Nov 18, 2024 Town Council Archive

[A. CALL TO ORDER ]

[00:00:10]

GOOD EVENING. FLOWER MOUND.

THE TIME IS NOW 6 P.M.

AND WE ARE MEETING FOR OUR TOWN COUNCIL REGULAR MEETING THIS DATE ON NOVEMBER 18TH.

WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION TONIGHT BY CHAPLAIN RUSS MCNAMER.

AND THEN WE'LL REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

IF YOU'LL PLEASE BOW YOUR HEADS.

OUR GOD AND CREATOR.

THANK YOU FOR LIFE.

AND FOR EACH ONE HERE.

WE THANK YOU FOR OUR MANY BLESSINGS IN THIS SEASON OF THANKSGIVING.

PLEASE HELP US TO REMEMBER THE LESS FORTUNATE AND THE BROKENHEARTED.

MAY WE BLESS THEM AND COMFORT THEM AS YOU HAVE BLESSED US.

PLEASE PROTECT OUR POLICE AND FIRE SERVICE AND ALL IN HARM'S WAY.

PLEASE GIVE US WISDOM IN ALL DECISIONS AND BLESS THIS MEETING.

AMEN.

I WILL GO AHEAD AND START WITH PRESENTATIONS.

[D. PRESENTATION(S)]

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE NATIONAL NIGHT OUT AWARDS.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE JAMES AUGENSTEIN COME UP AND WE'LL START WITH THAT.

WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO SHOW UP FOR OUR NEXT PROCLAMATION.

OKAY, WELL.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU, MISS MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, IT IS MY PLEASURE TO SAY THAT THIS YEAR WE HAD NEARLY 30 BLOCK PARTIES REGISTER FOR NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.

THANK YOU TO ALL THAT REGISTERED AND BASED ON HOW GREAT THIS YEAR'S PARTIES WENT, WE HOPE THAT WE HAVE EVEN MORE NEXT YEAR.

I WOULD LIKE TO SPECIFICALLY HONOR THE THREE PARTIES THAT WON THIS YEAR'S NATIONAL NIGHT OUT PARTY OF THE YEAR AWARDS.

FIRST IN THE CATEGORY OF INDIVIDUAL PARTY.

THE WINNER IS WAGER ROAD.

NEXT, IN THE CATEGORY OF SMALL HOA PARTY, THE WINNER IS LAKEMONT.

AND FINALLY, IN THE CATEGORY OF LARGE HOA PARTY, YOUR WINNER IS VILLAGES OF NORTH SHORE.

THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS, CHIEF COULON, CHIEF HENLEY AND OUR OTHER WONDERFUL JUDGES WHO WERE ABLE TO ATTEND THE PARTIES ON OCTOBER 1ST.

THANK YOU TO THE PEOPLE THAT PUT ON THE PARTIES.

YOU ALL DID A GREAT JOB AND DESERVED TO BE HONORED FOR YOUR HARD WORK.

AT THIS TIME, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP THE REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE WINNING PARTIES IF YOU ARE HERE SO WE CAN TAKE A PICTURE.

MAYOR, JUST A HEADS UP THAT ADAM SPEAS IS DOING DOUBLE DUTY, SO HE'S WORKING THE BACK, AND SO HE'S COMING IN NOW, SO.

DON'T JUMP IN.

YEAH.

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OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PROCLAMATION TONIGHT.

THIS IS FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND RAY WATSON IS GOING TO COME UP AND MELODY EBY AND LORI WALKER. I DON'T THINK SHE'S HERE QUITE YET.

SHE'S STUCK IN TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, SUPPORTS AND CELEBRATES OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO OUR ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY, AND ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 34.7 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE US, WHICH REPRESENT 99.7% OF FIRMS WITH PAID EMPLOYEES AND SMALL BUSINESSES ARE A MAJOR ECONOMIC DRIVER, EMPLOYING 45.9% OF EMPLOYEES IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IN THE US, AND WHEREAS SHOPPING LOCAL KEEPS AND CIRCULATES THE CONSUMER DOLLARS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

FOR EVERY DOLLAR SPENT AT A SMALL BUSINESS IN THE US, APPROXIMATELY $0.68 STAYS IN THAT LOCAL COMMUNITY AND ADVOCACY GROUPS, AS WELL AS PUBLIC AND PRIVATE ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, HAVE ENDORSED, HAVE ENDORSED THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.

GOOD SENSE. NOW, THEREFORE, I, SHERYL MOORE, MAYOR OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 30TH, 2024, AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY.

OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW WE'LL GO ON TO OUR NEXT SECTION E FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR THIS SECTION OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT UNTIL OUR PUBLIC HEARING.

WE'LL WAIT FOR THOSE.

BUT DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND DO A PUBLIC COMMENT AT THIS TIME? OKAY. NO ONE IS STEPPING FORWARD.

SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

JUST WANT TO WISH EVERYBODY A HAPPY THANKSGIVING AND ENJOY THE TIME WITH FAMILY.

SO OKAY, I DON'T HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS EITHER, SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

AND IF ANYBODY HAS BEEN WATCHING OR LOOKING AT OUR LOCAL NEWS, THERE HAS BEEN TALK ABOUT CLOSING SOME OF OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS IN THE LISD AREA. AND SO JAMES CHILDERS AND I MET WITH DOCTOR RAPP, OUR SUPERINTENDENT OF LISD, ON FRIDAY.

I KNOW THIS IS A VERY EMOTIONAL TIME FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE THEIR KIDS IN THESE SCHOOLS THAT THERE'S TALK ABOUT THEM CLOSING DOWN. SO WE WANTED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.

JAMES IS GOING TO RECAP THE DISCUSSION.

WE DO KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL BOARD IS HAVING A WORK SESSION ON DECEMBER 2ND.

AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE AN ACTION SET FORTH IF NEEDED ON DECEMBER 9TH AT THEIR SCHOOL BOARD MEETING. AT THAT TIME.

SO IF THERE IS ANY ACTION BY COUNCIL, WE'LL HAVE TO DO THAT BY OUR DECEMBER 2ND MEETING.

AND AT THIS POINT, WE DO KNOW THAT LISD IS WORKING DILIGENTLY TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY NEED TO PROVIDE

[00:10:09]

SO, JAMES, IF YOU WANT TO KIND OF RECAP OUR DISCUSSION.

THANK YOU MAYOR. EXCUSE ME.

THANK YOU MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT.

AND I KNOW MANY OF THE FAMILIES THAT HAVE REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN ASKING THEM TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE DISTRICT ABOUT THAT.

I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY NOT BE AWARE THAT AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE DON'T HAVE ANY DIRECT OVERSIGHT OR TANGIBLE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.

WE CAN'T OPINE OR WE CAN'T OPINE ON THEIR OPERATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE FEEDBACK THAT'S BEEN SHARED AND PEOPLE FROM OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY THAT MIGHT NOT SOMETIMES BE THE CASE.

SO WHEN PEOPLE MOVE TO TEXAS, THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.

AND OUTSIDE OF JUST WORKING TOGETHER IN CONCERT.

SO AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, HER AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH DOCTOR RAPP LAST FRIDAY OBVIOUSLY WE CONVEYED THE THINGS THAT THEY'VE BEEN SHARING WITH YOU ALL AS A COUNCIL AND IN WRITING IN AND, AND ASKING YOU TO LET THE SCHOOL DISTRICT KNOW ABOUT THE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS IN THE FAMILIES THAT THAT FEED INTO GARDEN RIDGE ELEMENTARY. DOCTOR RAPP, YOU KNOW, WALKED US THROUGH PRETTY MUCH THE SAME MATERIALS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT EVERYBODY HAVE ACCESS TO.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY ENCOURAGE ANYBODY WHO IS WANTING TO GET UNDERSTANDING.

THERE IS A LINK ON THEIR WEB PAGE THAT'S ABOUT THE DISTRICT EFFICIENCY UPDATE.

ONCE YOU GO THERE, YOU CAN CLICK ON THE COMPREHENSIVE PROPOSAL DOCUMENT, AND IT LAYS OUT ALL THE DATA BEHIND SOME OF THE DECISIONS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED AT THIS TIME.

SO THE MAYOR AND I HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONVEY SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH US BY OUR RESIDENTS THAT HAVE BEEN EMAILING TO YOU ALL.

SHE UNDERSTOOD MANY OF THESE SAME FOLKS HAVE GONE TO THE LISTENING SESSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED AND CONVEYED THAT.

SO WHAT THE MAYOR AND I DID IS JUST AMPLIFIED THOSE CONCERNS THAT WERE SHARED WITH US.

SO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND SOME OF THOSE EMAILS ASKED FOR YOU ALL TO DO A RESOLUTION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL CAN GO IN AND DO.

AND WE WANTED TO PROVIDE THIS SPACE AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE ANY DIRECTION TO STAFF.

AS THE MAYOR INDICATED, WE IF WE ARE GOING TO TAKE ACTION, IT WILL TAKE PLACE ON DECEMBER 2ND MEETING.

IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THAT WE SO CHOOSE.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT, EXCUSE ME TO YOU ALL AS A BODY.

WAIT JAMES. NO, THAT WAS ACTUALLY DECEMBER 9TH.

ACTION WILL BE TAKEN.

WELL, I'M SORRY, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THIS.

OH, YEAH, BUT WE WILL HAVE TO. YEAH, YEAH.

YES. WE HAVE A MEETING ON DECEMBER 2ND.

I'M SORRY, BUT LISD WILL HAVE A WORK SESSION ON THE SECOND, AND THEY WILL TAKE ACTION ON DECEMBER 9TH.

BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT A UNIQUE FEATURE OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS THAT WE DO HAVE A SCHOOL LIAISON BOARD.

AND AS WE PROGRESS THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION, WHAT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IS UNILATERALLY JUST MOVE FORWARD WITHOUT ALLOWING Y'ALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, DO Y'ALL ENVISION THIS GROUP HAVING? OBVIOUSLY TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE, BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THAT WAS POINTED OUT, I SAID, THAT'S A VALID POINT TO BRING UP HERE AT OUR MEETING ON MONDAY TO BE ABLE TO FOR YOU GUYS TO DISCUSS WHAT ROLE, IF ANY, THAT OUR SCHOOL LIAISON BOARD CAN COMMITTEE EXCUSE ME CAN HAVE INVOLVED IN THIS.

SO REALLY, WE JUST WANT TO OPEN UP THE FLOOR FOR ANY DIRECTION, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE OF US AS WE PROCEED.

AND, AND WE'RE REALLY WILLING TO TAKE THAT DIRECTION AND READY TO TAKE THAT DIRECTION TO MAKE ANY MOVES ON THAT DECEMBER 2ND MEETING, IF YOU SO CHOOSE.

SORRY, I'M GETTING SITUATED.

I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE THE IDEA OF MAKING SOME KIND OF A STATEMENT, I UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW, AS A MUNICIPALITY, WE ARE RUN SEPARATELY FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, BUT THERE IS SOME OVERLAP.

CERTAINLY, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF OUR RESIDENTS, WHICH THEY DID COME TO ALL OF US WITH A CONCERN EXPRESSED.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE FUTURE OF OUR TOWN.

IF THAT SCHOOL WERE CLOSED, WHAT WOULD BECOME OF THAT PROPERTY? SO I THINK FROM THAT SIDE OF IT, WE MAY HAVE A CONCERN GOING FORWARD.

AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF US DISCUSSING IT ON DECEMBER 2ND, BUT I WOULD LIKE US TO EXPLORE THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO HAVE THE SCHOOL LIAISON COMMITTEE INVOLVED AS WELL.

IF THERE'S TIME FOR THAT, MAYBE THEY COULD BE MOBILIZED BY YOU.

JAMES. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT IS HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

AND THEN MAYBE THEY CAN PARTICIPATE IN DECEMBER 2ND AND GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK ON BASED ON THEIR OBSERVATIONS AND THEIR IDEAS.

IS THAT SOUND OKAY? I CAN WORK WITH THERESA ON THAT.

I MEAN, TYPICALLY I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF INTERFACES WITH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, BUT I CAN COORDINATE WITH THERESA TO REACH OUT TO THAT GROUP AND ENGAGE THEM.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM DOING THAT ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT COMES OF THE FACILITY.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DID ASK DOCTOR RAPP ABOUT.

[00:15:02]

THEY OFTENTIMES THEY CAN REPURPOSE FACILITIES FOR OTHER USES WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

THEY CAN SELL OFF THE PROPERTY AND OTHER COMPONENTS LIKE THAT.

THAT'S A LITTLE TOO FAR DOWN THE ROAD TO, TO, TO GET INTO.

BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PUT ON DOCTOR RAPP'S RADAR SCREEN AS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAS COME UP FROM SOME OF OUR RESIDENTS.

THANK YOU. JAMES.

WE GOT ABOUT A DOZEN EMAILS FROM PARENTS AT GARDEN RIDGE ELEMENTARY, AND THEY HAD INDICATED THAT HIGHLAND VILLAGE HAD MADE HAD ISSUED A RESOLUTION.

DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? YES I DO. THEY, THEY THEIR RESOLUTION AND WE DO HAVE A COPY OF IT AND SO DOES OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.

AND IT JUST LAID OUT THE REASONS.

I MEAN, THE, THE, THE RESOLUTION BASICALLY STATED THEY UNDERSTAND THE THOUGHT PROCESS OF, OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE WORK THAT WENT INTO IT.

HOWEVER, THEY JUST PROVIDE SOME POINTS THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THEY WANTED TO POINT OUT AS TO WHY IT SHOULD BE RECONSIDERED AND INCLUDING LOOKING AT IT TO SEE IF IT CAN WAIT TILL AFTER THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS.

NOT SAYING THAT YOU'RE IMPLYING THAT, BUT THEIR REASONING WAS VERY SPECIFIC TO HIGHLAND VILLAGE, THOUGH, SO IT'S A NOT NECESSARILY A TEMPLATE FOR THE TOWN.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO CLEARLY ARTICULATE IS OUR REASONING TO GO IN AND DO IT, BUT WE DO HAVE A COPY OF IT, AND CERTAINLY IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANT TO GO, WE CAN WORK WITH OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT TO DRAFT UP A RESOLUTION.

SO MY SENSE IS THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE CYCLE IS GOING TO RESOLVE THE SCHOOL FUNDING ISSUE THAT'S BEEN ONGOING, AND IT SEEMS HASTY FOR THE DISTRICT TO MAKE DECISIONS ON DECEMBER 9TH, PERHAPS WHEN IF THE FUNDING IS HANDLED IN A WAY, IT MAY MAKE THIS WHOLE DISCUSSION IRRELEVANT OR CHANGE IT SIGNIFICANTLY.

SO IF WE WERE GOING TO PASS A RESOLUTION, I THINK I WOULD AT THIS MOMENT BE IN FAVOR OF SOMETHING TO SAY.

LET'S HOLD OFF ON THIS ANY ANY COMMITTING OURSELVES TO ANY STRATEGY RELATED TO REDISTRICTING AND CLOSINGS UNTIL AFTER WE HAVE A RESOLUTION.

AND IF, FRANKLY, IF THE LEGISLATURE CAN'T GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER AGAIN, THEN MAYBE THAT FORCES THEIR HAND.

BUT IT SEEMS VERY HASTY TO ME TO TAKE THIS ACTION NOW.

SO I WOULD BE AT THIS MOMENT IN FAVOR OF A RESOLUTION TO JUST SAY, HOLD OFF UNTIL AFTER THE LEGISLATURE HAS COMPLETED THEIR REGULAR SESSION AT A VERY MINIMUM.

I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA TO AND THAT WOULD ACCELERATE OUR RESPONSE.

BUT GO AHEAD.

SORRY I INTERRUPTED YOU. WELL, I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY WE AREN'T ABLE TO TAKE ACTION TONIGHT.

WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO DO IT ON THE SECOND.

CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY. IS IT WORTHWHILE INCLUDING SOME LANGUAGE TO ENCOURAGE THE SENATE TO BAN TAN MITCH TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO KIND OF HELP RESOLVE THIS FUNDING ISSUE, SOME SORT OF LANGUAGE? I MEAN, I THINK THE RESOLUTION COULD INCLUDE THAT LANGUAGE.

I MEAN, IT'S A NON-BINDING.

IT'S JUST BASICALLY PUTTING OUR CONSENSUS OPINION OUT THERE.

AND ABSOLUTELY, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE LEGISLATURE RESOLVE THE SCHOOL FUNDING CRISIS THIS LEGISLATIVE CYCLE.

AND I THINK THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE ONLY THING I WOULD CAUTION AGAINST, AND I'M ALL FOR RESOLUTION, BUT COMMENTING ON WHY WE AS FLOWER MOUND WANT TO KEEP THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OPEN, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS OUR RESIDENTS.

WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO THE FUTURE OF THAT LOCATION AND JUST HAVING THAT NICE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE FOR OUR RESIDENTS? I THINK TO ME, THAT'S THE KEY.

I DON'T WANT TO MEDDLE IN THE ISDS BUSINESS.

AND I WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO MEDDLE IN OUR BUSINESS, AND I DON'T WANT TO MEDDLE IN THEIRS, BUT I WANT TO HAVE A GOOD WORKING RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM.

AND SO I THINK IF WE COULD PASS A RESOLUTION THAT JUST FOCUSED ON, YOU KNOW, NOT THE LEGISLATIVE ACTIVITIES, BUT JUST THE BENEFITS TO FLOWER MOUND TO KEEP IT OPEN, AND MAYBE WE ENCOURAGE THEM TO DELAY IT OR RECONSIDER IT.

BUT HERE'S WHY AND FOCUS ON THAT.

I THINK I'D BE A LITTLE MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT APPROACH.

YEAH. AND I THINK THAT'S A POINT THAT JAMES AND I REITERATED TO DOCTOR RAPP IS THAT WE ARE SUPPORTIVE OF LISD AND THE DECISIONS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY WE'RE BRINGING THIS AND PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA SO THAT YOU ALL CAN ALSO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE DO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST ALSO IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEM, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY ARE THE DECISION MAKERS FOR THAT.

BUT IT'S YOU KNOW, I AGREE THAT MAYBE PUTTING THIS ON THE LEGISLATIVE TOPIC WOULD BE GOOD.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THAT? SO JUST SO WE'RE GOING TO ADD THAT TO DECEMBER 2ND.

SO I THINK THAT I SAW ENOUGH AFFIRMATIVES AROUND THERE THAT WE WILL START.

WE WILL WORK WITH BRANDON AND THE TEAM AND START PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER FOR THE DECEMBER 2ND AGENDA.

AND IF YOU WANTED TO ALSO ADD IT TO THE WORK SESSION WITH ANYTHING THAT YOU HAVE AT THAT TIME, THAT WAY WE CAN GET THROUGH SOME OF IT OR NO.

IS IT TOO SOON? IT'S ALREADY POSTED.

OH, IT'S ALREADY POSTED. OKAY, THANKS.

OKAY. HEARD ONE REMARK ABOUT THE SCHOOL LIAISON COMMITTEE.

I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR ANY INPUT FROM THEM AND FROM A RECOMMENDATION OR ANY INPUT FROM AN ADVISORY PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ROLE WOULD YOU LIKE THEM?

[00:20:09]

SO, I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR A FOUNDATION FOR THAT.

SO, WHEN WE HAVE THIS, THE ITEM ON THE AGENDA, CAN THEY PARTICIPATE IN THAT? CAN WE BRING THEM UP AND GET THEIR FEEDBACK.

BECAUSE I KIND OF HOPEFULLY THEY CAN MEET AHEAD OF TIME AND.

ABSOLUTELY AND I THINK THAT LIKE TO JAMES'S POINT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT MESSAGING.

WHAT DO YOU ALL EXPECT OF THEM IF THEY ARE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY WAY AT ALL? AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE IS INTEREST.

DO YOU ALL WANT THEM TO JUST OPINE ON THE RESOLUTION JUST WHEN IT'S ONCE IT'S DRAFTED AND AT THE MEETING, AND COME FORWARD AND TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH Y'ALL WITH WHAT THEY THINK. IS THAT THE GOAL? YEAH. YEAH, I THINK SO.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

IS THERE IS IT POSSIBLE FOR US TO PUT THEM IN TOUCH WITH THESE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED THEIR OPINION? I MEAN, EVEN IF WE JUST BASICALLY REPLY, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO OUR SCHOOL LIAISON COMMITTEE, IT'S ALL PUBLIC INFORMATION, THE EMAILS THAT WE CAN.

THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN APPRIZED THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN RECEIVING SOME COMMUNICATION JUST SO THEY WOULD BE IN THE KNOW, IN CASE YOU ALL WANTED THEM TO BE ENGAGED IN ANY WAY.

SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THAT.

I THINK GIVEN TIME IS OF ESSENCE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TIME TO DIVE INTO IT, OTHER THAN MAKING SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE ASK FROM THE RESIDENTS, AND I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THOSE EMAILS WITH THEM.

THANK YOU. JAMES, DID YOU HAVE DID YOU WANT TO GO ON WITH THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT? YES, MA'AM. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE'LL GET TO WORK ON THAT.

AND WE'LL TARGET THAT DECEMBER 2ND MEETING TO HAVE SOMETHING PREPARED FOR YOU ALL TO TAKE ACTION ON.

SO, FOR THE SECOND ITEM, ADAM, IF YOU COULD SET UP THE CLICK SHARE, PLEASE.

THERE WE GO. SO, OBVIOUSLY, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TALKING ABOUT JUST THE EXCELLENT STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE AT THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

AND THEY ARE OFTEN IT'S A GREAT SIGN WHEN YOU'RE RECOGNIZED BY YOUR PEERS AT THE STATE AND NATIONAL LEVEL.

AND WE HAVE A COUPLE OF WORK GROUPS THAT HAVE BEEN HAVE RECEIVED RECOGNITIONS FOR THEIR GREAT WORK AND STARTING OFF OUR COMMUNICATIONS TEAM.

THAT DOES A GREAT JOB.

AND ANYBODY WHO GOES UPSTAIRS, THEY LOOK AT THEIR TROPHY CASE, THEY ASK, IS THAT THE TOWN'S TROPHY CASE? I SAID, NO, THAT'S COMMUNICATIONS TROPHY CASE.

THAT'S HOW MANY AWARDS THEY BRING IN ON A REGULAR BASIS.

AND IF YOU'VE SEEN OUR CONTENT, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB OF LEVERAGING HUMOR AND JUST ENTERTAINMENT AND WRAPPING INTO JUST SOME GREAT MESSAGES ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND YOU CAN SEE OUR VIDEO TEAM THERE, BOTH ADAMS AS WELL AS JACOB THERE.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE AWARDS THAT THEY WON.

THIS IS FOR THE TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF TELECOMMUNICATIONS OFFICERS AND ADVISORS.

YOU SEE A LOT OF FIRST PLACES, A LOT OF SECOND PLACES.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE A LITTLE WE'RE A LITTLE UPSET THAT WE DIDN'T GET FIRST OVERALL BECAUSE WE GOT FIRST IN ALL THE SUBCATEGORIES UNDERNEATH IS SOMEWHAT COUNTERINTUITIVE. HOW DO YOU GET FIRST IN EVERY OTHER CATEGORY AND NOT OVERALL? BUT IT SHOWS THE MENTALITY THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT HAS.

THEY TAKE A LOT OF PRIDE IN WHAT THEY DO.

AND I SAY IT ALL THE TIME THAT WHETHER I'M AT NATIONAL OR STATE CONFERENCES, WHEN I TELL THEM WHERE I'M FROM, THE FIRST THING THEY BRING UP IS OUR CONTENT THAT WE PUT TOGETHER IN OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT, AND THEY JUST DO AN AMAZING JOB.

SO IF YOU'RE EVER IN TOWN HALL, GO UP ON THE SECOND FLOOR.

GO LOOK AT THAT TROPHY CASE.

LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ADDING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MORE AWARDS INTO THAT TROPHY CASE.

BUT JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO POINT OUT THE AMAZING JOB THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT DOES.

NEXT UP WE HAVE OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

AND TRAPS IS AN ACRONYM FOR THE TEXAS RECREATION AND PARKS SOCIETY.

AND WHAT'S REALLY COOL ABOUT THESE TWO AWARDS IS THAT THIS FIRST ONE FOR EXCELLENCE IN MAINTENANCE, AS I RECALL, WE HAD SOME MASSIVE RAINS DURING THE SPRINGTIME AND BASICALLY TWIN COVES WAS COMPLETELY FLOODED OUT.

AND IN THAT SITUATION, YOU KNOW, CHUCK, TRAVIS, DOUG THAT TEAM OUT THERE, THEY HAD TO KIND OF WORK ON THE FLY AND THEY GOT THIS AWARD BECAUSE IF ANYBODY'S BEEN TO TWIN COVES, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE THE CABIN SET UP AND WE BASICALLY HAD TO MOVE THOSE CABINS VERY QUICKLY OR OTHERWISE THEY WOULD BE LOST. YOU KNOW, THEY'D BE SUBMERGED IN THE WATER.

AND I KNOW THAT THAT TEAM WAS WORKING HARD AT IT.

AND THEY ACTUALLY GOT THIS RECOGNITION FOR THE WORK THEY DID IN THIS EMERGENCY SITUATION.

AND THEY WERE ABLE TO COME IN AND MOVE MOST OF THE CABINS OUT OF THE FLOODWAY AND THAT OUT OF THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

AND PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT AN UNDERTAKING THAT WAS.

AND, AND AS THE, AS THE I'M ABOUT TO SAY, RIVER, EXCUSE ME, THE LAKE WATERS RECEDED.

THERE WAS A LOT OF CLEANUP WORK, BUT I HAD THE CHANCE AND I THINK MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL HAD A CHANCE ON THE TOUR.

YOU JUST SAW HOW QUICKLY THEY TURNED THAT AROUND AND GOT THAT BACK TO OPERATIONS.

[00:25:02]

IT'S NOT REALLY HIDDEN, BUT IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE JUST GREAT SERVICES WE PROVIDE THAT ARE SECOND TO NONE.

IT'S NOT JUST VISITORS, BUT IT'S SOMETHING OUR RESIDENTS CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IS A GREAT PLACE FOR A STAYCATION.

BUT THEY GOT THIS AWARD IN EXCELLENCE IN MAINTENANCE FOR THE JOB THEY DID IN THAT EMERGENCY SITUATION WHERE WE QUICKLY HAD TO MOVE.

AND I DON'T KNOW IF DOUG, ARE YOU IN THERE? HOW MANY CABINS DID WE END UP MOVING? FOUR, SO FOUR CABINS, WE HAD TO QUICKLY MOVE OUT OF THE WAY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THEY GOT FLOODED.

AND SO THEY GOT A RECOGNITION FROM THEIR STATE ASSOCIATION FOR THAT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE IS EXCELLENCE IN PROGRAMING AND OUR SENIOR CENTER.

THEY DO AN AMAZING JOB AND THIS IS A REAL COOL PROGRAM THAT THEY WERE AWARDED FOR, WHICH IS A IT'S A T PROGRAM THAT CELEBRATES THE DIVERSITY IN OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR MEMBERS OF THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND AS YOU CAN READ THERE, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TYPICALLY 35 OR 50 MEMBERS ATTENDING THESE SESSIONS, AND THAT'S A GOOD NUMBER.

WE HAVE A LOT OF ENGAGEMENT IN OUR SENIOR CENTER, AND JAMIE AND HER TEAM DO AN AMAZING JOB.

AND I KNOW EVERY TIME THAT I GO TO THE SENIOR CENTER, THERE'S IT'S JUST BUZZING.

AND THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT FOR ANY OF YOUR FACILITIES.

SO IT'S JUST GOOD TO SEE THAT THEY GOT THAT RECOGNITION.

SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE TIME JUST REAL BRIEFLY TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS DOING AND THE RECOGNITION THAT THEY RECEIVE FROM THEIR PEERS, AS WELL AS OUR PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THOSE AWARDS OR ANYTHING.

ALL RIGHT. YEAH. GO TEAM, LIKE I SAID.

GREAT JOB. BUT THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

SO JUST WANTED TO JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU IN THE PUBLIC.

THANK YOU. WELL DONE.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, WE'LL MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]

IS THAT ON A FUTURE AGENDA OR WHAT WAS THE.

IT'S NOT. I THINK THAT IF MEMORY SERVES ME WELL, THAT THE ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD THEMSELVES WAS SUPPOSED TO MAYBE FORM A SUBCOMMITTEE AND KIND OF START TALKING ABOUT WHAT THAT COULD LOOK LIKE AND THEN BRING FORWARD SOME RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO THERE'S SOME SOMETHING TO WORK WITH BASED ON THEIR THOUGHTS AND WHAT THEIR INTERESTS ARE.

AND THEN THEY WOULD DO THE DUE DILIGENCE UNLESS I HAVE THAT WRONG.

DID DID THEY HAVE A MEETING AND HAVE THEY KICKED THAT OFF? I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY'VE MET, BUT YOU DO HAVE A MEMBER THAT YOU DID MEET AND WE DID NOT DISCUSS THAT.

REALLY. SO AND WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER MEETING FOR MONTHS.

SO IF COUNCIL WANTS ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD TO PROCEED FASTER THAN THE NEXT MEETING, I THINK WE WOULD NEED THAT DIRECTIVE AND THEN AN ABILITY TO ADD ANOTHER MEETING.

DOES THAT SOUND RIGHT? IF YOU ALL JUST WANT TO AFFIRM PUBLICLY THAT THAT IS THE INTENT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY CIRCLE BACK TO THEM AND SEE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COMES FORWARD.

AND IRONICALLY, YOU ALL JUST ADOPTED SOMETHING THAT TALKS ABOUT SUBCOMMITTEES AND HOW THAT WORKS.

SO, IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF COUNCIL, WE'RE CERTAINLY HAPPY TO CONVEY AND REITERATE THAT.

YEAH, I'D LIKE THAT.

CHRIS, DO YOU WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING WITH COUNCIL SOONER THAN THAT TO TALK ABOUT EXPANDING THEIR SCOPE? BECAUSE I'D BE OPEN TO THAT.

WE COULD BRING THEM IN AND OR INVITE THEM.

THEY CAN ATTEND. I'M OKAY WITH THAT APPROACH TOO, IF WE CAN.

THEY'RE NOT BOXED IN TO SET MEETINGS SO THEY CAN HAVE A MEETING.

IT'S NOT LIKE, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DAY OF MONTH SO THEY CAN HAVE A MEETING SOONER THAN LATER.

YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR WELL, WOULD WE ORGANIZE THAT THROUGH OUR STAFF LIAISON? YES. WE WOULD COMMUNICATE THAT TO THEM THAT THERE IS A DESIRE FOR COUNCIL TO GET SOMETHING MOVING ON THIS AS FAR AS A TOPIC.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ADD THAT TO THE CONVERSATION OF THE ASK, CAN WE MAKE SURE THAT'S AFTER THEY HAVE THEIR DISCUSSION TO HAVE THAT AS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM? IT WILL BE.

IT WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY COME FORWARD WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY BRING FORWARD.

BUT I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG IT MIGHT TAKE THEM TO DO SOME DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT Y'ALL HAD SOME STUFF FROM GRAPEVINE AND SOME OTHER CITIES THAT THEY MIGHT NEED TO DELVE INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME THAT MIGHT TAKE TO SEE WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

BUT WE CERTAINLY WILL LET THEM KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE INTEREST IN DOING THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU. THERESA, YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION VIA EMAIL ABOUT THIS TOPIC, AND I KNOW THERE WERE SOME LEGAL OPINIONS.

IS IT POSSIBLE THAT WHEN WE HAVE OUR FUTURE WORK SESSION ITEM, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE THOSE ARE REPRESENTED CORRECTLY? ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I KNOW STATUTE HAS SOME SPECIFIC THINGS THAT AN ANIMAL SERVICES BOARD DOES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE AN ANIMAL SHELTER.

SO WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE BEYOND THAT? THAT'S KIND OF THE RUB. YEAH.

AND SO THE CONTEXT BEING LIKE, CAN WE EXPAND THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES AND STILL STAY WITHIN THE STATUTE IF ANOTHER COULD ANOTHER BOARD PICK UP THAT RESPONSIBILITY AND STILL STAY

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SO I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM LEGAL ON THAT BEFORE WE SPEND A LOT OF TIME COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.

AND I'M NOT I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF AS ONE MEMBER.

I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD, BUT IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THOSE WERE THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATUTE AND THAT IT DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY PROHIBIT ADDITIONAL ENDEAVORS. BUT OF COURSE, LEGAL SHOULD WEIGH IN.

AND THEN I'M JUST ONE PERSON, SO I'M NOT REPRESENTING THE WHOLE GROUP IN MY COMMENTS.

OKAY. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR INTO THE DISCUSSION WHEN IT'S NOT A POSTED AGENDA ITEM, BUT IT IS ON, YOU KNOW, ALL BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE ON THERE, SO IT'S NOT TOTALLY OUT OF SCOPE, BUT DEFINITELY SOME THINGS TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS THAT GOES AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND MAYBE EVEN LEGAL PARTICIPATES IN THAT MEETING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT WE'LL WORK THAT OUT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. OKAY.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

NOVEMBER 21ST IS OUR WORK SESSION.

DECEMBER 2ND IS A REGULAR MEETING AND DECEMBER 16TH IS ANOTHER REGULAR MEETING.

EVERYBODY'S CHECKED OFF. TO COME TO THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO ATTEND ALL OF THEM.

I MIGHT BE REMOTE FOR DECEMBER 2ND.

I'M STILL ORGANIZING TRAVEL, BUT OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

SECOND. OKAY THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

ITEMS J ONE THROUGH 13 PASS BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS, K1, THE SENIOR CENTER LIBRARY RENAMING REQUEST IS GOING TO BE PRESENTED BY CHUCK JENNINGS

[K.1. Senior Center Library - Naming Request - Consider approval of the naming request for the library at the Flower Mound Senior Center as the Mary Kay Walker Library. (The Parks Board recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at the November 7, 2024 meeting.)]

SORRY, I ALMOST MISSED YOU.

THANK YOU. MADAM MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.

CHUCK JENNINGS, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

GOOD EVENING. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE TONIGHT, TO KIND OF SET THIS UP FOR JAMIE, WHO'S GOING TO TAKE IT OVER HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, BUT SHE'S GOT AN INCREDIBLE PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE GOING TO SHARE.

ALL THE GREAT CONTRIBUTIONS THAT MISS MARY KAY WALKER MADE TO OUR COMMUNITY THROUGHOUT HER LIFE.

AND I ALSO WANT TO ALSO EXPRESS MY GRATITUDE FOR SOME OF THE MEMBERS OF THE SIM AUXILIARY THAT ARE HERE, AS WELL AS OUR SENIOR CENTER ADVISORY BOARD. AND THEN, OF COURSE, I'D LIKE TO EXTEND A SPECIAL ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO MISS WALKER'S HUSBAND, AL WALKER, AND HER DAUGHTER ROBYN THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT AS WELL.

I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF KNOWING MISS WALKER FOR, LIKE, NEARLY 17 YEARS, AND SHE WAS A TRUE CHAMPION OF PARKS AND RECREATION AND AN UNWAVERING SUPPORTER OF OUR SENIOR CENTER.

HER DEDICATION, HER VOLUNTEERISM, HER PASSION FOR ENHANCING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS, ESPECIALLY THE SENIORS WERE CENTRAL TO HER LIFE'S WORK.

SHE'S DEEPLY MISSED.

BUT HER LEGACY OF MAKING OUR TOWN AN ENJOYABLE, SAFE, AND CONNECTED COMMUNITY FOR SENIORS TO LIVE ON IS JUST AMAZING, AND I WILL ALWAYS REMEMBER AND CHERISH THE MANY CONVERSATIONS AND THAT WE HAD OVER THE YEARS.

YOU KNOW, SHE WAS JUST A GREAT SUPPORTER OF MYSELF AS WELL.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATED OUR FRIENDSHIP.

SO KIND OF BEFORE I HAND IT OVER TO JAMIE TO TALK ABOUT MARY KAY.

I JUST WANT TO KIND OF GO OVER THE PROCESS SO HOW THIS STARTED.

SO, THE PROCESS FOR NAMING PARKS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES OR AREAS WITHIN THOSE FACILITIES IS OUTLINED IN OUR TOWN'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.

AND WHEN THE SIM AUXILIARY SUBMITTED THIS NAMING REQUEST TO STAFF, THAT KIND OF STARTED THE PROCESS AND WE WENT THROUGH ALL THE ESTABLISHED STEPS.

WE STARTED WITH THE ADVISORY BOARD, THE SIM ADVISORY BOARD.

JAMIE PRESENTED IT TO THEM, GOT THEIR OPINION, AND THEY WERE ALL FOR THIS.

SO, THEN THAT LED TO THE NEXT STEP, WHICH WAS TO WORK WITH OUR PARKS BOARD.

OUR CHAIR DEVELOPED A NAMING COMMITTEE OF THREE, THREE MEMBERS.

WE MET WITH THEM, TALKED THROUGH IT, TALKED ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT MARY KAY DID, AND THEY WERE ALL ON BOARD WITH IT.

IT TOOK IT BACK TO THE PARKS BOARD FOR A REGULAR ITEM, PASSED UNANIMOUSLY.

AND THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US TO HERE TONIGHT TO FOR YOU GUYS, FOR YOUR, HOPEFULLY, YOUR APPROVAL OF THIS OF NAMING THE LIBRARY AFTER HER.

SO, WITH ALL TONIGHT, WE RESPECTIVELY SEEK TOWN COUNCIL'S APPROVAL FOR THIS NAMING REQUEST.

AND I'D NOW HAND IT OVER TO JAMIE TO KIND OF GO OVER ALL THE GREAT ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT SHE DID THROUGHOUT HER LIFE IN WORKING WITH US HERE.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, CHUCK, AND THANK YOU, TOWN COUNCIL AND MAYOR FOR ALLOWING ME TO GIVE THIS BRIEF PRESENTATION.

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BUT THE REASON THAT WE ARE REQUESTING TO RENAME THE LIBRARY IS BECAUSE OF ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT SHE DID FOR THE SENIOR CENTER IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SO I WANTED TO OUTLINE WHAT THOSE ARE FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO MAY NOT BE FAMILIAR.

SO MARY KAY WALKER WAS THE FOUNDER AND PRESIDENT OF OUR SIM AUXILIARY BOARD.

IT WAS FOUNDED IN 2009, AND SHE SERVED AS PRESIDENT FROM 2009 UNTIL 2023.

SHE WAS THE ARCHITECT OF NUMEROUS FUNDRAISER AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

AND NOT ONLY DID THIS RAISE MONEY FOR OUR CENTER, BUT THEY WERE ALSO REALLY WONDERFUL COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT WERE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC THAT REALLY GOT THE WORD OUT ABOUT WHAT WE ARE AND, AND OR WHO WE ARE AND WHAT WE DO.

AND THERE ARE MANY FUNDRAISERS THAT WE CONTINUE ON TODAY, LIKE THE ELITE CHEF COMPETITION AND THE SENIOR HEALTH FAIR THAT WILL CONTINUE TO DO THROUGHOUT.

OVER THE TIME SINCE SIMA WAS ESTABLISHED, THEY'VE DONATED OVER 100,000 $100,000 TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

THEY JUST RECENTLY DONATED $14,000 FOR SOME NEW BILLIARDS TABLES.

SO DEFINITELY COME BY AND CHECK THOSE OUT.

BUT THEY HAVE HELPED PURCHASE LIBRARY SHELVES, LOCKERS FOR OUR RESTROOMS. WHEN WE WERE GOING TO PURCHASE A NEW SECOND BUS FOR THE SENIOR CENTER WE WANTED AN UPGRADE.

SO THEY HELPED GIVE US SOME FUNDS SO THAT WE COULD UPGRADE OUR BUS.

AN AMAZING OVEN IN OUR KITCHEN.

AND ALSO, THE PICTURE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT OF THE DONOR TREE IS AN ONGOING FUNDRAISER.

THEY DONATED THE INITIAL $10,000 TO GET THE TREE, BUT WE CAN SELL THE LEAVES AND STONES ON THAT AND MAKE IT AS BIG AS WE NEED IT. SO IT'S A CONTINUAL FUNDRAISER FOR OUR MEMBERS.

AGAIN, WITH THE SOUND SYSTEM, THE TOWN GAVE US MONEY FOR A NEW SOUND SYSTEM FOR OUR BALLROOM, AND WE WANTED MORE.

SO SIMA HELPED US UPGRADE.

AND PART OF THAT WAS TO GET NEW PROJECTOR SCREENS FOR OUR AMAZING PROJECTORS THAT WE HAVE SO OUR MEMBERS CAN READ CLOSED CAPTIONING OR READ PRESENTATIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THERE.

AND THEN OUR ART INSTALLATION SYSTEM, WHICH WAS SOMETHING WE ADDED LAST YEAR, WHICH HAS BEEN A HUGE HIT.

WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO USE THAT TO SHOWCASE SENIORS IN OUR COMMUNITY WHO ARE ARTISTS.

NOT ONLY OUR MEMBERS, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT OUR MEMBERS, AND THEN ALSO DO REALLY, REALLY COOL COMMUNITY ART PROJECTS.

SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT SOMA HAS DONE FOR THE SENIOR CENTER.

BUT IN ADDITION TO HER WORK FOR THE SENIOR CENTER, SHE WAS ALSO VERY, VERY ACTIVE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

SHE SERVED ON THE PARKS BOARD HERE FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

SHE ALSO SERVED ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE COMMISSION.

SHE SERVED ON ALTOGETHER FLOWER MOUND AT TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN.

SHE WAS THE VOLUNTEER COORDINATOR FOR MANY YEARS, AND SHE BROUGHT US A BUNCH OF VOLUNTEERS THROUGH THEM, TOO.

SHE WAS THE MEADOW CROSS TIMBERS HOA TREASURER.

SHE WAS A MEMBER OF THE YOUTH AND FAMILY COUNCIL BOARD.

A MEMBER OF THE RETIRED SENIOR VOLUNTEERS PROGRAM.

AND SHE ALSO BECAME A TEXAS AGRILIFE EXTENSION VOLUNTEER AND TAUGHT SOME CLASSES AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND BEYOND.

AND THEN SHE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE MAGIC GROUP AT THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF LEWISVILLE.

SOME OF THE AWARDS THAT SHE'S RECEIVED, AND I'M SURE THERE ARE MANY MORE.

BUT IN 2014, SHE WAS NAMED ADVOCATE OF THE YEAR BY THE TEXAS PARKS AND RECREATION NORTH REGION IN 2016.

THE CORPORATION FOR NATIONAL COMMUNITY SERVICES PRESIDENT LIFETIME ACHIEVEMENT AWARD.

SHE WAS VERY, VERY PROUD OF THAT.

AND THEN IN 2023, SHE WAS POSTHUMOUSLY, POSTHUMOUSLY NAMED THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND OUTSTANDING CITIZEN OF THE YEAR.

SO BEFORE THESE REASONS, SIMA ASKED THAT WE RENAME OUR LIBRARY AT THE SENIOR CENTER FOR MISS MARY KAY WALKER.

WE DID TAKE THAT TO THE SENIORS IN MOTION ADVISORY BOARD, AND IT WAS APPROVED AND RECOMMENDED BY THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND PARKS BOARD.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT MISS WALKER OR THE LIBRARY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

IT WAS JUST SUCH AN HONOR AND PLEASURE TO KNOW MARY KAY.

AND I KNOW YOU BECAME VERY GOOD FRIENDS WITH HER, AND WE ALL MISS HER VERY MUCH.

BUT IT'S JUST SUCH A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER TO PUSH THIS FORWARD.

YEAH. SHE WAS. I ALWAYS SAID SHE WAS MY WORK MOM.

SHE WAS MY OTHER MOM.

WELL, I WISH I HAD KNOWN HER.

SHE SOUNDS EXTRAORDINARY.

I'D SEEN HER FROM A DISTANCE, BUT DIDN'T REALLY GET TO KNOW HER VERY WELL.

[00:40:03]

WOMAN. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION TO NAME THIS LIBRARY? WELL, I'D BE HONORED IF I COULD DO IT.

I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K ONE SENIOR CENTER LIBRARY NAMING AFTER MARY KAY WALKER.

SECOND. OKAY.

CAN YOU TAKE A ROLL? OKAY. THE FLOWER MOUND SENIOR CENTER, NOW NAMED MARY, THE MARY KAY WALKER LIBRARY IS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND GO ON TO REGULAR ITEM K2.

[K.2. SUP24-0003 - Lakeside Kiddie Academy - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance granting Specific Use Permit No. 492 (SUP24-0003 – Lakeside Kiddie Academy) to permit a day care center use. The property is generally located east of International Parkway and south of Lakeside Parkway. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its November 11, 2024, meeting.) ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS AN SUP REQUEST FOR A DAYCARE CENTER.

THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY IS HERE.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S EAST OF INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY AND SOUTH OF LAKESIDE PARKWAY.

THIS IS KIND OF THAT LAST VACANT TRACK THAT'S OUT THERE NEAR THE HOME DEPOT.

THAT'S THIS LARGE BUILDING HERE.

AND HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S ALREADY BEEN CLEARED IN PREPARATION FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CAMPUS COMMERCIAL AND THE ZONING IS PD 31 WITH CAMPUS COMMERCIAL USES.

HERE IS THE CONCEPT PLAN JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS WE GO INTO THE PICTURES HOW THIS WOULD BE LAID OUT.

HERE AGAIN WE HAVE LAKESIDE PARKWAY TO THE NORTH.

SO HERE IS THE VIEW LOOKING EAST.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING NORTH.

THE LIGHT THE LOT THERE.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING WEST.

AND THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH FROM LAKESIDE PARKWAY.

SO AGAIN THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THE OVERALL BUILDING SQUARE FOOTAGE AS PROPOSED IS 15,151FT².

THAT WOULD INCLUDE APPROXIMATELY 4386FT² OF RETAIL OR OFFICE USE, AND THEN 10,765FT² WOULD BE DEDICATED FOR THE KIDDY ACADEMY DAYCARE.

SO THAT'S SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS TO ALLOW UP TO THIS 10,765FT² FOR THE DAYCARE USE WITHIN THAT OVERALL BUILDING.

AND LOOKING AT PARKING REQUIREMENTS THERE WOULD BE USING THE TOWN'S NORMAL STANDARD OF ONE SPACE PER FOUR PEOPLE ACCOMMODATED.

THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT AND WITH 188 PEOPLE ACCOMMODATED, THERE WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT FOR 65 PARKING SPACES.

THEY ARE PROVIDING 52 SPACES AND THAT IS WITHIN THE 20% OR 20% PLUS OR MINUS THAT THE TOWN ALLOWS.

SO THEY'RE NOT NEEDING TO ASK FOR A DEVIATION THERE SO THEY ARE ABLE TO MEET THOSE PARKING STANDARDS.

HERE'S THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN.

THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS.

CAN SEE SOME OF THIS BUFFER BEING PROVIDED HERE ALONG THE NORTH NEAR LAKESIDE PARKWAY AS WELL AS PARKING LOT TREES BEING PROVIDED.

THEY ARE ALSO PROPOSING TO HAVE A FENCED IN PLAY AREA.

HERE ARE SOME OF THE ELEVATIONS THEY HAVE PROPOSED FOR THE WEST AND THE NORTH.

IT'S MEETING THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

IT ALSO COORDINATES WITH THE OVERALL HOME DEPOT DEVELOPMENT.

AND HERE ARE THE EAST AND SOUTH ELEVATIONS.

THERE AGAIN THEY'RE USING STUCCO, NATURAL STONE AND BRICK VENEER.

THERE IS ONE CONDITION THAT'S PROPOSED FOR THIS.

IT'S THAT QUEUING FOR PICKUP AND DROP OFF WILL NOT BE PERMITTED.

SO ALL PICKUP AND DROP OFF TRAFFIC IS REQUIRED TO UTILIZE PARKING SPACES.

THEY DIDN'T REALLY DESIGN A QUEUING LANE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

THEY DID HAVE A SEPARATE PARKING STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED BY THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER TO ENSURE THAT DURING PICK UP AND DROP OFF TIMES, THERE WOULD BE ADEQUATE SPACES FOR ALL THE EXPECTED PARENT PARKING SO THAT THE QUEUING WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.

SO THAT WAS REVIEWED AND WAS NOT A PROBLEM.

SO WE WOULD JUST STAFF WOULD PROPOSE TO ADD THAT CONDITION WHICH THE APPLICANT IS IN SUPPORT OF.

SO THERE AGAIN IS THE CONCEPT PLAN.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE WITH THE PRESENTATION.

[00:45:08]

SO IF ANYBODY HAS PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER THE AFTER THE PRESENTATION. GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU, MAYOR MOORE, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR ALLOWING US TO PRESENT HERE.

I'M GOING TO KEEP IT BRIEF, AS BRIEF AS I POSSIBLY CAN.

WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A TYPICAL ELEVATION OR RENDERING OF THE OF A KIDDY ACADEMY BUILDING.

AS YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN, WE'VE TAILORED THE ELEVATIONS TO BE MORE COMPLIANT WITH WHAT THE SPECIFIC GUIDELINES ARE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.

REITERATION OF THE SITE PLAN.

AS MENTIONED, OUR PORTION OF THE BUILDING WOULD BE 10,765 WITH A 4500 SQUARE FOOT PLAYGROUND THAT WILL BE DIVIDED INTO 2 OR 3 SEPARATE AREAS FOR PRE-K AND INFANT TODDLER, POTENTIALLY A THIRD FOR SCHOOL AGE.

HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS THAT WERE PROVIDED EARLIER, JUST AS A REITERATION.

KIDDY ACADEMY BRAND IS OVER 40 YEARS OLD AT THIS POINT AND GROWING.

WE HAVE, AS IT SAYS THERE, 343.

I THINK WE'RE ACTUALLY UP TO 345 AS OF TODAY.

40 STATES PLUS WASHINGTON, D.C.

WE THIS LOCATION WILL JOIN ONE OF 15 THAT'S CURRENTLY OPEN IN THE METROPLEX AREA.

I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 3 OR 4 THAT ARE IN VARIOUS STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT BY POTENTIALLY THE MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR WOULD BE ONLINE AND OPEN FOR BUSINESS.

WE HAVE A VERY STRONG PRESENCE IN TEXAS.

OBVIOUSLY THE METROPLEX, BUT ALSO DOWN IN THE HOUSTON AREA AS WELL.

THE LIFE ESSENTIALS CURRICULUM IS.

HAS AN ADVISORY BOARD THAT TAKES ALL OF THE LATEST STUDIES AND INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO TAILOR IT TO THE CHILDREN, TO THE STUDENTS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING TO MAKE THE BEST USE OF OUR CURRICULUM.

EACH LOCATION IS OWNER OPERATED, SO WE ARE NOT A CORPORATE FRANCHISE.

WE ARE THE FRANCHISOR, BUT WE SUPPORT EACH INDIVIDUAL OWNER.

WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF MULTI-UNIT OWNERS, BUT IT'S UP TO THEM TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE OUR CURRICULUM AND RUN WITH IT, WHICH THEY'VE DONE SUCCESSFULLY.

IN KEEPING WITH THE THEME OF TONIGHT, WE'RE HERE TO BUILD COMMUNITY, AND SO WE JUST LOOK FORWARD TO BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY AS BEST AS WE CAN.

AS I MENTIONED, ALL LOCALLY OWNED AND OPERATED, WE ARE LICENSED THROUGH NASA, WHICH IS THE NATIONAL ACCREDITATION.

I DON'T RECALL THE NUMBER OF ACADEMIES, BUT WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF RETROACTIVELY ACCREDITING ALL OF OUR ACADEMIES TO BE TO ACTUALLY GET OFFICIAL NASA ACCREDITATION.

HOURS OF OPERATION IS 630 TO 630.

WE HAVE WHAT'S CALLED A ROLLING START TIME.

SO UNLIKE A TRADITIONAL PUBLIC SCHOOL, WE'RE NOT AT A SPECIFIC SET START TIME, WHICH ALLOWS US TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.

HAVE WE CAN ADDRESS PARKING IN A MUCH MORE EFFICIENT MANNER.

SO IT'S A PARABOLIC CURVE, IF YOU CAN IMAGINE WHERE THE STUDENTS WILL SHOW UP WHENEVER THE CAREGIVER IS THE BIGGEST NEEDS ARE AND WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE 100% OF THE TEACHERS THERE AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT IS SAME FOR THE DROP OFF AND THE PICKUP OF THE STUDENTS AS WELL.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE INFANT TO FIVE YEAR OLD.

AS I MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE AN AFTER SCHOOL COMPONENT OR A BEFORE SCHOOL COMPONENT FROM 5 TO 12.

THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED BASED ON NEED FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AS MENTIONED IN THE STAFF PRESENTATION, WE DO NOT ENCOURAGE A QUEUE FOR MANY REASONS, MOST OF WHICH ARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS YOU MAY SHARE IN TERMS OF QUEUING UP OF CARS TO GET IN THE WAY OF THE ADJACENT TRAFFIC.

SO WE REQUIRE EACH CAREGIVER TO PARK THEIR VEHICLE.

WE FIND THAT PARKING SPACES TURN OVER ABOUT SIX TIMES AN HOUR IN THAT REGARD ABOUT EVERY TEN MINUTES, WHICH ACCORDING TO THE PARKING PROJECTION THAT WE DO, IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL TRAFFIC STUDY, BUT WE DO THIS FOR EVERY LOCATION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE OKAY WITH WHAT THE TOWN IS REQUIRING.

WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT 25 MAX CARS ON SITE AT THE PEAK TIME, AND THAT INCLUDES CAREGIVERS AND STAFF.

AS I MENTIONED, THE STAFF WOULD SHOW UP AS NEEDED.

A LOT OF OUR THAT WOULD BE AT 100% CAPACITY TAKING AND NOT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THAT THERE ARE MULTIPLE SIBLINGS IN, IN IN MULTIPLE FAMILY MEMBERS PER CAR IN SOME INSTANCES.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE ATTRITION FROM SICKNESS OR VACATION OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE AS WELL.

WE TAKE SAFETY VERY SERIOUSLY.

[00:50:03]

THE GATES AND DOORS HAVE DELAYED EGRESS PANIC HARDWARE ON THEM FOR TO NOTIFY IF ANYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO RUN OUT.

AND I CAN TELL YOU, WHEN I WAS THAT AGE, I WAS ONE OF THOSE LITTLE ONES WHO WAS TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

SECURITY CAMERAS AND THEN THE PERIMETER FENCE AROUND THE PLAYGROUND WILL BE FIVE FEET AROUND THE REST OF THE BUILDING.

THAT'S NOT PLAYGROUND WOULD BE A FOUR FOOT PICKETED EITHER STEEL OR ALUMINUM FENCE.

AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE.

I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

I'VE ALSO BROUGHT A ROSTER OF ENGINEERS, ARCHITECTS, THE FRANCHISEE, AND ANYBODY ELSE YOU CAN PROBABLY DREAM UP TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION.

I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION AND IT'S BACK.

IF YOU COULD PUT THE SITE PLAN UP.

SO I THINK LEXIN YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE A RETAIL SPACE, A FUTURE RETAIL SPACE.

IS THAT RIGHT IN THE UPPER LEFT HAND CORNER OF THIS? THIS PORTION IS RETAIL.

SO FOR ME THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE MORE UNIQUE TO BE ADJACENT OR CONNECTED TO A DAYCARE FACILITY.

HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF RETAIL WOULD BE OCCUPIED THERE? AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE GENERAL PUBLIC IN AND AROUND THE DAYCARE FACILITY, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS OVER THAT? I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NATURE OF THE RETAIL ITSELF HAS BEEN VETTED COMPLETELY.

WE DON'T HAVE A CONCERN BECAUSE IT WILL BE FULLY SEPARATED BOTH FROM AN INTERIOR, BUT ALSO THE GATES AND THE ACCESS POINTS WOULD BE HIGHLY MONITORED.

OKAY. MAYBE A NICE COMPATIBILITY WOULD BE A TUTORING CENTER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SO YOU COULD OR A DANCE STUDIO OR SOMETHING THAT THE KIDS WOULD BE INTERESTED INTO.

BUT THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAD. WELL, I WANT TO JUST BUILD ON THAT.

WE TYPICALLY TRY TO POSITION OURSELVES NEAR PEDIATRIC.

OH, SURE. DENTISTRY OR PHYSICIANS OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SWIM ACADEMIES, TUTORING WOULD ALSO BE A COMMON PARTNER OF OURS AS WELL.

AND LEXIN, WOULD THERE BE A PROBLEM WITH LIKE A DENTAL OR A PEDIATRIC OFFICE THAT WOULD STILL BE ALLOWED AS A MEDICAL FACILITY THERE? RIGHT. THE PROPERTY IS ACTUALLY ZONED CAMPUS COMMERCIAL.

SO ALL THE ALL RETAIL USES WOULD BE ALLOWED.

THANK YOU. I HOPE I DIDN'T OPEN A CAN OF WORMS. NO, NO. WELL, NO, IT'S OKAY.

BUT BETTER TO TALK ABOUT IT NOW AND GET IT TAKEN CARE OF IF NEED BE.

SO I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING SET IN STONE.

THE LANDLORD WOULD IS IN THE VERY IS IN THE BEGINNING STAGES OF DISCOVERY ON THAT PIECE AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU.

I KNOW A STARBUCKS WOULD DO WELL THERE AS WELL.

YEAH, ALWAYS.

I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE FOUR FEET PERIMETER FENCE.

JUST WHY A PERIMETER FENCE OUTSIDE OF THE PLAY AREA? ARE THE KIDS GOING TO BE ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING? IT'S MORE FOR IT'S A DUAL PURPOSE TO KEEP UNWANTED VISITORS OUT.

BUT ALSO IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, IT'S TO GIVE THE TEACHERS A CHANCE TO.

THERE'S A TRANSITION FROM THE CLASSROOM TO THE PLAYGROUND.

AND SOMETIMES IF THE CORRIDOR IS NOT BEING USED, THERE'S TWO EGRESS POINTS FROM EVERY CLASSROOM AND ONE OF THOSE IS DIRECTLY TO OUTSIDE.

SO IF THE TEACHER DECIDES TO BRING THE KIDS OUT OF THE CLASSROOM TO CIRCUMNAVIGATE THE BUILDING, THEY WANT TO HAVE AN AREA THAT THEY CAN KIND OF KEEP THE CONTAINMENT.

AS I SAID, I WAS ONE OF THOSE KIDS THAT JUST WANTED TO RUN OFF, AND THE FENCE WOULD BE A GOOD FIRST LINE OF DEFENSE ON THAT.

WE ALSO DO HAVE WHAT'S CALLED AN AREA OF REFUGE THAT IS 50FT CLEAR OF THE BUILDING.

SO IN AN EMERGENCY, IT WOULD BE WHERE THERE WOULD BE A KNOWN GATHERING POINT THAT WOULD NOT BE NEAR A IF, YOU KNOW, GOD FORBID, IF THE BUILDING IS ON FIRE, IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY AND THERE'S AN EGRESS OUT OF THE PLAYGROUND THAT WOULD ALLOW THEM TO EXIT THAT ONCE EVERYBODY GETS ORGANIZED AND IS SORT OF ACCOUNTED FOR.

SO IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF ALL OF THE ABOVE, BUT CERTAINLY MORE ON A NORMAL BASIS, A TRANSITIONAL A WAY TO, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A MORE ORDERLY FASHION.

AND I'M SURE DURING THE BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS AND INSPECTION, IF THE MEANS REQUIRED MEANS OF EGRESS WERE IMPEDED BY THE FENCE, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET AS FAR AWAY FROM THE BUILDING AS POSSIBLE.

YOU WOULD ALL WOULD ADDRESS THAT AND DISCUSS THAT AS IT CAME UP.

YES. BUILDING INSPECTIONS WOULD REVIEW EGRESS AND INGRESS.

GREAT, THANKS. IN MY REVIEW OF PLANS, I'M CONSTANTLY SAYING WE'RE GOING TO TURN THIS GATE THE OTHER WAY SO THAT IT'S IN THE DIRECTION OF EGRESS.

SO ABSOLUTELY GLAD TO HEAR IT.

KEEP IN MIND. OKAY.

MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST NEED YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES, PLEASE.

I PRACTICED THAT BEFORE I STOOD UP, AND I TOTALLY SPACED ON THAT.

BRIAN JOHNSTON 3415 BOX HILL CORPORATE CENTER DRIVE, ABINGTON, MARYLAND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE PRESENTATION.

WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS TO THE PUBLIC.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY COMMENTS THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE ON THIS?

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SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE THAT.

AND COUNCIL HAVE ANYTHING THEY WANT TO MAKE COMMENTS ON? OR DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND MAKE A MOTION? I'M READY WITH THE MOTION.

OKAY. MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K TWO AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA. IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL ON THAT.

COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE.

MAYOR PRO TEM. MARTIN. AYE.

DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.

AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER.

WARNER. AYE. OKAY.

LAKESIDE KIDDY ACADEMY PASSES BY.

UNANIMOUS VOTE. CONGRATULATIONS.

ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON.

[Items K.3. & K.4.]

THREE AND FOUR WILL OPEN BOTH OF THESE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON WAGE ROAD NURSING OR CONGREGATE FACILITY.

THANK YOU MAYOR. AS MENTIONED THIS IS BOTH A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

CAN SEE THAT IT IS SOUTH OF KIRKPATRICK AND WEST OF GARDEN RIDGE BOULEVARD.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY, THIS BUILDING WAS BUILT BACK IN I THINK 2010.

IT WAS APPROVED FOR AN SUP IN 2009 FOR A NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY.

THE PROPERTY IS, AS YOU CAN SEE, ZONED AG, AND AT THAT TIME A NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY WAS AN ALLOWED USE WITH AN SUP IN AG.

BACK IN 2021 COUNCIL GAVE STAFF DIRECTION TO CHANGE THAT.

TO NO LONGER ALLOW NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE WITH AN SUP IN EITHER A STATE WHICH IS THE LAND USE, OR AG WHICH IS THE CURRENT ZONING DISTRICT FOR THE PROPERTY. SO WITH THAT CHANGE, THEN ALTHOUGH THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY AN SUP APPROVED AT THIS LOCATION FOR THE NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY, IT CEASED TO OPERATE IN THAT MANNER.

AND IT EITHER WAS USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES OR WAS VACANT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS.

SO IT'S BEEN MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.

WHERE IT WAS NOT OPERATED AS THAT USE AFTER THE TIME THAT THE TOWN'S CODE CHANGED SO THAT PREVIOUS SUP OR THAT PREVIOUS, IT'S NOW CONSIDERED A LEGAL. IT WAS A LEGALLY NONCONFORMING USE ONCE THE CODE CHANGED.

BUT SO THAT'S NOW DISCONTINUED BECAUSE THAT IF YOU GO MORE THAN SIX MONTHS, THEN YOU'RE NO LONGER ALLOWED TO OPERATE A NONCONFORMING USE.

IF YOU DON'T USE IT FOR SIX MONTHS OR MORE.

SO THAT'S WHY THE APPLICANT IS NOW COMING FORWARD TO REQUEST A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND ZONING CHANGE TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTIES, BOTH LAND USE AND ZONING TO OFFICE, BECAUSE THAT IS THE MOST RESTRICTIVE DISTRICT WITHIN THE TOWN'S CODE CURRENTLY THAT WOULD ALLOW NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE AS A USE LEXIN.

HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT THEY WERE NOT USING THIS UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SUP FOR SIX MONTHS? WELL BECAUSE THE, A DIFFERENT CO WAS ISSUED FOR A DIFFERENT USE BESIDES NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE.

AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENED FOR MORE THAN SIX MONTHS.

SO, WHAT THAT BY CHANCE DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT CO WAS ISSUED.

WHAT USE. IT WAS THERE WAS ONE THAT WAS ISSUED FOR A DAY CAMP FOR CHILDREN.

AND THEN THERE WAS, THERE WAS ANOTHER USE THAT WAS OPERATING OR HAD SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS EVER APPROVED BECAUSE THEY WERE TRYING TO DO A MEDICAL OFFICE TYPE USE.

BUT ANYWAY, SO THERE WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS BETWEEN WHEN IT WAS OPERATED AS NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE.

SO IN SOME CASES, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT TOTALLY CLEAR WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY BEEN SIX MONTHS AND NOT IN THAT USE.

BUT IN THIS CASE IT WAS PRETTY CLEAR BECAUSE THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CO FOR A DIFFERENT USE ISSUED AFTER THAT TIME.

SO FOR OTHER WE HAVE OTHER CASES WHERE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS HAVE DEVELOPED AS NURSING HOMES AND THEY'RE ALSO NON-CONFORMING.

BUT SOMETIMES THE BUILDINGS ARE PURPOSE BUILT AND THEY'RE REALLY ONLY APPLICABLE TO THAT ONE USE.

WHAT IF IS IT MUSTANG, THE ONE ON COLLEGE? WHAT IF THEY WERE TO STOP USING IT AS A NURSING HOME, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WE'VE GOT THIS BUILDING THAT CAN ONLY BE REALLY USED FOR THAT.

WHAT? HOW WOULD THEY MAKE SURE THAT.

WHAT WOULD THEY DO IN THAT CASE? SO MUSTANG CREEK WAS IN A DIFFERENT SITUATION BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY DID A PLAN DEVELOPMENT AND CHANGED THEIR ZONING THROUGH THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO IN THIS CASE, THE UNDERLYING ZONING STAYED AG AND THE APPLICANT HAD REQUESTED AN SUP FOR A NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE USE, BUT THE BASE ZONING WAS STILL AG AND WHATEVER USES ARE ALLOWED IN AG.

SO WHEN THE TOWN'S CODE CHANGED TO NO LONGER ALLOW THIS USE IN AG, WHETHER WITH OR WITHOUT AN SUP, IT BECAME A LEGALLY NON-CONFORMING USE.

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THAT WAS SOMETHING THEY COULD DO AT THE TIME BECAUSE AGAIN, AT THE TIME THAT THAT APPLICATION CAME FORWARD, IT WAS ALLOWED IN AG WITH AN SUP.

BUT THE TOWN HAS ALWAYS ALLOWED, IF SOMEONE HAS A, A SPECIFIC USE THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO ON A PROPERTY, THEY ALREADY KNOW WHEN THEY'RE COMING FORWARD WITH THE ZONING WILL, WE WILL ALLOW THEM TO MAKE THAT A USE BY RIGHT SUBJECT TO THE PLANS AND THE CONDITIONS OF THAT PD, RATHER THAN DOING A PD AND A SEPARATE SUP APPLICATION CONCURRENTLY.

IT'S JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS.

SO IN THAT CASE THEY DID IT WHERE NOT THROUGH AN SUP.

THEY ACTUALLY SAID DID A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT MADE THAT AN ALLOWED USE IN THEIR ZONING.

SO THAT WILL CONTINUE TO BE ALLOWED IN THEIR ZONING.

REGARDLESS OF IF THAT BUILDING CLOSES, SOMEBODY ELSE COULD COME IN AND STILL OPERATE IT FOR THE SAME USE IN THE FUTURE.

SO LET ME MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

SO AN SUP DOES NOT CONVEY VESTED RIGHTS IN PERPETUITY.

ONCE YOU STOP USING IT UNDER THE TERMS OF THE SUP, THEN YOUR RIGHTS ARE NO LONGER VALID AND IT CONVERTS BACK TO ITS BASE ZONING.

BUT IF YOU DO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT CONVEYS VESTED RIGHTS IN PERPETUITY UNDER THE TERMS OF THAT PLAN DEVELOPMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? I'M NOT SURE VESTED RIGHTS IS THE RIGHT TERM TO USE.

WHEN I TALKED TO BRYN, HE SAID, THIS ISN'T REALLY VESTED RIGHTS.

IT'S MORE A QUESTION OF, YOU KNOW, LEGAL NONCONFORMITY VERSUS ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT. BUT IN GENERAL, I THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT MESSAGE THERE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU STILL IF YOU DON'T CHANGE THE UNDERLYING ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY AND IT JUST KEEPS THE TOWN'S BASE CODE, IF YOU CHANGE THE TOWN'S BASE CODE TO NO LONGER MAKE THAT AN ALLOWED USE, THEN IT'S LEGAL NONCONFORMING.

WHEREAS IF YOU ACTUALLY CHANGE THE ZONING OF A PROPERTY TO SAY THIS USE IS ALLOWED IN THIS ZONING DISTRICT, NOW THAT STAYS IN PLACE FOREVER UNLESS SOMEBODY APPLIES TO AMEND THE ZONING.

THIS IS THE EXAMPLE WHEN WE HAD THAT DISCUSSION OF THE PIZZA PLACE AND LIKE IN OFFICE, DISTRICT AND OFFICE DOESN'T ALLOW PIZZA.

SO AS LONG AS YOU KEEP DOING PIZZA YOU'RE GOOD.

BUT AS SOON AS YOU THE PIZZA PLACE CLOSES SIX MONTHS LATER, YOU CAN'T REOPEN A PIZZA PLACE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO A PD IN THAT CASE.

BUT IF THEY HAD DONE A PD HERE, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO REOPEN AS A NURSING HOME FOREVER.

BUT THAT WAS NEVER THAT.

DUE DILIGENCE WAS NEVER DONE.

SO NOW IT'S CONVERTED BACK TO BASE ZONING.

YES. OKAY. UNDERSTOOD.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SO AS MENTIONED, IT IS A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT.

HERE'S JUST THAT MASTER PLAN EXHIBIT.

IT WOULD BE GOING FROM ESTATE TO OFFICE FOR THE LAND USE.

THERE IS ALSO AN EXCEPTION THAT'S BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS AND IT'S FOR THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER.

AND AGAIN IT JUST HAS TO DO WITH TRYING TO MATCH HOW THE PROPERTY WAS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

WHEN THE SUP WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED IN 2009, IT WAS APPROVED WITH AN EXCEPTION TO THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER REQUIREMENTS, SO A MASONRY WALL WAS NOT BUILT AND THAT 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAS NOT PUT IN AT THAT TIME.

SO THEY ARE JUST ASKING TO CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE BUILDING AS IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED.

HERE'S THE CONCEPTUAL SITE PLAN.

SO THE PROPERTY IS A LITTLE OVER 4600FT².

IS THAT ACTUAL BUILDING? SORRY. THE PROPERTY ITSELF IS A LITTLE LESS THAN AROUND 1.1 AND A HALF ACRES, AND THERE ARE NINE PARKING SPACES CURRENTLY ON THE SITE.

THEY ARE PROPOSING 16 BEDS, AND SO THE TOWN'S STANDARD FOR ASSISTED LIVING TYPE USE, NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY IS TWO PARKING SPACES FOR EVERY THREE BEDS.

SO IN THIS CASE THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 11 SPACES.

NINE SPACES IS WITHIN THAT PLUS OR -20%.

SO THEIR PARKING DOES MEET THE STANDARDS.

THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANY CHANGES TO THE SITE, EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO MAKE THIS CONNECTION RIGHT HERE.

THERE'S A PIECE OF SIDEWALK THAT'S MISSING THERE ON THE PROPERTY ALONG WAGER ROAD, SO THEY'RE GOING TO CONNECT THAT.

HERE'S SOME PICTURES FROM THE SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING EAST FROM WAGER ROAD.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING SOUTH FROM KIRKPATRICK.

THIS IS LOOKING WEST ACROSS GARDEN RIDGE.

SO AGAIN HERE'S THAT CONCEPT PLAN.

THE PROPOSED.

SO THESE WERE THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WENT TO P AND Z.

AND SO ONE OF THEM IS TO DO KIND OF WHAT WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT RATHER THAN MAKING THIS AN SP USE, IT'S TO ACTUALLY MAKE IT BE A USE BY RIGHT THROUGH THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING THAT NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY WOULD BE A USE BY RIGHT WITHIN THIS ZONING, A SUPPLEMENTARY STANDARD IS THAT

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SO THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE MEETING THE INTENT OF THE TOWN'S COMPATIBILITY BUFFER STANDARD.

NORMALLY, WE WOULD NOT ALLOW THOSE LIGHTS TO BE LOCATED WITHIN A COMPATIBILITY BUFFER.

SO THIS WAY, EVEN IF COUNCIL GRANTS THE EXCEPTION TO NOT PROVIDE THAT COMPATIBILITY BUFFER, THEY ARE STILL COMMITTING TO NOT PUTTING ANY LIGHTING WITHIN THAT AREA SO THAT IT WON'T BOTHER THE ADJACENT NEIGHBOR.

SO SOME OF THE CHANGE THAT CAME FORWARD AFTER THE DISCUSSION WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

SO THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS THAT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE APPLICANT IS PLANNING TO USE THIS AS A NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY, BUT THE UNDERLYING ZONING WOULD BE OFFICE. AND SO THE OTHER USES THAT ARE ALLOWED IN OFFICE DISTRICT, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THESE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE REST OF THE PLANS, THE CONCEPT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN, ELEVATIONS, IT COULD ALLOW OTHER USES AS WELL.

AND SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BEST TO LIMIT THAT SOME SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST ALL USES.

AND SO STAFF WENT THROUGH THIS AND ALSO TALKED WITH THE APPLICANT.

SO THIS WAS THE PROPOSED LIST OF USES THAT WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE ORDINANCE.

THAT'S BEFORE COUNCIL.

YOU KNOW IN TALKING TO P AND Z, THEY WERE THEY DIDN'T HAVE AN EXACT LIST JUST BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO ENSURE THAT IT INCLUDED IN GENERAL, THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WOULD HAVE TO BE ALLOWED IF REQUIRED FOR SOME REASON, LIKE A FIRE STATION OR, OR A LOCAL UTILITY LINE AS WELL AS JUST ACCESSORY USES.

AND THEN ALSO THINGS LIKE SCHOOL RELIGIOUS FACILITY, THAT SORT OF THING, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TELEPHONE EQUIPMENT STATION.

THINGS LIKE THAT. SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS ACCESSORY RETAIL SERVICE USES ACCESSORY USE, GENERAL BUILDING MATERIAL, YARD AND CONSTRUCTION OFFICE TOWN. SO THAT'S SPECIFIC TO IF THE TOWN IS NEEDING TO STORE ANY MATERIAL THERE FOR SOME SORT OF ROAD OR, YOU KNOW, CIP PROJECT THAT WE'RE WORKING ON COMMUNITY CENTER, PUBLIC CUSTOM PERSONAL SERVICE, FIRE STATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, LOCAL UTILITY LINE OFFICE, GENERAL BUSINESS AND PROFESSIONAL OFFICE, MEDICAL AND DENTAL PARK OR PLAYGROUND, PUBLIC PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES.

RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY.

INSTITUTION. DIRECTORY SCHOOL.

BUSINESS SCHOOL. ELEMENTARY OR SECONDARY SEWAGE PUMP STATION.

SOLAR PANEL SYSTEMS. THAT'S AN ACCESSORY TELEPHONE EQUIPMENT STATION OR TRAVEL BUREAU CONSULTANT.

AND THEN AS WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT, THEY STILL WANT TO MAKE NURSING OR CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT. AND THEN THESE WOULD BE THE ONLY USES THAT WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO REQUEST AN SUP.

THEY'RE NOT AUTOMATICALLY BEING APPROVED BY THIS ORDINANCE, BUT THEY WOULD BE THE ONES THAT THE TYPE OF USES THAT COULD BE REQUESTED IN THE FUTURE.

DAYCARE CENTER, COMMUNICATION TOWER, TRANSMISSION PIPELINE, VET HOSPITAL WITH INSIDE PENS AND PRIVATE FRANCHISE UTILITY NOT LISTED.

SO HERE IS THE CONCEPTUAL LANDSCAPE PLAN IN THE.

PRETTY MUCH JUST USING THIS AS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

I THINK THERE WERE SOME TREES THAT HAD DIED AND WHILE THE PROPERTY WASN'T REALLY BEING USED, SO THOSE ARE BEING REPLACED.

HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING.

THIS IS SOUTH AND EAST ELEVATION, AND HERE WE HAVE NORTH AND WEST.

PROPERTY DOES MEET THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES.

NO CONCERN WITH ITS DESIGN.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE SITE PLAN.

I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL.

THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION LEXIN.

DO YOU MIND GOING BACK TO SLIDE 13? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR TOO BECAUSE SO ON THIS ONE WE'RE THERE'S A LOT OF POTENTIAL HERE.

BUT THE APPLICANT JUST WANTS THE NURSING HOME CONVALESCENT CARE.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN JUST GIVE THAT APPROVAL.

APPROVAL. APPROVAL FOR THAT USE TONIGHT, OR DO WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP TO THESE OTHER USES AS WELL? YOU CAN LIMIT THIS AS MUCH AS YOU WANT TO.

I WILL SAY A LOT OF THESE ARE THINGS THAT OR I DON'T NECESSARILY THINK ARE NECESSARILY LIKELY TO HAPPEN, BUT IT'S MORE JUST INSTITUTIONAL TYPE USES, WHETHER IT'S YOU KNOW, LIKE TELEPHONE EQUIPMENT, STATIONS, SEWAGE PUMP STATION, PARK OR PLAYGROUND, A LOCAL UTILITY LINE, FIRE STATION, COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO ALL OF THOSE THINGS, I WOULDN'T TAKE OFF THE LIST.

THOSE ARE IN CASE WHATEVER.

THERE'S SOME STRANGE CIRCUMSTANCE IN THE FUTURE WHERE, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT AND SOME SORT OF FRANCHISE UTILITY OR THE TOWN NEEDS TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY AND WANTS TO PUT IN SOME OF THESE THINGS TO NOT HAVE TO GO BACK AND AMEND THE ZONING.

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THESE ARE TO PROTECT FUTURE PUBLIC INTERESTS.

BUT FOR ANY OF THESE OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO ELIMINATE, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING YOU CAN DO.

AND IF THERE'S ANY YOU'RE NOT SURE ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO ASK ME KIND OF WHAT IS THIS REALLY REFERRING TO OR THAT SORT OF THING.

OKAY, MAYBE WE CAN COME BACK TO THAT AFTER THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION.

OKAY, I DID WELL, SINCE YOU BROUGHT IT UP, K WAS THE ONE I'D LIKE YOU TO EXPAND ON A LITTLE BIT THE PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICES.

YEAH. PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT, THAT IS, IT WOULD TYPICALLY BE LIKE A HAIR SALON OR FACIAL SPA TYPE PLACE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. WHAT WAS THE ACCESSORY USE? DID YOU SAY THAT ACCESSORY IS JUST I WOULD ALLOW ACCESSORY.

THAT'S JUST TO ALLOW ANYTHING THAT'S KIND OF A TYPICALLY CONSIDERED AN ACCESSORY TO WHATEVER THE, THE PRIMARY USE IS.

BUT THAT'S KIND OF VAGUE, ISN'T IT? I MEAN, IT COULD BE JUST ABOUT ANYTHING.

I MEAN, THAT'S HOW THE REST OF THE TOWN OPERATES, BASICALLY.

SO I MEAN, YOU WOULDN'T HAVE SOMEBODY THAT I DON'T THINK YOU WOULD HAVE AN ACCESSORY USE THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR WHATEVER THE PRIMARY USE IS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT LIKE SOMEBODY'S GOING TO HAVE A, AN ASSISTED LIVING, BUT THEN IN THE CORNER, OPEN UP A SODA SHOP OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S ACTUALLY CONSIDERED ACCESSORY RELATED TO THE PRIMARY USE.

I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIMIT THAT IN A WAY THAT IS TRULY FUNCTIONAL.

OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

VERY GOOD. AND IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

MY NAME IS ROB GLENN.

I'M THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT.

THIS IS MY NAME IS KENNETH LYNN, I LIVE AT 2840 CLEAR CREEK DRIVE, ROCKWALL.

AND HE IS THE MANAGING MEMBER OF THE LLC THAT OWNS THE PROPERTY.

THE GOAL OF THIS IS TO PROVIDE A HIGH QUALITY, COMMUNITY FOCUSED, SAFE AND ACCESSIBLE ASSISTED LIVING OPTION FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND.

THE NEED FOR ASSISTED LIVING IS JUST GROWING DAY BY DAY.

AS OUR POPULATION GETS OLDER AND SUCH, THESE SMALL, VERY FOCUSED, HIGH QUALITY CARE IS SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS.

IT'S LOCAL, SO IT WILL BE CLOSE TO THE RESIDENTS TO COME VISIT THEIR LOVED ONES THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE EMPLOY MORE PEOPLE.

RIGHT NOW, IT'S BEING USED AS AN ASSISTED LIVING, AS A RESIDENCE, UNDER THE RESIDENCE, UNDER THE ZONING AGRICULTURAL.

I THINK IT'S GOT FOUR RESIDENTS NOW, AND IT CAN HAVE UP TO SIX.

AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO REQUEST IS THAT IT BE CONVERTED TO ALLOW US TO CONVERT IT TO A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY THAT WILL ALLOW 16 BEDS. NOW, THE MOST CARS PROBABLY THAT WILL BE THE EMPLOYEES.

THE PEOPLE LIVING THERE PROBABLY ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE ANY CARS SINCE THEY'RE IN ASSISTED CARE.

THE TRAFFIC WILL MOSTLY BE IN THE DAYTIME OR WORKING HOURS.

THERE'S NOT ANY LIMITATIONS AS FAR AS I KNOW, AS FAR AS THE VISITING HOURS, BUT WE DON'T ANTICIPATE A HIGH VOLUME OF VISITING HOURS LATE AT NIGHT.

SO THIS IS NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY INCREASE ANY KIND OF TRAFFIC UP AND DOWN MAJOR ROAD OR KIRKPATRICK ROAD.

WE HAVE THERE IS ONE RESIDENCE THAT ADJOINS THE PROPERTY.

THE OTHER SIDES ARE MAJOR THOROUGHFARES.

RAGER ROAD, KIRKPATRICK ROAD, I THINK GARDNER RIDGE ROAD.

SO THE ONLY RESIDENCE, ONE ADJOINING.

WE'VE HAD MANY DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM, AND HE IS EXCITED TO HAVE US THERE AND TO HAVE SOMETHING DONE TO THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN VACANT FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE OF THE ZONING AND THE USE ISSUES.

NOW IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND THE USES PERMITTED USES UNDER AGRICULTURE ARE PRETTY VERY BROAD, AND THEY DON'T FIT IN AT ALL WITH A LOT OF THE RESIDENTIAL USES.

AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING UNDER THE OFFICE OR ZONING IS TO LIMIT THOSE USES.

SO IT'S MORE COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD.

NOW, WHEN WE HAD OUR HEARING AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WE HAD ONE RESIDENT THAT WAS NOT COMPLAINING NECESSARILY ABOUT IT BEING A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY, BUT BEING SOMETHING ELSE LIKE, AND I THINK THE EXAMPLE WAS A FLORIST AND SOME OTHER KIND OF BUSINESSES.

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YOU KNOW LIMITING IT TO JUST A CONGREGATE CARE FACILITY LIMITS THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY.

IT LIMITS THE USE AND AS FAR AS FUTURE USE, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE SOME KIND OF CARE IF A NEW OWNER OR IN THE FUTURE, A NEW BUSINESS WANTS TO COME IN THAT'S GOING TO BRING A BUSINESS IN THAT IS COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTS.

AND THAT'S KIND OF I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE LIST THAT THE ZONING COMMISSION HAS DONE.

SO WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF ME OR KENNETH I DO HAVE QUESTIONS.

I DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST.

OKAY. SO THAT LIST YOU'VE SPOKEN OF, LEXIN.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE SHOWING US? OKAY. SO, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS JUST ABOUT THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY.

WHAT LEVEL OF ASSISTED LIVING WILL IT BE? IT'S NOT, IT'S GOING TO BE PEOPLE THAT ARE MOBILE BUT DO NOT HAVE THE FACILITIES TO DRIVE.

THEY MAY NEED ASSISTANCE IN WALKING, BUT THEY ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, NOT BEDRIDDEN.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE THEIR, THE WAY IT'S DESIGNED.

THERE'S A THERE'S A BIG MEETING ROOM OR NOT A MEETING ROOM, BUT A BIG LIKE A LIVING ROOM SET UP LIKE A HOUSE.

AND THEY'VE GOT TVS AND A KITCHEN WITH THE RESIDENTS CAN COME DOWN AND GET A SNACK OR COOK WHAT THEY WANT, BUT THERE'S ALSO A LIVE IN RESIDENCE.

THAT IS, I WAS GOING TO ASK THAT.

SO IS IT THAT HAS MEDICAL TRAINING TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE? IS IT SET UP FOR 1 OR 2 PEOPLE TO LIVE IN STAFF? YES. OKAY. SO TWO, MAYBE IT'S SET UP FOR LIKE 2 TO 4 STAFF, DEPENDING ON 2 TO 4 WORKING THERE OR LIVING THERE, WORKING THERE THAT LIVE THERE AND WORK, I MEAN THEY'LL ROTATE OUT.

SO FOUR PEOPLE WOULD LIVE AND WORK THERE.

RIGHT. AND IS THAT ACCORDING TO THE LICENSURE, THE RATIO FOR 16 RESIDENTS WOULD REQUIRE FOUR STAFF MEMBERS AT ALL TIMES.

IT DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF CARE OR THE RESIDENCE, BUT WE DON'T.

OKAY, BUT WE'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE SET UP TO TAKE PEOPLE THAT NEED MORE CARE.

LIKE A MEMORY CARE? IT'S NOT A MEMORY CARE RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT.

AND I THINK I HEARD THAT YOU DON'T PLAN ANY SPECIAL EVENTS.

NO, WE'RE NOT PLANNING ANY SPECIAL EVENTS.

I MEAN, I'M SURE THEY'LL HAVE BIRTHDAY PARTIES FOR.

RIGHT. AND DO YOU ALL OPERATE ANOTHER FACILITY LIKE THIS ANYWHERE ELSE? SO YOU HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS KIND OF OPERATION? THEY DO.

I'M NOT SURE WHERE, BUT THEY DO OPERATE A LOT OF THESE RESIDENTIAL CARE FACILITIES, WHICH HAVE 4 TO 6 PATIENTS ALL OVER THE METROPLEX.

SO MORE OF LIKE A HOME SETTING IT IS VERSUS THIS, WHICH WOULD BE MORE SPECIFICALLY CONGREGATE CARE.

SO IT'S BIGGER AND A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

EXACTLY. RIGHT. SO ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I DO HAVE IS WITH THE PARKING, I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE NINE SPOTS AND THAT MEETS OUR PLUS AND 20% DEVIATION, BUT ONE OF THEM IS HANDICAPPED. SO THAT MEANS THAT'S REDUCED TO ONLY EIGHT PARKING SPOTS THAT ARE REGULAR PARKING SPOTS.

AND MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SHOULD HAVE FOUR PEOPLE IN RESIDENCE THERE, THAT'S FOUR CARS.

SO YOU WOULD ONLY HAVE FOUR CARS FOR 16 RESIDENTS.

AND NOT EVEN NECESSARILY A SPECIAL EVENT, BUT HOLIDAYS, BIRTHDAYS, MOTHER'S DAY, FATHER'S DAY.

I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE PARKING ON WAGER ROAD.

IT'S WAGER, BY THE WAY.

IT'S A FAMILY NAME.

SO, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING AND I KNOW IT IS WITHIN OUR CALCULATIONS.

BUT I THINK FOR SPECIAL OCCASIONS AND HAVING HAD SOMEONE IN A NURSING FACILITY, IT WAS VERY HARD TO MAKE PARKING ON THOSE DAYS.

IT DOES HAVE A DRAW, A CIRCLE DRIVE AND YOU WOULD ALLOW PARKING THERE, BUT WHAT WOULD MEAN THAT FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLE ACCESS, SO YOU CAN'T HAVE PARKING THERE AND DROP OFF, BUT THEN THEY STILL HAVE TO PARK SOMEWHERE TO GO IN AND VISIT THEIR LOVED ONE.

SO I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION FOR 16 RESIDENTS AND FOR LIVE IN PEOPLE.

I JUST THINK IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

PRACTICALLY SPEAKING, NOT ALL OF FOUR PEOPLE WILL LIVE THERE OR DWELL THERE AT ONCE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE MAY BE SPECULATING WHAT THE PARKING MAY OR MAY NOT DO RIGHT NOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTY WAS DEVELOPED IN 2010 AND THEY'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR YEARS.

DO THEY HAVE 16 RESIDENTS THEN?

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WELL YOU CAN HAVE DOUBLE OCCUPANCY, BUT IF THEY'RE NOT RELATED PEOPLE YOU COULD STILL CONCEIVABLY HAVE DIFFERENT FAMILIES.

YOU COULD EVEN HAVE MORE THAN ONE CAR PER FAMILY COMING TO VISIT THEIR LOVED ONE ON CHRISTMAS DAY OR THANKSGIVING OR MOTHER'S DAY, FATHER'S DAY.

RIGHT. WELL GO AHEAD.

OH, YEAH. YEAH.

TO THAT I WOULD SAY THAT I'M WE'RE NOT I'M NOT ANY MORE KNOWLEDGEABLE THAN THE CITY STAFF AND THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS HAVE LOOKED INTO THIS AND THEN THEY WERE OKAY AND IMPROVED THE PARKING.

I GUESS I'M JUST ASKING FROM THE STANDPOINT OF OPERATIONALLY.

AND YOU'RE THE PROPERTY OWNER, RIGHT? YES. AND SO DO YOU OPERATE THE FACILITY AS WELL? I DO NOT, NO. SO HOW YOU WILL BE HIRING A THIRD PARTY TO DO THAT? YES. YES.

AT LEAST IT'S LEASED OUT CURRENTLY TO A COMPANY THAT HAS SEVERAL ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES FOR SIX.

SO. YES.

YEAH. HE'S GOING TO BE THE LANDLORD AND THE LEASE WILL BE RUNNING IT.

NOW, THIS WAS PREVIOUSLY RAN AS A [INAUDIBLE] CARE FACILITY, AND WITH 16 PATIENTS OR RESIDENTS, I DON'T THAT WAS WAY.

THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.

GO AHEAD. IT WAS APPROVED FOR 12 WITH THE LAST SUP.

SO WHAT IS THAT, 25% LESS? 30%? IF YOU TAKE THE 33%, 32% LESS.

THANK YOU. AND WHERE IS ALL THIS PARKING? THIS PARKING IS IN THE BACK.

YOU'RE NOT. WE DON'T HAVE CURRENTLY HAVE ANY PARKING IN THE BACK.

GO AHEAD. THANK YOU.

OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD VIEW.

OH, I SEE IT. BUT WE DO HAVE ROOM, I THINK, TO EXPAND.

AND THAT MAY BE AN ISSUE FOR BUILDING PERMITTING.

COS THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT KIND OF PROVIDE A CHECKS AND BALANCES FOR.

SO YOU SAID YOU HAVE FOUR RESIDENTS NOW.

FOUR RESIDENTS NOW. SO YOU'RE OPERATING AS A NURSING HOME TODAY.

WE'RE ASSISTING LIVING.

ASSISTED LIVING. IT'S CONSIDERED A RESIDENCE.

THEY'RE OPERATING AS A GROUP HOME.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN ANY RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.

YOU CAN HAVE UP TO SIX RESIDENTS AND, TWO CARE PEOPLE.

THAT'S A STATE LAW. SO THEY ARE HAVE FOUR.

IT SOUNDS LIKE. OKAY, SO THEY HAVE AN ENTITLEMENT TO HAVE UP TO SIX RESIDENTS, TWO CARETAKERS, NO APPROVALS REQUIRED.

THAT'S CORRECT. BUT IF THEY GO BEYOND THE SIX THEN THEY NEED THE RIGHTS TO HAVE AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, WHICH IS WHAT THIS IS ABOUT HERE.

OKAY. YES. THAT'S CORRECT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME THE CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH THE SUP WAS ABANDONED? I DON'T KNOW THAT, WHAT WAS ABANDONED.

IT WAS A, MY UNDERSTANDING.

IT WAS MANY YEARS AGO WITH TWO OWNERS WERE REMOVED FROM US.

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE HISTORY WAS OF WHY IT STOPPED OR WHY IT WENT OUT OF BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS IN 2008.

ECONOMY? I HAVE NO IDEA.

I'M JUST. I'D BE SPECULATING.

OKAY. BUT IT IS DESIGNED FOR WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GO BACK TO WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED FOR.

I SAID HE ALSO SAID IN OUR MEETING JUST NOW AND I THINK AT THE P&Z AS WELL, THAT YOU DO WANT TO HAVE THE POSSIBILITY TO EXPAND, TO USE IT FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

THAT IS PART OF THE OVERALL STRATEGY HERE.

CORRECT? AS, AS AS A LANDOWNER, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD YOU PREFER TO, TO HAVE ALL YOUR OPTIONS ON WHAT YOU CAN USE BECAUSE YOU, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUTURE IS GOING TO BRING. AND I KNOW THAT THIS PROPERTY, SINCE IT WAS RESTRICTED, IT WAS VACANT FOR YEARS.

WHICH DOESN'T HELP THE LANDOWNER AND DOESN'T HELP THE CITY GAIN REVENUE AS FAR AS HAVING EMPLOYEES OR PROPERTY TAXES OR THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO IT DOESN'T HELP THINGS WHEN A PIECE OF PROPERTY IS NOT BEING USED AND IT'S VACANT.

THAT'S WHAT PROPERTY SORT OF DEVELOPED FOR US TO BE USED.

AND THIS PROPERTY WAS DESIGNED TO BE USED AS A CONGREGATE FACILITY.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK TO ITS ORIGINAL USE.

NOW, I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT ONE FAILED.

I KNOW THIS THIS BUSINESS THAT'S LEASED IT HAS I DON'T KNOW, OVER 20 OR 30 ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CONGREGATE CARE FACILITIES THEY HAVE, BUT THEY RUN A VERY GOOD BUSINESS.

THEY FOLLOW ALL THE GUIDELINES AS FAR AS THE HEALTH CARE, LICENSING, WHAT'S NECESSARY.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S REGULAR INSPECTIONS BY THE STATE TO MAKE SURE IT'S RAN CORRECTLY.

THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY VIOLATIONS OR ANY KIND OF CRITICISMS OF HOW THEY'RE BEING RAN BY THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY IN.

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SO I THINK THIS THIS COMPANY THAT'S LEASING IT OUT WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR FLOWER MOUND AND THIS FACILITY THEY'VE BEEN IN.

LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING A ASSISTED LIVING CARE FOR AT LEAST A YEAR WITH FOUR RESIDENTS, AND THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS FROM ANY OF THE RESIDENTS AT ALL.

SO. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. SO I THINK I WOULD DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH OF AN ISSUE ALLOWING THE CONGREGATE CARE USE OF THIS.

THAT'S WHAT THE SUP ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED.

THAT'S WHAT THIS WAS BUILT FOR.

THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN USED. AS YOU MENTIONED, MY CONCERN LIES WITH EXPANDING THE POTENTIAL USES IN THE FUTURE, AND I WOULD BE MORE INCLINED TO RESTRICT THE POTENTIAL USES THEN IF SOMETHING ELSE DOES COME FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IMAGINE WHAT THAT MIGHT BE, LET'S THEN LOOK AT THAT ON ITS MERITS AND ITS IMPACTS TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY IF AND WHEN THAT DOES BECOME AN ISSUE.

RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED AGRICULTURAL AND IT AND I DON'T HAVE THE LIST OF THE USES FOR AGRICULTURE, BUT MOST OF THOSE USES ARE NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL.

I MEAN I CAN'T THINK OF SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

THAT WOULD BE ALLOWED BY.

RIGHT. THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THAT ARE ALLOWED BY RIGHT UNDER AN AG THAT DO NOT ABSOLUTELY DO NOT FIT THE RESIDENTIAL USE IN THAT CORNER.

AND THE OFFICE ZONING WITH THE LIMITED THINGS THAT WE'VE PARED IT DOWN TO OR THE ZONING DEPARTMENT IS PAIRED IT DOWN TO.

I BELIEVE IT'S VERY COMPATIBLE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE AGREED TO FOR A WIN FOR THE FOR US AND THE RESIDENTS AND TO KEEP THE PROPERTY USES AVAILABLE FOR FUTURE USE.

AND WE DO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING.

OH, YEAH, IT'S A PUBLIC. I'LL BE INTERESTED TO HEAR WHAT THE RESIDENTS.

YEAH, WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE COMING FORWARD TO KIND OF JUST BUILD OFF THAT, LIKE, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RIGHT NOW HAS A LOT MORE USES.

AND SOME OF THE USES THAT WE'RE SEEING TODAY ARE JUST OVERLAPPING.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ANY ADDITIONAL TO AND THEN SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE, YOU KNOW, THEY STILL EXIST WITH, YOU KNOW, TODAY'S ZONING SAY IF YOU KNOW, ROB IS SAYING IF SOMEONE WOULD TURN THIS INTO A SEWAGE PLANT, YOU KNOW, IT'S YOU KNOW.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S ON THE TABLE.

I WAS VERY SATISFIED WITH THE EXPLANATION THAT LEXIN OFFERED REGARDING SOME OF THOSE USES THAT ARE HIGHLY UNLIKELY AT THIS TIME, BUT MAY BE RESERVED FOR FUTURE USE BY THE TOWN AND THAT WOULD BE THE SEWAGE TREATMENT PLANT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REALLY GOING TO BE NECESSARY THERE, NOR WOULD THERE BE ENOUGH ROOM FOR THAT THERE.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ASKING FOR A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, AND MAYBE YOU HAVEN'T HAD EXPERIENCE WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND TO KNOW THAT WE TAKE IT VERY SERIOUSLY.

MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS A BIG DEAL.

AND SO THIS IS WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'VE AGREED TO THE LIST AND YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT IT'S OUR PURVIEW TO DECIDE IF WE THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

SO HOPEFULLY WE CAN THROUGH OUR DELIBERATION AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU KNOW, OUR HEARING, COME TO SOME AGREEMENT ON WHAT WE THINK IS GOOD FOR THE TOWN IN THAT SPOT. SO WE FOLLOWED WHAT THE ZONING DEPARTMENT RECOMMENDED.

AND, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DISCUSSION.

WELL THEY DO ADVISE US TOO.

SO THAT'S A GOOD STARTING POINT.

OKAY. SO WE'LL GO AHEAD.

ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION, SIR? YES. OKAY. THANK YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND OPEN THIS FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE HAVE SEVERAL COMMENT CARDS TONIGHT, SO I'M ANXIOUS.

LEXIN. DID YOU HAVE TO PRESENT? NO, I JUST I WANTED TO MAKE ONE CORRECTION FROM BECAUSE I THINK I SAID IT BACKWARDS.

SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I SAY THAT CORRECT BEFORE POTENTIALLY WE TALK ABOUT ANYTHING MORE WITH IT.

COUNCIL MEMBER WARNER, DID YOU ASK ME PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT SERVICE, IS THAT RIGHT? YES. THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THAT ONE IS IT SPEAKS MORE TO ACTUAL, LIKE, PERSONAL IMPROVEMENT, LIKE COUNSELING, TAKING AN ART CLASS, THAT SORT OF THING.

IT'S CUSTOM PERSONAL SERVICE, WHICH IS ALSO ON THE LIST, BUT THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S MORE LIKE THE HAIR SALON SPA OR THAT SORT OF THING.

SO THEY BOTH HAVE PERSONAL IN THEM.

I GET THEM CONFUSED. SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

SO, WE WILL OPEN THIS UP FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

MANY COMMENT CARDS.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH BETH SODERBERG.

IF YOU'LL COME FORWARD.

EACH PERSON HAS THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

JUST SAY YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

THANK YOU. BETH SODERBERG, 3100 WAGER ROAD, FLOWER MOUND.

THANK YOU TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL YOU DO FOR US EVERY SINGLE DAY TO MAKE OUR TOWN THRIVE.

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WE ARE NOT IN FAVOR OF REZONING THIS PROPERTY FOR OFFICE USE OR ANY TYPE IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA AND ON OUR STREET.

I WOULD THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

OKAY. RANDY SODERBERG.

OH, I'M SORRY. YOU GOT.

IT'S A WHITE CARD.

JONATHAN ALDIS.

JONATHAN ALDIS, 3151 TRAILS END AT THE FAR END OF THE STREET.

I THINK MOST OF YOU.

THANK YOU. AS BETH SAID, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SERVICE.

AND AFTER WATCHING THE PNC, THANK YOU TO P&Z AS WELL.

I THINK MOST OF YOU HAVE HIT ON WHAT OUR MAJOR CONCERN IS.

I APPRECIATE YOU SAYING THAT MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN, THE TOWN DOES TAKE AMENDING THE MASTER PLAN VERY SERIOUSLY.

I DON'T HAVE AN OBJECTION TO THE USE OF THE FACILITY.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE, BUT I WANT TO STEP BACK AND THIS WAS DONE IN 2009, 2010, ABOUT THE TIME WE MOVED TO OUR PROPERTY.

I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT WAS IN COUNCIL'S MIND.

NONE OF US CAN KNOW THAT, BUT I CAN REFRAME IT FOR US AND POINT OUT THAT FLOWER MOUND OAKS DIDN'T EXIST.

IT WAS STILL FLOWER MOUND OAKS.

IT WAS 20 ACRES OF OAK TREES.

AND REMEMBER OUR MAJOR CONNECTOR TO THE NORTH WAS GOING TO BE A THOROUGHFARE ROUTE.

YOU GUYS HAVE JUST RECENTLY TAKEN THAT OFF AND SAID THAT IS NOT GOING TO BE A MAJOR CONNECTOR.

SO I CAN GIVE FORMER GENERATIONS A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE AND SAY, IT'S KIND OF RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF WHAT WAS GOING TO BE A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE, AND WE REALLY DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN ACROSS THE STREET.

WELL, WE KNOW THAT NOW.

THE FLOWER MOUND OAKS FOLLOWED THE MASTER PLAN.

EVERYTHING ELSE HAS FOLLOWED THE MASTER PLAN.

AND WITH THIS PARTICULAR PEOPLE, OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PARTICULAR GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO SIT BEHIND ME, YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN.

WE WOULD JUST APPRECIATE I SEE THIS AS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF WHAT SPOT ZONING ENDS UP TURNING INTO, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE FOR THE APPLICANT THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

I UNDERSTAND THE THINGS HAVE CHANGED SINCE THE FIRST PROPERTY USE, AND NONE OF US CAN ACCOUNT FOR THAT.

BUT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THIS IS A CHANCE TO REALLY RECONSIDER.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN THEN? ONCE WE ONCE WE TRIP THAT WIRE.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW, AND CHANGE THAT ZONING, IT OPENS US UP.

AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO THIS, THESE ARE PRIME PROPERTIES FOR THAT SAME SORT OF CHANGE IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE OF THE FRONTAGE, THEY COULD MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT. GARDEN RIDGE ON ONE SIDE, WAGER ON THE OTHER.

WELL, IT'S HARDLY RESIDENTIAL.

SO IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE APPLICANT.

IT'S REALLY NOT ABOUT THE USE, BECAUSE WE'VE LIVED THERE WITH THIS CONGREGATE CARE HAPPENING BEFORE.

IF ANYTHING, IT BEING CLOSED HAS HELPED THE SCHOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE PARENTS.

AS YOU GUYS KNOW, PARENTS HAVE BEEN PARKING THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

THEY'RE REALLY GOING TO MISS HAVING THE EXTRA PARKING SPACES.

NOT THAT THAT'S A GOOD REASON, BUT I JUST THINK IT STARTS TO SET A PRECEDENT NOT JUST FOR THE TOWN, BUT IN THIS VERY SPECIFIC POCKET.

AND AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WE'VE BEEN VERY DILIGENT ABOUT RECENTLY TRYING TO RESTORE A NEIGHBORHOOD FEEL TO THIS VERY UNIQUE PART OF FLOWER MOUND.

SO I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU, IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MECHANISM, I THINK, MR. TAYLOR, YOU'VE BROUGHT IT UP. IF THERE'S ANY OTHER MECHANISM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT SOLUTION IS, BUT ONCE WE TAKE A PD WITH AN OFFICE BASED UNDERLAY, WE OPEN UP A LOT OF OTHER USES THAT I KNOW NONE OF US ANTICIPATE AND WOULD NOT PREFER.

BUT THAT'S WHY WE'RE SPEAKING OUT TONIGHT.

SO I THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

NO PROBLEM. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS? ANYBODY WANT TO COME FORWARD? I HAVE FOUR COMMENT CARDS HERE.

THEY ARE ALL IN OPPOSITION OF THE ZONING CHANGE OR CHANGE IN THE MASTER PLAN ON THOSE FOUR.

OKAY, SO WE WILL CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

AND SO COUNCIL, IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO DELIBERATE.

SO I'LL GO FIRST.

SO, I'M JUST I'M NOT INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE MASTER PLAN ON A LOT BY LOT BASIS.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA FOR THE REASONS THAT THE RESIDENT JUST SAID.

IF ONCE ONE IS ZONED OFFICE, THEN THE NEXT ONE IS ADJACENCY.

IT SUDDENLY BECOMES A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO MAKE THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET SOMETHING ELSE.

AND AS YOU KNOW, WE TOOK A HARD LINE ABOUT STICKING TO THE MASTER PLAN IN THIS WHOLE AREA.

AS FAR AS CHANGING THE USES IN AGRICULTURE TO ELIMINATE THIS USE, THAT WAS BECAUSE WE WERE GETTING LARGE COMMERCIAL FACILITIES IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS LIKE MUSTANG IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT.

RIGHT. ON COLLEGE.

AND I KNOW I LIVE NEXT TO AN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY AND THEY GENERATE A LOT OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE TRAFFIC.

WE'VE HAD OUR POLICE, OUR FIRE CHIEF COME UP AND SAY THAT THOSE FACILITIES GENERATE A LARGE VOLUME OF EMERGENCY VEHICLE TRAFFIC, WHICH CAN BE, YOU KNOW, CAN IMPACT QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND IT.

WITH THAT SAID, I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO THIS APPLICANT CONTINUING TO OPERATE UNDER THE TERMS OF THEIR SUP IF THAT WERE POSSIBLE, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY'VE ABANDONED THAT USE.

THEY NEVER GOT A PD AND SO THEREFORE THEY'RE NO LONGER ENTITLED TO THAT.

SO JUST LOOKING OVER AGRICULTURAL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED IN AGRICULTURE.

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A THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS TOO.

WELL, THIS IS THE OFFICE LIST.

NO, NO, I'M LOOKING AT THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING PERMITTED USES ON OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SO DAY CAMP FOR CHILDREN, DAYCARE, HOME.

I DO WANT TO SEE THAT. YEAH.

AND I JUST I JUST LEXIN CAN BRING IT UP.

THEN EVERYONE CAN SEE IT AT ONCE.

BECAUSE MY CONCERN IN NOT ALLOWING THE MASTER PLAN WAS THAT THE AG ALLOWED USES MIGHT BE TOO EXPANSIVE.

RIGHT. SO I DID WANT TO EXPLORE THE TOPIC OF IS IT MORE APPROPRIATE TO TAKE IT OUT OF AG BECAUSE IT'S REALLY NOT AGRICULTURAL? RIGHT. NO. AND I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THAT AGRICULTURAL ZONING DOES HAVE QUITE A NUMBER OF USES THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS TYPE OF BUILDING, LIKE A SCHOOL, RELIGIOUS ASSEMBLY, DAYCARE, NUMBER OF OTHERS.

SO, OH, A VETERINARIAN IS WITH AN SUP.

SO ALL OF THOSE USES CAN BE CAN BE.

THE BUILDING COULD BE REPURPOSED FOR ANY NUMBER OF USES.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S IT CAN ALSO CONTINUE TO OPERATE AS A GROUP HOME WITH SIX RESIDENTS.

SO I BELIEVE THAT THERE THEY HAVE A NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT THEY CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AND THAT A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS JUST NOT THE RIGHT COURSE OF ACTION FOR ONE LOT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. ANY MORE COMMENTS, Y'ALL? I AGREE WITH THAT.

YOU WANT TO. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION THEN? YES, I'LL MAKE A MOTION.

ALL RIGHT. REGARDING WE HAVE TO DO ON, YOU HAVE TO DO TWO SEPARATE ONES.

YES. SO I WILL MAKE A MOTION FOR REGULAR ITEM K3, WHICH IS NPA 24-001 TO DENY THE NPA.

SECOND. OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OKAY.

MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT IS DENIED FOR ITEM K3.

GERALD, DO WE NEED A MOTION SPECIFICALLY FOR THE ZONING AS WELL WITH THAT DENIAL? I THINK IN THE PAST, BRYN HAS SUGGESTED THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT, MOVE DENIAL OF REGULAR ITEM K FOUR.

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL FOR THAT.

FOUR IS DENIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM K FIVE AND K SIX.

[Items K.5. & K.6.]

AND JAMES DID YOU WANT TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS.

JUST REAL BRIEFLY I'LL ASK MARY TO COME UP.

SHE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION.

A LITTLE OVER A MONTH AGO, MARY PROVIDED A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE TOWN CONTEMPLATING AN EXTENSION OF TIRZ NUMBER ONE.

SO MARY'S GOING TO BE BEFORE YOU TO REFRESH YOU ON THAT.

AND ULTIMATELY WE'RE AT THAT FORMAL DECISION POINT TO MAKE THAT EXTENSION.

SO WITH THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARY.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MARY PETTY WITH P3 WORKS FOR YOU OR YOUR TIRZ ADMINISTRATOR.

AS JAMES SAID, WE WERE HERE ON OCTOBER 7TH WHERE WE GAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT TIRZ NUMBER ONE.

SO AS YOU RECALL, TIRZ NUMBER ONE HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR A WHILE.

IT NATURALLY EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS YEAR UNDER THE TERMS OF ITS ORIGINAL CREATION.

THE COUNTY HAS DOLLARS THAT ARE IN THERE.

THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED THAT PROJECT, AND THERE WERE CERTAIN NEW PROJECTS THAT WERE UNDERTAKEN WITH THOSE DOLLARS THAT THE TOWN HAD DEDICATED TO THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, AND SO THEY HAD AMENDED THAT PLAN TO INCLUDE THOSE PROJECTS THAT VERY MUCH HAD STAFF DIRECTION, YOUR DIRECTION, ETC..

AS WE WERE WALKING THROUGH THAT, THERE ALSO BECAME A DESIRE OF PERHAPS CREATING A CULTURAL AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

SO USING THE OPPORTUNITY OF REVENUES AVAILABLE FROM BOTH THE COUNTY AND THE TOWN, AND THE FACT THAT THERE WAS SOME PROPERTY AVAILABLE AS WELL THAT FIT THE BILL, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU INTERFACE WITH THE COUNTY.

SO ON OCTOBER 7TH, WE BROUGHT TO YOU ALL THOSE DETAILS RELATED TO WHAT THE EXTENSION WOULD LOOK LIKE.

AND JUST IN A NUTSHELL, WE WERE LOOKING AT A FIVE YEAR EXTENSION.

RIGHT NOW THE TOWN PARTICIPATES AT 100% AND THAT WOULD DROP TO 80.

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SO ON YEAR FIVE YOU WOULD ONLY PARTICIPATE AT 60%.

THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO BE REDUCED IN THE SAME PERCENTAGE MOVING DOWN.

EVEN WITH THAT REDUCTION, IT'S STILL ALLOWED ENOUGH DOLLARS FROM THE EXISTING VALUES THAT ARE CAPTURED IN THE INCREMENT THE TAX INCREMENT ZONE TODAY TO GENERATE ENOUGH MONEY THAT WOULD MOVE FORWARD, THAT CULTURE AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER THAT HAS BEEN ON KIND OF THE DESIGN BOOKS FOR A WHILE NOW.

I SAY DESIGN, THERE WERE SOME PRESENTATIONS DONE, BUT THAT DESIGN WORK HAS NOT YET BEEN DONE.

SO THE ACTION TONIGHT WOULD NOT BE TO APPROVE A DESIGN OR APPROVE A SQUARE FOOTAGE.

IT IS SIMPLY TO EXTEND THE TERMS SO THAT IT DOES NOT EXPIRE BECAUSE UNDER CHAPTER 311, IF IT EXPIRES, ALL THOSE DOLLARS GET SENT BACK TO THE ENTITIES AND THAT BASE HAS TO BE RESET.

AND SO IT WOULD TAKE A MUCH, MUCH, MUCH LONGER TIME TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THAT FACILITY WITH TIRZ FUNDS.

SO THIS IS SIMPLY TO EXTEND THE TERM FIVE YEARS.

IT WOULD DROP THOSE PERCENTAGES OF THE PARTICIPATION BY BOTH THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY EACH OF THOSE YEARS.

AND THEN ALSO ON YOUR AGENDA IS THE PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY THAT WOULD INCLUDE THIS AMENDED FINAL PLAN AS WELL.

AND AGAIN, THE PROJECTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THE TIRZ NUMBER ONE BOARD ARE THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING UNDERTAKEN.

DOLLARS HAVE BEEN EXPENDED OUT OF THE TIRZ TOWN INCREMENT, AND THERE'S SOME ADDITIONAL DEBT SERVICE THAT WOULD ALSO NEED TO CONTINUE EVEN PAST THIS YEAR.

WE'VE GOT ABOUT A COUPLE MORE YEARS OF THAT THAT'S NEEDED.

SO THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO EXTEND THE TIRZ.

SO SEVERAL REASONS PRIMARILY THAT CULTURAL AND PERFORMING ARTS CENTER.

BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE NOT APPROVING THAT BUILDING OR THAT SCOPE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

THAT WOULD COME UP IN THE IN THE MONTHS COMING FORWARD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

NO, I KNOW I MEAN, YOU'VE DONE EXTENSIVE WORK ON THIS.

WE APPRECIATE IT. YOU'VE GIVEN US A LOT OF INFORMATION ON IT.

DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? SO, MARY, THE TIRZ BOARD REVIEWED THE AMENDED PLAN, BUT THEY HAVE NOT DID NOT REVIEW THE AMENDED PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.

THEY HAVE NOT. THIS PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT REFLECTS THE COUNTY'S DOCUMENT, AND IT SIMPLY PICKS UP THE EXACT TERMS THAT WERE IN THE EXISTING PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.

AND SO THEY STILL HAVE THE SAME MEMBER BOARD MEMBERS.

THAT STILL TIES BACK TO THE FINAL PLAN.

THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO TERMINATE IT.

IF THIS FINAL PLAN IS AMENDED BY THE TOWN COUNCIL WITHOUT GETTING THEIR PERMISSION.

THOSE WERE PROVISIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, BUT THEY HAVE TO RENEW BECAUSE THEIR PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT EXPIRES WITH THAT DATE.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE THE REMAINING TIRZ FUNDS IN THE NEW TIRZ FUNDS FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER THAT'S REFLECTED IN THE AMENDED PLAN IS ONE OF THE.

YES, SIR. ELIGIBLE EXPENSES? YES, SIR. IT'S VERY SPECIFIC THAT ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS ARE LISTED THAT ARE BEING COMPLETED WITH THE DOLLARS AVAILABLE, AND EVEN THE DEBT SERVICE THAT NEEDS TO GO BEYOND THE TERMINATION OF THIS YEAR.

AND THEN THAT CULTURAL ARTS FACILITY IS LISTED IN THERE.

AGAIN, WE DON'T KNOW THE FULL AMOUNT OF IT, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL BE DETERMINED BY YOU ALL AS THAT COMES FORWARD.

SO IN THE INITIAL AND THE ADDITIONAL PROJECTS SECTION OF THAT DOCUMENT, THERE'S A NUMBER 29 CULTURAL ARTS CENTER IN THE AMOUNT OF $50 MILLION.

THAT'S WHAT THE TIRZ BOARD REVIEWED BACK IN APRIL, I THINK IT WAS.

SO THE TIRZ BOARD REVIEWED THE AMENDED AND RESTATED TIRZ NUMBER ONE PLAN THAT CONTEMPLATED ALL OF THE OTHER PROJECTS, THE TOWN STAFF AND THE TOWN COUNCIL, WHICH YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, INCLUDED THAT CULTURE AND ARTS FACILITY IN THERE.

AND THAT WAS IN CONVERSATION WITH THE COUNTY AND HOW THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.

OKAY. LET ME JUST CLARIFY THAT.

SO WHEN THIS DOCUMENT WENT TO THE TOURIST BOARD IN APRIL, I THINK IT WAS, DID IT HAVE A CULTURAL ARTS CENTER IN THIS AMOUNT IN THEIR DOCUMENT? IT DID NOT HAVE THAT, BECAUSE THAT APRIL DOCUMENT WAS A DOCUMENT THAT WAS BROUGHT TO THE TIRZ NUMBER ONE BOARD, BECAUSE THERE HAD BEEN SOME PROJECTS AND SOME DECISIONS MADE RELATIVE TO THE TOWN'S INCREMENT.

AND WE WERE BROUGHT IN AT A TIME WHERE WE HAD NOT SEEN ANY OF THESE PAST PIECES, AND WE WERE PUTTING THOSE DOCUMENTS BACK IN COMPLIANCE.

AND SO THAT WAS TO RATIFY ALL OF THOSE ACTIONS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN TAKEN PLACE BY THAT TIRZ BOARD AND THEN CAPTURED IN THAT AMENDED AND RESTATED DOCUMENT. OKAY. SO BECAUSE I GOT SOME FEEDBACK THAT THE AGENDA SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT THE TIRZ BOARD HAS APPROVED THE DOCUMENT WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER IN IT, AND I GOT SOME FEEDBACK THAT AT LEAST ONE MEMBER FELT LIKE THEY HAD NOT DONE THAT.

AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S CORRECT, THAT THEY DID NOT REVIEW THE DOCUMENT WITH THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER AND APPROVE IT.

THAT WAS ADDED AFTER THEIR MEETING, THAT NOW WE'RE SEEING A DOCUMENT THAT THEY HAVE NOT SEEN YET THAT THIS DOCUMENT HAS BEEN.

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THE ONLY AMENDMENTS TO IT WERE THAT CULTURAL ARTS CENTER AND THEN THAT EXTENSION OF FIVE YEARS, WHICH THE COMPONENTS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO AS THE TOWN COUNCIL IS TO AMEND THAT FINAL PLAN THAT COMES TO YOU AS A RECOMMENDATION.

BUT I DIDN'T WRITE THE AGENDA.

LANGUAGE I WOULD ADD IS IN THE STAFF REPORT.

IT DOES MENTION THE BOARD ADOPTED A RECOMMENDED APPROVAL AT THEIR APRIL 3RD, 2024 MEETING.

SINCE THAT TIME, THE ARTS CENTER PROJECT HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE PLAN ALONG WITH THE FIVE YEAR EXTENSIONS.

OKAY.

UNDERSTOOD. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WERE CLEAR THAT THIS IS REALLY COMING TO US.

WE'RE THE FIRST APPROVERS ON THIS.

THE TIRZ BOARD HASN'T SEEN IT OR SIGNED OFF ON IT YET, BUT THEY WILL AS THOSE EXPENDITURES ARE MADE, THAT WILL GO TO THEM? SO THAT'S A THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

SO DEPENDING ON THE TOWN CHARTER AND HOW STAFF WORKS, THAT DESIGN COMPONENT IS SEPARATE AND APART.

AND SO THE FINAL PLAN AMENDMENT, WHICH WOULD BE SOMETHING YOU WOULD TAKE ACTION TONIGHT, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO TAKE ACTION ON ANYTHING.

BUT REMEMBER THEY ARE RECOMMENDING BOARD.

AND SO YOU'RE TAKING ACTION TONIGHT.

AND SO AMENDING THAT ALLOWS THOSE REALLY COSTS TO BE EXPENDED.

WERE THERE ANY FUTURE CHANGES THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO RECOMMEND.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF THERE WAS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DOLLAR FIGURE NEEDED TO BE HIGHER.

THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT THEY COULD COME FORWARD AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION.

SO THE COUNTY IS PART OF THAT.

IT'S PART OF THAT BOARD AS WELL.

AND I THINK WE IN THE PAST I THINK WE'VE HEARD LANGUAGE NOT FROM US, BUT FROM OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT IT'S LIKE THIS FREE MONEY THAT WE CAN GET ACCESS TO.

IT'S THE COUNTY'S MONEY. BUT I THINK THE COUNTY'S BEEN PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY WANT TO ONLY FUND PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN AND NOT BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF.

THAT IS CORRECT. SO THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THEY'RE VERY INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING IN.

YES, SIR. THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAVE BEEN HAD DIRECTLY WITH THE COUNTY JUDGE.

AND IT IS AN UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DOLLARS GENERATED FROM THE COUNTY'S TAX INCREMENT IS ONLY BEING UTILIZED FOR THE CULTURAL AND ARTS FACILITY.

THE OTHER NEW PROJECTS THAT WERE ADDED INTO THE TIRZ PROJECT THAT THE TIRZ BOARD DID REVIEW, DID NOT INCLUDE A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE COUNTY.

THAT WAS ALL FROM THE TOWN'S TIRZ INCREMENT.

OKAY. SAY THAT AGAIN. THAT LAST PART.

SO, THE TIRZ BOARD IN APRIL REVIEWED THAT ORIGINAL LIST, THAT THEY ADDED NEW PROJECTS TO.

ALL OF THOSE NEW PROJECTS THAT WERE ADDED WERE FINANCED THROUGH THE TOWN'S TIRZ INCREMENT, NOT THE COUNTY'S.

SO THOSE ARE THE CIP PROJECTS THAT WE FUNDED.

SO THE COUNTY DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN THOSE? OKAY, GOOD. THEY DID NOT.

SO AND THEN THE LAST THING SO IT LOOKS LIKE WE WERE AT 100%.

WE'VE BEEN AT 100% FOR 20 YEARS.

BUT ONE OF MY GOALS WAS TO TRY TO GET SOME OF THIS TIRZ MONEY WE'VE BEEN COLLECTING AND PUT IT BACK INTO THE GENERAL FUND SO THAT OUR RESIDENTS CAN START TO SEE SOME TAX RELIEF. AND THE TIRZ THAT HAS BEEN ISOLATED THIS ENTIRE TIME CAN THEN FUND THOSE SHARED SERVICES THAT THE REST OF THE TOWN HAS BEEN PAYING FOR.

SO, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GOING TO DROP THIS.

WE'VE ALREADY DROPPED IT TO 80%.

WE'VE DONE THAT. CORRECT.

THIS WILL TAKE THAT ACTION.

YES, SIR. YES, SIR.

AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO DROP IT 5% FOR FIVE YEARS.

AND THEN AT THE END OF FIVE YEARS, IF NO ACTION IS TAKEN, THIS THING IS KAPUT.

YES, SIR. NULL AND VOID.

AND THEN WE CAN ALL GET ON WITH OUR LIVES.

IT EXPIRES. YES, SIR.

AND THEN, MEANWHILE, THE COUNTY'S PERCENTAGE, SAME PERCENT THAT WE'RE CONTRIBUTING, IS GOING TO BE PART OF IT AS LONG AS WE'RE USING IT FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER, THEN WE'RE ALL. YES. SO WE COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT THE COUNTY, BASICALLY.

NO, SIR. THEY ARE A SIGNIFICANT CONTRIBUTOR.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO EXTEND THE TIRZ MUCH LONGER.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT. YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS FOR MARY.

THANK YOU. MARY WE WILL OPEN THIS TO PUBLIC FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS.

SO DOES ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE WANT TO COME FORWARD AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS? NO ONE'S COMING FORWARD, SO WE WILL CLOSE IT.

AND THEN IF YOU ALL WANT TO DELIBERATE, OR YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION.

SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT GENERALLY SPEAKING, I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF A TIRZ, BUT THIS IS OUR ONE AND ONLY CHANCE TO IF WE DON'T DO THIS AND USE THIS FOR THE CULTURAL ARTS CENTER, THEN WE'LL NEVER HAVE A CULTURAL ARTS CENTER UNLESS WE WANT TO GO INTO DEBT.

AND THIS ALLOWS US TO DO A QUALITY.

YEAH. IT'S. AND THE COUNTY IS ON BOARD.

VERY MUCH SO. AND IT DOES IT'S, IT'S NOW OR NEVER.

SO I'M IN FAVOR OF NOW.

AGREE. OKAY.

IF YOU'LL MAKE A MOTION I'LL DO IT.

OR DO YOU WANT TO DO IT? YEAH I'LL GO.

OKAY. GO AHEAD. DO WE DO THEM TOGETHER?

[01:50:01]

I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K5 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA.

ITEM K5 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

NOW WE HAVE TIRZ.

I MOTION TO APPROVE ITEM K SIX AS PRESENTED.

WAIT, DID WE OPEN BOTH TOGETHER? I DON'T REMEMBER. WE OPENED BOTH.

WE DID, BUT WE HAD TO MAKE TWO MOTIONS.

YEAH. THANK YOU. SECOND.

OH THERESA, IF YOU'LL TAKE THE ROLL.

OKAY. AT THIS TIME, IT IS 7:49.

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

THE TIME IS NOW 8:36 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN MEETING.

[N. RECONVENE]

THEREFORE, THE TIME IS NOW 8:36 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.