K.1. Health Sciences Feasibility Study - Presentation of the feasibility study on expanding academic health sciences and clinical programs in Flower Mound, conducted by Tripp Umbach, Inc.

[K.1. Health Sciences Feasibility Study - Presentation of the feasibility study on expanding academic health sciences and clinical programs in Flower Mound, conducted by Tripp Umbach, Inc. ]

ITEM NUMBER ONE IS THE HEALTH SCIENCES FEASIBILITY STUDY.

WE'LL HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY RAY WILSON OR WATSON.

SORRY. DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

MAYOR. COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT.

AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR A LITTLE OVER A YEAR, AND WE ARE BRINGING THIS BACK TO YOU.

ABOUT A YEAR AGO, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT OPPORTUNITIES FOR OFFICE AND DIFFERENT TYPES OF BUSINESS THAT WOULD FIT INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND FIT THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT ALREADY LIVE HERE, BUT ALSO THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE.

AND SO THAT LED US TO START WORKING ON HEALTH SCIENCES AND LOOKING AT BRINGING IN EDUCATIONAL HEALTH SCIENCES.

WE THEN PASSED THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A REPORT AND A STUDY TO SEE WHAT KIND OF NEED THAT WAS.

AND SO WE AFTER LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT GROUPS, WE WERE ABLE TO HIRE THE TRIPP UMBACH GROUP.

PAUL UMBACH IS HERE TONIGHT TO PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS.

THOSE FINDINGS WERE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS, WHICH MOST OF YOU ALL WERE INVOLVED IN AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

BUT WE'RE GOING TO I'LL INTRODUCE PAUL.

HE'S ONE OF THE PARTNERS WITH TRIPP UMBACH, AND HE'LL COME UP AND DO A PRESENTATION.

BUT I ALSO WANTED TO INTRODUCE REAL QUICK COLE JOHNSON, WHO IS SITTING AT THE BACK OF THE ROOM.

HE IS THE VICE CHANCELLOR OF GOVERNMENT RELATIONS, AS WELL AS SPECIAL ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT FOR TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY.

AND THEY HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS SINCE THE BEGINNING.

AND WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND PUTTING THIS BACK IN FRONT OF YOU, EXCITED WHERE THIS CAN LEAD US.

AND PAUL WILL GET MORE INTO WHAT THE OPPORTUNITIES ARE, BUT IF I'LL BE UP HERE AS WELL.

BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, PLEASE LET US KNOW.

THIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT WILL THEN BE TAKEN BACK WITH WHATEVER COMMENTS ARE MADE TONIGHT, AND THEN FINALIZED INTO A FINAL DOCUMENT THAT WILL THEN BE SHARED

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WITH THE HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER, AND THEN THAT WILL MOVE FORWARD INTO SOME KIND OF A PROJECT THAT WILL HOPEFULLY BE BACK IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR FUTURE OPPORTUNITIES. SO WITH THAT, I'LL BRING MR. UMBACH UP. OKAY.

SO, PAUL, IF YOU'LL JUST.

JUST RIGHT THERE.

YEAH. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AND MY FRIENDS AT THE TOWN ADMINISTRATION.

IT'S A REAL PLEASURE TO BE HERE.

I'VE HAD A CHANCE SINCE 1986 TO ADDRESS ABOUT 500 DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES, AND MANY OF THEM IN TEXAS, FROM TYLER TO EL PASO, DOWN TO BEAUMONT AND NORTH OF HERE.

AND BUT I WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW THAT WE REALLY APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY.

I'M GOING TO GO QUICKLY.

THERE'S A LOT OF DATA IN THESE SLIDES, BUT I'M GOING TO MOVE OVER THE NUMBERS AND JUST HIT THE HIGH POINTS.

WE DID STAKEHOLDER INTERVIEWS IN THIS PROCESS, AND WE ALSO DID A LOT OF ANALYSIS AND KIND OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL SCAN.

AND THEN I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE FINDINGS THAT WE HAVE TONIGHT.

WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT OUR COMPANY.

WE'VE WORKED AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WE'VE ACTUALLY WORKED WITH MORE THAN HALF OF ALL MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN AMERICA AND HAVE HELPED START OR HAVE BEEN PART OF ALMOST ALL OF THE NEW MEDICAL SCHOOLS IN TEXAS.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A CHANCE OVER THE YEARS TO WORK OVER, ALL OVER THE WORLD TOO AS FAR AWAY AS ABU DHABI AND NOW CURRENTLY IN MALTA.

AND SO WE'RE A NATIONAL EXPERT ON HEALTH SCIENCE EDUCATION, MEDICAL EDUCATION.

I STARTED THE COMPANY A LONG TIME AGO, AND THESE ARE MY TWO TEAMMATES.

AND THAT'S THE KANSAS CITY SKYLINE.

LOOKS A LOT LIKE FORT WORTH.

ACTUALLY, KANSAS CITY AND FORT WORTH ARE PRETTY SIMILAR HOT THIS TIME OF YEAR.

HERE'S SOME OF THE KEY TAKEAWAYS.

FIRST IS THAT WE NEED MORE HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS IN THE METROPLEX.

AND IT'S JUST GOING TO GROW WITH POPULATION GROWTH.

THE CURRENT SUPPLY OF THE PROGRAMS IS INSUFFICIENT EVEN TODAY TO MEET WORKFORCE DEMAND.

THERE'S A LOT OF HEALTH SCIENCE PROGRAMS THAT HAVE HIGH MARKET DEMAND AND LOW SUPPLY, AND WE THINK THAT AN ACADEMIC HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER PARTNERSHIP REALLY SHOULD BE CREATED HERE IN FLOWER MOUND TO KIND OF SET THE STAGE FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS OR SO.

I WANT TO JUST KIND OF PUT THAT INTO PERSPECTIVE FOR YOU.

25 WE'RE CLOSER TO 2050 THAN WE ARE TO 1999 TODAY, AND I ALREADY HAD A BUNCH OF KIDS BY 1999, AND I FELT I WAS ALREADY OLD.

AND WE'RE CLOSER TODAY TO 2030 THAN WE ARE TO 2020.

AND I THINK 2020 FEELS LIKE IT WAS JUST YESTERDAY.

SO TIME MOVES REALLY FAST.

AND I THINK THAT WHAT I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU TODAY FROM THE DATA IS YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE CURVE IN THE AMOUNT OF HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE NEEDED? SECOND POINT I WANT TO MAKE IS YOU THINK THAT WE NEED HEALTH CARE SERVICES, WE NEED DOCTORS.

WE NEED NURSES, WE NEED MORE HEALTH CARE SERVICES FOR OUR GROWING POPULATION.

BUT IT'S PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

SO ACTUALLY THE WORKFORCE AND THE CARE ARE INTRINSICALLY CONNECTED.

SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE COMING THROUGH HEALTH SCIENCE, UNIVERSITY PROGRAMS, MEDICAL SCHOOLS AND RESIDENCIES TO BE ABLE TO SERVE.

AND I'M GOING TO TELL YOU THAT WE'RE ALREADY BEHIND THE CURVE IN TEXAS WITH SHORTAGES IN ALL OF THOSE DISCIPLINES.

SO WE TALKED TO A BUNCH OF STAKEHOLDERS, AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT BUSINESS, CIVIC ORGANIZATIONS, WE TALKED ALSO THE FOLKS AT TEXAS TECH. TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY, HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER, HOSPITAL PEOPLE.

WE LOOKED ALSO AT SOME OF THE COMPANIES IN THE AREA AND DID TALK TO FOLKS AT FIRST RANCH.

AND WHAT WE FOUND FROM TALKING TO PEOPLE IS THAT UNIVERSALLY, THERE'S A NEED FOR EXPANDING HEALTH CARE SERVICES IN FLOWER MOUND, AND IT'S NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE POPULATION GROWTH HERE, BUT REALLY YOU'RE IN THE GROWTH CORRIDOR ALL THE WAY TO DENTON IN NORTH TEXAS OF THE FASTEST GROWING METROPOLITAN AREA IN THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

SO YOU'RE SORT OF IN THE EYE OF THE STORM OF WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE PEOPLE WANTING MORE HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

AND WE ALSO FOUND THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS ARE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW AS THE DEMOGRAPHICS CONTINUE TO CHANGE AS PEOPLE GET OLDER.

I STARTED THE BUSINESS WHEN I WAS 25 AND I WAS THAT YOUNG CONSULTANT, AND NOW I'M OVER 60 AND I'M THE OLD CONSULTANT, BUT JUST IN THAT LITTLE SNAP OF A FINGER

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ME AND THE OTHER BABY BOOMERS ALL GOT OLD AT THE SAME TIME.

AND WHO KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN? ALIGNING THE HEALTH SCIENCE EDUCATION CAMPUS WITH COMMUNITY CULTURE PLANNING, GROWTH PRIORITIES INCLUDING HEALTH, HOSPITAL AND HEALTH SYSTEM GROWTH WAS SEEN BY JUST ABOUT EVERYBODY AS VERY IMPORTANT.

DON'T JUST PUT SOMETHING OUT THERE, BUT HAVE IT BE REALLY WOVEN INTO THE FABRIC WITH THE HIGHWAYS AND ACCESSIBILITY AND TO FIND A LOCATION. AND IF I WAS HIRED TO DO SITE SELECTION, WHICH I WASN'T WE WERE HIRED TO DO MARKET ANALYSIS.

I WOULD HAVE SAID THAT THE SITE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS REALLY THE BEST SITE AND NOT JUST THE BEST SITE FOR FLOWER MOUND, THE BEST SITE FOR THE REGION, THE BEST SITE FOR THE METROPLEX.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE ALL THE HEALTH SCIENCE FACILITIES ARE, THIS IS WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE, RIGHT UP TO DENTON AND COVERING REALLY THIS KIND OF MISSING PIECE IS AN IDEAL LOCATION.

PUTTING THE GROWTH OF THE COMMUNITY, THE COST OF LIVING, HOUSING AFFORDABILITY AND OTHER IMPACTS INTO PLACE THIS IS THE KIND OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN GET EDUCATING A WORKFORCE TO PROVIDE CARE AND STAY IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

BUT UNFORTUNATELY, WHILE IN SCHOOL, IN HEALTH SCIENCE PROGRAMS, ALTHOUGH THEY COME OUT MAKING LOTS OF MONEY RNS AND BSNS AND NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND PAS.

BUT WHILE IN SCHOOL, THIS WOULD BE A DIFFICULT COMMUNITY TO LIVE IN.

SO TAKING IN SOME OF THE CONSIDERATIONS OF HOUSING AND EVEN TRANSPORTATION, THE IDEA THAT SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE HALF OF MY CHILDREN DON'T HAVE CARS AND THEY'RE ALL IN THEIR 30S NOW.

SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME YOUNG PEOPLE THAT COME HERE FOR SCHOOL WHO EXPECT PERHAPS TO GET USE PUBLIC TRANSIT OR TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT.

ALTHOUGH THE JOB CREATION AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS CRUCIAL, AND WE NEED TO COMMUNICATE THAT.

WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT STUDENTS AND FACULTY ARE LOOKING FOR IN A COMMUNITY WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE EDUCATED.

MOST OF THESE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTERS ARE IN LARGE CITIES LIKE FORT WORTH OR DALLAS, WHERE THERE'S A VARIETY OF HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES AND TRANSPORTATION.

IN THIS CASE, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MUCH MORE SUBURBAN AREA, WHICH PROVIDES SOME DIFFERENT CHALLENGES.

SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES IS REALLY URBAN DEVELOPMENT GOALS AND ENTITIES THAT WILL BE IN A SUBURBAN AREA.

AND WE'VE HAD SOME EXPERIENCE AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE NEW HEALTH SCIENCE CENTERS HAVE GROWN UP IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE RURAL OR SUBURBAN.

AND BALANCING THAT IS IMPORTANT.

AS FAR AS OPPORTUNITIES, WE SEE THIS AS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE FABRIC OF ALL THAT YOU'RE DOING IN FLOWER MOUND WITH SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO FROM K-12 TO GET FOLKS INTO HEALTH CAREERS.

THE PROXIMITY TO FUTURE HEALTH CARE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S NEEDED, THERE CERTAINLY NEEDS TO BE MORE HOSPITAL BEDS.

BUT IF YOU FOLLOW HEALTH CARE, YOU KNOW THAT HOSPITAL BEDS ARE JUST THE BEGINNING.

IT'S HOME HEALTH.

IT'S THE WHOLE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

IT'S THE DIFFERENT KINDS OF PHYSICIAN OFFICES AND PUTTING THIS ALL TOGETHER AS AN ECOSYSTEM OF HEALTH, WITH THE WORKFORCE BEING PART OF THE DELIVERY, WILL PUT YOU IN A VERY STRONG POSITION.

SO WHEN WE LOOK AT OCCUPATIONAL OUTLOOK, WE HAVE TO START THINKING ABOUT GROWTH AND SIZE OF GROWTH.

WELL, YOU'RE AT 8.1 MILLION PEOPLE RIGHT NOW ACCORDING TO THE LATEST THIS IS THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX, OKAY, DALLAS METRO.

AND WE'RE NOW LOOKING AT IN JUST FIVE YEARS AND SIX MONTHS SURPASSING 10 MILLION PEOPLE BY 2032.

AND THEN SOME PEOPLE SAY, AND NOW I'M USING THE WORD MAY, THAT BY 2050, AT THE RATE YOU'RE GOING, YOU'LL REACH 16 MILLION PEOPLE AND BE SURPASSED LOS ANGELES.

AND YOU PROBABLY SAW THE DATA THAT CAME FROM THE 2100 STUDY THAT YOU'LL HAVE 30 MILLION PEOPLE AND YOU'LL BE BIGGER THAN NEW YORK CITY BY 2100. NOW, WE ALL KNOW THAT THESE THINGS CHANGE.

AND REMEMBER 2100 IS ONLY AS CLOSE AS 1950.

AND THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM.

I DON'T THINK ANY.

IT'S A VERY YOUNG CROWD, BUT THERE ARE PROBABLY SOME PEOPLE IN THIS ROOM THAT WERE BORN AROUND 1950, AND THEY'RE AS OLD AS 2100 IS.

I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THE MAP AND SEE THAT THE COUNTIES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DENTON COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, IS IN THE FASTEST GROWTH CORRIDOR.

AND WHILE ALL THE OTHER METROS HAVE 1 OR 2 OF THOSE BRIGHT COLORS, ONLY THE DALLAS FORT WORTH METROPLEX HAS FOUR.

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SOME PEOPLE MIGHT SAY, WELL, IMMIGRATION IS GOING TO CHANGE.

THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. THERE'LL BE FEWER PEOPLE COMING FROM OTHER COUNTRIES.

AND SO WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE NONIMMIGRANT POPULATION.

BUT IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT IT, LOOK AT HOW BIG THE ORANGE IS HERE.

THAT'S SHOWING THAT ABOUT 100,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR CAME TO THE METROPLEX FROM DOMESTIC MIGRATION.

THESE ARE PEOPLE FROM OHIO AND PENNSYLVANIA AND MICHIGAN AND ALL KINDS OF NEW JERSEY AND ALL KINDS OF PLACES.

I DIDN'T MENTION CALIFORNIA.

THEY COME FROM THERE, TOO.

AND THEN YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, WHAT ABOUT NATURAL INCREASE? WELL, THERE IS A DECREASE IN NATURAL INCREASE.

THOSE ARE PEOPLE THAT ARE BORN IN THE METROPLEX.

AND YOU CAN THEN SEE THE MIGRATION.

SO THESE TRENDS ARE PROBABLY NOT GOING TO CHANGE THAT MUCH.

WHICH MEANS THAT EVEN IF YOU TOOK THE BIG PROJECTION OF 30 MILLION AND MADE IT 15 MILLION, YOU ALREADY TODAY IN THE AREA, IN THE REGION HAVE FEWER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS PER PERSON ACROSS THE BOARD.

AND ALSO YOUR OLDER IN THE METROPLEX AND THE REST OF TEXAS.

AND WHAT DO WE KNOW ABOUT OLDER PEOPLE? THEY NEED MORE HEALTH CARE.

SO WE'RE KIND OF BEHIND THE CURVE AND THEN WE'RE REALLY BEHIND THE CURVE.

HEALTH CARE HAS BEEN GROWING FAST.

IN 2023 LAST YEAR, IT GREW TWO AND A HALF TIMES FASTER THAN ALL OTHER INDUSTRIES.

1 IN 4 JOBS ARE CREATED IN HEALTH CARE.

YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT GOING WAY BACK.

HEALTH CARE AS AN ECONOMY IS ABOUT 5 TRILLION NOW.

T'S WOULD BE THE FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD OF IF IT WAS ITS OWN COUNTRY.

SO WE'RE AT A PLACE WHERE WE DON'T SEE THIS SLOWING DOWN.

AND YET PEOPLE NEED SOMEBODY, A PERSON WHO IS TRAINED TO COME AND CHECK OUT OUR EARS OR LOOK AT OUR KNEE.

OR I COULD ASK RAY ALL OTHER THINGS THAT HE'S GONE THROUGH.

SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT NEED TO HELP US GET GET BETTER.

WHERE ARE THE FASTEST GROWING OCCUPATIONS FOR HEALTHCARE NATIONALLY? WE JUST CAN'T GET ENOUGH NURSE PRACTITIONERS.

WE ALSO NEED A LOT OF PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS.

AND YOU START LOOKING AT THIS LIST AND REALLY ACROSS THE BOARD THERE BETWEEN NOW AND 2031.

THEY'RE GROWING FAST. WHAT I WOULD SAY TO ANY OF THE DATA YOU'RE LOOKING AT PUT A TIMES TWO ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS NATIONALLY.

WHAT ABOUT IN TEXAS? EVEN MORE, WHAT ABOUT IN THE METROPLEX? EVEN MORE AND MORE? SO WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO AND I SWEPT THROUGH SOME OF THE DATA HERE, WHEN WE WERE ASKED TO EVALUATE PROGRAMS THESE WERE THE PROGRAMS THAT WERE WERE GIVEN TO US TO EVALUATE.

AND WE HAVE WORKED TO START PROGRAMS IN EVERY ONE OF THESE OVER THE COUNTRY OVER THE LAST 35 YEARS.

YOU MIGHT NOTICE RIGHT AWAY THERE'S NO MEDICAL DOCTOR PROGRAM ON HERE.

WHY AREN'T YOU STUDYING THE NEED FOR MORE DOCTORS? WELL, IN THIS PROJECT, DOCTORS COME OUT OF RESIDENCY PROGRAMS, AND THAT'S MORE YOUR HOSPITAL PARTNERS PURVIEW.

WHILE THE TEXAS TECH UNIVERSITY, A&M, UT AND NOW NEW SCHOOLS THAT HAVE EMERGED LIKE TEXAS CHRISTIAN PRODUCE GRADUATES FROM MEDICAL SCHOOL THAT GET AN MD DEGREE OR TCOM AND SAM HOUSTON THAT AND INCARNATE WORD THAT GET A D.O. DEGREE.

ALL THOSE MEDICAL STUDENTS HAVE TO GO THROUGH RESIDENCY.

SO WE DON'T FEEL THAT FOR YOUR PROJECT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT STARTING A MEDICAL SCHOOL TO CREATE MORE STUDENTS.

WHAT YOU NEED IS MORE HOSPITALS IN THE AREA, AND WHATEVER HOSPITAL YOU SELECT NEEDS TO BE A TEACHING HOSPITAL THAT HAS RESIDENCY PROGRAMS SO THAT THEY CAN PRODUCE DOCTORS THAT STAY IN THE REGION AND TEXAS IS WAY BEHIND THE CURVE IN THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENCIES THAT ARE NEEDED.

SO THESE ARE THE PROGRAMS WE LOOKED AT.

WE PUT THEM ALL UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.

AND WE CAME OUT WITH THESE HIGH PRIORITY AREAS, NURSING AT ALL LEVELS.

AND YOU MIGHT SAY, WELL, THAT'S REALLY EASY.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN AT ALL LEVELS? WELL, ONE THING ABOUT NURSING THAT'S VERY INTERESTING IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GET A BACHELOR'S IN NURSING HAD AN ASSOCIATE'S, AND ALMOST EVERYBODY THAT I KNOW THAT GETS A MASTER'S IN NURSING HAVE A BACHELOR'S IN NURSING.

AND THE SAME WITH THE DOCTORATE OF NURSING OR A PHD TO BE A PROFESSOR IN NURSING.

SO YOU CAN'T LOOK AT JUST WELL, WE JUST WANT THIS ONE KIND OF NURSE.

LET'S HIRE THEM OR LET'S START A SCHOOL FOR THEM.

AND I WON'T BORE YOU WITH ACCREDITATION BECAUSE YOU REALLY CAN'T START A SCHOOL THAT GIVES A DOCTORATE OR A MASTER'S IN NURSING.

YOU HAVE TO GIVE THE BASE DEGREE.

AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE MENTAL HEALTH AREA, THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PLAYERS IN THAT, AND THEY'RE ALL AT SEVERE, SEVERE SHORTAGES FROM

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CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY AT A DOCTORATE LEVEL, MASTERS OF SOCIAL WORK AND ALL THE DIFFERENT [INAUDIBLE], AND PSYCHOLOGISTS AND THERAPISTS. AND SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS WE'RE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE BEFORE COVID AND THEN COVID HAPPENED.

AND THEN AT THE SAME TIME, THE THIRD AREA IS THE PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS AND PAS ARE NEEDED AS HEALTH CARE CONTINUES TO GROW.

NOW I GOT TWO PRIORITIES THAT DON'T EXIST IN TEXAS.

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THERE'S NO DENTAL SCHOOL IN THE METROPLEX, THE ONLY METRO AREA EVEN NEAR ITS SIZE WITHOUT A DENTAL SCHOOL.

AND THERE'S NO OPTOMETRY SCHOOL.

SO IF YOU DO THE MATH, THAT'S ABOUT 60 MILLION EYES BY 2100.

NO OPTOMETRY SCHOOL.

AND SO AND THOSE HAVE BIG ECONOMIC IMPACT BECAUSE THEY HAVE A DENTAL SCHOOL OR OPTOMETRY SCHOOL WILL BE A BIGGER PROGRAM.

AND I FEEL THAT THE TIME IS RIGHT AND YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NO OTHER SCHOOLS LIKE THOSE TWO.

KIND OF SURPRISING THAT EVERY OTHER MAJOR CITY HAS ALL OF THE PROGRAMS AND THIS MEGA REGION DOESN'T HAVE EITHER OF THOSE.

I'M NOT GOING TO TAKE YOU THROUGH ALL THESE SLIDES.

THE GOOD NEWS IS, [INAUDIBLE] CAME THE HAPPIEST MOMENT.

THE SECOND HAPPIEST MOMENT IS WHEN I TOLD YOU, YOU'RE A GREAT COMMUNITY.

YOUR HAPPIEST MOMENT IS GOING TO BE WHEN I'M DONE.

SO WHAT I'M DOING NOW IS SHOWING YOU THAT IN THE REPORT YOU'RE GOING TO GET THERE ARE DEMAND SUPPLY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SCORES.

AND FOR NURSING YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S A 4 OR 5 IN DEMAND WITH A 6% GROWTH FASTER THAN AVERAGE.

AND YOU'LL SEE THEN THE SUPPLY IN THE NEXT SLIDE.

HERE ARE ALL THE NURSING PROGRAMS IN THE METROPLEX.

WELL AS YOU CAN SEE, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF PROGRAMS. BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF NURSES THAT COME OUT OF THESE PROGRAMS AT THE MASTER'S LEVEL AND THE NURSE PRACTITIONER LEVEL, THEY'RE WOEFULLY BELOW WHAT IS NEEDED FOR THE MARKET'S DEMAND.

SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE'RE NOT GROWING OUR OWN.

SO HOSPITALS HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND NATIONALLY RECRUIT OR USE RENTAL NURSE PROGRAMS OR GO INTO THE MARKET, THE FREE MARKET AND PAY $200,000 FOR A NURSE PRACTITIONER UP TO $300,000.

AND THAT CAUSES HEALTH CARE COSTS TO GO UP.

AND IT HELPS. IT HURTS THE FINANCIAL MODEL.

SO NOW WE'RE PAYING FOR A WORKFORCE THAT WE DIDN'T CREATE.

SO THERE'S SO FEW THAT ARE COMING INTO THE MARKET.

SO WE FEEL THAT THERE'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR GROWTH THERE.

AND THE SAME WITH MENTAL HEALTH AND THE DIFFERENT PSYCHIATRISTS, 18% FASTER GROWTH FOR MENTAL HEALTH.

THAT'S THE HIGHEST OF ANY OCCUPATION IN AMERICA.

YOU JUST CANNOT FIND PEOPLE TO BE.

AND IT'S NOT A MARKET THAT'S DEFINED BY JUST ONE SPECIALTY.

WE NEED FOLKS IN MENTAL HEALTH, WITH ADOLESCENTS, WITH CHILDREN, WITH ADULTS, WITH OLDER ADULTS.

AND THEN WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH DRUG AND ALCOHOL SUBSTANCE ABUSE DUAL DIAGNOSIS.

SO IT'S A CRISIS.

AND THE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T HAVE GOOD MENTAL HEALTH ARE COMMUNITIES THAT DON'T DO WELL ECONOMICALLY EITHER, BECAUSE A WORKFORCE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME, THE HEALTHY MENTAL PART CAN'T BE AS PRODUCTIVE.

SO I THINK THERE'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POTENTIAL FOR JOBS AND JOB CREATION AND FOR COMPANIES THAT THRIVE.

AND THEN YOU START LOOKING AT ALL THE DIFFERENT OCCUPATIONS FOR PEOPLE JUST WITH A PSYCHOLOGY DEGREES, AND THEN THE PHYSICIAN ASSISTANTS A 27% FASTER THAN AVERAGE, I WAS WRONG.

THAT SAID, 18 WAS THE HIGHEST NUMBER.

THE DEMAND FOR PAS IS SO GREAT THAT IT SOMETIMES IS, LIKE WITH NURSE PRACTITIONERS AND OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS THAT THE DOCTORS CAN'T FLY THE PLANE.

IT'S LIKE THE DOCTOR IS THE PILOT AND THERE'S NO FLIGHT CREW.

IT'D BE LIKE BEING AT DFW IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT, AND YOU HAVE TEN PILOTS, BUT NO ONE CAN FLY THE PLANE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THE OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS THAT NEED TO GO INTO THE OPERATING ROOM WITH THEM.

AND WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE A REAL PROBLEM IN HEALTH CARE, BECAUSE ALL THESE HEALTH PROVIDERS AREN'T OUT THERE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE HOSPITALS GOING AND THE PLANES IN THE AIR. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS DOCTOR OF DENTAL MEDICINE, NO DENTAL SCHOOL, ONLY ONE IN DALLAS, A FINE ONE AND ONE IN EL PASO A NEW ONE IN SAN ANTONIO AND THEN

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THE UT HEALTH IN HOUSTON.

IT IS SURPRISING. I LOOK AT THE DATA A BUNCH OF TIMES WHEN I FIRST DID THIS TO SEE IF I WAS RIGHT, AND THEN THE SAME FOR OPTOMETRY.

THERE'S ONLY TWO OPTOMETRY SCHOOLS IN THE WHOLE STATE.

A STATE APPROACHING 30 MILLION PEOPLE.

UNIVERSITY OF HOUSTON, WHICH IS NEW AND INCARNATE WORD, WHICH IS RELATIVELY NEW.

AND YOU CAN SEE THE GROWTH FOR OPTOMETRY IS VERY STRONG AS WELL.

I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW ENJOYABLE IT WAS TO WORK WITH RAY AND WITH THE TOWN.

AND ALSO TO BE INVOLVED IN A COMMUNITY I HAVEN'T WORKED IN BEFORE, WHICH IS GREAT.

I'VE WORKED AT THE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER IN FORT WORTH.

WE HELPED THEM DO A NURSING PROGRAM, WHICH WAS GREAT.

WE ALSO HAVE HELPED THEM LOOK AT EXPANDING SOME OF THEIR PROGRAMS. I'VE NOT BEEN ABLE TO WORK HERE IN THIS PART.

I'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO BE.

I'VE NEVER BEEN HERE. BUT IT WAS GREAT.

I DID SEE THE FLOWER MOUND AND I WAS SORT OF IMPRESSED.

I THINK YOU SHOULD SHARE THE INFORMATION WITH YOUR PARTNERS.

WE'VE SIGNED PAPERS JUST SO THE MAYOR AND OTHERS KNOW THAT WE CAN GIVE THIS REPORT TO YOU, AND YOU CAN GIVE IT TO WHOEVER.

WE THINK THAT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS SHOULD COMPLETE A DETAILED FINANCIAL ANALYSIS OF ALL THESE PROGRAMS. WHAT WE SAID WAS, THESE PROGRAMS ARE GOING TO BE WINNERS, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

AND THEN THE MOST IMPORTANT THING I WANT TO SAY TONIGHT IS THAT YOU SHOULD CONTINUE YOUR ONGOING ENGAGEMENT WITH CLINICAL PARTNERS.

IF THERE'S ONE THING I WANT YOU TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS.

NUMBER ONE, THERE'S A NEED FOR MORE LEARNERS TO BECOME HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS, AND THIS IS THE PERFECT PLACE FOR IT.

BUT NUMBER TWO, IF THERE AREN'T CLINICAL PLACES WHERE THOSE NURSES AND OTHER HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND EYE DOCTORS AND DENTISTS GET TO PRACTICE AND SEE PATIENTS, THEY CAN'T QUALIFY AND THEY CAN'T GRADUATE.

SO EVERYBODY THAT YOU SEE IN A HEALTH CARE SETTING HAS TRAINED IN A HEALTH CARE SETTING BEFORE.

AND SO I WOULD URGE YOU, WHOEVER YOU BRING IN TO THE COMMUNITY FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN TRAINING THE NEXT GENERATION OF PROVIDERS.

BECAUSE JUST MORE SERVICES WITHOUT PROVIDERS ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

AND THEN I FEEL THAT YOU SHOULD BE UP AND RUNNING TO OPEN A HEALTH SCIENCE CAMPUS ON OR BEFORE 2030.

AND YOU SHOULD KEEP THE PEDAL TO THE METAL ON THAT, BECAUSE YOU'RE ALREADY BEHIND IN THE NUMBER OF WORKFORCE THAT YOU NEED JUST FOR WHO YOU HAVE TODAY.

AND IF YOUR TOWN CONTINUES TO GROW AND THE REGION GROWS, YOU'LL BE IN A CRISIS SITUATION.

IT COULD ACTUALLY BE THE ONE THING THAT BURST THE BUBBLE IN TEXAS AND THE METROPLEX OVER THE NEXT 25 YEARS IS PEOPLE JUST CAN'T GET HEALTH CARE.

AND THAT WOULD BE A REAL TRAGEDY WHEN WE HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SAY WE STARTED A PROCESS OF BUILDING A HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER AND A TEACHING HOSPITAL AT JUST THE RIGHT TIME. SO MADAM MAYOR, IS IT.

MADAM MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN CALL ME CHERYL.

CHERYL, TRY TO BE FORMAL AND AND FRIENDS THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO ANSWERING ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

I HOPE THAT WAS FAST ENOUGH.

WELL, I HAVE A QUESTION REAL QUICK.

WELL, I'VE BEEN A STUDENT AT TEXAS TECH, SO I KNOW HOW STRONG THEIR HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER IS.

BUT I WAS SURPRISED RADIOLOGIC TECHNOLOGY WAS NOT ON THAT LIST OF PROGRAMS. IS THAT JUST SEEN AS NOT A NEED IN THIS GENERAL AREA? IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

ALL OF THEM ARE NEEDS, EVERY ONE OF THEM.

BUT SOME OF THOSE ARE ANCILLARY TO THE LARGER PROGRAM BUILDING BLOCKS THAT I AM RECOMMENDING FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE THING THAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER IS YOU CAN'T JUST START ONE PROGRAM LIKE THAT.

SO I SHOULD HAVE SAID THAT AT THE BEGINNING.

SO SOME OF THE TECH PROGRAMS AND SOME OF THE ANCILLARY PROGRAMS, THEY COME WITH THE NURSING INFRASTRUCTURE, THEY COME WITH THE MEDICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEY COME WITH THE PHARMACY INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO THE BIGGER BUILDING BLOCKS THEN ALLOW THE OTHER PROGRAMS TO GROW WITH THE SAME FACULTY AND THE SAME CAPITAL AND RESOURCES.

SO I'LL MAKE THAT CLEAR IN THE REPORT THAT THESE ARE THE BIG DRIVERS, BUT THE OTHER THE OTHER SERVICES COME IN TOO.

AND IT GOES BACK TO MY ANALOGY OF FLYING A PLANE.

IF YOU DON'T HAVE TECH IN THE OPERATING ROOM, NO ONE GETS OPERATED ON THAT DAY BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S GOT TO TAKE CARE OF ALL THE TECHNOLOGY.

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SO GOOD POINT.

OKAY. DO YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I HAVE A COMMENT. I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND YOUR TEAM ON THE EFFORTS THAT YOU PUT FORTH.

I WAS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE INTERVIEWS AND SEVERAL OF THE MEETINGS, AND I THOROUGHLY ENJOYED ALL OF IT.

YOU WERE SO THOROUGH, SO PROFESSIONAL, AND REALLY LEFT NO STONE UNTURNED, WHICH I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE.

AND I LOVE THE DATA, SO I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO THE NEXT STEPS.

AND MAYBE ALSO HEARING FROM RAY WHAT THE TIMELINE WILL BE.

I KNOW WE HAVE A FINAL, FINAL REPORT COMING TO INCORPORATE ANY FEEDBACK WE OFFER, BUT AFTER THAT, WHEN DO WE GET TO DO THE NEXT THINGS? BECAUSE I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU ANN. I ENJOYED TALKING WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. GET MY BROTHER UP HERE.

ABOUT THE SAME AGE NOW.

[LAUGHTER] SO YES.

SO OUR NEXT STEPS ARE THE REPORT WILL BE FINALIZED, AND THEN WE WILL WE'VE ALREADY SIGNED DOCUMENTS WITH THE HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER TO ACTUALLY SHARE THAT REPORT WITH THEM.

AT THAT POINT, THEY WILL THEN BE LOOKING AT DOING A FEASIBILITY STUDY.

THEY WILL TAKE THIS REPORT AS AN ASSESSMENT OF NEED AND THEN GO INTO FULL BLOWN FEASIBILITY STUDY.

THAT FEASIBILITY STUDY THEN WILL HELP THEM TO DECIDE WHAT THEIR NEXT STEPS ARE, WHICH WILL LOOK AT PROBABLY WORKING WITH THE LEGISLATURE TO DESIGN AND IMPLEMENT FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.

AS FAR AS OUR NEXT STEPS FROM THE TOWN SIDE, WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH NINE CLINICAL HEALTH SYSTEMS TO INCLUDE TWO OF THE LARGEST CHILDREN'S HEALTH SYSTEMS. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH THOSE TO IDENTIFY THE CLINICAL PARTNER ON THIS THAT WOULD BE PARTNERED UP WITH THE ACTUAL EDUCATION PARTNER.

AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'LL START WORKING WITH THE LANDOWNERS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS PROJECT HAPPEN.

SO I UNDERSTAND WE'VE HAD SOME POSITIVE FEEDBACK AND HIGH INTEREST LEVELS FROM THE COUNTY AND THE STATE.

VERY MUCH SO. THE COUNTY THE JUDGE SAID THAT HE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS AT EVERY LEVEL.

AND THEN ALSO FROM BOTH OF OUR SENATOR AND BOTH OF OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES, THEY'VE SAID THEY ARE WILLING TO CARRY EVERYTHING FOR THE STATE.

SO. EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU. YES, MA'AM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS, MR. UMBACH. YEAH, SURE.

SO YOU'VE MADE A VERY COMPELLING CASE THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS HEALTH SCIENCES FACILITY IN THIS GENERAL AREA.

HOW COMPETITIVE IS THE LANDSCAPE TO TRY TO ACQUIRE THIS EDUCATION FACILITY? IS IT IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY COST HERE IF WE DRAG OUR FEET ON THIS? WELL, I THINK THAT WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME IN TEXAS, IN NORTH TEXAS AND IN THE METROPLEX SINCE THERE'S BEEN A MAJOR MOVE FOR A HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER YOU'LL SEE ACROSS THE STATE.

TYLER NOW HAS A MEDICAL SCHOOL, RIO GRANDE VALLEY.

GOT A MEDICAL SCHOOL.

IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY WEEK YOU HEAR IN THE LAST TEN YEARS THAT SOMEBODY ELSE IS MOVING FORWARD.

I THINK THESE DATA THAT I'M SHARING ARE PRETTY COMMONLY AVAILABLE.

I THINK PEOPLE CAN READ THE TEA LEAVES.

SOMEBODY COULD SOME OTHER COMMUNITY OR SOME OTHER PARTY COULD SAY, I WANT TO START A DENTAL SCHOOL, AND I DON'T KNOW ABOUT FLOWER MOUND AND WHAT YOUR YOUR PLANNING. I FEEL THAT THE ONE THING I DO KNOW FROM ALL THE PLAYERS IS THAT THEY'RE OVERWHELMED BY JUST THE REALITIES OF THEIR OWN SITUATION.

THE FOLKS IN FORT WORTH AT THE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER THERE, THE FOLKS IN DALLAS, AT THE BIG HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER THERE THEY'RE WORKING AS HARD AS THEY CAN JUST TO KEEP UP WITH THE DEMAND THAT THEY HAVE.

I DON'T SENSE THERE'LL BE ANY PUSHBACK IF A NEW HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER WAS DEVELOPED EITHER BY TECH OR BY SOME OTHER PLAYER, AS LONG AS IT'S PUBLIC, I THINK THE PUBLIC'S FIND A WAY IN TEXAS OF KEEPING THEMSELVES IN CHECK.

I THINK THE BIGGER ISSUE WOULD BE, WOULD SOME PRIVATE ORGANIZATION COME INTO THE MARKET AND NOT A IN, YOU KNOW, TEXAS CHRISTIAN HAS BEEN HERE SINCE FORT WORTH.

THEY GREW UP TOGETHER AND THEY'RE PART OF THE FABRIC OF THE COMMUNITY.

BUT COULD SOME OTHER FOR PROFIT HEALTH SCIENCE ORGANIZATION WANT TO MOVE INTO THIS MARKET? AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE COMPETITION MIGHT BE REAL.

WE'VE SEEN A PROLIFERATION RECENTLY IN FOR PROFIT HEALTH SCIENCE AND MEDICAL SCHOOLS THAT HAVE STARTED AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH VENTURE CAPITAL FUNDS IN NEW MEXICO AND IN IDAHO AND IN OTHER PLACES, COLORADO.

SO I FEEL THAT IF I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I WOULD SAY MOVE QUICKLY WITH A PUBLIC PARTNER.

AND TECH IS SUCH A GOOD PUBLIC PARTNER BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN EL PASO WHEN THEY LEFT LUBBOCK, AND IT'S JUST NATURAL THAT THEY WOULD COME RIGHT NOW BACK TO THE METROPLEX, WHERE THEY HAVE SUCH A STRONG ALUMNI BASE AND DONOR BASE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN HERE.

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THE THING I'D WATCH OUT FOR IS SOME FOR PROFIT HEALTH SCIENCE SCHOOL COME IN, AND BECAUSE THERE'LL BE STUDENTS THAT WILL WANT TO TAKE THE CLASSES, THERE'LL BE STUDENTS THAT WILL WANT TO GET THE DEGREES.

THERE'S A GREAT JOB THAT PAYS A LOT AT THE END OF THE LINE FOR THOSE STUDENTS.

SO X, Y, Z FOR PROFIT COMES IN AND IT KIND OF TAKES AWAY THE MISSION THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE FOR YOUR COMMUNITY OF SOMETHING THAT'S SUSTAINABLE AND LONG TERM.

THANK YOU. AND YOU MENTIONED THE NEED FOR SOME SORT OF TRANSIT AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

SO I'M CONCERNED THAT THIS AREA WHERE WE'RE THINKING THAT WOULD BE SUITABLE FOR THIS IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO INCLUDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND TRANSIT IS NOT LIKELY. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WHATEVER ULTIMATELY COMES FORWARD NEEDS TO INCLUDE SOME SORT OF ON SITE HOUSING FOR STUDENTS WHO ARE THERE FOR A WHILE? I THINK WHAT YOU'LL FIND IF YOU LOOK AT HEALTH SCIENCE UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE BOARD PART OF THE CAMPUS IS TO PROVIDE STUDENT HOUSING AND EVEN HOUSING FOR YOUNG START UP FACULTY.

YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WHEN YOU'RE A YOUNG FACULTY PERSON THAT'S STARTING OUT IN A CAREER BUYING THE AVERAGE HOUSE IN FLOWER MOUND, AND YOU WANT THE FACULTY TO BE CLOSE. SO I FEEL SOME HOUSING ON THE PROPERTY WOULD BE A GREAT INVESTMENT FOR THE LONG TERM.

I WOULDN'T SAY THAT YOU WOULD NEED IT OUTSIDE OF THE DEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE HERE'S THE REAL REASON YOU WANT FOLKS CLOSE.

AND THE REASON WHY DOCTORS WERE CALLED RESIDENTS WAS THAT UP UNTIL RECENT TIMES, THEY LIVED IN THE HOSPITAL UNTIL THEY WERE 26 YEARS OLD, AND THEY LEFT THE HOSPITAL.

AND THEN MARRIED. PRIESTS WERE DOING THE SAME THING AT THE SEMINARY UNTIL 26 YEARS OLD.

THEY LIVED THERE.

SO I FEEL THAT HAVING STUDENT HOUSING CLOSE BY, AND I'VE WORKED ON A FEW PROJECTS WHERE WE'VE SEEN THIS WORK SUCCESSFULLY TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE STUDENTS IN THE FACULTY, BUT NOT MAKE IT A MANDATE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY.

AS FAR AS TRANSPORTATION, IT'S BECOMING LESS OF AN ISSUE WITH THE APPS THAT WE ALL USE.

HOW I GOT HERE TODAY AND I FEEL THAT UBER, LYFT AND OTHER MODES OF TRANSIT HAVE BECOME MUCH MORE ACCESSIBLE TO STUDENTS AND TO PEOPLE OVER THE YEARS.

THERE MIGHT BE SOME POTENTIAL ON THE HIGHWAY OF INTERMODAL TRANSPORTATION OR SHUTTLES THAT COULD BE USED TO WHAT MOST PEOPLE DO NOWADAYS IS THE HEALTH SCIENCE UNIVERSITY CREATES A SHUTTLE SYSTEM, AND THEY TAKE FOLKS OCCASIONALLY TO CERTAIN PLACES WHO HAVE COME WITHOUT A CAR. SO I THINK THAT CAN BE ACCOMMODATED BY THE UNIVERSITY.

I'M HOPEFUL THAT THAT ALL THESE THINGS WILL COME INTO THE PLAN.

I THINK WHAT I WANT TO AVOID IS JUST BUILDING IT OUT THERE AND SAYING, ALL THESE STUDENTS ARE GOING TO BE OUT THERE AND NOBODY CAN BE NEAR.

AND THEY'RE ALL COMMUTING FROM SOUTH, TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY TO CLASS OR TRYING TO FIND THEIR WAY TO SERVICE.

AND I THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL THRIVE WITH THOSE LEARNERS AND PROFESSIONALS BEING HOME GROWN AS MUCH AS THE PLAN CAN ALLOW.

AND YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A MASS TRANSIT SYSTEM.

NO NO NO NO.

SHUTTLE. NO SHUTTLES.

SYSTEM. YEAH, YOU DON'T HAVE THE DENSITY FOR MASS TRANSIT AND YOU DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH.

NO, THANK YOU.

NOT. [LAUGHTER] NO, THAT WAS A GREAT POINT.

THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO CLARIFY.

I'M AN URBAN PLANNER BY TRAINING.

THAT'S HOW I STARTED MY CAREER 40 YEARS AGO, SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

WHAT I MEANT IS SOME WAY OF GETTING STUDENTS AND FACULTY TO MOVE AROUND, BECAUSE IT IS OFF CENTER FROM WHERE THE HEART OF TOWN IS, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE ON CENTER FOR WHERE THE FUTURE IS.

SO YOU'RE BUILDING IN 25 YEARS WHERE THINGS ARE GOING TO BE.

YEAH. AND I COULD SEE IT AS A COMMUTER SCHOOL IF IT WAS STRICTLY LIKE A NURSING SCHOOL.

BUT IF THIS IS IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING A DENTAL SCHOOL OR AN OPTOMETRY SCHOOL, WHICH SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD STRIVE FOR.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FULL HEALTH SCIENCES CENTER, BASICALLY.

YES. AND I WANT TO REALLY ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO THINK REALLY BIG ON THIS, BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE TRENDS, THE METROPLEX DOUBLES IN SIZE IN 2050, EVEN IF IT DOESN'T AND IT GETS 80% IS BIG, IT'S STILL A LOT OF PEOPLE.

WHERE'S THE GROWTH? WHERE'S THE CORRIDOR? SO IF YOU IMAGINE IN 25 YEARS, WHERE DO WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE TRAINING TO BE YOUR DOCTOR AND YOUR DENTIST AND YOUR DOCTOR? WELL, YOU WANT THEM TO BE THERE ON THIS CORRIDOR.

THE COMPETITIVE ADVANTAGE YOU HAVE WILL GO AWAY, BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER TOWNS THAT ALSO HAVE ROUGHLY SIMILAR GEOGRAPHY AND OPPORTUNITY ALONG THE SAME KIND OF CORRIDOR.

AND I FEEL THAT THAT YOU'RE REALLY OUT FRONT IN THINKING ABOUT THIS.

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AND ONCE SOMEBODY BUILDS THE TEACHING HOSPITALS AND THE HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER, YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER 50 YEARS BEFORE SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO BUILD ANOTHER ONE, AND THAT FOREVER MIGHT NOT HAPPEN IF OTHER TRENDS START TO CHANGE.

AND THIS IS THE ONLY NEXT HEALTH SCIENCE CENTER THAT THE METROPLEX IN THIS REGION IS EVER GOING TO GET.

I MEAN, I COME FROM PITTSBURGH, WHERE WE'VE HAD THE SAME ONE FOR 150 YEARS, AND WE ONLY HAVE ONE.

AND SO WE'RE NEVER GETTING ANOTHER ONE.

EXCEPT DUQUESNE UNIVERSITY DID START A MEDICAL SCHOOL, BUT IT'S JUST THAT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW FOR THIS.

AND I ASSUME THAT THE NEXT PLAN WILL BE INCLUDING THE HOUSING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A LITTLE WHILE AGO.

YES. RIGHT. I HAVE COMMUNICATED THAT AND WE WILL PUT THAT IN THE REPORT AS A RECOMMENDATION.

I FEEL THAT THAT'S ON THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE EDUCATIONAL PARTNERS.

DON'T FORGET HOSPITAL ALSO HOSPITALS ALSO MORE AND MORE ARE CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE HOSPITAL STAFF BECAUSE THEY HAVE FEWER TURNOVER WHEN THEIR EMPLOYEES ARE CLOSE BY.

SO IT'S KIND OF A NEW THING, BUT IT'S AN OLD THING BECAUSE BACK IN THE OLD DAYS, HOSPITALS WOULD HAVE HOUSING FOR NURSES AND OTHER FOLKS, TOO.

HEALTH CARE WORKS BETTER WHEN PEOPLE ARE PROXIMATE TO IT.

YES, YOU CAN BE A COMMUTER, BUT SOMETIMES THE DISTANCES GET SO GREAT THAT IT LOWERS THEIR EMPLOYEE SATISFACTION AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE TURNOVER.

SO I FEEL THAT THE PLAN NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ALSO NEED A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND IT WANTING HEALTH CARE SERVICES.

I DON'T FEAR THAT YOUR PLAN IS GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF CUSTOMERS.

WE JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE PROVIDING SERVICE ARE CLOSE ENOUGH SO THEY CAN GET EDUCATED AND THEN STAY IN THE COMMUNITY ONCE THEY GET THE HIGHER PAYING JOBS.

YEAH, THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

IT'S NICE TO LOOK THROUGH THE CRYSTAL BALL WITH YOU.

YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, BRIAN? NO REAL QUESTIONS.

BUT AGAIN I THINK YOU DID A PHENOMENAL JOB.

REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE EFFORT YOU AND YOUR TEAM PUT INTO THIS.

I WAS ABLE TO ATTEND THE ROUNDTABLE THAT YOU HAD HERE A MONTH OR TWO AGO, AND I THINK THAT WAS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL, HEARING FROM ALL THE STAKEHOLDERS AND INCORPORATING ALL OF THAT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE RESULTS THAT YOU'RE PRESENTING AND WHY IT IS A GOOD FIT.

AS OTHERS HAVE MENTIONED, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US.

I THINK IT FITS IN THIS AREA.

IT DRAWS IN NOT JUST IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW.

AND SO I THINK THOSE ARE SOME KEY BENEFITS AND KEY THINGS THAT'S GOING TO MAKE THIS WORK.

AND I JUST LOOK FORWARD TO RECEIVING YOUR FINAL REPORT.

AND HOPEFULLY THE FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH TEXAS TECH GOES WELL AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROCESS THROUGH.

ONE LAST THING I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH IS UNLIKE RETAIL AND OTHER INDUSTRIES, THIS IS FRESH DOLLARS COMING IN THE RESEARCH THAT A HEALTH SCIENCE UNIVERSITY TENS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF FRESH DOLLARS THAT COME FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR RESEARCH OR COME FROM THE STATE, YOU'RE BRINGING LIKE A HOSE OF MONEY THAT COMES IN.

YOU ALSO HAVE STUDENTS THAT COME FROM OUT OF STATE AND FROM AROUND THE REGION, AND YOU HAVE FACULTY THAT TRAVEL AND SO AND VISITORS THAT COME FROM ALL OVER.

SO FRESH DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE A BIG PART OF THIS.

AND DON'T THINK NOT IN THE FUTURE.

DON'T FORGET, THERE COULD BE EVEN COMPANIES THAT SPIN OFF FROM SOME OF THE RESEARCH LIKE YOU'VE SEEN IN OTHER PARTS OF THE STATE.

SO YOU'RE POSITIONING YOURSELF WELL, NOT JUST FOR EDUCATION, BUT FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AND FOR RESEARCH DEVELOPMENT AND FOR CLINICAL TRIALS AND FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT GO IN THIS ECOSYSTEM.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW YOU HAVE MORE ON YOUR ORDER OF SERVICE HERE.

RAY, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MORE TO ADD? NO. I'M GOOD. I'M JUST SETTING THAT DOWN.

OKAY, SO WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON THIS.

AND THEN YOU'LL BE COMING FORWARD, WHAT, IN THE NEXT MONTH, MAYBE.

TWO COUPLE MONTHS.

WE'LL BE GETTING YOU THE FINAL PROPOSAL THAT THE FINAL PLAN THAT THEY DID.

AND THEN FROM THERE, THAT'LL BE TURNED OVER TO THE HEALTH SCIENCES GROUP, AND THEN THEY'LL BE MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PLAN, AND THEN WE'LL GIVE YOU UPDATES AS THAT PLAN GOES THROUGH. PERFECT, PERFECT.

THANK YOU. RAY. THANK YOU, MR. UMBACH. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT REGULAR ITEM.

[K.2. SP24-0003 - Argyle ISD Stadium & Indoor Athletic Center - Consider a request for a Site Plan (SP24-0003 – Argyle ISD Stadium & Indoor Athletic Center) to expand an existing secondary school, with a request for a deviation to computing parking and loading requirements pursuant to Section 82-73 and a meritorious design exception pursuant to Section 98-1163, Exterior wall construction for nonresidential buildings, of the Code of Ordinances. The property is generally located south of Canyon Falls Drive between Denton Creek Boulevard and Stonecrest Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 0 at its June 24, 2024, meeting.)]

ITEM TWO SP 24-0000003 ON THE ARGYLE ISD STADIUM AND INDOOR ATHLETICS CENTER. LEXIN MURPHY IS GOING TO GIVE THAT PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU MAYOR. COUNCIL.

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AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A SITE PLAN PROPOSAL FOR THE ARGYLE ISD STADIUM CONCESSION STANDS AND INDOOR ATHLETIC CENTER.

HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE IT IS SURROUNDED BY CANYON FALLS DRIVE AND THEN STONECREST ON THE EAST AND DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD ON THE WEST.

THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS INSTITUTIONAL AND THE ZONING IS PD 98 WITH SINGLE FAMILY TEN DISTRICT USES.

HERE IS THE SITE PLAN FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED WITH THE HIGH SCHOOL.

SO THERE'S NOTHING ABOUT THIS AS IT'S CHANGING.

BUT SINCE IT'S SUCH A LARGE SITE, IT'S KIND OF A SPLIT IN HALF.

SO THIS IS THE PIECE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.

AND THEN THIS BOTTOM PIECE IS WHAT THE COUNCIL IS CONSIDERING TONIGHT.

SO WITHIN THOSE BLUE BOXES OR THE SPECIFIC AREAS ON THE SITE THAT ARE BEING LOOKED AT HERE IN THIS SMALLER BOX IS WHERE THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER WOULD BE LOCATED, INDOOR ATHLETIC CENTER.

AND THEN HERE IS WHERE THE STADIUM IS PROPOSED, AS WELL AS THE CONCESSION STANDS.

AND ON THE STADIUM THERE'S ALSO A PRESS BOX.

SO THE REASON THAT THIS BECAUSE IT'S A SITE PLAN IS BEFORE COUNCIL, BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL REQUESTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

ONE IS FOR THEIR DESIGNATED PARKING STANDARD.

SO A STADIUM IS NOT DOES NOT ACTUALLY HAVE A DESIGNATED PARKING STANDARD WITHIN THE TOWN'S LAND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS.

AND SO IN THAT CASE, WE ALWAYS ASK FOR THE APPLICANT TO DO A PARKING STUDY AND COME UP WITH WHAT THEY FEEL IS AN APPROPRIATE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES OR PARKING RATIO TO USE FOR THEIR USE.

AND THEY DOCUMENT THAT WITHIN THE PARKING STUDY.

AND SO IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THE APPLICANT HAS COME UP WITH A PARKING RATIO OF ONE STALL PER FOUR SEATS.

AND THIS SEEMED APPROPRIATE.

THEY ALSO LOOKED AT SURROUNDING STADIUMS. THE TWO IN FLOWER MOUND I BELIEVE ACTUALLY USED A ONE PER FIVE RATIO, SO THIS WOULD HAVE MORE PARKING THAN WE SEE AT THE OTHER TWO LISD STADIUMS. SO WHAT WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SEATS IN THE STADIUM? USING THAT ONE PER FOUR RATIO IS 18875.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING A LITTLE ABOVE THAT, BUT STILL WITHIN THAT 20% RANGE OF THEY'RE PROVIDING 2021 PARKING SPACES.

AND SO THERE ARE 1230 THAT ARE EXISTING ON THE SITE.

AND THEY WOULD BE ADDING 791.

AND SO THERE WERE A COUPLE OF EMAILS THAT WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WITH RESIDENTS THAT JUST HAD, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PARKING AND TRAFFIC WOULD BE ADEQUATELY ADDRESSED WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, AGAIN, WITH THAT, THEY HAD CONCERNS WITH KIND OF WHAT THEY SEE CURRENTLY WITH THE PARKING.

LIKE I SAID, THERE IS GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE ADDED TO THE SITE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT OF IT.

AND BASICALLY THE STADIUM ITSELF WOULD HAVE THE LARGEST PARKING REQUIREMENT.

SO IT'S NOT THAT IT WOULD BE ADDED ON TO THE SCHOOL.

IT WOULD BE THAT WOULD BE THE MOST YOU WOULD EVER NEED IS WHEN THE STADIUM IS FULLY IN USE.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THEY ARE DOING A SPECIAL EVENT PLAN.

AND SO THAT HAS BEEN STARTED AND SUBMITTED TO TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW.

THEY'VE GIVEN FIRST ROUND COMMENTS.

SO THAT'S STILL IN PROCESS.

BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST LOOKING AT KIND OF HOW THE TRAFFIC WILL BE DIRECTED COMING IN AND OUT OF THE SITE DURING GAMES.

SO NOT NECESSARILY PART OF THE SITE PLAN REVIEW.

IT'S NOT REALLY CHANGES TO HOW THE SITE ITSELF WOULD BE DEVELOPED NECESSARILY.

IT'S MORE JUST IDENTIFYING HOW TRAFFIC WILL BE DIRECTED TO ENSURE AN ORDERLY ARRIVAL AND EXIT FROM GAMES.

LEXIN JUST REAL QUICK ON THE PARKING.

AND THIS MIGHT BE I DON'T KNOW IF THE APPLICANT'S HERE, THIS MIGHT BE A QUESTION FOR THEM, BUT WITH THE EXISTING PARKING, THE 1230 SPACES, DO THEY ENVISION A CONFLICT WHERE THE STADIUM WOULD BE IN USE AND OTHER FACILITIES AT THE SCHOOL WOULD BE USED, AND THERE'D BE A PARKING CONFLICT? I WILL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THEY WOULD KNOW BETTER HOW THEY'RE PLANNING TO USE THE SITE.

LIKE I SAID, I THINK FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE THIS WOULD WOULD BE ALL ENCOMPASSING.

SO WE WOULDN'T EXPECT IT TO BE JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE USING MORE THAN ONE KIND OF PART OF THE OVERALL SITE, THAT IT WOULD SUDDENLY CREATE A PROBLEM, BUT I THINK THE APPLICANT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER ANSWER.

SO I'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO THAT WHEN THEY COME UP WITH THEIR PRESENTATION.

OKAY, THANKS. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION.

THE RESIDENTS THAT WERE CONCERNED THAT HAD WRITTEN IN, THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THEY HAD SEEN, THAT THERE WAS NOT ENOUGH PARKING CURRENTLY OR THE OTHER.

YES, I BELIEVE THEY WERE CONCERNED.

I WAS GOING TO I THINK THEY WERE IN THIS AREA TO THE SIDE AND HAD INDICATED THAT SOMETIMES WHEN THERE ARE

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CURRENTLY EVENTS ON THE SITE THAT THERE COULD BE PARKING GOING DOWN THIS STREET OR THAT SORT OF THING, I SEE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

LEXIN WOULD WE BE ABLE TO LIMIT OUTSIDE PARKING ON THOSE STREETS DURING GAME TIMES? LIKE COULD IT BE CORDONED OFF OR COULD IT BE SIGNED THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENT ONLY PARKING, NOT FOR EVENTS.

I MEAN, PARKING ON THE STREET IS LEGAL.

YOU CAN'T LIKE, BLOCK PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS OR THINGS LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, I THINK IDEALLY THE GOAL IS JUST TO HAVE ENOUGH PARKING ON YOUR SITE SO THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY IN ANY WHAT ANYONE'S TRYING TO DO.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING A BETTER LOCATION AND CLOSER TO WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO BE BY ACTUALLY PARKING ON THE SITE.

I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I YEAH, I LIVE ACROSS FROM MARCUS.

AND BEFORE THEY ADDED MORE PARKING, WE HAD ISSUES WITH EVERYONE COMING OVER AND PARKING IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THAT IS A CONCERN.

WHAT THEY DID, THOUGH, IS THEY ADDED PARKING.

I KNOW MARCUS HAS ONE PARKING SPACE PER FIVE.

SORRY, ONE SEAT, ONE PARKING SPACE FOR PER FIVE CARS.

FIVE CARS? NO PER FIVE SEATS.

FIVE SEATS. YEAH. OKAY.

BUT SO THIS IS ACTUALLY MORE PARKING FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT.

SO FOR THIS EVENT.

SO ACTUALLY THAT SHOULD BE BETTER.

NOW WE DON'T HAVE PARKING ISSUES NOW, NOW THAT THEY'VE IMPROVED THAT OVER BY MARCUS WHICH IS A GOOD THING BECAUSE WE DID HAVE TO USE THE POLICE TO COME AND, YOU KNOW, PUT THE CONES OUT.

YEAH. SO WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT THAT FOR THE RESIDENTS AT ALL.

BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT THIS WILL PROBABLY BE ENOUGH? YES, WE BELIEVE IT WILL WE BELIEVE I MEAN, AGAIN, IF LOOKING AT THE SPECIAL EVENT PLAN AND IF IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE TOWN'S POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE SEEING THOSE PROBLEMS, THAT'S THE KIND OF THING THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDRESSED WITHIN A PLAN.

BUT I I WOULD LEAVE THAT TO THE POLICE.

WHAT YOU CAN LEGALLY DO. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THE STREET PARKING IS.

MAKE SURE WE AVOID THAT.

SO IT WAS SO CONGESTED, RIGHT.

I DON'T WANT EMERGENCY SERVICES BLOCKED BECAUSE THE CARS ARE TOO CLOSE TOGETHER AND THEY CAN'T GET THROUGH WITH EQUIPMENT.

SO ANOTHER EXCEPTION REQUEST IS TO THE FACADE MATERIALS MERITORIOUS DESIGN EXCEPTION.

SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO USE A SECONDARY MATERIAL OF METAL PANELS THAT WOULD EXCEED 20% AND SO ON THE INDOOR ACTIVITY CENTER, THERE'S GOING TO BE 68% ON THE NORTH, 48% ON THE SOUTH, 70% ON THE EAST, AND 69% ON THE WEST OF THE METAL PANEL MATERIAL.

AND THE APPLICANT WILL SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

ALSO, THEY TALKED ABOUT JUST I THINK ONE OF THEIR PRIMARY REASONS FOR WANTING TO DO IT IS THE WEIGHT OF THE MATERIAL OR LIKE THE LACK OF WEIGHT, AS THEY'RE WANTING TO USE IT HIGHER UP ON THE BUILDING AND ALSO THE LACK OF MAINTENANCE.

IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE REPAINTED OR HAVE A LOT OF FUTURE MAINTENANCE CONSIDERING HOW HIGH THEY'RE HAVING TO INSTALL IT.

BUT I'LL LET THEM SPEAK.

I'LL LET HIM SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

THE SAME MATERIAL IS ALSO EXCEEDING THAT 20% ON THE PRESS BOX.

AND AGAIN, IT'S MORE IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE BUILDING LOOKING AT 58% ON THE NORTH FACADE AND THE SOUTH FACADE, 51% ON THE EAST AND 66% ON THE WEST.

AND THEN ON THE LASTLY ON THE CONCESSION STAND BUILDINGS.

IT'S JUST ON THE SOUTH FACADE THAT IT'S 22%.

LEXIN IS THAT CONSISTENT WITH SOME OF THE OTHER STADIUMS WE HAVE IN TOWN? NOT WITH THE ONES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BUILT, ALTHOUGH THOSE WERE BUILT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.

AGAIN, THE APPLICANT INDICATED DURING HIS PRESENTATION AT P&Z THAT THIS IS A TREND THEY'RE SEEING IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW STADIUMS. BUT I WOULD LET HIM SPEAK TO THAT.

THANK YOU. AND I SAW PLANNING AND ZONING AND I GUESS THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT IT WAS A PRE FINISHED METAL.

RIGHT. AND THAT HOLDS UP FOR ABOUT 30 TO 35 YEARS I BELIEVE.

SO THERE'S NO RUST THAT THAT WOULD INCUR BE INCURRED BY OUR WEATHER.

I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT. TYPICALLY.

I WOULD LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THIS MATERIAL AND TALK TO YOU ABOUT WHY HE FEELS LIKE IT'S THE BEST PRODUCT.

I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THOSE CLAIMS. I HAVE NOT THOROUGHLY RESEARCHED THIS MATERIAL.

IT'S WHAT THEY ARE PRESENTING AS YOU KNOW WHY THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S A GOOD CHOICE.

GOTCHA. SO JUST SOME PICTURES OF THE SITE.

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THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING DIRECTLY SOUTH.

THIS IS WHERE THE NEW ACTIVITY CENTER WOULD BE BUILT.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING SOUTH AT THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL BUILDING.

AND THEN THIS IS LOOKING NORTH AGAIN AT ONE OF THE EXISTING BUILDINGS ON THE SITE.

SO AGAIN, HERE'S THAT SNAPSHOT OF THE SITE PLAN.

THESE ARE THE TWO AREAS WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT HAVING A NEW CONSTRUCTION GO IN AS WELL AS THIS THESE ADJACENT PARKING LOTS.

THERE WAS THERE PREVIOUSLY HAD BEEN NEEDED A COMPATIBILITY BUFFER ALONG THE SOUTHERN BORDER OF THIS PROPERTY.

BUT THEN AT THE TIME THAT THIS SITE PLAN APPLICATION WAS MADE, THIS PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH WAS ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL AND INDUSTRIAL USE AND SO IT WAS NOT NEEDED.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT HAS SINCE BEEN REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL, THIS APPLICATION WAS ALREADY IN PROGRESS.

SO THERE IS NO COMPATIBILITY BUFFER THAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE WE WOULD APPLY THE ZONING THAT WAS THAT EXISTED AT THE TIME THEY MADE APPLICATION.

LOOKING AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

SO AGAIN LARGE SITE.

IT'S BROKEN INTO PIECES.

THEY ARE MEETING ALL OF THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPE STANDARDS.

SO WE'LL JUST MOVE FROM WEST TO EAST.

HERE WE ARE NEXT TO DENTON CREEK BOULEVARD.

THEY'RE ADDING PARKING ADDITIONAL TREES THERE.

AGAIN, PARKING AND TREES.

THERE'S ONE OF THE NEW PROPOSED BUILDINGS.

THERE'LL BE TREES WITHIN THE PARKING LOT ADJACENT TO THAT.

AND THEN MOVING OVER TO THE EAST SIDE NEXT TO STONECREST.

SO AGAIN, HERE ARE THOSE ELEVATIONS.

WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN A LOOK AT THESE.

THE RESTROOM BUILDINGS OR NOT THE RESTROOM BUILDINGS.

I'M SORRY. THE CONCESSION STANDS.

THERE WILL BE. AND THEN JUST LOOKING AT THE OVERALL SIZE.

THIS BUILDING IS A LITTLE MORE THAN 47,000FT².

THE STADIUM ITSELF HOLDS 7500.

EACH OF THESE CONCESSION BUILDINGS, OR APPROXIMATELY A LITTLE OVER 5000FT².

AND THE PRESS BOX IS A LITTLE OVER 11,000FT².

SO THERE WAS ALSO A REQUEST, AN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS.

I DIDN'T MENTION IT EARLIER WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE BUILDING MATERIALS, BUT ALSO THAT HAD TO DO WITH THE ROOF PITCH.

SO BECAUSE AS I MENTIONED, THESE ARE SMALLER THAN 15,000FT², THAT'S WHEN THE ROOF PITCH REQUIREMENT KICKS IN.

AGAIN, THE CONCESSION STAND IS 11,000.

AND THE NOT THIS IS NOT THE CONCESSION STAND.

THE PRESS BOX IS 11,000 AND THE CONCESSION STANDS ARE A LITTLE MORE THAN 5000.

SO THOSE ARE LESS THAN 15,000.

SO THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE STRICTLY REQUIRES THAT ROOF PITCH BE 612 TO 912.

HOWEVER, THE INTENTION FOR THAT IS TO KIND OF PROVIDE A LOOK MORE SIMILAR TO RESIDENTIAL WITH THE ASSUMPTION THAT THOSE SMALLER BUILDINGS WOULD BE IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS CLEARLY A SCHOOL CAMPUS, SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IT WOULD RESEMBLE A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT.

BUT SO THAT IS PART OF THE REQUEST AS WELL THAT GOES WITH THAT MERITORIOUS DESIGN EXCEPTION.

SO AGAIN, HERE IS THAT SITE PLAN.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND THEN THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL.

ANYTHING ELSE FOR ME.

WELL GOOD EVENING. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU TONIGHT.

AND I'LL SHARE. HOPEFULLY, I'LL BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL OF YOUR QUESTIONS HERE.

WE HAVE MEMBERS FROM REPRESENTING THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE AS WELL, AND THEY CAN ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE SCHOOL SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.

MY NAME IS MARTY SIMMS. I'M THE PRINCIPAL IN CHARGE FOR VLK ARCHITECTS AND THE ARCHITECT ON THIS JOB.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COVERED THE SITE.

I'VE JUST GOT A COLORED VERSION OF WHAT YOU'VE ALREADY SEEN.

BUT KIND OF WORKING FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT.

WE'VE GOT THE HOME SIDE OF THE STANDS THAT WE WOULD BE ADDING TO THE EXISTING FIELD AND TRACK.

IT DOES INCLUDE A PRESS BOX.

THERE IS A CONCESSION AND RESTROOM BUILDING NORTH AND SOUTH OF EACH OF THOSE ON THE HOME SIDE.

AND SO TWO ON THE HOME SIDE AND ONE ON THE VISITOR'S SIDE.

NEXT TO THE EXISTING FIELD HOUSE, WE WILL DO A NEW INDOOR PRACTICE FACILITY.

AND THAT IS A TURF FIELD UNDER ROOF ESSENTIALLY NOT CONDITIONED.

IT HAS SOME UNIT HEATERS TO KEEP IT FROM FREEZING, SO THE SPRINKLER PIPES DON'T FREEZE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT IT'S VERY MUCH A PRACTICE FACILITY FOR ALL ATHLETES BOTH LADIES AND GUYS SPORTS.

AND SO THERE WILL BE A LOT OF KIDDOS GOING IN AND OUT OF THAT SPACE, USING IT AND MOVING TO THE EAST.

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WE'VE GOT THE THE HOME SIDE THERE AND THE PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH WITH EACH OF THOSE.

I THINK I'VE GOT A BIT OF A ZOOMED IN AREA HERE.

NEXT, THE SOFTBALL AND BASEBALL ARE EXISTING.

WE WILL BE HAVING TO MOVE THE TRACK AND FIELD JUST TO BY VIRTUE OF THEY'RE UNDER WHERE THE PARKING NEEDS TO BE CURRENTLY.

SO WE HAVE TO HAVE TO SCOOT THOSE OVER TO PROVIDE THE PARKING THAT WE NEED TO ACCOMMODATE THIS NEW CONSTRUCTION.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT SO FAR? I DO. DID YOU SAY THE HOME SIDE IS ON THE EAST? THE HOME SIDE IS ON THE WEST.

THE WEST. OKAY. THANK YOU.

I MIGHT HAVE MISSPOKE, I APOLOGIZE.

WELL, I WAS LISTENING, SO I WAS THINKING, OH, NO, USUALLY WHEN IT'S WEST FACING, YOU KNOW.

OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. YES.

ALL RIGHT. AND I WANT THE ORIENTATION NORTH IS UP ON THIS.

AND SO WEST WOULD BE THE LARGER OF THE TWO OKAY.

GOT IT. THANK YOU.

THIS IS A FLOOR PLANS OF THE PRESS BOX AND SO ON THE LEFT YOU SEE WHAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE GROUND FLOOR.

THERE'S ONE ELEVATOR THAT GOES UP THERE A FIRE RISER AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE ON THE GROUND FLOOR.

THERE'S A MEZZANINE LEVEL THAT HAS SOME STORAGE AND MECHANICAL TYPE SPACES.

THEN THERE'S TWO LEVELS OF ACTUAL PRESS BOX PROPER, INCLUDING A VIDEO DECK FOR FILMING COACH HOME AND RADIO OR COACHES SPACES HOME AND VISITOR COACHES AND RADIO PA, ETC..

AND ALL OF THE TYPICAL THINGS YOU WOULD FIND IN A PRESS BOX, PROBABLY SIMILAR TO WHAT YOU HAVE AT THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT EXIST IN FLOWER MOUND.

THIS IS AND DON'T GET CONFUSED BY THE SCALE OF THESE BEING SIMILAR IN SIZE.

THEY'RE NOT NOT TO SCALE, OBVIOUSLY, WITH THE FOOTBALL FIELD ON THE LEFT COMPARED TO THE RESTROOMS, BUT WE HAVE A NUMBER OF RESTROOMS THAT MEET THE CODE REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO FOR THE CAPACITY OF THIS FACILITY WITH CONCESSIONS AND STORAGE.

THE CONCESSIONS, RESTROOMS, STORAGE BUILDINGS ARE ALL ESSENTIALLY IDENTICAL.

ONE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, WITH A LITTLE BIT OF OF SPECIFIC USE FOR BAND TO USE TO HAVE THEIR OWN KIND OF LITTLE RESTROOM AREA, BUT OTHER THAN THAT, THEY'RE ALMOST IDENTICAL.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE ELEVATIONS ARE ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.

ON THE LEFT YOU'LL SEE THE INDOOR ATHLETIC FACILITY.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S A 65 YARD FIELD TURF FIELD UNDER ROOF WITH A LITTLE SOME AUXILIARY SPACES ADJACENT TO THAT.

THIS IS THE RESTROOM.

CONCESSION BUILDINGS.

WE'VE THERE'S A LOVELY PALETTE OF MATERIALS TO WORK WITH OUT THERE.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF KIND OF OPTIONS TO CHOOSE FROM.

AND WE'VE WORKED VERY HARD TO STAY WITHIN THE PALETTE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THE PREVIOUS WORK THAT WAS DONE.

AND SO YOU'RE, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT THE, BRICK OR THE BROWN COLOR HERE IS A BRICK AND WE'VE GOT A PHYSICAL COLOR BOARD THAT WE BROUGHT LAST TIME.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S HERE, BUT I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF IT.

IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE BROWN BRICK THAT'S ON SITE ALREADY.

WE'VE GOT STONE THAT'S ON SITE ALREADY, AND WE'RE USING METAL PANEL THAT MATCHES THE COLORS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED ON SITE.

SO WE'RE NOT DEVIATING REALLY FROM THAT IN ANY MEANINGFUL WAY.

WE'RE REALLY WORKING WITHIN THAT PALETTE SO THAT IT FITS IN AND GOES NICELY WITH WHAT'S ALREADY THERE.

WE DID MENTION THE SLOPE ON THESE ROOFS AND WE COULD HAVE DONE A STEEPER SLOPE HERE.

WE DID THE SHALLOWER SLOPE. SO IT'S NOT QUITE SO TALL.

IT HAS MORE OF A HUMAN SCALE.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE WALKING UP TO THIS AND ORDERING FOOD AT THE CONCESSION STAND AND GOING IN.

IT WANTS TO FEEL LIKE A LIKE A HUMAN SCALE BUILDING.

SO WE'VE SHALLOWED IT A LITTLE BIT JUST SO IT'S NOT QUITE SO TALL.

AND THAT'S THE, UNIQUE ELEVATION FOR THE ONE.

THIS IS THE INDOOR ATHLETIC.

AND SO AGAIN WE'VE GOT METAL PANELS UP HIGH.

WE'VE GOT MASONRY DOWN LOW.

THE BUILDING IS FAIRLY TALL.

IT HAS TO ACCOMMODATE KICKING OF A FOOTBALL IN THE INTERIOR AND NOT BOUNCING IT OFF OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURAL SUPPORTS AND THE LIGHTS AND THINGS THAT WE HAVE IN THERE.

AND COACH WAS PRETTY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT HOW HIGH THAT NEEDED TO BE TO BE FUNCTIONAL.

RIGHT. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT AS KIND OF THE DRIVER OF HEIGHT.

BUT WHEN WE DO A TALL SPACE LIKE THAT, ESPECIALLY WITH A PRE-ENGINEERED METAL BUILDING BEING THE BULK OF THE STRUCTURE HERE, WE WANT TO AVOID STIFFENING THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE AND HANGING HEAVY STONE UP IN THE AIR.

AND SO WE KEEP THE STONE DOWN LOW, LIKE A WATER TABLE YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AND THEN WE DO METAL PANEL UP HIGH.

AND WHAT WE LIKE ABOUT THE METAL PANEL IS IT'S A 35 YEAR WARRANTY.

IT'S A 50 YEAR PRODUCT.

PLUS IT IS A PRE-FINISHED COMES FROM THE FACTORY WITH A FINISH ON IT.

IT NEVER HAS TO BE REPAINTED UNLESS IT'S SCRATCHED FOR SOME, YOU KNOW, VANDALISM OR SOMETHING.

YOU KNOW, IT'S UNLIKELY.

AND IT'S A PRODUCT THAT WE'RE SEEING ON.

IT'S PROBABLY 90% OF THE STADIUMS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.

AND IT DOESN'T REQUIRE A YEARLY RECOATING LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE A PLASTER OR A BOARD OF SOME SORT THAT YOU MIGHT USE ELSEWHERE.

DID YOU MENTION HAIL? SO, YEAH, CERTAINLY.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE SOFTBALL SIZED HAIL, THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT THAT'S GOING TO SURVIVE THAT.

BUT IT'S FAIRLY RESILIENT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU IF YOU HIT IT WITH A HAMMER, IT WILL DENT, BUT SO WILL PLASTER, AND STONE WILL CHIP AT SOME POINT, TOO.

AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S FAIRLY RESILIENT, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO HOLD UP TO A, TO A GIANT HAILSTONE.

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I MEAN, THERE'S JUST NOT. IF IT DID HAVE TO BE REPAINTED TO REPAIR SCRATCHES OR DENTS FROM.

SO YOU CAN ACTUALLY PULL PANELS OFF ARE TYPICALLY SEAMED.

AND SO YOU CAN PULL IT OFF, REPLACE A PANEL AND THEN PUT IT BACK.

GOOD TO KNOW. THANKS.

IS THAT THE SAME CONSTRUCTION FOR THE SIDES AND FOR THE ROOF AS WELL.

SO THE ROOF WOULD BE A STANDING SEAM, BUT IT'S ALSO ESSENTIALLY A METAL PANEL AS WELL.

AND SO IT'S A, SIMILAR PRODUCT, SIMILAR FINISH A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT INSTALLATION.

AND DID I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WILL NOT BE AIR CONDITIONED AND THERE WON'T BE AIR CONDITIONING UNITS ON TOP? IS THAT CORRECT? THERE WILL BE FOR THE AUXILIARY SPACES, BUT NOT FOR THE MAIN SPACES.

AND WE'VE WORKED TO SCREEN THOSE WITH THE PARAPET AREAS ON THAT, ON THAT LOWER PORTION SO YOU CAN'T SEE THEM FROM THE GROUND.

OKAY. THANKS. OKAY.

ON THE PRESS BOX AND YOU KNOW, THE HEIGHT OF THE PRESS BOX IS DRIVEN BY THE NUMBER OF ROWS THAT WE HAVE.

RIGHT. AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE GOOD SIGHTLINES FOR EVERYBODY WHO ATTENDS THE GAME AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY CAN ALL SEE AND WE WANT TO AND WE WANT TO SET IT BACK ENOUGH THAT WE HAVE WE ALWAYS TRY TO LEAVE ROOM FOR FUTURE EXPANSION, IF SHOULD IT EVER BE REQUIRED ON THE SIDES.

SO YOU DON'T WANT TO BUILD NEXT TO THE PRESS BOX, BECAUSE THEN YOU'RE TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH THE PRESS BOX TO SEE ONE END ZONE.

RIGHT? SO THAT KIND OF SETS, THAT PRESS BOX THAT WON'T MOVE.

RIGHT. IT'S NOT A MOVABLE THING.

SO THAT HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE SET BY HOW MANY, HOW MANY ROWS WE HAVE TO GET THERE.

AND SO YOU'LL SEE, SO THAT SETS KIND OF THE HEIGHT.

SO WE'RE ABOVE THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS.

SO THAT IS THAT'S THAT IS THAT METAL PANELS.

BUT FOR THE SAME REASONS WE'VE DISCUSSED, THERE'S A VARIETY OF PANELS, AGAIN, IN THE SAME KIND OF COLOR SCHEMES THAT WE HAVE ESTABLISHED.

AND I'VE GOT SOME BETTER PICTURES OF THAT I CAN SHOW YOU SHORTLY.

ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? SO THIS IS YOU'VE SEEN I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT, BUT WE'VE GOT STONE THAT MATCHES THE COLUMNS ON THE UPPER LEFT.

THE BRICK IS THE BUFF COLORED BRICK ALONG THE RIGHT SIDE AND THE LOWER PORTION.

AND THIS IS THE FIELDHOUSE HERE THAT HAS THE LIGHT GRAY.

AND THEN THAT DARK KIND OF BRONZE COLOR THAT WE'RE USING FOR THE METAL PANELS.

AND THIS IS THE COLOR BOARD WITH THE MATERIALS PROPOSED.

JUST EXAMPLES OF METAL PANELS I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO SEE ON VARIOUS BUILDINGS.

THESE BUILDINGS. THIS IS NOT NOT WHAT WE'RE USING, BUT JUST EXAMPLES OF WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE.

AND THESE ARE STADIUMS, OBVIOUSLY, AND THEY ALL HAVE METAL PANELS.

THIS IS VERY MUCH WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.

THE STADIUM IN THE LOWER RIGHT IS WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER A TYPICAL EXAMPLE.

ARE THERE ANY METAL PANELS ON THE EXISTING BUILDINGS THERE ON THE CAMPUS? THERE ARE IF YOU LOOK ALL ALONG THE FASCIA THERE SO THAT ALL OF THAT GRAY IS METAL PANEL THERE THE AWNINGS ARE METAL PANEL.

BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S HELD TO THOSE AREAS.

OKAY. AND THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE EXTERIOR.

LOGO AND SIGNAGE IS STILL KIND OF BEING DEVELOPED.

RIGHT. SO IS IT THE A IS IT THE EAGLE? IS IT SOMETHING ELSE THAT WILL BE TO BE DETERMINED? BUT THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE FEEL AND THE SCALE OF, OF THE FACILITY THAT WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND RENDERING OF THE INDOOR ATHLETIC WITH THE CORRUGATED PANEL AND THE LIGHT GRAY PANEL, FLUSH PANEL ON TOP WITH THE STONE PORTIONS AND THE BRICK DOWN LOW.

AND A VIEW FROM THE VISITOR SIDE LOOKING TOWARDS THE PRESS BOX.

AND A BIRD'S EYE OF THE STADIUM COMPLEX TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE WHOLE PICTURE.

I THINK THAT'S IT. IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS I DIDN'T GET TO? YES. SO LEXIN MENTIONED THAT THERE'S NO COMPATIBILITY BUFFER REQUIRED.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF THE CHICKEN AND EGG SCENARIO WHO CAN GET THERE FIRST? SINCE WE HAVE BEEN REZONED TO RESIDENTIAL TO YOUR SOUTH, I REALIZE YOU WERE.

YOU CAME FIRST.

AND SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED, BUT DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD BE AMENABLE TO DISCUSSING SOME KIND OF BUFFER AS A GOOD NEIGHBOR EFFORT? SO THE BUFFER WAS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED PRIOR TO US COMING ON BOARD AND EXISTS IN MOST EVERYWHERE ALONG THAT SITE ALREADY.

AND SO THEY'VE GOT A SERIES OF TREES NOW, SOME OF THEM MAY NOT BE IN GOOD CONDITION.

I DON'T KNOW KIND OF WHAT THE STATE OF THEM ARE, BUT AT THE POINT THAT THEY WERE PLANTED, IT WAS IT WAS FULLY IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE AGREEMENT THAT WAS MADE AT THAT TIME.

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WELL, IT RAN DOWN THE WHOLE.

COMMERCIAL WAS CONTEMPLATED AT THAT TIME.

RIGHT. SO THE WHEN THE HIGH SCHOOL OR THE SCHOOL FIRST CAME FORWARD, THE AREA BELOW WAS AG.

THAT WAS BEFORE THE PREVIOUS CROSS TIMBERS BUSINESS PARK APPLICATION.

SO AT THAT TIME THE SCHOOL WAS HELD TO THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER REQUIREMENT AND THEN IT WAS REZONED TO COMMERCIAL.

AND THEN THE SCHOOL APPLIED FOR THIS SITE PLAN WHILE IT WAS STILL COMMERCIAL.

AND SO NOW IT'S BEEN SINCE THEN IT'S BEEN REZONED RESIDENTIAL.

BUT SO THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER ORIGINALLY WAS PUT IN WHEN THE PROPERTY WAS STILL AG.

BUT I THINK THEY HAD ALWAYS KIND OF HAD SOME CONCERNS WITH THAT AND THOUGHT THEY MIGHT NEED TO REQUEST AN EXCEPTION FOR AT LEAST PARTS OF IT WHERE THEY HAVE A FIRE LANE GOING THERE OR SOME THINGS THAT ARE KIND OF INTRUDING INTO THAT.

AND SO THEY ARE NOT, JUST BEING CLEAR, THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED TO MEET THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER ANYMORE.

I UNDERSTAND THEY'RE NOT REQUIRED.

SO THAT'S THE LAWFUL SIDE OF IT, BUT I FEEL LIKE THERE IS A GOOD NEIGHBOR COMPONENT, AS I MENTIONED.

AND SO WE DO KNOW THAT THERE WILL BE HOMES, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF RESIDENTIAL SITUATION TO THE SOUTH.

AND PRESUMABLY IF YOU DO GET EVERYTHING GOING AND CONSTRUCTION STARTS BEFORE THEY START TO SELL LOTS, THEY'LL KNOW THAT YOU'RE THERE.

BUT IF THEY DON'T FOR SOME REASON, OR IF SOMEONE SOMEHOW THE TIMING IS CHANGED, OR IF IT'S THE SAME TIME, I'M JUST INTERESTED IN HEARING WHAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO TO MITIGATE SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS AND SOME OF THOSE ILL EFFECTS.

CERTAINLY THERE'LL BE A LOT OF LIGHTING, THERE'LL BE NOISE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS ARE NOT CAUGHT UNAWARE OF WHAT'S GOING IN NEXT DOOR.

SO. SO I WOULD SAY CERTAINLY THERE IS A TRACK AND FIELD AND BLEACHER SEATS THERE CURRENTLY.

SO HOPEFULLY THEY SEE THOSE.

AND OUR GOAL IS TO BEAT THEM.

YOU KNOW, ASSUMING WE CAN GET THROUGH THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE REALLY ARE.

WE'RE READY TO GO. IT WILL BE ACCELERATED YOUR TIMING.

SO YOU'LL BE. WE'LL BE SO JUST AS SOON AS WE CAN GET THROUGH THE PROCESS.

SO WE DON'T PLAN ON REMOVING ANY OF THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE EMERGENCY EGRESS AROUND THE BUILDING.

GOOD. AND SO I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE PROVIDE.

EXCUSE ME. THAT EGRESS.

AND ALSO SO WHAT YOU SEE ON ALONG THE SOUTH THAT SOUTH PROPERTY LINE THERE IS THAT FIRE TRUCK ACCESS AND THERE'S AMBULANCE ACCESS TO THE FIELD.

AND SO OBVIOUSLY THAT'S CRITICAL FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT.

BUT BESIDES THAT EVERYTHING THAT'S THERE WILL STAY.

WE'RE ALSO PLANTING HUNDREDS OF TREES.

ESPECIALLY AROUND THE DETENTION AREAS.

AND YOU CAN SEE ALL OF THE LANDSCAPE REQUIREMENTS TO COMPLY WITH THE, LANDSCAPE ORDINANCES THAT YOU GUYS HAVE HAVE PUT IN PLACE.

AND SO IT SHOULD BE A VERITABLE FOREST OF TREES.

AGAIN, WE'RE, PINCHED JUST A LITTLE WHERE WE GET CLOSE TO THE PROPERTY LINE THERE.

BUT ON EACH SIDE THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF LANDSCAPE.

AND SO I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOMETHING THAT'S, FAIRLY GREEN AND IT SHOULD LOOK QUITE NICE.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO YOU'LL KNOW THERE'S A FOOTBALL GAME GOING ON, ON THE NIGHTS THAT THEY'RE PLAYING, I'M SURE.

BUT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THE SEVEN OR SO, SIX, SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK A YEAR THAT THEY HAVE THE SEVEN NIGHTS A YEAR THAT THEY'RE PLAYING GAMES THERE FOR VARSITY GAMES, WHICH ARE GOING TO BE FOR FOOTBALL, BUT THEY'LL PLAY SOCCER.

THEY'LL PLAY SOCCER AND OTHER THINGS AS WELL.

YEAH. AND BOYS AND GIRLS SPORTS.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH. SO IT'LL BE MORE THAN JUST 6 OR 7 TIMES, I IMAGINE.

BUT SO I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU SOMETHING LEXIN TOO ON THE NOISE, I THINK.

SO TYPICALLY A GAME WOULD BE OVER BY LIKE MAYBE TEN ISH, BUT IF THERE'S OVERTIME AND OVERTIME AND, YOU KNOW, SO DO WE MAKE ANY, YOU KNOW EXCEPTIONS FOR THAT.

DO YOU KNOW? OKAY.

YES. SCHOOLS ARE EXEMPTED UNDER OUR NUISANCE ORDINANCE FOR NOISE.

OKAY. AND IS IT THE SAME FOR THE LIGHTING, OR WOULD THEY STILL HAVE TO? YES, THEY ARE EXEMPT FROM THE LIGHTING.

OKAY. I WAS NOT CERTAIN ABOUT THE NOISE, AND IT SEEMED LIKE TOMMY'S MIC WASN'T WORKING THAT WELL.

SO I'LL SAY THAT JUST FOR THE RECORD, THAT YES, PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE EXEMPT FROM MEETING THE NOISE REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR GAMES AND AND SUCH AT THE FACILITIES AND ALSO FOR THE LIGHTING.

THANK YOU. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE LIGHTING JUST FOR A MINUTE.

YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY GOING TO BE LIGHT PRETTY, HIGH UP FOR THE STADIUM.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE FOCUSED DOWN OR ARE WE GOING TO WORRY ABOUT IT IMPACTING THE NEIGHBORS TO YOUR SOUTH.

THE LIGHTING IS POINTED AT THE FIELD.

THE GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THE PROPER FOOT CANDLES OF THE FIELD, BOTH FOR THE ATHLETES TO SEE, BUT ALSO SO THAT THE FILM WHEN THE GAME IS FILMED, IT'S SHOWED IT ACTUALLY LOOKS BRIGHT, YOU KNOW. SO IF YOU'VE EVER SEEN A NEWS CLIP OF A, SAY, A SMALL RURAL SCHOOL AND IT LOOKS QUITE DARK, IT'S BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE FOOT CANDLES THAT THEY NEED ON THE

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FIELD TO PROVIDE THAT, THAT'S REALLY WHAT KIND OF DRIVES IT IN MANY WAYS.

AND SO FOR, THAT PURPOSE, THAT'S WHERE IT'S DONE.

IT DOESN'T DO A WHOLE LOT OF GOOD TO, TO I MEAN, WE WANT TO HAVE HAVE SAFETY LIGHTING FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO GET IN AND OUT AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS.

BUT, THE BULK OF THE LIGHTING, THE BRIGHT LIGHTS ARE POINTED AT THE FIELD AND THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO.

WE DO OUR BEST TO AND WITH PHOTOMETRICS IN THE WAY THAT THE FIXTURES ARE DESIGNED TODAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER BLEEDING.

WE DON'T WANT THAT TO BLEED OFF OF THOSE AREAS WHERE WE WANT.

IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD TO TO PAY TO LIGHT SOMETHING.

YOU DON'T NEED LIT. SO WE WANT TO BE EFFICIENT WITH THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU. AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THE YOU KNOW PEOPLE GETTING IN AND OUT.

WE MENTIONED PARKING MENTIONED TRAFFIC A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.

DO YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT THAT JUST FOR A MINUTE? YEAH, SURE. SO SO WE'VE BEEN IN THE PROCESS OF DOING A TRAFFIC STUDY WITH AN ENGINEER WORKING IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN.

AND WE'RE NEARING COMPLETION OF THAT.

WE WILL BE IMPLEMENTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE A RESULT OF THAT.

AND THOSE WILL HAVE TO BE IN PLACE, WILL BE MANDATED TO BE IN PLACE PRIOR TO THE FIRST BIG EVENT.

AND SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE VERY CLOSE.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYTHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A, YOU KNOW, A PROBLEM NECESSARILY.

YOU KNOW, THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO KIND OF WORK THROUGH.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S ALL OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED, THE POLICE FORCES AND, THE SCHOOL DISTRICT ADMINISTRATORS WE ALL WORK TOGETHER WITH, WITH YOU GUYS FROM THE TOWN STANDPOINT TO COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE GREAT FOR EVERYBODY, AND WE'LL MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AS WE NEED TO ALONG THE WAY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE DESIGNED A TRAFFIC FLOW WHERE WE TRY AND KEEP HOME AND VISITORS SEPARATE.

YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS NOT THAT THESE GROUPS ARE NOT CROSSING BOTH ON FOOT OR IN VEHICLES.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THEM ENTERING AND EXITING SEPARATELY, AND THAT KEEPS THINGS SAFE AND KIND OF MOVING.

SO IT'S BEST PRACTICE WHEN IT COMES TO DOING A FACILITY LIKE THIS.

SO THAT'S WHAT WE'VE ENDEAVORED TO DO WITH THE WAY WE'VE LAID IT OUT.

THANKS. IS THAT ALL THE QUESTIONS WE HAVE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

THAT WAS GREAT. ALL RIGHT.

DO YOU ALL NEED TO DISCUSS IT ANYMORE? OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE A MOTION? DOES ANYBODY WANT TO TALK ABOUT ANY OF IT? I WANT TO HEAR WHAT BRIAN THINKS.

THIS IS YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BRIAN.

SO YOU LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET IT RIGHT FOR YOU.

YEAH. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS, ADAM. AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A GOOD FACILITY JUST TO THE A COUPLE OF THINGS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S A MATERIAL EXCEPTION.

MY INITIAL CONCERN WAS, IS THIS JUST SOMETHING TO FOR COST SAVINGS? AND IT'S NOT GOING TO LOOK GOOD.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE.

I THINK THIS IS THE NEW TREND.

SEEING THE RENDERINGS, I THINK IT LOOKS GOOD.

IT WHILE THERE'S MORE OF THE METAL ON THE STADIUM THAN THERE IS ON THE EXISTING BUILDINGS, IT DOES TIE IN TO THE EXISTING BUILDING.

SO I THINK IT'S COMPATIBLE.

THE ROOF PITCH, YOU KNOW, AS WE MENTIONED, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A CONCERN AT ALL.

YOU KNOW, THE ONE THING THE PRACTICE FACILITY AND WE DIDN'T REALLY TALK ABOUT THIS TOO MUCH, BUT NOT BEING AIR CONDITIONED.

IF THERE IS A FUTURE, WANT TO EXPAND THAT AND ADD AIR CONDITIONING? YOU KNOW, I WOULD WONDER IF THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIG REMODEL, BUT THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW.

SO I DIDN'T REALLY FOLLOW UP WITH THAT QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GOOD THE LIGHTING WAS A CONCERN.

AND I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE A CONCERN.

YOU KNOW, I DO THINK THAT THEY WILL THIS WILL BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

IT'LL BE OPEN BEFORE YOU KNOW THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES IN.

I DO BELIEVE THEY'RE READY TO GO.

UNFORTUNATELY, I MISSED THE GROUNDBREAKING A FEW WEEKS AGO, BUT I THINK THEY'RE SHOVEL READY AND READY TO GO AS SOON AS THEY HAVE THE APPROVALS.

SO I THINK IT'S GOOD.

AND AS FAR AS PARKING, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE AMPLE PARKING.

IT SOUNDS LIKE AS FAR AS A TRAFFIC FLOW IN AND OUT, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT WILL BE INTERACTIVE WITH THE TOWN.

AND, YOU KNOW, AISD WILL WORK WITH THAT AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BRING IN FLOWER MOUND PD AS WELL TO ASSIST WITH THAT.

AND YOU LOOK FOR ANY THINGS THAT MIGHT HAPPEN.

HOPEFULLY IT'S WELL DESIGNED.

NOT GOING TO BE AN ISSUE, BUT IF THERE CAN BE A CONTINUED COLLABORATION, I THINK THAT'LL BE PRETTY GOOD.

ANYBODY ELSE? I'LL JUST MENTION THAT I LIVE LIKE THE MAYOR RIGHT NEXT TO MARCUS, AND IT SEEMS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT MARCUS IS DOING.

THE PARKING, I MEAN, TRAFFIC AROUND THE HIGH SCHOOL IS A NIGHTMARE, BUT THAT'S MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY IN THE MORNING AND THE AFTERNOON.

THE GAMES, YOU KNOW, A FEW TIMES A YEAR, DON'T REALLY SEEM TO MOVE THE NEEDLE THAT MUCH.

AND THEY SEEM TO HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING AT MARCUS.

THIS IS EVEN BETTER PARKED.

AND IT LOOKS LIKE A GREAT STADIUM, AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE WAY IT LOOKS.

I THINK IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH IT, I'M HAPPY WITH IT.

REALLY GOOD. PLUS, IT'S A COST SAVER.

AND IT SEEMS DURABLE AS WELL.

AND I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAD.

YOU KNOW, THAT YOU THOUGHT ABOUT THESE THINGS BEFOREHAND TOO.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS POSITIVE.

ALL RIGHT. SOUNDS LIKE YOU ALL ARE READY TO MAKE A MOTION.

[01:50:01]

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K2 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THERESA CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.

AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL.

AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WERNER.

AYE. OKAY.

THAT ITEM PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

SO WE HAVE ANOTHER PRESENTATION BY LEXIN ON SUP 24-0004 ON LIGHTBRIDGE ACADEMY.

[K.3. SUP24-0004 - Lightbridge Academy - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance granting a Specific Use Permit No. 493 (SUP24-0004 – Lightbridge Academy) for a day care center use, with a waiver to the roof pitch requirement pursuant to Section 98-1163, Exterior wall construction for nonresidential buildings, of the Code of Ordinances. The property is generally located south of Sagebrush Drive and west of Long Prairie Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its June 24, 2024, meeting.)]

THANKS, LEXIN. THANK YOU MAYOR.

HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE SUP REQUEST.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S WEST OF LONG PRAIRIE AND SOUTH OF SAGEBRUSH.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

IF THIS AREA LOOKS FAMILIAR, IT'S PART OF THE OVERALL EMBREE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU MAY RECALL THAT'S COME FORWARD A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES.

AND SO THIS IS A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT REQUEST FOR A DAYCARE FACILITY THERE IN THAT BACK CORNER.

SO THE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY IS OFFICE AND THE ZONING IS PD NUMBER 186 WITH OFFICE AND RETAIL DISTRICT TWO USES.

AND AGAIN THE SUBJECT AREA IS WITHIN THAT OFFICE ZONING WHICH DOES REQUIRE AN SUP FOR A DAYCARE USE.

SO HERE'S THE GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN.

HERE'S WHERE THE BUILDING WOULD BE.

IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN 15,000FT².