[00:00:01] GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND. THE TIME IS NOW 6:00 AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER. PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES. CHAPLAIN MIKE LYLES, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION. OUR FATHER IN HEAVEN. WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE DAY YOU BLESSED US WITH AND FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR THE BOUNTY WE ENJOY AS WE LIVE IN THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND. WE THANK YOU FOR OUR FINE COMMUNITY. WE THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR. WE CAN MEET WITH FAMILY AND FRIENDS AND ENJOY EACH OTHER AND ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL ATMOSPHERE THAT WE HAVE AND ENJOY HERE IN FLOWER MOUND. THANK YOU FOR OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT MAKE THAT POSSIBLE AS WELL, AND I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE COUNCILMAN AND THE TOWN STAFF THAT WORK TOGETHER TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. WHAT A BLESSING IT IS, FATHER, TO LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY. BE WITH EVERYONE. FATHER, THAT'S A PART OF THIS MEETING TONIGHT, AND BLESS THEM AND KEEP THEM SAFE IN ALL THAT THEY DO. FATHER, YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN OUR LIVES AND WE LOOK TO YOU EVERY DAY FOR STRENGTH WITH YOU. FATHER, WE HAVE IT ALL. WITHOUT YOU WE HAVE NOTHING. SO WE CLING TO YOU EVERY DAY OF OUR LIFE. FATHER, BECAUSE YOU ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN OUR LIVES. BLESS US AS WE SERVE YOU, BLESS OUR TOWN, BLESS OUR COMMUNITY. WE ASK IT ALL IN JESUS NAME. AMEN. AMEN. THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN LYLES, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE PLEDGE TO OUR TEXAS FLAG. YEEHAW! ALL RIGHT, SO GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY JUST A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME, IF YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD. PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS THAT ARE MARKED AS PUBLIC HEARING SO YOU'LL BE ADDRESSING COUNCIL DURING THOSE AGENDA ITEMS WHICH ARE GOING TO BE OPENED AFTER OUR CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING SO IF YOU'RE HERE FOR AN AGENDA ITEM YOU'RE WELCOME TO STAY, BUT WE PROBABLY WON'T BE GETTING TO THE FULL AGENDA ITEMS UNTIL ABOUT 7/7:30. SO MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH A PRESENTATION AND PROCLAMATION [D. PRESENTATION(S)] OF OUR HOMETOWN HERO AND BANNER TO MISTER ALEXANDER MIGALA. COLONEL, IF YOU'D LIKE TO JOIN ME. WE CAN HAVE SOMEONE TAKE PHOTOS. [INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT. SO FOR ALL OF YOU WATCHING AT HOME AND IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME HERE, THESE HOMETOWN HEROES ARE REALLY IMPORTANT. ALL OF OUR HEROES AND FIRST RESPONDERS ARE REALLY IMPORTANT, AND SO IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, WHEN WE DO A PROCLAMATION, ESPECIALLY FOR SOMETHING LIKE TONIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ THE ENTIRE PROCLAMATION AND ALL OF THE WHEREASES, BECAUSE THIS ONE IS LONG AND FULL OF SERVICE. IT'S GOT TO BE A RECORD HERE, SO BEAR WITH ME AND I'LL TRY NOT TO GET TOO EMOTIONAL. SO FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, A PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS COLONEL ALEXANDER MIGALA GRADUATED FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS AT ARLINGTON WITH A DEGREE IN HISTORY AND FROM TEXAS COLLEGE OF OSTEOPATHIC MEDICINE IN FORT WORTH, WITH A COMMISSION IN THE MEDICAL CORPS IN 1993. HE COMPLETED AN INTERNAL MEDICINE INTERNSHIP AT WILLIAM BEAUMONT ARMY MEDICAL CENTER IN 1994, AND WHEREAS IN 2011 HE COMPLETED AN UNDERSEA AND HYPERBARIC MEDICINE FELLOWSHIP AT THE UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS SOUTHWESTERN MEDICAL CENTER, TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL, DALLAS, WHERE HE SUBSEQUENTLY BECAME ASSOCIATED FELLOWSHIP PROGRAM DIRECTOR, AND WHEREAS, AFTER LEAVING ACTIVE DUTY, ALEXANDER JOINED THE US ARMY RESERVE, WHERE HE SERVED AS A MILITARY ACADEMY LIAISON OFFICER FOR THE UNITED STATES MILITARY ACADEMY AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT COORDINATOR FOR THE TEXAS 26TH CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, AND WHEREAS, HE IS ALSO A MEDICAL TEAM MANAGER WITH TEXAS TASK FORCE ONE URBAN [00:05:05] SEARCH AND RESCUE WITH DEPLOYMENTS IN RESPONSES TO MULTIPLE DOMESTIC AND NATIONAL DISASTERS. ALEXANDER HAS SERVED AS VICE CHAIR OF THE URBAN SEARCH AND RESCUE MEDICAL WORKSHOP GROUP AND SUBGROUPS OF THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FEDERAL EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT ADMINISTRATION SINCE 2010 AND WHEREAS, ALEXANDER IS MARRIED TO HIS WIFE LEAH AND RESIDES IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS AND ARE THE PROUD PARENTS OF THREE CHILDREN AND SEVEN GRANDCHILDREN. NOW. THEREFORE, I, DEREK FRANCE, MAYOR IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR TOWN COUNCIL AND ALL OF OUR CITIZENS, DO HEREBY RECOGNIZE AND HONOR OUR OWN HOMETOWN HERO, ALEXANDER MIGALA, AND EXTEND TO HIM OUR HEARTFELT APPRECIATION FOR HIS DISTINGUISHED AND COMMENDED SERVICE. WE WISH HIM EVERY SUCCESS IN HIS FUTURE ENDEAVORS. PROCLAIMED AND SIGNED ON THIS 18TH DAY OF DECEMBER 2023. ALL RIGHT. SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO AN ANNOUNCEMENT AND PRESENTATION OF OUR 2023 OUTSTANDING CITIZEN AWARD. PRESENTING THIS EVENING IS OUR TOWN SECRETARY, MISS THERESA SCOTT. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND DON'T GO FAR. I'LL NEED YOUR HELP IN JUST A BIT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL AUDIENCE MY PRESENTATION IS VERY BRIEF. JUST WANT TO GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROGRAM, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, THE PURPOSE THAT IT SERVES AND THE CRITERIA, AND THEN WE'LL ANNOUNCE THE 2023 RECIPIENT OF THIS AWARD. SO SOME BACKGROUND INFORMATION. THE PROGRAM WAS CREATED IN 2014. YOU CAN SEE QUITE THE LIST OF FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN RECIPIENT OF THIS AWARD IN THE PAST IN THE VARIOUS CATEGORIES. THE PURPOSE OF THIS AWARD IS DESIGNED TO RECOGNIZE, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, AN OUTSTANDING CITIZEN OR GROUP THAT DEMONSTRATES EXEMPLARY SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. THIS AWARD AIMS TO RECOGNIZE THOSE WHO HAVE GIVEN UNSELFISHLY OF THEMSELVES AND SERVICE TO OTHERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND TO QUALIFY THEY MUST BE A FLOWER MOUND RESIDENT. OUR GROUP LOCATED IN FLOWER MOUND AND SHOULD DISPLAY OR MEET AT LEAST TWO OF THE FOLLOWING CRITERIA. STRIVE TO MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY. ENHANCE THE FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY AND THE LIVES OF ITS CITIZENS, OR ADDRESS OR FULFILL A COMMUNITY NEED OR CONCERN. THE RECIPIENT WILL RECEIVE A PERPETUAL WALL PLAQUE DISPLAYED IN THE TOWN HALL. JUST IMMEDIATELY BEHIND ME BY THE STAIRS IS WHERE THAT'S LOCATED WE WERE HAVE AN ENGRAVED ITEM AS WELL AS A BRICK. ENGRAVED BRICK AT THE LIBRARY WILL BE INSTALLED IN THEIR HONOR. NOW, THE MOMENT THAT YOU'VE BEEN WAITING FOR. THIS INDIVIDUAL HAS SHOWN ENTHUSIASTIC PARTICIPATION IN MANY ORGANIZATIONS, INCLUDING SERVING ON THE TOWN'S TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, PARKS BOARD AND ALTOGETHER FLOWER MOUND COMMISSION. SHE ALSO SERVED ON THE YOUTH AND FAMILY COUNSELING BOARD AS WELL AS THE TREASURER FOR HER HOA. THIS RECIPIENT GAVE GENEROUSLY OF HER TIME AND TALENTS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY SHE CALLED HOME AND LOVED SO MUCH. SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN DEVELOPING A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM AT THE TEXAS HEALTH PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL, AND HER SERVANT HEART EXPANDED TO ORGANIZATIONS SUCH AS THE RETIRED SENIORS VOLUNTEER PROGRAM, UNITED WAY, TEXAS A&M AGRILIFE EXTENSION SERVICES, AS WELL AS BEING AN ACTIVE MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH. THIS RECIPIENT WAS TIRELESS IN PROMOTING THE HEALTH AND WELL-BEING OF SENIOR CITIZENS, AND WAS A FOUNDING MEMBER AND PRESIDENT OF THE SENIORS IN MOTION AUXILIARY SINCE ITS INCEPTION IN 2019. THE SAME AUXILIARY ORGANIZED MANY SUCCESSFUL FUNDRAISERS THAT RESULTED IN OVER 100,000 TO THE FLOWER MOUND SENIOR CENTER. THIS RECIPIENT EARNED THE RESPECT AND ADMIRATION OF EVERYONE SHE MET, ALWAYS SMILING AND SHE NEVER KNEW A STRANGER. [00:10:02] FOR HER EXTRAORDINARY ACHIEVEMENTS AND SERVICE TO OUR COMMUNITY, IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO ANNOUNCE THE 2023 OUTSTANDING CITIZEN AWARD. RECIPIENT IS POSTHUMOUSLY AWARDED TO MARY KAY WALKER, AND ACCEPTING THIS EVENING IS HER SPOUSE, AL WALKER, AND HER TWO DAUGHTERS, KAREN AND ROBYN. PLEASE JOIN US. [INAUDIBLE] TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU'D LIKE. OKAY, SO I'M NOT GOING TO SAY A WHOLE LOT BECAUSE I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP IT TOGETHER MARY KAY WALKER. I MEAN, YOU CAN'T REALLY SAY MUCH MORE, AND WHEN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS WE KNEW IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION, AND AGAIN, VERY MUCH DESERVED AND WELL SERVED FOR THE WALKER FAMILY. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM E PUBLIC COMMENT. [E. PUBLIC COMMENT] AS A REMINDER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA THAT IS NOT MARKED AS A PUBLIC HEARING. ISSUES REGARDING DAILY OPERATIONAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS SHOULD FIRST BE DEALT WITH BY CALLING TOWN HALL AT (972) 874-6000 DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS. IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW, THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR ACTING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA. TO SPEAK TO YOUR TOWN COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THESE GREEN COMMENT FORMS. SPEAKERS TONIGHT WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES. A TONE WILL SOUND WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT AND AGAIN WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND PLEASE DIRECT ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS US, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL. JUST FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE, IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE NINE C ARDS OF RESIDENTS WHO DO NOT WISH TO SPEAK, HOWEVER, HAVE MARKED. IN SUPPORT OF ITEM K ONE ON OUR AGENDA. STARTING US OFF TONIGHT WILL BE MR. JOHN WELLS AND ANGIE COX, WHO ARE GOING TO SHARE THREE MINUTES, I GUESS, UNLESS I GET A SEPARATE CARD. I HAVE AN IDEA. I KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT. MAYOR, COUNCIL, TOWN STAFF ANGIE COX, 3209 SEATON COURT AND JOHN WELLS, 7360 FAIR LAKE ROAD. WE ARE HERE AS ON BEHALF OF THE SUMMIT CLUB AND THE WOMEN OF FLOWER MOUND, WHICH EACH OF US ARE MEMBERS OF EACH ORGANIZATION, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT THAT HAS BEEN SERVING THIS COMMUNITY FOR 50 YEARS STARTING IN 2024. IT'S HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT WE ARE HAVING A BIG EVENT ON FEBRUARY 3RD AT THE MARRIOTT HOTEL, [00:15:05] AND WE WOULD JUST LIKE TO INVITE EACH OF YOU TO COME AND HOPEFULLY THE TOWN MAYBE WILL GET A TABLE BUT SOME OF THE THINGS THE WOMEN OF FLOWER MOUND HAVE BEEN DOING IS WE DO THE EASTER SUNRISE SERVICE SERVING COFFEE, WE SERVE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND HELEN JOHNS, WHO'S ONE OF THE FOUNDING MEMBERS, SHE'S EVEN STILL HER DAUGHTER IS COMING TO OUR MEETING. SO IT'S QUITE A GREAT ORGANIZATION, AND I'M GOING TO LET JOHN TELL A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE EVENT, BUT WE DID SELL OUR FIRST TICKET. I DO ANNOUNCE THAT, AND MAYOR, THAT IS YOU, MAYOR FRANCE. SO WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR BEING THE FIRST TICKET SALE FOR OUR EVENT. SO BE A LOT OF FUN. JOHN, ON BEHALF OF THE LEADERSHIP OF THE SUMMIT CLUB, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT FOR COMMUNITY SUPPORT, AND I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU GUYS KNOW, EVERYONE KNOW THAT THE SUMMIT CLUB RAISES A LOT OF MONEY FOR NONPROFIT AND ALSO EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS WITHIN THE LOCAL AREA HERE, AND ONE OF THE BEST THINGS WE DID THIS YEAR, BEING RETIRED LAW ENFORCEMENT REALLY APPRECIATED THE FACT THAT THE MEMBERS WE COOKED TURKEYS AT THANKSGIVING AND PROVIDED THEM TO ALL THE POLICE AND FIRE STATIONS. THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR THINGS WE DID THIS YEAR THAT WE DO EVERY YEAR, AND WE DO A LOT OF GOOD SERVICE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'VE LEFT THE INFORMATION AT YOUR AT YOUR AREAS UP THERE AND WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUPPORT, AND IF UH, FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN COMING OUT AND CELEBRATING THE 50 YEARS WITH US, YOU CAN DO SO BY GOING ON OUR WEBSITE, SUMMITCLUB.ORG OR WOMENOFFLOWERMOUND.ORG. WE WOULD APPRECIATE ANY SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY CAN GIVE US, AND WE'RE GLAD TO BE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS. THANK YOU BOTH. NEXT TO SPEAK WILL BE DAVID SIMS. [INAUDIBLE] YES. MY NAME IS DAVID SIMS, ADDRESS 2408 BACHMAN DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS 75028 TONIGHT IS MY FIRST NIGHT ATTENDING CITY MEETING, AND I OWN A WASTE MANAGEMENT COMPANY. TRASH COMPANY AS WELL, HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT I'M ALL OVER IN FOUR STATES, AND I WANTED TO SEE. ARE THERE ANY MINORITY PARTICIPATION THAT YOU GUYS CAN HELP OUT WITH OR TO HELP SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND? BECAUSE I HAVE A GREAT PLAN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PUT IN ACTION TO BECOME A ZERO WASTE AS THEY'RE PUSHING THIS NARRATIVE BY 2030 COMPOSTING IS ON THE RISE AND RECYCLING IS BIG AS IT'S GOING TO GET. IT'S GOING TO GET EVEN BIGGER AND I OWN TEXAS WASTE MANAGEMENT, AND WE WORK WITH FEW SUBDIVISIONS IN DALLAS, BUT I KNOW HERE IN FLOWER MOUND REPUBLIC HAS A LOCK ON THIS AREA, AND I JUST WANT TO SEE WHAT CAN I DO AND HOW CAN I GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY, SINCE I LIVE IN FLOWER MOUND AND I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE AROUND HERE, AND I WOULD LIKE TO JUST BRING IT HOME AND JUST SEE, WHAT CAN WE DO? MY KIDS GO TO SCHOOL HERE, MY WIFE WORKS HERE, AND JUST WHATEVER, WHATEVER I CAN DO TO GET IN FRONT OF SOMEONE THAT CAN HELP ME WITH ANY TYPE OF GRANTS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, BECAUSE I HAVE A GREAT PLAN ON HOW TO BECOME ZERO WASTE, BECAUSE 90% OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO AND THAT WE USE IS 90% RECYCLABLE, MAYBE 10% OR EVEN MORE IS COMPOSTABLE. SO I'M JUST HERE TO LEARN AND PUT MY NAME AND NAME AND FACE IN THE PLACE. SO THAT'S IT. THANK YOU, MR. SIMS. APPRECIATE IT. NEXT UP WILL BE DANIEL [INAUDIBLE]. GOOD EVENING, SIR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR DANIEL [INAUDIBLE], 324 LOMA ALTA DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 75022 AND FUTURE RESIDENT OF HOPEFULLY FIRST RANCH. SO I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF AGENDA ITEM K ONE, IN REGARDS TO THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT I HAVE LONG SINCE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND AND I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE HEARD I WAS BORN HERE BEFORE. IT'S MY FIRST TIME TALKING IN FRONT OF THE MILLIONS OF VIEWERS BEHIND ME BUT I MOST IMPORTANTLY LIKE TO SAY THAT ONE OF THE MOTTOS IN THE BOY SCOUTS IS TO ALWAYS LEAVE THE PLACE BETTER THAN YOU FOUND IT, AND WE ALL KNOW PROGRESS IS COMING. THE MASTER PLAN HAS STRATEGIC DEVELOPMENT AND IMPROVEMENT IN PLACE, AND A PID SHOWS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE WONDERFUL STEWARD WE HAVE FOR A DEVELOPER OF [INAUDIBLE] FIRST, AND I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT BY DEVELOPING AND PUTTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE OUT THERE TO [00:20:01] ATTRACT THE LARGER BRANDS THAT CAN COME ALONG WITH THIS WONDERFUL PROPERTY AND DEVELOPMENT WE HAVE IN THE MASTER PLAN, IT REALLY WILL MAKE IT TO WHERE? I ALWAYS SAY FLOWER MOUND IS 25 MINUTES FROM EVERYTHING, AND THE WAY DEVELOPMENT IS GOING ACROSS DFW, WE'RE GOING TO BE THE HEART OF THE METROPLEX. WE KIND OF ALREADY ARE, AND SO TO HAVE THE WONDERFUL STRATEGIC GROWTH WE'VE BENEFITED FROM, AND TO HAVE THIS PID PUT IN PLACE TO BRING ABOUT THE FULL POTENTIAL OF FIRST RANCH IS WHAT I LOOK FORWARD TO ONE DAY LIVING THERE, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS APPROVE IT BECAUSE I'M FOR IT. I KNOW A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE ARE AS WELL. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. THANK YOU SIR, AND NEXT WE'LL HAVE MISS NICOLE SMITH-WOODARD. HELLO, I'M NICOLE SMITH WOODARD, 1917 PROTEA DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, ALSO A HOPEFUL FUTURE RESIDENT OF FIRST RANCH FOR THE RECORD. RIGHT, DAVE? I COME TO YOU TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF CROSS TIMBERS ROTARY, WHICH IS A SERVICE ORGANIZATION HERE IN TOWN WITH 136 MEMBERS WHO GENEROUSLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR TIME TO SERVING THIS COMMUNITY AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS SUPPORTING LOCAL AND GLOBAL CHARITY PROJECTS. WE ARE A BEST IN CLASS ROTARY CLUB AND ALSO AS A MEMBER OF THE FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER BOARD OF DIRECTORS. FLOWER MOUND CHAMBER, OF COURSE, BEING A FIVE STAR ACCREDITED CHAMBER, ONE OF THE ONLY THE TOP 3% IN THE US, AGAIN A BEST IN CLASS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND ARE VERY ACCUSTOMED TO BEING BEST IN CLASS, AND WHAT WE SEE AS AN OPPORTUNITY IS TO CONTINUE THAT WITH FIRST RANCH FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS DESERVE THE BEST AMENITIES, AND APPROVING THIS PID ENSURES WE RECEIVE THEM, SO IT WILL ENABLE THE INCLUSION OF TOP NOTCH AMENITIES THAT WILL ENHANCE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE AND MAKE OUR TOWN THAT'S ALREADY VERY APPEALING EVEN MORE APPEALING, AND THE BENEFITS OF THE PID EXTEND WELL BEYOND FIRST RANCH ITSELF. THEY POSITIVELY IMPACT THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF FLOWER MOUND AS IT RELATES TO THE RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT THAT WILL BE COMING HERE AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, AND OF COURSE, IT IS A LONG TERM DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, WHICH WE UNDERSTAND, AND SO IT'S ESSENTIAL TO CONSIDER ITS SUSTAINABILITY AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE IT WILL OFFER, NOT JUST NOW BUT FOR YEARS TO COME. SO BY APPROVING THE PID, WE DEMONSTRATE OUR TOWN WILL DEMONSTRATE OUR JOINT COMMITMENT TO A PROSPEROUS FUTURE FOR FLOWER MOUND. SO I, TOO, SINCERELY HOPE THAT WHEN THIS COMES TIME TO APPROVE THAT, YOU WILL THINK VERY SERIOUSLY ABOUT THE VALUE THAT IT BRINGS TO OUR COMMUNITY, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR TOWN. THANK YOU MA'AM, AND NEXT WE'LL HAVE MR. BRIAN WHITE. HELLO. ALL RIGHT, SO MY NAME IS BRIAN WHITE. WE LIVE AT 8650 CANYON CROSSING THAT'S IN LANTANA, BUT WE OWN A BUSINESS THAT JUST OPENED LAST WEEK RIGHT OFF OF LONG PRAIRIE. IT'S CALLED SUCCESS BASE RIGHT IN THE HEART OF FLOWER MOUND SO WHAT WE'RE THERE FOR IS SERVING THE FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY WE DO THAT WITH OUR BUSINESS. WE DO THAT AS PART OF CROSS TIMBERS ROTARY. WE'RE ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SUPPORT THE FIRST RANCH PROJECT FOR FOR A WIDE VARIETY OF REASONS WE LOVE THE WAY THAT FLOWER MOUND IS GROWING OUT TOWARDS THE WEST. WE THINK THAT WE NEED A PLAN AROUND THAT, AND WE NEED A PLAN TO PROVIDE AMAZING AMENITIES THOSE AMENITIES ARE NOT JUST FOR FIRST RANCH BUT THEY ARE FOR OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. SO SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPMENT, SUPPORTING THE DEVELOPER AS THEY PUT FIRST IN CLASS, BEST IN CLASS AMENITIES GIVES EVERYBODY ELSE A CHANCE TO ENJOY THEM AS WELL. IT'S NOT JUST THIS IS NOT A SHORT-TERM, SHORT-SIGHTED PROJECT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPING OVER THE NEXT 20 AND 30 YEARS. SO THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING AND YOUR VOTES TOWARD IT HAVE AN ABILITY TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON OUR AREA FOR DECADES TO COME, AND AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SUPPORT IT. SO JUST APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS AND ASK YOU TO VOTE FOR IT. THANK YOU, MR. WHITE. THERESA DO WE HAVE ANY MORE GREEN COMMENT CARDS? NOT FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. MA'AM, PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM. MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD. I'M SURE CHIEF HENLEY WILL HELP YOU WITH THAT AFTERWARDS. HE'S QUITE STUDIOUS. OH, YOU DID OKAY. [00:25:01] WELL. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. MY NAME IS LAURIE WALKER, 4913 KINGSWOOD DRIVE I'M HERE TONIGHT AS A 28 YEAR RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND AND THE PRESIDENT OF YOUR FIVE STAR ACCREDITED CHAMBER OF COMMERCE BUT I AM HERE TONIGHT TO LEND MY ENTHUSIASTIC SUPPORT FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE FIRST RANCH PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND ITS POTENTIAL TO BRING HIGH QUALITY BUSINESSES, JOBS AND AMENITIES TO THE WESTERN PART OF FLOWER MOUND. THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO SIGNIFICANTLY IMPACT AND ENHANCE THE OVERALL QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS. ONE OF THE KEY ASPECTS THAT I FIND PARTICULARLY PARTICULARLY COMMENDABLE IS THE INCLUSION OF PARKS AND TRAILS, WHICH WE ALL LOVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, AND THOSE WILL HAPPEN IN THE FIRST RANCH PROJECT. THESE AMENITIES WILL NOT ONLY CONTRIBUTE TO THE WELL-BEING OF LOCAL RESIDENTS, BUT ALSO HAVE A POSITIVE IMPACT ON OUR ENTIRE FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. PARKS AND TRAILS PROVIDE VALUABLE SPACES FOR RECREATION, EXERCISE, AND COMMUNITY GATHERINGS, WHICH IS WHAT FLOWER MOUND IS ABOUT. THOSE FOSTER A SENSE OF FLOWER MOUND, BELONGING AND PROMOTING A HEALTHIER LIFESTYLE. THE ADDITION OF HIGH QUALITY AMENITIES TO THE WESTERN PART OF FLOWER MOUND IS A PROACTIVE STEP TOWARDS CREATING THE VIBRANT AND INCLUSIVE COMMUNITY THAT WE ALL DESIRE. WELL-DESIGNED PARKS AND TRAILS HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO ENHANCE PROPERTY VALUES, ATTRACT NEW RESIDENTS AND BUSINESSES, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVERALL ECONOMIC VITALITY OF OUR AREA. AS A RESULT. THE FIRST RANCH PID HAS THE POTENTIAL TO NOT ONLY BENEFIT THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY, BUT ALSO A RIPPLE EFFECT TO OUR ENTIRE TOWN AS A WHOLE. MOREOVER, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THIS ALIGNS WITH OUR TOWN'S COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT THROUGH URBAN PLANNING. BY INCORPORATING GREEN SPACES AND RECREATIONAL AREAS, WE NOT ONLY ADDRESS THE CURRENT NEEDS OF OUR COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO INVEST IN THE LONG-TERM HEALTH OF THE PROSPERITY OF FLOWER MOUND. I URGE YOU, OUR FLOWER MOUND TOWN COUNCIL, TO STRONGLY CONSIDER THE FIRST RANCH PID AND RECOGNIZE ITS POTENTIAL TO ENHANCE THE WESTERN PART OF OUR TOWN AND THE POSITIVE I MPACT ON OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS WALKER. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING AND HEARING NONE. PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. PUBLIC COMMENT. SO WE'RE MOVING ON TO ANNOUNCEMENTS WE'LL START WITH MY LEFT WITH [F. ANNOUNCEMENTS] COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR. I JUST WANT TO WISH THE TOWN AND THE RESIDENTS. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. THAT'S ALL I GOT. MR. ENGEL. SO THE MAYOR AND I DID WREATHS ACROSS AMERICA ON SATURDAY, WHICH WAS IT'S PRETTY COOL. THERE WAS HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE OUT THERE TO DISTRIBUTE THE WREATHS IN FRONT OF THE VETERANS, AND IT DIDN'T TAKE VERY LONG AT ALL BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE DO IT, BUT IT WAS A VERY NICE CEREMONY, AND I WILL JOIN COUNCILMEMBER DREW IN WISHING EVERYBODY A MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR. SEE YOU NEXT YEAR. THANK YOU, SIR. MISS MARTIN. ECHOING MERRY CHRISTMAS, HAPPY NEW YEAR. MR. SCHIESTEL. ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE A LONG NIGHT, SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL MY LIST OF ANNOUNCEMENTS. THERE'S LOTS OF STUFF GOING ON IN THE TOWN. IF YOU FIND YOURSELF ON A SATURDAY MORNING WITH NOTHING TO DO, JUST GO TO FLOWER-MOUND.COM, CLICK ON OUR EVENTS CALENDAR OR GO TO ONE OF THE NUMEROUS NONPROFITS AND OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN TOWN. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING TO DO AND WITH THAT, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WISH EVERYONE A SAFE AND HAPPY HOLIDAY SEASON. A VERY MERRY CHRISTMAS AND ALL THE BEST AND A GREAT NEW YEAR. [G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT] WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR TOWN MANAGER FOR THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. WE GOT A COUPLE ITEMS THIS EVENING. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ASK OUR DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS, MELISSA DEMMITT, TO COME FORWARD WITH THIS BEING A HOLIDAY SEASON IT'S A GREAT TIME OF YEAR IN THE TOWN. PUTS ON A LOT OF GREAT EVENTS FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS OUR EMPLOYEES GIVING BACK EVEN MORE AND TAKING ON SERVICE PROJECTS, AND SO MELISSA IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH A BRIEF PRESENTATION, JUST TALKS ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE HOLIDAY SEASON JUST TO INFORM THE PUBLIC. [00:30:02] EXCELLENT. GOOD EVENING MA'AM. [INAUDIBLE] YOU HAVE MORE THAN THREE MINUTES IF YOU'D LIKE. I'LL GO QUICK. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON, BUT I WILL. I WILL MAKE IT BRIEF. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL. I'M GOING TO REVIEW ALL OF OUR ACTIVITIES AS JAMES MENTIONED, STARTING OFF, OF COURSE, WITH OUR CHRISTMAS PARADE AND TREE LIGHTING, WHICH WAS HELD ON DECEMBER 2ND I KNOW MANY OF YOU WERE THERE, AND THIS YEAR'S THEME WAS COWBOY CHRISTMAS, WHICH HAD 35 PARADE ENTRIES. WE SAW LOTS OF THAT THEME BEING CARRIED OUT OVER THE NIGHT WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF ABOUT 5000 PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE, AND OF COURSE, YOU PROBABLY SAW ANNA AND I WERE ON THE LIVE STREAM, WHICH HAS GATHERED MORE THAN 3400 VIEWS. SO THAT'S EXCITING A CANNED FOOD DRIVE FOR CCA WAS HELD AS PART OF THE EVENT AND IS CONTINUING AT THE CAC FRONT DESK, SO IF YOU WEREN'T THERE, YOU CAN STILL DROP ITEMS OFF BEFORE THEY'RE DONATED, AND OF COURSE, OUR LARGE BIG BLUE CHRISTMAS TREE WILL BE UP IN FRONT OF THE CAC THROUGH EARLY JANUARY, SO YOU CAN STOP BY AND SEE THAT AND HAVE A PHOTO OF THAT LATER IN THE PRESENTATION CONTINUING WITH PARKS AND REC EVENTS, WE HAD OUR ANNUAL BREAKFAST WITH SANTA EVENT ON DECEMBER 9TH. WE HAD 256 PARTICIPANTS THERE. THEY MADE CRAFTS, ENJOYED A HOT CHOCOLATE BAR, TOOK PICTURES WITH SANTA, AND HAD A SELFIE STATION MADE REINDEER FOOD. THE EVENT IS SPONSORED BY COSERV AND THE SUMMIT CLUB VOLUNTEERS EACH YEAR HELPING TO MAKE THE FOOD AND THEN OUR SENIORS IN MOTION MEMBERS ABOUT 90 OF THEM ATTENDED THE ANNUAL CHRISTMAS DINNER AND DANCE WITH AN ITALIAN DINNER, FOLLOWED BY A PERFORMANCE BY JAZZLAND BAND. SANTA AROUND TOWN IS OUR NEW EVENT THIS YEAR, WHICH BLEW UP ON SOCIAL MEDIA FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER. OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HELPED SANTA MAP OUT HIS ROUTES FOR CHRISTMAS EVE BY TOURING HIM AROUND TOWN ON A FIRE TRUCK. IT HAPPENED EVERY NIGHT LAST WEEK FROM DECEMBER 11TH TO 17TH, STARTING AT 6 P.M., AND IT WAS EXTREMELY POPULAR. WE'VE RECEIVED A TON OF PRAISE ON SOCIAL MEDIA, AND I'M SURE OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS RECEIVED A LOT OF IN-PERSON PRAISE AND WE DEFINITELY LEARNED SOME GREAT LESSONS FOR NEXT YEAR. SO WE APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING PATIENT WITH US AS WE WORKED OUT ROUTES AND EXTENDED THE EVENT SO WE CAN COME BACK EVEN BETTER IN FUTURE YEARS. SANTA COPS IS OUR ANNUAL PROGRAM DESIGNED TO MAKE CHRISTMAS BRIGHTER FOR CHILDREN WHO MAY OTHERWISE GO WITHOUT AND THEY HELPED. OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HELPED APPROXIMATELY 233 KIDS THIS YEAR. SO CHILDREN 11 AND UNDER ATTENDED AN EVENT AT THE SENIOR CENTER AND RECEIVED THEIR PRESENTS THAT A POLICE OFFICERS HAD PURCHASED FOR THEM, AND CHILDREN 12 AND UP WERE ABLE TO SHOP WITH A POLICE OFFICER FOR THEIR GIFTS AT TARGET, AND THAT'S ALWAYS A REALLY GREAT EVENT, AND YOU PROBABLY SAW FUNDRAISERS FOR IT THROUGHOUT THE SEASON, INCLUDING THE HOLIDAY THEMED VERSION OF COFFEE WITH A COP, WHICH IS COCOA WITH THE POPO, [CHUCKLING] WHICH HAPPENED AT MARKET STREET ON DECEMBER 5TH AND INCLUDED A GIFT CARD FUNDRAISER FOR SANTA COPS AND WAS WELL ATTENDED. THIS IS JUST A PHOTO OF SOME OF THE ATTENDEES THERE THAT EVENING AND THEN HERE AT THE TOWN, WE'VE STARTED A TRADITION WITH JAMES'S ARRIVAL OF THE LEADERSHIP TEAM DOING AN ANNUAL SERVICE ACTIVITY AND THIS YEAR WE VOLUNTEERED AT THE HEART OF CITY HEART OF THE CITY, FOOD PANTRIES AND OTHER STAFF MEMBERS OUTSIDE OF OUR LEADERSHIP TEAM WERE INVITED TO PARTICIPATE, AND IN TOTAL, WE FILLED 74 TWO HOUR SHIFTS AT THE PANTRIES DOING LOTS OF WORK FROM STOCKING SHELVES OR ASSISTING CLIENTS WITH SHOPPING. THESE ARE JUST SOME OF THE GROUPS OF TOWN STAFF WHO VOLUNTEERED, AND IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY FUN TIME. I KNOW A LOT OF EMPLOYEES ARE LOOKING TO GET INVOLVED WITH HEART OF THE CITY MOVING FORWARD, AND WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM THAT IT WAS VERY HELPFUL TO HAVE US THERE. SO WE WERE GLAD TO DO THAT. IT WAS VERY FUN AND THEN TO FINISH OUT THE HOLIDAY SEASON MOVING FORWARD, WE PARKS AND REC IS OFFERING FREE CHRISTMAS TREE RECYCLING DECEMBER 26TH THROUGH JANUARY 7TH AT DEPOT PARK, AND SO THAT'S FOR RESIDENTS ONLY TREES CAN'T BE FLOCKED AND MUST HAVE ALL THEIR NAILS AND DECORATIONS REMOVED. SO I KNOW WE'RE NOTLOOKING FORWARD TO TAKING OUR TREES DOWN YET, BUT ONCE WE'RE THERE PLEASE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS, AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE THE MULCH, YOU CAN BRING YOUR OWN CONTAINERS. SO FOR MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN CALL (972) 874-6425, AND THEN OF COURSE WE'LL HAVE INFORMATION UP ON OUR WEBSITE AND BE PUSHING IT OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA STARTING NEXT WEEK. SO THAT IS ALL UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. LOTS GOING ON. EXCELLENT JOB WELL DONE. THANK YOU JAMES AND STAFF FOR ALL THAT WE DO FOR THE TOWN, AND. THE SANTA AROUND TOWN WAS A BIG HIT. YEAH. LOTS OF TEXT MESSAGES AND COMMENTS. YES, A LOT OF LOGISTICS WENT INTO THAT AND CERTAINLY WE KNOW HOW WE CAN IMPROVE NEXT YEAR, BUT I COMMEND CHIEF HENLEY FOR PUTTING TOGETHER A COOL CONCEPT AND ALLOWS US TO PLUG INTO THE COMMUNITY, AND I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL SHOUT OUT TO OUR DIRECTOR OF BUDGET SERVICES, KAY WILKINSON. SHE'S THE ONE THAT GOT US IN CONTACT WITH HEART OF THE CITY, AND THAT'S A COOL TRADITION. JUST TO TAKE TIME OUT OF YOUR AFTERNOON TO BLESS OTHERS, AND THERE ARE [00:35:02] PEOPLE IN NEED IN THE COMMUNITY, AND IT'S JUST ALWAYS GREAT DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON TO STEP UP AND DO THAT, AND THE LAST ITEM THAT I HAVE, JUST REAL BRIEFLY, I WANTED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON TROTTER PARK. FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T AWARE, TROTTER PARK IS LOCATED ON CROSS TIMBERS BETWEEN FLOWER MOUND ROAD AND [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A UNDEVELOPED PARK RIGHT NOW, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY RECOGNIZE IT THAT WHEN THE BOND INITIATIVE WENT FORWARD FOR A TENNIS CENTER, THAT WAS THE CONTEMPLATED LOCATION FOR THE TENNIS CENTER, OBVIOUSLY THAT DIDN'T PASS. WE'RE NOT DOING A TENNIS CENTER THERE, BUT WE STILL NEED TO DEVELOP THE PARK, AND SO WE STARTED THE MASTER PLANNING PROCESS FOR THAT PARK BACK IN NOVEMBER WE ENGAGED STAKEHOLDERS IN THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOOD, ROCK POINT CHURCH, EXCUSE ME, AND A COUPLE OTHER LOCATIONS. WE'RE NOW AT A PART IN THAT PROCESS WHERE WE'RE OPENING IT UP TO THE BROADER PUBLIC, AND SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE IN ATTENDANCE TODAY, THERE IS A CARD OUT ON THE TABLE WITH A QR CODE THAT TAKES YOU TO THE WEBSITE. THERE'S A SURVEY ON THERE, AND ALSO IN JANUARY THE 9TH, WE'RE HAVING A TOWN HALL MEETING AT THE ROCK POINT CHURCH AT 6 P.M., AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO PROVIDE INPUT ABOUT WHAT AMENITIES GOING IN THAT PARK, AND AGAIN, NO TENNIS CENTER, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE DO CONTEMPLATE IS PUTTING A PAIR OF TENNIS COURTS AND PICKLEBALL COURTS AT THAT LOCATION, AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO DO SO IN OTHER STRATEGIC LOCATIONS AROUND OUR PARK SYSTEM. SO JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT OPPORTUNITY IS OUT THERE FOR THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED. IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY MORE INFORMATION, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE FLOWERMOUND.COM/[INAUDIBLE] AND YOU CAN FIND MORE INFORMATION ON THAT. SO WITH THAT MAYOR, THAT IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT. THANK YOU, MR. CHILDERS, AND WITH THAT WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM H, FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. [H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)] DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? I'LL START WITH MR. SCHIESTEL. MISS MARTIN. ALL RIGHT, SO BASED ON ONE OF THE COMMENTS THIS EVENING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT PROCUREMENTS AND THINGS I ALWAYS BRING UP. LOW PRICE TECHNICALLY ACCEPTABLE AND IN LIEU OF BEST VALUE. SO I'M NOT NECESSARILY SURE THIS NEEDS TO BE A NEW AGENDA ITEM, BUT I WOULD LIKE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A DISCUSSION WITH STAFF. OR MAYBE STAFF CAN PROVIDE SOME INPUT ON SET ASIDES AND WHAT WE'VE DONE TO TRY TO SORT OF FOLLOW SOME OTHER GUIDELINES THAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS WHEN IT COMES TO ENSURING THAT THERE'S A GROUP OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE INCLUDED IN SOLICITATIONS OR GIVEN, P ARTICULAR CONTRACTS OF A CERTAIN VALUE OR THEN DESIGNATED AS A SMALL BUSINESS SET ASIDE OR DISABLED VETERAN OWNED BUSINESS SET ASIDE, MINORITY OWNED, HA. THERE'S ACTUALLY EIGHT, AND I COULD BE HAPPY TO POINT YOU GUYS TO WHERE THOSE ARE LISTED BUT AGAIN, COUNCIL I'M NOT SURE IF WE NEED A FULL AGENDA ITEM AND DISCUSSION ON IT. I KNOW OUR WORK SESSIONS ARE KIND OF GETTING FULL, BUT AT LEAST MAYBE AGAIN, I KNOW STAFF SOME OF YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN HERE TEN PLUS YEARS, SO MAYBE WE TRIED IT. MAYBE IT DOESN'T WORK. I WOULD BE OPEN TO SEEING WHAT WE CAN DO TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I DON'T KNOW IF IT NEEDS TO BE A FULL AGENDA ITEM, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE A WORK SESSION ITEM AT SOME POINT JUST TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WE'VE DONE HISTORICALLY, AND LIKE YOU SAID, WHAT WORKED, WHAT DIDN'T WORK JUST TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. YEAH, I THINK THAT WORK SESSION ITEM WOULD BE GOOD FOR THAT, AND THEN ALSO, IN ADDITION TO WHAT WE HAVE DONE, WHAT WE'VE EVALUATED IN THE PAST, ARE THERE OTHER RECOMMENDATIONS THAT STAFF HAS THAT WE SHOULD LOOK AT ALONG WHAT THE MAYOR JUST MENTIONED THAT WE OUGHT TO CONSIDER? EXCELLENT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO PUT THAT ON A WORK SESSION BASED ON JUST PULLING UP THE CALENDAR IN MY BRAIN. WE PROBABLY HAVE SOME TIME IN JUNE SO AGAIN, I'M NOT TRYING TO ADD TO THE LEVEL OF EFFORT THAT STAFF HAS FROM COUNCIL EVERY DAY BUT IF WE COULD JUST MAKE A NOTE, JAMES, TO, TO PUT THAT ON SOMEWHERE IN THE FUTURE WOULD BE GREAT. ABSOLUTELY, AND THE ONE THING THAT I'LL POINT OUT IS, IS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE'VE TALKED ABOUT PUBLICLY, JUST ABOUT HOW THE BIDDING PROCESS WORK AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I'LL GO AHEAD AND POINT OUT THAT OUR STRATEGIC SERVICES TEAM IS ALREADY WORKING WITH OUR PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS CIP, AND THEY'RE DOING SOME ANALYSIS. SO THAT PROCESS IS ALREADY STARTED. WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH THEM TO KIND OF EXPAND IT TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS YOU JUST SHARED WITH US. SO WE COULD ENVISION THE FEBRUARY, AND I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A MARCH WORK SESSION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE OF SPRING BREAK, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE IT ON THE FORECAST IN THE UPCOMING WORK SESSION TO BE ABLE TO TALK TO THAT, AND AGAIN, IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PROVIDE BACKGROUND ON WHAT OUR CURRENT PRACTICES ARE, AND THE ONE THING THAT I'LL NOTE, OUR TEAM DOES A GREAT JOB, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO KIND OF ARTICULATE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS AND SEE IF THERE'S AREAS FOR IMPROVEMENT THERE. SO WE'RE ALREADY WELL AT WORK WITH THIS MAYOR. EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SIR. [I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS] WITH THAT WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS. [00:40:02] WE HAVE A MEETING THAT WAS CANCELED ON JANUARY 1ST DUE TO THE NEW YEAR'S EVE HOLIDAY OUR NEXT MEETING ON THE 15TH, IS BEING RESCHEDULED TO TUESDAY THE 16TH DUE TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR HOLIDAY. I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER DREW IS ONLY AVAILABLE TO ATTEND THE JANUARY 16TH MEETING REMOTELY AND IS POSSIBLY TENTATIVE ABOUT DOING THE SAME FOR JANUARY 18TH WORK SESSION COUNCILMEM BER DREW, IS THAT RIGHT, OR HAS PLANS CHANGED? YEAH. OKAY. WELL, EVERYONE ELSE THAT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR JANUARY 16TH AND 18TH MEETINGS. IT'S A DOUBLE WHAMMY THAT WEEK. TUESDAY, THURSDAY. ALL RIGHT, AND MAYOR WE'LL GET WITH COUNCILMEMBER DREW REGARDING THE REMOTE PARTICIPATION AS FAR AS WHAT'S ON THE DOCKET, ON THE AGENDA, AND SEE WHAT THE NECESSITY IS ON HOW THAT WORKS. SO WE'LL WORK WITH THEM ON THAT. PERFECT. WE CAN HAVE A LITTLE TV MONITOR LIKE WE DID FOR COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR, WHOSE FACE. SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE ARE CALLING AN AUDIBLE. [M. CLOSED MEETING] WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO CLOSED SESSION SO IF YOU ARE HERE FOR ONE OF THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS, THIS IS PROBABLY GOING TO TAKE US 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR TO DO THAT. SO THE TIME IS NOW 6:41, AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS CONVENING INTO A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTIONS 071, 072, 074 AND 087. [N. RECONVENE] THE TIME IS NOW 7:37 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN MEETING. EVENING. SO WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM J CONSENT. [J. CONSENT ITEM(S)] DOES ANYONE WISH TO MOVE ANY CONSENT ITEMS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH NINE. I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS J ONE THROUGH NINE AS PRESENTED SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. SORRY. I DIDN'T LOOK. CONSENT ITEMS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. [K.1. Furst Ranch PID Presentation - Presentation and discussion of a proposed Public Improvement District for the Furst Ranch development project.] ITEM NUMBER ONE FIRST RANCH PID PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JAMES REAL QUICK FOR INTRODUCE AN INTRODUCTION OF MARY PETTY. THANK YOU MAYOR. APPRECIATE IT. I'M GONNA ASK MARY PETTY, OUR CONSULTANT WITH P3 WORKS, TO COME FORWARD. MARY HAS BEEN AN INTEGRAL PART OF THIS PROCESS OF EDUCATING, NOT ONLY ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WE'VE HAD UP TO THIS POINT, BUT OBVIOUSLY THE PID DISCUSSION THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS EVENING. SO MARY IS GOING TO KICK US OFF WITH JUST SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL MORE CONTEXT IN REGARDS TO A PID YOU CAN ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF HER STAFF AT THAT POINT, AND THEN AFTER THAT, WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE APPLICANT TO DO A PRESENTATION, AND THEN AFTERWARDS WE'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY. YOU YOU NEED MARY TO COME UP AND RESPOND TO ANYTHING THAT WAS SHARED BY THE APPLICANT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEKING TODAY IS JUST TO HAVE A CONVERSATION BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE AND WE'LL JUST GO FROM THERE. SO WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARY. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. MAYOR AND COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING. GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU THIS IS SPECIFIC TO A PID APPLICATION THAT WAS RECEIVED BY THE APPLICANT, FIRST RANCH. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH SOME DETAILS RELATIVE TO THE PID AND THEN TO THEIR APPLICATION, RELATIVE TO WHAT THEY'RE BUILDING AND CONSTRUCTING. THAT WILL BE LATER WHEN THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE COMES FORWARD. SO FIRST, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW AND REMEMBER, THIS IS COMPLICATED. A LOT OF DETAILS, A LOT OF INFORMATION, AND SO THERE'S SEVERAL THINGS WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH. SOME OF IT'S BASED ON FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN FROM STAFF JUST TO MAKE SURE THERE'S CLARITY FOR YOU ALL AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE HAVE COVERED A GREAT DEAL OF DETAIL OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS NOT ONLY RELATED TO THE PID BUT ALSO RELATED TO THE TIRZ, AND SO WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THE PID AND THE TIRZ ARE IDENTICAL AND THEY'RE DOING THE SAME SORTS OF THINGS, AND SO WHAT I WANT TO DO, FIRST OF ALL, IS TALK ABOUT PRINCIPLES AND PROCESS. SO OUR PRINCIPLES ARE THE SAME AS IT RELATES TO THE TIRZ AND IT RELATES TO THE PROCESS OF THE TIRZ AND THE PID. SO YOU SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE THAT THE TOWN OBLIGATIONS ARE GOING TO BE PAID FROM THE TOWN'S REVENUES. SO IMPACT FEES AND THE TOURS REVENUES, BUT A DEVELOPER'S OBLIGATION IS CONTEMPLATED TO BE PAID BY THE DEVELOPER. AND IF A PID IS GRANTED, IT'S ONLY PID ASSESSMENTS ON THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY THAT THE DEVELOPER WOULD CONTROL. SO IT'S THEIR DOLLARS THAT WOULD BE PAYING FOR THEIR OBLIGATION. [00:45:03] THERE'S NO DOUBLE DIPPING FROM THOSE FUNDING SOURCES AND SO ALL USE OF PUBLIC FUNDS, WHETHER IT'S THE TIRZ OR THE IMPACT FEES OR EVEN THE PID DOLLARS, ARE STILL UNDER THE COUNCIL'S CONTROL, AND SO THE PROCESS WOULD BE THAT THOSE ITEMS PLANS, ENGINEERING SPECIFICALLY ARE SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN STAFF. THEY REVIEW THOSE AND THEN THEY DETERMINE IF ANYTHING IS ELIGIBLE TO BE REIMBURSED, AND THEN AGAIN, I POINTED OUT THE PID ASSESSMENTS ONLY COME FROM THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY, AND SO THEY WOULDN'T COME FROM GENERAL FUND REVENUES OR ANY OTHER REVENUES OF THE TOWN, AND THEN THE 372, THE PID STATUTE REQUIRES FULL TRANSPARENCY AND DISCLOSURE ABOUT WHAT'S BEING SPENT, AND WHEN THERE'S A LITTLE SECTION AT THE BOTTOM, THE SAME PROJECTS COST ARE NOT FUNDED BY BOTH THE PID AND THE TIRZ. YOU COULD HAVE ONE GIANT LINE THAT A PORTION IS FUNDED FROM ONE COMPONENT, LIKE IMPACT FEES, AND THE OTHER PORTION IS FUNDED BY THE TIRZ, BUT YOU'RE NOT EVER GOING TO HAVE DOUBLE DIPPING WHERE $2 OR PAYING FOR $1 IN COSTS. SO JUST SOME CLARIFICATIONS HERE AND SINCE. TOWN MANAGER SAID. IT'S A CONVERSATION. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER IT ANY TIME BEFORE WE MOVE ON. SO THESE ARE THE COSTS. SO JUST A VISUAL. SO YOU CAN SEE YOU'VE GOT PID DIRECT COSTS WHICH WE'LL DEFINE IN A MINUTE. THE TIRZ CIP PLAN COSTS THE PID ZONE COSTS AND THEN ALL THE VERTICAL PRIVATE DOLLARS. SO THOSE FIRST THREE PID DIRECTORS AND PID ZONE ARE GENERALLY THE 2023 ESTIMATED COSTS FOR ROADS, WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE, BUT THE VALUE THAT WOULD GO TO ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES ONCE CONSTRUCTION WAS COMPLETED WOULD BE ALL OF THE VALUES. SO REGARDLESS OF WHEN WHERE THE FUNDING SOURCES CAME FROM, ULTIMATELY IT BUILD OUT. THE TOWN IS RECEIVING THE BENEFIT OF ALL OF THOSE VALUE COMPONENTS. SO IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, SO IS THE COUNTY. SO THE DOLLARS AT THE BOTTOM TOTAL ABOUT $1.4 BILLION IN COSTS. THAT COMES FROM PART OF THE APPLICATION. SOME OF IT ALSO COMES FROM THE CIP PLAN AND ITS ESTIMATES. SO JUST RECOGNIZING THE BREADTH OF THE COSTS THAT ARE BEING CONTEMPLATED HERE IS AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT AS WELL. IT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED THAT ALL OF THESE TOOLS WILL BE ABLE TO PAY FOR ALL THOSE $1.4 BILLION IN PUBLIC COSTS, BUT JUST RECOGNIZING THAT THOSE ARE THE VARIOUS TOOLS, AND THOSE ARE THE COST DEFINITIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. QUESTIONS SO FAR? CAN YOU FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS YOU KNOW. YEAH. THE MILLIONS THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME. YEAH GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION OF WHAT GOES INTO EACH ONE OF THOSE BUCKETS THAT'S DISPLAYED ON THIS SLIDE. YES I CAN. THAT'S A GREAT SEGUE. SO PID COSTS. SO WE HAD A BUCKET CALLED PID DIRECT. SO PID DIRECT INFRASTRUCTURE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT BENEFITS INDIVIDUAL LOTS OR INDIVIDUAL PARCELS. SO UP THERE IN THE TOP RIGHT HAND YOU SEE LINES INSIDE OF A CONSTRUCTION PHASE THAT SEEM TO FRONT OR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. SO THOSE WOULD BE DIRECT COSTS. NOW PID ZONE IMPROVEMENTS ARE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. THEY BENEFIT A LARGER AREA. SO IN THIS EXAMPLE YOU SEE A GREEN LINE. NORTH OF THAT GREEN LINE IS PROPERTY THAT'S NOT EVEN WITHIN THE PID. THAT ROAD IS GOING TO BENEFIT IT. THAT ROAD ALSO BENEFITS THE AREA THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW, THAT PHASE TWO, BUT IT ALSO CONNECTS TO ANOTHER ROAD THAT DEVELOPS, THAT BENEFITS ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY WITHIN THE PID, BUT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY BENEFITING THE ONE IMPROVEMENT AREA THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED. SO ZONE IMPROVEMENTS ALMOST ACT LIKE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEY'RE IN A SMALLER AREA, NOT ACROSS AN ENTIRE SIGNIFICANT PART OF THE TOWN, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. SO THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE DIRECT AND THOSE ZONE IS HOW MUCH THAT BENEFITS OR HOW MUCH THAT INFRASTRUCTURE BENEFITS AN AREA. SO THESE THESE COSTS ARE GENERALLY PAID FOR BY DEVELOPER VERSUS WHAT WE WOULD LOOK FOR IN THE TIRZ AS AS FAR AS TOWN INFRASTRUCTURE COST. CORRECT. SO THE WAY YOU HAVE STRUCTURED YOUR TIRZ IS ONLY GOING TO BE COVERING INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S CLASSIFIED ON YOUR CIP PLAN OR CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT TO A MASSIVE AREA. YOUR PID ZONE IMPROVEMENTS, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS SO LARGE, YOUR PID ZONE IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BENEFITS TO LARGER AREAS, BUT YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BASINS WITHIN THIS LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S REQUESTING A PID, AND SO IT'S NOT UNUSUAL TO SEE THIS ZONE DEFINITION INSIDE OF A PID BECAUSE IT BENEFITS MORE THAN JUST ONE IMPROVEMENT AREA. JUST A REMINDER THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD BE BUILT TO THE TOWN STANDARDS. IT WOULD BE DEDICATED TO THE TOWN. THEREFORE, IT BECOMES AN ASSET ON THE TOWN'S BOOKS AS VALUE. IT IS NOT ANTICIPATED THAT ALL THESE COSTS CAN BE COVERED BY THE PID, SO THE DEVELOPER [00:50:01] IS NOT EVEN SEEKING 100% OF THE COST, BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY IT WOULD FINANCIALLY BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN IT. JUST ALSO ANOTHER REMINDER THE PID DOES NOT. THE PID FUNDING DOES NOT UTILIZE ANY OF THE CITY'S GOS, COS, TAX BASED SALES TAX. IT IS A NEW REVENUE SOURCE THAT IS GENERATED BY PLACING A LEVY ON THE LANDOWNER'S PROPERTY AT THE LANDOWNER'S BEHEST. NOW. COUNCILMEMBER I DIDN'T ANSWER ALL OF IT. I TALKED ABOUT PID DIRECT AND PID ZONE, AND THEN YOU BROUGHT UP THE TIRZ WOULD BE A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT OR CIP. THE LAST BUCKET IS VERTICAL PRIVATE AND THAT'S ALL PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT. SO DID I COVER THAT PIECE FOR YOU SUFFICIENTLY? YOU DID FOR ME, YES. OKAY. MARY, IN A SMALLER DEVELOPMENT, WOULD ANY OF THOSE PID ZONE COSTS TYPICALLY BE BORNE BY THE TOWN, OR WERE THEY ALWAYS BE PAID FOR BY THE DEVELOPER? IN THAT PARTICULAR THIS WAS PUBLIC RECORDS AND I AND I PULLED IT SO THAT PID ZONE IMPROVEMENT RIGHT THERE, THAT GREEN ROAD WAS ACTUALLY CONSIDERED IMPACT FEE ELIGIBLE IN THAT CITY AND SO THAT CITY PAID FOR A PORTION OF THAT ROAD, AND THEN THE PID MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS PAID FOR THE OTHER PORTION OF THAT. THAT ORANGE ROAD WAS CONSIDERED A BENEFIT TO BOTH IMPROVEMENT AREAS, AND SO IT WAS CLASSIFIED AS A MAJOR IMPROVEMENT COST, IN WHICH THE ENTIRE PID BORE THOSE COSTS. SO JUST TO GET OUR HEAD AROUND TRADITIONAL ZONING AND LAND USES, TYPICALLY YOU HAVE AREAS WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT OCCURS SIDE BY SIDE OR ACROSS THE STREET, AND YOU DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTROL WHAT THOSE PIECES LOOK LIKE. YOU CAN ZONE THEM, BUT BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE HAS REMOVED YOUR ABILITY TO ENFORCE BUILDING STANDARDS, YOU HAVE YES, YOU HAVE THE INABILITY NOW TO FORCE COHESIVE LOOKING FACADES AND DEVELOPMENT. SO LAND USE IS ONE THING. BUILDING FACADES AND WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IS ANOTHER. SO AS LONG AS THE MINIMUM STATE STANDARDS ARE BUILT, YOU COULD RECALL, YOU COULD END UP WITH NOTHING BUT METAL BUILDINGS. I DON'T THINK YOU'LL GET THAT HERE, BUT JUST TO UNDERSTAND THE PIECE OF IT ON THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. SO THEY HAVE THE OBLIGATION TO USE SIMILAR MATERIALS OR LOOKS, BUT YOU COULD HAVE A WHOLE DEVELOPMENT OF AWARD WINNING, MASTER PLANNED METAL BUILDINGS AND SO YOU'VE GOT THIS PLANNED ZONE AND YOU'VE GOT SOME PRIVATE DOLLARS. THE DEVELOPERS ASK FOR VERTICAL VALUE TO BE CONSIDERED AS SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN, AND SO THEY WANT HIGHER STANDARDS. THEY WANT TO BRING IN HIGHER BUILDING MATERIALS. THEY WANT TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S A LOT LARGER. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT IMPACT FEES BEING UTILIZED. YOUR TIRZ DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE USED TO COVER YOUR OBLIGATIONS, AND NOW THEY'RE ASKING FOR A PID. WELL, WHEN THEY ASK FOR A PID, YOU THE TOWN CAN HAVE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN WHICH YOU SAY, OH, THAT'S GREAT. WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACTUALLY OBLIGATE YOU TO NOT JUST BUILD AWARD WINNING METAL BUILDINGS, BUT NOW YOU'RE GOING TO BUILD MASONRY, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS LOOK AND THIS FEEL. YOU'RE GOING TO ACCOMPLISH THESE COMPONENTS. NOW, DO WE THINK YOU WOULD PROBABLY GET THAT ANYWAY? PERHAPS, BUT THIS IS A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION THAT THE REST OF THE DEVELOPERS, BECAUSE YOU WON'T NECESSARILY HAVE JUST ONE DEVELOPER, THEY MAY SELL OFF TO OTHERS. THE REST OF THE DEVELOPERS WILL BE OBLIGATED BY THAT ONE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THIS PID IS. WELL, BEFORE I GO ON. ANY QUESTIONS? SO LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PID IN YOUR TOWN. SO LET'S TALK ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN ABOUT WHAT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHAT THE INTERNET SEARCHES SAY. IT'S NOT WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE. IT'S NOT WHAT YOUR OTHER PID HAS DONE. IT'S NOT A GIVEAWAY TO THE DEVELOPER, AND IT'S NOT A LOSS OF TOWN CONTROL. WHAT IT IS, IS UTILIZING WHAT THE FRAMEWORK OF THE STATUTE SAYS, UTILIZING AND FURTHER NARROWING IT BASED ON PID BEST PRACTICES, AND THEN EVEN FURTHER NARROWING IT BY BASED ON ON WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S REQUESTING. YOU TAKE YOUR FLOWER MOUND POLICY, WHICH IS THAT BLUE BOX, AND YOU CRAFT A PID AND THE POLICY COMPONENTS THAT ARE UNIQUE TO THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE ABLE TO DO WHEN YOU HAVE A DEVELOPER REQUEST A PID, BECAUSE YOU DON'T LOSE CONTROL OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING INSIDE THAT PID. ALL THESE COMPONENTS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN ACCOUNTABILITY, POLICY DIRECTION, TRANSPARENCY AND TO YOUR STAFF THE DETAILED SUBMITTALS SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S BEING CONSTRUCTED. ALL OF THOSE COMPONENTS ENSURE THE FOUR QUADRANTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT CIRCLE. BEST PRACTICES FOR FINANCIAL. PERFORMANCE MEASURES YOUR OVERSIGHT AND ENSURING SUCCESS. [00:55:03] SO IN THE LIGHT COLOR, YOU SEE THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS THAT ACCOMPLISH ALL OF THOSE THINGS. SO YOU SEE HOW MANY TIMES DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND PID AGREEMENTS SHOW UP. YOU'RE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THOSE DOCUMENTS. SO IT DOES MATTER HOW THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE DRAFTED, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOUR POLICY DIRECTION DOES SHOW UP IN THAT, AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE STAFF AND YOU HAVE CONSULTANTS THAT ARE EXPERIENCED IN THAT ARE ABLE TO DELIVER THAT MULTIPLE AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT WHO YOUR PLAYERS ARE IN A MINUTE. SO WE MENTIONED THAT TRANSPARENCY WAS A BIG COMPONENT OF THE PIDS. THESE ARE THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS THAT USUALLY ACCOMPANY A PID TRANSACTION, AND THIS IS SPECIFIC TO A BONDED PID TRANSACTION BECAUSE EVENTUALLY EVEN IF IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT PID, OFTENTIMES IT'S A REIMBURSEMENT PID THAT HAS BONDS ON THE BACKSIDE, AND THOSE BONDS, REMEMBER, AREN'T YOUR CO/GOS. THEY ARE SPECIAL REVENUE BONDS TIED TO THE PIDS, BUT YOU HAVE ALL THESE CITY DOCUMENTS WHICH TALK ABOUT HOW THE PUBLIC DOLLARS ARE FUNDED, AND THEN YOU HAVE THESE OTHER DOCUMENTS THAT ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO HOW THE DEVELOPMENT IS GOING, PRIVATE DOLLARS THAT ARE PROVIDED TO COMPLETE THE PROJECT AND THEN THE ASSESSMENT COMPONENTS. SO THERE ARE MULTIPLE OPPORTUNITIES AND WAYS FOR THE TOWN AND STAFF AND EVEN THE PUBLIC TO STAY ABREAST OF THE DEVELOPMENT, WHAT'S GOING ON AND HOW IT'S PROGRESSING. QUESTIONS ON ANY OF THESE DOCUMENTS. ANOTHER VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENT IS A HOME BUYER DISCLOSURE, AND I SAY A DOCUMENT, BUT IT'S A SERIES OF ACTIONS. YOU HAVE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY THE PROPERTY TAX CODE, AND THEN YOU HAVE OTHERS THAT ARE OPTIONAL THAT THE COUNCIL CAN PLACE ON THE DEVELOPER. YOU WOULD PLACE THOSE ON THE DEVELOPER THROUGH A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, BUT A BINDING CONTRACT IS ENTERED INTO AT THE VERY ONSET. THE HOME BUILDER OR DEVELOPER MUST DISCLOSE THAT TO THE BUYER OF THE PROPERTY. SO NOT JUST THE HOME OWNER, BUT ALSO TO ANY SUBSEQUENT BUYER OF A PROPERTY. SO HOME BUILDERS THAT BUY FROM A DEVELOPER INHERIT THE OBLIGATION TO DISCLOSE THAT, AND THEY HAVE TO PASS IT ON TO THEIR HOME BUYER. REALTORS AND TITLE COMPANIES ARE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE COMPLIANCE REQUIREMENTS IN THE PROPERTY TAX CODE, AND SO THERE'S OFTENTIMES EDUCATION THAT GOES ALONG WITH THAT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY KNOW THAT THERE'S A PID IN THE AREA. SO QUESTIONS ABOUT DISCLOSURES OR TRANSPARENCY. YEAH, I DO HAVE ONE, MARY I KNOW THERE'S BEEN CONCERNS OR I'VE HEARD FROM FOLKS IN THE PAST NOT IN THE MOST RECENT YEARS, BUT PIDS THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED A LITTLE BIT BEFORE THAT THEY WERE SURPRISED THAT THEY WERE IN A PID. THEY DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL THEY GOT THEIR FIRST TAX BILL AND THEY WEREN'T REALLY NOTIFIED, OR THEY DIDN'T FEEL LIKE THEY HAD BEEN NOTIFIED I UNDERSTAND THERE'S BEEN SOME NEW LEGISLATION IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS THAT HELPED PUT SOME MORE TEETH IN THIS. DO YOU MIND TALKING ABOUT THAT? JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL? SURE AS A RESULT OF MANY OF THOSE FOLKS COMPLAINING ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY HAD NOT BEEN TOLD SOON ENOUGH OR DID NOT KNOW UNTIL THEIR TAX BILL CAME OUT, THE PROPERTY TAX CODE WAS AMENDED TO INCLUDE NOT ONLY THE REQUIREMENTS OF THAT TO BE INCLUDED AT THE TIME OF FIRST CONTRACT WAS ENTERED INTO DURING THE DUE OR BEFORE THE DUE DILIGENCE PERIOD STARTED, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDED VERY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE THAT HAD TO BE INCLUDED IN THAT DISCLOSURES FORM . AND SO THOSE DISCLOSURE FORMS GET ATTACHED TO THE SERVICE AND ASSESSMENT PLAN NOW, AND SO THEY'RE FILED IN THE REAL PROPERTY RECORDS. THEY'RE ABLE TO BE OBTAINED EASILY BY TITLE COMPANIES AND REALTORS THE OTHER COMPONENT OF THAT IS ONE OF THE BEST PRACTICES, MAKING SURE THAT YOU'VE GOT THAT PID ASSESSMENT ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS, THE COLLECTION PERIOD, BEFORE YOU ACTUALLY HAVE HOMEOWNERS MOVING IN SO THAT THEIR HUD STATEMENTS OR THEIR CLOSING STATEMENTS ACTUALLY PICK UP THE AMOUNT OF THEIR DISCLOSURE. SO THAT'S ALREADY ACCOUNTED FOR IN THEIR MORTGAGE ESCROW WHEN THEIR TAXES DO COME OUT. THEY MIGHT BE SURPRISED, BUT IT WAS ALREADY CONTEMPLATED IN THE DOLLARS AND CENTS THAT WERE AS PART OF THEIR CLOSING. OKAY, AND THEN ON YOUR RIGHT SIDE WE HAVE THE OPTIONAL AT COUNCIL DISCRETION OPTIONS. YES, SIR, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WRITE IN TO THE AGREEMENT, AND EACH HOME BUILDER, EACH DEVELOPER WILL BE OBLIGATED TO PUT THE SIGNS UP IF THAT'S WHAT WE PUT IN OR WHATEVER DISCLOSURES THAT WE FURTHER DICTATE OR REQUIRE. IS THAT CORRECT? RIGHT, RIGHT, AND REMEMBER WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS IN A MINUTE. YOUR YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT RUNS WITH THE LAND AND SO WHOEVER IT IS THAT'S PURCHASING THE LAND THAT'S A DEVELOPER ENTITY, THESE COMPONENTS ARE GOING TO GET PASSED ON TO THEM IF THAT'S WHAT YOU DESIRE. SO IF IT'S YOU KNOW, A BUILDER BUYS AN ENTIRE SECTION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DEVELOP ALL SINGLE FAMILY, THAT OBLIGATION CAN TRAVEL TO THEM, AND THEY'LL HAVE THAT OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE INSTALLING SIGNAGE OR PROVIDING DISCLOSURES IN THEIR SALES MODEL HOMES, ETC.. OKAY. THANKS. SO ON THESE OPTIONAL ITEMS. THEY SEEM IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, THAT YOU WOULD DEFINITELY INCLUDE THESE IN [01:00:05] YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH DEALING WITH PIDS, DOES ANYBODY NOT DO ALL THESE? THERE ARE SOME, LIKE THEY BEING CITIES THAT DON'T DO THESE, OR BUILDERS THAT DON'T DO THESE WELL, CITIES THAT DON'T REQUIRE THIS, IF THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE A PID AGREEMENT. YEAH. THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT WEREN'T EDUCATED AND DIDN'T KNOW AND UNDERSTAND THAT THEY COULD ADD CERTAIN COMPONENTS TO THEM. THE STATUTE ORIGINALLY JUST SAID YOU HAD TO HAVE A HOME BUYERS DISCLOSURE PROGRAM, BUT IT WASN'T SPECIFIC TO WHAT THAT WAS, AND THE PROPERTY TAX CODE WAS SILENT ON THAT. SO SINCE THIS AWARENESS AND CERTAINLY SINCE THE PROPERTY TAX CODE AMENDMENT. IT'S MUCH MORE THE FOREFRONT OF EVERYONE'S MIND, AND SO MOST DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS REQUIRE CERTAIN THINGS, INCLUDING THESE ADD-ONS. I WOULD THINK. GOOD WITH MOVING ON. OKAY, SO WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE AND WHERE ARE WE. SO THIS PROPERTY HAS ALREADY BEEN ZONED. SO THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC COMPONENTS TO YOUR ZONING THAT IS IN THERE, AND THOSE ARE JUST KIND OF SUMMARIZED IN THE BULLET POINTS. THE DEVELOPER HAS SUBMITTED A PID APPLICATION. ALL YOUR LITTLE DOTS ARE YELLOW, BUT YOUR CHECK MARKS ARE BLACK BECAUSE THE CHECK MARKS ARE THINGS THAT COULD COME IF WE MOVED FORWARD WITH THE COMPONENTS OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND A PID. SO JUST RECOGNIZING THAT SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I'VE MENTIONED THIS EVENING ARE THINGS THAT ARE IN THOSE CHECK MARKS LIMITINGWHAT THE PID CAN FUND, HOW MUCH IT CAN FUND OBLIGATION TO BUILD TO THE TOWN STANDARDS, BUT WITH CERTAIN FACADE AND MASONRY STANDARDS INCLUDED AS WELL. SO AT THIS JUNCTURE, WHAT'S THE TOWN'S OBLIGATION? SO A PET APPLICANT APPLICATION HAS BEEN RECEIVED AND ACKNOWLEDGED. THE STAFF AND CONSULTANTS HAVE EVALUATED THE LANDOWNER'S REQUESTS. WE'VE MADE A PRESENTATION TO YOU. NOW THE DEVELOPER'S REPRESENTATIVE WILL FURTHER EDUCATE YOU ON ITEMS. THE NEXT CONTEMPLATED ITEM WOULD BE THE COUNCIL DIRECTION TO REQUEST FOR THIS TO GO ON ELECTION BALLOT. NOW YOU HAVE A DEADLINE IN ORDER TO GET THERE, AND SO YOU'RE NOT AT THAT DEADLINE YET. SO THERE CAN BE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION MEETINGS, PROVIDING YOU INFORMATION OR FEEDBACK, BUT THEN AFTER THE ELECTION AND THIS WOULD BE AN ELECTION IN WHICH THE PUBLIC WOULD VOTE, IF IT'S A NO, TOWN STAFF AND COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER ACTIONS ACCORDING TO YOUR CHARTER AND BRYN, I'LL DEFER TO YOU IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE TO THAT, BUT IF THERE'S A YES VOTE, IF THE PUBLIC DECIDES THAT YES, THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AND THE SIZE AND WHAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED IS WORTHWHILE AND THE BALLOT PASSES, THEN YOU WOULD SEE STAFF AND CONSULTANTS PREPARE DEAL POINTS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED IN A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. THOSE WOULD BE PRESENTED A COUPLE DIFFERENT TIMES AND A COUPLE DIFFERENT WAYS TO COUNCIL AND TO THE PUBLIC, AND THEN THAT AGREEMENT WOULD BE PLACED ON AN AGENDA FOR FUTURE ACTION. REMEMBERING THAT A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, ONCE IT'S ENTERED INTO IT, BINDS ALL THE LAND TO THE TERMS OF THAT AGREEMENT. SO YOU USUALLY HAVE THE, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE LEGAL DESCRIPTION ATTACHED TO THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. SO THAT DOCUMENT GOVERNS ALL OF IT. SO IT'S NOT AS IF YOU'RE DOING IT ONCE AND YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO IT AGAIN. THE CREATION OF THE PIDS, ALSO A ONE TIME THING. IT'S CREATED. HOWEVER, EVERY TIME THE DEVELOPER DECIDES TO DEVELOP AN AREA, THEY'RE COMING BACK TO YOU. THE COUNCIL FOLLOWING THE ROAD MAP THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED IN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND SEEKING ACTION ON THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS LEVY OF THE ASSESSMENT IF THEY HAVE TO REZONE ANYTHING ELSE LIKE THAT. SO THEY'RE STILL COMING BACK TO THE COUNCIL FOR REVIEW AND CERTAINLY TO STAFF FOR OVERSIGHT SO THAT'S GENERALLY IF THAT. YES PASSES. SO, MARY ON THAT, THOUGH, IF THIS MOVES FORWARD AND IT GOES TO THE BALLOT. IS THERE ANYTHING THOUGH MORE SPECIFIC THAT WE COULD PROVIDE? I MEAN, I GET THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT A LOT OF TIME AND COST INTO IT AND I KNOW THE WORDING WOULD BE VERY SPECIFIC ON THE BALLOT, BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE IT'S RATHER A GENERAL YES OR NO VOTE, BECAUSE THE QUESTION MIGHT BE, IF NONE OF THIS IS DONE, THEN BEFOREHAND, WHAT ARE THEY REALLY VOTING YES FOR? AND I THINK IF WE COULD PROVIDE SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC, THAT IT WASN'T JUST SO GENERAL THAT IT MIGHT. BE BETTER FOR PEOPLE TO HAVESOMETHING A LITTLE MORE DIRECT THAT THEY THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE EITHER VOTING FOR OR AGAINST THAN JUST THE BIG WORLD OF PID. I DEFER TO BRYN BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW. SURE MUCH LIKE THE CHARTER ELECTION, WE HAVE THE MEASURES, WHICH ARE SIMPLE ONE SENTENCE QUESTIONS. SHALL THIS BE CHANGED? YES OR NO? BUT THE TOWN IS ALWAYS ABLE TO PROVIDE PURELY FACTUAL INFORMATION TO HELP EDUCATE AND INFORM THE VOTERS. THE ONLY THING WE CANNOT DO IS ENGAGE IN ADVOCACY THAT'S PROHIBITED. PROHIBITED UNDER THE ELECTION CODE, BUT WE COULDN'T SAY PID IN THE VALUE OF X DOLLARS [01:05:06] BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THAT YET, RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW ANY OF THOSE ANSWERS UNTIL WE GET PAST THE ELECTION AND DO THE AGREEMENT. YES, AND QUITE FRANKLY, EVEN WHEN YOU DID THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, MOST LIKELY YOU WOULD HAVE A NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER IN THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO BUILD BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A LARGE MASS OF LAND. SO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT YOUR ARMS AROUND THE FIRST 3 TO 5 YEARS WORTH OF CONSTRUCTION AND VALUE AND KNOW WHAT THE NEEDS ARE THERE, BUT AGAIN, THAT FIRST SLIDE WHERE I SHOWED YOU IN 2023 NUMBERS, IT'S $1.4 BILLION IN COSTS. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO BE, AND SO IN A SENSE THE DEVELOPER IS LIMITING THEMSELVES NOW BY SAYING I'LL ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT NOW AND I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE THE RISK FOR WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE IF I DON'T FINISH DEVELOPING FOR 20 YEARS, AND THERE WILL BE A NOT TO EXCEED IN THERE. SO, MARY THAT NOT TO EXCEED NUMBER, IT CANNOT BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE. IT CERTAINLY COULD BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE. IT'S JUST NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE AMENDED. IF IT'S AMENDED, DOES IT HAVE TO BE VOTED ON BY THE PUBLIC AGAIN TO AMEND? THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO YOU'RE SIMPLY ASKING THE VOTERS, YES OR NO, WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN ENGAGE IN ALL OF THE REGULAR STEPS ANY OTHER COMMUNITY COULD DO DIRECTLY AND SO IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THE CREATION OF THE PID, IT'S ALSO AN APPROVAL TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS, ETC., THAT YOU WOULD CHOOSE. SO RATHER THAN VOTING ON THE SPECIFICITY OF THE AGREEMENT, IT'S REALLY LIKE A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN YOUR COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE DISCUSSIONS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN. THAT'S RIGHT; IT'S REMOVING A HURDLE THAT THE CHARTER IMPOSES, BUT ONCE THAT HURDLE IS REMOVED YOU DON'T LOOK BACK AT THE CHARTER AND THERE'S NO VOTER INPUT THROUGH AN ELECTION PROCESS GOING FORWARD. SO MAYBE THAT COULD BE PART OF THE EDUCATION PROCESS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ASKING THE PUBLIC TO ACTUALLY ANALYZE ALL THE SPECIFICS BECAUSE WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THEM. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO COME UP WITH THEM IN THIS MOMENT. IT REALLY IS. SO WE'RE JUST REALLY NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THEM. IT IS VOTE OF CONFIDENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO ASSESS ALL OF THESE MULTIPLE, MULTIPLE PARAMETERS AND COME UP WITH A DEAL THAT REALLY BENEFITS THE TOWN. WHICH IS REALLY JUST MAKING SURE WE FOLLOW THE CHARTER BECAUSE, WELL, THAT IS FOLLOWING THE CHARTER. MOST MUNICIPALITIES DON'T PUT IT ON A BALLOT. I THINK FOR THAT REASON IT'S TOO IT'S WAY TOO GENERAL. RIGHT. I THINK BECAUSE IT'S REALLY JUST A VOTE OF CONFIDENCE. THEY'RE NOT REALLY VOTING THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IN THE PID. IT'S JUST DO YOU YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST VERY GENERAL. IT IS GOOD THAT IT GIVES THEM A CHANCE TO WEIGH IN THOUGH AND LEARN ABOUT THE PROCESS. I AGREE. A LOT TO LEARN. WITH THAT, TO THE MAYOR'S POINT WITHOUT A NOT TO EXCEED OR A LIFESPAN IN THE ACTUAL BALLOT ITEM, THE PUBLIC MAY HAVE SOME RESERVATIONS, AND COULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THE BALLOT ITEM AND THEN PUT A HARD CAP THAT THE VOTER ONLY THE VOTERS COULD OVERTURN? I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD LOOK AT. THERE'S REALLY NO REAL PRECEDENCE, CANDIDLY. THE STATUTE DOESN'T ADDRESS A CHARTER PROVISION THAT SAYS YES OR NO, BUT I MEAN, I THINK IF WE INCLUDED SOMETHING LIKE THAT, I CERTAINLY THINK COUNCIL WOULD WANT TO ADHERE TO THE VOTERS WILL IF THAT WERE THE CASE, BUT WE DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE CHARTER. WELL, WE HAVE THAT AS WELL. THAT'S TRUE. I MEAN, IF THAT IS A CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE AND YOU AND CONSTITUENTS HAVE SHARED THAT WITH YOU, THAT MAY BE A WAY TO ADDRESS THAT. SO A FUTURE. SO JUST KIND OF FOLLOWING ON THAT, BUT A FUTURE COUNCIL LIKE ALL THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, THEY COULD COME BACK AND AMEND ALL THOSE DEVELOPER AGREEMENTS THAT WE. SO YOU ONLY HAVE ONE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TYPICALLY, AND ONCE YOU OPEN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, YOU'RE OPENING UP ALL THE COMPONENTS OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, AND SO VERY OFTEN. PARTIES ARE RETICENT TO OPEN THAT UP BECAUSE IT IF STATUTES HAVE CHANGED OR STANDARDS HAVE CHANGED, THEN THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT THEY CAN BE BROUGHT UP TO THOSE STANDARDS OR THEY CAN BE REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THOSE COMPONENTS. SO OFTENTIMES WHEN THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS ENTERED INTO, IT ESTABLISHES THOSE PARAMETERS, AND LIKE I SAID, THE PARTIES ARE OFTEN TIME RETICENT TO OPEN IT BACK UP. NOW FOR THE PID COMPONENTS, AND THE SPECIFICITY THAT WE DON'T HAVE TODAY, THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WOULD OUTLINE PARAMETERS UNDER WHICH THE PID WOULD OPERATE AND COUNCIL WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER COMPONENTS, AND THEY ARE VERY COMPLICATED, AND THAT PRETTY PICTURE I SHOWED YOU WAS IT'S INTRICATE, IT'S COMPLICATED, BUT WHEN IT ALL COMES TOGETHER, IT WORKS, AND WE'VE SEEN IT WORK NUMEROUS TIMES ACROSS THE STATE, BUT [01:10:04] THOSE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS ARE POLICY DECISIONS THAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING INPUT FROM THE COUNCIL IN CONJUNCTION WITH YOUR FINANCIAL ADVISOR AND YOUR BOND COUNCILS, YOUR CITY COUNCIL, YOUR CITY ATTORNEY, AND THOSE DETAILS WOULD PROVIDE THAT FRAMEWORK OF YOU MUST FUNCTION WITHIN THIS REALM OF REFINANCING AND OR REIMBURSEMENT, WHICH WE ALL ACKNOWLEDGE WILL NOT GET YOU FULLY REIMBURSED, AND SO THIS IS A WORLD IN WHICH YOU LIVE IN AS THE DEVELOPER BRINGS FORWARD PARTICULAR PROJECTS. THEY WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THAT FRAMEWORK THAT THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS PROVIDES. FOR NOW, THERE ARE COMPONENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO PRESENT HIGHER AND MORE INCREASED VALUES, CERTAIN THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT IMPACT THOSE TERMS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE A SLIGHTLY HIGHER REIMBURSEMENT, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH THAT IT WOULD BE REIMBURSING 100% OF THE COSTS YOU'RE JUST NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO OVERCOME THAT SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF $1.4 BILLION UNLESS YOU HAVE LIKE 100 YEARS, AND REMEMBER, PIDS DON'T FUNCTION LIKE MUDS OR MMDS. THEY FUNCTION ON A VERY TRUNCATED TERM. SO A LEVY GOES INTO PLACE AND IT GOES INTO PLACE IN YEAR ONE, AND IT'S THERE FOR A FINITE PERIOD OF TIME, AND THEN IT'S DONE. IT'S SOMEONE CAN PAY IT OFF EARLY, AND ONCE THEY'RE PAID OFF, THEY'RE DONE. SO IF YOU MOVE IN IN YEAR ONE AND YOU HAVE AN ASSESSMENT, YOUR ASSESSMENT IS GUARANTEED TO BE OVER IN YEAR 30, BUT IF YOU MOVE IN IN YEAR TEN, YOUR ASSESSMENT STARTS IN YEAR TEN, YEAR ONE'S PERSON IS NOT GOING TO HAVE TO GO PAY FOR THAT PERSON'S BENEFIT OR THEIR COSTS. WHEREAS IN A TAXING ENTITY LIKE A MUD OR EVEN A CITY, THE PERSON IN YEAR ONE'S PAYING THE SAME AMOUNT. THEY'RE JUST PAYING TEN YEARS LONGER. SO THAT'S HOW THAT'S ONE OF THE NATURAL PARAMETERS OF A PID THAT TRUNCATES PEOPLE PAYING FOREVER. THERE'S A NATURAL END DATE THAT'S ALREADY WARRANTED WHEN YOU LEVY THE ASSESSMENT. IT'S FOR 30 YEARS AND IT'S DONE AND IT'S OVER. THANK YOU. SO THE LAST SLIDE IS IF THERE'S A VOTE YES AND IF ALL THESE COMPLICATED COMPONENTS AND DETAILS AND THINGS ARE GOING TO COME BACK IN THE FORM OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND INCLUDING ALL THOSE PARAMETERS, YOU, THE TOWN COUNCIL, HAVE SIGNIFICANT COMPONENTS AND PEOPLE WORKING FOR YOU, THE LANDOWNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS AS WELL, BECAUSE IT IS A VERY DETAILED PROCESS. IT IS GOING TO REQUIRE EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SHARE INFORMATION. THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE TIMELY IN THEIR RESPONSES. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING WELL. THE LAST COMPONENT IS GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF DETAILS, A LOT OF DRAFTS, A LOT OF MATH, A LOT OF MODELS, A LOT OF ERASING, AND A LOT OF EXAMINING IN CRITICAL DETAIL ALL THE COMPONENTS OF, OKAY, IF WE HAVE THIS, WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE? AND ARE WE MEETING THE POLICY PARAMETERS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS ESTABLISHED FOR US AND DO THESE WORDS, AND DOES THIS DOCUMENT ACCOMPLISH THAT? MARY, GOING BACK TO YOUR LAST ITEM ABOUT THE SOMEBODY BUYS A PIECE OF PROPERTY IN YEAR ONE AND ANOTHER PERSON BUYS IN YEAR TEN. ONCE A PARTICULAR AREA GETS DEVELOPED, SUBDIVISION, ETC AND THE PID GETS ESTABLISHED AND THE ASSESSMENTS GO OUT AT THAT POINT THAT THOSE ASSESSMENTS ARE FIXED FOR THAT ENTIRE 30 YEARS, CORRECT? YES, SIR. THEY ARE AND SO IF ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT BENEFITS A PID ZONE, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TRANSFER COST BACK ONCE THOSE ARE ESTABLISHED. THAT'S IT. RIGHT, AND A PID IS ESTABLISHED BASED ON CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS BECAUSE THAT LEVY GOES IN PLACE BEFORE THE HOME IS COMPLETED, BECAUSE YOU WANT THAT LEVY IN PLACE FOR HOMEBUYER DISCLOSURE PURPOSES, AND SO PEOPLE AREN'T SURPRISED, AND SO IF WE ESTIMATE THAT WE ARE BUILDING 6 OR $700,000 HOMES AND THEY REALLY COME IN SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER, IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT ASSESSMENT IS SET AND THEY DON'T PAY MORE. THEY STILL PLAY THAT FLAT LINE ASSESSMENT. IT DOESN'T GO UP JUST BECAUSE THE VALUE OF THE HOME GOES UP. SAME THING. USUALLY FOR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, THEY EXPECT TO BUILD A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET OR A CERTAIN USE TYPE AND A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SQUARE FEET, AND THAT ASSESSMENT IS PLACED ON THAT PROPERTY. IF THEY BUILD MORE THAN THAT, GREAT. IF THEY BUILD LESS THAN THAT, THE DOCUMENT SAYS IT TRIGGERS A PREPAYMENT, AND THE DEVELOPER HAS TO PAY THAT OFF SO THAT THEY RIGHT-SIZE THAT ASSESSMENT. SO A SMALLER COMPONENTS NOT PAYING A LARGER PORTION BECAUSE IT'S ALL BASED ON SPECIAL [01:15:03] BENEFITS. SO AGAIN, INHERENT COMPONENTS AND COMPLICATED DETAILS THAT YOU KNOW, ARE NATURAL INSIDE OF 372 IN THOSE PID BEST PRACTICES. ONE MORE QUESTION. SO TODAY WE HAVE ONE PID IN TOWN, WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND A LITTLE WHILE, AND IT'S UM. IT HAS MIXED REVIEWS, SHALL WE SAY, FOR SUCCESS AND SO FORTH BUT CAN YOU SHARE WITH US HOW PREVALENT THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A PID IS FOR A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY? IT IS, THERE ARE A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF PIDS ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS, A LOT, AND THEY BECOME UTILIZED ON THESE LARGER PROPERTIES BECAUSE CITIES WANT TO MAINTAIN THAT CONTROL, AND THEY DON'T WANT A SEPARATE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION INSIDE THEIR CITY LIMITS, BECAUSE A MUD OR AN MMD IS THE ALTERNATIVE. YOU WOULD HAVE TO CONSENT TO THAT, BUT THAT'S AGAIN A SEPARATE POLITICAL SUBDIVISION WHO HAS TAXING AUTHORITY, POTENTIALLY EMINENT DOMAIN AUTHORITY, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO ISSUE BONDS WITHOUT EVER COMING BACK AND ASKING YOU THEY CAN LEVY THEIR OWN TAXES, AND SO THERE ARE CERTAIN PROVISIONS THAT THEY AND POWERS THEY HAVE THAT YOU CAN'T STOP. IF YOU SAY YES TO THAT TYPE OF TOOL. A PID, HOWEVER, IS NOT; IT'S JUST A BOUNDARY IN WHICH THE DEVELOPER IS DEVELOPING UNDER CERTAIN ASSUMPTIONS AND UNDER CERTAIN AGREEMENTS, AND THEY HAVE TO COME BACK TO STAFF, PRESENT THOSE PLANS, PRESENT THOSE CONCEPTS, MAKING SURE IT COMPLIES WITH ZONING AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND THE PARAMETERS OF THE PID, AND THEN THEY'RE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD AGAIN WITH VOTES FROM YOU ALL IN ORDER TO LEVY THOSE ASSESSMENTS EACH TIME, BUT THEY'RE COGNIZANT OF THOSE COMPONENTS. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISS PETTY? THANK YOU MA'AM. DO STICK AROUND THOUGH. I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION. [INAUDIBLE] TO HELP REAL FAST WITH THAT. WE'LL BE TURNING IT OVER TO THE FIRST RANCH STAFF. I HAVE A NOTE THAT COREY ADMIRE IS HERE. REPRESENTING THE LAW FIRM OF SHUPE VENTURA. IF YOU COULD PULL THAT MICROPHONE DOWN. THERE WE GO. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. SO. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS CORY ADMIRE. I AM WITH SHUPE VENTURA PLLC, 9406 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD IN DALLAS, TEXAS 75218, AND WE DO REPRESENT THE OWNERS THAT HAVE SUBMITTED THE REQUEST THAT THE COUNCIL CONSIDER IMPLEMENTING A PID, WHICH SIMPLY MEANS ALLOWING THE VOTERS TO VOTE ON WHETHER OR NOT A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT IS APPROPRIATE FOR FIRST RANCH, AND SO MARY HAS GIVEN YOU A LOT OF INFORMATION ABOUT HOW PIDS WORK, AND SO I'M REALLY HERE TO JUST TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT, FROM THE OWNER'S PERSPECTIVE WHY FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS SHOULD BE GIVEN THIS OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT CONSIDERING A PID FOR FIRST RANCH, AND THEN I WILL ALSO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, AND I DO HOPE IT'S SIMILARLY A CONVERSATION. SO IF YOU HAVE THEM AS I'M PRESENTING, PLEASE LET ME KNOW. SO THE WHY FOR THIS SPECIFIC PID, AND MARY IS VERY RIGHT. EVERYONE IS DIFFERENT BUT HERE THE REASON IS IT IS A TOOL THAT CAN PAY FOR A PORTION OF INFRASTRUCTURE IN ORDER TO BRING THE TYPES OF HIGH QUALITY SERVICES, SERVICES AND AMENITIES THAT YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF YOUR RESIDENTS TALK ABOUT TONIGHT, AND THAT THE ZONING THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY REALLY ENVISIONS. YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE LOCATION AND THE ZONING AND THE MIXED USE, BUT THAT ZONING REALLY TOOK A LONG TIME OF WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE WITH THE TOWN, AND SO THE TOWN HAS BEEN VERY INTENTIONAL ABOUT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IT REALLY WANTS TO SEE IN THIS AREA AND FOR THIS PROPERTY, AND IT REALLY IS THROUGH THAT PROCESS THAT THE DEVELOPER AND THE LANDOWNER HAVE REALLY HEARD THE TOWN'S CONCERNS, BUT ALSO ITS DREAMS FOR A VERY EXCITING, VIBRANT WEST FLOWER MOUND THAT OFFERS BOTH THE TOWN'S RESIDENTS AS WELL AS THE WIDER REGION REALLY EXCEPTIONAL SERVICES, WORLD CLASS OPEN SPACE, PARKS AND AMENITIES AND THAT ALSO ALLOWS FOR VERY THOUGHTFUL AND CONTROLLED GROWTH, AND SO WE DO APPRECIATE THE TOWN WORKING WITH US IN ORDER TO ZONE THE PROPERTY BUT THAT'S REALLY JUST THE FIRST STEP, AND SO ZONING ALONE DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT THOSE TYPES OF QUALITY SERVICES AND AMENITIES WILL BE DEVELOPED, AND SO THAT IS ONE PIECE OF THE PUZZLE OF WHY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS NOW. [01:20:04] SO JUST FOR YOUR RESIDENTS SOME OF THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM WESTERN FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS IS THAT THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THEY'RE ASKING FOR CONVENIENT SERVICES WHERE I CAN BUY MY GROCERIES, GET MY HAIR CUT, THINGS LIKE THAT A BEST IN CLASS COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER WHERE YOU CAN GO AND EXERCISE, KAYAK, HOLD COMMUNITY EVENTS AND AND A 92 ACRE SPORTS AND RECREATION COMPLEX THAT WOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE YOUR YOUNG FAMILIES AND THEIR ATHLETES. AN EXTENSIVE HIKE AND BIKE TRAIL. WE'VE ALREADY HEARD PEOPLE ARE BIG FANS OF THAT, AND THAT WOULD CONTINUE TO CARRY THAT ON, AND IT WOULD CONNECT A MASTER PLANNED SERIES OF PARKS AND RECREATION AREAS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, REALLY PRESERVE THE BEAUTY THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN AGAIN, FIRST RATE RETAIL, RESTAURANTS AND ENTERTAINMENT AROUND BURGER LAKE, AS WELL AS THE OTHER MIXED USE COMMERCIAL AREAS OF THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S A LOT OF WANTS, RIGHT? SO IF WE REALLY, REALLY DO WANT THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT AND SERVICES IN WESTERN FLOWER MOUND, THEN WE DO HAVE TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE FINANCE THE ROADS, WATER, SEWER AND DRAINAGE AND INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT EXCITING. IT'S NOT FUN. I'M SORRY. TO THE ENGINEERS IN THE ROOM SO BUT BUT WE DO HAVE TO. IT IS A BIG PIECE OF IT, AND IT'S AN IMPORTANT PIECE, AND SO I THINK THERE MUST HAVE BEEN SOME INFLATION SINCE MARY'S [INAUDIBLE], BUT SHE WAS MENTIONING $1.4 BILLION. PRELIMINARY ENGINEERING HAS LOOKED AT ABOUT 1.2, SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE OF PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WOULD BE NEEDED TO BRING THE KIND OF QUALITY DEVELOPMENT THAT THE ZONING PROVIDES FOR, AND THAT'S A REALLY HUGE NUMBER, AND I THINK IT IS DIFFICULT TO PUT THAT INTO CONTEXT, AND IT'S ALSO PRETTY DIFFICULT TO SOMETIMES VISUALIZE THE SIZE OF FIRST RANCH, AND SO I WANTED TO LOOK AT A COUPLE OF PICTURES. SO THE ONE ON THE LEFT IS REALLY JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF WHAT ABOUT $18 MILLION COULD POTENTIALLY FINANCE. AND THEN THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS A $165 MILLION. THESE ARE ALL JUST ROADS, WATER, SEWER, DRAINAGE, JUST TRADITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE. SO JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA IN THE CONTEXT OF THE PROPERTY. BUT THE REALITY IS, IF WE WANT ALL THESE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN, THEN IT REALLY IS GOING TO REQUIRE MUCH MORE. AND OF COURSE, THIS AGAIN, IS GOING TO BE DEVELOPED OVER A NUMBER OF YEARS. BUT IT THE SLIDE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS ALL OF THE ACTIVATED OPEN SPACE, THE PARKS. WE CAN'T SHOW ALL THE TRAILS AND, AND ALL OF THE GREAT AMENITIES, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY MUCH, MUCH MORE DETAILED. AND SO, I THINK IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE, BUT ONLY A VERY SMALL PART OF THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT ARE ON YOUR CURRENT CIP PLAN. AND SO, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WAYS OF HOW THE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE FINANCED. AND REALLY, I'M FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT THE TOWN IS NOT LOOKING INTO FINANCING $1.2 BILLION OF GENERAL OBLIGATION INFRASTRUCTURE. AND SO THIS IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER TO SHARE IN THOSE COSTS AND BE STRATEGIC ABOUT IT. AND THEN ALSO, AS MARY MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, EVEN IF THE TOWN WERE TO USE EVERY TOOL AT ITS DISPOSAL, YOUR PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AND YOUR LANDOWNERS ARE STILL GOING TO BE INVESTING HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS, REALLY, THROUGH THAT VERTICAL BUCKET THAT MARY SHOWED AT THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS, ALL OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WILL NOT BE FUNDED THROUGH THE TOUR'S IMPACT FEES OR PID, IF YOU CHOOSE TO MOVE FORWARD. BECAUSE THERE'S THIS IS JUST SUCH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT AND BECAUSE OF THE QUALITY OF THE DEVELOPMENT AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BECOME. ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. COULD YOU GO BACK ONE SLIDE, PLEASE? I'M SORRY. ONE MORE. I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN DOWN WHAT SLIDE NUMBER IT WAS. UM, SO HERE WE HAVE THE 197 MILLION FOR THE CIP AND A LITTLE OVER A BILLION FOR THE NON-CIP. SO IS THE NON-CIP PORTION THAT LITTLE OVER $1 BILLION. IS THAT WHAT THE LANDOWNER IS GOING TO PAY FOR AND WILL NOT BE INCLUDED. OR IS THE NON-CIP. WHAT'S GOING TO BE BROKEN OUT IS PART OF THE PIT POTENTIAL PIT. AND THEN ALSO WHAT THE LANDOWNER WOULD DO AS WELL. OKAY. THIS IS AND THE CIP WOULD BE THE TERS DOLLARS. IS THAT CORRECT. YES SIR. OKAY. AND REALLY, IT'S JUST AN ESTIMATE OF TO BRING ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THE ZONING HAS [01:25:05] ENVISIONED IT WOULD. YOU KNOW, THE ESTIMATE IS ABOUT THAT. OKAY. THANKS. AND SO REALLY, JUST BACK TO THE WHY. IT REALLY DOES PROVIDE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN AND THE LANDOWNER TO CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER, LONG TERM, AND REALLY BE STRATEGIC ABOUT MAKING ALL OF THOSE WISH LISTS COME TRUE. IT DOES CREATE AN ONGOING PARTNERSHIP AND AS MARY HAS REALLY DUG INTO THE TOWN, CONTINUES TO HAVE A LOT OF CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT SOMETIMES THAN OTHER ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I AM GENERALLY AN OPTIMIST BY NATURE. THAT'S PROBABLY WHY I LIKE DOING WHAT I DO. BUT I'M MARRIED TO A SKEPTIC. SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD COMBINATION. SO, I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS FROM THE TOWN. AND YOU'RE ASKING, HOW DOES THE TOWN ENSURE THAT WHAT'S BEEN PROMISED AND PLANNED GETS PRODUCED? RIGHT. AND SO, A PID CAN BE USED AS A TOOL IN THAT SOMEWHAT. BUT WHAT MARY HAS TALKED ABOUT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT IS A BIG ONE. AND THAT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU WOULD SET IN PLACE YOUR PERFORMANCE OBLIGATIONS AND YOUR PARAMETERS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT. AND THEN ALSO IMPORTANTLY, UM, THE FACT THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL AT DIFFERENT STAGES OF DEVELOPMENT. AND SO, I'VE HEARD MENTION OF THE EXISTING PID AND THAT IT HAS LEFT SOME PEOPLE DISAPPOINTED AND, AND PRETTY DISTRUSTFUL OF, OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICTS. AND JUST WHAT I WOULD SAY IS I'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A WHILE, AND EVERY PROJECT IS TRULY, TRULY DIFFERENT. AND, YOU KNOW, JUST ON SIZE ALONE, FIRST RANCH IS OVER TEN TIMES THE ACREAGE IT'S GOING TO BE DEVELOPING BETWEEN 20 AND 30 YEARS. SO, THIS IS A LONG-TERM PROJECT. AND SO THAT SCOPE AGAIN ALLOWS YOU TO CONTINUE TO HOLD THE DEVELOPER AND THE LANDOWNERS ACCOUNTABLE AT DIFFERENT STEPS OF THE OF THE DEVELOPMENT. SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS, PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENTS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, THE TOWN COUNCIL CONTINUED CONTROL. AND SO REALLY, TONIGHT, UM, YOU'RE QUITE AWARE OF YOUR CHARTER REQUIREMENTS, AND I WAS JUST HERE TO PROVIDE SOME INFORMATION TO PROSPECTIVE ALSO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE. BUT THEN AFTER YOU'VE HAD SUFFICIENT TIME TO DISCUSS AND DEBATE, WE ARE REALLY JUST ASKING THAT THE COUNCIL ALLOW YOUR VOTERS TO MOVE FORWARD AND CONSIDER THIS ON THE MAY 4TH UNIFORM ELECTION DATE. AND SO, WE WOULD JUST ASK THAT ON OR BEFORE FEBRUARY 5TH, UM, THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE IMPLEMENTATION UNDER YOUR CHARTER, AND THAT WOULD THEN ALLOW YOU TO CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION IN ORDER TO ALLOW YOUR VOTERS TO CONSIDER IT. AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN SAID, BUT SAID MULTIPLE TIMES TONIGHT, BUT IT'S WORTH REPEATING. THAT'S REALLY JUST SO YOU CAN CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS BE AN AVAILABLE TOOL. THERE'S NO OBLIGATION TO USE IT. THERE'RE STILL SO MANY MORE STEPS IN ORDER TO CREATE LEVY ASSESSMENTS, ET CETERA. SO REALLY, I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT RIGHT NOW WHAT WE ARE FACED WITH AND ARE ASKING FOR IS REALLY JUST THE VERY NEXT STEP TODAY. YEAH. ANY QUESTIONS? YES. QUESTIONS? OKAY. COURT, COULD YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE NINE, PLEASE? AND MAYBE WALK ME THROUGH A LITTLE BIT. MORE SPECIFIC. SORRY, NINE. WAS THE NEXT ONE. OKAY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY? YES. SO, DO YOU HAVE IN MIND ANY EXAMPLES OF WHAT A PERFORMANCE REQUIREMENT COULD LOOK LIKE? ABSOLUTELY. SO, WE HAVE WORKED WITH PROJECTS WHERE MAYBE YOU IMPOSE THAT X NUMBER OF JOBS NEED TO BE CREATED, OR THERE ARE TIMELINES THAT ARE THERE ARE CERTAIN MILESTONES. UM, WE SEE THAT AND SOMETIMES THOSE ARE REQUIRED IN CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT TYPE AGREEMENTS. YOU'VE HEARD OF TYPE A OR TYPE B AGREEMENTS, EDC AND CDCS. OFTEN, YOU'LL SEE THAT, AND YOU CAN USE THOSE. YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY HAVE A LOT OF FLEXIBILITY WITH YOUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT TO PUT THINGS LIKE THAT IN PLACE. SO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO NEGOTIATE AT THE ONSET OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. BUT COULD IT BE AMENDED IN THE FUTURE THEREAFTER? YEAH. SO, I BELIEVE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT CAN BE AMENDED. YOU KNOW, MR. MEREDITH WOULD HAVE TO CONTINUE TO ADVISE ON HOW THAT COULD BE DONE AND WHAT COULD BE DONE. BUT AS MARY HAS MENTIONED, ONCE THOSE ARE IN PLACE AND, AND REALLY, THAT'S WHY, AS WITH MANY THINGS, WE DO A LOT OF WORK UP FRONT AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S ON THE [01:30:02] SAME PAGE WITH THE PARTNERSHIP. THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS A SUCH A LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT THE TOWN TO ALSO HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO AMEND THINGS AS WELL. SO YES, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COULD BE AMENDED IF BOTH PARTIES AGREE. OKAY. THAT'S A GOOD POINT, THAT IT COULD GO BOTH WAYS. THANK YOU. JAMES. SO, ON THAT POINT, RIGHT? WE DON'T DO THIS EVERY DAY, THESE PIDS AND TIRZ AND THINGS. AND SO, I THINK MISS MARTIN ASKED A PRETTY GOOD QUESTION ON DEVELOPER ACCOUNTABILITY. BECAUSE I DON'T EVEN THINK MR. ENGEL WAS ON THE COUNCIL WHEN WE FIRST DID THE FIRST PID. SO, TO MY POINT, IF WE HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BETWEEN YOU AND MISS PETTY BECAUSE I KNOW FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND THE COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTABILITY AND WE'VE WORKED THROUGH THIS WITH, WITH THE FIRST FAMILY AND THE APPLICANT BUT JUST SOME IDEAS BECAUSE WHILE I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, THE CHECK MARKS AND THE BULLETS, THEY'RE RATHER VAGUE. SO, I THINK IF WE HAD SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE FROM THE EXPERTS, UM, NOT SAYING THAT WE NEED TO IMPLEMENT ALL OF THEM, BUT JUST SOME IDEAS TO, TO ANNE'S POINT, LIKE, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. RIGHT. AND SO. AS WE GO FORWARD IN THIS PROCESS. THAT'S PART OF THE THING IS THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DIGEST AND MAKE THOSE RIGHT DECISIONS. AND I THINK IF WE HAD A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THAT, UM, AND WE COULD HELP ASSURE SOME OF THE RESIDENTS AS WELL THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT TOTAL CONTROL AND YOU KNOW ALL THAT. RIGHT? SO, AND IF I CAN ANSWER JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND I KNOW MR. CHILDERS AND MR. MEREDITH MAY HAVE AS WELL, WHEN, WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE KIND OF CONTROL THAT'S SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND WHEN IT'S BEING APPLIED TO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT FOR THESE TYPES OF REASONS. I KNOW MARY HAS EDUCATED THE COUNCIL, AND I DO KNOW IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE PID IS CREATED, THEN WE HAVE TO COME BACK TO YOU TO LEVY ANY ASSESSMENTS ON THE PROPERTY. AND SO THAT'S THE ONLY SOURCE OF REVENUE TO REPAY OR PAY FOR ANY OF THOSE PORTIONS OF AGREED UPON PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS. AND IF THINGS DON'T GO AS PLANNED OR YOU NEED TO NEGOTIATE SOMETHING AT NEXT. THERE'S NOTHING TO STOP. THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS TO APPROVE THE SECOND PHASE OR MOVE FORWARD. SO, THERE IS THAT KIND OF ONGOING ABILITY TO KEEP EVERYBODY ACCOUNTABLE TO WHAT WAS AGREED TO. YEAH, I THINK COREY DID A GOOD JOB OF LAYING THAT OUT. AND THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE AS A STAFF WORKING WITH OUR PID ADMINISTRATOR TO ENSURE THOSE ITEMS ARE TAKEN CARE OF. SO, BEFORE ANYTHING COMES FOR YOU, THAT SPECIFICITY WILL BE THERE BEFORE YOU SIGN OFF ON IT. SO, YOU'LL KNOW HOW THAT ACCOUNTABILITY WILL LOOK AND WHAT THOSE BOXES WILL BE CHECKED. SO, THE COUNCIL AND FUTURE COUNCILS WILL HAVE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT BEFORE WE ACTUALLY MOVE FORWARD WITH A NEW ASSESSMENT WITHIN THE BROADER PID ZONE AREA. PERFECT. COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR MISS ADMIRE? YEAH. MRS. ADMIRE. THERE'S A STATEMENT IN THE APPLICATION THAT CAUGHT MY ATTENTION, SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ IT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISTRICT IS TO FINANCE A PORTION OF THE COSTS OF THE PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO BRING FULL MUNICIPAL SERVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, CONSISTENT WITH THE PROJECTS VESTED RIGHTS AND ZONING. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THE INTENT WAS BEHIND THAT? SO, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE INTENT OF WHAT IT WAS BEHIND THAT, NECESSARILY. BUT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE SERVICES, IT REALLY IS, UH, GOING BACK TO THE APPROVED ZONING AND TO BEING ABLE TO ACTUALIZE WHAT THAT ZONING ENVISIONED, AND THAT WOULD HAVE ALL OF THAT LIST OF THE SERVICES, THE PARKS, THE OPEN SPACE, ETC., IS GOING TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT. DOES THIS IMPLY THAT YOU DO NOT AGREE THAT THE ZONING APPROVAL AND THE TOURS PROVIDES FULL MUNICIPAL SERVICES AND SATISFIES THE TOWN'S OBLIGATIONS TO YOUR VESTED RIGHTS IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULE 11 AGREEMENT? I AM NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT. I WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY DEFER TO MR. MEREDITH OR OTHERS BECAUSE I'M NOT HONESTLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH EXACTLY WHAT THE TOWN'S OBLIGATIONS ARE RELATED TO THAT. SO, I CAN'T REALLY SPEAK TO WHETHER OR NOT I THINK THAT STATEMENT IS CORRECT. SO, DURING THIS WHOLE PROCESS, SINCE, YOU KNOW, FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME INDICATION FROM MISTY THAT THERE SHE DOESN'T BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN IS SATISFIED OUR OBLIGATIONS UNDER THE RULE 11 AGREEMENT. SO, WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED THE ZONING, WE'VE APPROVED THE TOURS. AND IF WE SEND THIS TO THE VOTERS. WHETHER IT PASSES OR FAILS, I NEED AN ASSURANCE FROM YOU THAT YOU WILL WAIVE ANY FUTURE LITIGATION REGARDING FULL MUNICIPAL SERVICES IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE RULE 11 [01:35:02] AGREEMENT. WILL YOU DO THAT? I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO DO THAT HERE AND NOW. I THINK YOUR REQUEST HAS BEEN HEARD. OKAY. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. AND THEN THE LAST THING I WOULD LIKE TO JUST FOLLOW UP ON WITH MISS PETTY IS I DO KNOW THAT IT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES WHO HEAR FROM YOUR RESIDENTS IF THEY ARE FRUSTRATED OR FEEL LIKE THEY WEREN'T FULLY INFORMED ABOUT THE PIT ASSESSMENTS. AND SO, AS SHE MENTIONED BRIEFLY AS WELL THAT CHANGE IN LAW REALLY DID COME BECAUSE OF THAT OCCURRING, BUT ALSO YOUR LANDOWNER AND YOUR DEVELOPER, THEY DON'T WANT ANGRY RESIDENTS EITHER. AND SO, WE WORK VERY HARD WITH MISS PETTY AND HER TEAM AND THEN THE BUILDERS AND SALES FOLKS AND THE COMMERCIAL FOLKS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S CLEAR GOING IN THAT THEY'RE IN A DISTRICT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE VERY DIFFERENT TEN YEARS AGO. AND SO NOW YOU CAN, AS A RESIDENT, GO TO P3'S WEBSITE, KNOW IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE IN A PIT WHICH YOU WILL FIND OUT. AND THEN YOU CAN GO AND GET VERY DETAILED INFORMATION PRETTY EASILY. AND SO, WE HAVE SEEN THAT BE VERY HELPFUL FROM A HOMEOWNER STANDPOINT. SO. THANK YOU, MS. ADMIRE. WELL, COUNCIL, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MADE THE DECISION TO IMPLEMENT A TRS BOUNDARY, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE WHAT WE'RE PUTTING ON THE BALLOT IS REALLY JUST LIKE. LIKE ANNE SAID, IT'S JUST THE VOTER'S CONFIDENCE TO LET US GO. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH IT MAY PASS, IF IT DOES PASS, IT DOESN'T REALLY ESTABLISH A REQUIREMENT OF MUCH. IT JUST GIVES US THE ABILITY TO THEN WORK OUT THE FINITE DETAILS, MUCH LIKE WE DID WITH THE TOURS. WE STILL HAVE TO DO THE AGREEMENTS. SO, I'M HOPING THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE THIS DOWN THE ROAD A LITTLE BIT AND PUT IT INTO THE HANDS OF OUR RESIDENTS AND, AND HOPEFULLY THEY HAVE THE, THE CONFIDENCE IN US TO SORT OUT THE DETAILS BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN THE ONES HERE. RIGHT. YES, I CAN AGREE WITH THAT IN GENERAL, BUT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT I SPECIFICALLY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A COMMITMENT ON. AND OBVIOUSLY WE'RE STILL DISCUSSING IT. WE'RE NOT VOTING TONIGHT ON ARE WE GOING TO ALLOW IT TO GO TO A VOTE OR NOT? BUT THE THINGS THAT WOULD MAKE ME FEEL MORE CONFIDENT ABOUT AGREEING TO GO TO A VOTE, UM, WOULD BE. COMPLIANCE WITH MANY OF THESE BEST PRACTICES THAT WERE IN MARY'S PRESENTATION. I WAS ESPECIALLY INTERESTED IN THE DEVELOPER ACCOUNTABILITY. ON SLIDE EIGHT, REGARDING THE OPPORTUNITY, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THOSE THINGS ESTABLISHED AND IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AS FAR AS INFORMATION GOES, WITH A STRONG COMMITMENT, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW STRONG IT COULD BE. COULD IT ACTUALLY BE LIKE A PRE LEGAL AGREEMENT? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PRE NEGOTIATE SOME OF THESE THINGS TO SAY IF IT PASSES IT WILL INCLUDE X Y Z. BUT I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE MY VOTERS FEEL BETTER TOO. AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS WITH THE APPLICANT. OBVIOUSLY, WE'RE ON AN ACCELERATED TIMELINE TO TRY TO WORK OUT SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, COMMITMENTS THAT WOULD NEED TO BE SPECIFIC RATHER THAN GENERAL IN NATURE. WELL, I ESPECIALLY LIKED THE HOME BUYER DISCLOSURE SECTION, AND I DEFINITELY WOULD WANT THE ITEMS THAT WERE LISTED ON THE AT COUNCIL DISCRETION COLUMN, BECAUSE I THINK THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT DO GIVE ASSURANCES TO OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR FUTURE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE, AGAIN, PEOPLE WHO ARE VOTING ON THE PID ARE CURRENT RESIDENTS AND MANY OF WHOM WERE IN THE AUDIENCE SAID, WELL, I WANT TO LIVE THERE IN THE FUTURE, BUT NOBODY LIVES THERE RIGHT NOW. RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE VOTING ON AN OBLIGATION OF FUTURE HOMEOWNERS AND RESIDENTS. SO. GIVEN THAT, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT OUR DEVELOPER AND CURRENT LANDOWNER AND THE TEAM WOULD BE AVAILABLE AND ACCESSIBLE TO CURRENT RESIDENTS, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT COULD LOOK LIKE TOWN HALL MEETINGS, WEBSITES, ANSWERING EMAILS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND I APOLOGIZE. I DID FORGET TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE TOWN WERE OR IF THE TOWN COUNCIL WERE TO VOTE TO GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT AND CALL THE SPECIAL ELECTION, THEN WE DO HAVE PLANS TO CONTINUE TO HOLD TOWN HALL MEETINGS, NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'VE DONE PRIOR. BUT THEN IN THIS INSTANCE, IT WOULD BE TO ANSWER SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THE PID FALLS INTO PLACE WITH THE OVERALL PROJECT, AS WELL AS ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE OF THE DEVELOPER. AND DO YOU ENVISION KEEPING A WEBSITE WITH ONGOING Q&A THAT AS THE BODY OF QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS GROW, EVERYONE CAN GO BACK AND CITE THAT? I CAN'T SAY THAT I ENVISION IT, BUT I THINK THAT'S A SUGGESTION. OKAY. YEAH. THANK YOU, GOD. AFFIRMATIVE. YES. FROM JACK. ANYONE ELSE. SO, I DO HAVE A QUESTION. WHAT IF WE DON'T SEND THIS TO THE VOTERS OR THE VOTERS DENY IT. WHAT'S THE NEXT STEPS FOR? I'M SORRY IF YOU DON'T SEND IT TO THE VOTERS OR THE VOTERS DENY IT. WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS? AND THE PID WILL NOT BE PART OF THE BUT WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS FOR? [01:40:01] FOR FIRST RANCH? WHAT OTHER FINANCIAL MEANS OR. I THINK WE WOULD JUST BE MORE DISCUSSION BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE OVERALL VISION IS REALLY DEPENDENT ON MULTIPLE TOOLS BEING AVAILABLE. AND AGAIN, BEING AVAILABLE I THINK IS THE KEY WORD. UM, NOT THAT THEY'RE COMMITTED. SO, WHAT A WHAT? A MUD OR AN MMD. BE THE NEXT STEPS OR BE CONSIDERED. [INAUDIBLE]. ARE YOU ASKING QUESTIONS FROM MISTER FIRST? IF SO, HE'S GOING TO NEED TO COME TO THE PODIUM IN ORDER TO ANSWER. I'M JUST ASKING IN GENERAL TO THE APPLICANT. WELL, RIGHT. BUT I DON'T THINK MS. ADMEYER IS HERE TO BRIEF THOSE DETAILS AND THE VISION OF THE DEVELOPMENT. AND FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN HEARING FROM MS. PETTY. WE DON'T REALLY WANT AN MMD OR MUD, I DON'T THINK IT'S EVEN LESS CONTROL FROM THE COUNCIL, SO I WOULD HOPE NOT THAT THAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEP, BUT I'M OPEN TO HEARING FROM MISTER FIRST IF HE IS ALLOWED TO COME TO THE PODIUM. WELL, HE'S THE APPLICANT. HE'S ALLOWED TO COME. WELL THEN, I'D LOVE TO HEAR HIS PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. BRYN, IS THERE ANY INPUT ON MR. FIRST BEING ABLE TO SPEAK UPON HIS OWN BEHALF? OH, CERTAINLY. HE'S CERTAINLY WELCOME. IT'S AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION. IT IS. IT IS SO AUTHORIZED. JACK FIRST. I HAVE TO SAY WHERE I LIVE, I'M GOOD. OKAY. SO, WHEN WE WERE HERE ABOUT A YEAR AGO TO GET OUR ZONING DONE, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WAS, AM I GOING TO STAY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT AND IS MY NAME GOING TO GO ON THE PROJECT? AND I SAID, YES, WITH THREE CONDITIONS. ONE IS THAT WE GET THE ZONING, TURN THAT INTO A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT TO GET A TIRZ AREA AND A TERS AGREEMENT AND TO GET A PID. AND THAT WAY WE WOULD HAVE A FULL SET OF TOOLS TO GO TO THE MARKETPLACE THAT SAYS THAT WESTERN FLOWER MOUND IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS. WHAT I HEARD FROM THE VOTERS, WHAT I HEARD FROM ASSESSMENTS, WHAT I HEARD FROM THE PEOPLE IN THE TOWN IS THEY WANT AMENITIES IN THE WESTERN END, THEY WANT COMMERCIAL PROPERTY. AND THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN IS THE TOWN AND FIRST PARTNER TO MAKE THIS A REALITY. AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT, A TIRZ AGREEMENT AND A PID. AND THEN WE GO TO WORK. AND I THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR. I YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I COULD GET WHAT YOU WERE ASKING FOR BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE TO APPROVE IT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT A MUD OR AN MMD WOULD BE AVAILABLE BUT IF IT WERE, I'D CERTAINLY TAKE IT. BUT I THINK THAT THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS TRANSACTION AND THIS MARRIAGE IS TO DO A TOURISM PID AND A DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT. IT'S A LONG-DATED PROJECT. IT'S THE WESTERN END OF FLOWER MOUND, AND IT'S INCUMBENT UPON FIRST AND THE COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS, WE TO MAKE THIS THE BEST PLACE IT CAN BE. IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. AND THIS IS THE DOWN PAYMENT TO BEGIN THE PROCESS. UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MR. FIRST, ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION I ASKED MRS. ADMIRE ABOUT THE RULE 11 AGREEMENT, WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN PUT THAT IN THE PAST IF THIS GOES TO THE VOTERS? I'M NOT PREPARED TO ANSWER TODAY. I'LL GET YOU AN ANSWER TO IT. INSTINCTIVELY. I DON'T THINK THAT I WOULD, BECAUSE, UM, BY JUST GETTING THE VOTE DOESN'T MEAN THAT I GET THE PID. SO, I MEAN, WE COULD GO TO THE VOTERS. THEY SAY YES. AND THEN I COME TO THIS COUNCIL AND WHEN WE GET TO THE DETAILS, I MIGHT NOT GET THE PID. SO. BUT I WILL GET YOU AN ANSWER TO THE QUESTION SPECIFICALLY BUT THERE IS AN ISSUE ABOUT FULL MUNICIPAL SERVICES HERE, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AS THE APPLICANT IS TO TRY TO BRIDGE THAT ISSUE AND THE TERS AND THE PID AND THE DEVELOPER'S AGREEMENT DOES THAT. THANK YOU. MR. FIRST, MY SUPPORT FOR SENDING THIS TO THE VOTERS REALLY DEPENDS ON PUTTING ALL THAT BEHIND US. THAT IS REALLY WHAT I WANT TO SEE, THAT I WANT TO SEE THAT RESOLVED. AND THEN THAT WOULD MAKE ME A LOT MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. SO JUST KEEP THAT IN YOUR BACK POCKET AS YOU GO FORWARD WITH THOSE DISCUSSIONS. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND I'D LIKE TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT THOUGHT FOR JUST ONE MINUTE. SO, IF THIS COUNCIL DOES APPROVE SENDING IT TO THE VOTE, WE'VE SATISFIED WHAT'S WITHIN OUR SCOPE OF CONTROL. AND I THINK THAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED A SIGN OF GOOD FAITH. IF THEN THE VOTERS REJECT THE PID. THAT'S OUT OF OUR SCOPE OF CONTROL, AND WE'RE NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO INFLUENCE THAT VOTE. WE CAN PUT FACTUAL INFORMATION OUT ONLY, BUT WE CANNOT ADVOCATE ONE WAY OR ANOTHER. SO, IF THE VOTERS DECIDE NO. MY OPINION IS IT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE TO HOLD THE TOWN AND THIS COUNCIL RESPONSIBLE IN THE MANNER THAT COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL IS SUGGESTING. YOU KNOW, IF PURSUING STILL THE ALLEGATIONS OF THE RULE 11 AGREEMENT. [01:45:04] SO, I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE A DIRECTION THAT I WOULD BE VERY HAPPY ABOUT. OKAY. UNDERSTAND THE RULE 11 AGREEMENT AND VESTED RIGHTS IS A LEGAL MATTER, SO I NEED TO CONSULT WITH COUNSEL, BUT, UH, SO NOTED. SO, IF YOU DO IN THOSE DISCUSSIONS AND COMING BACK WITH THAT ANSWER TO THIS CONCERN, UM, COULD YOU ALSO MAYBE PROVIDE US SOME IDEAS ON WHAT IF THE VOTERS SAY NO? WHAT THEN WOULD YOU ENVISION HAPPENING AS YOUR NEXT STEPS? WELL, OUR NEXT STEPS ARE WE WOULD BASICALLY GO TO WORK, UM, ON A PHASED BASIS WITH THE TOOLS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO US AS WE BEGIN TO BRING THE PROJECT TO LIFE. AND WE'LL COME BACK. IT'S A LONG-DATED PROJECT. I THINK IT'S IT WOULD BE A HORRIBLE MISTAKE FOR THE TOWN AND FIRST RANCH TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE IT BASICALLY SAYS WE'RE NOT OPEN FOR BUSINESS. IT'S COMPETITIVE. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE THE CENTRAL PARK OF THE METROPLEX. WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE A HUGE COMMERCIAL HUB. AND I THINK OUR TIMING IS NOW. BUT IT'S A LONG-DATED PROJECT. I'VE OWNED THE LAND A LONG TIME. I GUESS I'LL OWN IT A LITTLE BIT LONGER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? AND JUST AS A REMINDER, WE'RE NOT CALLING THE ROLL TONIGHT. WE WERE JUST HAVING A PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT. WITH THAT. THEN WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM K TWO PROPOSED CHARTER AMENDMENTS. [K.2. Proposed Charter Amendments - Discuss and consider possible Charter amendments.] PRESENTING THIS AGAIN, ACTUALLY. IT'S GOING TO BE MISS THERESA SCOTT. AND AGAIN, JUST AS A REMINDER ON THIS ITEM. ALSO, STAFF IS JUST SEEKING DIRECTION. WE WON'T BE ENTERTAINING A MOTION THIS EVENING. HELLO AGAIN. I'M JUST GOING TO GIVE A RECAP FROM THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING WHERE YOU HAD THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION PROPOSED THE SIX CHARTER AMENDMENTS. YOU HAD GENERAL CONSENSUS FOR FOUR OF THOSE TO COME FORWARD. THEY'RE LISTED HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE BUT CAN REVISIT THAT IF THERE'S A NEED TO. AND I HOPE, COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR, YOU HAD A CHANCE TO GET CAUGHT UP ON THOSE. AND ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION WHERE IT WAS LEFT IS THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THE TOWN MANAGER SIGNING AUTHORIZATION INFORMATION, AS WELL AS THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, AND THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT SUPERMAJORITY VOTE FOR EITHER THE CREATION AND FINAL OR JUST THE FINAL OF ANY AGREEMENT. AND THEN THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION ON THE TOPIC OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS. SO AS THE MAYOR SAID, WE'RE JUST SEEKING DIRECTION ON THOSE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS. AND COUNCIL ACTION WOULD BE TAKEN WHEN THE ELECTION IS CALLED ON FEBRUARY 5TH, AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE BALLOT LANGUAGE AT THAT TIME. SO, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REGARDING THE 15TH, THE CHANGE FOR 15,000 TO 50,000. THE FOLLOW UP INFORMATION THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU ALL IN AN EMAIL WAS THAT 50 TOTAL AGENDA ITEMS BETWEEN THAT 16 AND 50,000 RANGE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS, AND THEN THE BENCHMARK CITIES THAT RESPONDED TO WHAT THEIR NUMBERS ARE. AND I'M SORRY, I'M LOSING MY VOICE THIS EVENING. SO, ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? DID YOU ALL WANT TO GO INTO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER? SO, WE HAVE A CONSENT ITEM NUMBER FOUR, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR TEAL WOOD OAKS IN THE AMOUNT OF $18,663. WOULD THIS NOT BE ON OUR AGENDA IF THIS PASSED? AND THAT YOU WOULD JUST SIGN THAT? THAT'S AN EXAMPLE OF ONE THAT THEN FALL OFF. OKAY. YES, SIR. OKAY. THAT'S KIND OF MIND THAT ALL A LOT OF THESE ITEMS ARE ALREADY APPROVED IN THE BUDGET CYCLE. RIGHT. WELL YEAH, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HASN'T JUST WE WOULDN'T EVEN COME TO US. HE WOULD JUST TAKE IT. AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER ONE. HANG ON BEFORE YOU GO. SO, THERE WAS ITEM EIGHT, WHICH IS THE AXON ENTERPRISES BODY CAMERAS. AND THAT WAS $8,789. WHY IS THAT ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA IF IT'S UNDER 15,000? I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY ITEMS. NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE. I HAVE TO DOUBLE CHECK. CHIEF, DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW RIGHT OFF THE BAT? SOMETIMES THERE'S A CONTRACTUAL COMPONENT THAT REQUIRES AND NECESSITATES TO COME FORWARD, EVEN IF IT'S BELOW THAT THRESHOLD. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE CASE. WELL, OKAY. IT'S YOUR MARSHAL. YEAH. CHIEF HENLEY CAN RESPOND TO THAT. UH COUNCIL MEMBER. THAT WAS A SMALLER PIECE OF A LARGER, ONGOING YEAR AFTER YEAR SERVICE, WHICH THEN TOTALED MORE THAN. IT'S THE TOTAL THAT JAMES COULD OFFER US. SO, I BELIEVE IT'S THE TOTAL VALUE OF THE PURCHASE ORDER OR WHATEVER. SO, IF THERE'S A MOD TO THAT, THEN IT AFFECTS THE TOTAL VALUE BASED ON THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PRICES. DO YOU STILL SIGN IT? EVEN IF THIS PASSES, FAILS, WHATEVER YOU SIGN IT TODAY, YOU'LL SIGN IT BECAUSE THE TOTAL VALUE EXCEEDS THE VALUE THAT JAMES IS AUTHORIZED TO SIGN. [01:50:03] YEAH, OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO, I WOULD STILL THAT YOU WOULD STILL SEE THAT $8,000 ITEM ON. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CHANGE WOULD BE IF THIS ONE GOES THROUGH. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH IT. IT'S STILL LESS SIGNING FOR ME, TO BE HONEST. SO. BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO. SO, IS THERE A CONSENSUS THAT YOU ARE GOOD WITH BRINGING THIS FORWARD AS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT? I THINK IT MAKES A LOT OF I THINK IT MAKES SENSE. AND WE'RE NO NOWHERE CLOSE TO SOME OF THOSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. I THINK EVEN THE CLOSEST ONE WAS 25,000 WITH CARROLLTON. SO, WE'RE STILL WELL BELOW THAT. AND I THINK IT WAS SINCE 2004 THAT THAT 15,000 HAS BEEN IN PLACE. OKAY. THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE, THIS WAS THE ONE THAT THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, UM, SPENT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND FELT THAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION WOULD BE TO PRESENT YOU ALL WITH THE THREE OPTIONS THAT THEY VOTED ON. THAT THERE WAS SOME GOING BACK AND FORTH FOR VARIOUS REASONS, BUT IN SHORT, IT'S THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS EITHER ONE TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY. THIS WOULD BE A NEW BALLOT ITEM THAT DOES NOT EXIST TODAY IS TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY REQUIRED FOR A FINAL APPROVAL OF A NEW REVISED CHARTER AGREEMENT OR A SUPERMAJORITY FOR THE CREATION AND FINAL APPROVAL. SO, YOU'RE EITHER LOOKING AT BEGINNING, VERY BEGINNING OR WHEN YOU'RE IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PHASE OR NO ACTION AT ALL. SO, THESE WERE THE THREE. SO, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'LL LET THE TEAM, ALL OF US KIND OF WORK THROUGH SOME OF THOSE ANSWERS, BUT I'LL LET YOU ALL DISCUSS AT THIS POINT. COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION ON THAT ONE. SO, THE CHARTER COMMITTEE RECOMMENDED PROPOSAL NUMBER TWO OF THREE, WHICH IS TO HAVE THE SUPERMAJORITY VOTE FOR THE CREATION OF THE TIRZ, AS OPPOSED TO JUST FOR THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT. SO THAT THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME, AND THAT'S WHAT I SUPPORT. YEAH, I'M ALSO SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. I MEAN, WE'RE DOING A PID ELECTION, AND I FEEL LIKE THE TIRZ HAS A FAR GREATER IMPACT TO OUR GENERAL FUND OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. SO, THE TIRZ IS AN IMPACT TO OUR GENERAL FUND. THE PID IS NOT AT ALL. SO, THEY'RE REALLY NOT RELATED. THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE. THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. I PROPOSED A NUMBER THREE TAKE NO ACTION. I BELIEVE THAT WE WILL. IT'S VERY, VERY LIKELY WE WILL NOT HAVE ANY MORE TIRZ. RIGHT. SO, I THINK THAT MAKES THIS IRRELEVANT. AND IT MIGHT BE A NICETY TO SAY, OH, WE HAVE TO HAVE A SUPERMAJORITY, BUT I JUST REALLY DON'T SEE IT COMING UP VERY OFTEN. NOW, AS FAR AS REVISIONS, MODIFYING A TIRZ AGREEMENT THAT MIGHT HAPPEN, I DON'T THINK WE'LL EXPAND THE BOUNDARIES. WE HAVEN'T DONE IT WITH TIRZ. NUMBER ONE, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO, UM. I JUST THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY HARD TO GET, I DON'T KNOW, GO THROUGH THE MOTIONS OF THE CREATION OF THE TIRZ. WE SAW HOW MUCH DISCUSSION IT ENTAILED JUST RECENTLY, BUT I REALLY THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IRRELEVANT. SO, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU. I DON'T SEE A REASON TO TAKE ACTION ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. UM, AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT MR . DIXON, WHEN HE KIND OF GAVE THIS PRESENTATION THE LAST TIME, SAID, WELL, I PROBABLY VOTED THIS WAY, BUT I, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT WAS A33 VOTE IN, IN REALITY. BUT I, YOU KNOW, I AGREE, I DOUBT IT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER TURN IN TOWN JUST FROM A BASIS OF. AVAILABLE LAND. WE MAY POTENTIALLY EXTEND ONE, IF YOU WILL, FOR TIRZ ONE AS A POTENTIAL DISCUSSION ITEM, BUT, UM. I DON'T SEE A NEED TO CHANGE IT AT THIS POINT. MR. TAYLOR, I MEAN, OTHER THAN, YOU KNOW, MORE GOVERNMENT AND GOOD SOUND BITES BECAUSE AGAIN, I CAN'T THINK OF ANYWHERE WHERE WE WOULD BE IMPLEMENTING TIRZ. SINCE I'VE BEEN MAYOR, WE HAVEN'T CHANGED THE TOURS WE HAVE. SO, THIS HAS NEVER COME UP EXCEPT NOW. SO, I MEAN, IS THIS IS THIS JUST A GOOD NICE TO HAVE OR IS THIS WE'RE GOING TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE A CHANGE FOR THE GOOD. YEAH, I TEND TO AGREE WITH ANN. I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS REALLY GOING TO PLAY OUT IN THE FUTURE FOR US. THE QUESTION. YEAH, I KNOW A COUPLE OF YOU THINK WE OUGHT TO DO NUMBER TWO. SO THAT'S A SUPERMAJORITY FOR A BASICALLY A BUDGET ITEM. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HANDLE BUDGET ITEMS WITHOUT A SUPERMAJORITY, RIGHT? WE, YOU KNOW, AN MPA DOES REQUIRE A SUPERMAJORITY. SO, IT'S A VERY LIMITED ONE. A SUPERMAJORITY IS REQUIRED. SO, WHAT'S THE RATIONALE FOR REQUIRING A SUPERMAJORITY FOR THIS BUDGET ITEM AND NOT, [01:55:07] YOU KNOW, SAY, THE REGULAR BUDGET ITSELF? WELL, THE TIRZ TAKES MONEY FROM THAT WOULD BE GOING INTO THE GENERAL FUND AND PUTS IT IN A SEPARATE ACCOUNT. SO THAT HAS A DOWNSTREAM IMPACT ON RAISING TAX BILLS IN THE FUTURE, BECAUSE THAT MONEY CHANGES THE CALCULATION FOR THE VAR AND THE NER, THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE MAKES IT HIGHER. SO, TAXES GO UP. THAT'S ALMOST A BENEFIT THAT OUR CONSULTANT SAID TO US. SO, HANG ON. SO, THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON OUR RESIDENT'S WALLET. AND THEY WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA SCRUTINY APPLIED BEFORE WE START DRAWING LINES AND PUTTING THINGS IN TIRZ. AND FOUR OUT OF THE SIX MEMBERS OF THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMITTEE AGREED. SO, I THINK WE SHOULD SEND IT TO THE VOTERS. BUT AS WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE LAST ITEM. YOU KNOW, THE TIRZ ITEMS IS FUNDS YOUR CIP ITEMS WITH THE TOWN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR AND GOING BACK HISTORICALLY IN TERMS NUMBER ONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THE ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH WE JUST APPROVED TONIGHT FOR THE 2023 FISCAL YEAR. THOSE FUNDS AND WHAT THAT, THAT TIRZ IS FUNDED IS ALL CIP ITEMS. VIRTUALLY. THERE'S A COUPLE OF MINOR EXCEPTIONS. BUT IT'S ALL CIP ITEMS THAT WOULD OTHERWISE HAVE BEEN PAID OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND HAD DEBT ISSUANCE. AND WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE COUNTY PARTICIPATION ON IT, WHICH ACTUALLY ULTIMATELY ENDED UP ALLOWING US TO LOWER TAXES, NOT RAISE TAXES. THAT'S TRUE, BECAUSE I THINK THE CONCLUSION THAT JUST BECAUSE WE CAN RAISE TAXES MEANS WE WILL. IS IT CORRECT? AND I THINK WE'VE SHOWN SO MUCH DISCIPLINE AND SO MUCH DISCRETION IN WANT TO HAVE VERSUS NEED TO HAVE THAT WE HAVE SHOWN RESTRAINT IN SETTING OUR BUDGETS. AND I THINK IT'S ALMOST INSULTING TO SAY THAT JUST BECAUSE WE CAN, WE WILL RAISE TAXES. WE HAVE NOT RAISED TAXES. SO. YEAH. SO, I'M WITH OPTION THREE. TAKE NO ACTION. ALL RIGHT, SO WE CAN SIT HERE AND DISCUSS THIS ALL NIGHT, OR WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE OTHER AGENDA ITEMS. BUT, THERESA, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE COUNCIL WANTS TO TAKE NO ACTION. THAT'S WHAT I UNDERSTOOD AS WELL. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS BRINGING THE TOPIC OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT IS CURRENTLY IN THE CHARTER, AND THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THAT REQUIREMENT BASED ON SOME POSSIBLE MISSED OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE PAST, THIS ONE DID NOT COME FORWARD INITIALLY BY THE CHARTER REVIEW CHAIR BECAUSE OF THE VOTE TO TAKE NO ACTION TO CHANGE AT THAT TIME. HOWEVER, IT WAS BROUGHT BACK AT THE REQUEST OF COUNCIL MAYOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN TO REVISIT THE DISCUSSION. BUT THAT'S WHY IT WAS NOT A PROPOSED AMENDMENT BY THEM JUST BECAUSE THEY VOTED TO TAKE NO ACTION ON THIS. UM, BUT THIS IS A LOT OF LANGUAGE, AND I'M PUTTING IT UP HERE FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND DISCUSS. AND AGAIN THIS WAS APPROVED IN 20 2012 WHEN IT WAS A CHARTER ITEM AT THAT TIME. BUT AGAIN, THE POSSIBILITY OF REMOVING THIS REQUIREMENT FROM THE CHARTER WAS DISCUSSED BY THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION AND NOW IS IN YOUR HANDS FOR DISCUSSION. AND DID YOU WANT TO JUST REMIND US WHY YOU WANTED TO BRING THIS UP? I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BECAUSE WE STILL, THE COUNCIL STILL HAS TO APPROVE A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IF WE WERE TO CHANGE THE CHARTER, SOME OF IT HAS TO GO TO A VOTE. RIGHT. BUT IF WE WERE TO CHANGE IT, THE COUNCIL WOULD STILL HAVE TO APPROVE IT. RIGHT? IF IT DIDN'T GO TO A VOTE. IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE JUST SAYING THEY CAN HAPPEN, CORRECT? ARBITRARILY. WE STILL COME BEFORE US AS A BODY, RIGHT? IT WOULD NOT HAVE TO GO ON A BALLOT FOR THE VOTERS TO WEIGH IN. AND I THINK THAT WAS THE REAL STICKING POINT. UM, AS FAR AS SOME DEALS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN VERY BENEFICIAL FOR THE TOWN BEING LOST BECAUSE OF ALL THAT IS ENTAILED WITH PUTTING IT ON A BALLOT, YOU KNOW, THE TIMING, THE EXPENSE. AND I THINK WE'VE MISSED OUT BECAUSE IT HAS TO GO TO A VOTE. AND I REALLY THINK WE SHOULD HEAR A LITTLE BIT MORE, MAYBE. IS STAFF DOING ANY PRESENTATIONS OR WEIGHING IN ON THIS TO HELP US UNDERSTAND? UH, I'LL SHARE AN ANECDOTE, AND RAY IS AVAILABLE IF WE NEED TO GO ANY FURTHER IN DEPTH. BUT IN MY BEEN HERE TWO YEARS NOW, I'M AWARE OF ONE SCENARIO IN WHICH WE HAD A RESORT DEVELOPER THAT WAS INTERESTED IN EXPLORING OPTIONS AND TOOLS THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS A PRIVATE, PRIVATE, PUBLIC, PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. BUT GIVEN THE CHARTER PROVISION AND THE TIMING WITH THE LEGISLATURE AND ALL THE MOVING PARTS THAT WERE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, IT JUST KIND OF KILLED IT BEFORE THE CONVERSATION COULD TAKE ANY ROUTE AND HAVE A HAVE A DEEPER CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ARE CERTAINLY SOME THINGS THAT, IN THE LONG RUN, MAY NOT BE ADVANTAGEOUS, BUT WHAT IT DOES IS THAT IT BASICALLY ROUTES OUT ANY POTENTIAL CONVERSATION, IN A LOT OF CASES, FOR A PUBLIC [02:00:02] PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT MAY BE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN. SO, IT MAY HAVE BEEN AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE WITH THIS BEING SET UP, BUT IT JUST PUTS US IN A BAD SPOT BECAUSE YOU SEE THAT RIGHT OFF THE BAT. AND WE GOT TO FIGURE OUT IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE GOING TO NAVIGATE. SO THAT'S THE ONE EXAMPLE THAT I'M AWARE OF SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE. RAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SHARE IN ADDITION TO THAT. WELL AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THIS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP GOING TO A BALLOT IS SIMILAR TO A PID, WHEREIN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THE NORM. REALLY. MOST COUNCILS ARE ELECTED TO MAKE DECISIONS, AND NORMALLY IN MOST COMMUNITIES IT DOESN'T GO. TO THE VOTE. RIGHT. THE COUNCILS MAKE THESE TYPES OF DECISIONS. RIGHT, RAY? THAT'S CORRECT. YOU KNOW, IN THE PROJECT THAT JAMES WAS TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE MET WITH THAT COMPANY, THEY WERE ALREADY WE ALREADY GAVE THEM A DEVELOPMENT TIMELINE OF 24 MONTHS. IF THEY IF THEY HAD A DECISION TODAY, IT WOULD TAKE THEM 24 MONTHS BEFORE THEY COULD EVEN START PUTTING A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND. AND SO, WHEN YOU ADD ANOTHER SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR ON AN ELECTION, IT LITERALLY TOOK IT TO WHERE THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WOULD RATHER GO TO A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY. AND THEY ACTUALLY MOVED THE PROJECT OVER TO ALLEN. AND SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE WERE ON THIS, THIS SITUATION. IT WE ALREADY HAVE A REALLY STRINGENT DEVELOPMENT LENGTH OF PROCESS. AND SO, IN THAT THIS JUST ADDS THAT MUCH MORE TIME TO IT IN ANY KIND OF PROJECT LIKE THIS. WHAT WERE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THIS PROPOSAL THAT MADE IT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP? THEY WERE LOOKING AT A CONVENTION CENTER TO BE, UH, OPERATED WITH THE CITY IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN. WHY CAN'T WE PUT THAT TO THE VOTERS? LIKE, HOW ABOUT IF WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR A CONVENTION CENTER? LET'S GET THEIR VOTE ON THAT. THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT THE CURRENT CHARTER IS ASKING FOR, RIGHT? AND IN THAT PARTICULAR CASE, THEY JUST DIDN'T THEY COULDN'T SEE HAVING THAT MUCH TIME ADDED TO THE PROJECT. BUT CAN WE DO THAT NOW FOR THE NEXT TIME THIS COMES FORWARD? IF WE WANTED TO JUST AUTHORIZE CERTAIN THINGS, LIKE A CONVENTION CENTER, THAT SEEMS LIKE WE WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT THAT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS? YES, SIR. I MEAN, YOU COULD YEAH, YOU COULD PUT THAT IF YOU WANT SPECIFIC THINGS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS, YOU COULD DO THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING, PUT THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING IDEA. BUT INSTEAD OF SAYING PUT A CONVENTION CENTER IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS, WHY DON'T WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT THINGS THAT ARE NOT AS DESIRABLE AND ALLOW THOSE THINGS TO BE BROUGHT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS? A CONVENTION CENTER, I WOULD THINK, COULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL, DEPENDING ON WHERE IT IS AND HOW WE'RE ALLOWED TO USE IT AS A TOWN. UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION, MAYBE TALK ABOUT THINGS WE LIKE AND THEN WHAT ARE SOME THINGS WE REALLY DON'T WANT THAT REALLY SHOULD GO TO THE VOTERS? DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? I'M SAYING THAT INSTEAD OF TAKING AWAY THIS COMPLETELY AND OPENING THE DOOR TO WHO KNOWS WHAT, BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS ONE EXAMPLE, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO PROVE IT. ADAM. IT'S NOT IT DOESN'T OPEN THE DOOR TO WHO KNOWS WHAT, BECAUSE. OH, IT DOES. WELL, THEN YOU GUYS GET TO EXERCISE YOUR VOTE AS THE COUNCIL MEMBER TO STILL APPROVE THE PARTNERSHIP, RIGHT? THE VOTERS IN 2012 DIDN'T WANT THAT. THEY WANTED IT TO HAVE A SAY IN IT DIRECTLY. SO WHY NOT GIVE THEM THEIR SAY IN THIS SCENARIO THAT WE'VE JUST FOUND IS BECAUSE THERE COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF OTHER PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE DON'T THINK ARE SUCH. WELL, AND CHUCK'S NOT HERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ONE THAT I RECALL, WHICH IS MUCH SMALLER, WAS HAVING TO DO WITH FIELD 11 AND THE MIRACLE LEAGUE BECAUSE ALL THE OTHER THE MAJORITY OF MIRACLE LEAGUE FIELDS LIKE IN SOUTHLAKE, HAVE A PUBLIC PARTNER PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WITH LIKE BASEBALL TEAMS. AND WE CAN'T DO THAT IN FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO THE BALLOT. AND THEY WEREN'T WILLING TO INVEST THOSE NONPROFIT DOLLARS IN TRYING TO DO THAT. SO, IT'S NOT JUST FOR DEVELOPERS, IT'S ALSO IMPACTING OUR COMMUNITY. AND ALSO, ON THE 2012 EDITION OF THIS, I THINK WE CAN RECOGNIZE THAT OUR TOWN HAS A PENDULUM OF POLITICAL SWAY. AND I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE THE HISTORY MEMORIZED. BUT IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IN 2012 IT WAS COMPLETELY ANTI-DEVELOPMENT, AND SO EVERY MEASURE WAS PUT IN PLACE TO PREVENT ANYTHING LIKE THIS FROM MOVING FORWARD. IT'S POSSIBLE. SO, I THINK IT JUST WOULD OPEN THE DOOR A LITTLE BIT MORE. WE STILL GET TO VOTE ON IT. AND WE ARE AND PEOPLE VOTE INDIRECTLY BY VOTING FOR US AND GIVING THEIR VOTE OF CONFIDENCE TO OUR DECISION MAKING ARE CRITICAL AND ANALYTICAL, THOUGHTFUL PROCESS AND OUR DECISION MAKING. SO, WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS I. AND BEFORE I WAS ELECTED TO COUNCIL. I DO KNOW I DON'T REMEMBER THE PARTICULARS, BUT I DO REMEMBER THERE WAS ANOTHER CASE WHERE WE LOST OUT ON AN INVESTMENT IN TOWN BECAUSE THE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WAS NOT PERMITTED. AND WHAT I WOULD ALMOST LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IS, IS. OKAY, SO THE TIME DELAY IN THE HOOPS TO JUMP THROUGH ARE SIGNIFICANT FOR A COMPANY WHERE THEY MAY NOT WANT TO HAVE IT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE ABOUT THIS AS BEING A VERY COMPETITIVE AREA. AND IF YOU WON'T, YOU KNOW, DEAL WITH US, THEN WE'LL GO ELSEWHERE. OR IF YOU'RE YOUR TIMELINES, YOUR PROCESSES ARE TOO PROTRACTED, WE'LL GO ELSEWHERE [02:05:05] BECAUSE WE'LL GO NEXT DOOR TO ANOTHER COMMUNITY AND SO FORTH. SO, UM, WHAT IF WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING THIS COME BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT WITH THE CAVEATS? BECAUSE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE GOOD WITH. BUT RATHER THEN LET'S MAKE THAT A SUPERMAJORITY THAT YOU HAVE TO DO. BUT IT STAYS AT COUNCIL. YEAH. MAKE IT SUPERMAJORITY FOR SUPERMAJORITY. IF THERE ARE PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE AGREE MAKE SENSE? THEN LET'S GET THOSE IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS FOR APPROVAL BEFORE THE DEAL COMES FORWARD. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WE HAVEN'T SENT ANYTHING TO THE VOTERS. WE'VE WE HAVEN'T EVEN TRIED. LET'S SEND A CONVENTION CENTER TO THE VOTERS AND LET THEM AUTHORIZE IT. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE WE WON'T STRIP AWAY THE ENTIRE CHARTER. WHO'S GOING TO PAY FOR THAT? RIGHT? I MEAN, ALSO A CONVENTION CENTER. THEN WE CAN WE HAVE PERMISSION TO GO FIND ONE. WELL, THEN THE ARRAY IS EMPOWERED BACKWARDS. RAY IS EMPOWERED TO DO THAT. YES. IT'S THIS IS WHAT THE CHARTER REQUIRES. LET'S BE LET'S MOVE ON IT AND NOT JUST WAIT AND THEN COMPLAIN THAT WE'RE TAKING TOO LONG. LET'S TAKE ACTION. NOW. WE ALSO IN THIS CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, WE PUT EMPHASIS ON NOT PUTTING TOO MANY THINGS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS. SO HERE WE GO PUTTING MANY MORE THINGS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS. OH, DO YOU WANT CONVENTION CENTERS YES OR NO? DO YOU WANT A HOSPITAL YES OR NO? DO YOU WANT A BASEBALL FIELD? THIS IS THE CHARTER TELLS US TO PUT THIS IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS. THAT'S WHY WE WANT TO CHANGE IT. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY, ADDED TO 11 YEARS AGO, ALMOST 12 YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT AND I WOULD SAY IT WAS PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE COUNCIL THAT WAS IN PLACE AT THAT POINT THAT THEY PROPOSED DOING THIS. BUT I WILL ALSO SAY IS THAT COUNCIL WAS PRETTY WELL VOTED OUT OF OFFICE IN 2012. COMPLETELY. SO HOW MANY? SINCE WE'VE CHANGED THE CHARTER? UM, BACK THEN, HOW MANY TIMES HAVE WE ACTUALLY PUT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP ON A BALLOT SINCE THIS WAS CHANGED? ZERO. BECAUSE NO ONE WANTS TO. SO, IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE IN PROHIBITING PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. LET'S PUT SOMETHING ON THE BALLOT FOR THE TYPE OF PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WE WANT TO ENGAGE IN AND GET THE APPROVAL DONE FOR THAT SPECIFICALLY. YES. SPECIFIC EXAMPLES. CONVENTION CENTER. YOU'RE BASICALLY LET'S DO A SPECULATIVE. YEAH. WELL, LET'S GET THE PREAUTHORIZATION IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS KNOCKED OUT. AND THEN YOU'RE EMPOWERED. AND MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN A YEAR OR FIVE YEARS. BUT SO JUST A THOUGHT, I MEAN, AND I KNOW WE'RE UP AGAINST THE CLOCK AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BY FEBRUARY 5TH. WE CAN CERTAINLY TAKE A LOOK. BUT I THINK A PUBLIC, PRIVATE, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP SAY THAT THREE TIMES FAST IT. THERE'S A WIDE GAMUT OF WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE INHERENT PROBLEM. IF WE GO IN THERE AND START SAYING, WELL, CONVENTION CENTER, WE COULD DO THAT, AND THEN DOES THAT OPPORTUNITY MANIFEST AGAIN? MAYBE IT DOES, MAYBE IT DOESN'T. I THINK WHAT WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IS GO AND TAKE A LOOK AND JUST MAYBE GIVE YOU ALL AN EXAMPLE OF THE BREADTH AND SCOPE OF SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE OUT THERE. I WASN'T OBVIOUSLY I WASN'T HERE AT THE TIME. SO, I DON'T KNOW THE SPECIFIC PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP THAT RAISED THE CONCERN TO PUT IT IN A CHARTER IN THE FIRST PLACE. BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE CAN GO AND TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE I THINK THERE ARE SOME PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT ARE ADVANTAGEOUS, PUTS THE TOWN IN A POSITION TO SAVE MONEY ON CAPITAL PROJECTS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE. I THINK THOSE ARE THINGS THAT EVERYBODY WOULD AGREE WOULD BE BENEFICIAL POTENTIALLY. SO GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY. WE CAN GO AND LOOK AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL TOGETHER. MAYBE WE CAN BRING IT ON THE 16TH OR THE 18TH OF JANUARY TO SEE IF WE CAN SCOPE IT OUT. I THINK BROADLY, WE CAN GO IN AND SAY, ARE YOU GOOD WITH CONVENTION CENTERS UNTIL THE NEXT THING COMES UP, THAT KIND OF HITS A ROADBLOCK. AND THEN WE I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK THE EXPECTATION IS WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE VOTERS SAY, ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? ARE YOU GOOD WITH THIS? I THINK IF WE CAN SOMEHOW GET THAT UNIVERSE TOGETHER, MAYBE WE CAN IDENTIFY A BLOCK OR AN AREA WHERE WE FEEL COMFORTABLE CARVING THIS OUT AND HAVING THE REST GO TO THE VOTERS. SO LET US DO SOME HOMEWORK ON THAT AND SEE WHAT WE CAN PULL TOGETHER. AND ALSO, CAN YOU MAYBE FLESH OUT THE IDEA OF THE SUPERMAJORITY? SURE. THANK YOU. I MENTIONED THIS TO THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION, BUT A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT OUR FIRM WORKED ON IN MANSFIELD ARE BIG LEAGUE DREAMS AND HAWAIIAN FALLS. THOSE ARE BOTH PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS THAT WERE MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE ABILITY TO DO SO. AND SOMETHING THAT BERNIE AND I DISCUSSED EARLIER TODAY IS IN THE EVENT THAT THERE IS NO CONSENSUS ON ONE DIRECTION OR THE OTHER, YOU ALL CAN VOTE ON THE BALLOT ITEMS SEPARATELY. SO, THIS IS ONE THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE I AM HEARING 2 OR 3 DIFFERENT THINGS, AND BRYNN AND I CAN WORK TOGETHER TO CRAFT THOSE, AND THAT WAY IT JUST KIND OF COMES TO A VOTE IN WHICH WAY YOU ALL GO FORWARD. UM, AND THAT MAY BE AN EASIER PATH GIVEN, AS JAMES SAYS, WE ARE RUNNING UP AGAINST A CLOCK HERE WITH THE TIMING FOR NEEDING TO CALL THE ELECTION. SO, THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE. AND, YOU KNOW, UNTIL SOMETHING DIFFERENT COMES LATER DOWN THE ROAD. BUT WE'RE GOING TO START TO SHARPEN OUR PENCILS AND WORK ON SOME BALLOT LANGUAGE BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE THIS EVENING TO PREPARE TO COME BEFORE YOU ALL ON [02:10:03] FEBRUARY 5TH AND MAYBE FILL IN SOME BLANKS, LIKE WHAT JAMES WAS SAYING IN BETWEEN THERE IF NEED BE. BUT IN THE INTEREST OF KEEPING THE BALL ROLLING BECAUSE FEBRUARY 5TH IS HERE BEFORE WE KNOW IT AND GIVEN LEGAL SOME TIME IN MY OFFICE AND JAMES'S OFFICE, SOME TIME TO REVIEW THAT AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE GOOD LANGUAGE, THAT IS VERY CLEAR FOR THE VOTERS, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS IMPORTANT FOR YOU ALL, FOR US TO COMMUNICATE AS WELL. AND FOR THE SINCE THIS WASN'T THAT LONG AGO, CAN YOU GET THOSE MEETING MINUTES AND FIGURE OUT WHY EXACTLY? OR IF THERE WAS A USE CASE THAT COUNCIL WAS REFERENCING? AND THEY ADDED THIS FOR THAT REASON. AND WE HAVE, IN FACT, THE VIDEO OF THE HISTORY OF WHEN THAT WAS DISCUSSED. AND HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU ALL EMAIL AND JUST GET YOUR POPCORN. AND IT'S A LONG ONE. BUT FORTUNATELY, WE DO HAVE THE VIDEO GOING BACK TO THAT TIMING, SOME OF THE HISTORY AND THE DISCUSSION. SO HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. THIS JUST AGAIN OUTLINES THE NEXT STEPS. THE NEW AMENDMENTS, FUTURE MEETING DATES. AS JAMES SAID, WE DO HAVE A COUPLE MEETING DATES, BUT I THINK IN THE INTEREST OF GETTING THAT BALL ROLLING, WE'RE GOING TO START SOONER THAN LATER. AND THEN YOU ALL CALL THE ELECTION ON FEBRUARY 5TH, ALONG WITH THE OTHER ITEMS, AS DEPENDING ON HOW THINGS GO. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME OR THE TEAM? WE'VE GOT? YOU'VE GOT DIRECTION, THOUGH, ON EVERY ITEM EXCEPT THE LAST ITEM. CORRECT. AND THAT ONE. I THINK THAT WE WILL BRING FORWARD WHERE YOU ALL VOTE INDEPENDENTLY ON THAT ONE, SINCE I DIDN'T REALLY GET CONSENSUS ON THAT ONE AS WELL AS TWO OPTIONS. SO. I'M GOOD. SO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING THAT. SO, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE. WHAT WAS THE LAST STATEMENT ABOUT WHERE WE PROVIDE INPUT INDEPENDENTLY? THE LAST TIME WHERE THERE WAS NOT A CONSENSUS AS FAR AS THAT GOES, YOU CAN VOTE INDEPENDENTLY ON THOSE BALLOT ITEMS. WE CAN HAVE THE LANGUAGE CRAFTED AND YOU CAN VOTE INDEPENDENTLY INSTEAD OF ONE VOTE FOR ALL THE CHARTER AMENDMENT ITEMS COMING FOR THE BALLOT. YOU CAN VOTE INDEPENDENTLY ON JUST ONE BALLOT ITEM INSTEAD OF GROUPING THEM ALL TOGETHER, WHICH WE OFTEN DO. LINE ITEM. VETO. YEAH, PEOPLE. THAT'S FINE. IT'S, I THINK, IT'S BETTER ANYWAY. ANYTHING ELSE FOR STAFF ON THIS ONE? ALL RIGHT. SO, THEN WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE. [K.3. Economic Development Incentive Policy - Public Hearing to consider approval of a resolution adopting updates to the Economic Development Incentive Policy for the Town of Flower Mound, and providing for an effective date.] ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT POLICY. MR. RAY WATSON STILL UP FRONT. AS A REMINDER, HE'S THE DIRECTOR OF OUR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GROUP. DEPARTMENT GROUP. YES. DIVISION. DEPARTMENT. MAYOR, COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. AS YOU'RE WELL AWARE OF, WE HAVE TO BRING THIS IN FRONT OF YOU EVERY TWO YEARS PER STATE LAW. AND IT REQUIRES US TO BASICALLY LOOK AT OUR INCENTIVES AGREEMENT AND MAKE ANY UPDATES THAT NEED TO BE DONE TO THAT. AND WORKING WITH BRYNN'S OFFICE AS WELL AS THE TEAM TOWN MANAGER'S OFFICE, WE HAVE MADE A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THIS POLICY THAT REALLY REFLECT WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN HERE AND TRYING TO MATCH THE INCENTIVES THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVING OUT TO THE ACTUAL POLICY AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, AS WE GO FORWARD, WE'RE ACTUALLY KIND OF ADHERING TO THIS. IT IS A GUIDELINE, AND ALL INCENTIVES ARE DISCRETIONARY AT THE END OF THE DAY. BUT THIS DOES SERVE AS THE GUIDELINE FOR THOSE INCENTIVES. AS YOU LOOK IN THERE, AS IT SAYS HERE, THE CHANGES WERE MADE IN TAX ABATEMENT FOR REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY AMOUNTS, MEDIUM WAGE PERCENTAGES FOR SALARIES AND SALES TAX AND HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX, REBATE PERCENTAGES. ALL OF THOSE HAVE BEEN UPDATED I CAN SHOW YOU RIGHT HERE. THIS IS THE BASIC LANGUAGE THAT BRYNN'S OFFICE UPDATED JUST REALLY TO MATCH SOME OF THE STUFF THAT'S GOING ON IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TODAY. THESE ARE THE ACTUAL PERCENTAGES THAT WERE CHANGED. AND WHAT WE TRIED TO DO WAS TO MAKE THAT 50% KIND OF THE CAP ON ANY INCENTIVES ON PROPERTY TAX ABATEMENT AND, AND THEN WORK IT DOWN FROM THERE. AND THAT WAS KIND OF OUR INTENT BECAUSE EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS HAS KIND OF BEEN AT THAT 50% CAP ON TAX ABATEMENTS FOR THE REAL ESTATE. AND THEN THAT CAN BE INCREASED BY UP TO 10%, AS YOU SEE WHAT OUR INTENT HERE WAS TO CHANGE THAT DOWN TO 10%, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY JOBS THAT CREATED. AND THEN THE NEXT SECTION THAT YOU SEE UNDER WAGES, WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO WAS MAKE THAT MIRROR WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENS WITH MOST STATE GROUPS. ALMOST EVERY EDC AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT ACROSS THE STATE REQUIRED TO BE 115% WAGES OF THE COUNTY. AND SO, WE WENT AHEAD AND MADE THAT THE ACTUAL NUMBER AND JUST CLEARING UP THE LANGUAGE MORE THAN ANYTHING ON THAT. THE NEXT SECTION IS BECAUSE SALES TAX HAS BECOME SUCH A MAJOR PART OF OUR INCENTIVE [02:15:02] PACKAGE. WE PULLED THAT AS WELL AS HOT TAX OUT OF THERE. THE HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX. WE ARE GETTING MORE REQUESTS FOR THAT. GIVEN THAT WE HAVE MORE HOTELS STARTING TO COME ONLINE AND LOOKING AT COMING ONLINE. WHAT WE DECIDED IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER FOR YOU, THOUGH, IS BECAUSE YOU INCENTIVIZED THE INITIAL HOTEL AT 100% IN ORDER TO GET THAT HOTEL HERE. SINCE THAT HOTEL IS HERE AND OTHER HOTELS ARE COMING ON BOARD, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS LOOKING NO MORE THAN A 50% HOTEL OCCUPANCY TAX GOING FORWARD FROM HERE. AND THEN ALSO LOOKING AT THE SALES TAX STAYING AT 50%. AND ALL OF THIS IS GEARED TOWARDS MAKING SURE THE TOWN IS RECEIVING THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY AS WHAT WE'RE GIVING OUT IN INCENTIVES FOR THESE PROJECTS, SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE A BENEFIT BACK TO THE TOWN FOR EACH ONE OF THESE INCENTIVES' PROJECTS. AND THAT IS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE CHANGES. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR THOUGHTS? MR. MEREDITH CAN ANSWER FOR THEIR SIDE ON THE LANGUAGE THEY CHANGED AS WELL. COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I MEAN, TO ME IT SOUNDS MORE RESTRICTIVE, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S MORE FAVORABLE TO THE TOWN. YEAH. ADAM. ANYONE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH. THANK YOU. SO, THE TIME IS 9:12 AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM THREE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY. THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS? FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE. NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? FOR ITEM NUMBER THREE, PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS 9:12 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COUNCIL FOR ANY MORE DISCUSSION. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. MOVE APPROVAL OF REGULAR ITEM K-3 AS PRESENTED. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND TWO SECONDS. IS THERE ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. ITEM NUMBER THREE. ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE POLICY PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. AND MOVING ON. [K.4. ZPD23-0004 - Titensor Dental - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD23-0004 – Titensor Dental) to amend Planned Development No. 64 (PD-64) with Office District and Retail District-1 uses to modify the conceptual plans, add conceptual elevations, and modify the development standards, with certain modifications and exceptions to the Code of Ordinances. The property is generally located west of Long Prairie Road and north of Bob White Lane. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 0 at its December 11, 2023, meeting.)] OPENING ITEM NUMBER FOUR. XPD 23-0004. AND ITEM NUMBER FIVE, TRP 23-0018. TITANOSAUR DENTAL STARTING US OFF WITH A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MISS LEXIN MURPHY, ALSO OUR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. MR. WOODS, I HAVE A NOTE. THERE HE IS. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN YOU THIS EVENING. I'VE BEEN HERE THE WHOLE TIME, THOUGH I KNOW YOU'RE USUALLY JUST SO MUCH EARLIER. LET'S GO. THANK YOU. MAYOR. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT. IT'S A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT. THIS WAS A PREVIOUS ZONING CASE, UM, THAT HAD BEEN CREATED A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, BACK WHEN THE TOWN STILL HAD THE SPA OR IN PLACE. AND SO, I THINK THERE WERE SOME CONDITIONS IN HERE THAT WERE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC TO THE SPA LANGUAGE. HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. YOU CAN SEE IT'S ON THE WEST SIDE OF LONG PRAIRIE, UM, NORTH OF BOBWHITE LANE. THIS IS ANGEL VET HERE THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT'S KIND OF SURROUNDED BY THE SUBJECT SITE. AND THEN TO THE NORTH IS THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED. HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW OF THE PROPERTY. THE LAND USE IS OFFICE AND RETAIL. AND THE ZONING AGAIN IS PD 64. PREVIOUS ZONING WITH OFFICE AND RETAIL ONE USES. AND SO, THERE AREN'T ANY CHANGES BEING PROPOSED TO THE USES THAT ARE ALLOWED. THERE IS AN EXCEPTION THAT'S BEING REQUESTED WITH THIS, THOUGH. THAT'S AN EXCEPTION TO THE TOWN'S ENGINEERING DESIGN CRITERIA TO ALLOW FOR RETAINING WALLS GREATER THAN THREE FEET OF EXPOSED FACE. AND SO TYPICALLY, THE TOWN STANDARD WOULD REQUIRE YOU CAN ONLY GO UP THREE FEET AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO OUT AGAIN. UM, THEY ARE REQUESTING THE ABILITY TO GO UP SIX FEET. AND THE REASON FOR THAT BEING WHAT THEY DISCUSSED AT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION WAS, UM, AND I CAN SHOW YOU WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE CONCEPT PLAN, BUT IN ORDER TO SAVE SOME MORE OF THE PROTECTED TREES THAT ARE ON THE SIDES THEY WANTED TO GO DEEPER RATHER THAN SPREADING OUT. THEY'D HAVE TO SPREAD OUT KIND OF NORTH SOUTH AND WOULD IMPACT SOME OF THE TREES. SO, THEY REQUESTED THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE EXCEPTION, BUT WITH THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT MATCH WHAT WAS APPROVED FOR EMBREE. AND SO, THE ORDINANCE WAS UPDATED TO INCLUDE LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IF THAT WALL WILL GO ABOVE THREE FEET, THEN THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A WROUGHT IRON FENCE PUT IN PLACE THAT WOULD MATCH THE DETAIL THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THE EMBREE DEVELOPMENT. [02:20:04] SOME OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT ARE INCLUDED WITHIN THIS TO THAT PD 64 TO PERMIT METAL AS AN ALLOWED MATERIAL, INCLUDING DARK GRAY. THE POND MAINTENANCE DETAILS. THIS IS JUST THINGS THAT THE TOWN WANTS TO SEE PUT INTO THE ZONING. ALSO, TO ALLOW FLAT ROOFS ON BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVER 15,000FT². THAT WOULD MATCH THE TOWN'S CURRENT URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES. IF IT'S OVER 15,000FT² WE WOULD TYPICALLY NOW ALLOW THAT TO HAVE A FLAT ROOF. SO, THEY WANT TO MATCH THE TOWN'S NORMAL STANDARD. AND ALSO, THEY'RE REQUESTING MASONRY REQUIREMENT OF 85% PER FACADE. AGAIN, THE TOWN'S TYPICAL STANDARD. WE REQUEST THAT PEOPLE DO AT LEAST 80% PER FACADE, SO THEY WOULD STILL BE EXCEEDING THE TOWN'S TYPICAL STANDARD. AND THEN REMOVAL OF THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE 27-FOOT ACCESS DRIVE AND THE ASSOCIATED SCREENING. AND INSTEAD, THEY WANT TO PUT IN A 31FT ACCESS EASEMENT THAT WILL ALIGN WITH THESE NEW DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED. BASICALLY, AGAIN, I CAN SHOW YOU ON THE PLAN, BUT THE PREVIOUS PLAN HAD IT ALL THE WAY OVER ON THE WEST SIDE, AND THAT'S NOT WHERE THE ACCESS EASEMENT IS DESIGNED TO GO ANYMORE. AND THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE TO THE TOWN'S BENEFIT IN THAT THE NEW STANDARD WOULD REQUIRE IT TO BE THAT 31FT INSTEAD OF THE 27. THAT'S WHAT ENGINEERING PREFERS. SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE CONCEPT PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE 31FT ACCESS EASEMENT WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING IT NOW. IN THE BUILDINGS A LITTLE OVER 15,000FT², AROUND 15,500. UM, THEY WOULD TYPICALLY BE REQUIRED TO HAVE 79 PARKING SPACES WITH A MEDICAL OFFICE. THEY'RE PROPOSING 87. SO THAT'S WITHIN THAT 20% DEVIATION. COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM THE SITE. THIS IS LOOKING NORTHWEST. HERE WE ARE LOOKING NORTHEAST. THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST. AND THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY NORTH A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE SITE WHERE THE ACTUAL BUILDING WOULD BE PROPOSED. SO, THE BUILDING IS A DENTAL OFFICE IS WHAT IS PROPOSED. THERE AREN'T ANY IMMEDIATE PLANS TO DEVELOP THE OTHER PROPERTY. THAT'S ACTUALLY CLOSER TO 24.99. BESIDES WITH THE RETENTION POND. SO, THIS JUST SHOWS YOU THAT PREVIOUS CONCEPT PLAN FOR PD 64 THAT WAS APPROVED, THIS BUILDING, ONE SITE, THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REMOVED FROM THIS PD. IT WAS TURNED INTO ITS OWN SEPARATE PD FOR ANGEL VET. AND SO, THIS WAS KIND OF THE REMAINING SPACE WHAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ENVISIONED. AND SO AGAIN HERE'S WHERE THAT ACCESS EASEMENT WAS GOING TO GO. BUT AGAIN, THAT DOESN'T LINE UP ANYMORE. SO HERE IS THAT CURRENT CONCEPT PLAN. THEY'RE STILL PUTTING IN THE TRAIL ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE AND MEETING ALL OF THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS. HERE'S THE CONCEPT LANDSCAPE PLAN. YOU CAN SEE THE RETENTION POND PUT IN PLACE THERE. THERE IS A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ASSOCIATED WITH THIS REQUEST AS WELL. SO, THERE ARE FOUR SPECIMEN TREES ON THE SITE. THEY'RE REQUESTING TO REMOVE TWO. THE APPLICANT DID INDICATE THAT IT WAS THEIR GOAL TO TRY TO SAVE THEM. BUT JUST STAFF REQUIRING THEM TO REQUEST THE APPROVAL ANYWAY, BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE IT WAS NOT LIKELY THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO BE SAVED. AND SO, THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. THE DETENTION OR RETENTION POND WOULD HAVE TO MOVE NORTH AND SOUTH. IT WOULD HAVE TO EXPAND OUT IF IT DIDN'T GO DEEPER. HERE'S THE CONCEPT. ELEVATIONS. AND THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THE PRIMARY MASONRY PERCENTAGES EXCEEDING 85% OR MORE ON ALL FOUR FACADES. LEXIN. SORRY, MAYBE I MISSED IT. IF YOU COULD GO BACK. TWO MORE SLIDES FOR THE RETENTION POND. I DIDN'T SEE ANYWHERE IN HERE. BUT. ARE THEY? SO, WE'RE REQUIRING THEM TO PUT IN THE I MEAN, WE CAN'T JUST LEAVE THE LAND THE WAY IT IS AND LET THEM PUT THE DENTAL OFFICE IN THE BACK. NO. THEY'RE REQUIRED. THEY NEED TO HAVE THE RETENTION POND TO SERVE THE SITE. OKAY. ENGINEERING. I MEAN, I GUESS I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS LIKE WAY IN THE BACK AND BUT THAT MIGHT BE THEY DO THAT, THEN WE LOSE TWO TREES OR WE JUST LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS, WHERE THE TREES ARE PERFECTLY HAPPY. BUT THEN YOU CAN HAVE FLOODING. IT HAS TO DO WITH WHERE WATER DRAINS ON THE SITE TO WHERE YOU END UP HAVING TO HAVE THE RETENTION POND, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO PUT IT SOMEWHERE ELSE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO COMPLETELY REGRADE THE SITE TO MAKE WATER DRAIN IN A TOTALLY DIFFERENT DIRECTION. I THINK THIS IS WHERE IT KIND OF NATURALLY DRAINS, AND SO THIS IS WHERE THEY NEED TO HAVE IT. UM, IT'S JUST UNFORTUNATE THAT THAT THERE ARE SOME TREES THERE. SO THEY'RE TRYING TO SAVE THEM AS THEY CAN. AND THAT WAS ALSO WHY THE WALL WAS GOING TO BE DEEPER RATHER THAN ONLY THE THREE FEET. IT'S GOING TO GO DOWN SIX, BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO SAVE THE ONE UP NORTH OF IT TO WHERE WE HAVE THE BIG. [02:25:01] IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE'S GOT A BIG POND IN THE FRONT. I GUESS THAT'S THE WAY WE DO IT. I YEAH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S DRAINAGE. IT'S NATURAL. WE'RE JUST TRYING TO ASK IF WE COULD JUST LEAVE IT ALONE, SO IT LOOKS NICE THE WAY IT IS, BUT APPARENTLY, WE HAVE TO HAVE IT SO. SO LEXIN, YOU SAID THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR FOR THIS PLAN. THEY'RE NOT PLANNING ON DEVELOPING THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY AT ALL. THAT'S CORRECT. I MEAN, NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WILL NEVER DEVELOP IT. THERE'S THERE ARE NO PLANS TO WITH THIS PROPOSAL. GIVEN THE FACT IT'S GOING TO BE SOMEWHAT LIMITED IN SIZE, I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S EVER GOING TO BE POSSIBLE. BUT YEAH, I'M NOT SURE THAT WAS JUST MY, I MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF MY QUESTION. I GUESS. YEAH. YES, WE NEED IT. WELL, HAVING A POND THERE MAKES IT LESS LIKELY TO BE DEVELOPED IN THE FUTURE. AND HONESTLY, HAVING THIS BIG OPEN SPACE HERE ON THE FRONT OF THIS IS A PRETTY ATTRACTIVE TO ME, YOU KNOW, VERSUS THAT UGLY HOUSE THAT'S THERE NOW OR SOME, YOU KNOW, LIKE A BOARDED-UP HOUSE. SO, IF TAKE THE HOUSE DOWN, BUT WE DON'T NEED TO TAKE OUT THE TREES, YOU KNOW, IF THIS APPLICANT IS COMMITTING TO NOT DEVELOPING THIS FRONT PROPERTY, THAT'S A REALLY NICE SELLING POINT. YEAH. SO, IT'S REALLY ATTRACTIVE, I THINK, WITH THE WET DETENTION POND. I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE PEOPLE PUT IN PONDS WHERE THEY'RE NOT NEEDED. I KNOW IT JUST. I'M SORRY. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE EVERYONE HAS ONE OF THESE PONDS NOW IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTY FOR SIX FIGURES FOR A POND THAT I DON'T NEED, I KNOW, BUT. I'M YIELDING TO THE EXPERTS. IT JUST SEEMED LIKE. OKAY, NO, I TOTALLY UNDER I UNDERSTAND, I'M JUST ASKING QUESTIONS HERE. THESE ARE SOME RENDERINGS THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TO GIVE YOU AN, IT'S A LITTLE HARDER TO TELL WHAT IT WOULD REALLY LOOK LIKE FROM THE ELEVATIONS, TO GIVE YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. SO THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION, BUT I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR LEXIN? NO THANK YOU MA'AM. I HAVE A NOTE THAT MR. BRETT, TITANOSAUR FROM TITANOSAUR DENTAL. AND ALSO, TIM SHOEMAKER FROM RTM ENGINEERING. GOOD EVENING, GENTLEMEN. THANK YOU FOR STICKING AROUND. ABSOLUTELY. I'VE LEARNED A LOT TONIGHT. GREAT. WE DO IT TWICE A MONTH. SOMETIMES WITH THE WORK SESSION, TOO. I WON'T BE BACK. UM. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU, COUNCIL, FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. UM, I'M BRETT TITTENSOR, A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND. UH, MY ADDRESS IS 4409 DAY DRIVE. UM, I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A BACKGROUND OF THE PROJECT AND KIND OF THE VISION BEHIND IT. AND THE REASON WHY I THINK THIS WILL BE A GREAT, UM, DEVELOPMENT FOR FLOWER MOUND AND FOR THE FUTURE OF MY FAMILY. AND THAT'S. AND MY DENTAL PRACTICE THAT'S BEEN SERVING THE COMMUNITY FOR THE PAST 37 YEARS. UM, FAMILY, WE ALL LIVE HERE, IN FACT. UM, FEEL LUCKY THIS YEAR. I HAVE THREE KIDS ALL IN ONE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL AT BRIDLEWOOD ELEMENTARY. I HIT THE SWEET SPOT. UM, NEXT YEAR IS GOING TO BE CHAOS. SO, UM, I'M GOING TO NEED SOME CARPOOLING, UM, TIPS. BUT, UM, FAMILIES LIVED HERE. I'VE GREW UP IN THE AREA. JUST ABSOLUTELY LOVE FLOWER MOUND AND REALLY WANT TO INVEST INTO THE COMMUNITY. UM, A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND OF TITTENSOR DENTAL. MY DAD STARTED THE PRACTICE 37 YEARS AGO. I JOINED HIM TEN YEARS AGO. HE HAS SINCE RETIRED AND I TOOK OVER THE PRACTICE. WE. CURRENTLY OUR OFFICE IS IN A STRIP CENTER, UM, NEXT TO CHICK FIL A IN CULVERS, AND IT'S AN AGING STRIP CENTER. UM, WE DO SOME PRETTY UNIQUE DENTISTRY THERE. UM, SOME OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT WE OFFER, UM, SOME THE COSMETICS AND IMPLANTS IS, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF A KIND. AND I THINK WE WANT TO BUILD A PRACTICE THAT REFLECTS THAT. UM, AS YOU CAN SEE WITH KIND OF THE DESIGN. IF ANYBODY'S EVER BEEN TO A DENTAL OFFICE, THEY CAN BE A NERVE WRACKING, UH, STRESSFUL EXPERIENCE. AND I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE PEACEFUL, UH, THE PEACE THAT NATURE CAN BRING HELPS ALLEVIATE THAT. YOU KNOW, JUST RIDING THE TRAILS AND FLOWER MOUND JUST BRINGS THAT SENSE OF TRANQUILITY. AND SO I REALLY WANT TO BRING THAT WITH THIS DENTAL PRACTICE. UM, YOU KNOW, A PHOTO THAT I LOVE. IS THIS RIGHT HERE REASON WHY WE'RE REQUESTING FLAT ROOF IS I WANT AS MINIMAL FOOTPRINT ON THE LANDSCAPE AS POSSIBLE. AS YOU HEARD, I WANT TO SAVE TREES. I'M ON YOUR SIDE, MAYOR. IF WE COULD SAVE MORE TREES. UM, I THINK AN ATTRACTIVE POND COULD ALSO LOOK NICE, BUT I JUST WANT THE AREA TO LOOK. LOOK GREEN AND BEAUTIFUL. AND I THINK THE TREES, ESPECIALLY AT THIS SPOT, I WANT TO SAVE, UM, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. UM, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, UH, ONE OF A KIND DENTAL PRACTICE. RIGHT NOW, I TRAIN DENTISTS AROUND THE US ON HOW TO USE SOME OF THE DENTAL TECHNOLOGY, WHICH REQUIRES ME TO TRAVEL A LOT. THE IDEA IS WE'RE GOING TO BRING THEM HERE. UM, IT'S GOING TO ALSO HAVE A TRAINING CENTER WHERE WHERE DENTISTS FROM AROUND THE [02:30:03] US WILL COME TO FLOWER MOUND, UM, STAY IN THEIR HOTELS. UM, WE'LL GO TO YOUR RESTAURANTS AND BE ABLE TO LEARN KIND OF WORLD CLASS DENTISTRY, UM, THAT WE WILL BE PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY AS WELL. UM, SO THAT'S JUST. YEAH, THE JUST THE PROJECT, UM, HERE'S KIND OF THE INTERIOR DESIGN, JUST SO YOU KIND OF GET THE FEEL OF WHAT THIS IS JUST A DEFINITELY A ONE OF A KIND, UNIQUE PLACE THAT I'M HAPPY TO, UM, BRING TO THE COMMUNITY, BRING TO MY PATIENTS AND FUTURE PATIENTS OF FLOWER MOUND. SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. I'LL TURN IT TO HIM. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I WILL. WHEN YOU WERE SHOWING THE SCHEMATIC, I SAW THE CONFERENCE TABLES AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT DENTIST HAS THESE CONFERENCE TABLES? BUT YOU EXPLAINED IT NOW WITH THE TRAINING ASPECT, WHICH I DO THINK IS REALLY UNIQUE AND SPECIAL, AND I THINK IT REALLY HAS A ZEN LIKE QUALITY TO IT. SO HOPEFULLY THAT TRANSLATES TO PATIENTS JUST BEING REALLY CALM. AND YEAH THE DENTAL OFFICE. MHM. SO I REALLY LIKE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING. DO I HAVE YOUR COMMITMENT THAT THAT FRONT PARCEL IS NOT GOING TO BE SOLD OFF, DEVELOPED AND TURN INTO A STARBUCKS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? SO AS THAT IS LIKE WHAT WILL BE ATTRACTIVE TO MY BUILDING AND IT DEFINITELY THE VIEW, I HAVE ZERO PLANS ON DEVELOPING IT RIGHT NOW. UM, I DO WILL OWN IT. UM, I DO NOT HAVE ANY PLANS UM TO DEVELOPMENT I WANT TO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE THE HOUSE DOWN AND I WANT TO LANDSCAPE IT SO IT LOOKS NICE. UM, HAVE SOME REALLY NICE SIGNAGE THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, DISPLAY THE DENTAL OFFICE BACK THERE. UM, BUT, YEAH, NO, NO COMMITMENT OR ANY DEVELOPMENT AT THIS TIME. THE PNC, YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RETAINING THE RETENTION POND. MAYBE THIS IS A QUESTION FOR THE OTHER FELLOW. UM, AND THERE WAS I THINK YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT A THREE FOOT WALL TO KEEP PEOPLE FROM FALLING INTO IT. AND PNC SAID WE WANTED SOMETHING THAT LOOKS MORE LIKE THE, UM, ADJACENT DEVELOPMENT. CAN YOU JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT CHANGE WAS, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR YOU? I DIDN'T TOTALLY FOLLOW WHAT YOU WERE PROPOSING INITIALLY. TIM SHOEMAKER, RTM ENGINEERING, 14901 QUORUM DRIVE, ADDISON, ILLINOIS OR TEXAS? SORRY. WRONG, ADDISON. SO ALL THE DRAINAGE AND THE NATURAL GRADING COMES DOWN TOWARDS LONG PRAIRIE ROAD IN ORDER TO BASICALLY KIND OF USE THE FOUNDATION WHERE THE HOUSE WAS AND KEEP THE FOOTPRINT OF THE PONDS SMALLER. WE WANT TO HAVE THE WATER VOLUME INCREASE IN HEIGHT. IF WE ONLY WERE ABLE TO GO THREE FEET IN WATER VOLUME, IT WOULD GET TWICE AS LARGE OF A FOOTPRINT FROM ABOVE AND WIPE OUT A LOT OF THOSE TREES. THE CONCERN ABOUT THE FENCE. THAT'S JUST ANYTIME YOU HAVE A FALL AREA, I THINK OVER 30IN. THIS IS BUILDING CODE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE, I THINK, A 42 INCH RAILING THAT A FOUR INCH SPHERE CAN'T FIT THROUGH. SO WE WERE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT SOME KIND OF FENCE ON TOP OF IT NO MATTER WHAT. UH, MATCHING EMBRY JUST MAKES SENSE FOR US THAT THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION I WAS LOOKING FOR. THANK YOU. OKAY. UNBELIEVABLY DRAMATIC BUILDING. UM, UNLIKE ANYTHING IN THE FLOWER MOUND. UM, AND I DON'T SEE YOU PUTTING SOMETHING IN FRONT OF IT BECAUSE IT WOULD DETRACT FROM YOUR BUILDING THAT YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING. SO I WOULD ENVISION THAT YOU WOULD KEEP THAT AREA NATURAL UP FRONT. UM, I. VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF IT. COUNCIL ANYBODY ELSE OR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? NO, JUST ECHO WHAT OTHERS HAVE SAID. I THINK IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING. ALMOST LOOKS MORE LIKE A SPA THAN A DENTAL OFFICE. UM, AND I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S A GREAT BUSINESS, GREAT PRACTICE. AND I COMMEND YOU ON DOING A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. ALL RIGHT. SO THE TIME IS NOW 930. AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE AT THE SAME TIME. THERESA DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENT CARDS FOR ITEMS FOUR AND FIVE? I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? FOR ITEMS 4 OR 5, PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS NOW 930 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. OTHERWISE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. CAN YOU ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, OR. THEY NEED TO BE SEPARATE. UH, I NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION SEPARATELY. THEN I MOVE TO APPROVE I REGULAR ITEM K FOUR AS PRESENTED. SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. [02:35:02] PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE. MAYOR. PRO TEM ENGEL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL AYE. ITEM NUMBER FOUR. XPD 20 3-0004. PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER FIVE. [K.5. TRP23-0018 - Titensor Dental - Public Hearing to consider an application for a tree removal permit (TRP23-0018) for two (2) specimen trees on property proposed for development as Titensor Dental. The property is generally located west of Long Prairie Road and north of Bob White Lane. (The Environmental Conservation Commission recommended approval of both specimen trees proposed for removal by a vote of 6-0-0 at its October 3, 2023, meeting.)] I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K5 AS PRESENTED. SECOND ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION. THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. ITEM NUMBER FIVE TRP 20 3-0018. PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. [K.6. ZPD23-0008 - Robertson's Creek Addition Lot 4ARA, Block A Signage Amendment - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD23- 0008- Robertson's Creek Addition Lot 4ARA, Block A Signage Amendment) to amend Planned Development District-95 (PD-95) with Retail District-2 uses by amending the comprehensive sign standards of PD-95 to allow additional signage for Lot 4ARA, Block A. The property is generally located south of Dixon Lane and west of Long Prairie Road at 5891 Long Prairie Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its December 11, 2023, meeting.)] MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX. XPD 20 3-0008 ROBERTSON'S CREEK EDITION. SIGNAGE AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. STAFF PRESENTATION BY MISS LEXIN MURPHY. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. THANK YOU. MAYOR. UM, AS MENTIONED, THIS IS, UH, FOR A SIGNAGE AMENDMENT. IT'S A ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT. JUST BECAUSE THE COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE FOR ROBERTSON'S CREEK WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN INTO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS. SO IN ORDER TO AMEND IT, IT HAS TO BE A XPD AMENDMENT. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE ADDITIONAL SIGNAGE IS BEING REQUESTED. HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW. YOU CAN SEE THIS IS SOUTH OF DIXON AND WEST OF LONG PRAIRIE. THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL AND THE ZONING IS PD 95 WITH RETAIL DISTRICT TWO. USES. SO WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED IS TWO REAR BUILDING SIGNS ON THIS SPECIFIC BUILDING THAT WE POINTED OUT. SO AGAIN, UM, THERE WAS A PREVIOUS COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE THAT WAS APPROVED FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT. AND SO THE ARROWS OR IDENTIFYING THE OTHER BUILDINGS WITHIN THE SITE THAT HAD THIS KIND OF REAR BUILDING SIGNAGE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED AS PART OF THAT ORIGINAL CSP. SO AGAIN, WHEN THE WHEN THE FIRST CSP CAME FORWARD, JUST THESE BUILDINGS THAT WERE KIND OF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DEVELOPMENT ASKED FOR SIGNAGE ON THE BACKS OF THE BUILDINGS AS WELL TO MAKE IT MORE VISIBLE TO PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST, UM, TRAVELING ON THE ROADS, BECAUSE THE TOWN'S TYPICAL, UH, SIGN STANDARDS REALLY ONLY GIVE YOU SIGNAGE WHERE YOU HAVE ROAD FRONTAGE. UM, SO THIS IS JUST THIS ONE BUILDING ON THIS FRONT ROW THAT IS REQUESTING TWO ADDITIONAL SIGNS ON THE REAR OF THAT BUILDING. AND, UM, THEY HAVE INDICATED THAT THEY FEEL LIKE, AGAIN, IT WOULD GIVE THEM MORE, MORE ACCESS, MORE VISIBILITY FROM PEOPLE THAT ARE INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT, SHOPPING THAT THEY MIGHT SEE THAT AND REALIZE THAT THESE FACILITIES WERE ALSO AVAILABLE. SO AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE TO ALLOW FOR A SPECIALIZED REVIEW OF SIGNS THAT MAY HAVE MERITORIOUS DESIGN, SEEK TO PROMOTE A UNIQUE QUALITY FOR AN EXISTING OR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT REQUIRES SPECIAL CONSIDERATION CAN'T BE APPROVED THROUGH THE TOWN'S NORMAL SIGN STANDARDS. UH, HERE IS AN IMAGE OF THE SITE. AND HERE'S ANOTHER IMAGE. SO IT'S THE. THE BFT BODY FITNESS SITE AND THEN ALSO THE SUBWAY. SO HERE IS THE REAR OF THE BUILDINGS WHERE THE SIGNS ARE BEING PROPOSED. AND THEN THIS KIND OF SHOWS THEM SUPERIMPOSED THERE ON THE BUILDING. SO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S JUST THE SUBWAY AND THE BODY FIT TRAINING THAT ARE REQUESTING THE ADDITIONAL SIGNS. THESE ARE THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE SUBWAY SIGN. IT'S AT TEN FEET, FOUR INCHES BY TWO FEET. AND THIS IS A SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE BODY FIT TRAINING SIGN. IT'S A 9.5FT BY AGAIN TWO FEET. SO THOSE PROPOSED SIGN DIMENSIONS DO FALL WITHIN WHAT THE TOWN WOULD NORMALLY ALLOW ON THE BUILDING. THEY'RE JUST ASKING TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM ON THE REAR. THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? I DO HAVE A NOTE, UM, WITH NO PRESENTATION FOR TAYLOR TOMPKINS. WILLOW CREEK SIGNS IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT. NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS 935. I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX. XPD 20 3-0008 THERESA. DO YOU HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX? I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER SIX? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS 935 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE APPROVAL OF REGULAR ITEM K SIX AS PRESENTED. [02:40:01] SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. MARTIN. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL AYE. ITEM NUMBER SIX. XPD 20 3-0008. PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. [K.7. Z23-0002 - The River Walk at Central Park, Promenade Way - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (Z23-0002 - The River Walk at Central Park, Promenade Way) to amend the development standards for The River Walk at Central Park related to Article II - Uses to propose standards for Extended Stay Hotel and to update the conceptual plan exhibits. The property is generally located north of Cross Timbers Road, west of Morriss Road, and east of Long Prairie Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 4 to 2 at its November 13, 2023, meeting.) (Town Council postponed this item to December 18 by a vote of 4 to 0 at its December 4, 2023, meeting.)] MOVING ON. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. THANK YOU GUYS. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN Z 20 3-0002 RIVERWALK AT CENTRAL PARK. STARTING US OFF AGAIN IS MISS LEXIN MURPHY. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. I'M SURE EVERYONE IS FAMILIAR WITH THE RIVERWALK. IT'S, UH, NORTH OF CROSS TIMBERS AND, UH, EAST OF LONG PRAIRIE. I'VE KIND OF TRIED TO OUTLINE AT LEAST THE THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE NOTICED FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY THAT IS INCLUDED WITHIN THE RIVERWALK, BUT WERE THOSE WAS THOSE THAT WERE IMPACTED BY THE REQUEST. HERE IS A MORE DETAILED VIEW. UH, THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS MIXED USE, AND THE ZONING IS CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. THIS IS JUST SHOWING THE CONCEPT SUBJECT SUBDISTRICT MAP. SO THERE ARE THESE SUB DISTRICTS WITHIN THE OVERALL OVERALL RIVERWALK UM ZONING. UH TOWN CENTER IS DISTRICT A COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL IS DISTRICT B UH THE THAT IS REALLY JUST RESIDENTIAL AREA. AND THEN DISTRICT C IS COMMUNITY MIXED USE AND DISTRICT D IS COMMUNITY RETAIL CENTER. I'M JUST POINTING THAT OUT BECAUSE FOR SOME OF THE FUTURE REQUESTS, IT TALKS ABOUT ALLOWING USES WITHIN CERTAIN SUBDISTRICTS. SO THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL AGAIN IS PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE TOWN CENTER. TOWN CENTER DISTRICT. UH, THERE ARE SOME SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO CURRENTLY, UM, WHILE THE TOWN HAS AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL DEFINITION AND, UM REQUIREMENTS DEVELOPMENT, CONSIDER CONDITIONS THAT ARE WITHIN OUR BASE ZONING ORDINANCE. UM, THE RIVERWALK IS ITS OWN STANDALONE ORDINANCE, SO THESE CONDITIONS DON'T AUTOMATICALLY APPLY TO THAT USE. SO, UM, IN THE RIVERWALK ORDINANCE, IT JUST HAS A GENERAL HOTEL, UM, USE THAT WOULD APPLY EVERYWHERE. SO THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO ADD AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL USE TO THE ACTUAL SCHEDULE OF USE REGULATIONS AND TO PERMIT THAT USE AGAIN BASED ON FEEDBACK FROM THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, WHICH THEY WERE, UM, IN AGREEMENT WITH, TO PERMIT IT ONLY IN THE TOWN CENTER SUBDISTRICT, AND THEN THE SPECIAL USE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD APPLY TO THAT OR THAT THE ANY THIS EXTENDED STAY HOTEL WOULD COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF 98 DASH, 103 HOTEL OR MOTEL AND 98 DASH 1004 EXTENDED STAY HOTEL. UM, AND THEN ALSO IT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS. UM, SO IT'S MEETING ALL OF 1004 EXCEPT FOR THE DENSITY. THERE IS A UM, A DENSITY RESTRICTION OF, I THINK ONLY 40 UNITS PER ACRE WITHIN THE TOWN'S UM, BASE REGULATION. THAT IS KIND OF ENVISIONING MORE OF WHERE YOU WOULD TYPICALLY SEE AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL, WHERE IT'S KIND OF LIKE OUT BY THE HIGHWAY, MAYBE, AND, UH, NOT ON AS SMALL FOOTPRINT. AND SO DUE TO THE FACT THAT THIS IS LOCATED WITHIN A MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICANT ASKS TO MODIFY THE DENSITY OF THE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL REGULATION. UM, AND SO. THIS ACTUALLY SAYS THIS IS 105. I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED TO BE 106. SO, WE CAN VERIFY THAT. BUT DENSITY OF RENTAL UNITS BE LIMITED TO 106 IS WHAT THEY'RE NOW ASKING FOR. UM, AND ALSO THAT NO MORE THAN TWO EXTENDED STAY HOTELS WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHIN THE RIVERWALK. SO BEING THERE AS THERE IS AN EXISTING ONE ALREADY IN HOME2 SUITES THIS WOULD BE THE SECOND ONE AND NO ADDITIONAL EXTENDED STAY HOTELS WOULD BE ALLOWED. AND THEN THE HEIGHT OF ANY EXTENDED STAY HOTEL WOULD BE LIMITED TO A MAXIMUM OF FOUR STORIES. SO, THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU WHAT THE TOWN'S BASE EXTENDED STAY HOTEL REGULATIONS ARE. AGAIN, IT HAS THAT DENSITY RESTRICTION. TALKS ABOUT HAVING LAUNDRY FACILITIES ON SITE FOR GUESTS, MAINTAINING BOOKING RECORDS REQUIRES THERE TO BE LARGER ROOMS. THE MINIMUM OF 425FT² INCLUDING SLEEPING AREA, KITCHEN THAT THE KITCHEN HAS KIND OF MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS AS FAR AS THREE MAJOR KITCHEN APPLIANCES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE INSTALLED SURVEILLANCE CAMERAS, KIND OF SOME SPECIFICS ABOUT THOSE 24 HOURS A DAY AND KEEPING RECORDS FOR A MINIMUM OF 30 DAYS. AND THAT WE JUST COMPLY BEING OPERATE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL LAWS AND REQUIREMENTS. AND THEN SO THE HOTEL OR MOTEL STANDARDS WOULD ALSO APPLY. SO, I WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE AT LEAST THREE OF THE AMENITIES KIND OF FROM THAT LIST AS [02:45:04] FAR AS POOL, SPA, FITNESS CENTER, PLAYGROUND, SPORTS COURT PLAZA OR GAME ROOM, OR A CONFERENCE ROOM WITH A MINIMUM OF 1000FT². AND THEN A FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANT WITH A MINIMUM SEATING CAPACITY OF 35 PATRONS ALSO HAS TO HAVE 10% OPEN SPACE UM ON STAFF ON SITE, 24 HOURS A DAY. UM. ALL ROOMS HAVE TO BE ACCESSED FROM INTERIOR CORRIDORS THAT ARE CLIMATE CONTROLLED. AND THEN FIRST, THAT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT. FIRST FLOOR UNITS MAY HAVE SECONDARY ACCESS FROM AN INTERIOR COURTYARD OR SWIMMING POOL, AND THEN HAVING A PORTICO OR COVERED AREA ADJACENT TO THE ENTRANCE. SO AGAIN, THE REASON THAT THIS REQUEST HAD TO COME FORWARD, EVEN THOUGH THE CURRENT USE REGULATIONS FOR THE RIVERWALK JUST SAY HOTEL AND DON'T SPECIFY WHETHER IT'S EXTENDED STAY HOTEL OR NOT, IS BECAUSE OF THE BUILDING HEIGHT CONCEPT PLAN. SO, THE BUILDING HEIGHT CONCEPT PLAN LIMITS THIS. YOU CAN SEE THE LEGEND THERE, THE VERY FRONT THERE CAN BE THREE STOREY, BUT THEN BEHIND WHERE IT'S BLUE IS A MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES. AND SO, BECAUSE THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO PUT IN THIS BUILDING RIGHT HERE, IT'S EXTENDING INTO THAT. WELL, AND THEY WANT IT TO BE FOUR STORIES ANYWAY, SO IT'S TOO TALL FOR THE WHOLE AREA, BUT IT'S ALSO EXTENDING INTO THAT MAX TWO-STORY AREA. SO, BECAUSE P AND Z REALLY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE CHANGES TO THE WHOLE BLOCK, WHICH IS WHAT THE APPLICANT HAD ORIGINALLY REQUESTED WITHOUT REALLY KNOWING WHAT ELSE WAS GOING TO COME IN ON THE BLOCK. THEY WANTED TO JUST MAKE IT SPECIFIC TO THIS HOTEL. SO, WE'VE KIND OF PUT A LITTLE STAR BY THAT WITH AN EXPLANATION THAT WHILE WE'RE KEEPING THE CONCEPT BUILDING HEIGHT PLAN AS IT IS, THERE IS KIND OF AN EXCEPTION THAT IT CAN GO UP TO FOUR STORIES ON THAT SPACE IF IT'S FOR A HOTEL USE SPECIFICALLY. SO, IF ANYTHING ELSE, ANY OTHER USE WANTS TO COME IN, THEY DON'T GET THAT BENEFIT OF THE FOUR STORIES THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND DISCUSS WITH COUNCIL AND REQUEST APPROVAL FOR THEIR USE. SO, THAT'S HOW IT'S MODIFIED. IT ALSO IS GENERALLY CHANGING THE CONCEPT PLAN. ALSO, THIS IS KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE BEFORE. AND IT WAS KIND OF THESE SQUARES. AND SO, IT HAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT LOOK TO THIS BLOCK NOW. SO, WE ALSO HAD THEM UPDATE THE CONCEPT PLAN WITH THEIR PROPOSAL. LEXIN THIS. THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED PLAN IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY APPROVED IN THIS AREA FROM THE PROMENADE AND INCLUDING THESE KINDS OF THESE SQUARES, THAT'S WHAT IS REFERENCED IS THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT. YES. IN THE DHA AND THE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS LIKE ENHANCED PAVING, SOUND, LIGHT. HAS ANY OF THOSE OF ANY OF THOSE AMENITIES BEEN DELIVERED? WELL, THIS AREA HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED, SO I WOULD SAY NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE LAND USE PLAN. AND IT'S JUST SHOWING THAT THE NEW LOOK THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING TO THAT AREA FOR WHAT THE BUILDING ORIENTATION WOULD LOOK LIKE. SO, HERE'S A COUPLE OF PICTURES FROM THE OF THE SITE. WHERE THE HOTEL IS PROPOSED. AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST. LEAVING YOU WITH THE CONCEPT BUILDING HEIGHT, SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION. SO, I HAVE A QUESTION. ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE REQUESTED 106 ROOMS? PLUS, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE STAFF THERE AS WELL. WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK? YEAH. THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED AN ACTUAL SITE PLAN FOR STAFF TO DO THAT TYPE OF REVIEW. WE WOULD THERE IS THERE IS NO PART OF THIS REQUEST THAT WOULD GET THEM OUT OF MEETING. UM, ALL DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, INCLUDING PARKING. SO, WE WOULD REVIEW THAT IF THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO TAKE A SITE PLAN FORWARD, WE WOULD REVIEW IT TO ENSURE THAT IT MET ALL THE RIVERWALK STANDARDS. SO, AT SITE PLAN SITE. OKAY. COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? THANK YOU. LEXIN. ALL RIGHT. I HAVE A NOTE FOR MISS RANDI RIVERA FROM MCADAMS. AND ALSO, JASON WATSON AND RAJ VASHI. WONDERFUL. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. OH. AND MERRY CHRISTMAS. RANDY RIVERA, PLANNER WITH MCADAMS 400. STATE HIGHWAY 121, SUITE 800. VERY HAPPY TO BE IN FRONT OF Y'ALL TONIGHT. A LOT QUICKER THAN I THOUGHT THE MEETING WOULD GO, BUT I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE UP HERE NOW. AND WITH US FOR THIS REQUEST IS MIKE PATEL WITH A&M DEVELOPMENT GROUP. [02:50:05] HIS PARTNER AJ PATEL IS ALSO HERE. AND THEIR REPRESENTATIVE AND WE WANT TO PRESENT THIS THIRD HOTEL FOR RIVERWALK TO Y'ALL TONIGHT. AND BETWEEN MYSELF AND MIKE, ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. OKAY, SO JUST LEXIN WENT THROUGH THIS. I DON'T HAVE TO HIT ALL THESE AGAIN, BUT I'M JUST. THIS IS THE EVOLUTION OF THE BUILDING HEIGHTS SINCE THE INCEPTION OF RIVERWALK. AND ON THAT LEFT SIDE THERE IN 2008, SHOWING THE FOUR STOREY PLAN WITH BUILDING UP IN HEIGHT AS YOU GET TO CENTRAL PARK, FIVE STORIES, WRAPPING CENTRAL PARK. AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WE MADE THE AMENDMENTS IN 2015 TO LOWER THAT HEIGHT, LOWERED SOME INTENSITY OF WHAT RIVERWALK WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED TO BE. UM, AND SO THE PLAN ON THE FAR RIGHT IS WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO PNC AND THE HOTEL EXTENDED STAY HOTEL IS OUTLINED THERE IN THE RED. AND THEN WITH THE RECOMMENDATION FROM P AND Z MODIFYING THAT TO TAKE OUT, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE BLOCK TO KEEP THE BUILDING HEIGHT, CONSISTENT AS YOU'RE GOING INTO CENTRAL PARK AS THE ORIGINAL VISION, TO REALLY TO STEP UP IN BUILDING HEIGHT AS YOU GET CLOSER TO THE PARK. THAT WAS THE IDEA. HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION WITH P AND Z AND THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO KEEP THE BLOCK THE WAY IT WAS UNTIL WE KNOW WHAT THOSE OTHER USES MIGHT BE. IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MATCH THE ZONING, THEN COME FORWARD TO INCREASE THAT HEIGHT AND GO INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT THOSE PROPOSED USES ARE. SO, WE'RE WILLING TO PROVIDE THAT FOR COUNCIL TONIGHT. AND AS LEXIN SAYS ON THE ASTERISK THERE, THAT, UM, ONLY CHANCE WE CAN DO FOUR STOREYS IN THAT BUILDING. NUMBER 202 A IS IF IT'S A HOTEL, EXTENDED STAY, HOTEL USE. SO WHY EXTENDED STAY? UM, IN IN FLOWER MOUND. AND, UH, WHAT IS THE DEMAND? THE DRAW HERE. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP OF AVAILABLE, THERE'S CLUSTERS OBVIOUSLY ALONG THE MAJOR CORRIDORS IN FLOWER MOUND. WE HAVE SOME OPTIONS AND IT'S INCREASING AND GETTING SOME MORE ON THE SOUTH SIDE CLOSER TO GRAPEVINE AND THE FUTURE AS WELL. BUT THESE TWO EXISTING HOTELS ARE DOING PHENOMENAL. UM, THEIR PERFORMANCE IS REALLY JUST OUTPACING THEIR OTHER LOCATIONS. THROUGHOUT DFW OCCUPANCY IS AROUND 85, AVERAGING 85%. AND IT'S NOT ONLY THE LOCAL MARKET LIKE THE HOSPITAL SPORTS TOURNAMENTS, WEDDINGS, OTHER EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING, BUT THEY'RE PULLING IN FOLKS FROM THE LEWISVILLE AND GRAPEVINE MARKETS, AS WELL, TO COME UP TO HERE. AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S THE JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP AND THE AVAILABILITY IN THE AREA. AND MIKE WOULD BE HAPPY TO KIND OF GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. BUT MARRIOTT IS DOING IS JUST DOING VERY WELL. AND THEN THE HOME2 SUITES IS, IS AS WELL. ONE OF THE THINGS INSIDE RIVERWALK THE HOTEL PATRONS DO COME DOWN TO RESTAURANT ROW TO VISIT THEIR RESTAURANT SPACES THERE. AND I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE GETTING, YOU KNOW, MORE PATRONS FROM THE HOME2 SUITES THAN THEY ARE THE MARRIOTT. UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S CLOSER, BUT THEY DO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF CUSTOMERS FROM THOSE HOTELS THAT COME DOWN TO THE RESTAURANT. SO THAT FOOT TRAFFIC IS GOOD. UM, AND IT IS HELPING KEEP, YOU KNOW, THE RESTAURANTS WITH ACTIVITY AND PEOPLE THERE ENJOYING THAT. SO YEAH, THESE HOTELS ARE DOING BETTER THAN 25% OF THE OTHER HOTELS IN DFW, THE SAME BRAND. MARRIOTT TOWNPLACE SUITES IS THE PROPOSED EXTENDED STAY IN THIS LOCATION. IT IS ONE OF THEIR FASTEST GROWING BRANDS. UM, HAS A SUPER HIGH CUSTOMER SATISFACTION AND THE FREE ON DEMAND BREAKFAST AND LAUNDRY AND FITNESS CENTER. THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE ALSO REQUIRED IN THE CODE. IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO LEASE OR RENT OUT A HOTEL HERE AT TOWNPLACE SUITES. FOUR STORY, 106 ROOMS AND AGREEING TO MEET THE TOWN'S CONDITIONS FOR THE EXTENDED STAY BECAUSE WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS INCREASE IN HEIGHT. SO, WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT IS WHAT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED? AND THESE ARE SOME PICTURES OF SHOWING THE, YOU KNOW, INTERIORS OF OTHER MARRIOTT EXTENDED I'M SORRY TOWNPLACE SUITES MARRIOTT. AND JUST WHAT THE AMENITIES INSIDE THE ROOMS LOOK LIKE. AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, JUST IT'S AN OPTION FOR WHERE PEOPLE CAN STAY HERE IN FLOWER MOUND LOOKING AT THE MAP, THERE'S KIND OF A HIGH DEMAND AND LIMITED OPTIONS NEARBY. AND SO, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO ALSO TALK ABOUT IS EXTENDED STAY AND THAT THE HOTEL INDUSTRY PROVIDES THIS OPTION. CERTAIN GUESTS LIKE IT NOT YOU KNOW, IT MAYBE JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY WHEN YOU TRAVEL AND WHERE YOU WANT TO STAY. THEY ARE MORE EXPENSIVE TO BUILD. [02:55:03] SO, THERE'S A LOT MORE THAT GOES IN THE INVESTMENT UPFRONT, AND THEY ARE HIGHER WITH THEIR AIDERS. SO, WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID AND THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION ABOUT EXTENDED STAY IN RIVERWALK AND NC LIMITING IT TO JUST TWO. MIKE AND HIS TEAM, MIKE PATEL AND HIS TEAM UNDERSTAND THIS. YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A CONCERN ABOUT ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY, WOULD A LIMITED SERVICE BE MORE VIABLE OPTION FOR COUNCIL IN THIS LOCATION SO THAT YOU HAVE THE THREE STILL HAVE THE THREE HOTELS, ONLY ONE IS EXTENDED STAY AND THE OTHERS ARE LIMITED SERVICE. SO, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. AND ME AND MIKE AND THE REST OF THE TEAM WILL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. THANKS, RANDY. COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS. YES. ANYONE I WELL, I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE DOOR. YOU OPENED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT LIMITED SERVICE VERSUS EXTENDED STAY. SO, TALK TO ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. YES, I'LL LET MIKE YOU WANT TO ANSWER THAT FOR HER. YEAH. SO EXTENDED STAY. MIKE PATEL, 450 EAST CHARLOTTE. CARPENTER. FREEWAY. IRVING. SO EXTENDED STAY MAINLY GEARED TOWARDS WEEKLY TWO WEEKS, WEEKS, A MONTH STAY AND DOES HAVE A KITCHEN FACILITY WHERE THEY CAN COOK AND NOT A LIMITED SERVICE HOTEL JUST BASICALLY DOESN'T HAVE THAT COMPONENT OF KITCHEN, BASICALLY. I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO, BUT I'M SAYING WHY WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEHIND WHY DID YOU THINK EXTENDED STAY WOULD BE BETTER THAN A TRADITIONAL HOTEL THERE? I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT THE DATA FROM HOME2 SUITES, WHICH IS SORT OF A HYBRID EXTENDED STAY. IT'S DOING PHENOMENALLY. WELL, REVENUE WISE. SO, WE FIGURE THERE'S A ROOM FOR ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY IN THE AREA. THAT'S IT. MARKET. THE DEMAND HERE IS WHAT IS THE DEMAND HERE FOR THAT? AND COULD YOU GIVE EXAMPLES OF WHY SOMEONE MIGHT WANT TO STAY FOR A MONTH AND WHY? YOU KNOW, YOU EXPECT HIGH OCCUPANCY RATES. MEAN DEMAND, OF COURSE, CORPORATE TRAVEL. FAMILY WEEKENDS. AND AIRPORTS GROWING, EXPANDING. SO, ALL THAT SHOULD BRING BUSINESS IN THE AREA FROM GRAPEVINE, LEWISVILLE, AS RANDY MENTIONED. SO, YEAH. CORPORATE TRAINING. YEAH. WHERE IS IT HAPPENING? TITANS ARE JUST SAID HE WAS GOING TO BRING IN DENNIS IN. THERE YOU GO. BUT THEY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO HAVE EXTENDED STAY. THEY COULD DO TRADITIONAL HOTEL AS WELL. THEY COULD. BUT I DO KNOW THAT HOME TO SWEETS WENT FROM OPENING UP LIKE IN THE 90S IMMEDIATELY. FOR OCCUPANCY. DID YOU HAVE ANY MEETINGS WITH THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL FOLKS TO TALK ABOUT THIS? YES. YES, MA'AM. WE HAD A MEETING. I WANT TO SAY IT WAS OCTOBER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, THE POA SENT OUT AN EMAIL, AND WE HAD A REALLY GOOD TURNOUT. I ACTUALLY HAVE A PICTURE IN THE OTHER PRESENTATION. WE ALL MET AT WHISKEY AND SMOKE. THE RESTAURANT WAS FULL OF RESIDENTS. IT WAS REALLY, REALLY NEAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THE EXTENDED STAY AND THE RESIDENTS HAD NO CONCERNS ABOUT IT. SO, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUTSIDE THE 200-FOOT RADIUS THAT'S REQUIRED. BUT THE OLDER NEIGHBORHOOD NEAR THE LAKE, WHICH IS I GUESS SOUTH OF WHERE THIS WOULD BE, UM, I BELIEVE THEY WROTE INTO US AND THERE WAS MORE THAN A DOZEN. WAS IT CLOSER TO 20 PEOPLE? THAT 43, 43 PEOPLE. OKAY. IT WAS ON THE OKAY, IN THE COUPLES, THE FORUMS. YES. THEY EXPRESSED, UM, GRAVE CONCERNS AND THEY WERE NOT AT ALL IN FAVOR OF HAVING ANOTHER EXTENDED HOTEL, EXTENDED STAY HOTEL HERE. SO, CAN I ASK IF THEY ELABORATED WHY? UM, THEY PROBABLY DID. I DIDN'T MEMORIZE THE. YEAH, THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT AMENDING THE ORDINANCES FOR THE RIVERWALK AGAIN, AND I KIND OF SHARE SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS OF, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP AMENDING THE RIVERWALK OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND I FEEL LIKE WE DON'T HAVE THIS COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF WHERE WE'RE CHANGING IT HERE, BUT WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE REST OF IT? WE KEEP PIECEMEALING IT TOGETHER AND THE AMENITIES THAT WERE PROMISED A LONG TIME AGO. WE STILL HAVE NO LINE OF SIGHT FOR THOSE. I MEAN, EVEN PARKING. WHAT IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE MIGHT BE DOING FOR PARKING FOR THIS? YES, WE WOULD MEET THE TOWN'S REGULATIONS FOR PARKING. [03:00:02] WE BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH SURFACE PARKING IN THE AREA. RIVERWALK ALLOWS SHARED PARKING, LIKE IN LAKESIDE, AND THEN WE CAN ALSO COUNT SPACES IF THEY'RE NOT ALREADY COUNTED FOR IF THEY'RE WITHIN 500FT. OKAY. AND SO, THERE'S AMPLE PARKING. OR THERE WILL BE WHEN WE ADD MORE FOR THIS SITE, FOR THIS HOTEL. BUT RIVERWALK ITSELF RIGHT NOW HAS A LOT OF OVER PARKED AREAS, UM, WITH THE TWO GARAGES THAT AREN'T BEING UTILIZED AND IN THEIR CAPACITY. BUT HE'S GOING TO WALK FROM THE PARKING GARAGE TO THIS TOWNPLACE SUITES. NO. AND YES, SIR, YOU'RE RIGHT, THEY'RE NOT. BUT JUST IN GENERAL, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN OF RIVERWALK AND THAT IT HAS BEEN, LIKE MANY THINGS, SORT OF THIS LIVING, BREATHING DEVELOPMENT SINCE IT'S TAKEN OVER ONE DECADE TO OR. YEAH, TEN YEARS TO REALLY FORCE, YOU KNOW, BRING THIS VISION, ALL OF IT TO LIFE AND ALL THE VARIABLES THAT WE'VE, OUR CLIENTS HAVE HAD TO FACE THROUGHOUT THAT TIME PERIOD. BUT THERE IS A COHESIVE PLAN. AND THIS THE MECHANISM OF GOING THROUGH THE ZONING ALLOWS, YOU KNOW, US TO HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND GET THIS INPUT AS WE'RE ASKING FOR THESE CHANGES. AND WE'VE LISTENED TO THE RESIDENTS AND THE PRNS WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND WE'RE EVEN WILLING TO FOR, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF IN LIEU OF AN EXTENDED STAY PROVIDE FOR A LIMITED SERVICE IF WE FEEL IF COUNCIL FEELS THAT IS MORE SUITABLE. WELL, AND ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS IN THE LETTER OR EMAIL WE RECEIVED WAS JUST THE WALKABILITY, THE SENSE OF COMMUNITY AND CONCERN THAT WAS VOICED. WERE YOU HAVING AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL OR ANY TYPE OF HOTEL? I BELIEVE THAT'S NOT FOSTERING BUSINESSES OR THINGS TO BRING PEOPLE IN AND, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT A LIVELY PLACE WHERE THERE'S SHOPS AND PEOPLE TO WALK AROUND AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE RESTAURANTS, HAVE MORE SHOPS, THAT SORT OF THING. SO, I GUESS THE QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS: ARE THERE OTHER USES OTHER THAN A HOTEL FOR THAT AREA THAT COULD HELP FOSTER THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY IN THAT MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT? IN THIS IN THIS SOUTHERN AREA, THERE ARE OTHER. SO, IT'S ZONED MIXED USE AND IT'S BEEN ZONED MIXED USE SINCE 2008. AND SO, IF ALL THE USES OF THAT ARE UNDER MIXED USE, LIKE RETAIL, OFFICE, RESTAURANTS AND THEY'RE ALL LISTED OUT LIKE A BAKERY, THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY GET REALLY PRETTY DETAILED. BUT THOSE USES HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 15 YEARS AND THEY HAVEN'T COME TO FRUITION FOR WHATEVER REASON. MAYBE COVID, YOU KNOW, OR MAYBE JUST JUST OTHER KINDS OF TIMING OR THE MARKET OR, YOU KNOW, ECONOMICS. BUT IT'S BEEN THERE LIKE THAT. AND THE INTENTION WAS TO BRING IN MIXED USE. I THINK A HOTEL BRINGS ACTIVITY, TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL RESIDENTS GOING OVER TO THE RESTAURANTS AND ENJOYING THAT SPACE. UM, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT TO SEE HAPPEN. AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO HAVE HOTEL, PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO EXPLORE MORE BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY WANT TO LOOK AROUND. WE HAVE FOLKS THAT COME IN FROM NORTH CAROLINA THAT STAY AT THE MARRIOTT, AND THEY ACTUALLY WALK OVER TO MEDIA ACROSS THE STREET. I MEAN, YOU'LL DO ANYTHING FOR A GOOD TEX-MEX RESTAURANT, RIGHT? BUT THEY'LL WALK ACROSS 24.99 TO GO THERE. SO, I THINK HAVING A HOTEL IS A GOOD USE TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE AND ENHANCE THE VIBRANCY AND VITALITY OF RIVERWALK. INASMUCH AS JUST AS REGULAR RETAIL AND IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE OF THE IN AND OUT AND THE FOOT TRAFFIC THAT A HOTEL CAN BRING IN TOURISTS. SO, I'LL MAKE A COMMENT HERE BECAUSE NO ONE ELSE WAS ON COUNCIL AT THE TIME, BUT THE LAST PROPOSAL FOR THIS PARTICULAR SPACE TO MODIFY IT WAS THEY WANTED 300 APARTMENTS. IN THIS SPACE AND. HUH? WELL, OKAY. SO, THE MAJORITY OF COUNCIL WAS NOT THEY WANTED LIKE 300 APARTMENTS. AND YES, THEY WERE GOING TO DO LIKE SHOPS IN THE BOTTOM AND SO FORTH, BUT. WE HAD NO TOLERANCE FOR 300 APARTMENTS, I STILL DON'T. SO PERSONALLY, I'D RATHER SEE AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL HERE. THEN 300 APARTMENTS. AND I DO ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT IN THAT EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED, WE RECEIVED ONE EMAIL WITH, WITH 43, YOU KNOW, HOMES ON IT. IT DID HAVE PARTICULARS LIKE THEY WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT FIVE STOREY HOTEL, WHICH WAS REDUCED LAST WEEK AND SO FORTH. SO, WE NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT FAIR ON THAT AS WELL. SO, WHAT'S THE. SO, THERE'S A NICE PICTURE OF A NEW TOWNPLACE SUITES BY MARRIOTT RIGHT IN THE PRESENTATION. IS THAT JUST AN EXAMPLE OF AN EXTENDED STAY OR DO YOU HAVE AN LOI OR HOW CONFIDENT ARE WE IN THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET SOMETHING OF THAT BRAND AND NOT MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD FIND ALONG 35. OH, THE FRANCHISE ITSELF, THE MARRIOTT IS READY. [03:05:05] WE ALREADY CHECKED WITH THEM. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THE PROJECT. SO, YOU HAVE A COMMITMENT FOR THAT FLAG? YES. WE DO. AND SO. SO HOW DOES THE SO HOW DO YOU GUYS FIT INTO THIS PICTURE? SO, OUT OF CURIOSITY, ARE YOU THE HOTELIER OR ARE YOU GOING TO BE THE DEVELOPER IN A HOTEL? YES. AND SO, THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT YOU BUILD AND TURN OVER OR SELL TO ANOTHER MARRIOTT FRANCHISEE. OR IS IT. NO. WE ALL OWN AND OPERATE IT. AND HOW MANY DO YOU SO DO YOU SUCCESSFULLY OPERATE HOTELS TODAY? WE HAVE LIKE 20 PLUS. AND SO, ONE OF THE REASONS FOR ALL OF OUR QUESTIONS IS, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE MAY NOT BE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT APPROVING, UM, APARTMENTS, WE WANT TO APPROVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO GENERATE SOME, SOME REVENUE FOR THE TOWN AND EXCITEMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY. NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT AN EXTENDED STAY HOTEL WOULD BE MY TOP CHOICE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK YOU'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL THAT, UM. YOU KNOW, AS THIS LAND HAS BEEN SITTING VACANT FOR A WHILE, WE'VE HAD SOMETHING ELSE COME BEFORE COUNCIL THAT DIDN'T GO THROUGH. AND IF THIS DOESN'T GO THROUGH TONIGHT, THEN WHO KNOWS HOW LONG IT'LL BE BEFORE WE HAVE ANOTHER APPLICANT? UM, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO TO BUILD SOMETHING AND GO THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS. RIGHT. SO, COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? FOR THE APPLICANT. A LENGTH OF TIME IS NOT A CONCERN TO ME. I'D RATHER HAVE VACANT LAND THAN SOMETHING THAT'S UNDESIRABLE FOR OUR TOWN. I AGREE. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THIS HOTEL IS UNDESIRABLE? I DIDN'T SAY THAT. OKAY. I JUST SAID I'D RATHER HAVE VACANT LAND THAN SOMETHING UNDESIRABLE. SOMETHING, ANYTHING. UNDERSTOOD. A QUICK QUESTION WHY IS NO SITE PLAN PRESENTED TONIGHT? WE HAVE TO AMEND AMENDING THE ZONING AS THE FIRST STEP, AND THEN WE WOULD TURN IN THE SITE PLAN TO STAFF. SO, NOTHING REALLY NO VISIONARY PRELIMINARY. OTHER THAN THE RENDERING OF AN EXISTING OTHER PLACE. YES. THIS WHERE 202 SITS, THAT'S THE FOOTPRINT OF A MARRIOTT TOWN PLACE. SO, WE ADDED THAT THERE. AND WE BELIEVE THIS PARKING IS ALL GOING TO HAVE TO BE PUT IN AS WELL TO SUPPORT IT. BUT WE WILL TURN IN A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN IF THIS WERE TO BE APPROVED. OKAY. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS? COUNCIL. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, GUYS. THANK YOU. SO, THE TIME IS NOW. 1003 AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN Z 23-0002. I HAVE ONE COMMENT CARD THAT IS A NON-SPEAKING CARD IN OPPOSITION. I HAVE A FEW PUBLIC COMMENT FORMS THAT, UH, RESIDENTS WISH TO SPEAK. IF YOU'RE HERE AND YOU WISH TO SPEAK DURING THIS ITEM AND YOU HAVEN'T FILLED OUT A GREEN CARD, IF YOU COULD GRAB ONE FROM THE BACK, FILL IT OUT REALLY QUICK AND WE'LL GET TO YOU. ALSO, IN CASE YOU WEREN'T HERE IN THE BEGINNING, JUST A REMINDER. UH, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD, STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. AND TONIGHT, DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES. A TONE WILL SOUND WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT, AND AGAIN WHEN YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. AND PLEASE TRY TO DIRECT ALL YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS US, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL. FIRST. UM, TONIGHT WILL BE MR. ROBERT BLOOM. GOOD EVENING, SIR. GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL. JUST A FEW POINTS. THE RESIDENTS OF THE GRAMERCY PARK DRIVE, SIR. COULD YOU STATE YOUR ADDRESS FOR ME? I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU. BOB BLOOM, 3916 SATURN STREET IN FLOWER MOUND. NOW, PART OF THE FORMS. HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AND THE HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION AROUND GRAMERCY PARK AND THEIR MEMBERS, THE RESIDENTS OF FORUMS. WE ALL PURCHASED OUR HOMES WITH CONFIDENCE AND ASSURANCE THAT OUR TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND HAD A MASTER PLAN. ZONING ORDINANCES COMPLETE WITH DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND INCLUDING BUILDING HEIGHTS AND SUCH. AND WE'RE RELYING ON YOU TO DEFEND THESE ORDINANCES ON OUR BEHALF. WE APPRECIATE THAT. I FAIL TO SEE HOW THE AMENDMENTS THAT THEY'RE ASKING FOR, CAN BE CONSTRUED AS, AS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE TOWN TO PROMOTE THE HEALTH, SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF THE CITIZENS OF FLOWER MOUND AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC. UM, WHERE UM, YOU HAVE MENTIONED IT ALSO, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING TO PARK? [03:10:07] THERE ARE THE RESIDENCES, THE GUESTS, THE STAFF, THE SUPPLIERS, THE VENDORS. AND YOU TALK ABOUT, I MEAN, THE OTHER LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A HUGE NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES THERE, BUT IT'S ALL SHARED. I MEAN, THERE'S A MEDICAL CENTER OVER THERE, AND WHEN YOU GO WALKING IN THE MORNINGS AND THE EVENINGS, YOU SEE THAT THOSE PARKING LOTS ARE GENERALLY NOT ALWAYS BUT GENERALLY FAIRLY FULL, AND YOU'RE GOING TO THROW ALL OF THOSE INTO THE MIX. IT'S GOING TO BE A CLUSTER, I FIRMLY BELIEVE THE RIVERWALK DEVELOPMENT CONTINUES TO REQUEST ZONING CHANGES AND ZONING AND VARIANCE REQUESTS, AND I PROPOSE THAT THE RIVERWALK DEVELOPMENT FOLKS BE CHARGED WITH FINISHING SOMETHING BEFORE THEIR NEXT REQUEST THE RESTAURANT ROW, AMPHITHEATER, SHOPS THE WATER PARK THAT JUST FINISHED SOMETHING AND THEN COME TO US WITH OR COME TO YOU WITH REQUEST FOR VARIANCES AND BUILDING HEIGHT CHANGES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT, JUST BEFORE I MOVE ON, THOUGH. THIS IS JOHN WATSON I HAD AS PART OF AN BEING PART OF THE APPLICANT. BUT I HAVE A CARD FROM JOHN WATSON. ARE YOU THE APPLICANT? GOOD. SO ARE YOU GOING TO WANT TO TALK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE. OKAY. AND THEN MIKE PATEL. SAME THING, RIGHT? YOU JUST FILLED OUT A CARD JUST IN CASE. OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE. WELL, THEN THAT LEAVES US WITH JAMES. GEORGE. GOOD EVENING. I'M THE EMAIL WRITER. AND YOU'VE GONE OVER MOST OF THE STUFF THAT I WROTE YOU ABOUT, SO I'M GOING TO KIND OF WING IT HERE, WHICH I'M PROBABLY NOT GOOD AT, BUT. OH, SORRY. JAMES GEORGE, 3932 SATURN STREET FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 75028. MY WIFE AND I REALLY RESEARCHED WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN IN THE RIVERWALK BEFORE WE BOUGHT OUR HOME. WE'RE IN THE FARMS, TOO. AND THERE ARE 70 HOMES IN THAT LITTLE AREA THERE, AND IN TWO DAYS I HAD 86 PEOPLE CONTACT ME WHEN THEY FOUND OUT I WAS WRITING A LETTER. SO, IT'S A HOT ISSUE THERE. AND WE WERE SOLD ON THE IDEA THAT THIS WAS GOING TO BE A TOWN CENTER FOR US, THAT PEOPLE WERE GOING TO BE BROUGHT IN FROM THE OUTSIDE, NOT PETE DENNIS FROM ILLINOIS OR PEOPLE FROM LEWISVILLE. YOU KNOW, ALTHOUGH LEWISVILLE'S OKAY, I GUESS IT'S CLOSE ENOUGH. BUT MY KIDS LIVE IN THE RIVERWALK AND COULDN'T FIND ANYTHING TO DO THERE. SO, I WOULD SAY THERE'S A BETTER MODEL FOR THIS THAT WOULD INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT IS INTERESTING TO PEOPLE. THE ORIGINAL ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS HAD ALL KINDS OF CAFES AND SHOPS ON THE STREET, ON THE GROUND LEVEL AND, YOU KNOW, SORRY, THE WATER EXHIBIT AND THE AND THE CONCERT VENUE. AND I WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO REALLY TRY TO HOLD TO YOUR ORIGINAL VISION BECAUSE WE ARE DEPENDING ON YOU TO ENFORCE THE RULES. THE RULES KEEP CHANGING IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS. AND PEOPLE ARE PEOPLE ARE READY TO GIVE UP ON IT, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU, SIR. THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE GREEN COMMENT CARDS FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS 1010 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. SO JUST FOR STARTERS, I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THE PROPOSAL FROM THE A&M DEVELOPMENT GROUP LOOKS LIKE A REALLY NICE PRODUCT. I DON'T DISPUTE THEIR MARKET ANALYSIS. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SUCCESSFUL. BUT I THINK THAT THE PUBLIC SPEAKERS TONIGHT REALLY CAPTURED IT IS THAT THERE'S A VISION FOR THIS WHOLE AREA. THE REASON WHY IT'S LIMITED TO TWO STORIES NOW IS BECAUSE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE KIND OF COMMERCIAL RETAIL THAT WE WERE ALL SOLD ON WHEN WE WERE GIVEN THE VISION FOR THIS, THIS PROJECT. AND I AGREE, WE'RE DRIFTING AWAY FROM THAT VISION. IT'S HARD TO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING WHEN WE PUT IN ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY WITH A BIG EMPTY LOT, WITH ANOTHER EXTENDED STAY, AND THEN A BIG DIRT HILL THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN AMPHITHEATER. THE APPLICANT MENTIONED THE HOTELS DRIVING FOOT TRAFFIC. IT'S BACKWARDS. WE SHOULD HAVE THE PUBLIC AMENITIES, DRIVING TRAFFIC. [03:15:01] AND THEN THOSE PEOPLE SHOULD BE DEMANDING A PLACE TO STAY BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL COMING TO VISIT THE RIVERWALK AND WE'RE JUST GOING THE WRONG DIRECTION. SO FRANKLY, I'M JUST NOT INTERESTED IN ANY MORE ENTITLEMENTS UNTIL WE GET SOME MOVEMENT ON THE PUBLIC AMENITIES. THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FIRST, AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHAT KIND OF CHANGES WE HAVE TO MAKE TO THIS PROJECT TO SUPPORT THEM. BUT DOING IT THE OTHER WAY AROUND IS JUST GOING TO RESULT IN. JUST THESE HOTELS AND NOTHING ELSE. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS AT THIS TIME. ANYONE ELSE. I'M ON THE SAME PAGE. I MEAN, I THINK WE WE KEEP AMENDING THE RIVERWALK. WE KEEP CHANGING THE STANDARDS. UM. WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL AMENITIES. WE NEED TO GET SOME PROMISES THAT WE WERE PROMISED WHEN THIS WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED. UM. I THINK. YEAH. IT'S A NICE PROPOSAL. THE DEVELOPER DID A GOOD JOB WITH ORGANIZING IT, BUT AGAIN, I WANT TO STICK TO WHAT WE WANT IN THIS AREA. I'LL SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED FOR THE RIVERWALK. IT'S BEEN 15 PLUS YEARS AGO. I WOULD SAY THAT THAT SHIP HAS SAILED. I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO GET THAT. AND I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I THINK THIS IS AN OPTION THAT I WOULD SAY WOULD BE, IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST. WHAT EVERYBODY WOULD WANT. I THINK IT BRINGS PEOPLE INTO THE RIVERWALK. I THINK IT HELPS THE RESTAURANTS. I THINK IT WOULD HELP THAT GENERAL AREA AND POTENTIALLY DRIVE ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT TO FINISH THE RIVERWALK, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT WE ALL WANT. BECAUSE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN. AND SO, I CAN APPRECIATE THE RESIDENTS FROM THE FORUMS. BUT YOU'RE ALSO NOT RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THIS AS WELL. IT'S A LITTLE WAY AWAY. I THINK IT'S A VIABLE OPTION AND THAT I WOULD SUPPORT THE APPROVAL OF IT. ANYONE ELSE. IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. THIS IS ITEM SEVEN, RIGHT? IT IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. UH, MOVE. DENIAL OF REGULAR ITEM SEVEN IS PRESENTED. SECOND. SO, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO DENY. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. IS THERE ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. CALL]. THE MOTION TO DENY ITEM NUMBER SEVEN PASSES BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1. APPLICATION IS DENIED. ITEM NUMBER EIGHT. [K.8. Public Hearing (Z20-0005 - The River Walk at Central Park) - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (Z20-0005 - The River Walk at Central Park) to amend the development standards for The River Walk at Central Park related to Article II - Uses and Article XI - Signage and to update the Concept Ground Sign Location exhibit. The property is generally located north of Cross Timbers Road, west of Morriss Road, and east of Long Prairie Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 1 at its November 13, 2023, meeting.) (Town Council postponed this item to December 18 by a vote of 4 to 0 at its December 4, 2023, meeting.)] A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM Z20005 RIVERWALK STAFF PRESENTATION BY MISS LEXIN MURPHY. THANK YOU. MAYOR. UH, THIS IS A PROPOSED CHANGE OR THERE ARE SEVERAL PROPOSED CHANGES WITHIN IT TO THAT BASE ZONING ORDINANCE. THAT IS THE RIVERWALK. SO AGAIN, HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY. AND A MORE DETAILED VIEW. AGAIN. THE LAND USE FOR THIS SUBJECT AREA IS MIXED USE AND THE ZONING IS THE CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT. SO SAME THINGS ARE TRUE. FROM WHAT I SAID BEFORE, THE HATCHED AREA IS WHAT WAS NOTICED AND WHAT WAS IMPACTED BY THIS PROPOSAL. SO NOT NECESSARILY. EVERY PART OF THE RIVERWALK WAS INCLUDED WITHIN THE REQUEST AGAIN. SO HERE ARE THOSE SUBDISTRICTS DISTRICT A BEING THE TOWN CENTER, DISTRICT B, JUST REALLY THE RESIDENTIAL AREA. DISTRICT C, COMMUNITY MIXED USE AND DISTRICT D COMMUNITY RETAIL CENTER. SO, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR USES WITHIN THE RIVERWALK. THE FIRST IS TO PERMIT THE BOUTIQUE VENDOR MARKET, AND AGAIN, DISTRICTS WHERE IT'S PROPOSED TO BE PERMITTED, OR TOWN CENTER, COMMUNITY MIXED USE AND D COMMUNITY RETAIL. [03:20:04] SO, THIS IS JUST THE DEFINITION FOR A BOUTIQUE VENDOR MARKET ESTABLISHMENT PROVIDING FACILITIES FOR MORE THAN ONE VENDOR, PRIMARILY FOR THE DISTRIBUTION AND SALE OF FOOD AND UNIQUE NON-FOOD ARTICLES, INCLUDING CUSTOM HIGH-QUALITY MERCHANDISE WHICH MAY BE UPCYCLED OR REPURPOSED DIRECTLY TO CONSUMERS. UM NOT BE DEEMED TO INCLUDE A SECONDHAND STORE OR PAWN SHOP. AND THERE'S ALSO SOME FURTHER LANGUAGE ABOUT THAT WITHIN THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES THIS TYPE OF USE TO BE AT LEAST 70% UNDERCOVER. SO THERE REALLY ISN'T A LOCATION CURRENTLY WITHIN THE RIVERWALK THAT WOULD MEET THIS DEFINITION. IT'S JUST ALLOWING FOR THE POTENTIAL FOR THAT USE IN THE PURPOSE. IT ISN'T IN THE FUTURE. IT IS A NEW USE THAT WAS ADOPTED WITHIN THE TOWN'S CODE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, SAME THING IS TRUE AS FAR AS FOOD TRUCK ACCESSORY AND THAT IT WAS ADOPTED WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. AND SO, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ADD THAT TO KIND OF THAT OVERALL LIST OF USES FOR THE RIVERWALK FOOD TRUCK ACCESSORY MEANS ON SITE ACCOMMODATIONS FOR ONE MOBILE FOOD ESTABLISHMENT, PROVIDING FOOD AND BEVERAGE SALES, DESIGNED AND ARRANGED TO SERVE THE CUSTOMERS OF THE PRIMARY USE. AND SO, THIS JUST ALLOWS FOR SOMEONE IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC BUSINESS THAT HAS A RELATIONSHIP WITH A FOOD TRUCK WHERE THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO BRING THEM ON KIND OF LONG TERM AND HAVE KIND OF SOME SYNERGY THERE, THEN IT WOULD ALLOW FOR THAT POTENTIAL. IT WOULD STILL HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY STAFF MEETING ALL THOSE REQUIREMENTS, ENSURE THERE WAS ADEQUATE PARKING, THERE WAS SAFETY AND PROVISIONS IN PLACE FOR HOW PEOPLE WERE ACCESSING THE TRUCK, WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO EAT, ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF. SO, THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MAKE THAT AN ALLOWED USE AS WELL WITHIN THE RIVERWALK IN THOSE SAME DISTRICTS. ANOTHER REQUEST IS FOR OUTSIDE LIVE MUSIC, AS IS OUTSIDE LIVE MUSIC MAY BE USED AS AN ANCILLARY USE TO RESTAURANT, GENERAL RESTAURANT, ROW AND FARMERS MARKET USES. OUTSIDE LIVE MUSIC MAY BE PLAYED SUBJECT TO ARTICLE THREE NOISE CONTROL. MUSIC SHALL NOT BE PLAYED PAST 10 P.M. MUSIC SET UP SHALL NOT IMPEDE PEDESTRIAN CIRCULATION AND ACCESSIBLE ROUTES. SO, THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY ALLOWED WITHIN THE RIVERWALK. THERE WAS KIND OF A STAGE AREA THAT WAS CREATED FOR THIS. THIS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN WRITING THAT IT ALSO COULD BE ALLOWED AT OTHER RESTAURANTS, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC STAGE AREA CREATED, OR AT THE FARMERS MARKET, IF THAT WERE CONSTRUCTED IN THE FUTURE. UM, AND THEN ALSO SO CURRENTLY THAT WOULD GO IT WOULD GO THROUGH A PROCESS TO GET AN EXHIBITION PERMIT JUST SO THAT THE TOWN WOULD KIND OF REVIEW THAT PROCESS. SO, THIS WOULD NOW BE, YOU KNOW, JUST AN ALLOWED USE WITHIN THE CODE IF APPROVED. AND IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO GET A SEPARATE EXHIBITION PERMIT. SO, DOES THE 10 P.M. IS THAT DURING WEEKDAYS, TOO? YEAH. THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN, IT SAYS IT SHALL NOT BE PLAYED PAST 10 P.M. OKAY. NOW I WOULD. I WILL HAVE TO I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND REVIEW OUR ORDINANCE. IT SAYS THAT IT WILL MEET THE NOISE ORDINANCE. SO, I DON'T RECALL. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK TO SEE IF THERE'S AN EARLIER TIME FRAME DURING THE WEEK. I THINK IT'S JUST, IT'S HARD CODING IT TO SAY IT CAN NEVER HAPPEN AFTER TEN, BUT IT WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE TO MEET IF THERE WERE EARLIER NOISE RESTRICTIONS DURING THE WEEK. IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET THOSE BECAUSE IT'S ALSO SAYING IT WILL MEET THE TOWN'S NOISE ORDINANCE. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO, ANOTHER CHANGE TO USES HAS TO DO WITH SPECIAL EVENTS. SO, THE TOWN'S TYPICAL STANDARDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN ARE A MAXIMUM OF SIX EVENTS PER YEAR. SO, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO GO UP TO 15 EVENTS PER YEAR. AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SOME OF THE THINKING BEHIND IT IS BECAUSE THE RIVERWALK IS SUCH A LARGE AREA, AND THEY'RE REALLY TRYING TO BRING MORE PEOPLE INTO THE RIVERWALK, AND SO WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO MORE OF THESE EVENTS THAT WOULD KIND OF DRAW A CROWD, MAYBE GET SOME MORE FOOT TRAFFIC IN THERE. THEY HAVE ALSO REQUESTED TO ALLOW A CARNIVAL OR CIRCUS TO BE TWICE A YEAR IN ADDITION TO THE 15 SPECIAL EVENTS THAT ARE REQUESTED. THE CARNIVAL OR CIRCUS USE WOULD BE ALLOWED TO EXCEED THE NORMAL LIMITS OF THE TIMING FOR A SPECIAL EVENT WITHIN THE TOWN'S ORDINANCE, AND THAT IT WOULD BE UP TO THREE WEEKS EXCLUDING MOVE IN AND PACK OUT. SO, A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT GOT ADDED INTO THIS LANGUAGE. UM, WHEN THIS WENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, IS THEY WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO. KIND OF HAVE TO TAKE A SECOND LOOK AT THIS AND MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS WORKING OUT. AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH NUMBER OF EVENTS WASN'T CAUSING ANY PROBLEMS TO EXISTING RESIDENTS OR THAT SORT OF THING. AND SO, THEY ASKED FOR LEGAL TO REVIEW IT AND SEE IF THEY COULD RECOMMEND SOME LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FOR THAT SECOND LOOK. SO, THE WAY THAT IT'S WORDED, IT SAYS BOTH FOR THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF SPECIAL EVENTS AND FOR THE CHANGES TO THE PARAMETERS FOR THE CIRCUS, IS THAT THIS WOULD BE. [03:25:05] SEE UPON THE SECOND ANNIVERSARY OF THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE, THE USE WILL BE PERMITTED ONLY TO THE EXTENT AUTHORIZED BY THE TOWN'S NORMAL CODE. UNLESS THE PROPERTY OWNER SEEKS TO OPERATE THIS USE, MUST SUBMIT A NEW APPLICATION FOR A ZONING AMENDMENT REAUTHORIZING KIND OF THE DEVIATIONS FROM THOSE STANDARDS. SO, IT'S SAYING THAT THAT WAY IT WILL GIVE A FULL YEAR OF EVENTS AND THEN TIME TO REAPPLY FOR THAT REAUTHORIZATION. SO, THAT'S THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WORDED. THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH THAT PROPOSED CHANGE ASSUMING THAT EVERYTHING WAS GOING WELL, THEN THEY DIDN'T THINK IT WOULD REALLY BE A PROBLEM. SO, LEXIN FOR THE REAUTHORIZATION, I'M SORRY, REAUTHORIZATION. WOULD THAT COME TO COUNCIL AGAIN ON AN ANNUAL BASIS? YES. SO, COUNCIL, WE'VE HAD THIS COME UP BEFORE. AND TYPICALLY, WHEN WE DO THIS EXPIRING ORDINANCE, IT IT'S BEEN MY RECOLLECTION THAT IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY RENEW UNLESS THERE WAS SOMETHING FOUND BY COUNSEL FOR VIOLATIONS FROM STAFF. THAT STAFF BRINGS IT TO COUNCIL AND SAYS, HEY, YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER YOU ARE REMEMBERING CORRECTLY THAT THAT'S HOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT BEFORE. THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT'S BECAUSE WHEN THIS SITUATION CAN COME UP BEFORE IT WAS WITH AN ASSOCIATION WITH A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. AND SO, THE TOWN HAS LANGUAGE WITHIN OUR CODE THAT KIND OF OUTLINES A PROCESS FOR AN AUTOMATIC RENEWAL FOR SUPS. AND SO, COUNCIL CAN CHOOSE TO JUST APPLY THOSE THAT KIND OF STANDARD LANGUAGE TO AN SUP RENEWAL PROCESS. BECAUSE THIS ISN'T A SUP. IT'S KIND OF THE ACTUAL ZONING ORDINANCE. SO, THAT'S WHY LEGAL HAD TO COME UP WITH A DIFFERENT WAY TO WRITE IT. SO, IN THIS CASE, THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO SUBMIT THE APPLICATION REQUESTING THE REAUTHORIZATION WITHIN TWO YEARS OF THE APPROVAL OF THIS ORDINANCE, IF IT WAS APPROVED. AND SO, THEY'D HAVE TO PAY NEW FEES AND GO THROUGH THE WHOLE E-TRACK THE WHOLE PROCESS. AGAIN, THEY WOULD, I THINK IT WOULD BE A MUCH MORE SIMPLIFIED PROCESS. BECAUSE WE WOULD JUST, WE'D KIND OF, WE'D COME UP WITH SOMETHING FOR A REAUTHORIZATION BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD JUST BE LOOKING AT THE SAME THINGS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, AS FAR AS WE WOULD BE CHECKING TO SEE IF THERE WERE ANY COMPLAINTS OR ISSUES. AND IF NOT, IT WOULD COME FORWARD JUST AS A REAUTHORIZATION REQUEST. AND THE APPLICANT AND COUNCIL AT THAT TIME WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY BECAUSE YOU'RE TRULY OPENING THE ZONING. IT'S NOT JUST AN AUTO RENEWAL. YOU WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO CHANGE THOSE PARAMETERS. IF YOU'RE LIKE, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN GREAT. I DON'T WANT YOU TO COME BACK EVERY TWO YEARS. SO, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT FIVE YEARS OR TEN YEARS OR WHATEVER YOU WOULD WANT TO DO. UM, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT ABILITY BECAUSE IT WOULD BE OPENING THE ZONING RATHER THAN JUST AN AUTO RENEWAL. BUT IF IT'S A ZONING REQUEST, IT ALSO HAS TO GO THROUGH P AND Z BEFORE IT COMES TO US. IT WOULD YES, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE STANDARD KIND OF ZONING PARAMETERS AND THE PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE IN THE PAPER PROPERTY OWNER NOTICE IS MAILED UM P AND Z AND COUNCIL. IS THAT WHAT COUNCIL WANTS? I MEAN, WE JUST HEARD LIKE LET'S HAVE MORE ACTIVITIES AND DO MORE FUN STUFF. YET WE'RE JUST NOW SAYING LET'S OVER LEGISLATE IT AND MAKE THEM COME BACK EVERY YEAR. IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNUSUAL KIND OF ACTIVITY, A CARNIVAL AND A CIRCUS. YEAH, BUT THERE IS ALSO ADJACENCY. THERE ARE ADJACENT, BUT NOT FOR THREE WEEKS PLUS BUILD UP AND TEAR DOWN. THAT'S A LOT LONGER, ISN'T IT? LIKE, COULD THAT BE FIVE WEEKS MAYBE. YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS WHEN THIS PROJECT INITIALLY WENT ASTRAY AND NOW IT'S SO HEAVILY RESIDENTIAL, LIKE MANY OTHER DEVELOPMENTS IN TOWN, IT CREATED ADJACENCY CHALLENGES AND CONCERNS BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE RESIDENTS WHO, ON A WEEKDAY MIGHT WANT THEIR CHILDREN TO BE GOING TO BED IN A QUIET PLACE, AND THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR LIVE MUSIC AT 10:00 AT NIGHT ANYWHERE IN THIS WHOLE DEVELOPMENT. WELL, THEN, LET'S CHANGE. LET'S CHANGE THAT ORDINANCE SAYING THIS IS THE HISTORY OF HOW I THINK THIS IS WHERE WE ARE TODAY. AND THAT'S WHY I THINK P AND Z SUGGESTED THE SAFEGUARD OF ASKING THEM TO COME BACK TO SEE HOW THE RESIDENTS FEEL ABOUT IT. YOU KNOW, IS IT KEEPING THEM UP AT NIGHT? IS IT CREATING OTHER PROBLEMS? YOU KNOW, A CARNIVAL IS DIFFERENT THAN A CIRCUS. THE CIRCUS WAS WELL RECEIVED, BUT A CARNIVAL HAS MORE LIGHTS. IT HAS RIDES, IT HAS NOISE. YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFERENT. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY WANTED TO CONDITIONALLY GIVE SOME APPROVAL AND SEE HOW IT GOES. JUST IF THAT WORDING IS OF CONCERN TO COUNCIL, I WILL SAY I DON'T THINK THE APPLICANT HAS ANY PLANS FOR A CARNIVAL AND THEY CAN CONFIRM WHEN THEY GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION. I THINK THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE CIRCUS. SO, THEY WOULD POTENTIALLY BE OPEN PROBABLY TO AMENDING THAT USE NAME. IS THAT A CONCERN? COULD WE? COULD WE? WELL, YEAH, I'M OKAY WITH EXTENDING IT IF IT'S JUST THE CIRCUS. BECAUSE THE CIRCUS, I MEAN, I ATTENDED IT, AND IT WAS SO THE CARNIVAL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SEMI-TRUCKS THAT COME IN AND HAVE THE WILLY WOO THING AND ALL THAT WITH THE FLASHING LIGHTS, LIKE LAS VEGAS, RIGHT? YEAH. RIDES AND THAT'S KIND OF JUST THAT'S THE USE NAME WITHIN OUR CODE. [03:30:02] I KNOW IT'S NOT A WILLY WOO I COULDN'T THINK. IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC THAT WAS REQUESTED HERE. THAT'S WHAT WE CALL THAT IN OUR CODE IS CARNIVAL OUR CIRCUS. I MEAN, I CAN GET THAT IN, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BIG. LIKE HIM HAVING TO COME BACK EVERY YEAR. AND THEN PUT SOMETHING ELSE THERE. JUST PEOPLE DON'T OBJECT TO ADDED LANGUAGE IN HERE. THAT SAID, IN COORDINATION WITH THE APPLICANT. THAT SAID, THERE WILL BE A MINIMUM OF 90 DAYS BETWEEN THE OCCURRENCES OF THE CIRCUS SO THAT IT'S NOT TWICE A YEAR BUT ENDS UP LIKE BACK-TO-BACK OR CROSSING INTO THE NEXT YEAR OR THAT SORT. SO JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, WOULD LIKE A BIG CHRISTMAS LIGHT FIESTA THAT YOU DRIVE THROUGH. IS THAT CONSIDERED A CARNIVAL OR A CIRCUS, OR IS THAT JUST A, WOULD THAT FALL UNDER EITHER OF THOSE? WE WOULD PROBABLY NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT, WHAT IT WAS ENTAILED WITHIN THAT. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE A COP OUT, BUT IT REALLY IS. THERE'S SO MANY, LIKE, QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DETAILS FOR US TO KIND OF STAFF TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OF WHAT KIND OF PROCESS THIS NEEDS TO GO THROUGH. AND, YOU KNOW, IS IT SOMETHING THAT'S IMPACTING TRAFFIC? IS IT IMPACTING I MEAN, IF IT'S A DRIVE THRU EVENT, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE IMPACTING TRAFFIC. AND SO THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY NEED TO BE CONSIDERED A A SPECIAL EVENT POSSIBLY. OR, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM IF YOU WERE WANTING TO DO IT FOR A MONTH, BECAUSE OUR SPECIAL EVENTS ARE TYPICALLY ONLY ALLOWED TO LAST FOR LIKE A WEEK. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE WANTING TO EXTEND HOW LONG A CIRCUS CAN LAST FOR. NOW, I AGREE WITH YOU, MAYOR, THAT THIS THIS DOES MAKE MORE SENSE IN TERMS OF THE VISION. AND I THINK THEY NEED THESE KINDS OF EVENTS TO DRIVE TRAFFIC. BUT LET'S KEEP IT OPEN ENDED. LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. LET'S LOOK AT IT IN TWO YEARS IF WE NEED TO TAKE CARNIVAL OUT. YOU KNOW, THEN AT THAT POINT, I DON'T THINK WE'LL NEED TO DEMAND REAUTHORIZATION AGAIN. BUT AT THIS POINT, LET'S JUST KEEP IT WIDE OPEN, SEE WHAT HAPPENS, AND THEN TAKE A LOOK IN TWO YEARS. AND I THINK THIS IS THESE ARE ALL REALLY GOOD IDEAS. YEAH, I AGREE. AND IN GENERAL, I DON'T LIKE HAVING TO COME BACK. BUT THIS GIVES A TWO-YEAR WINDOW. UM, AND TO YOUR POINT, I THINK THIS IS GOING TO GENERATE THE ACTIVITY AND THE BUZZ TO GIVE SOME LIFE INTO THE RIVERWALK. SO, I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NET POSITIVE. BUT THIS AND ESPECIALLY THE APPLICANT'S OKAY WITH THIS LANGUAGE. SO, LET'S DO THAT. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE WORDING AS IT IS. AND THEN IN TWO YEARS IF EVERYTHING IS GOING AS WE ANTICIPATE THEN WE MAKE IT IN PERPETUITY. DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND RENEW IT AFTER THAT. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON. SO, THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF SIGNAGE CHANGES THAT ARE REQUESTED WITH THIS ORDINANCE AMENDMENT. SO, THE FIRST IS THIS WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGNAGE. THIS IS THE PROPOSED LOCATION. AND SO, THE APPLICANT IS WANTING TO IDENTIFY THE RESTAURANTS, AND I THINK ALSO POTENTIALLY THE CHAPEL AND RECEPTION HALL, BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF RIGHT AT THAT INTERSECTION. THERE WAS PREVIOUSLY ANOTHER DOT THERE THAT WAS GOING TO BE ASSIGNED FOR THE CHAPEL OR RECEPTION HALL. SO, IN TALKING TO THE APPLICANT, THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN COMBINE IT INTO THIS SIGN NOW AND JUST HAVE THE ONE SIGN. SO, THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 25FT, MAXIMUM WIDTH WOULD BE TEN FEET, IT WOULD BE INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED. AND AN EXTERNAL LIGHT WILL ILLUMINATE THE RIVERWALK PORTION OF THE SIGN AND AT THE TOP OF THE TENANT SIGNS. THERE'S ALSO A MARQUEE SIGN THAT'S PROPOSED. THIS WOULD BE THE LOCATION. YOU CAN ON THIS BANK OF AMERICA TOWER BUILDING RIGHT HERE. AND SO, THIS GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT SIGN WOULD LOOK LIKE. IT'S A MARQUEE SIGN IDENTIFYING THE DEVELOPMENT WITH NO ADVERTISING, LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF CENTRAL PARK AND LONG PRAIRIE ROAD. MAXIMUM HEIGHT WOULD BE 27FT, AND THE MAXIMUM WIDTH WOULD BE TWO FEET, SIX INCHES. IT WOULD COMPLY WITH REGULATIONS FROM THE CODE, EXCEPT THAT ILLUMINATION SHALL BE INTERNAL. A COUPLE OF OTHER PROPOSALS OF SIGN CHANGES. HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT WANTED TO WRITE IN THESE AS POTENTIAL FUTURE SIGN OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEY DIDN'T HAVE ALL THE DETAILS YET. SO, THEY ALSO WROTE IN THAT THIS WOULD, IT WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A ZONING AMENDMENT IN THE FUTURE SHOWING THE LOCATION AND DESIGN. SO THEY WANTED TO CREATE THE SIGNAGE TYPE, BUT NOT ACTUALLY THEY DIDN'T ACTUALLY KNOW YET THE SIZING OR WHERE THEY WANTED TO PLACE IT. SO THEY'RE KIND OF RESERVING THE RIGHT TO COME BACK IN THE FUTURE. UM, SO THE FIRST IS THIS PICTURE SPOT SIGNAGE, A SIGN IDENTIFYING THE DEVELOPMENT WITH NO ADVERTISING. MAXIMUM HEIGHT TEN FEET, MAXIMUM WIDTH IS 50. SO, THIS JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WERE ENVISIONING. AND THEN ALSO WALL MURALS. I KNOW THAT'S A TOPIC OF INTEREST TO THE COUNCIL. SO, WALL MURALS WITHOUT ADVERTISING MAY BE PERMITTED ON NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. UM, BUT THEY WOULD REQUIRE APPROVAL OF A ZONING AMENDMENT BY THE TOWN COUNCIL SHOWING THE LOCATION AND DESIGN. AND SO JUST TO CLARIFY. SORRY. GO AHEAD. YOU SURE GO AHEAD. [03:35:01] SO, IF IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE APPROVAL BY COUNCIL IN THE FUTURE, WHAT'S THE POINT OF HAVING THIS INCLUDED AT THIS TIME? I GUESS THEY JUST WANTED TO CREATE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THIS TYPE OF SIGN. WHAT WOULD BE THE FUTURE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TO IDENTIFY THE LOCATION AND DESIGN. SO, I THINK THEY'RE WANTING TO FIND OUT IS COUNCIL OKAY WITH THESE TYPE OF SIGNS IN IDEA. AND THEN IF SO, THEN WE CAN COME FORWARD WITH THOSE SPECIFICS OF WHERE WE COULD PLACE THEM AND WHAT THEY MIGHT LOOK LIKE. UNDERSTOOD. THANKS. SO, ON THE WALL MURALS WITHOUT ADVERTISING. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IT COULD SAY FLOWER MOUND OR RIVERWALK, BUT IT COULDN'T SAY THE NAME OR BRAND NAME OF ONE OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE. IT PROBABLY COULDN'T SAY RIVERWALK IF IT WAS NOT TO BE ADVERTISING TO ME. AGAIN, WHAT THEY ARE ENVISIONING BASED ON THE EXAMPLE PICTURE IS MORE AN ACTUAL PAINTING TYPE OF THING, NOT ADVERTISING, BUT JUST KIND OF A BUILDING BEAUTIFICATION. YOU CAN CONFIRM THAT WITH THE APPLICANT FOR THEIR PRESENTATION. OKAY. ALSO, SIGNAGE CHANGES FOR A MULTIFAMILY AND MIXED-USE BUILDING. THE CURRENT STANDARDS WHEN IT COMES TO FOR LEASE SIGNS IS YOU CAN HAVE ONE FOR LEASE SIGN ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES A STREET. WHAT THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING IS ONE FOR LEASE SIGN ON EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT FACES A STREET AND ALSO IF IT FACES A BLOCK INTERIOR. SO, THERE WAS ALSO CONVERSATION ABOUT HAVING MID-BLOCK SIGNS AS WELL. P AND Z SUGGESTED THAT BE REDUCED TO JUST THE TWO DIFFERENT KINDS, AND THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH THAT. NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS WITH MULTI-TENANT INTERIOR ACCESS. CURRENT STANDARD IS TWO SIGNS FOR EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING A STREET, AND ONE WALL SIGN PER BUILDING WALL WITH STREET FRONTAGE AND ONE ADDITIONAL SIGN AT EACH BUILDING CORNER. WHAT'S PROPOSED IS ONE SIGN FOR EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND ONE WALL SIGN PER BUILDING WALL WITH STREET OR PRIVATE DRIVE FRONTAGE, AND ONE ADDITIONAL SIGN PER A SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WITH A PUBLIC ENTRANCE FACING A BLOCK. INTERIOR. FOR NONRESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. CURRENT STANDARDS. AS FOR IDENTIFICATION OF THE BUILDING, A MAXIMUM OF TWO SIGNS SHALL BE PERMITTED FOR EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING A STREET, AND THEN IT LISTS OUT THE TYPE OF SIGNS THOSE CAN BE. THEY ARE REQUESTING TO INCREASE THAT TO A MAXIMUM OF THREE SIGNS SHALL BE PERMITTED FOR EACH SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING A STREET, AND IT STILL LIMITED TO JUST BUILDING IDENTIFICATION, WALL SIGN, GROUND SIGN, BLADE SIGN, AWNING SIGN, WINDOW SIGN OR CANOPY SIGN. CURRENTLY, THE HOSPITAL STANDARDS SAY A MAXIMUM OF TWO BUILDING IDENTIFICATION GROUND SIGNS TO BE LOCATED ALONG 2499 AT THE MAIN ENTRY DRIVEWAY AND THE EMERGENCY ENTRY DRIVEWAY. WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED IS MAXIMUM OF THREE BUILDING IDENTIFICATION GROUND SIGNS TO BE LOCATED ALONG 2499 AT THE MAIN ENTRY DRIVEWAY AND THE EMERGENCY ENTRY DRIVEWAY AND THEN GROUND SIGNS. CURRENT STANDARD. THERE'S NO MAXIMUM DIMENSION IN THE CURRENT RIVERWALK ORDINANCE. IT WOULD DEFAULT TO THE MAX 60FT² SIZE FROM THE TOWN'S BASE SIGN ORDINANCE. WHAT'S PROPOSED IS AGAIN, SAME LANGUAGE ABOUT MAXIMUM HEIGHT SHALL BE TEN FEET. MAXIMUM WIDTH SHALL BE TEN FEET. BUT THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF ANY ONE SIGN OF THE SIGN. SO, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS 70FT². PNC RECOMMENDED THIS NUMBER STAY AT 60FT². AND SO THAT'S WHAT WAS WRITTEN INTO THE ORDINANCE. THE APPLICANT WAS STILL WANTED TO REQUEST FROM COUNCIL THAT THAT BE ALLOWED TO GO UP TO 70. THE DEVELOPER ALSO IS REQUESTING THAT A MASONRY BORDER NOT BE REQUIRED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF GROUND SIGNS. THERE ARE SOME SIGNS WITHIN THE HOSPITAL SIGN PACKAGE THAT ARE ALREADY NOT REQUIRED TO HAVE A MASONRY BORDER, SO LEXIN IF THE MOTION WAS AS AMENDED, DOES THAT MEAN THAT'S 60FT? IF DEPENDING ON WHAT COUNCIL WANTED TO DO, IF YOU WANT TO HAVE 60, IT WOULD BE AS PRESENTED BECAUSE STAFF ALWAYS UPDATES THE ORDINANCE BASED ON WHAT P AND Z RECOMMENDS. IF YOU WANT IT TO BE WHAT THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING, THEN YOU WOULD AND YOU WERE RECOMMENDING APPROVAL, AND YOU WOULD SAY RECOMMEND APPROVAL BUT WITH AN INCREASE TO 70FT² MAX FOR GROUND SIGNS. OKAY. FOR OFF PREMISE SIGNS. DIRECTIONAL SIGNS. CURRENTLY, OFF PREMISE SIGNS ARE PROHIBITED. PROPOSED OFF PREMISE SIGNS SHALL BE PERMITTED TO ADVERTISE DEVELOPMENTS AND BUSINESSES WITHIN THE RIVERWALK, AS PERMITTED BY ARTICLE 11 AND THE GROUND SIGN EXHIBIT. SO, I THINK THIS IS SPECIFICALLY TO HELP THE RESTAURANTS BECAUSE OFF SITE SIGNAGE ISN'T PERMITTED CURRENTLY, THEY'RE VERY LIMITED IN TRYING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE RESTAURANTS SINCE THEY'RE LOCATED MORE INTERNAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT. ALSO, FOR WINDOW SIGNS CURRENT STANDARDS. THE TOWN SIGN ORDINANCE DOESN'T ALLOW NEON SIGNS EXCEPT FOR AN OPEN SIGN. ORIGINALLY, THE APPLICANT WAS REQUESTING NEON SIGNS TO BE ALLOWED AS WINDOW SIGNS. [03:40:05] BASED ON PA'S FEEDBACK, THEY UPDATED THAT TO BE LED SIGNS RATHER THAN NEON SIGNS. AND SO, LED SIGNS WOULD BE ALLOWED AS WINDOWS SIGNS. THEY WOULD COUNT TOWARD THE STANDARDS THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE AS FAR AS WHAT'S ALLOWED WITHIN A WINDOW SIGN, IT WOULD JUST BE ABLE TO BE LED RATHER THAN A FLAT, UNLIT SIGN. LED WINDOW SIGNS ARE LIMITED TO ONE SIGN PER PROPERTY, AND THE SIGN SHALL NOT DIRECTLY FACE LONG PRAIRIE ROAD, MORRIS ROAD OR CROSS TIMBERS ROAD. AND THAT WAS ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS THAT PNC RECOMMENDED THAT THE APPLICANT WAS OKAY WITH. AND THEN HERE ALSO IS JUST A SIGNAGE EXHIBIT TO SHOW YOU WHERE ALL SIGNS ARE BEING PROPOSED. SO, THE RED DOTS ARE EXISTING GROUND SIGNS. THE BLUE DOTS ARE PROPOSED. NEW PROPOSED GROUND SIGNS. THE PURPLE DOT IS THE WATER. THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN. THIS GREEN DOT IS A PROPOSED NEW GROUND SIGN THAT WOULD BE SPECIFIC TO THE RESTAURANTS. AND THEN THIS BLUE SIGN IS JUST AN ALREADY APPROVED SIGN THAT'S NEVER BEEN CONSTRUCTED. SO AGAIN, WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT WHERE THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN WOULD BE GOING. THIS GREEN DOT IS A NEWLY PROPOSED SIGN. AGAIN, TO TRY TO BE SPECIFIC TO THE RESTAURANTS. THERE WAS ORIGINALLY ANOTHER SIGN PROPOSED ABOUT HERE. I THINK THAT WAS THE PROMENADE TERMINUS SIGN. THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT THAT ONE IN DISCUSSIONS AT PNC. AND SO, THE APPLICANT DID, JUST REMOVE THAT SIGN AS PART OF THIS CONSIDERATION. SO THEN HERE ARE THESE, AS I SAID, THESE BLUE DOTS OR OTHER PROPOSED NEW SIGNS. AND THEN THERE'S TWO NEW SIGNS, PROPOSED NEW SIGNS DOWN HERE AS WELL. THIS AREA IS THEY HAVE SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT CALLED THE RIVERWALK MARKET. SO, WANTING TO HAVE SIGNAGE THERE AS WELL. THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION. THE APPLICANT HAS A PRESENTATION AS WELL. I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. LEXIN. OH, WELL, ONCE AGAIN, HEAR FROM MISS RANDI RIVERA. I ALSO HAVE A NOTE THAT WE HAVE GREG RITZ FROM RWFNB AND KELLY MURRAY FROM MURRAY MEDIA. ALL RIGHT. WELL, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK. AND KELLY MURRAY. AND I'LL GO THROUGH. I HAVE A LITTLE BIT, UM, SOME NEW GRAPHICS TO SHOW YOU ABOUT SOME OF THE SIGNS, BUT I'LL TRY TO GO QUICKLY SO WE CAN GET RIGHT TO QUESTIONS. AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INTERRUPT ME. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ON A PARTICULAR SLIDE IN THE MOMENT. THE MARQUEE SIGN AT CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, RIGHT HERE IN THIS LOCATION, THE PICTURE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING THAT'S THERE TODAY. SO, THE SIGN WOULD BE ATTACHED ON THIS CORNER LOOKING LIKE THIS INDIVIDUAL CHANNEL LETTERS, AND IT WOULD BE THREE SIDES. SO IT'S SOUTHBOUND. NORTHBOUND, AND THEN IT WOULD FACE OUT TOWARDS THE SIGNAL, UM, AND AGAIN, TO GIVE THE IDENTITY OF RIVERWALK. THE FRONT DOOR TO RIVERWALK IS 24.99. UM, AND TO BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BRAND RECOGNITION OUTSIDE OR OUT ALONG THE PERIMETER TO BRING MOTORISTS INTO RIVERWALK IS WHAT WE WE NEED. THERE ARE SO MANY COMMENTS. I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL HEARING THEM TOO, ABOUT WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE. WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW. THAT WAS RIVERWALK. WE JUST FLEW RIGHT PAST IT. UM, AND SO ANYTHING THAT WE CAN PROPOSE THAT IS IN GOOD CHARACTER AND QUALITY, UM, THAT EMBODIES THOSE THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE TOWN AND TO RIVERWALK TO GIVE SOME IDENTITY OUT ON THERE. UM, AND THIS IS, UM, SIMILAR SORT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A TAKE ON WHAT KIND OF LAKESIDE DID, BUT IN A DIFFERENT WAY OF NOT HAVING EXPOSED LIGHTING. IT'S MORE, UM, I THINK IN KEEPING WITH INDIVIDUAL LETTERS THAT WE ARE EXPECTING RIGHT HERE. UM, BUT AGAIN, TO GIVE THE A MORE EXPOSURE OUT THERE, THERE'S A LITTLE GROUND SIGN THERE ON THE NORTH EAST CORNER OF CENTRAL PARK AND 29, AND IT'S, UH, I DON'T KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY THREE FEET TALL, SO IT'S EASY TO MISS WHEN YOU'RE GOING 50 MILES AN HOUR, WHICH MAYBE IT'S 45. SORRY, IT'S PROBABLY 45. UH, IS STILL EASY. UM, SO THAT WAS ONE OF THE PROPOSALS. UM, TO ADD, UH, SIGNAGE IS A CHALLENGE AGAIN AT, UH, AT RIVERWALK. AND SO LEXIN DID A GREAT JOB TALKING ABOUT ALL THESE COLORS, UM, OF THE DIFFERENT DOTS AND WHAT THEY REPRESENT. UM, THE REASON WE'RE DOING THE THREE SIGNS FOR THE HOSPITAL, BECAUSE I ALREADY THEY DID THREE SIGNS. SO WE WERE JUST KIND OF CLARIFYING THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. UM, SO THIS KIND OF GAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS IN THE ORDINANCE, UH, UM, [03:45:03] IN OTHER AREAS. BUT SO GROUND SIGNS, UM, THE CYAN WOULD BE THE PROPOSED GROUND SIGNS FOR ANY BUSINESS. UM, IN RIVERWALK, THE GREEN IS RESTAURANT, UH, SPECIFIC SIGNAGE, UH, AGAIN, OFF PREMISE. THAT'S WHY WE CHANGED THAT. LEXIN IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT IS TO HELP WITH THE RESTAURANTS, BUT ALSO WITH THE CHAPEL SO THAT THEY COULD PUT THEIR SIGN, UM, ON THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN. SO ON 24.99, AS YOU'RE GOING NORTHBOUND, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY LOOKING SOUTHBOUND, BUT THIS IS THE PROMENADE, AND THERE IS A GROUND SIGN THERE, UM, WITH TENANTS AND THE RIVERWALK LOGO. UM, IT'S A PRETTY SMALL TEXT. IT'S HARD TO READ. UM, AND SO WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE IS, UH, THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS FOR GROUND SIGNS, BUT WE HAVE TO UPDATE THE MAP IN ORDER TO ADD THEM TO, UM, BE ALLOWED, UH, MORE LOCATIONS. AND SO THE GREEN DOT WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROMENADE HERE ON THE SOUTH SIDE, SORT OF WHERE MY POINTER IS LOCATED. IF WE CAN GET IT UP HERE, WE PROBABLY WILL JUST WE NEED TO WORK THROUGH WHAT'S THERE. UM, BUT GET IT AS CLOSE TO 24.99 AS POSSIBLE. MORE THAN LIKELY IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER TO WHERE IT WILL HAVE SOME RESTAURANT NAMES ON IT, AND LOOK KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT'S HERE, BUT BIGGER TEXT. UH, MAYBE A FEW RESTAURANTS ON THERE, BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THIS THE SMALL TEXT THAT'S HERE. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT GREEN DOT REPRESENTS. UM, THE RED DOT ON THIS MAP IS THIS SIGN. ALL RIGHT. THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN IN THAT PURPLE LOCATION. JUST TALKING ABOUT THE DESIGN THEME OF RIVERWALK. UM. IT. YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN PRETTY COMPLIMENTARY THROUGH THE EVOLUTION OF RIVERWALK SINCE 2008. UM, BUT WHEN WE WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH ARCHITECTS TO DESIGN RESTAURANT ROW AND THE CHAPEL, THE WATERWORKS BUILDING AND, UM, THE OTHER AMENITIES ON THE SITE REALLY KIND OF HONED IN ON THAT DESIGN, LOOKING AT INDUSTRIAL, LOOKING AT SHIPPING DOCKS. UM, UM, JUST THOSE YARDS OVER AND KIND OF ON THE EASTERN SEABOARD THERE OF EXPOSED KIND OF METAL IRON, YOU KNOW, THAT BLACK ACCENT ON BRICK AND STONE? UM, AND SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE BREEZEWAYS YOU SEE IT ON THE CLOCK TOWER, YOU'LL SEE IT ALONG THE RESTAURANTS. UM, AND DEFINITELY AT THE WATERWORKS BUILDING. UM, UM, AND THEN THE RIVERWALK SIGN. SO THIS, UH, THIS MATERIAL THAT'S THIS BLACK COLOR ON TOP OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A MASONRY KIND OF STRUCTURE, LIKE YOU SEE HERE WITH THESE COLUMNS AND WITH THE CLOCK TOWER IS WHAT WE WERE GOING FOR, UM, WHEN DESIGNING THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN TO BLEND IN. AND SO HERE IT IS ON THE LEFT. UM, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN LEXINGTON'S. UH, WE WERE ABLE TO UPDATE A RENDERING BY 5:00 TODAY. UH, AND IT WAS, UH, UH, SORT OF, UH, JUST KIND OF LAST MINUTE. BUT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO IS LOOK AT IF WHERE WE POSITION THIS IS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE DRIVING BY RIVERWALK DRIVE AND THEY'LL CALL GREG OR, UM, THE OTHERS AND TO SAY, HEY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IS PIEHOLE? I'M RIGHT HERE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. I'M ON RIVERWALK DRIVE, AND HE HAS TO TELL HIM, OH, YOU'RE HERE, SO TURN LEFT. SO IF WE PUT THIS ARROW OUT THERE, THAT WOULD HELP WITH MORE WAYFINDING ONCE YOU'RE INSIDE RIVERWALK. BECAUSE AS THEY'RE GOING DOWN RIVERWALK DRIVE, ALL THEY SEE IS THE PARKING, THE THE PODIUM PARKING STRUCTURE, NOT NECESSARILY THE BUILDINGS BEYOND IT. UM, AND SO THIS THIS SIGN IS MEANT TO HELP, HELP PEOPLE NAVIGATE. I THINK YOU'VE SEEN SOME OF THE TEMPORARY SIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE TO FIND THE RESTAURANTS, AND THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB OF TRYING TO DIRECT PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA TO. BUT HOW CAN WE HELP JUST THOSE PEOPLE WHO WHO ARE CURIOUS, MAYBE THEY ARE COMING IN FROM OUT OF TOWN AND THEY JUST WANT WHAT WHAT'S OVER THERE? UM, AND THIS WILL HELP WITH WITH THAT. RANDY. YES, SIR. HOW LARGE WOULD THE INDIVIDUAL RESTAURANT SIGNS BE? THE. AND THE LETTERS TO IDENTIFY THE RESTAURANTS. SO THIS MAROON PART OF THE ALLEY THAT IS ONE FOOT FOUR INCHES. AND SO THESE OTHER BLADES ARE THE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME HEIGHT. THEY'RE SO ABOUT ONE FOOT, INSTEAD OF THAT SMALLER SIGN THAT YOU SAW ON 29, THIS WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. I'M JUST WANTING TO MAKE SURE IF YOU'RE GOING TO PUT UP A SIGN THAT IT'S ACTUALLY LEGIBLE. UM, AS THEY'RE GOING BY AT 25 MILES AN HOUR. YEAH. YES, AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THE RESTAURANT OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO DO AS WELL, TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT BIGGER. UM, AND SO THIS SIGN HAS, UH, LIGHTING WITH THE LETTERS HERE IN WATERFRONT AND ALLEY. THOSE ARE INDIVIDUAL LETTERS AS WELL. AND THEN THERE'S, UM, ON THE PREVIOUS DESIGN, AND WE'LL HAVE TO GET THE DETAILS INTO THE TOWN ON THIS ONE ONCE WE TURN IN THE PERMIT. UH, BUT THEY'RE, UM, THE ALLEY LETTERS ARE LIT, AND THEN THERE WOULD BE AN ARM WHERE IT WOULD BE SOME DOWN LIGHTING SHOWING THE THE BLADE OR THE SIGNS FOR THE RESTAURANT TENANTS THEMSELVES. AND THAT'S HOW THEY WOULD BE LIT IS FROM DOWN LIGHTING. [03:50:02] UM, SO THIS IS, UH, MY PHOTOSHOP SKILLS RIGHT NOW, BUT THIS IS THE LOCATION. UM, THIS SIGN IS A 4X4 BASE. UM, IT'S, YOU KNOW, BIGGER THAN AN APARTMENT. YEAH. WELL, YEAH, OFF IN THE DISTANCE. AND THEN HOW THIS GOES DOWNHILL, OBVIOUSLY INTO THE BOTTOM LEVEL OF THE GARAGE. UH, BUT THIS, WE BELIEVE IS THE BEST LOCATION WHERE THE STAR IS LOCATED AS YOU'RE COMING SOUTH. THAT WAY YOU CAN SEE IT BEFORE THE TURN AND THEN LOOK AT THE ARROW AND. NO, THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S WHERE I NEED TO GO. UM, AND SO THAT WILL HELP WHEN PEOPLE ARE NAVIGATING THEIR WAY DOWN THERE. BUT IT IS IN THIS LOCATION. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT IS SIGNS AND THEN THE USES. LEXIN DID A GREAT JOB GOING OVER THAT. UM, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN IN THE DISCUSSIONS WITH ABOUT THE, UM, SPECIAL USE, UH, SPECIAL EVENT PERMITS. AND OVER THE LAST YEAR, UM, AND THERE WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE RECOGNIZED OR HEARD THAT WE WERE LIMITED TO SIX. SO WE KNEW WE WANTED TO AMEND THAT. AND AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'VE GOTTEN MORE CLARITY, WHICH HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL ON WHAT COUNTS AS A SPECIAL USE PERMIT AND WHAT WE CAN DO OR WHAT THE RESTAURANT OWNERS CAN DO WITHOUT A SPECIAL USE PERMIT. SO IT REALLY IS ABOUT BRINGING IN THOSE OUTSIDE VENDORS WHERE YOU'RE CROSSING PROPERTY LINES. UM, SO THAT WAS THAT WAS REALLY NICE TO HEAR, ESPECIALLY FOR THE GREG AND HIS TEAM SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS COMING OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR CHRISTMAS OR OTHER EVENTS, UH, THAT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS A SPECIAL EVENT AND ENJOY THE RESTAURANTS, UM, UH, AND HAVE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO, YOU KNOW, MARKET THE RESTAURANTS AND BRING PEOPLE IN. UM, THE DUCK DERBY IS A SPECIAL EVENT. IT'S CROSSING PROPERTY LINES. WE'RE BRINGING IN OUTSIDE VENDORS WINNING THE FIGHT, STOMP AND SIGMA. ALL OF THOSE ARE, UM, AND SO THE ADDITION TO OR THE REQUEST TO ADD 15, WE WOULD LIKE TO EVEN THOUGH WE WERE ABLE TO GET CLARIFICATION AFTER THIS PROCESS HAS STARTED, UM, WE WANT TO KEEP THE REQUEST AT 15 SO THAT IT CAN OPEN UP TO ALL TYPES OF ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND USE RIVERWALK AS A GATHERING PLACE, DOING THE FIVE K, IT'S A GREAT PLACE FOR THAT. UM, AND THEN THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT THE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO CONSENT. SO THAT'S THAT WAS GOOD. THERE WAS UM, UH, THAT WAY THE RESTAURANT AND OWNERS ARE AWARE OF THE EVENTS. IF THEY NEED TO USE A PARKING GARAGE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY'RE MADE AWARE BECAUSE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TO CONSENT. UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT THEY HAD, UM, THAT WE HAD THAT ANYONE COULD COME IN AND ASK FOR A SPECIAL EVENT, AND IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY WE WOULDN'T BE THEY WOULDN'T BE NOTIFIED. AND THAT WOULD BE A CONCERN BECAUSE YOU WANT TO COORDINATE AND KNOW WHAT KIND OF EVENTS ARE GOING ON. UM, AND SO THE TALKING WITH LEXIN AND MATT AT THE TOWN THAT WILL PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO GIVE CONSENT. UM, SO THAT'S GOOD. AND THEN GREG AND KELLY HERE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH GREG'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE POA. UM, AND THEY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THAT POA TO ENSURE THAT THERE IS, UH, COHESIVE COORDINATION, COMMUNICATION MORE, YOU KNOW, MORE FREQUENT MEETINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT SO THAT PEOPLE ARE MADE THE POA BOARD IS MADE AWARE OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING. SO THAT IS REALLY GOOD TO KIND OF GET THAT ALL KIND OF UNDER ONE, KIND OF ONE, I GUESS. UMBRELLA, IF YOU WILL, OF KNOWING WHAT'S HAPPENING AT RIVERWALK. UM, SO THAT IS NOT JUST KIND OF ANYBODY WHO'S REQUESTING IT, BUT SO THAT HELPED CLEAR UP A FEW THINGS. UM, AND THEN WE DID HAVE THIS IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING I MENTIONED IN THE OTHER CASE, UH, OF THE FOLKS THAT CAME OUT AT WHISKEY AND SMOKE, WE TALKED ABOUT SIGNAGE AND WE TALKED ABOUT OTHER THINGS INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION. AND THE GENERAL CONSENSUS OF THE ROOM WAS WE MOVED TO RIVERWALK BECAUSE OF THE, UM, THE ACTIVITY THAT WE WANT TO SEE HERE. AND WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE RESTAURANTS. WHAT OTHER RESTAURANTS ARE YOU BRINGING? WE WANT BREAKFAST, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GREG'S TALKING ABOUT HE'S HE'S WORKING ON THAT. UM, AND SO THE THE RESIDENTS WERE EXCITED ABOUT THE UPCOMING CHANGES. THEY THEY WANTED THE RIVERWALK TO BE THRIVING. AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP? WELL, HERE'S WHAT YOU KNOW. WHERE'S HOW DO WE GET IN FRONT OF THE PARR? SO GREG AND KELLY HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THE RESIDENTS ON THAT, TOO. UM, BUT IT WAS GOOD TO TO HAVE THAT MEETING AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH THEM. AND WE WERE THANKFUL FOR THEIR INPUT BECAUSE. AND THEY'RE VISITING THE RESTAURANTS AND EVERYTHING TOO, BECAUSE THEY'RE HELPING WITH THAT SUPPORT. SO ALL GOOD THINGS THERE. BUT, UM, THOSE ARE OUR REQUESTS. UH LEXIN WENT INTO A LOT OF DETAIL. I DON'T REALLY THINK I NEED TO, BUT IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE ME TO, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. COUNCIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SO I WAS AT THE RIVERWALK YESTERDAY. IN FACT, I RAN INTO BOBBY THERE. IT WAS THE CHRISTMAS EVENT. IT WAS REALLY FUN, BUT WE PARKED ON THE UPPER PART OF THE GARAGE. AND THEN I REMEMBERED SOMETHING I KIND OF WANTED TO ASK YOU BEFORE, IF YOU GO TO SLIDE SIX, YOU CAN SEE WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT. [03:55:03] SO DO YOU SEE KIND OF ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WITH THE RIVERWALK SIGN. BUT WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING UP LIKE THE PROMENADE AND YOU'RE ON THE PARKING, IT'S BACKWARDS. SO DO YOU HAVE PLANS TO MAKE THAT GO THE RIGHT WAY FROM THAT DIRECTION? SO THAT ACTUALLY SAYS, HEY, THIS IS RIGHT WHERE IT IS. I BELIEVE IT. I WILL LET GREG ANSWER THAT. IF I COULD DEFER TO GREG, BECAUSE I DO. I'VE HEARD HIM HEARD THEM TALK ABOUT THAT BEING SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE. I MEAN, IT LOOKS REALLY PRETTY FROM THAT SIDE, BUT THAT'S YOU'RE ALREADY THERE, LIKE YOU ALREADY KNOW YOU'RE THERE. SO YOU SHOULD HOPEFULLY YOU SHOULD. RIGHT? YEAH. IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS REVERSED, GREG, IF YOU DON'T MIND. OR BOTH. LIKE, I KNOW IT WOULD CHANGE THE CHARACTERISTIC OF THE SIGN. YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH IT ANYMORE, BUT AT LEAST. YOU KNOW. THANK YOU. GREG RETZ. 9154 PARSON DRIVE, LANTANA, TEXAS. AND I AM THE OWNER OPERATOR OF THE RESTAURANTS THERE. AND I AGREE, THE SIGN IS BACKWARDS. WE DO HAVE PLANS OR HAVE HAD PLANS DONE WHERE WE WOULD BE REVERSING OR PUTTING THE OTHER SIDE ON THAT. THAT IS NOT PART OF THIS PACKAGE TODAY. NO, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CONCRETE PLAN NOW. YES, I AGREE WE NEED TO DO THAT. SO GOOD. I THINK THAT'LL HELP TOO, BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE SEE IT'S RIGHT THERE. I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE, UM, THE SIGN ON 24.99 WHERE YOU'VE REQUESTED 70FT² AND PNC ASKED FOR 60FT². UH, CAN YOU TALK TO US JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHY YOU BELIEVE 70FT² IS BETTER THAN 60? OTHER THAN THE OBVIOUS, YOU KNOW, BIGGER, EASIER TO SEE WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING DOWN 24.99 AT THIS LEGAL SPEED LIMIT. THE LEGAL SPEED LIMIT. MAKE SURE YOU'RE DOING THAT. UM, SO WE WOULD STILL BE WITHIN THE PARAMETERS OF THE SIGN HEIGHT AND WIDTH MAXIMUMS THAT THE CODE IS TEN FEET AND TEN FEET. UM, FOR THE HEIGHT AND WIDTH. UM, BUT WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO PUT, AS YOU KNOW, NOT MAKE IT ALL THESE SMALL LETTERS. OF COURSE, IT WAS TO THE OBVIOUS IS TO INCREASE THE FONT SIZE AND THE SIGNS FOR THE RESTAURANTS. AND IF WE COULD FIT FOUR ON THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, INSTEAD OF TWO, LIKE YOU'LL DRIVE BY LAKESIDE AND YOU'LL SEE THEY HAVE LIKE THREE GROUND SIGNS WITH TWO RESTAURANTS ON EACH. UM, IF WE COULD DO IT IN A WAY THAT IS, UM, WHERE WE COULD MAYBE FIT FOUR OR SO ON THERE AND IT STILL BE THE SAME SIZE LETTERS AS, AS IT WOULD BE OTHERWISE. UM, AND IT IT JUST HELPS WITH VISIBILITY, BUT IT REALLY IS TO MAKE TO GIVE MORE SPACE TO INCREASE THE, THE LETTERS SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT DRIVING BY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. ANYONE ELSE. SO THE CURRENT ALLOWANCE IS 60FT, RIGHT? SO IT'S LIKE A TEN FOOT WIDE, SIX FOOT TALL SIGN. WHY WHY DID THEY PUT IN SUCH A TINY SIGN IF THAT WAS ALREADY ALLOWED? I'M JUST CURIOUS. LIKE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN SIX FOOT WIDE OR TEN FEET WIDE, SIX FEET TALL VERSUS TEN FEET WIDE. SEVEN FEET TALL. DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE, BUT IT'S SO MUCH DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S THERE NOW. YES. AND THIS ONE WOULD. THIS ONE WOULD STAY. UM, AND IT IS TO HELP WITH ALSO GIVE IDENTITY OF THE BUSINESSES IN THAT RETAIL BUILDING, THOSE TWO RETAIL BUILDINGS THAT ARE THERE. UM, BUT HAVING THAT ONE EXTRA. SQUARE OR TEN EXTRA SQUARE FEET JUST GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY IN HOW BIG WE CAN MAKE THE LETTERS. I MEAN, IT'S REALLY WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO. AND MAYBE IT'S THIS ONE WAS A MORE VERTICAL SIGN. UM, THE ONE IN THIS PICTURE IN THE BOTTOM LEFT IS A MORE HORIZONTAL, AND IT MAY BE MORE CONDUCIVE IF THE RESTAURANT NAMES ARE LONGER, THAT WE DO A HORIZONTAL. AND THEN IT IS, YOU KNOW, THE TEN BY SEVEN INSTEAD OF A TEN BY SIX. SO, RANDY, WHAT SIZE IS. IN THE UPPER LEFT. WHAT SIZE IS THAT SIGN ACTUALLY? IS THAT 60? IT COMPLIES WITH THE 60 SQUARE FEET, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EXACTLY 60. I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION IS, IS BECAUSE IS IT SMALLER THAN THAN 60? I DON'T HAVE THE MEASUREMENTS ON THAT. STOOD IN FRONT OF THAT SIGN AND. I WOULD I? IT'S WHAT I'M THINKING. YEAH. YEAH. THE AND THEN WHERE IT'S I THINK I MENTIONED EARLIER TRYING TO GET THIS GREEN DOT TO BE IN FRONT OF THE TRAIL. AND WE'RE STILL SUBJECT TO VISIBILITY REQUIREMENTS AND EVERYTHING OF COURSE. BUT GETTING OUT THAT CLOSER TO 29 IS POSSIBLE. AND I DON'T THINK ANY OF US CAN ACTUALLY ANSWER AS TO WHY THAT SIGN WAS PUT OR THAT SIZE WAS CHOSEN. SINCE WE WERE INVOLVED AT THAT TIME. THAT IS REALLY MORE I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. I DON'T ALWAYS NEED THE MICROPHONE. THAT IS ACTUALLY MORE OF A DIRECTIONAL SIGN THAN A GROUND, THAN AN IDENTIFICATION SIGN. UM, IT DOES REALLY. IT DOES US. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE RESTAURANT NAMES, CURRENT RESTAURANT NAMES AREN'T EVEN ON THAT SIGN RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT DOES NO GOOD. YOU CANNOT SEE IT FROM 24.99. YOU DEFINITELY CAN'T SEE IT AT 45 OR 50 MILES AN HOUR WHEN YOU'RE COMING DOWN THE ROAD AT ALL. GOOD STUFF. [04:00:02] ANYTHING ELSE? ANY MORE QUESTIONS? ONE THING I ASKED ABOUT WAS THE 15 EVENTS. THAT'S ENOUGH. DID WE CLARIFY THAT WITH STAFF ON THE. THANK YOU. THAT IS THAT IS ENOUGH IN PARTICULAR WITH THE THINGS THAT LEXIN CLARIFIED TO US ABOUT WHAT WE CAN HAVE OR WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE DO NOT NEED A PERMIT FOR. AWESOME. THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU GUYS. ALL RIGHT, SO THE TIME IS 1056. AND I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 8Z200005. THERESA DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS? WE DO NOT. AND IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THE TIME IS 1057 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED. COUNCIL FOR DISCUSSION. I THINK, UH, I THINK THESE CHANGES ARE ALL GOOD. UM, I THINK IT'S GOING TO HELP START THE PROCESS OF, UH, REVITALIZING, INJECTING SOME ENERGY INTO THE RIVERWALK WITH THE ADDITIONAL PERMITS. UH, THE THE BETTER SIGNAGE I THINK WILL BE GOOD TO DRIVE PEOPLE THERE. I'M OKAY WITH THE 70 SQUARE FOOT, UH, INSTEAD OF THE 60 SQUARE FOOT. UM, BUT OVERALL, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD STEP FORWARD. YEAH, I'M ON THE SAME BOAT. I THINK 70 IS IS REASONABLE. I MEAN, ESPECIALLY MICHAEL SAID IN THE BACK, BUT IT'S SO FAR SET BACK FROM THE ROAD, SO IT'S HARD TO SEE. UM, I DID HAVE ACTUALLY. SORRY. ONE MORE QUICK QUESTION THINKING FOR THE MOTION. SORRY. CAN I NOT ASK A QUESTION? YOU CAN. I'LL ALLOW IT. IT'S ONLY AFTER TEN TO CLARIFY BECAUSE I WAS GETTING READY TO MAKE A MOTION. SO IT'S. PLEASE CLARIFY. THANK YOU. SO, LEXIN, I WROTE DOWN THAT YOU SAID IF WE WANTED TO APPROVE THE 70, THE WORDING FOR THAT, BUT I WANTED TO JUST DOUBLE DOUBLE CHECK ON THE TWO YEAR. CLOCK, SO TO SPEAK. SO IS THAT ALREADY WRITTEN IN? SO THE ONLY THING I WOULD HAVE TO AMEND WOULD BE, UM, RECOMMEND APPROVAL, BUT WITH A 70 SQUARE FOOT AS REQUESTED. YES. THE, UM, THE OTHER THING I WOULD ASK IS WHETHER COUNCIL WAS OKAY WITH WHAT RANDY SHOWED AS SOME OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE WATERFRONT ALLEY SIGN. I THINK IT'S LIKE CREATING AN ARROW AND MAKING THE THE RESTAURANT INDIVIDUAL PLATES BIGGER. THEN I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT YOU MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR, UM, AMENDMENT. I CAN GET ON BOARD WITH THAT, BUT NOT THE PHOTOSHOP SKILLS. IT'S OKAY. IT WAS A VERY GOOD ATTEMPT AND I GOT THE MESSAGE. SO. OKAY, SO SO MAKE A MOTION THAT ALSO WOULD SAY, UM, AS PRESENTED TONIGHT WITH GRAPHIC AS PRESENTED TONIGHT, I WOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE, UM, UPDATING THE. I'M SORRY. I'M TRYING TO THINK OF THE BEST WAY TO DO IT. AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING THE UPDATED GRAPHIC FOR STAFF REVIEW. UM, JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO ENSURE THAT IT HAS ALL THE DIMENSIONS TO STAFF REVIEW ALL THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE UPDATED GRAPHIC. UH HUH. OKAY. SORRY. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? THANK YOU. WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION. I MOVE TO APPROVE. ITEM K EIGHT. AS WRITTEN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. TO INCLUDE 70FT². AS REQUESTED FOR SIGNAGE. AND. TO ALLOW THE ALLEY FRONT SIGN, AS DEMONSTRATED TONIGHT, SUBJECT TO STAFF APPROVAL. SECOND. BRYN. I'M FINE WITH THAT. YES. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. COUNCIL MEMBER. TAYLOR. AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER. DREW. AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL. AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN. HI. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL. AYE. ITEM NUMBER 8Z200005. PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE. WE ARE ALMOST DONE. ALRIGHT. SO MOVING ON TO ITEM L, THERE'S NOTHING TO DISCUSS. WE ALREADY DID ITEM M AS IN MARY. SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, THE TIME IS NOW 11:00 EVEN, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED. I CALLED IT BEFORE IT ROLLED OVER. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.