[A. CALL TO ORDER]
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          >> WELCOME FLOWER MOUND. 
          WE ARE CALLING THIS NOVEMBER 21ST WORK SESSION TO ORDER TONIGHT. 
          WE ARE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO IT. 
          WE HAVE A FEW ITEMS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT. 
          THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE RAINWATER HARVESTING AND NEW CONSERVATION SYSTEMS. TOMMY DALTON. I'M SORRY. 
          I WENT RIGHT PAST PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU ALL. 
          DOES ANYBODY WANT TO PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? I WANTED TO GET RIGHT INTO IT. 
          NO PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          THERE YOU GO. WE'RE GOING TO GO RIGHT INTO IT [LAUGHTER] WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO 
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THE RAINWATER HARVESTING AND WATER CONSERVATION SYSTEMS WITH TOMMY DALTON. HE'S GOING TO PRESENT IT. 
          >> WE'RE TAKING THE TEAM APPROACH TONIGHT. 
          WE'VE GOT SEVERAL FOLKS FROM STAFF THAT ARE GOING TO PRESENT VARIOUS OPTIONS AND THINGS THAT THE TOWN IS ALREADY DOING. 
          >> WE ARE JUMPING RIGHT IN. 
          GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. 
          I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TONIGHT. 
          FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW ME. MY NAME IS TYLER. 
          I AM THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROGRAMS COORDINATOR IN ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES. 
          I WILL ACTUALLY BE KICKING THINGS OFF FOR US TONIGHT FOLLOWED BY HANDING OVER TO MR. CLAYRIX FOR THE PUBLIC WORKS ELEMENT. 
          AS YOU RECALL IN THE AUGUST 19 MEETING, WE HAD PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT RAINWATER HARVESTING. 
          THEN IT WAS DISCUSSED LATER ON TO POTENTIALLY BRING THAT TOPIC BACK FOR DISCUSSION. 
          THAT'S WHAT THIS PRESENTATION IS TONIGHT, JUST DISCUSSING RAINWATER HARVESTING, GOING INTO SOME THINGS THAT WERE ALREADY DOING, WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE DOING, AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT POTENTIAL OPTIONS. 
          THE FLOW TONIGHT, OVERVIEW RAINWATER HARVESTING, WHAT OTHER CITIES ARE DOING, AND WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO. 
          COLLECTION OF RAINWATER IS BASICALLY WHAT RAIN HARVESTING IS. 
          IT IS BASICALLY COLLECTING IT AND SAVING IT FOR LATER USE. 
          AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT HAS CONSERVATION BENEFITS. 
          YOU ARE REDUCING DEMAND ON A MUNICIPAL WATER SYSTEM AND ON OUR WATER RESOURCES, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS KEY WITH GROWING POPULATION AND LIMITED WATER RESOURCES. 
          BUT IT ALSO HAS STORMWATER BENEFITS. 
          RAINWATER HARVESTING IS ACTUALLY ONE STRATEGY IN GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE, GSI. 
          YOU MAY HAVE ALSO HEARD IT REFERRED TO AS LOW IMPACT DEVELOPMENT. 
          BASICALLY DIFFERENT NAMES FOR THE SAME THING, ALSO BLUE GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          BASICALLY WHAT THEY ARE IS STRATEGIES TO SLOW DOWN THE FLOW OF WATER SO THAT IT HAS MORE TIME TO INFILTRATE INTO THE GROUND AND RECHARGE OUR GROUNDWATER RESERVES. 
          BUT ALSO THAT'S A WATER QUALITY BENEFIT BECAUSE AS IT INFILTRATES, THE WATER IS NATURALLY CLEANED VERSUS RUNNING OFF AND TAKING ALL THOSE CONTAMINANTS WITH IT INTO OUR WATER BODIES. 
          DIFFERENT ELEMENTS THERE. 
          OTHER GREEN STORMWATER INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS COULD BE RAIN GARDENS, BIOSWALES, GREEN ROOFS, PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, AND THEY CAN BE USED FOR MULTIPLE USES. 
          OUTDOOR FOR LANDSCAPING, OR ALSO AS YOU SEE THAT IMAGE ON THE BOTTOM THERE, THEY CAN BE USED INDOORS AS WELL. 
          WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME PROGRAM EXAMPLES, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL. 
          FIRST UP, WE WANT TO ADDRESS THE COMMERCIAL PROGRAMS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP AT PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          HB3391 IN 2011, AMONG OTHER THINGS, IT BASICALLY REQUIRED THE USE OF RAINWATER HARVESTING ON NEW STATE BUILDINGS OF A CERTAIN SIZE. 
          THERE ARE DIFFERENT CAVEATS IN THERE, BUT PRIMARILY 50,000 FEET OR LARGER, RAINWATER HARVESTING NEEDS TO BE USED. 
          THE CITY OF AUSTIN'S NEW ORDINANCE WAS ALSO MENTIONED, THAT WENT INTO EFFECT THIS APRIL. 
          THAT ORDINANCE REQUIRES NEW DEVELOPMENT, MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL TO UTILIZE WATER REUSE SYSTEMS. I THINK I LEFT MY CHEAT SHEET IN MY OFFICE. 
          DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL BUILDING IT IS AND THE SIZE, THAT DETERMINES THE REQUIRED REUSE ELEMENT. 
          DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, IT MAY BE RAINWATER FOR THIS. 
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DEPENDING ON DIFFERENT BUILDING USE, IT MAY REQUIRE CONDENSATE USE FOR THIS. 
          IT'S BASED ON SIZE, NEW BUILDINGS. 
          FOR EXISTING BUSINESSES, THEY HAVE A BUCKS FOR BUSINESS PROGRAM. 
          THAT IS A REBATE UP TO $100,000 THAT COMMERCIAL, INDUSTRIAL AND INSTITUTIONAL BUSINESSES CAN UTILIZE. 
          THAT IS A PRETTY INTENSIVE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAVE TO APPROACH AUSTIN WATER UPFRONT BEFORE THEY DECIDE TO DO A PROJECT. 
          IT REQUIRES A WATER AUDIT FROM THEM TO ANALYZE THE POTENTIAL SAVINGS OF A REUSE PROJECT OR WATER EFFICIENT UPGRADES. 
          THEN ONCE THAT'S DETERMINED, IT ALLOWS FOR $1 UP TO EVERY THOUSAND GALLONS SAVED ANNUALLY AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT A 10 YEAR TIME FRAME. 
          IT DOES ALSO REQUIRE STUDIES AND A LOT OF TIME ON THEIR PART, BUT THAT IS A SUBSTANTIAL REBATE. 
          OTHER REBATE PROGRAMS FOR COMMERCIAL THAT AUSTIN HAS ARE A SPECIFICALLY MULTIFAMILY HOA WATERWISE LANDSCAPE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, IF A CONDO HOA WANTED TO CONVERT PART OF THEIR LANDSCAPING FROM TURF TO NATIVE PLANTS, THEY COULD GET UP TO $5,000 TO DO THAT. 
          OTHER REBATES THEY OFFER ARE THINGS LIKE COMMERCIAL KITCHEN REBATE FOR WATER EFFICIENT UPGRADES FOR COMMERCIAL KITCHENS, AND FOR A COMMERCIAL AND MULTIFAMILY IRRIGATION IMPROVEMENT. 
          SMALLER DOLLAR AMOUNTS, AND IT VARIES BASED ON THE UPDATE. 
          A CENTRALIZED COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT CONTROLS ALL THE IRRIGATION, THERE'S $1 AMOUNT ALLOCATED TO THAT AND THEN VARIOUS DOLLAR AMOUNTS THROUGH THERE. 
          LOOKING MORE LOCALLY AND TO SOME OF OUR SURVEY CITIES. 
          WE FOUND THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS ALSO OFFERS A $100,000 REBATE, ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE THE CITY OF AUSTIN PROGRAM. 
          THERE IS JUST SLIGHTLY SLIGHTLY LESS PER 1,000 GALLONS. SIMILAR PROGRAM. 
          IT STARTS WITH A WATER AUDIT FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THEN THAT CONVERSATION EVOLVES FROM THERE. 
          WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE CITY OF LEWISVILLE OFFERS A REDUCTION IN YOUR STORMWATER FEE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE ZERO DISCHARGE. 
          THEN THE CITY OF DENTON HAS A RECLAIMED WATER FOR COMMERCIAL USE IN A LIMITED SERVICE AREA. 
          THAT'S LIKE THEIR PURPLE PIPE PROGRAM. 
          OF COURSE, THAT'S A SAVINGS BECAUSE THAT WATER IS CHEAPER. 
          ALSO KEEPING IT LOCALLY, WE LOOKED AT ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL OPTIONS. 
          IN OUR NORTH TEXAS AND SURVEY CITIES AREA, WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT SOME CITIES WILL OFFER WATER CONSERVATION REBATES ON THINGS LIKE LOW FLOW FIXTURES, AERATORS, LOW FLOW TOILETS. 
          OTHER CITIES JUST PROMOTE THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM CHECKS THAT THE WATER DISTRICT DOES. 
          THEN A VERY FEW DO RAIN BARREL CLASSES THAT'S ALSO TYPICALLY DONE BY THE WATER DISTRICT THAT THE CITY HOSTS. 
          ALTHOUGH CAPEL HOSTS CLASSES AT THEIR BIODIVERSITY EDUCATION CENTER. 
          WE ALSO FOUND A COUPLE OUTLIERS, ONE OF WHICH IS FRISCO THAT DOES AN ACTUAL RAIN BARREL SALE. 
          THE IDEA THERE BEING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET IT AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. 
          THERE WAS ALSO THE CITY OF CORINTH, THAT DOES A RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPE CONVERSION REBATE PROGRAM, AND THEN I HAD ONE MORE OUTLER ON MY CHEAT SHEET THAT I DON'T HAVE WITH ME. 
          BUT BASICALLY, MOST PEOPLE ARE DOING IRRIGATION SYSTEM CHECKS OR PROMOTING THINGS THAT THE WATER UTILITY ARE ALREADY DOING. 
          WITH THOSE FEW EXCEPTIONS WITH CONSERVATION REBATES, AND THOSE ARE CITIES LIKE ALLEN, LOUISVILLE FARMERS BRANCH. 
          THOSE ARE ALL THOSE REBATE OPTIONS. 
          >> COULD YOU EXPLAIN THE ZERO DISCHARGE, IS THAT OFF THE BUILDING? 
          >> YES. IF YOU'RE ABLE TO KEEP THE RAIN STORM WATER ON SITE, BASICALLY. 
          >> GENERALLY, YOU CATCH IT OFF THE BUILDING OR YOU'RE CATCHING IT OFF THE SITE IF IT TURNS OF? 
          >> THE IMPERVIOUS SERVICE LIKE A PARKING LOT RUNOFF. 
          CLAY, FEEL FREE TO JUMP IN AND CORRECT ME ANYTIME. 
          CHALLENGES TO INCENTIVIZING RAINWATER HARVESTING SPECIFICALLY THROUGH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE OFTEN RUN INTO WITH RAINWATER HARVESTING SPECIFICALLY IS THAT IT'S INSTALLED, IT'S FUNCTIONING, IT'S GREAT, 
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AND THEN THE PROPERTY MANAGEMENT CHANGES. 
          OR THERE'S A NEW FACILITIES DIRECTOR, OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WHERE THERE'S A CHANGE OF HANDS, AND THAT INFORMATION DOESN'T GET TRANSFERRED. 
          WE HEAR A LOT OF STORIES OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT THEY JUST ASSUME IT WAS SOMEBODY ELSE'S RESPONSIBILITY, OR THEY ASSUME THAT IT WAS IRRIGATING ALL THE PLANTS BECAUSE NOBODY REALIZED HOW THINGS WERE CONNECTED. 
          BUT ALL THE WHILE IT'S STILL THERE AND IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE USING RAINWATER HARVESTING. 
          THAT IS ONE OF THE CHALLENGES, AND ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I FOUND WITH AT LEAST WITH THE CITY OF AUSTIN THAT THEY ADDRESS THAT IS THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PLAN. 
          THERE'S A TIME PERIOD THAT THEY COMMIT TO FUNCTIONING SERVICE, AND THEN THEY ALSO DO INSPECTIONS. 
          SOME OTHER WAYS THAT CITIES INCENTIVE ESSENTIALLY RAINWATER HARVESTING OR WATER CONSERVATION IN LIGHT OF THOSE CHALLENGES IS TO ALLOW INCREASED LOT COVERAGE IF YOU'RE USING A PERMEABLE PAVEMENT. 
          THAT GOES BACK TO RUNOFF, LIKE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER WITH ALL THESE CONCRETE SURFACES, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, THE WATER DOESN'T PENETRATE DOWN, IT JUST RUNS OFF, AND THAT CREATES INCREASED FLOODING IMPACTS. 
          THAT'S ALSO A HUGE WATER QUALITY ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S TAKING ANY CONTAMINANTS WITH IT AS IT FLOWS. 
          THEN THAT ENDS UP IN OUR WATER BODIES AND WE'RE THEN HAVING TO EXTRA TREAT IT TO TURN IT INTO DRINKING WATER. 
          ALLOWING FOR INCREASED LOT COVERAGE, IF IT'S PERMEABLE, WHICH AGAIN, ALLOWS THE WATER TIME TO INFILTRATE INTO THE SOIL. 
          YOU CAN ALSO ALLOW AN INCREASED HEIGHT FOR BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, A 3,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONE STORY. 
          PERHAPS THEY GO TO A THREE STORY BUILDING AND EACH FLOOR IS 1,000 SQUARE FEET. 
          YOU'VE GOT THE SAME SQUARE FOOTAGE, BUT YOU'RE UTILIZING A SMALLER FOOTPRINT, WHICH, YOU'RE USING LESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACES SO THAT WATER CAN INFILTRATE. 
          OTHER OPTIONS ARE ALLOWING OFFSETS FOR PARK LAND DEDICATION OR THE RESTORATION OF NATURAL AREAS. 
          ALSO ELIMINATING THE REQUIREMENT FOR PERMANENT IRRIGATION SYSTEMS, IF AND WHERE NATIVE PLANTS ARE INSTALLED. 
          THEN ALSO, THERE'S THE POSSIBILITY OF PROVIDING SOMETHING LIKE A LANDSCAPE CREDIT SYSTEM. 
          DEPENDING ON WHAT'S USED AND WHERE, THAT GIVES THEM MORE CREDITS TO USE ELSEWHERE. 
          A FEW MORE EXISTING PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE AT THE TOWN. 
          WE HAVE THE ADOPTED POLICY OF USING NATIVE AND ADOPTED LANDSCAPING AT TOWN FACILITIES. 
          YOU GUYS MAY HAVE ALSO SEEN THAT OUT IN THE PARKING LOT OUT HERE, WE UTILIZE BIOSWALES, AND BIOSWALES ARE ESSENTIALLY LIKE A RAIN GARDEN, WHICH HOLDS THE WATER, BUT IT'S ALSO CHANNELING THE WATER. 
          IT IS CHANNELING THE WATER AWAY. 
          BUT IN THE PROCESS IT'S SLOWING IT DOWN TO ALLOW FOR INFILTRATION THERE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE OUR APPROVED TREE PLANTING LIST, WHICH, NATIVE AND ADOPTED. 
          THEN WE DO QUITE A BIT OF EDUCATION, CENTERING AROUND NATIVE PLANTS, WATER CONSERVATION, IRRIGATION, BEST PRACTICES. 
          WE DO THE SPEAKER SERIES OF THE LIBRARY NOW AND JUST THIS FALL, WE HAD UPPER TRINITY DOING A WATER WISE LANDSCAPE CLASS. 
          WE DO OUR VIDEO SERIES, WHICH WE ALSO DID IN CONJUNCTION WITH UPPER TRINITY. 
          CYCLONE SOAK WAS THE LAST ONE. 
          TRYING TO GET THOSE TOPICS AT THE FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS AND IN WHATEVER WAY WE CAN. 
          WE ALSO DO COMPOST EDUCATION AT EVENTS AND DIFFERENT FORMS OF OUTREACH THERE. 
          THE TOWN ALSO DOES HAVE SIMILAR TO LEWISVILLE, A STORMWATER FEE REDUCTION INCENTIVE, AND WE ALSO HAVE OUR PURPLE PIPE WATER REUSE UPCOMING, WHICH BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS CLAY IS GOING TO TALK ABOUT MORE IN JUST A MINUTE. 
          WE ALSO HAVE IN ADDITION TO THE WATER CONSERVATION ELEMENTS AND OUR EXISTING ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS. THE TOWN ALSO HAS EXISTING STANDARDS OR I'M SORRY, ALLOWANCES WITHIN OUR STANDARDS AND ORDINANCES THAT HELP PROMOTE CONSERVATION IN GENERAL. 
          THE FLEXIBILITY FOR MATERIALS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO INSTALL MORE PAVEMENT, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO DO THAT WITH DIFFERENT PERMEABLE PAVERS. 
          THERE'S ALSO THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE ALTERNATIVE MATERIALS THAT MAYBE MIGHT NOT BE CONSIDERED THAT MIGHT BE MORE SUSTAINABLE. 
          AS FAR AS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, 
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WE HAVE THE OPTION TO REDUCE THE MINIMUM WITH A STUDY. 
          OF COURSE, DIFFERENT MITIGATION OPTIONS. 
          AS I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THAT INCREASED PARKING AREA, ONE OF THE MITIGATION OPTIONS IS USING PERMEABLE PAVERS, ALTHOUGH MOST PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO PLANT TREES. 
          >> AT THIS POINT, I'M GOING TO HAND OFF THE CLAY, HE'S GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC WORKS ELEMENT. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, EVEN COUNCIL. 
          AS YOU KNOW, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT RAINWATER HARVESTING, BUT THAT IS REALLY BASICALLY WATER CONSERVATION. 
          THAT'S ONE WATER CONSERVATION STRATEGY. 
          WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION, WE ALSO ALMOST TALK ABOUT STORMWATER IN THE SAME BREATH BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MUCH OVERLAP. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I WANT TO POINT OUT IS ON OUR STORMWATER RATE STRUCTURE, WE DO HAVE FOR RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE A DETENTION FACILITY. 
          THEY CAN GET A 17% REDUCTION ON THE STORMWATER RATE. 
          SO ONE OF THINGS TWO, I WANT TO POINT OUT IS WE'RE CURRENTLY JOHN AND HIS TEAM ARE UNDERWAY WITH A STORMWATER UTILITY SYSTEM RATE UPDATE, THIS IS BASED ON IMPERVIOUS AREA. 
          I THINK YOU HEARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IF YOU REMEMBER. 
          SO I JUST POINT THAT OUT, THAT IS THE CURRENT DISCOUNT THAT WE HAVE FOR THE STORMWATER FEE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO? 
          >> WERE YOU GOING TO ASK WHAT IS IT? WHAT WOULD QUALIFY AS STORMWATER DETENTION LIKE IF I HAD A POND ON MY PROPERTY OR? 
          >> FOR INSTANCE, IF IT'S A SUBDIVISION, RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION, AND THEY ACTUALLY HAD A DETENTION POND THAT SLOWED THAT WATER DOWN TO PRE EXISTING RUNOFF RATES. 
          >> WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO TO GET THAT DONE THEN? 
          >> IT IS UP TO THE RESIDENT TO REQUEST IT. 
          ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS REQUEST IT, AND THEN IT WILL BE APPLIED. 
          >> IS THERE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A POND WHICH WOULD QUALIFY DETENTION POND? ANYTHING ELSE? 
          >> THERE'S UNDERGROUND DETENTION, BUT IT'S BASICALLY DETENTION. 
          WE HAVE THAT LIKE AT RACE TRACK. 
          IT'S ALL UNDERNEATH THE PARKING LOT. 
          >> A HOME OF AVERAGE LOT SIZE PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO GET THAT. 
          >> NO, IT WOULD BE THE SUBDIVISION. 
          IF YOU'RE IN A SUBDIVISION THAT HAS A DETENTION POND AND IT DETAINS THAT SUBDIVISIONS WATER, EVERYBODY IN THE SUBDIVISION IS ABLE TO GET THAT DISCOUNT. 
          >> OH, NICE. GOOD TO KNOW. 
          >> BECAUSE YES, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PUT A DETENTION FACILITY ON YOUR OWN. 
          >> DRY DETENTION POND COUNTS TOO? 
          >> YES. AS LONG AS IT'S REDUCING THE RUNOFF. 
          >> THEN EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER HAS TO FIRST BE AWARE OF THAT, THAT THERE IS THE DISCOUNT, THEN THEY EACH HAVE TO APPLY SEPARATELY? 
          >> YES. 
          >> I BET A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW THAT. 
          I DIDN'T KNOW. DID YOU GUYS KNOW? 
          >> HOW CAN WE GET THAT WORD OUT SO THAT PEOPLE CAN RECOGNIZE THAT THEY CAN GET A DISCOUNT? 
          >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN TALK TO OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AND INTERNALLY AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT WHAT. 
          >> THAT WOULD BE GOOD. 
          >> ONE OF THE THINGS IN OUR WATER DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM, OBVIOUSLY, WE MONITOR OUR WATER, IT'S DRINKING WATER, SO WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY. 
          BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WHENEVER WE TALK ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION AND THIS GRAPH SHOWS THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN WATER USAGE BETWEEN THE SUMMER AND WINTER MONTHS. 
          ONE OF THE BIGGEST PLACES WHERE YOU CAN GET THE MOST BANG FOR YOUR BUCK AND WATER CONSERVATION IS ACTUALLY SMART IRRIGATION PRACTICES. 
          BASICALLY, IF YOU CAN FIGURE OUT A WAY TO REDUCE THE IRRIGATION, THAT HAS THE BIGGEST HIT ON PRESERVING OUR WATER SUPPLIES. 
          FOR INSTANCE, THIS AUGUST, WE USED 872 MILLION GALLONS. 
          LAST AUGUST WE USED 988. 
          NO LAST YEAR WAS A LOT HOTTER AND DRIER THAN THIS YEAR. 
          WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS THAT ABOUT 70% OF OUR WATER IN AUGUST WAS JUST BEING USED TO DUMP ON THE GROUND AT IRRIGATE WATER. 
          BUT THAT'S TREATED TO DRINKING WATER QUALITY, WHICH IS EXPENSIVE, AND THAT'S A BIG TREATMENT PROCESS. 
          A LOT OF THAT GOOD WATER QUALITY THAT YOU CAN DRINK IS JUST BEING DUMPED ON THE GROUND. 
          FOR INSTANCE, OUR AVERAGE DAILY USE IN JULY AND AUGUST, RESIDE OUR SYSTEM IS DELIVERING 27-31 MILLION GALLONS A DAY. 
          COMPARED TO JANUARY, FEBRUARY, IT'S NINE. 
          THERE'S A BIG JUMP THERE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO DO IS WE MONITOR ANNUALLY. 
          THIS IS ONE OF THE CHARTS I LOOK AT, I GET THESE TWO GRAPHS MONTHLY, AND WE ALSO LOOK AT HOW WE'RE COMPARING YEAR TO YEAR. 
          THIS YEAR IS THE BLUE LINE, AND YOU CAN SEE IT'S BEEN A MILDER SUMMER, AND WE HAD PARTICULARLY WET JUNE AND JULY, AND SO THE WATER DEMAND WASN'T NEARLY AS HIGH AS THE LAST TWO SUMMERS. 
          I WILL POINT OUT THIS IS INTERESTING. 
          FOR OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR, YOU SEE OUR WATER USE WAS HIGHER THAN THE PREVIOUS TWO YEARS. 
          WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE THIS OCTOBER WE HAD NO MEASURABLE RAINFALL UNTIL HALLOWEEN AND SO I WAS ONE OF THE DRIEST OCTOBERS WE'VE SEEN IN A WHILE. 
          THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE WATER CONSERVATION WE TALK ABOUT. 
          WE HAVE A WATER CONSERVATION, WHICH IS AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, AND THEN WE HAVE A DROUGHT CONTINGENCY PLAN. 
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IF WE HAVE DEMAND ON OUR SYSTEM IS PUTTING STRAIN ON OUR SYSTEM OR WHOLESALE PROVIDERS, OR WE SEE THE LAKE LEVELS DECLINING, WHAT DO WE DO IN ORDER TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT IRRIGATION USE BECAUSE THAT'S THE BIGGEST USER DURING THE SUMMER. 
          SOME OF THE THINGS WITH THE WATER CONSERVATION SIDE, OF COURSE, WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE AND PROMOTE EFFICIENT USE OF WATER RESOURCES. THAT'S THE WHOLE INTENT. 
          LIKE TYLER WAS SAYING WE HAVE EDUCATION. 
          ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS IN OUR WATER RATE STRUCTURE, WE HAVE AN INCLINING BLOCK STRUCTURE, WHICH IS THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU TYPICALLY THINK. 
          WHENEVER YOU'RE PURCHASING SOMETHING, IF YOU'RE PURCHASING IN BULK AND THE MORE YOU BUY, THE SMALLER THE UNIT RATE IS. 
          WELL, WITH WATER CONSERVATION AND OUR WATER RATE STRUCTURE, WE KNOW THAT THE MORE PEOPLE ARE USING, THEY'RE IRRIGATING, TYPICALLY PROBABLY OVER IRRIGATING. 
          THE MORE YOU USE, THE MORE YOU GET CHARGED. 
          THAT'S TO BASICALLY DISCOURAGE INEFFICIENT WATERING. 
          WE ALSO DO METER REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT. 
          I TALKED TO JOHN EARLIER TODAY AND WE REPLACE ABOUT 1,200, 01,500 METERS EVERY YEAR. 
          THEN WE ALSO DO WATER AUDIT. 
          WE'RE CHECKING TO SEE IF THERE'S LEAKS IN OUR SYSTEM, WHAT WE CAN DO TO FIX THAT AND ALL THE THINGS, AND THEN REUSE, WHICH I'LL TALK MORE ABOUT HERE IN A LITTLE BIT. 
          BUT ON THE DROUGHT CONTINGENCY STAGE OR SIDE, WE HAVE FOUR STAGES. 
          THE FIRST STAGE IS BASICALLY NO WATERING BETWEEN 10 AND SIX BECAUSE THAT'S IT'S NOT AS GOOD, SO YOU'RE LOSING A LOT OF IT TO EVAPORATION. IT'S JUST SO HOT. 
          THEN STAGE 2, NO MORE THAN THREE TIMES A WEEK. 
          STAGE 3, NO MORE THAN TWICE A WEEK. 
          THEN STAGE 4, NO IRRIGATION AT ALL. 
          AS FAR AS I KNOW, WE'VE NEVER EVEN GOT TO STAGE 3. 
          BUT THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS, BUT THOSE ARE THE BIG HIGHLIGHTS. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS ARE NO USE OF ORNAMENTAL FOUNTAINS, NO WASHING YOUR CAR. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER COMPONENTS THAT GO INTO THAT. 
          >> WE'RE IN STAGE 1 NOW? 
          >> YES. 
          >> WE'VE BEEN IN STAGE 1 FOR A LONG TIME. 
          >> WE'RE PRETTY MUCH IN STAGE 1 CONTINUOUSLY. 
          >> IN THE WINTER WHEN IT'S WET AND SPRING DOESN'T MATTER. 
          STILL STAGE 1? WHY IS THAT? 
          >> THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT DALLAS AND UPPER TRINITY. 
          THAT'S FOLLOWING WHAT THEY ARE. 
          ALL OF THEIR SYSTEM IS NO WATERING BETWEEN 10 AND SIX. 
          >> THEN WE HAVE TWO DAY A WEEK WATERING AS PART OF OUR STAGE 1. 
          YOU'RE DESIGNATED TWO DAYS A WEEK? 
          >> AT THAT TIME, IT'S ENCOURAGED. 
          WHAT WE DO IS WE ENCOURAGE TWICE A WEEK AND TO USE IT ON CERTAIN DAYS. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS IS OUR PROVIDERS, DALLAS AND UPPER TRINITY, THEIR STAGE 1 IS BASICALLY TWO DAYS A WEEK AND 10-6. 
          THAT BEING SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN WITH NEW DEVELOPMENT AS A NEW DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, THE HOMEBUILDERS COME IN, THEY BUILD ALL THE HOMES. 
          THEY PUT DOWN BRAND NEW LANDSCAPING AND IT LOOKS GREAT, EVERYTHING IS GREEN. 
          BUT IN ORDER TO GET IT ESTABLISHED, THE HOMEBUILDER WILL GO AHEAD RIGHT BEFORE THEY'RE READY TO GET THEIR FINAL APPROVAL. 
          THEY'LL GO AHEAD AND THEY'LL SET THAT CONTROLLER TO WATER EVERY DAY AT MIDNIGHT. 
          THEN NEW HOMEOWNER COMES IN. 
          THEY DON'T EVEN REALIZE THE SPRINKLER SYSTEMS RUNNING UNTIL THEY GET THAT FIRST BILL, AND THEN THEY GO, OH MY GOSH. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS AND TYLER MENTIONED IT. 
          WE HAVE A NEW HOMEOWNER'S PACKET, AND THIS YEAR, WE CREATED THIS HANDOUT THAT GOES IN EVERY HOMEOWNER'S PACKET, AND CONGRATULATE YOUR NEW HOME. 
          NOW IT'S TIME TO GO CHECK THAT IRRIGATION CONTROLLER. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS, WE HAVE HELPFUL RESOURCES IN HERE TOO, WE HAVE WATERYARD.ORG, WHICH YOU CAN GO TO THAT, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR IT. 
          IT KNOWS WHERE YOU ARE AND YOU CAN TELL IT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOUR SYSTEM, AND THEN IT CHECKS THE WEATHER AND IT WILL GIVE YOU WEEKLY UPDATES ON HOW MUCH YOU SHOULD WATER YOUR YARD. 
          THE OTHER THING TOO WE HAVE IS WE HAVE A VIDEO LINK THAT UPPER TRINITY PUT OUT THAT WILL ACTUALLY WALK YOU THROUGH HOW TO USE YOUR CONTROLLER AND HOW TO ADJUST IT. 
          ALL OF THEM ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY, BUT THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME. 
          THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE GIVE TO EVERY NEW HOMEOWNER. 
          THIS IS FROM THE TEXAS WATER DEVELOPMENT BOARD. 
          AGAIN, SMART IRRIGATION PRACTICING, AS YOU CAN SEE, THE FIRST ONE, CHECK YOUR IRRIGATION SETTINGS. CHECK IT REGULARLY. 
          THEY DO HAVE RAINWATER HARVESTING AS A STRATEGY IN THERE, AND OF COURSE, DON'T WATER SIDEWALKS AND DRIP IRRIGATION AROUND TREES AND ALL THE JUST SMART THINGS. 
          I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT. 
          SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE DO BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO JUST WASTE WATER, AND THAT MEANS IN OUR SYSTEM TOO. 
          IF WE'RE LEAKING WATER, WE WANT TO FIX IT, THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR OUR SYSTEM. 
          WE'RE ALSO HAVING TO PAY FOR THAT WATER AND NOT GETTING ANYTHING IN RETURN. 
          WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING ANNUALLY AT OUR SYSTEM, TRYING TO IDENTIFY LEAKS AND GO OUT AND FIX THEM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID THIS PAST YEAR IS ACTUALLY A NEW TECHNOLOGY AND IT'S SATELLITE LEAK DETECTION. 
          SATELLITES FLYING OVER IN ORBIT CAN ACTUALLY PASS OVER FLOWER MOUND AND IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE THEY'RE PICKING UP BASICALLY SATURATED SOILS, AND THEN THEY CAN COME BACK. 
          THIS IS THE SAME TECHNOLOGY THAT THEY USED TO FIGURE OUT IF THERE WAS WATER ON MARS. 
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THE COMPANY BASICALLY SAID, HEY, WE CAN TURN THIS BACK AROUND AND SHOOT IT ONTO COMMUNITIES AND HELP COMMUNITIES. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID IS BEFORE WE JUST WENT OUT AND PAID FOR THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY, WE ASKED THEM WHO'S USED IT, SO IRVING, GARLAND, PLANO, DFW AIRPORT, BENBROOK HAD ALL USED THIS IN THE PAST IN DFW AREA, AND SO THEY ALL HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH IT. 
          WE TRIED IT OUT THIS YEAR. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD GOOD SUCCESS WITH IT, TOO. 
          >> THE STREET NEXT TO ME ALWAYS SEEMS TO HAVE WATER RUNNING DOWN THE GUTTER TOO THE STORM DRAIN. 
          I THINK IT'S COMING OUT OF SOMEBODY'S YARD. 
          NOW, DOES IT MATTER WHICH SIDE OF THE METER THAT IT'S ON IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO NOTICE IT IF IT'S ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE OF THE METER? 
          >> WE'LL NOTICE IT WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY. 
          THIS TECHNOLOGY CAN ALSO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN IF IT'S DRINKING WATER CHLORINATED WATER OR IF IT'S NOT. 
          IF IT'S A LEAKING SEPTIC SYSTEM, IT'S NOT GOING TO REPORT THAT BACK TO US. 
          >> HOW OFTEN ARE WE CHECKING FOR THAT? 
          >> ANNUALLY ONCE A YEAR. 
          >> OKAY. DID THEY FIND WATER ON MARS? 
          >> I BELIEVE THEY DID. I THINK IT WAS DEEP IN MAR. 
          >> PRETTY GOOD TECHNOLOGY. 
          >> I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY PLAN ON USING THAT INFORMATION. 
          >> IS THAT SOMETHING A HOMEOWNER CAN REQUEST? THEIR PROPERTY TO BE ASSESSED IF THEY NOTICE SOGGY SPOT OR LIKE COUNCILMAN STILL SAYS, WATER COMING TO THE STREET. 
          CAN THEY ASK THE TOWN TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THAT? 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. 
          >> OKAY. YEAH. 
          >> WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO A SATELLITE FLYOVER, BUT WE CAN. 
          >> NO. OF COURSE NOT. 
          >> OKAY. THANK YOU. 
          >> WHEN DID WE GET THIS SYSTEM? 
          >> THIS IS NOT OUR SYSTEM. 
          WE PAY THEM FOR THE SERVICE. 
          >> OKAY. 
          >> THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE GET BACK FROM THE INITIAL PASS. 
          WE GET BACK FROM THE INITIAL PASS, BASICALLY POI POINTS OF INTEREST. 
          THEY IDENTIFIED, I THINK IT WAS SOMETHING LIKE 200 POINTS OF INTEREST. 
          THAT'S BASICALLY AREAS WHERE THEY'VE DETECTED SATURATION WITHIN A 300 FOOT RADIUS. 
          THEN THE NEXT STEP IS TO ACTUALLY GET BOOTS ON THE GROUND, GO INVESTIGATE THAT AREA AND SEE IF IT'S TRULY A LEAK OR IF IT'S JUST AN ANOMALY. 
          SO 200 POINTS OF INTEREST. 
          WE ACTUALLY HAD 200 POINTS OF INTEREST IDENTIFIED. 
          THEN BOOTS ON THE GROUND, WE SEND PEOPLE OUT TO ACTUALLY GO LOOK AT THOSE, OF THOSE 200 LOCATIONS, WE VERIFIED 27. 
          SOME OF THOSE WERE ON THE TOWN SYSTEM, SOME OF THEM WERE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE, AND THEN SOME OF THEM WERE IRRIGATION SYSTEMS THAT WERE LEAKING OR HAD AN ISSUE. 
          THEN WE'RE ABLE TO TALK TO THAT HOMEOWNER AND TELL THEM, HEY, YOU HAVE A LEAK ON YOUR SIDE, YOU HAVE SOMETHING WRONG WITH THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM, AND THEN WE CAN FIX OUR SIDE TOO. 
          AGAIN, THERE'S ALL DIFFERENT TOOLS AND TOOLBOX. 
          WHENEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAK DETECTION, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO DO IN OUR LARGE TRANSMISSION MAINS IS WE USE A SMART BALL TECHNOLOGY. 
          WE ACTUALLY PUT A BALL IN THERE THAT DOES ACOUSTIC SOUNDING, AND IT CAN TELL US THE THICKNESS OF THE PIPE, WHAT SHAPE THAT PIPES IN, AND IF IT DETECTS A LEAK BECAUSE IT'LL MAKE NOISE AND THE ACOUSTICS CAN PICK THAT UP. 
          HERE'S A PICTURE OF OUR WASTEWATER SEWER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          YOU MAY BE SAYING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WATER CONSERVATION. 
          WHY ARE WE LOOKING AT PICTURES OF A WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT? WELL, AS YOU KNOW, OUR PLANT IS TWO PLANTS REALLY IN ONE. 
          WE HAVE OUR CONVENTIONAL SIDE, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR SEQUENT BATCH REACTOR, SBRS, WHICH DO EVERYTHING THE CONVENTIONAL SITE CAN DO, AND I WON'T GET TOO MUCH INTO OUR PLANT ITSELF. 
          BUT ONE OF THE VERY FINAL PHASES, BOTH OF THESE IS THE UV LIGHT. 
          THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHERE ANY ORGANISMS OR ANYTHING ARE STERILIZED. 
          NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO IN ORDER TO REDUCE THAT PEAK OF ALL THIS DRINKING WATER QUALITY JUST GETTING DUMPED ON THE GROUND IS WE CAN DO WHAT'S CALLED REUSE. 
          WE CAN ESSENTIALLY GRAB THE WATER COMING OUT OF OUR TREATMENT PLANT BEFORE IT'S TREATED TO DRINKING WATER QUALITY, BUT IT'S TREATED TO WATER QUALITY THAT'S SAFE ENOUGH TO RETURN BACK INTO THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          WHAT WE CAN DO IS RIGHT AFTER THE UV SYSTEM, WE GRAB THAT AND WE PUMP IT OVER INTO SOME STORAGE TANKS, AND THEN WE HIT IT WITH SOME SODIUM HYPOCHLORIDE, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY CHLORINE. 
          THEN WE MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFER, THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THE TYPE 1 REUSE WATER. 
          THEN IT'S SAFE TO USE TO IRRIGATE FIELDS. 
          LIKE OUR LAKESIDE AREA, WE HAVE TO IRRIGATE ALL OF THE TOWN PARKS, THE LAKESIDE WAREHOUSES, ALL OF THAT. 
          THAT BEING SAID, TOO, I WILL ALSO MENTION THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY IN DESIGN FOR PHASE 1. 
          YOU CAN SEE, WE BROKE IT UP INTO FIVE PHASES, AND BY THE TIME THAT WE GET TO THE FINAL PHASE ON A PEAK DAY, THAT'LL PROVIDE A 6.5 MILLION GALLONS. 
          WHENEVER YOU THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH WE'RE USING AND HOW MUCH WE PAY TO GET THAT DRINKING WATER DUMPED ON THE GROUND, THIS WILL BE AT A LOWER RATE, AND IT'LL ALSO HELP US FROM NOT HAVING TO PURCHASE MORE SUBSCRIPTION FROM UPPER TRINITY OR DALLAS. 
          [00:30:04]
NOW, THAT'S OUT OF OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT. 
          NOW ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN, ALL OF THIS WATER GOES TO TRINITY RIVER AUTHORITY OR TRA. 
          IT GOES DOWN TO THEIR DENTON CREEK PLANT, WHICH IS DOWN SOUTH, I THINK IT'S TECHNICALLY IN RONAK. 
          BUT THEIR DISCHARGE POINT ACTUALLY COMES THROUGH FLOWER MOUND RIGHT OFF OF DUNHAM ROAD. 
          >> LUCKILY, I THINK TIFFANY WAS ACTUALLY THE ONE SMART ENOUGH TO THINK ABOUT IT BACK IN THE DAY WHEN WE WERE RUNNING ALL THOSE LINES, BUT WE SAID, HEY, PUT US A TAP OFF OF THAT DISCHARGE LINE, AND THEN WHENEVER EVERYTHING DEVELOPS OUT HERE, WE ARE ABLE TO DO REUSE OUT HERE AS WELL. 
          CURRENTLY AS THE DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN COMING IN, THAT PURPLE PIPE IS BEING LAID TOO. 
          A LOT OF THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS ALREADY LAID. 
          ONCE WE GET READY AND WE SEE THE GROWTH OUT THERE, WE CAN KICK OFF THIS PROJECT AND WE CAN USE REUSE IN THE WESTERN PART OF TOWN AS WELL. 
          >> IS THERE ENCOURAGEMENT FOR LAKESIDE SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALREADY CONNECTED UP TO OUR WATER SYSTEM FOR THEM TO CONNECT THEIR IRRIGATION TO THE REUSE SYSTEM OR? 
          >> IN FACT, ALL OF THAT SET UP TO WHERE ONCE IT'S READY TO GO AND WE BRING IT OVER THERE, THEY HAVE A SEPARATE METER AND WE'LL TIE TO THAT METER AND SWITCH IT OVER TO REUSE, AND SAME WITH OUR PARKS. 
          THE PARKS, THE WATER AND THE BATHROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IS A DIFFERENT METERING THAN WHAT THE IRRIGATION SYSTEM IS. 
          >> BUT THEY'VE AGREED TO USE THE REUSE OR? 
          >> NO, WE'LL NEED TO REACH OUT TO THEM WHENEVER IT'S TIME FOR THAT, BUT PARTICULARLY A BUSINESS, YOU TELL THEM IT'S GOING TO SAVE YOU MONEY. 
          THEY GO, YES, WE WANT TO BE ON BOARD ON THAT. 
          FOR HERE OUT WEST, YOU SEE THAT'LL CUT ABOUT TWO MILLION GALLONS A DAY DURING THAT PEAK SUMMER. 
          WITH THAT, THAT'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO. 
          WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RAINWATER HARVESTING OR CONSERVATION, I WANT TO TELL YOU SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING. 
          WITH THAT, TYLER, LEXIN AND I ARE ALL UP HERE READY FOR SOME QUESTIONS AND TO GET DIRECTION. 
          >> DO YOU SEE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE TOWN CAN TAKE OTHER STEPS TO FURTHER THIS EFFORT, OR DO YOU THINK WE'RE IN THE SWEET SPOT WITH WHAT WE'RE DOING IS FROM A COST OF BENEFIT? 
          >> I THINK WE'RE IN THE SWEET SPOT, COST OF BENEFIT. 
          >> FOR THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, DO WE DO ANY EDUCATION PROGRAMS TO ENCOURAGE RAINWATER HARVESTING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? 
          >> I GET REAL EXCITED TALKING ABOUT EDUCATION, READY TO COME ON. 
          SO FAR CLASSES, WE HAVE NOT DONE RAINWATER SPECIFICALLY, THE CLOSEST ONE HAS BEEN ON COMPOSTING BECAUSE COMPOST IS ACTUALLY ANOTHER GOOD METHOD FOR SAVING WATER BECAUSE IT'LL ABSORB MORE AND HOLD MORE WATER, BUT I ACTUALLY AM TALKING TO UPTON WATER DISTRICT AND ACTUALLY JUST TODAY, I GOT CONFIRMATION ON ONE. 
          BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A COUPLE FOR OUR SPRING PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU FOLLOW OUR ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, WE DO SPEAKER SERIES AND CLASSES AT THE LIBRARY EACH SPRING AND FALL. 
          IT'S SOUNDING TWO OF THOSE WILL BE WATER CONSERVATION FOCUS THIS YEAR. 
          >> AWESOME. 
          >> GO AHEAD. 
          >> YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE REBATE PROGRAMS. DO YOU SEE ANY BENEFIT IN EXPANDING ANY OF THOSE, HE REBATE PROGRAMS? 
          >> EXISTING REBATE PROGRAMS. THAT WOULD BE YOUR QUESTION WITH EXISTING REBATES. 
          >> IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ALL WANT TO GO. 
          A REBATE PROGRAM, OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE TO YOU HAVE TO FUND THAT. 
          SOME OF THAT MAY BE ADJOIN QUESTION TOO, BUT WE COULD OBVIOUSLY DO JUST ABOUT ANYTHING THAT Y'ALL WANT US TO. 
          >> CAN WE ROLL BACK TO SLIDE 5 WHERE WE GOT INTO SOME OF THOSE ORDINANCE CHANGES AND INCENTIVES? 
          >> BEFORE WE DO THAT, IF IF I MAY, COUNCIL MASHISTO, I THINK JOHN HAD SOME INPUT ON THE REBATE QUESTION. 
          A LOT OF THIS IS TAKING MONEY AWAY FROM YOUR UTILITY SYSTEM. 
          THAT'S ACTUALLY A BIG PART OF THIS, AND SO YOU ARE DECREASING THE USAGE OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM. 
          FROM A BUSINESS PERSPECTIVE, YOU CAN'T BASICALLY PROVIDE THESE REBATES OUT OF THE UTILITY SYSTEM BECAUSE YOU'RE ACTIVELY DECREASING THE BUSINESS. 
          I'D HAVE TO COME FROM THE GENERAL FUND IF WE DID IT. 
          THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS THAT IF WILDLY SUCCESSFUL, IF A LOT OF PEOPLE DO TAKE THIS UP AND WE ACTUALLY DO CURB CONSUMPTION, WATER RATES WILL GO UP. 
          A OUR WATER PROVIDERS, THEY CHARGE A RATCHET BASED PRICING MODEL. 
          AS LONG AS WE DON'T CHANGE OUR TOTAL CONSUMPTION, WHICH THAT'S WHAT REUSE IS THERE FOR IS TO CUT BACK US FROM HOW MANY INCREASE THAT BIG INCREMENT IN THAT BIG RATCHETS. 
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WE'RE BASICALLY GOING TO RAISE PRICES TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AT THE WHOLESALE COSTS THAT WE'VE AGREED TO. 
          >> ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS, THE MOST IMMEDIATE MONEY BACK SITUATION WOULD BE IF I PUT IN TEN RAIN BARRELS AND THEN I LOWERED MY UTILIZATION, I'LL SEE A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF EVERYBODY DID THAT, THEN WE WOULDN'T BE CONSUMING ENOUGH WATER AND ALL OF OUR RATES WOULD GO UP AND IT WOULD BE MORE EXPENSIVE AGAIN. 
          >> YES. 
          >> BUT IT WOULD STILL BE GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. 
          >> YES. 
          >> THE BALANCE. 
          >> IT'S A BALANCE. 
          >> WE HAVE TWO DIFFERENT STRATEGIES HERE. 
          WE HAVE ONE WHERE WE HAVE REUSE SYSTEMS ARE REQUIRED, AND WE HAVE ANOTHER WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO INCENTIVIZE. 
          WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THIS CURRENTLY, LEXIN, WE'RE NOT REQUIRING ANYONE TO PUT. 
          FROM A REBATE STANDPOINT, THE BENEFIT THE REASON WHY I GUESS AUSTIN AND DALLAS ARE OFFERING THIS IS BECAUSE THEY WANT PEOPLE TO CONSUME LESS DRINKING WATER FOR IRRIGATION, THAT'S THE OBJECTIVE. 
          THEY'RE SAYING, WE'RE GOING TO PAY YOU A DOLLAR FOR 300 GALLONS TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE THAT, SPECIFICALLY. 
          >> YES. I MEAN, ULTIMATELY, THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WATER BEING USED DRINKING WATER BEING [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE STORM WATER. 
          I MEAN, THE DROP IN THE BUCKET IN TERMS OF LAKE LOUISVILLE AND GRAPEVINE. 
          WE'RE NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT SYSTEM, PARTICULARLY, WE'RE JUST WORRIED ABOUT THE DRINKING WATER. 
          >> BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE MEANS TO CARRY STORM WATER AWAY, SO THERE IS THE DRAIN PART NO INTENDED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE. 
          >> WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SAVE KEEP WATER OUT OF THE STORMWATER SYSTEM. 
          >> NO. 
          >> AS MUCH AS WE'RE TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO STOP USING DRINKING WATER FOR IRRIGATION. 
          >> I'D SAY WITH THE CAVEAT IS THAT AS DEVELOPMENT GOES AND MORE IMPERIAL SURFACE GOES ON THE GROUND DURING THE HEAVY STORMS, FLOODING GETS WORSE, WE DON'T WANT THAT. 
          >> YEAH, I'M VERY INTERESTED IN, SO I'LL JUST CHANGE TOPICS REAL QUICK. 
          THE PERMEABLE PAVEMENT BECAUSE I FEEL IF WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW THESE PARKING LOTS TO EXPAND, AND I LOOK AT THE PARKING LOT, SOME OF THE ONES ON 407 AND 2499, AND IT SEEMS EVEN ON BLACK FRIDAY, THEY'RE NOT FULL. 
          IT'S REALLY EXORBITANT AMOUNTS OF PARKING, BUT IF THEY USE PERMEABLE PARKING OR PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, THEN IT DOESN'T SEEM IT IS AS MUCH CONCERN TO ME. 
          BUT WHAT I HEARD, I THINK LEXIN MAY HAVE MENTIONED THIS IS THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY SATISFIED THAT ANY OF THOSE PRODUCTS ARE UP TO, THEY'RE NOT DURABLE ENOUGH. 
          >> I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THE INTEGRITY OF A PERMEABLE PAVEMENT VERSUS WHAT WE'RE USING CURRENTLY. 
          >> I WOULD SAY PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, THERE'S SOME GOOD SYSTEMS OUT THERE AND THEN THERE ARE SOME SYSTEMS THAT AREN'T GOOD. 
          PART OF IT IS THEY'RE PERMEABLE, BUT THEY CAN STILL GET CLOGGED. 
          OVER TIME, HOW PERMEABLE DO THEY STAY AND SOME OF THE PERMEABLE PAVERS ARE REALLY JUST PAVERS WITH BIG HOLES IN THE MIDDLE. 
          I THINK IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN TO, [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> WHAT'S THAT PLACE. 
          >> YES. I CAN'T THINK OF NAME OF THE BURGER PLACE. 
          THEY HAVE SOME OF THOSE PARKING SPACES. 
          I THINK WE HAD SOME PERMEABLE PAVING OVER THERE IN HOME DEPOT. 
          WHENEVER WE WERE LOOKING AT THAT, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY'VE REPLACED IT WITH REGULAR CONCRETE, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF ISSUE. 
          >> I [OVERLAPPING] DOWN. 
          >> I NEED YOUR OPINION OF LIKE THOSE MESH SYSTEMS WHERE THEY'RE LIKE AN ACCORDION AND THEY FILL IT UP WITH SOME PERMEABLE SUBSTRATE LIKE GRAVEL OR SOMETHING. 
          ARE THOSE NOT REALLY COMMERCIALLY VIABLE? 
          >> I WONDER HOW MUCH BENEFIT YOU GET FROM PERMEABLE PAVEMENT TO BEGIN WITH. 
          >> STILL JUST RUNS OFF INTO THE STORM WATER SYSTEM? 
          >> IT DOES REDUCE IT, BUT IT DOESN'T CAPTURE EVERYTHING, OBVIOUSLY. 
          >> I GUESS MORE WORK TO DO THERE TO SEE IF THERE'S REALLY A SOLUTION THAT WE COULD TRY TO REQUIRE. 
          BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE INCENTIVE PROGRAM. 
          WHAT WE'RE SAYING HERE IS WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A REBATE TO TRY TO REDUCE YOUR CONSUMPTION OF DRINKING WATER. 
          WHERE IS THIS MONEY COMING FROM? IS IT IMPACT FEES? IS THAT ONE WAY? IS IT A 380, IS IT LIKE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE, OR IS THIS JUST A CHECK WHERE WE'RE CUTTING YOU FROM THE GENERAL FUND? 
          >> WE'RE JUST DECREASING. IF YOU DO THIS WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS, THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING TO DECREASE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU RECEIVE FROM NEW DEVELOPMENT TO THE GENERAL FUND. 
          WHATEVER YOU TAKE IN, YOU'RE GOING TO REBATE SOME OF BACK IF THEY DO SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          >> IS IT IMPACT FEE? 
          >> WE CAN'T TAKE FROM IMPACT FEES, I BELIEVE, AND ACTUALLY PAY FOR THE STUFF. 
          I'D HAVE TO JUST BE STRAIGHT, I'D BASICALLY BE REBATES PART OF OUR PERMITTING FEES, THAT'S JUST NET AGAINST THAT. 
          >> THERE ARE EXAMPLES OF SALES TAX REBATES FOR ESPECIALLY LARGER SYSTEMS IN, I THINK, IN AUSTIN, MAYBE IS ONE OF THE EXAMPLES I'M THINKING OF WHERE IF YOU PUT IN A LARGE RAIN CAPTURE SYSTEM, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE TO SUBMIT THAT FOR SALES TAX REBATE. 
          WHETHER THAT REQUIRES A 380, I DON'T KNOW OFF TOP OF MY HEAD, WE'D HAVE TO DIG A LITTLE BIT DEEPER ON THAT ONE. 
          >> ARE NEW PROJECTS IN AUSTIN AND DALLAS TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS? 
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DO WE KNOW? IS IT POPULAR? 
          >> DALLAS HAS THE $100,000 REBATE. 
          >> IT WAS A $0.96 FOR EVERY THOUSAND GALLONS. 
          >> YEAH. I CAN'T SPEAK TO DALLAS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO ACTUALLY SPEAK TO ANYONE THERE. 
          FROM THE CITY OF AUSTIN, WHEN I SPOKE TO THEM, THEY ARE STILL UTILIZING THE BUCKS FOR BUSINESS PROGRAM IN ADDITION TO THE NEW ORDINANCE, BECAUSE THAT WAS MY QUESTION INITIALLY WAS HOW MUCH ARE PEOPLE UTILIZING THAT? IS THAT STILL A THING WITH A NEW ORDINANCE, AND IT STILL IS, THEY STILL SEE VALUE IN INCENTIVIZING IT. 
          >> BUT THAT STILL COMES OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. 
          >> I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY FUND THEIR PROGRAM. 
          THE ONE SPECIFIC PROGRAM THAT I DID SPEAK TO ABOUT FUNDING WAS LOUISVILLE'S RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM, AND THEY BASICALLY PROVIDE A CREDIT TO THE RESIDENT FOR CERTAIN LANDSCAPE INSTALL. 
          >> HOW MUCH OF A CREDIT DO THEY DO? DO YOU KNOW? 
          >> WELL, NOW THAT I HAVE MY NOTES, MAYBE I CAN. 
          LET'S SEE. ACTUALLY, I HAVE A REFERENCE HERE, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS CORINTH ACTUALLY. 
          I MENTIONED CORINTH DOES THE RESIDENTIAL LANDSCAPE CONVERSION PROGRAM. 
          FOR THEM, IT'S UP TO $500/50% OF THE INSTALL COST, BUT AGAIN, THEY HAVE AN IMPROVED LIST AND A PROGRAM WHERE THEY REVIEW EVERYTHING IN ADVANCE. 
          >> JOHN, THAT WOULD STILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND FOR US. 
          >> HOW MUCH ARE WE SPENDING ON REUSE EXACTLY TO THE CENT? 
          >> I BELIEVE THE FIRST PHASE IS 16 MILLION BETWEEN THE PIPELINE AND THE PUMP STATION. 
          I WILL SAY ALSO WHENEVER YOU'RE DOING THOSE FIRST PHASES, YOU'RE SEEING THAT HIGHER COST BECAUSE YOU'RE BUILDING THE PUMP STATION THAT WASN'T THERE BEFORE, YOU'RE PUTTING IN THE LARGE PIPE THAT'S GOING TO ESSENTIALLY BE THE FEEDER TO THE ENTIRE SYSTEM AND FUTURE PHASES. 
          >> WHEN WE GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE'RE SAVING SIX MILLION GALLONS A YEAR, HOW MUCH WILL WE HAVE INVESTED BY THAT TIME? 
          >> I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK, BUT BY THE TIME WE ALSO GET TO PHASE 5, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE GOING TO DO BECAUSE THAT IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY WERE JUST FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          >> IT WAS SIX MILLION A DAY IN THE SUMMER, WASN'T IT? 
          >> YES. 
          >> A DAY. 
          >> RIGHT, THE INVESTMENT IS SUBSTANTIAL. 
          I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY TO TRY TO SAVE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF WATER, BUT IT SEEMS IN THIS CASE, WE CAN SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO DO THE SAME THING. 
          IT SEEMS IT'S PROBABLY WORTH TRYING TO OFFER SOME PROGRAM AND SEE IF ANYBODY'S INTERESTED IN TAKING THAT. 
          >> I'D ALSO LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE'S ANY GRANT MONEY AVAILABLE. 
          THAT WAY WE DON'T HAVE TO DIP INTO THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE EVERY TIME WE DO THAT, IT TAKES AWAY FROM SOMETHING ELSE, SO WE HAVE TO REPRIORITIZE EVERYTHING. 
          IF WE COULD INVESTIGATE IF THERE'S ANY FEDERAL OR STATE GRANT MONEY THAT MIGHT FUND, THAT WAY WE COULD FUND UP TO THE GRANT MONEY THAT WE OBTAIN. 
          >> WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS I WILL SAY BACK TO THE STORMWATER SIDE IS CURRENTLY THE STATE HAS ALLOCATED A LOT OF MONEY TOWARD FLOOD PROTECTION, WHICH TYPICALLY GETS WRAPPED UP INTO YOUR STORMWATER, AND WE'VE IDENTIFIED, I THINK, 18 PROJECTS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED AND ARE IN THE STATE FLOOD PLAN. 
          ONCE THAT GETS TO THE NEXT PHASE WHERE THEY START ALLOCATING MONEY, THEN WE WOULD BE FIRST AND HIGHER RANKED ON THAT. 
          AS FAR AS FEDERAL PROGRAMS, THOUGH, GO, THEY USUALLY HAVE A SOCIOECONOMIC TIE, AND WE FOUND THAT FLOWERMOUND IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR A LOT OF THOSE RIGHT OFF THE BAT. 
          >> FAIR ENOUGH. 
          >> I DON'T THINK IT HAS TO BE A BLANK CHECK. 
          IT COULD BE UP TO 250,000 A YEAR [OVERLAPPING] AND I'D BE FINE IF WE TRY THAT AND SEE WHO TAKES. 
          >> PER HOUSEHOLD ONCE EVERY TEN YEARS OR SO. 
          >> FOR THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN IS GOING TO DEVELOP AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF NEW THINGS HAPPENING AND THIS COULD BE AN OPPORTUNITY. 
          >> ALSO, WHAT ABOUT THAT 17% DISCOUNT IF YOU HAVE A DETENTION POND ON YOUR HOA? WE MIGHT ACTUALLY NEED TO MODEL HOW MANY PEOPLE MIGHT BE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT TO FIND OUT HOW WE'D FUND THAT BECAUSE THAT IS AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. 
          >> I DID FIND LOUISVILLE'S WATER CONSERVATION CREDIT PROGRAM. 
          IF YOU'LL ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE DETAILS JUST BRIEFLY, THE MAXIMUM CREDIT ALLOWABLE IS UP TO $375 PER YEAR OF CERTAIN QUALIFIED WATER CONSERVATION HOME IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE LOW FLOW TOILET CREDITS UP TO $50 PER TOILET, LIMIT THREE PER LIFETIME OF THE RESIDENTS. 
          [00:45:01]
YOU GO TO HAVE THE SALES RECEIPT, BUT IT'S ONLY AVAILABLE TO RESIDENCES THAT ARE BUILT PRIOR TO 2005. 
          I'M ASSUMING THAT BECAUSE AS TECHNOLOGY HAS IMPROVED OVER THE YEARS, SO AS TOILETS. 
          THEN THEY GOT LOW FLOW SHOWER HEAD, HIGH DENSITY WASHING MACHINE CREDITS, RAIN BARREL CREDITS, RAIN FREEZER MOISTURE SENSOR CREDITS, IRRIGATION SYSTEM INSPECTION CARDS, AND SMART IRRIGATION CONTROLLER CREDITS. 
          >> DO YOU LIKE THAT? 
          >> YEAH, I LIKE THAT. 
          >> THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN DO SOME CREDIT PROGRAM FOR THAT. 
          >> I'D BE OPEN TO HAVING IT MODELED. 
          I DON'T WANT TO JUST, LIKE YOU SAY, WRITE A BLANK CHECK. 
          I WANT TO SEE THE IMPACT IT MAKES ON THE REST OF THE BUDGET BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION. 
          >> THEN GETTING THAT COMMUNICATION OUT THERE TO FOLKS ON HOW WE TALKED ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION, GETTING THE COMMUNICATION DEPARTMENT TO CONVEY THIS TO THE PUBLIC. 
          >> IT COULD EVEN BE MORE TARGETED BECAUSE WE KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE DETENTION FUNDS, A LETTER TO THE HOA PRESIDENT MIGHT SUFFICE. 
          >> WE CAN DIG INTO THIS, WHILE WE START LOOKING INTO THIS. 
          IT WILL TAKE US SOME TIME TO GET THAT AND WORK WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, BUT WE CAN LOOK INTO IT. 
          >> IT WOULD BE NICE TOO IF OUR ENVIRONMENTAL EDUCATION PROGRAM COULD MAYBE PARTNER WITH SOME OF OUR LOCAL STORES LIKE HOME DEPOT TO SEE IF THEY CAN PROVIDE DISCOUNTS FOR THE RAIN BARRELS. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THEY DO THAT ALREADY. 
          >> THAT'S AN OPTION. 
          ALSO WITH THE CITIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY DOING RAIN BARREL SALES LIKE FRISCO. 
          WHEN KEY FAR MONT BEAUTIFUL HAS DONE RAIN BARREL SALES IN THE PAST, WHICH I DON'T THINK THEY'VE DONE IN THE LAST PROBABLY SIX YEARS. 
          THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THOSE AT A REDUCED COST SO THAT THEY COULD OFFER THEM THEN TO RESIDENTS AT A REDUCED COST. 
          THAT'S ALSO AN OPTION AS WELL. 
          >> ANYTHING ELSE? WE ARE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2, THE SUBSTANCE ABUSE MENTAL HEALTH TASK FORCE. 
          WE DID HAVE A MEETING IN SEPTEMBER AND SOME RESIDENTS CAME FORWARD ABOUT THE USE OF OPIOIDS. 
          THEN ON OCTOBER 17TH, WE HAD A WORK SESSION ON THAT. 
          THEN AS A SIDE NOTE, JAMES CHILDERS AND I MET WITH SOME RESIDENTS WITH OUR CHIEF OF POLICE AND CHIEF OF FIRE DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS ON THEIR INTERESTS AS WELL IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          JAMES, YOU'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THAT ACTION? 
          >> YES, MA'AM. YOU ACTUALLY KNOCKED OUT MAYBE THE FIRST COUPLE OF SLIDES OF MY PRESENTATION. 
          ADAM, IF YOU CAN SWITCH TO MY SCREEN, PLEASE. 
          I'M GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION FROM MY SEAT HERE. LET'S SEE. THERE WE GO. 
          AS THE MAYOR HAS POINTED OUT, AND I'LL GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE BACKGROUND FOR THOSE WHO ARE UNINITIATED AND HAVEN'T BEEN UP TO SPEED ON THIS CONVERSATION WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR THE BETTER PART OF TWO MONTHS. 
          STAR AS THE MAYOR REFERENCED AS, WE HAD A COUPLE OF FAMILIES COME AND SHARE THEIR PERSONAL ACCOUNTS OF DEALING WITH LOSS TIED TO OVERDOSES, AS A BODY IMMEDIATELY DIRECTED US TO PUT TOGETHER THAT PRESENTATION ON THE 17TH. 
          THAT PRESENTATION ON 17TH OCTOBER WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON WHAT WE DO. 
          FROM A POLICE AND FIRE PERSPECTIVE. 
          FROM POLICE PERSPECTIVE, WE'RE HERE TO ARREST THE FOLKS, AND SEIZING THOSE DRUGS AND TRYING TO GET THOSE OFF THE STREET AND AS WELL AS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S CONCERN IS IT'S JUST RESPONDING TO FOLKS THAT ARE EXPERIENCING OVERDOSE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          WE ALSO TALKED AND ONE OF THE TOPICS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A BIT WAS OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS THAT THE TOWN AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES RECEIVE FROM PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES AND OTHER PROVIDERS AND PHARMACIES AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WE PROVIDE THAT. 
          WE ALSO TOUCHED A LITTLE BIT ON OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND THEIR WORK THAT'S INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          AS THE MAYOR REFERENCED, WE DID HAVE A MEETING ON OCTOBER 31ST WITH SEVERAL STAKEHOLDERS, MANY OF WHICH ARE WITH US HERE THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THOSE NEXT STEPS ENTAIL, AND I'M APPRECIATIVE OF THAT GROUP. 
          I THINK WE HAD A PRODUCTIVE CONVERSATION. 
          WE SHARED A LOT OF GOOD INFORMATION, WHICH LEADS TO WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARE WITH THAT GROUP IS THAT MY BELIEF THAT OUR NEXT STEP IN THIS PROCESS IS TO PUT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE. 
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I WANT TO LAY THAT OUT IN FRONT OF YOU, JUST GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE PLAYERS THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO THE TABLE AND THEN GET ANY FEEDBACK QUESTIONS DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE FOR US AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I SHARED WITH THE GROUP WHEN WE HAD OUR MEETING ON 31ST OCTOBER WAS JUST A PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE I'VE HAD WITH THE USE OF A TASK FORCE. 
          IT WASN'T ROOTED IN THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE OF MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE, BUT IT'S SOMEWHAT ADJACENT DURING MY TIME IN ABILENE, THAT BEING A CENTRAL CITY IN A REGION, HAD A HOMELESS CHALLENGES, AND THE POLICE CHIEF AT THE TIME PUT TOGETHER A TASK FORCE ON HOMELESSNESS. 
          THE BIGGEST VALUE I GOT FROM THAT IS THAT HOW EVERYBODY ACROSS THE ROOM WAS EDUCATED, AND WE STARTED TO LEARN WHERE THE GAPS WERE. 
          I THINK THAT'S AN APPROACH THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE MOVING FORWARD AND THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT A TASK FORCE IS A APPROPRIATE WAY TO PROCEED. 
          BEFORE I GET TOO FAR, I DO WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT AND THANKS TO KAYLA WARE OUR TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE. 
          SHE'S HELPED ME OUT WITH THIS PULLING THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER AND MAKING A LOT OF CONTACTS IN HERE, SO A LOT OF WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS A LOT OF HER HARD WORK. 
          I DID A LITTLE BIT, BUT KAYLA DID A GREAT JOB ON THIS. 
          REALLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE TASK FORCE CONCEPT, I WANTED TO FRAME, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO DO? WHAT ARE THE CHARGES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH? WE'RE GOING TO GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE TOGETHER, WHAT ARE WE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT? YOU SEE SOME OF THOSE IN BROAD TERMS IN FRONT OF YOU, AND THAT BIG PIECE IS ASSESSING THOSE COMMUNITY NEEDS. 
          FIGURE OUT WHERE THOSE GAPS ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. 
          A LOT OF TIMES, WE HAVE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS DOING THE SAME THING. 
          WE MIGHT FIND OUT THERE'S MAYBE AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S NOT DOING ENOUGH OF ANOTHER OPTION, SO THAT GAP ANALYSIS IS AWFULLY IMPORTANT. 
          ENHANCING COLLABORATION GOES PART AND PARCEL WITH THAT IN THE SENSE THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOSTERING PARTNERSHIPS THAT CAN HELP US GET FOLKS CONNECTED TO THE HELP THAT THEY NEED IN THESE PARTICULAR AREAS. 
          WHAT GOES WITH THAT IS INCREASED ACCESSIBILITY TO THE OPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS THAT THE FOLKS WILL NEED. 
          PROMOTING EDUCATION IS A BIG PIECE OF THAT, AND ULTIMATELY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM, DEVELOPING SUSTAINABLE SOLUTIONS, THAT'S THE END GAME OF WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          BY DEFINITION, A TASK FORCE IS A TEMPORARY OR TEMPORAL SOLUTION. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE TASK FORCES IN PERPETUITY, BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO ACCOMPLISH WITH ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU IS A SUSTAINABLE SOLUTION THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTFUL MOVING FORWARD. 
          OUR MEETING IN THE 31ST BOARD IS THAT IT GOT A LOT OF GREAT SUGGESTIONS ON OTHER GROUPS THAT WE NEED TO TOUCH AND BRING INTO THE FOLD AND GOOD SUGGESTIONS OF GROUPS THAT DON'T COME TOP OF MIND OF WHO NEED TO BE A PART OF SOLUTION, SO IT WAS GOOD COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION. 
          THE THING THAT I'M REALLY ENCOURAGED ABOUT, AND I WANT TO SAY PUBLICLY IS THAT THE GROUPS THAT I'M ABOUT TO SHARE WITH YOU WAS REALLY COOL AND KAYLA CAN ATTEST TO THIS. 
          THERE'S NO ARM TWISTING, THERE WAS NO PLEADING, THERE WAS NO BEGGING. 
          ONCE WE MADE CONNECTIONS, THEY WERE LIKE WE'RE IN. 
          I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SIGN THAT YOU HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT ARE READY TO PARTICIPATE AND BE ENGAGED IN THIS PROCESS. 
          JUST BROADLY, I WANTED TO BREAK THEM DOWN IN THESE VARIOUS CATEGORIES, I'M ABOUT TO WALK YOU THROUGH. 
          FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU SEE THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN COMMITMENTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS TASK FORCE, STARTING WITH MENTAL HEALTH MENTAL RETARDATION OR MHMR CENTER. 
          I ALWAYS MESS THIS UP. I ALWAYS WANT TO PUT A RNG. 
          THIS IS A GROUP THAT SPECIALIZE AND EDUCATING FOLKS ON HOW TO RESPOND TO SOMEBODY WHO IS SUFFERING FROM OPIOID OVERDOSE. 
          RECOVERY RESOURCE COUNSEL. 
          THIS IS ONE THAT CATHY PROVIDED TO US AND OBVIOUSLY WENT INTO FIGHT AND WE ALL KNOW CATHY WELL AND HER GROUP. 
          AGAIN, ONE THING I WANT TO STRESS AND I'M GOING TO JUMP AHEAD A COUPLE OF SLIDES. 
          THIS IS NOT AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST. 
          THIS ISN'T IT. THIS IS THE BEGINNING. 
          OBVIOUSLY, AS WE CONTINUE TO PROGRESS AND WE LEARN MORE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS, WE LIKE TO CONTINUE TO GROW THESE CATEGORIES. 
          MOVING OVER TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT SIDE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS THERE AND YOU KNOW THE DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED AT THIS POINT, BUT WE'VE ALSO ENGAGE OUR MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE, ALISSA JANKE, BEING INVOLVED. 
          OBVIOUSLY ON THE MUNICIPAL COURT LEVEL, THEY DEAL WITH CLASS MISDEMEANORS. 
          NOT A LOT OF THIS ADJACENT COMPONENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE IS NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO HIT OUR MUNICIPAL COURT, BUT JUDGE JANKE IS ALSO A MAGISTRATE FOR THE COUNTY. 
          IN THAT SPACE, SHE SEES A LOT OF THIS AND IS VERY INTERESTED IN DOING HER PART TO SEE WHAT SHE CAN LEND TO THE CONVERSATION. 
          I ALSO WENT AT A LOCAL GOVERNMENT CATEGORY. 
          WE'RE ALSO PUTTING DENTON COUNTY ON THERE TOO. 
          I WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO JODI GONZALEZ, WHO'S THE COUNTY ADMINISTRATOR, HE WAS VERY HELPFUL TO US. 
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THE COUNTY IS PRETTY VAST AND HAS A LOT OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT TOUCH ON THESE PARTICULAR AREA, BUT IN TALKING WITH JODY, HE GAVE US TWO DIRECT CONTACTS. 
          ONE, YOU SEE THERE IS JUDGE MCCARY IS OUR JUVENILE JUDGE FOR OUR JUVENILE COURTS, AND I'LL JUST SHARE PERSONALLY THROUGH LEADERSHIP FLOWER MOUND, I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT THERE AND SEE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT THEY DO AND IT'S A LOT. 
          JUDGE MCCARY, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO HER. 
          WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO HER, SHE JUMPED ALL OVER IT AND SAYS, I WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE DEALING WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AS WELL AS SUBSTANCE ABUSE ARE GOING THROUGH HER SYSTEM AND THROUGH HER COURT, AND SO SHE HAS A VERY GOOD PERSPECTIVE THAT SHE CAN LEND TO IT. 
          THEN ALSO WITH THE DENTON COUNTY PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MATT RICHARDSON IS OUR HEALTH DIRECTOR FOR THE COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO LEARNED THAT EVEN THOUGH MENTAL HEALTH IS NOT A PRINCIPAL CHARGE OF A PUBLIC HEALTH DISTRICT, THE LEADERSHIP IN OUR COUNTY RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND THEY'VE ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY WHO FOCUSES ON THIS AREA, A LADY NAMED ALEX ROSS AND WE'VE ENGAGED HER AND SHE'S GOING TO BE A PART OF THIS MOVING FORWARD, JUST SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO JUST FROM A BROAD MENTAL HEALTH STANDPOINT FOR DENTON COUNTY. 
          ONE OF THE GREAT SUGGESTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR MEETING ON OCTOBER 31ST WAS, HOW DO WE GET OUR FAITH ORGANIZATIONS INVOLVED? SO FAR, WE'VE TALKED TO TWO AND IF YOU READ UP THERE, VALLEY CREEK AND THE VILLAGE CHURCH ARE TWO OF OUR LARGER CONGREGATIONS HERE IN FLOWER MOUND AND BOTH OF THOSE CHURCHES IMMEDIATELY SAID, "HEY, WE'RE IN." I'LL SAY FOR VALLEY CREEK, WHAT THEY MENTIONED IS IS THAT THEY DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE A FORMAL STRUCTURED PROGRAM, BUT THEY DO HAVE A LOT OF THEIR MEMBERS WHO SPECIALIZE IN THESE AREA THAT ARE MORE THAN WILLING TO VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME AND EXPERTISE TO THIS EFFORT. 
          I BELIEVE THE VILLAGE CHURCH HAS MORE OF A STRUCTURED PROGRAM IN PLACE THAT THEY CAN LEND TO THE FOLD. 
          AS I MENTIONED, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING. 
          I MEAN OBVIOUSLY, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS CONTINUE TO REACH OUT TO VARIOUS PLACES OF WORSHIP. 
          WE DON'T WANT THIS TO BE EXCLUSIVELY A CHRISTIAN FAITH BASE. 
          WE'RE GOING TO REACH OUT TO SOME OF OUR OTHER FAITH BASES TO SEE IF THEY ALSO HAVE RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN CONTRIBUTE TO THIS EFFORT. 
          OUR PRESENTATION BACK A MONTH OR SO AGO, WE'D ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS A LITTLE BIT, AND THEY'LL BE A GROUP THAT CONTINUE TO BE AT THE TABLE THROUGH THEIR COUNSELING PROGRAMS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. 
          THEN OBVIOUSLY, YOU HAVE COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS AND YOU'VE MET MANY OF THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS THAT WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE A SEAT AT THE TABLE AND ENGAGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          ALSO, THAT'S THE THING I WANT TO STRESS, THIS IS NOT THE EXHAUSTIVE LIST. 
          THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE LEARN MORE AND WE ENGAGE MORE, THERE MAY BE MORE GROUPS AND ENTITIES THAT CAN JOIN THE TABLE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. 
          TALKING ABOUT OUR NEXT STEPS, OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO KICK THIS THING OFF AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, ONCE YOU HIT THE HOLIDAY SEASON, SCHEDULES GET TIGHT, WE'RE RUNNING INTO THANKSGIVING RUN INTO THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY, SO WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO LOOK TO KICK THIS OFF AFTER THE BEGINNING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR. 
          WE'RE TARGETING MID LATE JANUARY OF 2025 TO KICK OFF THAT INITIAL MEETING. 
          I WANT TO USE THAT MEANING, ONE JUST FOR EVERYBODY TO GET FAMILIAR AND GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER, SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE DOING TOWARDS THE CHARGE, BUT ULTIMATELY THERE JUST START HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE FREQUENCY AND INTENSITY OF MEETINGS. 
          WITH THIS EFFORT, YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT MIGHT NECESSARILY GO. 
          YOU CAN DO SUBGROUPS. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS WE WANT TO GO, BUT THE KEY IS JUST GETTING IT GOING. 
          THAT'S A GENERAL TIME FRAME THAT WE WANT TO FOCUS ON AND KICKING THIS EFFORT OFF. 
          ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON OCTOBER 31ST MEETING IS JUST WHAT WE CAN DO AS FAR AS THE TOWN IS CONCERNED WITH OUR RESOURCES, IS TO CONTINUE TO PUT INFORMATION AND RESOURCES OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC. 
          I HAD A CONVERSATION ALREADY WITH OUR COMMUNICATION DIRECTOR, MELISSA DEMANE. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZE IS THAT AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS, WE'VE LOCATED A PLACE FOR THIS TO LIVE ON OUR WEBSITE FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED. 
          ALREADY ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE UNDER OUR LIVING SECTION, WE ALREADY HAVE A SOCIAL SERVICES TAB. 
          WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO CREATE A DEDICATED SPACE FOR THIS EFFORT THERE THOSE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE INTERESTED ABOUT THE RESOURCES, THE GROUPS THAT ARE INVOLVED, THINGS THEY CAN DO TO SEEK HELP. 
          WE WANT TO TRY TO CREATE THAT REPOSITORY FOR THAT INFORMATION ON OUR WEB PAGE. 
          OBVIOUSLY, AS WE PROCEED, WE'LL KEEP THIS BODY ENGAGED AND LET YOU KNOW WHERE WE ARE IN THIS PROCESS. 
          AGAIN, I THINK THAT THE REALITY AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO CONVEY TO EVERYONE IS THAT OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENTS WORK VERY HARD, BUT WE'RE JUST ONE COMPONENT OF HOW YOU ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. 
          IT'S REALLY A VILLAGE ISSUE OR COMMUNITY ISSUE. 
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WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS TRY TO GET AS MANY STAKEHOLDERS TO THE TABLE AS POSSIBLE MOVING FORWARD. 
          I JUST WANTED TO DO THIS EVENING TO PROVIDE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'RE PULLING TOGETHER AND WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH. 
          AT THIS TIME, I'LL OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY QUESTIONS, IDEAS, FEEDBACK THAT YOU HAVE FOR US, WHAT I SHARED OR QUITE FRANKLY, ANYTHING THAT YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT YOU THINK YOU SHOULD SEE. 
          WITH THAT, I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO YOU. 
          >> I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA, JAMES. 
          I LOOK FORWARD TO SEE HOW THIS PROGRESSES. 
          THE ONE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS, I THINK WE WANT TO SOLVE I DON'T THINK WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM, BUT WE WANT TO MITIGATE THE IMPACTS OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OF THE OPIOID CRISIS ON OUR COMMUNITY. 
          BUT DO YOU ENVISION THE TASK FORCE HAVING SOME TANGIBLE GOALS AS TO WE'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH A, B AND C AND WILL THEY LAY THAT OUT AS THEY GET STARTED? IS ONE OF THOSE GOALS GOING TO BE, HOW DO WE SPEND THOSE FEDERAL DOLLARS THAT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THOSE SETTLEMENTS. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THAT'S JUST THE KEY. 
          WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS GET PRESUMPTUOUS AND JUST START SETTING A BUNCH OF STUFF UP BEFORE WE MEET FOR THE FIRST TIME. 
          I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE RALLY THAT MAIN CHARGE AFTER YOU GO TO THAT INITIAL MEETING TO START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS BECAUSE AGAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE MAINTAINED, I'LL JUST SHARE THIS FOR THE PUBLIC IS THAT THESE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT $81,000 IN OPIOID SETTLEMENT DOLLARS, AND QUITE FRANKLY, THERE IS A NEW SETTLEMENT THAT'S MOVING FORWARD THAT WILL BE ON YOUR AGENDA, PROBABLY ON 2ND OF DECEMBER, WHERE WE'LL PROBABLY GET ANOTHER 16,000 MORE FROM ANOTHER SETTLEMENT. 
          AS THOSE DOLLARS ACCUMULATE, RATHER THAN ME GOING TO CHIEF COULON AND SAY, DO YOU NEED BULLETS OR VEST OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK THIS IS THE PROPER CONDUIT TO DETERMINE IF THOSE FUNDS COULD BE LEVERAGED FOR SOMETHING THAT THE OTHER ENTITY CAN MOVE FORWARD. 
          THAT'S VERY MUCH A GOAL AND A CHARGE THAT WE WANT TO GET OUT OF THIS TASK FORCES TO FIGURE OUT IF WE HAVE THOSE DOLLARS AVAILABLE FROM THOSE SETTLEMENTS, HOW CAN WE LEVERAGE THEM? QUITE FRANKLY, IF IT'S A BROADER CONVERSATION ABOUT OTHER FUNDING SOURCES THAT COULD BE USED THAT CAN MAKE AN IMPACT, HAVING THAT CONVERSATION WITH YOU ALL AS A BODY. 
          >> THAT'S GREAT. THEN JUST A STRUCTURAL QUESTION, WHO WILL LEAD THE TASK FORCE? I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF PARTICIPANTS, BUT WHO'S GOING TO BE THE BIG TOE, THE ONE THAT'S IN CHARGE. 
          >> I GUESS WE'LL DETERMINE THAT. 
          BUT I SEE IT MORE AS A FACILITATION, MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE ALL THESE ENTITIES ARE ALREADY DOING WHAT THEY'RE DOING REGARDLESS. 
          BUT I THINK AS YOU START IDENTIFYING COLLABORATIVE OPPORTUNITIES, IT IS IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHO TAKES THE LEAD ON THAT. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT IT BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW THE SPHERE IN THE SPACE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE LEAD ON A PARTICULAR ISSUE, BUT THERE MIGHT BE ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S BETTER SUITED TO TAKE THE LEAD AND WE FOLLOW OR WE SUPPORT MOVING FORWARD. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE THINGS ORGANICALLY THAT WILL MANIFEST AS WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS TO FIGURE OUT THAT OVERALL, WE JUST WANT TO BE THE CONDUIT TO BRING EVERYBODY TOGETHER. 
          BUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE FIND SPECIFIC APPROACHES THAT WE CAN TAKE, IT MIGHT BE ANOTHER ENTITY THAT'S BETTER SUITED TO BE IN THAT FRONT POSITION. 
          HOPEFULLY, THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME INTERESTS. 
          WE HAVE SOME ACTIONS. I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME MOMENTUM. 
          I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ONCE WE HAVE THESE KICKOFFS THAT THAT MOMENTUM CONTINUES AND KEEPS DRIVING FORWARD. 
          THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. THANK YOU. 
          >> I WONDER TOO. I KNOW THE TASK FORCE. 
          I LOVE THAT IDEA, BUT ALSO IF ONE OF THE RESIDENTS DID MENTION A HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE OR LIKE A BOARD. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU AS A COUNCIL ARE INTERESTED IN IN ADDING ANOTHER. 
          >> I'M INTERESTED IN ADDING THAT. 
          I WILL SAY I'M SITTING BACK TRYING TO TAKE IT ALL IN. 
          >> IT IS LONG. 
          >> THE DEPTH AND THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS TOPIC DEMANDS GREAT DISCERNMENT. 
          I AM FEELING A LITTLE BIT RUSHED AND I KNOW WE VERY MUCH WANT TO COME UP WITH ALL THE SOLUTIONS. 
          BUT IF IT WERE THAT EASY, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BY NOW. 
          I'M FEELING A LITTLE RUSHED HONESTLY, AND WHEN WE SAY TASK FORCE, YOU DID MENTION IT WOULDN'T BE EXISTING IN PERPETUITY. 
          TO ME, IT SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A CONCENTRATED ROUNDTABLE EFFORT RATHER THAN A TASK FORCE. 
          I DO NOT WANT TO HAVE A BORDER COMMISSION. 
          I THINK THAT'S WAY OVER OUR SKIS. 
          OUR COUNTY DOESN'T EVEN PROVIDE MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND TO ME TO DO IT RIGHT, THAT WOULD DEMAND A WHOLE HOST OF PAID PROFESSIONALS WHO WOULD BE AT THE READY, AND I THINK THAT'S WELL BEYOND MUNICIPAL SERVICES. 
          I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT WHO WOULD BE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE. 
          WOULD YOU ENVISION IT WOULD BE MORE OF A ROUNDTABLE CONSORTIUM RATHER THAN A BODY THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO MEET? I'M INTERESTED PERHAPS IN HAVING INPUT ON HOW TO USE THE OPIOID FUNDS AND THE NEW FUNDS THAT ARE COMING FORWARD. 
          BUT AGAIN, I THINK I WOULD RATHER DEFER TO 
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OUR POLICE AND FIRE DEPARTMENT CHIEFS JUST TO GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I FEEL THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLID RECOMMENDATIONS. 
          I JUST FEEL LIKE WE'RE GOING A LITTLE TOO FAST AND WE ALL REALLY WANT TO SOLVE A PROBLEM? IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THAT EASY. 
          I NEED A LOT MORE DEFINITION AND EXPECTATIONS. 
          >> SURE. I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND I THINK THAT IT'S A LITTLE BIT SEMANTICS, TASK FORCE, ROUND TABLE. 
          THE NOMENCLATURE OF WHAT IT IS ISN'T IMPORTANT TO ME. 
          >> WELL, I THOUGHT OF IT BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD THE HISTORICAL COMMISSION, THEY WERE A TASK FORCE FIRST. 
          WE PUT GUARDRAILS AROUND THAT AND WE HAD SPECIFIC EXPECTATIONS FOR THEM. 
          I DON'T WANT TO CONFUSE THE VOCABULARY GOING FORWARD WITH WHAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST. 
          >> UNDERSTOOD. I THINK WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT IS IS THAT WHAT I WANT TO GET FROM THE GROUP BECAUSE AGAIN, IS THAT OUR FOCUS PRIMARILY, AND I THINK YOU PUT OUT ELOQUENTLY, THE CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IN THE SPACE THAT WE OPTIMIZE IS THAT I THINK THERE'S A RECOGNITION AMONGST US AS A STAFF IN COORDINATING OUR TWO CHIEFS IS THAT WHAT WE DO MIGHT NOT NECESSARILY BE THE MOST IMPACTFUL TO THE ISSUE, AND WE REALLY WANT TO GET THOSE FOLKS TOGETHER. 
          IN ESSENCE, WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THERE IS CRYSTALLIZE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. 
          I THINK WE'RE SAYING THE SAME THING. 
          WHAT SUCCESS LOOKS LIKE TO ME IS THAT THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING OF AGAIN, IDENTIFYING THE GAPS BECAUSE THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE THAT WE HAVE IS THAT FOR MANY OF OUR METRICS, IF YOU LOOK AT JUST THE METRICS THAT WE FIND, THE ONE THING THAT I WANT TO BE CAREFUL AND I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH OUR CHIEFS IS WE DON'T WANT TO DECLARE SUCCESS BECAUSE DATA SAYS, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THIS. 
          THE REALITY IS IS THAT THERE'S STILL FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE STILL HURTING, STILL DEALING WITH ALL THOSE THINGS. 
          WE DON'T WANT TO USE OUR SINGLE METRIC TO SUCCESS OR FAILURE. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY TRYING TO BROADEN THAT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ARE THOSE DEEPER IMPACTS? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT NOT HIT OUR RADAR SCREENS THAT ARE HITTING OTHERS. 
          ULTIMATELY, AGAIN, JUST TO MAYBE ALLEVIATE SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS. 
          WE'RE NOT TRYING TO RUSH TO ANYTHING BECAUSE THIS EFFORT MAY TAKE SIX, 12 MONTHS. I DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK REALLY WHAT THAT KEY IS IS JUST HAVING THAT ADDITIONAL MEETING AND EVERYBODY KNOWING WHAT'S OUT THERE BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO ME IS I DON'T KNOW WHAT I DON'T KNOW. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GROUP IS DOING. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GROUP KNOWS. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS GROUP IS LEVERAGING, AND I THINK THAT INITIAL PIECE STARTS PUTTING ALL THE CARDS ON THE TABLE, SO TO SPEAK TO UNDERSTAND HOW THE ENERGY TO TIME AND THE EFFORTS BEING DIRECTED. 
          >> I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW FOR ME, IT'S VERY NEBULOUS. 
          I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW, BUT I ALSO WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE STAFF COMMITMENT, HOW OFTEN WOULD THE GROUP BE MEETING? WOULD WE BE OFFERING JUST A MEETING PLACE OR WHAT KIND OF AN ACTIVE ROLE DO WE HAVE IN FACILITATING? I JUST NEED TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE RESOURCES AND THE INTENDED OUTCOME, NOT NECESSARILY IN THE DATA METRICS OF THE ACTUAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE IMPACTED, BUT MAYBE MORE PERFORMANCE METRICS, WE CONNECTED ALL THESE GROUPS. 
          WE LINKED INFORMATION ON OUR WEBSITE. 
          EVEN HAVING SAID THAT, HONESTLY, I DO THINK EDUCATION IS IMPORTANT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S THE SOLUTION. 
          >> SURE. 
          >> IT'S JUST TOO DEEP A COMPLEX PROBLEM WITH MANY FACTORS THAT CAN'T BE SOLVED JUST BY TELLING SOMEONE NOT TO DO IT. 
          >> ABSOLUTELY. THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE GET THAT FEEDBACK. 
          >> YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING FORMAL FOR SURE. 
          I AGREE, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT ALL THIS TOGETHER AND NOT HAVE SOME GOALS. 
          BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? IS IT A TASK FORCE? IS IT A COMMISSION? I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING VERY ORGANIZED FOR THIS SO THAT IT DOESN'T GET LOST. 
          OUR POLICE CHIEF, FIRE CHIEF, THEY'RE DOING AN AMAZING JOB WITH OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD STILL WORK IN COLLABORATION WITH THEM. 
          BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? FOR ME, PERSONALLY, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A COMMISSION FOR LIKE A HEALTH ADVISORY COMMISSION. I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. 
          BUT THAT IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE UP TO YOU ALL. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE ORGANIZED OR MAYBE STARTING OUT WITH A TASK FORCE LIKE JAMES PROPOSED. 
          EITHER WAY, IT NEEDS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE DOING SOME ACTION, I THINK. 
          >> WE'VE CREATED A COUPLE COMMISSIONS IN THE PAST FEW YEARS AND WE'VE HAD SOME SUCCESS AND SOME FAILURES. 
          WHEN WE FAILED, IT'S BECAUSE WE REALLY DIDN'T GIVE THE COMMISSION A CLEAR RESPONSIBILITY WITH INPUTS AND OUTPUTS. 
          THEY WERE MEETING AND THEY DIDN'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO TALK ABOUT AND WHO'S MAKING THE AGENDA AND NOTHING WAS VERY CLEAR TO THEM AND IT DIDN'T GO WELL. 
          I'M OKAY WITH THIS TASK FORCE, AS LONG AS WE PUT VERY SPECIFIC GUARD RAILS ON IT. 
          THE RESPONSIBILITY WOULD BE VERY SIMPLE. 
          THEY WOULD MEET, LIKE YOU SAID, ANALYZE THE PROBLEM AND THE OUTPUT WOULD BE WHAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE OPIOID FUNDS? 
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ONCE THEY'VE MADE THAT RECOMMENDATION, THE TASK FORCE DISSOLVES. 
          THAT WOULD BE A REALLY VALUABLE SERVICE TO US SO THAT WE CAN APPROPRIATELY STEER THOSE FUNDS BECAUSE I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT WE SHOULD SPEND THEM ON TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED AN OPEN ENDED TESTS IT MEETS OVER THE COURSE OF 12 MONTHS AND TALKS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS AND DOESN'T REALLY HAVE ANY CLEAR OUTPUT ON THE OTHER END OF IT BECAUSE IT'S JUST DOING THE SAME THING AGAIN THAT WE DID A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO THAT DIDN'T REALLY WORK OUT VERY WELL. 
          TO HAVE A PERMANENT COMMISSION, IT'S DOABLE AS LONG AS WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEIR AGENDA IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. 
          WHO'S MAKING IT? WHAT RECOMMENDATIONS ARE MAKING? I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANY IDEA AT ALL, WHAT THIS WOULD DO OTHER THAN THIS ONE THING. 
          >> I CAN'T IMAGINE I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF THAT. 
          PERMANENT COMMISSION. I THINK IT'S WAY OVER OUR SKIS. 
          THE DEPTH OF EXPERTISE NECESSARY IS WELL BEYOND WHAT I WOULD ASK A RESIDENT TO VOLUNTEER TO COME FORWARD AND THERE'S SO MUCH PERSONAL INFORMATION TO SHARE. 
          I THINK THAT ELEMENT WOULD HAVE TO BE, I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FEASIBLE AND I THINK IT GETS WELL BEYOND WHAT MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS SHOULD BE DOING FOR A PERMANENT BOARD AND COMMISSION. 
          I LIKE YOUR IDEA THOUGH ABOUT THE TASK FORCE. 
          THAT IT BE A FINITE DURATION WITH A SPECIFIC GOAL, PERHAPS STARTING WITH FIRE AND POLICE INPUT, COMING UP WITH A GOAL OF THE OPIOID FUNDS TO ASSIST THE COMMUNITY IN THEIR QUEST. 
          BECAUSE I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM WHO'S BEEN TOUCHED BY THIS TRAGIC EPIDEMIC KNOWS A LOT MORE ABOUT IT THAN I DO, CERTAINLY. 
          I DID TRY TO LEARN A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER OF NOT KNOWING. 
          I THINK IT'S JUST MAYBE ALLOWING A PLATFORM TO COORDINATE. 
          >> BUT ARE THESE FUNDS JUST FOR OPIOID USE? THIS IS ALL FOR MENTAL HEALTH, CORRECT? 
          >> JUST OPIOID USES? 
          >> JUST OPIOID USES. OKAY. 
          >> THEN JASON, I MEAN, WE HAVE LEGAL OPINIONS AND DIRECTIVES THAT LETS US KNOW HOW WE CAN UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS. 
          >> THIS IS EVERY YEAR. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO PROPOSE A TASK FORCE EVERY YEAR. 
          >> NOT NECESSARILY. 
          THE FUNDS TRICKLE IN. 
          I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          THIS LATEST ONE THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET NEXT WEEK WAS AROUND $8 MILLION. 
          BUT ONCE YOU START IDENTIFYING ALL THE ENTITIES THAT ARE INVOLVED IN IT, IT SHRINKS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 16,000 THAT WE GIVES AN ENTITY IN SOME, IT COMES ON A REGULAR BASIS, SOMETIMES IT'S ONE OFF. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF VARIATION OF HOW THAT COMES IN. 
          BUT AS WE MOVE SO IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A DEAL WHERE EVERY YEAR WE'RE GOING TO HAVE X AMOUNT OF DOLLARS NECESSARILY READY READY AND AVAILABLE TO EXECUTE. 
          I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IS JUST FIGURING OUT A BETTER SENSE OF HOW MUCH IN A GIVEN YEAR THAT WE HAVE ULTIMATELY. 
          JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE LOOKED INTO IT, AND IF WE HAVE A SENSE THAT WE'LL HAVE X AMOUNT DOLLS EVERY YEAR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACT UPON, BUT I THINK RIGHT NOW IS THAT TRULY, WHAT I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR. 
          I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I THINK THAT BASE POINT IS THAT WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE DON'T KNOW. 
          I THINK FROM THERE, WE CAN GET SOLIDIFY THE CONCEPT. 
          PLEASE UNDERSTAND AS WE GO INTO PROCESS, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOUR ASSESSMENT. 
          WHAT WE GOT TO DO IS START CRYSTALLIZING WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. 
          AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT MAY JUST COME SIMPLY PUT THAT MAYBE US PASSING THESE DOLLARS TO A DIFFERENT ENTITY CAN MAKE THE MAXIMUM IMPACT. 
          IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S THERE. 
          BUT AGAIN, WHAT I'M ENCOURAGED BY IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE VERY, VERY EXCITED FOR THE CONVERSATION AND I WANT TO SEE WHAT FRUIT THAT THAT CAN BEAR AND COME BACK TO YOU. 
          BUT I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR AND WE CAN COME BACK AND GIVE YOU AN UPDATE AFTER THE FIRST MEETING OR SO JUST TO SAY, HERE'S HOW THINGS START CRYSTALLIZING. 
          WE DON'T RUN INTO A SCENARIO THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE TRUST ME SEEING WHAT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES IS SOME OF THESE GROUPS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING COMING UP THAT A GROUP JUST OPERATING WITHOUT A TRUE CHARGE OUR GOAL, THAT'S VERY MUCH BEEN IN THE FOREFRONT OF MY MIND AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS TAKE GOOD PEOPLE'S TIME AND ENERGY AND EFFORTS, AND IT'S NOT BEARING ANY FRUIT. 
          >> I AGREE WITH DOING A TASK FORCE. 
          I THINK IT'S A GOOD FIRST START. 
          I AGREE THAT WE ALSO NEED TO SET BOUNDS ABOUT OPIOID FUNDS, I THINK IS ONE GOOD THING. 
          BUT I ALSO THINK WHAT WE'RE DISCUSSING IS WHAT IS THE MUNICIPALITY'S ROLE IN THIS? IS IT NOTHING? IS IT GETTING YEARLY UPDATE FROM POLICE AND FIRE? 
          >> I'M NOT PROPOSING NOTHING. 
          BUT WE ALREADY ARE DOING SOME THINGS. 
          ALSO, WHAT IS THE EFFICACY OF WHAT WE CAN ACHIEVE BASED ON WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING? WE'RE NOT GOING TO SOLVE IT. 
          >> GO AHEAD, CHRIS. 
          >> MAYBE NOT THAT I'M SAYING NOTHING IS WHAT ARE OUR NEXT STEPS? WE ARE ALREADY DOING THINGS. 
          BUT WHAT ARE OTHER TOWNS DOING? WHAT DOES THIS TASK FORCE RECOMMEND. 
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          >> I COMPLETE AGREE. I THINK THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO DEFINE THE GOALS. 
          THAT'S WHY I WANT TO KNOW WHAT ARE THE GOALS AND THEN WHO'S IN CHARGE. 
          I THINK IT'S REALLY GREAT THAT WE KICK THIS OFF, BUT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING WHERE WE GET IT STARTED, WE FACILITATE, WE MAKE THESE CONNECTIONS WITH THE COUNTY WITH THE DIFFERENT NON PROFITS WITH THE FAITH BASED ORGANIZATIONS, AND THIS BECOMES A THING OF ITS OWN AND WE HAND IT OFF AND THEY DO THEIR THING. 
          WE CAN PARTICIPATE WITH GRANTS, SOME OF THE MONEY WE DONATE. 
          BUT MAYBE WE AREN'T THE ONES TO CARRY THIS CHARGE LONG TERM. 
          BUT I AM INTERESTED TO SEE WHERE IT GOES AND WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. 
          >> AGREED, IT CAN'T BE IN PERPETUITY. 
          IT'S GOT TO HAVE GUARD RAILS. 
          I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THEM REPORTING BACK TO US. 
          IF THERE'S MORE THAT WE CAN DO, I'M OPEN TO THAT, BUT WE SHOULDN'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE TO BE THE ONES TO BE IN CHARGE OF THIS LONG TERM BECAUSE AS THE CHIEFS HAVE MENTIONED AS JAMES HAS MENTIONED, WE'RE PROBABLY NOT THE BEST EQUIPPED TO DO THAT. 
          BUT IF WE CAN FACILITATE SOMETHING HAPPENING, I THINK THAT TO ME, THAT'S A POSITIVE RESULT OF THIS TASK FORCE. 
          >> SEEMS LIKE JAMES IS EXACTLY OFFERING THAT. 
          HE HAS THOSE GOALS OF FINDING WHAT WE DON'T KNOW AND I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA AND I AGREE, PLEASE. 
          >> WERE YOU GOING TO GO [INAUDIBLE]? I APPRECIATE THE CHIEFS AT THE READY. 
          I WON'T EVEN REFERENCING THAT. 
          >> DO YOU WANT TO COME UP HERE? 
          >> NO, I THINK THAT WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY IS I GOT A PAGE FULL OF NOTES AND I THINK THOSE ARE JUST A NATURAL FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS. 
          AGAIN, WE'LL TAKE THIS INFORMATION. 
          WE'LL FOCUS ON THAT INITIAL MEETING. 
          AGAIN, I THINK ULTIMATELY AT THE END OF THE DAY, I THINK WE ALL WANT THE SAME THING. 
          I THINK WE'RE ALL SEEKING THE SAME THING AND SO THE FEEDBACK IS VERY HELPFUL TO ALLOW US TO SCOPE THIS BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, NO MATTER WHAT COMES OF THIS, IT'S GOING TO COME BEFORE THIS BODY, ULTIMATELY, WHETHER IT'S THE OPIATE FUNDS OR ANY TYPE OF OPERATIONAL DECISION THAT'S BEING MADE. 
          I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO VET AND PROVIDE FEEDBACK ON WHATEVER IT IS THAT ULTIMATELY IS DECIDED. 
          JUST UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT GOING TO GO IN A CERTAIN DIRECTION, AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE UNAWARE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH IT. 
          >> YEAH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. 
          I LOVE THE WORK YOU DID ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU, JAMES. 
          >> THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING, SO. 
          >> YEAH, I CAN REOPEN IT TO PUBLIC [BACKGROUND]. 
          >> THIS IS A WORK SESSION TONIGHT. 
          I OPENED PUBLIC COMMENT EARLIER. 
          WE CLOSED THAT FOR THE WORK SESSION ITEMS, BUT I WILL REOPEN PUBLIC COMMENT, IF ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANTS TO SPEAK. 
          JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. 
          >> NAME IS KATHY OKEITH. 
          I RESIDE AT 3004 OXFORD COURT, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS 75028. 
          THE ONLY THING I WANTED TO SAY IS I AM PART OF WINNING THE FIGHT. 
          I'VE BEEN FIGHTING IN THIS TOWN FOR 15 YEARS ALMOST. 
          ANYWAY, WHEN I WENT TO THIS MEETING, THE FIRST MEETING, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. 
          YOU HAD THESE OPIATE FUNDS AND I WAS EXPECTING ALL THESE PEOPLE AT THIS TABLE GOING, GIVE ME GIVE ME, GIVE ME. 
          AS SOON AS WE SAT DOWN, IT WAS DETERMINED THAT OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THIS LONG TERM AND TO FIND OUT WHERE BEST WE CAN HELP OUR COMMUNITY REGARDLESS OF FUNDS. 
          FOR THAT, I'M REALLY EXCITED. 
          WE HAVE FUNDS. IT COULD BE USED FOR ANYTHING. 
          THE GOAL, THOUGH, I THINK, IS TO ACTUALLY HELP OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE THEY NEED HELP. 
          THEY DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THESE FUNDS. 
          WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHERE THE HOLES ARE IN ALL THESE LITTLE PLACES SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR OUR FAMILIES. 
          I'M NOT TALKING IN SIX MONTHS OR 12 MONTHS, I'M TALKING LONG TERM BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE FENTANYL RIGHT NOW. 
          NEXT WEEK, IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING ELSE. 
          WE'RE CONSTANTLY GOING TO BE HAVING THIS. 
          FOR THAT, I'M JUST GRATEFUL FOR THIS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME TALK. 
          >> NO PROBLEM. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK IN PUBLIC COMMENT? WE'LL CLOSE PUBLIC COMMENT. 
          WE'LL GO BACK TO THE WORK SESSION. 
          DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING MORE? JAMES, YOU DON'T NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          YOU'RE GOOD? 
          >> NO, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE Y'ALL FEEDBACK. 
          >> THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO GO ON TO ITEM 3, 
          [01:20:04]
THE PET MICROCHIP SCANNING SOLUTIONS. 
          CHIEF COULON IS GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS. 
          >> GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. 
          COUNCIL PERSON WERNER, I THINK YOU BROUGHT UP YOU SAW A PET SCANNING STATION. 
          I THINK I EVEN FOUND THE EXACT STATION YOU FOUND SO WE'LL GO OVER WHAT IT IS AND WHY THEY HAVE THAT THERE. 
          THEN WE'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS IN FLOWER MOUND, AND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS ANY IDEAS OR ASK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PET SCANNING STATION. 
          I THINK IT WAS THE TOWN OF NORTH TOPSAIL BEACH. 
          THAT'S A LITTLE BITTY TOWN OF 1,000 PEOPLE. 
          THEY DO NOT HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES DEPARTMENT. 
          OBVIOUSLY, A TOWN OF 1,000 DOESN'T HAVE IT. 
          WHEN WE CALLED THEM TO ASK, WHAT DO YOU DO? YOU HAVE TO CALL THE COUNTY. 
          I CALLED THE COUNTY AND SAID, IF IT'S AFTER HOURS AND SOMEONE FINDS A PET, WILL YOU COME OUT AND TAKE THE PET? THEY SAID, NO. 
          IN THIS SMALL LITTLE BEACH TOWN, AFTER HOURS, THEY HAVE NO WAY TO REUNITE PETS WITH THEIR OWNERS. 
          A NONPROFIT CAME UP WITH THE IDEA OF PUTTING ONE OF THESE PET SCANNING STATIONS UP. 
          I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE IDEA CAME FROM. 
          THE WHOLE THING WORKS IS YOU OPEN A LITTLE CASE, TAKE THE PET SCANNER OUT, IT HAS INSTRUCTIONS ON WHERE TO SCAN ON THE ANIMAL. 
          THEN IT ONLY TELLS YOU WHAT COMPANY THE MICRO CHIP IS AND HOW TO CONTACT THE COMPANY. 
          THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO CALL THE COMPANY AND EVERY SINGLE COMPANY WE CALL, WE CALL ALL NINE OF THEM, NONE OF THEM WILL GIVE ANY OF THE INFORMATION OF THE PET OWNER TO THAT PERSON. 
          ALL THEY WILL DO IS SAY, WE'LL SEND THEM AN EMAIL OR CALL THEM AND LET THEM KNOW YOU HAVE THEIR PET. 
          THERE'S NO OTHER INSTRUCTIONS AFTER THAT. 
          THAT PERSON THEN JUST WAITS TO SEE IF THEY GET A CALL. 
          THAT'S WHAT THEY HAD TO DO IN THIS COUNTY TO GET THAT TO WORK. 
          IT'S A SMALL UNIVERSAL SCANNER, IT'S $4-500 DEPENDING ON WHO WE CAN GET IT FROM. 
          OUR SCANNERS THAT WE GET, THEY ONLY LAST 1-1.5 YEARS. 
          THEN WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE WHOLE THING BECAUSE THE SCREENS GO OUT. 
          THEY'RE JUST NOT VERY WELL MADE. 
          IF WE PUT IT OUT IN A CONTAINER OUTSIDE, REASONS SUGGESTED WON'T EVEN LAST THAT LONG. 
          BUT WE CAN DO SOMETHING OUTSIDE LIKE WHAT THEY DID IN THIS SLIDE. 
          IT WOULD LOOK BETTER IN FLOWER MOUND, [LAUGHTER] WE PUT IT ON A NICER POLE AND STUFF BUT THEN WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE REPLACEMENT BATTERIES. 
          IF WE PUT A FLEET OF THESE OUT, WE MIGHT SPEND ALL DAY GOING ONE TIME A MONTH LOOKING IN REPLACING BATTERIES. 
          >> YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY HAD THAT SCANNER, IT STILL DOESN'T GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION TO FIND THE OWNER? 
          >> CORRECT. ALL IT WILL GIVE THEM IS THE COMPANY CONTACT FOR THE CHIP. 
          NONE OF THE CHIP COMPANIES WILL RELEASE ANY PET OWNER INFORMATION TO ANYONE THAT'S NOT PART OF AN ANIMAL SERVICES GROUP. 
          >> WELL, THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE IT'S A SAFETY ISSUE, BUT SO THEN THEY HAVE TO HOLD ONTO THIS ANIMAL UNTIL THAT COMPANY GETS IN CONTACT WITH THE OWNER. 
          >> THEN THE OWNER GETS IN CONTACT WITH THEM OR UNTIL ANIMAL SERVICES OPEN UP. 
          >> IS IT ABOUT THE SAME PROCESS FOR ANIMAL SERVICES? DO THEY GIVE THE OWNER INFORMATION TO ANIMAL SERVICES? 
          >> THEY WILL GIVE IT TO US AND SO WHEN WE SCAN THE ANIMAL, WE CAN KNOW RIGHT AWAY WE NEED TO DRIVE TO THIS ADDRESS TO DROP THIS DOG OFF. 
          WE GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER SERVICE BECAUSE OF THAT. 
          >> GOT YOU. 
          >> THE OTHER DIFFERENCES IN FLOWER MOUND IS OUR ANIMAL SERVICES DO RESPOND AFTER HOURS FOR A LOST PET. 
          IF YOU FIND THE PET, YOU CALL THE NON EMERGENCY LINE FOR POLICE DISPATCH. 
          THE DISPATCHERS, I TALKED TO FIVE OF THEM JUST TO VERIFY THAT I GOT THE SAME STORY. 
          THEY FIRST ASK THAT PERSON, WELL, CAN YOU KEEP THE PET UNTIL ANIMAL SERVICES OPEN? IF THE PERSON SAYS, NO, THEN WE CALL ANIMAL SERVICES, SOMEBODY ON CALL. 
          THEY GET DRESSED, THEY COME AND THEN THEY MEET UP WITH THAT PET FINDER AND THEY TAKE THE PET TO REUNITE. 
          IF THEY CAN REUNITE RIGHT AWAY, WE DO, IF NOT, THEN WE PUT THEM IN THE SHELTER AND THEN WE WORK ON IT THE NEXT BUSINESS DAY. 
          THAT'S THE BASIC PROGRAM THAT WE SAW. 
          FLOWER MOUND OBVIOUSLY DOES A LOT MORE BECAUSE WE CAN JUST PROVIDE A LOT MORE SERVICES. 
          IF WE WANTED TO PUT ONE UP, 
          [01:25:02]
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK THROUGH WHERE I WOULD RECOMMEND. 
          IF I FOUND A DOG AND I WAS ABLE TO CAPTURE IT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO HAVE IT CAPTURED OBVIOUSLY AND I DID NOT CALL THE NON EMERGENCY LINE OR CALL ANIMAL SERVICES, TO ME THE MOST LOGICAL THING IS I WOULD DRIVE IT TO THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING. 
          WHEN I GOT THERE, IF I FOUND IT WAS LOCKED, BUT THE LITTLE SCANNER SITTING RIGHT THERE, MAYBE I DO THAT OR WE COULD SAY, AFTER HOURS, MAKE SURE YOU CALL IF YOU CAME UP HERE. 
          I THINK WE CAN GET THINGS ACCOMPLISHED A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS. 
          I ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OR SUGGESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS. 
          >> I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS. 
          IT'S REALLY MORE WHAT IS YOUR SUGGESTION? IT ALMOST DOESN'T SOUND LIKE IT WILL BIAS ANYTHING. 
          >> NO, I THINK MAYBE THE BEST SUGGESTION FOR ME LOOKING AT THIS IS I GO BACK AND LOOK AT OUR DIFFERENT ANIMAL LOCATIONS LIKE THE DOG PARK WE HAVE, THE ANIMAL SERVICES BUILDING, AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SIGNAGE ON THE OUTSIDE THAT SAYS, AFTER HOURS, MAKE SURE YOU CALL THIS NUMBER SO THAT WE CAN HELP YOU. 
          TALK TO A DISPATCHER TELL HER WHAT'S GOING ON, AND THEN THEY CAN DETERMINE IF WE CAN CALL SOMEBODY OUT. 
          WE MAINTAIN THE ON CALL STATUS 24 HOURS A DAY EVERY DAY. 
          WE JUST DO A LOT HERE. 
          >> I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD. 
          THEY'RE DESPERATE FOR THINGS TO DO. 
          THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S AN INTERESTING TOPIC. 
          WE NEED TO KNOW HOW MANY DOGS PEOPLE ARE FINDING. 
          I KNOW I'VE CAPTURED ONE IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AT ONE TIME AND THEN YOU JUST HANG AROUND UNTIL SOMEBODY'S DRIVING BY AND THEN THEY SAY, THERE'S MY DOG. 
          BUT WHERE IS THIS HAPPENING AT AND WHETHER OR NOT THIS SOLUTION WOULD REALLY FILL THAT DEFICIENCY? I THINK THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD COULD CHEW ON THIS AND THIS WOULD BE A GREAT TOPIC FOR THEM. 
          >> THEY DO RECEIVE REPORTS, AND SINCE WE DON'T MEET EVEN BARELY QUARTERLY REALLY, IT'S FOR SEVERAL MONTHS. 
          WE READ THE STATISTICS OF HOW MANY ANIMALS ARE FOUND, HOW MANY ARE OWNER SURRENDERS, ETC. 
          MY THOUGHT ON THIS IS IT'S A NICE STOPGAP MEASURE THAT THIS OTHER COMMUNITY CAME UP WITH BECAUSE THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THEIR OWN ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          I FEEL LIKE OUR ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD IS THERE AND WE'LL FULFILL MORE EFFICIENTLY THE LOST PET SITUATION. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF SOCIAL MEDIA POSTS. 
          ANYBODY WHO'S ON IT SEES, I LOST MY DOG OR I FOUND THIS DOG OR CATS MISSING. 
          I THINK THAT'S A NICE WAY TO ROUND OUT TO THE PROBLEM. 
          BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING I GUESS ABOUT OTHER THINGS THE ANIMAL SERVICES MIGHT DO IN ADDITION TO THEIR PRIMARY FUNCTION. 
          THAT'LL BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION THE NEXT MEETING, I GUESS, FOR ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD? 
          >> IT WILL BE AND SO YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW FROM A STAFF LEVEL WITH CHIEF COULON AND THE TEAM TO TALK ABOUT ADMINISTRATIVELY, WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING AT AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE TO GET THE BALL ROLLING ON INCREASING THAT SCOPE OF WORK BECAUSE IF YOU DO LOOK AT THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES RIGHT NOW, IT'S LITERALLY THREE LETTERS A, B, AND C PERIOD. 
          THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY AND SOME THINGS THAT COULD PROBABLY BE CHANGED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO DO OTHER THINGS THAT EITHER YOU ALL COME UP WITH OR IN TANDEM WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEIR NEEDS OPERATIONALLY. 
          BACK TO THIS TOPIC, I THINK HONESTLY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COST AND ALSO THE LIFE OF SERVICE OF THE UNIT, ESPECIALLY IN YOUR CUSTODY, WHICH YOU TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT, I KNOW VERSUS OUT IN THE OPEN, I JUST THINK IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HELP THAT MUCH. I'M SORRY. 
          >> I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY, IT ALMOST LOOKS LIKE THAT CORD THAT THAT DEVICE IS ON COULD EASILY BREAK IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY FORCEFULLY PULLING ON IT. 
          >> PUTTING ON MY POLICE AD, I ALREADY KNOW IT'S GOING TO GO MISSING. 
          >> YOU DON'T CARRY THESE THOUGH. 
          THEY ONLY GET SCANNED AT ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          >> ANIMAL SERVICES CARRIERS. 
          >> I THINK THIS IS AS SOMEONE MENTIONED, A GOOD STOPGAP FOR THAT COMMUNITY. 
          I THINK THE LEVEL OF SERVICE WE OFFER HERE MAKES THIS NOT REALLY A REQUIREMENT OR NOT REALLY A BENEFIT TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. 
          TO ADAM'S POINT, ABOUT YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL SERVICES COMMITTEE LOOK INTO THIS. 
          I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE ANSWER. 
          I THINK THIS IS LOOKING FOR A PROBLEM TO MAKE THE SOLUTION FIT. 
          HOWEVER, IF THEY COULD LOOK INTO IT AND SEE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM MORE SIGNAGE, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THOSE SIGNS AS CHIEF COULON MENTIONED? I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CHARGE TO GIVE TO THE ANIMAL SERVICE. 
          >> LOST DOG TOPIC. 
          DOES THE PUBLIC KNOW WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY FIND, LOST DOGS STRAY DOGS, I SEE THEM OCCASIONALLY. 
          THEN WHEN YOU HAVE ONE, WHAT'S THE ANSWER? DO YOU CALL THIS NUMBER? DO YOU WAIT? DO YOU PUT IT ON FACEBOOK? DO YOU GRAB THE SCANNER? 
          [01:30:01]
I THINK IT'S A GOOD TOPIC. I THINK THE ANIMAL SERVICE BOARD NEEDS SOME GOOD [OVERLAPPING]. 
          >> I AGREE AND THE COMMUNICATIONS TEAM AT TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND WILL PROBABLY DO A NICE LITTLE VIDEO ABOUT IT AS WELL. 
          >> I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE THEIR FIRST PLACE IS TO GO TO FACEBOOK AND POST A PICTURE RATHER THAN CALL ANIMAL SERVICES. 
          >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? 
          >> THANKS FOR ORGANIZING THIS. 
          >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT INFORMATION. 
          >> THANK YOU, CHIEF COULON. 
          >> WELCOME. 
          >> WE DON'T HAVE ANY ACTION TO TAKE TONIGHT. 
          IT IS NOW 7:29, AND OUR TOWN COUNCIL WORK SESSION IS ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.