Jun 03, 2024 Town Council Archive

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

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THE TIME IS NOW 6 P.M., AND WE WILL START OUR REGULAR TOWN COUNCIL MEETING ON JUNE 3RD.

WE WILL NOW START WITH THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE STAND AND WELCOME CHAPLAIN JERRY COLE FOR OUR INVOCATION.

AND THEN WE'LL STAY STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE TEXAS AND US FLAG.

WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME? FATHER, WE PAUSE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS MEETING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AS THE SOURCE OF WISDOM.

AND SO WE ASK FOR YOUR WISDOM TO RESIDE IN THIS PLACE IN THIS HOUR.

WE THANK YOU FOR THESE WHO HAVE STEPPED ASIDE FROM THEIR NORMAL ACTIVITIES AND COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO BE A PART OF GUIDING AND GIVING GUIDANCE TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

WE PRAY THAT YOUR BLESSINGS WOULD REST UPON THEM.

WE RECOGNIZE THAT ALL OF THEM HAVE OTHER RESPONSIBILITIES AND OTHER ROLES THAT THEY CARRY.

SO, WE ASK THAT EVEN APART FROM THIS PLACE, YOU BE VERY REAL AND PRESENT IN THEIR LIVES.

WE PRAY FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE GIFT THAT THEY GIVE TO US, OF GIVING US THE ABILITY TO REST AND HAVE COMFORT IN THEIR READINESS TO RESPOND IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY.

AND WE KNOW, TOO, THAT THE STRESS THAT THEY EXPERIENCE IN THEIR JOBS IS COMPOUNDED BY THE STRESS THAT THEIR SCHEDULES BRING INTO THEIR HOMES.

SO, WE PRAY FOR THEM AND THEIR FAMILIES AS THEY DAY BY DAY, STAND AT READY TO INTERVENE ON OUR BEHALF.

NOW, COMMIT THIS TIME BEFORE YOU AND INVOKE YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS PLACE AND OFFER THIS OUR PRAYER BEFORE YOU, IN THE NAME OF THE ONE WHO CREATED ALL THINGS.

AMEN.

ALLEGIANCE],

[D. PUBLIC COMMENT]

YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES TO MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT.

I'M NOT GOING IN ANY PARTICULAR ORDER ON THIS.

WE'LL START WITH ANUSHKA SHARMA.

WELCOME. AND PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING AND NAMASTE.

HONORABLE MAYOR MISS MOORE, RESPECTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTINGUISHED CITIZENS OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

MY NAME IS ANUSHKA SHARMA, AND I LIVE ON FOUR, FIVE, TWO, ONE DELANA DRIVE AND I AM CURRENTLY A RISING SENIOR AT FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL.

AND I'M HONORED TO BE SPEAKING IN FRONT OF YOU ALL TODAY.

I'M A PART OF HINDU SWAYAMSEVAK SANGH OR RSS FOR SHORT.

RSS IS A NONPROFIT VOLUNTEERING ORGANIZATION THAT UPHOLDS HINDU VALUES SUCH AS.

THE ENTIRE WORLD IS ONE FAMILY AND SERVICE TO HUMANITY IS SERVICE TO GOD ITSELF.

RSS CLAIM AIMS TO COORDINATE THE HINDU AMERICAN COMMUNITY TO PRACTICE, PRESERVE AND ADVANCE IDEALS AND VALUES OF HINDU DHARMA.

WHETHER IT'S FOOD DONATION, BOOK DONATION, TEACHING, YOGA AND BREATHING EXERCISES OR VOLUNTEERING, WE TRY OUR BEST TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE.

RSS CONDUCTS REGULAR VALUES-BASED EDUCATION PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN, YOUTH AND ADULTS THROUGH MORE THAN 220 BRANCHES NATIONWIDE.

THROUGH OUR REGULAR EDUCATION EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS BASED ON DHARMA, WE INSTILL AND PROMOTE SELF-DISCIPLINE, SELF-CONFIDENCE, AND TEAMWORK.

IN HINDU HERITAGE, TEAMWORK AND THE SPIRIT OF SELFLESS SERVICE.

RSS USA ENDEAVORS TO INSTILL PRIDE IN HINDU HERITAGE AMONG ITS MEMBERS AND TO ENHANCE APPRECIATION OF HINDUS AROUND THE WORLD, THEIR TRADITIONS AND CIVILIZATION BY THE BROADER COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M GOING TO TRY TO PRONOUNCE THIS ANA SHUKLA.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? THAT'S REALLY ACCURATE.

THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING AND NAMASTE.

HONORABLE MAYOR MISS MOORE, RESPECTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTINGUISHED CITIZENS OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

I AM ANA SHUKLA AND I LIVE ON 3601 TIMOTHY DRIVE.

AND I'M A RISING SENIOR AT FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL.

MY FAMILY AND I BELIEVE THAT FLOWER MOUND IS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BEST TOWNS IN TEXAS.

I HAVE FELT SAFE AND WELCOME SINCE I HAVE COME HERE, AND I FEEL THAT IT HAS A VERY DIVERSE POPULATION, YET PEOPLE ARE CONNECTED TO EACH OTHER VERY WELL.

I'VE COME HERE AND WOULD LIKE TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT AN EVENT HSS HOSTS EVERY YEAR, KNOWN AROUND TEACHER APPRECIATION WEEK IN THE MONTH OF MAY.

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GURU MEANS A ONE WHO REMOVES DARKNESS IN THE IGNORANCE OF ONE'S LIFE AND BRIGHTENS THE FUTURE.

HSS HAS BEEN HOSTING THIS EVENT FOR MORE THAN A DECADE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

EVERY YEAR, STUDENTS FROM DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IN ISDS INVITE THEIR RESPECTED TEACHERS, WELCOME THEM, AND HONOR THEM IN A TRADITIONAL HINDU FORMAT.

THIS IS DONE THROUGH CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS AND PERFORMANCES AS WELL AS A VERY IMPORTANT FACILITATION CEREMONY.

THIS YEAR, KIDS WHO ATTENDED DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IN THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA WERE ASKED TO INVITE THEIR TEACHERS AND BOARD MEMBERS, INCLUDING OUR VERY OWN ISD.

IT WAS SO GOOD TO SEE TEACHERS AND BOARD MEMBERS ALONG WITH THEIR FAMILIES AT THE PROGRAM.

I TOO HAD A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY TO INVITE MY TEACHERS FROM FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL TO THIS EVENT AND ENJOY THE TIME WITH THEM BY SHARING MY CULTURE AND INTRODUCING THEM TO DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE HINDU WAY.

NOT ONLY DID THEY HAVE A GOOD TIME AT THE EVENT, BUT THE NEXT DAY AT SCHOOL WERE EXCITED TO TELL ME HOW MUCH THEY ENJOYED IT.

THE EVENT WAS AROUND THREE HOURS LONG AND WAS PUT TOGETHER BY HSS VOLUNTEERS AND THEIR FAMILIES.

THE FIRST BIT WAS SPENT WELCOMING ALL THE TEACHERS AND HAVING THEM INTERACT WITH THE STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES BEFORE THE OFFICIAL EVENT BEGAN.

AS THE PROGRAM BEGAN, THE HSS MEMBERS EXPLAINED THE IMPORTANCE OF WHAT A GURU IS AND WHY THIS EVENT IS BEING HELD TODAY.

FOLLOWING THROUGH, KIDS PERFORMED THEIR DIFFERENT CULTURAL SKITS AND DANCES TO SHOW THE DIFFERENT STYLES THAT ARE PORTRAYED THROUGHOUT INDIA.

AFTER THE PERFORMANCE COMMENCED, THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THE PROGRAM WAS FACILITATED.

STUDENTS BEGAN BY HONORING THEIR TEACHERS THROUGH A TRADITIONAL HINDU WAY, BY PAYING THEIR RESPECTS AND THANKING THEM FOR ALL THEY DO FOR THE SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY.

FINALLY, NEAR THE END, TEACHERS AND MEMBERS WERE OFFERED THE DELICIOUS FOOD AND WERE ASKED TO DANCE IF THEY PLEASED.

MANY TEACHERS HAD A FUN TIME AND ALSO HAD THE OPPORTUNITIES TO MEET TEACHERS FROM OTHER SCHOOLS.

FEW TEACHERS WERE THERE FOR THE FIRST TIME AND OTHERS HAD COME IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

STUDENTS SHOWED THEIR RESPECTS AND GRATITUDE TO THEIR TEACHERS, WHO ARE GUIDING US AS STUDENTS TO THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO BECOME RESPONSIBLE AND SUCCESSFUL CITIZENS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JONNY ARORA.

IF YOU'LL JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING AND NAMASTE.

HONORABLE MAYOR MISS MOORE AND RESPECTED CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND DISTINGUISHED CITIZENS OF FLOWER MOUND.

MY NAME IS JULIE AURORA AND I LIVE ON 2812 SPRING HOLLOW COURT.

I AM ALSO A CURRENT RISING SENIOR AT MARCUS HIGH SCHOOL, AND I HAVE BEEN A PART OF HSS FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS.

I TRULY BELIEVE THAT BEING A PART OF HSS HAS HELPED ME BETTER CONNECT AND SERVE MY COMMUNITY.

I WAS ABLE TO BOND WITH PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR EXPERIENCES, LEARNING MORE ABOUT MY CULTURE AND MYSELF.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I WAS ABLE TO USE THIS COMMUNITY TO BECOME A BETTER MEMBER OF THE LARGER COMMUNITY OF FLOWER MOUND THROUGH SERVICE.

I COMMEND H.S.

FOR MAKING ME A MORE ACTIVE VOLUNTEER IN THE COMMUNITY, DOING EVERYTHING FROM RAISING MONEY TO DISTRIBUTING MEALS.

GURU VANDANA HAS ALSO BEEN A LARGE PART OF MY H.S.

EXPERIENCE, AS I WAS ABLE TO SHARE MY CULTURE AND CONNECT BETTER WITH MY TEACHERS.

EACH YEAR AT GURU VANDANA, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO HONOR MY TEACHERS AND THEY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LEARN ABOUT MY CULTURE AND BE RESPECTED IN A WAY THEY HAVE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE.

I HOPE YOU WERE ABLE TO EXPERIENCE THIS NEXT YEAR WITH US.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU.

THANK YOU. ROBERT WATERS.

HI, MY NAME IS ROBERT WATERS, 5109 SADDLE TRAIL.

I AM THE PRESIDENT OF THE FLOWER MOUND YOUTH FOOTBALL ACADEMY.

I AM HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR CURRENT SITUATION AND WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON.

FIRST, WE ARE A 501(C)(3) NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.

OUR MISSION IS TO PROVIDE A YOUTH RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCE FOR THE YOUTH ZONED AND FLOWER MOUND.

OUR MISSION IS TO CREATE AN EXPERIENCE WHERE OUR YOUNG MEN CAN BE AROUND HIGH SCHOOL COACHES, MIDDLE SCHOOL COACHES, HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYERS, AND GIVE THEM A VISION OF WHO THEY CAN GROW UP AND WHO THEY CAN BECOME.

CURRENTLY WE JUST FINISHED SPRING FOOTBALL PRACTICES AT SHADOW RIDGE PARK.

WE ENTERTAINED OVER 250 YOUNG MEN FROM THE EIGHT FROM KINDERGARTEN ALL THE WAY THROUGH SIXTH GRADE.

THIS WAS HOSTED BY OVER 50 VOLUNTEERS WHO ARE A PART OF OUR ORGANIZATION WHO ARE EXCITED ABOUT GETTING THIS OFF THE GROUND.

ABOUT SIX MONTHS AGO, A GROUP OF MEN AND I WERE WALKING OFF LITTLE LEAGUE FIELDS WITH OUR CHILDREN, WITH OUR BOYS, AND WE DECIDED THAT IT WAS TIME FOR US TO GO PLAY TACKLE FOOTBALL. UNBEKNOWNST TO US, AND UNBEKNOWNST TO ME, BEING A 27-YEAR VETERAN HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL COACH AND CURRENT TEACHER AT FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL, THAT DOESN'T EXIST HERE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

DISCOURAGED, WE LOOKED ELSEWHERE.

WE WENT OUTSIDE TO NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES AND VETTED OTHER ORGANIZATIONS TO DECIDE WHERE WE WERE GOING TO PUT OUR BOYS.

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THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.

THAT'S WHERE WE CAME FROM SIX MONTHS AGO.

AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT RIGHT NOW.

I'M VERY EXCITED TO SAY, WITH THE PASSING OF THE LISD BOND, SPORTS PACKAGES THAT DOCTOR RAPP HAS IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO USE FACILITIES FOR OUR NEEDS.

I'M EXCITED TO SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE SHADOW RIDGE MIDDLE SCHOOL AS OUR HOME GAME FIELD.

WE'RE EXCITED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO USE HARMON AS A HOME GAME FIELD.

WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH COPPELL ISD, AND WE'RE IN CURRENT CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW TO RENT COPPELL MIDDLE SCHOOL WEST.

IN ADDITION TO THAT DR.

RAPP IS GOING TO ALLOW US TO HAVE OUR GRADE LEVEL PRACTICES AT MARCUS HIGH SCHOOL, AT THE FIELD OFF OF DIXON, NEXT TO THE HIGH SCHOOL BASEBALL FIELD.

AND WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY FROM LISD AND TO HAVE THEIR SUPPORT WITH US.

THAT DOESN'T COME WITHOUT AN EXPENSE.

IT'S GOING TO COST OUR ORGANIZATION OVER $70,000 JUST TO HAVE TO RENT THOSE FACILITIES.

CURRENTLY, THERE IS NO DEDICATED FIELDS IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND FOR FOOTBALL.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR TEAM PRACTICES AT PUBLIC PARKS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AND WORKING WITH THEM AS TO WHERE THOSE CAN TAKE PLACE.

WE'RE RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AN OPEN AND OPEN REGISTRATION.

WE'RE ABLE TO GET A PACKAGE WHERE KIDS CAN PLAY FOR UNDER $300, JERSEY INCLUDED, AND WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER PACKAGES WHERE THEY CAN PLAY FOR, FOR WITH EQUIPMENT COST OF UNDER $275.

WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT OUR FUTURE AND EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADING.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MM.HMM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ROB RONSON. RONSON.

GOOD EVENING, MADAM MAYOR.

MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL.

I'M ROB RAWSON, 1409 BASIL DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND.

AT THE TOWN COUNCIL MEETING THIS PAST MAY 20TH, OUR COUNCIL APPROVED VARIOUS ORDINANCES TO SETTLE A LONG FESTERING LAWSUIT AGAINST US.

FOLLOWING THOSE VOTES, OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM DID A PERSUASIVE JOB OF SEEMING TO REFUTE SEVERAL POINTS THAT I AND OTHERS HAD RAISED REGARDING THE LA ESTANCIA FIASCO.

HE DID THIS AS IF TO SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT BY ASKING CAREFUL QUESTIONS OF OUR TOWN'S ATTORNEY.

THE COUNCIL MEMBER SKILLFULLY USED HIS BULLY PULPIT TO PUT HIS SPIN ON EVENTS, SECURE IN THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE WOULD NOT BE GAINSAID.

HE WAS DOUBTLESS AWARE THAT HE HAD TO FACE NO QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC, AND THAT HE WAS CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO FACE ANY FROM HIS FELLOW COUNCIL MEMBERS.

HE ALSO FACED NO CONCERN ABOUT POTENTIAL CROSS EXAMINATION.

HIS QUESTIONS WERE CAREFULLY POSED, ENSURING THAT THEY COULD BE TRUTHFULLY ANSWERED, WHILE NEVERTHELESS IMPLYING FAR MORE THAN THEY ACTUALLY ADDRESSED.

NOTABLY, AT NO TIME WAS THE TRUE COST OF THIS SETTLEMENT TO OUR TOWN EVEN HINTED AT FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS LEARNED NOTHING ABOUT WHAT THIS LITIGATION COST OUR TOWN. THAT'S NOT THE SAME THING AS LEARNING THAT IT COST US NOTHING.

I PUT IT TO OUR COUNCIL.

NOW, HOW MUCH DID THAT LAWSUIT COST OUR TAXPAYERS? THE FINAL SETTLEMENT, APPROVING UNPRECEDENTED AMENDMENT TO OUR MUCH-VAUNTED MASTER PLAN AND EXCEPTIONAL DENSITY WAS PRESENTED AS IF IT WERE SOMEHOW AN UNALLOYED VICTORY TO THE TOWN BY INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE MADE POLITICAL CAREERS, OPPOSING APARTMENTS AND HIGH DENSITY.

AFTER LISTENING TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM PERFORMANCE, ONE MIGHT UNDERSTANDABLY CONCLUDE THAT THE TOWN WALKED AWAY A POSITIVE BENEFICIARY FROM THE LA ESTANCIA SUIT, AND THAT THE SIMULTANEOUS APPROVAL OF THE MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, THE HIGH-DENSITY DEVELOPMENT AND OUR TOWN'S PURCHASE OF 22.3 ACRES FROM THE PLAINTIFFS WAS UTTERLY UNCONNECTED WITH THE SETTLEMENT OF THE SUIT.

SURELY THAT LAST POINT MAY BE TECHNICALLY TRUE IN SOME RESTRICTED LEGAL SENSE, BUT IT WOULD STRAIN CREDULITY TO CONCLUDE THAT THESE EVENTS WERE ACTUALLY UNRELATED.

IF THE LA ESTANCIA SETTLEMENT REALLY IS SUCH A GOOD DEAL FOR OUR TOWN, AND IT MAY BE WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN IT MUCH MORE EASILY WITH FAR LESS FUSS, BOTHER AND EXPENSE TO ALL PARTIES INVOLVED.

WE SIMPLY NEED TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS AND BUSINESSMEN AS PARTNERS, RATHER THAN TREATING THEM AS OPPONENTS TO BE THWARTED.

AMONG THE WORST POSSIBLE OUTCOMES WILL BE IF THIS SETTLEMENT EMBOLDENS THIS COUNCIL TO ACT WITH SIMILAR DISREGARD IN THE FUTURE.

BRANT, CAN WE DO A POINT OF ORDER ON THAT? TO REFERENCE WHERE PEOPLE CAN GO.

WELL FOR THE WEBSITE.

YEAH. YES. ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.

I DON'T KNOW IF STAFF WANTS TO WEIGH IN.

I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED DIRECTLY WITH THE PLACEMENT ON THE WEBSITE.

SO, IF YOU GO TO OUR PLANNING WEBSITE, WE HAVE A MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE, AND PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE WEBSITE HAD IT AS CROSS TIMBERS BUSINESS PARK.

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AND SO, I'M DOING THIS OFF OF MY MEMORY.

SO, I'M LOOKING FOR TOMMY AND LEXIN TO SEE IF THAT IS CORRECT.

WHAT I STATED.

OKAY, I'M GETTING HEAD NODS.

SO, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE, YOU'LL SEE THAT WE HAVE A SPOT DEDICATED TO CROSS TIMBERS BUSINESS PARK SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL ITERATION, BUT IT ALSO HAS LICENSEE INFORMATION ON THAT SAME WEB PAGE.

OKAY. THIS WAY THE PUBLIC CAN KNOW THAT.

THANK YOU. PATSY MAZUR.

PATSY, MAZUR, 1821 CASTLE COURT CONGRATULATIONS, MAYOR MOORE, IN BECOMING THE MAYOR OF FLOWER MOUND.

YOU WENT FROM A HUMBLE MAYOR TO A SEASONED POLITICIAN IN JUST YOUR TWO SHORT, TWO FIRST SHORT WEEKS, WHEN YOU SAID AT THE LAST MEETING THAT YOU WANTED RESIDENTS TO APPROACH THE COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENTS WITH POSITIVITY AND PROACTIVITY.

SO, LET'S START THERE.

MAYOR MOORE, DURING YOUR CAMPAIGN, YOU MADE IT AN ISSUE THAT OUR FORMER MAYOR WAS A RENTER IN FLOWER MOUND, AND YOU WERE A HOMEOWNER IS ALIENATING THE RENTING POPULATION IN FLOWER MOUND PROACTIVE AND POSITIVE.

FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND TO OUR FORMER MAYOR IS ALSO IN HAITI RIGHT NOW SERVING A UN MISSION, SO PRAYING FOR HIM WOULD BE REALLY BENEFICIAL.

HE TRULY HAS A SERVANT'S HEART.

FURTHER, IN THE VEIN OF POSITIVITY AND PRODUCTIVITY, YOU ARE AWARE THAT YOU ARE NOW THE LEADER OF A COUNCIL THAT GOT THIS TOWN AND ITS TAXPAYERS INTO A $50 MILLION LAWSUIT, BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE GUTS TO TELL 300 RESIDENTS IN WEST FLOWER MOUND AND 200 RESIDENTS FROM ARGYLE THAT VOTING AGAINST THE WAREHOUSES WAS GOING TO BRING ON A LAWSUIT.

IN FACT, WHAT'S VERY INTERESTING, THE MARCH 28TH P&Z MEETING, A RESIDENT ACTUALLY GOT UP AND STATED THAT LAND VALUES HAD GOTTEN SO HIGH IT COULD BRING ON A LAWSUIT.

SO EVEN WHEN THOSE COMMENTS ARE MADE IN POSITIVE AND PROACTIVE WAYS, THIS COUNCIL DOES NOT LISTEN.

FINALLY, THIS IS DEFINITELY THE MOST HYPOCRITICAL COUNCIL AS WELL AS THE LEAST TRANSPARENT COUNCIL BECAUSE YOU ALL SAID YOU WOULD NEVER VOTE FOR APARTMENTS.

BUT TO SETTLE THE LAWSUIT YOU GRANTED THE LANDOWNER APARTMENTS AND ALL THE RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND HAVE TO DO IS PAY AN EXTRA $8 MILLION FOR PROPERTY THAT WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO USE FOR PUBLIC USE.

YOU GUYS ARE CRUSHING IT.

BUT THAT'S REALLY NOT POSITIVE OR PROACTIVE EITHER.

FURTHER, THAT $8 MILLION IS ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG, I BELIEVE, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THE SETTLEMENT.

JUST LIKE MR. RAWSON SAID, I KNOW YOU'RE USING TIRZ MONEY FOR A PART OF IT, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE.

WHAT ELSE ARE YOU GIVING AWAY? PARK FEES. OTHER CONSTRUCTION FEES ARE THOSE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.

WHY CAN'T YOU JUST BE TRANSPARENT AND GIVE US A FULL ACCOUNTING OF WHAT YOU HAD TO DO TO MAKE THIS AVOIDABLE LAWSUIT GO AWAY? AND MAYOR MOORE, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU ARE NOW CULPABLE BECAUSE A PORTION OF THIS WAS VOTED ON AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING THAT YOU PRESIDED OVER.

SO, IF YOU WANT POSITIVITY AND PROACTIVITY FROM RESIDENTS WHEN WE COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL, WHY DON'T YOU START WITH YOURSELF AND THIS COUNCIL.

AND WHEN YOU DO REALLY GOOD, POSITIVE THINGS FOR ALL OF US, THE ENTIRE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, I WILL BE THE FIRST PERSON TO COME UP POSITIVELY AND PROACTIVELY AND TELL YOU THAT PLEASE REMEMBER, JESUS CHRIST WAS A GREAT LEADER BECAUSE HE WAS A GREAT SERVANT TO ALL.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. NOW WE HAVE NICHOLAS UNDERWOOD.

THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY.

MY NAME IS NICHOLAS UNDERWOOD AND I LIVE AT 5800 DAYFLOWER DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.

AND I AM HERE BECAUSE I SENT AN EMAIL TO THE COUNCIL AND MAYOR ON FRIDAY BUT DIDN'T HEAR BACK, SO I FELT IT NECESSARY TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO YOU NOW.

TODAY I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A CONCERNED CITIZEN OF FLOWER MOUND AND AS A CONCERNED AMERICAN.

OUR NATION IS ONE OF THE FEW THAT HAS CONTINUALLY VOTED AGAINST AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE IN PALESTINE, AS WELL AS FAILED TO ACKNOWLEDGE PALESTINIAN SOVEREIGNTY.

THE IMAGES AND VIDEOS COMING OUT OF GAZA AND THE WEST BANK HAVE BEEN HORRIFIC.

AS OF TODAY, THERE HAVE BEEN MORE THAN 45,000 CONFIRMED PALESTINIAN DEATHS, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH ARE CIVILIANS, CONSISTING OF WOMEN, CHILDREN AND THE ELDERLY.

THAT NUMBER DOES NOT ACCOUNT FOR THOSE STILL LYING UNDER THE RUBBLE, AND EXPERTS ESTIMATE THAT THE NUMBER THAT NUMBER SURPASSES 200,000 DEATHS IN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS.

THE ISRAELI OFFENSIVE HAS KILLED 147 JOURNALISTS AND 493 AID WORKERS, AS WELL AS 196 UNITED NATIONS STAFFERS, MAKING THIS THE DEADLIEST ASSAULT ON JOURNALISTS AND AID WORKERS IN MODERN HISTORY, SURPASSING EVEN THE VIETNAM WAR, WHERE 63 JOURNALISTS WERE KILLED OVER THE SPAN OF 20 YEARS. THE ISRAELI MILITARY OFFENSIVE HAS MORE THAN DOUBLED THAT NUMBER IN JUST EIGHT MONTHS.

SIMULTANEOUSLY, THIS OFFENSIVE OPERATION HAS TARGETED EDUCATIONAL FACILITIES, HOSPITALS AND REFUGEE CAMPS, ALL OF WHICH ARE CLASSIFIED AS WAR CRIMES BY THE UNITED NATIONS.

WHILE I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT OUR CITY HAS NO TANGIBLE VOTE OR VOICE IN THIS MATTER, I BELIEVE IT IS OF THE UTMOST IMPORTANCE THAT WE, LIKE MANY OTHER CITIES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES, ALREADY HAVE, CALL FOR AN IMMEDIATE CEASE FIRE.

THE SYMBOLIC VOTE WOULD HELP TO PUT PRESSURE ON OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN WASHINGTON, DC, AND AUSTIN, WHO STILL ADAMANTLY DEFEND ISRAEL'S DISREGARD FOR FOREIGN POLICY.

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WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO ADVOCATE FOR THE HUMANITY OF THE PALESTINIANS, AND FLOWER MOUND SHOULD BE LEADING THE WAY AS AN INFLUENTIAL NORTH TEXAS CITY.

IT IS ALSO AN IMPORTANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND TO STAND ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF HISTORY IN DEFENSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS.

THANK YOU. AND FREE PALESTINE.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT CARDS? I DO NOT.

OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS.

[E. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

FIRST. I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT OUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS GO OUT TO EVERYONE IN THE DENTON AND COOK COUNTY, WHO HAD RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THE STORMS, WHO LOST SOME LOVED ONES.

I'M PROUD TO BE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

WE HAD A GREAT RESPONSE TEAM IN OUR OWN FLOWER MOUND THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.

OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, THEY DID EXCELLENT.

OUR CHIEF FIRE OFFICER CHIEF HANDEL.

HE DID OUTSTANDING COMMUNICATION WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER.

JAMES AND JAMES GOT BACK TO ME.

I WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SO I COULD HEAR WHAT WAS GOING ON.

NOT ONLY IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

IT WAS JUST EXTRAORDINARY TO SEE A TEAM WORK TOGETHER TO GET EVERYTHING RESOLVED.

AND CHIEF HANDEL WILL BE GIVING US HIS REPORT ON HOW THEY MANAGED EVERYTHING.

AND WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL PICKUP THIS WEEK FROM JUNE 3RD THROUGH JUNE 7TH FROM REPUBLIC.

OH, DID I SAY, WHAT DID I SAY, CHIEF? I'M SORRY. I SAID, CHIEF.

HANDEL. I'M SO SORRY, CHIEF HENLEY.

I APOLOGIZE.

ANYWAY, EVERYBODY DID EXCELLENT.

WE DO HAVE THE SPECIAL STORM PICKUP, SO FROM JUNE 3RD THROUGH JUNE 7TH, WE WILL HAVE REPUBLIC SERVICES COME AND PICK YOUR STORM DEBRIS UP. SO HAVE THAT OUT BY THE FRONT CURB, AND WE WILL GO AHEAD AND HAVE EVERYBODY ELSE COMMENT ON ANNOUNCEMENTS.

DO YOU WANT TO START, BRIAN? SURE. HAVING AN ANNOUNCEMENT TONIGHT, IT'S NOT REALLY SPECIFIC TO FLOWER MOUND, BUT A LITTLE OVER A WEEK AND A HALF AGO PGA GOLFER GRAYSON MURRAY PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 30 BY SUICIDE.

THAT REALLY DIDN'T AFFECT US BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW GRAYSON.

HOWEVER, THE REASON I WANT TO BRING THIS UP IS HE DID HAVE A PERSONAL IMPACT ON OUR LIVES.

HE STRUGGLED WITH DEPRESSION, WITH ANXIETY LED TO COPING THAT WITH THAT, WITH ALCOHOL ABUSE.

HE HAD AN UP AND DOWN CAREER AS A GOLFER.

HE STRUGGLED TO COME BACK.

TWO YEARS AGO, HE WAS PLAYING ON THE KORN FERRY TOUR.

TOOK MY SON. MY SON'S A BIG GOLFER.

BIG GOLF FAN.

WE'RE AT THE KORN FERRY TOUR.

ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT THAT, YOU KNOW, MINOR LEAGUE GOLF TOURNAMENT IS YOU GET A LOT BETTER ACCESS TO THE PLAYERS EITHER UP AND COMERS OR PEOPLE THAT ARE TRYING TO YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE RESURGENCE IN THEIR CAREER.

HE GOT A LOT OF SIGNED GOLF BALLS.

A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, GOLF BALLS FROM PLAYERS.

ONE OF THE PLAYERS THAT WAS THE NICEST ONE TO HIM WAS GRAYSON MURRAY.

IT WASN'T JUST INITIALS ON THE BALL.

IT WAS HIS FULL NAME.

HE TOOK A COUPLE OF MINUTES WHICH SEEMS LIKE AN ETERNITY BUT TOOK A COUPLE MINUTES TO TALK TO MY SON ABOUT GOLF AND STICKING WITH IT AND THE UPS AND DOWNS AND, YOU KNOW, SINCE THEN, WE'VE FOLLOWED HIS CAREER.

SO, UNFORTUNATELY, TRAGICALLY AFTER WITHDRAWING FROM THE COLONIAL ON FRIDAY, HE WENT BACK HOME AND PASSED AWAY ON LAST SATURDAY.

SO, I WANT TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, MENTAL HEALTH AFFECTS EVERYBODY, AFFECTS ALL OF US.

YOU KNOW, WE NEVER KNOW WHAT SOMEONE IS GOING THROUGH.

YOU KNOW, I REACHED OUT TO CHIEF PULLEN, AND, YOU KNOW, HE LET US KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS HERE IN FLOWER MOUND ARE TRAINED IN MENTAL HEALTH.

THERE ARE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR HELP.

WITHIN THE COUNTY OF DENTON.

THEY CAN POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF THERE ARE ANY ANY NEEDS.

OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S AN IMMEDIATE NEED, CALL 911, AND THEN THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, AS A WAY TO, YOU KNOW, TO HONOR THAT LIFE, YOU KNOW, HIS PARENTS YOU KNOW, WANTED PEOPLE TO BE KIND TO EACH OTHER.

SO, I'D JUST LIKE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND, YOU KNOW, LET'S BE KIND TO EACH OTHER, TREAT EACH OTHER WITH RESPECT.

THAT'S MY ANNOUNCEMENT FOR TONIGHT.

SO, I ALSO WANTED TO REITERATE MAYOR MOORE'S ANNOUNCEMENT.

SO, OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF STORMS, A LOT OF RAINWATER, A LOT OF CALLS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND THE FIRE HAS HAD A RECORD NUMBER OF CALLS, AND THEY'VE ANSWERED THEM, AND THEY'VE HELPED KEEP OUR TOWN SAFE AND THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE IN TEXAS.

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BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TOUGH WITH ALL THESE CALLS AND RAIN AND STORMS. SO, ANNOUNCEMENTS THIS WEEKEND, WE'RE GOING TO BE KICKING OFF CANYON FALLS PARK.

SO, AT 10 A.M.

ON SATURDAY, WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING THE RIBBON CUTTING CEREMONY FINALLY.

SO, LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE. I'LL DOVETAIL INTO THE COMMENTS ABOUT OUR STORM RESPONSE, AND I BELIEVE WE'RE GOING TO HEAR FROM OUR TOWN MANAGER ON THAT AS WELL.

BUT IN ADDITION TO POLICE AND FIRE, I WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL CALL OUT TO PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE HAD COUNTLESS NUMBER OF TREES AND BRANCHES AND DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.

AND PROBABLY SOME OF YOU, YOU'RE NODDING.

I SEE IN THE AUDIENCE YOU PROBABLY HAD SOME IN YOUR YARD.

I HAD SOME IN MY YARD.

BUT EVERYONE WAS TAKEN CARE OF SO BEAUTIFULLY AND WITH SUCH KIND SERVANT'S HEARTS.

BECAUSE I MET A FEW FOLKS AT THE EMPLOYEE PICNIC AND OH MY GOSH, WHAT A GREAT CREW OF PEOPLE WE HAVE.

WE ARE SO BLESSED IN THIS TOWN.

SO, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

LET THEM KNOW. AND HOPE THAT EVERYONE MAKES IT OUT TO CANYON FALLS, A LONG AWAITED OPENING AND RIBBON CUTTING.

SO, THANK YOU.

SO I WAS JUST GOING TO MENTION IN REGARD TO LA ESTANCIA, THAT IN ADDITION TO THE MAJOR PROJECTS PAGE IS ALSO A NEWS FLASH THAT WENT OUT AND THAT HAS SOME DIFFERENT CONTENT ON IT. RIGHT? YOU'RE CORRECT.

AND MELISSA POINTED IT OUT TO ME.

SO, IF YOU GO AND YOU LOOK ON OUR NEWS FLASH AND YOU SCROLL DOWN AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM PUTTING IT BACK UP ON THE FEED, IT'S NOT IN THE TOP THREE THERE.

BUT WHEN YOU CLICK THE LINK, YOU CAN GET TO IT.

AND IT HAS MORE DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE SETTLEMENT AND EVERYTHING ELSE INVOLVED IN THAT.

SO YES, THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE TO ON OUR, OUR, OUR NEWS FEED.

YEAH. SO, MOST OF THE INFORMATION THAT THE PUBLIC IS ASKING FOR WAS POSTED ON MAY 23RD.

AND IT HAS A LOT OF THOSE DETAILS.

SO THAT SHOULD ANSWER MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT ARE STILL OUTSTANDING.

THANKS. THE SENIOR CENTER WILL BE SPONSORING ANOTHER ELITE CHEF COMPETITION BENEFITING THE SENIORS IN MOTION.

AND THAT IS JUNE 20TH, WHICH IS A THURSDAY.

AND IT'S 5 TO 8 P.M.

AND YOU CAN PURCHASE TICKETS AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND ALSO CALLING AND GIVING CREDIT CARD INFORMATION.

[F. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

OKAY, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

OKAY, THERE WE GO. AND SO, I'M GOING TO ASK CHIEF HENLEY AND CLAY RIGGS TO COME TO THE FRONT.

SO LAST TUESDAY MORNING WHEN I WAS HEADING TO THE GYM AROUND 5:45, I WAS GOING DOWN FLOWER MOUND ROAD UNTIL THERE WAS A TREE BLOCKING THE ENTIRE EASTBOUND LANE.

AND IS AT THAT POINT, I PUT IN A CALL TO BOTH CLAY AND TO CHIEF HENLEY.

AND THEY WERE ALREADY THERE, YOU KNOW, AND ALSO, WE EVEN HAD ONE OF OUR POLICE OFFICERS TRYING TO CLEAR IT OUT THEMSELVES.

AND SO, OUR PUBLIC SAFETY AND OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS WERE ALREADY WORKING THAT MORNING TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ISSUES.

SO NOT ONLY HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT WE'RE ALSO GOING TO TALK ON WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE AREA, INCLUDING SUPPORTING THE FOLKS OUT IN VALLEY VIEW AFTER THE TORNADO.

SO, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO CLAY RIGGS AND CHIEF HENLEY TO WALK US THROUGH A PRESENTATION OF OUR RESPONSE TO THE STORM.

GREAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

COUNCIL, IT'S AN HONOR TO BE HERE THIS EVENING.

CLAY AND I REPRESENT AN ENTIRE TOWN OF EMPLOYEES THAT CAME AND ANSWERED THE CALL TO DO A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDED DOING AT THE TIME, IT NEEDED DOING.

THERE'S A LOT OF STUFF GOING ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF LATE-NIGHT TEAMS' CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHICH WAY THE STORMS ARE GOING.

DO I NEED TO WAKE UP THE TOWN MANAGER OR NOT? WHAT DO WE NEED TO BRIEF HIM AND THE REST OF THE TOWN ON, SO IT HAS BEEN A WILD FEW MONTHS.

THEY SAY APRIL SHOWERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BRING MAY FLOWERS, BUT IT JUST BROUGHT MORE STORMS. AND INTO JUNE, AS WE'RE WATCHING STORMS THERE IN THE BACK.

NOW THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WENT ON, AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE STILL GOING ON.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESPONSE HAPPENING, AS MANY OF YOU SO GRACIOUSLY MENTIONED EARLIER.

BUT AS WE START OUT, WE AS A TEAM KIND OF CAME TOGETHER FOR THIS STORM.

AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE HE WON'T TELL YOU OUR OWN CLAY RIGGS IN IN CHARGE OF PE WORKS.

I'VE GOT SEVERAL OF MY COLLEAGUES CALLING ME AND TELLING US WHAT A GREAT JOB HE DID, COORDINATING A LOT OF COUNTIES AND A LOT OF RESPONSE.

SO, HE MADE FLOWER MOUND PROUD BY HIS EFFORTS.

BUT FOR US, THE COMMUNICATION HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR THIS STORM AND SEVERAL STORMS BEFORE AND AFTER.

BUT THIS ONE KIND OF HIT A LITTLE BIT WITH MORE FORCE THAN WE HAD HOPED.

WE STARTED PRETTY EARLY THE DAY BEFORE WE KNEW THE STORMS WERE COMING IN TEXTING AGAIN, LIKE I SAID THROUGH THAT NIGHT TO MAKE SURE WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN.

ARE WE PREPARED?

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WE DID, WE UP STAFFED A LITTLE BIT.

EARLY IN THAT MORNING, THEY ISSUED A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM WARNING, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY COMMON THESE DAYS.

AND THEN WE NOTICED WE STARTED GETTING SOME CALLS ON MY SIDE.

LIGHTNING STRIKES STRUCTURED FIRE CALLS OVER SEVERAL DAYS.

AND MY HEART GOES OUT TO ANYONE THAT'S LOST SOME PROPERTY WITH SOME STRUCTURE, FIRE DAMAGE AND OR LIGHTNING STRIKE DAMAGE.

WE REPAIRED A LOT OF ROOFS OR TARPED A LOT OF ROOFS, I SHOULD SAY, FOR THEM.

AND THEN GOT THOSE FIRES UNDER CONTROL.

BUT THAT MORNING WAS A LARGER CALL VOLUME THAN NORMAL.

WE IMMEDIATELY OPENED THE EOC.

WE GOT CLAY AND MANNY AS WELL AS EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND FIRE IN THERE.

WE WORK IN CLOSE WITH PD AND COMMUNICATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE THINGS THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN STARTED TO HAPPEN.

AND WE STARTED AS SUNRISE HAPPENED, WE WERE ABLE TO SEE ANY DAMAGE, AND WE GOT OUT TO EACH DISTRICT AND MADE SURE WHAT WAS BLOCKING THE ROAD, WHAT WAS BLOCKING EGRESS AND INGRESS FOR OUR CITIZENS.

FIRE ALONE RESPONDED TO ABOUT 23 WEATHER RELATED CALLS, AND THEN PUBLIC WORKS HAD 55 OR MORE DOWNED TREES IN THE ROAD.

AND WE STARTED WORKING TOGETHER.

MY GUYS GOT SOME CHAINSAW WORK.

CLAY'S GUYS GOT A LOT OF HELP TO GETTING THOSE THINGS OUT OF THE ROADWAY.

AND THEY DID A WONDERFUL JOB RESPONDING.

WE KIND OF TOOK DISPATCH ON OUR OWN, AND WE KIND OF PARSED THE CALLS AND MADE SURE WE HIT WHAT NEEDED TO BE HIT FIRST.

AND GETTING THE ROADWAYS OPEN.

THIS IS WE WORK WITH THE TEXAS DIVISION OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT QUITE A BIT.

THIS IS A WHAT WE CALL AN ISTAT REPORT.

WE HAVE AN ISTAT AND A PSTAT.

EYE STAT IS FOR CITIZENS THAT CAN CLAIM DAMAGE AND P STATS FOR PUBLIC.

AND SO, THIS IS THE EYE STAT.

YOU CAN SEE THE KIND OF THE CONCENTRATION OF WHERE WE TAG DAMAGE.

NOW THIS WILL HELP LATER ON IF THERE'S A BIG DECLARATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MEET A THRESHOLD IN THE COUNTY, CITIZENS CAN USE THAT TO FOR NOT ONLY INSURANCE PURPOSES, BUT ALSO TO GET TO SEE IF WE MEET THAT THRESHOLD.

AND YOU CAN SEE REALLY THE CONCENTRATION OF STORM DAMAGE AREA.

SO EARLY IN THAT DAY AGAIN, BEFORE LOTS OF THINGS GOT REALLY CRAZY, WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT IS NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TELL US? SO, ALL NIGHT LONG.

AND I WANT TO PUT EVERYONE AT EASE.

THERE IS A GROUP OF US THAT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AS WELL AS PUBLIC WORKS, AND SOME OTHERS WERE ON THOSE TEAM CHATS LIKE I SAID, THERE'S 24 SEVEN COVERAGE TO MAKE SURE SOMEBODY IS WATCHING.

WE'RE WATCHING NOT ONLY WHAT YOU SEE AT WFAA OR ONE OF THE NEWS SITES WITH THAT RADAR, BUT WE'RE ON THE ACTUAL SITES, THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN THE CHAT, LOOKING FOR ROTATION, LOOKING FOR WIND SPEEDS, LOOKING FOR ALL THE THINGS THAT INDICATE DO WE NEED TO SET THE SIRENS OFF? I WILL TELL THIS BODY AND ALL OF US WATCHING THAT I MADE THE DECISION NOT TO SET THE SIRENS OFF.

THEY DID NOT MEET THE THRESHOLD OF SIREN ACTIVATION, WHICH IS SUSTAINED 70 MILE AN HOUR WIND.

HAIL. THAT'S AN INCH AND A HALF OR INCH AND A QUARTER OR BIGGER AS WELL AS A TORNADO OR ANY ROTATION THAT WE'RE SEEING.

IT WAS 5:30 IN THE MORNING.

I DIDN'T WANT ANY CONFUSION, AND WE DIDN'T MEET THE THRESHOLDS.

NOW, WHAT I WILL SAY, BASED ON THE DAMAGE, THERE PROBABLY WAS A MICROBURST THAT HIT.

AND A MICROBURST IS A WEATHER WHERE IT HITS AND THEN GOES OUT IN ALL DIRECTIONS.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THAT IN THE AREAS THAT WE FLAGGED.

BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT OUT THERE WITH THINGS, YOU KNOW, MONITORING EVERY, EVERY PLACE IN FLOWER MOUND WE ARE WE HAVE OUR WEATHER STATIONS THAT GIVE US A GOOD AVERAGE.

ALL THE CHAT WAS NORTH OF US, WEST OF US.

WE MISSED THE BULK OF SOME OF THE HEAVY, HEAVY STUFF.

SO AGAIN, I CHOSE NOT TO SET THE SIRENS OFF BECAUSE IT DIDN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD AND THEN COMMUNICATION THAT A BIG PART OF THIS IS MAKING SURE WE WERE COMMUNICATING WITH MELISSA, WHO'S IN CHARGE OF OUR COMMUNICATIONS DIVISION, AND SHE WAS GETTING THE WORD OUT ON A LOT OF DIFFERENT MEDIUMS. I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY, GO ON OUR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT SITE, OUR COMMUNICATIONS SITE, AND ALL OUR RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE MULTIPLE LINES OF COMMUNICATION COMING IN. SO, YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR EVERBRIDGE AND YOU GET THOSE NOTIFICATIONS, AND YOU CAN SIGN UP FOR A LOT OF OTHER THINGS WITH THE TOWN FOR DIRECT NOTIFICATIONS.

I'M GOING TO KIND OF TURN IT OVER TO CLAY FOR THE REST.

ALL RIGHT. THANKS, CHIEF.

YEAH. SO, IT WAS PRETTY HECTIC MORNING TUESDAY.

AS JAMES MENTIONED, IT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING WHEN 6 A.M., THE TOWN MANAGER'S CALLING YOUR PHONE, GOING, HEY, THERE'S A DOWNED TREE BLOCKING MY WAY.

SO ANYWAY, SO WE GOT OUT.

WE DID CLEAR ALL OF THE TREES.

I ALSO DO HAVE TO SAY OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT ALSO DID AN EXTREMELY GREAT JOB.

CHUCK AND HIS TEAM WERE OUT CLEARING DEBRIS AND ALSO CLEARING THE TRAILS AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS.

SO, IT'S NOT JUST FIRE.

AND US, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR BIGGEST GOAL IS TO GET THE ROADS OPEN SO MS GUYS CAN GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO.

SO WE JUST CLEAR THE ROADS, WE CUT EVERYTHING UP, PUT IT ON THE CURB AND THEN GO ON TO THE NEXT SITE TO CLEAR THAT ROAD.

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WE HAVE OUR WOODCHIPPER OUT, WE'RE CHIPPING IT ALL UP.

AND SO, THEY'RE STILL CLEANING UP SOME OF THAT DEBRIS TODAY.

AND SO, IT WAS KIND OF QUITE A BIT, QUITE A BIT OF WORK TO DO.

THE OTHER THING TOO IS FIRE DEPARTMENTS CHECKING ON REGISTERED RESIDENTS REGISTERED WITH THE STATE.

THESE ARE BASICALLY WELL, WELL CHILD, NOT WELL CHILD, BUT WELLNESS CHECKUP FOR THE FOLKS.

AND THEN AS, AS JAMES MENTIONED AND MAYOR, YOU MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE THE SPECIAL TRASH PICKUP THAT BEGAN TODAY.

I'LL LET YOU TALK ABOUT YOUR REGIONAL GREAT AND THAT STEER PROGRAM.

WE'RE MANDATED BY LAW SB 968, OR WE HAVE 65 ON OUR STATE REGISTRY.

WE HAVE CONTACTED ALL BUT THREE, AND WE'RE MAKING ONGOING EFFORTS TODAY TOMORROW TO TILL WE CONTACT THOSE.

MANY HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF THE REGISTRY.

AND IF ANYBODY WANTS TO BE ADDED TO THAT REGISTRY AGAIN, GET ON OUR WEBSITE AT THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PAGE.

FOR US. WE WE HAD A REGIONAL RESPONSE.

SO THE TORNADO THAT HIT ON MAY 25TH IN COOKE COUNTY.

I GOT THAT PHONE CALL PRETTY LATE THAT SAID, HEY, CAN WE GO UP THERE AND ASSIST? AND, YES, WE SENT OUR AMBUS WHICH IS OUR, OUR BIG AMBULANCE, IF YOU WILL.

IT HOLDS 20 TO 25 PATIENTS.

THEY NEEDED IT.

THEY HAD A LOT OF DISASTER RECOVERY AND SEARCH TO DO AS WELL AS THEY NEED SOMEONE SOMEPLACE TO HOUSE A LOT OF VICTIMS. WE ALSO SENT A MEDIC ONE OF OUR BATTALION CHIEFS ON OUR ENGINE TO HELP WITH THE RESPONSE.

THEY TREATED 37 PATIENTS.

IT WAS A VERY, VERY, VERY SAD EVENT IN THAT SEVERAL FAMILIES LOST LOVED ONES, AND OUR GUYS HAD TO HELP WITH THAT.

SO IT WAS VERY SOBERING AND A SOMBER EVENT.

BUT WE TRY TO TAKE OUT OF THAT AS LESSONS THAT WE CAN LEARN AND WE SHOULD REALLY BE PROUD OF FLOWER MOUND WE WENT UP THERE AND HELPED WITH INCIDENT COMMAND.

WE HELPED WITH NOT ONLY BODY RECOVERY, BUT SEARCH AND RESCUE EFFORTS CLEARING DEBRIS AND URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE.

SO WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THE MEN AND WOMEN THAT WENT UP THERE AND ASSISTED NOT ONLY NORTH DENTON, BUT COOK COUNTY AND GLENN.

YEAH. SO ONE OF THE THINGS I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYBODY'S FAMILIAR WITH, BUT THROUGH NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, US OR FLOWER MOUND AND OTHER PUBLIC WORKS OFFICIALS HAVE PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE CALL A P WORD.

SO IT'S THE PUBLIC WORKS EMERGENCY RESPONSE TEAM.

AND BASICALLY WHAT THAT WHAT THE WHOLE IDEA IS, IS THAT WE HELP EACH OTHER OUT, AND SO IF A TORNADO WERE TO HIT A NEIGHBORING COMMUNITY OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE WOULD GO HELP THEM OUT QUID PRO QUO.

AND SO IF WE EVER NEEDED IT THEN, THEY WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO HELP US OUT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THAT REGIONALIZATION ALSO HELPS US GET GRANT FUNDING.

AND SO THE COG ADMINISTERS THE GRANT.

BUT FOR INSTANCE, THIS IS ONE OF OUR EMERGENCY RESPONSE TRAILERS.

THIS TRAILER IS FULL OF CHAINSAWS, POLE SAWS, GENERATORS, EVERYTHING THAT YOU MIGHT NEED.

SO WE CAN JUST HOOK UP THE TRAILER AND GO RIGHT TO WHERE WE'RE NEEDED.

WE GET TO USE IT FOR ANY PURPOSES THAT WE WANT TO.

SO ANYWAY, SO WE GOT THE CALL GOT THE CALL IN FROM THE PILOT POINT VALLEY VIEW AREA FOR SOME ASSISTANCE.

WE WERE ABLE TO NOT ONLY SEND SOME OF OUR FOLKS, SO WE SENT WOOD CHIPPER, THE RESPONSE TRAILER DUMP TRUCKS TO HELP HAUL ALL THAT OFF.

AND THEN CARROLLTON SENT DUMP TRUCKS, MINI EXCAVATOR WITH GRABBERS.

FRISCO SENT GRAPPLE TRUCKS, WHICH ARE THE BIG TRUCKS THAT CAN PICK UP THE DEBRIS AND THROW IT IN THE BACK.

DUMP TRUCKS AND TOOL TRUCK, AND THEN GRAND PRAIRIE DUMP TRUCKS AND BACKHOE.

AND SO WE, CHIEF AND I WERE JUST JOKING.

IT WAS BASICALLY JUST A WARM UP FOR OUR OWN RESPONSE.

SO. VERY PROUD OF THAT.

AND THEN HERE'S SOME PICTURES OF THE DEBRIS.

THIS IS ACTUALLY UP THERE IN PILOT POINT VALLEY VIEW AREA.

YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THESE ROADWAYS ARE JUST DECIMATED.

A LOT OF DEBRIS TO PICK UP, YOU KNOW, STRUCTURES DOWN.

OH, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS, CHIEF, AND I WILL.

WELL, I WANT TO THANK YOU ALL.

I MEAN, IT WAS JUST SUCH A COORDINATED EFFORT.

I'M GLAD THE TORNADOES DIDN'T HIT US, BUT THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION.

IT WAS OUTSTANDING.

YEAH. SO MANY DEPARTMENTS WORK TOGETHER, AND I.

IT WAS SO WONDERFUL TO SEE THAT COLLABORATION.

AND MAYOR, IF I COULD.

BUT BEFORE WE CONCLUDE, I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP.

MANY OF YOU REFERENCED THE STORM DEBRIS PICKUP THAT THAT WE'VE DONE WITH WE'RE COORDINATING WITH REPUBLIC SERVICES.

I WANT TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHOUT OUT JERRY HARWELL AND THEIR WILLINGNESS TO WORK WITH US.

IT WASN'T VERY DIFFICULT.

YOU KNOW, ONCE WE STARTED TO KIND OF HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC SOME OF THE CONCERNS WITH STAGING THE EQUIPMENT UNDER THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCE.

EQUIPMENT, EXCUSE ME, THE DEBRIS UNDER NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, ARE REQUIRED TO BE BUNDLED IN SUCH WE COORDINATED QUICKLY WITH THEM TO TRY TO GET THIS SPECIAL PICKUP DONE THIS WEEK BECAUSE THAT WE DID IT IN SUCH AN EMERGENCY ARREST SITUATION.

THE COMMUNICATION INTERNALLY AT REPUBLIC DIDN'T QUITE FLOW AS WELL AS POSSIBLE.

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JERRY'S WORKING ON THAT, AND JUST ASSURE ANYBODY IF YOU'RE ITEMS THAT YOU SET OUT TO STORM DEBRIS WAS TAGGED, DON'T DISREGARD THAT.

IT WILL BE PICKED UP, AND JUST THE APPROACH, IF WE MISS YOU THIS WEEK, DON'T FRET.

WE'RE GOING TO TAKE AS MUCH TIME AS NEEDED TO PICK UP ALL THE STORM MATERIALS.

SO IT MIGHT BE NEXT WEEK THAT WE COME AROUND TO IT.

AND FOLKS AREN'T SHY ABOUT REACHING OUT TO OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE TEAM.

IF THEY RUN ANY ISSUES, ENCOURAGE THEM TO CONTINUE TO DO SO.

AND WE CAN COORDINATE WITH REPUBLIC.

BUT AGAIN, JUST DOING WHAT WE CAN TO HELP FOLKS OUT TO, TO MITIGATE SOME OF THE STORM DAMAGE.

BUT WE'LL JUST ENCOURAGE ANYBODY IF YOU HIRE A CONTRACTOR NUMBER ONE, CHECK AND MAKE SURE THAT DEBRIS REMOVAL IS ON YOUR INVOICE BECAUSE THEY THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. WHAT WE'RE FINDING IS SOME CONTRACTORS ARE SETTING IT OUT FOR THE TOWN TO COME PICK UP, AND THEY MIGHT BE STILL BEING BILLED.

BUT WE ENCOURAGE FOLKS THAT IF YOU ARE USING A LAWN SERVICE, HAVE THEM REMOVE IT.

IT'S JUST MORE EXPEDIENT.

AND, AND ALSO IF YOU'RE ABLE TO BUNDLE IT UNDER THE NORMAL REQUIREMENTS AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SET IT OUT LAST WEEK.

GREAT. BUT WE'RE JUST GOING TO TRY OUR BEST IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO GET EVERYTHING PICKED UP.

BUT I JUST ASK FOR PATIENCE, BUT CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH US IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ISSUES WITH YOUR STORM DEBRIS, PICK UP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL. JAMES, DID YOU WANT TO DO ANYTHING MORE ON YOUR REPORT? NO, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. THAT WAS IT.

YOU'RE ALL DONE. OKAY, THEN WE'LL GO.

[G. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]

WE'RE GETTING PRETTY CLOSE TO THE END OF TIRZ NUMBER ONE, AND I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO DISCUSS AS A COUNCIL AND ALSO WITH CLEAR TRANSPARENCY TO OUR PUBLIC WHAT THE INTENTION IS, WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE WITH REGARD TO TIRZ NUMBER ONE, HOW IT MIGHT BE HANDLED SUNSETTED EXTENDED, ETC..

AND I'D LIKE TO PUT IT ON A FUTURE AGENDA.

THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE CAN DO.

AND THE TIMING, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF COORDINATION INVOLVED IN THAT BECAUSE P3 WORKS, WHO'S DOING TOURS? NUMBER TWO IS ALSO WORKING WITH US ON STRATEGIES ON, ON CLOSING AND POTENTIALLY AN EXTENSION UNDER CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES OF TIRZ NUMBER ONE.

BUT ALSO WE ALSO HAVE THE COUNTY INVOLVED, AND WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH THEM ON OUR RESTATED PLAN FOR TIRZ NUMBER ONE.

SO WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING TO GET THOSE THINGS SOLIDIFIED.

I THINK GETTING THOSE SOLIDIFIED WILL PUT US IN A BETTER POSITION TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING.

SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO SO AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE TIME FRAME.

WE CAN GET THAT PUT TOGETHER.

WHAT I DON'T WANT TO DO IS COMMIT TO DOING IT IMMEDIATELY AND HAVE SOMETHING CHANGE OR SOME OTHER VARIABLE PRESENT ITSELF, SO.

I'D RATHER HAVE IT BE MORE COMPLETE SO THAT IF THERE ARE DECISIONS TO BE MADE, WE MIGHT BE IN A BETTER POSITION AS A RESULT OF THE WORK THAT'S DONE THE GROUNDWORK.

SO I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT IT TO BE NEXT TIME, OBVIOUSLY.

BUT GIVING YOU ENOUGH TIME, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE THEN HAVE ENOUGH TIME AS A BODY, AND ALSO TO HEAR FROM OUR PUBLIC TO DO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE IT WOULD JUST DISSOLVE.

ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. AND JUST FOR THE PUBLIC IS, IS THAT IT'S CURRENTLY CONTEMPLATED THAT TIRZ NUMBER ONE WOULD TERMINATE ON DECEMBER 31ST OF THIS YEAR.

OKAY. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY GET WE'LL BE WELL AHEAD OF THAT.

AND SO WE'LL WORK ACTIVELY.

AND I THINK THAT WE CAN FIND A SPOT TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, AND, AND AS SOON AS WE CAN FIND THAT SPOT WE'LL COMMUNICATE THAT.

OKAY. GREAT.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING? WE NEED SOME AGREEMENT I THINK WE NEED THREE PEOPLE..

LOOKING FOR THREE HEAD NODS. ARE WE HAVE WE DECIDED TO DO THAT? OKAY, OKAY. SOMEBODY WANT TO MAKE A.

WE GOT THAT.

ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON THERE.

ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL WORK.

[H. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

THE NEXT MEETING SCHEDULED IS JUNE 17TH FOR A REGULAR MEETING.

WILL EVERYBODY PLAN TO BE THERE? BE THERE I CAN TOO.

[I. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

OKAY. IT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[J. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS ]

WE GET TO CONDUCT THE INTERVIEWS FOR OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY STEPPING UP FORWARD TO APPLY FOR OUR PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION.

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SO WE STILL HAVE A FEW REMAINING INTERVIEWS TONIGHT.

SO WE'LL GO IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER, BUT WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE TONIGHT THAT ARE INTERVIEWING.

JUST TAKE A FEW MINUTES AND TELL US WHY YOU'RE INTERVIEWING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.

GIVE US A LITTLE INFORMATION ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND AND YOUR INTERESTS.

WE ARE GOING TO START WITH RYAN GETTY.

HI. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

THANKS FOR TAKING THE TIME TO INTERVIEW ME.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT WAS ONLY A FEW MONTHS AGO WHEN I INTERVIEWED BEFORE, SO, AND I SEE A COUPLE OF NEW FACES.

SO IT'S NICE TO SEE BOTH OF YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU. RYAN GETTY, I THINK THIS WILL BE 20 YEARS THAT MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND.

JUST A QUICK KIND OF SUMMATION.

WE MET AT UNDERGRAD AT NORTH TEXAS IN DENTON, AND WE USED TO DRIVE THROUGH FLOWER MOUND AND THINK, GOSH, THIS IS SUCH A NICE PLACE.

YOU KNOW, DREAMING THAT ONE DAY WE'D BE ABLE TO MOVE TO A PLACE LIKE THAT AND HAVE A FAMILY.

AND SO IT SOMETHING THAT IT WAS A DREAM THAT WAS FOR A LONG TIME TO LIVE HERE.

WE LIVED IN GRAPEVINE FOR A LITTLE BIT, AND AS SOON AS WE COULD BUY A HOUSE HERE, WE DID.

I HAVE ONE SON.

HE'S GOING INTO THE FIFTH GRADE AT WELLINGTON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

AND WITH THE FRIENDS THAT HE HAS, WE ARE NOT LEAVING.

HE WOULD NOT LET US LEAVE.

SO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND THE GUYS THAT I WORK WITH GET SICK OF ME TELLING THEM HOW THIS IS THE BEST PLACE TO LIVE.

YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY IN TEXAS, IF NOT THE UNITED STATES.

SO HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN MAKING SURE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS, CONTINUES TO BE EXCELLENT.

SEVERAL YEARS AGO, AND I'VE SERVED ON I'VE ALSO SERVED ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT FOR FIVE YEARS NOW, AND IT'S BEEN A GREAT EXPERIENCE.

IT'S REALLY GIVEN ME KIND OF INSIGHT INTO EXACTLY WHAT GOES INTO A TOWN'S GOVERNMENT.

I KNOW I'M AN ATTORNEY BY TRADE, SO I FEEL LIKE I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON HOW THESE OPERATE, BUT I HAD NO IDEA HOW MUCH WORK ACTUALLY GOES IN FOR ALL OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ALL THE BOARDS.

IT WAS JUST EYE OPENING, THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT REALLY IS PUT IN BY, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEER BY CITIZENS.

SO BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS REALLY KIND OF OPENED MY EYES ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW THINGS WORK ON THE TOWN.

BEFORE I DID THAT, THERE WERE SOME ELECTIONS, AND I HAD LIVED HERE FOR QUITE A WHILE, AND I REALLY HADN'T PAID ATTENTION.

AND I FELT KIND OF ASHAMED ABOUT THAT.

I WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS PROBABLY TEN YEARS AGO.

WAS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON IN THE TOWN.

AND MY MOTHER SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOU DOING ABOUT IT? SO THAT WAS A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

SO THAT'S WHEN I DECIDED TO GET INVOLVED.

TRIED TO GET ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT AND EVENTUALLY DID.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE HISTORY OF WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE AND, AND MY INTEREST IN PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND I'VE HAD THIS INTEREST FOR A WHILE.

YOU KNOW, I'VE TRIED TO WATCH WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOUGH JOB KIND OF LIKE YOU FOLKS HAVE YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE SERVED ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENTS HAVE GONE ON TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, EXCELLENT, EXCELLENT PEOPLE.

IN FACT, I'VE MET SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE THROUGH SERVING ON THE BOARD HERE IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

BUT WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION DOES IS EXTREMELY AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT JOB.

AND. ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK THAT I WOULD BRING TO THE TABLE IS THE ABILITY TO KIND OF SEE THE NUANCE IN THE ISSUES, BECAUSE AS WE'VE SEEN PEOPLE LOOK AT THINGS FROM THE OUTSIDE AND THEY THINK, WELL, IT'S A CLEAR BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE.

YOU SHOULD BE FOR SOMETHING OR AGAINST SOMETHING.

AND, YOU KNOW, AS EVERYONE HERE KNOWS, IT'S MUCH MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT.

SO I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I COULD BRING IN AND REALLY LOOK AT THE SUBTLETIES THE ISSUES YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOK AT IT KIND OF FROM A BIG PICTURE AND TRY TO TAKE EVERYBODY'S INTERESTS INTO ACCOUNT AND MAKE THE BEST DECISION FOR THE TOWN AND KNOWING THAT SOMEBODY IS GOING TO BE UNHAPPY, IT'S JUST ONE OF THOSE POSITIONS WHERE YOU'RE NEVER GOING TO MAKE ANYBODY HAPPY.

AND IF YOU TRY TO DO THAT, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO YOUR JOB.

SO UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S SOMETHING I LOVE SERVING ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.

I'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT AS LONG AS I CAN.

BUT I THINK I WOULD BE A GOOD FIT FOR PLANNING AND ZONING AS WELL.

I DO WANT TO MENTION BRIEFLY, THE LAST TIME I INTERVIEWED COUNCILMAN ENGEL BROUGHT UP A BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING.

I BELIEVE IT WAS FROM FOUR YEARS BACK.

SORT OF A SURPRISE.

I KIND OF FELT LIKE I WAS AMBUSHED A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE I DID NOT REMEMBER EVERY SINGLE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING I EVER ATTENDED.

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I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM.

THE ISSUE WAS IT WAS STILL BACK DURING THE COVID TIME WHEN WE WERE ALL WEARING MASKS.

SO ONE OF THE OTHER BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEMBERS HAD MADE COMMENTS THAT HAD A SIMILAR VOICE TO ME.

SO THE CONFUSION AROSE FROM THERE WERE COMMENTS THAT I DIDN'T MAKE.

SO I CLEARED THAT UP WITH COUNCILMAN ENGEL.

HE HAD SOME SINCERE CONCERNS AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY I WOULD SAY THAT AND THE OPEN CONVERSATION AND THEN VOTE A DIFFERENT WAY.

SO THAT WAS THE THAT WAS THE SOURCE OF THE CONFUSION.

SO APPRECIATE THE TIME, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AND I HAVE GONE BACK AND REVIEWED THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT MEETING, SO IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO SPECIFICALLY DIVE INTO ANY ISSUES, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH. OKAY. SO THANK YOU, RYAN, FOR YOUR SERVICE AND FOR STEPPING UP TO INTERVIEW FOR THIS POSITION.

AS I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THE MASTER PLAN IS A HOT TOPIC IN FLOWER MOUND AND IT'S BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

IT HAS BEEN CHANGED.

SOMETIMES IT'S BEEN CHANGED BACK.

CAN YOU SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN AND THE DIRECTION AND MAY OR MAY NOT TAKE? WELL, I THINK THE MASTER PLAN IS A IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA.

AND I THINK I BELIEVE AND FOR THE MOST PART STICKING TO IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S GOING TO DEVELOPMENT'S GOING TO COME.

WE ALL WE ALL KNOW THAT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT'S IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE? YOU KNOW, WHAT SORT OF WHAT SORT OF GIVE AND TAKE AND NEGOTIATION DO YOU HAVE BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPMENT AND INTEREST? AND THE MASTER PLAN IS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE TO, TO GUIDE THOSE DECISIONS.

AND SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE CHANGED.

ARE THERE ANY CIRCUMSTANCES UNDER WHICH YOU THINK IT MIGHT BE ALLOWED TO BE CHANGED OR IT SHOULD BE CHANGED? WELL, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING YOU'VE GOT TO REVIEW.

I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A GUIDE AND IT'S SEEMS TO BE THE, YOU KNOW, THE DIRECTION THAT I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD GO.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE CONSTANTLY EVOLVING LANDSCAPE.

YOU KNOW, NOTHING IS THE SAME AS IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.

NOTHING IS THE SAME AS IT WAS TEN YEARS AGO.

SO YEAH, I THINK, YES, YOU START OFF WITH THE VISION THAT THE TOWN HAD AND I THINK EVERYBODY KIND OF SHARES IN BUT YOU'VE GOT TO CONSTANTLY, YOU'VE GOT TO CONSTANTLY REEVALUATE AND ADJUST TO THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THINGS CHANGE.

AND I THINK BASED ON YOUR OPENING STATEMENT, YOU WOULD BE OPEN TO LISTENING TO TO ALL SIDES OF AN APPLICANT AND, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING FOLKS.

ABSOLUTELY. AND I THINK I THINK YOU HAVE TO THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.

YOU KNOW, YOU COME IN WITH YOUR OWN POINT OF VIEW AND YOUR OWN POSITION.

AND YEAH, HAVING LIVED HERE 20 YEARS, I LIKE THE TOWN THE WAY IT IS.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I CAME HERE AND DECIDED TO STAY HERE.

BUT, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S YOUR JOB.

YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT FROM AN OPEN MIND WITH WITH LOOKING AT EVERYBODY'S SIDE.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH, RYAN, YOU SAID THAT YOU VOLUNTEERED FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT BECAUSE YOU SAW SOME THINGS THAT YOU WEREN'T THRILLED ABOUT, AND YOU WERE COMPELLED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. I THINK WE ALL KIND OF GOT HERE THE SAME WAY.

BUT WHAT WAS THE THING OR THINGS THAT YOU SAW THAT YOU WEREN'T HAPPY ABOUT, THAT YOU WANTED TO CHANGE? WELL, I MEAN, I'LL TELL YOU, SO I LIVE IN LAKESIDE BECAUSE I WAS WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT.

I LOVE THAT AREA, I MEAN, I USED TO DRIVE THE DAMN ROAD.

I USED TO WORK IN SOUTH LAKE, AND I, THAT'S THE WAY I'D GO BACK AND FORTH TO WORK.

I LOVE THAT AREA.

WHEN IT WAS FIRST DESCRIBED TO ME, YOU KNOW WHAT THE VISION WAS OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT JUST PRISTINE PIECE OF LAND.

I JUST THOUGHT, MAN, THAT IS.

THAT'S GENIUS, THAT'S PERFECT.

PERFECT FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, AND WE BOUGHT A HOUSE THERE YOU KNOW, KNOWING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE MIXED USE, KNOWING THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE MULTIFAMILY, I WAS 100% ON BOARD WITH THAT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.

THERE WERE SOME ACTIONS TAKEN BY THE COUNCIL TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY, AND IT JUST SEEMED LIKE IT WASN'T DONE IN A REASONED, MEASURED WAY.

AND BUT AT THAT TIME WHEN I REALIZED, OKAY, I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT IT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW THE FACTS I DIDN'T LOOK AT.

I DIDN'T WATCH THE PLANNING AND ZONING MEETINGS.

I DIDN'T READ IT, I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, WHO AM I TO BE ABLE TO JUST JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT IT WITHOUT ACTUALLY KNOWING, YOU KNOW, THE HOW, WHY IT HAPPENED.

SO THAT WAS SORT OF THAT WAS SORT OF THE, THE GENESIS.

I FIGURED, WELL, I NEED TO EDUCATE MYSELF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF I'M GOING TO HAVE AN OPINION, I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT.

YEAH, I KNOW EXACTLY THE PROPOSAL YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

HOW ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT IN RIVERWALK IS A BIG DEAL RIGHT NOW.

THEY WANTED TO PUT A EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IN THERE.

HOW WHAT IS YOUR FEEL ON THAT?

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IT'S TOUGH FOR ME.

IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO IT'S TOUGH FOR ME TO SAY.

I MEAN, THE REASON I ASK IS BECAUSE THAT CAME TO TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

AND IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS VOTED ON.

SO I WAS WONDERING HOW YOU WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR HAVING THAT EXTENDED STAY.

YOU KNOW, AT FIRST BLUSH, MY GUT INSTINCT IS TO SAY, I WOULD NOT WANT THAT, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE ON PLANNING AND ZONING, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.

LOOK AT IT FROM EVERY SIDE.

OKAY. IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL THAT YOU WOULD FIND DESIRABLE IN THE RIVERWALK? WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK AGAIN, JUST KIND OF KIND OF MY GUT.

I'D LOVE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE A HIGHER END HOTEL THERE OR SOMETHING WITH THAT HAS MAYBE MULTI-USE TO BRING PEOPLE IN, NOT JUST TO STAY AT THE HOTEL, BUT TO BRING EVENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, GROW THAT AREA IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, JUST IF SOMEBODY ASKED ME, WHAT WOULD YOU PUT THERE IF YOU COULD DO ANYTHING AND THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE IT, A HIGHER, HIGHER END HOTEL WITH KIND OF MULTI-USE FACILITIES I THINK WOULD FIT REALLY GOOD THERE.

BUT I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS DO YOU? I JUST HAVE ONE MORE. SO FOR WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE OUR TOWN? WHAT COULD WE DO MORE OF? WHAT COULD WE DO LESS OF? WHAT? WHAT TICKS YOU OFF ABOUT OUR TOWN? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION, AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT THAT REALLY TICKS ME OFF ABOUT THE TOWN.

I DO, I MEAN, JUST PERSONALLY, I HAVE FRIENDS THAT ARE ON BOTH SIDES OF EVERY HOTBED ISSUE IN THIS TOWN.

AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE THE NATIONAL POLITICS.

IT'S SOMETIMES A LITTLE DIFFICULT WHEN EVERYBODY'S LIKE, NO, YOU GOT TO BE THIS SIDE, NO, YOU GOT TO BE THIS SIDE.

AND I TYPICALLY SAY, WELL, NO, I'M KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT SOME POINTS AND THEY'VE GOT SOME POINTS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD AGAIN WAVE A MAGIC WAND, I WOULD HAVE THE CITIZENS BE ABLE TO CONVERSE MORE ABOUT THE ISSUES.

YOU KNOW, I THINK, AGAIN WITHOUT LOOKING AT ANY SPECIFIC PROPOSALS.

I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY, WITH NEW DEVELOPMENTS, HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE, MORE PARK.

I MEAN, THAT WOULD AGAIN, IF I COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND AND JUST DICTATE HOW EVERYTHING IS DONE, I WOULD SAY EVERY DEVELOPMENT'S GOT TO HAVE MORE OPEN SPACE, YOU KNOW, TO STAY KIND OF WITH THE KIND OF THE IDEA OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

I THINK THAT'S WHY A LOT OF PEOPLE MOVED HERE ORIGINALLY, YOU KNOW, JUST TREMENDOUS NATURAL BEAUTY.

THANK YOU. DOES ANYBODY ELSE? DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT. WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR IT.

YEAH. OKAY.

WE HAVE MURTHY MANTHA.

I'M BOTCHING NAMES TODAY.

DID I GET THAT RIGHT? OKAY. THANK YOU.

GOOD EVENING HONORABLE MAYOR AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND CITIZENS.

THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY HERE.

ALREADY KNOW SOME FAMILIAR FACES BECAUSE I'VE BEEN ON THE CULTURAL AND ARTS COMMISSION.

MY NAME IS MURTHY MANTHA.

I LIVE AT 4528 CASSANDRA DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND.

WE HAVE A NICE CORNER HOUSE.

WE MOVED HERE ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

I SAW PRESENTATIONS TODAY.

I CAME TO THIS COUNTRY AROUND THE TIME THE MARCUS HIGH SCHOOL WAS JUST GETTING BUILT.

IF YOU WANT TO KNOW HOW OLD I AM, I'M AS OLD AS A GRAPEVINE LAKE.

THEY JUST STARTED CONSTRUCTION, I THINK, IN 1952, I THINK.

SO I'M JUST BROUGHT SOME NOTES WITH ME ABOUT 23 PAGES, BUT I WANT GO THRU ALL OF THAT TO TWO THINGS. I'M ON THE CULTURAL ARTS COMMITTEE AND I WAS VERY HAPPY TO BE THERE.

I'M A PRACTICING ARTIST.

I GO OUT AND PAINT.

AND WHAT DO YOU NEED TO GO OUT AND PAINT? BEAUTIFUL PLACES.

SO I CONSIDER FLOWER MOUND AS A NECKLACE.

SO YOU LOOK AT THE CROSS TIMBERS, WE HAVE 35 E AND W.

W AND WHICHEVER WAY YOU LOOK AT IT AND THEN IT'S LIKE EMERALDS, RUBIES AND OPALS AND THEN DIAMONDS, BLUE DIAMONDS, EMERALDS OR GREENS.

SO IT'S JUST LIKE A JEWEL OF A TOWN, WHICH IS A [INAUDIBLE] BETWEEN THESE TWO FREEWAYS.

AND THEN WE HAVE 1171, WHICH IS JUST SUCH A BEAUTIFUL PARKWAY COMING INTO FLOWER MOUND.

AND 1171 CONNECTS TO THE BUSINESS AREA TO THE OTHER SIDE.

SO IT'S A VERY, VERY INTERESTING TOWN.

I LIVED IN THE UNITED STATES AND TRAVELED A LOT COMPARED TO RESTON AND HERNDON, WHICH IS ACTUALLY EXTREMELY CONTROLLED PLANT CITY.

BUT NOW IT GREW OUT OF CONTROL.

ANYWAY, SO I LIKE FLOWER MOUND VERY MUCH.

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SHE WAS THE STUDENT BODY PRESIDENT.

SHE WAS PROBABLY MORE ELOQUENT THAN I AM.

SO A FEW THINGS I OBSERVED.

FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NOTHING THAT I CAN BRING TO THE TABLE.

EXTREMELY WELL RUN ORGANIZATION, AND WHEN I LOOKED AT THE STORM REPORT.

OH, MAN, WHAT A SERVICE.

EXTREMELY WELL COORDINATED.

IT'S ALL PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.

AND THE I THINK SOME FUNDS FOR THE STORM WATER MAYBE AROUND 7 MILLION.

THAT WAS IN THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS PLAN IN THE MASTER PLAN.

SO I THINK THAT'S A VERY WELL ALLOCATED FUNDS FOR DEALING WITH THESE STORMS, WHICH IS VERY GOOD.

BY THE WAY, I READ ALL THE MASTER PLAN ABOUT 133 PAGES, THREE THINGS THAT REALLY INTERESTED ME.

ONE IS THE OF COURSE, THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WERE VERY, VERY WELL EDUCATED.

GOOD INCOME AND HOUSEHOLD AVERAGE HOUSEHOLD IS ABOUT $500,000.

EXTREMELY, VERY, VERY UNIQUE, HOUSE PROFILE OF RESIDENTS IN FLOWER MOUND.

SO WE CANNOT REALLY YOU CAN PICK ANYONE FROM THE CITIZEN POOL TO BE ON SERVING ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, SO YOU CAN SAY, SO WHAT CAN I BRING IN? WELL, I'VE BEEN IN THE CORPORATE WORLD NEARLY 50 YEARS.

I JUST RETIRED IN THE BANK RUNNING GLOBAL OPERATIONS AND DOING BUSINESS STRATEGY, BUSINESS PLANNING, LONG TERM PLANNING AND COMPLIANCE AND REGULATIONS AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.

SO WHAT THAT TELLS ME IS, OR WHAT THAT GAVE ME WAS AN ABILITY TO LOOK AT BOTH SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM, AND SPECIFICALLY THINGS LIKE WHAT IS THE COST VERSUS BENEFIT? SO LET'S SAY I'M INVESTING 100,000 IN THIS.

WHAT AM I GOING TO GET? AND THEN THE OTHER VERY IMPORTANT ASPECT OF WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF THE COMMUNITY TO THE GROWTH.

HOW DOES IT ALIGN WITH OUR MASTER PLAN.

AND THEN HOW DO WE REALIZE THE VALUE? SOMETIMES THEY ARE VERY, VERY INTRINSIC.

SOMETIMES THEY ARE NOT OBVIOUSLY SEEN.

RIGHT. SO WE HAVE SOME CLEANING CREW, THEY CLEAN IT AND THEY'VE DONE NOBODY REMEMBERS ANYTHING ANYMORE AFTER A WEEK.

RIGHT. YOU JUST GO WITH YOUR DUTY.

BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF INTANGIBLE VALUES THAT THAT CAN BE PUT IN WE CAN FUND ALONG WITH THE OTHER THING IS, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER VERY WELL THE ONGOING COST OF THE NEW INITIATIVE.

SO LET'S SAY WE PUT IN A NEW BUILDING.

WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO MAINTAIN THAT BUILDING? FIVE YEARS, NEXT FIVE YEARS.

SO WE GOT THIS NEW, NEW, BEAUTIFUL TOWN HALL.

THIS REMINDS ME OF STOCKHOLM, WHERE THE NOBEL PRIZES WERE GIVEN.

I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST GIVES ME THAT FEELING.

SO THOSE ARE THE KIND OF ASPECTS.

SO DID WE DO COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS? DID WE LOOK AT VARIOUS ASPECTS? WHOM ARE WE PLEASING MORE AND WHO ARE WE NOT PLEASING MORE? THIS IS ALWAYS AN IMPACT.

ALSO, SOMETIMES THERE ARE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF ANY INITIATIVE.

SO HOW DO WE HANDLE THOSE THINGS? RIGHT. SO SOMEONE WHO HAS IN THE BUSINESS WORLD FOR A LONG TIME, AS MUCH AS I HAVE BEEN, SO WE CAN BRING IN SOME THOUGHT PROCESS INTO IT AND SAY, OKAY, YEAH, THIS WORKS, THIS IS REASONABLE.

WE MAY NOT PLEASE EVERYBODY, BUT AT LEAST WE HAVE CONSIDERED VARIOUS ASPECTS OF THE SOLUTION, WHATEVER THAT MIGHT BE.

I'M TALKING IN GENERAL TERMS, BUT THAT'S KIND OF SO ANY TIME THINK OF A ZONING, WHICH IS A VERY, VERY SIMPLISTICALLY, WE NEED A PLACE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE WANT TO PUT EVERYTHING IN ITS PLACE.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING OUT OF PLACE HERE? WHEN WE FIRST DROVE TO FLOWER MOUND FROM ON 2499, THERE WERE SO MANY TREES.

BUT NOW, 24, 99.

LOOK AT THAT. THERE IS A TOWN ONE OR SOMETHING LIKE THERE IS A NEW DEVELOPMENT.

IT LOOKS VERY GOOD.

ACTUALLY, I HAVE TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO A COUPLE OF FOLKS ON THE ENGINEERING SIDE OF THE ROADS.

I DID EVERYBODY REMEMBER THE JERROD ROAD OR WHY THERE IS ONLY ONE WAY COMING FROM JERROD TO SOUTH TO 2499? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.

BUT THAT IS A REALLY BRILLIANT IDEA, BECAUSE YOU COULD MOVE ALL THE TRAFFIC DURING THE RUSH HOUR DOWN TO THE 2499.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT WAS THE INTENT OR NOT, BUT JUST A BRILLIANT IDEA.

YOU DON'T NEED THAT GOING UP BECAUSE WE CAN WAIT AT THE TRAFFIC LIGHT COMING DOWN THERE.

IT'S ALSO THERE IS ALSO A FLOOD ZONE.

MY WIFE GOT TRAPPED THERE GOING TO IRVING.

SO MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN PUT IN THE PLAN TO ALLEVIATE THAT, AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING DEVELOPMENT THERE AND ESPECIALLY HIGH DENSITY.

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MAYBE THAT IS LIKE 60 BY 50 OR 7540.

THAT'S A BIT TOO NARROW.

I THINK THE MINIMUM SHOULD BE INCREASED FROM 3000 TO SOMETHING ELSE.

SO THERE ARE SOME OF THE IDEAS I HAD, AND LOOKING AT THE MASTER PLAN, ESPECIALLY HIGH DENSITY, WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HIGH DENSITY.

OTHERS ARE OKAY 5000 7000 510,001 ACRE.

SO THOSE ARE ALL GOOD ENOUGH.

BUT THE HIGH DENSITY IS WHAT I HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CONCERN.

DRIVING THE OTHER DAY FROM I WENT TO A RESTAURANT IN FORT WORTH COMING BACK AND MY WIFE COMMENTED ON THIS.

THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POINT.

THE TRAFFIC ON 2499 COMING FROM THE WEST AS IT ENTERS THE FLOWER MOUND ROAD, THERE IS SO MUCH TRAFFIC NOW, SO IT SHOULD BE I THINK IT'S PART OF ZONE SEVEN, BUT IT SHOULD BE MARKED AS RED NOW IN OUR ROADMAP BECAUSE SO MUCH TRAFFIC PEOPLE ARE STARTED USING IT GOING EAST WEST INSTEAD OF 1171.

THEY FIGURED OUT THIS WAY.

AND THEN YOU CAN TURN RIGHT ON 2499 AND GO TO THE AIRPORT WITHIN 15 MINUTES.

IT'S EXTREMELY CONVENIENT, BEAUTIFUL ROAD.

BUT FOR US IN LIVING IN WELLINGTON AREA, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A HIGH TRAFFIC AREA.

SO ALSO WHEN WE CROSS, WE PUT THE PRESS THE BUTTON AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A LIGHT, BUT THERE IS STILL A LOT OF TRAFFIC GOING AT 45, 50MPH BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE COMING DOWNHILL. AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE OBSERVATIONS.

NOT THAT THEY ARE REALLY BAD, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I OBSERVED THINGS AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND HELP ANY WAY I CAN DO IN PLANNING. NOW, YOU CAN SAY, WHAT DID YOU DO IN YOUR ARTS COMMISSION? WELL, I ATTENDED ALL THE MEETINGS EXCEPT ONE VOLUNTEER AT THE ART FESTIVALS AND THEN AT THE ARTIST RECEPTIONS.

I CONTINUED TO PRACTICE MY OUR PAINTINGS.

AND I WON SOME AWARDS RECENTLY IN MCKINNEY, FRISCO.

SO THAT IS GOING ON.

BUT WHAT I WANTED TO DO WAS SEE IF I CAN DO A LITTLE BIT MORE SERVICE BY JOINING THIS COMMISSION EVERY YEAR I GO TO INDIA TO VISIT MY FAMILY MEMBERS.

MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS ARE STILL THERE.

LAST YEAR I WAS THERE AROUND NOVEMBER AND A COUPLE OF MONTHS, SO I MAY DO THAT EVERY YEAR.

SO OTHER THAN THAT, I THINK I SHOULD BE ABLE TO HELP PARTICIPATE IN THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION NOW.

THAT WAS MY BRIEF.

ACCOLADES. AND OH, YEAH, THERE IS A 407 AT CHINN CHAPEL.

THAT IS AN INTERESTING INTERSECTION.

SO THERE IS A ROUNDABOUT.

OH, I REALLY LIKE THE ROUNDABOUTS IDEA.

YOU GUYS ARE DOING VERY WELL.

MAYBE WE CAN PUT SOME YELLOW STICKERS TO REFLECT AT NIGHT.

OTHERWISE THE PEOPLE GO ON THE CURB.

THAT'S GOOD, BUT THE 417 CHINN CHAPEL HAS BECOME, YOU KNOW, A TRAFFIC REALLY, REALLY TRAFFIC, ESPECIALLY ON WEEKENDS.

BECAUSE WHAT ARE PEOPLE DOING? INSTEAD OF TAKING A 2499, THEY GO STRAIGHT AND TURN RIGHT CHINN CHAPEL TO GET INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS.

NOW THAT HAS BECOME A BIG TRAFFIC.

SO AND THEN THERE ARE SOCCER FIELDS.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE, KIDS ARE THERE WE WANT TO MAKE THAT INTERSECTION A LITTLE BIT MORE SAFE.

I LIKE I LIKE YOUR FEEDBACK.

SO WHAT? I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

YOU YOU'RE APPLYING FOR PLANNING AND ZONING.

I LIKE YOUR PASSION.

AND I KNOW RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT DOING THE INTERVIEWS FOR TRANSPORTATION.

BUT WHAT MADE YOU DECIDE ON PLANNING ZONING VERSUS TRANSPORTATION? BECAUSE I AM HEARING A LOT OF TRANSPORTATION VIBES.

IT'S ALL PART OF THE MASTER PLAN.

WHEREVER YOU THINK I AM, I'M.

I CAN BE A BETTER SERVICE.

I'M FINE.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I JUST WANT TO SAY APPRECIATE YOU COMING TODAY.

AND I THINK YOU GAVE A PRETTY GOOD DETAILED SPEECH THERE.

SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY BIG QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE. THE OPPORTUNITY.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE ONE MORE INTERVIEW.

JODY SEALY. HELLO.

WELCOME. I'M DON'T HAVE QUITE THE SPEECH THAT..

YOU DON'T HAVE 23 PAGES, I DON'T.

MY NAME IS JODY SEALY.

I CURRENTLY SERVE ON THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.

GOT THE LITTLE MEMO LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY.

SO HERE I AM.

MY BACKGROUND IS I'M AN ATTORNEY, A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY.

SO I THINK THAT JUST SAYS IN ITSELF THAT I HAVE SOME QUALIFICATIONS FOR REVIEWING STATUTES AND PLANNING AND ZONING AND THOSE TYPE OF

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I'VE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND SINCE 2015.

MY CHILDREN ARE ALL GROWN NOW, SO THAT IS WHY I STAND HERE BECAUSE I WAS MAMA FOR SO LONG, AND NOW I'M AN EMPTY NESTER, SO I HAVE TIME TO GIVE.

I REALIZE IT'S TWO, I THINK IT'S TWO MONDAYS A MONTH.

SO I HAVE TIME.

THE KIDS ARE GONE.

I LOVE THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AND HOW BEAUTIFUL IT IS.

IF I HAD ONE THING TO SAY, IT'S THE ALL OF THE BUILDING.

WHICH, OF COURSE, WE CAN'T STOP.

WE ALL KNOW THAT. WE CAN'T STOP THAT.

BUT WE CAN PLAN IT AND TRY TO MAKE IT AS BEAUTIFUL AS WE CAN, WHILE ALLOWING THE LANDOWNERS TO DO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO.

I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THEM WANT TO MAKE THEIR PROFIT ON THEIR PROPERTY, AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY VALUES HAVE DONE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM THEM. BUT THE REST OF US STILL HAVE TO LIVE HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS, AND SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S THAT'S DONE PROPERLY, I THINK. I LIVE IN CANYON FALLS, SO I'M IN WEST FLOWER MOUND, SO I FEEL LIKE THAT MIGHT BE I GUESS WHAT I CAN OFFER THAT MAYBE FROM ANOTHER PART OF FLOWER MOUND DOESN'T SEE EVERY DAY.

FIRST RANCH IS A BIG ISSUE OUT THERE.

I'VE ATTENDED ALL OF THE MEETINGS WITH REGARDING THAT AND ALL OF THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT MULTIFAMILY VERSUS SINGLE FAMILY AND THE RETAIL THAT WE NEED.

I UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT GOING ON FROM THAT POINT OF VIEW THAT MAYBE ISN'T SEEN IN THE OTHER PART OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT I GUESS THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS I DON'T SEE EVERYTHING GOING ON ON THE OTHER SIDE OF FLOWER MOUND THAT MIGHT BE MORE, YOU KNOW, NECESSARY.

BUT I DO, I HAVE ATTENDED THOSE MEETINGS.

I AM LOOKING AT ALL OF THAT.

I DO MULTIFAMILY HAS COME UP A LOT, AND GROWTH HAS COME UP A LOT.

AND CONVERSATIONS BETWEEN MYSELF AND MY HUSBAND, I FEEL LIKE MULTIFAMILY WHEN I WAS YOUNGER WAS A WHOLE DIFFERENT DEFINITION OR TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY THAN WHAT IS LOOKING FORWARD.

WITH HOUSING PRICES SO HARD FOR THE YOUNGER GENERATION TO GET INTO HOMES, RENTING IN APARTMENTS, MULTIFAMILY IS PROBABLY SOMETHING MORE THAT THEY WILL STAY IN LONGER THAN PERHAPS MY GEN, I FEEL OLD, BUT MY GENERATION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE IN OUR 20S, WE GOT A HOUSE, WE STARTED OUR FAMILY.

THAT'S HOW WE DID THINGS.

MY KIDS, THEIR, YOU KNOW, 27, 30 YEARS OLD, THAT IS NOT ANYWHERE NEAR WHERE THEY ARE AT.

SO I FEEL LIKE WE MIGHT HAVE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK SOMETIMES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIFAMILY AND REALLY LOOK AT WHAT NOT NECESSARILY THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR WHAT, BUT JUST WHAT THE MULTIFAMILY ACTUALLY WOULD BE IN EACH SITUATION.

BECAUSE I DO FEEL LIKE THAT'S CHANGING VERSUS APARTMENTS OR WHAT WE.

THOUGHT OF MULTIFAMILY WHEN WE WERE YOUNGER.

SO THAT'S THAT'S JUST ONE THING THAT I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT WHEN WE'VE HAD OUR CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE MULTIFAMILY, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE AN ISSUE THAT REALLY HITS EVERYBODY WHEN THEY'RE BRINGING UP THEIR PLANS.

FIRST RANCH AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PLAN THAT'S AT THE FRONT OFF OF DENTON CREEK, BUT I WENT TO THAT MEETING AS WELL, AND THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO PUT HOMES AND THEY'RE TRYING TO BUILD A BUFFER, BUT THERE'S SOME THEY WANT SOME MULTIFAMILY UP IN THAT AREA TOO.

SO I JUST I FEEL LIKE WE CAN TRY TO CONTROL THAT, BUT ALSO WE NEED TO BE WE NEED TO THINK HOW THINGS ARE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE THOUGHT BEFORE AND PLAN APPROPRIATELY.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE THE MASTER PLAN IS THERE.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THINGS CHANGE.

KIDS, I MEAN, THEIR VIEWS ARE DIFFERENT.

AND YOU JUST GOT TO TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

I THINK WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AND TRY TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN FOR IT.

SO SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE A BIG SPEECH PLANNED, BUT THAT'S THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM.

PERFECT. BUT DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? GOOD. WELL, THANKS, JODY, FOR YOUR SERVICE TO TOWN AND FOR COMING IN TONIGHT.

I WONDERED, BEING A REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY, DO YOU HAVE VERY MANY CLIENTS HERE WHERE YOU WOULD FEEL YOU NEED TO RECUSE YOURSELF FROM A DECISION ON PLANNING AND ZONING?

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I'M MORTGAGE LENDERS ARE ACTUALLY MY CLIENTS OKAY.

AND SO I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY THAT THAT DO ANYTHING IN FLOWER MOUND.

SO I DON'T THINK I WOULD HAVE I DON'T THINK THAT THEY WOULD, WOULD CROSS I HAVE THE REAL ESTATE KNOWLEDGE LIKE LEASING AND CONTRACTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I DO ON A DAILY I DO MORTGAGE.

OKAY, GOOD. THANK YOU.

I APPRECIATE THAT WHEN THERE IS MORTGAGE ANYMORE.

AND I WAS WONDERING WHY DID YOU DECIDE ON PLANNING AND ZONING? I WAS INITIALLY INTERESTED IN IT JUST BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY STARTED WITH THE WAREHOUSES, WHICH I'M SURE THAT STARTED A LOT OF PEOPLE.

BUT WHEN THAT CAME UP, I WAS LIKE, WOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON? AND THAT'S WHEN I WAS I WAS KIND OF LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE.

YOU CAN'T COMPLAIN ABOUT SOMETHING.

YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT SOMETHING.

IF YOU DON'T GET INVOLVED.

YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE MEETINGS.

YOU HAVE TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SEE EYE TO EYE WITH EVERYBODY, BUT YOU NEED TO TRY TO, I SAY, MEDIATE.

AS A MOM OF THREE I'VE, THAT'S WHAT I'VE DONE ALL MY LIFE, IS MEDIATE.

IF ANY OF YOU HAVE, I'M SURE HAVE CHILDREN.

YOU KNOW, YOU'RE CONSTANTLY IN THE MIDDLE TRYING TO KEEP EVERYBODY HAPPY.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I FEEL I DO WELL, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT'S A SKILL FOR PLANNING AND ZONING BECAUSE YOU I MEAN, I MAY NOT LIKE THE PERSON COMING IN FRONT OF ME, YOU KNOW, WALKING IN THINKING HE'S GOTTEN HIS PLANS EVERY SINGLE TIME.

SO WHAT AM I? YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO DO WHAT I WANT YOU TO DO.

AND SO I, I HAVE TO APPROACH THAT JUST IN THE MIDDLE AND HEAR ALL THE SIDES.

AND, YOU KNOW, GENERALLY I WILL WALK INTO SOME PLACE HAVING A SET OPINION ON SOMETHING.

BUT AFTER I'VE LISTENED TO EVERYBODY AND EVERYTHING, I SIT BACK AND IT'S LIKE.

THEY MIGHT HAVE A SMALL POINT, AND I STILL AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT THAT MIGHT WORK.

AND, YOU KNOW, TRY TO KIND OF PUT IT TOGETHER.

BUT RARELY WHEN I WALK INTO SOMETHING DO I COME OUT WITH EXACTLY THE SAME OPINIONS THAT I WENT IN WITH AFTER I LISTENED TO EVERYBODY, BECAUSE WE ALL THINK WE'RE RIGHT.

BUT SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HEAR SOMEBODY ELSE, YOU'RE LIKE, OH YEAH, MAYBE I JUST DIDN'T THINK THAT THROUGH.

SO THAT'S I JUST THINK PLANNING AND ZONING IS TRYING TO DO THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE TRY TO DO THE BEST FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED, BECAUSE IT'S THE TOWN. IT'S NOT JUST ONE PERSON AND WHAT ONE PERSON THINKS THEY NEED.

SO THAT'S.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YEAH. JODY, YOU CERTAINLY HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ISSUES OUT WEST THAT ARE OF CONCERN TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.

AND SO SINCE FIRST RANCH HAS BEEN APPROVED AND HAS BEEN APPROVED, THERE'S STILL OTHER UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES OUT THERE.

AND SOME OF THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ALSO WOULD LIKE SOME HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY.

DO YOU THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS FOR MORE HIGH DENSITY MULTIFAMILY OUT WEST? I DON'T NECESSARILY SAY THAT WE NEED THAT, BUT I CAN'T STAND HERE AND SAY THAT WE SHOULDN'T ENTERTAIN IT AGAIN, JUST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF THAT HAS CHANGED.

A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY WILL BE YOUNG ADULTS THAT DON'T WANT A HOME YET, THAT ARE THAT WANT TO BE CLOSE TO THEIR JOB.

WE'RE I, WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT.

PUTTING FAMILIES IN SMALL SPACES.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE AUTOMATICALLY THINK, THAT YOU HAVE A LARGE FAMILY AND A SMALL SPACE, AND THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.

I THINK A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY, IF WE CAN PUT RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT TYPE OF MULTIFAMILY IT IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF WE CAN DO MULTIFAMILY BUT REQUIRE THEM TO PUT, YOU KNOW, RETAIL UNDER AND MAYBE JUST DO THE REQUIRE THEM TO DO MULTIFAMILY 1 OR 2 STORIES ABOVE THAT.

I FEEL LIKE THINGS LIKE THAT YOU MAYBE CAN DO THAT.

SO I'M OPEN TO IT.

BUT I DON'T WANT TO OVER OVERDO AS WELL.

BUT I DO THINK THAT PEOPLE, WHEN THEY HEAR MULTIFAMILY, IF THEY'RE MY AGE OR OLDER, THAT'S AUTOMATICALLY WHAT THEY THINK IS IT'S JUST GOING TO BE UGLY APARTMENTS WITH THE PARKING LOT, WITH A BUNCH OF FAMILIES IN THERE, AND THAT MULTIFAMILY IS.

SO THERE'S SUCH A RANGE OF IT.

AND AGAIN, THAT'S MY MORTGAGE BACKGROUND.

I SEE THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTIES AND THINGS THAT CAN FIT IN THAT DEFINITION.

SO I DO I THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD LOOK AT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING OUT.

THANK YOU, JODY, AND APPRECIATE YOU STAYING INVOLVED WITH THE TOWN AFTER THE WAREHOUSES AND EVERYTHING.

OH, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? I'M SORRY, I DID, BUT GO AHEAD.

SORRY. WHAT IDEAS DO YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE THE TOWN? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO MORE OF? WHAT? WELL, I REALLY LOVE FLOWER MOUND.

SO LET'S JUST SAY THAT I'VE LIVED IN ARLINGTON FOR OVER 15 YEARS, AND I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I THEIR PLANNING AND ZONING, I DON'T KNOW REALLY WHO WAS IN THAT BECAUSE IT DROVE ME CRAZY THAT THERE WAS NO PLAN.

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SO I THINK FLOWER MOUND IS IS GREAT AND IT'S ON ON TRACK.

I JUST, I FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO SOMEHOW KEEP THAT BEAUTY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT ME HERE WAS THE BEAUTY.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO REMAIN ONE OF THE BEST TOWNS TO MOVE TO ON THE SURVEYS AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ELSE YOU SEE.

BUT THAT'S GOING TO GO AWAY IF WE DON'T SOMEHOW TRY TO MAKE IT.

AND I THINK THE WESTERN PART IS WHAT WE STILL HAVE UNDEVELOPED AND SOME LANDOWNERS WANTING THINGS.

AND I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY STRATEGIC AND CAREFUL HOW WE ALLOW THEM, YOU KNOW, TO BUILD STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FLOWER MOUND, I DON'T KNOW, I JUST, I THINK IT'S GREAT.

I JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST A QUICK QUESTION.

HAVE YOU, HAVE YOU ATTENDED ANY P&Z MEETINGS OR WATCHED THEM AT HOME? I WATCHED THEM AT HOME.

I LIKE TO LOOK ONLINE.

I'VE WATCHED THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES BACK WHEN THE WAREHOUSES WERE.

AND THEN I'VE WATCHED A COUPLE WHEN WHEN FIRST RANCH BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, NOT THAT I'M NOT INTERESTED IN WHAT HAPPENS IN ALL OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT YOU SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO JUST PICK A SPOT, PICK A LANE AND TRY TO REALLY FOCUS ON IT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PROJECT IS EXACTLY WHAT IT NEEDS TO BE.

SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'VE.

BEEN ON AND THEN I'LL BE QUITE HONEST TO.

WE'RE IN ARGYLE ISD, SO I'VE BEEN WATCHING THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE BECAUSE OF THE TWO HIGH SCHOOLS VERSUS ONE HIGH SCHOOL THING GOING ON.

SO. YES, BUT.

THANK YOU. ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT.

WELL, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT FOR THOSE INTERVIEWS.

I KNOW IT'S HARD, BUT WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY COMING OUT AND WE'LL BE MAKING A DECISION ON ALL THE INTERVIEWS.

[K.1. Development Agreement Townlake Phase 5 & 6 - Consider approval of a Development Agreement with Toll Southwest LLC., for the construction of certain Master Planned Town Roadway, Utility and Park improvements associated with the Townlake Phase 5 & 6 residential development; for $1,783,578.50 and authorization for the Mayor to execute same on behalf of the Town. ]

THE FIRST ONE IS THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR TOWNE LAKE, PHASE FIVE AND SIX.

CLAY, YOU'RE GOING TO START.

YES. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

HI AGAIN.

OKAY, SO WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE TOWN LAKE FIVE SIX DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.

THIS IS ESSENTIALLY ANOTHER ONE OF THOSE TWO COMMA RULES.

UNDER PREVIOUS MAYORS, IF IT WAS HAD TWO COMMAS IN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT AND THE MAYORS WANTED TO HAVE AN ITEM ON IT, AND I ASSUME WE'RE STILL WANTING TO DO THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY. OKAY, SO HERE'S PRETTY MUCH THE CAPTION.

IT'S FOR ROADWAYS, UTILITY AND PARK IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH TOWNE LAKE, PHASE FIVE AND SIX.

IT'S JUST UNDER $1.8 MILLION.

THIS IS BASICALLY THE TOWN'S PORTION OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS TO MEET OUR MASTER PLAN.

SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WHERE WE'RE AT, WE'RE OVER HERE AT WALSINGHAM SCENIC AREA.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS AREA QUITE A BIT.

I'D GIVE YOU AN IDEA HERE.

HERE IS OUR MASTER PLAN.

YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS LITTLE L IS ESSENTIALLY A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THOROUGHFARE CLASSIFICATION THAN THE REST OF THE SCENIC, WHICH WE JUST TALKED ABOUT. SO BASICALLY THIS IS GOING TO EXTEND THAT WALSINGHAM OVER TO THE EXISTING SCENIC SECTION.

IT'S GOING TO REBUILD SCENIC DRIVE JUST FROM 1171 TO WALSINGHAM.

SO THAT'S SHORT.

NORTH SOUTH PIECE OVER THERE BY CIRCLE R AND BASICALLY ALSO INSTALL A 12 INCH WATER LINE THAT IS IDENTIFIED ON OUR MASTER PLAN AND THEN UPGRADE THE TRAIL. THIS IS ALONG 1171 FROM 8 FOOT TO 12 FOOT ACCORDING TO OUR MASTER PLAN.

SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF ROAD SECTION WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, THIS IS THAT THAT TYPICAL RURAL COLLECTOR THAT'S BASICALLY GOING TO GO HERE, EXTEND WALSINGHAM OVER TO SCENIC. AND THEN SAME SECTION FROM 1171 DOWN TO SCENIC, AND THIS WILL BASICALLY TAKE CARE OF THE TOWN'S PORTION.

HERE'S THE 12 INCH WATERLINE.

AND THE EIGHT FOOT TRAIL.

SO MOST MOST OF THE REIMBURSEMENT IS FOR THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS BECAUSE THE THAT SECTION AND THEN THE WATER LINE AND THE TRAIL IMPROVEMENTS ARE BASICALLY JUST PARK FEE CREDITS.

AND WITH THAT I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS.

SO THE EIGHT FOOT TRAIL, DO WE GO IN AND DESTROY THE EIGHT FOOT TRAIL OR ARE WE JUST EXTENDING FOR MORE FEET ONTO IT? CURRENTLY, THERE'S NOT A TRAIL THERE AT ALL.

OKAY. SO INSTEAD, WHENEVER THEY STARTED, THE MASTER PLAN HAD AN EIGHT FOOT TRAIL SECTION.

AND SO DURING THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT TIME, OUR PARKS AND TRAILS MASTER PLAN WAS UPDATED.

SO THIS BRINGS IT UP TO THAT.

GOTCHA. OKAY.

YEAH. ANYBODY ELSE? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

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SECOND. OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL THERESA? THANK YOU.

OKAY. THAT ITEM PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

YOU'RE GOING TO DO. THE LEXIN IS GOING TO DO THE PRESENTATION FOR THE HILLTOPS.

[K.2. Helistops - Consider and discuss zoning requirements for helistops and other aircraft- based uses. ]

SO I HAVE JUST A BRIEF PRESENTATION ABOUT HELICOPTER AND ROTORCRAFT LANDING FACILITIES IN FLOWER MOUND.

THIS IS REALLY MORE OF A WORK SESSION ITEM, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON REGULAR AGENDA.

WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE A WORK SESSION COMING UP, SO I DIDN'T WANT YOU ALL TO THINK I HAD A FULL HERE'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO KIND OF THING.

IT'S MORE JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BASIC INFORMATION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, STAFF CAN GET YOUR FEEDBACK ON HOW YOU MIGHT WANT TO MOVE FORWARD.

SO JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND.

THERE HAVE BEEN SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HELICOPTER ACTIVITY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS RAISED BY RESIDENTS OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.

ALTHOUGH I WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT IT WAS ISOLATED INCIDENTS, IT'S NOT LIKE THIS IS A CONSTANT PROBLEM, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A FEW COMPLAINTS.

ALL PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED ACTIVITY WAS DETERMINED TO BE OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN'S ZONING, AND IN OVS AND OR CITATIONS WERE ISSUED, DEPENDING ON THE CIRCUMSTANCES.

SO THE HATCHED AREA IS WHERE THESE HAVE COME UP.

AND YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THIS AREA IS ZONED ESTATE AND SOME OF IT IS ZONED AGRICULTURE.

AND SO THAT MAYBE MEANS A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU'RE SEEING THE THIS CHART OF ALL THE ZONING DISTRICTS AND WHERE THE USE IS ALLOWED.

SO YOU CAN SEE THAT NONE OF THESE TYPE OF FACILITIES ARE ALLOWED IN A STATE SFA AT ALL, AN AIRPORT OR LANDING FIELD, A HELIPORT OR A HELISTOP.

SO THAT'S WHY DEFINITELY WASN'T THAT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ALLOWED IN THAT ESTATE AREA.

AND THEN WITH AG ZONING, THEY'RE ONLY ALLOWED WITHIN SUP.

AND WE HAVEN'T ISSUED ANY SUPS FOR ANY OF THOSE TYPES OF USES.

SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN'S ORDINANCES.

BUT SO DID WANT TO GIVE YOU THOSE THREE DEFINITIONS.

THERE ARE THREE USES IDENTIFIED IN THE THE TOWN'S LAND USE CHART CURRENTLY THAT HAVE TO DO WITH LANDING FACILITIES FOR FOR AIRCRAFT.

HELISTOP IS A LANDING PAD FOR OCCASIONAL AND INFREQUENT USE BY ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT, NOT EXCEEDING A GROSS WEIGHT OF 6,000 POUNDS, AND NOT FOR REGULARLY SCHEDULED STOPS AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TOWN.

HELIPORT MEANS A LANDING FACILITY FOR ROTARY WING RING ROTARY WING AIRCRAFT SUBJECT TO REGULARLY SCHEDULED USE, AND MAY INCLUDE FUELING OR SERVICING FACILITIES FOR SUCH CRAFT AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE TOWN.

SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THAT HELISTOP AND HELIPORT HELIPORT IS A SOUNDS A LITTLE MORE COMMERCIAL TO ME.

THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE YOU KNOW, THE ABILITY TO DO FUELING AND SERVICING FACILITIES THERE, WHEREAS A HELISTOP IS MEANT FOR MORE INFREQUENT USE, SMALLER SIZED AIRCRAFT, THAT SORT OF THING.

AND THEN LASTLY IS AIRPORT OR LANDING FIELD MEANS AN AREA IMPROVED FOR THE LANDING OR TAKEOFF OF AIRCRAFT APPROVED BY THE TOWN FOR OPERATION AS AN AIRCRAFT LANDING FACILITY.

SO NOT REALLY NOT REALLY A LOT IN THAT DEFINITION THAT TO GO ON.

THE TOWN DOESN'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS FOR HELIPORTS, HELIPADS OR AIRPORTS LANDING FIELDS.

BESIDES THE FACT THAT THEY ARE REQUIRED TO FIRST OBTAIN AN SUP, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO ADD CONDITIONS ALONG WITH ANY SUP. SO WHATEVER YOU WOULD THINK WAS APPROPRIATE ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

BUT WE DO HAVE SOME SUPS WHERE THERE ARE CONDITIONS KIND OF BUILT INTO THEM.

SO FOR INSTANCE, MOST RECENTLY WE HAD, I THINK ONE OF THE THE INDOOR PIN VET USE AND WITHIN THAT WITHIN THE TOWN'S CODE IS A CONDITION THAT YOU HAVE TO USE SOUNDPROOFING SO THAT NOISE CAN'T BE HEARD AT THE PROPERTY LINE.

SO THAT'S ALWAYS A REQUIREMENT THAT GOES WITH THAT SUP IN ADDITION TO WHATEVER THE TOWN COUNCIL MIGHT WANT TO ADD.

SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY KIND OF ALWAYS REQUIRED CONDITIONS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THESE.

NOW, I WILL SAY THE THE ONLY CONCERN WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS TYPE OF USE CURRENTLY IS ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE.

SO IN THE AG ZONING DISTRICT THEY ARE PERMITTED, YOU CAN SEE OVER ON THE NON RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS EITHER WITH SUP OR PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN SOME OF OUR NON RESIDENTIAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

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THEY DID NOT HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE SUP THAT WAS JUST ALLOWED WITH THAT USE IN THE RIVERWALK.

WE DID REACH OUT TO OUR BENCHMARK CITIES TO GET INFORMATION, SEE IF THEY HAD ANY CONDITIONS WE MIGHT WANT TO ADOPT FOR COUNCIL TO CONSIDER.

THE ONLY THING WE REALLY SAW FROM THE BENCHMARK CITY SURVEY WAS SEVERAL OF THEM, WITHIN THEIR DEFINITION OF HELISTOP INCLUDED LANGUAGE THAT SAID, NO REFUELING, MAINTENANCE, REPAIRS, OR OUTDOOR STORAGE OF HELICOPTERS IS PERMITTED.

SO JUST CLARIFYING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THOSE THINGS YOU CAN SEE IN THE DEFINITIONS, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER HELISTOP.

IT MORE SPECIFICALLY SAYS IT CAN BE INCLUDED IN HELIPORT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IT'S PROHIBITED.

SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO CONSIDER ADDING INTO THAT DEFINITION.

THIS IS I'M NOT GOING TO READ ALL OF THIS TO YOU, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THE SOURCE FOR THE TOWN CODE REFERENCES TO PENALTIES, I KNOW.

ALSO, SOME OF THE CONCERN HAS BEEN WITH THE AMOUNT OF THE PENALTY IN THE SITUATIONS WHERE A VIOLATION OCCURS AND KIND OF WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS WITH THAT? SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF OPTIONS.

JUST BECAUSE THE STATE HAS PUT IN PLACE LANGUAGE THAT THAT DEFINES HOW MUCH MUNICIPALITIES OR ALLOWED TO PENALIZE IN THE SITUATION OF VIOLATIONS, AND IT'S A MAX OF $2,000 AND WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED THAT.

SO SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION HERE.

IT'S BASICALLY RESTATING THE LANGUAGE FROM SECTION 54.01 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE, BUT DID JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU THAT BACKGROUND.

IT CAN EXCEED 2000.

IT TYPICALLY FOR A ZONING VIOLATION, I THINK IT TYPICALLY DOES NOT EXCEED 500 FOR AN INITIAL VIOLATION.

AH LEXIN BEFORE YOU GO ON, I WELL, I SEE YOU DO HAVE ANOTHER SLIDE ABOUT THAT, BUT I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION THAT DOVETAILS INTO THE SUP PROCESS AND MAYBE BRING YOU ON TO WEIGH IN. I KNOW OUR HANDS ARE BASICALLY TIED BY THE STATE WITH REGARD TO CODE VIOLATIONS AND PENALTIES AND STACKING IN DAYS AND MAXIMUM AMOUNTS, BUT WOULD IT BE ALLOWABLE TO RESCIND AN SUP IN A SITUATION OF X NUMBER OF CODE VIOLATIONS? SO THERE'S NO STATUTORY PROHIBITION AGAINST THAT.

YOU ALWAYS RUN THE RISK OF A TAKINGS CLAIM BEING FILED AGAINST THE TOWN.

IF YOU ESSENTIALLY APPROVE AN SUP THAT DOES NOT HAVE A TIME OR EXPIRATION PERIOD ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND THEN A PROPERTY OWNER BUILDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE ZONING THAT COUNCIL IS GIVEN AND THEN YOU JUST ELIMINATE IT ALTOGETHER.

THAT COULD GIVE RISE VERY LIKELY WOULD GIVE RISE TO A CIVIL SUIT.

I GUESS I'M TALKING ABOUT THE INITIAL SUP AND LEXIN.

CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DID YOU STATE THAT WE COULD INCLUDE LANGUAGE EITHER IN THE BEGINNING FOR EVERYTHING, OR INDIVIDUALLY AS SUPS COME FORWARD? YES. SO IF IT WERE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE SPECIFIC SUP THAT SAYS WITH TWO CODE VIOLATIONS OR THREE VERIFIED CODE VIOLATIONS, YOUR SUP IS IMMEDIATELY SUSPENDED.

THAT WOULD GIVE THEM NOTICE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THAT BEFOREHAND.

RIGHT. SO AN SUP RECOGNIZING THAT IT STANDS FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT.

IT'S NOT A PERMIT AT ALL.

IT'S IT'S ZONING ON THE GROUND.

IT'S LEGISLATIVE.

THE ONLY WAY TO END AN SUP IS TO EITHER HAVE A SPECIFIC DATE CERTAIN IN THE SUP WHEN IT'S GRANTED.

OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO TAKE FORMAL ACTION TO REZONE THE PROPERTY TO REMOVE THE SUP, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE AN ADMINISTRATIVE OCCURRENCE THAT WOULD TRIGGER THE LOSS OF SOMETHING GRANTED LEGISLATIVELY BY COUNCIL.

IN OTHER WORDS, THE SUP CAN'T GO AWAY BY SOME OTHER ACTION NOT FULFILLING THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SOUP.

CORRECT? WOULD THE BETTER ALTERNATIVE BE TO ANNUALIZE THE SOUP FOR RENEWAL? AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE BETTER GROUNDS TO SAY THIS IS NOT GRANTED BASED ON YOUR.

IGNORING THE CODES AND..

CORRECT. AND DO YOU HAVE A FEELING, I KNOW THIS IS REALLY HARD, BUT DO YOU HAVE A FEELING OF THE POTENTIAL FOR LITIGATION IF WE DID PURSUE THAT ROAD? I THINK THAT'S THAT'S GOING TO BE A LOT GREATER OF A CHALLENGE FOR SOMEONE TO BRING CANDIDLY.

PEOPLE CAN FILE SUIT FOR ANY REASON.

SURE. OF COURSE. BUT YEAH, I THINK A COURT IS MUCH MORE WILLING TO ACCEPT THE FACT THAT THE PROPERTY OWNER MOVED FORWARD WITH THE LAND USE, WITH THE UPFRONT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WAS FOR A FINITE PERIOD AND SUBJECT TO FORFEITURE.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU. AND MAYOR PRO TEM MORTON, WE DO HAVE LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE THAT ALLOWS FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWAL OF SUPS.

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AND SO THE WAY THAT IT WOULD WORK IS THAT IT IF THERE WERE NO VIOLATIONS, IF THERE WERE NO ISSUES, AS LONG AS THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED THE LIKE, YES, WE WANT TO RENEW THIS FOR ANOTHER AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, THEN IT WOULD GO FORWARD.

BUT IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY COMPLAINTS OR VIOLATIONS ISSUED OR THAT SORT OF THING, THEN IT WOULD POTENTIALLY HAVE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DECISION.

SO WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN OUR CODE THAT KIND OF EXISTS ALREADY, AND YOU COULD SELECT THE TERM THAT YOU WANTED TO APPLY IT.

WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE DONE MAYBE A ONE YEAR AND A FIVE YEAR FOR WE'VE ONLY APPLIED IT IN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS.

BUT SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO YOU AS WELL.

I THINK IF WE WENT FORWARD, I WOULD REALLY WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING SHORTER.

I WOULDN'T WANT THE FIVE YEAR.

THAT'S JUST TOO LONG, I THINK A ONE YEAR AND THEN MAYBE IN GOOD GRACES, YOU KNOW, AUTOMATIC RENEWAL TO TWO, ETC., SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

AS LONG AS LONG AS ALL THE RULES ARE ESTABLISHED AND CLEARLY DEFINED AND OBJECTIVE UP FRONT, THEN THOSE ARE THE RULES THAT WOULD APPLY.

AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT TO CHALLENGE BECAUSE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING THAT WE'RE JUST GIVING STAFF DIRECTION ON.

THAT'S THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

YES. OKAY. WE DID SOMETHING SIMILAR WITH THE RIVERWALK.

YES. YEAH. FOR THAT ONE, IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ACTUALLY AN SUP.

SO IT WAS THE SAME PRINCIPLE.

Y'ALL BASICALLY JUST KIND OF WROTE IN THAT KIND OF SAME PRINCIPLE OR POLICY, BUT WITH THEIR THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE ADDITIONAL SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS, I BELIEVE.

AND THEN THIS IS JUST ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE THAT TIES IT BACK TO CODE ENFORCEMENT IS WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO ENFORCE OUR ORDINANCES AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO I WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON STAFF'S ACTIONS, ESPECIALLY MORE RECENTLY AS THESE POTENTIAL ISSUES HAVE ARISEN.

SO THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL NOTICE OF VIOLATIONS HAVE BEEN SENT TO THE APPROPRIATE PROPERTY OWNERS.

IN ADDITION, STAFF HAS ALSO CREATED A PROCESS FOR WITNESSES TO SUBMIT THEIR WITNESS STATEMENTS AND EVIDENCE AND OFFERED NOTARIZATION SERVICES BECAUSE NOTARIZATION IS REQUIRED. WE'VE COMMUNICATED WITH THE HELICOPTER COMPANY TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE OF THE TOWN'S ORDINANCES AND OH, YOU ACTUALLY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO FLY INTO THIS AREA UNLESS THEY HAVE AN SUP.

AND BY THE WAY, NOBODY HAS AN SUP AT THIS POINT.

UPDATED THE TWO HOAS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN THE RECENT CASES, CONSULTED OUR LEGAL COUNSEL, AND AS STAFF IS REVIEWING WITH THE TOWN'S MUNICIPAL JUDGE THE CREATION OF A FINE SPECIFIC TO A PROHIBITED HELICOPTER LANDINGS.

JUST AGAIN, THE JUDGES WHO SETS THE FINE AMOUNT WITHIN THE STATE LAW LIMITS, WHICH CAN RESULT IN A MAXIMUM FINE OF $2,000.

GENERAL MUNICIPAL ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, ARE A FINE OF UP TO 500, AS WE ALREADY DISCUSSED.

THIS IS JUST SOMETHING ELSE I WANTED TO MAKE Y'ALL AWARE OF, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S COME UP SOME RECENTLY, AND I THOUGHT I WOULD BE LAX IN NOT TELLING YOU.

HEY, THIS THIS IS KIND OF BROUGHT INTO THIS DISCUSSION AS WELL.

WE HAVE BEEN APPROACHED IN THE PAST BY DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE PROVIDERS.

THE CLOSEST DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE CURRENTLY IS IN LEWISVILLE.

IT'S PART OF A PILOT PROGRAM THEY'RE DOING WITH THE WALMART ON 1171.

BECAUSE DRONES ARE A ROTORCRAFT, A STANDALONE DRONE LANDING AREA WOULD ALSO BE CATEGORIZED AS A HELISTOP USE.

SO THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD CURRENTLY BE ADDRESSED.

WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PILOT PROGRAM THAT'S HAPPENING IN LEWISVILLE SO FAR.

BUT JUST SO Y'ALL WERE AWARE OF THAT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY TO PROHIBIT AIRCRAFT FROM USING THE AIRSPACE.

SO BECAUSE THOSE ARE GOING BACK AND LANDING IN AT THE LEWISVILLE WALMART, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN DELIVER TWO FLOWER MOUND.

BUT AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT LANDING HERE, WE DON'T CONTROL THAT.

THAT SERVICE.

SO THE AIRSPACE IS REGULATED BY THE FAA.

LEXIN YOU SAID THAT HELIPAD AND DRONE PAD ARE THE SAME.

SO IF SOMEONE APPLIED FOR AN SUP FOR THEIR DRONE, THEY COULD POTENTIALLY THEN ALSO FLY A HELICOPTER IN AND LAND ON.

IT WOULD BE THE SAME.

NO, I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T I DON'T THINK IT WOULD BE REGULATED TO THAT.

YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET A HELIPAD FOR A SINGLE DRONE.

LIKE AS A RESIDENT, THIS IS MORE FOR IF YOU'RE HAVING A LARGE SCALE LIKE DRONE DELIVERY SERVICE, LIKE SAID, THE WALMART IS DOING FOR YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A WHOLE LANDING AREA AND THAT SORT OF THING.

JUST AS AN INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT AT YOUR HOUSE, WE WOULDN'T REQUIRE YOU TO GET AN SUP FOR THAT.

SO SOMEBODY CAME IN AND WANTED TO PUT IN A DRONE STATION.

WE COULD PUT IN OUR SUP LANGUAGE THAT THIS IS EXCLUSIVE TO DRONES AND.

YEAH. OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU.

YEAH. I MEAN, WITH ANY SUP AGAIN, THE COUNCIL HAS THE ABILITY TO SPECIFY CONDITIONS IN IT AND HOW YOU WANT IT TO APPLY AND WHAT YOU'RE REALLY PERMITTING.

OKAY. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT SOME CONSIDERATIONS, SOME OPTIONS THAT YOU COULD GIVE STAFF DIRECTION ON

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COULD INCREASE THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICT.

AND OR CONSIDER CREATING MINIMUM SETBACKS FROM ADJACENT RESIDENTIALLY ZONED PROPERTIES.

COULD CREATE AN ACCESSORY USE RELATED TO HELICOPTERS, ROTORCRAFT LANDINGS, AND AGRICULTURAL ZONING.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO MORE NARROWLY KIND OF TAILOR WHAT YOU WERE GIVING THE DIRECTION ON, IT COULD BE FOR JUST THE ACCESSORY USE IN THE RESIDENT IN AG, BECAUSE AG IS REALLY THE ONLY ONE THAT'S RESIDENTIALLY ZONED.

BUT THEN POTENTIALLY IT MIGHT NOT ALLOW IF YOU HAD SOME SORT OF WELL, THIS'LL BE ACCESSORY, BUT IT.

IF YOU HAD ANOTHER USE THAT WANTED TO TAKE UP THE WHOLE PROPERTY OF THE AGRICULTURAL SITE TO DO THIS SORT OF USE, THEN IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT FROM SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT LAND KIND OF IN THEIR BACKYARD TYPE OF THING.

AND THE PRIMARY USE OF THE PROPERTY IS A RESIDENCE.

COULD REQUIRE A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR, FOR ALL AIRPORTS, AIRFIELDS.

AGAIN, I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE IF THAT'S A CONCERN, BUT THERE ARE A COUPLE.

IT'S INDUSTRIAL TWO AND RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT WOULD ALLOW IT BY RIGHT FOR AIRFIELD AND FOR THE HELIPORTS AND HELIPADS.

IT'S IN CAMPUS INDUSTRIAL AND CAMPUS COMMERCIAL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THAT BUT COULD ALSO REQUIRE THE SUP THERE.

SO THOSE WERE KIND OF MY SUGGESTIONS OF A DIRECTIONS WE COULD GO IN.

I WANTED TO GET COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK.

LEXIN, CAN YOU TELL ME HOW MANY PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE HAVING TO REACH OUT TO THAT ARE OPERATING HELIPADS? BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE IS ACTIVELY OPERATING A HELIPAD.

THERE ARE, I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES WHERE SOMEONE HAD BEEN ILLEGALLY LANDING A HELIPAD FOR THEIR OWN PERSONAL USE.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. SO TWO PROPERTIES, AND OUR BENCHMARKS INCLUDE COMMUNITIES THAT MIGHT HAVE THE KIND OF RESIDENT WHO FLIES AROUND IN A HELICOPTER LIKE THERE AREN'T MANY.

AND I WOULD THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT HAVE TO REACH FOR A LITTLE FURTHER AFIELD.

RIGHT. WE WE DID KIND OF EXPAND OUR, OUR REACH TO, TO LOOK AT MORE PLACES.

WE JUST DIDN'T FIND A LOT.

GRAPEVINE HAD A SPECIFIC LIKE HELIPAD OR HELICOPTER.

I FORGOT WHAT IT'S CALLED ORDINANCE, BUT THERE WASN'T A LOT OF NEW INFORMATION IN IT BESIDES THINGS LIKE, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO FOLLOW FAA REGULATIONS.

YOU CAN'T BE INTOXICATED WHILE DRIVING A HELICOPTER.

THERE WASN'T THINGS THAT WAS LIKE, OH, LET'S WE'LL USE THAT.

YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE A GOOD CONDITION TO APPLY.

SO WHAT WE DID TRY TO KIND OF BROADEN OUR REACH TO THE CITIES WE WERE LOOKING AT, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T FIND A LOT.

SO I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PROHIBIT HELIPADS OR OPERATING HELICOPTERS.

I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE IT CAN BE DONE IN THE WAY THAT'S THE MOST RESPECTFUL TO THE OTHER NEIGHBORS.

LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE A BIG PROPERTY ON THE LAKE AND YOU CAN FLY IN OVER THE LAKE, I MEAN, THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT PROBABLY BE FINE TO ME.

BUT I JUST I WOULD KIND OF WONDER, HOW DOES HIGHLAND PARK DEAL WITH THIS? I MEAN, THEY PROBABLY HAVE PEOPLE THAT TAKE A HELICOPTER TO AND FROM OCCASIONALLY.

AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT? IS THERE ANY KIND OF BEST PRACTICE OUT THERE THAT WE COULD TRY TO ADOPT? WE TRIED TO LOOK AT HIGHLAND PARK WHEN WE DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING.

DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING. OKAY. JUST FOR A ONE MORE LOCATION.

WELL, JUST SOMEBODY WHO'S, WHERE ARE PEOPLE WITH HELICOPTERS LIVING IN THE METROPLEX? WELL, ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS IT'S I DON'T WANT TO IGNORE THAT THIS IS A PROBLEM IN THESE TWO INSTANCES, BUT IT'S IN TWO INSTANCES.

AND I DON'T WANT TO OVERREGULATE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT REALLY AN OVERWHELMING PROBLEM THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

AND CREATE MORE BURDEN, MORE, MORE ISSUES WHEN IT'S NOT REALLY A PROBLEM, EXCEPT FOR A FEW ISOLATED INCIDENTS.

AND THE PROBLEM WE ALSO HAVE IS IT'S ALREADY NOT ALLOWED AND IT'S STILL HAPPENING.

SO IF WE ADD MORE REGULATIONS WHERE IT'S STILL NOT ALLOWED, IT COULD STILL HAPPEN.

AND I THINK AS YOU MENTIONED, LEXIN AND BRYN, YOU KNOW, OUR HANDS ARE SOMEWHAT TIED AS TO WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO WITH THE STATE.

SO I DON'T WANT TO THROW OUR HANDS IN THE AIR AND SAY THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

OH, WELL. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I DO THINK WE ARE SOMEWHAT LIMITED.

AND IF WE CAN PURSUE THE THE ACTIONS THAT WE THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US THROUGH THE STATE FOR THESE SPECIFIC INSTANCES, I THINK I'D BE MORE IN FAVOR OF DOING THAT INSTEAD OF MORE OVERARCHING REGULATIONS THAT ARE TRYING TO FIX A PROBLEM THAT WE DON'T HAVE, EXCEPT FOR THOSE TWO CASES.

I THINK I'M KIND OF THERE TOO, AND IT'S IT WAS AN ESTATE ZONING THAT THESE TWO INCIDENTS HAPPENED IS THAT RIGHT? ONE WAS AN ESTATE AND ONE WAS IN AGRICULTURE.

ONE WAS AN AG. OKAY, OKAY.

YEAH. THAT PERSON WE CODE ENFORCEMENT INFORMED THAT PERSON THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE AN AG, YOU COULD YOU COULD PURSUE AN SUP FOR THIS USE, BUT

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SO REALLY, I THINK WE ARE TRYING TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MIGHT WANT TO REGULATE IF IT WERE AN AG SITUATION.

JUST THE EXTRA LANGUAGE IN THERE, RIGHT? SO, I MEAN, DO YOU ALL WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? WELL, I'D BE GOOD LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FOR THINGS THAT COME UP IN THE FUTURE KEEPING THIS IN MIND.

AND WE NEED TO ADD THIS LANGUAGE TO ANY SUPS OR ANY OTHER ZONING IN THE FUTURE.

BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED TO GO RETROACTIVELY AND ADD CARTE BLANCHE LANGUAGE TO TO EVERYTHING, BUT I'M OPEN TO OTHER THOUGHTS AS WELL.

I KIND OF DO LIKE ATTACKING IT NOW, BECAUSE THEN IT SETS THE PRECEDENT AND IT ALSO SETS THE EXPECTATION.

SO WE KNOW WE HAVE HAD A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS AND IT A HOMEOWNER WROTE IN QUITE ELOQUENTLY AND VERY THOROUGHLY BECAUSE IT'S BEEN VERY DISTURBING TO THEM.

SO I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S WORTHY OF SOME ATTENTION.

LIKE YOU SAID. I DO THINK WE SHOULD INCREASE OR IMPROVE THE DEFINITIONS, JUST AGAIN, SETTING THE EXPECTATIONS, BECAUSE IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SET THAT NOW WHEN THERE AREN'T PROBLEMS. AND SO THEN MAYBE IT COULD STAVE OFF PROBLEMS. BUT IF PEOPLE DO BREAK IT, WE CAN SAY, LOOK, THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENFORCE IT.

SO I KNOW THE STATE TIES OUR HANDS ON HOW WE CAN ENFORCE THINGS.

BUT I STILL FEEL LIKE SETTING THE EXPECTATION IS A BETTER THING TO DO.

SO I LIKE THE OPTIONS THAT YOU'VE LISTED.

LEXIN I LIKE THE IMPROVEMENT TO THE DEFINITIONS.

I THINK WE COULD DISCUSS FURTHER.

HOW BIG WOULD WE WANT THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE WITHIN THE AG ZONING? KNOWING THAT WE HAVE A FINITE NUMBER OF AG ZONED PROPERTIES, PROBABLY MORE THAN FIVE ACRES, IT'S NOT LIKE WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF THEM.

AND ALSO, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF AT LEAST UNDERSTANDING A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT INDUSTRIAL TWO AND RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS, BECAUSE AS WE HAVE PARTS OF TOWN THAT CONTINUE TO DEVELOP, I MEAN, HIGH RISES IN DALLAS HAVE HELIPADS, AND THAT'S PROBABLY WHERE SOME OF THE HOMEOWNERS, PROBABLY NOT HIGHLAND PARK.

RESIDENTIAL, BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING IN TOWERS AND OFFICING THERE BECAUSE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME CLASS A, A PLUS, LAKESIDE OFFICE IS COMING SOON AND THEY MAY WANT A HELIPAD.

SO I THINK IF WE CAN GET AHEAD OF IT A LITTLE BIT, IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO EVERYONE.

AND SO JUST JUST AN FYI THAT BECAUSE LAKESIDE HAS ITS OWN ORDINANCE, THE CHANGES THAT YOU MAKE TO THIS WOULD NOT AUTOMATICALLY APPLY TO THAT.

BUT HOW ABOUT IN THE WEST THEY DON'T HAVE ALL THEIR.

WELL, I MEAN THE WHEN YOU SAY THE WEST IT WOULDN'T APPLY TO FIRST RANCH BECAUSE AGAIN THEY HAVE THEIR OWN MU ORDINANCE.

OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS, THIS WOULD APPLY, OKAY, ANY CHANGES TO THE TOWN'S CODE.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, I WOULD WANT SOME LANGUAGE IN ABOUT THE RENEWAL, LIKE THE 12 MONTH RENEWAL PERIOD AND THEN AUTO RENEWAL ONLY UPON GOOD STANDING, MEANING NO ORDINANCE VIOLATIONS, CODE ENFORCEMENT.

YEAH, I THINK I'M WITH ANN ON THIS ONE.

I THINK THAT ADDING MAYBE ALL FOUR OF THESE WOULD BE A GOOD, GOOD METHOD TO HELP KIND OF SET THE EXPECTATION AND KIND OF DEFINE WHAT WE AS A TOWN WANT ESPECIALLY WITH INDUSTRIAL AND RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICTS.

BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM, WHAT'S LEFT COULD BE NEXT RESIDENTIAL.

SO WE MIGHT HAVE THE SAME ISSUES AS WHAT WE'RE HAVING WITH THIS, THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES OR PARTICULAR INSTANCES.

SURE. I MEAN, AND JUST AGAIN, JUST FOR THE COUNCIL'S KNOWLEDGE, THE FOR THE RECREATIONAL ZONING DISTRICT, THE ONLY AREA THAT'S ZONED THAT IN TOWN IS A PART OF CIRCLE R? YES.

NOW AND SOMEBODY COULD ALWAYS REQUEST TO REZONE PROPERTY TO BE REC ZONED.

SO IT'S NOT THAT IT WOULDN'T EVER BE APPLIED ANYWHERE ELSE, BUT CURRENTLY THAT'S THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT'S ZONED REC.

AND THEY HAVE THE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW TO LAND HELICOPTERS THERE IF THEY WANT TO.

OR DO THEY. YEAH.

WELL, NOT ACTUALLY.

NOT A HELICOPTER. THAT'S ONLY FOR THE AIRPORT.

AIRFIELD. SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO BUILD AN AIRFIELD, BUT.

OKAY. YEAH.

YEAH, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO PRESS PEOPLE TO BRING THE SUV FORWARD AND CONTINUE TO USE ENFORCEMENT UNTIL WE CAN GET THAT COMPLIANCE.

AND I THINK ONCE WE SEE AN SUV, REALLY THE FREQUENCY SEEMS LIKE.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS.

IF THIS IS EVERY DAY, I CAN SEE HOW IT WOULD DRIVE YOU CRAZY.

BUT IF IT WAS ONCE A MONTH, I MIGHT BE INCLINED TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, AND THE SITUATION ARISES AND YOU'RE IN A POSITION TO WHERE THAT'S AN OPTION FOR YOU, THEN, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY I WOULD WANT THEM TO HAVE THAT OPTION AS LONG AS THEY AREN'T GOING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE SUP WOULD NEED THOSE CONDITIONS.

IT'S JUST EVERY SITUATION IS SO UNIQUE THAT WE REALLY NEED THE SOUP IN FRONT OF US AND TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO LET'S JUST KEEP PRESSING FORWARD WITH ENFORCEMENT AND GET COMPLIANCE.

SO THAT'S GOOD.

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I DON'T KNOW IF I GOT DID I WE LET'S.

YEAH, LET'S YEAH. LET'S MAKE SURE WE DEFINE THIS BECAUSE IT'S WE DO.

SO WE WANT TO ADD THE LANGUAGE FOR THE IN THE CODE FOR REGARDING THE SCP RENEWAL.

RIGHT. YEAH I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT I MEAN RIGHT NOW.

WELL I THINK WE'RE DOING WE'RE NOT SAYING FOR SURE WE WANT THESE THINGS.

WE'RE ASKING STAFF TO BRING THESE THINGS FORWARD TO SHOW US WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE.

YEAH. THE ONLY ONE I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH, I GUESS, IS THE SECOND ONE, BECAUSE I'M JUST NOT SURE EACH UNIQUE SITUATION IS SO UNIQUE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I COULD SAY A MINIMUM IS THE RIGHT AMOUNT.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I'M NOT SURE.

LIKE I'M READY TO GO ON.

I DON'T KNOW, ANNE, WHAT DO YOU DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT? I, I DON'T KNOW HOW LABOR INTENSIVE IT WOULD BE FOR YOU TO SHOW ME AND EVERYONE HOW MANY AG ZONED PROPERTIES THERE ARE, WHAT THE AVERAGE ACREAGE IS, WHAT'S WHAT ARE THE ADJACENCIES.

BECAUSE IF THERE'S LIKE A WHAT IS IT, FIVE ACRE AG BUT IT'S NEXT TO, YOU KNOW, MEDIUM DENSITY THAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A PROBLEM THAN AG AROUND AG AROUND AG FOR ME.

SO WOULD THAT BE TERRIBLY LABOR INTENSIVE FOR YOU TO DO THAT? NO, THAT WOULDN'T THAT WOULDN'T BE THAT DIFFICULT.

WOULD THAT HELP YOU, ADAM, TO KNOW LIKE HOW MANY WE HAVE, WHERE THEY ARE AND WHAT THE ADJACENCIES ARE.

YEAH. I JUST IT'S ALLOWED OR IT'S ALLOWED WITH AN SCP IN A STATE TODAY.

BUT IF A STATE ADJACENCY IS THE LAKE, THEN I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S REALLY A PROBLEM.

AND SETTING A MINIMUM LOT SIZE THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN EXCLUDES EVERYBODY IN THE STATE.

I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M 100% ON BOARD WITH IT.

NO. BUT THEN WE WOULD KNOW THAT WE WOULD HAVE THAT QUESTION ANSWERED.

OKAY, OKAY. YEAH.

BUT YOU COULD ALSO USE THE SUP TO DEFINE WHICH ONES ARE APPROPRIATE AND NOT APPROPRIATE.

SO YOU DON'T GET THEM. REALLY, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SAYING DO WE WANT STAFF TO EVEN MOVE FORWARD TO COME AND BRING US THE DATA.

AND I DO WANT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY. WELL I CAN DEFINITELY WE CAN PULL THAT INFORMATION TOGETHER IN A FAIRLY QUICK AMOUNT OF TIME.

AND SO I'M THINKING I'LL EMAIL THAT TO ALL OF YOU JUST SO YOU HAVE THAT MORE QUICKLY.

AND WE'LL DEFINITELY KEEP THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS KIND OF KEEP TRACK OF POTENTIAL UPDATES TO USES AND TRY TO BRING FORWARD A LARGER ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TOGETHER.

SO IF YOU ALL ARE GOOD WITH THAT, WE'LL KEEP THIS KIND OF ON THE LIST FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE.

THAT'S PERFECT. YES. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH, LEXIN.

[K.3. Capital Projects-Future debt issuances - Discuss and provide feedback on large capital projects and future debt issuances. ]

SO JOHN ZAGURSKI IS GOING TO PRESENT.

AND AS JOHN COMES UP, I JUST WANT TO TEE UP JOHN TO GIVE HIS PRESENTATION.

SO BACK AT THE WORK SESSION BACK IN APRIL, WE HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT SOME OF THESE, THESE LARGER CAPITAL PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE HORIZON FOR THE TOWN AND POTENTIAL APPROACHES THAT WE CAN TAKE WITH IT.

AND, JOHN, WALK YOU THROUGH THE IMPACTS OF SB TWO FROM 2019 IS REALLY FORCED MUNICIPALITIES TO TRY TO SHIFT ITEMS FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO THE DEBT SERVICE FUND, OR MNO FUND, RATHER.

AND SO WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT BROADLY SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO TONIGHT IS JOHN'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH A PRESENTATION.

AND THIS THE ONLY ACTION WE'RE ASKING FROM YOU THIS EVENING IS JUST TO GET SOME CONSENSUS DIRECTION.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY, IF THERE IS A DESIRE TO TAKE CERTAIN ITEMS TO THE PUBLIC, POTENTIALLY FOR A GO BOND PROGRAM ESPECIALLY THIS UPCOMING SPRING, THEN WE NEED TO START THE PROCESS OF PUTTING TOGETHER A BLUE RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE SOONER RATHER THAN LATER.

AND SO JOHN'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.

AND THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME SOME EVOLUTION OF SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THEIR READINESS POTENTIALLY TO GO BEFORE VOTERS.

AND SO HE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THAT.

BUT AGAIN, NO DECISIONS BEING MADE TODAY.

WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR NAMES FOR THE COMMITTEE OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT.

WE'RE REALLY JUST TRYING TO SEE YOUR JUST GENERAL THOUGHTS ON A POTENTIAL TIME FRAME TO TAKE SOMETHING TO THE VOTERS MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO JOHN.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AND TO I LIKE HOW HISTORY SOMETIMES REPEATS ITSELF AND HOW SOME OF THESE THINGS KIND OF LAYER UPON THEMSELVES. AND SO I THINK THIS WAS A NEAT HISTORICAL OVERVIEW, AS ROUGHLY 22 YEARS AGO YOU HAD A GO ELECTION FOR THE COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER AND TWO ADDITIONAL PARKS.

AND SO AGAIN, AND WE'RE COMING TODAY AND THE CAC IS ACTUALLY BACK ON THERE FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS LATER HERE.

AND WE HAVE A FEW THINGS OF PARKS AND TRAILS, THOSE THAT WERE CONSIDERED.

BUT OVERALL, THE BLUE RIBBON COMMITTEE OR BLUE RIBBON OR BOND COMMITTEE IS ONE OF THE FEW WAYS IN OUR STATE LAW THAT WE CAN EVALUATE REQUESTS RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS AND GAUGE PUBLIC SUPPORTS DEBT.

AND HOW DEBT IS HANDLED HAS CHANGED RAPIDLY IN 22 YEARS.

HOW THE STATE SEES IT.

BACK 22 YEARS AGO, YOU COULD GO OUT AND TALK ABOUT YOUR OPINIONS ON THESE ISSUANCES.

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SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

AND SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WANTED TO SEND YOU A MEMO BEFOREHAND, KIND OF WALKING YOU THROUGH WHAT, A BLUE RIBBON PROCESS LOOKS LIKE, BUT ALSO TO GIVE YOU A KIND OF A TIME FRAME OF WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE AND LIKE KIND OF DECISIONS AND WHAT'S KIND OF PUTTING A LITTLE BIT OF PRESSURE ON YOU RIGHT NOW.

SO OVERALL, THIS GOES BACK TO THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN, SPECIFICALLY ADOPTING A LONG RANGE PLAN AND TALKING ABOUT MUNICIPAL FINANCE AND DEBTS, MAINTAINING THE TOWN'S INS RATE FOR FUTURE CAPITAL PROJECTS AND THOSE LIKE KIND THINGS.

SO WHERE ARE WE AT WITH CAPITAL PROJECTS TODAY? ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE, WHY WE SHOULD GO FORWARD WITH A BOND PROGRAM IS IF WE HAVE THE SITE.

AND SO WITH STATION SIX, WE HAVE THE SITE WITH THE CDC EXPANSION, AND WE HAVE THE SITE TRAIL MASTER PLAN.

ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED.

PARKS MASTER PLAN, STREET RECONSTRUCTION, POLICE FACILITY.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SITE WHERE WE ARE NOT CONSIDERING ONE AT THIS TIME AND MAY BE CONSIDERING MULTIPLE OPTIONS.

AND THEN STATION THREE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A SITE EITHER OR FOR A PROJECT SCOPED.

ALL THESE PROJECTS ARE SCOPED BESIDES THE POLICE FACILITY.

AND THEN DOES IT REPRESENT A NEW SERVICE OR CHANGE IN POLICY? SO THE LEGISLATURE OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS HAS REALLY GOTTEN INTO YOU.

ARE YOU ASKING YOUR VOTERS THEIR OPINIONS ON THINGS, SPECIFICALLY NEW THINGS? THINGS, BUT ALSO WHENEVER YOU'RE CHANGING MASSIVE POLICIES IN THE TOWN? SO THEY'VE GOTTEN PRETTY BIG ON THIS, AND YOU'VE ACTUALLY SEEN THIS THROUGH A NUMBER OF KEY BILLS.

AND SO THE SUPER PREEMPTION BILL WAS ONE OF THEM.

SB 2 VOTE FOR PROPERTY TAXES IS HOW THEY'VE LIMITED CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION.

AND WHAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY USE THOSE FOR HAS ALL BEEN TARGETED.

IF YOU NEED TO ASK THE PUBLIC WHEN YOU DO THIS.

AND SO ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT THEY'RE DOING IS SAYING WITH CERTAIN THINGS YOU NEED TO DO THAT.

SO THAT LAST SLIDE I JUST GAVE YOU, DOES THIS REPRESENT A NEW SERVICE OR A CHANGE IN POLICY SHOULD REALLY ACTUALLY BE A DRIVER OF WHETHER IT'S A GO VERSUS A CO. AND SO IN PARTICULAR STATION SIX [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A PROJECT THAT WE HAVE THE LAND FOR.

IT IS WELL SCOPED OUT.

AND DOES IT REPRESENT A NEW SERVICE OR A CHANGE IN POLICY.

NO, IT DOESN'T. IT IS ACTUALLY JUST REPLACING AN EXISTING STATION ON A BETTER PIECE OF LAND.

OTHER PROJECTS THAT PROBABLY AREN'T GOING TO FIT VERY WELL IS THE POLICE FACILITY AND STATION THREE.

THOSE SHOULD PROBABLY ACTUALLY ALSO BE SEARS AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY DON'T REPRESENT NEW SERVICE.

YOU CAN ALWAYS ASK THE VOTERS, BUT DO YOU HAVE TO IS THE LEGISLATION PUSHING YOU THAT WAY? I REALLY DON'T FEEL IT IS.

FOR THINGS LIKE THE CAC EXPANSION OR PARKS.

YES. STREETS ARE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE TO BE A GO PROGRAM, BUT IT IS A CHANGE IN POLICY.

SO THAT IS A GOOD WAY TO LIKE GET VOTERS INPUT ON WHETHER THEY FEEL THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT.

SO A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS HAVE COME ON, BECAUSE THIS LONG TERM FINANCIAL SHIFT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE, SPECIFICALLY OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE COSTS, MOVING THOSE TO DEDICATED SALES TAX FUNDS AND UTILIZING THOSE TO OFFSET COSTS, WHICH WOULD NORMALLY BE BORNE BY PROPERTY TAX, TO PUT IT ONTO SALES TAX, WHICH FREES UP CAPITAL EXPENDITURES, THEN TO GO TO OUR CAPITAL PROJECTS FUND, WHERE WE'VE BEEN PRIMARILY FUNDING WITH CASH.

WE NEED TO LOOK AT USING DEBT INSTRUMENTS MOVING FORWARD.

AND SO THIS IS A GOOD JUST PROCESS FLOW CHART TO SHOW HOW ONE TRICKLES INTO THE OTHER.

SO, IF YOU LOOK BACK ON ALL OF THESE PROJECTS, THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN, THE PARK MASTER PLAN AND THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION, THAT'S ALL A PART OF THAT SHIFT TO FREE UP SALES TAX DOLLARS FOR OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE, WHICH PROVIDES PROPERTY TAX RELIEF.

SO WHEN IT CAME TO STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS ON WHETHER WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD WITH A GO OR CO FOR STATION SIX, WE FEEL THAT A CO IS ACTUALLY A BETTER FIT.

AND THIS IS JUST BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING NEW.

YOU CAN ASK THE VOTERS FOR IT.

BUT IN REALITY IT DOESN'T REPRESENT SUCH A POLICY SHIFT OR SOMETHING BRAND NEW THAT IT'S NOT A NEW SERVICE.

YOU'RE NOT INCREASING SERVICE LEVELS BY DOING IT.

AND SO, WE FEEL THAT STATION SIX CAN BE A CO.

AND THE REAL REASON ALSO THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING IT THIS WAY IS SO THAT WE CAN NARROW THIS FOCUS IF WE DO A 2025 BOND PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN BE REAL SPECIFIC, WHAT WE'RE ASKING. THE CAC EXPANSION TRAIL MASTER PLAN AND PARKS MASTER PLAN PROBABLY SHOULD BE BUNDLED TOGETHER BECAUSE THEY ALL FALL WITHIN KIND OF THAT SAME USE AND PARAMETER, AND IT INCREASES, ACTUALLY, THE LIKELIHOOD OF MORE CITIZENS INPUT ON EACH ONE OF THOSE THINGS BECAUSE IT TOUCHES MORE PEOPLE.

SO, SOMEONE WHO MIGHT NOT BE FOR THE EXPANSION MIGHT ACTUALLY BE IN FAVOR OF A PARKS PROJECT OR A TRAILS PROJECT.

AND THIS IS SO THAT YOU'RE MAKING SURE THAT IF YOU'RE ASKING THE VOTERS FOR SOMETHING, THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN THERE THAT ACTUALLY IMPACTS THEM, THAT WOULD BE OF VALUE TO THEM. THE OTHER TWO PROJECTS WERE JUST NOT FAR ENOUGH IN SCOPE BECAUSE OF LAND ACQUISITION, THAT WE FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD GO INTO THIS GO PROGRAM.

SO, WE'RE KIND OF RECOMMENDING THAT THESE TWO PROJECTS ACTUALLY BE HELD UP FOR ANOTHER YEAR SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH THE LAND ACQUISITION PHASE WITH THEM, IDENTIFY THAT, AND

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AND SO, THAT'S WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU LIKE, ASK THE VOTERS FOR SOMETHING AND HAVE TO COME BACK A COUPLE OF YEARS LATER AND SAY, ACTUALLY, IT'S GOING TO BE MORE NOW.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'VE ACTUALLY PUSHED THOSE TWO LAST TWO PROJECTS OFF.

SO, WHAT'S REALLY DRIVING THIS? SO, IF YOU REMEMBER FROM OUR MEMO, OH, THAT'S THE BLUE-RIBBON PANEL OR THE BLUE-RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE IF WE NEED TO GO OUT FOR ELECTION IN MAY AND SHE HIT THAT MAY DEADLINE, YOU HAVE TO CALL FOR THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER OR SORRY, YOU HEAR THE CALL FOR THE ELECTION IN FEBRUARY AND THEN BACKTRACK.

THAT WOULD ONLY GIVE YOU ONE MONTH FROM BASICALLY THE PRESENTATION OF THE BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE.

STEP FIVE IN THE RECOMMENDATION PHASE TO ACTUALLY BRING TO YOU.

SO, WHAT'S REALLY CUTTING DOWN ON YOUR TIME RIGHT NOW IS THE LONGER WE DELAY THIS, THE LESS TIME YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE WITH BEFORE YOU WITH THESE ITEMS, BEFORE IT NEEDS TO GO OUT TO THE VOTERS, OR YOU'D HAVE TO CALL FOR AN ELECTION.

SO REALISTICALLY, THE QUESTION THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASK TODAY IS MAY OR NOVEMBER, IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD IN EITHER OF THESE PROGRAMS, AND WHICH ONE OF THESE DATES ARE YOU TRYING TO HIT, WHICH ONE DO YOU NEED SO THAT YOU HAVE THE PROPER TIME TO FOCUS? BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT IS YOU TO FEEL PRESSURED IN ANY WAY TO, HEY, YOU DON'T GET AS MUCH TIME TO ACTUALLY REVIEW OR ASK QUESTIONS OF THIS.

OVERALL, THE BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE FOLLOWS SEVEN PHASES.

YOU ESTABLISH THE COMMITTEE, YOU ORIENT THEM.

THAT TAKES ABOUT A MONTH DEPENDING ON HOW AND WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.

THE LISTENING PHASE IS THE LONGEST PART OF IT, AND THAT IS A LOT OF PUBLIC MEETINGS AND INPUT AND ENGAGEMENTS.

THE LAST ONE HAD OVER FOUR DIFFERENT WHAT THEY CALL TOWN HALL MEETINGS, MEETINGS DURING THAT TIME THEY ALSO HAD OPEN EMAILS, THEY HAD FORUMS, THEY WERE PUTTING OUT INFORMATION IN THE NEWSLETTER. THERE WERE SUBMITTING SURVEYS DURING THAT TIME.

THEY WERE GETTING AS MUCH PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON WHAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED IN THAT BOND PROGRAM AND WHAT SHOULDN'T BE TO EVALUATE THAT PROCESS.

AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THE LONGEST ONE, AND IT'S ONE PLACE THAT YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO CUT DOWN, BECAUSE THAT'S ONE OF THE PRIMARY RESOURCES THAT COMES FROM THIS.

AND SO NEXT COMES THE RECOMMENDATION PHASE WHERE THEY COME AND PRESENT THEIR FINDINGS.

OR SORRY FOR DELIBERATION PHASE IS WHERE THEY COME BACK.

THEY TAKE IN ALL THAT FEEDBACK.

THEY COLLATE THAT INTO REPORTS.

THEY REFINE WHAT THE ASK WAS AND SAY, THIS IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

THEN THEY BRING THAT TO YOU, THE COUNCIL, AND YOU GET TO WEIGH IN ON IT.

AND THAT'S WHEN YOU BASICALLY CAN NARROW THE SCOPE EVEN MORE AND SAY, YES, NO, THIS MAKES SENSE.

THIS DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

AND SO WHY DID THE PUBLIC SAY THIS? OR YOU CAN ASK A LOT MORE QUESTIONS, KNOWING THAT IT'S GONE THROUGH A PUBLIC VETTING PROCESS BEFOREHAND.

SO, IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE TIME TO ASK.

A LOT OF DID THE PUBLIC ENGAGE ON THIS.

DID THEY NOT? WHAT DID YOU DO HERE? AND SO, IT GIVES YOU A LOT MORE INFORMATION.

LASTLY, CALLING FOR THE ELECTION.

WE HAVE TO DO IT BY SO MANY DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

AND SO, I TRY TO PUT THOSE DATES ON THERE.

AND THEN LASTLY THE ELECTION SWEARING COUNCIL.

THIS IS ALL A PART OF THE BUDGET PROCESS.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD OUR BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, AND I'M TRYING TO START HELPING YOU TO MAKE PLANS SO THAT WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THESE PROJECTS NEXT AND EVERYTHING INTO THE FUTURE.

BUT ALSO, WE WANT YOUR INPUT AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE SHOULD DO MOVING FORWARD.

ANY QUESTIONS? COMMENTS. COMMENTS.

COMMENTS. OKAY, SO IN GENERAL, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ASKED WAS MAYOR NOVEMBER AND I PERSONALLY WOULD PREFER TO AVOID NOVEMBER IF AT ALL POSSIBLE BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO INCUR EXTRA COSTS OF THAT.

SO, IF WE CAN, IF IT MAKES SENSE AND IF WE DO DECIDE TO GO FORWARD, I MOST LIKELY PREFER MAY, UNLESS THERE'S SOME OTHER VASTLY COMPELLING REASON TO INCUR THAT COST IN NOVEMBER.

I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE, AND I THINK WE WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS TO ENGAGE.

WE'VE INVITED THEM MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE TIMES.

AND I THINK FOR THESE ITEMS, IT WOULD BE ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A STRUCTURE THROUGH WHICH THEY CAN COMMUNICATE, GATHER THEIR THOUGHTS, AND THEN HAVE THIS COMMITTEE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS. I DID WANT TO ASK A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THIS SLIDE.

WELL, GO BACK A COUPLE.

SO, THAT ONE STARTING.

SO, THE POLICE FACILITY HAD THREE NOS.

AND YET ON THE NEXT SLIDE 675 IT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR A GO.

SO NORMALLY DID THE THREE NO'S WOULD SAY IT COULD BE A CO, BUT THIS WASN'T.

SO YES, THAT'S ACTUALLY AN ERROR ON MY PART.

OKAY. SORRY. OVER.

I ACTUALLY MEANT TO PUT THIS IN THE CO OKAY.

IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE SIZE AND SCOPE AND WHAT YOU DO.

SO, IF YOU GO AND ADD SERVICES TO THIS IT COULD SWITCH OVER TO GO.

SO, IF YOU WANTED TO ADD A SPECIAL POLICE SERVICE OR SOMETHING LIKE IT COULD BE SWITCH OVER.

BUT I'M MEANT TO ACTUALLY MOVE THIS OVER INTO SORRY.

NO, NO IT'S GOOD.

GOOD CATCH. OKAY.

THE ONE THING I'M SORRY.

I'M SORRY. MAYOR PRO TEM, THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD TO THAT IS THAT IN THEORY, YOU COULD USE A CO, BUT OFTENTIMES THERE'S A LITTLE DISCRETION GIVEN THE PRICE TAG OF IT.

AND THAT'S THE THING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO TO GET A HANDLE ON.

THE PRICE TAG MIGHT BE AT A PRICE WHERE THE COUNCIL ONLY FEELS COMFORTABLE THAT THE VOTERS OPINE ON IT, EVEN THOUGH YOU LEGALLY COULD, IN THEORY, ISSUE A CO ON IT.

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AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON WHY WE WANT TO VET IT, BECAUSE IT MIGHT BE AT A DOLLAR AMOUNT WHERE I WOULD EVEN RECOMMEND IT PROBABLY IS BEST THAT THE VOTERS VOTE ON IT.

SO YES, YOU COULD ISSUE CO ON IT, BUT I THINK AT A CERTAIN POINT Y'ALL HAVE TO MAKE THE POLICY DECISION THAT WE FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THE VOTERS OPINE ON THE ON THIS PARTICULAR ITEM BECAUSE OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

SO, MY LAST POINT ON THIS IS THE TIMING, AND IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE WOULD BE A GOOD AMOUNT OF STAFF TIME, PUBLIC TIME, COUNCIL TIME IN 2020 IN PREPARATION FOR 2025.

AND TO REPEAT ALL OF THAT AGAIN FOR 2026.

WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S A LIKELY A CO UNLESS IT EXCEEDS.

SO, WE MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE ANOTHER BLUE RIBBON.

BUT I GUESS IF WE COULD HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL AND SAY THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO, I WOULD WANT TO PUT THEM TOGETHER RATHER THAN REPEATING THAT ALL AGAIN.

NO, ABSOLUTELY.

BUT YEAH, THIS, THIS PROJECT, THE BIGGEST THING IS GOING TO BE WHETHER YOU USE YOUR EXISTING SITE OR WHETHER YOU GO AND TRY TO FIND AN OFFSITE FACILITY.

AND SO, THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN GO INTO THIS.

AND WHEN WE STARTED GOING THROUGH AND ASKING QUESTIONS OF IT, THERE'S A LOT OF WAY THAT YOU COULD PIECEMEAL THIS TO A POINT WHERE WE PROBABLY WANT TO LOOK AT AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT TO HELP US KIND OF FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST VALUE ADD BECAUSE IT AFFECTS SERVICES, WHAT'S THE FUTURE OF SERVICES AND ALL OF THAT.

AND SO THAT PLUS SITE ACQUISITION COST AND ALL OF THAT, WHERE THE PLACES WHERE THIS WOULD GO, WE THOUGHT THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW IF WE WOULD HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO SCOPE THIS FULLY TO GET IT OUT ONTO THE PROGRAM AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR, AND THERE MAY ACTUALLY BE ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE TO PAY FOR IT. YES. DID OTHER PLANS IN TOWN CHANGE? AND WE HAVE THAT ABILITY TO CHANGE THAT IF WE SO CHOOSE.

WE MAY NOT NEED A CO OR A GO.

ABSOLUTELY. AND SO, THE ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD TO THAT TOO IS AS WE PROGRESS AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU, IT'D BE GREAT TO PACKAGE EVERYTHING TOGETHER.

BUT THE ONE THING I DON'T WANT TO DO, THIS IS A COMMUNITY THAT WE HADN'T HAD ONE OF THESE IN OVER 20 YEARS, AND THE ONE THING I DON'T WANT IS TO BRING A QUOTE UNQUOTE SQUISHY PROJECT, IF YOU ASK ME QUESTIONS.

OH, MAYBE IF THIS MAYBE IF THAT.

I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S READY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M WORKING WITH CHIEF CULLEN ON IS THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S JUST GOT HERE.

I DEFINITELY WANT HIS OPINION AND PERSPECTIVE ON SOME THINGS.

AND SO, THE CLOSER WE LOOKED AT IT AND WORKING WITH JOHN, WE I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PUTTING SOMETHING BEFORE THE VOTERS.

I JUST DON'T WANT JUST KIND OF A PLACEHOLDER NUMBER.

AND WE'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON WHAT IT IS.

WE REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS THE BOND COMMITTEE, WITH TANGIBLE CONCEPT OF WHAT THEY WILL RECEIVE FOR THE DOLLAR AMOUNT PROVIDED, AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT WITH THAT PARTICULAR FACILITY.

SO THAT IS ONE THING THAT YOU'RE VERY RIGHT, THAT YOU'RE CONCEDING IS THE POTENTIAL OF HOW DOES THE BLUE, THE BOND COMMITTEE FIT INTO THIS COMPONENT? IF WE STAGGERED A YEAR OR TWO BEFORE WE BROUGHT IT BACK BEFORE THE GROUP.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK AT.

AND MAYBE WE'RE IN A POSITION WHERE MAYBE IT'S NOT ON THE BOND, BUT MAYBE WE GET ENOUGH DATA.

TO A CERTAIN POINT, WE CAN STILL TAKE IT TO THE BOND COMMITTEE, START GETTING THEIR OPINIONS AND START REFINING IT AND HAVE IT READY AT A LATER DATE.

SO, THERE'S JUST A LOT OF DIFFERENT.

HAAS WITH THIS PARTICULAR ITEM THAT WE CAN GO DOWN.

AND QUITE FRANKLY, A LOT OF THOSE PATHS CAN HAVE DIRECT.

THEY HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON THE FINAL PRICE TAG, AND I THINK THAT'S THE KEY COMPONENT OF IT.

IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING EFFECTIVE THAT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY, AND WE CAN DO IT AT A LOWER PRICE POINT, LET'S DO THAT AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO FOCUS ON, AS OPPOSED TO JUST SAYING CITY X IS BUILDING THIS FACILITY FOR X, AND SO WE'RE GOING TO DO IT TOO.

AND I THINK WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE WE'RE JUST TRYING TO VET ALL THOSE OPTIONS.

AND I APPRECIATE THE DESIRE FOR THE SPECIFICITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

JOHN, IS A BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE REQUIRED? FOR A GO BOND PROGRAM? NO, IT IS NOT. SO, YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.

YOU CAN GO OUT. OUT WITHOUT A BOMB COMMITTEE.

THE BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE IS THE ONE OF THE FEW WAYS TO BASICALLY GARNER PUBLIC INPUT PRIOR TO ESTABLISHING ONE.

SO, IT IS NOT A REQUIREMENT OF LAW.

IT'S MORE OF AN EDUCATIONAL PHASE FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO, WE PUT A TENNIS CENTER ON THE GO ELECTION, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

I KIND OF FEEL LIKE THE CAC IS FOLLOWING THAT PATH, LIKE IT'S GETTING ITS DUE DILIGENCE THROUGH OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

AND IS THERE A NEED FOR THE CAC TO THEN ALSO GO THROUGH A BLUE-RIBBON COMMISSION PROCESS AS WELL? NEED, I DON'T KNOW.

SO, YOU, BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE THIS IN A VERY LONG TIME.

IF YOU JUST HAD A GO ON ELECTION, YOU'RE RIGHT IN THE TENNIS CENTER DID NOT PASS, AND PART OF THAT COULD HAVE BEEN BECAUSE OF A LACK OF, LIKE, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AROUND IT OR JUST EVEN IN THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.

PART OF THIS IS AN EDUCATIONAL PROCESS WHERE IT SO IT'S NOT REQUIRED, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IT ABSOLUTELY DOESN'T, YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH IT WITHOUT IT.

IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A MUCH BETTER WAY TO GET MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

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AND SO, THE STATE LEGISLATURE STOPS YOU GUYS FROM BEING ABLE TO DO THAT.

BUT A BLUE-RIBBON COMMITTEE CAN CONTINUE TALKING ABOUT THIS AND RAISING AWARENESS POST CALLING FOR AN ELECTION.

OKAY. I JUST CANNOT DO IT WITH OUR DOLLARS.

YEAH, AND THE ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD IS THAT IN A COUPLE OF COMMUNITIES I'VE BEEN IN, I'VE BEEN IN PART OF MAJOR BOND PROGRAMS. AND THAT'S THE GENERAL IDEA, IS THAT IF THE CONSENSUS OF THAT BOND COMMITTEE IS BEHIND THAT GROUP AND A LOT OF CASES, WHAT THEY WILL DO AFTER THEIR WORK IS DONE ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN, THEY'LL FORM A 501(C)(3) PAC AND START THE PUBLIC EDUCATION.

SOME OF THOSE SAME MEMBERS.

IT'S NOT ALWAYS UNIVERSAL TO DO THAT NECESSARILY.

AND SOMETIMES YOU GET SOME MEMBERS THAT DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

AND THERE'S OTHERS WHO FEEL THAT THEY'RE IN THAT MOLD OF THAT.

BUT THE ONE THING THAT I'LL JUST ADD GOING BACK TO DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM SCHIESTEL THOUGHTS IS THAT THE CAC IS IN A UNIQUE POSITION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S VERY, WELL VETTED, VERY WELL ANALYZED.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO IT FOR THAT ITEM.

WE COULD CARVE THAT OUT.

BUT I WOULD SAY THE BEST VALUE OF THAT BOND COMMITTEE FOR YOU ALL AS, AS A BODY, IS THAT IT JUST CREATES ANOTHER LAYER OF VETTING BEFORE IT ULTIMATELY COMES TO YOU. AND HOW YOU SET THAT BOARD UP, THEY CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS AND START DIGGING INTO IT IN A MANNER THAT WHEN IT COMES TO YOU, YOU'LL STILL VET IT, BUT YOU HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL LAYER. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A BELT AND SUSPENDERS, IF YOU WILL.

INSTEAD OF PUTTING THE ONUS ON YOU AS A BODY, YOU HAVE THAT BODY BEFORE YOU THAT'S REALLY VETTING IT.

AND KIND OF AND THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT, IT PUTS IT THROUGH ITS RIGOR.

SO, YOU GET AS CLOSE TO A REFINED FINAL PRODUCT BEFORE YOU TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.

SO, IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND WE FEEL THAT THE CAC IN PARTICULAR IS BUTTONED UP BECAUSE OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE, WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE A SCENARIO WHERE THE BOND COMMITTEE COULD LOOK AT OTHER ASPECTS OF IT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I'LL FOLLOW YOUR DIRECTION ON THAT.

BUT I THINK THE BOND COMMITTEE IS JUST A IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE THE PERSPECTIVES THAT ARE THERE, AND SOMETIMES SOMEBODY IS LOOKING AT AN ANGLE THAT NOBODY ELSE HAS LOOKED AT IT BEFORE AND BRING UP SOME VERY VALID POINTS.

SO, IT'S JUST A GOOD PARTICIPATORY MODEL OF GETTING FOLKS INVOLVED.

LIKE I'M PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROCESS THE CAC HAS FOLLOWED WITH THE BOND COMMITTEE AND WITH THESE TWO ITEMS, IN PARTICULAR, THE TRAIL MASTER PLAN AND THE PARKS MASTER PLAN.

YOU MENTIONED SQUISHY.

THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT COULD GROW PRETTY EXTRAORDINARILY AS EVERYONE COMES IN SAYING, I WANT THIS FOR MY PARK AND THAT FOR MY PARK.

AND I REALLY WANT IF WE HAVE A BOND COMMITTEE, I WANT THEM TO HAVE TO MAKE HARD DECISIONS LIKE, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO CUT? NOT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO ADD? SO, IF WE CAME IN WITH, YOU KNOW, A VERY STRICT LIKE, THIS IS AS MUCH AS WE'RE GOING TO SEND TO THE VOTERS, NOT ONE PENNY MORE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHICH HOW TO GET ALL THIS STUFF INTO THIS LITTLE CONTAINER.

AND THAT'S A GREAT USE FOR A BOND.

BUT IF THE BOND COMMITTEE IS, YOU KNOW, HERE COMES THE CHECK.

LET'S FIGURE OUT WHAT WE WANT TO ADD TO THE WISH LIST.

AND THAT'S WE DON'T NEED A COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

NO. YOU CAN SET MARCHING ORDERS, AND SPECIFICALLY, THESE ARE THINGS THAT YOU WANT THEM TO GO AND VET AGAINST, AND SO, LIKE YOU GUYS DO TEST THEM OUT.

AND SO, YOU COULD SET A DOLLAR AND NOT TO EXCEED.

I'VE NOT SEEN IT DONE. BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING TO KEEP THIS FROM GETTING BLOATED AND THEN IT COMES TO COUNCIL.

AND WE WERE PLANNING ON A DINGHY, AND WE GOT A BATTLESHIP.

HOW WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO. SO NOW WE HAVE TO GO AND MAKE ALL THE HARD DECISIONS.

AND WE DIDN'T NEED A COMMITTEE FOR THAT.

WE COULD HAVE JUST DONE THAT OURSELVES.

SO, IF THERE'S A WAY TO STRUCTURE IT WHERE THEY'RE REALLY DOING THE VETTING AND MAKING THE HARD DECISIONS AND GIVING US SOMETHING THAT IS MORE READY FOR THE VOTERS, I'M.

YEAH, I WOULD LOVE THAT.

THAT'D BE GREAT. THE TOWN COUNCIL DESIGNATES THIS COMMITTEE.

YES, I DO SO WELL AND I THINK TO ADAM'S POINT, I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVING THEM SPECIFIC DIRECTIONS.

HERE'S WHAT WE WANT YOU TO DO.

HERE'S WHAT WE WANT TO EVALUATE AND LOOK AT.

FOR ME, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO HAVE A HARD DOLLAR LIMIT, BUT SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN? PRIORITIZE THAT.

WHAT'S IT GOING TO COST AND BRING US OPTIONS.

HERE'S OUR RECOMMENDATION.

MAYBE AS A PROCESS EVOLVES, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY HONE THAT DOWN TO, YOU KNOW, HERE'S OUR TOP TIER PROJECTS AND HERE'S OUR TOP TIER PRIORITIES.

AND THAT'S GOING TO COST X NUMBER OF DOLLARS.

IF WE AS A COUNCIL WANT TO DO MORE.

IT'S GOING TO COST MORE. BUT HERE'S THAT NEXT SWATH OF PROJECTS.

SO, I THINK I'D BE MORE OPEN TO THAT TYPE OF A, OF A ARRANGEMENT INSTEAD OF JUST A HARD DOLLAR AMOUNT, BECAUSE MY CRYSTAL BALL IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THAT DOLLAR AMOUNT OUGHT TO BE. AND TO ME, THAT'S WHERE WE GET VALUE FROM THEM DOING THAT DEEP DIVE AND THAT RESEARCH LIKE A STACK RANKING.

AND THEN WE SAY THE TOP FIVE OR THE FIVE THAT WE'RE GOING TO GO AND WE'RE GOING TO CUT EVERYTHING BELOW FIVE.

AND SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT IS THAT I DON'T EVEN KNOW A NUMBER.

I MEAN, JUST, YOU KNOW, BRING US A LIST OF PROJECTS AND THEN WE CAN EVALUATE, DO WE WANT TO SPEND A MILLION, 10 MILLION, $100 MILLION, NOT 100.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THAT NUMBER THAT WE'RE GOING TO SPEND AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET FOR THAT? AND BY THEM DOING THAT DILIGENCE, THAT DEEP DIVE AND THE RESEARCH, TALKING TO THE PARKS BOARD, TALKING TO THE TO THE STAFF, TALKING TO OUR RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GOING TO

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BUT I SEE A LOT OF VALUE TO THEM IN DOING THAT TYPE OF WORK.

LIKE ANOTHER GOOD OPTION HERE IS ACTUALLY STREET RECONSTRUCTION PARKS MASTER PLAN.

TRAIL MASTER PLAN.

DO YOU WANT TO FUND FIVE YEARS WORTH OF PROJECTS? THREE YEARS WORTH OF PROJECTS? TWO YEARS? HOW MUCH? BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS ABOUT CREATING, YOU KNOW, SPACE WITH.

IN THE SALES TAX.

SO HOW MUCH ARE YOU WANTING TO OFFLOAD FROM THE GENERAL FUND OVER TO THESE FUNDS? SO MAYBE SOMEONE IN TOWN WHO FACILITATES IT WOULD BE STAFF FACILITATED, RIGHT.

COULD GUIDE THE COMMITTEE THROUGH A MATRIX WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE HIGH VALUE, LOW COST, WOULD HAVE A HIGHER PRIORITY THAN, YOU KNOW, HIGH COST AND LOW VALUE, RIGHT.

SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE SOME KIND OF SCHEMATA TO EVALUATE THESE THINGS.

YEAH. BUT AGAIN, IF WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SIP AND SAYING, HOW MANY YEARS DO WE NEED A COMMITTEE FOR THAT? IT'S. IT'S MORE ABOUT TRYING TO EDUCATE THE, LIKE, EDUCATE THE COMMITTEE SO THEY CAN EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ON WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN ARE YOU ASKING FOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION DOLLARS WHEN YOU HAVE IN THE PAST 20 YEARS? WHY ARE YOU AT LIKE WHAT DOES THIS NUMBER MEAN? DOES THIS MEAN THREE STREETS? DOES THIS MEAN FOR STREETS? WHERE ARE YOU TARGETING THIS? IT'S FOR THEM TO BASICALLY GO IN AND HARDEN THIS DOWN TO A POINT WHERE THEY SAID, THIS MAKES SENSE.

THIS IS A BIG ASK BECAUSE THIS IS A POLICY SHIFT FOR US OF SAYING NORMALLY, WE JUST WHAT CAN WE FIT IN THE SALES TAX.

AND THAT WAS OUR BUDGET AND THAT'S WHAT WE'D DO.

WE'D GO BASICALLY FUND THESE ON HOWEVER YOU COULD GET IT OUT OF THOSE SALES TAX FUNDS.

AND THAT WAS THE LIMITING FACTOR.

NOW WE'RE SAYING LET'S CREATE A POT OF FUNDING SPECIFIC TO THESE PROJECTS.

AND WE WANT TO FUND THESE SPECIFIC ONES.

YEAH. AND YOU'RE RIGHT, TOWN COUNCIL COULD DO THAT.

THIS IS ONE WAY TO GET INPUT ON WHAT GOES INTO THOSE THINGS.

OKAY. THAT MAKES SENSE.

AND I REALLY LIKE THAT PUBLIC INPUT PERSPECTIVE DURING THAT PROCESS BECAUSE I THINK, AS YOU MENTIONED, THAT GIVES THE PUBLIC A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO TO WEIGH IN, GET EDUCATED, UNDERSTAND REALLY WHAT'S GOING ON, WHAT'S THE PROJECTS ARE, WHAT THE COSTS ARE, WHY IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN IF IT'S ON THE CIP.

ALSO, IF IT'S GOING TO LOWER THE TAX BURDEN BY SHIFTING THIS TO, TO DEBT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF BENEFITS.

WHEREAS IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE A COUPLE OF PUBLIC HEARINGS OR MAYBE A FEW DIFFERENT COMMITTEES, THAT'S A VERY LIMITED TIME AND LIMITED TIME AND LIMITED INVOLVEMENT FROM THEM.

YEAH. AND WE SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, NOT EVERYONE HAS A TIME TO ATTEND ALL THESE MEETINGS AND WEIGH IN.

WHEREAS IF BECAUSE IT'S JUST ANOTHER MEETING, ANOTHER PARK BOARD MEETING, ANOTHER MEETING, ANOTHER COUNCIL MEETING, WHEREAS IF THIS IS A DISCRETE THING, THAT IS A PROCESS THAT MULTIPLE TIMES FOR INPUT, I THINK THAT'S HAS A HIGHER CHANCE OF SUCCESS GETTING THE PUBLIC INVOLVED, GETTING THEIR INPUT BEFORE IT COMES TO US.

AND SO, WE JUST HAVE THAT MUCH MORE INFORMATION TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ON WHAT WE WANT TO SEND TO THE VOTERS IN MAY OR NOVEMBER.

IT'S ALSO MORE FOCUS TO THIS, THIS SPECIFIC ISSUE, TO THESE SPECIFIC BONDS.

ALL RIGHT, SO I, OH, GO AHEAD.

NO. GO AHEAD. YOU'RE NOT FINISHED.

SORRY. NO, THE ONLY OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO TALK ABOUT WAS WHAT MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN WAS SAYING WAS THE TIMING YOU KNOW, I.

I AGREE. WE DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP THE POLICE STATION.

HOLD EVERYTHING ELSE UP. WAITING FOR THE POLICE STATION TO GET FIRMED UP.

SO, I GUESS HERE ACTUALLY, CAN YOU GO BACK TO SEVEN? SORRY. SO, YOU KNOW, STATION SIX.

THAT'LL BE A CO. SO THAT WON'T BE PART OF THIS PROCESS.

SO, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE OTHERS, WE ALL HAVE IT IN FOR 2025.

I THINK IT WAS SLIDE FOUR.

YOU HAD THE, YEAH.

HERE WE GO. SO, WE HAVE THE SITE ACQUIRED.

YES. FOR ALL OF THOSE PROJECTS SCOPED ON ALL OF THOSE AND YES FOR THE CHANGE IN POLICY.

AND THIS IS THE MIDDLE FOR THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED AS PART OF THE, THE GO.

SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, IS STAFF OR ARE THESE PROJECTS THAT ARE MATURE ENOUGH STAGE THAT IF WE DECIDE TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE AN UNDUE BURDEN ON STAFF TO HAVE EVERYTHING READY FOR A MAY ELECTION? NO. WE'VE GATHERED PRELIMINARY INFORMATION.

WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS THROUGH THE CIP AND NUMEROUS THINGS OVER THE YEARS.

WE HAVE A GOOD AMOUNT OF DATA.

SO, WHAT THIS DOES IS IT REPRESENTS A LARGE PHILOSOPHICAL CHANGE.

SO, A BIG PART OF THIS IS JUST LIKE RETHINKING HOW WE DO THIS THROUGH THE INSTRUMENT OF DEBT.

AND SO THAT'S BEEN THE BIGGEST SHIFT IS HOW MUCH FUNDING WOULD YOU NEED FOR THIS MANY YEARS.

NOT WHAT IS GOING TO BE THE BUDGET WHICH WAS ALWAYS BEEN THE DRIVER SINCE THEN.

SO, WE HAVE IT.

IT'S JUST GOING TO TAKE A RETOOLING OF THOSE THINGS.

SO, WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION.

IT WILL JUST BE GATHERING THIS AND THEN PRESENTING IT IN A FORMAT TO THAT COMMITTEE THAT BASICALLY MEETS THEIR NEEDS AND THAT THEY CAN VET AGAINST.

OKAY. YEAH. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M IN FAVOR OF NOT KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD AND DO THIS AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.

THESE PROGRAMS AREN'T GOING TO GO AWAY.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE DILIGENT AND NOT RUSHING THE PROCESS EITHER.

SO THAT'S MY COMMENT AND I'LL LET YOU ALL OPINE.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, THE MAY ELECTION, I THINK IS THE GOAL.

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I THINK THOSE VOTERS TEND TO BE MORE INTERESTED AND AWARE OF LOCAL ISSUES.

SO. ALL RIGHT, SO HEAD NODS.

WE'RE GOOD FOR AT LEAST FOUR OF THE 24 TO MAY.

I THINK THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO GET A SENSE FROM YOU ALL IN REGARD TO WITH THE WITH THE BLUE-RIBBON BOND COMMITTEE IS THE MAKEUP, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY IN THE APPROACH TO IT.

YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER ON THE OPTIMAL SIZE OF THE GROUP NECESSARILY.

YOU KNOW, THERE HAVE BEEN IN MUNICIPALITIES WHERE EACH COUNCIL MEMBER SELECTS TWO PEOPLE TO BE ON THE, ON THE COMMITTEE.

AND IN A LOT OF CASES, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR PICKS THE CHAIR OF THE OF THE COMMITTEE.

SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHTS OF THE GROUP ABOUT THE SIZE, BECAUSE REALLY, WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS THAT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE CONSENSUS IS TO EXPLORE THAT MAY DATE.

THEN OUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK TO YOU ON THE 17TH IN TWO WEEKS AND SAYING, ALL RIGHT, WE NEED NAMES, AND WE NEED TO GET GOING.

SO, IT WOULD BE GOOD JUST TO GET A SENSE IF THERE'S ANY THOUGHT PUT INTO THE SIZE, YOU KNOW, TWO REPRESENTATIVES.

EXCUSE ME, TWO REPRESENTATIVES PER EACH COUNCIL MEMBER GETS YOU TO ABOUT 12 MEMBERS.

GOOD DIVERSITY OF THOUGHT AND FOLKS THAT CAN WORK ON ITEMS. IT COULD BE ONE PER I MEAN, THERE'S NO MAGIC NUMBER ON THAT.

SO JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS IF THERE WAS A ANY CONSENSUS OR IDEA TO THE MAKEUP AND THE COMMITTEE AND HOW MANY PARTICIPANTS WOULD BE ON IT.

WELL, HAVING JUST PARTICIPATED IN THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION OR BOARD, I WOULD NOT WANT TO GO HIGHER THAN TWO PER BECAUSE I THINK IT BECOMES VERY UNMANAGEABLE VERY QUICKLY IF YOU HAVE TOO MANY PEOPLE.

BUT I THINK OBVIOUSLY THE PUBLIC SHOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO COME FORWARD AND THEY'LL BE OPEN COMMENT.

IT'LL BE OPEN MEETINGS.

RIGHT? OKAY. SO AS LONG AS WE DON'T LIMIT THAT LEVEL, BUT I THINK THE ACTUAL PEOPLE WE APPOINT SHOULD BE MAYBE TWO EACH.

YEAH. I'M OKAY WITH THAT.

100% AGREE. YEAH.

ALL RIGHT. OKAY.

THANK YOU, [INAUDIBLE]. APPRECIATE IT.

YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH, JOHN.

ALL RIGHT. WE ARE.

THE TIME IS NOW.

I CAN SEE THAT CLOCK.

8:22. THE TIME IS NOW 8:22 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO CLOSED SESSION PURSUANT TO THE TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE, CHAPTER 551, SECTION 071,

[L. CLOSED MEETING ]

OKAY, AT THIS TIME, IT IS 10:26 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN MEETING.

[M. RECONVENE ]

OKAY. FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, I MOVED TO APPOINT TODD BOYACK, PLACE THREE.

RYAN GETTY, PLACE FOUR.

MICHELLE JACKSON, PLACE EIGHT ALTERNATE AND CLAIRE HARRIS PLACE NINE ALTERNATE.

AND WITH THE TERM BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY AND ENDING SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2025, FOR ODD NUMBERED PLACES AND SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2024, FOR EVEN NUMBERED PLACES.

AND WITH THE UNDERSTANDING EACH MEMBER ALSO SERVES ON THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND THE SMART GROWTH COMMISSION.

SECOND. OKAY.

THERESA, DO YOU MIND CALLING THE ROLL? OKAY. THAT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, AND THE TIME IS NOW.

HERE, I HAVE ANOTHER MOTION.

OH, SORRY.

YOU DO, I DO ONE MORE MOTION, MAYOR.

FOR THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, I MOVE TO APPOINT CHUCK FREENY TO PLACE TWO AND JUSTIN DIFILIPPO TO PLACE SIX.

ALTERNATE FOR THE TERMS THAT COINCIDE WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE PLACE NUMBERS.

WE HAVE A SECOND. SECOND.

THERESA, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL? OKAY. THAT ALSO PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE AND THE TIME IS NOW 10:27.

AND WE ARE NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.