Jan 16, 2024 Town Council Archive

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GOOD EVENING. FLOWER MOUND.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES.

CHAPLAIN BRADLEY VINSON, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

PLEASE REMOVE ALL NON-RELIGIOUS HEAD COVERINGS.

SHALL WE PRAY? GOD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME TOGETHER, BOTH AS CITIZENS AND OFFICIALS, TO SHARE IN THIS DECISION-MAKING PROCESS.

WE THANK YOU FOR THE FORUM TO BE ABLE TO SHARE CONCERNS AND IDEAS TO HELP MOVE THIS ALREADY GREAT TOWN FORWARD.

WE ASK THAT ALL THAT IS SAID AND DONE HERE TONIGHT HONORS YOU.

LET THERE BE OPEN MINDS AND CLEAR HEARTS FOR ALL AND COMFORT FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT.

PLEASE BLESS ALL THE FAMILIES REPRESENTED HERE TONIGHT, THE TOWN AT LARGE AND OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.

WE LOVE YOU, GOD, FOR IT IS IN YOUR NAME WE PRAY.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU. CHAPLAIN. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE PLEDGE TO OUR TEXAS FLAG.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

[D. PRESENTATION(S)]

PRESENTING TONIGHT IS JAMIE JOCKO COOPER, OUR SENIOR PROGRAMS MANAGER.

AND SHE HAS A PRESENTATION.

COOL, COOL. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I WANTED TO KICK IT OFF FIRST, IF THAT'S OKAY, MR. JENNINGS. GO AHEAD, SIR. THANK YOU.

WELL, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ON BEHALF OF THE PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, WE'RE SO HONORED AND PROUD TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION.

THE ACCREDITATION FROM THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SENIOR CENTERS, WHICH IS PART OF THE NATIONAL COUNCIL ON AGING, AND I THINK WE'RE LIKE ONE OF ONLY LIKE 300 NATIONWIDE TO RECEIVE THIS.

SO, IT'S QUITE AN HONOR.

WE'RE VERY PROUD. AND I JUST WANT TO THANK JAMIE AND HER TEAM.

I KNOW THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY FOR MULTIPLE YEARS, TO GET THIS DONE.

THEY WE HAD A COMMITTEE I KNOW MADE UP OF SENIORS AND RESIDENTS HERE IN TOWN THAT SHE PULLED ON FOR ADVICE AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND TO REVIEW DIFFERENT THINGS.

SO, THANK YOU TO THEM, AS WELL AS HER TEAM FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT THEY DO.

I KNOW THEY MADE SURE ALL THE I'S WERE DOTTED, THE TS WERE CROSSED THAT THERE WAS, POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THINGS THAT THEY HAD TO REVISIT AND LOOK AT AND AMEND AND MAKE CHANGES TO.

AND IT JUST TOOK A LONG TIME, AND IT WAS A LOT OF WORK, BUT WELL WORTH THE WAIT.

JUST AN AWESOME JOB.

IF YOU IF YOU'RE LISTENING FROM HOME OR YOU'RE HERE FOR 50 OR BETTER, COME BY AND CHECK US OUT.

JAMIE AND HER STAFF WOULD LOVE TO GIVE YOU A TOUR AND TALK ABOUT ALL THE GREAT PROGRAMS, SPECIAL EVENTS, AND DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT THEY DO AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

SO, THANK YOU GUYS FOR GIVING US THE RESOURCES AND THE TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO DO SUCH GREAT STUFF FOR OUR SENIORS.

AND I'M GOING TO I DON'T WANT TO STEAL HER ALL HER THUNDER.

I'LL LET HER. SHE'S GOT A GREAT PRESENTATION.

BUT THANK YOU, JAMIE, TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM FOR ALL YOU GUYS DO TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU. AND I'M SORRY.

THANK YOU, GUYS, FOR LETTING ME COME AND GIVE YOU A PRESENTATION ABOUT ALL THE HARD WORK THAT WE DID TO GET ACCREDITED.

AND I JUST WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE ACHIEVED.

SO, CHUCK MENTIONED THAT WE WERE ACCREDITED THROUGH THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SENIOR CENTERS, WHICH IS THEIR PARENT ORGANIZATION.

THAT'S THE NATIONAL COUNCIL ON AGING.

AND BASICALLY, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SENIOR CENTERS AIDS THE 11,000 SENIOR CENTERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

YOU KNOW, BRINGING THEM RESOURCES, DOING RESEARCH AND JUST KIND OF HELPING MAKE THEM ALL REALLY GOOD FOR OUR SENIORS.

AND THEN THROUGH THEIR ACCREDITATION PROCESS, THEY REALLY TRY AND RAISE THE BAR FOR SENIOR CENTERS NATIONWIDE.

SO, THEY SET NINE STANDARDS OF EXCELLENCE.

AND AS CHUCK MENTIONED, WE WORKED ON THIS FOR A LITTLE UNDER FOUR YEARS.

WE HAD TO STOP AND START A FEW TIMES BECAUSE OF COVID, BUT WE GOT IT DONE.

BUT THESE WERE THE NINE STANDARDS THAT WE WERE MEASURED ON PURPOSE COMMUNITY GOVERNANCE, ADMINISTRATION, HUMAN RESOURCES, PROGRAM PLANNING, EVALUATION, FISCAL MANAGEMENT, RECORDS AND REPORTING, AND FACILITY.

EACH ONE OF THOSE CAME WITH ABOUT 5 OR 10 FORMS THAT I HAD TO DO THAT WE HAD TO DO.

BUT IT WAS REALLY GREAT FOR US BECAUSE WE GOT TO LOOK VERY DEEPLY AT OUR PROGRAM AND ALL OF OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, OUR PROGRAMS THAT WE WERE OFFERING.

YOU KNOW, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE UP TO PAR AND THAT WE WERE ACHIEVING WHAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE.

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AND WE BLEW HER AWAY, QUITE FRANKLY.

SHE PRETTY MUCH WALKED INTO THE BUILDING AND WAS LIKE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT.

YOU'RE GOING TO BE FINE.

BUT IN HER REVIEW, SHE SAID SHE DID GIVE US SOME COMMENDATIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

SHE WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH OUR DEMENTIA FRIENDLY PROGRAMING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN BUILDING OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS SO THAT WE CAN BE A RESOURCE FOR PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA AND ALSO FOR CAREGIVERS OF PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA.

SO, WE'VE EXPANDED A LOT OF PROGRAMS, THINGS LIKE OUR STEPPING STONES PROGRAM.

AND HAVING DEMENTIA LIVE PROGRAMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, JUST TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT DEMENTIA AND WELCOME THEM INTO OUR COMMUNITY.

SHE WAS ALSO REALLY IMPRESSED WITH OUR MULTICULTURAL COMMUNITY.

AGAIN, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE REALLY STRIVED TOWARDS BY OFFERING PROGRAMS FOR EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY.

YOU KNOW, AND CELEBRATING DIFFERENT CULTURES THAT ARE PRESENT IN OUR COMMUNITY AND THEREBY INVITING THEM IN.

OUR #IMSIM PROGRAM, WHERE WE HIGHLIGHT A SIM MEMBER EVERY MONTH AND WE DO A WRITE UP ABOUT THEIR LIFE AND WHY THEY COME TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

SHE WAS REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.

ALSO, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF SELF-DIRECTED PROGRAMS. IF YOU'VE LOOKED AT OUR NEWSLETTER.

WE HAVE, I MEAN, HUNDREDS OF PROGRAMS AND I WOULD SAY AT LEAST HALF OF THOSE ARE NOT RUN BY STAFF, THEY'RE RUN BY VOLUNTEERS, THEY'RE RUN BY SENIORS.

AND, AND SHE REALLY LIKED THAT.

WE GIVE OUR MEMBERS OWNERSHIP OF THE PROGRAM.

IT'S NOT JAMIE'S PROGRAM.

IT'S THEIR PROGRAM.

AND THEN SHE ALSO MENTIONED OUR STRONG SUPPORT SYSTEM, WHICH INCLUDED OUR TOWN COUNCIL, THE PARKS BOARD.

OUR SIMA BOARD, WHICH PROVIDES FUNDS FOR US WHEN WE NEED IT.

IN OUR ADVISORY BOARD.

AND THEN ALSO JUST A LOT OF GREAT SUPPORT FROM THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.

SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THEY HAD AND SOME OF THESE WE'VE ALREADY DONE, THEY WANTED US TO POST OUR BEHAVIOR POLICY ON THE WALL SO THAT IF SOMETHING WERE TO HAPPEN, WE COULD EASILY JUST SHOW IT TO SOMEONE INSTEAD OF THEM HAVING TO GO ONLINE TO LOOK AT IT.

EMERGENCY EGRESS IN ALL ROOMS. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT.

I PUT THAT UP IMMEDIATELY.

SO NOW EVERYONE KNOWS HOW TO EXIT THE BUILDING.

UPDATE UNUSED OUTDOOR SPACE.

WE HAVE SOME OUTDOOR SPACE THAT'S JUST NOT BEING USED.

AND SO, WE'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THAT SPACE AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A WELCOMING PLACE FOR EVERYONE.

THEY RECOMMENDED ADDITIONAL STAFF, ESPECIALLY TO HELP WITH OUR DAY TRIP PROGRAM.

UNLIKE MOST SENIOR CENTERS, WE TAKE SIX-DAY TRIPS AT LEAST A MONTH.

MOST SENIOR CENTERS TAKE 1 OR 2.

AND A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE TAKING TWO BUSSES AND WE ONLY HAVE THREE DRIVERS.

SO THAT'S WHY SHE RECOMMENDED THAT.

AND THEN ALSO JUST HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR THE BUILDING.

WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE OUR FACILITIES DEPARTMENT THAT DOES THIS FOR US, BUT SHE FELT THAT WE SHOULD PROBABLY GET MORE INVOLVED, AND I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD.

SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT AS WELL.

SO, WE WANT TO INVITE ALL OF YOU GUYS TO COME OUT AND CELEBRATE WITH US ON THURSDAY, THIS THURSDAY THE 18TH AT 1:00.

I'M SORRY, AT 11:00, WE'RE HAVING AN ACCREDITATION PARTY.

WE HAVE A BAND COMING.

WE'LL HAVE LUNCH AND CAKE AND A BIG CELEBRATION.

ALSO IN MAY, WE'VE BEEN INVITED TO ATTEND THE NATIONAL COUNCIL ON AGING, AGING AND ACTION CONFERENCE, WHERE WE WILL RECEIVE A PLAQUE FOR OUR ACCREDITATION AND GET RECOGNIZED NATIONALLY AS WELL.

SO, THANK YOU.

AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK EVERYONE THAT CAME HERE TODAY.

WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MEMBERS OF OUR ADVISORY BOARD AND SIMA.

WE HAVE ANNIE AND MARK.

JOHN IS ON STAFF.

HE'S ONE OF OUR PROGRAM DIRECTOR PROGRAM COORDINATORS.

AND THEN WE HAVE MISS ELSIE AND THEN, OF COURSE, TRAVIS, OUR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF PARKS AND RECREATION.

WELL, JAMIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TONIGHT.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO SEIZE ON THIS OPPORTUNITY TO GET A GROUP PHOTO.

YAY! IS THAT COOL? ALL RIGHT, HERE WE GO.

I HAVE A BANNER.

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[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]

ISSUES REGARDING DAILY OPERATIONAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS SHOULD FIRST BE DEALT WITH BY CALLING OUR TOWN HALL AT (972) 874-6000 DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.

IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR ACTING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THIS AGENDA.

TO SPEAK TO TOWN COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THESE GREEN COMMENT FORMS. TONIGHT'S SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES, AND A TONE WILL SOUND WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT AND AGAIN WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS US.

YOUR TOWN COUNCIL.

STARTING US OFF THIS EVENING WILL BE MR. JOE BERNARD.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JOE BERNARD.

I LIVE AT 10605 SUNRISE CIRCLE FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS 76226.

I'D LIKE TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE PAGE IN FRONT OF YOU.

THESE ARE THE CONSENT ITEMS FROM FEBRUARY THE 7TH OF 2022.

THE TOWN COUNCIL AT THE TIME, LED BY YOU, MR. DEREK FRANCE, APPROVED ALL OF THESE AGENDA ITEMS IN THEIR ENTIRETY.

SIMPLY PASS THEM THROUGH.

NUMBER 12 SUNRISE CIRCLE WASTEWATER CONNECTION DESIGN.

CONSIDER APPROVAL FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH JONES AND CARTER FOR THE DESIGN SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE SUNRISE CIRCLE WASTEWATER CONNECTION PROJECT, AND THE AMOUNT OF $40,000 IN AUTHORIZATION FOR THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE SUCH.

EXECUTE SAME ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.

YOU, MR. MAYOR, DID EXECUTE THIS.

THIS WAS $40,000 THAT WE NOW KNOW WAS WASTED.

THIS $40,000 WENT TO FUND THE DESIGNING PROJECT THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU.

TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. IT WAS MADE BY QUIDDITY.

THE BID AND CONTRACT WERE THE NEXT PAGE OVER.

IT WAS APPROXIMATELY A.

IT WAS A DESIGN PROJECT FOR APPROXIMATELY 15 HOMES TO RECEIVE SEWAGE CONNECTION ON SUNRISE CIRCLE.

WE NOW KNOW THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY AGAINST THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND POLICY TO PROVIDE PRIVATE SEWAGE CONNECTIONS.

BUT YOU, MR. MAYOR, APPROVED THIS $40,000.

ASK WHY $40,000 WAS WASTED.

WE BRING MR. DEREK FRANCE, OUR MAYOR, INTO QUESTION.

IN 2017, HE AND HIS WIFE FOUNDED CROSS TIMBERS CONSULTING GROUP, WHERE HE CURRENTLY SERVES AS PRESIDENT AND CEO.

THIS WAS TAKEN DIRECTLY FROM CROSS TIMBERS CONSULTING GROUP'S WEBSITE.

WITH OUR COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH AND EXPERTISE, WE CONNECT OUR CUSTOMERS WITH GOVERNMENT FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES AT THE FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL LEVELS.

$40,000 WASTED.

I AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN HAVE NOW RAISED FURTHER QUESTIONS OF WHAT IS OCCURRING WITHIN OUR TOWN.

WHY WAS $40,000 IN TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND FUNDING WASTED ON A DESIGN PROJECT THAT WAS THAT WENT AGAINST THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND POLICY TO PROVIDE PRIVATE SEWAGE CONNECTIONS? AND WHY DID DEREK FRANCE APPROVE SUCH ON FEBRUARY THE 7TH OF 2022? IS IT TRUE THAT MAYOR DEREK FRANCE DOES NOT ACTUALLY OWN PROPERTY WITHIN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND? WHAT FINANCIAL INTEREST DOES MAYOR DEREK FRANCE HAVE IN OUR TOWN? AND DO ANY OF THESE INTERESTS ALIGN WITH JONES AND CARTER AND OR QUIDDITY? WHO IS ENSURING THAT CROSS TIMBERS CONSULTING, LED BY MAYOR DEREK FRANCE, IS NOT BEING PAID TO CONSULT ON HOW TO RECEIVE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND CONTRACTS AND AWARDS, YOU, SIR, MANAGE A $200 MILLION BUDGET AND INFORM PEOPLE ON HOW TO RECEIVE LOCAL, STATE AND GOVERNMENT CONTRACTING.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS DEREK FRANCE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS OUR MAYOR FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. BERNARD.

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THE PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

POINT OF ORDER.

DOES ANYBODY FROM THE TOWN STAFF OR TOWN COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT ON ANYTHING THAT THEY'VE HEARD THIS EVENING? I WOULD LIKE TO, MAYOR. ONE OF THE THINGS, AS MR. BENARD AND OTHERS HAVE RAISED CONCERNS, WITH SEWAGE CONNECTION AND THE SUNRISE CIRCLE AREA.

THE TOWN HAS PUT TOGETHER A COMPREHENSIVE WEBPAGE, AND I JUST WANT TO POINT THE PUBLIC TO IT.

IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING, WHAT'S TAKING PLACE OUT THERE, THE ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT MISS RENATA ASKED CAN BE FOUND ON OUR WEBSITE.

IF YOU GO TO FLOWERMOUND.COM UNDER THE LIVING SECTION, YOU CAN LOOK AT SUNRISE CIRCLE.

AND WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE LISTING OF EVERY PRESENTATION THAT'S BEEN DONE.

EVERY PUBLIC DISCOURSE GOING BACK TO THE PRESENTATION THAT WE PROVIDED TO THE TOWN COUNCIL ON DECEMBER 4TH.

AND SO, AGAIN, JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE INFORMATION ON THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN LOOKING INTO IT FURTHER.

THANK YOU. MR. CHILDERS.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE ON COUNCIL WISH TO MAKE A STATEMENT OF FACT? I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY ONE THING.

THAT CONSENT ITEM.

THAT CONSENT ITEM THAT MR. BERNARD MENTIONED THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE FIVE MEMBERS OF COUNCIL.

THE MAYOR DID NOT VOTE ON THAT.

HE'S THE ONLY ONE UP HERE WHO DID NOT VOTE ON IT.

SO THAT WAS APPROVED BY US, NOT THE MAYOR.

AND I'M SORRY ABOUT MY MICROPHONE.

THANK YOU. MR. SCHIESTEL? MAY I ASK A QUESTION JUST TO CLARIFY ALSO THAT THAT CONSENT AGENDA ITEM DID NOT EVER CONTEMPLATE THE COST TO PROVIDE THE PRIVATE CONNECTION? THAT'S CORRECT. AT NO POINT DID WE EVER CONTEMPLATE THAT.

THAT WAS FOR AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THAT WAS FOR DESIGN TO BRING THE CONNECTION TO THE BOTTOM CUL-DE-SAC IN THE AREA.

THERE WAS NEVER AT ANY POINT ANYTHING CONTEMPLATED.

WHAT STAFF HAS DONE IS THAT WE, PUT A BID ON THERE TO GET THE COST.

IF A PRIVATE CONNECTION WANTED TO CONNECT TO OUR LINE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANTED TO ASCERTAIN THE PRICE TO IT.

AT NO POINT DID IT EVER CONTEMPLATE, CONTEMPLATE THAT THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND WAS GOING TO MAKE PRIVATE CONNECTIONS TO THE SEWER LINE.

SO, THERE WAS NO CONFLICT, AND THERE WAS NO ISSUE WITH A POLICY THAT, YOU KNOW, WAS OR WASN'T FOLLOWED BECAUSE IT WASN'T AN ISSUE? NO, MA'AM. THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

ANYBODY ELSE? I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS TO SERVE ON COUNCIL OR TO THE MAYOR DO NOT REQUIRE OWNERSHIP, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP WITHIN THE TOWN.

THEY REQUIRE THAT YOU'RE A RESIDENT FOR AT LEAST ONE YEAR OVER 21 YEARS OF AGE AND ARE REGISTERED VOTER.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS REQUIRED FOR YOU TO RUN FOR COUNCIL OR FOR MAYOR.

SECONDLY, UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO THIS ONE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO SIGN AN ANNUAL AUDIT RESPONSE, WHICH WE JUST DID WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THAT ALSO YOU HAVE TO SWEAR BY THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY FINANCIAL INTEREST IN ANY CONTRACT OR ANY ACTIVITY, FINANCIAL ACTIVITY WITHIN THE TOWN.

AND THAT GOES TO EACH ONE OF US AND WE EACH HAVE TO SIGN IT.

THANK YOU, MR. ENGEL.

CAN I ASK A QUESTION OF STAFF? YOU MOST CERTAINLY MAY, SIR.

DOES THE MAYOR OR ANY OTHER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER? I KNOW I DO NOT, BUT ANY OTHER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE MAYOR HAVE ANY DIRECT GUIDANCE TO THE TOWN ON WHICH SUPPLIERS OR WHICH VENDORS ARE SELECTED FOR ANY GIVEN PROJECT.

NO, SIR. WE HAVE A SET POLICY WITH OUR PROCUREMENT PROCESS THAT IS VERY THOROUGH.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PROCUREMENT MANAGER THAT GOES TO THESE PROCESSES AND MAKES SURE THAT THEY STICK TO OUR POLICIES AS WELL AS APPLICABLE FEDERAL AND STATE POLICIES.

THANK YOU. ANY OTHER STATEMENTS OF FACT.

THANK YOU, COUNCIL. AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

ANNOUNCEMENTS FROM THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL BE STARTING WITH MY RIGHT THIS EVENING WITH MR. SCHIESTEL. I DON'T HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, BUT MAYBE WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS.

ADAM, IF WE COULD GET A HANDHELD OR, MAYBE SWITCH SEATS.

IS THAT BETTER? YEAH.

STAND BY ONE, WILL MR. SCHIESTEL SCOOCH OVER? I'LL GO. SO, CONGRATULATIONS TO JAMIE AND ALL THE STAFF.

I LOVE OUR SENIOR CENTER.

IT'S SUCH A VIBRANT, AMAZING PLACE TO BE AND HOPE TO EVEN SPEND MORE TIME THERE.

AND IT'S SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN YOU TURN THE BIG 50, BECAUSE THAT'S THE MAGIC ENTRY AGE.

SO, I HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE PEOPLE THERE.

ALSO, I WANTED TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE FRIENDS OF THE FLOWER MOUND LIBRARY ARE HAVING ONE OF OUR SPECTACULAR WEEKEND BOOK SALES THIS COMING UP.

WEEKEND, FRIDAY FROM FIVE TILL SEVEN IS THE EARLY BIRD SALE, WHICH DOES HAVE $5 ADMISSION FOR REGULAR PEOPLE.

AND ALSO SATURDAY WILL BE 11 TILL 5 AND SUNDAY IS THE CLEARANCE SALE, WHERE YOU GET ONE GROCERY SACK OF BOOKS FOR $5 AND THE SECOND ONE IS FREE.

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THANKS. THANK YOU.

AND WHILE I CERTAINLY HAVE A BIG ANNOUNCEMENT, TOMORROW IS THE LOCAL, ELECTION FILING PERIOD OPEN.

AND SO, I WILL PROUDLY BE HERE AT TOWN HALL TOMORROW MORNING FILING MY PAPERWORK FOR REELECTION AS YOUR MAYOR.

SO, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING MORE OF YOU OUT THERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WE GO THROUGH.

AND I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE TO SERVE OUR COMMUNITY, IN THE CAPACITY AS MAYOR.

WE HAVE A GREAT STRATEGIC PLAN.

I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO WORK WITH COUNCIL ON THAT AND STAFF AS WE CONTINUE TO DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND CONTINUE WITH OUR STRATEGIC PLAN.

ALSO, WE HAVE A GROUP VISITING US THIS EVENING FROM VALLEY CREEK LEADERSHIP ACADEMY.

IT'S A JUNIOR COLLEGE HERE IN TOWN.

THEY'RE HERE TONIGHT TO LEARN ABOUT TOWN COUNCIL AND HOW IT WORKS.

WE ALSO ARE KICKING OFF OUR TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND CITIZENS ACADEMY, LAST WEEK.

AND ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IS TO ATTEND A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING.

AND SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE CITIZENS ACADEMY ARE HERE WITH US TONIGHT.

IF EVERYONE COULD STAND UP, TURN AND WAVE TO EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME.

OKAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAND UP NECESSARILY, BUT.

AND ALL THE ALL THE STUDENTS FROM VALLEY CREEK, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO STAND UP AND WAVE TO THE CAMERAS BEHIND YOU, THERE YOU GO.

LOOK AT THAT. YOUNG FOLKS GETTING INVOLVED IN LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

ISN'T THAT GREAT? YEAH. THAT'S GOOD.

AND THEN I'M NOT SURE IF JAMIE'S STILL HERE.

IF YOU GUYS COULD GET THAT.

THAT 18TH CELEBRATION IS NOT ON MY CALENDAR.

SO, IF YOU COULD GET THAT ON THE TOWN COUNCIL CALENDAR FOR THURSDAY MORNING, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

SO, I KNOW WE WOULD LOVE TO ATTEND AND CELEBRATE AGAIN WITH YOU GUYS.

SO, WITH THAT, I'LL PASS IT ON TO MR. ENGEL. SO, AS THE MAYOR POINTED OUT, HE'S RUNNING FOR REELECTION, AND HE KICKED OFF HIS CAMPAIGN LAST WEEK.

MY POSITION IS ALSO UP FOR ELECTION, BUT DUE TO THE TOWN CHARTER REQUIREMENTS, I CAN'T RUN AGAIN FOR REELECTION.

SO, MY SEAT WILL BE AN OPEN SEAT.

AS HE MENTIONED, FILING SEASON STARTS TOMORROW MORNING AND THE 17TH, AND WE'LL RUN THROUGH FEBRUARY 16TH.

IT WILL BE THE END OF IT, THE END OF THE DAY THERE.

I'VE GOT A LOT INVESTED IN THIS POSITION OVER THE LAST NEARLY SIX YEARS.

AND SO, I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE A PERSON, FILL MY SEAT WHO IS WELL QUALIFIED, KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO, AND, AND DOES, YOU KNOW, DOES A GREAT JOB. AND SO, TO THAT END, I AM GOING TO OFFER, CONSULTATION WITH ANYONE WHO IS CONSIDERED RUNNING FOR TOWN COUNCIL.

AND JUST KIND OF WONDERED, I WONDER WHAT IT'S LIKE, REALLY LIKE.

AND SO, YOU CAN REACH ME AT PLACEFOUR@FLOWERMOUND.COM AND SAY THAT YOU WANT TO MEET WITH ME, AND I WILL BE GLAD TO TALK TO ANYONE WHO IS CONSIDERING DOING THIS JOB.

IT CAN BE A CHALLENGING JOB FROM TIME TO TIME, BUT I'D REALLY LOVE TO HAVE SOMEONE WHO KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO AND WANTS TO LEARN FROM A VOICE OF EXPERIENCE AFTER SIX YEARS.

SO THAT'S IT.

THANK YOU, MR. ENGEL.

MR. TAYLOR. NOTHING NEW.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO THE SENIOR CENTER.

THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU, SIR.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER DREW IS JOINING US REMOTELY THIS EVENING.

I'M NOT SURE IF HE CAN HEAR US OR IF HE HAS ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS, MR. DREW. YEAH, I CAN HEAR YOU.

I'M JUST HAPPY NEW YEAR AND GLAD TO BE BACK FOR 2024.

SO AWESOME. THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE EFFORT TO ATTEND OUR MEETING THIS EVENING.

WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM G.

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

AND WITH THAT I WILL TURN IT OVER TO OUR TOWN MANAGER, MR. CHILDERS. THANK YOU, MAYOR.

I HAVE FIVE QUICK HIT ITEMS FOR YOU HERE THIS EVENING.

I WANT TO START OFF WITH AN INTRODUCTION.

I'M GOING TO ASK SARAH LUXTON TO STAND.

I WANTED TO INTRODUCE YOU, COUNCIL TO SARAH LUXTON.

SHE IS OUR NEW SENIOR MANAGEMENT ANALYST, AS YOU RECALL LAST YEAR.

Y'ALL GAVE ME AUTHORIZATION TO CREATE TWO NEW POSITIONS AS PART OF OUR STRATEGIC SERVICES TEAM.

WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO HAVE SARAH.

SHE'S JOINING US FROM THE CITY OF PLANO, WHERE SHE WAS A SUSTAINABILITY SUPERVISOR.

AND SHE STARTED, WHAT, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, SARAH? AROUND ABOUTS. AND SHE'S ALREADY HITTING THE GROUND RUNNING.

I'M VERY EXCITED. YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF SARAH.

SO, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE HER GIVE A SPEECH TONIGHT, BUT SHE'LL BE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE IN THE NEAR FUTURE TALKING ABOUT THE PROJECTS THAT BOTH SHE AND BLAKE ARE WORKING ON.

BUT THE EARLY RETURNS ARE LOOKING GREAT.

THOSE TWO ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF WORKING WITH OUR DEPARTMENTS AND FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO CREATE MORE EFFICIENCY AND BETTER SERVICE DELIVERY.

AND SO WE'RE JUST VERY HAPPY TO HAVE SARAH ON BOARD.

AND I JUST WANTED TO INTRODUCE HER TO YOU ALL.

SO, THANKS, SARAH. APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE THIS EVENING.

SECOND OF ALL, WE HAVE, A DESIGNATION I THINK IS AWFULLY IMPORTANT.

OUR FLEET DIVISION IS A RECIPIENT OF A DFW CLEAN FLEETS AWARD.

I CAN'T TALK TODAY.

CLEAN FLEETS AWARD.

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AND AS THE NAME IMPLIES, IT, REWARDS FLEET OPERATIONS THAT DO A GOOD JOB OF PROTECTING AIR QUALITY, ENSURING THAT YOUR FLEET IS NOT IDLING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

OUR FLEET GROUP HAS HAD THE BRONZE DESIGNATION FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, BUT THIS YEAR WE GOT WORD THAT WE GOT THE GOLD, CERTIFICATION FOR DFW CLEAN FLEETS.

AND DURING MY TIME IN IRVING, I WAS OVER THE FLEET OPERATIONS.

THIS IS A BIG DEAL.

TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF CONTEXT, I THINK YOU HAVE 52 PARTICIPATING CITIES IN THIS.

ONLY SEVEN, ORGANIZATIONS GOT THE GOLD DESIGNATION, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

SO, WE'RE IN SOME RAREFIED AIR, AND I'LL SAY, AND I'LL ATTRIBUTE THIS FOR TO YOUR LEADERSHIP COUNCIL, BECAUSE SOME OF THE KEY FACTORS THAT ALLOWED US TO GET THE GOLD DESIGNATION IS JUST THE FACT THAT OUR VEHICLE AND EQUIPMENT REPLACEMENT FUND IS VERY HEALTHY, AND WE TURN OVER OUR VEHICLES.

WE DON'T KEEP THEM TOO LONG, WHERE THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING THEIR AIR QUALITY ISSUES AND, AND BEING DOWN AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

BUT THE OTHER PIECE IS THAT LAST BUDGET YEAR, YOU FUNDED A GPS, SYSTEM THAT WE PUT INTO ALL OF OUR VEHICLES.

AND THAT'S A KEY COMPONENT FOR US, BECAUSE THAT GPS SYSTEM ALLOWS US TO MONITOR IDLING OF VEHICLES UNNECESSARILY, AS WELL AS ROUTE OPTIMIZATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS EFFICIENTLY. SO, A LOT OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO DO TO ATTAIN THE GOLD ACCREDITATION IS Y'ALL'S GOOD STEWARDSHIP AND WORKING WITHIN OUR ANNUAL BUDGET PROCESS.

I WANT TO SAY THANKS TO Y'ALL.

AND Y'ALL CERTAINLY PLAYED A BIG PART IN THAT.

SO KUDOS TO BILLY STERNER, WHO IS OUR FLEET MANAGER.

I KNOW HE'S EXCITED ABOUT THAT AND WE HAVE A GREAT FLEET OPERATIONS.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE GOT OUR GOLD CERTIFICATION AND DFW CLEAN FLEETS FOR OUR FLEET DIVISION.

NEXT UP, AS YOU ALL KNOW, DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, YOU APPROVED A, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THERE'S A KEY PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT PIECE THAT'S GOING TO BE KICKING OFF THE WEEK OF JANUARY 29TH THAT WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND PUT OUT THERE.

WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT OUT ON OUR VARIOUS CHANNELS, BE IT THE WEBSITE AS WELL AS OUR SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO IN AND ENGAGE OUR CONSULTANTS AND SHARE THEIR VIEWS ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE IN THE TOWN AND WHAT THE PRIORITIES SHOULD BE, AND SUCH. AND SO ON.

JANUARY 30TH, I DON'T HAVE A CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK THAT IS, BUT ON JANUARY 30TH, FROM 530 TO 7 P.M., AT OUR CENTRAL FIRE STATION IN THE TRAINING ROOM, WE'RE GOING TO HOST THAT SESSION, WHERE FOLKS CAN COME IN AND SHARE THAT INPUT.

AND I KNOW DURING THE COURSE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST THE COUNCIL IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE GET INPUT FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS, INCLUDING OUR RESIDENTS, AND THIS IS A RESPONSE TO THAT.

AND ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC GOALS OR STRATEGIC GOAL NUMBER EIGHT IS COMMUNITY AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

AND THIS IS A PIECE OF THAT.

AND SO AGAIN JUST WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND PUT OUT THERE THAT WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THAT PUBLIC INPUT PIECE FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

AND AGAIN, WE'LL CONTINUE TO PUSH THAT OUT.

YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CONNECT TO IT AND YOU CAN PUSH IT OUT TO YOUR CHANNELS.

BUT WE JUST WANT TO GET THE WORD OUT EARLY THAT THAT ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITY WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

THE FOURTH ONE IS REALLY COOL, AND IT DOESN'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY DO WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT IT'S CONNECTED TO ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES.

THIS EVENING IN BARTONVILLE DURING THEIR COUNCIL MEETING.

TODAY, JANUARY 16TH, 2024, IS CHIEF WENDELL MITCHELL DAY IN BARTONVILLE.

AND FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, WENDELL MITCHELL IS ONE OF OUR ASSISTANT POLICE CHIEFS HERE.

HE WENT OVER IN SEPTEMBER.

WE KIND OF SHOWING LOVE TO OUR NEIGHBOR.

WE LET WENDELL GO, FOR A LITTLE WHILE, TO SERVE AS OUR INTERIM POLICE CHIEF.

AND THAD CHAMBERS, WHO'S THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR OUT THERE, HAS BEEN SINGING HIS PRAISES FOR WEEKS NOW.

HE'S DONE AN AMAZING JOB GOING OUT THERE, HELPING THEM WITH THEIR PROCESSES, CLEANING SOME THINGS UP FOR THE NEXT CHIEF.

AND I KNOW THE MAYOR, TOO, REACHED OUT TO ME AND JUST, HEAPED PRAISE ON ASSISTANT CHIEF MITCHELL AND THE WORK THAT HE'S DONE OUT THERE.

SO, IT'S REALLY COOL DESIGNATION THAT ONE OF OUR OWN HAS A DAY DEDICATED TO HIM IN BARTONVILLE.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO PUBLICLY THANK CHIEF MITCHELL.

AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE CLASSIC WIN WINS FOR THE TOWN AS WELL AS BARTONVILLE.

WE'RE CERTAINLY GLAD TO BE IN A POSITION WE CAN HELP OUT ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BUT FOR WENDELL, IT PROVIDES HIM SOME GREAT EXPERIENCE THAT HELPS HIM OUT IN HIS CAREER PATH AND THAT EXPERIENCE OF OF WORKING AS AN INTERIM CHIEF IN BARTONVILLE.

SO ANYTIME WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS THAT'S MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL AND A WIN-WIN, WE ALWAYS LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT.

SO, SO TODAY IN BARTONVILLE IS WENDELL MITCHELL DAY, SO, SEND HIM A GOOD WORD.

BUT LAST BUT CERTAINLY NOT LEAST, WE HAD SOME WINTER WEATHER THIS WEEKEND, AND, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO CANCEL ANYTHING, WHICH IS GREAT.

MY KIDS WERE DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO MISS SCHOOL TODAY AND EXCUSE ME.

YEAH, I GUESS TODAY IS TUESDAY.

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YOU KNOW, WHEN WHEN THE SNOW FELL ON MONDAY, OUR PUBLIC WORKS CREWS GOT OUT THERE, TREATED IT QUICKLY.

AND IF YOU DROVE OUT ON MONDAY ON THE ROAD, YOU SAW THAT THERE WERE PRETTY MUCH CLEARED OUT.

AND THAT WAS AWFULLY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE IF THAT WASN'T DONE, AS THE TEMPERATURES DROPPED OVERNIGHT, THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ICE AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HAZARDOUS TO DRIVE.

BUT OUR PUBLIC WORKS TEAM CONTINUES TO KNOCK IT OUT OF THE PARK, WHEN IT COMES TO WINTER WEATHER RESPONSE.

AND I THOUGHT IT'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR GREAT WORK TO PUT US IN A POSITION TO BE ABLE TO OPEN UP FULLY TODAY, AS WELL AS HAVE THE MEETING HERE TONIGHT.

OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, OUR EOC, BRANDON BARTH, OUR DEPUTY CHIEF OVER THE EOC ALWAYS DOES A GOOD JOB.

AND I WAS FEELING PRETTY GOOD BECAUSE WE CANCELED OUR MEETING YESTERDAY AFTERNOON BECAUSE WE FELT PRETTY GOOD WITH WHERE WE'RE AT.

BUT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE ALL THE WORK THAT HAPPENS BEHIND THE SCENES IN RESPONSE TO, WINTER WEATHER EVENTS.

AND SO, WE WERE PREPARED, BUT FORTUNATELY, WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE TO HAVE ANY RESPONSE FORMALLY, BUT JUST WANTED TO SHOUT OUT THAT GROUP FOR THE GREAT WORK THAT THEY DO BEHIND THE SCENES TO GET US READY FOR THOSE EVENTS.

SO THOSE ARE MY FIVE ITEMS, MAYOR.

THANK YOU, MR. CHILDERS.

WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS, STARTING WITH, MR. DREW. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? NO ITEMS FOR ME. WELL, THAT WAS QUICK.

MOVING ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS, WE HAVE A JANUARY 18TH WORK SESSION AND, A FEBRUARY 5TH REGULAR MEETING.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

I'LL BE REMOTE FOR THE 18TH.

REMOTE ON THURSDAY AGAIN.

YES, ROGER.

SO, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THAT SET UP FOR OUR WORK SESSION.

MOVING ON TO ITEM J CONSENT.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS J ONE THROUGH TEN AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

CONSENT ITEMS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

MOVING ON TO REGULAR ITEM K ONE.

[K.1. Charter Amendments - Discuss and consider possible Charter amendments.]

LEADING US OFF WITH A STAFF RECAP WILL BE OUR TOWN SECRETARY, MS. THERESA SCOTT. ALSO, I HAVE A NOTE THAT TOMMY WILL BE PARTICIPATING.

JUST FOR COUNCIL'S AWARENESS.

THIS IS FOR DIRECTION ONLY.

ON THE TOPIC OF THE PGP, WE WON'T BE CALLING THE ROLL ON THIS TONIGHT.

OKAY, JUST TO RECAP REALLY QUICK, THE TOPIC OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, AND YOU ALL WERE PROVIDED AN EMAIL WITH A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT YOU HAD TO READ OVER THE HOLIDAYS.

SO, I'M SORRY IF IT WAS OVERWHELMING, BUT WE WANTED TO HAVE YOU ALL TO HAVE THE HISTORY AS IT RELATES TO THAT.

AND THEN TONIGHT IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THAT DISCUSSION.

AND STAFF IS SEEKING COUNCIL DIRECTION AND REGARDING A POSSIBLE PROPOSED AMENDMENT.

AND SOME OF THE TOPICS PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED ARE OPTIONS RATHER WAS ONE TAKE NO ACTION NUMBER TWO IS PRESENT AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD GIVE COUNCIL THE AUTHORITY TO CREATE A PPP WITH A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE OF THE COUNCIL INSTEAD OF AN ELECTION REQUIREMENT.

AND THE THIRD OPTION WAS TO REMOVE THE ELECTION REQUIREMENT OF HAVING GO PPPS ON THE BALLOT.

AND TOMMY IS GOING TO WALK THROUGH THIS PORTION OF THE SLIDE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR DIRECTION.

IF THERE IS SOME CONSENSUS OF COUNCIL TO GO FORWARD IN ANY DIFFERENT DIRECTION.

AND AS I MENTIONED PREVIOUSLY, IF WE DON'T HAVE CONSENSUS, THIS CAN BE DECIDED ALSO ON FEBRUARY 5TH, WHEN IT COMES FORWARD FOR YOU ALL TO CALL THE ELECTION THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A VOTE ON THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC AND THE OTHERS.

I THINK THERE WAS GENERAL CONSENSUS, BUT, IF NEED BE, WE CAN GET TO THAT POINT.

IF THERE ISN'T CONSENSUS, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING THINGS GOING ALONG.

SO, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO TOMMY.

THANK YOU. AND THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS WHAT I HANDED OUT.

AND FOR COUNCIL MEMBER DREW, I SENT THAT TO YOU VIA EMAIL.

IT JUST PROVIDES A LITTLE BIT MORE DESCRIPTION ON THESE EXAMPLES THAT THE COUNCIL REQUESTED THAT WOULDN'T OTHERWISE FIT ONTO THE SCREEN.

I THINK FROM THE IF JUST BY LOOKING AT THE EXAMPLES, THEY'RE FAIRLY WELL KNOWN.

THERE'S NOTHING GROUNDBREAKING IN TERMS OF HOW THESE DEALS WERE PUT TOGETHER.

THE EXAMPLES IN FRISCO, THOSE ARE ALL, I'M GOING TO SAY, STANDARD DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, ALTHOUGH LIKE, SAY FOR THE PGA, YOU KNOW, THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WAS MULTIPLE

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IT WAS IN EXCESS OVER 300 HUNDRED PAGES IN THAT SCENARIO, ALONG WITH THE STAR.

IT'S THE PROVISION THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED IN OUR IN OUR CHARTER, WHERE THE CITY OF FRISCO OWNS THE LAND UNDERNEATH THOSE ASSETS AS WELL AS THE ASSETS, AND THEN LEASES IT BACK IN THE CASE OF THE PGA, THE OMNI HOTEL GROUP, IN CASE OF THE STAR, THE THE THE BLUE STAR COMPANY.

AND AGAIN, ALL THAT'S DETAILED IN THOSE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.

SO AGAIN, NOTHING GROUND GROUNDBREAKING THERE.

IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO TRY TO ANSWER THEM.

BUT AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, WHAT'S REPRESENTED ON SCREEN IS, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL THOUSAND PAGES OF DETAILS INVOLVED IN THOSE AGREEMENTS.

AND I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T MENTION, RAY, PUT ALL THIS INFORMATION TOGETHER.

HE RESEARCHED ALL THESE DIFFERENT PROJECTS AND THEIR DETAILS.

AND I WANTED TO THANK RAY FOR BEING ABLE TO PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR US.

RAY AND MELODY? PROBABLY, YES.

ONE ARM. THANK YOU.

TOMMY. SO AS COUNCIL AS WE DISCUSSED THIS, RIGHT.

THIS WE SEEM TO KIND OF DISCUSS THIS FOR A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WEEKS.

SO, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU TO, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER.

MISSED OPPORTUNITIES WITH SOME OF THE LAND THAT WE HAVE OUT WEST.

AND THAT I DON'T THINK IT'S NECESSARILY PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T THINK WE ALL WANT EVERYTHING DEVELOPED.

I JUST THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ADAM HAD TALKED ABOUT.

YOU KNOW, WANTING TO SORT OF KEEP IT TO WHERE THE VOTERS GET TO VOTE ON IT.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS UP HERE AND WE'RE ELECTED TO MAKE THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS.

SO AS COUNCIL CONTINUES TO DELIBERATE ON THIS, OF COURSE, ONCE AGAIN, I WON'T HAVE A VOTE ON IT.

BUT I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE YOU GUYS TO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER WHAT THE FUTURE LOOKS LIKE FOR SOME OF OUR UNDEVELOPED LAND.

AND, AND IF WE EVER WANTED TO HAVE A FLOWER MOUND OR STADIUM.

IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.

COUNCIL, YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR TOMMY? SO, SOME OF THESE ITEMS ON THIS LIST DID GET VOTER APPROVAL.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE COWBOYS STADIUM WENT TO THE VOTERS IN ARLINGTON.

THE STAR WENT TO THE VOTERS IN FRISCO, ALTHOUGH UNIVERSAL STUDIOS DID NOT, WHICH I THINK SOME RESIDENTS OF FRISCO WOULD PREFER THAT THEY GOT A CHANCE TO VOTE ON THAT ONE. DO YOU KNOW, OR DO WE KNOW WHY SOME ITEMS REQUIRED VOTER APPROVAL AND SOME DID NOT IN THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES? SO, FOR THE TWO THAT YOU MENTIONED, PRIMARILY IT WAS BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THE BOND, I LIKE TO THINK OF IT KIND OF TWO STEPS. THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT TO DO A PARTNERSHIP WAS NOT WHAT WAS ON THE BALLOT.

IT WAS THE AMOUNT OF FUNDS THAT THE VOTERS WERE BEING ASKED TO APPROVE TO BUILD THOSE FACILITIES OR FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC CONTRIBUTION TO IT.

WHY THE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS? I THINK THAT ONE, IF MY MEMORY SERVES, I DON'T HAVE THE PAPER RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

OH, HERE IT IS. I THINK IT'S AROUND 25 MILLION VERSUS LIKE 600 MILLION IN ARLINGTON.

I DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING SPECIFIC AS TO WHY, BUT IF I HAD TO SPECULATE, I'D SAY IT WAS JUST THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THRESHOLDS, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE WAS WITH UNIVERSAL VERSUS THE OTHER.

MR. WATSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ANY CLARIFICATION? THANKS. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE UP HERE TONIGHT.

THE ONE THING ON THE PGA THING, WAS, I'M SORRY, UNIVERSAL STUDIOS IS BECAUSE THAT ONE WAS DONE AS A PRODUCTION INCENTIVE.

THEY ACTUALLY HAD MEASURES THAT THEY HAD TO MEET TO ACTUALLY GET THE FUNDS.

AND SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS THEY DID IT A LOT LIKE OUR NORMAL 380 AGREEMENTS.

AND SO, AND THEN ON THE OTHER ONES, THE DALLAS ONE AND THE IRVING ONE, THOSE, THE PPP DIDN'T TRIP THE VOTER DEAL.

IT WAS THE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED WITH THOSE THAT TRIPPED IT.

AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT WAS THE KALAHARI RESORTS.

AND IN THAT PROJECT, KALAHARI HAS THE CITY OWNED ALL OF THE LAND.

AND THEN THEY BUILD THE RESORT, AND THEY LEASE THE LAND BACK.

AND THAT'S TO HELP TAKE SOME OF THE TAX BURDEN OFF OF THE RESORT UNTIL IT GETS GOING AND MOVING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL.

SO, RAY IN YOUR, SO IN YOUR YEAR AND A HALF HERE. TWO AND A HALF.

TWO AND A HALF. YEAH.

THAT LONG? YEAH.

HOW MANY TIMES HAS THIS COME UP? THE KALAHARI WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS COME UP ON THIS, YOU KNOW, AND WE WORKED WITH THEM FOR A LITTLE WHILE AND MET WITH THEM A COUPLE OF TIMES.

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BUT THIS IS THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT.

THE ONE THAT WAS MORE INTERESTING TO ME WAS THE BRYAN PROJECT, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE HEALTH CARE FACILITY AND WHAT AND THAT'S PART OF SOMETHING THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT FOR A FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO, IN THAT PROCESS, THE TOWN OWNED THE LAND, AND THEN THEY ENTERED INTO A PRIVATE AGREEMENT WITH THE WITH THE ACTUAL DEVELOPER. THEY DEVELOPED THE ACTUAL FACILITY AND THEN THEY LEASED IT BACK TO THE TOWN, BAYLOR SCOTT AND WHITE AND TO A&M.

AND SO THAT IS A SITUATION WHERE IT WAS A MULTIPLE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING TO ACHIEVE A MEDICAL FACILITY THAT WAS NEEDED IN THAT AREA. OKAY.

SOME OF THESE DEALS, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, THE UNIVERSAL STUDIOS, IT'S A PPP, BUT THEY REALLY DIDN'T INVEST THAT MUCH MONEY.

THEY DIDN'T.

I MEAN, WE'VE GOT LARGER 380 AGREEMENTS OUT THERE, FOR LIKE LAKESIDE VILLAGE THEN WHAT THAT UNIVERSAL STUDIOS IS.

BUT. WELL, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT LIKE A GOOD EXAMPLE IS THE DALLAS ZOO AND THE FARMERS MARKET.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THEY'RE OWNED BY THE TOWN IS BECAUSE IT TAKES IT OFF THE TAX ROLLS.

AND SO, THE REAL, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IS TO KEEP IT OFF THE TAX ROLLS AND KEEP IT AS AN AMENITY TO THE CITIZENS.

AND SO, THEREFORE, NOT PUTTING THE BURDEN BACK ON A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION TO RUN WITH THE TAXES ASSOCIATED WITH THAT, BECAUSE THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO CHARGE SIGNIFICANTLY MORE FOR PEOPLE TO ATTEND ON THAT KIND OF STUFF.

DOWNSIDE OF THE TOWN IS OBVIOUSLY YOU DON'T GET THE TAX REVENUE FOR FULL VOTE.

BUT YOU HAVE IT AS AN AMENITY TO THE TOWN.

SO, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE OFFSET IS.

THE CHARTER SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDES.

PUBLIC AMENITIES.

I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

SORRY. I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF I COULD CAPTURE IT.

ALICIA, DO YOU KNOW.

DO YOU HAVE THAT LANGUAGE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU? IT EXCLUDES PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SURE.

JUST PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, IS THAT RIGHT SPECIFICALLY? I DON'T THINK THAT'S.

SORRY, I PULLED IT UP FROM HOME, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.

ADAM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LANGUAGE IN THE CHARTER.

YEAH, TO PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

IT DOESN'T SAY EVERY PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IT HAS A CARVE OUT FOR IT SAYS SOME.

WELL, NO, THERE'S A SPECIFIC EXCLUDED.

I JUST HAVE TO PULL IT UP.

HANG ON. SO, IT'S OTHER THAN FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OR MAINTENANCE OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, RIGHT.

SO, WHAT'S A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT, FOR EXAMPLE, IS THAT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT.

ROADS AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

JUST WATER. JUST INFRASTRUCTURE ONLY.

YEAH. SO, YOU'RE JUST LOOKING AT PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT.

SO, PRIVATE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP FOR ROAD WOULD NOT NEED TO GO TO THE VOTERS.

THAT'S OKAY. SO, IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE IT AND THEN SUBMIT IT TO THE VOTERS.

IF THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT WE WERE INTERESTED IN ATTRACTING, COULD WE APPROVE SOMETHING, SEND IT TO THE VOTERS BEFORE THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT HAS BEEN, WORKED OUT WITH THE PARTNER ON THE ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

SO, YES AND NO.

YOU UNDER YOUR CHARTER LANGUAGE AND UNDER WHAT YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO, ELECTION WISE, YOU COULD SEND AN ELECTION MEASURE TO GAUGE PUBLIC INTEREST ON SOME TYPE OF A PROJECT, YOU KNOW, BUT IT WOULD NOT SATISFY THE REQUIREMENT IN THE CHARTER TO HOLD AN ELECTION FOR A SPECIFIC APPROVED PROJECT.

SO, IF THE VOTERS SAID YES, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF A PROJECT, YOU WOULD THEN HAVE TO GO BACK AND HOLD A SECOND ELECTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIFIC PROJECT.

AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY NOTICED AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS WAS THE BREADTH AND DEPTH OF THE INCENTIVE AS OPPOSED TO THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. AND SO EVEN IF YOU WERE TO PUT SOMETHING AS A SPECULATIVE FORMAT IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD FOR THEM TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE VOTING ON, BECAUSE EACH PROJECT SEEMS TO COME.

EACH ONE OF THESE PROJECTS CAME WITH A VERY DIFFERENT NEED AND ASPECT TO IT THAN WHAT YOU WOULD THINK YOU COULD DO AS A GENERAL STATEMENT.

YEAH, I THINK COUNCIL REALLY SHOULD CONSIDER AT LEAST MAKING IT A SUPERMAJORITY.

YOU KNOW, SO, RAY, IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY, THOUGH, AS THERE WAS ONE PARTICULAR EXAMPLE FOR THE TOWN, I MEAN, ISN'T IT SORT OF LIKE ON THE STREET, RIGHT, THAT IN FLOWER MOUND IT HAS TO GO TO THE BALLOT.

SO, THE NUMBER THAT WE DON'T KNOW DIDN'T COME TO US IS AN UNKNOWN NUMBER.

RIGHT? IT'S JUST THEY ALREADY KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO GO TO THE BALLOT.

IT'S SORT OF IN THE COMMUNITY.

RIGHT. SO, AND THEY'RE NOT EVEN GOING TO ASK US.

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SO, I MEAN YOU COULD BE IN JANUARY AND THAT REQUIRES AN EXTRA FOUR MONTHS TO PUT THAT PROJECT.

THE KALAHARI TEAM MOVED ON TO ALLEN WITHIN A TWO-WEEK PERIOD AFTER WE MET WITH THEM.

SO. WELL, YOU GOT YOU GOT TO NOTIFY YOU GOT TO PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR 90 DAYS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU MISS IT WRONG, YOU COULD BE EIGHT AND NINE MONTHS, RIGHT.

SO, WE LEARNED THAT IN 2012 THIS LANGUAGE WAS ADOPTED BY THE VOTERS BY 74%.

SO, THREE VOTES IN FAVOR OF A VOTER REQUIREMENT FOR EVERY ONE VOTE AGAINST IT.

IT'S NOT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THE VOTERS.

I DON'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD RESCIND IT AS IS.

I'M NOT SURE CHANGING IT TO A SUPERMAJORITY IS GOING TO GET VOTER APPROVAL.

I THINK WHAT COULD GET VOTER APPROVAL WOULD BE TWEAKING THE LANGUAGE TO ALLOW US TO SEND SOMETHING TO THE VOTERS IN ADVANCE OF HAVING THE SPECIFIC PARTNERSHIP WORKED OUT, BUT YOU'VE STILL GOT THE DELAY IN THE ELECTION PROCESS.

BUT WE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE WANT, GET THE VOTERS TO APPROVE IT AND THEN TOO MUCH GOVERNMENT.

WELL, MAYBE IT IS, BUT THE VOTERS ARE NOT GOING TO RESCIND THIS.

I MEAN, THEY APPROVED IT THREE VOTES TO ONE.

I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY SHOULD RESCIND IT.

I WOULDN'T VOTE FOR IT. THAT WAS MORE THAN TEN YEARS AGO, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO GUESS AS TO WHY THEY DID OR DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT, BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE IS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION SOMETIMES ASSOCIATED WITH A CAMPAIGN OF ANY SORT.

AND I THINK THE TIME DELAY IS CRUCIAL THAT WE NEED TO MOVE BEYOND THAT, BECAUSE THAT COMPLETELY TIES ALL OF OUR HANDS.

NOW, IF WE DID MOVE TO THE SUPERMAJORITY OR REMOVING THE LANGUAGE AS IT RELATES TO THE ELECTION, IT DOESN'T GIVE CARTE BLANCHE APPROVAL FOR ANY AND EVERY APP TO COME FORWARD. WE STILL HAVE A PROCESS WITHIN COUNCIL TO ADEQUATELY CONSIDER AND MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION.

SO, IT JUST ACTUALLY EXPEDITES THINGS A LITTLE BIT, AND IT GETS RID OF SOME OF THAT RED TAPE THAT IS SO MUCH, A PROBLEM REALLY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOPIC FOR LATER TONIGHT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD THOSE FOMO CONVOS WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.

AND IF YOU READ THROUGH THE COMMENTS THAT THAT WERE MADE THERE, THERE'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S A MAJOR CONCERN IS THE RED TAPE.

SO, I MEAN, I AGREE, I THINK THAT IF WE MOVE TOWARDS A SUPERMAJORITY VOTE, IT STILL HAS A LOT OF CONTROL BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO GET A SUPERMAJORITY THROUGH US.

BUT AT THE SAME POINT, IT AT LEAST ELIMINATES THE DELAY IN THE PROCESS WHERE WE COULD LOSE OUT ON DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES.

CAN WE GET COUNCIL CONSENT FOR AT LEAST THE SUPERMAJORITY? I AGREE WITH THE SUPERMAJORITY.

I THINK IT STILL PROVIDES THE PROTECTIONS.

AND, YOU KNOW, TO ADAM, TO YOUR POINT, IT'S ALSO GOES TO THE VOTERS FOR THIS CHARTER.

AND IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THEY WANT, THEN IT GETS VOTED DOWN.

BUT. I'M OKAY WITH THE SUPERMAJORITY.

I MEAN, VOTERS IMPOSED THIS ON COUNCIL TEN YEARS AGO BY A 3 TO 1 MARGIN.

AND WE HAVEN'T SENT THEM A SINGLE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP TO VOTE ON, AND NOW WE'RE ASKING THEM TO RESCIND IT.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE MORE FREEDOM.

THE PROCESS DOESN'T. WELL, AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO WAIT THE PRESCRIBED TIME.

SO, THEY HAVE MOVED ON.

YOU KNOW, TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE.

IT REALLY IS. WELL, THE VOTERS ARE GOING TO SAY, YOU'RE YOU.

WE PUT THIS IN PLACE.

YOU DIDN'T GIVE US A CHANCE TO VOTE ON ANYTHING.

NOW YOU WANT TO TAKE IT AWAY AND IT'S GOING TO FAIL.

3 TO 1. THERE WERE NO OPPORTUNITIES.

IT'S NOT THAT WE PREVENTED IT FROM COMING FORWARD.

WELL, IS THAT TRUE? AND, YOU KNOW, 12 YEARS AGO WAS A DIFFERENT TIME.

I THINK A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP COULD BE A VERY VALUABLE TOOL FOR US TO HAVE AS A TOWN TO ATTRACT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, THE TYPE OF AMENITIES THAT WE WANT TO HAVE.

AND BY REMOVING THE VOTER REQUIREMENT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A CARTE BLANCHE OR WE'RE GOING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING, A SUPERMAJORITY IS GOING TO GUARANTEE WE DON'T ACCEPT JUST ANYTHING. IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE ALL AGREE WITH.

AND THAT'S THE TYPE OF THING THAT WE WANT TO COME TO TOWN.

BUT THE WAY IT APPEARS AND THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT IS WITH THIS REQUIREMENT AND THE TIME DELAY, WE'RE NOT EVEN GETTING A CHANCE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT TO HAVE IN THE TOWN.

AND SO I THINK HAVING A SUPERMAJORITY, KIND OF THREADS THAT NEEDLE AND GIVES US THE CONTROL, GIVES THE VOTERS THE CONTROL BY EITHER VOTING UP OR DOWN FOR THIS.

AND THEN THEY ALSO, YOU KNOW, VOTE FOR THE FIVE AND SIX OF US THAT MAKE THESE DECISIONS.

MR. DREW, DO YOU CARE TO WEIGH IN ON SUPERMAJORITY? IS THERE A WAY TO PUT A LIMIT ON WHAT? WHAT WOULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY, AND WHICH WOULD REQUIRE GOING TO THE VOTERS? SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF IT'S AN $80 MILLION PROJECT, IT I THINK IT ABSOLUTELY NEEDS TO GO TO THE VOTERS.

BUT IF IT'S A $2 MILLION PROJECT, MAYBE THAT COULD REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY.

COULD WE WORD IT IN THAT WAY? CAN WE DO A THRESHOLD?

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IT'S NOT A SUPER. BUT IF IT'S MORE THAN TEN, THEN IT'S A SUPER.

SO HOW WOULD THAT WORK? JAMES, I THINK THEORETICALLY THE ANSWER IS YES.

BUT I THINK WHAT WE ALLUDED TO EARLIER IS, IS THAT IF WE DO A PROJECT THAT THAT SCOPE AND SCALE OF 80 MILLION, IT'S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE A GO DEBT ISSUANCE THAT GOES TO THE VOTERS ANYWAY. SO, IN ESSENCE, FOR SOMETHING THAT LARGE, IT'S GOING TO GO TO THE VOTER APPROVAL ANYWAY JUST TO APPROVE THE DEBT TO BE ISSUED ASSOCIATED WITH IT.

HOWEVER, IF THERE WAS A DESIRE FROM A POLICY DIRECTION TO SET A THRESHOLD AT A CERTAIN AMOUNT, I WOULD DEFER TO LEGAL TO SEE IF THERE'S A REASON WHY WE COULD OR COULD NOT DO THAT. BUT I THINK IN MOST CASES, FOR SOMETHING THAT LARGE, IT'S GOING TO INEVITABLY GO TO THE VOTERS BECAUSE OF JUST THE SIZE AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO ISSUE GO DEBT TO PAY FOR IT.

SO, THAT'S A PROTECTION IN AND OF ITSELF, TOO.

IT'S ANOTHER BACKSTOP, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH. SO, ALICIA.

SO, WE'RE LOOKING FOR COUNCIL CONSENT TO MOVE THIS FORWARD TO A SUPERMAJORITY, WHICH WOULD STILL GO ON THE BALLOT TO CHANGE THE CHARTER.

I HEAR THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WANTED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.

TWO THAT DON'T. WE'RE NOT CALLING THE ROLL.

JUST THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS CONSENTING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD.

IS THAT CONSENT? YES, THAT WOULD BE ALL RIGHT.

SO, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT FORWARD TO SUPERMAJORITY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR.

WE'LL BE MOVING TO ITEM K2ZPD 23-0006 AND ITEM NUMBER 3TRP

[ Items K.2. & K.3.]

LEADING US OFF TONIGHT WILL BE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MISS LEXIN MURPHY, DIRECTOR OF OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.

AT SOME POINT, MR. MATT WOODS, OUR DIRECTOR OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES, WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS WE'RE DISCUSSING THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR COUNCIL.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST AS WELL AS A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT REQUEST.

HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GIROUD AND LAKESIDE PARKWAY.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

CAN SEE ALL THE.

FOR THE MOST PART, THE PROPERTY SURROUNDING IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED.

SO, THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS CAMPUS INDUSTRIAL USES WITHIN THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT.

AND THE ZONING IS PD 174 WITH CAMPUS INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT USES.

HERE IS THE CONCEPT SITE PLAN FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE.

YOU CAN SEE THERE'S TWO BUILDINGS.

THEY'D BE OFFICE WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS, EACH ONE AROUND 60,000FT², ONE RUNS 64, ONE A LITTLE BIT UNDER 60.

HERE'S SOME PHOTOS FROM THE SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING NORTHEAST AT THE VACANT PROPERTY WHERE THE PROPOSED USE WOULD GO.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS LAKESIDE PARKWAY TO THE NORTH, AT WHAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED FROM THE LOT THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION. HERE WE ARE, LOOKING WEST AGAIN ACROSS THE LOT.

AND HERE WE ARE LOOKING SOUTHEAST AT THE PROPERTY THAT'S DEVELOPED ON THAT SIDE.

AND THEN ONCE MORE, LOOKING SOUTHEAST TO THE SOUTH OF THE LOT TO SEE WHAT'S ALREADY DEVELOPED THERE.

SO AGAIN, HERE IS THE PROPOSAL.

THE TWO WAREHOUSE BUILDINGS.

THE REQUIRED PARKING WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY 94 SPACES.

WHAT'S BEING PROVIDED IS 111.

THAT IS WITHIN THE 20% DEVIATION.

HERE IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE, THIS IS WITHIN THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT, SO IT REQUIRES A MORE ENHANCED LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG GIRAUD WITH A CURVILINEAR SIDEWALK.

SO, THEY ARE MEETING THOSE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEY'RE GENERALLY MEETING OR EXCEEDING ALL OF THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS FROM THE TOWN.

HERE ARE THE CONCEPTUAL ELEVATIONS.

THE BUILDING WOULD BE PRIMARILY TILT WALL WITH STONE DONE AT THE ENTRANCES.

IT IS MEETING THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINE REQUIREMENTS.

AND THEN THESE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF RENDERINGS THEY DID TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE FROM GROUND LEVEL.

SO JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON WHY THIS PROJECT IS HERE, BECAUSE IT IS AN INDUSTRIAL PROJECT AND AN INDUSTRIAL AREA.

THAT'S MASTER PLAN FOR INDUSTRIAL.

BUT THE REASON IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A PD THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON THIS PROPERTY THAT WAS PRETTY SPECIFIC.

THIS WAS FOR THE OFFICE PARKWAY DEVELOPMENT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

AND SO THIS IS WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED.

IT WAS THE TWO PHASE, PHASE ONE AND TWO OF A BUILDING.

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IT'S GOING TO BE AN OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, QUITE A BIT MORE PARKING THAT WAS REQUIRED FOR THAT USE.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN APPROVED.

IT HAD PRETTY SPECIFIC CONDITIONS DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, ELEVATIONS, ALL THAT, ALL THAT SORT OF THING THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH.

SO THAT'S WHY THEY CAME FORWARD WITH A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT.

THIS IS JUST KIND OF SHOWING YOU THE TWO NEXT TO EACH OTHER OF WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AND THEN WHAT IS PROPOSED TODAY.

AND THESE WERE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ELEVATIONS FOR THE PARKWAY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST GOING ONE STEP FURTHER THAN THAT.

THIS PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY PART OF THE LAKESIDE RANCH PD.

IT'S KIND OF ONE OF THE LAST REMAINING PIECES THAT DIDN'T GET DEVELOPED UNDER LAKESIDE RANCH.

SO, WHEN PARKWAY OFFICE HAD COME FORWARD, THEY PULLED THIS PIECE OUT OF THE LAKESIDE RANCH PD BECAUSE THEY HAD A DIFFERENT VISION FOR THE OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO THIS WAS THAT WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED HERE UNDER LAKESIDE RANCH, IT WAS VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S PROPOSED TODAY.

THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY ASKED IF THEY COULD JUST GO BACK TO LAKESIDE RANCH.

BUT WE DON'T HAVE UNDUE FOR ZONING, SO THEY HAVE TO JUST COME FORWARD WITH A NEW ZONING REQUEST.

SO, AS MENTIONED BEFORE, THEY ARE ASKING FOR A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.

THIS WAS WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED FOR THE PARKWAY OFFICE DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS ONE SPECIMEN TREE THAT WAS GOING TO BE REMOVED AT THAT TIME.

THESE WERE PROTECTED TREES.

THEY WERE ALSO PLANNED TO BE REMOVED, BUT THEY WEREN'T INCLUDED IN THAT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT BECAUSE THEY HADN'T YET GROWN TO THAT SIZE.

SO, THIS IS WHAT'S REQUESTED TODAY.

IT IS THOSE SAME THREE TREES, BUT IT'S NOW INCLUDING THREE SPECIMEN TREES BECAUSE THE TWO, PROTECTED TREES HAVE GROWN TO A SIZE THAT WOULD NOW REQUIRE IT.

THE ECC DID RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE THREE SPECIMEN TREES AT THEIR DECEMBER MEETING.

SO AGAIN, ONE LAST LOOK AT THE CONCEPT PLAN.

THIS IS THE CAPTION FOR WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. LEXIN COUNCIL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.

THANK YOU, MA'AM. I HAVE A NOTE THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION BY JESUS AGUAYO FROM KIMLEY HORN, DON LARK FROM HOPEWELL DEVELOPMENT, AND ALEX WILSON FROM LEE AND ASSOCIATES.

GENTLEMEN.

WELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR, COUNCIL JESUS AGUAYO.

WITH KIMLEY-HORN, 801 CHERRY STREET IN FORT WORTH.

ZIP CODE 76102.

AND DON LARK WITH HOPEWELL DEVELOPMENT ADDRESS ITS SUITE 41020 24TH STREET SW IN CALGARY, ALBERTA, CANADA.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WELL, COUNCIL, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS, PRESENTATION.

IT IS, IT WILL FEEL A LITTLE BIT REPETITIVE OF WHAT STAFF JUST PRESENTED BUT SHOULD ANY--WE'LL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

AFTER OUR PRESENTATION.

SO, LIKE STEPH MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTHEAST INTERSECTION OF GIROUD AND LAKESIDE. AGAIN, THERE'S OUR SITE PLAN THAT WAS JUST PRESENTED.

LOOKING AT A OFFICE WAREHOUSE USE.

IT'S AGAIN THE SAME LANDSCAPE PLANS AND THE SAME RENDERINGS THAT WERE JUST PRESENTED EARLIER.

AGAIN, THIS WAS MORE JUST TO REITERATE TO, TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT THE THE PRODUCT WE ARE PROPOSING IS A IS A QUALITY PRODUCT FOR THE TOWN.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THIS, BRING THIS TO THE TOWN.

SO, JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW THERE.

AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT OF A, A GREATER DETAIL OF KIND OF THE, THE INTENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROPOSE WITH THE DESIGN ELEMENTS AND HOW THESE ARE MEETING THE TOWN REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.

WHEN WE MET WITH STAFF, IT WAS COMMUNICATED TO US THAT BECAUSE THIS IS PART OF THE LAKESIDE DISTRICT, IT SHOULD MEET CERTAIN STANDARDS.

AND, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO PRESENT WITH OR PROVIDE WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, JUST SOME ADDITIONAL DETAILS THERE.

ON WHAT THESE SIZES OF THE BUILDINGS ARE.

AND AGAIN, THE SAME ELEVATIONS, WE CAN MAYBE TOGGLE THROUGH THESE QUICKLY.

THIS WAS PROVIDED, JUST TO SPEAK TO THE HOPEWELL DEVELOPMENT GROUP.

THESE ARE OTHER, SITES NATIONWIDE.

LIKE, MR. LARK INDICATED, HOPEWELL IS BASED OUT OF CALGARY, BUT THEY ARE, BRINGING A, A TRYING TO GROW THEIR PRESENCE IN THE US.

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AND JUST TO REITERATE AGAIN, TO MAYOR AND COUNCIL THAT, THE PRODUCT THEY PROPOSE IS A IS A QUALITY PRODUCT.

SO, I BELIEVE THIS WAS THE LAST SLIDE.

SO MAYBE I'LL LEAVE THIS UP.

SHOULD MAYOR COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US? THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU, GUYS FOR COMING TONIGHT.

SORRY, MAYOR, I HAVE A QUESTION.

SO, LEXIN MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PROJECT ON THIS SITE, AN OFFICE PROJECT, AND YOU HAVE NO INTENTION OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT PROJECT.

SO, WHEN YOU DESIGN THIS, YOU REALLY CAME IN WITH A BLANK SLATE, CORRECT? SO WHY DIDN'T YOU DESIGN SOMETHING AROUND THOSE SPECIMEN AND PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE ON THE NORTHWEST QUADRANT, SINCE THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN.

I THINK, I MEAN, THE TREES IN QUESTION.

WE'LL PULL UP THE SITE PLAN.

I THINK IT'S ALSO TO SPEAK TO WHERE THOSE TREES ARE.

RIGHT. SO, IN BOTH SITUATIONS, LOOKING AT IT FROM A BLANK SLATE, THEY WERE REMOVED IN BOTH CONDITIONS, BOTH VERY DIFFERENT PRODUCTS.

SO, THE TREES THEMSELVES ARE IN A VERY NON OPPORTUNE LOCATION.

EXCUSE ME.

SORRY. I THINK NO MATTER WHAT.

NO MATTER. AGAIN, THEY'RE JUST IN A NON-OPPORTUNE SPOT.

I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT.

IT HINDERS THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.

I MEAN THEY'RE RIGHT IN THE CENTER OF THE PROPERTY.

SO, I THINK ANY CONSIDERATION TO, TO KEEP THEM WOULD REALLY HINDER THE.

WELL, I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO SEE A PLAN WHERE YOU TRY AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, I'VE SEEN THIS.

SO, IF YOU HAD REACHED OUT TO ME PRIOR TO THIS MEETING, I WOULD HAVE TOLD YOU THAT I WENT DOWN LAKESIDE AND LOOKED AT SOME OF THE OTHER INDUSTRIAL BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA, AND THEY DO SEEM TO HAVE CARVED OUT AREAS WITH TREE TREES PRESERVED.

AND I BELIEVE IF YOU, YOU KNOW, HAD ONE BUILDING AND YOU REARRANGED THE PARKING, I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO DO THAT.

MAYBE NOT EVERYTHING, MAYBE NOT ALL OF THEM.

BUT THERE ARE CERTAINLY SOME ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER THAT SEEM LIKE THEY COULD BE PRESERVED.

SO, IF, THIS DOESN'T GET FINAL APPROVAL TONIGHT, THEN I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU WORK ON THAT PARTICULAR DETAIL.

THANKS. I CERTAINLY OUR PREFERENCE WOULD BE TO ENHANCE THE LANDSCAPING THAT IS PLANNED FOR THE BALANCE OF THE SITE.

AS JESUS MENTIONED, IT'S CHALLENGING WHEN THERE'S A SINGLE TREE OR TWO THAT'S IN THE WAY OF, YOU KNOW, A LOGICAL DEVELOPMENT.

HONESTLY, IF WE CAN'T ACHIEVE THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S ON THIS PLAN, IT'S NOT A PLAN THAT WE COULD PROCEED WITH IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO, IT'S THE ECONOMICS OF DEVELOPMENT ARE CHALLENGING, ESPECIALLY THE LAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS, AS INTEREST RATES HAVE GONE UP AS LENDERS HAVE TIGHTENED THEIR RESTRICTIONS ON LENDING. IT'S A CHALLENGE.

SO, THIS IS THE PLAN WE KNOW WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR CAPITAL PARTNER IS VERY KEEN ON THIS PROJECT.

PENDING COUNCIL APPROVAL.

WE WOULD CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY THIS FRIDAY AND BE IN WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS AND THE BALANCE OF THE PERMITTING PROCESS WITHIN, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS FROM NOW.

IF IT'S THE DECISION OF COUNCIL NOT TO PROCEED WITH THIS, OUR SHOT CLOCK IS PROBABLY UP WITH THE SELLER OF THE PROPERTY, AND WE'D PROBABLY HAVE TO WALK AWAY FROM IT, WHICH WOULD BE A SHAME.

WE'VE HAD ENJOYED WORKING WITH STAFF THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS ON THIS APPLICATION TO BRING IT TO THIS POINT, AND.

CAN YOU FLIP TO THE LANDSCAPE PLAN? YEAH. SO, IT LOOKS LIKE THREE SPECIMEN TREES, RIGHT? THAT'S KIND OF ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SCREEN.

AND THOSE BIG ON THE ON THE LEFT, FAR LEFT AND RIGHT JUST FOR PEOPLE WATCH THOSE BIG GRAY CIRCLE THINGS.

THAT'S THE FORECASTED TREE CANOPY OF THE NEW, LANDSCAPE THAT WE PLANTED.

RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, THIS IS PROPOSED.

THIS DOES NOT SHOW THE THREE SPECIMEN TREES THAT ARE BEING REMOVED.

I DON'T HAVE THAT SLIDE PARTICULARLY IN RIGHT IN THIS PRESENTATION, BUT THIS WOULD BE POST, LANDSCAPE.

AND AS, AS FAR AS PRESERVATION GOES, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU CAN SEE MY CURSOR, BUT THERE ISN'T.

THERE ARE STREET TREES CURRENTLY ON DEATH ROW, AND THERE IS AN EFFORT BEING MADE TO PRESERVE TREES IN THIS GROUP.

WE ACTUALLY, AT ONE POINT, REROUTED OUR SIDEWALK HERE TO AS AN EFFORT TO PRESERVE TREES.

THAT WOULD, WE'RE IN A LOGICAL PLACE THAT WE PRESERVE.

SO, WE'RE ALSO NOT MOWING THE SITE.

IF THERE WAS A LOGICAL PLACE TO PRESERVE TREES, WE MADE AN EFFORT TO DO SO.

SO, I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT BECAUSE I DO HAVE, I GUESS, A REPUTATION FOR LOOKING AT TREE REMOVAL REQUESTS WITH A HIGH DEGREE OF SCRUTINY.

AND WHEN I FIRST LOOKED AT THE PLAN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT OPTIONS GO THROUGH MY MIND, LIKE, COULD THE BUILDING BE MOVED AND COULD THE PARKING, YOU KNOW, BE MOVED FROM ONE

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AND I THINK WITH THE PASSAGE OF TIME, TWO OF THE TREES THAT WERE PROTECTED DID GROW TO THE SIZE WHERE THEY'RE SPECIMEN TREES NOW.

SO THAT COMPLICATES THE MATTER A LITTLE BIT.

THEY REALLY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AREA THAT SHOULD BE BUILT ON OR COULD BE BUILT ON.

AND SO, THE STATE MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US EVEN TO PUSH FOR SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE REQUEST, BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BUILDABLE PORTION OF THE LOT.

CORRECT. RIGHT.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT IF IT CANNOT BE PRACTICALLY OR ECONOMICALLY DEVELOPED WITH THIS REQUEST, AND I THINK THAT REALLY IS THE CASE HERE. SO, WHILE I AM A HUGE ADVOCATE FOR PROTECTING TREES BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE PRECIOUS HERE IN THIS AREA, OF THE WORLD AND THE COUNTRY, I THINK WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY ALTERNATIVES.

I APPRECIATE THAT YOUR LANDSCAPE PLAN DOES INCLUDE MANY MORE TREES, AND THEY'LL BE OBVIOUSLY IN KEEPING WITH THE TREE ORDINANCE THAT WE HAVE IN TOWN.

SO, YOU HAVE TO PUT A CERTAIN VARIETY IN, ET CETERA.

SO, I WOULD RELUCTANTLY BE OKAY WITH THIS.

COUNCIL. I MEAN, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO. WELL, I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.

SO, I'M ASSUMING THAT BASICALLY WHAT YOU'VE GOT HERE IS BASICALLY BUILDING SHELLS AND THAT'S IT.

ARE YOU PLANNING ON POSSIBILITY OF MEZZANINE OFFICE SPACE WITHIN THE EITHER OF THE BUILDINGS? SO, WITH THE BASE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, WE WILL BE BUILDING OFFICE SPACE IN THE TWO SORT OF CORNERS UP ALONG GIROUD BASICALLY TO MAKE THEM SORT OF ALMOST TURNKEY TYPE PROPERTIES FOR TENANTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMING IN, DEPENDING ON TENANT, THE TYPE OF TENANT AND WHAT THEIR BUSINESS IS, THEY MAY CHOOSE TO.

WE'VE SEEN IT BEFORE WHERE THEY ADD SOME MEZZANINE SPACE, THEY EXPAND THE OFFICE SPACE.

IT'S VERY USER DEPENDENT, BUT WE DO KIND OF TRY TO CREATE AN ALMOST, A NEAR FINISHED PRODUCT SO THAT THEY CAN GET IN AND GET UP INTO BUSINESS FASTER AND GET DOWN TO BUSINESS FASTER.

YEAH. WELL, YOU'VE DEFINITELY GOT THE HEIGHT OF 32-FOOT CLEAR HEIGHT, CORRECT? YES. AND YOU'RE GOOD ON THE PARKING.

YOU'RE PLANNING ON MORE PARKING THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED, CORRECT? YES. IF YOU ADD A WHOLE LOT MORE MEZZANINE SPACE THAT YOU COULD RUN INTO PROBLEMS. BUT YOU'RE GOOD FOR RIGHT NOW FOR WHAT WE KNOW.

YEAH. OKAY.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

SIR, ARE YOU BUILDING THESE, SPECULATIVELY OR DO YOU HAVE PROPOSED POTENTIAL TENANTS IN MIND? MOST OF THIS PRODUCT IN ANY MARKET ACROSS NORTH AMERICA IS BUILT ON SPEC.

IT'S JUST THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS.

SOMETIMES WE'VE DONE BUILD TO SUITS WHERE A TENANT IS EXPRESSES INTEREST IN THE LOCATION AHEAD OF TIME.

BUT THE VAST MAJORITY, PROBABLY 90 PLUS PERCENT, IT'S IT'S BUILT ON SPEC.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE BUILDING A MOUSE TRAP THAT WORKS FOR MOST TYPES OF BUSINESSES.

THE CLEAR HEIGHT IS, YOU KNOW, MORE THAN SUITABLE FOR MOST BUSINESSES.

YOU KNOW, WE CREATE A SMALL KIND OF 2000 SQUARE FOOT OFFICE, WHICH, AGAIN, WILL ACCOMMODATE MOST USES, AND IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE SPACE.

AND THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SEEING SO MUCH OF IT BUILT.

IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE.

THE DEVELOPMENT WE FINISHED IN, IN IN FORT WORTH ABOUT A YEAR AGO UP BY THE SPEEDWAY, AS SIMILAR WAREHOUSE SPACE. BUT WE HAD A TECHNICAL COLLEGE TAKE, TAKE A GOOD CHUNK OF ONE OF THE BUILDINGS.

NOT THAT SOMETHING WE EXPECTED, TYPICALLY, BUT IT'S VERY FLEXIBLE SPACE AND YOU JUST DO A DIFFERENT SORT OF FIT OUT INSIDE.

SO, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE BUSINESSES.

SO, AND I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT IN THE SORT OF THE DALLAS FORT WORTH AREA, THE VACANCY RATE FOR LIGHT INDUSTRIAL PRODUCTS, ABOUT 9%.

BUT IN THE FLOWER MOUND SORT OF SUBMARKET THAT YOU'RE IN IS ABOUT JUST UNDER 5%.

SO, IT'S EFFECTIVELY OUT OF SPACE.

AND THIS IS OBVIOUSLY JUST THE LAST PIECE OF THE PUZZLE IN THIS, IN THIS VICINITY, WHICH IS APPEALING TO US.

WE'VE DONE OTHER SORT OF INFILL SITES LIKE THIS AND OTHER MARKETS IN THE US.

YOU KNOW, THIS THIS SITE IS FANTASTIC FOR ACCESS.

IT'S GOT THREE ALTERNATE ACCESSES WITH DECELERATION LANES.

SO, IT GETS ANY KIND OF TRUCK TRAFFIC OFF THE ROAD QUICKLY.

IT'S GREAT FOR PASSENGER VEHICLES COMING AND GOING.

THERE'S LOTS OF OPTIONS AND IT'S OBVIOUSLY WE'RE NOT WE'RE JUST WE'RE CONNECTING INTO EXISTING SERVICES.

SO, IT'S JUST A VERY EFFICIENT WAY FOR TOWNS TO PUT PROPERTY INTO PRODUCTIVE USE, TO CREATE JOBS, CREATE INVESTMENT, CREATE PROPERTY TAX BASE AND CLEAN UP THE CORNER. FRANKLY, IT LOOKS OKAY RIGHT NOW.

BUT I THINK WITH A COUPLE OF THESE BUILDINGS AND THE ENHANCING THE LANDSCAPING AND THE PATHWAY AND SO ON, IT'LL BE A VERY ATTRACTIVE DEVELOPMENT.

AND WE TAKE PRIDE IN THAT. WE, BY THE WAY, BEEN IN BUSINESS IN CANADA FOR OVER 30 YEARS.

WE'VE DONE DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS ALL THE MAJOR MARKETS IN CANADA, AND WE'VE BEEN IN THE US SINCE 2016.

WE'VE DONE OVER A DOZEN DEVELOPMENTS IN THE GREATER PHENIX AREA, LAS VEGAS, AND NOW HERE IN DALLAS FORT WORTH, AND CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO ADD FLOWER MOUND TO THE LIST AS WELL.

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I MEAN, I'M JUST, I SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS ABOUT LOSING THE TREES.

I DO IT DOES LOOK LIKE YOU GUYS HAVE A LARGER LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG GROVE AND LAKESIDE COMPARED TO SOME OF THE SURROUNDING, WAREHOUSES.

BUT I JUST DON'T SEE HOW WE WOULD ADJUST THE BUILDINGS TO REALLY PRESERVE THOSE TREES.

I MEAN, YOU BASICALLY HAVE TO CUT ONE OF THE BUILDINGS IN HALF, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS REALLY FEASIBLE.

SO OVERALL, I THINK I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS, SO THANK YOU, SIR.

GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

THE TIME IS NOW 7:11 AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEMS K TWO AND K THREE AT THE SAME TIME.

THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR EITHER OF THESE ITEMS? NO, I DO NOT.

IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE.

THE TIME IS 7:11 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS. ITEM K.2 ZPD 23-0006 HOPEWELL GIROUD INDUSTRIAL AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

I THINK IT WAS.

I SAID, OKAY, THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.

ITEM K.2 PASSES BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEMS. ITEM K.3 TRP 23-0021 HOPEWELL GIROUD INDUSTRIAL AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION, THERESA? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ITEM THREE PASSES BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1.

MOVING ON TO ITEM K.4 FLOMO CONVOS DEVELOPMENT.

[K.4. FloMo Convos - Development - Consider and discuss feedback from the development community on the most recent installment of the Town's FloMo Convos outreach meetings]

GOOD EVENING AGAIN.

EVERYBODY IN THE BACK WANTS TO MOVE FORWARD.

WE CAN FILL IN THE FRONT SEATS IN THE PEWS.

I WAS JUST KIDDING. IT'S MOSTLY STAFF.

SORRY, LEXIN. GO AHEAD.

AND SO, THIS IS A BRIEF PRESENTATION.

JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU ALL AN UPDATE ON OUR MOST RECENT BLOG POST, FLOMO CONVOS DEVELOPMENT OUTREACH.

SO, YOU MAY RECALL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT JAMES STARTED BACK IN 2022.

THE FIRST KIND OF SESSIONS FOR FLOMO CONVOS WERE FOR RESIDENTS AND GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.

AND SO, THE NEXT EDITION OF THIS WAS REACHING OUT TO THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL.

SO, WE SET UP THREE DIFFERENT MEETING TIMES, DIFFERENT DAYS, AND ALSO DIFFERENT TIMES OF DAY TO TRY TO BE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE KIND OF WHENEVER THEY COULD COME TO US.

WE HAVE MORE THAN 30 ATTENDEES FROM THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY THAT SHOWED UP.

WE ALSO HAD 17 DIFFERENT STAFF PARTICIPANTS FROM VARIOUS DIVISIONS OR DEPARTMENTS.

WE WEREN'T DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME 17 PEOPLE AT ALL MEETINGS.

BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAY WE KIND OF HAD PEOPLE FROM DIFFERENT GROUPS AT ALL OF THE MEETINGS.

YOU CAN SEE FROM SOME OF THESE PHOTOS THAT WE HAD FACILITATED CONVERSATIONS WHERE WE BROKE PEOPLE INTO SMALLER GROUPS, KIND OF BASED ON THEIR INTEREST IF THEY WERE THERE, MORE ABOUT BUILDING PERMITTING OR MORE ABOUT CONSTRUCTION, PERMITTING OR PLANNING AND ZONING QUESTIONS SO THAT THEY COULD KIND OF HAVE A SMALL GROUP THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE PEOPLE WITH SIMILAR QUESTIONS.

AND SO THEN WE HAD A FACILITATOR AND ALSO AT LEAST ONE STAFF REPRESENTATIVE AT EACH OF THOSE TABLES.

WE TALKED PEOPLE THROUGH QUESTIONS OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU LIKE BEST ABOUT WORKING WITH FLOWER MOUND? WHAT ARE SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS? WHAT IS THE BIGGEST KIND OF IMPEDIMENTS TO THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS FOR YOU TO TRY TO GET THAT FEEDBACK? AND SO WE PROVIDED WITHIN THE PACKET FOR COUNCIL.

WE TOOK SCREENSHOTS OF EACH OF THOSE PAGES THAT CAME OUT OF THE MEETINGS, BECAUSE WE DID COMMIT TO EVERYBODY THAT SHOWED UP.

HEY, WE ARE GOING TO GIVE YOUR EXACT FEEDBACK, YOU KNOW, TWO COUNCIL.

BUT THEN KIND OF, FOR YOUR EASE, TRIED TO SUMMARIZE IT INTO, YOU KNOW, LISTS OF, OKAY, THESE ARE KIND OF THE GENERAL CATEGORY THESE ITEMS WERE IN.

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AND ALSO WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE COUNCIL DIRECTION, ALSO INCLUDED A EXIT SURVEY WITHIN THE COUNCIL PACKET, THAT WE INVITED EVERYBODY TO TAKE.

NOT EVERYONE TOOK IT, BUT DID THINK THAT IT WAS A GOOD TESTAMENT TO THE QUALITY OVERALL OF THIS VENTURE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, 71% OF THE PEOPLE THAT RESPONDED STRONGLY, AGREED THAT, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY SESSION THEY ATTENDED WAS BOTH HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE.

I'LL SAY WITHIN KIND OF THE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GOT FELL INTO A FEW DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

TO ME, FIRST WAS SOME OF IT WAS THINGS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO ANSWER RIGHT THEN ON THE SPOT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEBODY LIKE, I'D REALLY LIKE IT IF YOU APPROVED EMERGENCY PERMITS, SAME DAY.

AND WE'RE LIKE, WE DO APPROVE EMERGENCY PERMITS THE SAME DAY.

SO WE'VE JUST MADE YOUR DAY.

BUT, ALSO, IT'S A GOOD POINT THAT WE COULD MAKE THAT INFORMATION MORE READILY AVAILABLE.

SO WE HAVE SINCE CREATED A PAGE ON OUR WEBSITE THAT EXPLAINS THAT YOU CAN APPLY FOR EMERGENCY PERMITS.

WHAT THOSE ARE, WHAT THOSE INCLUDE AND THAT THEY CAN BE, RECEIVED THE SAME DAY.

WE ALSO HAD SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE TOOK MORE TIMING TO GET TO, BUT ALSO MIGHT HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD HANDLE.

SO, FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF THE COMMENTS WE GOT WAS, OH, YOU KNOW, REALLY WISH YOU HAD MORE DETAILS ABOUT YOUR TIMELINES FOR HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THESE DIFFERENT PROCESSES ONLINE.

AND SO, WE HAVE SINCE CREATED A DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WEB PAGE ON OUR SITE THAT KIND OF ALL THE DIFFERENT SPECTRUM OF THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS WITH STARTING FROM ZONING, SITE PLANNING, BUT THEN ALSO INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, INFRASTRUCTURE PERMITS AND THEN YOUR BUILDING PERMITS AND THEN ACTUAL OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING.

SO OF COURSE IT CAN'T INCLUDE EVERY POSSIBLE STEP, BUT IT GENERALLY SHOWS PEOPLE KIND OF THE OVERALL PROCESS AND WHAT THOSE TIMELINES INCLUDE.

SO, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT STAFF WAS ABLE TO DO.

BUT WE WEREN'T ABLE TO DO IT RIGHT.

THEN THAT DAY, THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE FEEDBACK THAT WE RECEIVED BUT MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING THAT WE NECESSARILY HAVE A GOOD ANSWER FOR.

SO, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, WITH TRACK IT, SOMEBODY IS LIKE, I REALLY WISH TRACK IT WAS MORE ACCESSIBLE, YOU KNOW, ONLINE AND OR THROUGH MY KIND OF MOBILE DEVICES.

AND IT'S LIKE, YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE A MOBILE APP.

WE WISH IT DOES, BUT IT DOESN'T.

AND SO, WE'RE REALLY JUST NOT ABLE TO FIX THAT AT THIS TIME.

I MEAN, UNLESS WE WOULD GO WITH A NEW SOFTWARE, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE'VE COMMUNICATED TO THE VENDOR THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPLEMENTED, BUT WE JUST DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD SOLUTION FOR THAT AT THIS TIME.

YOU KNOW. AND THERE WERE THEN THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY A CHANGE IN KIND OF HOW THE TOWN IS CURRENTLY HANDLING THINGS.

SO, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL.

SO, ONE EXAMPLE OF THAT MIGHT BE WE RECEIVED FEEDBACK THAT, WELL, WE WISH WE WISH THAT WE COULD SHORTEN THE TIMELINE OR THE AMOUNT OF DETAIL WE HAVE TO PROVIDE ON THE FRONT END. SO, WE WISH WE DIDN'T HAVE TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, SO MUCH ENGINEERING WITH THE ZONING APPLICATION.

WE'D RATHER, YOU KNOW, PUT OFF THE ENGINEERING UNTIL WE GET TO THE SITE PLAN PART, ONCE WE ACTUALLY KNOW IF THE USE IS ALLOWED.

SO, I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT STAFF COULD MODIFY OUR APPLICATIONS TO REFLECT.

IT WOULD TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL TO DO THAT.

SO AGAIN, TRIED TO IDENTIFY THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD TAKE DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THIS INFORMATION OR TO TAKE ANY DIRECTION FROM COUNCIL.

IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.

THANKS. LEXIN. COUNCIL.

I MEAN, THAT WAS A LOT TO DIGEST, RIGHT? SO, IF YOU LIKE, CAN YOU FLIP BACK? I'M SORRY. IT WAS PROBABLY SLIDE.

YEAH. THAT ONE.

SORRY, THESE WERE JUST KIND OF EXAMPLE PICTURES.

THIS WASN'T LIKE ALL OF THE DETAILS.

THERE'S PAGES AND PAGES.

YEAH. NO, IT'S A GREAT PACKET.

SO, JUST TO CLARIFY THOUGH, FOR EVERYONE WATCHING AT HOME.

COUNCIL DIRECTION? YES OR NO? SO, THAT'S IT'S NOT WHETHER YOU'VE RECEIVED THE DIRECTION OR NOT.

IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THAT THAT CHANGE OR THAT REQUIREMENT REQUIRES COUNCIL DIRECTION IN LIEU OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE CHANGE.

THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY.

AND THEN WHAT? WHETHER WE WANT TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGES, WE JUST WANT TO APPROVE THEM ALL OR WELL, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A WORK SESSION? I THINK THAT SOME I THINK IT WOULD.

I THINK THAT'S THE POINT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO.

THIS IS A LOT. THIS IS GREAT.

THERE ARE SO MANY.

AND BRIAN'S POINT. YEAH, WE NEED TWO OF THEM, YOU KNOW, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE SENTENCE OR TWO ON POTENTIAL SOLUTIONS, BUT WHEN I READ THROUGH, I'M LIKE, WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS?

[01:20:07]

I LIKE A WORK SESSION, I THINK.

SO, MY ONLY CAVEAT TO THAT, JAMES, IS, AGAIN, WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT STAFF, I DID HAVE A QUESTION, THOUGH.

IT SEEMS LIKE THIS TOOK FIVE MONTHS TO GET IN FRONT OF US.

SO, JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND.

RIGHT. SO, WE'RE ALREADY SORT OF FIVE MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, SINCE IT WAS HELD.

SO, I'M NOT SURE WHEN WE CAN GET IT ON THE NEXT WORK SESSION.

I'M SURE THURSDAY NIGHT'S ALREADY FULL, AS WELL AS PROBABLY THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

RIGHT. BUT I THINK I THINK I'M HEARING FROM COUNCIL THAT WE NEED TO.

THIS IS A SERIOUS THING.

WE NEED TO DISCUSS IT.

WE'D HAVE TO TALK ABOUT EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.

REALLY, SO WE CAN DEVISE HOW WE WANT TO BRING THIS FORWARD.

I THINK JUST RIGHT NOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO GO TO MY MEMORY.

WE HAVE A KIND OF TARGET LIST FOR FUTURE WORK SESSIONS IN OUR CONFERENCE ROOM UPSTAIRS.

I THINK MARCH WILL PROBABLY BE AN APPROPRIATE TIME FRAME TO MAYBE ZERO IN ON THIS.

I KNOW OBVIOUSLY THURSDAY IS FULL AND I THINK OUR FEBRUARY IS PRETTY FULL, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY I'LL WORK WITH LEXIN IN THE GROUP AND JUST FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN KIND OF TAKE THIS ALL IN.

WE KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST PART OF THAT STRATEGY OF, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST ONE THAT WE DID WAS MORE KIND OF A BROAD PROOF OF CONCEPT OF JUST SEEING IF THE FORMAT IS WORKING AND PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED AND PROVIDING THIS GOOD FEEDBACK AND INFORMATION.

THIS TASK IS VERY GRANULAR BECAUSE THOSE ARE OUR CUSTOMERS, OUR STAKEHOLDERS, IF YOU WILL.

AND SO, THERE'S A LOT TO PARSE THROUGH.

SO, WE'LL SIT DOWN AND FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO APPROACH IT.

AND WE CAN TAKE A SHOT AND START THAT PROCESS IN MARCH.

I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, HELPFUL FOR ME IS IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF, SYSTEM WHERE YOU COULD RATE AND RANK THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS, THE PROBABLE PAYBACK, YOU KNOW, THE INVESTMENT.

SO, WE HAVE SOME WAY OF CATEGORIZING THEM BEYOND WHAT YOU'VE DONE.

BUT JUST, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE PAYBACK? WHAT'S THE INVESTMENT? HOW DIFFICULT IS IT? WHAT'S THE BENEFIT KIND OF THING? AND SO, I'M ENVISIONING YOU WOULD ONLY WANT TO SEE THINGS THAT WOULD NEED COUNCIL DIRECTION.

YOU DON'T WANT TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE LIST.

AND THEN THERE'S ALSO THERE'S SOME THINGS IN HERE THAT, I WANTED TO PUT IT IN HERE, MAKE YOU AWARE OF IT.

IT'S FEEDBACK WE GOT. BUT FOR INSTANCE, THE ONE THAT'S TALKING ABOUT, CHANGING THE MODEL HOME ORDINANCE.

SO, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO BRING IT FORWARD TO YOU.

SO, I SAY YES, IT REQUIRES COUNCIL FEEDBACK BECAUSE YOU WILL MAKE A DECISION ON IT.

BUT I DON'T THINK THAT NECESSARILY NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS BECAUSE THAT'S ALREADY SOMETHING THAT'S COMING FORWARD AS PART OF A LAND USE UPDATE.

SO, I WOULD THINK WE WOULD WANT TO SEE ESPECIALLY ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES AN INVESTMENT.

WHICH IS WHY I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE GET IT IN IN MARCH SO THAT IT BUILDS INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS, FOR NEXT YEAR.

AS WELL. AND I AGREE WITH ANN ON, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFICATION OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO GET BANG FOR OUR BUCK HERE LIKE A SWOT ANALYSIS MAYBE.

YEAH. AND ALONG THOSE LINES, MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL THE EXAMPLE I REMEMBER, I WAS ABLE TO SIT IN ON ONE OF THE SESSIONS.

I THINK ONE OF THE FEEDBACK ITEMS THAT I SAW IN THE SESSION I WAS ABLE TO SIT IN ON IS A, A NEW, STAFF MEMBER WHOSE PURPOSE IS TO KIND OF HELP FACILITATE AND MOVE THINGS THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.

OBVIOUSLY, THAT'S AN FTE, THAT'S A BUDGET CONSIDERATION.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE IN A DECISION PACKAGE.

SO OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD HAVE TO GEAR UP AND HAVE THAT PREPARED FOR THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO, I THINK WE'RE ALIGNED FROM THAT STANDPOINT OF FINDING THOSE THINGS THAT ARE TIME SENSITIVE AND HAVE A BUDGETARY COST THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED IN FUTURE BUDGET SESSION.

AND THEN THERE'S JUST SOME GOOD FEEDBACK, A LITTLE EDITORIALIZING, I THINK ITS SCATTERED IN THERE.

SO, WE I THINK I UNDERSTAND THE DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TO JUST KIND OF SORT EVERYTHING AND PUT IT IN A POSITION OF THINGS THAT YOU ALL NEED TO ACT ON AND THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BRING FORWARD POTENTIALLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

SO, I THINK WE CAN BE PREPARED TO DO THAT BY MARCH.

AND, JAMES, CAN FEES BE PART OF THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR SOME OF THESE ADDITIONAL HEAD COUNTS ITEMS? I KNOW I THINK WE RAISED THE FEES TO TRY TO CAPTURE CLOSER TO 100%.

CAN SOME OF THAT BE ADJUSTED TO GIVE THEM THE LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR? THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES.

I WILL ADMIT I'M NOT AS, FAMILIAR WITH OUR FEE STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE IN THESE VARIOUS AREAS, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT THAT, THE FEES THAT CAN CONTEMPLATE THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DOING THE WORK FOR THE FOR THE FEES.

AND LEXIN. I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT I THINK I UNDERSTAND, AND I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T WANT TO INVEST A TON IN OUR ENGINEERING, ONLY TO BE DENIED.

SO, I'D BE CURIOUS TO SEE HOW WE COULD, MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING, AND THE LEVEL OF QUALITY IS GOING TO BE THERE, BUT NOT PUT THEM THROUGH A WHOLE, YOU KNOW, MAJOR INVESTMENT.

SO, YEAH, THAT'S KIND OF THE ONE THING I WANT TO FOCUS ON THE MOST IN THAT WORK SESSION.

THANKS. YEAH. TO THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, ANY IF THERE'S DIFFERENT OPTIONS TO, TO HANDLE THESE, YOU KNOW, LET'S LOOK AT THE OPTIONS AND THEN WHAT STAFF RECOMMENDS.

[01:25:06]

AND SO ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU GUYS HAVE, SINCE YOU'RE THE EXPERTS IN THIS DAY IN AND DAY OUT, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.

MR. DREW, DO YOU HAVE ANY INPUT FOR STAFF AS WE MOVE THIS FORWARD TO A WORK SESSION? NO, NOTHING TO ADD.

I THINK I THINK IT'S ALL BEEN CAPTURED.

EXCELLENT, SIR. ALL RIGHT.

THANK YOU. LEXIN. WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM FIVE SOLID WASTE FRANCHISE AGREEMENT AMENDMENT.

[K.5. Solid Waste Franchise Agreement Amendment - Public Hearing to consider adopting, on first reading, an ordinance amending an ordinance of the Town of Flower Mound, Texas which adopted a Solid Waste Franchise Agreement with Allied Waste Services of Fort Worth, LLC dba Republic Services, in order to impose an extra yardage (EXY) fee of $45.00 per incident of overflow to commercial and industrial customers in place of a notice of non-collection, including a fixed annual increase of 2.6%; and adding a Green Waste Pilot Program, at no charge to the Town which will provide for the pickup of green waste (such as brush, leaves, grass, weeds and other vegetation) from residents.]

SWITCHING IT UP.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED, I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT THE CHARTER REQUIRES THAT WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER ADOPTING ON FIRST AND SECOND READING, SO NO ACTION IS REQUIRED TONIGHT.

SO, WHAT I THOUGHT I WOULD DO IS JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU A REFRESHER OF HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT, IF THAT'S OKAY.

SO, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION PER SE.

I'M JUST GOING TO REVIEW WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS POINT.

SO, BACK IN DECEMBER AND THE DECEMBER 4TH COUNCIL MEETING, REPUBLIC SERVICES BROUGHT FORWARD, WE HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GREEN WASTE FOR THE TOWN, AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION COMMISSION HAS, THAT'S BEEN AN INITIATIVE OF THEIRS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND SO, WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS ASK FOR PUBLIC TO COME FORWARD WITH SOME OPTIONS, WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THE TOWN.

THEY BROUGHT THAT FORWARD ON DECEMBER 4TH.

WE DISCUSSED THOSE AND THEN, COUNCIL GAVE US DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AMENDMENT TO.

MODIFY THE CURRENT AGREEMENT TO ALLOW FOR AN EXTRA YARDAGE FEE FOR COMMERCIAL INDUSTRIAL CUSTOMERS, BECAUSE WE SEEM TO BE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THEM OVER FILLING THEIR CONTAINERS, AND WE FEEL LIKE THIS WILL HELP CURTAIL THAT BEHAVIOR.

IF THEY SEE THESE EXTRA CHARGES ON THEIR BILLS, THEY'LL CALL REPUBLIC, AND REPUBLIC WILL SAY, HEY, YOU EITHER NEED TO INCREASE THE FREQUENCY WITH WHICH YOU'RE GETTING YOUR CONTAINERS EMPTIED, OR YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO GET A BIGGER ONE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW WHEN THEY OVERFILL IT, IT'S A SAFETY HAZARD FOR THE DRIVERS.

AND THEN IT'S ALSO A, AN ISSUE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT TOO.

SO, WITH THAT OPTION, REPUBLIC GENEROUSLY OFFERED TO PAY FOR A PILOT PROGRAM SO THAT WE CAN GAUGE THE COMMUNITY'S INTEREST IN A GREEN WASTE PROGRAM BEFORE WE EVER WOULD BRING ANYTHING FORWARD TO THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD COST THEM ADDITIONAL FUNDS.

SO, THAT'S WHERE WE ARE.

THIS IS THE REQUEST FOR AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.

AND THE.

WE INCLUDED THE GREEN WASTE PILOT PROGRAM IN THE AMENDMENT.

AND IT'S DETAILED IN THERE.

ON PAGE 208 OF THE PACKET.

SO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

AWESOME. THANK YOU. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I THINK YOU, SHELLY. ALL RIGHT.

AND WE'LL BRING IT FORWARD AGAIN ON THE FEBRUARY 5TH MEETING.

YES, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW 7:29.

AND I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM K FIVE THERESA.

DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS? I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THIS ITEM? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE.

THE TIME IS STILL 7:29 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

COUNCIL FOR ANY DISCUSSION.

I DO HAVE A NOTE.

WE'RE NOT CALLING THE ROLL TONIGHT.

THERE NEEDS TO BE A SECOND READING ON THE 5TH OF FEBRUARY, SO WE'LL JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION IF YOU WANTED TO HAVE ANY DISCUSSIONS.

I THINK IN FEBRUARY.

WHEN IT COMES FORWARD, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT AN OPTION TO REQUIRE YARD WASTE, ORGANIC WASTE TO BE DISPOSED OF IN COMPOSTABLE BAGS, PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF NECESSARILY DOING THE WHOLE GREEN WASTE PROGRAM AT AN ADDITIONAL COST.

CAN WE JUST CHANGE THE METHOD OF COLLECTION SO THAT IT IS MORE FRIENDLY TO THE LANDFILL? SO, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT THAT AS AN OPTION.

SO, WE'LL DO THAT AT THE OTHER MEETING, I THINK.

RIGHT. YEAH.

ANYONE ELSE. ALL RIGHT.

WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM L.

[L. BOARDS/COMMISSIONS]

SO, WE ARE GOING TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER DESIGNATING THE ZONE NUMBER ONE CHAIR.

[01:30:02]

THE CONTENT IS IN THE PACKET THAT OUTLINES THAT.

THIS IS THE STRUCTURE THAT COUNCIL.

IT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL THAT COUNCIL ACTUALLY APPOINTS THE CHAIR FOR THIS PARTICULAR BODY FOR A ONE-YEAR TERM.

AND IN THE PACKET IS THE LIST OF INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE ELIGIBLE TO SERVE IN THAT POSITION WITH MARK HARGRAVES, TIM WHISENHUNT, JIM ENGEL, THE CURRENT CHAIR, DAVID JOHNSON, WHO'S A DENTON COUNTY APPOINTEE, LARRY LIPSCOMB, WHO IS A DENTON COUNTY APPOINTEE AS WELL.

SO, EX OFFICIO MEMBERS ARE THE MAYOR AND THE TOWN MANAGER.

BUT THIS IS WHERE COUNCIL ACTION IS NEEDED IN THE WAY OF A MOTION.

AND YOU WOULD USE THE DRAFT MOTION AT THE BOTTOM AND JUST FILL IN THE BLANK FOR YOUR DESIGNEE FOR WHO YOU WOULD LIKE TO SERVE AS CHAIR FOR THE NEXT YEAR.

THANK YOU. THERESA COUNCIL I THINK WE DID GET ONE EMAIL FROM AN INTERESTED MEMBER.

IT WAS MR. DAVE JOHNSON.

I THINK HE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST.

DID ANYBODY ELSE RECEIVE ANY COMMUNICATION? I HAVE A QUESTION. THERESA IS IT A PROBLEM IF MR. ENGEL CONTINUES UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF HIS TERM, AND THEN WE REAPPOINT AT THAT TIME.

IT'S NOT AT ALL. IN FACT, HE COULD EVEN CONTINUE AFTER THE TERM.

BUT IT'S COUNCIL'S DISCRETION AT THAT.

WHAT A NICE OPTION TO HAVE.

I'M IN FAVOR OF KEEPING COUNCILMAN ENGEL IN PLACE.

YES, I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT AS WELL.

FOR AS LONG AS HE WANTS THE JOB.

VOLUNTEERED OR TOLD.

LET'S SEE, MR. TAYLOR.

I COMPLETELY AGREE.

MR. DREW, DID YOU HEAR THAT? YEP. I SORRY, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M YELLING IN THE MIC.

SORRY. ALL RIGHT, WELL, I GUESS WITH THAT, THEN, YOU HAVE A DRAFT, SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE ONE.

BOARD, I MOVE TO DESIGNATE JIM ENGEL AS CHAIR, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY AND THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.

SECOND.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A COUPLE SECONDS.

ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? JUST TO BE CLEAR, I HEARD I HEARD THE DATE.

SO, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GET THAT IN THE MOTION DECEMBER 31ST.

YEAH, IT WAS IN THE MOTION. UNLESS, YOU KNOW, MR. ENGEL WERE TO RESIGN PRIOR TO THAT DATE, HE COULD CONTINUE ON UNTIL THE END OF THE YEAR.

ANY OTHER DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

CALL]. ITEM NUMBER ONE, THE REAPPOINTMENT OF MR. JIM ENGEL AS TERM CHAIR PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

SORRY, L.1.

I LOST MY PLACE.

IT IS ONLY 7:30.

SO, WITH THAT, THE TIME IS NOW.

733 IN YOUR TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTIONS 071,

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

OKAY, THE TIME IS NOW 8:49 AND TOWN COUNCIL IS RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN MEETING.

THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN AS A RESULT OF OUR CLOSED MEETING.

SO, THE TIME IS NOW 8:49 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.