO TRULY, THIS IS A CHICKEN AND AN EGG DEAL.
SOMEBODY HAS GOT TO MAKE THE FIRST MOVE AND IT NEEDS TO BE US.
TXDOT IS NOT GOING TO BE IN A HURRY.
AND YES, THEY WILL BE MOTIVATED WITH TOWNHOMES AND COMMERCIAL.
THE COMMERCIALS DEPENDING ON THE TOWNHOMES, THE TOWNHOMES ARE DEPENDENT ON THE COMMERCIAL.
THEY'RE ALL DEPENDENT ON THE FREEWAY.
WE'RE TRYING TO SPEED IT UP BY TRYING TO GET DENTON CREEK BUILT FASTER.
GOING FROM YOUR NEW BRIDGE UP TO THE SERVICE ROAD, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE COULD CUT IT ACROSS WITH ONE OF THESE USERS TO THE SOUTH, THE BIG BOX, WHICH I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO MENTION THEIR NAME CONTRACTUALLY, BUT I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE. AND WE CAN PROBABLY GET WHAT IS NOW LANSDOWNE THAT WE POSSIBLY COULD CHANGE THE NAME IF THAT'S A BIG, BIG ISSUE.
AND I DO THINK THE COUNCIL DOES WANT THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
BUT ARE YOU HOW FEASIBLE IS IT TO DO THAT PHASING THAT WAS DISCUSSED.
HERE'S, AS MY DAD AND GRANDDAD USED TO SAY, A GOOD DEAL IS WHEN BOTH SIDES HURT.
[02:15:07]
SO 300,000 I THINK IS A BIG ASK.I WILL TELL YOU THAT THAT BIG USER WANTS TO EITHER BE OPEN IN 27 OR 28, AND THEY ALL WANT TO SEE THE SERVICE ROAD AND DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD BUILT YESTERDAY.
SO WE'RE PUSHING NOW TO GET THAT GOING RIGHT AWAY.
WE ARE, I AM FLEXIBLE, I WANT TO HELP.
IF WE COULD SOMEHOW STAGGER WHERE THE TOWNHOME GUYS COULD START AS SOON AS THIS ROAD IS GOING TO BE BUILT, WHICH IS VERY SUPPOSED TO START THIS QUARTER. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD.
AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE BUILDING MORE ON THE 70 FOOT LOTS BY THE BRIDGE 60S OR THEIR 70S, NICE HOMES ACROSS FROM THE TOWNHOMES AND THEN UP AT THE INTERSECTION OF CLEVELAND, GIBBS AND SCHMITZ.
IF I CAN GET THOSE THINGS GOING, WE CAN PROCEED TO CLOSE.
REALISTICALLY, THEY MAY VERY WELL START CONSTRUCTION ABOUT THE SAME TIME.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY LET'S CUT IT TO LET'S MAKE IT LIKE 50% OF THE TOWNHOMES AND 50% OF THE COMMERCIAL OR THE 300,000 MAYBE MAKE IT 150 AND 150, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WE GOT TO GET SOME VELOCITY THOUGH.
AND IF ONE OF THESE GUYS CLOSES AND STARTS CONSTRUCTION IN THE BIG BOXES, IT'S GOING TO BE KATIE BAR THE DOOR FOR THE REST OF THESE COMMERCIAL USERS AND I'LL BE HAPPY.
THIS IS ALL HANDS-ON DECK AND WE'RE ALL GOING TO CONTRIBUTE, AND WE'RE GOING TO SEIZE THESE A+ TENANTS TODAY, OVER $500 MILLION OF THIRD PARTY APPRAISED VALUE THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO TAX.
WE GOT TO GET ON THE WHEEL AND MAKE THIS HAPPEN.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BUM RUSH YOU.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THE OPPORTUNITY THAT IS AT HAND.
SO CERTAINLY, WE COULD GIVE YOU A LEVEL OF COMFORT, SOME FORM OR FASHION.
AND I PROMISE YOU, I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE YOU HANGING.
I LIVE HERE, I'M A FIFTH GENERATION GUY, SO I WANT TO BE PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE DONE.
I WANT TO MAKE YOU GUYS PROUD, AND I WANT IT TO HAPPEN.
I BELIEVE YOU, EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING AND I HAVE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
SO THE TAXPAYERS ARE ALREADY $15 MILLION INVESTED IN A BRIDGE TO GET RESIDENTS INTO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND WE'RE GOING TO INVEST QUITE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. AND WE'VE PUT DETOURS ON THIS.
SO WE'RE FINANCIALLY COMMITTED TO THIS, TOO, BUT WE'RE NOT DOING IT FOR A TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE NOT EVEN FOR THE PROPERTY TAX, WE'RE DOING IT FOR THE SALES TAX.
SO I THINK WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY IS 150,000FT² OF FINISHED SPACE FOR 150 UNITS AND THEN 300,000 TO FINISH SPACE, THE FULL ALLOTMENT FOR THE REST OF IT.
YOU KNOW I'M AGREEABLE TO THAT.
YOU'VE BEEN REALLY GREAT THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS, AND YOU HAVE COME BACK MULTIPLE TIMES.
YOU'VE LISTENED TO SUGGESTIONS.
MINE. ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE, YES, EVERYBODY GOT IT.
AND YOU DID GET RID OF THE MULTIFAMILY, WHICH I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE.
I LIKE THE TOWNHOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY.
IT ALLOWS A NICE TIER FOR MAYBE PEOPLE STARTING OUT TO BE ABLE TO GET INTO HOME OWNERSHIP.
SO THE PHASING IS SOMETHING I APPRECIATE.
AND I COULD GET ON BOARD WITH WHAT YOU JUST ARTICULATED.
AND I WOULD JUST WANT TO ADD TO THAT, THERE WAS THAT ONE CLARIFICATION.
IF I WERE THE ONE TO MAKE THE MOTION ABOUT THE MINIMUM, CHANGE THAT TO MAXIMUM, JUST SO THAT THAT SURE, TYPO IS NOT A PROBLEM, BUT I CAN DEFINITELY GET ON BOARD WITH THAT PHASING.
WE CAN DO THAT. AND JUST THE LAST THING AND I'LL BE QUIET UNLESS YOU ASK A QUESTION, OKAY.
TO GET THAT BREAKOUT, WE GOT TO GET BOTH OF THESE.
AND THEY'RE NOT COMING UNLESS THEY HAVE A HOUSING FOR THE WORKER BEES AND SOME DENSITY ROOFTOPS.
AND THE ROOFTOP GUY JUST SAID, WE'RE NOT COMING UNLESS YOU GOT COMMERCIAL.
SO, THEY'RE PROBABLY YOU UNDERSTAND? YEAH. YOU UNDERSTAND THE PREDICAMENT THAT THAT THE THAT WE'RE IN HERE.
[02:20:02]
YES, MA'AM. BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE THAT CLEAR.RIGHT. THAT'S THE VERY LAST STEP FOR THE TOWNHOMES.
RIGHT. SO THEY COULD BE BUILT.
THEY'RE READY TO GO. THEY'RE READY TO BE SOLD.
THIS CRAZY GRADING PROJECT SPENT MILLIONS.
THEY'VE POURED THESE HUGE SLABS IN PARKING LOTS.
IF THESE THIRD BIGGEST RETAILS IN THE NATION WALK, I'M SELLING THE STOCK IMMEDIATELY.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT THERE'S TWO THINGS FOR TOWNHOMES SINCE IT'S SINGLE FAMILY.
THE FINAL INSPECTION IS CALLED THE BUILDING FINAL.
WE DON'T DO BUILDING FINAL OCCUPANCIES FOR RIGHT.
OKAY. WALL EXTERIOR INSPECTION.
ADAM, DOES THAT MEET YOUR EXPECTATION? COMPLETELY. OKAY.
ALL RIGHT. AND THEN THE NUMBERS WERE 150,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL FOR 150 TOWNHOMES.
YEAH. THE REMAINDER. YES, SIR.
HOW WOULD YOU ARTICULATE THAT? JUST THE REMAINING ENTITLEMENTS.
UNLOCKED. AT HOW MANY SQUARE FEET? COMMERCIAL? 300,000 OF 500 FOOT OF WALL.
OKAY. YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE THE MOTION.
I'M GOING TO TRY EVERYBODY ELSE BEFORE YOU DO.
IF ANYONE ELSE WANTS TO SAY BEFORE YOU DO IT, I JUST WANT TO GO OVER THE REST OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE WE MAKE THE MOTION, BECAUSE I HAVE LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS ON HERE. ALL RIGHT.
I NEED TO PROBABLY REWRITE THIS ON ANOTHER PIECE OF PAPER SO I CAN GET IT ALL STRAIGHT.
OKAY. SO THE FIRST ONE IN THE MOTION WOULD BE WITH THE CHANGES NOTED ON SLIDE 13.
THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT LEXIN HAD.
AND YOU HAD AN ITEM A LOT COVERAGE EXCEPTION, BUT WITH ALL OTHER REQUIREMENTS.
AND I TRIED TO CAPTURE THAT, BUT I DIDN'T QUITE GET IT SO BRYN COULD.
NO, WE DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
SO JUST. THAT'S JUST FOR FLEXIBILITY.
THEY CAN STILL BUILD THE PLAYGROUND IF THEY WANT TO.
SO IF YOU CAN COMMIT TO THAT, IT'S JUST MORE OF A THANK YOU.
SO I'M NOT GOING TO PUT THAT IN THE WORDING OF THE IF YOU JUST YOU KNOW IT'S NOT A COMMITMENT.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO IT.
SO WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE IT FLOWS.
IF THEY SEPARATE CLEVELAND AND GIBBS AND THIS BECOMES GIBBS ROAD, CAN WE JUST HAVE IT BE GIBBS ROAD ALL THE WAY UP? IS THAT A PROBLEM? WELL, I THINK WE COULD TURN LANDS DOWN INTO GIBBS, BUT I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO THROW OR CLEVELAND.
I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT'LL BE.
YEAH, I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE TIMING OF THAT IS OKAY TO DO THAT, BUT IF OKAY.
COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL. I JUST ALSO WEIGH IN ON THAT QUICKLY.
SO IF WE'RE DISSATISFIED, WE CAN UNILATERALLY CHANGE THE NAME.
OKAY. BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S CHANGING.
THE NAME CAN BE ONCE YOU HAVE ADDRESSES AND MAIL AND IT'S RIGHT.
BUT MAYOR PRO TEM, WE CAN LEAVE THAT OUT.
OKAY. YEAH, WE'LL LEAVE THAT OUT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS WHILE WE'RE DELIBERATING? NOT FOR THAT. I DID HAVE A COUPLE OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
[02:25:02]
NOT NEAR AS SIGNIFICANT AS WHAT WE'VE JUST GONE THROUGH.YES, SIR. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAVE THIS SORT OF DEVELOPMENT.
BIG BOXES AND THE ASSOCIATED RETAIL AND RESTAURANTS.
DAY ONE IS GOING TO BE GREAT ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
WHAT MECHANISMS DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THIS IS GREAT? 20 YEARS FROM TODAY, AFTER IT'S BUILT, THAT IT'S KEPT UP TO THE HIGH STANDARDS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE.
PROPERTY OWNERS' ASSOCIATION, FIRST OF ALL, BUILD IT BEAUTIFUL.
AND HAVE THE ASSOCIATION WHERE ALL THE.
IT'S NOT GOING TO BE FOR EVERYBODY.
THERE'S GOING TO BE A HOA FOR MR. TOWNHOME AND HIS GUYS.
AND I DON'T WANT TO BURDEN THEM WITH FLOWERS AT THE FRONT GATE.
THEY GOT TO PUT MORE WILDFLOWERS.
THEY GOT TO CUT THE WILDFLOWERS.
WE'VE GOT TO KEEP THE WATER IN THE FOUNTAIN OUT FRONT.
THE BIG STATUES CHANGE THE LIGHT BULBS.
I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS ON STAFF AND RETAINER THAT ARE HELPING US CREATE THE TOP TIER REQUIREMENTS FOR EVERYONE THAT BUYS ONE OF THESE PADS OR BLOCKS FOR A BIG BOX.
AND SO WE'RE GOING TO FUND THAT OURSELVES.
AND THAT'S I THINK MONEY KEEPS THINGS NICE.
AND IT ISN'T GOING INTO MY POCKET.
IT'S ALL GOING INTO THE GROUNDS.
SO THAT'S THE THAT'S THE BEST THING I KNOW TO DO.
AND I'M OPEN TO SUGGESTION IF YOU CAN BETTER THAT.
NO. AND THAT'S, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE WOULD BE A PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
AND TALK ME THROUGH THAT JUST A LITTLE BIT.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH A POA FOR COMMERCIAL? FOR COMMERCIAL WILL, THEY'LL HAVE A PERCENTAGE OF AMOUNT OF MONEY DUE ANNUALLY, WHETHER IT'S A SQUARE FOOTAGE OR HOW MUCH LAND DID THEY HAVE? PROBABLY SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDING, I'M ASSUMING, IS THE FAIREST WAY, AND THEN THEY CAN VOTE AMONGST THEMSELVES, OR WE CAN HOLD OURSELVES OUT RIGHT UP FRONT. DEPENDING ON OUR DEVELOPER AGREEMENT, WE CAN ALL AGREE THIS IS WHAT WE NEED YOU TO DO.
BUT I ANTICIPATE THEY'RE GOING TO WANT SOME SAY SO IN IT.
AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THESE BIG BOX GUYS WANT TO KEEP IT NICE.
OKAY. AND THIS IS THEIR HIGHEST LEVEL OF FINISH OUT THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE'RE REQUIRING OF THEM.
IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST A BIG ORANGE AND WHITE BOX OUT THERE.
THESE ARE FIRST CLASS LOOKING BUILDINGS.
YEAH, THE ELEVATIONS LOOK WONDERFUL.
AND WE HIRED THE BEST ARCHITECTS WE COULD BUY.
YOU KNOW BRYAN ARCHITECTS THEY'RE FIRST CLASS.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE THAT SCREENING WALL.
ON THAT I'D SAY THAT SOUTHEAST CORNER OR THE DEMARCATION BETWEEN THE RESIDENTIAL AND THE COMMERCIAL.
YOU ALSO HAVE THE, THE HOMES IN, IN ARGYLE THAT ARE EXISTING.
AND THEN TO THE EAST IN CANYON FALLS AND THEN TO THAT SOUTHEAST, MORE CANYON FALLS, AND THEN JUST SOUTH, WHICH IS GOING TO BE THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT YOU TALKED ABOUT ON NORTH LAKE IN NORTH LAKE. IS IT PROPERLY SCREENED FOR ALL THE OTHER RESIDENTS, NOT JUST THE FOLKS COMING UP DENTON CREEK? YES. IS THAT HOW THAT WAS DESIGNED? YES. NORTH LAKE, THERE'S ACTUALLY MASONRY WALLS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO TOTALLY SCREEN IT OFF.
GOOD IMPROVED SPECIES OF TREES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT.
WE'RE GOING TO BE PLANTING HUNDREDS OF THEM.
AND IN FACT, WE WERE GOING TO MAKE THEM IN THE TOWNHOMES.
SO, WE SAID, WELL, THEN LET'S COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, OKAY.
AND THEN I GUESS MY FINAL QUESTION.
AND I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PURSUE THE PENINSULA RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF THE CHALLENGES WITH THE ACCESS AND THE AVALON AND ARGYLE, OTHER THAN THE AVALON AND ARGYLE PORTION THAT PENINSULA, WHAT IS THE.
I KNOW IT'S NOT PART OF THIS ZONING TONIGHT, BUT IS THERE ANY CHANGE FOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN EAST OF THAT OF THIS ZONING SOUTH OF THE PENINSULA FROM AVALON AND ARGYLE? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.
NO, SIR. OKAY, THAT'S ALL I HAD.
[02:30:04]
SO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU WORKING WITH THE TOWN, THE STAFF AND THE RESIDENTS.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WHILE I'M HERE I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST HAVE A MORE OF A STATEMENT.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S BEEN REALLY GOOD WORKING WITH YOU GUYS.
I THINK I PROBABLY MET WITH YOU GUYS MAYBE TWO YEARS AGO ON THIS ONE.
I MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE FIRST. THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS REMOVING THE MULTIFAMILY.
I THINK THIS HAS A LOT OF WHAT THE WEST SIDE RESIDENTS ARE REALLY WANTING, THE BIG BOX STORES, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE THE FIRST, AT LEAST IN FLOWER MOUND WITH THE TIMELINES THAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING.
SO I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS SUCCESS DEVELOP AND I WISH YOU ALL THE BEST OF LUCK.
YEAH. THANK YOU, THANK YOU ALL.
I KNOW WE MET RECENTLY, SO IT WAS.
IT WAS NICE TO DISCUSS ALL THIS AND GET CAUGHT UP ON EVERYTHING.
WELL SO WITH THAT, JANVIER, DO YOU HAVE ANY ANYTHING TO ADD? AND WE CAN. NOTHING TO ADD.
GO AHEAD. AND I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR BRYN.
SO IS IT OKAY IF WE PROCEED WITH THE K.2 MOTION FIRST.
AND I SIMPLY STATE THAT AS PART OF THAT MOTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER THREE PROVISIONS WOULD BE PART OF THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.
SO OR DOES IT ALL NEED TO BE IN BOTH.
IT SHOULD ALL. YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT IN ORDER OKAY.
SO DO I NEED TO STATE THE FOUR EXCEPTIONS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IN DELIBERATION IN BOTH THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH IS K.1, AND THEN AGAIN IN K.2. SO I THINK THAT ALL OF THE MODIFICATIONS ARE REALLY FOR THE ZONING.
THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS JUST CHANGING THIS BLOB FROM CAMPUS COMMERCIAL TO HIGH DENSITY.
SO I WOULD PUT ALL OF YOUR MOTIONS ON THE ZPD, OR ALL THESE ADDITIONAL THINGS ON THE ZPD.
AND BEFORE YOU MAKE YOUR MOTION, CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? BECAUSE I'M ABOUT TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS, AND I WANT TO SAY WHY, IF THAT'S OKAY.
BUT IF THEY GO HERE, WE'RE GOING TO BE THE ONES THAT GET THAT AND BENEFIT FROM IT.
OUR SALES TAX REVENUE IN FLOWER MOUND IS DARN NEAR 80% PLUS OF OUR AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX REVENUE.
SO THIS IS THE BEST OPPORTUNITY WE HAVE.
PERSONALLY, I THINK THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND THE MOST IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT.
NOTWITHSTANDING THE OTHER VERY LARGE ONE THAT'S NEAR YOU.
THIS ONE IS MORE IMPORTANT IN MY OPINION.
SO I'M REALLY COUNTING ON YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL AND I WISH YOU THE VERY BEST.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING, SOME OF US ARE ABOUT TO GO TO AUSTIN IN A FEW WEEKS AND TESTIFY TO TRY TO ARGUE FOR THE SENATE, TEXAS SENATE AND HOUSE THAT WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR AUTHORITY FOR ZONING RESIDENTIAL ZONING IN TEXAS.
AND THESE GUYS IN AUSTIN THINK THAT IF WE HAVE THIS KIND OF TOWNHOME DEVELOPMENT EVERYWHERE UNRESTRICTED, THAT'S GOING TO SOLVE OUR HOUSING CRISIS AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE HOUSING AFFORDABLE FOR EVERYONE, APPARENTLY.
AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CROSS TIMBERS.
SO IF THAT LAW PASSES, THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE UNRESTRICTED EVERYWHERE IN TOWN.
SO, IT'S A LOT EASIER CONVERSATION FOR US TO HAVE IN FRONT OF THESE ELECTED OFFICIALS.
IF WE CAN SAY WE GET THE PROBLEM, WE SEE THE NEED, BUT THERE'S A RIGHT PLACE TO DO IT NEXT TO YOUR MAJOR TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR, AND THERE'S A WRONG PLACE TO DO IT WHEN WE'RE PRIORITIZING CONSERVATION AND, YOU KNOW, TREE PRESERVATION.
AND IT'S A LOT EASIER CONVERSATION TO HAVE WHEN WE'VE APPROVED A PROJECT OF THIS QUALITY.
SO I APPRECIATE THE CONCESSIONS YOU'VE MADE TONIGHT, AND I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE A BIG SUCCESS.
I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM K ONE AS WRITTEN.
TERESA, CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLL? OKAY. ONE PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
ALL RIGHT. SO, I'M GOING TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.
I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA K.2 AS WRITTEN WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.
[02:35:04]
NUMBER TWO, THE POCKET PARK IS TO INCLUDE A PLAYGROUND AND OR COMPARABLE AMENITY.C OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD IS TO BE CORRECTED TO SUBSTITUTE MAXIMUM IN LIEU OF MINIMUM IN THE TWO PLACES IN THAT ITEM. AND LASTLY, NUMBER FOUR, THAT 150,000FT² OF TOWNHOME BUILDING COMMERCIAL SPACE.
NO, I'M GOING TO DO IT THE OTHER WAY.
150,000 UNITS OF TOWNHOME WILL BE RELEASED FROM BUILDING FINAL, CONTINGENT UPON 150,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED TO WALL EXTERIOR INSPECTION APPROVAL, WITH THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL UNITS RELEASED CONTINGENT UPON AN ADDITIONAL 300,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT COMPLETED TO WALL EXTERIOR INSPECTION APPROVAL.
I WOULD SAY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO A BUILDING FINAL UNTIL.
I THINK ALSO YOU SAID 150 AND 300.
SO, IT'D BE ONE. THE SECOND PART IS 300.
THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL UNITS WOULD BE RELEASED CONTINGENT UPON 300,000.
IS THAT YOUR ANOTHER 300,000 TOTAL? OKAY. OKAY.
AND YOU COULD ALSO SAY I'M SORRY.
LEXIN, YOU LOOKED MORE URGENT THAN I DID.
AND THEN I'M HAPPY TO WORDSMITH THAT, IF YOU'D LIKE.
I DIDN'T. I MEANT THAT WITH NO OFFENSE.
I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY FOR SLIDE 13.
YES. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF OTHER THINGS ON THERE THAN THE TWO YOU MENTIONED.
SO IF YOU JUST WANT TO SAY SLIDE 13, I THINK THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
YOU WANT ME TO START THE WHOLE THING OVER? YEAH. THERESA, YOU HAVE TO GET IT DOWN.
RIGHT. SO DO YOU WANT ME TO START THE WHOLE THING OVER? I THINK FOR THIS IMPORTANCE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
AND JUST FOR EVERYONE WHEN THEY'RE.
THIS IS THE HARDEST ONE WE'VE EVER DONE, I THINK.
ALL RIGHT. I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM K.2 AS WRITTEN WITH THE FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONS.
WE INCORPORATE CHANGES NOTED ON SLIDE 13.
THE POCKET PARK WILL INCLUDE LIGHTING.
I'M SORRY. MY NOTES RAN TOGETHER.
THE POCKET PARK WILL INCLUDE THE PLAYGROUND AND OR COMPARABLE AMENITY.
C OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS WILL SUBSTITUTE THE WORD MAXIMUM IN LIEU OF MINIMUM IN TWO PLACES.
SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO BUILDING.
FINAL. SHALL NOT BE SUBJECT TO BUILDING FINAL UNTIL 150,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT IS COMPLETED TO WALL EXTERIOR INSPECTION APPROVAL.
AND WE WANT TO SAY THE FIRST 150.
CORRECT. THE FIRST 150 TOWNHOME UNITS.
SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO REPEAT THE WHOLE THING.
OKAY. AND THE REMAINING RESIDENTIAL UNITS SHALL BE RELEASED CONTINGENT UPON A TOTAL OF 300,000FT² OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT BEING COMPLETED TO WALL EXTERIOR INSPECTION APPROVAL.
THERE WE GO. AND? AND THE FINAL WORDING SHALL BE REVIEWED AND ACCEPTED BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
THAT'LL GIVE ME A LITTLE. I CAN'T CHANGE THE INTENT, BUT I CAN.
WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SAY? WOW. I WILL SECOND THAT.
THERESA, PLEASE TAKE THE ROLL.
ALL RIGHT. ITEM K.2 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
GOOD JOB. ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GET BUSY.
THE TIME IS NOW EXACTLY 9:00 PM, AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED.
GOOD NIGHT, FLOWER MOUND.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.