Aug 05, 2024 Town Council Archive

[A. CALL TO ORDER ]

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IS NOW 6:00.

WE WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER FOR THE FLOWER MOUND REGULAR MEETING ON THIS DATE, AUGUST 5TH, 2024.

WE WILL START WITH OUR INVOCATION LED BY ME.

IF YOU WOULD ALL LIKE TO STAND.

AS WE GATHER HERE TODAY, LET US GIVE THANKS FOR THIS DAY AND THE OPPORTUNITIES WE ARE GIVEN, WHETHER BIG OR SMALL.

LET US UPLIFT ONE ANOTHER IN OUR DAILY LIVES AND HELP THOSE IN NEED IN ANY WAY WE CAN.

GIVE OUR COUNCIL SUPPORT IN THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS THEY MAKE FOR OUR TOWN.

AND LET US ALL WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS A BETTER HOME FOR US.

FOR US ALL. AMEN.

PLEASE STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO START WITH OUR PRESENTATIONS, AND WE HAVE A COUPLE TONIGHT.

[D. PRESENTATION(S) ]

TONIGHT, A GREAT TURNOUT.

OKAY, SO WE HAVE A NEW JUDGE.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HER COME UP HERE.

IT'S ALYSSA JANKE.

I ALWAYS PRONOUNCE THAT WRONG.

IT'S JANKE. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FAMILY COME UP HERE? OKAY. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

Y'ALL CAN COME UP HERE.

SO, I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS.

BEFORE WE GOT STARTED.

IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

OH, LET'S COME OVER. OKAY.

BETTER FOR PICTURES. THANK YOU, MAYOR MOORE, TOWN COUNCIL, CHIEF COULAN IF HE'S HERE TONIGHT, AND TOWN STAFF.

THANK YOU FOR THE FAITH AND TRUST YOU HAVE IN ME AS THE PRESIDING JUDGE FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

IT IS TRULY AN HONOR AND A PRIVILEGE TO STEP INTO THE SHOES OF JUDGE TASKER, WHO SERVED IN THIS POSITION FOR SO MANY YEARS.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK JUDGE TASKER, WHO IS HOPEFULLY ENJOYING HIS RETIREMENT NOW, AS WELL AS OUR ASSOCIATE JUDGE STEPHANIE ASKEW, FOR INVITING ME TO JOIN THEM AS JUDGES IN FLOWER MOUND TWO YEARS AGO.

DURING THOSE TWO YEARS, I HAVE WITNESSED THE OUTSTANDING JOB PERFORMED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR COURT STAFF AND VARIOUS TOWN DEPARTMENTS WE HAVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

YOU MAKE OUR JOB AS JUDGES VERY EASY AND ENJOYABLE WHILE ENSURING OUR CORE IN JAIL RUN EFFICIENTLY.

I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK RICHARD ANDERSON FOR APPOINTING ME AS A JUDGE SIX YEARS AGO.

I WOULD NOT BE STANDING HERE TODAY IF IT WERE NOT FOR HIM.

LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MY PHENOMENAL HUSBAND, HIS WORD AND AMAZING FAMILY BOTH HERE AND AFAR, FOR YOUR UNWAVERING SUPPORT OF ME AND MY CAREER.

THROUGH THE YEARS. I DO HAVE THE BEST CHEERLEADERS BEHIND ME.

AS JUDGE TASKER SHARED IN HIS FAREWELL SPEECH, THE ROLE OF A MUNICIPAL JUDGE IS NOT EASY, BUT IT IS AN INTEGRAL COMPONENT IN THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE FOR THOSE WHO COME BEFORE US.

THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE YOU AND THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, ALL OF THAT.

THANK YOU.

MAKE SURE YOU STAY UP HERE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND DO THE OATH.

SO, I'M GOING TO HAVE YOU REPEAT AFTER ME.

I, ALISSA JANKE.

I, ALISSA. DO SOLEMNLY I HAVE TO SAY IT RIGHT.

I SOLEMNLY SWEAR.

I SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM THAT I WILL FAITHFULLY EXECUTE THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE'S OFFICE OF PRESIDING MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE FOR THE TOWN OF

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THE DUTIES OF THE OFFICE OF PRESIDING MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE.

PRESIDING MUNICIPAL COURT JUDGE FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

AND WE'LL DO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY.

WE'LL DO THE BEST OF MY ABILITY TO PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND, PRESERVE, PROTECT AND DEFEND THE CONSTITUTION AND LAWS, CONSTITUTION AND LAWS OF THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS, THE UNITED STATES AND THE STATE OF TEXAS.

AND THE CHARTER AND ORDINANCES OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

THE CHARTER OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

SO HELP ME GOD. SO HELP ME GOD.

THERE YOU GO. CONGRATULATIONS.

OKAY, Y'ALL DON'T GET IN TROUBLE.

YOU'LL END UP SEEING JUDGE JANKE.

OKAY, SO WE'RE AT THE NEXT PRESENTATION WE'RE GOING TO DO IS THE RECOGNITION OF THE RECIPIENTS OF A CERTIFICATE FOR THE READING PROGRAM AT OUR FLOWER MOUND LIBRARY.

AND I'M GOING TO HAVE RACHEL HADIDI COME UP.

SHE'S THE DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY SERVICES.

SO WE WANTED THESE KIDS COME AND THEY READ ALL THROUGH THE SUMMER, AND RACHEL'S GOING TO EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM.

AND THEY CAME EARLIER TODAY AND GOT THEIR CERTIFICATES.

AND THESE PEOPLE, THESE KIDS READ A LOT, THESE KIDS AND ADULTS.

I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH THEY READ.

BUT RACHEL WILL EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. YES.

SO IN THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM AT THE FLOWER MOUND PUBLIC LIBRARY, THERE ARE DIFFERENT WAYS FOR KIDS TO ENGAGE IN THE LIBRARY.

THEY CAN READ WE NUMBER, WE MEASURE THE NUMBER OF MINUTES READ, BUT THEY ALSO LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT TOPICS.

SO THEY EXPLORE LIKE THE NONFICTION GENRE AND CHECK OUT ITEMS THAT ARE IN LIKE THE ARTS AND CRAFTS OR THE SCIENCES.

BUT OVERALL, THE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS WROTE OVER 2.5 MILLION MINUTES.

WE HAD OVER 2700 PARTICIPANTS IN OUR YEARLY CHALLENGE, AND WE ALSO HANDED OUT OVER 2700 BOOKS TO KIDS, SO IT WAS REALLY AWESOME.

THANK YOU FOR LEADING THAT PROGRAM.

SO WE'RE GOING TO BRING THE KIDS FORWARD.

THERE ARE THREE GROUPS.

WE HAVE K THROUGH FIFTH GRADE.

AND SO I'M GOING TO HAVE THOSE KIDS COME FORWARD AND COME UP HERE BECAUSE I REALLY WANT A PICTURE WITH THEM.

WHERE ARE YOU? YOU WERE HERE EARLIER.

COME ON K THROUGH FIFTH.

I THOUGHT I SAID K THROUGH FIFTH.

IS ANYBODY HERE K THROUGH FIFTH I THOUGHT SO I KNEW YOU WERE OUT THERE.

YOU ALL READ A LOT, RIGHT? HOW MUCH DID YOU READ? 6561 MINUTES.

HOW MANY MINUTES? ALL I KNOW IS I HAVE READ ONE HOUR AT LEAST EACH DAY.

I DON'T KNOW A LOT.

SHE READ A LOT.

HOW MUCH DID YOU READ? I DON'T KNOW.

A LOT. COME ON IN HERE.

WE'LL GET A PICTURE.

YEAH. COME ON IN.

COME ON. YOU HAD TO FACE THAT WAY.

THEY'RE TAKING THE PICTURE THAT WAY.

OH, YOU SEE YOURSELF? THERE YOU GO.

ONE. TWO. THREE.

PERFECT, PERFECT.

THANK YOU ALL.

YOU'RE ON VIDEO NOW.

THE NEXT AGE GROUP THAT GOT CERTIFICATES FOR THE EXTENSIVE READING THAT THEY DID IS GRADES SIX THROUGH 12.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE IN GRADES SIX THROUGH 12? AWESOME. COME ON IN.

HEY, Y'ALL. THANK YOU.

COME ON. THANK YOU FOR DOING ALL THAT READING.

DID RACHEL ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO DO ALL THAT? MAYBE. ALL RIGHT, LET'S TURN AROUND.

WE'RE GOING TO GET A GROUP PICTURE FOR THIS AGE GROUP.

SQUEEZE IT IN. SQUEEZE IT IN.

I SWEAR I DON'T BITE.

THANK YOU ALL.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT OH, WAIT WAIT WAIT.

COME ON BACK. SORRY, FOLKS.

ONE. TWO THREE.

THANK YOU ALL.

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SO IF THE ADULT READERS ABOVE 12TH GRADE CAN COME UP.

I KNOW SHE MAY HAVE LEFT.

YEAH, MAYBE.

BUT ANYWAY, WE HAVE THE ADULT READERS, SO I ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO GET INVOLVED IN THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.

OKAY? THEY HAVE A GREAT SUMMER READING PROGRAM AND SO MANY MORE PROGRAMS THERE.

THANK YOU. RACHEL.

DID YOU WANT TO SAY MORE? I WAS JUST GOING TO SHARE THAT THESE WILL ALL BE EMAILED TO YOU.

THE PROFESSIONAL PHOTOS WILL DROP IT TO YOU ALL TOMORROW.

IF SO, JUST IN CASE YOU'RE INTERESTED.

BUT THANK YOU FOR COMING TONIGHT.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

YES. YEAH. DOES ANYONE ON TOWN COUNCIL HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE? BRIAN.

CHRIS. YEAH, I'LL MAKE A FEW.

SO THIS NEXT MONTH, SEPTEMBER, WE'VE GOT YOU, ME AND A CUP OF TEA, WHICH IS A NEW EVENT THAT THE TOWN IS HOSTING.

SO IT'S A TEA PARTY, SO DEFINITELY SOMETHING COOL TO CHECK OUT.

AND THEN WE GOT MOVIE IN THE PARK STARTING IN SEPTEMBER 14TH.

SO LOOK OUT FOR SOME OF THE TOWN EVENTS COMING UP.

AND I JUST HAD A REMINDER THAT SCHOOL ZONES WILL BE ACTIVE STARTING NEXT WEEK.

LISD AND ARGYLE ISD ARE BOTH STARTING NEXT WEEK, SO WATCH OUT FOR THE SCHOOL ZONES AND THE KIDDOS.

DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.

OUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE DUE AUGUST 30TH, SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO GET ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION CERTAINLY PUT IN YOUR APPLICATION. YOU CAN GO TO FLOWER MOUND DOT GOV AND LOOK THAT UP TO GET YOUR APPLICATION IN.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL MOVE ON TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT ]

THANK YOU. YOU CAN COME ON IN IF YOU'LL STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK.

YES. I'M KIRTHI NARASIMHAN.

I LIVE AT 5316 PARK RIDGE ROAD, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 75022.

TO START OFF, I JUST I WANT TO THE REASON I WANTED TO SPEAK TONIGHT WAS THIS IS THE FIRST TOWN COUNCIL MEETING THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE DECISION AT TROTTER PARK.

SO, YOU HAVE ON YOUR DESKS A PIECE OF PAPER THAT I MADE BOTH FRONT AND BACK.

AS I WANT TO HARK BACK TO THAT TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

I HAVE SINCE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CHUCK JENNINGS TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY POSSIBLE WAY TO HAVE THE COUNCIL CONSIDER ANY MORE NUMBER OF TENNIS COURTS THAN THE NUMBER THE TWO COURTS THAT WERE APPROVED AT THAT MEETING.

I LIKE THE COUNCIL TO RECALL THEIR INITIAL REACTION WHEN THEY SAW THE PLAN.

TO SAY THAT I RECALL MANY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL SAYING, WHY ARE THERE JUST TWO TENNIS COURTS? WE'D LIKE TO SEE MORE.

IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT'S BEEN IT'S BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME THAT THERE IS MAYBE A FUTURE PLAN TO ADD MORE COURTS TO LEONARD COHEN.

I WILL SAY THE ONE THING ABOUT FLOWER MOUND THAT I'VE COME TO LEARN IS THAT 2499 IS A REAL, DIVIDING BOTH PSYCHOLOGICALLY AND PHYSICAL BARRIER TO MANY SIDES OF THE FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY, AND TO HAVE TENNIS COURTS ON THIS SIDE, ON THE WEST SIDE OF 2499 WILL BE VERY MEANINGFUL.

I DID POINT OUT IN THAT TWO-SIDED PRESENTATION, A PIECE OF PAPER, THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF BASKETBALL COURTS NEARBY.

SO, I REALLY QUESTIONED THE UTILITY, ESPECIALLY IF THE DEMAND HAS NOT BEEN EXPRESSLY WRITTEN, AND IF THE UTILIZATION RATES FOR THAT BASKETBALL COURT ARE NOT CLEARLY IDENTIFIED.

I REALLY THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK TO THE ELECTION, I PUT THAT LITTLE CHART TO HIGHLIGHT THAT 3000 PLUS RESIDENTS HAVE VOTED FOR THIS IN THE PREVIOUS BOND ELECTION, SO IT SURE DIDN'T PASS.

BUT THE POINT THAT I MADE IN THE PREVIOUS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING WAS THE FACT THAT IT WAS LIKELY AGAINST HOW IT WAS FUNDED, NOT HOW MANY COURTS OR THE FACT THAT A FACILITY WAS TO BE PUT THERE.

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SO PLEASE CONSIDER ADDING MORE TENNIS COURTS BEFORE THE END OF THE BEFORE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE.

THANK YOU. WE HAVE ONE MORE SPEAKER, JAMIE VON TRAPP.

HELLO, MAYOR MOORE.

I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE MY 2028 RUN FOR THE WOMEN'S BOXING IN THE SUMMER OLYMPICS.

BUT I HAVE FACED UNBELIEVABLE DISCRIMINATION IN THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE I'M NOT ALLOWED IN THE LOCAL WOMEN'S BOXING GYM.

THIS IS DISCRIMINATORY.

THIS IS WRONG. THEY SAY WEIRD THINGS LIKE I'M A GUY, IT'S DANGEROUS.

I SNEAK INTO THE WOMEN'S LOCKER ROOMS AND I THINK THAT'S RIDICULOUS BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ME, LOOK AT ME, I'M CLEARLY A BIOLOGICAL WOMAN.

JUST A MOMENT.

CAN YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS? JAMIE VON TRAPP, 6301 RIVERSIDE DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 75039.

THANK YOU. SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S OKAY. BUT IF YOU SEE I'M CLEARLY A BIOLOGICAL WOMAN, IT'S OBVIOUS I'M A BIOLOGICAL FEMALE.

AND I SHOULD GET TO COMPETE WITH THE GIRLS BECAUSE I GOT TWO NEW ROLE MODELS.

OLYMPIC BOXER AND [INAUDIBLE] AND OLYMPIC BOXER YIN LIU TING.

THEY'RE TECHNICALLY BIOLOGICAL MALES, BUT THEY GET TO BEAT UP ON THE LADIES.

THAT'S PRETTY COOL, BUT THEY'RE TECHNICALLY INTERSEX AND IT'S KIND OF COMPLICATED, BUT THEY'RE MALES, AND I THINK THAT I SHOULD BE ABLE TO BOX THE MALES AS WELL.

BECAUSE HERE'S THE THING. THE 2028 OLYMPICS ARE IN LOS ANGELES.

AND, YOU KNOW, THOSE WOKE WEIRDOS ARE GOING TO ROLL BACK THE RESTRICTIONS.

THEY'RE GOING TO LET THE OG TRANS WOMEN COMPETE LIKE MY BALDING BABE BEAUTY LAUREL HUBBARD.

CHECK HER OUT. SO ME AND HER AND MY FEMALE DING DONG ARE GOING TO BE AT THE WOMEN'S GAME.

BUT I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT NO MATTER THE RESTRICTIONS, I WILL BE ABLE TO GO IN THE GAMES BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO YOU'RE GOING TO BE REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THIS.

CHECK OUT THESE MOVES.

I GO LIKE A ONE, TWO, ONE, TWO, TWO.

I SPIT ON THAT THING, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND JUST HAVE A LITTLE FUN.

BUT SERIOUSLY, LIKE, I'M REALLY GOOD.

AND HERE'S THE THING.

I KNOW IT'S CONTROVERSIAL HERE IN TEXAS, MAYOR MOORE, BUT YOU CAN LEGALLY BET ON YOURSELF.

THAT'S THE THING. IT'S CALLED THE ALEX STEIN BETTING STRATEGY.

IF THERE'S A MALE IN WOMEN'S SPORTS, YOU BET ON THEM TO WIN.

SO YOU CAN BET ON ME TO WIN IN THE 2028 SUMMER OLYMPICS AND YOU CAN CASH OUT.

YOU CAN USE ALL THAT PARK, MAYBE DONATE IT TO THE CITY AND BUY A NEW PARK BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHO IS ON MY SIDE? OH WAIT, I FORGOT TO TELL YOU.

I BET ON LEE THOMAS.

I WON SO MUCH MONEY.

LIKE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

YOU KNOW WHO'S ON BOARD WITH THIS? MY GIRL KAMALA AND HER VICE PRESIDENTIAL PICK, PROBABLY JOSH SHAPIRO, WHO SIGNED A BILL SAYING, IF YOU ARE A MALE, YOU CAN PLAY IN WOMEN'S SPORTS IF YOU SO PLEASE. AND I JUST WISH THAT THIS CITY COUNCIL WOULD BE MORE PROGRESSIVE AND INCLUSIVE.

AND MAYOR MOORE, I DID A LITTLE RESEARCH ON YOU.

I HEARD YOU'RE AN AEROSMITH FAN, SO I'M GOING TO END WITH A QUICK LITTLE SONG.

SO YOU KNOW THE SONG DUDE LOOKS LIKE A LADY.

I GOT MY OWN VERSION IF IT PLAYS.

NO, NO, I'VE ONLY GOT 10S LEFT.

BUT HERE, I'LL DO IT THIS WAY.

BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM.

DID YOU JUST HEAR SAY LATER, BO BOOM? DUDE, JUST HEAR THE LATEST.

SPORTS BETTING IS EASY WHEN YOU CAN BET ON A MAIN CLIFF.

YOUR TIME IS UP, SIR.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. BUT REMEMBER.

REMEMBER ME? YOU CAN BET YOUR TIME IS UP.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT ]

THANK YOU, MAYOR. NOTHING TO REPORT OTHER THAN AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

AS THE AS THE COUNCIL IS AWARE, WE DID POST OUR BUDGET ONLINE.

FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED, YOU CAN GO TO OUR FINANCE PAGE, CLICK ON THE BUDGET AND SEE THE PROPOSED BUDGET.

ONE THING THAT PEOPLE WILL NOTICE IS THE FORMAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.

JOHN AND HIS TEAM HAVE DELIVERED A DIGITAL BUDGET BOOK THAT WILL EVOLVE THROUGH OUR DISCUSSIONS THAT WE HAVE ON THE BUDGET.

AND THE MOST IMPORTANT MEETING COMING UP, OBVIOUSLY, IS OUR BUDGET WORK SESSION ON AUGUST 15TH.

SO, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT ANNOUNCEMENT AND DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO REPORT.

MAYOR. OKAY. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYBODY HAVE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WANT TO ADD?

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WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS ]

CAN EVERYBODY MAKE THAT OKAY? WE'LL MAKE NOTE. EVERYBODY WILL BE THERE AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM J, CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S) ]

Y'ALL ARE MAKING THIS MEETING EASY.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM K REGULAR ITEM.

WHAT? OH I'M SORRY, WE DIDN'T.

WE FORGOT. I GOT SO EXCITED.

WE WERE MOVING SO FAST.

CAN WE MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT ITEMS, MAYOR? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS J ONE THROUGH 11 AS PRESENTED.

OKAY. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? OKAY.

TERESA, CAN YOU TAKE THE ROLL? ARE APPROVED.

WE WILL MOVE ON TO REGULAR ITEMS.

[K.1. Peters Colony Memorial Park - Consider approval of a Construction Agreement with Millis Development and Construction - Dallas, LLC., for the Peters Colony Memorial Park project, in the amount of $3,562,629.67; and authorization for the Mayor to execute same on behalf of the Town.]

WE'RE GOING TO CONSIDER APPROVAL OF A CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT WITH MILLS DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION.

CHUCK JENNINGS, OUR DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND REC, WILL GIVE THE PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MADAM MAYOR.

COUNCIL MEMBERS, GLAD TO BE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A NEW PARK WE WANT TO DEVELOP HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

ALSO WE JUST GOT THE ONE OPEN IN CANYON FALLS.

SO NOW WE GET TO START ON ANOTHER NEW ONE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND THE PRESENTATION REAL QUICK.

THERE WE ARE. SO I'VE GOT A FEW SLIDES I WANT TO GO OVER.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS AT THE DOLLAR LIMIT WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO YOU GUYS AND DO A PRESENTATION.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO TALK ABOUT A NEW PARK.

SO I'M GOING TO START WITH A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

THIS IS A 3.3 ACRE PARK THAT WE PURCHASED THE TOWN PURCHASED BACK IN JANUARY OF 2017.

IT'S CONSIDERED A CLASSIFIED AS A SPECIALTY PARK, AND IT WAS NAMED BACK IN APRIL OF 2018.

THAT'S WHEN WE GO THROUGH THE PARKS BOARD.

WE HAVE A NAMING COMMITTEE, AND THEN IT COMES TO YOU GUYS FOR APPROVAL.

SO, WE DID THAT BACK THEN.

THE MASTER PLAN WAS APPROVED BY YOU GUYS AT THE END OF 2019, AND I'LL SHOW YOU A SLIDE OF THE MASTER PLAN HERE IN A LITTLE BIT, AND HOW THAT REALLY HELPS US AS WE GET INTO DESIGN, AND YOU'LL SEE HOW IT REALLY MIMICS THE MASTER PLAN.

AND IT'S GOT ALL THE SAME AMENITIES THAT EVERYONE WANTED, AND LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT THE APPROVED MASTER PLAN WAS.

AND WE WORKED WITH MESA DESIGN GROUP.

THEY ALSO HELPED US WITH CANYON FALLS, SO NOW THEY'RE HELPING US WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL.

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS IS WE HAVE THE TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE GRANT.

WE HAD $750,000 FOR THIS GRANT.

AND THAT WAS APPROVED BACK IN LATE OF 2022, 750,000 MATCHING FUNDS.

SO THIS WAS KIND OF DELAYED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OUR GRANT WAS FUNDED THROUGH FEDERAL FUNDS, AND IT TOOK THEM A WHILE TO RELEASE THAT TO THE STATE.

SO WE COULDN'T START ON CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THOSE FUNDS WERE RELEASED BY THE FEDS TO THE STATE.

WE ALSO HELD AN OPENING BID, OUR FIRST ORIGINAL BID BACK IN JANUARY OF 2020.

FOR THOSE BIDS, I THINK WE HAD THREE BIDS AND THEY WERE ALL OVER BUDGET.

SO, WE DID A LITTLE LOOKING AT THE PLANS AND MADE A FEW LITTLE ADJUSTMENTS HERE AND THERE.

WE ALSO INCREASED THE FUNDING FOR THE FOR THE PROJECT AND PUT IT OUT TO BID AGAIN.

AND WE OPENED THOSE IN JUNE.

WE GOT FIVE BIDS THIS TIME AND AS YOU'LL SEE, I HAVE A SLIDE.

THEY ALL CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.

SO THAT WAS GOOD.

AND IF WE GETS APPROVED TONIGHT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO START AS EARLY AS MID-SEPTEMBER, AND WE ANTICIPATE HOPEFULLY ONLY TAKING 12 MONTHS TO GET BUILT.

SO THIS WAS A MASTER PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED AND JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF WHERE THIS PARK IS LOCATED AND FOLKS WATCHING HERE FROM HOME, THIS PARK IS LOCATED RIGHT NEXT TO THE LIBRARY.

LIKE I SAID, IT'S 3.3 ACRES.

IT HAS PETERS COLONY TO THE NORTH, OLD SETTLERS ROAD WITH FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET ON THE WEST AND THEN TO THE SOUTH THERE'S THE CHURCHILL CROSSING NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO, A FEW SIX HOMES ACTUALLY ABUT UP TO THE PARK AND YOU'LL SEE ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT KIND OF MIMICS THE MASTER PLAN THERE WHERE YOU'VE GOT THE OPEN SPACE NEXT, THE BUFFER THERE WITH OPEN SPACE.

WE DO HAVE SOME SOFT SURFACE TRAIL THAT WILL RUN THROUGH THERE AS JUST REAL SHORT DISTANCE TRAIL, BUT IT'S ALL SOFT SURFACE.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE LAYOUT BASICALLY MIMICS WHAT THE MASTER PLAN HAD.

THIS AREA UP HERE WHERE THE PARKING IS, THAT WAS PUT IN WITH THE LIBRARY EXPANSION.

SO, THE PARKING IS ALREADY THERE.

SO THAT'S GREAT.

WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT DOING THAT PART, BUT JUST GOING BACK AND FORTH, YOU CAN KIND OF SEE VERY SIMILAR.

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SO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE A CUSTOMIZED PAVILION HERE WITH SOME OVERSIZE PICNIC TABLES IN THERE.

WE HAVE THE GREAT LAWN IN THIS AREA WITH SOME STONE SEATING.

THE WATER WALL WILL BE IN THIS AREA HERE, A NICE WATER FEATURE THAT'LL ALSO HAVE SOME INTERPRETIVE PANELS ON IT AS WELL.

SMALL PLAY AREA.

YOU'LL HAVE ABILITY TO COME IN FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD HERE INTO THE PARK OR FROM THE LIBRARY, ALSO UP HERE FROM THE LIBRARY.

AND THEN YOU CAN ENTER THE PARK OFF OF PETERS COLONY OR OLD SETTLERS.

THE MAIN PARK MONUMENT SIGN WILL BE UP HERE AT THIS INTERSECTION.

THIS AREA HERE IS ALL PAVERS, SO IT'S GOING TO LOOK REALLY NICE.

IT'S NOT JUST CONCRETE.

THEY'RE PAVERS. THAT WAS ONE OF OUR BID ALTERNATES.

OBVIOUSLY THE PARKINGS HERE, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE A VETERAN'S MEMORIAL AREA RIGHT HERE WITH THE FLAGPOLES.

I'LL KIND OF SHOW YOU GUYS SOME RENDERINGS HERE IN A LITTLE BIT.

THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ART IN THE PARK, WHERE WE CAN PLACE IT RIGHT HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS HEAVILY TREED PARCEL LAND.

SO, IT'LL BE A NICE SETTING.

REALLY QUAINT AND QUIET AND A PLACE TO RELAX, REFLECT AND JUST ENJOY NATURE.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT THE MAIN SIGN WILL LOOK LIKE FOR THE PARK.

THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF THE WATER WALL WITH THE INTERPRETIVE PANELS THAT WILL HAVE I MENTIONED THE STONE SEATING THERE AND THE GREAT LAWN AREA.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE PAVED PAVERS THERE FOR THE WALKWAY.

THESE ARE JUST ANOTHER YOU CAN SEE THE PAVILION IN THE BACK, THE CUSTOMIZED PAVILION THAT WE'LL PUT IN.

THESE ARE THE LEGACY MONUMENTS THAT WE'LL DO.

STILL WORKING ON THOSE.

AND HOW RESIDENTS WILL BE ABLE TO MEMORIALIZE LOVED ONES ON THOSE.

WE'LL HAVE IT BY THE TIME WE OPEN.

WE'LL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A PROGRAM ON HOW PEOPLE CAN SIGN UP AND PURCHASE IF THEY WANT TO PUT A NAME ON THERE.

THIS IS THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AREA WHERE WE'LL HAVE OUR FLAGPOLES.

WE'LL ALSO HAVE BRONZE MEDALLIONS YOU CAN SEE IN THE GROUND THERE WITH THE GRANITE STRIP RIGHT THERE.

WE'LL INLAY THOSE EACH MILITARY BRANCH IN THERE.

SO THAT'LL BE KIND OF COOL.

AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THIS I I'M NOT SURE.

I THINK IT MIGHT BE GRANTED, BUT I'M NOT SURE.

THE BIG STONE THERE AND IT'S PRETTY NEAT LITTLE PIECE.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REALLY COOL AREA.

AND WE CAN DO SOME SMALLER TYPE EVENTS THERE IF WE WANT TO HOST SOME TOWN EVENTS AND MAYBE LIKE THE 911 MEMORIAL KIND OF DAY THAT WE DO, OR JUST SOME OTHER EVENTS AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO UTILIZE IT FOR DIFFERENT THINGS IF THEY WANT.

SO, THIS WAS THE COST ESTIMATE WE GOT FROM OUR ENGINEER, OUR MESA FIRM, AND IT SHOWS THAT THE BASICALLY THE TOTAL COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE AROUND 3.6 MILLION.

MATERIALS TESTING AROUND 70.

SO, THEY FIGURED IT WOULD BE ABOUT 3.7 MILLION TO BUILD THIS PARK.

ALL THE FUNDING TO HELP BUILD THIS.

WE HAVE 3.9 ROUGHLY IN CHANGE TO BUILD THE PARK, MOST OF IT COMING FROM THE TIRZ 2.5 MILLION, A LITTLE BIT FROM PARK DEVELOPMENT, AND THEN THE 750,000 FROM THE GRANT.

SO, THESE ARE THE BIDS THAT CAME BACK.

YOU CAN SEE THE BASE BID.

THE LOWEST WAS MILL DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION AT 3 MILLION.

AND WHEN WE ADD THEIR ALTERNATES, THE TOTAL COST IS GOING TO BE ABOUT 3.5 MILLION.

SO STILL UNDER BUDGET.

BRANT, OUR PARK DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, BRENNAN PELTIER, DID A GOOD JOB WITH CHECKING ALL THE REFERENCES.

WE HAVEN'T THEY HAVEN'T DONE A PROJECT HERE FOR US, BUT THEY'RE BASED OUT OF HOUSTON AND MCKINNEY.

AND YOU CAN SEE HERE ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE IN THE DFW AREA, AND THEY'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB OF DOING ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT FACILITIES.

YOU GO ON THEIR WEBSITE, THEY'VE DONE SOME PRETTY AMAZING STUFF TOO.

DOWN IN THE HOUSTON AREA.

THEY RANGE FROM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE 4.5 MILLION TO $1 MILLION PROJECT.

SO, WE FEEL REAL COMFORTABLE WITH THEM.

WE THINK THEY'LL DO A GREAT JOB.

I KNOW THEY'RE EAGER TO GET STARTED AS WELL.

AND THAT'S MY PRESENTATION.

IS THERE ANYTHING I CAN ANSWER OR I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

IF YOU COULD GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING SLIDES.

I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF FOLKS ASK ME ABOUT ADA ACCESSIBILITY FROM THE PARKING LOT TO THAT INITIAL SIDEWALK.

THIS MIGHT BE A GOOD ONE.

SO DO YOU SEE LIKE UNDER THE WORD PETERS KIND OF ON THE DIAGONAL, IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ACCESSIBLE LIKE A RAMP CUT INTO THE SIDEWALK? FROM THE ROAD? FROM THE PARKING AREA.

SO YES, EVERYTHING WILL BE ADA ACCESSIBLE AND WILL MEET.

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SO, IF SOMEONE WHO IS DISABLED DOES NOT PARK IN THE HANDICAPPED SPOTS, WHICH ARE WAY FAR AWAY, THERE'S NO WAY FOR THEM TO GET UP ONTO THE SIDEWALK FROM THE EXISTING PARKING.

IF THE CURRENT PARKING THAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THIS IS THE PARKING THAT'S THERE.

SO, IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO IT, THERE WOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.

OH, GOOD. OKAY. OH IS THAT FOR THE PARK THAT IT HAS ADA PARKING.

IS THAT A HANDICAPPED SPOT? RIGHT THERE TO THE RIGHT I SEE A TOUCH SCREEN.

YEAH. SO RIGHT HERE WOULD BE YOUR ADA.

OH, GOOD. OKAY.

COME ACROSS HERE AND GET IN.

AND A CUT OUT TO THE SIDEWALK.

PERFECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU BET. CHUCK, THIS PARK'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WE'VE SEEN.

I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN ANYTHING ABOUT THIS PARK, EVEN IN THE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN WAITING.

IT'S. THAT'S MY SENSE.

MAYBE I'M OVERLOOKING SOMETHING, BUT CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HISTORY AND HOW WE DECIDED TO TURN THIS PARK INTO A VETERANS MEMORIAL? HOW DID THAT COME ABOUT? IT WAS KIND OF DRIVEN A LITTLE BIT BY PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBERS AS WELL AS STAFF.

WE WERE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO KIND OF TO TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN.

LIKE A LOT OF THESE INTERPRETIVE SIGNS WILL, WILL, THEY'LL TALK ABOUT WHO WAS HERE BEFORE US AND KIND OF HOW THE TOWN BECAME THE TOWN AND DIFFERENT, LIKE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FLOWER MOUND AND JUST A LOT OF HISTORY AND THE FOLKS THAT WERE HERE.

I'LL ALSO TALK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT REGIONS THAT FLOWER MOUND FALLS IN.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATIONAL AS WELL AS AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE YOU CAN DO A MEMORIAL BENCH OR A MEMORIAL TREE, BUT THIS IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS IF THEY DO WANT TO MEMORIALIZE SOMEONE THAT WAS HERE FROM FLOWER MOUND, THIS WILL BE ANOTHER WAY TO OFFER UP SOME DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT.

AND IT WENT THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID WITH TROTTER PARK.

SO THERE WAS A LOT OF PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

WE HEARD A LOT OF DIFFERENT IDEAS AND BACK AND FORTH WITH COUNCIL AND PARKS BOARD, AND THIS IS KIND OF WHERE WE LANDED WITH IT BEING A SPECIALTY PARK.

A LOT OF THE STUFF YOU SEE IN HERE WERE THINGS THAT WE HEARD OBVIOUSLY, FROM THE PUBLIC.

SO, YOU'RE SAYING THAT VETERANS SQUARE RIGHT THERE.

YOU CAN ADD MEMORIALS LATER TO THAT AREA.

NOT NECESSARILY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE WITH THE LEGACY MONUMENTS HERE THAT WE HAVE.

WE ALSO HAVE A CHILDREN'S AREA WHERE WE CAN DO SOMETHING FOR, YOU KNOW, IF THAT UNFORTUNATELY HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD MEMORIALIZE YOUTH. THERE'S A SMALL AREA FOR THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. WELL, THIS IS GREAT.

I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING STARTED.

I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF EXCITEMENT. I THINK OUR VETERANS LIAISON BOARD WAS RIGHT.

PART OF THIS DESIGN.

YEP. THEY WERE PART THAT. WE WENT OVER THE VETERANS MEMORIAL AREA PRETTY HEAVILY WITH THEM, AND I KNOW THEY WERE REAL HAPPY WITH IT.

I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE GOOD TO SEE IT WHEN IT'S DONE.

I REALLY CAN'T WAIT. THANKS, CHUCK.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY WANT TO. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? READY? I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K ONE, PETERS COLONY MEMORIAL PARK AS WRITTEN.

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CAN WE TAKE THE ROLL? PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THE WORK.

IT LOOKS GORGEOUS. NEXT ITEM ON OUR REGULAR ITEMS LIST IS THE BORDEAUX WAY.

[K.2. Bordeaux Way Concrete Panel Replacements - Consider approval of the purchase of concrete removal and replacement services from Apex Concrete Construction, Inc., for work associated with Bordeaux Way Reconstruction project, through the Town of Flower Mound contract No. 2023-56-A, Concrete and Drainage Improvement Services, in the amount of $1,439,864.63.]

CLAY RIGGS IS GOING TO GIVE THE PRESENTATION ON THIS.

YES. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS YOU STATED, MAYOR, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE BOARD OF BORDEAUX WAY CONCRETE PANEL REPLACEMENT PROJECT.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE TWO COMMA RULE PROJECTS.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF THE PROJECT'S GOING TO INCLUDE REMOVING THE FAILED CONCRETE PANELS, ABOUT 7500YD² WORTH.

EXTENSIVE SUBGRADE IMPROVEMENTS WILL ALSO BE DONE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONLY GOOD AS GOOD AS THAT SUBGRADE.

SO, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT REPAIRED.

THEN WE'RE ALSO GOING TO SEAL ALL THE JOINTS AND EVERYTHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

CONSTRUCTION WILL BE PERFORMED SO THAT FOLKS CAN KEEP ACCESS TO THEIR HOMES.

AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE PICTURES OF THE FAILED PANELS THERE.

OKAY, SO THE BORDEAUX WAY PROJECT IS OUT IN THE VINEYARD SUBDIVISION, WHICH IS OVER THERE OFF OF CROSS TIMBERS, KIND OF OUT WEST, KIND OF IN THE TOUR 18 GENERAL AREA. WE, WE BASICALLY HAVE BORDEAUX WAY WHICH ENTERS IN AND THEN BORDEAUX CIRCLE, WHICH CIRCLES AND THEN BORDEAUX COURT.

SO THIS IS KIND OF KIND OF TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE THOSE PANELS ARE THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE REPLACING.

WE ALSO HELD A BASICALLY A SUBDIVISION MEETING WHERE WE MET WITH THE RESIDENTS ON JUNE 13TH.

WE DISCUSSED THIS PROJECT, THE PANEL REPLACEMENTS, KIND OF A PROJECT TIMELINE, TRAFFIC CONTROL AND ALSO AN ASPHALT OVERLAY ALTERNATIVE THAT THAT THEY RESPONDED THAT

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SO, BUT EITHER WAY, THE CONCRETE PANELS NEED TO BE REPLACED.

WE'RE GOING TO USE OUR ANNUAL CONTRACT.

THIS IS ONE THAT WE HAVE PRICES FOR VARIOUS DIFFERENT QUANTITIES OF MATERIAL THAT COVERS SUBGRADE TREATMENT, PAVING, RETAINING WALLS, A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND SO IN ORDER TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE, WE'RE LOOKING AT 1.439864, BASICALLY $1.4 MILLION PROJECT SCHEDULE. WE'RE EXPECTING TO START TOWARD THE END OF AUGUST AND BE DONE BY DECEMBER 23RD.

SO ABOUT FOUR MONTHS.

WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OLDER PART OF TOWN.

THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

DO WE KNOW WHY THIS SEEMS TO BE IN SUCH TERRIBLE, TERRIBLE CONDITION? WAS IT SOMETHING THAT WASN'T DONE.

YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE WOULD DO IT NOW, BACK THEN AND THAT LED TO THE DEMISE OF THE PANELS? I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE EXACT DATE.

I BELIEVE THIS WAS IN THE 70S, THAT THIS WAS INSTALLED.

SO THE FACT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY MADE IT THIS LONG IS PRETTY, PRETTY IMPRESSIVE.

PRETTY GOOD. OKAY. NOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN AND WE'VE NOTICED OUT THERE IS THERE ARE SUBGRADE ISSUES AND SOME OF THE PLACES, BUT AND MAJORITY OF THE SUBDIVISION SUBGRADE IS ACTUALLY REALLY GOOD IN THE CONCRETE IS GOOD, BUT THE CONCRETE'S STARTING TO AGE.

AND SO WE'RE KIND OF SEEING IT SPALLING.

AND THAT'S WHERE THE ALTERNATIVE WAS.

THOUGHT HERE WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD SPOT.

SO I WOULD SAY PROBABLY NOT IN AS BAD A SHAPE AS I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE.

WELL, I LIKE THE FACT THAT YOU WENT TO THE RESIDENCE.

YOU ALL WENT TO THE RESIDENCE.

YOU TALKED TO THEM TO SEE IF THEY WANTED THE CONCRETE REPLACEMENT VERSUS THE ASPHALT OVERLAY, WHICH THE ASPHALT OVERLAY WOULD HAVE BEEN CHEAPER, BUT THE ESTHETICS OF IT JUST WASN'T APPEALING TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

YEAH. SO I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO MAKE THE RESIDENTS HAPPY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE LIVING, RIGHT? SO, MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO DRILL DOWN INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.

SO ON SLIDE FOUR, YOU HAD THE LOCATIONS FOR THE PANEL REPLACEMENT.

AND I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS, BUT I JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE APPROACH THIS IN THE FUTURE, SINCE WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT A LOT OF ADDITIONAL ROAD RECONSTRUCTION COMING FORWARD.

SO THE CHOICE THAT YOU GAVE THEM WAS ASPHALT OVERLAY OR CONCRETE REPLACEMENT? NO. LET ME CLARIFY.

SO BEFORE WE DO THE ASPHALT OVERLAY WE HAVE TO REPAIR THE SUBGRADE AND THE CONCRETE PANELS.

WE CAN'T JUST GO OVER THE TOP OF THE FAILED FAILED CONCRETE.

WE HAVE TO PUT IN NEW GOOD CONCRETE TO THEN OVERLAY.

BUT WHAT WE WOULD DO IS WE PRESERVE WHAT ISN'T CURRENTLY FAILING.

SO IF WE IF THEY HAD OPTED INTO THE ASPHALT OVERLAY, WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS SLIDE? LIKE WOULD IT BE THE SAME RECONSTRUCTION AND AN ASPHALT OVERLAY.

YEAH, PROBABLY.

IF I WERE TO DO ANOTHER SLIDE TO SHOW YOU, I WOULD JUST SHOW YOU ANOTHER ONE WITH THE WHOLE STREET PAINTED A DIFFERENT COLOR OR HIGHLIGHTED A DIFFERENT COLOR AND SAY, THIS IS EVERYTHING WE'RE OVERLAYING.

BUT THE BIG DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THIS WOULD BE CLOSER TO $2 MILLION.

AND THE IDEA IS THAT ADDITIONAL 500,000 555,000 WOULD EXTEND THAT LIFE BY ABOUT TEN YEARS.

AND SO INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT DOING A FULL RECONSTRUCTION TEN YEARS FROM NOW OR 15 YEARS FROM NOW, WE'D BE LOOKING AT, WELL, MAYBE WE GO WHEN WE MILL THAT ASPHALT OFF AND PUT IT BACK DOWN AGAIN. SO, IF WE DON'T DO THE ASPHALT OVERLAY, WHICH THEY'VE OPTED NOT INTO, WE'RE GOING TO BE BACK IN TEN YEARS DOING MORE ADDITIONAL RECONSTRUCTION ON THIS.

PROBABLY 10 TO 15. AND WE ESTIMATED THAT A FULL RECONSTRUCTION IS ABOUT 6 TO $7 MILLION.

NOW, ARE THEY AWARE OF THAT? YES. OKAY.

WELL, I MEAN, AS MUCH AS I, YOU KNOW, I LIKE MAYOR, YOU SAID MAKING SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE GETTING WHAT THEY WANT.

I MEAN, IF WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT MAKING THESE ROADS LAST LONGER AND LOWERING OUR COSTS TO MAINTAIN.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ASPHALT IS NOT THE ANSWER, BUT SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO, SOMETHING I DON'T THINK JUST RECONSTRUCTING EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE THE OPTION, JUST GIVEN THESE HIGH COSTS. AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS, AND MAYBE THAT MEANS YOUR ROAD CHANGES FROM CONCRETE TO ASPHALT.

I WAS DRIVING DOWN, I WAS GOING TO THE BAND CAMP FOR MARCUS, AND IT WAS AT THAT PARK IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE, AND THEY HAD ASPHALT FOR HIGHLAND VILLAGE ROAD. AND HONESTLY, MAYBE AS IT WEARS, IT AGES, IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK THAT MUCH DIFFERENT THAN CONCRETE, I DON'T KNOW.

IT TAKES A LITTLE TIME TO CHANGE COLOR, BUT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S A STICKER SHOCK IS PRETTY SERIOUS.

AND IF THERE'S A WAY FOR US TO PAY A LITTLE LESS OR A LITTLE MORE UP FRONT, BUT GET A LOT MORE LIFESPAN OUT OF IT, I REALLY DO WANT US TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THAT.

I DON'T WANT US TO JUST SAY, WELL, RESIDENTS DON'T WANT IT.

I MEAN, I AND I CAN TELL YOU AGREE, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, I TALKED TO CARROLLTON, PLANO, ADDISON, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE.

I KNOW THEIR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTORS.

AND WE TALK ABOUT THIS OFTEN.

WHAT ARE STRATEGIES TO EXTEND THAT CONCRETE LIFE?

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SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE'RE ALWAYS EXPLORING NEW WAYS, I THINK WE TALKED ABOUT ONE WAY THAT WAS KIND OF UP AND COMING, BUT PROBABLY NOT VERY COST EFFECTIVE AND PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE AROUND VERY LONG.

YEAH. SO I GUESS I'LL JUST PUT IT THIS WAY.

IF THE CHOICE IS YOU WANT CONCRETE OR ASPHALT, EVERYBODY'S GOING TO PICK CONCRETE.

BUT IF THE CHOICE IS ASPHALT AND LOWER TAXES OR CONCRETE AND HIGHER TAXES, THAT COULD CHANGE PEOPLE'S PERCEPTIONS A LITTLE BIT.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE MY HEAD'S AT.

IT'S ON IT. SO, I DON'T WANT US TO ABANDON THIS MAINTENANCE PROGRAM TOO QUICKLY.

I THINK IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S AN EDUCATIONAL ELEMENT THERE.

AND THAT COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, TO LET THE GREATER TOWN KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE AND PERHAPS NEEDING TO DO A BOND IN THE FUTURE. I MEAN, WE NEED TO EDUCATE THEM ABOUT WHAT DOES IT COST AND WHAT WILL IT COST, AND WHAT'S THE IMPLICATION? BUT I WAS ALSO GOING TO ASK PARTS OF THAT ROAD LOOK LIKE THEY WERE IN VERY BAD STATE OF DISREPAIR.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD MAYBE CHANGE OUR SCORING SO THAT WE GET TO SOME OF THESE FASTER, SO THAT THE INTERVENTION IS MORE MINIMIZED? YES. AND IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LOOKING AT AS JOHN KIND OF MENTIONED, WITH THE BOND, WE CAN SHIFT A LOT OF THAT DEDICATED SALES TAX DOLLARS INTO MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES.

SO SUCH AS THIS ONE, WE WOULD PROBABLY HAVE GONE AND DONE MORE EXTENSIVE CRACK SEALING.

JOINT SEALING.

THE OTHER THING WE COULD HAVE DONE TOO IS, WELL, WE'VE HAVE DONE IT ALREADY IS PUT SOME ASPHALT IN THERE TO KIND OF MAKE IT SO IT'S NOT SO ROUGH.

UNFORTUNATELY, THE PROBLEM YOU HAVE WITH CONCRETE IS JUST WHEN IT STARTS TO FAIL, IT FAILS.

SO, THANK YOU.

AND CLAY, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT THIS ASPHALT OVERLAY AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT.

JUST MORE IN A MORE PUBLIC AREA.

THAT'S NOT RESIDENTIAL, RIGHT? YEAH. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE THOUGHT THIS ONE WAS IDEAL IS BECAUSE IT IS.

IN FACT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SHOWED IN OUR PRESENTATION IS A COUPLE OF NEIGHBORHOODS RIGHT NEXT TO IT ARE ASPHALT.

AND SO THIS BEING A RURAL AREA WITH THE DITCHES ON THE SIDE, NOT CONCRETE CURB AND GUTTER AND THINGS, WE KIND OF FELT LIKE THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO KIND OF TEST IT OUT ON, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT OTHER SPOTS.

YEAH. SO IS THIS SOMETHING WE WANT TO TRY TO TABLE? AND I GUESS WE CAN'T AT THIS POINT.

WE CAN. I MEAN, THE REPAIR HAD TO BE DONE REGARDLESS OF WHETHER, WELL, IT HAS TO BE DONE.

CORRECT. BUT I'M SAYING WE'LL ONLY GET WORSE, IS IT? IT HAS TO BE DONE. BUT IS THIS SOMETHING WE NEED TO GO BACK TO THE RESIDENTS AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS SOME EDUCATION THAT THE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL WAS WHEN WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THIS, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE CAME FORWARD AND ASKED HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE WERE DIRECTED TO TAKE IT TO A MEETING AND ASK THEM, SHOW THEM THE DIFFERENCES IN COST, SHOW THEM THE DIFFERENCES IN WHAT THE ESTHETICS WOULD LOOK AND LET THEM MAKE A DECISION.

AND SO THEY HAVE BEEN EDUCATED.

THEY CAME BACK OVERWHELMINGLY, AND THAT'D BE A QUESTION THAT I'D HAVE FOR COUNCIL.

IF WE CAN IDENTIFY ANOTHER PROJECT WHERE THIS WOULD BE APPLICABLE AND WE THINK IT MIGHT WORK WELL, WOULD THAT BE THE APPROACH THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO CONTINUE TO DO OR I SHAKE MY HEAD. NO, ONLY BECAUSE CASE BY CASE BY CASE, I THINK EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD SAY NO, BECAUSE THE COST OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WILL BE BORNE BY THE WHOLE TOWN, SO THEY HAVE NOTHING TO LOSE.

BUT I THINK FROM AN EDUCATIONAL STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO LET THE WHOLE TOWN KNOW IF WE CONTINUE TO DO THIS, THIS IS HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST VERSUS, YOU KNOW, THIS OTHER APPROACH WHERE WE CAN CATCH IT A STITCH IN TIME SAVES NINE IDEA.

AND THEN PERHAPS DO ASPHALT IN SOME OF THE AREAS BECAUSE I THINK CASE BY CASE THEY'RE JUST GOING TO SAY, NO, NO, YOU PAY FOR IT.

SO I AGREE WITH AND TIFFANY, I'LL JUST ADD THAT I AGREE WITH ANNE IF THE CHOICE IS DO YOU WANT A NICE NEW CONCRETE ROAD OR AN ASPHALT ROAD.

THEY'RE GOING TO SAY CONCRETE. BUT IF THE CHOICE IS DO YOU WANT AN ASPHALT NICE NEW ASPHALT ROAD OR YOUR SAME BUSTED UP FALLING APART ROAD, THAT COULD BE A DIFFERENT OUTCOME IN HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT.

SO MAYBE THE CHOICE IS NICE NEW ASPHALT ROAD OR WE JUST STATUS QUO THAT.

AND THEN. THEN I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THEY THOUGHT, WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE ON.

THAT WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTING TO WITH THE WITH THE ROAD THAT YOU MENTIONED IN HIGHLAND.

HIGHLAND VILLAGE BEING KIND OF RIGHT IN OUR BACK DOOR.

I KNOW PLANO AND CARROLLTON AND IRVING WHO DO THIS QUITE EXTENSIVELY ON THEIR ON THEIR ARTERIAL ROADS, HAVE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS FROM IT.

THE INITIAL RESPONSE FROM THOSE RESIDENTS WAS WAS NEGATIVE.

AND BUT NOW THEY LOVE IT BECAUSE THOSE ROADS ARE SO MUCH SMOOTHER.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ASPHALT OVERLAY.

YES. OKAY. WOULD YOU LIKE STAFF TO LOOK AT PROJECTS WE HAVE COMING UP IN THE CIP AND MAYBE COME UP WITH ANOTHER PROJECT OR A COUPLE OF PROJECTS THAT WE MIGHT BRING FORWARD TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT LOOKING AT THAT OPTION AGAIN.

YEAH, DEFINITELY. I THINK I'D LIKE THAT.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE SAYING, THAT IF GIVEN THE CHOICE, EVERYONE'S GOING TO WANT CONCRETE.

HOWEVER, I THINK ASPHALT IS A VIABLE SOLUTION IN A LOT OF APPLICATIONS, MAYBE NOT IN DISCRETE NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT IF WE DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, AREAS WHERE IT WOULD BE VIABLE WHERE

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I WOULD CERTAINLY BE INTERESTED IN THAT.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT WOULD BE MORE MILES.

MAYBE NOT. WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF MILES IN NEIGHBORHOODS.

SO YEAH, I THINK IT'D BE WORTH LOOKING AT.

OKAY. I THINK THAT WE DO LIKE IT AND WE THINK THAT IT'S A VERY VIABLE OPTION.

SO, WE WOULD LIKE TO COME FORWARD WITH A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND MAYBE BRING THEM TO YOU AND TALK ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE A GOOD PILOT PROJECT FOR US TO DO IT ON.

THERE IS ONE OFF KIRKPATRICK.

I THINK IT MAY BE STAPLETON THAT HAS ASPHALT.

IT LOOKED RECENT AND IT LOOKED GREAT.

THE RESIDENTS ALONG THAT HAD CONCRETE DRIVEWAYS.

AND I DON'T THINK IT LOOKED BAD AT ALL.

AND IT WAS A NICE SMOOTH STREET.

WE CAN DO THAT. WHAT ARE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPLICATIONS OF ONE VERSUS THE OTHER IS ABOUT THE SAME.

I WOULD SAY ONE IS THE SAME.

ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS YOU HAVE MORE HEAT COMING OFF OF THE BLACK ASPHALT VERSUS CONCRETE.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT MORE TREES CAN HELP THAT SHADE.

YEAH A LITTLE BIT.

NO ISSUES WITH LIKE THE PETROLEUM.

NO, NO NOTHING LIKE THAT.

IN FACT, TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GO INTO A CONCRETE PLANT AND MAKE THE CONCRETE, CRUSH THE ROCK AND MIX THE CEMENT AND THE SILICA AND ALL THE ASPHALT MATERIALS THAT ARE ABOUT THE SAME ENVIRONMENTALLY.

ALL RIGHT. WELL, ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION OR ANY MORE DISCUSSION? I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K TWO AS PRESENTED SECOND.

OKAY. THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

THE MOTION PASSES.

IT IS NOW 6:46.

AND THIS MEETING, THIS TOWN COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.