Oct 16, 2023 Town Council Archive

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ALL RIGHT. THE TIME IS NOW 6:00, AND I CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

CHAPLAIN JERRY COLE, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

WOULD YOU BOW WITH ME? ETERNAL GOD, GOD BEFORE WHOM NATIONS HAVE TREMBLED.

WE ASK FOR YOUR PRESENCE TONIGHT IN OUR MEETING.

YOU ONCE SPOKE THROUGH YOUR PROPHET TO SAY, WORK FOR THE PEACE AND PROSPERITY OF THE CITY IN WHICH YOU DWELL OR IF THAT CITY'S WELFARE IS DETERMINED, SO WILL YOUR OWN WELFARE BE DETERMINED.

SO WE PRAY FOR YOUR PRESENCE AND YOUR WISDOM AND DISCERNING JUDGMENT TO REST IN THE HEARTS OF THESE WHO HAVE STEPPED ASIDE FROM THEIR REGULAR ACTIVITIES TO OFFER THEMSELVES IN SERVICE BEFORE THE COMMUNITY.

GUIDE THEIR THOUGHTS AND AS THEY DELIBERATE ON THE DECISIONS TO BE MADE TONIGHT.

LET THEM BE MADE IN SUCH A WAY THAT IT'S BEST FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR OUR FELLOW CITIZENS.

WE THANK YOU FOR NOT ONLY THESE WHO ARE PRESENT, WHO SERVE, BUT ESPECIALLY WOULD LIFT A PRAYER FOR OUR FIRST RESPONDERS WHO SO FAITHFULLY SERVE US DAY AND NIGHT. WE OFTEN DO NOT HEAR OF THEIR SERVICE WE HEAR THE TELLTALE SOUNDS OF SIRENS AND KNOW THAT SOMETHING'S HAPPENING, AND WE PERHAPS EVEN READ OUR EMAILS AND SEE ON NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH THAT THERE'S SOMETHING AFOOT IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT NEEDS THEIR ATTENTION, BUT, LORD, THESE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVE FAITHFULLY THROUGH OUR POLICE AND FIRE AND EMS SERVICE ARE TRULY GUARDIANS FOR EACH ONE OF US THROUGH THE DAY.

SO WE JUST PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS ON THIS TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF LIVING IN A PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THE FREEDOM TO GATHER LIKE THIS, AND TO DELIBERATE AND MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE FUTURE.

AS WE LOOK TO YOU WHO PROMISED TO BRING PEACE TO THOSE WHO TURN TO YOU, AND WE OFFER THIS IN YOUR NAME.

AMEN. AMEN.

THANK YOU, CHAPLAIN COLE.

NOW, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE PLEDGE TO OUR TEXAS FLAG.

THANK YOU. YOU MAY BE SEATED.

[D. PRESENTATION(S)]

STARTING US OFF THIS EVENING WILL BE FIRE CHIEF PAUL HENLEY AND STEPHANIE VILLARREAL FOR A PRESENTATION OF THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATOR PROGRAM.

I MADE THAT SOUND EXCITING.

IT DID, IT'S SO EXCITING.

MAYOR, COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING I'M VERY PROUD TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOU AND OUR CITIZENS TODAY TO ANNOUNCE OUR NEW AED DEFIBRILLATOR PROGRAM.

LAST FISCAL YEAR, COUNCIL AS WELL AS TOWN MANAGEMENT STAFF APPROVED OUR AEDS WHERE WE WERE ABLE TO REPLACE 25 AGING AEDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, WHICH BRINGS OUR TOTAL TO 33 THROUGHOUT THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND AND OFFICER VILLAREAL, AS WELL AS MANY IN OUR PREVENTION DEPARTMENT, HAVE BEEN TIRELESSLY TRAINING A LOT OF FOLKS ON HOW TO USE THOSE, AND WE'RE GOING TO OFFER A LOT OF CLASSES MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

SO WE'VE GOT A VIDEO THAT WE WANT TO OPEN WITH, AND THEN OFFICER VILLAREAL WILL TAKE THE TAKE YOU THROUGH A QUICK POWERPOINT PRESENTATION ABOUT PULSEPOINT AND WHAT IT HAS TO OFFER FIRE AND OUR PREVENTION DIVISION.

WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN INFORMED CITIZENRY, AND WITH THAT INFORMED CITIZENRY THAT'S GOING TO HELP US SAVE LIVES, AND THIS IS ONE WAY THAT EVERYBODY CAN REALLY JOIN THE FIGHT AND HELP AND SAVE LIVES.

SO OUR COMMUNICATIONS, THANKS TO ANNA AND THE TEAM FOR A WONDERFUL VIDEO TO KICK OFF SUDDEN CARDIAC AWARENESS MONTH.

[VIDEO] YOU CAN DO IT, EIGHT MILES, YOU GOT THIS.

THREE, TWO, ONE.

THAT'S EIGHT MILES. YOU ALL RIGHT TIM? YEAH I JUST NEED A BREAK AND SOME WATER.

OH. TIM.

TIM, ARE YOU OKAY? CALL 911.

HELLO. FLOWER MOUND 911 WHAT'S YOUR EMERGENCY? SOMEONE COLLAPSED WHILE WORKING OUT.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE BREATHING.

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OKAY. DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE AED IS LOCATED? NO I DON'T.

OKAY IF YOU GO DOWN THE STAIRS, THE AED WILL BE STRAIGHT AHEAD.

YOU CAN'T MISS IT.

OKAY.

OKAY I'M WITH HIM. GOOD THE AED WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THE NECESSARY STEPS TO REVIVE THE PATIENT.

I HAVE ALERTED EMS AND THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY.

UNIT. OKAY.

CUT OR TEAR CLOTHING TO EXPOSE PATIENTS BARE CHEST.

OPEN PAD PACKAGE.

ATTACH PADS TO PATIENT'S BARE CHEST.

ATTACH PADS TO PATIENT'S BARE CHEST.

DON'T TOUCH PATIENT.

ANALYZING. SHOCK ADVISED.

PRESS FLASHING SHOCK BUTTON.

SHOCK DELIVERED.

START CPR.

PUSH TO MATCH THE TONE.

HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON? ARE YOU OKAY? WHAT HAPPENED? YOU PASSED OUT, MAN. IT WAS KIND OF COOL.

I THINK I JUST SAVED YOUR LIFE.

AEDS ARE A CRITICAL FIRST STEP IN SURVIVING CARDIAC ARREST.

YOUR ODDS OF SURVIVAL INCREASE FROM 10% WITH ONLY CPR TO 90% WITH THE USE OF CPR AND AN AED.

WHEN YOU REGISTER YOUR AED, DISPATCH IS ABLE TO QUICKLY LOCATE THE CLOSEST AED.

THIS VITAL INFORMATION COULD POSSIBLY SAVE SOMEONE'S LIFE.

TO REGISTER YOUR AED, PLEASE VISIT WWW.FLOWER-MOUND.

COM/AED.

ALL RIGHT. GOOD EVENING.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB ON THAT VIDEO.

IT WAS A LOT OF FUN TO MAKE.

WE WERE EXCITED TO MAKE IT, AND THEY TURNED IT AROUND JUST IN TIME FOR OCTOBER.

SUDDEN CARDIAC AWARENESS MONTH.

IT'S THE PERFECT TIME TO KIND OF GO OVER THIS.

OUR AEDS ALSO JUST CAME IN.

THEY WERE ON BACK ORDER FOR A WHILE, SO IT WAS AGAIN GOOD TIMING.

SO THE AEDS, IF YOU GUYS DON'T KNOW ABOUT THEM, AUTOMATED EXTERNAL DEFIBRILLATORS THEY'RE PUT ON WHEN SOMEONE'S IN CARDIAC ARREST.

THEY'RE LOCATED IN A LOT OF PUBLIC PLACES, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO ANALYZE THE RHYTHM OF THE HEART AND ONLY DELIVER SHOCKS WHEN NEEDED.

THAT WAY, WE'RE NOT HAVING TO WORRY ABOUT PEOPLE GETTING SHOCKED FOR NO REASON.

IT DOES ALL THE WORK FOR YOU.

PEOPLE WHO RECEIVE A SHOCK WITHIN THREE MINUTES OF A WITNESSED CARDIAC ARREST HAVE A VERY HIGH RATE OF SURVIVAL WITHOUT A NEUROLOGICAL DEFICIT.

PEOPLE CAN SURVIVE.

THAT'S GREAT, BUT WE WANT THEM TO KIND OF COME OUT OF THE HOSPITAL FULLY INTACT, ABLE TO CONTINUE THEIR DAILY LIVES.

THAT'S THE BEST OUTCOME WE CAN HOPE FOR.

SO WE IN THE FIRE CODE LAST YEAR, WE ADOPTED AN AMENDMENT REQUIRING AEDS IN CERTAIN OCCUPANCIES FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION OR NEW OWNERS.

WE'RE ONE OF THE FIRST IN THE METROPLEX THAT ARE DOING THAT.

SOON. I THINK OTHER PEOPLE WILL START ADOPTING THAT, BUT WE'VE HAD QUITE A FEW OCCUPANCIES ALREADY THAT HAVE FALLEN INTO THAT.

IT'S REALLY GREAT WHEN THEY'RE CALLING US SAYING, HEY, WHAT SHOULD WE GET? WHERE DO WE NEED IT? THEY'RE ASKING A LOT OF QUESTIONS, BUT WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY PUSHBACK.

PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHY WE NEED THEM.

THE AED UNITS THAT WE PURCHASED, LIKE HE WAS SAYING, THIS IS FROM A BUDGET ITEM WE WANTED.

THE UNITS WE HAD AROUND TOWN WERE SOME OF THEM CLOSE TO 20 YEARS OLD.

BETWEEN 8 AND 10 YEARS IS WHEN THEY SHOULD BE REPLACED.

THERE'S BEEN CHANGES IN THE ALGORITHMS WE'RE USING, SO WE WANTED TO GET EVERYTHING UP TO DATE.

THE UNITS WE CHOSE, THEY GO WITH OUR MEDICS.

IF OUR AMBULANCE COMES, ALL THEY HAVE TO DO IS UNPLUG IT AND PLUG IT RIGHT INTO OUR MONITORS.

THAT SAVES A LOT ON TIME, AND IT SAVES ON MONEY FOR ALL THOSE EXPENSIVE PADS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

IT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE CHOSE THIS SPECIFIC UNIT, AND ALSO BECAUSE IT'S A LOT EASIER TO USE.

IT'S TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.

THERE'S PHOTOS, IT'S COACHING YOU SAYING PUSH A LITTLE FASTER, PUSH A LITTLE HARDER.

IT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

SO I THINK IT'LL BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE FOR ANYONE TO USE.

SO PULSE POINT IS SOMETHING WE WERE USING BEFORE EVEN PURCHASING THESE NEW UNITS.

WE WERE USING IT TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF OUR AEDS.

THEY NEED MONTHLY MAINTENANCE.

THEY NEED TO BE CHECKED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE THERE, MAKE SURE NOTHING'S EXPIRED AND TO HAVE 25-30, YOU KNOW, WE KEPT FINDING ANOTHER ONE HERE AND THERE.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE 35.

SO THAT'S A NEWER DEVELOPMENT.

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SO NOW WE HAVE A FULL INVENTORY ON WHAT WE HAVE, AND WE HAVE ONE REGISTRY THAT PUTS THEM ALL IN ONE PLACE FOR US TO CHECK, BUT IT ALSO HAS THE ADDED BONUS OF TYING IN WITH OUR DISPATCH.

SO MEDICAL DISPATCHING THEY ASK YOU A FEW QUESTIONS.

IT GOES IN ORDER OF WHAT YOUR COMPLAINTS ARE.

WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT ANY CARDIAC ISSUES, IT'LL ASK DO YOU HAVE AN AED AVAILABLE NOW? THEY DON'T HAVE TO ASK THAT.

THEY JUST SAY THERE'S AN AED WITHIN 100FT OF YOU.

IT'S EXTREMELY ACCURATE.

WE CHECK WHERE THEY ARE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY THERE, BUT ANYONE CAN ADD ONE ON THERE.

ONCE THEY'RE ADDED, THEY KIND OF COME TO US AND WE SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET EYES ON IT.

WE DON'T WANT TO GIVE INACCURATE INFORMATION TO DISPATCH.

THAT'S THE BEST PART ABOUT THIS IS THAT DISPATCHERS, THEY JUST SEE IT.

THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING FOR IT.

IT JUST SAYS, YES, YOU HAVE THIS AED SO WE'RE ENCOURAGING ALL OF OUR BUSINESS OWNERS TO REGISTER THEIR AED IF WE DON'T KNOW THEY HAVE THEM OR IF THEY JUST BOUGHT ONE, THEY CAN DO IT ONLINE. THERE'S A QR CODE THERE, AND I'LL PULL UP THE MAP IN A SECOND.

IT'LL ALSO SHOW WHERE ALL OF OUR AEDS ARE.

WE HAVE 137 AS OF TODAY REGISTERED WITHIN FLOWER MOUND, BUT I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT MORE.

AS WE DO OUR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.

WE'RE GOING INTO THESE BUSINESSES.

WE DO REGISTER THEM FOR THE BUSINESS OWNERS AND WHOEVER ELSE IF THEY NEED IT, BUT WE'RE HAVING A LOT MORE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN CALLING US TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

SO WE TALKED ABOUT SUDDEN CARDIAC ARREST AWARENESS MONTH.

OCTOBER IS ALWAYS A BUSY MONTH FOR I THINK, EVERYONE, BUT THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR US.

WE'RE TRYING TO GET AS MANY AEDS REGISTERED THIS MONTH AS POSSIBLE, JUST TO KIND OF BRING AWARENESS TO THAT.

ALSO, JUST TO HAVE PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I'M WALKING NEXT TO SOMETHING THAT'S AN AED.

ONCE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, YOU SEE IT ALL THE TIME.

THE VIDEO WAS DONE WITH OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT.

WE WORKED OVER AT THE CAC WITH IT, OUR DISPATCHERS.

IT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO GET THEM ON CAMERA, BUT THEY COMPLIED, THEY DID IT.

THEY DID A GREAT JOB.

WE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WORKING REALLY CLOSE WITH OUR CREWS TO COME IN AND DO THIS.

THEY GOT A CALL OF, JUST COME TO THE CAC AND YOU'LL FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN YOU GET THERE.

SO IT WAS REALLY FUN TO DO THAT VIDEO AND JUST KIND OF HAVE SOME OF THAT WORKING WITHIN OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS, AND WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO RELEASE A VIDEO TOMORROW ALONG WITH SOME OTHER STUFF, SO YOU GUYS ARE THE FIRST TO REALLY SEE IT.

IT'S LIKE I SAID, I'M EXCITED TO HAVE IT RELEASED.

YES, EXACTLY.

SO SINCE JANUARY OF THIS YEAR, WE HAVE TRAINED OVER 450 PEOPLE IN HANDS-ONLY CPR, STOP THE BLEED AND AED USE.

WE USUALLY DO THEM ALL AS ONE COURSE.

WE'VE ALSO TRAINED PROBABLY AN ADDITIONAL 50 ON INFANT CHILD CPR, AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR RED CROSS CARD CERTIFICATION COURSES.

SO WE'VE BEEN VERY BUSY GETTING PEOPLE TRAINED UP ON THINGS.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO EACH DEPARTMENT.

WE'VE DONE QUITE A FEW OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, OUR LARGER ONES, ON TEACHING THEM THIS.

THEY ALL GET TOGETHER AS MANY OF THEM AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'RE TEACHING THEM ALL THESE SKILLS, AND WE'RE KIND OF TAILORING IT SPECIFIC TO THEIR DEPARTMENT FOR OUR PUBLIC WORKS.

WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST HAZARDS THEY'RE GOING TO ENCOUNTER? IN THE SUMMER IT'S HEAT.

SO TEACHING THEM ABOUT HEAT EMERGENCIES AS WELL.

WE'RE ALSO TRYING TO GET JUST EVERYONE ELSE.

NOW THAT WE'RE PUTTING THESE BRAND NEW UNITS INTO USE, WE WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW HOW TO USE THEM.

SO WE'VE GOT A TRAINING BULLETIN THAT'LL GO OUT AS EACH BUILDING GETS THEIR NEW AED.

TODAY TOWN HALL GOTTEN THEIRS, AND IT'S BEEN INSTALLED AND READY, AS WELL AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

ALL FOUR OF THEIR UNITS HAVE BEEN REPLACED.

WE ALSO PLAN TO EXPAND OUR PUBLIC EDUCATION TO DO MONTHLY OR BI MONTHLY COURSES FOR CPR, AED FOR THE PUBLIC.

SO HERE IS THE WEBSITE, THIS LINK.

IT'S GOING TO TAKE YOU TO OUR WEBSITE FOR PULSE POINT, BUT THIS ALSO SHOWS A GREAT MAP.

THIS IS WHAT THE MAPS LOOK LIKE.

ANYONE CAN PULL THIS UP, BUT IT'LL SHOW ALL OF OUR UNITS.

IT'S PRETTY GREAT.

LIKE I SAID, IF YOU CLICK ON ONE, IT GIVES YOU SOME INFORMATION HERE.

WE HAVE THEM TAKE A PICTURE THAT WAY WE GET A GOOD PICTURE OF WHERE IT IS SO PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, BUT IT ALSO IS A LOCATION DESCRIPTION.

WHILE WE ARE DOING THESE DESCRIPTIONS, WE ASK THE BUSINESS OWNER, WHAT DO YOU CALL THIS AREA THAT YOU HAVE IT IN BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GOING TO BE MAKING THOSE PHONE CALLS, AND DISPATCH WILL BE TALKING TO YOU.

SO ALL OF THESE YELLOW FLAGS ARE OUR VERIFIED AEDS IN TOWN.

I SAID SOME ARE ADDED BY US AND A LOT HAVE BEEN BEING ADDED BY THESE BUSINESS OWNERS.

WE'VE WORKED WITH LISD AND THEIR NURSES TO GET ALL OF THE UNITS IN THE SCHOOLS PUT IN THERE, AND THEY'VE REALLY APPRECIATED THAT AS WELL.

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IT'S COPPELL AND SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE BEEN USING THIS WITH GREAT SUCCESS, SO WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE WHERE IT GOES.

WELL, ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS ANYONE HAS, BUT WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND WHAT IT CAN OFFER TO ALL OUR CITIZENS.

I DO HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO, AND SECOND OF ALL, AS A RESIDENT, WHERE'S THE BEST PLACE FOR ME TO LOOK TO FIND THE SCHEDULE OF TRAINING CLASSES IF I WANTED TO ATTEND? SO ON OUR WEBSITE, WE'VE GOT OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH PAGE ON THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WEBSITE, AND WE POST OUR CLASSES ON THERE.

WE ALSO WILL POST OUR CLASSES ON SOCIAL MEDIA JUST TO SAY, HEY, WE'VE GOT THIS UPCOMING THIS MONTH.

PLEASE SIGN UP OR, YOU KNOW, COME AND COME AND JOIN.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE WANTED A LOT OF CLASSES, SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE EVERYONE WHAT THEY NEED AND WE WANT TO TRAIN PEOPLE IN THESE.

THANK YOU, AND I CAN TELL YOU TOO, WE HAVE MANY PEOPLE JUST STOP BY AND WE'LL DO A PRETTY IMPROMPTU CLASS, YOU KNOW, REALLY QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY IF THEY'VE GOT A SMALL GROUP WITH THEM, BUT WE'VE DONE ONE ON ONE INSTRUCTION, SO THAT'S WHAT WE DO.

SO WE'RE ALWAYS THERE TO HELP.

OH, GREAT.

STEPHANIE, THANK YOU SO MUCH, AND, CHIEF, IF YOU COULD MAKE SURE YOU WORK WITH JAMES AND STAFF TO GET ALL THAT INFORMATION TO LAURI IN THE CHAMBER SO WE CAN PUSH THAT OUT DIRECTLY TO THEIR DISTRIBUTION AND ALL THE BUSINESSES DIRECTLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT, MAYOR.

REAL QUICK THOUGH, I'M A I'M A BRAG ON STEPHANIE REAL QUICK, I JUST WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT STEPHANIE IS OUR WE RECOGNIZE EMPLOYEES QUARTERLY FOR OUTSTANDING WORK AND EXHIBITING OUR VALUES, OUR CORE VALUES, AND STEPHANIE IS THE REIGNING WOI CHAMP, WHICH MEANS WE OWN IT, AND THAT'S ONE OF OUR TAGLINES, AND SO SHE'LL HAVE THE BELT HERE FOR A COUPLE MORE WEEKS.

WE'RE ABOUT TO NAME OUR NEXT RECIPIENT, BUT AGAIN, IT'S JUST A REFLECTION OF THE GREAT WORK THAT STEPHANIE DOES WITH OUR FIRE PREVENTION TEAM AND GETTING INFORMATION OUT.

SO I WAS NOT GOING TO LET HER GET AWAY WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING HER AS THE AS OUR CUSTOMER SERVICE CHAMP.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, AND WITH THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM E

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]

JUST AS A REMINDER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA THAT IS NOT MARKED PUBLIC HEARING.

ISSUES REGARDING DAILY OPERATIONAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS SHOULD FIRST BE DEALT WITH BY CALLING TOWN HALL AT (972) 874-6000 D URING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS, AND IN ACCORDANCE WITH STATE LAW, THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR ACTING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

TO SPEAK TO TOWN COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT FORM.

SPEAKERS TONIGHT WILL BE LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES.

A TONE WILL SOUND WHEN YOU HAVE 30S LEFT AND AGAIN WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS US, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL.

ALSO THIS EVENING, OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO WISH TO SPEAK OR PARTICIPATE ON AN AGENDA ITEM, AND SO WE CAN GET TO THE TOWN'S BUSINESSES AT A REASONABLE TIME, STARTING WITH OUR NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 19TH DONATED TIME WILL ONLY BE ACCEPTED FOR ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

STARTING TONIGHT WITH PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE MR. I'M SORRY, MR. SHARMA. ENTERING.

I HAVE REALLY DIFFICULTY PRONOUNCING YOUR FIRST NAME, I APOLOGIZE.

AND WE ALSO HAVE A COMMENT CARD FROM BALA JI, AND YOU'RE IN THE ROOM, SIR.

ALL RIGHT, SO, MR. SHARMA AGAIN SO TONIGHT WILL BE THE LAST NIGHT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW DONATED TIME, BUT YOU MADE IT IN UNDER THE WIRE, SO YOU WILL HAVE SIX MINUTES TOTAL SIR, PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER AND MY FELLOW CITIZENS OF FLOWER MOUND.

MY NAME IS ANURAG SHARMA.

I LIVE AT 4521 [INAUDIBLE] DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

NAMASTE AND GREETINGS TO EVERYONE.

NAMASTE IS OUR WAY OF SAYING GREETINGS TO EACH OTHER.

I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF DCICA.

MOST OF YOU ALREADY KNOW IT'S DENTON COUNTY INDIAN CULTURAL ASSOCIATION, AND WE ARE HERE TO EXTEND OUR INVITATION TO JOIN US TO CELEBRATE HINDU FESTIVAL OF DIWALI. SO ORIGINAL MEANING OF DIWALI IS ROW OF LIGHT. DIWALI IS ALSO CELEBRATED BY HINDUS, JAINS, SIKHS, BUDDHISTS AND PEOPLE OF INDIA AND NON-INDIAN HERITAGE, DESPITE EACH FAITH HAVING ITS OWN HISTORICAL LEGENDS AND CELEBRATION EVENTS, THE HOLIDAY REPRESENTS THE SAME SYMBOLIC VICTORY OF VICTORY OF LIGHT OVER DARKNESS, KNOWLEDGE OVER IGNORANCE, AND GOOD OVER EVIL.

SO THAT'S OUR MESSAGE WHILE WE CELEBRATE FIVE DAY FESTIVAL OF DIWALI.

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ACTUAL DIWALI IS ON NOVEMBER 12TH, WHICH IS THURSDAY, AND THIS YEAR WE ARE CELEBRATING DIWALI HERE IN FLOWER MOUND AT GERAULT PARK.

SO ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28TH FROM 5 P.M.

TO 9 P.M, AND SPECIAL EVENT IS ALSO, WE HAVE A FIREWORKS AT 8:00.

YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? HERE ARE A FEW PICTURES.

WE CELEBRATED DIWALI AT WHITE HOUSE.

WE ALSO CELEBRATED DIWALI AT AUSTIN, THE CAPITOL BUILDING ALSO COPPELL ISD.

WE ALSO CELEBRATED DIWALI AT LISD AND MULTIPLE PLACES.

SO HAPPY DIWALI TO EVERYONE.

PLEASE JOIN US FOR THIS EVENT ON 28TH OF OCTOBER.

WE'LL SEE YOU ALL THERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

EXCELLENT THANK YOU SIR [APPLAUSE].

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO MR. DWAYNE FRANCIS.

SIR, IF YOU COULD DO ME A FAVOR AND CLOSE THAT PRESENTATION.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT. THAT DOESN'T COUNT TOWARDS YOUR TIME.

NOT THAT IT WASN'T GOOD, IT WAS JUST DISTRACTING ME.

HI, MY NAME IS DWAYNE FRANCIS, 3916 BELSTRUM DRIVE FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

THE SUMMIT CLUB IS THE OLDEST FRATERNAL CIVIC ORGANIZATION IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, SUPPORTING YOUTH AND FAMILY PROGRAMS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

NEXT YEAR, WE CELEBRATE OUR 50TH ANNIVERSARY AS A TEXAS NONPROFIT AND 501C3 ORGANIZATION WE CONTINUALLY SEEK NEW WAYS TO ENRICH OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH FINANCIAL GRANTS AND GIFTS FOR LOCAL CHARITIES AND EDUCATION GROUPS IN OUR TOWN.

AS SUCH, WE STRIVE TO RAISE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THOSE GROUPS AND LOCAL COMMUNITY PROGRAMS. FOR THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE SUMMIT CLUB OF FLOWER MOUND HAS HOSTED THE FLOWER MOUND SMOKE FEST, A TEXAS STATE BARBECUE CHAMPIONSHIP COMPETITION AND FUNDRAISER.

THE SMOKE FEST ATTRACTS HUNDREDS OF ATTENDEES WHO GET TO SAMPLE WHAT THE COMPETITION TEAMS HAVE PREPARED, LISTEN TO LIVE MUSIC, AND STROLL AMONG DOZENS OF VENDORS.

IT IS A COMMUNITY EVENT, FAMILY FRIENDLY AND ENJOYED BY ALL.

ON FRIDAY, OCTOBER 27TH AT 6 P.M., WE KICK OFF OUR SMOKE FEST WEEKEND WITH FLURRIES FRIDAY NIGHT STAKEOUT DINNER.

GUESTS ENJOY A STEAK DINNER COOKED BY SUMMER CLUB MEMBERS.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUDGE THE APPETIZER AND STATE COMPETITIONS FROM THE COOK TEAMS. THERE WILL BE A BAND A SILENT AUCTION.

THEN ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 28TH, FROM 11 A.M.

TO 4 P.M., WE OPEN OUR GATES TO HUNDREDS OF ATTENDEES WHO GET TO TASTE BARBECUE SAMPLES THAT THE TEAMS COMPETING IN THE PEOPLE'S CHOICE COMPETITION HAVE PREPARED, SHOP AMONG DOZENS OF VENDORS AND LISTEN TO LIVE MUSIC WITH ACTIVITIES FOR KIDS.

THE SMOKE FEST IS THE CLUB'S PRIMARY PRIMARY FUNDRAISER.

PROCEEDS FROM THE SUMMIT CLUB'S ACTIVITIES, WHICH INCLUDE ACADEMIC EXCELLENCE AWARDS TO OUTSTANDING FIFTH AND EIGHTH GRADE STUDENTS AND SCHOLARSHIPS TO THE MIDWESTERN STATE UNIVERSITY AND NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS COLLEGE, FINANCIAL GRANTS TO OTHER NONPROFITS SUCH AS COMMUNITY AND SCHOOLS, CHILDREN'S ADVOCACY CENTER, WINNING THE FIGHT AND OTHERS. FINANCIAL GRANTS AND GIFTS TO THE FLOWER MOUND POLICE ASSOCIATION AND THE FLOWER MOUND FIREFIGHTERS FOUNDATION.

FOR MORE INFORMATION, PLEASE VISIT OUR WEBSITE WWW.SUMMITCLUB.ORG TO PURCHASE TICKETS OR FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ON SMOKE FEST 2023.

LAST ONLY FOR A LIMITED TIME SMOKE FEST ADULT TICKETS PURCHASED BEFORE OCTOBER 21ST, WHICH IS THIS WEEK COMING UP ARE REDUCED TO $20.

WE HOPE ALL OF YOU CAN ATTEND AND SUPPORT THIS FUNDRAISER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR.

LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

NEXT WILL BE MR. JACK FURST.

GOOD EVENING, SIR.

GOOD EVENING MAYOR. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL.

MY NAME IS JACK FURST.

MY ADDRESS IS 2591, SUITE 100, LAKESIDE PARKWAY, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

PURSUANT TO ARTICLE SEVEN OF THE TOWN CHARTER, I AM REQUESTING THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL VOTE TO APPROVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF A PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT WITHIN THE TOWN ON THE PROPERTY COMMONLY KNOWN AS FURST RANCH IN FLOWER MOUND, LOCATED ON ALL FOUR CORNERS OF THE INTERSECTION OF US 377 AND THE CROSS TIMBERS ROAD FARM ROUTE 1171.

IN ADDITION, CALL A SPECIAL ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THE UNIFORM ELECTION DATE IN MAY 2024 TO CONSIDER THE QUESTION OF ALLOWING A DISTRICT TO BE PLACED ON 1066 ACRES ZONED MIXED USE 544 ACRES ZONED SE, SF EXCUSE ME, SFE AND 165 ACRES ON THE FAR EAST SIDE OF FURST RANCH.

ALL OF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

MR. FURST, YOUR REQUEST FOR YOUR REQUEST, AND WE'LL WORK WITH TOWN STAFF ON THE NEXT STEPS.

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I'M NOT SURE IF I GOT THAT RIGHT.

GOOD EVENING MA'AM. GOOD EVENING MAYOR.

TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND.

MY NAME IS JORDAN DINKINS AND I RESIDE AT 2400 LAKESIDE PARKWAY, UNIT 206, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

I'M JOINING YOU HERE TONIGHT TO INTRODUCE MYSELF AS THE NEW CHIEF MARKETING OFFICER OF LAKESIDE.

AS CMO, I WILL BE I WILL BE COLLABORATING WITH EXISTING AND FUTURE LAKESIDE RESIDENTS, BUSINESS OWNERS, THE STUART FAMILY REALTY CAPITAL AND ITS PARTNERS TO CONTINUE TO SHARE OUT IN ALL THE WAYS IN WHICH WE ARE ENRICHING THE COMMUNITY OF LAKESIDE AND ULTIMATELY THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

AS A NATIVE OF DFW MYSELF RETURNING HOME AFTER MORE THAN 15 YEARS AWAY, I FEEL SO FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO RELOCATE TO SUCH A VIBRANT, WALKABLE, MIXED USE COMMUNITY WITHIN THE METROPLEX THAT IS LAKESIDE AND EXPERIENCE ALL THE POSITIVE LIFESTYLE BENEFITS FIRST HAND.

THE HISTORICAL SUCCESS OF LAKESIDE HAS BEEN MADE POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT AND PASSION OF THE GOOD PEOPLE OF FLOWER MOUND.

THE PROJECT IS ON TRACK TO EXPAND AT A STRONGER RATE THAN EVER BEFORE, WITH MORE THAN $1.5 BILLION IN EXTREMELY HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT LAND.

FOR IT TO BE SUCCESSFUL, WE HAVE TO GET THE WORD OUT AND PUT LAKESIDE ON THE MAP.

NO DIFFERENT TO THE HIGHLAND PARK VILLAGES OR THE LEGACY WEST DEVELOPMENTS ACROSS THE METRO.

I AM THRILLED TO BE A NEW MEMBER OF THE LAKESIDE AND BROADER COMMUNITY OF FLOWER MOUND, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SPEAKING WITH YOU AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE ABOUT ALL THE GREAT THINGS THAT LAKESIDE IS DOING TO ENHANCE THE LIVES OF ITS RESIDENTS AND DELIVER ON THE WANTS AND NEEDS OF THE LARGER FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

EXCELLENT, MA'AM. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MR. JOE BERNARD.

GOOD EVENING SIR. PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

JOE BERNARD 10605 SUNRISE CIRCLE, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, 76226.

I LIVE AT THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY RIGHT HERE.

YOU'LL SEE ABOVE. I'M HERE AGAIN TONIGHT.

YEAH, I'M SURE YOU'RE TIRED OF SEEING ME BY THIS POINT IN TIME.

I'M QUITE TIRED OF BEING HERE.

I STAND BEFORE YOU TONIGHT REQUESTING A CONTINUED SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN FOR MY COMMUNITY.

AS IT HAS BECOME NOW KNOWN, THERE IS A TIRZ POTENTIALLY BEING PLACED ON ALL THREE SIDES OF THIS COMMUNITY.

MR. JACK FURST OVER ON OUR EAST, THE TOWN OWNED PROPERTY RIGHT TO THE SOUTH AND CANYON FALLS TO THE WEST, ALL THREE SIDES.

THE CURRENT SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PLAN FOR THIS COMMUNITY IS INSUFFICIENT.

YOU, AS A TOWN COUNCIL, APPROVED APPROXIMATELY $480 $450,000 TO PUT A SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE LINE THROUGH PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THE SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE LINE CLEARLY NEEDS TO BE LARGER.

WE HAVE CONTINUED SEWAGE INFRASTRUCTURE PROBLEMS WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR PUBLIC WATER COMES FROM THE WATER WELL YOU CAN SEE ABOVE.

AS LISTED AS STATED BEFORE, WE'VE HAD CONTINUED SEWAGE FAILURES IN SYSTEMS SURROUNDING THE WATER WELL.

WE CURRENTLY HAVE ONE OPEN THAT HAS NOW BEEN OPEN FOR OVER A YEAR.

THESE ARE OUR TECQ WATER DATA TESTING FROM THAT WATER WELL THAT LIES WITHIN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND THAT SERVICES BOTH THE ETJ AND THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE'VE POPPED POSITIVE FOR TOTAL COLIFORM NUMEROUS TIMES THROUGHOUT THIS AND AS WELL WITHIN 2020 E COLI.

I DO BELIEVE THERE TO BE A CORRELATION BETWEEN THE NUMBER OF FAILING SEPTIC SYSTEMS WITHIN MY COMMUNITY AND THE POSITIVE FOR TOTAL COLIFORM OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND E COLI.

IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

WE ARE SURROUNDED BY NEW AND IMPROVED THINGS.

WE ARE LOOKING AT BEING PLACED NEAR AN AREA OF TIRZ.

I'M IN FAVOR OF MOST DEFINITELY.

THE TIRZ IS DESIGNED TO BRING NEW INFRASTRUCTURE TO THE AREA.

IN IMPLEMENTING A TIRZ FOR THE AREA, YOU AS A COUNCIL WOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE AREA CURRENTLY IS INSUFFICIENT.

THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR A TIRZ IF THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS SUFFICIENT.

WE WERE ANNEXED IN AT THE SAME TIME AS MR. FURST. IT JUST IS WHAT IT IS.

THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WITHIN THIS COMMUNITY WEREN'T TOO HAPPY ABOUT IT.

IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE.

WE NEED THESE SAME THINGS.

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WE NEED SEWAGE LINES.

WE NEED MORE THAN $450,000 TO GET IT DONE.

YOU WANT GREAT THINGS ALL AROUND US.

I'M IN FAVOR.

I'M IN FAVOR OF THIS BEING GREAT AS WELL.

YOU CANNOT HAVE ONE TURD IN THE MIDDLE OF SOMETHING GREAT JUST DOESN'T WORK.

THANK YOU, MR. BERNARD.

NEXT WE'LL HAVE MATTHEW HURST.

GOOD EVENING, TOWN COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MATTHEW HURST.

I LIVE AT 4158 MEADOWVIEW DRIVE, ARGYLE, TEXAS 76226.

MY COMMENTS ARE REVOLVING AROUND THE OCTOBER 5TH SUNRISE COMMUNITY MEETING.

MY COMMENTS ARE GOING TO BE PRETTY SHORT.

I ACTUALLY WANT TO EXTEND A THANK YOU TO MOST OF TOWN STAFF.

THAT WAS AN OUTSTANDING EVENT.

IT WAS WELL PLANNED.

IT WAS WELL EXECUTED.

A LOT OF HARD WORK AND TEAMWORK WENT INTO IT.

THANK YOU TO TOMMY DALTON FOR PLANNING MOST OF IT AND FOR EVERYONE ELSE WHO SHOWED UP.

A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WERE VERY THANKFUL AND WERE GLAD TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK WITH SOMEONE FROM THE CITY ABOUT THE SITUATION.

SO I COME WITH JUST A THANK YOU.

SO THANK YOU AGAIN, TOWN STAFF.

THANK YOU, MR. HURST.

ALL RIGHT. NEXT WE'LL HAVE MISS SWEETY BOWMAN.

GOOD EVENING, MR. MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL.

I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE.

THIS IS A LONG TIME COMING.

I'VE BEEN OUT OF THE PICTURE FOR A WHILE, BUT I'M BACK.

I'M NOT USING A CANE.

I'M WALKING, AND I'M HERE TO CELEBRATE OUR TOWN'S ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE ARTS AND WANT TO THANK TOWN COUNCILS, PAST AND PRESENT AND OUR STAFF, AND FOR FOR ALL OF THE AND THE GROUNDS PEOPLE ON THE PARKS AND REC FOR ALL THAT THEY DO TO MAKE OUR TOWN ONE OF THE I THINK IT'S THE FIRST NOW, AS OF TODAY, I READ IT OF TOWN OF CHOICE IN THE IN IN THE UNITED STATES.

IT'S SO THAT'S PRETTY BIG, AND NEXT MONTH AND I DON'T WANT TO JUMP THE JUMP THE ROPE HERE BUT IS ARTS MONTH FOR OUR TOWN.

AND BECAUSE OF THE CALENDAR FALLING WHERE IT DOES, WE WERE AS A MEMBER OF THE CROSS TIMBERS ARTISTS GUILD OPEN STUDIO TOUR, NOT ABLE TO GET IN ON THE ON THE VERY FIRST OF THE MONTH BEFORE YOUR ANNOUNCEMENT.

SO I'M HERE TO SHARE WITH YOU THAT OUR TOUR IS HAPPENING, OPENING ON NOVEMBER THE 3RD BETWEEN YOUR MEETINGS AND THE TOUR WILL BE ON THE 4TH AND 5TH FROM 10:00 TO 5:00 BOTH SATURDAY AND SUNDAY, AND THE OPENING IS AT ART HOUSE IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT ON THE EDGE UP THERE BY LOWE'S TOWARD HIGHLAND VILLAGE, AND IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, AND IT'S FREE AND IT'S CATERED BY [INAUDIBLE], AND WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS THIS YEAR, AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS IS SHOWING THAT SAME WEEKEND ON FRIDAY NIGHT AT THE SENIOR CITIZENS CENTER, AND WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO BE INVOLVED WITH THEM TO SOME EXTENT, AND WE HOPE TO EXTEND THAT INVOLVEMENT LATER AND IN LATER IN THE FUTURE, AND SO I HAVE SOME BROCHURES FOR THE TOUR AND THE MAPS ARE THERE, AND IT'S ONLINE AND ON SOCIAL MEDIA AS WELL, AND I WANT TO WELCOME ALL OF YOU TO COME AND SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING IN FLOWER MOUND IN THE ARTS, THE VISUAL ARTS.

THANK YOU. AWESOME.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU COMING.

THERESA DO WE HAVE ANY MORE GREEN COMMENT CARDS? IS THERE ANYONE LEFT IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, P LEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE, SIR.

WAS THAT A YES OR A NO? PUBLIC COMMENT? YES. PLEASE APPROACH THE PODIUM.

MAKE SURE YOU FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD AT THE CONCLUSION.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

HELLO, MY NAME IS.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN MAYOR, FOR HOLDING THIS.

I AM RONIC PATEL.

I AM HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF MY SMALL BUSINESS, FOUNTAIN PARK DENTAL.

WE ARE OPEN BY LAKESIDE IN THE FOUNTAIN PARK PLAZA AND I AM SPEAKING TODAY ABOUT OUR SIGNAGE.

WE ARE LOCATED OFF OF LONG PRAIRIE AND FOUNTAIN PARK.

FOUNTAIN PARK IS A PRIVATE STREET AND LONG PRAIRIE IS A ACCESS ROAD, SO THEY WILL ONLY LET ME ALLOW ME TO HAVE SIGNAGE ON ONE SIDE OF MY BUILDING, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE A

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PETER [INAUDIBLE] WE'RE TRYING TO CHANGE THAT TO FOUNTAIN PARK DENTAL SO PATIENTS CAN FIND US EASIER.

INSIDE THE PLAZA, THERE ARE THREE DENTAL PRACTICES, SO MOST OF OUR PATIENTS GO TO THE OTHER DENTAL LOCATIONS BEFORE COMING TO SEE US.

I WOULD ASK COUNCIL AND THE CHAMBER COMMUNITY HERE IF YOU COULD APPROVE DUAL SIGNAGE ON THE PUBLIC BUILDING ON THIS CORNER LOT.

I HAVE PICTURES IF YOU GUYS WANT TO SEE RENDERINGS THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED.

THERE ARE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES WITHIN FLOWER MOUND THAT HAVE PUT DUAL SIGNAGE THAT ARE IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS TO US.

I'VE APPROACHED THE DEVELOPMENT TEAM AND THEY'VE SAID IT'S EITHER ONE AN ERROR OR TWO ILLEGAL.

I'M TRYING TO DO THIS THE RIGHT WAY.

MAKE SURE WE GET PERMITTING BEFORE WE PUT THE SIGNAGE UP.

SO THAT WOULD BE MY ASK.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

THANK YOU, MR. PATEL. WE NOTED SOME OF YOUR COMMENTS, AND I'M SURE MR. CHILDERS AND MR. DALTON DID TOO.

SO WE'LL TRY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AFTER THE MEETING.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE.

PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.

AS A POINT OF ORDER, IS THERE ANYONE ON TOWN COUNCIL OR STAFF THAT WISHES TO MAKE ANY FACTUAL STATEMENTS REGARDING THE PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? MAYOR, JUST TO KEEP CONSISTENT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST WANT TO STRESS THE REFERENCE TO SUNRISE CIRCLE.

WE DO HAVE RESOURCES AVAILABLE ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.

IT'S VERY EASY TO FIND THAT CAN GIVE BETTER CONTEXT TO SOME OF THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE BEING MADE BY A COUPLE OF OUR SPEAKERS.

SO AGAIN, JUST WANT TO POINT EVERYBODY TO THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE WITH FULL CONTEXT AND ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE EFFORTS AND SOME OF THE ISSUES GOING ON IN SUNRISE CIRCLE.

THANK YOU, MR. CHILDERS.

WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM F ANNOUNCEMENTS, STARTING WITH MY RIGHT WITH MR.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

GO. YOU GO. RIGHT ON AHEAD, MRS. MARTIN. THE FRIENDS OF THE FLOWER MOUND LIBRARY ARE HAVING THEIR OCTOBER BOOK SALE THIS COMING WEEKEND, SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO COME TO THE EARLY BIRD SALE, SHOW UP AT 5:00 ON FRIDAY NIGHT WITH $5 FOR YOUR ENTRANCE FEE, AND THAT WILL BE TILL 7:00 AND THEN HOURS SATURDAY ARE 11 A.M.

UNTIL 5 P.M, AND SUNDAY 1 P.M.

TILL 4 P.M. SO HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE.

THANK YOU ANN, MR. ENGEL. JUST A REMINDER THAT NEXT MONDAY, THE 23RD STARTS EARLY VOTING AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF CONSTITUTIONAL STATE CONSTITUTIONAL ITEMS, AS WELL AS SOME SCHOOL BOARD ITEMS THAT VOTERS OUT THERE MAY BE INTERESTED IN.

GO AHEAD. YEAH.

SO WE'RE COMING UP TO HALLOWEEN THIS WEEKEND THE TOWN HAS A GLOWING PUMPKIN PLUNGE.

I'M TRYING TO ATTEND IT WE'LL SEE IF IT WORKS OUT WITH MY DAUGHTER OCTOBER 21ST.

ALSO, WE'VE GOT HALLOWEEN COMING UP.

SO AS HALLOWEEN IS IS GOING ON, MAKE SURE EVERYBODY SLOWS DOWN ON THE STREETS AND BE AND BE EXTRA CAREFUL BECAUSE KIDS WILL BE WALKING ON THE STREETS.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, MR. DREW. MR. TAYLOR. ALL RIGHT, SO I HAVE A COUPLE HERE.

SENIORS IN MOTION CRAFTS FAIR OCTOBER 21ST, 9 A.M.

TO 2 P.M. AT THE SENIOR CENTER.

UM, ALSO, AS MENTIONED EARLIER, DIWALI.

OCTOBER 28TH, AND THEN THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND VETERANS DAY CEREMONY WILL BE SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 5TH FROM 1:00 TO 3:00 FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL STADIUM. AND THEN, AS MR. DREW MENTIONED, WE'VE GOT THE GLOWING PUMPKIN CHALLENGE, THE WOLF-A-WEEN, AND THE HAUNTED LIBRARY.

SO CHECK OUT THE TOWN'S EVENT CALENDAR.

IT'S ACTUALLY FLOWER-MOUND.

COM/CALENDAR.

SO ALL THAT AND MORE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM G TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

APPRECIATE IT. I'VE GOT TWO QUICK ITEMS FOR YOU THIS EVENING.

THE FIRST OF WHICH IS AT THE SEPTEMBER 18TH MEETING YOU ALL APPROVED A HEALTH SCIENCE FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH A GROUP CALLED TRIPP UMBACH, AND THEIR FOCUS IS LOOKING INTO A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR EXPANDING ACADEMIC HEALTH SERVICES, SPECIFICALLY IN THE WESTERN PART OF OUR TOWN. ONE OF THE COMPONENTS IS THEY RAMP UP TO THAT PROCESS IS THEY'RE LOOKING TO HAVE A PARTICIPANT ON THE STUDY GROUP THAT'S A MEMBER OF THE TOWN COUNCIL, AND SO WHAT I WANTED TO GIVE TO THE GROUP TODAY TO SEE IF THERE'S ANY VOLUNTEERS OR IF HOWEVER, HOWEVER, MEANS YOU WANT TO GO ABOUT DOING THIS, IT'D BE GREAT TO GET A NAME OF A MEMBER OF TOWN COUNCIL THAT WOULD PARTICIPATE WITH THIS GROUP.

WE'RE ALSO GOING TO BE WORKING WITH THE COUNTY TO GET A PARTICIPANT FROM THEM AND OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO USE THIS TIME TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANYBODY WHO WAS WANTING TO VOLUNTEER FOR THAT ROLE, OR IF YOU ALL WANTED TO PULL STRAWS OR HOWEVER APPROACH I WANT TO TAKE.

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WHO'S RETIRED? I'M RETIRED. I'D BE HAPPY TO PARTICIPATE.

OKAY. I FIGURED AS MUCH.

I DIDN'T WANT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS, THOUGH.

OKAY. SO THAT'S GREAT.

WE'LL SUBMIT THAT INFORMATION AND THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO BE RAMPING UP, AND WE'LL KEEP YOU APPRIZED OF I THINK THE GENERAL TARGET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, RAY, IS FEBRUARY/MARCH IS AROUND THE TIMEFRAME WE LOOKED TO HAVE THEIR WORK WRAPPED UP, AND SO THIS IS AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO PULL SOME KEY DATA THAT WILL PUT US IN A POSITION TO WORK WITH THE STATE TO BRING IN SOME ACADEMIC HEALTH ACADEMIC SERVICES TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

THE SECOND ONE IS A RECOGNITION FOR OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT.

OCTOBER IS NATIONAL COMMUNITY PLANNING MONTH, AND WE ALSO WANT TO PLUG LEXIN, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DIRECTOR, AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN RECOGNIZED WITH THE PLANNING EXCELLENCE AWARD FOR THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW, AND I THINK IT'S SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, LEXIN JUST DOES AN IMPECCABLE JOB.

I THINK WE TAKE FOR GRANTED THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT OUR PLANNING STAFF HAS TO DO, AND I KNOW YOU'LL AGREE WITH ME, THEY'RE ALWAYS ON TOP OF EVERYTHING PROFESSIONAL, STRAIGHTFORWARD, NOT JUST PRESENTING INFORMATION TO YOU ALL AS WELL AS OUR P&Z, BUT ALSO WORKING WITH OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO IT'D BE REMISS IF WE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THEM FOR GETTING THIS DISTINGUISHED AWARD HERE FOR THE FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW, AND ALSO JUST NOT JUST THE WORK WE DO AS A STAFF, BUT ALSO WITH OUR P&Z MEMBERS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE STAY UP WITH OUR I DON'T KNOW IF [INAUDIBLE] [INAUDIBLE] CONTINUING EDUCATION AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO AGAIN JUST WANT TO OVERALL RECOGNIZING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT MONTH.

I JUST WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR PLANNING, OUR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT IS DOING.

THANK YOU, MR. CHILDERS, AND FOR OUR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR VOLUNTEERING FOR ANOTHER TOWN TASK AND COMMITTEE, BASICALLY.

SO MOVING ON TO ITEM H FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS.

[H. FUTURE AGENDA ITEM(S)]

DOES ANYBODY WISH TO BRING ANY ITEMS FORWARD TONIGHT? I HAVE ONE, MR. SCHIESTEL. GO AHEAD. I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM SO WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION AROUND PUBLIC ART INSTALLATIONS.

SO THIS WOULD CONSIST OF DISCUSSION AROUND WHAT KIND OF IDEAS WE MIGHT WANT TO SUPPORT, HOW THEY MIGHT BE FUNDED, AND WHAT KIND OF MAINTENANCE WE MIGHT EXPECT, AND THE REASON WHY I WANT TO DO THIS.

IT'S NOT A RUSH ITEM.

IT'S MORE ABOUT GETTING SOMETHING, A DISCUSSION AROUND THAT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE SO THAT WE COULD PREPARE A DECISION PACKAGE IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT. DID [INAUDIBLE] SET YOU UP FOR THAT? NO. SHE HAPPENED TO JUST BE HERE.

ANYONE ELSE FROM COUNCIL? I MEAN, I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND I THINK IF WE COULD LOOP IN THE MURAL'S DISCUSSION INTO THAT AGAIN, BECAUSE THAT'S PUBLIC ART.

SO I'M TOTALLY SUPPORTIVE OF THAT, NOT THAT MY VOTE COUNTS, BUT WE'LL JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.

YEAH. GREAT. IS THAT GOOD? ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALL IN CONSENT TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, JAMES.

SO IF WE COULD WORK ON THAT, PROBABLY COUPLE OF WORK SESSIONS DOWN THE ROAD.

I HAVE ONE. OH.

SO MR. FURST BROUGHT UP THE PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT AND LET'S PUT IT ON AGENDA.

HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT IT, EDUCATE THE PUBLIC AND SEE WHERE SHE GOES.

I'M CONCERNED THAT WE WERE BEING PREMATURE WITH THE TIRZ OUTSTANDING.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHOUT COMPLETE INFORMATION, AND I THINK WITH THE TIR IS NOT RESOLVED, WE'RE NOT DELIBERATING WITH COMPLETE INFORMATION, AND WE SHOULD HOLD OFF ON THIS UNTIL THAT IS COMPLETED.

WELL, I'D SAY THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT ITEMS BECAUSE ONE IS IS IS BASICALLY DEBT THAT'S BEING TAKEN ON FOR A PARTICULAR PROJECT BY THAT WILL BE PAID BACK BY THE ULTIMATE LANDOWNERS IN THAT AREA, AND THE OTHER ONE IS TAX INCREMENT, AND THE OTHER FACT OF THE MATTER IS IF WE DELAY IT ANY MORE.

I DON'T THINK IT DOES WELL FOR A MAY 2024 ELECTION.

I DON'T WANT TO RISK THAT.

WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT.

ALL WE'RE DOING IS IS HAVING A DISCUSSION ON IT, ON A FUTURE ITEM SIMILAR TO YOUR PUBLIC ART.

WELL, I THINK IT NEEDS TO GO ON A WORK SESSION, THOUGH, BEFORE IT JUST COMES ON A REGULAR AGENDA.

YEAH. WELL, COULD STAFF ELABORATE ON HOW THAT PROCESS WOULD LOOK.

SO THE WAY WE'RE YOU GUYS APPROVED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON NOVEMBER 6TH.

SO THAT WILL BE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE CREATION POTENTIALLY OF TIRZ NUMBER TWO AND APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY FINANCING PLAN IT DOES NOT LOCK US INTO ANYTHING OBLIGATE. THERE'S NO FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH ANY PERSON WHO'S IN THE TIRZ.

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WE WOULD LOOK AT THE NOVEMBER 16TH WORK SESSION TO JUST HAVE A DISCUSSION ON.

IT'S NOT GOING TO BE AN ACTION ITEM AT THAT PARTICULAR TIME, AND SO COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ADDRESSES YOUR CONCERN ABOUT BY THAT POINT, THE THE CREATION OF THE TIRZ WILL BE VOTED AT THAT POINT BY THE TIME WE BRING IT IN WITH A WORK SESSION, OBVIOUSLY, NOTWITHSTANDING, IF A FORMAL DA OR TERTIARY AGREEMENT IS MADE WITH AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT'S GOING TO BE AT A LATER POINT DOWN THE ROAD.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE SPEAKING TO THE CREATION OR FORMAL AGREEMENT WITH ANY ENTITY WITHIN THE TIRZ DISTRICT.

I BELIEVE THE PARAMETERS OF THE DA COULD IMPACT THE WAY SOMEONE FEELS ABOUT THE PID.

SO THE PID CONVERSATION SHOULD BE HELD OFF UNTIL THE TIRZ DA IS COMPLETE.

THAT'S MY OPINION. I THINK THAT'S TOO LATE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION.

IT IS. I THINK WE CAN, AFTER OUR DISCUSSION, WE CAN SUGGEST WHAT THE NEXT STEP IS TOWARD A DECISION, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AS MUCH TIME AS POSSIBLE TO CONTEMPLATE THE ISSUE.

I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IT SOONER, AND IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE ANY DECISIONS ON A PID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK WE'RE READY FOR THAT, AND RIGHT NOW, BUT MUCH LIKE WITH THE TIRZ HAVING THE EDUCATION, EXCUSE ME, EDUCATIONAL WORK SESSION TO EDUCATE US AS COUNCIL AND THE PUBLIC ON WHAT THAT WOULD ENTAIL FOR A PID, THE PROS, THE CONS, WHAT IT DOES, WHAT IT DOES NOT DO.

I'D BE OKAY WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S A WORK SESSION ITEM.

THAT'S NOT THE PROPOSAL THOUGH THE PROPOSAL IS A FUTURE AGENDA ITEM FOR THIS PID TO DECIDE WHETHER TO PUT IT ON THE MAY BALLOT.

THAT'S THE FUTURE AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.

THAT'S WHAT WAS PROPOSED.

WHAT I HEARD WAS AN EDUCATION SESSION.

THIS WOULD GO ON A WORK SESSION.

SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE ANOTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEM YEAH. SO THE WAY THAT THE CHARTER IS WRITTEN, YOU KNOW, THE ACTION ITEM IS THE APPROVAL OF THE PID AND IT'S PENDING THE APPROVAL OF THE VOTERS AT A LATER DATE. SO WHAT'S CONTEMPLATED TO THIS POINT, UNTIL WE GET FURTHER DIRECTION, IS TO HAVE A WORK SESSION, DISCUSSION, MORE EDUCATION, ANSWERING QUESTIONS ON A PID, NOT NOT THE ACTUAL ITEM OF CREATING A PID.

YEAH, WE DO HAVE JUST WE HAVE THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO IT.

SO CAN WE, CAN WE GET IT ON NOVEMBER 16TH FOR THE WORK SESSION? YES. IT'S TOO.

IT'S TOO LATE TO PUT IT ON.

WE HAVE A WORK SESSION THIS WEEK THAT'S OBVIOUSLY TOO SOON, SO WE WILL LOOK AT NOVEMBER 16TH.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SIR.

ANY OTHER FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS. ALL RIGHT, MOVING ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS.

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING WE WERE JUST DISCUSSING MIGHT BE A COMBO.

SO LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR DIRECTION ON, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE 16TH AGENDA WE JUST TALKED ABOUT DISCUSSION. IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE VILLAGE CHURCH SITE PLAN, THE RIVERWALK PROMENADE, THE CACHET SALON AT LAKESIDE, AND THE HEINZ CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT.

DO WE WANT TO ADD CHARTER REVIEW, SIGN ORDINANCE, SPECIAL EVENTS? DO WE WANT TO PUSH THOSE OFF UNTIL DECEMBER? MAYOR, IF I MAY IF I MAY, YES, PLEASE.

BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I THREW A LOT OUT IN THOSE NOTES.

YOU DID. THERE'S SEVEN BULLETS THERE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT, AND TOMMY CAN CHIME IN IF NEED BE, BUT THE PLANNING ITEMS WERE GOING TO BE ON THE 20TH IF WE HAD THAT MEETING, THE ONES THAT YOU MENTIONED, THE VILLAGE CHURCH, THE RIVERWALK PROMENADE, AND A COUPLE OF OTHERS.

SO THE QUESTION TO COUNCIL TO GET FEEDBACK ON IS, IN ADDITION TO THE WORK SESSION ITEMS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE CHARTER REVIEW AND THOSE PERMITTING ITEMS, ARE YOU ALL YOU ALL OKAY WITH BRINGING THE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS, AS YOU JUST MENTIONED ON THAT MEETING AS WELL, ARE HAVING THOSE MOVE FORWARD TO DECEMBER 4TH BECAUSE IT IMPACTS HOW THE P&Z MEETING GETS POSTED AND THOSE AGENDA ITEMS. WHAT I WOULD ADD THERE IS IT WOULD BE A REALLY QUICK TURNAROUND, AND SO WE'D BE POSTING AN AGENDA WITHOUT THE P&Z VOTE.

TO OUR KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOTHING ON THOSE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS THAT IS EXTREMELY PRESSING.

WE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE COUNCIL WAS AWARE THAT BY CANCELLATION OF THAT NOVEMBER MEETING, IT THEN PUSHES THOSE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS ANOTHER TWO WEEKS OUT.

SO THEN ESSENTIALLY WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE SORT OF A COMBO MEETING.

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REGULAR MEETING. COUNCIL THOUGHTS? I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE.

WE MIGHT AS WELL CALL SOME RULES.

I MEAN, WE CANCELED THE MEETING ON THE 20TH, SO LET'S GO FOR IT ON THE.

YEAH. AS LONG AS THERE'S FAMILY DINNER AND WE WON'T VOTE ON THE PID.

YEAH. NO.

OH, I'M SORRY LEXIN.

IS THIS ON? YEAH, IT IS NOW.

ADAM TOOK CARE OF YOU. SO JUST TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNEW HOW THAT WAS GOING TO WORK AND WAS COMFORTABLE WITH IT, SO WE WOULD HAVE TO POST THE P&Z PACKET.

NO, WE'D HAVE TO POST THE COUNCIL PACKET BEFORE THE ITEMS ACTUALLY GO TO P&Z.

SO WE WOULD.

WE WOULD JUST POST, I GUESS, ALL THE INFORMATION AS IT STOOD BEFORE THE P&Z MEETING, AND THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY UPDATE THE PACKET ON THAT TUESDAY WITH THE VOTES THAT CAME OUT OF THE P&Z MEETING, IF THERE WERE ANY.

IF THERE WERE ANY ACTUAL CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCES, THAT COULD BE TROUBLESOME, BUT WE COULD WE COULD SEE IF THAT COMES UP OR NOT, BUT IT'S WE'VE NEVER WE'VE NEVER DONE IT IN THAT CLOSE A TIMELINE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY WAS AWARE OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK.

IT WOULD BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PUBLIC IS USED TO AS FAR AS RECEIVING NOTICE OF ITEMS. I'M KIND OF LEANING TOWARDS JUST PUT EVERYTHING ON THE 4TH, JUST BECAUSE IT GIVES PEOPLE A LEAD TIME TO SEE WHAT GETS APPROVED OR DENIED ON THE 13TH.

JUST BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY QUICK TURNAROUND TO THE 16TH.

SO IN THAT CASE, THE WORK SESSION WOULD JUST BE A WORK SESSION.

YEAH. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE WE'D HAVE A LONG DECEMBER 4TH, BUT WE WOULD HAVE A LONG DECEMBER 16TH.

SO ARE THERE ANY OF THE ITEMS THAT THERE'S ANY ISSUES ON TIMING LEXIN? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

NO, I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THE APPLICANTS.

IT'S NOT THAT THEY MIGHT SAY THAT THEY WOULD LIKE IT TO BE HEARD SOONER.

SO IT'S NOT THAT THEY ALL SAID, OH, WE DON'T CARE WHENEVER YOU ALL GET TO IT IS FINE, BUT LIKE A COUPLE OF THOSE MIGHT BE.

I'M SORRY. IT SEEMS LIKE A COUPLE OF THOSE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN GETTING IT, PUSHING IT FORWARD, BUT MAYBE THAT'S JUST THE IMPRESSION I GOT FROM TALKING TO THEM AND THAT THEY'RE NOT THAT.

YEAH, LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEAK FOR THEM.

NOT TO SAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT LIKE IT TO BE HEARD SOONER.

I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY SPECIFIC DEADLINES THAT THIS WOULD VIOLATE.

WELL, I JUST ASSUMED COUNCIL CONSIDERED, YOU KNOW, DOING THE TOWN'S BUSINESS SOONER THAN LATER INSTEAD OF WAITING AND KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU GUYS TO DECIDE. REALLY. I'D RATHER I'M NOT GOING TO FORCE IT ON AN AGENDA.

SO I DO SHARE MR. DREW'S CONCERN ABOUT THE THE DECREASED TIME TURN TIME, NOT JUST FROM THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION, BUT IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT STAFF HAS TO DO THAT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A LOT OF TIME TO, TO PLAN AND PREPARE FOR THAT.

DO YOU WANT TO CONSIDER BRINGING BACK THE NOVEMBER 20TH MEETING? I'LL BE GONE. NO.

OKAY. I MEAN, YOU GUYS.

I'LL BE HERE. I'LL BE HERE, BUT IS THERE A PROBLEM IF WE POST SOMETHING ON AN AGENDA? AND THEN TO LEXIN POINT, LEXIN'S POINT.

IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, WE CAN REMOVE IT AND POSTPONE IT.

SO IF IT'S ALL SMOOTH SAILING AND NOBODY NEEDS ANY EXTRA TIME, WE CAN JUST GO FORWARD, BUT IF THEY DO NEED EXTRA TIME, THEN WE CAN SAY, OH, WE WANT TO POSTPONE OR TABLE T HAT. I LIKE THAT. THAT'S POSSIBLE.

YEAH. WOULD THE APPLICANT HAVE TO DECIDE ON THAT? YEAH, THAT WE WOULD.

TO YOUR POINT, IT WOULD WE WOULD JUST ASK YOU TO TABLE IT IF THERE WAS A DELAY SO IT WOULD STILL SHOW UP ON THE AGENDA.

BRYN, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE STRAIGHT AND NARROW HERE? I MEAN, IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE JUST BEEN WAITING FOR COUNCIL.

ABSOLUTELY. SO LEXIN'S SUMMARY IS ACCURATE, SO WE COULD PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN YOU COULD TABLE THE ITEM.

WE CAN ALWAYS SUPPLEMENT THE PACKET WITHIN 72 HOURS.

THAT DOESN'T VIOLATE THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT.

SO IF WE GET ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ASSUMING STAFF HAS TIME TO DO IT, THAT COULD BE SUPPLEMENTED.

SO YOU ALL WOULD KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THE VOTE WHEN YOU TOOK IT UP THAT ON THAT THURSDAY.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S HOW WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD, GUYS IF THE APPLICANT IS READY AND COUNCIL IS READY TO MOVE FORWARD, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE A COMBO MEETING AND GET THE BUSINESS DONE. SO.

OKAY. MAY I ADD ONE MORE THING REGARDING THE SIGN ORDINANCE.

THAT IS WORK SESSION.

YES. JUST A FOLLOW UP FROM THE SPEAKER EARLIER TODAY, DR.

PATEL. I KNOW THAT HE HAD REACHED OUT TO SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS.

COUNCIL MEMBER DREW HAD BROUGHT THAT SIGN ORDINANCE UP AS PART OF DISCUSSION.

SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC ISSUE, AS WELL AS OTHER SIGN ISSUES THAT THE COUNCIL WANTS TO TALK ABOUT DURING THAT WORK SESSION TO GET DIRECTION.

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MOVING ON TO CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

DOES ANYONE ELSE WISH TO MOVE ANY OTHER CONSENT ITEMS TO THE REGULAR AGENDA ITEMS? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEMS ONE THROUGH EIGHT.

I MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS J ONE THROUGH J EIGHT AS PRESENTED.

SECOND. THAT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCIL MEMBER DREW.

I BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW IF YOUR MICROPHONE WAS ON THERESA.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

VOTE. MOVING ON TO REGULAR ITEMS. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT ACTUALLY IS PRINTED AS NUMBER FOUR.

WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT UP TO NUMBER ONE.

UH, PARDON ME WHILE I FLIP MY PAGES.

ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN.

[J.9. Economic Development Strategic Plan - Consider approval of a Professional Services Agreement with TIP Strategies, Inc. for an Economic Development Strategic Plan in Flower Mound, in an amount not to exceed $160,000; and authorization for the Mayor to execute same on behalf of the Town. ]

GOOD EVENING GENTLEMEN.

GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, FOR HAVING US UP HERE TONIGHT.

WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS.

Y'ALL HAD TO APPROVE THIS IN THE BUDGET EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE PRESENTATION ON THE PROPOSAL.

YOU'VE ALL HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ THE PROPOSAL AND SEE THAT ALREADY.

TIP STRATEGIES IS A PRIVATE COMPANY IN AUSTIN.

THEY I'VE KNOWN TOM.

I'VE KNOWN TOM FOR ABOUT 21 YEARS, MET HIM PROFESSIONALLY AROUND 2002.

HE'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS SINCE 1990, SEEN AS ONE OF THE TOP PEOPLE FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN THE IN THE COUNTRY.

HIS TEAM INCLUDES THE PEOPLE THAT YOU SEE HERE TRACIE MCDANIELS, JON ROBERTS AND JEFF MARCELL.

JON ROBERTS AND TOM HAVE DONE TWO OF THE PROJECTS HERE IN FLOWER MOUND THAT ARE HE'LL TALK MORE ABOUT WHEN HE GETS UP HERE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AS WELL.

IN THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, THE FIRST PART OF THE PROJECT WOULD BE TO DO A DISCOVERY, AND AS YOU CAN SEE THERE, IT WOULD START WITH THE PROJECT LAUNCH AND THEN LOOKING AT PLANNING ECONOMIC CONTEXT AS WELL AS STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT, AND IN THAT STAKEHOLDER ENGAGEMENT THAT WOULD INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND THEN ALSO STAFF TO SEE WHAT WHAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS WHERE WE'RE GOING FORWARD, AND THEN LOOKING AT COMPETITIVE POSITIONING, HOW WE FIT INTO THE OVERALL DFW MARKET AS A WHOLE, AND THEN LOOKING AT SOME DISCOVERY WORKSHOPS THERE.

THE OPPORTUNITY WOULD BE TO CREATE A STRATEGIC DIRECTION FOR US AS A AS A DEPARTMENT, BUT ALSO AS A TOWN AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN LOOK AT BOTH OUR TALENT PIPELINE.

THIS WILL BE DONE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE STUDY THAT MR. CHILDERS TALKED ABOUT A WHILE AGO WITH TRIPP UMBACH.

BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL BE A MAJOR PART OF OUR FUTURE GROWTH WITH THE MEDICAL HEALTH SCIENCES DIRECTION AS WELL, AND THEN LOOKING AT OUR BUILT ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS, AS WELL AS CASE STUDIES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE WORKSHOPS.

ON THE IMPLEMENTATION, THERE WILL BE A STRATEGIC PLAN WHICH WILL ALSO HAVE AN IMPLEMENTATION MATRIX, AND THEN THE FINAL DELIVERABLES WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN AND THAT WILL BE DETERMINED HOW THAT IS DONE AS WE WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE EXPECT THAT TO FIRST OF ALL BE ACTUAL HAND DELIVERABLES AS WELL AS A PRESENTATION BACK TO THIS BODY AND WE WILL WORK ON THAT AS WELL.

FINAL PRESENTATION WITH WORKSHOPS.

CONSULTING FEE IS $30,000 UPON AUTHORIZATION OF THE PROJECT, AND THEN $20,000 IN 6 MONTH INSTALLMENTS WITH A NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 EXPENSE THAT WILL BE PRE-APPROVED BEFORE THAT EXPENSE HAPPENS, AND WITH THAT, I'LL TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OR CAN BRING MR. STELLMAN UP HERE TO TALK TO YOU ALL.

THANK YOU, MR. WATSON. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR RAY? ALL RIGHT, SIR. MR. STELLMAN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS.

I HAVE A VERY BRIEF PRESENTATION AND I'LL TRY TO LEAVE SOME SPACE FOR QUESTIONS.

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OUR FIRM IS MADE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING PRACTITIONERS.

SO WE'VE KIND OF BEEN IN THE SHOES OF THE STAFF THAT'S HERE THAT'S CHARGED WITH CARRYING A PLAN OUT.

ALSO, I'D SAY THAT I STARTED IN A VERY TRADITIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I WORKED FOR THE STATE OF TEXAS AND WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR HELPING TEXAS BRING IN NEW INDUSTRY AND WORKING WITH THOSE INDUSTRY AND TAKING THEM AROUND THE STATE, AND WHEN I STARTED OUR FIRM IN 1995, THAT'S WHAT I DID.

I WORKED WITH GROUPS AROUND THE STATE AND HELPED THEM BRING IN NEW INDUSTRY, BUT KIND OF RECOGNIZED OVER TIME THAT IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO BRING IN INDUSTRY.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE BASICALLY A COMMUNITY THAT HAS OTHER ELEMENTS.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WORKFORCE.

YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE A QUALITY OF PLACE THAT ATTRACTS PEOPLE TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS THAT'S IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND SO WE TAKE A VERY HOLISTIC APPROACH.

I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'VE DONE AND BEEN IN BUSINESS AS LONG AS WE HAVE AND DONE AS MUCH WORK AS WE'VE DONE IN TEXAS, IS THAT WE'RE NOT JUST ABOUT FILLING UP A BUSINESS PARK, WE'RE ABOUT MAKING A SUSTAINABLE AND HEALTHY ECONOMY WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES THAT WE WORK.

THAT'S A PRIORITY FOR US.

WE HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1995.

I DON'T MEAN TO MAKE THIS A COMMERCIAL, BUT WE ARE FORTUNATE.

IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WE'VE BEEN WE'VE DONE WORK FOR DENTON, THE CITY OF ARLINGTON.

WE'RE ON OUR SECOND OR THIRD PROJECT WITH IRVING.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE UNDER CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS TO ESTABLISH A REDEVELOPMENT CORPORATION SO THAT THEY CAN SUPPORT DEVELOPMENT IN COMMUNITIES THAT ARE TYPICALLY UNDERSERVED, AND RIGHT NOW, I'M LEADING A PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF FORT WORTH.

THEY'VE ASKED US TO HELP THEM SET UP ESSENTIALLY A GLOBAL AFFAIRS OFFICE SIMILAR TO WHAT DALLAS HAS.

THEY WANT TO THEY WANT TO UP THEIR GAME IN TERMS OF HOW THEY'RE POSITIONING THEMSELVES WITHIN THE METROPLEX, AND WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH PROBABLY ABOUT 30 OR 40 OTHER METROPLEX METROPLEX AREA COMMUNITIES, SUCH AS SOUTHLAKE AND DENTON AND ROCKWALL.

AND I COULD GO DOWN THE LIST, BUT ONCE AGAIN, I DIDN'T MEAN THIS TO BE A COMMERCIAL.

I THINK A LOT OF THAT IS IN YOUR IN THE PROPOSAL THAT WE GAVE YOU GUYS, AND WE DO HAVE A STAFF OF 23 PEOPLE.

WE ARE BASED IN AUSTIN, BUT LIKE MANY COMPANIES NOW, I HAVE HALF HALF OF MY TEAM SCATTERED ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

MY RESEARCH DIRECTOR IS BASED OUT OF BOSTON AND ONE OF MY PARTNERS IS BASED OUT OF SEATTLE.

SO THE PROJECT ITSELF IS A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AS RAY HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE A THREE PHASE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH, AND I ALWAYS GET ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ABOUT YOU'VE WORKED WITH THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES.

ARE WE GOING TO GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT? AND MY RESPONSE IS WE APPLY THE SAME PROCESS, BUT THE RESULTS ARE ALMOST ALWAYS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE FINDINGS ARE DIFFERENT.

THE PRODUCT THAT YOU HAVE TO OFFER, THE LEADERSHIP IN THE COMMUNITY IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS, AND SOMETIMES THE GOALS ARE DIFFERENT.

YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR TAX BASED DIVERSIFICATION.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ENHANCING THE ECONOMY THROUGH HEALTH CARE OR THROUGH EDUCATION OR THROUGH BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, YOU KNOW EACH COMMUNITY IS THINKING A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY ABOUT WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE.

WE HAVE A SCHEDULE.

OUR HOPE IS IF YOU APPROVE TONIGHT, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO KICK THIS OFF IN NOVEMBER.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WITH THE OTHER STUDY THAT'S GOING ON FOR US TO BE ABLE TO COORDINATE EFFORTS, BUT OURS IS VERY DIFFERENT.

OURS IS A MUCH MORE BROADER AND HOLISTIC AS OPPOSED TO JUST LOOKING AT HEALTH CARE.

WE'LL BE LOOKING AT HOW YOU STACK UP WITH OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE REGION.

WE'RE VERY DATA DRIVEN.

WE WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS.

WE WANT TO SEE HOW YOU HOW YOU STACK UP SO THAT YOU GUYS HAVE THE INFORMATION TO MAKE GOOD, GOOD DECISIONS, SO I WILL I WILL TRY TO REMEMBER HOW TO USE POWERPOINT.

WE DO HAVE A ROBUST ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, AS RAY SAID, YOU KNOW, WE LIKE TO TALK TO THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY.

WE WANT TO TALK TO EDUCATION.

WE WANT TO TALK TO CITY STAFF, BUT WE'RE ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DID WORK IN SOUTHLAKE, WE WERE INVOLVED WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS BECAUSE THEY DROVE A LOT OF THE DECISIONS THAT WERE BEING MADE IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE, WE LISTENED TO THE TYPES OF COMPANIES THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, THE TYPES OF BUSINESS, THE TYPE OF GROWTH THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN OR NOT IN CERTAIN CASES.

SO WE TAKE THAT VERY SERIOUSLY, AND AS RAY ALSO MENTIONED, WE DELIVER NOT JUST A STUDY, BUT AN ACTUAL IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY THAT THE STAFF AND THE CITY WORK WITH OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

IT'S REALLY IT'S NOT EVERYTHING IS GOING TO FALL ON THE CITY.

THERE WILL BE OTHER GROUPS THAT WILL BE POINTED OUT IN THIS PLAN THAT CAN PLAY A ROLE, THAT WILL BE ENGAGED.

IS THERE FUNDING THAT'S GOING TO BE REQUIRED? WHO NEEDS TO DO IT? WHO NEEDS TO LEAD IT?

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YEAH, YEAH. SO I DIDN'T MEAN TO SHARE ANOTHER PRESENTATION WITH YOU, BUT THIS WAS JUST MEANT TO BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE WOULD PROVIDE.

SO I'M DEFINITELY OPEN TO QUESTIONS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MR. STELLMAN. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? UH, MR. STELLMAN SO I'M THE ONE WHO PULLED THIS, AND I PULLED IT BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF MONEY TO STUDY SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ALREADY DOING A PRETTY GOOD JOB ON, AND I'M SKEPTICAL OF THE NEED.

WHAT ARE WE NOT DOING THAT WE NEED TO SPEND $150,000 ON A STUDY TO FIND OUT MORE ABOUT.

YEAH, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION COUNCIL MEMBER.

THE DIFFERENTIATOR, I THINK, IN DOING THE PLANNING WORK IS TYPICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE BEEN DOING WELL UP TO THIS POINT AND YOU'RE LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO SEE GROWTH COMING YOUR WAY, BUT IS IT THE KIND OF GROWTH THAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN, ARE YOU PLANNING IN THE RIGHT WAY, OR DO YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TOOLS IN PLACE TO ATTRACT THAT GROWTH? ARE YOU ANTICIPATING TRENDS THAT WILL SHOW UP IN THE DATA IN A WAY THAT WILL ALLOW YOU GUYS TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS? I MEAN, YOU'RE ABOUT TO MAKE A LOT OF DECISIONS AND A LOT OF INVESTMENT AND HAVING GOOD INFORMATION AND MAKING SURE THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE COMMUNITY IS KIND OF ON THE SAME PAGE AND IS EDUCATED ABOUT THAT INFORMATION, I THINK RESULTS IN A MUCH SMARTER PLANNING EFFORT.

AND SO THE RELATIVE COST TO WHAT WE HELP FACILITATE VERSUS THE AMOUNT OF INVESTMENT AND MAKING SMARTER INVESTMENTS IN THE WAY THAT YOU GO, I FEEL LIKE IS WHERE WE ADD WE ADD A TON OF VALUE. ANYONE ELSE? YES. YOU MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT GOAL SETTING AND HOW THE OUTCOME OF THE STUDY IS OFTEN DIFFERENT, BASED IN PART ON THE GOALS.

WHO'S INVOLVED IN ESTABLISHING THOSE? AND CAN YOU GIVE US SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES GOALS? YEAH. SO THE WHO'S INVOLVED TYPICALLY IF THIS IS A CITY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT'S GOING TO BE ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, THEN IT'S A STAFF RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THE INPUT PROCESS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE YOU GUYS, BUT ULTIMATELY YOU'RE MAKING THAT DECISION ABOUT ARE THESE THE RIGHT GOALS, AND YOU KNOW THEIR GOALS DENTON UP THE ROAD ESSENTIALLY ADOPTED SUSTAINABILITY GOALS WITHIN THEIR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IS A VERY PROGRESSIVE THING TO DO, BUT THEY WERE LOOKING AT WHO ARE WE CONTRACTING WITH? ARE WE BRINGING IN LEED CERTIFIED TYPE BUILDINGS? ARE WE IS OUR INFRASTRUCTURE READY FOR THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'RE BRINGING IN? AND SO THEY SET GOALS AROUND ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE ACTUALLY MATCHING UP WITH OUR ABILITY TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT WE'RE WE'RE INTERESTED IN WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY? I WORK ON A NUMBER OF WORKFORCE PROJECTS.

I'M DOING ONE RIGHT NOW FOR THE NORTH CENTRAL TEXAS WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR 14 COUNTY.

I'M FACILITATING A STAFF SESSION ON THURSDAY MORNING IN ARLINGTON.

YOU KNOW, AND THEIR GOALS ARE ABOUT TOUCH POINTS WITH WORKERS AND MAKING SURE THAT TRAINING IS BEING DONE, AND SO THEY SET THEIR GOALS INTERNALLY, BUT SOME OF THEIR GOALS ARE ALSO FEDERALLY MANDATED AND STATE MANDATED, AND SO I GOT LOTS OF GOALS IF YOU'D WANT TO HEAR MORE, BUT THAT'S GOOD. THANK YOU. OKAY.

YEAH. NO, THAT WAS GOOD. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THINKING WHEN ANN WAS ASKING THE QUESTION.

SO THE TOWN ALREADY HAS SORT OF A THE TOWN STRATEGIC PLAN, RIGHT? WE PUT A LOT OF EFFORT INTO THAT.

WE'VE DONE SOME RETREATS AND EVERYTHING.

COUNCILS PUT A LOT OF TIME INTO THAT.

SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS COINCIDING WITH SORT OF THE DIRECTION AND OF COURSE WITH COUNCIL INPUT.

YOU CAN'T HAVE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR MR. STELLMAN OR MR. WATSON. THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION.

SO JUST TO GET TO THE POINT OF WHAT ANN WAS ASKING ABOUT STAKEHOLDERS, IT'S IN THE CONTRACT IT SAYS ROUND TABLES ARE DESIGNED TO ENCOURAGE PRODUCTIVE DISCUSSIONS AROUND A TARGETED SET OF TOPICS. THEY ARE TYPICALLY CONDUCTED WITH EMPLOYERS, ELECTED OFFICIALS, HUMAN RESOURCE SPECIALISTS, REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS, CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND OTHER EXPERTS NOT MENTIONED AS THE PUBLIC, AND I I'M NOT AGAINST STUDIES.

I MEAN, SOMETIMES I THINK THEY'RE UNNECESSARY OFTEN, BUT YOU KNOW, THE HEALTH SCIENCE FEASIBILITY STUDY THAT WE FUNDED TWO MEETINGS AGO, VERY SPECIFIC, VERY GOOD INVESTMENT.

THIS IS VERY NONSPECIFIC.

WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE $150,000 DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE NOT REALLY COMFORTABLE WITH, THAT THE PUBLIC IS SAYING THIS ISN'T REALLY WHAT WE'RE AFTER.

IT'S GIVING US DIRECTION ON HOW TO DIVERSIFY THE TAX BASE AND THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY BEING ASKED TO DO BY THE PUBLIC, WHO IS OFTEN SKEPTICAL, AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO END UP FILING IT AWAY AND NOT REALLY HAVE MUCH TO SHOW FOR IT.

I THINK THIS HAPPENED IN THE PAST.

I WOULD POINT TO THE CULTURAL ARTS STUDY THAT WE DID THAT TOLD US WE WERE GOING TO HAVE SHOWS SIX NIGHTS A WEEK AND MAKE A TON OF MONEY, AND IT WAS RIDICULOUS, AND I'M A LITTLE

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WE'RE OUR TEAM DOES A GOOD JOB.

WE HAVE A VISION FOR THE TOWN.

THE VOTERS HAVE A VISION FOR THE TOWN.

THIS JUST DOESN'T REFLECT WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH BASED ON ON READING THROUGH IT.

SO I JUST DON'T THINK THIS IS A GOOD INVESTMENT.

I THINK IT'S $150,000 THAT WE CAN SPEND INVESTING DIRECTLY INTO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SPEND THE MONEY ON SOMETHING ELSE.

I'M TRYING TO SPEND IT ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A MORE TARGETED FASHION THAT'S MORE APPROPRIATE FOR WHAT WE ALREADY THE GOALS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE FOR THE TOWN.

SO I WOULD NOT SUPPORT APPROVING THIS STUDY.

THANK YOU. SO I LOOK AT THIS AS BEING A WE HAVE MASTER PLANS FOR PARKS.

WE HAVE MASTER PLANS FOR THIS.

WE HAVE MASTER PLANS FOR THOROUGHFARES.

WE HAVE MASTER PLANS.

TO ME THIS IS A MASTER PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS WHAT THIS IS, AND I AGREE WITH YOU FROM A STANDPOINT OF THE HEALTH SCIENCE, ONE THAT WE DID A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO WAS VERY TARGETED.

THIS IS ACTUALLY CREATING IN MY OPINION A LARGER DOCUMENT FOR US TO HANDLE ON A STRATEGIC PLAN.

WE'RE DOING OKAY FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK THAT WE ARE HAVE MUCH BIGGER OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE NOT EVEN ARE NOT EVEN ON THE RADAR SCOPE, AND I'D SAY THAT THIS IS YEAH, IT'S $150,000-$160,000 INVESTMENT, BUT IT'S AN INVESTMENT INTO THE TOWN'S FUTURE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET IT RIGHT FOR WHAT WE'VE GOT.

JAMES, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THE TOWN SPENT ANY MONEY ON A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? LOOKING AT YOU. RAY IS IT 2012? YEAH. 2012.

SO IT'S BEEN A MINUTE.

YES. LIKE A DOZEN YEARS.

HAVE WE EVER BROUGHT FORWARD THAT 2012 DOCUMENT AND WENT, HOW ARE WE DOING ON THIS? WHAT DID WE ACCOMPLISH? DID WE DO ANY OF THESE THINGS? I'VE NEVER HEARD MENTION OF THAT DOCUMENT ONE TIME.

SO WE HAD TALKED ABOUT IT BRIEFLY WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR ITEM FOR THE BUDGET PROPOSAL, AND THE 2012 PLAN WAS NOT A OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

IT WAS MORE A SITE SPECIFIC PLAN.

THEY WERE LOOKING AT THREE OR A HANDFUL OF SPECIFIC SITES IN TOWN.

SO ONCE THAT STUDY WAS APPROVED, WE HAD A CHANGE IN COUNCIL AND A CHANGE IN TOWN MANAGER, AND AT THAT TIME, THE THAT GROUP LOOKED AT THE PLAN AND SAID, WE THINK WE'RE GOOD, AND TO YOUR POINT, ADAM, THAT PLAN WAS PUT ON THE SHELF.

THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT.

IT'S NOT LOOKING AT A HANDFUL OF SITES AND SEEING WHAT THIS AREA OVER HERE SHOULD BE WHEN IT GROWS UP, OR THIS AREA OVER HERE SHOULD BE WHAT IT GROWS WHEN IT GROWS UP.

THIS IS LETTING THE TOWN KNOW WHAT IT DOESN'T KNOW, TO TRY TO PUT TOGETHER A PLAN WITH THE INFORMATION, THE DATA THAT THEY'RE GOING TO PUT TOGETHER, THAT THEY CAN TAKE IN CERTAIN ASPECTS, WHETHER IT'S OFFICE USES OR THE MEDICAL TIE IN THAT WE'RE DOING WITH TRIPP UMBACH TO TAKE THAT INFORMATION TO MARKET, TO HELP RECRUIT. THAT'S THE, I THINK, PROBABLY ONE OF THE MORE POWERFUL TOOLS THAT I HOPE TO GET OUT OF IT.

THE OTHER COMPONENT IS IT'S GOING TO SET FORTH THOSE ACTIONABLE ITEMS THAT WE CAN KIND OF WORK DOWN A LIST, AND AGAIN, AS THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, WE'RE GOING TO BRING THOSE GOALS TO COUNCIL, AND IF THEY IF YOU FEEL LIKE IT DOESN'T REFLECT WHAT YOU EXPECT THE COMMUNITY WILL WANT OR THE FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE GOTTEN, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MASSAGE AND LOOK AT BEFORE THE COUNCIL ADOPTS.

WE WANT THE COUNCIL TO BE COMFORTABLE WITH THIS PLAN, BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO EMBARK UPON IMPLEMENTING THAT PLAN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT FROM THE COUNCIL, AND ONE THING I'LL JUST ADD TOO JUST, JUST OVERALL IS THAT AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND INVESTING OUR TIME AND ENERGY IN THE OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN, AND THE MAYOR TOUCHED ON THIS TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, IT'S INCUMBENT ON US TO TAKE THESE OPPORTUNITIES TO INTERTWINE THE PLANS, MAKE SURE IT'S WOVEN.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT WAY TO SAY IT.

IT'S WOVEN INTO OUR OVERALL STRATEGIC PLAN, AND SO THESE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THAT CONNECTIVITY TO THE OVERARCHING PLANS BECAUSE I DO SHARE YOUR CONCERN COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL JUST ABOUT IF WE'RE JUST DOING SOMETHING FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT, AND IT'S REDUNDANT AND DUPLICATIVE OF SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'RE DOING, BUT I'LL SHARE THE EXAMPLE.

LIKE FOR PARKS, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAVE AN OVERALL PARKS MASTER PLAN, BUT THEN WE HAVE A TRAILS PLAN THAT GETS VERY GRANULAR WHEN IT COMES TO TRAILS.

WE PROBABLY GOING TO DO INDIVIDUAL PLANS FOR CERTAIN PARKS BECAUSE IT REQUIRES THAT LEVEL OF SPECIFICITY, AND THE WAY I LOOK AT THIS OVERALL PLAN IS, IS THAT IT'S KIND OF THAT GOVERNING UMBRELLA PLAN, AND IT CREATES THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO GET VERY SPECIFIC WHEN WE NEED TO AT SOME POINT DOWN THE LINE.

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SO I LIKE THE IDEA OF THE COUNCIL BEING ABLE TO HELP SET THE GOALS AND SET THE VISION FOR WHAT WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, SO I THINK THAT HELPS.

ADAM, I DO THINK YOU BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT AND IF POSSIBLE, IF RAY COULD RESPOND, YOU KNOW, ADAM, YOU SAID, WHAT IF WE TOOK THE $150,000, GAVE IT TO RAY AND HIS TEAM, AND WE SPENT IT INTERNALLY INSTEAD OF GOING OUTSIDE? AND I WOULD VERY MUCH WELCOME RAY'S THOUGHTS ON ON THAT SUGGESTION, AND IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, RAY, THE WAS IT THE TALENT STUDY, THE PORTION OF IT THAT LOOKED FOR THE TALENT TRENDS OR SOMETHING THAT WAS IN YOUR PRESENTATION? I FORGET THE YES, THE IN THEIR PRESENTATION THEY'RE LOOKING FOR THE TALENT TRENDS AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE TYPE OF TALENT THAT IS IN THIS AREA AND ALSO THE TALENT THAT'S MOVING INTO THIS AREA.

SO, I MEAN, MAYBE IF THAT'S NECESSARY FOR LIKE THE TRIPP UMBACH, WHICH I KNOW IS PART OF THAT STUDY AS WELL, MAYBE THAT COULD BE DECOUPLED AND JUST THAT ONE PIECE OF DATA COULD BE PROVIDED, BUT YOU KNOW, THE REST OF IT NOT SO MUCH.

RIGHT. WELL, AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S A MAJOR PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND IN BUSINESS IN GENERAL, AS YOU ALL KNOW, IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN WHERE WE WERE THREE YEARS AGO AND A LOT DIFFERENT THAN WHEN WE WERE 12 YEARS AGO, AND SO THAT'S THE OTHER REASON IN TALKING TO TOMMY AND TO JAMES IS THE REASON WE WERE LOOKING AT THIS IS BECAUSE OF HOW BUSINESSES HAS GONE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, BUT LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE AND HOW WE BEST PREPARE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES.

SO MY ONLY CONCERN WITH THIS IS I DON'T UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE.

SO I'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THE REPORT WOULD LOOK LIKE.

MAYBE AN EXAMPLE FROM ANOTHER TOWN.

SO I'M OKAY WITH TABLING THIS TO ANOTHER TIME, AND IF WE COULD GET SOME EXAMPLES OF WHAT THE, AND WE DO WE HAVE WE HAVE EXAMPLES THAT WE CAN SHOW. YEAH.

YEAH. SO IF I CAN I DON'T THINK WE ADDRESSED YOUR QUESTION, COUNCILMAN TAYLOR, ABOUT WHAT IF YOU GAVE US THE $151,000-160,000 WHAT CAN WE DO? AND PART OF WHAT WE LOOK AT IS JUST NATURALLY IS THAT IF I GAVE RAY, LET'S JUST SAY CONSERVATIVELY, THREE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS TO DO THE SAME AMOUNT OF WORK, WELL IF YOU LOOK AT PAYING THEM BENEFITS THE WHOLE DEAL, YOU'VE TRIPLED THAT AMOUNT, AND THAT'S AN ONGOING EXPENSE THAT YOU HAVE TO CARRY MOVING FORWARD.

SO THIS LET'S JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WERE AGGRESSIVE WHEN WE WENT TO REDO THE PLAN IN FIVE YEARS OR SO.

YOU AMORTIZE THAT $160,000 OVER FIVE YEARS AND YOU GET A NUMBER THAT'S FAR SMALLER THAN IT WOULD TO BRING ON ADDITIONAL STAFF TO WORK ON THIS PROJECT AND KEEP ON STAFF.

SO IN ESSENCE, YES, IT'S A ONE TIME KIND OF INFUSION.

YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO SPEND THAT MONEY, BUT IT'S BETTER THAN CARRYING ON PERSONNEL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CONTINUOUS WORK FOR PERPETUITY, IF YOU WILL.

SO THAT'S KIND OF THE TRADE OFF TO THAT.

IF WE IF RAY HAD ABOUT 5 OR 6 MORE PEOPLE, WOULD WE NECESSARILY BE HERE? MAYBE. MAYBE NOT. MAYBE NOT TO THE EXTENT OF WHAT WE'RE CONTEMPLATING, BUT WE HAVE AN AWESOME TWO PERSON CREW, I THINK THE WORLD OF RAY AND MELODY, BUT IT'S STILL TWO PEOPLE, AND BEING ABLE TO LEVERAGE THIS GIVES US THAT ABILITY TO BRING ON THESE CONSULTANTS, PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER.

BUT IF WE TRY TO DO IT INTERNALLY, WE WOULD HAVE TO SPEND SOME TIME STUDYING WHAT THAT PERSONNEL LOOKS LIKE, BUT IT WOULD BE A HECK OF A LOT MORE EXPENSIVE THAN $160,000, BUT WE WILL TAKE THE PERSONNEL.

YOU WOULDN'T TURN THAT DOWN. NO, THAT ANSWERS MY QUESTION, AND YOU KNOW I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THIS.

YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN GENERAL DURING THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.

LIKE I SAID, WITH THE WITH THE INPUT FROM STAFF, WITH THE INPUT FROM COUNCIL, YOU KNOW, I DO THINK HAVING THIS MASTER PLAN, THIS ROADMAP FOR US IN THE NEW ENVIRONMENT THAT WE LIVE IN IS IS WELL WORTH IT.

SO I'M I DON'T HAVE ANY CONCERNS.

I HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION FOR COUNCILMAN SCHIESTEL.

YOU HAD MENTIONED IN THE LIST OF STAKEHOLDERS YOUR CONCERN THAT THE PUBLIC WAS NOT INCLUDED.

CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT? DID I HEAR THAT RIGHT? I MEAN, IF IT'S A MASTER PLAN, WE'RE GOING TO INVOLVE THE PUBLIC.

YOU CAN THINK ABOUT WHAT WE DID FOR THE CONSERVATION.

YOU KNOW, THE [INAUDIBLE] MASTER PLAN.

THIS IS NOT THAT THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE A MASTER PLAN APPROVAL AT THE END OF IT.

THE DOCUMENT ACKNOWLEDGES THAT THEY HAVE CONFLICTS OF INTEREST.

IT'S RIGHT IN ITEM NUMBER THREE.

YOU KNOW, IT'S THE PUBLIC HAS ONE OPINION ABOUT THE WAY THE TOWN SHOULD DEVELOP.

THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY HAS A VERY DIFFERENT OPINION.

WE KNOW THAT, WE TRY TO BALANCE THAT ALL THE TIME, AND IT JUST SEEMS TO BE COMING FROM ONE PERSPECTIVE, AND THAT CONCERNS ME, AND I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A DOCUMENT WE'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH. SO I GET IT.

I MEAN, THE VALUE DOES MAKE SENSE.

I'M JUST NOT SURE THE OUTCOME IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BE VERY ACTIONABLE FOR US.

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SO I APPRECIATE THE PERSPECTIVE ON THE PUBLIC NOT HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE.

IS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD CHANGE THAT SO THAT THEY ARE INCLUDED AS DESIGNATED STAKEHOLDERS, THAT WE CAN ENSURE MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY, NOT JUST BUSINESS PEOPLE, BUT REGULAR RESIDENTS, WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE THEIR VOICE BE HEARD AS WELL.

COUNCILWOMAN MARTIN I'VE BEEN THROUGH THREE OF THESE STRATEGIC PLANS THROUGH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OVER THE LAST 22 YEARS, AND IN EACH OF THOSE, THE STAKEHOLDERS WERE BROUGHT IN, AND THEY DID INCLUDE MULTIPLE PEOPLE, NOT JUST THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, AND I MEAN, BECAUSE EVEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OTHER INDUSTRIES THAT AFFECT THESE STRATEGIC PLANS, WE LOOK AT THE THE ENERGY INDUSTRY.

THAT'S A MAJOR, A MAJOR GROUP THAT ALTHOUGH THEY'RE NOT BUILDING BUSINESSES HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, THEY STILL AFFECT EVERY BUSINESS AND EVERY STAKEHOLDER IN FLOWER MOUND, AND SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS WE LOOK AT, BOTH FROM THE BUSINESS AND NON BUSINESS GROUPS TO BE INVOLVED IN.

AND SO SOME OF THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS OBVIOUSLY WOULD BE POSTED AND NOTICED AND THE PUBLIC WOULD BE INVITED.

IT WOULD BE HELD PERHAPS EVEN IN THIS ROOM.

THAT'S CORRECT. SO PEOPLE WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

DO YOU FEEL A LITTLE BIT BETTER KNOWING THAT ABOUT THAT PART OF IT, NOT THE WHOLE THING.

IT SHOULD BE IN THE CONTRACT.

I MEAN, HONESTLY, LIKE THAT SORT OF THING SHOULD BE CALLED OUT IN CONTRACT AND IT SHOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO.

DO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO AMEND THE CONTRACT HERE AND NOW BEFORE WE VOTE [INAUDIBLE]? SO HERE'S A THOUGHT, AND I'M LISTENING TO THE DISCOURSE AND HEARING SOME OF THE CONCERNS, AND I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT COMPONENT OF IT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUST I JUST THOUGHT ABOUT IS, IS THAT IT MIGHT NOT BE IN TIP STRATEGY, SCOPE OF WORK, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY SUPPLEMENT THAT.

I THINK WE HAVE A FAIRLY SUCCESSFUL VEHICLE.

IN OUR [INAUDIBLE] FORMAT, WE COULD INITIATE JUST A TO START GETTING SOME CURSORY DATA AND FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, AND USE THAT AS A VEHICLE TO PULL SOME DATA IN REGARDS TO ELEMENTS DEALING WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE CAN WORK WITH TIP AND OTHERS, AND WE CAN FORMULATE AND HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO INFORM THE OVERALL PLAN. THAT MIGHT BE A CLEANER WAY THAN DOING THAT AMENDING THE CONTRACT.

I'M NOT FAMILIAR ENOUGH TO KNOW IT'S IN A NORMAL SCOPE OF WORK, BUT AGAIN, AS A SUCCESSFUL VEHICLE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING AND WE ALREADY HAVE SOME PLANS WHERE WE CAN CERTAINLY SET UP A FORMAT TO WHERE WE CAN ENGAGE THE PUBLIC ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO THAT'S JUST AN INITIAL THOUGHT THAT I CAME UP WITH THAT MIGHT BE AN APPROACH THAT CAN HELP INFORM AND GET THAT PUBLIC FEEDBACK INTO THE PROCESS, AND I WOULD JUST ADD, AND TOM MAY WANT TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM IS UNDER IN THE SCOPE OF WORK UNDER DISCOVERY 1.1, THE PROJECT LAUNCH.

IT TALKS ABOUT THE KICKOFF MEETING, PROVIDES THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THE OBJECTIVES, DEFINE SUCCESS FACTORS, IDENTIFY STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS, AND FORMALIZE THE OUTREACH STRATEGY, AND SO PART OF THE PROJECT TEAM IN THAT BEGINNING PHASE IS GOING TO TRY TO MAP OUT WHAT IS THIS DISCOVERY PHASE LOOK LIKE, AND I THINK THAT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO BETTER DEFINE THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH, MAYBE USING THAT [INAUDIBLE] STRATEGY, BUT I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM TOM ON HIS EXPERIENCE AND HIS THOUGHTS ON THAT.

WE CAN AMEND THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT I THINK IT COVERS THE NEED TO BETTER DEFINE THIS PUBLIC OUTREACH.

MR. STELLMAN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS FROM THE COUNCILMEMBERS? YES. OKAY. SO IF YOU COULD HELP US ADDRESS THAT AND THEN CONFIRM WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO INCLUDE IN THAT STATEMENT OF WORK? YEAH, AT A MINIMUM, WHAT THE TOWN MANAGER WAS DESCRIBING IF YOU HAVE A MECHANISM IN WHICH THE PUBLIC CAN PARTICIPATE, WE CAN PROVIDE THE RIGHT QUESTIONS AND THE SORT OF THE THINGS THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ASKED, BUT WE WOULD ALSO BE WILLING, IF YOU FELT LIKE A SURVEY, A MORE PUBLIC SURVEY, WE'VE DONE THAT.

I JUST DID THAT FOR THE ODESSA AREA, AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PUBLISHED ON WE HAD HELP.

WE DIDN'T DO THE PUBLISHING OF IT.

THAT HELP CAME FROM SOME OF THE OTHER MEMBERS, BUT WE PROVIDED THE SURVEY INSTRUMENT AND THEN IT WAS PUT OUT TO THE MEDIA AND THEN THE PUBLIC WAS ABLE TO GO IN AND RANK THE KIND OF THINGS THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND SHARE THEIR OPINIONS ABOUT IT.

WE'VE ALSO OPENED UP MEETINGS OR TOWN HALL TYPE MEETINGS, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT WITHIN THIS, IF THAT MADE SENSE BECAUSE WE'VE GOT ROUND TABLES IN THERE.

WE CAN, YOU KNOW, AROUND IT'S NOT ANY HARDER TO DO A, YOU KNOW, A TOWN HALL SESSION WHERE YOU CAN MAKE SURE THAT THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE A VOICE THAT'S REFLECTED RIGHT NOW HAVE A VOICE, AND I WILL ALSO SAY THAT'S PART OF OUR SORT OF GOING INTO IT.

WE KNOW THAT THERE MAY BE ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE.

WE NEED TO APPLY RESOURCES.

IF PUBLIC INPUT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE HAPPY TO DO THAT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT IN SOUTHLAKE AS AN EXAMPLE.

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COULD YOU ELABORATE ON THAT PROCESS JUST A LITTLE BIT ON HOW THAT WENT WITH THEM? YEAH, THAT WAS MORE THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS WHO KIND OF UNDERSTOOD THEIR CONSTITUENTS WITHIN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, REPRESENTED THEM.

WE DID NOT GO TO EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CITY HAD DONE A RECENT PERCEPTION SURVEY ABOUT CITY SERVICES AND HAD ASKED SOME QUESTIONS.

SO IT WASN'T REQUIRED, BUT THERE WERE SOME VERY VOCAL, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATES AND THOSE WHO WERE CONCERNED ABOUT DIFFERENT GROWTH PATTERNS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MADE REFLECTED THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED OR DIDN'T WANT IN THEIR CASE.

ANYONE ELSE. THANK YOU, MR. STELLMAN. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN.

ANY MORE DISCUSSION.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER K4 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN AS PRESENTED WITH THE INCLUSION OF PUBLIC MEETINGS BEING INCLUDED IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.

SECOND.

ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION.

BRING THE AMENDMENT TO THE SCOPE OF WORK IN THE MOTION IS ALLOWABLE.

YES. NOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S SUBJECT TO THE CONSULTANTS AGREEMENT, BUT JUST BASED ON WHAT I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING, I DON'T IMAGINE THAT WILL BE AN ISSUE.

EXCELLENT. THANK YOU SIR. THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL.

NAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

AYE. COUNCIL MEMBER DREW.

NAY. COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.

AYE. ITEM K4 ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIC PLAN PASSES 3 TO 2.

MOVING ON TO ITEM K1.

[K.1. SP23-0004 - Dragon Kim's Tae Kwon Do - Consider a Site Plan (SP23-0004 – Dragon Kim’s Tae Kwon Do) to develop a health or athletic club, with a request for a waiver to Architectural Standards in the Town's Urban Design Plan for roof pitch. The property is generally located east of Jernigan Road and north of Justin Road along Bryce Lane. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its October 9, 2023, meeting.)]

LEADING US OFF WILL BE MISS LEXIN MURPHY.

GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING.

MAYOR AND COUNCIL.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A SITE PLAN REQUEST.

THE REASON WHY IT'S BEFORE COUNCIL IS BECAUSE THERE IS A ROOF PITCH WAIVER PART OF IT, AS PART OF IT AS WELL. HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S EAST OF JERNIGAN AND NORTH OF BRYCE LANE.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

YOU CAN SEE THE LOT IS PRIMARILY CLEARED.

LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL AND THE ZONING IS RETAIL 2.

HERE'S THE GENERAL SITE PLAN, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

I HEAR SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE WAIVER, AND SO AGAIN, THE TOWN STANDARD WOULD CALL FOR A 612 TO 912 HIP AND GABLE SLOPED ROOF, AND SO THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO DO A 412 JUST ON THIS ONE SIDE THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.

HERE ARE SOME IMAGES FROM THE SITE.

SO THIS IS LOOKING NORTH EAST, AND THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY NORTH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE LOT'S ALREADY BEEN CLEARED FOR DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE'S THAT SITE PLAN AGAIN.

IT'S ROUGHLY 6300 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT'S PROPOSED.

BASED ON THE ONE FOR 250 PARKING REQUIREMENT.

THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE 25 SPACES.

THEY'RE PROVIDING 27.

THAT'S WITHIN THE ALLOWABLE PARKING DEVIATION.

THAT'S MEETING ALL OF THE TOWN'S LANDSCAPING STANDARDS.

HERE'S THE PARKING LOT, TREES, LANDSCAPE BUFFER, STREET YARD.

THERE IS A LARGE OPEN AREA TO THE REAR AS WELL.

I HEAR THE ELEVATIONS AGAIN THIS IS THE SOUTH ELEVATION, AND SO THIS IS WHERE THE 412 PITCH WOULD BE.

SO THIS IS THE VIEW THAT IT'S LOOKING ACROSS THE STREET AT THE OTHER.

ACROSS THE STREET THAT LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEVELOPED, AND I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY'VE DETERMINED THAT LOT HAS A 412 PITCH AS WELL.

SO THEY'RE MATCHING WHAT IS ACROSS THE STREET.

FOR THE REAR SIDE THAT BACKS UP TO THE RESIDENTIAL.

IT IS MEETING THAT HIGHER MORE STEEP PITCH.

SO THEY'RE NOT REQUIRING THE WAIVER REQUEST FOR THE NORTH ELEVATION.

HERE ARE THE EAST AND WEST ELEVATIONS AS WELL.

MEETS ALL THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS OTHER THAN THE ROOF PITCH.

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I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION.

COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS OF STAFF.

JUST ONE QUICK ONE.

LEXIN HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET DOES INDEED HAVE A 412 ROOF PITCH? WE BELIEVE IT DOES.

THEY KIND OF DID THEIR OWN ANALYSIS OF IT.

THAT PROPERTY WAS PREVIOUSLY IN A SPA SPECIFIC PLAN AREA, AND SO IT DIDN'T HAVE THE SAME ROOF PITCH REQUIREMENT AT THE TIME.

SO I CAN'T VERIFY BASED ON WHAT WAS SUBMITTED WHEN THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS.

COUNCIL ANYONE ELSE? A QUESTION THE ADJACENCY? DOES IT HAVE THE SIMILAR ASYMMETRY WITH A 412 AND THEN ANOTHER OTHER? IT DOES NOT. OKAY.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU LEXIN.

SO I HAVE A NOTE WITH THE APPLICANT PRESENTATION BY ANGIE CONTRERAS, AND PISTIL CONSORTIA.

I'M NOT SURE HOW WELL I DID ON THAT SECOND ONE.

YOU'RE RIGHT, I APOLOGIZE. YOU'RE THE FIRST ONE TO OKAY. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS ANGIE CONTRERAS FROM PISTIL CONSORTIA ARCHITECTURE, 600 PARKER SQUARE, SUITE 280E FLOWER MOUND.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

FIRST OF ALL, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT OUR PROJECT, WHICH TO BE BUILT IN OUR TOWN, FLOWER MOUND. SO HERE TONIGHT, I BROUGHT A REQUEST TO WAIVER TO THE ROOF SLOPE ON OUR BUILDING IN COMMERCIAL ZONING AREA.

SO AS LEXIN EXPLAINED THE PER CITY ORDINANCE, THE ACCEPTABLE ROOF SLOPE IS EITHER 6 12 TO 912, AND.

IN THE MAIN FAÇADE OF OUR BUILDING FACING TO THIS WAY TO BRYSON LANE, WHICH WE ARE APPLYING FOR 412 SLOPE OF ROOF.

SO THE REASON WE CAME UP WITH THE 412 IS ACCOMMODATE THE NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.

SO WE STUDY THE NEIGHBOR COMMERCIAL BUILDING WHICH IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM OUR BUILDING.

SO THIS IS THE APPROVED THE DRAWING, ONE OF THE ELEVATIONS THAT WE STUDIED THAT THEY SHOWING THAT THEY HAVE A 4 INCHES RIGHT.

EVERY 12 IN RUN.

SO WE ONLY APPLY THAT EXCEPTIONAL ON THE MAIN ROOF FACING TO THE COMMERCIAL BUILDING IN FRONT OF US.

SO OUR BUILDING IS AS YOU SEE, OUR BUILDING.

IS LOCATED AT THE EDGE OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA AND BOUNDARY AND THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.

THUS, WE WOULD LIKE TO IMPLY THE APPRECIATION OF THE RESIDENTIAL ARCHITECTURE.

EVEN OUR BUILDING IS WITHIN THE COMMERCIAL AREA.

SO WE'RE SHOWING THE LIKE WE'RE SHOWING THE REST OF THE ROOF PITCH WILL FOLLOW THE ZONING ORDINANCE FOR 6 TO 12 TO 9 TO 12.

SO THEREFORE HERE I AM ASKING FOR IF A 4 TO 12 SLOPE OF ROOF WE'RE PROPOSING TONIGHT IS ACCEPTABLE.

SO I BELIEVE BY APPLYING OUR CONSIDERATION, OUR BUILDING CAN CONTRIBUTE TO BRING THE HARMONY OF THE SURROUNDINGS.

SO THERE IS A RENDERING THAT YOU'RE SEEING.

SO THERE IS ANOTHER.

MY CONSIDERATION IS IF YOU SEE THE SITE.

SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF MOUND THAT WERE OUR BUILDING WILL SET ON TOP OF THE MOUNT.

SO IF WE CARRY THAT ROOF PITCH WHICH IS 6 TO 12 OR 9 TO 12, THE PITCH WILL BE TOO STEEP.

SO THAT WILL BLOCK THE RESIDENTIAL VIEW AS WELL.

SO WE WANT TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE DESIGNS BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL.

SO WE CONSIDER THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CONSIDER THE ROOF PITCH OF THE 4 TO 12, WHICH IS MORE LIKE A FLAT.

SO WE CAN HAVE ALSO STILL HAVE A VIEW OF THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.

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SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

MY PROPOSAL.

THANK YOU MA'AM. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? COULD YOU PUT THE SLIDE SHOW BACK TO THE OTHER RENDERING TO THAT ONE? SO WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE HIGHER PEAK? WITHOUT, THERE ARE NO WINDOWS LIKE I COULD SEE.

SOMETIMES YOU WOULD WANT A HIGHER ELEVATION IF YOU WANTED TO BRING MORE NATURAL LIGHT, BUT THERE'S JUST A SOLID WALL THERE.

YEAH. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT. WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THE WINDOWS ACTUALLY, BUT.

THERE IS A LIMIT THAT WE CAN HAVE OPENINGS WITH EACH FACE.

SO WE CAN HAVE ONLY UP TO 50% OF OPENING PER THE BUILDING SITE.

SO IF WE HAVE A TOO MUCH OPENING THERE, WE WON'T ABLE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY ORDINANCE.

SO THE MINIMAL WINDOWS THAT YOU'RE SHOWING ON THAT RENDERING THE DOORS AND THEN THE TWO WINDOWS.

YEAH. SO THIS WOULD PUT YOU OVER THE TOP OF 50%.

THIS IS LESS THAN 50%.

SO IF WE HAVE A CLEARER THE WINDOWS ABOVE HERE THEY WILL BE EXCEED THE REQUIREMENTS OKAY.

YEAH, AND.

WHY CAN'T IT JUST MEET AT A PEAK AND HAVE MORE SYMMETRY? YOU JUST DON'T. YOU'RE NOT A FAN OF THAT? NO, BECAUSE OUR CLIENT DOESN'T WANT TO SHOW LOOK AS RESIDENTIAL, SINCE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A RETAIL COMMERCIAL BUILDING.

SO HE WANTS TO HAVE SOME THINK SOME OTHER UNIQUE DESIGN, BUT ALSO WE CAN WE CAN JUST HAVE A STAND OUT BUILDINGS BECAUSE WE WANT TO BRING OUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, HARMONIES BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR BUILDINGS.

I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT PERSPECTIVE, BUT I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE THE PITCH TO BRING HARMONY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

SO THIS WOULD BE UNHARMONIOUS COMPARED TO THE OTHER ONES, WOULD IT NOT? I MEAN, IT DOES NOT, MATCHING THE INTENT OF THE LESS THAN 15,000FT² AND THE PITCH, AND DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, LET ME MAYBE THIS IS MORE OF A LEXIN QUESTION, BUT IF WE WERE TO DENY THIS EXCEPTION, THAT ONLY MEANS THAT ROOF WOULD GET TALLER, RIGHT? YEAH, THERE WILL BE MORE STIFF BECAUSE IF IT WERE A 612, IT WOULD BE EVEN HIGHER THAN IT IS HERE, AND THE GAP BETWEEN ON THAT WALL IS NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE LIKE.

THAT'S ALLOWED BY RIGHT.

NO. RIGHT. SO YEAH, IF WE DO 6 TO 12 OR 9 TO 12, THAT LOOKS MORE, THAT WILL MORE TAKE AWAY THE VIEW FROM OTHER NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY, BECAUSE THE ROOF WILL BE TOO STIFF SO IT WILL BE NOTICEABLE.

INCREASES THE HEIGHT. I'M SORRY, I WANTED TO MENTION ONE THING.

I DO. IF IT WAS, YOU WOULD LIKE IT BETTER IF IT WAS WINDOWS? AGAIN THIS WAS SUBMITTED BEFORE THE TOWN JUST RECENTLY ADOPTED THE UPDATE TO THE URBAN DESIGN PLAN THAT ALLOWS A GREATER PERCENTAGE OF WINDOWS AND DOORS.

IF NOT I'LL HAVE TO REMEMBER IF IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO A STREET.

WE DID TALK ABOUT BEING.

I MEAN, THIS IS LIKE AN OPEN SPACE THAT'S BEHIND THEM.

I MEAN, BECAUSE THEY ARE PROVIDING KIND OF SOME LANDSCAPE AREA.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WOULD WANT TO APPROVE IT SPECIFIC TO THEM DOING THAT AS WINDOWS, IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO DO, THEN MAYBE THAT COULD MAKE EVERYBODY HAPPY.

IS THE TREE IN THE RENDERING TRUE TO WHAT'S THERE ON THE SITE? OH YES. THERE'S ACTUALLY EXISTING TREE.

SO THAT'S IT? YEAH.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

WE'RE GOING TO PLANT MORE OF THE TREES, AND THEN.

SO INITIALLY WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CLEAR STORY WHICH GIVES MORE LIKE, YOU KNOW, NATURAL LIKE STRATEGICALLY LIKE BRING THE NATURAL LIGHT AND THEN NICER LOOKING, BUT LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TRYING TO FOLLOW THE ORDINANCE, SO WE DECIDED TO ELIMINATE THAT.

SO, BRYN, COULD WE IF WE APPROVE THIS, COULD WE NOTE THAT IT SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE NEW WINDOW ORDINANCE AND THEN THAT WOULD GIVE THEM AN ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS.

THEY COULD ADD WINDOWS IF THEY CHOOSE TO.

YES. YOU COULD ADD THAT AS A CONDITION, AND THE APPLICANT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO DO THAT? OH, YES. YOU UNDERSTAND? YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

I THINK IT WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE, AND IT WOULD BE A NICE INSIDE SPACE BECAUSE YOU'D HAVE MORE NATURAL LIGHT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T WE DON'T HAVE VERY HAPPY IN HERE.

I AIM TO PLEASE.

OH, WE'RE SAVING THE TREE.

I DON'T HAVE THE PLAN, BUT LIKE, HERE IS A TRAINING AREA AND WE HAVE A BIG OPENING AT THE LOBBY

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THEY CAN STUDIES AND, LIKE, WOULD LIKE TO HELP TO GET MORE NATURAL LIGHT IN ACTUALLY, AND THE RENDERING OF THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE NAME.

ONE MORE MAYBE.

KEEP GOING. I HAVE ONLY TWO RENDERINGS.

THIS ONE. THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE I SAW THAT HAD A SOLID WALL.

MAYBE IT WAS IN THE PLANS.

THAT ONE, THAT ONE.

SO THAT THOSE BIG SOLID WALLS WITH NO WINDOWS AT ALL.

THIS ONE'S FACING TO OUR NEIGHBOR, WHICH IS A SO IT'LL BE SCREENED.

YEAH. IT DOESN'T. THIS ONE IS AN OLD GOOGLE MAP, BUT THERE IS A BUILDING THAT'S A GALLERY, AND THEN THIS IS EVEN THEIR SLOPE DOWN.

SO THEIR ELEVATION IS MUCH LOWER.

SO WE DECIDE NOT TO HAVE TOO MANY TOO MUCH DECORATIONS THERE.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MS. CONTRERAS. I JUST WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS SETTING IT FORWARD AWAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL.

SO I LIKE THAT YOU'RE ADDING THE ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING THERE.

AND SO I THINK IT'LL BE A GOOD, GOOD ADDITION.

YOU KNOW, I'M IMPRESSED BY HOW THE COMPATIBILITY IS BEING ADDRESSED FROM TWO DIFFERENT SIDES TO WORK WITH RESIDENTIAL ON ONE SIDE AND THE COMMERCIAL ON THE OTHER.

SO IT'S I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE THOUGHT THAT'S GONE INTO THIS BUILDING.

YEAH. WHAT? JUST NEED TO DO SOME TAEKWONDO.

YEAH. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU MA'AM. THANK YOU.

COUNCIL, FOR DISCUSSION.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE WINDOWS.

WELL, YEAH WE CAN. WE'RE GOING TO MAKE THAT AS PART OF OUR MOTION.

WHEN ANN MAKES IT SHE CAN.

WHAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE WAY FOR ME TO PHRASE WITH THE ADDITION OF WINDOWS ON THE.

WHICH FAÇADE IS THAT? SOUTH FAÇADE.

FACING NORTH. IT'S THE NORTH.

THAT WOULD BE NORTH. THE NORTH FAÇADE.

YEAH, AND I MIGHT DEFER TO LEXIN IF SHE HAS SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY PERMISSIBLE TO ADD THAT AS A CONDITION JUST WITH THE ASTERISKS OF AS LEXIN SAID.

YEAH, I THINK THAT'S FINE WITH THE ALLOWANCE FOR THE ADDITIONAL WINDOWS ALONG THERE, I MEAN, ALONG THE UPPER PORTION OF THE NORTH FAÇADE AND A REQUIREMENT OR AN ALLOWANCE, IT SHOULD.

WELL, I MEAN, THE.

YOU CAN HOWEVER YOU WANT TO MAKE THE REQUEST.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE RIGHT NOW.

SO YOU CAN MAKE IT WITH THE REQUIREMENT.

I MEAN, LIKE I SAID, WE JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, THEY HAVEN'T DESIGNED IT YET.

THEY'RE NOT SURE WHAT IF YOU MIGHT HAVE HVAC EQUIPMENT THAT COMES UP RIGHT HERE.

SO MAYBE THEY'LL ONLY BE. I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY IT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO BE COMPLETELY CLEAR ACROSS THE FRONT OF IT.

SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO MAKE THAT THE REQUIREMENT AND THEN FEEL LIKE IT DIDN'T MEET YOUR EXPECTATIONS.

THE POSSIBILITY OF ADDITIONAL.

OH, WELL, THEN IF THERE'S JUST A POSSIBILITY WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE.

WHAT I MEAN, LIKE SAID, YOU CAN SAY WITH YOU COULD SAY WITH.

YOU CAN SAY WITH THE REQUIREMENT THE ADDITIONAL WINDOWS ON THE NORTH SIDE UP TO THE NEW TOWN STANDARD PERMISSIBLE.

WILL THAT DO IT? SURE.

OKAY. I'LL TRY IT WITH THAT.

I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K 1, AND THAT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER BECAUSE WE'RE NOT AMENDING OKAY K ONE AS WRITTEN, WITH THE ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE FOR WINDOWS ON THE NORTH FAÇADE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S NEW STANDARDS.

SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION.

BRYN THAT MATCHES.

[INAUDIBLE] EXCELLENT.

THERESA WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.

AYE. COUNCILMEMBER DREW.

AYE. MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

AYE. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

AYE, AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL.

AYE. ITEM NUMBER ONE SP 23-0004 WITH THE AMENDMENT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

CONGRATULATIONS, MA'AM.

MOVING ON TO ITEM TWO.

WE'RE OPENING ZPD 23-0005 EMBREE 2499.

[K.2. ZPD23-0005 - Embree 2499 - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD23-0005– Embree 2499) to amend Planned Development District No. 186 (PD-186) with Retail-2 District (R-2) and Office District (O) uses to modify phasing and maintenance requirements and to request certain modifications and exceptions to the Code of Ordinances. The property is generally located south of Sagebrush Drive and west of Long Prairie Road. (PZ recommended denial by a vote of 5 to 1 at its October 9, 2023, meeting.)]

OH, IT IS LEXIN.

GOOD EVENING AGAIN. I DIDN'T HAVE THAT ON MY NOTES, BUT.

THANK YOU, MAYOR.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT REQUEST.

IT'S A PROJECT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY APPROVED BY THE COUNCIL AND THEN WAS AMENDED TO INCORPORATE THE ELEVATIONS FOR THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS THAT WERE GOING TO BE ALONG THE FRONTAGE, AS WELL AS ALLOWING FOR AN EXCEPTION FOR A DRY DETENTION POND

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SO HERE'S THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S WEST OF LONG PRAIRIE SOUTH OF SAGEBRUSH.

HERE'S A MORE DETAILED VIEW.

THIS IS WHAT'S CURRENTLY EXISTING ON THE SITE, NOT WHAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.

THE LAND USE FOR THE PROPERTY IS RETAIL ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF LONG PRAIRIE AND THEN OFFICE TO THE REAR OR WEST OF THE SITE.

THE ZONING AGAIN IS PD 186 WITH OFFICE AND RETAIL 2 USES.

NOW HERE'S AN IMAGE OF THE SITE.

THIS IS LOOKING DIRECTLY WEST INTO WHERE THE PROPOSED LARGER DETENTION POND AND THE SLIM CHICKENS RESTAURANT WOULD BE DEVELOPED.

THAT'S BUILDING TWO OF THE THREE FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS.

SO AGAIN THIS IS A PROPOSED PD AMENDMENT FOR THE PHASING AND MAINTENANCE.

THESE ARE THE STANDARDS THAT WERE IN THE ORIGINAL PLAN DEVELOPMENT THAT THE FIRST PHASE WOULD INCLUDE THE LANDSCAPED AREA ALONG 2499, AS WELL AS THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFERS ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, A SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE, ALL PERIMETER SIDEWALKS AND TOWN TRAIL CONNECTIVITY, WET DETENTION PONDS, FIRE LANES, MEETING CUTS, TURN LANES AND CURB CUTS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT, AND A 31FT MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT, OR SPINE ROAD THAT CONNECTING THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN PROPERTIES AND PARALLEL TO LONG PRAIRIE ROAD.

SO THE THREE WITH THE GREEN CHECKS ARE WHAT ARE STILL PROPOSED TO BE INCLUDED WITHIN THAT, THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL ALONG THE NORTHERN PROPERTY LINE.

SO THAT WAS THE WALL THAT WAS PROVIDING THE BUFFER BETWEEN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND THE OAKS, THE EXISTING ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY, THE WET DETENTION POND.

SO THE CURRENTLY PROPOSED DRY DETENTION POND, AS WELL AS THE WET DETENTION POND ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, WOULD BOTH BE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN ALSO THE MUTUAL ACCESS EASEMENT.

SO WHAT'S PROPOSING TO BE DELAYED IS THE FIRE LANE.

MEDIAN CUTS TURN LANES FOR THE TWO OFFICE LOTS THAT ARE ON THE WESTERN SIDE OR KIND OF REAR OF THE DEVELOPMENT, IF YOU THINK OF IT AS STANDING ON 2499 FACING IT.

SO THOSE OTHER THINGS WOULD STILL COME IN FOR THE FRONT HALF OF THE DEVELOPMENT IN THE FIRST PHASE, BUT THEN WOULD BE DELAYED FOR THE REAR LOTS UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THOSE LOTS DEVELOP.

SO THE SAME THING WITH THE SIDEWALK.

THERE WAS A PROPOSED TOWN TRAIL THAT WAS NOT JUST PROPOSED, IT REQUIRED TOWN TRAIL THAT IS WITHIN THAT WESTERN PROPERTY LINE BUFFER, AND THEN ALSO THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER, WHICH IS THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL, AND THE REQUIRED PLANTINGS THAT WOULD AGAIN GO ALONG THE WESTERN SIDE.

THOSE ARE WHAT ARE TO BE DELAYED.

SO THIS IS THE NEW LANGUAGE.

THE FIRST PHASE SHALL INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING.

ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS NECESSARY FOR LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE.

THOSE ARE THE THREE FAST FOOD LOTS, AND THEN AGAIN ALL THE FIRE LANES, MEDIAN CUTS, TURN LANES, CURB CUTS FOR BUILDINGS ONE, TWO AND THREE, AND THEN LOT FOUR AND FIVE WOULD BE CLEARED AND GRUBBED TO REMOVE ALL NON PROTECTED TREES, VINE SHRUBS SAMPLING SAPLINGS AND UNDERGROWTH.

EXISTING PROTECTED TREES BE LIMBED UP TO ALLOW FOR ONGOING MAINTENANCE OF THE LOTS.

SO THE IDEA THERE IS JUST TO KIND OF CLEAR THOSE SO THAT IT'S EASIER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE AREA IS PROPERLY MAINTAINED. THEY LOOK LIKE DEVELOPABLE LOTS FOR EASE OF TRYING TO SELL THEM TO NEW OFFICE USERS THAT WOULD WANT TO GO IN THERE.

THE FOLLOWING ITEMS LOCATED ON LOTS FOUR AND FIVE, SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED FOR EACH LOT AS IT DEVELOPS.

AGAIN THAT LANDSCAPED AREA ALONG THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE WITHIN THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER, THE EIGHT FOOT TRAIL WITHIN THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER, THE SIX FOOT MASONRY WALL AND THOSE FIRE LANE CURB CUTS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE, AND THEN A CO WOULD NOT BE ISSUED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS OF LOTS FOUR AND FIVE UNTIL THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETED. WHAT WAS PROPOSED FOR THE PHASING LANGUAGE.

IN THE INTERIM, LOT FOUR AND FIVE WILL BE MAINTAINED TO KEEP WEEDS TURF, GRASS, BRUSH UNDER 12IN.

THAT'S THE TOWN'S CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDARD, AND THEN STAFF REQUESTED, AND THE APPLICANT WAS OPEN TO THE ADDITIONAL STANDARDS FOR THE RETENTION PONDS.

THESE ARE JUST HOW WE LIKE TO SEE RETENTION PONDS MAINTAINED, AND SO WE WANTED TO GO AHEAD AND GET IT PUT INTO THE ORDINANCE, ALONG WITH OTHER MAINTENANCE REQUIREMENTS THAT THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE NORMAL POOL ELEVATION LEVEL CLEAR OF ALL NOXIOUS PLANT MATERIAL.

THE PROPERTY OWNER ASSOCIATION MAY NEED TO SECURE A POND MAINTENANCE COMPANY.

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AERATION WILL BE PROVIDED AND PERMANENT VEGETATION SHALL BE ESTABLISHED AND MAINTAINED ALONG THE EXPOSED BANKS TO PREVENT EROSION ISSUES.

SO THE APPLICANT WAS IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL OF THE CONDITIONS IN RED THAT WERE DISCUSSED WITH TOWN STAFF.

SO AGAIN, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT THE AREA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS GREEN BOX.

THIS IS THE AREA THAT WOULD BE DELAYED IN RELATION TO LOTS FOUR AND FIVE UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THEY DEVELOP.

SO THAT'S THE COMPATIBILITY AREA THAT WOULD BE DELAYED, BUT THEN IT WOULD ALSO BE THESE FIRE LANES THAT ARE TO THE REAR OF THE BUILDING.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE APPLICANT BROUGHT UP DURING THE P&Z MEETING THAT BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T SURE HOW THESE WERE GOING TO ACTUALLY DEVELOP YET, THEY DIDN'T NECESSARILY WANT TO PUT IN THESE FIRE LANES AT THIS POINT.

THEY WOULD REALLY LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DELAY THAT UNTIL THEY SAW THE SPECIFIC USER THAT CAME IN WAS PART OF THE REASONING FOR THEIR REQUEST.

SO IN ADDITION TO THE PHASING REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE WITH THIS PD AMENDMENT, THERE IS ALSO AN EXCEPTION FOR RETENTION POND STANDARDS.

SO THIS IS FOR THE LARGER RETENTION POND THAT'S THERE ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF 2499.

THE APPLICANT IS STILL PROPOSING THAT THIS BE A WET POND A RETENTION POND, BUT THEY'RE PROPOSING A CHANGE TO THE TOWN'S STANDARD.

NORMAL STANDARDS WOULD NOT ALLOW FOR KIND OF A RISE OF GREATER THAN THREE FEET.

AFTER THAT, YOU HAVE TO STAIRSTEP IT OUT.

THIS IS FOR AESTHETIC PURPOSES.

THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO ALLOW IT TO GO UP TO FIVE FEET, SIX INCHES, AND SO THERE WILL BE A CLAD RETAINING WALL THAT WOULD BE HERE ALONG THAT FRONTAGE.

SO IN THIS AREA THAT'S WHERE THE FIVE FOOT SIX FEET WOULD BE.

SO THIS IS JUST TO SHOW YOU THIS IS KIND OF THE TOWN'S TYPICAL STANDARD, AND SO THIS IS WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED, THAT IT WOULD BE AS HIGH AS FIVE FEET AND THREE INCHES, AND THIS IS SHOWING KIND OF WHERE THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK WOULD BE.

SO IT WOULD NOT BE VISIBLE ALONG 2499 JUST LOOKING OUT.

YOU WOULD JUST SEE A POND.

YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SEE SOME OF THE RETAINING WALL FROM THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU WERE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT, AND ALSO THE APPLICANT IS ALSO GOING TO FENCE THE AREA.

YOU CAN SEE THEY ARE PROVIDING A FENCE ALL THE WAY AROUND.

SO AGAIN, HERE IS THAT LANDSCAPE PLAN SHOW THE AREA THAT'S PRIMARILY BEING DISCUSSED.

THAT'S THE END OF MY PRESENTATION.

THE APPLICANT IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, ALTHOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION.

I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU, LEXIN ON SLIDE 22, THE FIRE LANE SITUATION.

DO WE HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS FOR FIRE LANE CONSTRUCTION BASED ON OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING ADJACENT? FIRE LANES ARE ALWAYS 26FT WIDE.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT IT VARIES BASED ON THAT.

NOW THERE CAN BE A I THINK WHAT THE APPLICANT TALKED ABOUT IS THAT THEY POTENTIALLY WANTED TO HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT A DAYCARE HERE THAT WOULD REQUIRE AN SUP, SO THAT WOULD COME BACK BEFORE COUNCIL, BUT IF THEY WERE TO PUT A DAYCARE THERE, REQUEST THAT PERMISSION, THEN THEY MIGHT NEED TO RECONFIGURE THIS SOME TO ALLOW FOR, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT DEPENDS ON HOW THE QUEUING WOULD THEY WOULD WANT TO DO THAT FOR THE DAYCARE.

THEY MIGHT WANT TO PUSH SOMETHING BACK AND HAVE MORE SPACE IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING FOR FIRE.

THEY NEED TO HAVE THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO REACH THE HOSE, LAY WHATEVER THEIR REQUIRED HOSE LAY IS, AND THE AMOUNT OF FEET FOR THE HOSE LAY VARIES BASED ON WHETHER OR NOT THE BUILDING IS SPRINKLED, BUT SO THOSE ARE THE CONDITIONS THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET.

IT WOULDN'T MATTER WHAT THE USE WAS, AS FAR AS THEY WOULD STILL HAVE TO ENSURE THAT THEY COULD MEET FIRES STANDARDS, BUT AS FAR AS WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO SHIFT THE BUILDING SLIGHTLY ON THE LOT AS SOON AS, AS LONG AS THEY COULD STILL MEET FIRE STANDARDS, THAT MIGHT BE A POSSIBILITY.

SO IF THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT, IT WOULD ENCROACH UPON THE LANDSCAPED AREA, PERHAPS, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE THE BUFFER WHERE WOULD IT GO? THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH ON THE LANDSCAPE, AND HOW WHERE WOULD IT BE? THEY MIGHT REQUIRE LESS PARKING.

BASED ON WE HAVE A DIFFERENT PARKING STANDARD FOR AN OFFICE USE VERSUS A DAYCARE USE.

IT'S DIFFERENT FOR MEDICAL OFFICE VERSUS GENERAL BUSINESS OFFICE, SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT THEY COULD LOSE SOME PARKING SPACES.

SO THOSE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE BISECTED BY THE GREEN LINE RIGHT NOW? YES. OKAY.

YEAH. THE GREEN LINE IS IS KIND OF GENERAL.

THAT'S THE LANDSCAPING BUFFER ROUGHLY.

I MEAN, WE DREW THE GREEN BOX TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

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LANDSCAPE AS A REFERENCE.

A POINT OF REFERENCE. YEAH. IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OVER THERE.

IT WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BISECT THE PARKING SPACE.

OKAY, AND REGARDING FIRE LANES, I PRESUME THAT WILL NOT HAVE ANY IMPACT ON LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE AND ACCESSIBILITY. NO.

OKAY. LEXIN RECOMMENDED DENIAL.

THAT'S CORRECT. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE THE P&Z MEETING IN THIS PROPOSAL? NO, IT HAS NOT. OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU LEXIN. COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ANY OF THE ATTENDEES IN THE ROOM? I CAN ASK THEM TO COME UP UNLESS YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.

IT SAYS NO PRESENTATION.

YOU GUYS, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO APPROACH AND PRESENT IF YOU'D LIKE.

BECAUSE IT IS A MISUNDERSTANDING THAT FIRE THAT LINE BEHIND LOT FIVE IS NOT A FIRE LANE.

OKAY. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.

THE FIRE LANE GOES AROUND HERE AND DOWN HERE.

I'M NOT SAYING IT COULDN'T BE USED AS A FIRE LANE, BUT THAT IS AN ACCESS DRIVE FOR THIS PARKING IN THE REAR, AND WE DO HAVE A DAYCARE.

COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ASKED US TO BRING A DAYCARE TO FLOWER MOUND.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S DONE.

WE DO NOT HAVE.

YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT? DON'T REMEMBER THAT? YOU SAID WE NEED A DAYCARE IN FLOWER MOUND.

I PROBABLY SAID, OH, IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE DAYCARE.

OKAY. I DON'T THINK I SPECIFICALLY WOULD ASK YOU TO BRING ONE.

THAT'S RIGHT. SO I WOULDN'T ASK YOU TO.

CURRENTLY WE HAVE WE'RE IN LEASE NEGOTIATIONS WITH A CHILD CARE PROVIDER, A LARGE ONE, AND THIS BUILDING WOULD BE 13,600FT² AND IT WOULD BE PLAYGROUND IN THE REAR.

SO THE DRIVE WOULD COME AROUND LIKE THIS.

THERE WOULD BE NO DRIVE IN THE REAR.

OKAY, AND WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT, WE WOULD COMPLETE THIS WALL AND ALL THE LANDSCAPING, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS AS WE DEVELOP, WE SPEND THE MONEY IN THE BACK, AND SO THAT WOULD COMPLETE THE WALL.

SOUND LIKE FOX NEWS NOW AND THE LANDSCAPING BEHIND THAT BUILDING.

SO THAT WOULD COMPLETE THAT ENTIRE, AND THE TRAIL.

YES. TWO TO THE EDGE OF THIS PROPERTY LINE, AND THEN WHEN WE SELL A LOT 4 LEASE, LOT 4 WHATEVER HAPPENS TO LOT FOUR, WE'LL COMPLETE THAT AMOUNT AT THAT TIME. MR. COLLEY, IF YOU COULD JUST PAUSE THERE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND COMPANY.

FOR THE RECORD. GENE COLLEY THANK YOU. SURE.

SORRY. SO, GENE, I MEAN, I GET WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH AND I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT, BUT THESE COMPATIBILITY STANDARDS ARE NOT FOR YOU.

THEY'RE FOR YOUR NEIGHBORS, AND IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIVE THEM, WE REALLY NEED YOUR NEIGHBOR'S CONSENT TO DO SO, AND WHAT I WAS HOPING YOU WERE GOING TO COME TO IN THIS MEETING WAS TO TELL ME THE CONVERSATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OBJECTED AT THE P&Z, AND WHAT KIND OF A COMPROMISE THAT YOU HAD WORKED OUT WITH THEM TO ALLOW THEM TO GET THE PRIVACY AND PROTECT THEIR PROPERTY VALUES, BUT GIVE YOU SOME SORT OF CHEAPER, TEMPORARY OPTION THAT MIGHT SATISFY ALL PARTIES UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THESE DEVELOP.

I'M CURIOUS, WHY ARE YOU PUTTING IN THE NOT ASKING TO NOT PUT IN THE NORTH MASONRY WALL ON LOT FIVE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

SO LOT FIVE HAS A NORTH MASONRY WALL ADJACENT TO I THINK IT'S A RETIREMENT HOME.

WE'RE NOT ASKING. WHY? WHY AREN'T YOU ASKING FOR THAT? BECAUSE I AM COMPLETING THE CONSTRUCTION ALL THE WAY THROUGH HERE, AND THIS LANE WILL BE COMPLETE ALL THE WAY OUT, AND THAT'S WHY.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE CONSIDERING THEIR ADJACENCY CONCERNS, BUT NOT THE ONES ON THE WESTERN SIDE, AND I'M JUST CONFUSED.

WHY NOT JUST DO ALL OF IT WHEN LOT FIVE COMES FORWARD? WHAT CONVERSATIONS HAVE YOU HAD WITH THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ARE ABOUT TO COME UP HERE TO TRY TO FIND A COMPROMISE THAT WORKS.

WE HAD A CONVERSATION THIS AFTERNOON.

WE DID MEET AFTER THE P&Z MEETING WITH TAD.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE WE SPOKE TO AT THAT TIME, AND I'M I'LL BE AS HONEST AS I CAN WITH YOU ABOUT THIS.

I THINK I'VE BEEN HONEST WITH YOU GUYS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.

THIS IS PURELY ECONOMICAL.

BECAUSE IF WE HAVE TO SPEND THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY UP FRONT WITHOUT THE LOT DEVELOPMENT, WE DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS TO PUT THIS PROJECT TOGETHER AND IT DIES.

OKAY, NOW I WILL TELL YOU, WITH LOT FIVE BEING DEVELOPED WITH THE CHILD CARE, IT DOES ALLOW US TO PUT IN THIS ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING AND THE WALL THAT IS REQUIRED. WE UNDERSTAND THAT, AND SO LOT FIVE WAS GETTING THE NORTH BOUNDARY BECAUSE WE WERE DRIVING AGAINST IT AND IT WOULD BE TRAFFIC THERE.

THAT WAS WHY I HAD IT ORIGINALLY IN THE PLAN, AND THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION WITH THE OAKS ABOUT NOT DOING IT, BECAUSE WE UNDERSTOOD THAT LANE WOULD HAVE TRAFFIC AND HEADLIGHTS,

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I WANT TO DOVETAIL INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE LANDSCAPING.

SO THE REQUEST ALSO WAS TO NOT CLEAR CUT BUT CLEAR THE SHRUBS AND THEN LIMB UP THE TREES, AND THEN WITHOUT THAT LANDSCAPE BUFFER BEING PUT IN WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS TO THE WEST.

THEN IT'S EVEN WORSE FOR THEM TO SEE THE BACKS OF ALL THE FAST FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.

OKAY, SO WE DID HAVE THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT LEAVING IT IN ITS NATURAL STATE, AND WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T TALK ABOUT THAT ON THE CALL TODAY AT ALL, AND WE HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT IF THAT'S THE WAY THEY WANT TO.

I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THE TOWN WANTING IT TO BE LEFT ROUGH BRUSH LIKE IT IS.

I WOULD JUST RATHER HAVE THE RESIDENTS HAVE SOME KIND OF BUFFER, AND IF THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER AS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED, THEN TO TAKE AWAY EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK EVEN MAKES IT WORSE, BUT MAYBE WHEN THEY COME UP TO SPEAK, MAYBE THEY'LL TALK ABOUT THEIR OPINION ON THAT.

SURE. NO, WE'RE THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH.

IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

BUT LIKE I SAID, WITH THE CHILD CARE COMING IN, IT PUTS THE WALL WHERE WE CURRENTLY HAVE RESIDENTS.

THERE ARE NO RESIDENTS BEHIND LOT FOR.

HOW SOON IS THAT EXPECTED TO COME FOR CONSIDERATION FOR AN SUP? THE DAYCARE, HOW SOON WOULD IT COME FOR CONSIDERATION? WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY 2 OR 3 MONTHS AWAY EASILY BECAUSE IT TAKES WE'RE PROBABLY A MONTH AWAY FROM A SIGNED LEASE, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN MOVE, AND YOU'RE FEELING VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT THAT.

OH, YEAH. YEAH. OH, GOOD.

YEAH. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IT FOR A LONG TIME.

SO, MR. COLLEY? YES, SIR. YOU'VE COME BACK TO US A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO FOR AN ECONOMIC INCENTIVE, AND WERE DENIED.

YES, AND THIS DELAYED IMPLEMENTATION OF THE [INAUDIBLE]--NO, I WON'T SAY INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT OF THE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING. THAT WAS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT YOU DISCUSSED WITH MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, RIGHT? YES. DID YOU GET ANY TURNDOWNS AT THAT POINT WITH YOUR CONVERSATIONS WITH US? AS FAR AS BEING OPEN TO THE OPTION? YEAH. NO, I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN A BIG DEAL.

OKAY. WHY? I'M JUST WONDERING.

BECAUSE I ONLY SPOKE.

YOU SEEM TO BE GETTING SOME PUSHBACK HERE.

SPOKE TO TWO PEOPLE BECAUSE THE REST DIDN'T RETURN PHONE CALLS.

OKAY. BECAUSE I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BUSY.

NOT POINTING FINGERS.

DON'T DO THAT. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. COLLEY? I DO, ABOUT THE RETENTION POND.

THE REQUEST. WHAT'S THE GENESIS FOR THAT REQUEST? OKAY, SO THE WAY THE TOWN IS SET UP ON THE WALLS.

YOU. YOU'RE WIDER.

OUR WALL IS GOING TO BE STRAIGHTER AND OBVIOUSLY IT'S FOR SAFETY, AND SO THAT'S WHY WE CAME IN WITH A FENCE.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A BIG COST SAVINGS, BUT IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT NICER AND DOESN'T TAKE UP AS MUCH LAND.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT HOW THAT THING SETS, I THINK THE INTENT THE TOWN HAS IS TO NOT SEE SO MUCH, AND WE THINK BECAUSE WE'RE ON THE BACKSIDE OF THAT SIDEWALK, IT SHOULD BE OKAY.

I MEAN, THAT'S REALLY THE GOAL.

I THINK WE MEET THE INTENT OF THAT AND IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETELY FENCED.

YEAH.

YEAH, IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY FENCED ANYWAY, IN MY OPINION, JUST FOR SAFETY AND KIDS WALKING ACROSS THAT SIDEWALK.

WE HAD AN ISSUE ON ANOTHER PROPERTY ELSEWHERE IN TOWN WHERE THAT WAS A CONSIDERATION.

I CAN WELL IMAGINE.

YEAH, KIDS WANT TO GO FISHING.

I DRIVE DOWN CHINN CHAPEL AND THERE'S KIDS CLIMBING FENCES, FISHING.

SO ARE THERE ANY ALTERNATIVE? BARRIERS THAT YOU COULD PUT IN BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR WESTERN NEIGHBORS.

THAT WOULD BE LOWER COST.

GIVE THEM THE PROPERTY YOU KNOW THE PRIVACY THEREAFTER AND ALLOW THEM LIKE A CEDAR FENCE.

LET'S JUST THROW THAT OUT THERE.

IF YOU PUT IN A CEDAR FENCE THAT YOU THEN REPLACE WITH A MASONRY WALL UPON DEVELOPMENT, WOULD SOMETHING LIKE THAT BE ACCEPTABLE? WE WOULD CONSIDER IT.

I WON'T TELL YOU, NO.

I WILL TELL YOU THE MAINTENANCE ON A CEDAR FENCE.

WELL, YOU GUYS KNOW WHAT YOUR YARD FENCES ARE LIKE, SO I DON'T NEED TO EXPLAIN THAT.

I MEAN, IT'S A PAIN, BUT IT COULD BE DONE.

I WON'T TELL YOU. IT CAN'T BE DONE.

OKAY, WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL AGREE TO, IN MY OPINION, BUT I'M TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING THAT AND WE DISCUSSED THAT ON THE CALL TODAY.

OKAY, AND WE HAD A GREAT CALL I MEAN WE REALLY DID WE DID NOT COME TO AN AGREEMENT ON ANYTHING.

WE JUST HAD A DISCUSSION.

SO OKAY, SO I'M LOOKING FOR WHAT YOU CAN AGREE TO, TO PROVIDE THEM TO ALLEVIATE THEIR CONCERNS AND ALLOW YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH YOUR PROJECT, AND I'LL JUST SAY THIS, I DON'T THINK WE'RE EVER GOING TO SEE THIS TRAIL.

IF WE APPROVE THIS EXCEPTION, IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT I'M OKAY WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE DO WANT THE PARTS OF THE PROJECT THAT ARE ON THE

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SO I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING THAT GETS THEM WHAT THEY NEED ALLOWS YOU TO MOVE FORWARD, AND THEN IF IN FACT YOU DO GET THIS DAYCARE, THEN WE GET THE WALL AND THE TRAIL AND EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE HOPING FOR.

AREN'T WE TYING THE [INAUDIBLE], THOUGH, ADAM.

YEAH, EXACTLY.

I WOULD THINK. OKAY.

SO THERE'S A SIMILAR PROPERTY IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH.

UNDEVELOPED TRAIL CONNECTION IS NOT THERE.

HOW COME THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED? I'M JUST CONCERNED.

I MEAN, IT'S I APPRECIATE WHAT GENE IS SAYING WITH THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.

I HAVE TO ASSUME THAT IT'S NOT, AND THAT'S JUST IT'S MY JOB TO BE SKEPTICAL, AND THAT'S OKAY.

I WISH YOU THE BEST OF LUCK AND EMAIL, PLEASE, IN THE FUTURE, DON'T CALL EMAIL.

THAT'S MY PREFERENCE.

I WILL ANSWER YOUR EMAILS AND TAKE MEETINGS IF YOU WANT THEM.

SO I JUST WANT I'M LOOKING FOR THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN DO IN THE INTERIM UNTIL THAT PROJECT COMES FORWARD THAT WE CAN TIE TO THIS, THAT YOUR NEIGHBORS WILL COME UP HERE AND AGREE TO. SO IF I DON'T HAVE THAT, THAT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I'VE BEEN IN THIS AREA FOR A LONG, LONG TIME, AND I KNOW THAT THE FIRST GUY TO THE DANCE GETS TO PAY FOR THE DANCE, AND THAT WAS PART OF OUR DISCUSSION TODAY, THAT IF THEY WANTED TO BUILD THAT SUBDIVISION, IF I WASN'T HERE, THEY'D BE BUILDING THE WALL AND NOT ME.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE BUILDING A FENCE WITH YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU TAKE THE RIGHT HALF, THEY TAKE THE RIGHT HALF.

OKAY, THAT'S NOT THE WAY THIS WALL IS.

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND IT.

IT'S IN MY BUDGET TO BUILD IT.

OKAY, AND SO WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IS A DELAY IN THE PART BEFORE WE BUILD, AND AS I DISCUSSED ON THE CALL TODAY, LOT FOUR IS GOING TO COST ME A SMALL FORTUNE FOR EVERY DAY THAT IT DOESN'T GET DEVELOPED.

BECAUSE ON P AND Z THEY ASKED ME, HE SAID, WELL, HOW DO I KNOW YOU'RE NOT GOING TO JUST NOT DO ANYTHING? TRUST ME, I HAVE TO EITHER SELL IT OR LEASE IT BECAUSE I'M PAYING 9% INTEREST ON THAT UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS.

SO IF YOU DON'T THINK I'M NOT GOING TO BE DOING EVERYTHING IN MY POWER AS WE ARE TODAY TO TRY TO GET THAT LOT SOLD OR DEVELOPED, YOU CAN'T IMAGINE THE CARRY COST ON THAT THING.

GENE, WOULD YOU ACCEPT THAT KIND OF SOMETHING TO GO BACK AGAINST COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL'S COMMENT WHERE IF YOU DON'T GET THAT LOT LEASED BY X AMOUNT OF TIME.

THAT YOU AGREE TO PUT UP A CEDAR FENCE IN THE INTERIM UNTIL THAT LOT GETS GETS SOLD TO SLASH DEVELOPED.

THAT'S PROBABLY A GREAT IDEA.

IT HAS TO BE TIED TO THE CO OR IT'S JUST HE COULD JUST NOT DO IT AND THEN IT DOESN'T.

NO NO NO, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS TO GET THIS APPROVAL TONIGHT OKAY HE AGREES THAT HE HAS X NUMBER OF MONTHS TO GET THE LEASE ON BUILDING FIVE.

OKAY. IF HE DOESN'T GET THAT LEASE DONE IN 12 MONTHS, BECAUSE THIS PROJECT IS NOT GOING TO BE.

WELL, I'M JUST THROWING A NUMBER OUT BECAUSE THIS NUMBER, I MEAN, THIS PROJECT, IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LITTLE WHILE TO BUILD THE WHOLE PROJECT, OKAY, THAT HE HAS TO PUT UP A CEDAR FENCE AS AN INTERIM MEASURE.

UNTIL BUILDING, WHAT, 4 OR 5? HE GETS A SIGNED LEASE AND HE STARTS CONSTRUCTION ON THOSE, AND AT THAT POINT HE'LL REPLACE IT WITH A MASONRY FENCE.

WELL THE CO TYING IT TO THE CO AND THE CO IS FOR FOUR AND FIVE AND ONE, TWO AND THREE.

THE CO FOR THE FIRST ONE 2 OR 3 WOULD REQUIRE WHATEVER THE NEIGHBORS AGREE TO, AND THAT WHATEVER THAT TIMELINE IS IS THE TIMELINE THAT HE HAS.

IF ONE OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS COMES FORWARD I'M FINE WITH THAT.

I'M SAYING THAT THE CO IS HELD UP UNTIL THAT'S DONE FOR ONE, TWO AND THREE BY THE ONE, TWO AND THREE.

YEAH, I CAN'T CONTROL LOT ONE BECAUSE I'M NOT DEVELOPING THE WHATABURGER, AND I WILL PROMISE YOU THAT IF YOU TELL THEM.

THAT SENTENCE.

THERE WON'T BE A WHATABURGER.

THAT'S THE CASE TODAY.

WHATABURGER DOESN'T GET A CO UNTIL ALL OF THIS WALL AND TRAIL IS DONE.

IS THAT NOT THE HOW WE HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE TO THAT PHASE ONE DELIVERY? THAT IS TRUE TODAY BECAUSE THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN IS THAT THE DEV PERMIT CAN'T BE CLOSED OR COMPLETED UNTIL ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE ARE PUT IN, AND YOU CAN'T GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITH YOUR DEV PERMIT STILL OPEN.

SO YOU'RE SAYING LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE HAVE TO HAVE THE WALL BUILT FOR THEM TO GET A CO UNLESS WE CHANGE TODAY.

YOU'RE REQUESTING TO CHANGE IT? YES. RIGHT NOW, BASICALLY NO CO CAN BE ISSUED FOR THE PROJECT UNTIL ALL THE INITIAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS PUT IN.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A TEMPORARY FENCE.

SO WHAT I AM SUGGESTING IS AS THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTED, FOUR AND FIVE WOULD BE WOULD TRIGGER THOSE

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IF THE NEIGHBORS WOULD AGREE TO SOME SORT OF INTERIM OPTION, THAT COULD BE DONE LIKE A CEDAR FENCE THAT WOULD GIVE THEM, IF THEY EVEN AGREE TO.

WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET. THEN THAT WOULD STILL THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED IN PHASE ONE, AND THE TIMELINE OF WHATEVER THAT TIMELINE IS, AS YOU SAID, MAYOR PRO TEM, THAT, YOU KNOW, GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF A LONG RUNWAY, SO THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, AND IF LOT FOUR GETS DONE OR LOT FIVE GETS DONE IN THE MEANTIME, THEN YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. YEAH. SO BASICALLY INSTEAD OF INSTEAD OF THE CO BEING DEPENDENT FOR LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE ON THAT MASONRY WALL AND THE TRAILS BEING BUILT, THE CO IS DEPENDENT ON IF THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED, THEN THAT TEMPORARY CEDAR FENCE STRUCTURE IS INSTALLED.

IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE OKAY WITH THAT TYPE OF A COMPROMISE AND WE HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THEM YET.

SO WE'RE STILL I GUESS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM WE'RE GOING TO HAVE WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING HERE IN A MINUTE.

WELL, THE TRAIL IS ANOTHER CONVERSATION, AND I'M WHAT I'M SAYING TO GENE IS THAT I AM WILLING TO GAMBLE ON THE TRAIL BECAUSE I WANT HIM TO BE SUCCESSFUL, BUT I WILL NOT GAMBLE ON THE PRIVACY BARRIER OVER THE OBJECTIONS OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS.

I JUST HOPE THAT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE WILLING TO LOOK FOR SOME OTHER KIND OF A COMPROMISE THAT [INAUDIBLE] HIM THE FLEXIBILITY THAT HE NEEDS, AND I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR HIM, OBVIOUSLY, BUT WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE FOR US.

LIKE I SAID, I REALLY BELIEVE WE'LL BE FINISHING LOT FIVE WITHIN MONTHS OF LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND COMPLETELY THAT LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE COS CAN STILL BE ISSUED WITHOUT THE ALL THAT IN THE BACK, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LONG TIME APART.

WE'D HAVE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE TONIGHT, RIGHT? I DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT WAS SET UP, SO I APOLOGIZE.

I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT WHATABURGER COULDN'T GET A CO UNTIL THAT BACK WALL IS DONE.

MR. COLLEY, CAN YOU MOVE THAT MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARDS.

THANK YOU SIR. YES, I'M SORRY.

OKAY. SO BECAUSE WHEN THEY BUILD THEIR BUILDING AND GET IT COMPLETE, THEY'RE GOING TO WANT TO GET A CO AND THEY'RE GOING TO OPEN.

SAME THING WITH DUTCH AND SLIM.

SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THAT SAME PAGE BECAUSE.

IT MIGHT BE DEPENDENT UPON IT.

THIS IS A GOOD TIME WE TALK ABOUT IT.

TEMPORARY WALL OF SOME NATURE.

I'VE ALREADY SAID I'M HAPPY TO DO A TEMPORARY FENCE.

THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

WOULD YOU DO IT NOW, INSTEAD OF WAITING UNTIL LOT FIVE COMES FORWARD? NO. I WILL DO THE FENCE FROM LOT FOUR, BUT LOT FIVE IS GOING TO HAPPEN.

WE'RE GOING TO DO OUR CONSTRUCTION.

LET ME EXPLAIN HOW THE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING TO WORK ON THE SITE OKAY.

BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO THE SITE AS ONE THING.

OKAY, BECAUSE WE CAN'T COME IN AND JUST GRADE AND PUT IN DUTCH BECAUSE OUR UTILITIES THAT WE'RE BRINGING THROUGH THIS PROPERTY ARE MASSIVE.

WE'RE BRINGING UTILITIES ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

SO ALL THE DRAINAGE FROM LOT FIVE GO INTO THAT FRONT POND.

I HAVE TO DO THAT NOW, SO I CAN'T REALLY.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THIS EARLIER.

IF I TRY TO LEAVE IT NATURAL STATE, I'M GOING TO TEAR IT UP ANYWAY BECAUSE I'M PUTTING IN WATER, I'M PUTTING IN SEWERS, I'M PUTTING IN STORM SEWERS BECAUSE PART OF MY AGREEMENT WITH THE TOWN IS THAT I BRING EVERYTHING TO THE BACK, OKAY? AND THAT'S FINE. THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE WITH THAT.

SO WHEN I BUILD THE WALL, I'M GOING TO TAKE THE NORTH WALL, AND WE'LL CONTINUE IT ALL THE WAY AROUND AND DO IT WITH LOT FIVE WHEN WE BUILD THE WALL, BUT THE WALL WON'T HAPPEN EARLY IS WHAT I'M SAYING.

I'M ASKING ABOUT THE FENCE, WOULD YOU BE AMENABLE TO BUILDING THE CEDAR FENCE NOW, REGARDLESS OF WHEN LOT FOUR AND FIVE COME FORWARD? I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S CONTINGENT UPON US PERHAPS VOTING IN FAVOR OF THIS AND WE DON'T, THAT WOULD BE A REALLY HARD DISCUSSION TO HAVE WITH WHATABURGER, SLIM AND DUTCH, WOULDN'T IT? YEAH. I WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU SAY NOW.

SO I THINK I HEARD SOMEONE SAY, OH, YOU CAN PUT THE CEDAR FENCE UP WHEN LOT FIVE COMES FORWARD.

SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A NO, I'LL PUT THE CEDAR FENCE NOW I'LL DO THE CEDAR FENCE WHEN WE DO ALL THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT.

YOU MEAN FIVE AND FOUR? NO, NO. ONE, TWO AND THREE.

YES. OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

WELL, TOMORROW. I CAN'T DO IT.

I DON'T MEAN IMMEDIATELY TOMORROW BUT.

SO WE'LL DO WE'RE GOING TO DO THE WHOLE ALL THE GRADING AT ONE TIME.

ALL THE UTILITIES AT ONE TIME.

EVEN FOR LOTS FOUR AND FIVE THEY WILL ALL BE IN THERE.

SO EVERYTHING WILL HAPPEN, AND SO WHEN WE BUILD THE WALL, WE'LL BUILD ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END OF LOT FIVE, AND THEN WE'LL DO A CEDAR FENCE FROM THAT POINT ON AS A TEMPORARY FENCE. SO THAT'LL COME WITH ONE, TWO AND THREE IN WHAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER PHASE ONE OF YOUR PROJECT.

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IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE CO OF THE THIRD BUILDING, AND I DON'T THINK I WOULD VOTE FOR ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE TIED TO THE CO BEING ISSUED FOR THE THIRD.

OKAY. IT WOULD HAVE TO BE THE FIRST BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS TO HAVE THERE HAS TO BE AN INCENTIVE TO GET THIS DONE AND NOT DELAY, AND I'M EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT THERE NOT BEING ANY SCREENING AT ALL WHEN ALL THIS CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON AND THIS MASSIVE TEARING UP AND MASSIVE INSTALLATION OF ALL THESE UTILITIES, IT'S GOING TO BE A DISASTER.

SO I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY. PHASE ONE IS THE CO FOR THE FIRST BUILDING.

BECAUSE JUST BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE TO CLOSE OUT THEIR DEV PERMIT, THE INFRASTRUCTURE PERMIT.

YOU CAN'T ISSUE A CO FOR A BUILDING TO OPEN WHEN THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS NOT COMPLETE YET.

SO THEIR PHASE ONE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PHASE ONE THAT WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE FIRST COE CAN BE ISSUED.

SO IT SEEMS LIKE WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED IS WHAT IS PART OF THAT PHASE ONE INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT WAS INITIALLY ASKED TO BE DELAYED SO THAT PHASE ONE COULD JUST BASICALLY BE CONSIDERED LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE AND THAT TOP MASONRY WALL, AND NOW IT'S BEING DISCUSSED.

WELL, MAYBE IT'S LOTS ONE, TWO AND THREE, THE TOP MASONRY WALL AND A CEDAR FENCE ALONG THE WESTERN WALL.

SO THAT WOULD THAT'S WHAT I'M HEARING, IS WHAT'S BEING CONSIDERED.

THANK YOU, LEXIN.

COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. COLLEY. MR. MILLER. MS. YOUNGBLOOD, HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? ALL RIGHT. IF THERE'S NO FURTHER QUESTIONS, THE TIME IS NOW 8:17 AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM 2ZPD23-0005.

TWO COMMENT CARDS.

WE'LL START OFF WITH MR. KURT ANDERSEN. PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD, AND YOU WILL HAVE THREE MINUTES.

PLEASE DIRECT ALL YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS US, YOUR TOWN COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. MAYOR. FRANCE COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST TIME BEING HERE.

I HOPE I DO WELL. I OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S AT 2929 SAGEBRUSH, WHICH IS DIRECTLY WEST OF IT, WHICH IS A LARGER PORTION OF 5.39 ACRES, AND WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO SELL THAT FOR ABOUT FOUR YEARS.

I PROBABLY HAVE CONTACTED OVER 100 CONTACTS ON IT.

I'VE PROBABLY SHOWN IT ABOUT, WHAT, 30, 40 TIMES THIS YEAR, AND MOST OF THE CONCERN IS BECAUSE IT'S ESTATE RESIDENTIAL. WE CANNOT CHANGE THAT.

IF IT WAS BACKING UP TO COMMERCIAL AND IF IT WAS MULTIFAMILY OR MEDIUM DENSITY, IT WOULD SELL LIKE THAT IN A HEARTBEAT BUT IT'S ESTATE RESIDENTIAL, SO THE ONLY THING WE CAN DO IS TO KEEP IT AS PRIVATE AS POSSIBLE, BECAUSE ALL OTHER ESTATE RESIDENTIAL, IF THERE'S ANY, IS GOING TO HAVE A WALL OR A ROOM OR A STREET BARRIER.

I'M OKAY WITH THE WOODEN FENCE.

I'M OKAY WITH THE BUILDING. I'M OKAY WITH WHATABURGER.

I LIKE WHATABURGER, SO I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT IT'S JUST THAT FOR US TO EVEN HAVE AN ATTEMPT OR WE'VE DROPPED THE PRICE ON IT, WE'VE HAD OFFERS.

WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE HAD A CONTRACT GOING THROUGH THAT WAS GOING TO GO STRAIGHT THROUGH TO 2499 AT ONE POINT, AND THAT FELL THROUGH.

SO THERE ARE COST IMPLICATIONS FOR EVERYBODY FOR THEM AS WELL.

I WANT THEM TO GET THE JOB DONE AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

I WAS TALKING WITH TAD EARLIER TODAY.

I SAID IF WE CAN GET A SEAT OR FENCE UP TEMPORARILY AND THAT WAY IT'S CEDAR FENCE IS GOING TO BE LESS EXPENSIVE THAN A WALL.

THEY CAN TAKE IT DOWN AND MOVE IT WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT IT GIVES US THAT PRIVACY SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY, WHEN WE SHOW IT AND WALK THAT LAND, WHEN THE PEACOCKS ARE RUNNING, THE COYOTES ARE RUNNING, THE BOBCATS ARE OUT THERE.

WE CAN WALK THAT LAND SHOW IT AND SAY, LOOK, THIS IS YOUR BARRIER.

THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO SEE, BUT IF THEY LOOK AT IT AND THERE'S LIKE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON, THEY'RE GOING TO ASK THEMSELVES, AND I THINK ADAM WAS CORRECT.

I CAN'T PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME.

SORRY, BUT ADAM WAS CORRECT.

THERE'S A PORTION OF LAND JUST TO THE SOUTH AND IT'S THE BACK PORTION IT'S BEEN FOR SALE FOR.

I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG, BUT IT'S THERE AND IT'S HARD TO KIND OF SELL, AND I HAVE ALL THE HOPE IN THE WORLD THAT HE'S GOING TO SELL, GET THE PLACES IN FOR FIVE AND FOUR, BUT I JUST DON'T KNOW WHEN, AND THE THING IS, IS EVERY MONTH COSTS.

I'M FINISHING MY SPEECH, BUT EVERY MONTH IS ABOUT $6,000.

THAT IS COSTING ME.

SO I'M NOT RICH, BUT YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN REAL ESTATE FOR 20 YEARS.

I'VE BEEN LIVING IN FLOWER MOUND AT 3632 BONANZA LANE, BEEN LIVING IN STONE HILL FARMS. SO I BUILT TWO HOMES HERE, BEEN HERE FOR LIKE 24 OR 25 YEARS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THE AREA, I UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES, I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP GROWING, BUT I JUST NEED TO HAVE THAT LITTLE PRIVACY TO HELP US TO GET IT MOVED AND GET IT SOLD.

THANK YOU, MR. ANDERSON.

NEXT WE'LL HAVE MR. TAD MARCO.

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I'M TAD MARCO. I LIVE AT 2829 SAGEBRUSH AND MY PROPERTY, AND I ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.

IT BUTTS UP TO THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF LOT FIVE THERE.

AND GENE'S CORRECT.

WE DID HAVE A TELEPHONE CALL TODAY.

I KIND OF CO-ORDINATED BETWEEN ME AND KURT AND HIM, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS.

I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OPTIONS ON THAT CALL, SO I WASN'T REALLY PLANNING ON SPEAKING.

I WAS JUST KIND OF LET THINGS JUST KIND OF KEEP INERTIA GOING, BUT HEARING MR. SCHIESTEL TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIS CONCERNS WITH THE PRIVACY, I MEAN, THAT DEFINITELY STRIKES HOME.

I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DEVELOPER IS SINCERE IN HIS DESIRE TO GET THIS PROJECT DONE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

I'M HAPPY WITH THE DAYCARE THERE.

I'M HAPPY WITH THE WHOLE PROJECT.

I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE A NICE PROJECT.

MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST THE PRIVACY AND THE INTERIM, ESPECIALLY IF THEY CLEAR THAT AND THERE'S NO LONGER THAT SCRUBBY, DIFFICULT TO TRAIPSE THROUGH BARRIER TO KEEP TRESPASSERS AND STUFF OUT, WHICH IS ALREADY A PROBLEM THAT I HAVE BECAUSE OF THAT UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY BEHIND ANGEL VET.

SO I'M HAPPY WITH A TEMPORARY BARRIER AS LONG AS IT'S THERE AS EARLY AS POSSIBLE AND AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

EXCELLENT, SIR. THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THERESA.

DO WE HAVE ANY MORE GREEN COMMENT CARDS? I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS 8:22 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

I DID WANT TO MENTION THAT WE DIDN'T HEAR HOW MANY FEET THE FENCE SHOULD BE AMENABLE TO BOTH PARTIES SIX FEET, EIGHT FEET, AND NOT 12FT, AND ON WHAT SIDE THE POLES SHOULD BE? IS THERE ANY BARRIER LEXIN TO THE POLES BEING ON THE EAST SIDE? GIVING THE RESIDENTIAL AREA THE PRETTY SIDE OF THE FENCE.

NO, I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK THE ONLY TIME, I THINK THE ONLY TIME THERE'S A RULE ABOUT WHICH SIDE THEY FACE IS WHEN YOU HAVE A POOL.

OKAY. BECAUSE I THINK I WOULD BE LEANING TOWARD.

A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN ALL PARTIES.

IF WE HAVE THE FENCE IN PLACE, IF IT'S OF SUFFICIENT HEIGHT, MEANING EIGHT FEET POLES TO THE EAST, AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE INSTALLED WITH BEFORE THE CO OF BUILDING LOT ONE.

CORRECT. IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING? YEAH. IT HAS TO BE TIED TO THE FIRST CO BECAUSE THAT'S THE PHASE ONE STANDARD.

I YOU KNOW, HEIGHT WISE I WOULD SAY WHATEVER THE MASONRY WALL HEIGHT IS GOING TO BE, I WOULD PROBABLY BE OKAY WITH THE FENCE OF THE SAME HEIGHT.

LEXIN A FENCING STANDARD.

YOU KNOW, JUST SAY FENCE.

I MEAN, THAT COULD BE A LOT OF THINGS, BUT IS THERE A FENCING KIND OF STANDARD BOARD ON BOARD PRIVACY FENCE THAT WOULD SORT OF ACCOMPLISH? YES. WE HAVE FENCING STANDARD IN CHAPTER I'M GOING TO LOOK AT TOMMY TO SEE IF HE CAN HELP ME.

WE HAVE OUR STANDARD FOR WHEN YOU USE WOOD FENCES THAT ARE ADJACENT TO STREETS.

I DON'T REMEMBER WHICH CHAPTER THAT'S IN.

I THINK IT'S 98. I'M CHECKING.

NO, I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE. IT'S THE CODE ENFORCEMENT STANDARD.

IT'S IN LIKE A SUBPART A.

YES, I'LL FIND IT. OKAY, BUT LEXIN THE MASONRY FENCE.

WHAT HEIGHT? IT WOULD BE SIX FEET.

SIX. SO THEN THE FENCE AT SIX FEET WOULD ALSO SEEM TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

LEXIN CAN YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 21? I THINK THAT HAD ALL OF THE EXCEPTIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO LOSE SIGHT JUST BECAUSE WE HAD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WALL.

THERE WERE SOME OTHER THINGS RETENTION POND, THE STEP THING, THE FENCE I DIDN'T I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.

OKAY, AND THEN THE TRAIL CONNECTION, I GUESS.

YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE OTHER THING I MIGHT RECOMMEND IS TO MAKE.

CURRENTLY, THE THE ENTIRE CONNECTION IS REQUIRED FOR THE FIRST CO.

NOW, WHAT THE APPLICANT IS ASKING FOR IS TO BREAK IT APART INTO FOUR AND FIVE SEPARATE ITEMS. I'D KIND OF LIKE TO SEE IT GET DONE WHEN EITHER 4 OR 5 COMES FORWARD.

JUST GO AHEAD AND DO THE WHOLE THING.

THAT'S ONE CHANGE I WOULD MAKE TO IT.

JUST MAKE IT SO THE LANGUAGE OF AS EACH LOT DEVELOPS.

I WOULD SAY WHEN THE FIRST OF EITHER LOT DEVELOPS.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ITEM THREE.

YEAH, THIS IS THREE, AND IT'S JUST THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS IN THERE FOR THE LANDSCAPE AND THE MASONRY WALL AND.

I DON'T KNOW THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO NECESSARILY DO THE FIRE LANE CURB CUTS BECAUSE YOU WON'T KNOW THE BUILDING, BUT YOU MEAN JUST THE FENCE? YEAH. I'M MORE TALKING ABOUT THE LANDSCAPE AREA AND THE COMPATIBILITY BUFFER AND THE, AND I AGREE WITH THAT.

YEAH. ITEM THREE A AND B BUT YEAH I AGREE WITH YOU JIM.

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LEXIN, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO WAIT UNTIL SITE PLAN COMES.

YES I THINK SO. OKAY I THINK WE'RE ON THREE A, B AND C, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. TO BE AMENDED AS TO SAY WHEN EITHER LOT 4 OR 5.

YES, YES.

JUST MAKING SURE WE GET ALL THAT ON THE RECORD SO [INAUDIBLE] FIVE.

SO IT WOULD BE THE EARLIER OF THE EARLIER OF.

YES. WHAT BRYN SAID, AND THE CEDAR FENCE, SO WE HAVE TO TIE THAT TO THE CO.

WE CAN'T DO IT EARLIER BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION OF CONSTRUCTION.

IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT TO TIE IT TO SOMETHING SPECIFIC BESIDES THE COMPLETION OF THE THE FIRST PHASE OF INFRASTRUCTURE.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO JUST PUT THINGS THAT ARE TIME BASED AS A ZONING STANDARD BECAUSE THEN IF THE PERSON FAILS TO MEET IT BY THAT DATE, THEN THERE'S KIND OF NO WAY THEN TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE ZONING AND THEN THEY HAVE TO AMEND THE PD, AND THEN SO TYPICALLY WE DISCOURAGE PUTTING LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITHIN TWO MONTHS OR SOMETHING.

BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S REALLY NOT A GOOD MECHANISM FOR ENFORCEMENT WHEN IT'S JUST BASED ON THAT THROUGH THROUGH A ZONING STANDARD. SO IT'LL BE THE FIRST CO.

THERE'S TWO TRADITIONAL WAYS THAT YOU TRY TO ESTABLISH PERFORMANCE RELATED TO DEVELOPMENT LIKE THIS.

THE FIRST ONE IS PRIOR TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION.

THE SECOND ONE IS TYPICALLY I GUESS THERE'S THREE.

SECOND ONE IS PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A BUILDING PERMIT, AND THEN THE THIRD IS WHAT Y'ALL BEEN TALKING ABOUT PRIOR TO THE ISSUANCE OF A CO IN A COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.

TYPICALLY WHAT WE SEE IS THAT THE BUILDINGS WILL START GOING VERTICAL A CERTAIN STAGE WITHIN THE PERMIT THE SUBDIVISION, AND GENERALLY THEY THEY KIND OF ARRIVE AT THE SAME POINT.

SO WHETHER YOU APPLY IT TO THE ACCEPTANCE OF THE SUBDIVISION OR THE CO, IT REALLY MAKES NO DIFFERENCE FROM A TIMING PERSPECTIVE IN THIS IN THIS CASE, AND I WOULD SAY I HAVE DETAILS ON THE FENCING STANDARD, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE EIGHT DIFFERENT STANDARDS, AND WE GET TO THE POINT OF WHAT KIND OF NAILS AND FASTENERS THEY HAVE TO USE. SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE FENCE, IT'S BOARD ON BOARD WITH A NOMINAL SIZE ONE INCH BY FOUR INCH TRIM BOARD AT THE TOP OF THE FENCE AND YOU HAVE TO USE.

LET'S SEE MINIMUM THREE RAILS TO BE USED.

IF YOU'RE DOING SIX FOOT MINIMUM OF FOUR, IF YOU'RE DOING EIGHT FOOT, THE REST OF IT.

HOT DIP, GALVANIZED NAILS.

I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL WANT TO GET TO THAT KIND OF SPECIFIC.

NO. DOES IT HAVE TO BE STAINED? THE STAINING REQUIREMENTS IS PRE-STAINED WESTERN RED CEDAR AND MEDIUM BROWN COLOR OR COMPOSITE MATERIAL IN REDWOOD CEDAR.

SO THE LANGUAGE I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT THE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CEDAR FENCE THAT MEETS STREET ADJACENCY PRIVACY FENCE STANDARDS, AND HAS THE POLES ON THE EAST SIDE.

I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE STANDARD, ISN'T IT? IS THAT THEY CAN'T. YES, I THINK IT'S WELL, ACTUALLY IT'S HARD TO SAY WHICH SIDE WOULD BE OKAY.

THE SECTION IS PERIMETER FENCE STANDARDS.

IT'S SECTION 14-542.

THE ONE THING TO CONSIDER ABOUT WHICH SIDE THE POLES ARE ON.

IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PRIVACY AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT PEOPLE GOING BACK THERE IS IT'S MUCH EASIER TO CLIMB A FENCE FROM THE SIDE WITH THE POLES ON IT, BECAUSE YOU USE YOU USE THE HORIZONTAL BARS TO CLIMB UP.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT HOW ATTRACTIVE IT WOULD LOOK VERSUS, BUT FROM A SECURITY STANDPOINT, BUT THEY CAN JUST WALK AROUND THE FRONT AND WALK THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

IF THEY WANT TO GET INTO YOUR BACKYARD.

I WOULD THINK YOU DON'T HAVE A FENCE ACROSS YOUR FRONT YARD.

LONG WAYS BACK THERE.

I MEAN, THE LENGTH OF THE FENCE WOULD BE THE SAME IF IT'S A MASONRY FENCE OR A CEDAR FENCE.

SO THEY CAN STILL WALK DOWN TO THE ANGEL, RIGHT, AND WALK AROUND.

THAT'S JUST HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, THAT'S WHY.

ADAM, DO YOU WANT TO TAKE A [INAUDIBLE].

WELL, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET THE LANGUAGE RIGHT ON THE SECOND ONE.

SO SECTION THREE A, B AND C TAKES EFFECT WHEN THE EARLIER OF LOT 4 OR 5 DEVELOPS.

OKAY. YEAH, THAT SOUNDS CORRECT.

YES. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? YOU GUYS HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR LEXIN? ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? THANK YOU LEXIN. WE'LL CONTINUE WITH DISCUSSION.

OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ONE REAL QUICK THING BEFORE WE DO HAVE A MOTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT THE CUTTING UP, CLEANING UP THAT AREA.

[02:30:01]

YEAH. SOUNDS LIKE THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE YEAH, I THINK IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DURING THE DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK IT'S WATER AND SEWER IN.

YEAH. WE'LL JUST BE ALL RIPPED UP.

ALL RIGHT, ADAM. ALL RIGHT.

MOVE APPROVAL OF REGULAR ITEM K-2 WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS.

WESTERN PROPERTY LINE IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A CEDAR FENCE THAT MEETS STREET ADJACENCY.

PRIVACY FENCE STANDARDS, AND SECTION THREE A, B, AND C TAKES EFFECT WHEN THE EARLIER OF LOT 4 OR 5 DEVELOPS.

SECOND. BRYN, DID WE GET IT? YES, SIR. EXCELLENT.

ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION.

THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ITEM K2ZPD23-0005 EMBREE 2499 PASSES WITH AMENDMENTS BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[K.3. ZPD23-0009 - Townlake Phase Four (PD-166) Text Amendment - Public Hearing to consider a request for rezoning (ZPD23-0009 – Townlake Phase Four (PD-166) Text Amendment) to amend Planned Development District No. 166 (PD-166) for a cluster development by adding a Public Park or Playground as a permitted use. The property is generally located south of Cross Timbers Road and east of Flower Mound Road. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 6 to 0 at its October 9, 2023, meeting.)]

THANK YOU MAYOR. AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE TOWNLAKE PHASE FOUR ZPD.

IT'S A TEXT AMENDMENT TO ADD A PARK AS AN ALLOWED USE WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT.

SO HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

THE PIECE THAT WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED HERE IS THE LAND THAT HAS BEEN DEDICATED AS A PARK THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS TO THE TOWN.

SO HERE'S A MORE CLOSE UP VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

THE LAND USE IS CROSS TIMBERS CONSERVATION DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT IS RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND THE ZONING IS PD 166 FOR A CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT. SO AGAIN HERE'S THAT PROPERTY.

YOU CAN SEE IT WAS 13.11 ACRES, WAS DEDICATED AS PARKLAND TO THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND THROUGH THE PLATTING PROCESS.

THIS IS THE LIST OF PERMITTED USES WITHIN THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT.

J DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST, SO THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE TO ADD.

IT WAS PREVIOUSLY LISTED FOR TENNIS COURTS AS WELL AS A SWIMMING POOL.

I THINK THE ORIGINAL INTENT, OR THE ORIGINAL THOUGHT WAS THAT THIS WOULD POTENTIALLY DEVELOP AS THE TENNIS CENTER.

THAT WAS NOT APPROVED THROUGH THE ELECTION.

SO NOW WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN CAN DEVELOP THIS WITH ALL WHATEVER AMENITIES ARE IDENTIFIED THROUGH THE PARK PLANNING PROCESS THAT PARKS UNDERGOES.

HERE'S A COUPLE OF IMAGES OF THE SITE LOOKING SOUTH, AND THIS IS LOOKING SOUTHEAST AND LOOKING NORTH FROM MARK TWAIN. SO AGAIN, HERE'S THAT PROPERTY WE DID.

I'M NOT SURE IF THEY WENT TO COUNCIL AS WELL.

WE DID RECEIVE A COUPLE OF KIND OF QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

PEOPLE HAD CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THE PROPERTY WOULD BE, HOW THE PARK WOULD POTENTIALLY BE ACCESSED, WHETHER IT WOULD COME OFF OF MARK TWAIN.

IN TALKING TO CHUCK JENNINGS, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THAT'S REALLY PART OF THE PARK PLANNING PROCESS.

WE'LL DEFINITELY WANT TO GET THAT FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS IF IF THAT'S NOT HOW THEY WANT IT TO ACCESS, AND TALKING TO ENGINEERING, I DO BELIEVE THERE IS ADEQUATE FRONTAGE ACROSS ACROSS CROSS TIMBERS TO HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ACCESS POINTS THERE, IF THAT'S WHAT THE FEEDBACK THEY GET DURING THE PARK PLANNING PROCESS IS, BUT THIS IS REALLY A CLEANUP ITEM, IF YOU WILL, THAT ALLOWS US TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THIS LAND AS A PARK THAT WE DON'T HAVE TODAY.

THAT'S CORRECT. LEXIN IF YOU GO BACK TO SLIDE 32.

DOES PARK OR PLAYGROUND PUBLIC CONTEMPLATE? ALSO PICKLEBALL? DO WE HAVE TO BE THAT SPECIFIC BECAUSE IT SAYS TENNIS? IT DOESN'T SAY PICKLEBALL.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE THAT SPECIFIC.

IT WOULD ALLOW FOR PICKLEBALL.

THE ONLY REASON I DIDN'T I DIDN'T SUGGEST THAT WE CUT TENNIS COURTS AND JUST SAY PARK OR PLAYGROUND PUBLIC JUST BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL LIKE THEY WERE MISLED. IF THERE ARE SOME TENNIS COURTS THAT ARE BUILT AS PART OF THIS PARK.

SO WE JUST LEFT TENNIS COURTS ON THERE AND THEN JUST PUT THE GENERIC TERM THAT WOULD CAPTURE ALL OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENT.

GOOD, AND SO THE HOMES THAT HAVE THEIR BACKYARDS ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY, WOULD THE PARK PLANNING PROCESS INCLUDE PERHAPS SCREENING FOR THEM, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING, SOME KIND OF BUFFER? I'LL LET CHUCK COME AND SPEAK TO THE PARK PLANNING PROCESS.

I THINK THEY DO. MR. JENNINGS, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.

SURPRISE QUESTION.

CHUCK JENNINGS, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR.

SAW YOU LOOKING OVER AT ME.

YEAH SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS, WE'RE CERTAINLY GOING TO HEAR ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM THE PUBLIC, THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL UNDERSTAND IF THERE IS PICKLEBALL. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY NOISE WITH THAT AS WELL.

SO YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT AS FAR AWAY FROM HOMES AS POSSIBLE, BUT SCREENING TREES, LANDSCAPING BUFFERS, THINGS LIKE THAT, WE CAN CERTAINLY LOOK AT BECAUSE I THINK WE DID

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IT'S NOTHING WILL EVER COME THERE.

WHICH OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WAS NEVER TRUE.

THAT WAS NEVER TRUE. WELL WE'VE ALWAYS [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT.

SO I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW.

YEAH SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE MISLED.

THE PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH WITH THE MASTER PLAN PROCESS, AND THEY'RE ALREADY OUT THERE SURVEYING THE LAND, AND WE'RE GETTING READY TO HAVE OUR KICKOFF MEETING OCTOBER ON HALLOWEEN. SO WE'LL BE GETTING STUFF OUT TO THE PUBLIC SOON ABOUT PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND THINGS.

SO I SAW THAT EMAIL AND IT'S ALREADY A TOWN PARK.

IT'S ALREADY TOWN PROPERTY.

SO NONE OF THAT IS CHANGING.

IT'S JUST A MATTER OF IF THEY WANT TO STEER THE OUTCOME OF HOW THE ACCESS IS SET UP OR WHAT KIND OF ACTIVITIES ARE GOING, THIS WILL BE THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.

ABSOLUTELY. YEAH THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I DID REPLY TO THAT.

GOOD. RIGHT.

SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING CUT OUT OF THIS AT ALL.

THEY'RE GOING TO BE ENGAGED EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.

PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY ONLINE AS WELL AS IN PERSON.

THANK YOU. YOU BETCHA.

THANK YOU SIR. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, SO THE TIME IS NOW 8:36 AND I'M OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 3ZPD23-0009 .

I DO NOT. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE.

THE TIME IS 8:37 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K3ZPD23-0009 AS PRESENTED.

SECOND, ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

ITEM 3 ZPD23-0009 PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO ITEM M.

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

[N. RECONVENE]

I MOVE TO APPROVE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE TOWN MANAGER'S COMPENSATION, AS DISCUSSED IN CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND. ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION.

THERESA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

THE MOTION FOR ADJUSTMENT PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.