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>> GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND.
[CALL TO ORDER]
THE TIME IS NOW SIX O'CLOCK AND I CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES.
>> HEAVENLY MANY FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO COME HERE TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK OF OUR STAFF, OF OUR COUNCIL, OF OUR RESIDENTS TO HELP US PUT TOGETHER AN AGENDA ITEMS THAT WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS AND CONSIDER AND HOPEFULLY DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR THE TOWN AND CONTINUE TO CREATE COMMUNITY AND AN ENVIRONMENT THAT IS ALL BENEFICIAL TO ALL OF US.
HEAVENLY FATHER, WE ASK YOU TO BLESS THOSE THAT ARE FIRST RESPONDERS AND THOSE THAT ARE OUT IN THE WORLD TONIGHT IN HARM'S WAY, AND WE ASKED YOU TO GIVE A SPECIAL BLESSING TO THEM THAT THEY MAY RETURN SAFELY HOME TO THEIR FAMILIES, AND WE SAY THESE THINGS, THE NAME OF MY SON, JESUS CHRIST, AMEN.
>> THANK YOU. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS?
>> IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.
PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED AND WE'LL BE MOVING ON.
SO MOVING RIGHT INTO OUR WORK SESSION,
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ITEMS WILL LEAD OFF WITH ITEM E1, MR. CHILDERS.>> THANK YOU, MAYOR AND I'M ASKED MARY PETTY WITH A P3 WORKS TO MAKE HURRY UP AND I THINK YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY ON BACK ON OCTOBER 2 MEETING, YOU GUYS SET UP A PUBLIC HEARING FOR NOVEMBER THE 6TH FOR THE DETERMINATION OF SETTING UP THE BOUNDARIES OF A POTENTIAL TOURS NUMBER 2, WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT PROCESS.
WHAT WE WANTED TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF TODAY HERE AT THE WORK SESSION IS GIVING MARY OPPORTUNITY TO COME UP AND SHE'S GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT AND FINANCING PLAN AND ANSWER ANY OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE IN THE RUN-UP TO THE 6TH.
THE ONE THING I WILL NOTE IS THAT GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON SOME OF OUR EFFORTS OF ENGAGING THE PUBLIC OUR WEBSITE DEDICATED FOR CHARGE NUMBER 2 IS UP AND RUNNING.
YOU CAN GET TO IT FROM A LINK ON OUR MAIN PAGE.
TO THIS POINT, WE'VE ONLY RECEIVED ONE EMAIL AND IT WAS JUST SOME CLARIFICATION.
THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE PRELIMINARY PROJECT ON FINANCING PLAN AND WANTED TO SEE BETTER RESOLUTION ON THE MAPS, AND WE POINTED THEM TO CLEAR A MAP CENTERED ON A WEBSITE THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY LINKED THERE.
SO WE WERE HELPED IN INDIVIDUAL OUT.
WE ALSO MAY POST ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND THAT'S BEEN OUT THERE.
SO WE'VE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION IS OUT THERE AND AVAILABLE FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, SO NO UPDATES FROM THE PUBLIC THERE, BUT MARY'S HERE TO WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION.
SHE CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS SHE HAS FOR HER SIDE AND WE HAVE STAFF AVAILABLE IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR US, SO THAT I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MARY.
>> GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I HAVEN'T BEEN BEFORE YOU TWICE BEFORE.
VERY HIGH LEVEL EDUCATION ABOUT TIRZ WHAT IT IS.
THIS EVENING, I'D LIKE TO WALK YOU THROUGH SPECIFICALLY WHAT STAFF HAS BROUGHT BEFORE YOU AS A RECOMMENDATION.
SO JUST TO FRAME WHAT STAFF HAS PRESENTED OR IS PRESENTING, IT ANSWERS SOME QUESTIONS AND SO THERE'S SOME STATISTICS ABOUT WE'VE HAD HALF A MILLION PEOPLE MOVE INTO NORTH TEXAS AND WE'VE PASSED THE 30 MILLION POPULATION MARK AND TEXAS.
SO TARRANT COUNTY AND DENTON COUNTY WERE TWO OF THE FASTEST GROWING COUNTIES, ADDING 30,000 PEOPLE LAST YEAR.
IN STAFF'S OVERVIEW OF WHAT TYPES OF TOOLS THEY NEED IN THE FUTURE IN ORDER TO DEPLOY THE CONSTRUCTION OF MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS AND THE TARGET IS A VERY USEFUL TOOL.
SO THE PRELIMINARY PLAN ADRESSES VERY SPECIFICALLY THOSE PROJECTS, THE MAPS, AS THE CITY MANAGER POINTED OUT OR ARE IN HERE.
SO I WANT TO WALK THROUGH THOSE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL AND THEN PAGE TURN THROUGH THAT DOCUMENT SO THERE'S NO QUESTIONS AND THERE'S GOOD UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT STAFF IS RECOMMENDING AND WHY THIS TOOL IS USEFUL.
SO THE GOALS FOR THIS CHARS IS TO MATCH THE TOWN'S FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS TO THE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS EXPECTED TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, NOT SPECIFIC NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT LARGE TRANSPORTATION, WATER, SEWER INFRASTRUCTURE.
IT ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO MATCH UP
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YOUR INSTALLATION OF THOSE CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH THE TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT.SO YOU'RE NOT GOING OUT THERE BUILDING A ROAD TO NOWHERE, HOPING THAT DEVELOPMENT COMES, YOU CAN ACTUALLY MATCH THOSE TOGETHER.
IT ALSO CREATES PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES FOR OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.
AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION, I'LL SHOW YOU THAT IF ANOTHER TAXING ENTITIES SUCH AS ACCOUNTING WHERE TO PARTICIPATE, WHAT NUMBER OF DOLLARS AT A CERTAIN HYPOTHETICAL NUMBER MIGHT PRODUCE ADDITIONAL REVENUES.
AGAIN, THOSE ARE REVENUES THAT ARE ALREADY PAID BY THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY THAT WOULD BE AVAILABLE TO HELP DEFUSE SOME OF THESE COSTS THAT WE ANTICIPATE THE TOWN WILL NEED TO INCUR.
IT ALSO CREATES PARTICIPATION OPPORTUNITIES TO INCENTIVIZE CERTAIN DESIRABLE USES, AS WELL AS CERTAIN MATERIAL TYPE USES OR FACADE TYPE USES THAT ARE VERY DESIRABLE BY THE TOWN.
SO ULTIMATELY IT IS FINDING A DEDICATED FINANCING MECHANISM TO MATCH TO YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COMPONENTS.
SO THAT'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT THAT TOOL WOULD BE USED FOR.
I HAVE DISSECTED IT INTO SMALLER PIECES IN CASE THAT'S A CONVERSATION WE WANT TO HAVE.
I THINK THE BOUNDARY ON THE WEBSITE WAS VERY CLEAR.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THE PROJECT PLAN, BUT AGAIN, STAFF DID A GREAT JOB OF PUTTING IT OUT ON OUR WEBSITE, SO IT WAS VERY LEGIBLE.
THESE ARE THE MAPS OF THE ACTUAL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
NOW WHEN I SAY WITHIN THE BOUNDARY, WE'RE GOING TO ZOOM IN BECAUSE AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU HAVE SOME PURPLE THAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING THROUGH SOME ROADWAYS OR SOME NEIGHBORHOODS, WILL THE BLUE UNDERLIES IT.
SO THAT'S STILL WITHIN THE ZONE.
BUT YOU SEE THAT IT'S CONNECTING LARGE PARCELS OF LAND THAT ARE ON I35 TO THE ZONE BECAUSE IT'S EXPECTED THAT MAJOR INFRASTRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE NEEDED OUT THERE IN ANTICIPATION OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO AGAIN, THE LEGEND SHOWS YOU THAT THERE'S REUSE PROJECTS, TRANSPORTATION PROJECTS, WATER PROJECTS, AND THEN YOU SEE YOUR TOWN BOUNDARY AND THEN THE BLUE IS THE ACTUAL BOUNDARY OF THE TOURS THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
BUT AGAIN, THESE ARE SPECIFIC CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT BENEFIT THE ENTIRETY OF THAT ZONE AND AREA.
SO THIS IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF THEIR 77 AND THIS IS SOUTH OF 1171.
SO THESE ARE THE ANTICIPATED PROJECT COST.
SO WHEN WE LOOK AT ALL THOSE MAPS, ALL THOSE WATER LINES, SEWER LINES, ROADWAYS, IN TODAY'S DOLLARS, WE'RE LOOKING AT CLOSE TO $380 MILLION THAT THE TOWN COULD POTENTIALLY NEED TO CONSTRUCT OVER THE TERM OF THE TOURS AS DEVELOPMENT OCCURS.
AS I SPOKE OF EARLIER DEVELOPMENTS COMING, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIMING AND LOCATION.
SO THE TIRZ IS DESIRABLE FOR A COMPANY?
>> CAN YOU JUST ELABORATE ON SOFT COSTS?
>> YES. SOFT COST IS ALMOST ALWAYS TIED TO THE ENGINEERING THAT IS NECESSARY IN ORDER TO DESIGN THOSE ROADWAY INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS, THOSE WATER LINES.
SO TYPICALLY, SOFT COSTS ARE A PERCENTAGE OF YOUR HARD COSTS.
SO YOUR ENGINEERS WILL HAVE TO DESIGN, IT, WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A REVIEW, WILL NEED TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE CITY STANDARDS.
OFTENTIMES YOU'LL HAVE TO BE UPDATING WATER MODELS, SEWER CAPACITY, THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO ALL OF THAT WORK THAT'S BEING DONE DOESN'T NECESSARILY GENERATE A ROAD OR A PLANT, BUT IT TELLS THEM HOW TO SIZE AND HOW IT CONSTRUCTED.
SO THAT'S WHAT THAT SOFT COST LINE ITEM IS.
SO THE TIRZ IS DESIRABLE FOR MULTIPLE REASONS.
SPECIFICALLY THIS TIRZ IS BEING RECOMMENDED BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO ALLOW YOU TO CAPTURE VALUE THAT'S NOT YET ON THE GROUND IN ANTICIPATION OF ALL THE RISING COSTS, WE'VE BEEN IN AN ENVIRONMENT OF RISING COSTS FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
YOU ALSO HAVE SOME ISSUES WITH LEAD TIME ON MATERIALS.
SO IN THE EVENT TIRZ IS IN PLACE THERE'S OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN TO START CAPTURING INCREMENT ON MAYBE SOME SMALLER DEVELOPMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING IN ORDER TO BEGIN BUILDING UP FOR THOSE FUTURE LARGER PROJECTS.
AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU'RE ABLE TO MATCH THE TOWN'S OBLIGATION TO CONSTRUCT OR FUN THOSE MAJOR IMPROVEMENTS WITH LARGE DEVELOPMENT THAT MIGHT BE OCCURRING AT THAT TIME.
YOU HATE FOR DEVELOPMENT TO GO IN HAPPEN AND THEN YOUR ROADS NEED TO BE OVERSIZE AND THEN YOU'RE JUST GOING BACK IN WITH MORE CONSTRUCTION.
IT ALSO LIMITS THE TOWN'S USE OF YOUR OWN GOS AND CEOS.
BULLET POINT 3 AND 4, GO TOGETHER.
YOU ALREADY HAVE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE AND THE TOWN, IT'S AGING.
YOU DO NEED TO USE YOUR GOS AND COS FOR APPROPRIATE ITEMS FROM YOUR EXISTING TAXPAYER BASE.
SO THIS ALLOWS YOUR GO AND CEO REVENUES THAT ARE THERE TODAY TO BE APPROPRIATELY UTILIZE WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPEND THEM IN AN AREA THAT'S RAPIDLY GROWING.
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THEN THAT JUST FOCUS NEW DEVELOPMENT PERFORMANCE WITH THE TIMING OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS.AGAIN, YOU DON'T WANT TO GO OUT THERE AND BUILD A ROAD TO NOWHERE, BUT IF DEVELOPMENT IS COMING AND YOU SEE IT AND YOU'RE ABLE TO GET AHEAD OF IT FROM AN INFRASTRUCTURE STANDPOINT, IT'S OFTENTIMES MUCH MORE EASIER TO BUILD IT ON THE FRONT SIDE AND FINANCE IT EARLIER.
[NOISE] EXCUSE ME. THESE ARE ESTIMATED NON-PROJECT COSTS.
NOW NON-PROJECT COSTS ARE NOT THE COSTS THAT WOULD BE FINANCED BY THE TERMS, BUT THEY ARE INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO BE PAID BY A DEVELOPER OR A LANDOWNER.
IN ORDER TO SEE THE USE OF $380 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE COSTS, SOMEONE ELSE OR SOMEONE ELSE WILL HAVE TO SPEND A LITTLE OVER A BILLION DOLLARS TO DEVELOP THAT ENTIRE AREA.
AGAIN, THESE ARE ESTIMATES IN TODAY'S DOLLARS BASED ON WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE OUT THERE UNDER THOSE ZONING PLANS THAT ARE OUT THERE TODAY.
AGAIN, YOU SEE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAILS, PARKS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT THERE ARE BEING PROPOSED BECAUSE THAT'S AN IMPORTANT COMPONENT.
BUT AGAIN, NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE FINANCED BY THE TIRZ.
THAT WOULD BE PRIVATE DOLLARS NEEDING TO FINANCE THAT.
THIS WAS IN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND I PLAN TO GO THROUGH IT [NOISE] A LITTLE BIT LATER, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THE TERM STARTING ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE TERM OF THE ENTIRE CHARGE IS 30 YEARS.
EARLIER I MENTIONED TIRZ ALLOW OTHER TAXING ENTITIES TO PARTICIPATE.
TYPICALLY, YOUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS DO NOT PARTICIPATE BECAUSE IT GOES AGAINST THEIR STATE FINANCING CALCULATION.
BUT IN THE EVENT THAT THE COUNTY OPTED TO PARTICIPATE AT A 50% INCREMENT, YOU COULD SEE LARGE SUMS OF DOLLARS AVAILABLE TO TAKE CARE OF PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE DESIRABLE.
AGAIN, THESE ARE MAJOR IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS THAT COUNTY WOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE WHICH PROJECTS THEY WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IN OR NOT PARTICIPATE IN.
BUT BEING ABLE TO PUT A PLAN TOGETHER, OFTENTIMES ALLOWS THEM TO SELECT PROJECTS THAT ARE BENEFICIAL TO ALL PARTIES, THE COUNTY AND THE CITY AS WELL.
I HAVE TO ASK JP. THE PROJECT PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO SCROLL THROUGH IT.
>> WHILE HE'S GRABBING THAT, JUST A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT COUNTY PARTICIPATION.
WE TALKED ABOUT, THEY MIGHT CHOOSE CERTAIN PROJECTS TO PARTICIPATE IN.
IF THEY CHOOSE CERTAIN PROJECTS, DO THEY PRORATE THE AMOUNT OF PRODUCTS THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE INTO THE TOTAL COST OF ALL THE PROJECTS TO DETERMINE THE PERCENTAGE THEY'RE GOING TO PARTICIPATE, OR HOW DOES THAT CALCULATION WORK?
USUALLY, A COUNTY WILL HAVE A STANDARD PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.
DENTON COUNTY DOES PARTICIPATE IN SEVERAL TIRZ THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY.
I'VE SEEN A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.
I'VE SEEN THEM SAY WE WILL PARTICIPATE IN ALL THESE TYPES.
WE WERE TO PARTICIPATE IN ROADS, BUT WE WON'T PARTICIPATE IN WATER.
THEY'LL PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THE ROADS THAT ARE LISTED ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO BENEFITING THE COUNTING.
I'VE SEEN OTHER TIMES WHEN THEY WILL SAY, WE'RE PARTICIPATING ONLY IN THIS PROJECT UP TO THIS DOLLAR AMOUNT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE TRACK.
IS THIS PROJECT GETS PAID WHATEVER ITS COSTS ARE AND THERE'S A CAP, AND THEN THAT'S WHEN THEY'RE OUT.
ON A PROJECT THIS BIG, I CAN'T EVEN ANTICIPATE WHAT THEY MIGHT DO, BUT WE ALWAYS WANT TO PRESENT ALL THE PROJECTS AND ALL THE FACTS TO THEM.
>> THERE ARE 19 PAGES, AS SOMEONE REMINDED ME THIS EVENING, BUT WE'LL GO THROUGH THEM RATHER QUICKLY, I HOPE.
THIS SECTION ON DEFINITIONS IS KEY BECAUSE WE USE CAPITALIZED TERMS SO THAT WE REFERENCE BACK TO THIS CONTINUALLY, SO IT'S VERY CLEAR WHAT WE'RE MEANING.
I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH THESE SPECIFICALLY, BUT THEY ARE STANDARD DEFINITIONS TO THE MAJORITY OF CHARGES ACROSS THE STATE OF TEXAS.
THIS IS PAGE 2 OF THE DEFINITIONS.
NOW, THIS IS SECTION 2. THAT'S THE INTRODUCTION.
NOW, SECTION 2 IS BASICALLY A REGURGITATION OF A STATUE.
IT TELLS THE COMMON PERSON THAT'S READING THIS DOCUMENT WHAT THIS DOCUMENT IS SUPPOSED TO ACCOMPLISH AND WHAT'S GOING TO BE OCCURRING IN THE FUTURE.
[NOISE] THE AUTHORITY AND PURPOSE, THE ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS, THE ZONE.
EVEN THE PRELIMINARY PLAN AND HEARING THAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING RIGHT NOW, THOSE ARE ALL ESTABLISHED BY STATUTE ABOUT HOW THEY OCCUR AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THEM.
THE CREATION OF THE ZONE JUST INDICATES WHAT WOULD HAPPEN GOING FORWARD IF THE ZONE WAS TO BE CREATED AND WHAT COMPONENTS WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE CREATION ORDINANCE,
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AND THEN HOW THE TIRZ BOARD WITH INTERFACE WITH THE TIRZ PLANS AND THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THAT PLAN.AT THIS JUNCTURE, THAT'S SECTIONS 1 AND 2 DEFINITIONS AND THE INTRODUCTION.
ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? MY HOPE IS JUST TO CLARIFY ALL OF THIS AND THEN WE CAN GET INTO ANYTHING ELSE FURTHER.
DESCRIPTIONS AND MAP STATUTE REQUIRES THAT YOU SHOW THE LOCATION OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.
WHILE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE VERY CLEAR, WE FOLLOW UP WITH INFORMATION JUST SAYING WHETHER IT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS OR OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS, JUST INFORMATION FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
THE PROPOSED USES IS ALSO STATUTORILY REQUIRED.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T EVER CHANGE YOUR PROPOSED USED, IS JUST AT THE TIME OF CREATION WHAT WERE THE PROPOSED USES.
AS YOU'LL SEE IN THE NEXT SECTION, IT'S ASKING IF ANY OF THOSE PROPOSED USES WOULD CHANGE.
SOMETIMES TIRZ ARE CREATED WITH THE INTENT TO IMMEDIATELY CHANGE THE USE AND THEY WILL RUN SIMULTANEOUSLY, AND YOU JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT INFORMATION TODAY, BUT AGAIN, WHERE SOMEONE A LANDOWNER WITHIN THE DISTRICT ARE IN THE ZONE WANTING TO MAKE A ZONE CHANGE, IT WOULD STILL GO THROUGH THE TOWN'S NORMAL ZONING PROCESS AND ADHERE TO ALL THE NORMAL ZONING REQUIREMENTS.
THIS DOESN'T CHANGE ANY OF THAT PROCESS.
RELOCATION OF DISPLACED PERSONS.
WE'RE REQUIRED TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DISPLACING ANY INDIVIDUALS, AND SO THAT'S NOT OCCURRING HERE, SO IT'S A VERY SHORT STATEMENT.
NOW, THE PROPOSED PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS, YOU HAVE THE CATEGORIES LISTED IN THE CHART.
THE CHART THAT WAS ACTUALLY IN THE POWERPOINT PRESENTATION SHOWS US AN EXHIBIT IN THIS PLAN.
NOW WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS YOU THIS IS A ROAD AND OUR CHART.
THIS SHOWS YOU THIS IS THE TOTAL OF THE ROADS.
THE CITY'S CIP PLAN IS VERY SPECIFIC WHETHER IT'S CONTEMPLATED, IT'D BE FOUR LANES OR SIX LANES WITH THE MEDIAN.
THAT'S EMBEDDED IN THE CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLANS ARE READY.
IT'S NOT IN THIS INFORMATION HERE.
THIS IS JUST GENERAL LOCATION AND TYPE, AND THAT'S ALL THAT'S REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE.
THE ESTIMATED PROJECT COSTS ARE VERY LARGE.
THOSE ARE ALSO INCLUDED STATUTORILY.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE AMOUNTS CAN NOT GO OVER IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES, AND SO WHO ARE WE TO SEE OVER THE COURSE OF 30 YEARS AT THAT 380 WAS REALLY 500? IF THE DOLLAR WERE GENERATED, IF THE COUNCIL APPROVED IT, THEN THAT POTENTIALLY COULD BE TO REIMBURSE ALL THE ACTUAL COSTS.
EVEN THOSE ACTUAL COSTS ARE MORE THAN WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED.
ESTIMATED TIMELINE. AGAIN, WE'RE NOT EXACTLY SURE WHEN THAT WOULD OCCUR, SO WE'VE MADE SOME BEST-CASE ESTIMATES IN THIS PRELIMINARY PLAN THAT'S TYPICAL AND NORMAL, AND SO AT THE VERY END, YOU'LL SEE ME GO THROUGH A TIMELINE.
THAT FINAL PLAN, IT GETS ADOPTED.
PROBABLY WON'T GET ADOPTED, AND SO WE HAVE SOME FIRMER INFORMATION ABOUT DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THIS CREATION PUTS IN PLACE THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO BEGIN PLANNING AND STAFF TO BEGIN PLANNING ON, AS DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO FINANCE THESE LARGE, SIGNIFICANT PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE? SO FAR, OUR SECTIONS 1- 7.
THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS ALSO REQUIRED BY THE STATUTE.
THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS NOT A ROAD MAP THAT SAYS, OKAY, IN YEAR 5, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO GO COMPARE IT BACK TO YEAR 5 OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THE FEASIBILITY STUDY IS TO ACTUALLY PUT ON PAPER ALL OF THE YEARS, ALL OF THE COSTS, AND ALL THE CONTEMPLATED DEVELOPMENT.
OFTENTIMES YOU WILL HAVE DEVELOPMENT EXCEED COSTS.
OFTENTIMES YOU WILL HAVE COSTS EXCEED DEVELOPMENT.
IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW CLEAR OUR CRYSTAL BALL IS, SO TO SPEAK.
AT THIS JUNCTURE, WE HAVE COSTS THAT IS AN EXCESS OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THOSE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE ELIGIBLE TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH IMPACT FEES, AND SO YOU SEE A MIRRORING OF SEVERAL DIFFERENT TYPES OF STATUTES 395, 311, WHERE YOU'RE ABLE TO FUND THOSE PIECES OF INFRASTRUCTURE.
THIS FINDING IN SECTION 8 IS JUST TO DESCRIBE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THAT LARGE CHART I SHOWED YOU EARLIER.
AT THE END OF THE TERM, 100% OF THE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE MOST LIKELY DEDICATED TO THE CITY AT THE END OF THE TERM.
THE TAXING ENTITIES THAT WERE PARTICIPATING, THEY WOULD RECEIVE THEIR FUNDING AND YEAR 31.
IF IT TERMINATED IN YEAR 30, THEIR FUNDS WOULD RETURN BACK TO THEIR GENERAL FUND SUBJECT TO ALL THE OTHER LEGISLATIVE CHANGES THAT MAY OR MAY NOT COME DURING 30 YEARS.
SECTION 9 AND 10, ESTIMATED BONDED INDEBTEDNESS.
THERE ARE SOME TIMES DURING THE COURSE OF TIRZ THAT A CITY WILL SAY, OKAY, WE NEED TO ISSUE BONDS.
WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CHARGE REVENUES, WE WILL ISSUE BONDS.
THEY WILL UPDATE THEIR PLAN [NOISE] AT THIS JUNCTURE, NO BOND INDEBTEDNESS IS CONTEMPLATED.
AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULDN'T HAVE
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ANY MORE CLARITY ON TIMING OF DEVELOPMENT SPECIFICALLY.SECTION 10, THE APPRAISED VALUE.
IF YOU REMEMBER IN OUR EARLIER EDUCATION SESSIONS, YOUR BASE IS ESTABLISHED.
WHATEVER IS THERE TODAY THAT IS FLOWING INTO THE GENERAL FUND WILL CONTINUE TO FLOW OVER THE NEXT 30 YEARS TO THE GENERAL FUND.
THAT BASE VALUE DOES NOT DECREASE UNLESS THE COUNTY COMES IN AND SAYS, OKAY, WE HAD A PROTEST AND THERE WAS AN ADJUSTMENT, AND SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A LOWER BASE.
BUT GENERALLY, THAT'S THE AMOUNT OF THE BASE THAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.
[NOISE] THE ESTIMATED CAPTURED APPRAISED VALUE IS THE AMOUNT OF THE INCREMENT THAT WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE TOWN'S GENERAL FUND AND THE TERSE FUND.
UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT INCREMENT BASE [INAUDIBLE] THE GENERAL FUNDS, SO THAT'S 10.1, AND THEN 10.2 IS THE AMOUNT THAT WOULD BE CAPTURED IN NEW VALUE, THAT WOULD BE SPLIT BETWEEN THE GENERAL FUND AND THE TIRZ FUND.
ONLY THE TIRZ FUND WOULD BE DEDICATED TO PAYING FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE WE'RE CONTEMPLATING HERE.
THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS WILL STILL BE USED FOR ALL THE PURPOSES THAT ARE ESTABLISHED ANNUALLY IN THE BUDGET PROCESS. METHOD OF FINANCING.
[NOISE] METHOD OF FINANCING RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CONTEMPLATING ANY BONDS, IS WE'RE GOING TO PUT IT INTO THE TOURISTS FUND.
AS THE DOLLARS ARE GENERATED AND AS WE SEE THE ANTICIPATED NEED FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, IF THE DOLLARS ARE AVAILABLE AND WE'RE ABLE TO USE IT TO CONSTRUCT OR TO REIMBURSE, THOSE FUNDS WILL BE AVAILABLE.
GOING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE, IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRED AND IF STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT THERE WERE SOME TYPE OF BOND INDEBTEDNESS, THIS WOULD BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THAT, BUT AT THIS TIME, THAT'S NOT CONTEMPLATED.
THERE ARE EXAMPLES INCLUDED IN HERE BECAUSE IT'S SOMETIMES COMPLICATED ABOUT, WHAT ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THE INCREMENT AND THE AD VALOREM TAX REVENUE.
WE HAVE EXAMPLES WHERE IT SAYS, IF THE CITY'S RATE IS X, THIS PERCENTAGE WILL GO INTO THE TOURISTS FUND.
NOW, THAT NUMBER IS NOT LOCKED IN PLACE.
IN THE FUTURE, IF THE COUNCIL RAISED OR LOWERED THEIR TAXES, THAT PERCENTAGE WILL STAY THE SAME.
THE PENNIES THAT ARE PROPORTIONATE TO THAT PERCENTAGE WOULD FOLLOW WHERE THE PREVIOUS PENNIES HAD FOLLOWED, SAME WITH THE COUNTY IF THEY ELECT TO PARTICIPATE.
THIS IS ALSO A METHOD OF FINANCING, JUST A FINDING SAYING THAT THE TOURISTS FUND, IT'S CONTEMPLATED, IT'S GOING TO BE THE ONLY SOURCE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE OTHER DOLLARS, GENERAL FUND, GOCOS, BUT THAT DOESN'T PRECLUDE THAT FROM BEING ONE OF YOUR BUDGET ANNUAL DECISIONS EACH YEAR.
YOU CAN ALWAYS HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY IN THE FUTURE.
>> MARY, THE FIRST SENTENCE OF THE LAST PARAGRAPH, THE LAST PART, GOVERNING BODY, CAN YOU DEFINE WHAT THAT IS? IS THAT THE TOURIST BOARD OR IS THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL?
I THINK I KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS, IT'S THE FIRST SENTENCE.
IT'S THE RESPECTIVE GOVERNING BODIES BECAUSE IT MAKES REFERENCE TO THE TOWN AND THE COUNTY.
IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS AND IT WOULD BE THE TOWN COUNCIL.
>> NOT JUST THE TOURIST BOARD?
>> CORRECT. THE TOURIST BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT THE CARRYING OUT OF THE FINAL PLAN.
THERE ARE RECOMMENDING BOARD FROM THE STANDPOINT AND MAKING CHANGES TO THE FINAL PLAN.
THE CITY COUNCIL IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN CHANGE THE FINAL PLAN.
IF YOU CHANGE THE FINAL PLAN, IT MAY BE SUBJECT TO PROVISIONS IN YOUR PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT.
IN THE EVENT THE COUNTY PARTICIPATED, THAT MIGHT WARRANT CHANGES IN YOUR PARTICIPATION AGREEMENTS, SO JUST KNOW THOSE GO TOGETHER.
DURATION OF THE ZONE, AGAIN, THE STATUTE REQUIRES THAT YOU MAKE NOTE OF WHAT THE DURATION IS, AS WELL AS WHAT THE TERMINATION IS.
IT IS A EARLIER OF A CAT BEING MET OR A DATE BEING VISITED.
THOSE ARE FINALIZED AS YOU MOVE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
RIGHT NOW, THAT'S GOING TO BE 30 YEARS WITH THE LAST PAYMENT BEING MADE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE DOLLARS WOULD BE.
IF WE ARBITRARILY KEPT IT AND WE HAVE FIVE YEARS OF SLOW GROWTH, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT IS.
RIGHT NOW, IT'S JUST THE TERMINATION AT A DATE SPECIFIC.
THESE ARE THE LIST OF EXHIBITS, BUT A COUPLE OF THINGS JUST TO REMIND YOU OF THAT CAME FROM OUR EDUCATION PIECE.
JUST BECAUSE YOU CREATE THE TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONE DOES NOT MEAN IT HAS AN OBLIGATION AGAINST IT.
THERE ARE NO OBLIGATIONS AGAINST THAT TOURISTS FUND, UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU INCUR THAT OBLIGATION.
IF YOU WENT OUT AND SAID, WE'RE GOING TO ISSUE TOURIST BONDS AND WE'RE DEDICATING THAT REVENUE STREAM, THEN YOU'VE CREATED AN OBLIGATION AGAINST THE TOURISTS FUND.
YOUR TOURISTS FUND MAY SIT THERE, GATHERING MONEY,
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WAITING FOR DEVELOPMENT OR A LARGE PROJECT TO COME ALONG AND MAYBE AVAILABLE TO BE DEPLOYED IN THE FUTURE WITHOUT HAVING AN OBLIGATION AGAINST IT.AGAIN, THESE ARE THE MAPS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY SHOWED IN THE SLIDES.
I'M GOING TO GO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PFP? I HAVE TO START OVER. I'M SORRY.
JUST AS A REVIEW, THE NEXT STEPS, YOU'VE COMPLETED THE RESOLUTION TO CALL A PUBLIC HEARING.
REMEMBER THESE MAPS AND THOSE PRELIMINARY PLAN WERE ATTACHED TO THAT AND HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE FOR INSPECTION POSTED ON WEBSITES AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
ON THE NOVEMBER 6TH AGENDA, YOU HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SINCE YOU'VE ALREADY CALLED IT, IT WILL BE ON THE AGENDA.
ONCE YOU HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING, PEOPLE CAN SHOW UP AND THEY STATUTE IS VERY CLEAR.
THEY CAN SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES.
THEY CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT, OR THEY CAN SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST A PIECE OF PROPERTY BEING IN OR OUT OF THE ZONE.
IT'S ONE OF THE MORE BROAD PUBLIC HEARINGS IN WHICH THEY CAN SPEAK ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT ITEMS TIED TO TAX INCREMENT REINVESTMENT ZONES UNDER 311.
AFTER THAT POINT, IF THE COUNCIL SO DESIRES, THEN THE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR YOU TO CONSIDER THE CREATION, THAT WOULD BE AN AGENDA ITEM.
THEN AT A DATE IN THE FUTURE, A FINAL PLAN WOULD BE PREPARED AND WOULD BE BROUGHT BEFORE YOU TO CONSIDER.
NOW, ONCE YOU HAVE THAT FINAL PLAN, EVEN ONCE THAT FINAL PLAN'S ADOPTED, YOU STILL DON'T HAVE ANY OBLIGATIONS AGAINST THE ZONE.
YOU DON'T HAVE AN OBLIGATION AGAINST THE ZONE UNTIL YOU HAVE A TARGET AGREEMENT OBLIGATING REVENUES TO SOME FUNDING MECHANISM OR DEBT INSTRUMENT.
>> THE 50% TOURIST VERSUS 50% OF THE GENERAL FUND, IS THAT DETERMINED BY THIS PLAN THAT WILL BE CONSIDERED ON 11/6, OR IS THAT PART OF AN AGREEMENT ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY?
THE 50% WILL BE ESTABLISHED IN THE CREATION ORDINANCE.
HOWEVER, THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO REMAIN IF THERE ARE NO OBLIGATIONS.
FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COUNCIL SAYS WE'RE GOING TO PUT 50% OF OUR INCREMENT INTO THE TOURISTS FUND, AND THEN A DEVELOPER COMES ALONG AND SAYS, "I'M GOING TO BUILD THIS PORTION OF THE MAJOR WATER LINE," AND THE TOWN SAYS, THAT'S GREAT, IMPACT FEES ARE GOING TO COVER 50% OF THAT OR, LET ME PICK A DIFFERENT NUMBER, 30% OF THAT, THEN THE REMAINING 70% COULD POTENTIALLY BE ELIGIBLE TO BE REIMBURSED DOLLAR-WISE OUT OF THE TOURISTS FUND.
WELL, THAT MAY ONLY BE 10% OF THE 50 THAT IS BEING DEDICATED FROM THAT PROPERTY IN THERE.
WHILE THE PLAN SAYS 50% OF THE INCREMENT GOES INTO THE TOURISTS FUND, EACH INDIVIDUAL TOURIST AGREEMENT THAT THE COUNCIL ENTERS INTO CAN BE TAILORED SPECIFICALLY FOR WHATEVER THE PROJECT IS AND FOR WHATEVER THE COSTS ARE.
YOU MIGHT HAVE A TOURIST AGREEMENT THAT'S ONLY 10% AND KEPT AT $20,000, AND IT'S A ONE AND DONE AND IT'S PAID OFF VERY QUICKLY.
>> BUT AN AGREEMENT WITH AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY OWNER COULD NOT EXCEED THAT 50% WITHOUT CHANGING THE PARAMETERS OF THE TOURIST ITSELF?
>> BUT IT CAN GO UNDER BUT NOT TO EXCEED?
>> YES, SIR, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T HAVE THE REVENUES AVAILABLE.
THEREFORE, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SOMEHOW FIND A VEHICLE TO GET DOLLARS OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND AND YOU DON'T.
>> I HAVE ONE. CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE COUNTY? I TRIED TO LOOK AT ALL THIS BEFORE THIS EVENING AND I STILL COULDN'T.
THE COUNTIES PARTICIPATING, SORT OF ADAM'S QUESTION, AT 50%, THEN THAT'S A NOT TO EXCEED SO THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE AT MORE THAN 50%.
IF THEY WEREN'T PARTICIPATING AT ALL, IF THEY WERE PARTICIPATING IN A LOWER PERCENTAGE, SO WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS IF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES AT 50%, THAT PERCENTAGE OF TAX, HALF OF THAT IN THE DOLLAR VALUE IS GOING TO STAY IN THE AREA AND BE USED IN THAT AREA AND NOT SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COUNTY.
IF THERE WAS NO PARTICIPATION, THEY WOULD STILL BE GETTING THE TAX REVENUE.
>> BUT THEN THEY COULD THEN GO USE IT ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY.
THIS IS ACTUALLY COMMITTING THEM TO USING HALF OF THAT COUNTY AD VALOREM TAX IN FOR AMOUNT IN THAT AREA.
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>> CORRECT. IF YOU GO BACK TO OUR EDUCATION PROCESS, WHOEVER AGREES TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ZOOM WITH THEIR INCREMENT, THEIR DOLLAR FLOWS UNDER THE TOURISTS FUND.
THEN THOSE PROJECTS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED, WHETHER YOU ESTABLISH THEM AND THEY AGREE IN A PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, IT HAS TO BE FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE ZONE.
>> I WAS WONDERING TO MAKE SURE.
>> YOU HAD MENTIONED ALSO, THAT LANDOWNERS ARE DEVELOPERS USING THIS MONEY TO PAY FOR SOME OF THAT.
NOT THEIR ELEVATION, BUT OUR REQUIREMENTS YET FOR A WATER LINE AS AN EXAMPLE, BUT WE CAN ALSO USE IT FOR TOWN FACILITIES AS WELL, SUCH AS FIRE STATIONS.
ANOTHER CAC IS OTHER TYPES OF TALENT OWN PLACES. IS THAT CORRECT?
>> CORRECT. LET ME GET BACK TO THIS.
YOU'LL SEE ON LINE ITEM IN THERE FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES, THAT STATUTE DOES ALLOW THE INCREMENT TO BE USED FOR MUNICIPAL SERVICES THAT BENEFIT THAT ZONE.
THIS IS SUCH A LARGE BOUNDARY.
IT'S VERY FEASIBLE TO SAY WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MUNICIPAL SERVICES THAT 99.9% BENEFIT THE ZONE.
THAT'S A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION.
WE RUN INTO TROUBLE IF YOU HAVE A LITTLE 50-ACRE PARCEL AND YOU TRY TO SAY, MY FIRE STATION ALL BENEFITS THE ZONE, AND IT'S ONLY PAYING FOR IT.
BUT BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH A LARGE BOUNDARY AND YOU HAVE SUCH A DIVERSE USER, FROM 35 HIGHWAY COMMERCIAL DELIGHT, INDUSTRIAL TO RESIDENTIAL, YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO REALIZE MUNICIPAL SERVICE EXPENDITURES BEING ELIGIBLE.
>> WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT SLIDE, MARY, LOOKING AT THE 24 MILLION FOR PUBLIC FACILITIES, THAT SEEMS REALLY LOW.
>> I THINK. THE PUBLIC FACILITIES.
I'LL HAVE TO DEFER TO STAFF ON THOSE SPECIFIC NUMBERS.
>> THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCLUSIVE, I BELIEVE, OF TWO FIRE STATIONS IN PARTICULAR.
WHEN A FINAL FINANCE PLAN IS DEVELOPED, THAT'S AT THAT POINT WHEN WE WOULD ADD CONCEIVABLY A COMMUNITY ACTIVITY CENTER AS WELL AS AN ATHLETIC COMPLEX.
THOSE COSTS THAT WILL BE ADDED TO THE FINAL PROJECT PLAN. WANTS A SETUP
>> HOW DOES THAT CHANGE? HOW WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE THEIR PERCENTAGE OF CONTRIBUTION JUST AS THE PROJECT COMES UP.
THE CHAIRS BOARD WOULD THEN DECIDE WHAT PERCENT OF THE 50% COULD BE REALLOCATED TOWARD ADDITIONAL PUBLIC FACILITIES?
>> BUT THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
THIS IS WHERE THE REALLY FUN PART COMES IN.
THE ACCOUNTING AND THE KEEPING UP.
TO COUNCIL MEMBERS EXAMPLE OF YOU WOULDN'T GIVE THE DEVELOPER ALL THE 50% NECESSARILY.
YOU COULD POTENTIALLY USE 10% TO REIMBURSE A LANDOWNER FOR BUILDING A CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COMPONENT.
THAT WAS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY.
WELL, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES PLUS THE COUNTIES ARE STILL GOING INTO THE TOURS FUN.
YOU HAVE 40% OF THE TOWN'S INCREMENT PLUS THE COUNTIES 50%.
AND IF IT WASN'T ELIGIBLE COMPONENT UNDER THE COUNTIES PARTICIPATION AGREEMENT, THOSE REMAINING DOLLARS COULD BE PART OF THE POT THAT'S CAPTURED TO BUILD PUBLIC FACILITIES.
BUT YOU ARE CORRECT AS THE DOLLARS COME IN AND AS STAFF AND COUNSEL ARE ABLE TO SEE THE TIMELINE UNDER WHICH WE HAVE A FIRE STATION NEED OR WE HAVE A DIFFERENT TYPE OF MUNICIPAL SERVICES NEED, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR REVENUES COMING IN AND KNOW HOW TO MATCH THOSE ITEMS UP.
WE NEED TO SPEND THE MONEY TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE, VERSUS WE NEED HER TO BE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT LONG-TERM.
>> OVER THE 30-YEAR LIFE OF THIS PROJECTED TOURS ARE THEIR NORMAL INCREMENTS OF TIME WHERE A TRUE-UP IS REQUIRED.
>> GREAT QUESTION. THE ONLY TIME A TRUE-UP IS REQUIRED, AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE WE'RE DOING TRUE-UPS ON EVERY TOURS AGREEMENT.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS YOU WANT TO BE EVALUATING THOSE AGREEMENTS.
YOU DON'T JUST ENTER INTO A TOURS AGREEMENT AND THEN WRITE A BLANK CHECK.
YOU ENTER INTO A TERTIARY AGREEMENT, AND THEN THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY HAS TO SUBMIT EVIDENCE THAT A THEY CONSTRUCTED IT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE TOWN STANDARDS.
THE TOWN, EXCEPT THAT IT IS IN CONFORMANCE.
THEN THE ACTUAL INVOICES SUPPORT THAT THOSE WERE THE DOLLARS ALWAYS, THOSE CONSTRUCTION PLANS ARE SIGNED OFF BY THE TOWN ENGINEER.
THEY'RE REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF.
THEY MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN COMPLIANCE.
THEN, ONCE THEY HAVE SUBMITTED THOSE COSTS, THEN THAT TURNS AGREEMENT IS UPDATED TO SAY, OKAY, HERE WAS THE TOTAL AMOUNT.
HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE.
THEN, DEPENDING ON WHO'S DOING THE TOURS ADMINISTRATION, IT'S LIKE AN ACCOUNTING OF HERE'S THE PRINCIPAL AMOUNT OF OUR PORTION OF COST THAT YOU FINANCED, AND WE'RE GOING TO REIMBURSE YOU AS YOUR PROJECT DEVELOPS, AND YOU GENERATE THAT INCREMENT FOR THOSE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS.
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>> THAT ACTIVITY WOULD BE COVERED UNDER THE ADMINISTRATIVE COSTS?
>> ANYONE ELSE? JUST THINKING THIS THROUGH.
TOURISTS PROMOTING DEVELOPMENT, UTILIZING FUTURE TAX REVENUE TO PROMOTE THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOING THROUGH OUR NORMAL PROCESS OF IMPACT FEES AND THEN UTILIZING 3D AGREEMENTS IN SPECIFIC AREAS TO GET THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WE WANT.
>> SO 380 AGREEMENTS ARE APPROPRIATED ANNUALLY.
THEY HAVE TO BE PART OF YOUR BUDGET PROCESS.
THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION FOR REPAYMENT THAT A TARGET AGREEMENT HAS.
IT TURNS AGREEMENT CREATES THAT OBLIGATION THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP OR CONSTRUCTS A PIECE OF INFRASTRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE SAID THIS IS OUR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT COMPONENT.
YOU CAN USE PORTIONS OF YOUR IMPACT FEES, BUT MOST OFTEN, IMPACT FEES CAN'T COVER 100% OF THE COST.
NUMBER ONE, NUMBER TWO, OFTENTIMES AS BEING OVERSIZED.
WHAT THEY'RE CONSTRUCTING VERSUS WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO GENERATE AN IMPACT FEES JUST DOESN'T PROVIDE THE AVAILABILITY FOR REIMBURSEMENT.
THAT TOURISTS AGREEMENT BECOMES THAT CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OF THE TOURS FUN TO REIMBURSE THEM.
IT'S MUCH FROM THEIR SEAT AT THE TABLE.
IT'S A MUCH MORE SECURE DOCUMENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATED ANNUALLY.
IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT IF THEIR REVENUES ARE COMING INTO THE TRUST FUND, THEY'RE BEING REIMBURSED FOR THOSE.
THAT WOULD BE NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, THE TOWN ALWAYS HAS THE ABILITY TO ISSUE GOS AND CEOS TO FINANCE INFRASTRUCTURE LIKE THE ONES BEING PROPOSED IN THE MAPS.
THE CHALLENGE IS THERE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE GEO AND CEO LAWS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF WHAT YOU CAN SPEND IT ON, AND WHAT YOU CAN'T SPEND IT ON.
THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS JUST TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL OF THE COSTS AND THE TIME IT TAKES.
SADLY, MUNICIPALITIES USUALLY SPEND MORE, AND IT TAKES LONGER TO BUILD INFRASTRUCTURE COMPONENTS.
WHEREAS IF A DEVELOPER IS BUILDING IT AS PART OF THEIR OWN DEVELOPMENT, THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE LINE YOU NEED TO PUT IN.
WELL, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THE LAND TORN UP AT ALREADY DOVETAIL NICELY WITH THEIR CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND SO IT'S A MUCH FASTER PROCESS.
ON THE WHOLE, THE HOPE WOULD BE IT'S FASTER FROM A CONSTRUCTABILITY STANDPOINT, WHICH MEANS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE MORE EFFICIENT FROM A FINANCING STANDPOINT.
>> ANYONE ELSE? WELL, THANK YOU, MS. BETTY.
APPRECIATE THAT. STEPHANIE, ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR THINGS ON ITEM ONE?
>> NO, SIR. OBVIOUSLY, IN THE RUN-UP TO NOVEMBER 6, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE SHOOT THEM OUR WAY.
WE'LL CONTINUE TO USE OUR COM CHANNELS TO JUST REMIND PEOPLE THAT THIS IS COMING UP AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO ENGAGE AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO SHARE THOSE ON THE SIX.
BUT UNTIL THEN, JUST LET US KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR NEED ANY ADDITIONAL FOLLOW-UP.
>> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL. WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM E TO THE DISCUSSION OF PUBLIC SCHOOL CRITERIA FOR THE TOWN SMART GROWTH PROGRAM.
LEADING US OFF ON THIS ITEM WILL BE MS. JACKSON MURPHY.
>> THANK YOU MAYOR AND COUNCIL.
I BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT COUNCIL MEMBER DREW HAD ASKED ABOUT.
I WANTED TO DISCUSS MORE HOW THE TOWN HANDLED COMPLEXITY ANALYSIS FOR SCHOOLS IN RELATION TO OUR SMARTGROWTH CRITERIA.
WHAT I PUT HERE IS WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE TOWNS ORDINANCE, SMARTGROWTH ORDINANCE.
IT DOES REQUIRE THAT THE TOWN NOTIFY IN WRITING AND REQUEST CONFIRMATION OF THE NOTIFICATION FROM ANY SCHOOL DISTRICT THAT'S IMPACTED BY A PROJECT.
THE TOWN WILL ASSIST THE PUBLIC SCHOOL DISTRICT IN ADDRESSING ANY PROGRAM CAPACITY ISSUES RELATIVE TO ANY TOWN INFRASTRUCTURE SERVING ALL SCHOOLS.
THE PURPOSE IS TO ENSURE THAT ADEQUATE TOWN FACILITIES AND INFRASTRUCTURE EXIST TO PROVIDE EXISTING AND FUTURE STUDENT POPULATIONS.
THIS APPLIES FOR ANY RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.
IT'S APPLICABLE TO MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT, ZONING AMENDMENTS, DEVELOPMENT PLANS, AND RECORD PLANS, IT DOESN'T APPLY TO NON-RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS.
WHENEVER THESE COME IN, WE ALWAYS NOTIFY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
WE LET THEM KNOW ABOUT THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
WE INVITE THEM TO GIVE US FEEDBACK AND PROVIDE OUR CONTACT INFORMATION, THE PROJECT MANAGER.
WE DO NOT TYPICALLY RECEIVE ANY FEEDBACK FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE DID PREVIOUSLY USE TO GATHER SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT PROJECTS,
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AND THIS WAS THE INFORMATION THAT WAS GATHERED.THEN WE HAD A SEPARATE WORKSHEET THAT THE TOWN USE TO DO AN ANALYSIS AND DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS THE CAPACITY AVAILABLE.
I THINK THAT CHANGED AROUND 2012.
THERE WAS A CONCERN BASED ON A PROJECT THAT CAME UP, AND THE ANALYSIS WAS, WELL, THE TOWN CAN'T REALLY MAKE A DECISION FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO PROVIDE FOR THIS PROJECT AND BECAUSE OF THE WAY THAT SMARTGROWTH IS SET UP WITH A PASS-FAIL THING WHERE WE DON'T EVEN LET A PROJECT GO FORWARD TO ASK FOR APPROVAL IF THEY FAIL SMARTGROWTH.
THAT WAS WHERE THE CONCERN CAME IN, THAT IF THE TOWN WAS DECIDING ON OUR OWN THAT THE SCHOOL DIDN'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO MEET THIS NEED AND THEN WOULD NOT EVEN LET THE PROJECT GO FORWARD TO REQUEST APPROVAL, THEN IT CREATED A POTENTIAL CONCERN THERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW, THIS IS PERHAPS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, AGAIN REQUEST FROM APPLICANTS FOR THEM TO PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION SO THAT WE COULD GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT WHEN WE DO THAT OUTREACH, TO ASSIST THEM WITH THEIR CAPACITY ANALYSIS.
THAT WAS JUST ONE THOUGHT THAT I HAD, BUT I'M OPEN TO THE COUNCIL SUGGESTIONS.
[INAUDIBLE] QUESTION. WHEN WE PROVIDE THEM NOTIFICATION THAT WE'VE GOT A PROJECT THAT'S WE'RE GOING TO REVIEW AND SO FORTH, NOT PROVIDE THEM A NOTIFICATION.
IN ADDITION TO THE OTHER INFORMATION AS FAR AS NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS, ET CETERA, THAT'S PROJECTED.
DO WE PROVIDE THEM WITH A PROJECTED AD VALOREM TAX AMOUNT AT ALL? SO I MEAN, WE'RE TELLING THEM WE'RE GOING TO ADD 100 HOMES OR 500 HOMES TO A PARTICULAR SCHOOL DISTRICT.
DO WE ALSO TELL THEM THAT THIS IS PROJECTED TO INCREASE YOUR TAX ROLLS BY X MILLIONS OF DOLLARS? NO. BECAUSE THE PLANNING STAFF WOULD NOT, WE DO NOT CALCULATE WHAT THE EXPECTED.
I WAS JUST THINKING THAT IF WE'RE PROVIDING THE NOTIFICATION, IT MAY TAKE SOME OF THE STING IF YOU WILL, FROM A SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PERSPECTIVE OUT OF IT.
IF THEY KNEW THAT, HEY, THERE'S SOME BENEFIT IN THE LONG RUN ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL, SKY WASN'T COMPLETELY FALLING.
I THINK IF THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WANTED TO DO, IT WOULD AGAIN, WE WOULD NEED TO ASK THE APPLICANT TO PROVIDE THEIR ANALYSIS OF THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANT STAFF TO ESTIMATE WHAT WE THINK THE AD VALOREM TAXES? UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY.
IF WE NEVER HEAR BACK FROM THEM OR HARDLY EVER HEAR BACK FROM THEM, I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE EXPERIENCING MUCH OF THE STING.
USUALLY IF SOMEONE FEELS A STING, THEY'RE GOING TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
I AM IN FAVOR OF INFORMATION SHARING, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND AND RESPECT THE CONCERNS WITH US MAKING A DETERMINATION ON THEIR BEHALF.
AS LONG AS WE CONTINUE TO SHARE THIS INFORMATION AS IT'S AVAILABLE, AS PROVIDED, CERTAINLY, I'M OKAY WITH GOING FORWARD LIKE THIS.
I WOULD LIKE US TO PERHAPS HAVE A COMMUNICATION TO SEND TO OUR SCHOOL DISTRICTS JUST EXPLAINING THE NEW PROCESS AND HOW WE'LL HANDLE IT AND LET THEM KNOW.
WAXEN WHEN WE SEND THIS INFORMATION OVER, WHO DOES IT GO TO? WE HAVE SPECIFIC CONTACT PEOPLE THAT WERE DESIGNATED BY EACH SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THEY IDENTIFY WHO RECEIVES THOSE AND THEY DO WHENEVER SOMEONE CHANGES POSITION OR WHATEVER THEY'LL NOTIFY US OF THIS IS THE NEW CONTACT PERSON THAT SHOULD BE RECEIVING THIS INFORMATION.
I DO THINK THEY ARE AWARE OF IT.
LIKE I SAID, THEY DON'T NORMALLY RESPOND BACK, BUT LIKE I SAID, THEY DO KEEP US ABREAST OF [INAUDIBLE] LIKE POSITION CHANGES OR THAT SORT OF THING.
I DON'T THINK IT'S AS BEING DISREGARDED.
IS THERE ANY ISSUE WITH EXPANDING THE GROUP THAT WE SEND IT TO? CAN WE SEND IT TO THEIR BOARD OF TRUSTEES OR SUPERINTENDENT? WE SEND IT AS AN EMAIL.
WE CAN SEND THAT EMAIL TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS THEY WANT TO PROVIDE US CONTACT INFORMATION FOR.
I HAVEN'T LOOKED, SO I DON'T KNOW IF ALL OF THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE OR THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO US, BUT WE CAN CHECK ON THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO EXPAND THE LIST AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD IS AWARE OF WHAT'S COMING.
THAT WAY THEY CAN HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THAT DISCUSSION.
HAS THE BOARD REACHED OUT TO STAFF AND ASKED? I MISSED THE BACKGROUND ON IT, BUT WE'RE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE THE INFORMATION AND I'M NOT SAYING WE SHOULDN'T JUST RANDOMLY SEND MORE EMAILS TO PEOPLE, BUT WE MIGHT WANT TO DOUBLE-CHECK AND SEE IF THEY'RE GETTING THE INFORMATION OR ARE THEY'RE NOT.
THEN CHECK WITH EACH SCHOOL BOARD.
YEAH. VERY DIFFERENT FROM LSD TO DIST TO ISD.
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WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, WE HAVE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.BUT I GUESS WE CAN MAYBE ASK THEM OR SOMETHING.
MAYBE I'M MISSING IT. I DON'T UNDERSTAND IT.
ARE WE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH THEM ENOUGH? PROBLEM THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
I HAVE AN ANSWER. I GET THAT THE PASS-FAIL IS NOT TENABLE, BUT I THINK TAKING AWAY THE CALCULATION PORTION OF IT WAS A MISTAKE BECAUSE I FEEL WE'RE BLIND.
WHAT PEOPLE HAVE TOLD ME THEY DON'T WANT IS THEIR KIDS EDUCATED IN TEMPORARY PORTABLE FACILITIES.
WE DON'T ALLOW ANY PORTABLE FACILITIES AT ALL. IS THAT CORRECT? FLOWER MOUND.
IN FLOWER MOUND. UNLESS THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A PERMIT IN PROCESS TO BUILD AN EXPANSION OR SOMETHING, THEN YOU CAN USE PORTABLES WHILE YOU ARE BUILDING ANOTHER BUILDING.
BUT YOU CAN'T JUST DO PORTABLES.
I THINK WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS I WANT THE CALCULATION TO SIMPLY TELL US, DO WE HAVE THE PERMANENT FACILITIES TO EDUCATE THESE CHILDREN? IF WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF US, THAT WOULD HELP.
BUT ISN'T THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S RESPONSE? THAT IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROVIDE THOSE FACILITIES, BUT IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS PART OF THE ZONING APPROVAL PROCESS TO DETERMINE IF THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE, YES, BRIAN.
WE CAN CONSIDER SCHOOL OVERCROWDING AS A FACTOR IN ZONING.
WE CAN CONSIDER SCHOOL CAPACITY, BUT IT IS THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S ULTIMATE DECISION TO DECIDE HOW TO HOUSE THESE CHILDREN AND SO THE WAY WE WOULD REGULATE IT IS TO DIRECTLY REGULATE THE TYPE OF BUILDING IN WHICH THEY'RE PERMITTED TO USE, BUT OTHERWISE, THE EDUCATION OF THE CHILDREN IS SOLELY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT'S PER VIEW.
I UNDERSTAND THAT. I'M NOT SUGGESTING WE RETURN ANY PASS-FAIL.
JUST SIMPLY EXECUTE THE CALCULATION, PROVIDE THAT AS INFORMATION FOR DECISION-MAKING. THAT'S WHAT I'M AFTER.
I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT JUST THE CALCULATION SHEET ONLY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE ORIGINAL ONE CAME FROM, AND I'M NOT SURE THAT WE HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE TO DETERMINE WHAT THE APPROPRIATE CAPACITY, AND SOME OF IT REQUIRED NUMBERS ABOUT CURRENT STUDENT POPULATION AND PROJECTION.
JUST INFORMATION THAT I DON'T HAVE.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW THAT THE DEVELOPER IS GOING TO HAVE THAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THE ZONING.
WELL, DOESN'T THE SCHOOL DISTRICT HAVE PLANNING SOFTWARE? THEY HAVE DEMOGRAPHERS THAT DO THAT.
ONE THING, LEX I KNOW YOU SAID THAT WE DON'T ALLOW PORTABLE BUILDINGS.
WELL, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY STILL DO.
MY WIFE DOESN'T WORK THERE ANYMORE.
I DON'T GO TO WELLINGTON AT ALL.
THIS IS A NEW ORDINANCE WITHIN THE LAST TWO YEARS OR SO? THAT'S LONG AGO THAT [OVERLAPPING] FOR FIVE SO.
YEAH, BEFORE THAT THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION PROCESS FOR SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO GO AWAY OVER TIME.
WE APPROVED THE ONES WHEN THEY WERE REDOING FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL AS WELL SO.
NOW THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY WERE REDOING FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL IS THAT WE CAME UP WITH A PROCESS THAT OKAY, WELL, WE DON'T WANT THE SCHOOL TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY CAN'T HOUSE STUDENTS ON THE TEMPORARY BASIS WHILE THEY'RE WORKING ON CONSTRUCTING A LARGER FACILITY.
THAT'S THE WAY THE CURRENT ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
IS SO IF YOU APPLY FOR A REMODEL, A NEW CONSTRUCTION PERMIT, THAT SORT OF THING WHILE YOU'RE BUILDING, THEN YOU CAN USE THE TEMPORARY BUILDINGS.
GOING BACK TO THIS, I DON'T KNOW HOW A DEVELOPER OR STAFF WOULD HAVE ANY CLUE ABOUT HOW TO FILL OUT THIS ON BASIS OF THE NUMBER OF PROJECTED HOMES.
BUT THEY DO KNOW HOW MANY HOMES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN A CERTAIN DEVELOPMENT.
THESE TARGETS, AND THEN THERE ARE NATIONAL RESOURCES, FOR INSTANCE, THE TRAFFIC STUDIES.
THEY HAVE A TRAFFIC, I DON'T REMEMBER THE RESOURCE, BUT IT SAYS HOW MANY CARS WILL BE IN EACH HOME AND THAT'S NATIONALLY ACCEPTED.
IS THERE NOT THAT FOR POPULATION BASED ON AVERAGE FAMILIES? I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT COUNCILMAN MARTIN, SO I KNOW COUNCIL MAY BE AWARE, BUT FOR THE MILLIONS WATCHING AT HOME, BOTH ISD AND LSD, I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A SMALL SECTION OF THE COMMUNITY.
THEY DO ANNUAL DEMOGRAPHIC REPORTS AND ASD WEB-PAGES.
THEY'VE GOT REPORTS GOING BACK TO I THINK FALL OF 2020.
IT ANALYZES ALL THOSE TRENDS IN TERMS OF THE GROWTH OF THE DISTRICT, UNEMPLOYMENT RATES, NEW HOUSING HOMES AND STATS AND PROVIDES FOR THE PLAN AND FUNDS THEREOF, INFORMS THEIR CAPITAL PLAN.
NOTWITHSTANDING, THIS IS LOOKING AT A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS,
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THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE ANALYZING THE DISTRICT'S TREND AND AT LEAST ARGYLE TWICE A YEAR, AND LOOKING ON LSD'S WEBSITE, THEY'RE UPDATING THEIR BOARD. IT LOOKS LIKE TWICE HERE, FIRST QUARTER AND SECOND QUARTER, SOME OF THESE THAT YOU CAN PULL UP GOING BACK TO 2013 ARE THE THIRD QUARTER.SO THERE'S A LOT OF DATA THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH THEIR DEMOGRAPHERS ON IN ORDER TO TRACK LAND DEVELOPMENT AND UNDERSTAND HOW THAT'S GOING TO IMPACT THE SERVICES THEY PROVIDE.
>> I WOULD SAY THEY KNOW AND THEY HAVE TO MANAGE THAT JUST LIKE THEY HAVE TO MANAGE RESALE HOMES AND HOW ONE FAMILY MOVES OUT, AND ANOTHER FAMILY MOVES IN.
I THINK THAT BY PROVIDING THE NOTIFICATION TO THEM. I'M GOOD WITH IT.
>> WELL, IS THERE ANY BENEFIT AND ACTUALLY ASKING THEM HOW THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT INFORMATION?
>> THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO THIS IS THAT IT'S THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE A TOWN MANAGER, WHY THEY HAVE SUPERINTENDENTS, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MEET WITH DR. WRAP ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND DR. CARPENTER AND I ARE GETTING READY TO START THAT RHYTHM OF ENGAGING EACH OTHER ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND I HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO PROBLEM ENGAGING THEM ON ANY CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS STUFF.
SO I THINK THIS CAN BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY.
RIGHT BEFOREHAND WITH SOME CONCERNS WITH THE OCCUPANCY LAW, WE TALKED ON A REGULAR BASIS ALONG WITH CHIEF HENLEY.
SO THE COMMUNICATION WAS THERE AND IT WENT TO WAYS TO UNDERSTAND THE THINGS WE'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE.
I UNDERSTAND THE CONVERSATION.
BUT AGAIN, I PAY ENOUGH ATTENTION TO KNOW THAT WHEN I SIT DOWN WITH DR. CARPENTER, WE KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS A CONCERN AMONG MONKS IN THE COMMUNITY AND WE NEED TO STAY ATTUNED TO IT AND HAVE A REGULAR CONVERSATION ON IT.
BUT AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO SAY WE CAN PUT ALL THESE MEASURES IN PLACE, BUT I THINK JUST COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE ENTITIES CAN GO A LONG WAY ADDRESSING SOME OF THESE CONCERNS AND ENSURING WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
>> THEN ALSO WE'LL NEED TO KNOW SOME INFORMATION FOR ANCILLARY SUPPORT, I.E., SORROWS, AND CROSSING GUARDS TOO, SO THOSE WOULD BE TIME-RELATED RESOURCES THAT NEED TO BE FACTORED IN.
>> YOU SAID THIS WOULD BE HANDLED ADMINISTRATIVELY, BUT HOW WILL COUNSEL BE IN THE LOOP ON THIS AS WE'RE CONSIDERING DEVELOPMENT?
>> I THINK JUST MORE SO THAN ANYTHING ELSE IS THAT WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT THE COMPONENTS AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BROAD COMPONENTS OF IT.
I'M JUST SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT IF WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THE ORGANIZATION IS AWARE OF THESE PARTICULAR ISSUES.
BECAUSE I'M READING BETWEEN THE LINES IS THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS INFORMATION REACHING SOMEBODY, AN ORGANIZATION AND JUST DYING AND NOBODY ELSE AND ORGANIZATIONAL STRUCTURES AWARE OF THESE NUMBERS.
AND SO WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT IS JUST MORE OF, LET'S JUST BRING IT UP TO THE FOREFRONT AND THE COMMUNICATION AMONG THE EXECUTIVES IN THE ORGANIZATION.
JUST TO MAKE SURE NOTHING IS GETTING LOST IN THE TRANSLATION.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEIR BOARD JUST LIKE YOU DON'T WANT THEM SPEAKING FOR YOU AT THE TOWN COUNCIL.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING ADMINISTRATIVELY, WHEN I HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS, I CAN GO AHEAD AND SAY, HEY, THIS IS A TOPIC POINT FOR OUR COUNSELORS, SO CONCERNS THAT THEY HAVE AND WE CAN MAYBE WORK A SYSTEM OR APPROACH THAT WE CAN THAT CAN ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
>> AND WE CAN REACH OUT TO THE CURRENT CONTACTS WE HAVE WITH THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND ASK THEM FOR ANY ADDITIONAL PEOPLE OR IF THEY WOULD PROVIDE BOARD INFORMATION AND THEN ALSO ASK IF THERE'S ADDITIONAL STATISTICS THAT THEY WOULD LIKE FOR US TO GET FROM THE PROJECTS, AGAIN, I CUT THIS OFF OF THE PREVIOUS SHEET.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMEWHAT OF GUESSING BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF THESE DIFFERENT AGES OF SCHOOLCHILDREN, MAYBE THEY KNOW WHERE THEIR TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC IS WHEN THEY'RE BUILDING A DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T REALLY KNOW IF THAT'S HOW IT'S GOING TO TURN OUT, BUT MAYBE THERE'S SOME OTHER INFORMATION THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS USE FOR THEIR CALCULATIONS THAT WE COULD BE ASKING FOR.
>> WE'LL EVEN PROJECT A BUILD-OUT TIME.
WILL IT BE DONE IN TWO YEARS? WILL IT BE DONE IN 10 YEARS? SO RATE OF GROWTH IS IMPORTANT.
>> GOOD STUFF, [INAUDIBLE], DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE SLIDES?
>> I'VE CUT YOU OFF SHORE EARLY BEFORE, SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU GOT THROUGH ALL OF THEM.
>> MAYOR, IF I MAY, I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID NOT POORLY ARTICULATED MY POINT, WHICH IS THAT OBVIOUSLY, IF THERE'S ENGAGEMENT WITH THE BOARD AND ASK COUNCIL'S DECISION THAT I'M NOT STANDING IN THE WAY OF THAT.
BUT REALLY THIS IS A ARGYLE ISD ISSUE.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO EXPERIENCE THAT GROWTH IN THE LSD PART TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO DRIVE THESE PARTS.
AGAIN, DR. CARPENTER JUST GETTING ON BOARD, SHE'S RAMPING UP, LEARNING A LOT AND WE ALREADY ARE SCHEDULED TO MEET HERE IN A FEW WEEKS AND MAKE THOSE INITIAL INTRODUCTIONS.
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AND CERTAINLY ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN I REACHED OUT TO HER, I SAY, CONGRATULATIONS, THERE'S A LOT MORE GOING ON IN YOUR DISTRICT.SO THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S A LOT GOING THAT CAN HAVE THAT IMPACT AND REALLY THE COMMUNICATION AND RELATIONSHIPS CAN BE BUILT.
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD COMMUNICATION COORDINATION ON THEIR SIDE AND OUR SIDE.
SO I SHARE THAT JUST TO SAY, IF THE ENGAGEMENT WITH THE SCHOOL BOARD IS DESIRED, WE CAN DO THAT, BUT CERTAINLY KNOW THAT I'M WORKING WITH DR.
CARPENTER AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION AND COORDINATION IS GOOD.
>> THANK YOU, JAMES. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS ONE? WELL, WE'RE MOVING ONTO E3.
TREE PRESERVATION AND MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS ARE EARNING THE TOWN'S MIXED-USE ZONING DISTRICT REGULATIONS.
GO AHEAD. MISS LEXIN MURPHY, AGAIN.
>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THIS STARTED WITH THE ECC AND PROBABLY WHEN THE FIRST TRANCHE DEVELOPMENT CAME FORWARD AND THEY REALIZED THAT THEY DID NOT COME FORWARD WITH ANY TREE REMOVAL PERMITS WITHIN BRINGING FORWARD THAT DOCUMENT OR THAT REQUEST.
THEY HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, AND THIS IS THE CURRENT LANGUAGE FROM THE MIXED USE ORDINANCE.
SO IT TALKS ABOUT TREE PRESERVATION, TREE SURVEY AND PLANTING REQUIREMENTS ARE STANDARD IN THE MU ORDINANCE.
BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TREE REMOVAL, IT TALKS ABOUT THAT THE REMOVAL OF SPECIMEN OR PROTECTED TREES LOCATED WITHIN A LOT OF SITE DO NOT REQUIRE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
IT'S A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE IT JUST SAYS RIGHT ABOVE IT, YOU HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL BY THE TOWN OF A TREE REMOVAL PERMANENT, SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
IT SAYS BY THE TOWN THEY MEAN TOWN STAFF.
THERE IS STILL A PROCESS WHERE TOWN STAFF PROCESSES THEM AND VERIFIES ALL THE INFORMATION IS CORRECT AND THAT SORT OF THING.
SO IT DOES STILL GO THROUGH THAT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT WITH THE TOWN PROCESS, BUT THEY WERE EXEMPT FROM DOING ANY TREE REMOVAL PERMITS, DIDN'T GO THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS OF ECC AND THE TOWN COUNCIL.
AND ALSO TALKS ABOUT LET'S SEE.
>> FEEL LIKE MORE THE NEXT PAGE THAT HAS THE OTHER RELEVANT TALK SECTIONS.
IT TALKS ABOUT TREE MITIGATION REQUIREMENTS FOR MIXED-USE DISTRICT SHALL NOT APPLY TO NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WITHIN THE MIXED USE PROJECTS.
THEY DO APPLY TO RESIDENTIAL USES, BUT NOT NON-RESIDENTIAL.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE THINKING WAS AT THE TIME THAT THIS ORIGINALLY CAME FORWARD, PERHAPS THERE WAS A DESIRE TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE MORE NON-RESIDENTIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE AS A PART OF AN OVERALL MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
I THINK THIS IS BASICALLY THE GIST OF IT, BUT SO ECC WAS UPSET ABOUT THIS, I THINK THEN COUNCIL WAS UPSET ABOUT IT.
WHEN YOU LEARNED MORE ABOUT THIS, THERE'S NO LONGER ANY AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS A MIXED USE LAND-USE ON THE TOWN'S CURRENT MASTER PLAN LAND USE MAP.
SO ANY PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD FROM HERE ON OUT THAT WANTED TO BE DESIGNATED MIXED JUICE, IT WOULD BE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT AND HAS EPD AND ALL THAT.
I CAN SELL YOU JUST WITH THE ONE PROJECT THAT CAME FORWARD, WE PASS THAT ON TO THE APPLICANT THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE YOURSELF SUBJECT TO ALL OF THE TOWN'S NORMAL TREE REQUIREMENTS AS PART OF YOUR PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO BE THE EXPECTATION WHEN THIS COMES FORWARD.
AS OPPOSED TO OTHER PROJECTS THAT MIGHT HAVE INVESTED WITHIN THAT CURRENT LAND USE AND UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, ANYTHING COMING FORWARD NOW WOULD NOT BE, AND SO THE TOWN COUNCIL COULD IMPOSE WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS YOU WANT TO.
THAT'S WHY WE WEREN'T OVERLY CONCERNED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THERE WAS THE ABILITY FOR THE COUNCIL TO APPLY ANY NORMAL TREE STANDARDS THAT YOU WANTED TO ON ANY FUTURE MIXED-USE PROJECT.
BUT I WILL SAY ALSO IT'S NOT A PROBLEM TO MODIFY THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO I JUST GAVE THIS AS AN EXAMPLE.
THIS IS IN THAT SAME MODIFICATION SECTION BECAUSE THIS IS ALL WITHIN MODIFICATIONS BECAUSE IT'S MODIFICATIONS TO THE NORMAL STANDARDS.
THIS ISN'T GOING TO FOLLOW OUR REGULAR TREE PERMITTING REQUIREMENTS.
SO SAME THING WE USED TO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT STANDARDS THAT HAD TO DO WITH PARKLAND DEDICATION AND PARK DEVELOPMENT FEES WITHIN THE MIXED USE ORDINANCE.
THEN IN 2019, WE AMENDED IT IN THIS WAY THAT BASICALLY JUST SAYS, YES, YOU WILL FOLLOW CHAPTER 90, OUR NORMAL PARKLAND REQUIREMENTS.
WE CAN CRAFT A VERY SIMILAR PARAGRAPH THAT SAYS YOU WILL FOLLOW THE TOWN'S NORMAL TREE REMOVAL PERMITTING REQUIREMENT AND MITIGATION WITHIN THE MIXED-USE ORDINANCE.
>> BUT IF WE REALLY DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER AREAS THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS MIXED USE.
IF YOU THINK ABOUT THE AVAILABLE LAND, FIRST THING YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE WITH MIXED USES SEWER JUST BECAUSE OF THE DENSITY LEVEL OF IT.
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IT'S LIMITING AS TO WHETHER IF WE DIDN'T MAKE A CHANGE WHERE IT WOULD BE APPLICABLE AT ALL.>> WELL, I WAS GOING TO ASK ABOUT THAT AND BRAIN.
THE STATE PUT SOME DEMANDS ON US WITH REGARD TO PREVENTING DENIAL OF A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IF A TREE IS LOCATED IN THE BUILDABLE AREA OF A LOT, CORRECT.
WOULD THAT THEN THAT'S PRIMARILY COME TO US FOR RESIDENTIAL.
>> THAT'S MORE OF A CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUE.
WE CAN'T HAVE A DEFACTO PARK SIMPLY BECAUSE WE DECIDE WE DON'T WANT TO REWRITE IT [INAUDIBLE]
>> THAT WOULD HOLD FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
>> THAT'S CORRECT. LET'S SAY, IT WOULD APPLY REGARDLESS OF THESE.
>> IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THIS WAS WRITTEN IN THE PAST TO PRECLUDE THAT FOR COMMERCIAL, BECAUSE REALLY IMPRACTICALITY OF COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT WOULD PROBABLY COVER MOST OR A LOT OF A BUILDABLE LOTS SO IT WAS A MOOT POINT ANYWAY POSSIBLY.
>> IT'S DIFFICULT TO SPECULATE.
YOU'RE NOT ENTITLED TO THE LARGEST BUILDING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT.
THERE'S ALWAYS FLEXIBILITY TO SAY, YOU CAN STILL DEVELOP WITHOUT THE ABILITY TO REMOVE ALL OF THE TREES.
BUT AGAIN, IT WOULD JUST BE SPECULATION ON WHAT THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS.
>> I CAN TRY TO SPEAK TO THAT PARTICULAR SO WHEN TOWN UPDATE THEM ADOPTED, THE MASS PLAN 2001, THERE WERE VARIOUS AREAS OF THAT PLAN INCLUDING THE LAKESIDE BUSINESS DISTRICT.
THIS WAS WELL BEFORE MIXED USE.
THEY DIDN'T CREEK DISTRICT AND THE SPECIFIC PLAN AREAS WHICH A MAJORITY OF THOSE AREAS ARE PLANNING FOR COMMERCIAL.
NOW WE KNOW WHAT LAKESIDE WAS PLANNED FOR HALF OF IT'S LARGE-SCALE WAREHOUSING.
WAREHOUSING OUT WEST OR PREVIOUSLY WAS PLANNED FOR THAT AND THEN COMMERCIAL AND LAKESIDE.
THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, AS LEXINGTON INDICATED, IS TO REMOVE A BARRIER TO IMPEDE COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
OVER THE YEARS THAT ISSUE HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE ECC AGAIN IN THE TOWN.
I DON'T REMEMBER HOW MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS.
2016. REMOVE THOSE ALLOTMENTS, IF YOU WILL, FROM LAKESIDE, THAT THE SPECIFIC PLANNING AREAS IN THE DENTON CREEK DISTRICT.
I THINK I WAS HERE WHEN THE MIXED USE ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED, BUT I DON'T RECALL SPECIFIC DISCUSSIONS ABOUT IT, BUT I THINK IT'S A VERY SIMILAR THOUGHT PROCESS.
>> I THINK THE GOAL HERE IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ECC GETS TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY FUTURE.
I'M CONCERNED THAT IF WE WENT THROUGH THE NPA PROCESS FOR NEW MIXED-USE PROPOSAL, IT CAME TO US AND YES, WE'D HAVE A LOT OF DISCRETION, BUT THE ECC IS STILL WOULDN'T BE INVOLVED.
>> WELL, I SAY YOU BECAUSE STAFF WAS BEING A VOICE OF YOU TO APPLICANTS.
BASICALLY, AGAIN, WITH THE PROJECT THAT CAME FORWARD, WE SAID, YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO SAY BECAUSE YOU'RE DOING AN MPA, YOU'RE WRITING YOUR OWN DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
YOU'RE GOING TO NEED TO WRITE INTO YOUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS.
IT'S YOUR SUBJECT TO THE TOWN STREET ORDINANCE INSTEAD OF WHAT'S WRITTEN HERE.
THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT AND DID A TREE SURVEY AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS.
I WILL SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT STAFF IS TELLING APPLICANTS WOULD TELL ANY OTHER APPLICANT THAT CAME FORWARD, HEY, THERE'S GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT THIS.
YOU SHOULD MAKE YOURSELF SUBJECT TO THAT.
BY DOING THAT, IF THEY WROTE THAT INTO THEIR PD STANDARDS, THAT THEY WERE SUBJECT TO THE TOWNS TREE ORDINANCE AND THEY WOULD GO TO ECC FOR A RECOMMENDATION.
>> BUT ONLY IF THEY AGREE TO THAT.
>> WELL, IF THEY AGREED AND THEN THE THOUGHT BEING THAT IF THEY DIDN'T AGREE AND I WENT TO COUNCIL AND YOU WERE LIKE, NO, WE WANTED YOU TO GO THROUGH ECC, THEN YOU WOULD DENY THE PROJECT.
>> BUT IF WE'RE TELLING THEM THAT ANYWAY AND THERE ISN'T A WHOLE LOT AT STAKE, THEN LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND MAKE IT THE SAME STANDARD ACROSS THE BOARD NO MATTER WHAT DEVELOPMENT TYPE IT IS.
THAT SEEMS LIKE THE EASY SOLUTION AND NOT REALLY THAT IMPACTFUL ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. SO I SAY WE DO IT.
>> WELL, HOW MANY MORE OF THESE ARE WE EXPECTING TO COME FORWARD?
>> BUT THERE ISN'T ANY IN TOWN.
>> BUT THERE'S ONE MAIN PA RIGHT NOW FOR AN MIXED-USE, THAT'S NOT A MIXED USE ON THE MASTER PLAN.
ONE IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AS WE SPEAK.
THE IDEA THAT THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN IS FACTUALLY INCORRECT SINCE IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
THERE ARE OTHER UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES THAT COULD VERY WELL BE PROPOSED FOR MIXED USE TOO.
WE DON'T KNOW YET, IS THERE'S LOTS OF LAND ON THE WEST SIDE THAT COULD BE PROPOSED FOR MIXED-USE.
THIS JUST MAKES SURE THAT THE ECC IS GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS AND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMITS CAN STILL BE GRANTED.
IT DOESN'T REALLY DO ANY HARM.
WE'RE TELLING THEM TO DO IT ANYWAY.
LET'S JUST MAKE IT ACROSS THE BOARD.
>> DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY MORE RESOURCES IT WILL TAKE ON STAFF, THE TIME OF STAFF? TO GO THROUGH ALL THIS IF WE JUST ADD IT AND MAKE IT.
>> IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE THAT BIG OF AN ASK FROM SCIENCE PERSPECTIVE.
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WE WOULD TACK IT ON TO THE NEXT LDR WE DO THAT IMPACTS CHAPTER 98, THE ZONING DISTRICTS.WE CAN MAKE THIS ONE OF THE CHANGES THAT'S ADDRESSED WITHIN IT, IF THAT'S WHEN SOMETHING COUNCIL WANTS US TO DO.
>> ANY OTHER ISSUE IS IF THERE'S A CURRENT MPA APPLICATION THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH THE TOWN.
IF WE CHANGE IT AFTER THE FACT, THEY'RE GRANDFATHERED IN.
>> BUT THEY'VE ALREADY MADE THEMSELVES SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE.
>> YOU'VE SEEN SO FAR LIKE THAT.
THEY CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THEIR MIND IS THEIR APPLICATIONS.
THE PARTICULAR ONE THAT HAS ALREADY COME FORWARD DIDN'T HAVE ANY SPECIMEN TREE.
YOU ARE CORRECT THAT THAT APPLICATION, ANY APPLICATION, THOSE IN PROCESS BEFORE THE CHANGE WAS MADE, WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE CHANGE.
>> THIS IS THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THOUGH.
WE WOULD NEED TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.
>> IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO REQUIRE AN ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM WITH A VOTE BECAUSE TYPICALLY WE DON'T CALL THE ROLL ON A WORKSTATION.
>> THIS WOULD BE A ZONING ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, SO I'D HAVE TO GO TO P&Z.
>> THEY COUNSEL TO PUBLIC HERE.
>> ARE YOU RECOMMENDING THAT COUNCIL DOES THAT, THEN RECOMMEND YOU?
>> YOU'RE ASKING WE CONTINUE FORWARD WITH THIS PROCESS OF MAKING THE ORDINANCE TREE REMOVAL ORGANS APPLY TO FUTURE MIXED-USE PROPOSALS.
I THINK WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND GO AHEAD AND MAKE THAT CHANGE CODIFIED THAT CHANGE, INSTEAD OF JUST ASKING THEM TO DO IT.
>> I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S NECESSARY.
>> I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY, BUT I DO THINK IT'D BE A GOOD IDEA TO DO IT JUST TO KEEP THAT CONSISTENCY SO I'M FOR THAT.
>> ALEX SAID WE WILL WE WILL ADD THIS INTO THE NEXT LDR AMENDMENT THAT WE BRING FORWARD THAT THAT IS LOOKING AT MAKING ADJUSTMENTS, SO LAND USES.
>> PERFECT. ANYTHING ELSE ON ITEM 3?
>> MAYOR, JUST TO Y'ALL WENT WHERE I WAS ABOUT TO ASK YOU ALL TO GO.
WE GOT THE DIRECTION WE NEED FOR THREE, WHAT I WANTED TO VERIFY, ONE WAS JUST MORE INFORMATIONAL EDUCATING YOU ALL.
BUT FOR TWO, OBVIOUSLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COUNCIL IS COMFORTABLE FOR ME TO JUST ENGAGE WITH DR. CARPENTERS ARE EXPECTED, GET HER THOUGHTS AND FEEDBACK ON THAT AND I CAN REPORT BACK TO YOU ALL.
>> THEN IS IT SPECIFICALLY JUST RELATED TO THE ONE ISD THEN?
>> MORE AND MORE OR LESS LIKE THIS IN THEORY, IT COULD HAPPEN IN LOUISVILLE, BUT WE KNOW WHERE THE GROWTH IS GOING TO DRIVE THOSE NUMBERS IS GOING TO BE OUT WEST AT OUR GOLIATH.
>> MOST FILLS GOT DECLINING STUDENT POPULATION.
>> MORE AND MORE OR LESS THIS IS A ISD ISSUE.
>> NORTHWEST ISD, YOU DON'T WANT TO LEAVE THEM OUT.
>> ANYTHING ELSE? WITH THAT THE TIME IS 07:08 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL
[F. CLOSED MEETING]
IS CONVENING INTO A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTION 071.THE TIME IS NOW 08:30 IN TOWN COUNCIL IS RECONVENE INTO AN OPEN MEETING.
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AS A RESULT OF OUR CLOSED SESSION, THERE IS NO ACTION TO BE TAKEN.THE TIME IS NOW 08:30 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.