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>> GOOD EVENING, FLOWER MOUND.

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THE TIME IS NOW SIX O'CLOCK AND I CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

[A. CALL TO ORDER]

PLEASE RISE FOR THE INVOCATION AND PLEDGES.

CHAPLIN RICHARD PLUNK, PLEASE COME FORWARD TO LEAD US IN THE INVOCATION.

>> IF I GET THE LEAD, DOES THAT MEAN EVERYBODY FOLLOWS?

>> YES, SIR.

>> LET'S PRAY. MOST KIND HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME TO YOU TONIGHT AND WE ASK YOUR PRESENCE IN THIS HOUSE ON THIS SPECIAL DAY LORD, WHEN WE REMEMBER ALL THE THINGS IN OUR HISTORY THAT MAKE US WHO WE ARE TODAY.

FATHER, I THANK YOU FOR THE VERY FACT THAT WE GET TO LIVE AND SERVE IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

I PRAY FOR OUR LEADERSHIP LORD.

THE SCRIPTURES TELL US TO PRAY FOR THEM SO I DO PRAY FOR OUR TOWN COUNCIL, OUR MAYOR, OUR STAFF, AND THOSE AT SERVICE.

I PRAY TONIGHT FOR THESE SPECIAL PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HONORING, AND I PRAY YOUR BLESSINGS WOULD BE UPON THEM.

I PRAY FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AND HOW THEY SERVE AS FATHER, TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY.

BUT TONIGHT, LORD, I SPECIFICALLY ASK FOR YOUR PIECE TO BE IN THIS HOUSE.

MAY YOUR DIRECTION BE WITH US AND MAY OUTCOMES COME BETTER AND PLEASING TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE.

AND I THANK YOU AND I ASK THIS IN JESUS NAME. AMEN.

>> AMEN. THANK YOU CHAPLIN.

PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AND THE PLEDGE TO OUR TEXAS FLAG.

>> WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYONE WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO PRESENTATIONS.

[D. PRESENTATION(S)]

I'LL BE COMING DOWN FRONT, IF I COULD GET MS. ABIGAIL COUNTS TO JOIN ME DOWN BY THE PODIUM.

GOOD EVENING, ABIGAIL, THANKS FOR COMING.

DID HE TELL EVERYBODY YOUR STORY YET?

>> NO.

>> NO. WELL, I'M GOING TO HELP TELL YOUR STORY A LITTLE BIT.

CAN WE WHEEL AROUND SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT THAT CAMERA BECAUSE THERE'S ABOUT A MILLION PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME.

[LAUGHTER] THERE WE GO.

SO EVERYONE, THIS IS ABIGAIL COUNTS.

IF YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO HER AFTER OUR MEETING, SHE'S GOT A GREAT STORY.

SO MUCH SO THAT I REALLY WANTED TO TAKE THE TIME TO PRESENT HER WITH A CERTIFICATE OF ACHIEVEMENT.

SO THIS IS BEING PRESENTED TO ABIGAIL IN RECOGNITION OF YOUR UIL STATE TITLE ACHIEVEMENTS IN SLEET SEEDED SHOT PUT, WHEELCHAIR 100-METER DASH, AND WHEELCHAIR 400.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT, ON YOUR STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.

[APPLAUSE] THIS IS FOR YOU.

WE'RE GOING TO GET A PHOTO AND I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT HERE FOR YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND CONGRATULATIONS.

[APPLAUSE] THANK YOU SO MUCH.

BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE. WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION FOR FOUNDERS CLASSICAL ACADEMY AND THEIR FIRST GRADUATING CLASS.

IF MR. GENE HOLLOWAY THE HEADMASTER COULD JOIN ME UP HERE. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

>> GOOD EVENING.

>> WE'RE GOING TO STAND BACK HERE AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK IN THAT CAMERA.

FOR THE MILLIONS WATCHING AT HOME AND FOR SOME OF THE FIRST TIMERS HERE THIS EVENING PROCLAMATIONS ARE A BIG DEAL AROUND HERE.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I GO AHEAD AND TAKE THE TIME TO READ EVERY WHEREAS.

HERE WE GO. FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR, A PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS FOUNDERS CLASSICAL ACADEMY, FLOWER MOUND, THE ACADEMY OPEN THEIR DOORS IN FLOWER MOUND IN 2015, AND WHEREAS THE ACADEMY IS A PUBLIC CHARTER SCHOOL WITH EMPHASIS ON PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE TRADITIONAL LIBERAL ARTS AND SCIENCES EDUCATION FOR THEIR STUDENTS.

WHEREAS THE ACADEMY SEEKS TO PROVIDE AN EXCELLENT AND DISTINCTIVE CLASSICAL EDUCATION THAT PURSUES KNOWLEDGE, PROMOTES VIRTUE, AND PREPARE STUDENTS FOR A PROSPEROUS LIVES IN A FREE SOCIETY.

WHEREAS THEY ARE COMMITTED TO THE MANY ACCOLADES RECEIVED THROUGH THE YEARS,

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INCLUDING HE BEST OF DENTON COUNTY IN 2021.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND EXTENDS CONGRATULATIONS TO THE ACADEMY'S FIRST GRADUATING CLASS ON MAY 27TH, 2023.

WHEREAS THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND RECOGNIZES AND APPRECIATES ALL THE LEADERS, TEACHERS, AND VOLUNTEERS THAT UNSELFISHLY CONTRIBUTE THEIR GIFTS AND TALENTS FOR THE BENEFIT OF STUDENTS.

NOW, THEREFORE, I, DEREK FRANCE MAYOR, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS, AND ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR TOWN COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JUNE 19TH, 2023 AS FOUNDERS CLASSICAL ACADEMY DAY PROCLAIMED AND SIGNED ON THIS 19TH DAY OF JUNE 2023.

[APPLAUSE].

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT'S MY HONOR AND MY PLEASURE AS A K-12 CHARTER SCHOOL, IT'S A PUBLIC SCHOOL, NONETHELESS, IS TO SERVICE THIS COMMUNITY.

WE'VE BEEN GREETED WITH OPEN ARMS, WE WERE AT PARKER SQUARE NOW WE'RE JUST DOWN OFF OF 1171 AND 2499, I MEAN THAT'S GIVING FLOWER MOUND ROAD CROSSING THE PUMPKIN PATCH.

AND SO WE WANT TO BE MORE INVOLVED WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, FOR EVERYTHING YOU EMBODY AND FOR THE COMMUNITY.

WITH THAT, THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. [APPLAUSE]

>> I SEE THEM ALL IN THE ROOM HERE.

NEXT UP, NUMBER 3, PROCLAMATION FOR NATIONAL PARKS AND RECREATION MONTH, ACCEPTING IS MR. CHUCK JENNINGS AND STAFF AND BIG TEAM.

IT'S JUST A PORTION. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PROBABLY DOUBLE LAYER HERE, TO GO WITH THE WIDE SHOT. WHEN THE MUSIC STOPS, EVERYBODY HAS TO HAVE A SPOT THOUGH.

MR. JENNINGS, HERE WE GO.

STAFF, FROM THE OFFICE OF THE MAYOR A PROCLAMATION.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS ARE AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THIS COUNTRY, INCLUDING THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION ENCOURAGES PHYSICAL ACTIVITIES, PROVIDING SPACE FOR POPULAR SPORTS, HIKING TRAILS, SWIMMING POOLS, AND MANY OTHER ACTIVITIES DESIGNED TO PROMOTE ACTIVE LIFESTYLES.

WHEREAS, OUR PARKS ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN OUR COMMUNITIES.

ENSURING THE HEALTH OF ALL OUR CITIZENS AND CONTRIBUTING TO THE ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL WELL-BEING OF A COMMUNITY AND REGION.

WHEREAS, PARKS AND RECREATION PROGRAMS INCREASE A COMMUNITY'S ECONOMIC PROSPERITY THROUGH PROPERTY VALUES, TOURISM, BUSINESS RECRUITMENT, IN RETENTION, AND CRIME REDUCTION.

WHEREAS, OUR PARKS AND NATURAL RECREATION AREAS ENSURE THE ECOLOGICAL BEAUTY OF OUR COMMUNITY AND PROVIDE A PLACE FOR CHILDREN AND ADULTS TO CONNECT WITH NATURE.

WHEREAS, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND RECOGNIZES THE BENEFITS DERIVED FROM PARKS AND RECREATION RESOURCES.

NOW, THEREFORE I, DEREK FRANCE, MAYOR, THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

ON BEHALF OF THE MEMBERS OF YOUR TOWN COUNCIL, DO HEREBY PROCLAIM JULY 2023 AS PARK AND RECREATION MONTH.

PROCLAIMED AND SIGNED ON THIS 19TH DAY OF JUNE 2023.

[APPLAUSE]

>> MR. JENNINGS, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS?

>> WELL, THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL.

IT'S AN HONOR TO HAVE YOU GUYS PROCLAIM JULY AS PARKS AND REC MONTH.

SORRY FOR ALL THE WHEREAS'S MAYOR, I THINK THEY ACTUALLY CUT A FEW OUT THOUGH.

BUT AS YOU CAN TELL, THE BENEFITS ARE ENDLESS TO HAVING A ROBUST PARK SYSTEM, THERE'S LOTS OF BENEFITS AND WE HAVE AN AMAZING SYSTEM HERE.

THIS YEAR'S THEME IS WHERE COMMUNITY GROWS AND IT CELEBRATES THE VITAL ROLE THAT PARKS AND REC PROFESSIONALS PLAY IN BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER, PROVIDING ESSENTIAL SERVICES AND FOSTERING THE GROWTH OF OUR COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE AN AMAZING TEAM RIGHT HERE, AND WE HAVE A LOT MORE, BUT THESE FOLKS CAME OUT AND WANTED TO BE REPRESENTED TONIGHT AND I APPRECIATE THEM.

THEY CERTAINLY TAKE A LOT OF OWNERSHIP IN WHAT THEY DO.

THEY'RE VERY DEDICATED FOLKS AND THAT'S WHAT ALLOWS US TO HAVE GOOD-QUALITY EVENTS, FACILITIES, AND PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO OFFER FOR YOU GUYS.

I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU GUYS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.

I APPRECIATE YOUR STELLAR WORK IN RAISING

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OUR B AND L TO PROVIDE A GOOD QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR RESIDENTS.

SO EACH YEAR, OUR STAFF CREATES A CALENDAR, IT'S A PARKS AND REC MONTH CALENDAR FOR JULY.

WE COME UP WITH ALL THESE SUGGESTIONS ON THINGS YOU COULD DO EACH DAY TO GET OUT AND SEE YOUR PARK SYSTEM.

THERE'S A LOTS OF COOL STUFF ON THERE AND THERE'S CALENDARS OUT THERE YOU WANT TO TAKE ONE ON THE WAY HOME.

WHEN JULY ROLLS AROUND WE GET CLOSER, WE'LL BE PUTTING STUFF OUT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO SOME OF THINGS THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING.

SOME OF MY FAVORITES ARE GOING TO BE WE HAVE REALLY COOL PHOTO CONTEST THIS JULY.

MS. [INAUDIBLE] WORKING ON HARD, SO I HOPE ALL YOU GUYS PARTICIPATE IN OUR PHOTO CONTESTS.

ANOTHER ONE THAT'S REALLY COOL IS TO RENT A STAND-UP PADDLE BOARD AT [INAUDIBLE] RIGHT THERE, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEE YOU, RESERVE THAT FOR YOU.

AND THEN OUR RECENTLY RENAMED TRAIL AT HERITAGE PARK, IT'S THE GARY SIMS WILDLIFE ENCOUNTER NATURE TRAIL.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GO SEE THAT.

YOU'RE GUARANTEED TO SEE WILDLIFE.

CHECK THAT OUT, THAT'S AT HERITAGE PARK.

AND THEN THERE'S SO MUCH TO DO, WE HAVE 57 PARKS OVER 1,000 ACRES OF PARK LAND.

REALLY COOL, STATE-OF-THE-ART RECREATIONAL FACILITIES LIKE OUR SENIOR CENTER AND OUR CAC.

SO MAKE SURE YOU'RE CHECKING THOSE FACILITIES OUT.

LOOK FOR OUR VENTURES GUIDE THREE TIMES A YEAR.

IT'LL HAVE EVERYTHING IN THERE THAT WE'RE DOING.

THEN I'D BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T PERSONALLY INVITE EVERYBODY HERE COMING UP ON JULY 4TH, WE'VE GOT A BIG PARTY WERE THROWING, IT'S A 2023 INDEPENDENCE FEST.

WE'RE GOING TO START IN THE MORNING AT 10:00 O'CLOCK OVER AT THE LEONARD AND HELEN JOHNS COMMUNITY PARK.

WE DO A BIG CHILDREN'S PARADE.

SO IF YOU'VE GOT LITTLE ONES I SEE, LOTS OF LITTLE ONES IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU GET ALL YOUR RED, WHITE, AND BLUE, DECORATE THE STRIKES, THE BIKES, THE WAGONS, COME ON OUT AND HAVE A PARADE WITH US.

AFTER THE PARADE, SUMMIT CLUBS IS GOING TO BE THERE COOKING HOTDOGS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE LEMONADE, FUN, ENTERTAINMENT, KIDS ZONE.

THERE'LL BE LOTS OF COOL STUFF GOING ON, THAT'S THE MORNING.

THEN YOU MIGHT WANT TO STOP BY THE CAC, THERE STARS AND STRIPES SPLASH TACKLED BETWEEN ONE AND FIVE.

AND THEN TO 5:00PM, A COURSE IS OUR EVENING PROGRAM STARTS AT BAKERSFIELD PARK.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COOL LINEUP WITH ENTERTAINMENT.

WE HAVE A JOURNEY TRIBUTE BAND AND THEIR NAME IS GIRL CAN'T HELP IT, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE LE FREAK FOR ALL YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE.

THE DISCO STUFF, THE LE FREAK WILL BE BACK THIS YEAR AND OUR HEADLINERS, THE ELI YOUNG BAND, THERE'LL BE KICKING OFF AROUND 8:15 AND WE'LL CLOSE OUT THE NIGHT WITH THE AWESOME FIREWORKS SHOW.

OF COURSE, THERE'LL BE LOTS OF FOOD VENDORS, A CAR SHOW, AWESOME KIDS ZONE.

SO YOU LITTLE GUYS WANT TO CHECK THAT OUT.

AND I ENCOURAGE EVERYONE TO GO TO THE TOWNS WEBSITE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THOSE EVENTS BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO CHECK ON WHERE YOU CAN PARK AND WALK, OR WE HAVE SHUTTLES THAT RUN.

SO YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO SEE WHERE THOSE DIFFERENT SHUTTLE LOCATIONS ARE.

IT'S A BIG CROWD AND WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AMAZING, THIS HEAT IS GOING TO GO AWAY.

IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE IT WAS A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO.

IT'LL BE REALLY NICE, BUT WE COULDN'T DO THESE THINGS WITHOUT THE AWESOME, WONDERFUL SUPPORT, VISION OF OUR MAYOR, OUR COUNCIL, OUR TOWN MANAGEMENT UP THERE.

I WANT TO THANK THEM.

AS A WAY TO THANK THEM, WE HAVE A COUPLE OF GIFTS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE THEM.

WE HAVE SOME COOL PARKS AND REC MONTH T-SHIRTS THAT WE WANT TO GIVE YOU GUYS AND WE HOPE TO SEE YOU WEARING THEM THROUGHOUT THE MONTH OF JULY.

WE'RE ALL GOING TO BE WEARING OURS ON FRIDAYS.

AND THEN WE HAVE A PRETTY COOL LITTLE CLAY PLANNER THAT'S GOT THE THEME ON IT THIS YEAR AND WE HOPE THAT'LL HELP COMMEMORATE AND CELEBRATE THE MONTH THOUGH.

ENJOY THOSE GIFTS AND SEE EVERYBODY OUT ON 4TH OF JULY.

THANK YOU GUYS, WE APPRECIATE.

YOU GUYS KEEPING THAT BAR HIGH FOR US.

>> IF WE COULD SQUEEZE JUST A LITTLE BIT THAT WAY.

[BACKGROUND] AMAZING.

I'M SURE ONE OF THOSE, EVERYONE'S EYES [LAUGHTER].

>> [BACKGROUND]

>> THANK YOU. [NOISE]

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>> ARE WE PLAYING THEM ON TOP? [NOISE]

>> SO WE'RE GOING BE MOVING ON TO PART 2 OF OUR COMMUNITY SUPPORT ORGANIZATION PRESENTATIONS.

SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW MY WIFE AND I OWN A LOCAL BUSINESS AND WE SPECIALIZE IN GRANT WRITING.

IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT A COUPLE OF THOSE NON-PROFITS ARE ON THIS LIST.

SO I'LL BE EXCUSING MYSELF AND TURNING IT OVER TO MY MAYOR PROTEM, MR. ENGEL. SIR?

>> DO YOU WANT TO [INAUDIBLE]

>> SO AT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING, YOU HEARD FROM 10 ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE SUPPORT THROUGH OUR [INAUDIBLE] SUPPORT PROGRAM.

WE HAVE THE EIGHT ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATIONS HERE TONIGHT.

WE WILL START WITH JOURNEY TO DREAM.

AND JUST AS A REMINDER, I'VE ASKED THEM TO KEEP IT TO 3-5 MINUTES SO THAT WE CAN BE RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY'S TIME. THANK YOU.

>> GOOD EVENING, COUNCIL. MY NAME IS ALDA GARRETT AND I AM THE DIRECTOR OF DREAM INITIATIVE FOR JOURNEY TO DREAM.

WE WANTED TO TALK TO YOU GUYS TODAY ABOUT THE DREAM INITIATIVE.

RIGHT NOW, WE DO PARTNER WITH THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT WE WANT TO GROW THAT PARTNERSHIP WHERE WE CAN BE SURE TO REACH OUT TO AS MANY STUDENTS AS POSSIBLE THROUGH THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS. SO THE DREAM INITIATIVE IS THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS PART OF JOURNEY TO DREAM.

RIGHT NOW, WE PARTNER WITH THE YMCA, DIFFERENT SCHOOLS ALREADY, BUT WE WANT TO GROW THAT OUT SO THAT WE CAN TOUCH THE STUDENTS.

AND WE KNOW THAT MENTORING STUDENTS ONE ON ONE IN SMALL GROUPS ARE WHAT'S GOING TO HELP.

WHAT WE'VE GOT GOING ON WITH THE HOPELESSNESS AND THE BEHAVIORAL ISSUES AS RELATES TO THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE ME TO TOUCH BASE ON ABOUT THE SCHOOL PROGRAMS FOR THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND?

>> NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD.

>> OKAY. [LAUGHTER] ALRIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT WE'LL HAVE RANCH HANDS RESCUE WITH MONIQUE.

>> HI THERE, HOW'S IT GOING? MY NAME IS MONIQUE.

I'M A COUNSELOR AND INTERIM CLINICAL DIRECTOR WITH RANCH HANDS RESCUE.

I JUST WANTED TO TELL YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR PROGRAM.

SO RANCH HANDS RESCUE IS A HUMAN AND ANIMAL SANCTUARY, THAT WAS FOUNDED ON THE HOPE OF BRINGING IN SOME LONG-TERM RECOVERY FOR THOSE WHO'VE EXPERIENCED PRETTY INTENSE TRAUMA, AS WELL AS SPECIAL NEEDS ANIMALS AND MALE SURVIVORS OF SEX TRAFFICKING.

THERAPY AT RANCH HANDS RESCUE IS IN MY VERY BIASED OPINION, A VERY UNIQUE EXPERIENCE AND SOMETHING THAT IS UNLIKE ANY OTHER.

WE RESCUE SPECIAL NEEDS ANIMALS WHO HAVE BEEN THROUGH A TRAUMA AND WE PARTNER THEM WITH VERY HIGHLY QUALIFIED MENTAL HEALTH THERAPISTS LIKE MYSELF.

AND WE DO ANIMAL ASSISTED IN EQUINE-ASSISTED THERAPY.

WE SEE CLIENTS OF ALL AGES AND WE HELP THEM WORK THROUGH THEIR TRAUMA, THROUGH THIS PAIRING WITH OUR ANIMALS.

WE FOCUS ON YOUTH WITH COMPLEX TRAUMA BECAUSE THE BONDS THEY FORM WITH THE ANIMALS IS DEEPENED BY THE MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO HAVE VERY SIMILAR PAINFUL EXPERIENCES.

INDIVIDUALS WHO'VE EXPERIENCED TRAUMA TEND TO RESPOND TO THE ENVIRONMENT VERY SIMILARLY TO HOW OUR ANIMALS RESPOND TO THEIR ENVIRONMENT.

WE HAVE HORSES, DONKEYS, SHEEP, GOATS, AND OTHER PREY ANIMALS.

IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE THROUGH THIS PARTNERSHIP, WE ARE ABLE TO HELP CLIENTS UNDERSTAND SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENING INTERNALLY FOR THEM, THAT THEY MAY NOT QUITE HAVE THE LANGUAGE TO EXPLAIN THEMSELVES THROUGH WATCHING HOW THE ANIMALS RESPOND TO THE ENVIRONMENT AROUND THEM.

PREY ANIMALS AND PEOPLE WITH TRAUMA DO RESPOND VERY SIMILARLY.

THE OTHER REALLY COOL THING ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE DO IS WHEN YOU BOND WITH AN ANIMAL, ANIMALS WILL ACTUALLY START PRODUCING WHAT I LIKE TO CALL HAPPY HORMONES IN THEIR BRAINS AS WELL AS THE HUMANS.

THE HUMANS ALSO PRODUCE THOSE HAPPY HORMONES.

WORKING WITH ANIMALS LITERALLY WILL MAKE YOU HAPPY.

THIS ALLOWS US TO HELP CLIENTS PROCESS SOME VERY DIFFICULT TOPICS WHILE GETTING A HEALTHY INFLUX OF NEUROTRANSMITTERS SUCH AS SEROTONIN, DOPAMINE, NOREPINEPHRINE, ETC.

FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS, ON AVERAGE,

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ABOUT 89% OF OUR CLIENTS HAVE REPORTED THAT THEY HAVE SEEN A SIGNIFICANTLY REDUCED SYMPTOM OF TRAUMA.

SO THEY'RE NOT HAVING AS MANY SYMPTOMS. WITH THAT BEING SAID, 100% HAVE REPORTED A MINIMUM OF 75% INCREASE IN DAILY FUNCTIONING.

DAILY FUNCTIONING INCLUDES THINGS LIKE GETTING UP AND DOING YOUR DAILY HYGIENE, ATTENDING SCHOOL, ATTENDING WORK, EATING, THINGS THAT I THINK A LOT OF US OFTEN TAKE FOR GRANTED.

WE LOVE WHAT WE DO AT RANCH HANDS RESCUE AND WHAT MORE CAN YOU ASK FOR ANIMALS HELPING PEOPLE, AND PEOPLE HELPING ANIMALS.

WE WOULD LOVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HELP OUR NEIGHBORS IN FLOWER MOUND COMMUNITY WORK THROUGH THEIR TRAUMA.

AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION.

AND IF YOU GUYS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'D LOVE TO ANSWER THEM.

>> I'M JUST TRYING TO RECALL, SO LAST YEAR, WAS THAT THE FIRST YEAR THAT WE INCLUDED YOU IN OUR BUDGET?

>> I BELIEVE SO.

>> DID YOU NOT CONSUME THE ALLOCATION, I'M TRYING TO RECALL, CHIEF, DID YOU NOT CONSUME THE AMOUNT LAST YEAR THAT WAS GRANTED AND THEN WE ENDED UP SHIFTING IT TO ANOTHER SOURCE.

WAS THAT A DIFFERENT ONE?

>> SO THAT'S A SEPARATE GRANT.

>> YEAH.

>> THE COMMUNITY SUPPORT GRANT.

THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THEY ARE STILL. [OVERLAPPING]

>> OKAY, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ONE.

>> THE OTHER ONE IS THE COVID MONEY THAT WE RECEIVED.

>> OKAY GOT YOU. OKAY. SO LAST YEAR YOU WERE ALSO A RECIPIENT?

>> YES.

>> AND CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A SENSE OF HOW MANY LOCAL RESIDENTS YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP.

>> YEAH, SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A NOTE OF THAT.

SORRY, I SHOULD HAVE HAD THAT OUT ALREADY.

ON AVERAGE, WE SAW A TOTAL OF ABOUT 313 PEOPLE, SO JUST OVER 3,000 SESSIONS, AND WE HAD 80% OF THOSE SESSIONS WERE SUBSIDIZED.

>> I THINK WE'RE GOOD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH.

IF ANYONE WANTS ANY INFORMATION, I DID LEAVE SOME FLYERS AT THE TABLE.

>> THANK YOU. NEXT, WE'LL HAVE THE LEWISVILLE LAKE SYMPHONY, NANCY.

>> PRESENTATION, BUT HOW DO I GET IT BACK?

>> WHO IS GOING TO HELP?

>> MY BEST FRIEND HERE.

[LAUGHTER] I PROBABLY COULD DO IT FROM MEMORY, BUT IT'LL MAKE MORE SENSE THIS WAY.

[BACKGROUND] ALL RIGHT, I AM NANCY WRIGHT.

I'M A LONG-TERM FLOWER MEMBER RESIDENT AND ALSO A LONG-TIME SUPPORTER, VOLUNTEER, AND BOARD MEMBER WITH THE LEWISVILLE LAKE SYMPHONY.

I'M GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH A SILLY LITTLE QUIZ, ABOUT WHY DOES THE SYMPHONY'S NAME HAD THE WORD LAKE IN IT.

IS IT BECAUSE THE ORCHESTRA PLAYS WHILE FLOATING ON LAKE LEWISVILLE? OR BECAUSE MUSIC IS SOOTHING LIKE GENTLE WATER? OR BECAUSE THEY'RE MUSICIANS LIKE TO SWIM? OR IS IT BECAUSE WE SERVE THE CITIZENS OF ALL COMMUNITIES IN THE GREATER LEWISVILLE LIKE GARY? I HOPE YOU SAID D BECAUSE THAT IS IMPACT OUR GOAL.

AND WE WANT TO DO, AND IT'S ALWAYS WANTED TO DO IN OUR 39-YEAR HISTORY SPRING CULTURAL EXCELLENCE TO ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES, ALL THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITIES IN THIS AREA AROUND THE LAKE, OF WHICH COURSE FLOWER MOUND IS VERY IMPORTANT PART.

I DID SOME WORK ON POPULATION.

IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE FLOWER MOUND REPRESENTS ONLY ABOUT 15% OF THIS GREATER LEWISVILLE AREA.

HOWEVER, FROM THE SYMPHONY'S POINT OF VIEW, FLOWER MOUND LEADS THE PACK IN TERMS OF INVOLVEMENT.

ANYWHERE 25-37% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ATTENDING CONCERTS AND BEING INVOLVED IN VOLUNTEER WORK, AND DONATING MONEY TO OUR CAUSE COME FROM FLOWER MOUND.

OUR GRANT REQUEST OF $3,000 REPRESENTS 2.3% OF OUR TOTAL BUDGET.

SO I THINK YOU'RE GETTING A PRETTY GOOD BANG FOR THE BUCK THERE.

IT'S REALLY AS A FLOWER MOUND SERVICE, AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO SEE THAT MANY PEOPLE COMING FROM FLORIDA.

LET ME GIVE YOU A FEW QUICK STATS ABOUT THIS PAST SEASON.

WE SERVED OVER 7,000 PEOPLE AT 25 UNIQUE ADVANCE, 35% OF OUR CONCERT ATTENDEES WERE FROM FLOWER MOUND.

WE COLLABORATED WITH LISD TO ENCOURAGE OVER 3,700+3RD GRADERS TO BECOME INVOLVED IN THE ARTS.

AND ALTHOUGH 20% OF OUR INCOME IS FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANTS LIKE FLOWER MOUND, LEWISVILLE IN HARLEM VILLAGE 80% WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THROUGH DONATIONS, CORPORATE GRANTS, AND FUNDRAISING.

OUR ORCHESTRA AND OUR CONDUCTOR ARE PROFESSIONALS.

THEY'RE PAID AT UNION RATES, AND THEY ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO ARE PAID.

ALL THE OTHER WORK THAT IS DONE IS DONE BY VOLUNTEERS,

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WHO ARE VERY MUCH UNPAID.

WE HAD THIS YEAR FOUR CONCERTS WITH FULL HOUSES, TWO OF WHICH WERE SOLD OUT, AND ONE OF WHICH WAS STANDING ROOM ONLY.

JUST A NOTE ABOUT OUR NOVEMBER CONCERT WE WERE HAPPY TO INCLUDE A LOBBY ART EXHIBIT, FROM THE VERY TALENTED STUDENTS OF THE FLOWER MOUND HIGH SCHOOL VISUAL ARTS DEPARTMENT.

FANTASTIC SHOW.

AS WE HAVE FOR THE LAST 19 YEARS WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE OUR INTERNATIONAL CHAMBER SERIES, RIGHT HERE IN FLOWER MOUND DOWN THE ROAD AT TRINITY PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH.

FLOWER MOUND IS ALWAYS LISTED AS THE SEASON CO-SPONSOR FOR THIS SERIES.

THESE CONCERTS ARE ALWAYS OFFERED AT NO CHARGE BECAUSE WE WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING IN OUR COMMUNITY DID THAT, ANYONE AND EVERYONE CAN ATTEND.

OUR PETER AND THE WOLF EDUCATIONAL CHILDREN'S CONCERT WITH THE LAKE CITIES BALLET WAS OFFERED FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME THIS YEAR, LAST MARCH IN FLOWER MOUND.

WE HAVE THE LARGEST EVER CROWD OF SELLOUT CROWD OF STANDING ROOM ONLY OF OVER 525.

PLUS AFTER THE CONCERT, WE HAD A CRAZY WALL-TO-WALL WITH KIDS, "MAKE YOUR OWN INSTRUMENT WORKSHOP AND INSTRUMENT PETTING ZOO." THIS WAS OUR 13TH YEAR TO PARTNER WITH LISD TO OFFER OUR DISTRICT 3RD GRADER OF CONCERT, AND MORE THAN 1,000 OF THOSE STUDENTS ATTENDING MORE FROM FLOWER MOUND.

WE INTRODUCE TWO NEW INITIATIVES THIS YEAR.

ONE IS WE'RE CALLING THE OPPORTUNITY AND DIVERSITY INITIATIVE, WHERE WE ARE FOCUSING ON OUR DIVERSE COMMUNITY.

OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO PROVIDE FREE TICKETS TO ECONOMICALLY DISADVANTAGED STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES, SO THEY CAN ATTEND OUR SYMPHONY CONCERTS.

WE PARTNERED WITH COMMUNITY AND SCHOOLS, AND LISD.

AND IDENTIFIED MORE THAN 100 STUDENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES WHO CAME TO OUR CONCERTS.

WE FELT THAT WAS A BIG PLUS FOR US TO DIVERSIFY OUR AUDIENCE, AND WE GOT GREAT FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHO CAME.

THIS IS A PROGRAM WE WILL CONTINUE IN THIS COMING YEAR.

OUR OTHER NEW PROGRAM IS FOR SCOUTS, WHO ARE LOOKING TO EARN THEIR MUSIC APPRECIATION MERIT BADGE.

WE'RE NOW OFFERING AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME ACTIVITIES, WHERE THEY CAN COME TO ONE OF OUR CONCERT REHEARSALS AND INTERACT WITH THE MUSICIANS THE CONDUCTOR AND WATCH A LIVE REHEARSAL.

LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR WE DID IT.

WE HAD GREAT RESPONSE, SO WE'RE GOING TO CHARGE RIGHT INTO THAT AGAIN THIS YEAR.

WITH YOUR HEALTH, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO ANOTHER EXCITING SEASON WITH LOTS OF MANY ACTIVITIES THAT I'VE ALREADY MENTIONED.

IT'LL BE OUR 40TH SEASON, SO WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.

WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WELCOMING YOU, YOUR FAMILIES.

THERE ARE COMMUNITY AT THESE ACTIVITIES, AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE SUPPORT OF CULTURAL ENRICHMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. ANY QUESTIONS?

>> ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> DOES COUNCIL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> THANK YOU.

>> ALL RIGHT. NEXT, WE'LL HEAR FROM CASA OF DENTON COUNTY PRESENTING IS SHERRY FRY. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM.

>> GOOD EVENING. I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THIS MOVE FOR.

>> SKIP.

>> GOOD EVENING. I AM SHERRY FRY, THE PROGRAM DIRECTOR FOR CASA OF DENTON COUNTY.

I HAVE BEEN WORKING THERE, I'VE BEEN SERVING CHILDREN FOR OVER 18 YEARS.

I CAN TELL YOU ONE THING I'VE LEARNED IN THOSE 18 YEARS, IS THAT HURT PEOPLE.

I'VE BEEN THERE LONG ENOUGH TO SEE THAT HAPPEN IN FRONT OF MY EYES.

WHAT CASA DOES IS WE TRAIN AND WE PROVIDE COMMUNITY VOLUNTEERS TO WORK WITH THE CHILDREN, OUR MOST VULNERABLE POPULATION.

THE CHILDREN THAT FIND THEMSELVES IN FOSTER CARE THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE, DUE TO ABUSE AND NEGLECT.

AND I WAS TOLD TO KEEP IT UNDER THREE MINUTES, I'M GOING TO DO SOMETHING REALLY STRANGE, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL EACH OF YOU.

IF I WERE TO WALK UP TO YOU RIGHT NOW AND SAY, HAND ME YOUR CELL PHONE, YOUR PURSE, YOUR CAR KEYS.

I'M GOING TO PUT THEM SOMEWHERE AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET THEM BACK.

TONIGHT YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND THE NIGHT SOMEWHERE, YOU'VE NEVER BEEN BEFORE WITH PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER MET BEFORE.

TOMORROW WHEN YOU WAKE UP, YOU'RE GOING TO BE WORKING IN A NEW PLACE WITH PEOPLE YOU'VE NEVER MET BEFORE AS WELL.

AND YOU HAVE NOBODY THERE TO HELP YOU NAVIGATE THAT SYSTEM.

WHAT CASA DOES IS WE PROVIDE SOMEBODY THAT AS SOON AS THAT CHILD IS PLACED IN THAT HOME, WE GET NOTICED FROM THE JUDGES OR JUDGES IN DISTRICT.

DENTON COUNTY THE DISTRICT JUDGES APPOINTED US IMMEDIATELY WHEN A CHILD IS REMOVED.

WE IMMEDIATELY LIKE TO APPOINT A VOLUNTEER ADVOCATE,

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AT THAT MOMENT THEY GET TO THAT HOME AND THAT CHILD IS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE TO REASSURE THEM, TO TELL THEM I'M HERE FOR YOU.

THE MAIN THINGS THAT THEY'RE TO DO OR TO INVESTIGATE, MONITOR, AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COURT.

OUR VOLUNTEERS ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO TO COURT EVERY TIME THAT CHILD HAS A HEARING.

THE JUDGES ASK THEM QUESTIONS AND THEY RELY ON THEM.

RIGHT NOW, WE'RE IN A HUGE CRISIS.

IT'S REALLY STRANGE BECAUSE FOR YEARS WE'VE BEEN IN A BUDGET CRISIS.

NOW WE'RE IN A CRISIS OF NEEDING MORE VOLUNTEERS.

LAST WEEK WHEN I RAN THE NUMBERS, WE HAVE 65 CHILDREN IN DENTON COUNTY RIGHT NOW WHO DON'T HAVE SOMEONE, LIKE WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED TO YOU.

UP UNTIL COVID, WE HAD ALL THOSE CHILDREN COVERED.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON AND READ A LOT OF ARTICLES ABOUT HOW VOLUNTEERISM IS DOWN, SINCE COVID PEOPLE ARE STILL LIVING WITH THE FEAR THAT SOMETHING THAT COULD HAPPEN.

SO THEY'RE NOT MAKING LONG-TERM COMMITMENTS TO VOLUNTEER, AND WE DO ASK FOR A VERY LONG-TERM COMMITMENT, 12-18 MONTHS BECAUSE THAT'S USUALLY THE LENGTH OF A CHILD'S CASE WHEN THEY COME INTO FOSTER CARE.

SO WE REALIZE IT'S A BIG ASK, BUT IT'S A NECESSARY ASK BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT IF YOU DON'T TAKE CARE OF THIS UPFRONT, THE RESULTS ARE TERRIBLE.

WE NEED YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT AND SORRY FOR THE THEATRICS, BUT THAT IS WHAT OUR CHILDREN FACE.

THEY LITERALLY SOMEONE WALKS INTO THEIR HOUSE WITH A GARBAGE BAG, WHICH REALLY GETS ME UPSET.

HANDS IT TO HIM AND SAYS YOU'VE GOT 10 MINUTES TO GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT.

THAT MOMENT THEIR LIVES ARE TURNED UPSIDE DOWN, BUT THAT'S WHERE CAUSES STEPS IN AND STAYS WITH THEM.

LIKE I SAID, FOR THE ENDURANCE OF THE CASE THEY MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO BE THERE FOR THOSE CHILDREN.

THE JUDGES DO RELY ON THEM EVERY TIME THEY GO TO COURT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

>> THANK YOU, MS. FRY. COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS.

>> JUST A QUESTION. YOU SAID THERE ARE 65 CHILDREN THAT DON'T HAVE A SPONSOR, OR A MENTOR, OR A GUIDE THROUGH THIS PROCESS.

>> YES, SIR.

>> THAT MEAN YOU NEED 65 ADDITIONAL VOLUNTEERS, OR A SMALLER NUMBER OF VOLUNTEERS?

>> I NEED 65 [LAUGHTER].

>> WHAT TRAINING DO YOU PROVIDE BEFORE SOMEONE CAN VOLUNTEER?

>> IT'S EXTENSIVE, BUT I WILL TELL YOU IT'S 30 HOURS UPFRONT.

BUT IT HAS TO BE BECAUSE YOU'RE DEALING WITH CHILDREN WHO HAVE SUFFERED TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES.

WE WANT THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN THERE WORKING WITH THEM.

AND SO IT IS, IT'S 30 HOURS OF TRAINING, AND EACH YEAR IT'S 12 HOURS OF THE CONTINUING EDUCATION.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> SURE.

>> MS. FRY, IF YOU CAN SHOOT ME AN EMAIL WITH THAT NOTE ASKING FOR VOLUNTEERS, I'LL PUT IT OUT IN MIND.

>> I WOULD ABSOLUTELY DO THAT, YEAH.

>> APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> NEXT UP, WE HAVE CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY ACTION.

IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE MS. DAPHNE HOUSTON, AND I SEE MR. MONTEZ. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

>> ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING.

SAME THING, I'M GOING TO TRY TO DO THIS IN 3-5 MINUTES.

I HAVE A TENDENCY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT, SO I'LL TRY TO GO AS FAST AS I CAN.

MY NAME IS DAPHNE HOUSTON.

I AM THE DIRECTOR OF PROGRAMS AT CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY ACTION CCA.

CCA HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 50 YEARS, CHANGING PEOPLE'S LIVES, ALLEVIATING SUFFERING, AND BRINGING HOPE. LETS SKIP OVER THAT ONE.

I JUST WANT TO JUST TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROGRAMS THAT WE OFFER.

CCA HAS A COMPREHENSIVE APPROACH TO HOW WE SERVE PEOPLE.

SO WE HAVE OUR RESCUE SERVICES, THAT'S OUR CRISIS MANAGEMENT, THAT IS WEEKLY ACCESS TO OUR SELF-SELECTION CLIENT-CHOICE FOOD PANTRY.

WE HAVE HOMELESS PREVENTION AND RAPIDLY REHOUSING PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE HELPING TO PAY RENT, UTILITIES AND GETTING PEOPLE WHO ARE LITERALLY HOMELESS INTO HOUSING.

AND WE ALSO HAVE EMERGENCY ASSISTANCE DEPENDING ON THE NEED WHERE WE MAY HELP SOMEONE WITH CHILDCARE, TRANSPORTATION, ETC.

WE HAVE OUR RELIEF SERVICES AND OUR RELIEF SERVICES ARE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE THAT TEMPORARY RELIEF DURING THE TIME WHEN FAMILIES TEND TO SPEND THEIR MONEY ELSEWHERE.

SO BACK TO SCHOOL, IF YOU HAVE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW IT COSTS A LOT TO GET THEM READY TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL.

SO YOU WANT TO HELP THEM PREPARE BY PROVIDING CLOTHES, BACKPACK, SCHOOL SUPPLIES TO GET THEM READY TO GO.

CHRISTMAS CHEER, WE GIVE GIFTS TO CHILDREN BECAUSE WE KNOW PARENTS SPEND MONEY ON GIFTS.

AND THE SAME WITH OUR KIDS EAT FREE PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SUMMER PROGRAM WHERE WE'RE ACROSS ABOUT 15 SITES EVERY SUMMER PROVIDING LUNCH MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY AND WEEKEND MEALS ON THE WEEKEND.

IF YOU DO HAVE CHILDREN, YOU KNOW, YOUR FOOD BILL GOES UP DURING THE SUMMER.

AND SO WE WANT TO BE THERE TO PROVIDE THAT TEMPORARY RELIEF AND SUPPORT.

AND THEN WE HAVE OUR GOLDEN ANGELS, WHICH ARE SENIOR CITIZENS WHO COME IN EVERY MONDAY.

THEY'RE ABLE TO BE WITH FRIENDS, FELLOWSHIP, FOOD, ALL THE GOOD THINGS JUST HAVE THAT TIME AND MOMENT TO BE TOGETHER.

THEN WE HAVE OUR RESTORATIVE SERVICES.

I LIKE TO SAY THAT'S WHERE THE TRANSFORMATION HAPPENS.

WE HAVE DIFFERENT CLASSES RANGING FROM ESL, GED, WE DO WORKSHOPS FOR ENTREPRENEURSHIP, CIVICS,

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HELPING PEOPLE GET THERE, ANYTHING, WHATEVER THEY NEED.

ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT CCA THAT I LOVE IS WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE TO HELP THEM MOVE TOWARDS SELF SUFFICIENCY.

WE ALSO HAVE OUR PASTORAL CARE OR SPIRITUAL CARE PROGRAM.

WE HAVE A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL COUNSELOR ONSITE, AND WE HAVE JOB READINESS PROGRAM.

SO OUR GOAL IS TO GET PEOPLE BACK ON THEIR FEET AND WE KNOW AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC, A LOT OF OUR FAMILIES STRUGGLE TO MAKE IT THROUGH DIFFERENT THINGS.

JUST SOME OF OUR MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.

WE WORK WITH TONS OF OTHER FOOD PANTRIES.

WE ACTUALLY HAVE A SHARE OF SURPLUS PROGRAM, SO WE DON'T WASTE ANYTHING WE GIVE TO OTHER SMALLER FOOD PANTRIES SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO SERVE THEIR COMMUNITY.

WE'VE SERVED FOR AROUND 44 HOUSEHOLDS CONSISTING OF 137 INDIVIDUALS TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR FOOD PANTRY.

WE PROVIDED OVER $35,000 WHERE IT'S A FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO 33 HOUSEHOLDS.

AND WE SERVE 13 HOUSEHOLDS, CONSISTING OF 36 CHILDREN WITH THOSE SEASONAL RELIEF SERVICES.

AND THOSE NUMBERS ARE JUST FOR TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

THE OTHER THING IS OUR CLASSES ARE BACKUP AND RUNNING AND OF COURSE WE HAD TO STOP DURING THE PANDEMIC, BUT WE'RE GETTING THEM BACK UP AND RUNNING AND WHERE THEY'RE AT CAPACITY.

WE JUST HAD A REALLY COOL CELEBRATION WHERE WE HAD THE BIGGEST TURNOUT EVER IN TWO EVENTS.

JUST COMING TO SHOW THAT THEY HAD EITHER LEVELED UP IN A CLASS OR THAT THEY WERE WORKING TOWARDS COMPLETING ONE OF OUR WORKSHOPS.

SO WE JUST CELEBRATED THEM AND IT WAS SO EXCITING BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM HAD NEVER EVEN BEEN CELEBRATED BEFORE.

THROUGH OUR RAPID REHOUSING PROGRAM, WE HAVE HOUSED A TOTAL OF 55 INDIVIDUALS SINCE WE STARTED THE PROGRAM IN 2021.

WE'RE WORKING WITH TRUIST BANK TO DO BUDGETING AND CRISIS AND FIRST-TIME HOMEBUYERS COURSES.

WE'VE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT IMMIGRATION AND CIVICS, AND WE'RE WORKING WITH THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION.

WE LOVE COLLABORATING AND FIGURING OUT WAYS TO GET PEOPLE BACK TO WORK AND BACK ON THE RIGHT PATH.

OUR REQUEST IS $30,000 THIS YEAR.

LAST YEAR WE SERVED OVER 200 INDIVIDUALS, BUT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FOCUS ON GOING DEEPER WITH THE FAMILIES AND REALLY WORKING WITH THEM.

THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE THAT NUMBER IS 179 FOR THE HOUSEHOLDS, EVEN THOUGH IF YOU LOOK AT THE APPLICATION, IT WAS OVER 200 HOUSEHOLDS LAST YEAR.

SO I LOVE THIS.

I USE IT IN ALL MY SLIDES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT CCA IS.

TAKE WHAT YOU NEED SOMETIMES IT'S JUST A LITTLE LOVE, A LITTLE HOPE, CONFIDENCE, INSPIRATION, MOTIVATION, WHATEVER IT IS, WE'RE THERE TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE.

THESE ARE OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME?

>> COUNCIL? THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> THANK YOU. HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

>> NEXT, WE'LL HAVE COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS OF NORTH TEXAS PRESENTING MS. TASHA MOORE. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM.

>> GOOD EVENING. I'M TASHA MOORE.

I'M THE NEW CEO FOR COMMUNITIES IN SCHOOLS OF NORTH TEXAS, WHERE OUR MISSION IS TO SURROUND STUDENTS WITH A COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT, EMPOWERING THEM TO STAY IN SCHOOL AND ACHIEVE IN LIFE.

WE PARTNER WITH SIX SCHOOL DISTRICTS IN THE NORTH TEXAS AREA, LEWISVILLE ISD BEING ONE OF OUR LARGEST, WHERE YOU HAVE 23 PROGRAMS. SO WE OPERATE ON CAMPUSES BOTH DURING THE DAY AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMMING.

OUR MAIN GOAL AND PURPOSES THAT EVERY STUDENT CAN REACH THEIR FULL POTENTIAL BOTH ACADEMICALLY IN THE CLASSROOM BUT ALSO OUTSIDE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

SOME CORE BASICS THAT WE TRY TO IMPLEMENT THROUGH OUR TIME WITH KIDS.

WE DO THAT THOUGH THERE ARE EVIDENCE-BASED MODEL OF WRAPAROUND SUPPORTS.

WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT FROM START TO FINISH WORKING WITH THE TEACHERS, THE SCHOOL ADMIN, AND THEIR PARENTS, THAT EVERY STUDENTS NEEDS ARE MET IF THERE'S BARRIERS THAT ARE PREVENTING THEM FROM BEING SUCCESSFUL ACADEMICALLY, CAUSING BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS IN THE CLASSROOM, MAKING THEM NOT WANT TO COME TO SCHOOL OR TO NOT BE FULLY ENGAGED.

OUR STAFF ARE WORKING WITH THEM DAY IN AND DAY OUT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES THEY NEED, THE TIME TO BUILD UP THEIR SKILLS, BUT ALSO TIME WITH CARING ADULTS.

SO OUR ASK IS FOR OUR PROGRAMS HERE IN LEWISVILLE ISD.

ALSO FOR OUR VOLUNTEER PROGRAMS. WE UTILIZE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS.

LAST YEAR WE HAD OVER 800 VOLUNTEERS, A GOOD PORTION OF THEM FROM FLOWER MOUND AREA PROVIDING HOURS OF SERVICE WHERE THEY'RE COMING IN AND MENTORING, TUTORING, ASSISTING WITH HOMEWORK HELP.

ALSO JUST SHARING THEIR TALENTS AND SKILLS WITH STUDENTS SO THAT THEY CAN LEARN NEW THINGS HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLORE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT ACTIVITIES THAT LIFE HAS TO OFFER.

OUR BELIEF IS THAT WHEN OUR STUDENTS ARE SUCCESSFUL IN SCHOOL, NOT ONLY WILL THEY GROW, BUT THEY WILL ALSO GROW TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND GIVING MEMBERS OF SOCIETY, WHEN THEY BECOME STRONGER, THEIR FAMILIES BECOMES STRONGER ALSO THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY'RE IN. WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. COUNSEL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

THANKS AGAIN. NEXT, WE'LL HAVE HUMANE TOMORROW AND PRESENTING MS. STACY SMITH.

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>> HI. I'M TOO SHORT FOR THAT.

[LAUGHTER] HI, MY NAME IS STACY SMITH AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH HUMANE TOMORROW.

IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE DID ONE OF THESE.

SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU GUYS A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND WHAT WE DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

HUMANE TOMORROW WAS FOUNDED AS THE HUMANE SOCIETY OF FLOWER MOUND IN 1997.

SO WE'VE BEEN SERVING THE TOWN FOR 26 YEARS NOW.

BACK BEFORE WE EVEN HAD AN ANIMAL SHELTER IN THE TOWN.

WE CREATED A FOSTER CARE PROGRAM AT THAT TIME.

ALL OF OUR ANIMALS ARE HOUSED IN FOSTER HOMES.

MANY OF THEM IN FLOWER MOUND BUT ALSO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES AND WE'VE FOUND HOMES FOR OVER 12,000 ANIMALS IN THOSE YEARS.

THANKS TO STRONG SUPPORT AND ACTIVE PARTICIPATION FROM VOLUNTEERS AND SUPPORTERS IN OUR COMMUNITY, FLOWER MOUND HAS NEVER FACED THE EXTREME OVERCROWDING CONDITIONS THAT A LOT OF FACT, I WOULD SAY NEARLY ALL SHELTERS IN TEXAS FACE.

THAT'S DUE IN PART TO REALLY STRONG PROGRAMS THAT OUR ORGANIZATION AND OTHERS CREATED YEARS AGO, WHICH IS SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAMS AND HEALTHY ADOPTION PROGRAMS. WHEN THE FLOWER MOUND ANIMAL SHELTER WAS BUILT, WE KEPT OUR FOSTER PROGRAM BUT THEY WERE ABLE TO PLACE MOST OF THE ANIMALS AND POUNDED IN FLOWER MOUND.

SO IT ALLOWED US TO BROADEN OUR SCOPE AND CREATE MORE PROGRAMS THAT FOCUSED ON PREVENTION AND KEEPING ANIMALS OUT OF THE SHELTERS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

WE DO A LOT OF WORK WITH LOCAL ORGANIZATIONS AND ALSO WE HAVE A PROGRAM CALLED FLOWER'S FUND THAT AIMS TO KEEP ANIMALS IN HOMES THAT THEY HAVE.

WHEN PEOPLE FACE UNEXPECTED VETERINARY EXPENSES WHEN THEY CAN'T PAY FOR PET DEPOSITS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

AS FAR AS THE ANIMAL SHELTER IS CONCERNED, WE PRIMARILY THESE DAYS ACT AS A RESOURCE FOR THEM WHEN THEY HAVE ANIMALS THAT ARE NOT VERY WELL IN THE SHELTER, THOSE THAT ARE SENIOR, THAT HAVE INJURIES, REQUIRING SOMETIMES THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF MEDICAL EXPENSES THAT THE SHELTER SIMPLY CAN'T DO.

THEY KNOW THEY CAN CALL US AND WE'LL GET THOSE INTO OUR PROGRAM.

FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAD HANS WAS A DOG THAT CAME IN A WHILE BACK.

IT'S BEEN WITH US QUITE A WHILE NOW, BUT HE WAS BEING SURRENDERED BECAUSE HIS PARENTS WERE MOVING OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

AND WHEN HE CAME IN, HE WAS A SENIOR DOG.

HE WAS EXTREMELY ANXIOUS.

HE WAS NOT GOING TO DO WELL IN A SHELTER BUT HE ALSO MORE IMPORTANTLY REQUIRE TPLO SURGERY WHICH RUNS ABOUT $6,000.

SO HE CAME INTO OUR PROGRAM AND THAT'S HIS BEST CHANCE TO GET A SECOND CHANCE AT A FAMILY THE FOSTER PROGRAM REALLY HELPS US BE ABLE TO TAKE IN A LOT OF SPECIAL NEEDS ANIMALS LIKE THAT.

OUR SPAY AND NEUTER PROGRAM HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR SINCE 1997 ALSO ACTUALLY, WE DID THAT RIGHT AWAY.

AND WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED FOR SPAY AND NEUTER CERTIFICATES NOT ONLY TO RESIDENTS BUT TO THE TOWN SHELTER.

OVER THE YEARS, WE OFFER BEHAVIORAL CONSULTATIONS TO DOG AND CAT OWNERS WHO MIGHT OTHERWISE SURRENDER ANIMALS TO THE SHELTER.

AND OUR NEW FACILITY, WHICH IS IN ARGYLE THAT WE STILL MAINTAIN AN OFFICE IN FLOWER MOUND, IS ALLOWING US TO HOST DOG TRAINING CLASSES, ADOPTION EVENTS, AND EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS ON TOPICS RANGING FROM COEXISTING WITH WILDLIFE, TO SELL LEGISLATION AFFECTING ANIMALS, TO TEACHING KIDS HOW TO SAFELY INTERACT WITH ANIMALS.

AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT AFTER 30 YEARS IN THIS BUSINESS, HELPING ANIMALS IS ENTIRELY ABOUT HELPING PEOPLE.

SO THE MORE THAT WE CAN REACH PEOPLE, THE BETTER.

THE CENTER IS ALSO AVAILABLE TO SUPPORT COMMUNITIES BY HOUSING UP TO 50 ANIMALS IN CRISIS.

AT A TIME, ABOUT 11 YEARS AGO, FOR INSTANCE, WE HAD 51 MALTESE DUMPED OUT ON A COUNTRY ROAD IN FLOWER MOUND, AND COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED THE SHELTER STAFF.

SO WE DID HELP OUT IN PLACEMENT AND THE GROOMING OF THOSE ANIMALS BUT NOW WE WOULD ACTUALLY BE IN A POSITION TO PHYSICALLY TAKE ALL OF THOSE IF REQUESTED BY THE TOWN.

SO DISASTER RESPONSES, ONE OF OUR PRIMARY ASKS, ALONG WITH MEDICAL CARE FOR THIS NEXT YEAR.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO INVITE EVERYBODY TO FIDO FEST.

IT'S AN ANNUAL EVENT THAT WE HAVE AT HERITAGE PARK.

WE'VE VENDORS ACTIVITIES AND A DOG WALK, AND IT'S JUST A DAY OF CELEBRATION OF PEOPLE AND THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH DOGS.

AND FINALLY, OUR CHARACTER EDUCATION PROGRAM, WHICH VISITS THE SCHOOLS AND YOUTH GROUPS, PROMOTING RESPECT, RESPONSIBILITY, AND COMPASSION BETWEEN ANIMALS AND PEOPLE.

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AND AGAIN, THOSE PROGRAMS ARE THE ONES THAT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN THE LIVES OF BOTH ANIMALS AND PEOPLE.

SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.

>> MA'AM, DO YOU HAVE A DATE FOR FIDO FEST YET?

>> IT'S OCTOBER 14TH.

>> THANK YOU. COUNCIL FOR QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MS. SMITH. APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT.

>> THANK YOU. WE'LL WRAP IT UP WITH SPAN OF DENTON COUNTY.

MS. KRISTINE HERRERA.

>> GOOD EVENING.

FLOWER MOUND CITY COUNCIL.

I'M SO GLAD I CAN BE HERE TODAY.

MEALS-ON-WHEELS OF DENTON COUNTY.

WE SERVE HOME DELIVERED MEALS, CONGREGATE MEALS TO SENIORS ALL THROUGHOUT DENTON COUNTY.

ACTUALLY, LAST FISCAL YEAR WAS THE BEST YEAR WE HAD.

WE SERVED 1,297 CLIENTS, OVER 124,000 MEALS.

IN THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND LAST FISCAL YEAR, WE SERVED OVER 30 CLIENTS, 3,990 MEALS.

AND JUST THIS MORNING, I WANTED TO SEE HOW MANY MEALS HAVE WE SERVED YEAR TODAY, SO WITHIN THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS IN A CITY OF FLOWER MOUND.

AND WE ARE ALREADY AT 3,559, WHICH MEANS WE'RE GOING TO BE WAY OVER 4,000 MEALS BY THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR.

DUE TO WELL, WE ARE OUT OF COVID, SO WE'RE NOT SERVING ANY FROZEN MEALS, WE SERVING FIVE HOT MEALS A DAY, WE'RE BACK TO CONGREGATE MEALS.

DURING COVID FOR A LITTLE WHILE WE SERVED GRABBING GOAL, WHICH MEANS OUR CLIENTS COULD COME TO THE SENIOR CENTERS, JUST GRABBED THEIR MEAL AND GO HOME WITH IT.

WE DON'T PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ANYMORE BECAUSE COVID IS OVER YES.

AND SO SENIORS GET BACK TOGETHER AND CONGREGATE AGAIN AND EATING MEALS TOGETHER.

AND A LOT OF THE GROWTH THAT WE ARE EXPERIENCING IS BECAUSE OF COVID, WE ADDED A LOT OF SENIORS TO HOME DELIVERED MEALS PROGRAM THAT OTHERWISE MAYBE WOULDN'T HAVE QUALIFIED.

WELL, NOW THREE YEARS HAVE BEEN GONE BY AND SOME OF THESE THREE YEARS CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE SENIORS' LIFE AND THEIR HEALTH.

SO THEY WERE MAYBE MORE ACTIVE SENIORS THAT JUST WANTED TO ISOLATE IN PLACE AT HOME.

WELL, NOW THEY'RE ON WALKERS AND NOT FEELING WELL AND ACTUALLY OUR CLIENTS OF OUR PROGRAM.

UNFORTUNATELY, BUDGET RESTRAINTS DON'T REALLY ALLOW US TO SERVE ALL THESE 1,297 SENIORS.

SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE ASKING CITIES FOR MONEY TO HELP US SO WE CAN KEEP THOSE SENIORS ON THE PROGRAM AND DON'T HAVE NO WAITING LISTS BECAUSE THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT.

AND THEN JUST A COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT OUR SENIOR PAWS PROGRAM, OUR HOME-BOUND CLIENTS, IF THEY HAVE A DOG OR A CAT EVERY THIRD SATURDAY OF THE MONTH, VOLUNTEERS WILL BRING THEM DOG FOOD AND CAT FOOD.

WE DON'T GET NO FEDERAL FUNDING, CITY FUNDING, STATE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM.

NO, WE HAVE CONCERNED CITIZENS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS BRING DOG AND CAT FOOD TO OUR OFFICE IN DENTON, AND WE WILL DISTRIBUTE THAT.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE MAY BE WONDERING WHY I'M I DOING THIS? WELL, BECAUSE IF SENIORS ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THE FOOD THAT THEY NEED, HOW ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE THE PET FOOD? AND ESPECIALLY DURING COVID, WE LEARNED HOW IMPORTANT A RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN A SENIOR AND AN ANIMAL WHEN THEY'RE LONELY IS SO WE WANT TO CONTINUE HELP THE SENIORS TO CONTINUE TO BE PET OWNERS.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?

>> COUNCIL DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. HERRERA? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MA'AM.

I APPRECIATE IT. MOVING ON TO PUBLIC COMMENT.

[E. PUBLIC COMMENT]

THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY CARDS? [LAUGHTER] WE HAVE WELL OVER 30 CARDS TONIGHT SO THAT'S GOING TO PUT US OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF JUST SO EVERYONE IS TRACKING THAT.

WE WELCOME EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.

WE WILL BE LEAVING IT AT THAT THREE MINUTES AS WELL.

AS A REMINDER, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ITEM IS TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE TOWN COUNCIL REGARDING ANY ITEM ON THIS AGENDA THAT IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.

ISSUES REGARDING DAILY OPERATIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS SHOULD FIRST BE DEALT WITH BY CALLING TOWN HALL AT 972-874-6000 DURING BUSINESS HOURS.

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IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STATE LAW, THE TOWN COUNCIL IS RESTRICTED FROM DISCUSSING OR ACTING ON ITEMS NOT LISTED ON THE AGENDA.

TO SPEAK TO TOWN COUNCIL DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THE GREEN COMMENT FORMS. SPEAKERS WILL BE LIMITED TONIGHT TO THREE MINUTES.

A TONE WILL SOUND WHEN YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT, AND AGAIN, WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.

FOR THOSE OF YOU HERE FOR YOUR FIRST TIME SPEAKING, THERE'S A TIMER THERE AND THERE'S A TIMER BACK THERE, AND BECAUSE OF THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS TO THREE MINUTES.

WHEN IT IS YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TOWARDS THE TOWN COUNCIL AND NOT TOWARDS THE AUDIENCE.

IN ADDITION, THIS EVENING WE HAVE THE NEXT AT-BAT CHAIR.

I WILL BE CALLING THE SPEAKER'S NAME AND THEN I WILL BE CALLING THE NEXT UP SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE YOUR WAY TO THE NEXT BATCH HERE, AND WE CAN MOVE ALONG THROUGH THE 30 CARDS.

IF YOU'RE HERE AND WANTED TO SPEAK AND HAVEN'T FILLED OUT A CARD, PLEASE GRAB A CARD AND HAND IT TO OUR TOWN SECRETARY SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON RECORD.

WE'LL BE STARTING WITH MS. JACKIE LAMB, FOLLOWED BY EVAN LAMB.

GOOD EVENING, MA'AM. PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND PREFERABLY MUNICIPALITY.

>> MY NAME IS JACKIE LAMB.

I LIVE AT 825 TARTAN TRAIL IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE.

IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT I COULD SPEAK ON A TOPIC THAT WAS NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT HERE IT GOES.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK THIS EVENING.

THE REASON I'M HERE IS TO SEEK THE HELP OF FLOWER MOUND AS A NEIGHBOR.

MY HUSBAND AND I WHO LIVE IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE.

I HAVE A GROWN SON, EVAN, WHO LIVES IN LEWISVILLE NEAR THE FAR NORTHERN END OF GARDEN RIDGE.

HE'S EMPLOYED IN FLOWER MOUND AT A BUSINESS THAT'S JUST NORTH AND EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF 2499 AND LAKESIDE PARKWAY, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, IS THAT THE SOUTHERNMOST END OF GARDEN RIDGE.

THE JOB EVAN HAS AND ONE THAT HE ENJOYS AND SEARCH LONG AND HARD FOR ACTUALLY IS ONE THAT HE SEARCHED FOR A LONG TIME BECAUSE HE HAS AN INCURABLE DEGENERATIVE EYE DISEASE.

IT'S CALLED RETINITIS PIGMENTOSA, AND IT GRADUALLY ERODES THE PERIPHERAL VISION OF HIS EYES.

THE ISSUE WAS THIS, BECAUSE OF HIS DIMINISHING EYESIGHT, MY SON IS NOT COMFORTABLE DRIVING HIS CAR TO AND FROM WORK ANYMORE.

HE'S CONCERNED FOR OTHERS IN HIS OWN SAFETY.

EVAN AND I HAVE BOTH RESEARCHED ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION, BUT WE FOUND NONE.

UBER, FOR EXAMPLE, CHARGES A FARE OF $10.91 FOR A ONE-WAY TRIP FROM HIS HOUSE TO WORK.

THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE TIP, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WITHIN A WEEK, THE UBER COSTS WOULD ADD UP VERY QUICKLY.

THE FARE ON GOZONE IS 150 FOR A ONE-WAY TRIP, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN A FARE FOR UBER.

WE HAVE RESEARCHED MANY OTHER PLACES IF YOU WANT TO ASK ABOUT THOSE I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER.

BUT AS YOU ARE AWARE, GOZONE CARS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN FLOWER MOUND BECAUSE THE TOWN COUNCIL HAS JUST DECLINED THE SERVICES.

AS A RESULT, MY HUSBAND AND I HAVE NEEDED TO DRIVE OUR SON TO AND FROM WORK IN FLOWER MOUND EACH DAY.

WE HAVE HAD HELP FROM FRIENDS OCCASIONALLY, BUT WE CAN'T ASK THEM FOREVER.

THE CURRENT ARRANGEMENT IS JUST NOT SUSTAINABLE.

FIRST, MY HUSBAND AND I ARE NOT YOUNG, WE WON'T BE AROUND FOREVER.

SECONDLY, THIS ARRANGEMENT DOESN'T DIGNIFY MY SON'S LIFE AND HIS EFFORTS TO WORK, TO CONTRIBUTE TO THE SOCIETY, AND TO PAY TAXES.

I WILL ADD THAT I HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THERE ARE OTHERS WHO ARE VERY INTERESTED IN GOES ON IN FLOWER MOUND, BUT IN SOME I REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER IN THE FUTURE, INCLUDING GOZONE.

I HAVE SOME PETITIONS THAT TOMORROW THERESA SAID SHE COULD GET TO YOU, AND I WOULD INVITE YOU TO LOOK AT THE COMMENTS ON THOSE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. EVAN LAMB, FOLLOWED BY VJB.

>> HI. MY NAME IS EVAN LAMB AND I WAS BORN WITH RETINITIS PIGMENTOSA.

THIS DISEASE HAS AFFECTED ME FOR MY WHOLE LIFE.

BUT RECENTLY THE PROGRESSION OF THE DISEASE HAS REACHED A POINT WHERE I'M NOT ABLE TO DRIVE LIKE I USED TO.

IN 2021, I FOUND MYSELF IN A POSITION WHERE I

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NEEDED TO FIND A NEW CAREER AND I FOUND A JOB THAT I LOVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND WITH A WONDERFUL COMPANY WITH THE HELP OF THE TEXAS WORKFORCE COMMISSION AND THE VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION PROGRAM.

THEY HELPED ME WITH CAREER COUNSELING AND CANE TRAINING, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO HELP ME WITH TRANSPORTATION.

WE LOOKED INTO SPAN AND WE LOOKED INTO THE CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

REALLY DCTA WOULD BE THE BEST BENEFIT FOR NOT ONLY ME, BUT FOR OTHERS WITH DISABILITIES THAT MAY BE NEEDING TO NOT ONLY GO IN AND AROUND THE TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, BUT IN AND AROUND TOWNS AROUND DENTON COUNTY.

WITH THAT BEING SAID, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP.

I'LL JUST ALSO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE TO THE AUDIENCE.

I'M NOT VERY GOOD AT PRONOUNCING NAMES, I MAY USE YOUR LAST INITIAL.

PLEASE BEAR WITH ME VJB IF YOU COULD PRONOUNCE YOUR LAST NAME FOR ME, BUT NEXT UP AFTER VJ IS CLAUDIA ROSE. GOOD EVENING, SIR.

>> HELLO EVERYONE. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME FOR ME COMING HERE, BEING HERE IN FLOWER MOUND FOR ALMOST 10 YEARS.

MY NAME IS VJ BHAMIDIPATI.

>> START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.

>> VJ BHAMIDIPATI, 5613 CALISTO WAY, FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT FOR A DECADE NOW HERE, WE LOVE LIVING HERE.

IN FACT, IT'S FUNNY THAT IN MY WILL, I HAVE PUT ASIDE 5% TO GIVE IT TO THIS TOWN.

IT'S BEEN GREAT THE WHOLE TIME HERE.

ON MAY 20TH, THIS SATURDAY, WE WENT OUT, ME AND MY FAMILY. I HAVE TWO KIDS.

WE ALL WENT OUT FOR A GRADUATION PARTY FOR MARCUS SENIOR, AND WE WERE GONE FOR EXACTLY ONE-AND-A-HALF HOUR.

WHEN THIS HAPPENED, WE HAD OUR HOME BURGLARIZED.

SOMEONE BROKE INTO OUR HOUSE AND BASICALLY STOLE A LOT OF MONEY, 350,000 WORTH OF VALUABLES, WHICH WE HAD IN OUR HOUSE.

NOW, THAT DOESN'T SHOCK ME BECAUSE BAD PEOPLE ARE AROUND THE WORLD.

PEOPLE HAVE A CAR AND THEY CAN DRIVE TO EVEN SAFE AND GREAT NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE US.

WHAT I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT IS THE FACT THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE.

LET THE PEOPLE KNOW TO BE MORE CAREFUL, HAVE THEIR ALARMS ON.

ESPECIALLY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT JULY 4TH, EVERYONE WILL BE GOING TO THE PARK.

IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE ALL LIVE HERE AND ANYONE WITH GLOVES AND MASKS CAN JUST GO AND GET INTO YOUR HOMES, TAKE OFF THE WI-FI, AND BURGLARIZE EVERY ONE OF US.

WITH THE INFLATION RATE OF 8% TODAY, PEOPLE ARE GETTING DESPERATE.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE EVERYONE OF US TO DO IS MAYBE JUST LET EVERYONE KNOW AND GIVE ME A VENUE TO SAY MY STORY TO EVERYBODY SO PEOPLE ARE MORE CAREFUL.

ALSO, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, IF YOU ALL CAN INFLUENCE THIS, WE SHOULD TRY TO GET SOMEONE TO JUSTICE.

ONE BIG ISSUE THAT I FOUND OUT IS, IF SOMEONE BREAKS INTO YOUR HOUSE AND GETS OUT ONTO THE STREET, STREET LIGHTS DON'T HAVE CAMERAS WHICH RECORD.

IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PRIVACY, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST TOO EASY FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN NOW.

IT WILL TAKE YOU A FEW MINUTES, EXACTLY 30 MINUTES FOR ANYONE TO GO INTO YOUR HOUSE, CUT OFF YOUR WI-FI, AND JUST STEAL FROM YOU.

IF POSSIBLE, PLEASE ENABLE THAT FOR THE SAFETY OF MY TOWN PEOPLE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MR. CHILDERS IF YOU CAN MAKE A NOTE ABOUT THAT, HE BRINGS UP A GOOD POINT AND WE CAN DISCUSS THAT NOW.

CLAUDIA ROSE AND THEN FOLLOWED BY MS. ROSE WILL HAVE KAREN NIX. GOOD EVENING, MA'AM.

>> HI. I'M CLAUDIA ROSE FROM 2651 WHYBURN DRIVE HERE IN A FLOWER MOUND.

I'M 78 YEAR OLD, RETIRED LAMAR MIDDLE SCHOOL TEACHER.

[APPLAUSE] THANKS.

LIVED IN THIS AREA FOR 46 YEARS AND JUST RECENTLY SOLD MY HOUSE AND I'M LIVING AT WATERMERE, A SENIOR RESIDENTS OF 2499 IN DIXON.

THREE YEARS AGO, I HAD A VERY RARE CEREBELLAR STROKE WHICH AFFECTED MY BALANCE WITH NAUSEA AMONG OTHER THINGS, I COULD BARELY WALK, I COULDN'T LOOK UP OR DOWN,

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I COULDN'T MOVE MY NECK.

I'M HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU AS A SENIOR CITIZEN, AND AS A HANDICAPPED PERSON, AND AS A VOTER.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR ME AND FOR PEOPLE LIKE ME IS ECONOMICAL DRIVING HELP, SO I CAN GO TO THE DOCTOR, I CAN GO TO THE THERAPIST.

FOR OVER SIX MONTHS, I HAD TO IMPOSE ON PEOPLE TO DRIVE ME TWO TIMES A WEEK TO SEE THE THERAPIST.

I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GO TO SEE A SICK FRIEND TO SPEND MY MONEY AT A NEARBY FLOWER MOUND RESTAURANT OR NEARBY FLOWER MOUND STORES.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE FLOWER MOUND'S SENIOR CENTER.

I WANT TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE POLLING PLACES.

WE'RE BIG VOTERS.

BUT WHAT I REALLY WANT IS THE DIGNITY AND INDEPENDENCE EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T DRIVE OUR OWN CARS.

SO I'M ASKING FOR YOUR HELP.

I'M ASKING YOU TO EXPAND GOZONE TO FLOWER MOUND, LIKE THEY HAVE IN LEWISVILLE AND IN HIGHLAND VILLAGE SO THAT PEOPLE LIKE ME CAN CHOOSE TO LIVE IN FLOWER MOUND AND NOT IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.

I'M ASKING YOU TO PLEASE BE KIND.

SOMEDAY YOU MIGHT NEED THIS HELP TOO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MS. ROSE.

[APPLAUSE] NEXT WE'LL HAVE KAREN NIX.

KAREN WILL BE FOLLOWED BY NEVAEH BELL.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS KAREN NIX.

I RESIDE AT 2001 RING TEAL LANE, IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS.

I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF FLOWER MOUND FOR ALMOST 30 YEARS NOW.

THE REASON I AM HERE, ASIDE FROM THE FACT THAT SOME OF MY FRIENDS ARE IN A POSITION WHERE THIS WOULD BE VERY BENEFICIAL TO THEM, BUT WHAT I ALSO WANT TO SAY, IT IS NOT JUST FOR SENIORS, IT WOULD BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE SERVICES FLOWER MOUND PROVIDES FOR ITS SENIORS, BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE CARE OF WHEN SENIORS HAVE TO GO TO THE DOCTOR, WHEN SENIORS HAVE TO GO PICK UP PRESCRIPTIONS, ETC.

BUT THAT IS ALSO TRUE FOR THOSE WHO ARE DISABLED IN ANY WAY.

WHETHER IT'S THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU CANNOT DRIVE, YOU'RE PHYSICALLY OKAY BUT THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT YOU.

WE HAVE TO LOOK OUT FOR THOSE BOTH YOUNG AND OLD AND PROVIDE SOME TRANSPORTATION OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO LIVE A FULL LIFE AND TO FEEL INDEPENDENT.

THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD IS TO FEEL BOXED IN YOUR HOUSE WITH NO ONE WHO WILL BE THERE AND NOWHERE TO GO.

SO I ASK, JUST LIKE CLAUDIA DID, FOR YOU ALL TO RECONSIDER LOOKING AT GOZONE AND SEE HOW WE HAVE NO BUSES, THERE IS JUST NO REALLY TRANSPORTATION.

SENIORS ARE PRETTY GOOD BUT THOSE WHO ARE UNDER SENIOR NEED HELP US WELL.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE]

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MS. BELL, BEFORE YOU GET STARTED, LET ME JUST ALSO SAY THAT ON THE TOPIC OF GOZONE, WE HAVE ONE ADDITIONAL CARD FROM A RESIDENT WHO CHOSE NOT TO SPEAK.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TRANSITIONING TO A DIFFERENT TOPIC OF KIRKPATRICK EXTENSION.

WE HAVE 30 CARDS FOR PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AND ALSO, FOR THE RECORD, WE HAVE 21 CARDS FOR PEOPLE NOT SPEAKING.

ALSO, IF YOU COULD ALSO PLEASE TRY TO KEEP YOUR APPLAUSE TO A MINIMUM, I APPRECIATE THE EMOTIONAL RESPONSE AND THE CONCERN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE.

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THROUGH EVERYBODY.

AT THE END, I'M GOING TO ASK IF ANYBODY WISHES TO SPEAK THAT HASN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY.

YOUR TOWN COUNCIL IS GOING TO LISTEN, WE'RE GOING TAKE NOTES, AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO LISTEN AND BE RESPONSIVE.

ALSO, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT IF YOU ASK US A DIRECT QUESTION, WE BY LAW ARE NOT ALLOWED TO INTERACT AND ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

IT'S NOT US BEING DISRESPECTFUL.

AGAIN, SOME OF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN HERE BEFORE, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT OF EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE YOU MAY NOT REALIZE THAT WITH THE TOWN'S ATTORNEY SITTING THERE, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW THE RULES AND LAWS.

IF WE COULD JUST SET THAT UP,

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WE'RE GOING TO GET STARTED AGAIN, WITH MS. BELL.

FOLLOWED BY MS. BELL WILL BE JANET BUSBY.

>> MY NAME IS NEVAEH BELL, 1509 REDWOOD CRESTLINE.

I'M READING THIS LETTER RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED BY MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, DR. JAY STORY AT 1505 REDWOOD CRESTLINE.

"DEAR LEADERS OF FLOWER MOUND, MY FAMILY AND I ARE IN MINNESOTA ON AN EXTENDED VACATION, BUT WE WANTED TO EXPRESS OUR STRONG OPPOSITION TO THE KIRKPATRICK 3 EXTENSION.

WE HAVE LIVED IN RUSTIC TIMBERS SINCE 2016.

BY FAR THE BEST NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE WE HAVE EVER LIVED, INCLUDING IN MINNESOTA AND MANY DIFFERENT AREAS.

ALL OUR NEIGHBORS ARE FANTASTIC AND CARING AND THE FACT THAT FLOWER MOUND HAS TRAILS, LAND, AND OPEN SPACES IS SIMPLY THE BEST.

WE HAVE A 10 YEAR OLD SON AT FOREST VISTA.

MY WIFE, SON, AND I WALK OUR DOGS ALMOST DAILY FROM RUSTIC TIMBERS THROUGH THE QUIET SCENIC PATH TO KIRKPATRICK AND ENJOY THE QUIETER, PEACEFUL, AND SAFE ATMOSPHERE UP AND DOWN KIRKPATRICK.

ALMOST DAILY WE SEE SENIORS FROM PINEWOOD SENIOR LIVING WALKING BOTH DIRECTIONS ON KIRKPATRICK USING WALKERS, CANES, AND MOTORIZED WHEELCHAIRS.

WE LOVED THEIR BRIEF CHATS WITH THEM, AND THE FACT THAT THEY FEEL SAFE AND GET OUT TO EXERCISE.

WE ALSO RIDE OUR BIKES PRACTICALLY EVERYDAY, SEVERAL ROUNDS ON KIRKPATRICK BEFORE WE HIT THE TRAILS.

IT IS A VERY SAFE PLACE TO RIDE BIKES WITH TWO LANES.

WITH THE INCREASE IN TRAFFIC, WE MIGHT NOT EVEN BE ABLE TO GET OVER THERE, AND IF WE DO AT THE END OF KIRKPATRICK, OFF THE TRAIL WILL BE UNSAFE, CONGESTED, DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING.

KIRKPATRICK NOW IS REALLY THE SAFEST FLOWER MOUND STREET FOR WALKING, BIKING, SENIORS AND KIDS CROSSING BETWEEN OAK PARK AND RUSTIC TIMBERS NEIGHBORHOODS.

NOW THAT IS BEING THREATENED, WE RELOCATED HERE IN 2016 FROM QU'APPELLE, WHERE THERE WAS VERY LITTLE OPEN SPACE AND OUR NUMBER ONE REASON FOR CHOOSING FLOWER MOUND, THE WONDERFUL TRAILS, OPEN SPACES, PARKS, GREEN AREAS, AND NATURE.

OBVIOUSLY WE LOVE FLOWER MOUND THE WAY IT IS SAFE AND AMAZING IN SO MANY WAYS.

THE HUGE COST OF THIS PROPOSED EXTENSION TO US TAXPAYERS IS OVER-THE-TOP AND RIDICULOUS PLUS TOTALLY UNNECESSARY.

LET'S USE A LITTLE OF THOSE FUNDS TO CONNECT OR FINISH SOME OF THOSE WONDERFUL TRAILS.

WHEN WE'VE DRIVEN OUR SON TO BAKERSFIELD PARK THREE TO FOUR TIMES A WEEK FOR BASEBALL IN FALL AND SPRING.

WE NEVER ONCE THOUGHT, I WISH WE COULD HAVE CUT THROUGH KIRKPATRICK TO GET TO GARDEN RIDGE AND SAVE ONE MINUTE.

THE ROAD SYSTEM WE CURRENTLY HAVE IS GREAT.

WASTING TAX DOLLARS TO CREATE SO MANY SAFETY ISSUES MAKES NO SENSE TO MANY OF US IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND YOU'LL BE TEARING UP DESIRED NATURE AND WILDLIFE AREAS BADLY.

I AM OLDER, STILL VERY BUSY, BUT UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF VOICING MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY IN LOCAL MATTERS THAT CLEARLY AFFECT OUR COMMUNITY SAFETY AND WELL-BEING.

THIS WILL BE A STRESS EVERYDAY ON OUR LIVES AND SAFETY.

PLEASE REAPPROPRIATE THESE FUNDS FOR MORE PRIORITY NEEDS.

THANK YOU, TOWN COUNCIL AND ELECTED OFFICIALS FOR LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE."

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WILL BE JANET BUSBY, FOLLOWED BY STEVE CARPENTER.

>> MY NAME IS JANET BUSBY.

I LIVE ON 1400 RIVER OAKS DRIVE.

I SIMPLY WANT TO SAY I'M OPPOSED TO THIS EXTENSION FOR ALL THE REASONS SHE MENTIONED AND MANY MORE REASONS YOU'LL BE HEARING I'M SURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU MA'AM, FOR COMING TONIGHT.

NEXT IS STEVE CARPENTER FOLLOWED BY SCOTT CONNOR.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR US.

>> MY NAME IS STEVE CARPENTER.

I LIVE AT 3812 OAK PARK DRIVE.

MY WIFE AND I HAVE LIVED HERE FOR 24 YEARS.

OUR OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD IS ADJACENT TO KIRKPATRICK LANE AND WE'RE AGAINST THIS KIRKPATRICK 3 SOUTHERN EXTENSION MAINLY FOR THE FOLLOWING THREE REASONS.

EXTREME COST WITH NO TIME OR DISTANCE GAINED.

FROM THE RED LIGHT AT KIRKPATRICK ACROSS TIMBERS, IT TAKES ABOUT ONE MINUTE OF TRAVEL TIME EASTWARD TO OUR RIGHT-HAND TURN LANE ON TO GARDEN RIDGE SOUTH.

ANOTHER ONE OR TWO MINUTES TRAVEL TIME TAKES YOU TO THE INTERSECTION OF BELLEVUE AND KIRKPATRICK.

SINCE THE PROPOSED EXPANSION OF KIRKPATRICK SOUTH WILL BRING YOU TO THE EXACT SAME LOCATION, WHY SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS WHEN THE DISTANCE IS THE SAME? TRAVEL TIME MAY EVEN BE LONGER ON KIRKPATRICK DUE TO PROBABLE NEED FOR STOP SIGNS, AS EXPLAINED LATER.

SCHOOL ZONES SLOWDOWN IN SCHOOL PICK-UP AND DROP-OFF TRAFFIC, TWO NEGATIVE IMPACT ON ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOODS.

A QUOTE FROM THE 2022, '23 FLOWER MOUND STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION SAYS, "THE ULTIMATE GOAL FOR THE TOWN IS A SUPERIOR QUALITY OF LIFE FOR ITS RESIDENTS."

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WHEN THIS EXTENSION WAS PROPOSED IN 1997, RUSTIC TIMBERS AND OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOODS WERE BEING DEVELOPED.

PINEWOOD HILLS RETIREMENT CENTER, VICKERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, AND FLOWER MOUND OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD DID NOT EXIST THEN.

NOW, 26 YEARS LATER, ALL OF THESE HOMES, RETIREMENT CENTER, AND SCHOOL ARE IN PLACE.

THE QUALITY OF MANY MORE RESIDENTS MUST BE CONSIDERED.

TRAFFIC SAFETY FOR STUDENTS AT VICKERY ELEMENTARY IS PARAMOUNT.

THE NEGATIVE IMPACT OF CONSTRUCTION ITSELF WILL GREATLY DISTURBED OUR NEIGHBORHOODS FOR POSSIBLY AS LONG AS TWO OR THREE YEARS.

THE CREEK ENVIRONMENT AND WILDLIFE AND THE GREENBELT WILL ALSO BE GREATLY IMPACTED.

THREE, SAFETY.

WITH INCREASED TRAFFIC ENTERING AND EXITING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PINEWOOD HILLS RETIREMENT CENTER WILL BE CHALLENGING.

THE INTERSECTION OF WOOD CREEK AND KIRKPATRICK IS ALREADY A BUSY INTERSECTION AS IT SERVES OUR OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD, THE NEIGHBORHOOD EAST OF OAK PARK, AND THE DRIVE INTO AND OUT OF THE PINEWOOD HILLS RETIREMENT CENTER.

LITTLE FURTHER SOUTH ON KIRKPATRICK, THE EVENING PRIMROSE TRAIL BEGINS AND IS HEAVILY USED BY OAK PARK RESIDENTS.

CROSSING FOUR LANES OF TRAFFIC WOULD BE DANGEROUS FOR PEDESTRIANS WITH CHILDREN AND DOGS.

IN SUMMARY, WE FEEL THE IMPACT OF THIS KIRKPATRICK EXTENSION WILL NEGATIVELY AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR MANY PEOPLE.

THE VALUE ADDED FOR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT DOES NOT WARRANT THE MILLIONS IN COST FOR CONSTRUCTION WITH NO GAIN IN TIME OR DISTANCE.

ALONG WITH ALL THE NEGATIVE EFFECTS OF THE EXTENSION, WE URGE YOU TO CANCEL THIS PROJECT AND USE THE ALLOTTED FUNDS FOR EXISTING STREET AND THEN FOR STRUCTURE MAINTENANCE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CARPENTER.

NEXT WILL BE SCOTT CONNOR, FOLLOWED BY [NOISE] [INAUDIBLE].

MR. CONNOR.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

SCOTT CONNOR, 1005 BLUSTERY COURTS, WHICH IS IN THE FLOWER MOUND OAKS NEIGHBORHOOD, ALSO OPPOSED TO THE KIRKPATRICK EXTENSION.

I WILL NOT REPEAT WHAT I THINK IS GOING TO BE SAID MANY TIMES, WHICH ARE A LOT OF SUBJECTIVE REASONS.

MY OBJECT OF REASONS WHICH INCLUDE COST IT'S GOING TO BE ALMOST ALL BRIDGE, WHICH ALL WERE AWARE OF.

I THINK THERE'S A CONVERSATION AND A COUPLE OF MINUTES AFTER THE PUBLIC SPEAKING ABOUT SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THIS, WHICH I THINK MOST ARE GOING TO BE ABOUT SOME TRAFFIC PATTERN INCLUDING MAYBE THE POLICE BEING ABLE TO GET TO GARDEN RIDGE QUICKER.

I WOULD SAY, THOSE ARE FAR OUTWEIGHED BY THE OTHER OBJECTIVE REASON WHICH IS STATISTICALLY AND LOGICALLY, CRIME HAPPENS LESS IN AREAS WHERE THERE'S ONE AREA OF INGRESS AND EGRESS.

SO THINKING ON THE GARDEN RIDGE ROADSIDE WHERE MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS AND WHERE VICKERY ELEMENTARY IS, VERY SAFE PLACE BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE WAY IN AND ONE WAY OUT.

AND IF YOU MAKE IT TO WHERE THEY CAN GET IN AND OUT BOTH WAYS, IT'S LESS SAFE FOR THE KIDS THAT GO TO SCHOOL THERE AND FOR MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH I'M PERSONALLY OPINIONATED ABOUT, BUT I WOULD SAY EVEN THE SCHOOL KIDS, THERE'S A LOT OF WALKERS AT VICTORY.

I'VE WORKED AT HOME SINCE COVID.

I SEE THEM EVERY DAY.

THERE'S GREAT CROSSWALK PEOPLE, BUT THEY'RE ONLY GOING IN ONE DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

AND TO INCREASE TRAFFIC AT THAT INTERSECTION, I THINK IT WOULD BE DANGEROUS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, MR. CONNOR. MA'AM DESIREE, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY ANNAN KUMAR. MA'AM.

>> HI, MY NAME IS DESIREE [INAUDIBLE] AND MY ADDRESS IS 805 BLUE SKY LANE, FLOWER MOUND.

I LIVE IN THE FLOWER MOUND OAKS COMMUNITY NEAR THE VICKERY ELEMENTARY.

I OPPOSE THIS KIRKPATRICK 3 EXTENSION BECAUSE I FEEL THAT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS OF FLOWER MOUND OAKS, AS WELL AS THE CHILDREN WHO GO TO VICKERY ELEMENTARY IT WILL BE AFFECTED REALLY BADLY BECAUSE OF THIS EXTENSION.

ALSO THIS BEAUTIFUL NATURE WHICH IS RIGHT BEHIND OUR COMMUNITY, THE WILDLIFE, BOTH OF THIS WILL BE REALLY AFFECTED.

IT WILL BE DESTROYED.

SO I REQUEST TO CANCEL THIS PROJECT BECAUSE OF THESE REASONS AND ALSO THE REASONS PROVIDED BY THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE BEFORE ME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. ANNAN KUMAR, AND THEN FOLLOWED BY ELENA JOHNSON

>> HI. I AM ANNAN KUMAR.

I LIVE AT 1001 BLUSTERY COURT, FLOWER MOUND.

I AM ALSO OPPOSING THE EXPANSION OF KIRKPATRICK LANE, MAINLY BECAUSE I'M A NATURE LOVER AND WHEN I MOVED TO TEXAS

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FROM MILWAUKEE I FELT LIKE FLOWER MOUND IS VERY CLOSE TO THE GREENERY THAT I USED TO LIVE.

I LIKE THE LOOK OF FLOWER MOUND WHICH DEPICTS A BIG TREE AND I WANT OUR FLOWER MOUND TO PRESERVE ALL THE TREES THAT WE HAVE NEAR KIRKPATRICK AND ALSO PROVIDE A SAFETY TO THE SUBDIVISIONS AROUND IT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MR. KUMAR. ELENA JOHNSON FOLLOWED BY MICHELLE JACKSON.

>> HI. I'M ELENA JOHNSON.

1314 BLAIRWOOD DRIVE, FLOWER MOUND AND I HAVE A STRONG OPPOSITION ALSO TO KIRKPATRICK LANE EXTENSION.

THE COST FROM 2021 HAS PROJECTED A $900,000 FOR THE DESIGN, ALMOST A MILLION DOLLARS AND $12.5 MILLION FOR THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SINCE IT'S A BRIDGE FOR ABOUT 2,000 FEET.

COSTS HAVE OBVIOUSLY INCREASED SINCE THEN, AND I JUST DON'T FEEL LIKE WE NEED THAT ADDED BUDGET.

SOME WILL BE DONE BY THE COUNTY, BUT THE REST WILL MADE UP BY TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND.

PLUS THE ROAD AND ALL OF ITS FUTURE MAINTENANCE WOULD BE ON TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND, WHEREAS THE CURRENT 1171 GARDEN RIDGE.

MAINTENANCE IS BURDENED BY TXDOT AND THEN SHARED BY LOUIS FILM FLOWER MOUND.

THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE.

THERE'S A DEDICATED LANE TO TURN RIGHT OR SOUTH ONTO GARDEN RIDGE FROM 1171, SO TRAFFIC FLOWS WELL IN 1171, THE KIRKPATRICK CUT THROUGH IS REDUNDANT.

TOWN GROWTH IS ALSO HEADED WEST AND THIS IS ON THE EASTMOST BORDER OF TOWN.

IN FACT, THE TRAFFIC COUNTS I'VE RECEIVED ARE CURRENTLY BELOW PRE-PANDEMIC TRAFFIC COUNT NUMBERS, EVEN WITH ALL THE RECENT GROWTH IN THE TOWN.

THE PROPOSED ROAD CUTS THROUGH ACREAGE OF BEAUTIFUL GREEN SPACE AND CREEK WHERE MANY TREES AND WILDLIFE RESIDE.

WILDLIFE WILL BE DISPLACED FROM THIS HABITAT, WE ALREADY HAVE A LOT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S GOING TO FUNNEL AND EVEN MORE.

THE ROAD IS GOING TO CUT THROUGH A SLEEPY RESIDENTIAL AREA THAT INCLUDES A RETIREMENT HOME, AND NEIGHBORHOODS, AND AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

IT'LL PASS BY VICKERY IF YOU'VE EVER DRIVEN MORNING OR AFTERNOON, IT'S BACKS UP SIGNIFICANTLY ON THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF KIRKPATRICK RIGHT THERE AND IT'S JUST REALLY EASY TO BYPASS THAT BY GOING GARDEN RIDGE, WHICH IS ALREADY IN PLACE.

NONE OF THE FAMILY ZONE FOR VICKERY WOULD EVEN PROBABLY USE THIS SINCE THEY ARE ZONED OUTSIDE OF THAT LITTLE STRETCH RIGHT THERE, THAT CONNECTS TO 1171.

THEN CONCLUSION, I THINK KIRKPATRICK PHASE 3 IS TRULY REDUNDANT, A DEBT BURDEN, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD DO SENSE.

THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP.

MICHELLE JACKSON, FOLLOWED BY LEONARD GILBERT.

>> HI GUYS, HOW ARE YOU? MY NAME IS MICHELLE JACKSON, I LIVE AT 3820 OAK PARK DRIVE AND I'M HERE WITH MY NEIGHBORS WHO OPPOSE THE KIRKPATRICK 3 EXTENSION.

OBVIOUSLY, IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

THIS IS A VERY SLEEPY, QUIET, AND SAFE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE LIKE IT THAT WAY, WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY.

BUT TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE, I DID SOME DIGGING AND THE PROJECT WAS APPROVED IN 1997.

I THINK THAT IN '97, SINCE OUR TOWN'S MASTER PLAN, THEY WERE TRYING TO ANTICIPATE A HIGHER AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC FLOW THAN WHATEVER CAME TO FRUITION.

THE PINEWOOD HILLS RETIREMENT LIVING CENTER DID NOT EXIST THEN, AT THE TIME IT WAS PLANNED IN ZONED FOR RETAIL SPACE.

THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS THEY HAD CONSIDERED DOING A WALMART THERE, A GAS STATION, AND I THINK THEY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A HIGHER TRAFFIC FLOW THAN JUST EVER TURNED OUT TO BE, BECAUSE THE ENTIRE PARCEL WAS BOUGHT BY THE PEOPLE THAT BUILT PINEWOOD HILLS, THEY'LL NEVER BE ANYTHING ELSE AND IT'S JUST STAYED SLEEPY.

THIS IS REALLY EXPENSIVE FOR SUCH A SLEEPY PART OF TOWN.

YOU GOT THE LOWEST FLOW OF TRAFFIC AND THE TRAFFIC STUDIES FOR COMPARISON, LAKESIDE AREA, IT'S 100,000 CARS OF FLOW A DAY.

WE CLOCKED IN AT UNDER 5,000 CARS OF FLOW DAY, [NOISE] BUT I CAN TELL YOU IT'S NOT EVEN 500 CARS OF FLOW TODAY.

WE'RE CONSIDERING DOING THIS VERY EXPENSIVE AND DISRUPTIVE PROJECT IN A VERY LOW TRAFFIC FLOW AREA.

AND IT'S GOING TO DISTURB A TON OF WILDLIFE, BECAUSE YOU GOT TO BRIDGE OVERPASS, THE CREEK, THE SEWAGE AND EVERYTHING.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING THIS GIGANTIC BRIDGE STRUCTURE.

LOT OF THE MONEY, NEVER WAS THERE IN THE PAST, WE DIDN'T DO THIS, NEVER BEEN CONSIDERED EXCEPT THAT THE COUNTY GAVE MONEY, WHICH ISN'T NOW HOW IT'S EVEN AFFORDABLE.

BUT THE COUNTY IS NOT GOING TO GIVE MONEY FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND THE COST OF BUILDING IT IS ONE COST, BUT THE COST OF MAINTAINING IT GOES ON AD INFINITUM.

I JUST THINK WE NEED TO RECONSIDER IT, IT'S AN OLD PLAN, IT'S OUTDATED, IT DOESN'T SUIT THE TOWN'S NEEDS NOW, ESPECIALLY AT THE COST OF DISTURBING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, AFFECTING OUR QUALITY OF LIFE, AND ALSO GETTING INTO THAT GREEN SPACE, THERE'S POST OAK TREES BACK THERE, ALL KINDS OF WILDLIFE ANIMALS.

PEOPLE ENJOY THE SPACE, THERE'S WALKERS, THERE'S BIKERS.

YOU SEE THE PEOPLE FROM THE RETIREMENT CENTER ARE ALWAYS OVER THERE GETTING SOME EXERCISING.

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I JUST THINK IT'S JUST TIME FOR US TO SAY, EVEN THOUGH WE MADE A PLAN IN 1997, MAYBE THAT PLAN DOESN'T APPLY TO US TODAY.

IT'S AMAZING THAT WE'RE ABLE TO COME HERE TO SPEAK TO YOU GUYS.

THIS IS DEMOCRACY, YOU GUYS ARE OUR LEADERS, YOU'RE THE ONES THAT WE ELECTED TO COME, AND MAKE [NOISE] OUR NEIGHBORHOOD GREAT, AND WE JUST WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY, BECAUSE WE LOVE LIVING HERE, AND WE WANT TO KEEP IT THAT WAY. THANKS.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. LEONARD GILBERT, FOLLOWED BY KRISTY.

SORRY. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LET US KNOW HOW THAT ONE GOES. MR. GILBERT.

>> MY NAME IS LEONARD GILBERT, I LIVE AT 3512 GOLDEN ASPEN DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.

I AM OPPOSED AND MY WIFE WAS ALSO OPPOSED TO THE EXTENSION OF KIRKPATRICK.

EXTENDING KIRKPATRICK WILL NOT ALLOW TRAFFIC TO GO ANYPLACE THAT IT CANNOT ALREADY EASILY GET TO.

I DON'T FEEL THAT IT WILL SPEED TRAFFIC UP ANY.

IF IT DOES GET EXTENDED, IT WILL GO BY PINEWOOD HILLS RETIREMENT HOME, I'M SURE THOSE PEOPLE DON'T NEED MORE TRAFFIC.

IT WILL ALSO GO BY VICKERY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WHICH ALREADY HAS TRAFFIC PROBLEMS IN THAT AREA.

I WOULD ASSUME PROBABLY THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A STOPLIGHT PUT TO THE EAST TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL OF KIRKPATRICK HAS EXPANDED AND HAS ANY TRAFFIC, WHICH WOULD BE AN ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.

ANOTHER THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT WOULD BE PRETTY LENGTHY STRAIGHTAWAY FROM CROSS TIMBER SOUTH.

IT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF SIDE STREETS COMING IN [NOISE] OFF OF THE EASTSIDE.

IT MAKE A WONDERFUL DRIVE STREET FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO THAT.

THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP ANYBODY IN FLOWER MOUND AT ALL WE HAVE UNSANCTIONED DRIVE TRAP.

[NOISE] IF THE EXTENSION IS MADE, IT WILL HAVE TO BE OR SHOULD BE A BRIDGE, BECAUSE THAT AREA IS A FLOOD AREA.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT ARE THE PLANS WOULD CALL FOR A BRIDGE THAT WAS JUST A COUPLE OF FEET OFF OF THE HIGHWAY, OR OFF OF THE GROUND LEVEL, OR IT'D BE HIGHER, BUT IF IT'S HIGHER, IT WOULD BE A POSSIBLE HAVEN FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE.

[NOISE] IF IT'S A LOW BRIDGE, I CAN SEE THAT THERE PROBABLY BE WATER PUDDLES UNDER THERE, AND BE A HAVEN FOR MOSQUITOES, AND WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE OF THOSE.

REGARDLESS, THE TYPE OF EXTENSION THAT WAS PUT IN THERE, THERE'LL BE HUNDREDS, MAYBE THOUSANDS OF TREES THAT ARE BEING KNOCKED DOWN AND SHREDDED.

FOR A TOWN, PRIDE YOURSELVES IN TREES, THAT'S NOT VERY GOOD THING.

I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE MONEY, IF POSSIBLE, WOULD BE BETTER SPENT REPAIRING CURRENT ROADS, STREET LIGHTS ON THAT TYPE OF SOME. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. KRISTY K. FOLLOWED BY BHURI MANHAR.

>> HI, MY NAME IS KRISTY KIRCHNAVY AND I LIVE AT 3900 OAK PARK DRIVE IN FLOWER MOUND.

I LIVE IN THE OAK PARK COMMUNITY WITH MY HUSBAND AND FOUR YEAR OLD SON.

OUR STREET BACKS UP TO KIRKPATRICK AND I'M OPPOSED TO THE EXTENSION.

WE MOVED HERE FIVE YEARS AGO, BECAUSE IT WAS A GOOD PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY AND TO BE OUTSIDE.

AS WE JUST CELEBRATED, WE'RE PROUD OF OUR PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT.

OUR FAMILY FREQUENTLY RIDE TO OUR BIKE ON THE PRIMROSE EVENING TRAIL, WHICH MEANS WE CROSS KIRKPATRICK.

EXTENDING KIRKPATRICK AS A THOROUGHFARE WOULD CREATE MORE TRAFFIC ON THAT ROAD, THAT FAMILIES LIKE MINE USED TO ACCESS THE WONDERFUL TRAIL SYSTEM THAT WE HAVE HERE.

THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD DISPLACE WILDLIFE SUCH AS RATS, CAYOTES AND SNAKES.

THEY KNOW THIS IS TRUE, BECAUSE WHEN THEY DID CONSTRUCTION ON THE PIPELINE, OUR COMMUNITY HAD SEVERAL COPPER HEADS FOUND IN GARAGES.

THEY COULD ENDANGER THE CHILDREN LIVING THERE LIKE MY FOUR YEAR OLD SON.

I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND I HOPE YOU LISTENED TO ALL THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSED TO THIS IDEA. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. BHURI FOLLOWED BY MR. PAUL STONE.

>> MY NAME IS BHURI MANHAR AND I LIVE ON 809 BLUE SKY LANE.

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MY HOUSE BACKS TO THE GREEN SPACE THAT YOU ALL THINKING OF DEVELOPING.

I WOULDN'T CALL IT A GREAT IDEA, BECAUSE WE HAVE PLENTY OF WILDLIFE, WE HEAR THE COYOTES THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.

WE MOVE FROM PLANO, AND IT'S A BEAUTIFUL AREA, AND WE DON'T WANT THE NATURE TO BE DESTROYED.

I TOTALLY OPPOSE THE EXTENSION OF KIRKPATRICK. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. APOLOGIES FOR THE NAME.

MR. PAUL STONE, FOLLOWED BY JERRY MENTORS.

>> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, STAFF.

I AM PAUL STONE, I RESIDE 1868 MEYERWOOD LANE NORTH, HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

HERE TO ESTABLISH WHY I'M SPEAKING, AND I WAS TRYING NOT TO DEAL WITH YOU GUYS ANYMORE, BUT THIS BRINGS IT OUT.

I'VE LIVED IN FLOWER MOUND FOR 33 YEARS.

I'VE HAD THE PLEASURE OF SERVING THIS TOWN, AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PARK BOARD, CHAIRMAN OF THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, CHAIRMAN OF CHAIRS BOARD.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IN 97 I CO-CHAIRED THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, WHICH RECOMMENDED THE EXTENSION OF KIRKPATRICK.

NOW, I SUBMITTED A PIR WHICH I'M SURE MOST OF YOU SAW, AND I REALLY ONLY GOT SIX DIFFERENT EMAILS BUT IT CUT OFF ON THE NIGHT.

I'M SURE YOU'VE RECEIVED MANY MORE, BUT I'LL BET YOU DOLLARS TO DOUGHNUTS.

YOU HAVEN'T GOTTEN MORE THAN THREE THESE DONUTS FOR YOU.

I THINK I'M AN AGGRAVATES SOME PEOPLE HERE, BECAUSE I'M GOING TO SHARE SOME TRUTH WITH YOU.

I KNOW IT'S NOT LIKE GOVERNMENT PEOPLE ESPECIALLY FBI TO SHARE TRUTH, BUT I'M GOING TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO IT, AND I WILL DEBATE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM.

LET'S TALK ABOUT MONEY.

WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY IN THIS TOWN OF WASTING MONEY.

MOST RECENTLY WAS $1.9 MILLION PURCHASE FROM LISD, AND DEMO COSTS AS TO TRY TO GET ART CENTER OVER AT TIMBER CREEK, AND YOU CAN'T BUILD IT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH YOU PAID.

THE CONSULTANT CAME IN AND SAID, "WON'T HAPPEN HERE." THIS IS NOT FROM SOME EMAILS.

I GOT TO FAST NOW.

IT'S NOT A TXDOT PROJECT.

THERE IS NO FLOWER MOUND AD VALOREM TAXES BEING USED FOR THIS PROJECT WHOSE ONLY IMPACT FEES.

YOU PAY COUNTY TAXES, BUT THE COUNTY IS ON THE HOOK FOR THE $11 MILLION.

AND I'VE HEARD THINGS THAT I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THAT.

IF YOU DON'T USE IT, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT.

THERE HAVE BEEN THREE BUNDLE AUTHORIZATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT 197 WHICH WAS THE TOWN, AND TWO BY THE COUNTY MOST RECENTLY LAST YEAR PROVIDING THE $11 MILLION FUND PROJECTS SCOPE.

THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE FOR KIDDOS, AND TWO SCHOOLS ARE RIGHT ON THAT BEL-AIR.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS OF RUSTIC TIMBERS.

THEY HAVE A 300 FOOT GREENBELT THAT SEPARATES THEM FROM KIRKPATRICK AND IT'S PARKLAND, AND FLOODPLAIN.

NOTHING'S GOING TO BE OVER BY THOSE PEOPLE'S HOUSE.

>> THANK YOU, MR. STONE. YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED PLEASE DON'T MAKE ME HAVE TO GALVA YOUR AGAIN.

>> WELL, THEY ALREADY SHUT MY MIC.

>> I HAVE, YEAH.

>> YOU'LL HEAR MORE FROM ME.

>> THANK YOU.

>> AFTER MR. JAMES GIBSON'S PRESENTATION.

>> THANK YOU, MR. STONE.

>> I'LL BE BACK.

>> NEXT UP MR. JERRY MENTORS, FOLLOWED BY ERICA MULDER.

>> MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL.

THANK YOU. I LIVE IN THE RUSTIC TIMBERS NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> MY NAME IS JERRY MENTORS.

>> SIR, IF YOU COULD PULL UP MICROPHONE DOWN, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

>> I'M SORRY.

>>THERE.

>> MY NAME IS JERRY MENTORS.

I LIVE AT 3,700 GOLDEN ASPEN DRIVE.

I'VE LIVED THERE FOR OVER 21 YEARS.

WHEN I'VE LIVED FROM WASHINGTON DC TO LOS ANGELES, I WORKED FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

I RETIRED FROM THE GOVERNMENT, I'VE LIVED IN CHICAGO EVERYWHERE.

FLOWER MOUND, I'M GOING TO TELL YOU RIGHT NOW COUNCIL, MR. MAYOR, YOU HAVE THE BEST THING GOING ON THE PLANET.

TO DO KIRKPATRICK,

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IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

WHEN I WAS FIRST APPROACHED ABOUT, WE NEED TO LOOK AT THIS.

CERTAINLY, YEAH, RUSTIC TIMBERS HAS A BIG GREENBELT BETWEEN KIRKPATRICK.

HOWEVER I CAN HEAR THE TRAFFIC FROM EVERYWHERE, SO THAT'S NOT THE REASON.

THE REASON IS FLOWER MOUND.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR LOGO, LOOK AT IT IT'S A TREE, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 21 YEARS.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TREES WE'VE DESTROYED.

THE PROGRESS HAS BEEN GREAT.

I LIVE IN A BEAUTIFUL TOWN, BUT IT'S TIME TO STOP DESTROYING TREES.

IT'S TIME TO STOP, STOP BUILDING STREETS WHERE WE DON'T NEED THEM.

IT'S TIME TO STOP ENDANGERING OUR CHILDREN, AND OUR ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS.

I WOULD REALLY ENCOURAGE THE COUNCIL TO LOOK AT THIS VERY DEEPLY.

AND MR. MAYOR, KEEP OUR TOWN THE WAY WE ALL- I GET. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. MS. ERICA MULDER, FOLLOWED BY STEVEN NORTHROP.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS, TOWN MANAGER CHILDRESS.

MY NAME IS ERICA MULDER.

I LIVE AT 3804 OAK PARK DRIVE HERE IN FLOWER MOUND.

YOU'VE HEARD ALL OF THE TALKING POINTS, ALL OF THE SENTIMENTS THAT I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THAT WE OPPOSE KIRKPATRICK PHASE 3.

BEYOND THE SAFETY ISSUES, I COME TO YOU TONIGHT WITH A PLEAT.

SHOULD YOU MOVE FORWARD WITH KIRKPATRICK PHASE 3, PLEASE CONSIDER IN YOUR DESIGN PAYS STOPLIGHTS, STOP SIGNS, PEDESTRIAN CROSSINGS.

AS A MOM OF YOUNG CHILDREN, THAT FREQUENTS THE TRAIL SYSTEM, THAT IS CRITICAL.

AT VERY LEAST I FEEL THAT PROMOTE SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN, FOR OUR FAMILIES, FOR OUR SENIOR CITIZENS, AS WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT, THAT REALLY UTILIZE THE AREA.

THAT BEING SAID, WE HOPE THAT YOU ALSO CONSIDER TO NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.

BUT CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THE VISIONARY, THE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT, AND ALL THE WORK THAT YOU CONTINUE TO DO DAY IN, DAY OUT.

WE APPRECIATE THAT. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM.

>> ALL RIGHT, STEVEN NORTHROP, FOLLOWED BY PAMELA PASCAL.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME GUYS.

MY NAME IS STEVEN NORTHROP.

I LIVE AT 3,500 GOLDEN ASPEN DRIVE.

THAT'S IN THE RUSTIC TIMBERS NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE ARE VERY AGAINST THE KIRKPATRICK EXPANSION PROJECT, OR HOUSE BACKS UP DIRECTLY TO THE GREENBELT, AND BETWEEN US AND THE ROAD.

ONE OF THE BIGGEST SELLING POINTS, THAT WAS THE PRIVACY OF THE WOODS BEHIND OUR HOUSE, WHICH WOULD BE REPLACED BY ROAD.

THIS PROJECT WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT DETRIMENT TO THE NATURE AND WILDLIFE, THAT SURROUND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WILL ALSO COST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS.

THE ONLY THING WE WOULD GAIN, WILL BE THE EXCESSIVE NOISE, LOSS OF NATURE, WILDLIFE, AND THE PERMANENT NEGATIVE IMPACT, AND DESIRABILITY, AND FUTURE RESALE VALUE OF A HOUSE AS WELL.

THE ROAD WOULD NOT CUT DOWN ON DRIVE TIME, OR TRAFFIC WHEN TAKING OUR EIGHT-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER TO SCHOOL, NEITHER OF WHICH WERE EVEN A CONCERN OR ISSUE BEFORE HEARING THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR.

>> WE HAVE PAMELA PASCAL, FOLLOWED BY SAM PASCAL.

>> PASCAL.

>> PASCAL. SORRY, THERE WE GO.

>> I OPPOSE THIS EXTENSION.

>>MA'AM IF YOU COULD START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, I'D APPRECIATE IT.

>> I'M SORRY.

PAMELA PASCAL,1333 RIVER OAKS DRIVE.

I OPPOSE THIS BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING EVERYBODY ELSE STATED.

WE BACK RIGHT UP TO THE GREENBELT ALSO, AND WE SEE WE HAD BOBCATS FIGHTING IN A TREE UP ABOVE THERE.

WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF WILDLIFE.

WE SAW FIVE BIRDS YESTERDAY IN A LITTLE AREAS, DIFFERENT KINDS OF BIRDS.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE AREA.

AND TO DESTROY THAT WOULD BE A TRAVESTY.

SO PLEASE CONSIDER NOT DOING THIS. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. PASCAL.

>> THANK YOU. MY NAME IS SAM PASCAL, 133 RIVER OAKS DRIVE FLOWER MOUND.

I JUST LOVE THIS CITY.

WE'VE LIVED HERE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.

AND I SEE THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY AS THE FLOWERS OF THE CITY, IT'S JUST A BEAUTIFUL PLACE.

IT'S OBVIOUSLY WELL-RUN, BECAUSE YOU DRIVE AROUND FLOWER MOUND AND IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.

OUR HOUSE IS BEAUTIFUL.

MY WIFE AND I CALL IT A SANCTUARY.

AND WE SIT THERE IN OUR BACKYARD.

WE LOOK AT THE BEAUTIFUL BACKYARD AND IT'S ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL.

WE JUST LOVE THE PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN.

WE GO WALK RIGHT DOWN THE END OF THE CUL DE SAC, DOWN TO THE STREAM,

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AND BEHIND OUR STREAM IS AMAZING ABOUT A FOUR-FOOT WATERFALL.

I SIT THERE AND IT THIS BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO SIT, STREAMS FLOWING BY, AND I PRAY FOR THE CITY, I PRAY FOR YOU AS THE TOWN COUNCIL.

IT'S LIKE TO HAVE PEACE AND TO HAVE PROSPERITY FOR THIS ENTIRE CITY.

MY WIFE AND I WOULD JUST LOVE CITIZENS OF THE CITY YOUNG AND OLD ALIKE, AND THEY DO THEY COME DOWN TO THE STREAM.

WE LOVE THEM BACK THERE, I SEE THEM OFTEN.

PEOPLE WALKING THEIR DOGS, THEIR HAVING THEIR CHILDREN DOWN THERE.

AND WE WOULD ENCOURAGE IT.

IT'S LIKE A PARK, AND I BROUGHT PEOPLE FROM THE CITY DOWN THERE AND SAY, COULD YOU CLEAN UP CERTAIN AREAS THAT IS INHIBITING THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE THAT COME DOWN HERE.

I CARE ABOUT THIS PLACE.

WELL DO THE ALIGNMENT OF KIRKPATRICK ON A NORTH-SOUTH ALIGNMENT.

IT COMES RIGHT BEHIND OUR HOUSE, AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THE BRIDGE AND HERE THE TRAFFIC.

AND IT WILL COMPLETELY CHANGE THE DYNAMIC OF WHERE WE LIVE.

THE COMMENTS ABOUT WILDLIFE HAS REAL.

I HAD TOOK THIS PHOTOGRAPH.

I KNOW IT'S HARD TO SEE HERE, BUT IT'S AN EASTERN SWALLOWTAIL, TOOK THAT ON SATURDAY.

I GO DOWN THERE, AND I PHOTOGRAPHED.

I TOOK A VIDEO OF A BOBCAT JUMPING ACROSS THE STREAM.

IT'S THE COOLEST PHOTOGRAPH.

AND WE SEE ALL KINDS OF WILDLIFE.

WELL, RIGHT THERE, ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREAM IS A HUGE GREENBELT.

AND THAT'S WHERE THAT PROVIDES THE CONVEYANCE.

IF A LOT OF WILDLIFE THAT COMES ONTO OUR PROPERTY, LIKE SATURDAY HAD A BOBCAT WALKOUT BETWEEN OUR TWO VEHICLES.

IT'S JUST AN AMAZING PLACE TO LIVE, AND SO I OPPOSE THIS.

I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH, BUT I OPPOSE IT BECAUSE I THINK IT WILL REALLY IMPACT THE CITY OF FLOWER MOUND. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP IS DIANE PRESTON.

AFTER MS. PRESTON WILL BE MICHAEL RITTENHOUSE.

>> I'M DIANE PRESTON, I LIVE AT 1124 LOPO ROAD HERE IN FLOWER MOUND, TEXAS WITH MY HUSBAND BILL, WHO'S HERE TONIGHT.

I CANNOT SAY ANYMORE THAN THESE PEOPLE HAVE SAID ABOUT NOT PUTTING THIS THROUGH THAT AREA.

BUT I'M THE ONE THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE MOST FROM HAVING THIS BRIDGE.

BECAUSE WHEN WE MOVED HERE, LOPO ROAD JUST WENT OUT TO GARDEN RIDGE WHICH DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE.

IT WAS JUST A LITTLE ASPHALT PLACE AND NOBODY EVER CAME DOWN LOPO ROAD.

WELL, WHEN THEY PUT THE BRIDGE IN, NOW IT'S FOUR LANE ON GARDEN RIDGE AND PEOPLE COME DOWN MY STREET, LOPO ROAD TO CUT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO GET OUT ONTO KIRKPATRICK.

THE BRIDGE WOULD REALLY BENEFIT ME.

BUT I DON'T WANT IT, [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE TRAFFIC WE HAVE THAN PUT THAT THING IN THERE.

THE COUNTY'S MONEY IS MY MONEY, THE COUNTY'S MONEY, IS ALL THEIR MONEY.

AND THAT'S A RIDICULOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY TO PUT INTO SOMETHING WE DON'T NEED.

IT WOULD HELP A LITTLE BIT, AT THE CORNER OF CROSS TIMBERS IN GARDEN RIDGE AS FAR AS TRAFFIC, BUT IT WOULD HURT A LOT BECAUSE AS IT IS RIGHT NOW, WE NEED A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT THE CORNER OF KIRKPATRICK OR BEL AIR, WHICH EVER ONE YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND GARDEN RIDGE WHEN SCHOOLS COMING AND GOING.

THINK WHAT IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE IF WE DO THAT.

I'M WILLING TO GIVE UP MY PRIVACY FOR THAT.

THIS CAME UP IN A REALLY BAD TIME BECAUSE, LOPO ROAD IS NOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION, [LAUGHTER] AND I'M PISSED MOST DAYS.

[LAUGHTER] SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH CONSTRUCTION, AND I THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IS WITH THE GROWTH WE HAVE DOWN HERE, THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES ARE OVERBOOKED, ON-DEMAND, AND UNAVAILABLE BECAUSE THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY WE HAVE ON OUR STREET RIGHT NOW, STOPPED UP THIS SEWER THAT THEY JUST INSTALLED ON OUR STREET WITH THEIR DEBRIS AND BACKED IT UP INTO MY HOUSE TWO WEEKS AGO.

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I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD CONSTRUCTION COMPANIES OUT THERE TO BUILD THIS BRIDGE.

I THINK YOU WE'RE FIGHTING AN UPHILL BATTLE.

I'LL TAKE YOUR TRAFFIC THAT WOULD GO IN THERE OVER WHAT I'VE GOT RIGHT NOW, AND I APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WILL BE MICHAEL RITTENHOUSE, FOLLOWED BY MARIA RODRIGUEZ.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MICHAEL RITTENHOUSE, I LIVE AT 3821 OAK PARK DRIVE, I'VE BEEN A FLOWER MOUND RESIDENT FOR OVER 15 YEARS.

I LOOK BACK ONTO THE GREEN BELTS BEHIND US ON KIRKPATRICK.

I'VE WATCH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE COMMUNITY GROW.

I'M ALSO AWARE OF HOW THIS INITIATED HOW IT STARTED.

I'VE SEEN THIS PROGRESS FOR A DECADE AND A HALF WHERE WE NOW HAVE A SENIOR CITIZENS HOME.

THE COMMUNITY HAS GROWN AROUND THIS AREA AND IT'S REALLY FLOURISHED.

ADDING THIS ADDITIONAL KIRKPATRICK LANE, IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO ADD BENEFIT OR VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY, I DO NOT BELIEVE.

I STRONGLY OPPOSE IT AND I HOPE YOU GUYS DO TOO. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WE GET TO HEAR FROM MARIA RODRIGUEZ, FOLLOWED BY [NOISE] JAYCEL SAYANDE

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS MARIA RODRIGUEZ.

I LIVE AT 3813 OAK PARK DRIVE AND MY HOUSE LITERALLY BACKS UP TO THAT LITTLE STRETCH OF KIRKPATRICK THAT YOU WANT TO CONNECT JUST THREE HOUSES AWAY TO WHERE THAT SUPPOSED BRIDGE IS GOING TO START.

I AM VERY OPPOSED TO IT.

MANY PEOPLE HAVE DESCRIBED THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AS SLEEPY.

IT IS SLEEPY, IT'S VERY QUIET.

IT RUNS RIGHT UP INTO THE PATHS AND THE GREEN BELT, AND I WALK MY DOG THROUGH THEIR TWO AND THREE TIMES A DAY AND IT'S WONDERFUL.

THE ONLY TIME THAT THAT GETS BAD, ACTUALLY BACKING UP TO KIRKPATRICK IS WHEN WE GET MOTORCYCLISTS WHO DECIDE THAT THIS IS A GREAT STRAIGHTAWAY TO JUST SHOOT ON THROUGH.

THAT'S THE ONLY TIME THAT IT GETS NOISY.

OCCASIONALLY, WE'LL GET CARS THAT WILL THINK THAT TWO LANER THAT'S THERE THAT THEY CAN JUST DRAG RACE UNTIL THEY GET TO THE CORNER THERE WHERE THE LIGHT IS ON THE KIRKPATRICK AND CROSS TIMBERS.

I THINK IF ANYTHING, WHAT IT'S GOING TO DO IS IT WILL INCREASE TRAFFIC TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.

I DON'T THINK THEY'RE GOING TO GET ANY BENEFIT OF GETTING THERE ANY QUICKER THAN WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.

IT'S ALSO NOT ONLY ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SAID AS FAR AS DISTURBING THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT IT'S ALSO GOING TO DO A LOT AS FAR AS AIR QUALITY, TRAFFIC, NOISE, AND ANYTHING ELSE.

IF I CAN HEAR IT WHEN IT'S JUST AN OCCASIONAL CAR, IMAGINE WHEN IT IS GOING TO BE A WHOLE BUNCH OF CARS GOING THROUGH, IT'S GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO CROSS STREETS.

WE HAVE ANIMALS ACROSS THE STREET, WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF THINGS.

SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE, IT ALSO APPEARS TO BE FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD, THE ONE PRO-VOICE THAT WE HEARD TONIGHT.

THERE WAS A LOT OF MENTIONED AS FAR AS, IT'S FREE MONEY AND IF WE DON'T SPEND IT NOW, THEN WE'RE GOING TO LOSE IT.

IT REMINDS ME A GREAT DEAL OF A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT WE HEAR TODAY WHERE THEY SAY, WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING, THEN IT'S NOT GOING TO GET FIXED. WELL, IT'S THE SAME THING.

YOU'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY, BUT WHAT'S IT GOING TO GET US? IT DOESN'T APPEAR LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING OF BENEFIT TO THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE AND COULD POTENTIALLY USE IT.

IT'S SPENDING MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NEEDED AND CLEARLY NOT DESIRED.

SO HOPEFULLY YOU WILL CONSIDER THAT AS YOU DECIDE WHAT TO DO GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP IS JAYCEL SAYANDE, FOLLOWED BY BRENDA SHARPE.

>> HI, I'M JAYCEL SAYANDE, AND I LIVE ON 916 BLUE SKY LANE.

THE KIRKPATRICK EXPANSION, IF IT HAPPENS, I'M GOING TO BE ONE OF THE PERSON USING IT.

I DO NOT WANT IT. MY FAMILY, MY HUSBAND, ME, MY DOG, IF HE CAN TALK, WE ALL OPPOSE IT, BECAUSE WE ALL USE IT.

WE USE IT TO WALK, IT HAS A GREEN SPACE, IT'S VERY SAFE RIGHT NOW.

AND THE ONLY WAY WE CAN KEEP IT SAFE IS BY REDUCING TRAFFIC.

NOT ALL ROADS ARE MEANT TO BE CONSTRUCTED.

WE CAN PRESERVE GREEN SPACE, LET'S GIVE THAT A START. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT IS BRENDA SHARPE, FOLLOWED BY KRISTY SMITH.

>> I'M BRENDA SHARPE, I LIVE AT 3600, GOLDEN ASPEN, AND I WOULD BACKUP TO THE BRIDGE.

WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS.

I KNOW SEVERAL YEARS AFTER WE HAD MOVED IN THERE, WE MET WITH SOME PEOPLE FROM GOLDEN ASPEN, MET WITH SOME PEOPLE FROM THE TOWN COUNCIL AND THEY TOLD US THEN THEY WERE GOING TO BE TAKING THE ROAD OFF, THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE WAY TOO EXPENSIVE WITH THAT GREEN BELT AREA.

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AND WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO WORRY ABOUT, AND NOW WE FIND OUT THAT IT'S BACK ON.

IT IS VERY EXPENSIVE, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S NEEDED.

WHAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS SAID THAT GREEN BELT AREA GETS USED A LOT.

OUR BACKYARD IS IN THERE, WE SEE PEOPLE GOING BACK AND FORTH THROUGH THERE ALL THE TIME.

IT WOULD BE ASHAME TO DESTROY ALL OF THAT GREEN BELT AREA AND FOR THE ANIMALS AND ALL THAT LIVE THERE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WILL BE KRISTY SMITH, FOLLOWED BY DAN STROUD.

>> YES. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL, GOOD EVENING MANAGER, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE TODAY.

KRISTY JORDAN SMITH, I'M AT 1000 LAUREL OAK DRIVE, WHICH IS THE OAK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT IS AN HONOR TO ENGAGE WITH YOU TODAY.

AND THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY HEARING FROM MY NEIGHBORS, IT REMINDS ME OF WHAT A STRONG COMMUNITY IS ABOUT.

AND THE INDIVIDUALS THAT CAME AND TALKED ABOUT THE TREMENDOUS PROJECTS AND PROGRAMS THEY'RE RUNNING.

IT IS JUST A GREAT TIME TO BE A CITIZEN HERE.

I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE KIRKPATRICK 3 EXTENSION FOR THE REASONS MENTIONED.

UP UNTIL NOW, IT MAY HAVE AT ONE TIME BEEN A GREAT IDEA, THAT WAS DECADES AGO AND THINGS HAVE CHANGED.

THE BUSINESS CASE IS NOT THERE, THE BENEFITS ARE NOT THERE THAT YOU'VE HEARD TODAY.

I ENCOURAGE US TO, AS A COMMUNITY AND AS A COUNCIL, LOOK AWAY FROM THIS EFFORT AND LOOK TOWARDS EFFORTS THAT BETTER WARRANT AND PROVIDE MORE BENEFITS TO OUR CONSTITUENTS HERE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE TIME AND FOR THE VOICE THAT IS RAPIDLY FADING. HAVE A GOOD EVENING. [LAUGHTER]

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT UP IS MR. DAN STROUD, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH THOMAS.

>> HI THERE, MY NAME IS DAN STROUD.

I LIVE AT 1402 RIVER OAKS DRIVE.

SAME AS SAME PER CELL.

FROM WHERE WE LIVE, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THROW A BASEBALL AND HIT THIS ROAD.

NOT THAT I WOULD DO THAT.

[LAUGHTER] SO I'VE SPENT 35 YEARS AS AN ADVERTISING PHOTOGRAPHER.

I HAVE TRAVELED AROUND THE WORLD.

WHAT YOU WANT TO BUILD THERE IS NOT ANYTHING THAT I WOULD WANT TO PHOTOGRAPH.

BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO MAKE AN UGLY PLACE OUT OF SOMETHING THAT'S GORGEOUS.

IF YOU WANT TO SPEND THE MONEY, THEN SPEND IT ON A PARK.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL AREA THERE, YOU CAN MAKE A GORGEOUS PARK OUT OF.

HAVE YOUR CONTRACTOR GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT HE COULD DO WITH THAT MONEY FOR OUR PARK, AND FORGET BUILDING AN UGLY FREEWAY OVER THE TOP OF IT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO SERVE ANYONE FOLKS.

IF YOU DO, I'M GOING TO PHOTOGRAPH IT.

AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LIKE MY PHOTOGRAPHS.

[LAUGHTER] THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT UP IS JOSEPH THOMAS, FOLLOWED BY GLORIA VARGO.

>> GOOD EVENING COUNCIL MEMBERS.

JUST SITTING HERE WAITING THAT IMAGERY BEHIND.

I JUST KEPT LOOKING AT THAT OVER AND OVER THE TREE.

>> SIR, IF YOU CAN STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR ME?

>> SORRY. JOSEPH THOMAS 3504 ORION COURT IN FLOWER MOUND.

SO AGAIN, SITTING HERE, THAT TREE IMAGE I KEPT LOOKING BACK AT THAT.

IT IS JUST SO BIG AND IT JUST REPRESENTS THE CITY SO WELL.

WHEN WE MOVED HERE FIRST, I MOVED FROM GEORGIA, WE CONSIDERED MOVING TO PLANO, I LOOKED IN SOUTH LAKE, I LOOKED IN COMPEL ALL OF THEM AND WITH A GOOD FAMILY BALANCED WITH THE TREES.

ESPECIALLY, THAT ONE OF THE DRIVING FACTORS TO BRING US HERE TO FLOWER MOUND ALONG WITH THE SCHOOLS, OF COURSE.

BUT HEARING ABOUT THIS PROJECT, WE LIVE IN THE FLOWER MOUND OAKS SUBDIVISION, WHICH WE'VE ALL BEEN DIRECTLY ALSO AFFECTED WITH THIS CONSTRUCTION.

OBVIOUSLY, WE SEE THE TRAFFIC, AS MOST OF THE FOLKS HAVE ALREADY MENTIONED HERE TODAY, THE SAFETY ISSUE FOR THE STUDENTS.

WE OURSELVES HAVE SEEN FOXES OUT THERE, COYOTES, I MEAN, IT'S A REALLY BEAUTIFUL GREEN BELT AREA. [INAUDIBLE] IN REGARDS TO THE FUNDS.

IT WAS DISTURBING TO HEAR THAT IF WE DON'T, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S TRUE OR NOT, BUT IF WE DON'T USE THE FUNDS, THE FUND GOES AWAY, I'M NOT SURE OF THAT FACT THERE.

BUT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS, WE DEFINITELY CAN USE, I LIKE THE IDEA.

ALL YOU ARE PUTTING THE SECURITY CAMERAS ON THE LIGHTS.

WE CAN RE-ALLOCATE SOME OF THE FUNDS, IF POSSIBLE FOR THAT, FOR MORE LIGHTS FOR TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

SORRY, FOR MORE TRAFFIC LIGHTS, SECURITY, THE CAMERA ON THE LIGHTS ITSELF, AND FIXING A LOT OF THE POTHOLES THAT WE HAVE ON THE ROAD.

THOSE WOULD BE WHERE THAT, FLOWER MOUND RESIDENTS CAN BENEFIT FROM THIS.

THANK YOU ALL.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT IS GLORIA VARGO, FOLLOWED BY CLINT WALKER.

>> HELLO. MY NAME IS GLORIA VARGO AND I LIVE AT 1312 RUSTIC TIMBERS.

I'VE LIVED HERE FOR 23 YEARS.

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WE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEXT TO IT, BUT I WANTED TO PUT IT DOWN TO FOUR THINGS.

NATURE AND WILDLIFE.

THIS COMMUNITY HAS ALWAYS PROMOTED NATURE AND WILDLIFE.

WE NEED TO CONTINUE AND I THANK YOU FOR THINKING THAT WAY.

SECOND, SAFETY.

IS IT SAFE TO PUT THAT ROAD THERE? THE NEXT ONE IS FINANCIAL.

WE'RE ALWAYS WORKING ON BUDGETS, WE'RE ALWAYS COMING UP WITH WHERE OUR DOLLARS SHOULD BE SPENT.

THE MINUTE THAT I ACTUALLY GOT TO TALK TO CHRIS AND ANOTHER COUNCIL MEMBER.

I SAID, WHY? WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO DO THIS AND GUESS WHAT? I HAVEN'T COME UP WITH ONE REASON WHY I WANT TO DO THIS AND WHY I WANT TO SPEND IT.

THAT PUTS US BACK TO LOGIC.

THE LOGIC IS NOT THERE.

NO MATTER HOW I WEIGH IT OR BALANCE IT, THE LOGIC IS NOT THERE.

WHERE COULD THE MONEY BE SPENT? SINCE I LIVE AND DRIVE THROUGH DENTON COUNTY, I CAN COME UP WITH A LOT OF PLACES THAT THERE'RE SAFE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE ALL THE WAY DOWN TO SOME ROADS THAT ARE COUNTRY CLUB ROAD, WHICH IS FM 1830.

ARGYLE HAS WONDERFUL SIGNS AND TELLS HOW THE ROAD TURNS AND WEAVES AND STUFF.

THE MINUTE IT HITS DENTON, ALL THOSE SIGNS ARE GONE.

PEOPLE HAVE DRIVEN BOTH MOTORCYCLES AND CARS AND THEY RUN IN TO THE POST BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER TURN.

WHERE I'M GOING IS, I COULD COME UP WITH 1,000 PLACES TO PUT THE MONEY IN DENTON COUNTY.

I DRIVE THOSE ROADS, BUT THIS IS NOT THE PLACE FOR IT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LISTENING.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WILL BE CLINT WALKER AND THEN CANDICE WARD.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CLINT WALKER.

I LIVE AT 1213 CHERRY BROOK WAY IN RUSTIC TIMBERS.

I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE KIRKPATRICK III EXTENSION. THANKS. HAVE A GOOD EVENING.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. CANDICE WARD, AND THEN MITCH W.

>> CANDICE WARD, 1028 LAUREL OAK DRIVE.

I MOVED HERE ABOUT SEVEN YEARS AGO AND THE BIGGEST REASON I BOUGHT MY HOUSE IS BECAUSE MY YOUNGEST IS AUTISTIC.

THAT AREA IS VERY INSULATED AND AS SHE'S GOTTEN OLDER, IT'S BEEN A LOT BETTER, BUT I HAD ONE OF THOSE CHILDREN THAT CAUSES TERMS FOR A FEW YEARS AS WELL.

I HAVE A TENDENCY OF COLLECTING WAYWARD CHILDREN, AND THAT AREA, IT WAS PERFECT FOR RAISING THEM, ESPECIALLY BEING BY THE POLICE STATION.

I'M SURE THOSE POLICE OFFICERS KNOW ME VERY WELL.

BROUGHT A COUPLE OF THEM BACK FOR CURFEW VIOLATIONS AND SUCH.

BUT I'M NEVER WORRIED ABOUT THEM BECAUSE IT WASN'T TOO MUCH TO COME FROM THAT SIDE.

THOSE POLICE OFFICERS ON A REGULAR BASIS BEFORE OR AFTER THEIR SHIFT, THEY RUN THROUGH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

I'M USED TO SEEING THEM.

THEY KNOW WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

WE ALL KNOW WHO'S SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.

FOR THOSE OF US WHO HAVE THOSE VULNERABLE POPULATIONS THAT YOU GUYS ARE SO GENEROUSLY CONSIDERING GRANTING MONEY TO.

I JUST WONDER, WHAT ABOUT OUR VULNERABLE POPULATIONS AND THE SENIOR CENTER THAT'S OVER THERE.

I DON'T WANT TO PUT IT THE WRONG WAY.

I'VE SAVED A COUPLE OF THEM THAT WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET.

MAYBE THEY NEED US A LITTLE MORE MEMORY CARE THAN SOMEONE WAS WILLING TO ADMIT.

THEY DO CROSS THE STREET AND DON'T ALWAYS KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL OF CARE IS PROVIDED THERE, BUT I CAN TELL YOU IN PRACTICE, IT WOULDN'T BE SAFE FOR A LOT OF THEM TO BE THERE.

I'VE HAD MY OWN DIFFICULTIES WALKING LAST YEAR, I WAS EVEN IN AN ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR GOING UP TO THE 7-ELEVEN BECAUSE I COULDN'T DRIVE MYSELF.

I NEVER WORRIED, I NEVER ONCE WORRIED AND I THINK IF THAT ROAD HAD BEEN THERE.

I WOULDN'T HAVE BOUGHT IT, NOT WITH AN AUTISTIC KID.

I THINK THAT THERE ARE OTHER FAMILIES THAT HAVE SIMILAR BUT COMPLETELY DIFFERENT SITUATIONS THAT I HAVE.

THAT ARE THERE FOR A REASON THAT I DON'T THINK EVERYONE IS REALLY CONSIDERING.

IT'S LIKE, I LOVE TREES, TREES ARE GREAT, BUT THE INSULATED NATURE OF OUR PARTICULAR NEIGHBORHOOD, I DON'T KNOW.

IT HELPS A LOT OF US SLEEP.

IF YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE PEOPLE THAT YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF AND TRY TO KEEP SAFE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. NEXT WILL BE MITCH WOHLGEMUTH, FOLLOWED BY DONALD WILSON AND MITCH I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT I WAS JUST GIVE IT A TRY BUT.

>> NO PROBLEM. GOOD EFFORT.

MY NAME IS MITCH WOHLGEMUTH AND I LIVE AT 3504 GOLDEN ASPEN DRIVE.

[01:55:04]

I DO BACKUP TO THE GREEN BELT THAT IS AFFECTED.

WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 26 YEARS AND SHORTLY AFTER MOVING IN, WE LEARNED ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN TO EXTEND TO CONNECT THE KIRKPATRICK ROADS.

SOMETHING TELLS ME IF A ROAD HAS BEEN ON A PLAN FOR 20 YEARS AND IT'S STILL NOT EVEN STARTED.

THERE'S GOT TO BE A REASON.

I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE IT SOME CAREFUL ANALYSIS.

IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WILL BENEFIT ANYBODY BECAUSE IT ONLY FEEDS RIGHT INTO GARDEN RIDGE.

I WAS TRYING TO PICTURE IT. ONLY PEOPLE TRAVELING WEST ON CROSS TIMBERS WOULD POSSIBLY USE KIRKPATRICK AS A QUICK CUT OFF, BUT I CAN'T SAY THAT IT WOULD SAVE ANYTIME FROM GOING STRAIGHT TO GARDEN RIDGE AND MAKING A RIGHT-HAND TURN TO HEAD SOUTH.

YOU'RE LOOKING AT AN L SHAPE.

EITHER WAY. SOMEBODY MENTIONED A TRAFFIC STUDY.

JUST MY PERSONAL TRAFFIC STUDY.

THERE'S THREE, FOUR-WAY STOPS BETWEEN CROSS TIMBERS AND FLOWER MOUND ROAD RIGHT THERE.

I THINK AT THE BUSIEST TIMES IN MY 26 YEARS I'VE MAYBE HAD BEEN THE THIRD CAR IN LINE.

MOST OF THE TIME IS JUST STOP AND GO.

TO ME, IF THERE'S NOT EVEN ONE LIGHT IN THERE, THAT KIND OF TELLS YOU THAT THERE'S NOT THAT MUCH TRAFFIC VOLUME ALREADY.

I JUST DON'T SEE A MAJOR NEED.

THIS AGAIN, SOMEBODY POINTED OUT THERE IS THIS FAR EAST SIDE OF FLOWER MOUND.

YOU CAN'T REALLY GET ANY MORE EAST.

ALL OUR GROWTH FOR THE TOWN IS TOWARDS THE WEST SIDE.

I JUST THINK THE FUNDS WOULD BE BETTER SERVED IF DIVERTED TO THAT CURRENT NEEDS AND FUTURE GROWTH AS WELL.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. NEXT WILL BE DONALD WILSON.

>> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS DONALD WILSON.

I LIVE AT 3821 OAK PARK DRIVE.

I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT HERE FOR ABOUT 18 YEARS.

LOVE WHERE I LIVE, AND MY PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE KIRKPATRICK STREET THAT WOULD BE EXPANDED UPON.

I'M STRONGLY AGAINST IT.

I LOVE MY NEIGHBORS AND I'M SO GLAD THEY'RE HERE AND PLEASE LISTEN TO US.

IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE WHY RUIN IT? THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE GREEN COMMENT CARDS?

>> WE DO NOT.

>> IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.

>> SIR, PLEASE COME TO THE PODIUM.

PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS, AND IF YOU COULD FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD.

>> SCOTT LANGLEY, 800 CARTER COURT, I OPPOSE THIS KIRKPATRICK EXTENSION.

WHEN I TOOK THE CITIZEN'S ACADEMY CLASS THAT THERESA SCOTT LEADS.

ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS I LEARNED FROM THAT CLASS IS YOU SEE WHAT THE ORG CHART LOOKS LIKE FOR THE TOWN.

AT THE TOP OF THE ORG CHART ARE THE RESIDENTS.

THE RESIDENTS HAVE COME AND THEY'VE SPOKEN, I THINK YOU'VE GOT A GOOD SAMPLE TONIGHT TO LISTEN TO.

I'D ALSO LIKE TO SAY THAT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS, YOU TAKE WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE TO HEART.

YOU DON'T LISTEN TO DENTON COUNTY COMMISSIONERS, YOU SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO LISD, YOU SHOULDN'T LISTEN TO MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES WITH THEIR LAWYERS THREATENING TO FILE LAWSUITS AGAINST YOU.

THE RESIDENTS SHOULD LEAD THIS TOWN.

ALSO I WANT TO SAY IF THERE'S SOME WAY WE CAN DO THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO CONNECT RUSTIC TIMBERS PARK WITH A TRAIL GOING DOWN.

I THINK IT'S A PIPELINE EASEMENT.

IT'S PART OF THE TRAILS MASTER PLAN.

I THINK THAT WOULD ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE EVEN FURTHER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE IN THIS AREA. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND OR STAND UP.

>> MICHELLE JACKSON, 3820 OAK PARK DRIVE.

I ALREADY SPOKE, BUT I FORGOT TO SAY THAT I GAVE THERESA SCOTT, AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, A LIST OF RESIDENTS WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE IT TONIGHT WITH THEIR PHONE NUMBERS, EMAILS, AND ADDRESSES.

I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT ON PUBLIC RECORD SO THERESA CAN GIVE IT TO YOU LATER, AND I APOLOGIZE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT I'M GOING TO TAKE A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.

IF EVERYONE COULD TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND RELAX, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.

I ALSO WANT TO REMIND YOU THAT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS TONIGHT, IT'S UNDER THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

YOUR TOWN COUNCIL WILL NOT BE VOTING ON THIS ACTION TONIGHT.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO STAY.

YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO HEAR THE DISCUSSION.

FOR THE OTHER MILLION PEOPLE WATCHING AT HOME,

[02:00:02]

YOU TOO CAN WATCH FROM HOME IF YOU'D LIKE.

[LAUGHTER] BUT AGAIN, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO STAY.

I ENCOURAGE YOU IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME IN THIS BUILDING TO NOT MAKE IT YOUR LAST, TO COME BACK, TO STAY ENGAGED IF YOU'RE CURRENTLY NOT RECEIVING OUR TOWN AGENDAS WHEN THEY ARE PUBLISHED, YOU CAN SIGN UP ONLINE FOR THAT.

WHEN IT COMES TO A VOTE IT WILL BE A REGULAR AGENDA ITEM AND IT WILL ALSO BE A PUBLIC HEARING THAT IS YOUR NOTICE THAT THE COUNCIL WILL BE TAKING ACTION ON THAT.

THE COUNCIL TONIGHT IS GOING TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH OUR TOWN MANAGER AND OUR TOWN STAFF ABOUT IT.

I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU COULD LET US HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, NOT INTERRUPT US, NOT ASK QUESTIONS, AND NOT APPLAUD OR CHEER OR ANYTHING ELSE SO THAT WE CAN CONDUCT OUR BUSINESS, AND MOVE ON TO THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEMS THAT THERE'S ALSO OTHER PEOPLE HERE THAT ARE ALSO PUBLIC HEARINGS.

I APPRECIATE EVERYONE HERE, AND WITH THAT, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON, TO ANNOUNCEMENTS STARTING WITH MY LEFT WITH MR. TAYLOR.

[F. ANNOUNCEMENTS]

>> THERE'S A LITTLE DISCUSSION EARLIER ABOUT THE INDEPENDENCE DAY FEST, I'M SURE THEY'LL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SO I WON'T STEAL ANY THUNDER, BUT MAKE SURE YOU CHECK THAT OUT.

>> CHRIS, MR. DREW?

>> YEAH, I JUST HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS OF EVENTS COMING UP THIS WEEK.

NCTC FLOWER MOUND CAMPUS HAS AN OPEN HOUSE ON THURSDAY FROM 6:00-8:00 PM, SO PRETTY COOL TO CHECK IT OUT, SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER.

THEN ON JUNE 24TH, SATURDAY, THERE'S BATCH FOR BADGES, WHICH IS SPONSORED BY FLOWER MOUND POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT SUPPORTS MIRACLE LEAGUE, SO CHECK THAT OUT TOO. THANK YOU ALL.

>> MR. ENGEL?

>> I'LL PASS FOR TONIGHT, BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE COVERED BY SOMEBODY ELSE.

>> MS. MARTIN?

>> NOT ME, [LAUGHTER] SORRY.

>> MR. SCHIESTEL?

>> YEAH, I HAVE ONE. ONE OF MY FAVORITE EVENTS OF THE YEAR IS COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.

IT'S THE PATRIOTIC CONCERT AT TRIETSCH MEMORIAL UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, STARRING THE FLOWER MOUND SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA, THE VOICES OF FLOWER MOUND, AND THE TRIETSCH CHANCEL CHOIR.

THERE ARE TWO PERFORMANCES, SATURDAY, JULY 1ST AT 7:00 PM AND SUNDAY, JULY 2 AT 2:30.

PLEASE JOIN ME IN GOING. THANK YOU.

>> A SECOND POINT I'M PRIVILEGED, I'M GOING TO MAKE TWO.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT ON SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT CONGRATULATIONS TO OUR FLOWER MOUND JAGS BASEBALL TEAM FOR WINNING THE STATE TITLE.

NOW YOU CAN APPLAUD. [APPLAUSE] WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE COACHES AND STAFF TO GET HERE TO PUBLICLY RECOGNIZE THEM FOR THIS ACCOMPLISHMENT.

BUT AS YOU KNOW IT'S SUMMERTIME, SO KIDS ARE HARD TO GET A HOLD OF.

PLUS MANY OF THOSE YOUNG MEN ARE ACTUALLY OFF TO PLAY IN COLLEGE.

THE SECOND ANNOUNCEMENT YOU HAVE HEARD OF INDEPENDENCE FEST.

I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT, AGAIN, FOR THE MILLIONS WATCHING AT HOME, THAT'S FLOWER-MOUND.COM/FESTIVAL, AND IT HAS ALL THE PARKING ROUTES.

REMEMBER, THERE IS NO ON-SITE PARKING.

I KNOW THAT SOUNDS WEIRD, THE WHOLE THING IS A BIG FESTIVAL, SO PARK AT ONE OF THE NEARBY SCHOOLS THEY'LL BE A SHUTTLE.

ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ONLINE FOR YOU AT THAT WEBSITE.

WITH THAT WE'LL BE MOVING ON TO

[G. TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT]

THE TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT LED BY OUR TOWN MANAGER, MR. JAMES CHILDERS.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU ACTUALLY STOLE A LITTLE BIT OF MY THUNDER ON A TOWN MANAGERS REPORT.

I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK TO A FEW PEOPLE BEFORE THE MEETING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS I CONVEYED IS THAT THIS REPORT IS NOT NECESSARILY MEANT TO ADVOCATE OR TO CONVINCE ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE IN PARTICULAR.

WE RECOGNIZE AND RESPECT PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE AND WE'RE NOT HERE NECESSARILY TO CHANGE THOSE, BUT WITH THE NUMEROUS EMAILS THAT YOU RECEIVE AND THE FOLKS THAT CAME AND SPOKE TODAY, WHAT WE WANTED TO PROVIDE YOU ALL THIS EVENING IS SOME CONTEXTS AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MATT HOTELLING, OUR SENIOR TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING MANAGER, COME UP AND PROVIDE A PRESENTATION.

THERE'S ABOUT 25 PLUS YEARS OF HISTORY ASSOCIATED WITH THIS.

WE WANT TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU, AND WE'RE SEEKING TODAY IS JUST ANY DIRECTION THAT YOU HAVE FOR US MOVING FORWARD OF WHAT YOU WANT TO GO AND DO.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID MAYOR, IS THAT THERE'S NO ACTION TODAY, THERE'S NO ACTION BEFORE YOU, THERE'S JUST NOTHING TO ACT ON.

FOR THOSE THAT I HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH, YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO APPROVE ULTIMATELY ANYTHING THAT'S DONE WITH THIS THING.

IT'S NOT A DEAL WHERE STAFF IS JUST GOING TO APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD AND EXECUTE SOMETHING, YOU GUYS HAVE TO APPROVE IT.

IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY STAY APPRISED OF WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA, AND THEY CAN SEE WHAT'S COMING FORWARD BECAUSE IT WILL BE DONE IN A PUBLIC SETTING.

HOPEFULLY I GET SOME LEVEL OF RELIEF TO PEOPLE WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT HOW THIS PROJECT PROGRESSES.

BUT REALLY AT THIS POINT WE WANTED TO GIVE MATT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND, SOME ADDITIONAL CONTEXTS WITH IT, AND ANY TECHNICAL QUESTIONS YOU HAVE WITH HIM AND THE REST OF THE STAFF HERE THIS EVENING.

WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MATT.

>> MR. HOTELLING, AND JAMES IF WE COULD JUST MAKE SURE, AGAIN, IF WE COULD MAKE THESE SLIDES AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC, EITHER ON A DEDICATED WEBPAGE OR AT SOMEHOW JUST SO EVERYBODY HAS AN OPPORTUNITY,

[02:05:04]

SO THEY'RE NOT TAKING SCREENSHOTS LITERALLY. WE'LL PROVIDE THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. YES, SIR.

>> MR. HOTELLING?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT KIRKPATRICK III.

THAT'S NOT A PICTURE OF IT ON THE SCREEN, JUST 1171.

WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IT FOR A LITTLE BIT, I THINK EVERYBODY HERE KNOWS WHERE THE LOCATION IS.

TALK ABOUT THE SCOPE A LITTLE BIT, SOME OF THE HISTORY ABOUT IT, SOME OF THAT REGIONAL CONNECTION, SOME OF THOSE BENEFITS, THEN WRAP IT UP WITH A PROJECT TIMELINE AND FUNDING.

AS EVERYONE SAID, YOU CAN SEE THE LITTLE RED SQUARE, IT'S ON THE VERY EASTERN SIDE OF TOWN BETWEEN GARDEN RIDGE BOULEVARD AND CROSS TIMBERS.

THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT IS GOING TO CONSTRUCT THAT MISSING SEGMENT OF KIRKPATRICK LANE BETWEEN SPANISH OAK DRIVE AND BLUE SKY LANE.

BUT THAT'S NOT IT, IT ALSO PROVIDES A TRAIL CONNECTION, AND THERE'S A WATERLINE CONNECTION IN THERE AS WELL.

GOING BACK TO 1985, THAT'S THE FURTHEST BACK THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE ON OUR ARCHIVES AS FAR AS THOROUGHFARE PLANS, YOU CAN SEE WHAT IT LOOK LIKE, THERE ON THE LEFT, THAT'S THE ACTUAL WHOLE PLAN.

THEN I SCREENSHOTTED CLOSER JUST SO YOU CAN SEE THE CLOSER UP PIECE RIGHT HERE WHERE KIRKPATRICK IS, YOU'LL NOTICE IS THE SOLID BLACK LINE.

YOU'LL NOTICE BACK IN 1985, THE FOLKS THAT WE'RE PLANNING IT THROUGH HERE THEY WERE LOOKING AT IT AS A MAJOR ROADWAY, AS A SIX-LANE DIVIDED ROAD.

THAT'S WHAT IT WAS BACK IN 1985.

WHEN YOU MOVE FORWARD TO 2000, YOU LOOK AT IT, IT'S ON HERE.

THIS IS THE FIRST TIME WHERE YOU SEE THAT IT CHANGED FROM THAT SIX-LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY TO THE FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY THAT YOU SEE TODAY.

BUT IN THIS CASE, THEY SHOW THE WHOLE THING FROM GARDEN RIDGE ALL THE WAY AS IT GOES NORTH AS A FOUR-LANE DIVIDED ROADWAY.

THAT WAS IN 2000.

IN 2003 IS WHERE IT CHANGES TO WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IT TODAY.

SINCE 2003, IT STAYED ON.

WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS THOROUGHFARE PLAN CHANGES, HOWEVER, IT STAYED EXACTLY WHERE YOU SEE IT HERE, WHERE THE PIECE SOUTH OF 1171, OVER TO GARDEN RIDGE WITH AN URBAN MINOR ARTERIAL WHICH IS A FOUR-LINE DIVIDED ROADWAY.

THIS IS WHERE IT CHANGED KIRKPATRICK TO THE NORTH TO THE URBAN COLLECTOR OR THE TWO LANE CROSS-SECTION.

BUT IT IS A BIG BURIED CONNECTION, THERE IS A REGIONAL CONNECTION TO IT.

THIS IS THE OVERALL LEWISVILLE THOROUGHFARE PLAN, AND WHEN YOU ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE BELLAIRE, THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE.

YOU CAN SEE THEY EVEN SHOW IT ON THE LEWISVILLE PLAN WHERE IT CONNECTS UP TO 1171.

IT HAS THAT PIECE OF THE REGIONAL PLAN, AND THEN THIS HERE I JUST SCREENSHOTTED A PIECE OF IT.

I DIDN'T PRINT OUT OR SCREENSHOT THE WHOLE DENTON COUNTY PLAN, BUT THIS IS THE DENTON COUNTY ZOOMED IN ON THE KIRKPATRICK BELLAIRE, AND YOU SEE THAT THEY HAVE IT AS A CONNECTION.

GETTING INTO SOME OF THE BENEFITS OF THE KIRKPATRICK III, IT DOES ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE ALL THE TIMBER VALLEY NEIGHBORHOOD CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC YOU HEARD TONIGHT LIKE LOPO DOES GET A LOT OF CUT-THROUGH TRAFFIC.

BUT THIS WOULD KEEP THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON KIRKPATRICK INSTEAD OF INSIDE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT WILL IMPROVE SOME OF THE NORTH-SOUTH TRAFFIC FLOW THROUGH TOWN.

FOR INSTANCE, ONE OF MY OTHER COMMISSIONERS ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION, HE LIVES WE'LL JUST SAY NORTH OF 1171 BETWEEN MORRIS AND KIRKPATRICK.

HE GOES SOUTH IN THE MORNINGS AND OCCASIONALLY HIS NAVIGATIONAL WILL TAKE HIM TO GARDEN RIDGE, BECAUSE IT SAYS THAT'S FASTER OR IT WILL TAKE HIM OVER TO MORRIS AND SAYS THAT'S FASTER.

THIS WOULD JUST BE THAT CONNECTION PIECE INSTEAD OF HAVE TO MAKE THAT ZIGZAG KIRKPATRICK TO CROSS TIMBERS TO GARDEN RIDGE.

NOW EAST-WEST TRAFFIC FLOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S REALLY MORE FAR AS EAST-WEST.

IT IS MORE REGIONALLY, BECAUSE IT DOES TAKE YOU OVER TO BUSINESS 121.

AS PART OF THE FLOWER MOUND PIECE OF IT, IT IS A PRETTY SMALL PIECE OF THAT PART OF IT.

IT WOULD IMPROVE EMERGENCY RESPONSE ON THE EAST SIDE OF TOWN FOR ANYONE COMING OUT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY NEED TO GO SOUTH THEY COULD HIT THIS CONNECTION AND GET SOUTH MUCH QUICKER THAN LOOPING AROUND.

NOW, GRANTED, IT'S STILL MUCH LONGER TO GO THE OTHER WAY ROUND, BUT IT WOULD GET THEM THERE FASTER.

ONE OF THE THINGS WHEN THE FLOWER MOUND OAKS SUBDIVISION CAME IN, THERE IS AN EMERGENCY EXIT AT THE SOUTH END OF ORION COURT.

YOU GO TO THE STREET VIEW OR IF YOU GO OUT AND VISIT, YOU'LL SEE THAT LITTLE PIECE OF ROADWAY THAT STARTS JUTTING OUT TO THE SOUTH, WELL, IT'S ALWAYS MEANT AS AN EMERGENCY EXITS.

IT WAS PUT IN FOR WHENEVER THIS CONNECTION WAS MADE, THAT EMERGENCY EXIT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD BE MADE.

IT DOES PROVIDE BETTER ACCESS TO THE FLOWER MOUND TRAIL SYSTEM.

THERE'S A PIECE OF TRAIL THAT AS MENTIONED EARLIER, THAT'S ON THIS PIECE OF KIRKPATRICK, SO IT WOULD MAKE THOSE TRAIL CONNECTIONS.

I HAVE IT HERE AS POTENTIAL TO REDUCE THE QUEUING AT VICKERY.

[02:10:03]

I KNOW THAT ALL THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT GOES TO THIS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS EAST OF GARDEN RIDGE.

BY GIVING THEM THAT THIRD POINT OF ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD TAKE PARENTS VERY LONG TO FIGURE OUT IF I DRIVE THE LOOP AROUND TO GET INTO THAT RIGHT TURN LANE TO PULL INTO SCHOOL, THAT THEY CAN PROBABLY GET THROUGH THE SCHOOL AND REDUCE THAT QUEUE.

THAT'S WHY I SAID IT'S POTENTIAL BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, NO ONE FROM THE WESTSIDE OF GARDEN RIDGE GOES THERE, BUT I THINK PEOPLE WOULD FIGURE IT OUT PRETTY QUICK.

THEN, AGAIN, THERE'S NO DEBT OR GENERAL FUND MONEY TO DESIGN OR BUILD IT.

AT THAT POINT, I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO, BRYAN.

HE CAN TALK ABOUT THE LAST COUPLE OF SLIDES.

>> HELLO. GOOD EVENING. I JUST WANT TO QUICKLY GO OVER THE PROJECT TIMELINE, WHERE WE'VE BEEN A LITTLE BIT, AND WHERE WE'RE GOING BASED ON FUNDING AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THE COUNTY.

IN 2008, THERE WAS A TRIP 08 BOND ELECTION, AND THAT WAS THE TRANSPORTATION ROAD IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM PROVIDED MONEY FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.

IN 2019, WHEN WE WERE PREPARING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, TO GET TO THE POINT ON WHERE WE ARE NOW, COUNCIL APPROVED IN A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY IN THE AMOUNT OF 3.4 MILLION DOLLARS.

IN 2022, THIS LAST NOVEMBER, THERE WAS ANOTHER DENTON COUNTY BOND ELECTION, IT WAS TRIP 22, AND THAT WAS THE COUNTY ALLOCATING AN ADDITIONAL 5.2 MILLION DOLLARS FOR THIS SPECIFIC PROJECT.

THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. AT THIS POINT MOVING FORWARD, AS THE PROJECT HAS MOVED DOWN THE CIP, IT WAS IN THE OUT-YEARS AND IT STAYED IN THE OUT-YEARS AS THERE WAS OTHER PRIORITY PROJECTS, AND NOW THIS PROJECT JUST MOVING FORWARD.

WE HAVE FUNDING, IT SHOWS UP THIS YEAR TO GO ON THE BUDGET PROCESS.

IF THE DIRECTION WAS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, IT WOULD SHOW UP ON THE BUDGET PROCESS FOR YOU GUYS TO APPROVE.

WE WOULD ALSO HAVE TO DO ANOTHER ICA WITH DENTON COUNTY TO APPROVE THE ADDITIONAL 5.2 MILLION DOLLARS.

THEN AFTER THAT, COMES FORWARD AGAIN TO COUNCIL WHO WOULD DO A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AGREEMENT FOR DESIGN.

WE GET THE DESIGN COMPLETED, AND THEN, AGAIN, IT WOULD COME TO COUNCIL FOR CONSTRUCTION AGREEMENT.

DEPENDING ON THE FEEDBACK FROM YOU GUYS, YOU WOULD SEE THIS FOUR MORE TIMES BEFORE ANY CONSTRUCTION WOULD START.

THEN AS FAR AS FUNDING GOES, I MENTIONED THIS, DENTON COUNTY BOND ELECTIONS, THAT'S 8.7 MILLION DOLLARS TOWARD THIS PROJECT.

THAT'S SPECIFIC TO THIS PROJECT THAT WAS VOTED ON ALLOCATED FOR THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S ALSO IMPACT FEES, THE TOWN COLLECTS IMPACT FEES TO BE UTILIZED FOR PROJECTS WITHIN TOWN THAT ARE BASED ON CAPACITY.

OVER THE PAST HISTORY, THE TOWN HAS COLLECTED MONEY FOR THIS PROJECT.

WE ARE ABLE TO USE IT ONLY ON PROJECTS THAT ARE CAPACITY DRIVEN, NOT ON MAINTENANCE; IT'S A STATE LAW, HAS TO BE USED ON CAPACITY AND SO THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR THIS PROJECT.

THERE'S NOT MUCH OTHER USE WE COULD UTILIZE THOSE FUNDS ON OTHER THAN CAPACITY-RELATED PROJECTS WITHIN THE EASTSIDE OF TOWN.

IT'S A LIMITED BUCKET, LIMITED AREA WE CAN USE THEM.

THEN AGAIN, AS MATT MENTIONED EARLIER, THERE'S NO GENERAL FUND OR DEBT.

THAT'S THE BASIS THE FUNDING, A LITTLE BIT OF A PROJECT TIMELINE, AND MATT AND I ARE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE RELATED TO THE PROJECT.

>> THANKS GUYS. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF AT THIS POINT?

>> I DO HAVE A COUPLE.

MATT, I'D LIKE TO START WITH YOU ON SLIDE NUMBER 10.

>> THANK YOU FOR NUMBERING YOUR SLIDES.

>> IT LOOKS LIKE NORTH OF 1171 ON THE DENTON COUNTY THOROUGHFARE PLAN, THEY STILL HAVE KIRKPATRICK AS A SIX-LANE MAJOR ARTERIAL, AM I READING THAT RIGHT? IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO READ THAT MAP, BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A FOUR-LANE.

ACTUALLY, IT'S NOT RURAL, I THINK WHERE THEY DO IS WHERE THEY HAVE DOUBLED THE LINES.

IT'S NOT VERY CLEAR HOW THEIR MAP WAS WRITTEN.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE IT MORE CLEAR.

>> OKAY. BECAUSE MY CONCERN WAS THAT DENTON COUNTY IS STILL SHOWN AS A SIX-LANE AND IT'S NOW A FOUR-LANE NORTH OF 1171 DENTON.

WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE LOOKING AT THE LATEST INFORMATION IN THEIR ANALYSIS.

>> BRYAN, CAN I PIGGYBACK ON THAT QUESTION?

>> YEAH.

>> THE EARLIER, I THINK IT WAS THE 2000 THOROUGHFARE PLAN, DID IT HAVE KIRKPATRICK GOING ALL THE WAY TO 407? YOU HAVE A CONNECTION HERE TO 407 IN THIS MAP, RIGHT?

>> BUT I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SEEING HERE, IT STOPS HERE, AND THIS DASHED LINE IS JUST THE TOWN LIMITS.

>> OKAY. IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 407?

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BECAUSE THAT DEFINITELY DIDN'T HAPPEN?

>> I DON'T BELIEVE SO.

>> OKAY.

>> BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE MAP, THE WHOLE OUTLINE IS THAT DASHED LINE, AND WHEN YOU LOOK HERE, YOU CAN SEE THAT SOLID LINE STOPS THERE AT VALLEY RIDGE.

>> I WAS JUST POINTING OUT IT'S ANOTHER BROKEN CONNECTION, AND AGAIN, BRINGS IN THE QUESTION THE VALUE OF THIS ROAD AND ITS ENTIRETY IF IT DOESN'T GET YOU ALL THE WAY TO THE MAJOR ROAD.

>> OKAY.

>> COULD YOU GO UP TO SLIDE 11, WE HAVE ORION COURT.

I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EMERGENCY EXIT.

WOULD YOU WOULD WANT PULLING UP A GOOGLE MAP SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? I HAVE A HARD TIME VISUALIZING THAT.

THEN WHILE YOU'RE PULLING THAT UP, THE OTHER QUESTION, BRYAN, I GUESS IT'S FOR YOU.

IF WE DON'T USE THESE IMPACT FEES ON THIS PROGRAM, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT MONEY? UNTIL WE CAN GET TO THAT HERE IN A MINUTE.

>> SO THE IMPACT FEES THAT HAVE BEEN COLLECTED IN ROADWAY AREA A CAN ONLY BE USED ON PROJECTS THAT ARE CAPACITY-RELATED ON ROADWAY AREA A.

YOU THINK IT OF ADDITIONAL LANES, SO WIDENING PROJECTS, TURN LANES, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, THAT SORT OF THING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE MASTER PLAN, THERE ARE LIMITED NUMBER OF PROJECTS REMAINING IN THE EASTSIDE OF TOWN.

THE BUCKET OF MONEY THAT WE HAVE, THERE'S A LIMITED NUMBER OF PROJECTS TO BE UTILIZED THOUGH.

>> I JUST DIDN'T KNOW IF WE HAD SPECIFIC PROJECTS IDENTIFIED THAT WE COULD USE THAT MONEY FOR.

IF WE DON'T TAP INTO THE FULL AMOUNT OF MONEY COLLECTED FROM THOSE IMPACT FEES, WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT BALANCE AFTER WE'VE COMPLETED THOSE PROJECTS OR YOU JUST HOLD ONTO IT FOR FUTURE USE?

>> YEAH, YOU WOULD HOLD ONTO IT FOR FUTURE USE.

MAYBE IT'LL UTILIZE IT ON OTHER CAPACITY PROJECTS.

IF THERE IS SOME AMOUNT LEFTOVER, DEPENDING ON HOW MUCH THAT AMOUNT IS AND ALL OF YOUR CAPACITY-RELATED PROJECTS ON THE MASTER PLANNER COMPLETED, THAT MIGHT BE A LEGAL QUESTION OR SOMETHING ELSE.

BUT THE GOAL IS TO UTILIZE THE AMOUNT OF DOLLARS COLLECTED FOR THAT SPECIFIC ROADWAY ON THAT ROADWAY.

THAT'S THE GOAL WE UTILIZE FOR PLANNING.

>> OKAY.

>> I HAVE A FOLLOW-UP QUESTION ON THAT.

I THINK WE POSED THIS QUESTION A FEW MEETINGS AGO, TIFFANY.

DO YOU HAVE AN UPDATE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD USE ROADWAY IMPACT FEES ON ADAPTIVE SIGNAL TECHNOLOGY?

>> VERY SMALL AMOUNT OF IT.

WHAT'S ATTRIBUTABLE TO CAPACITY BY ADAPTIVE, AND MATT CAN WAY IN ON THIS ALSO, ADAPTIVE IS TO HELP FLOW, BUT NOT TO INCREASE CAPACITY.

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT MORE DIFFERENTLY THAN ME MATT. [OVERLAPPING]

>> ISN'T FLOW CAPACITY OVER TIME? THERE'S A CAPACITY ELEMENT.

>> THE ACTUAL CAPACITY OF THE ROADWAY IS LOCKED BY THE NUMBER OF LANES, BUT YOU'RE GOING TO USE THE SYSTEM MORE EFFICIENTLY.

>> SO MORE CARS CAN GET THROUGH.

>> SO VERY SMALL PERCENTAGE, AND GIVEN THE AMOUNT OF IMPACT FEES THAT WE HAVE IN THE ADAPTIVE THAT WE'RE SPENDING MONEY ON IT, WOULD BE A VERY SMALL AMOUNT, SO IT WOULD JUST PUT A SMALL DENT IN THAT IMPACT FEE BUCKET.

>> ARE THERE OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE PROPOSED, OR ARE WE LOOKING AT AROUND THE SIP FOR ADDITIONAL LANES, TURN LANES, DIESEL LANES IN SURFACE AREA A?

>> LAKESIDE IS ONE OF THEM, AND THERE ARE SOME SEVERAL SMALLER TURN LANES, AND SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS.

BUT FOR THE MOST SIDE, LAKESIDE IS ONE.

>> WE REALLY HAVE DONE IT WHERE WE GENERALLY WOULD USE THAT AS NEW ROADWAY PROJECTS, WHERE YOU'RE ADDING LANES, BUILDING NEW LANES, AND THEN ANYWHERE WHERE YOU ARE ADDING TURN LANES.

TURN LANES FALL INTO THAT WHERE THEY INCREASE CAPACITY, BUT NOT TRULY.

BUT WE HAVE DONE MOST OF THOSE PROJECTS ON THE EAST SIDE.

THIS REALLY IS OUR LAST PROJECT TO HELP TWEAK TRAFFIC AND HELP IT ON THAT EAST SIDE.

SO WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON THE PROJECTS AND THE IMPACT FEE.

THERE IS A RISK THAT WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

>> AND HOW MUCH IS IT, EXACTLY?

>> I'D SAY CURRENTLY THERE'S PROBABLY ABOUT UNALLOCATED FUNDS.

THERE ARE SOME FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED TOWARD SPECIFIC PROJECTS, BUT IF THIS PROJECT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, OR YOU GUYS CHOOSE TO MAKE SOMETHING ELSE, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ABOUT FIVE AND A HALF MILLION.

[INAUDIBLE] [OVERLAPPING].

TOTAL REMAINING.

>> IF WE'RE JUST CONSIDERING, WE'RE NOT DOING ANY VOTING TONIGHT, THIS IS GOING TO COME UP AGAIN IN THE FUTURE, WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TOWN COULD DO WITH THE MONEY IF WE WERE TO APPROACH THE COUNTY AND SAY, HEY, REALIZE THE VOTERS VOTED FOR THIS, REALIZE IT'S BEEN ON THE PLAN, PROBABLY NOT A GOOD IDEA RIGHT NOW, BUT WE COULD USE THE MONEY FOR X.

WE KNOW WE CAN'T USE IT FOR PARKS.

I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE SOME IDEAS, BUT IF THAT COULD BE PROVIDED.

>> SO YOU'RE ASKING COUNTY MONEY NOW?

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WHAT I UNDERSTAND OR KNOW ABOUT THE COUNTY MONEY IF WE WERE TO GO BACK TO THE COUNTY AND TELL THEM THAT WE DON'T WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT.

>> LET'S SAY THIS MOVES DOWN THE ROAD AND COMES TO A VOTE, AND IT DOESN'T GO THROUGH, DO WE LOSE THE MONEY 100%, CAN WE REALLOCATE THAT MONEY? WHERE ARE WE AT AS FAR AS THIS FUND BEING ALLOCATED?

>> WHAT I CAN TELL YOU IS THAT THE COUNTY BOND MONEY THAT CAME TO US IS ALSO BEING USED IN A NUMBER OF OTHER PROJECTS IN DENTON COUNTY.

THE COUNTY WENT THROUGH AN EXHAUSTIVE PROCESS TO CREATE THAT LIST.

A LOT OF DIFFERENT CITIES ARE USING THAT FOR PROJECTS IN THE COUNTY, AND THAT MONEY COMES FROM THAT SAME BUCKET.

IF WE DO NOT WANT TO DO KIRKPATRICK, THEIR FIRST PRIORITY IS TO DO THE PROJECTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST.

WE WOULD RUN THE RISK IF SOME OF THOSE FUNDS BEING USED FOR OTHER PROJECTS THAT MAY BE OVERRUN OR THINGS THAT HAPPEN IN THE COUNTY.

I'M NOT SURE THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO DESIGNATING THAT FOR OTHER PROJECTS IMMEDIATELY.

MY GUESS WOULD BE THAT IF WE WENT FORWARD, WE WOULD TELL THEM WE DON'T WANT TO DO KIRKPATRICK, AND THEN STAFF WOULD START DOING THE LEGWORK LOOKING AT OTHER PROJECTS WHERE WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THAT FUNDING, OR OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE HADN'T IDENTIFIED AS MAYBE COUNTY-INTERESTED.

WE DO HAVE PROJECTS OUT WEST THAT THE COUNTY IS HELPING US WITH THROUGH THAT SAME BOND PROGRAM.

IF WE WERE TO GO OVER ON THOSE PROJECTS, THEY MIGHT INCREASE THEIR CONTRIBUTION OR HELP US ON THOSE TYPE OF PROJECTS.

WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LARGE COUNTY PROJECTS THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED.

NORMALLY THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PROJECTS THAT ARE INCREASING CAPACITY OR HELPING, NOT SMALL PROJECTS, SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THEM FOR MAINTENANCE, OR FOR ANY OF THE SMALL ROADS THAT WE HAVE, THAT'S OUR MONEY TO BE SPENT ON THOSE.

BUT IT WOULD BE A PROCESS OF US FIRST TIME, AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT, AND THEN, STAFF AND I MOVING FORWARD TO START PRIORITIZING DENTON COUNTY ON OTHER PROJECTS THAT THEY MIGHT WANT TO ADD TO THAT LIST.

THAT'S WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD ENTERTAIN US IMMEDIATELY ON THOSE PROJECTS.

TO WAIT OUT, WE WOULD PROBABLY MISS BUDGET ON THIS PROJECT, AND NOT BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD IF WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR FROM THE COUNTY, FOR SURE, THAT WE CAN ALLOCATE THOSE OTHER FUNDS.

>> TIFFANY, I GOT A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THOUGH WE'VE GOT A BUCKET OF MONEY IN THE IMPACT FEE, LAKESIDE WAS IN 2022 AS WELL.

>> CORRECT.

>> I'M ASSUMING THAT A LOT OF OUR PORTION OF THE LAKESIDE MONEY IS BEING FUNDED WITH THE IMPACT FEES ALREADY TO WHAT WAS PLANNED?

>> CORRECT. I'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON IT.

IN ORDER TO USE IMPACT FEES, YOU DO AN IMPACT FEE STUDY IN AN IMPACT UPDATE.

WE DO THAT EVERY FIVE YEARS BY STATE LAW.

YOU HAVE TO SHOW YOUR PROJECTS THAT YOU WANT TO COLLECT IMPACT FEES ON.

THEN WE MOVE FORWARD AND WE ALLOCATE THE DOLLARS THAT CAN BE USED IN THE PROJECTS.

THEN THAT'S WHAT GOES FORWARD AND YOU GUYS VOTE ON WHAT THOSE IMPACT FEES ARE.

HOW THOSE ARE PAID IS DEVELOPERS ARE HELPING TO PAY FOR THOSE CAPACITY PROJECTS.

WHEN YOU SPEND THE MONEY, YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT ON THE PROJECTS ON THE LIST.

YOU TOLD THOSE DEVELOPERS WHAT YOU WERE GOING TO USE THIS FOR.

YOU SHOWED THAT THEY WERE OF CAPACITY, SO YOU HAVE TO SPEND IT ON THOSE PROJECTS.

YOU CAN'T JUST SPEND IT ON OTHER PROJECTS.

LIKE I SAID, ON THE SEASIDE, WE REALLY ARE BUILT OUT.

BRIAN CAN CONFIRM, BUT I'M SURE THAT WE ARE USING THE FULL AMOUNT THAT IS ALLOCABLE TO LAKESIDE PARKWAY PROJECT AS CAPACITY.

SO WHEN WE DID THE LAST IMPACT FEE UPDATE, WE SHOWED HOW MUCH CAPACITY IS BEING ADDED WITH THE PROJECT, AND THE FUNDING THAT CAN GO ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AND I'M SURE THAT WE ARE SPENDING UP TO OUR MAX LIMIT ON THAT PROJECT.

>> BRIAN? [OVERLAPPING]

>> I DIDN'T MEAN IT. I JUST WANTED TO ADD TO THAT [INAUDIBLE] STATE LAW REQUIRES THAT IMPACT FEES, ROADWAY IMPACT FEES, FOR EXAMPLE, BE REFUNDED, AND THE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTY UPON WHICH YOU'VE COLLECTED THE FUNDS HAVE STANDING TO SUE FOR THAT REFUND IF THE FUNDS ARE NOT SPENT WITHIN 10 YEARS.

THERE IS NO REAPPROPRIATION OF THE FUNDS, YOU CANNOT USE IT.

IMPACT FEES ARE TO ACCOUNT FOR THE IMPACT ON OUR STREETS THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT CAUSES, SO YOU CAN'T TAKE THE FUNDS AND SPEND IT ON A COMPLETELY UNRELATED PROJECT THAT DOESN'T BENEFIT THE DEVELOPER THAT PAID THOSE FEES.

>> I'D ALSO ADD TO THAT THAT SOME OF THE IMPACT FEES THAT ARE COLLECTED IN THIS BUCKET WERE WITH OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD OR NOT MOVED FORWARD, SO WE ALWAYS RUN THE RISK OF IF WE DO NOT SPEND THEM ON THE PROJECTS THAT WE CLAIMED, WE COULD END UP AT RISK.

>> THE NEXT TIME WE TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT, ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK I'D LIKE TO SEE IS OUR IMPACT FEE BANK, IF YOU WILL, AND WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON ALLOCATING OUT FOR AREA A,

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FOR ROAD IMPACT FEES, WITH LAKESIDE, AND SEE BASICALLY WHAT THAT DRAWS US DOWN TO, AND THEN, IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS LIST, OR ARE WE GOING TO LOSE IT AND HAVE TO REFUND THOSE FEES BACK TO THE DEVELOPERS AS BRIAN MENTIONED.

>> I THINK WE ONLY HAVE TWO PROJECTS.

WE'RE THERE RIGHT NOW.

>> WE HAVE TWO LARGER PROJECTS.

THERE ARE SOME SIGNAL PROJECTS, SOME HANDFUL OF INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS, I BELIEVE.

BUT WE COULD DEFINITELY GET YOU THE LIST AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROCESS.

>> I THINK THAT'D BE HELPFUL FOR EVERYBODY.

>> AND THE DATES WHEN THEY WERE PLANNED, SO WE CAN LOOK AT THE BUDGET THAT WAS PROJECTED, VERSUS WHAT IT ACTUALLY MIGHT COST TODAY REGARDING MANY INCREASES THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED, AND EVEN IN A SHORT WINDOW, SO THAT MIGHT ACTUALLY TAKE US CLOSER TO USING MORE OF IT. THAT'LL BE GOOD TO KNOW.

>> BRIAN WE'RE OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF A TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT.

ARE WE OKAY TO CONTINUE?

>> I THINK WE ARE BECAUSE IT'S STILL LISTED AS THE PROJECT BY TOPIC.

>> OKAY. ANY OTHER INPUT FROM COUNCIL?

>> TIFFANY, HOW DO WE GET THIS OFF A CIP SO WE DON'T HAVE TO KEEP HAVING THIS CONVERSATION? [LAUGHTER]

>> IF YOU DIRECTED US, WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD AS A THOROUGH PLAN AMENDMENT, AND MATT CAN GO THROUGH THE PROCESS ON THAT.

>> IS THE THOROUGH PLAN PART OF THE MASTER PLAN? SO THAT WOULD BE A MASTER PLAN AMENDMENT? I'M JUST PUTTING THAT OUT THERE.

>> YEAH. SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT MASTER PLAN AMENDMENTS, BUT THEN THEY DO WANT IT, BUT NOW THEY DON'T WANT IT.

>> I BROUGHT IT UP. [OVERLAPPING]

>> I FOLLOW THE LINE OF REASONING OF SOME INPUT WE'VE HAD FROM SOME TWO RESIDENTS.

[OVERLAPPING] ONE IN EMAIL, ONE SPOKE.

>> IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE NOW, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AND DO WHAT MAKES SENSE TO THAT.

>> MATT BEFORE YOU ANSWER THAT, I'M JUST GOING TO COMMENT.

ONE OF THE RESIDENTS SAID THAT THERE'S A TRANSPORTATION MODEL. THAT'S THE WORD I WAS LOOKING FOR.

THE 2019 TRANSPORTATION MODEL THAT SHOWS THIS ROAD IN EXISTENCE, HAS IT IN THE SECOND LOWEST CATEGORY, AS 2,000-5,000 CARS PER DAY.

I WAS WATCHING THAT MEETING, AND THE SLIDE THAT YOU HAD BEFORE THAT IN YOUR PRESENTATION HAD THE SAME ROAD WITHOUT THE CONNECTION.

KIRKPATRICK, ALREADY IN THE 2,000-5,000 TRAFFIC CAPACITY, MEANING THAT MOST OF THESE CARS ARE JUST PEOPLE PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF AT THE SCHOOL, THEY'RE ALREADY THERE.

>> I SPOKE WITH OUR CONSULTANT TO HAZARD TRANSPORTATION MODEL, AND YES, IT'S PROBABLY WHAT HE TOLD ME, IT'S AROUND LESS THAN 5,000, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.

WHERE IT FALLS, IS THE MODEL 100% ACCURATE, IS IT NOT? BECAUSE TODAY, THE LAST TURNING MOVEMENT LOOKED AT THERE'S ABOUT 1,800 GOING NORTHBOUND ALREADY AT KIRKPATRICK AND 1171.

YOU ALREADY ALMOST HAVE 2,000 VEHICLES ON THE ROADWAY.

NOW, HOW THEY REALLOCATE THEMSELVES IF THE ROADWAY GOES THROUGH, WHO KNOWS?

>> I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS STRETCHING AND TRYING TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ACCESS TO THE FIVE HOMES ON ORION COURT.

BUT I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE CALLS FOR SERVICE ARE THERE.

I'M NOT SURE IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BROUGHT THAT UP AND SAID, HEY, WE REALLY NEED ACCESS TO THIS CUL-DE-SAC OR WHAT, BUT THE ONE THING I DID FIND ODD AND THE BEST BRIEF WAS THAT POINT.

>> THAT KIND OF PIGGYBACKS ON WHY I WAS WANTING TO LOOK AT THIS BECAUSE IN ONE OF THE SLIDES, IT DIDN'T SAY EMERGENCY ACCESS, I GUESS POLICE AND FIRE.

I JUST WANTED TO FULLY UNDERSTAND THE BIG PICTURE AND WHAT THAT ACTUALLY ENTAILS BECAUSE I CERTAINLY DON'T WANT TO SACRIFICE THE SAFETY EITHER.

>> I THINK WHAT IT DOES HERE IS IF THERE IS SOMETHING HAPPENS HERE AT BLUE-SKY AND HORIZON AND THAT ROW GETS BLOCKED, ALL THESE HOMES ARE BLOCKED.

THERE IS NO EMERGENCY SERVICES WHATSOEVER THAT CAN GET TO THEM.

THAT'S WHY WHEN THIS CAME THROUGH, IT WAS MORE LIKELY A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT WANTED THIS CONNECTION.

THEN THEY COULD ACCESS THIS BACK HALF OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.

>> I HAVE A QUESTION. IS THAT AREA DIRECTLY BEHIND THOSE HOUSES THAT CONNECTS TO THAT COURT, IS THAT IN THE FLOODPLAIN AND DOES THAT REQUIRE THE BRIDGE?

>> NO, THE FLOODPLAIN IS MAINLY YOU CAN SEE THIS CREEK OR THE TIMBER CREEK COMING THROUGH RIGHT HERE.

THE FLOODPLAIN GENERALLY FOLLOWS THIS.

>> WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE TO CONSTRUCT JUST A VERY SMALL PORTION OF KIRKPATRICK TO CONNECT ORION COURT AND TAKE CARE OF THAT PROBLEM? WITHOUT BUILDING A BRIDGE, WITHOUT DISTURBING MUCH WILDLIFE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S BASICALLY A GREEN SPACE WITH VERY FEW TREES.

>> I MEAN, IT'S POSSIBLE.

ALMOST SOUNDS LIKE A WORKSTATION.

>> NO, IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL

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COULD EXPLORE SO THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO DISCUSS THIS.

IT WOULD BE AN OPTION TO CONSIDER AND ALSO GIVE RESIDENTS TIME TO GIVE FEEDBACK ON THAT IDEA.

WHICH TAKES POSSIBLY AWAY A BRIDGE, BUT IT COULD INCREASE CONNECTIVITY AND THEREFORE IN SOME CAPACITY INCREASE THERE.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO USE THE ROADWAY FEES THERE? I DON'T KNOW, BUT I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO SEE IF YOU CAN COME UP WITH AN ANSWER FOR THAT OPTION.

>> SURE, WE CAN DO THAT.

>> I THINK THE GENERAL SENSE IS JUST WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT RISK WE'RE AT TOO ALSO.

>> [INAUDIBLE] WHAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO COME BACK.

IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE LEANING TOWARDS TRYING TO MAYBE MAKE BETTER SOME OF THE NEGATIVES AND NOT DOING THE PROJECT.

WHICH SOUNDS LIKE DENTON COUNTY OR.

>> TIFFANY IF I WAS BEING TOO AMBIGUOUS.

>> OKAY.

>> I'M NOT ANY MORE EAGER TO SPEND THE COUNTY'S MONEY ON THIS THAN I AM OUR OWN MONEY.

I DON'T WANT TO SPEND IMPACT FEES JUST BECAUSE WE WILL HAVE TO SPEND THEM.

I'D RATHER GIVE THEM BACK. THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ME AT ALL, AND IF THE COUNTIES, THOSE TAXPAYERS FOR THE COUNTY, WE'RE JUST AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR SPENDING THEIR MONEY WISELY AS WE ARE ON SO THAT WE CAN DO TO GET [INAUDIBLE].

>> TO BE CLEAR, THE IMPACT THESE DON'T GO BACK TO THE RESIDENTS.

IT GOES TO THE DEVELOPERS WHO PAID THEM, JUST SO MAKE SURE EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT.

BUT I'M LEANING TOWARD, DON'T JUST SPEND MONEY TO SPEND MONEY.

BUT IF THERE IS SOME BENEFIT TO THAT SMALL SECTION CONNECTING AROUND, I'D JUST LIKE TO HEAR ABOUT IT, THAT'S ALL.

>> ON THE SAME PAGE AS YOU. WE DON'T NEED TO SPEND MONEY JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE IT, LET'S GIVE IT BACK.

BUT I ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT, REDUCE OUR LEVEL OF SERVICE FOR EMERGENCY ACCESS.

>> I'D WELCOME THAT ANALYSIS AS WELL.

>> I HEARD IN PUBLIC COMMENT THERE'S A 97 BOND.

IS THAT CORRECT? I DIDN'T SEE IT ON THE LIST.

>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS A GENERAL GO GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT SALE OR BOND PACKAGE THAT AT THAT TIME WHEN THEY WERE PREPARING THE ORIGINAL PROJECT ON THE CAPITAL PLAN.

>> THEN THERE WAS THE OTHER THINGS OF TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

IS THAT ALL TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT?

>> THE PROJECT ITSELF, THERE WOULD BE A TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THIS INTERSECTION IF THE PROJECT WENT THROUGH, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE PROJECT.

DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OR OKAY.

>> YEAH.

>> ON THAT NOTE, JUST I DON'T WANT TO KEEP THIS GOING ALL NIGHT, BUT LEGITIMATE QUESTION.

WHILE WE'RE HEARING THAT THIS WAS VOTED ON BY VOTERS AND APPROVED THREE TIMES.

IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THIS WASN'T ACTUALLY ONLY ON A BALLOT FOR FLOWER MOUND VOTERS.

IT WAS ALL DENTON COUNTY VOTERS?

>> CORRECT.

>> ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.

THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE VOTED FOR MANY OTHER PROJECTS.

[OVERLAPPING] THAT NOT JUST THIS AS A LINE ITEM.

THANK YOU MR. MAYOR GOOD JOB.

>> COUNCIL.

>> MR. CHILDERS, DO YOU WANT TO WRAP IT UP?

>> YES, I DO. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE GOT A LOT OF INDIVIDUAL DIRECTION AND IDEAS FROM EVERYBODY, AND WHAT I WANTED TO GAUGE AS WE MOVE FORWARD IS THAT IF THERE'S CONSENSUS AMONGST A GROUP, WE CAN EXPLORE ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE BROUGHT UP.

I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO GO BACK AND SEE IF THERE'S CONSENSUS ON EVERY PARTICULAR ITEM, BUT AT SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO BE PRESUMPTUOUS EITHER.

IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE, WE CAPTURED EVERYTHING IN THE NOTES.

WE CAN GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE ITEMS AND BRING THEM BACK TO YOU LATER TODAY, MAYBE POTENTIALLY AT A WORK SESSION.

I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE'S A COMFORT LEVEL WITH US JUST EXPLORING EVERYTHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP BY EVERYBODY TO SEE ME.

>> I THINK WE HAVE SIX VERTICAL [INAUDIBLE] OKAY.

>> WITH THAT UNDERSTOOD AGAIN, JUST TO IMPRESS UPON YOU THAT WILL EXPLORE AND WE'LL BRING THIS BEFORE YOU, BEFORE IT'S APPROPRIATE IN THE BUDGET OR ANYTHING IS ON THE CIP.

WE UNDERSTAND AND WE GOT A PRETTY TIGHT WINDOW GOING INTO THE BUDGET PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO RETURN IT BACK TO YOU.

I'M NOT GOING TO PUT A DATE OUT THERE, BECAUSE SOMEBODY MIGHT THROW SOMETHING AT ME AND I NEED TO DOUBLE-CHECK WITH FOLKS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN DO THAT, [OVERLAPPING].

>> TOTALLY GOVERNMENT. BUT IF WE HAVE TO HAVE A SPECIAL WORKSTATION OR SOME TYPE OF TOWN HALL, LIKE A COMMUNITY HALL MEETING OR SOMETHING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS ON A SATURDAY AFTERNOON OR JUST AGAIN, TRYING TO THINK OUT OF THE BOX BECAUSE IF WE TRIED TO PUT IT ON A WORK SESSION AND THERE'S ALREADY WORK SESSION ITEMS THAT ARE ALREADY SUPPOSE WE TALKED ABOUT FROM A MEETING TWO MONTHS AGO.

I GET INSTAFF IS GOING BE OVERLOADED.

WHATEVER YOU GUYS CAN DO TO HELP MOVE THIS ALONG QUICKER WOULD BE BETTER.

>> UNDERSTOOD.

>> MR. CHILDERS. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOUR REPORT?

>> JUST A FEW QUICK UPDATES.

SOME LIGHTER FARE, IF YOU WILL.

OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT IS I THINK ONE OF THE BEST IN THE COUNTRY, AND THIS YEAR IS TEXAS ASSOCIATION OF MUNICIPAL INFORMATION OFFICERS OR TAMIO.

WE TOOK HOME THREE AWARDS FOR THE VIDEOS THAT WE PRODUCE IN THIS LAST YEAR.

I THINK THAT WE DO A GREAT JOB OF USING COMEDY, HUMOR, LIGHTHEARTEDNESS TO CONVEY INFORMATION AND CONNECT.

WE GOT THE FIRST PLACE AWARD FOR THE HALF A MILLI LET'S GET SILLY.

[02:35:02]

IF YOU RECALL, THAT'S WHAT WE DID FOR OUR LIBRARY.

FOR CIRCULATION, OVER HALF MILLION MATERIALS.

WE GOT SECOND PLACE IN OUR PSA FOR OUR SUMMER READING PROGRAM LAST YEAR UNDER THE SEA.

WE GOT THIRD PLACE FOR OUR FLOWER MOUND, DEA AND DRAGONS.

I KNEW WERE GOING DO THAT.

BUT THIS IS A HIGHLY COMPETITIVE FIELD THIS PAST YEAR HAS A LOT OF VIDEOS IN THERE AND WE SUBMITTED FOR 10 CATEGORIES, BROUGHT BACK THREE TROPHIES.

AGAIN, THAT'S A REFLECTION OF GREAT WORK THAT OUR COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT DOES ON A REGULAR BASIS.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT TO IN A BIT OF GREAT NEWS AND KEEPING A LONG-HORN TRADITION HERE IN A TOWN OF FLOWER MOUND IS THAT BOTH STANDARDS AND POOR AND FITCH HAVE AFFIRMED OUR AAA BOND RATING STATUS.

AGAIN, IF YOU WORK IN THIS PROFESSION, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU STRIVE FOR IF YOU'RE NOT AAA BOND READY TO GET THERE AND IF YOU HAVE IT, YOU MAINTAIN IT.

THAT'S JUST DUE TO THE GREAT WORK THAT OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES GROUP DOES, TAMMY, JULIE, AND JOHN IS GOING TO BE HERE WITH ITEM LATER AND HE CAN CERTAINLY CHIME IN ON THE IMPACT OF THAT AND ULTIMATELY THAT BOND RATING ALLOWS US TO SAVE OUR RESONANCE MONEY.

THAT'S THE KEY THING ABOUT IT AND ALSO SHOWS THAT WE'RE GOOD STEWARDS WITH PUBLIC FUNDS.

IT'D BE REMISSIVE IF I DIDN'T MENTION THAT WE AFFIRMED OUR AAA BOND RATING.

>> ANYTHING ELSE SIR? MOVING ON TO FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FUTURE AGENDA ITEMS THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? I'LL START ON MY RIGHT WITH MR. SCHIESTEL.

ON HERE, MOVING ON TO COORDINATION OF CALENDARS,

[I. COORDINATION OF CALENDARS]

WE HAVE A FEW UPCOMING MEETINGS.

JULY 3RD WILL BE CANCELED IN OBSERVANCE OF INDEPENDENCE DAY.

JULY 17TH, REGULAR MEETING WILL EVERYONE BE HERE? PERFECT. MOVING ON TO ITEM J, CONSENT ITEMS.

[J. CONSENT ITEM(S)]

DOES ANYONE WISH TO MOVE ANY CONSENT ITEMS TO REGULAR? IF NOT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR CONSENT ITEMS ONE THROUGH NINE. MOTION?

>> I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE CONSENT ITEMS J 1-9, AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL.

>> AYE.

>> CONSENT ITEMS PASSED AS PRESENTED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

MOVING ON TO ITEM K, REGULAR ITEMS.

>> WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING, I HAVE A LOT OF NOTES HERE, HANG ON.

WE'RE GOING TO BE OPENING, ITEM 1, TOURIST PID CONSULTING SERVICES.

[K1. TIRZ/PID Consulting Services - Consider approval of a Professional Services Agreement with P3 Works LLC, for TIRZ/PID creation and administration services agreement with a not to exceed amount of $40,000 - FY22-23.]

WE HAVE A STAFF PRESENTATION BY MR. CHILDERS.

>> YES, SIR. I WILL GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS AND WHY THIS HAS SHOWN UP AS A REGULAR ITEM, IF WE HAVE TO GET ANY DETAILS, JP WALTON IS HERE TO HELP ME OUT.

BUT THE REASON WHY WE MOVED THIS ONE TO, NORMALLY THIS SHOULD BE A CONSENT ITEM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I LOOKED AT IS TO THE UNINITIATED, WHEN THEY LOOK AT THE AGREEMENT, THEY COULD FIND SOME PROVISIONS OF A TROUBLING WITHOUT ANY CONTEXTS.

IN PARTICULAR, OUR AGREEMENT WITH P3WORKS TALKS ABOUT A POSSIBLE TOURS NUMBER 2, BUT IT ALSO REFERENCES A PID NUMBER 2.

I JUST WANT TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PUBLICLY STATE WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND IN PARTICULAR, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THIS IS NOT OBLIGATED TO A TOURIST NOR PID.

WHAT WE ARE DOING WITH P3WORKS IS THAT THEY'RE DOING ANALYSIS FOR OUTLETS AND PARTICULARLY THE PROJECT AT FIRST RANCH TO LOOK AT THE VIABILITY OF A TOURS TO FUND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE, THAT'S A PART OF THAT PROJECT, THAT'S NOT JUST THE PROPERTY OWNERS, BUT AS WELL AS THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY FOR PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS OUT THERE.

PART OF THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING, IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE IF AN ADDITIONAL LEVYING PUT TOOL SUCH AS A PID IS NECESSARY.

IN THE SCOPE OF THE WORK, THAT'S WHY IT'S WRITTEN IN THERE, BECAUSE THEIR ANALYSIS MAY DETERMINE THAT AN ADDITIONAL ACCESSORY A LEVYING TOOL NEEDS TO BE NECESSARY IN ORDER FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD.

AGAIN, WHEN I SAW THAT WE WANTED TO CLARIFY WITH YOU AND AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN PROCESSES THAT ARE IN PLACE PER CHARTER, HOW WE HANDLE PIDS AND THINGS THAT NATURE.

THIS IS NOT CIRCUMVENT THAT AND IT DOESN'T OBLIGATE US TO DO ANYTHING.

BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS RATIFYING OUR WORK WITH P3WORKS.

THIS IS THE APPROPRIATION OF ISSUES AROUND $40,000 IN ANY FUTURE APPROPRIATIONS WILL BE HANDLED IN THE BUDGET PROCESS.

THIS IS NOT A BLANK CHECK OR OPEN CHECK REGISTERED FOR THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR.

P3WORKS IS A GREAT ALLY FOR US TO THIS PROCESS, THEY ARE EXPERTS IN THIS FIELD, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THEY ONLY WORK WITH MUNICIPALITIES AND THEY'VE SEEN THESE PROJECTS,

[02:40:03]

UNDERSTAND, ASK THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, TO PUT US IN THE BEST POSITION TO PUT SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT MEETS THE NEEDS, AND ALSO PROTECTS OUR RESONANCE AS WELL AS THE TOWN IN THIS PROCESS.

IT'S A GREAT PARTNERSHIP TO HAVE, BUT AGAIN, JUST WANTED TO USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO ALLY NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT OBLIGATING US TO DO ANYTHING AND IT'S NOT SETTING UP OR GUARANTEEING THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PID AS BY VIRTUE OF THIS AGREEMENT.

THAT'S JUST A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE ON THIS ITEM.

>> I DID HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ON THE ACTUAL CONTRACT ITSELF, AND I ABSOLUTELY HAVE ENJOYED WORKING WITH THEM.

I THINK THEY'VE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB SO FAR, VERY SHARP TOP-NOTCH.

I'M REALLY HAPPY THAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT CONSIDERING RETAINING THEM FOR CONSULTATION ON A POSSIBLE TOURISTS SLASH PID.

THE ONE THING THAT I READ IN THE CONTRACT THAT I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT WAS SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH A PID, IT APPEARED THAT IT DOES OBLIGATE US TO WORK EXCLUSIVELY WITH P3, AND ALSO THE TERMS AND CONDITIONS, AND THE RATES.

I WAS A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT SOME OF THE RATES AND ALSO THE UNDERSTANDING OF A PID.

PID NUMBER 1 IS NOT OUR MONEY, IT ONLY IS FUNNELED THROUGH AS OUR BOND AUTHORITY.

IF THAT'S AN OPTION AND IT SAYS, IF BONDS ARE NOT ISSUED, THEN WE STILL OWE A MONTHLY FEE, AND THE FEE WOULD INCREASE ANNUALLY BY 2%, AND THEN THERE'S A DIFFERENT FEE OF BONDS ARE ISSUED.

THAT'S MY ONE POINT OF CONCERN AND MY SECOND THING IS SIGNING THIS CONTRACT.

IF WE DID MOVE FORWARD, IF THERE WERE A PID NUMBER 2, DOES THAT PUT US IN CONFLICT WITH ANY OF OUR OTHER BONDING AGENCIES.

FOR EXAMPLE, HILLTOP SECURITIES, DO WE HAVE ANY EXCLUSIVE CONTRACT WITH THEM THAT THIS POSSIBLY COULD BE IN CONFLICT WITH.

>> FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND THIS IS, AS A PID ADMINISTRATOR, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

>> OKAY.

>> THIS IS WHAT IS IN ESSENCE IS, AS A PID ADMINISTRATOR OR TOURIST ADMINISTRATOR.

IF YOU JUST LOOK AT IT JUST FROM A PROCESS STANDPOINT, WHO BETTER TO SERVES THE ADMINISTRATIVE AND THE ENTITY TO HELP YOU SET IT UP, IN THE FIRST PLACE.

SO YOU HAVE THAT CONTINUITY ON THERE.

THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WORK WITH P3 TO SET THIS PARTICULAR ITEM UP, WE NATURALLY WANT THEM TO SERVE AS THE ADMINISTRATIVE MOVING FORWARD.

>> THEY SERVE AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL, THERE'S A PROVISION IN THE AGREEMENT DETERMINE [INAUDIBLE] THIS.

IF WE WANT TO REPLACE P3WORKS WITH ANOTHER PID OR TOURIST ADMINISTRATOR, WE WOULD JUST TERMINATE THIS AGREEMENT AND THAT WOULD BE THE END OF IT.

>> DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA ON LIKELIHOOD IF A PID WERE ESTABLISHED, BUT NO BONDS WERE ISSUED, WOULD THAT JUST BE A CARRYING COST UNTIL BONDS WERE ISSUED AND THEN THE MONTHLY COSTS WOULD GO UP; IS THAT HOW THAT WORKS?

>> THAT'S THE THING I THINK THAT WILL BE WORKED UP WHEN WE DETERMINE WHETHER THE BONDS WILL BE ISSUED, BUT EITHER WAY, ONCE THE PID IS CREATED IF IT IS, THE P3WORKS AT FEES ARE TO BE EXCLUSIVELY DERIVED FROM THE PID ASSESSMENT AND NOT FROM THE GENERAL FUND.

THE TOWN WOULD NOT BE PAYING FOR THOSE SERVICES.

>> WE ARE AGREEING TO SERVICES AND A FEE FOR SERVICE WHEN IT'S NOT REALLY UNDER OUR AUTHORITY AS FAR AS TAXING, IT'S NOT OUR MONEY?

>> WE WOULD BE THE PID BOARD AND THEY AGREE TO LOOK SOLELY TOWARDS THE FUNDS FROM THE PID FOR COMPENSATION, AND THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM LOOKING TOWARDS THE TOWN FOR COMPENSATION.

NOW, OBVIOUSLY, IF THEY'RE NOT COMPENSATED THEN THEY RESIGN.

>> I'M NOT OPPOSED TO COMPENSATING THEM.

I REALLY JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE MECHANICS OF IT, AND THE DECISION, AND THE AUTHORITIES, AND GOING FORWARD.

[OVERLAPPING] THEY'RE AN EXCELLENT FIRM, I'VE BEEN VERY IMPRESSED WITH THEIR WORK, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE GETTING INTO THAT [INAUDIBLE].

>> I'VE WORKED WITH THEM MANY TIMES, THEY REALLY DO SERVE AT THE WILL OF COUNCIL AND IF AT ANY MOMENT WE DECIDE WE NO LONGER NEED THEIR SERVICES, WE WOULD JUST PAY ANY OUTSTANDING INVOICES AND TERMINATE THE AGREEMENT.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

>> COUNCIL. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL ENTERTAIN THE MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR ITEM K1, AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILOR MEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> AND COUNCILOR MEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 1 TOURS PAID CONSULTING SERVICES IS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

BEFORE MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2, THIS COUNCIL WISH TO TAKE A 10-MINUTE RECESS.

WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 2 HOURS AND 45 MINUTES.

[02:45:02]

LET'S TAKE A 10-MINUTE RECESS IF WE SHALL, SO I WILL MAKE IT OFFICIAL BY SAYING THE TIME IS NOW 8:45 AND WE ARE IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES [NOISE].

THE TIME IS 8:55 AND WE'RE BACK IN SESSION.

[NOISE] PROCEEDING ON TO ITEM NUMBER 2,

[K2. ZPD21-0016 - Landshark Car Wash - Public Hearing to consider an ordinance for rezoning (ZPD21-0016 – Landshark Car Wash) to amend Planned Development District No.114 (PD-114) with Office District (O) and Retail District2 (R-2) uses, to modify the conceptual plans and elevations, and modify the development standards for Lot 2RA-1, Block A, of the Windsor Ridges Addition to permit a car wash use. The property is generally located east of Long Prairie Road and south of Merriweather Lane. (PZ recommended approval by a vote of 5 to 1 at its June 12, 2023, meeting.)]

ZPD21-0016 LANDSHARK CAR WASH STARTING US OFF WAS THE STAFF PRESENTATION BY NONE OTHER THAN LEXINGTON MURPHY.

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR COUNCIL.

AS MENTIONED, THIS IS A PROPOSED AS ZONING PLAN DEVELOPMENT AMENDMENT.

HERE IS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROPERTY.

CAN SEE THAT IT'S EAST OF LONE PRAIRIE AND SOUTH OF MERIWETHER LANE.

HERE'S A MORE CLOSE UP VIEW OF THE PROPERTY.

THE BUYER LANES AROUND IT HAD BEEN PUT IN, BUT THE PROPERTY IS STILL UNDEVELOPED, IT'S NEXT TO THE TACO BUENO.

THE LAND USE FOR THIS PROPERTY IS RETAIL AND THE ZONING IS PD-114, WITH RETAIL-2 AND OFFICE USES.

HOWEVER, THE SPECIFIC PARCEL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TONIGHT IS ZONED RETAIL-2.

THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE AMENDED WITHIN THIS PD AMENDMENT.

THEY ARE REQUESTING TO ALLOW A CAR WASH USE, AND SO THEY ARE ONLY REQUESTING TO ALLOW IT WITHIN THAT PARCEL AND THE OVERALL PD.

HERE IS THE GENERAL CONCEPT PLAN FOR THE PROPERTY.

JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY ARE REQUESTING, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY WOULD HAVE ACCESS FROM MERIWETHER LANE.

THERE'S NO ACCESS FROM LONE PRAIRIE, NO DIRECT ACCESS.

PROPERTY IS A LITTLE LESS THAN AN ACRE, AND THIS DOTTED OR DASHED LINE, THIS IS THE EVERYTHING THAT'S WITHIN THE ACTUAL BUILDING, SO THE CAR WASH, THE TUNNEL, THE VACUUM BASE THAT WOULD ALL BE WITHIN THE BUILDING IS WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING.

HERE'S SOME VIEWS OF THE PROPERTY, THIS IS LOOKING SOUTH.

HERE WE ARE LOOKING NORTHEAST ACROSS THE VACANT LOT, AND HERE WE ARE LOOKING AT WEST DIRECTLY ACROSS THE EMPTY PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE CONCEPT PLAN AS PROPOSED.

NORMALLY, A CAR WASH USE WOULD BE ALLOWED WITH AN SUP IN R2 ZONING.

BUT IN THIS PARTICULAR PD, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, CAR WASH WASN'T LISTED AS AN ALLOWED USE.

THAT'S WHY THEY ARE ACTUALLY REQUESTING TO AMEND THE PD TO MAKE THIS AN ALLOWED USE WITHIN THE BELT DEVELOPMENT.

THEY'RE REQUESTING TO MAKE IT A USE BY RIGHT, BUT AGAIN, ONLY TO THAT PROPERTY.

YOU WOULD NOT HAVE TO BE CONCERNED THAT A CAR WASH WOULD OPEN IN OTHER PLACES WITHIN THIS DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.

THEY HAVE ALSO AGREED TO A CONDITION THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT THIS INTERNAL DEVELOPMENT BE USED FOR ANY FUTURE CAR WASH EVEN ON THIS PROPERTY, SO THEY COULDN'T JUST CHANGE THEIR MIND, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT? NEVER MIND. WE ACTUALLY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT WITH THIS WHOLE ENCLOSED WITHIN A BUILDING IDEAS.

THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT OF THE PD.

HERE'S THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AND THEY'RE MEETING ALL THE LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS ALONG THE TWO ROADWAYS.

THEY ARE PROVIDING REQUIRED NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES.

FOR THE TOWN'S PARKING, WE USE A DIFFERENT NUMBER FOR THE TUNNEL AREA AND THEN THE ACTUAL OFFICE SPACE OVERALL, EIGHT SPACES WOULD BE REQUIRED AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.

THEY ARE ALSO OFFERING AN AMENITY AREA ADJACENT TO LONE PRAIRIE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE PD.

HERE ARE THE ELEVATIONS OF THE BUILDING.

THIS GIVES YOU A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT IT ALL BEING CONTAINED WITHIN A BUILDING.

THE GRAY BOXES, THAT'S THE OPENING.

THESE ARE THE PROPOSED MATERIALS AS ALL WITHIN MEETING THE TOWN'S URBAN DESIGN GUIDELINES AND ALSO BLENDING WITH THE EXISTING BUILDINGS WITHIN THIS OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

AGAIN, HERE'S THAT CONCEPT PLAN AND THE APPLICANT ALSO HAS A PRESENTATION, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

>> ONE OF THE SLIDES AUCTION SHOWED THE OVERHEAD.

SLIDE 3, THANK YOU.

IF YOU COULD PULL IT UP BUT ZOOM OUT BECAUSE I WAS TRYING TO GET A SENSE OF WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL STARTS IN RELATION TO THIS PROPERTY.

IN RIVERWALK. OH, THERE. [OVERLAPPING]

>> HERE'S RIVERWALK FLATS IMMEDIATELY NORTH? [OVERLAPPING]

[02:50:02]

>> AND THEN RIVERWALK FLATS IS UP NORTH.

BUT THE REST OF THE HOMES IN THE RIVERWALK, LIKE THE TOWN HOMES AND STUFF THAT ARE DUE EAST OF THERE.

I GUESS WE'D HAVE TO DO WITH GOOGLE EARTH.

>> THIS IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE.

THIS IS THE WINDSOR RIDGES DEVELOPMENT, IMMEDIATELY NORTH.

AGAIN, HERE'S RIVERWALK FLATS.

THESE ARE RESIDENTIAL HERE TO THE WEST.

>> AND TO THE EAST THAT MAYFAIR STREET THAT'S RESIDENTIAL AS WELL? AND THEN THAT LOT BEHIND THE TACO BUENO WEST OF MORNINGSIDE DRIVE.

WHAT IS THAT ZONE FOR CURRENTLY?

>> IF YOU SWITCH IT OVER [INAUDIBLE], OF THE LAYERS, YOU'LL SEE [INAUDIBLE], IT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY A PARKING LOT.

>> THE PARKING LOT.

>> THAT WHOLE BIG THING IS THE PARKING LOT.

>> THAT GREEN SPACE IS A PARKING LOT?

>> YES.

>> EAST OF TACO BUENO.

>> TACO BUENO IS A PARKING LOT OF THE HOSPITAL.

>> ON MY GOOGLE IT SHOWS ITS PARKING LOT.

>> OKAY.

>> LET ME GO TO THE.

>> PARKING LOT.

>> [OVERLAPPING] YES.

>> I THINK THAT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE PD.

THEY AMENDED THE PD THE HOSPITAL DID TO INCORPORATE THAT LAND SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE IT AS A PARKING LOT FOR THE HOSPITAL.

EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT PART OF RIVERWALK, THEY DESIGNATED IT AS HOSPITAL PARKING WITHIN PD-114 TO SERVE THE HOSPITAL AND THE ADJACENT RIVERWALK DEVELOPMENT.

>> I DO HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S MORE FOR THE APPLICANT BECAUSE I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT THE CONCEPT OF IT ALL BEING IN A BUILDING.

>> IF I CAN. HERE'S THE TOWNS.

HERE'S PD-114, OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S THE PROPERTY AND THEN IS THIS THE PARKING LOT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT?

>> YES. WELL, THAT WAS IMMEDIATELY BEHIND THERE.

THEN WOULD THAT BE THE SAME FOR THAT GREEN SPACE BEHIND THAT PLAZA.

>> THIS GREEN SPACE?

>> NO, TO THE NORTH.

THAT BIGGER ONE.

>> THIS IS PART OF PD-114.

THIS WAS JUST A SMALL CHANGE.

>> THE ONE WITH THE DETENTION POND, I THINK.

I THINK THERE'S A TRAIL, BUT IS NOT PART OF THE PARKS AND TRAILS?

>> THEN THIS IS FLOODPLAIN.

THAT ONE WILL NOT BE DEVELOPED.

THEN THIS IS A TOWN TRAIL.

>> THAT SECTION THAT SAYS IS LABELED DETENTION POND, IS THAT ALSO JUST FLOOD PLAIN, TOO? IT WON'T BE DEVELOPED.

>> IT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED FOR A DETENTION POND.

>> THE PROPERTY DOWN TO THE SOUTH THERE, THE DETENTION POND WAS A MEDICAL BUILDING ORIGINALLY PLANNED.

>> THE MEDICAL BUILDINGS NOT THERE YET?

>>NO.

>> YEAH.

>> IT COULD BE SOMETHING ELSE?

>> POTENTIALLY.

>> OKAY.

>> AT A LATER DATE.

>> THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED.

>> THE HOSPITAL OWNS THAT TRACKED AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

[02:55:02]

>> FLOWER MOUND HOSPITAL.

>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LEXINGTON? THANK YOU MA'AM. SIR, I DON'T HAVE YOUR NAMES ON HERE PRESENTING.

IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.

>>DOUGH GALLOWAY, 4205 HIGH STAR IN DALLAS.

I'M THE MANAGING PARTNER OF LANDSHARK CAR WASH, ALONG WITH ROB NIXON, WHO'S THE TOWN RESIDENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.

WE RUN OUR BRAND A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN THE AVERAGE EXPRESS CAR WASH. WE OFFER A LOUNGE AREA TO RELAX IN DURING THE HEAT.

WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED THAT THE PAST FEW DAYS WE OFFER FREE WATER.

WE DO ALL THE USUAL AIR AND VACUUMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT ALSO GIVE OUT DETAILED KITS AND JUST CONTINUE TO THROW AS MANY AMENITIES AS WE POSSIBLY CAN TO OUR GUESTS.

SHOOTING FOR FIVE-STAR REVIEWS.

AS PART OF THOSE FIVE-STAR REVIEWS.

REALLY, WE TAKE TREMENDOUS PRIDE IN BEING JUST A TOP-NOTCH CAR WASH. THAT'S WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS INTERSECTION AND HEARD OF THE TOWN.

I REALLY WANTED JUST TO DRILL DOWN ON REALLY WHAT THIS IS.

ALTHOUGH IT SEEMS COMPLEX, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SIMPLISTIC.

ONCE YOU KIND OF DRILL DOWN INTO IT.

IN MOST EXPRESSED CAR WASHES, YOU WOULD PAY FOR YOUR CAR WASH OUTSIDE.

YOU THEN WOULD SWING AROUND AND SOMEBODY WOULD LOAD YOU ONTO THE CONVEYOR OUTSIDE.

YOU'D GO THROUGH THE TUNNEL AND THEN YOU WOULD EXIT THE TUNNEL.

YOU'D BE OUTSIDE AGAIN, AND THEN YOU'D HAVE SOME VACUUM CANOPIES OF SOME KIND AND SOME LIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT FOR A VACUUMING AREA, AND THEN YOU'D LEAVE.

THE FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE HERE IS EVERY SINGLE THING YOU SEE IN THAT YELLOW BOX IS INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND SCREENED FROM NOISE AND VIEW FROM THE STREET.

ONCE YOU PAY FOR YOUR WASH OR WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS SO LONG, OR IF YOU CHOOSE TO LEAVE ON THE ESCAPE LINE BEFORE THE FIRST POINT OF SERVICE.

ONCE YOU ENTER THE BUILDING, THEN YOU ENTER THE TUNNEL, THEN YOU LEAVE THE TUNNEL.

BUT YOU'RE STILL IN THE BUILDING.

THAT VACUUMING AREA IS OPEN TO SKY, WHICH YOU'LL SEE IN A MOMENT, I HAVE A RENDERING.

BUT YOU'RE ACTUALLY STILL SCREEN FROM LONG PRAIRIE.

YOU'RE NOT SEEING THOSE FOLKS VACUUMING, YOU'RE NOT HEARING THAT.

EVEN THE MACHINES THAT RUN THE VACUUMS, THEY'RE HIDDEN AWAY INSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THAT EQUIPMENT AREA, THAT'S ACTUALLY OUR DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE AS WELL.

WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A CMU MASONRY DUMPSTER ENCLOSURE SOMEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY.

EVERYTHING IS ENCAPSULATED IN THIS BUILDING.

IF YOU WANT TO USE THE CAR WASH, YOU GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A GREAT STELLAR CAR WASH EXPERIENCE.

IF YOU DON'T, IT LOOKS LIKE THE VETERINARY BUILDING JUST DOWN THE ROAD.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THE RETIREMENT COMMUNITIES AND OTHER MEDICAL OFFICES IN THE AREA.

HERE YOU ARE ENTERING THE BUILDING.

ONCE YOU DO SO, YOU WOULD THEN BE LOADED IN THE CONVEYOR INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.

YOU HAVE NOW LEFT THE TUNNEL AND YOU'RE NOW IN THE VACUUMING AREA.

THOSE ARE ALL GLASS WINDOWS, THOSE AREN'T JUST OPENINGS WITH STEEL.

THOSE ARE FULL STOREFRONT SYSTEM.

THEN THERE IS THE VACUUMING AREA THAT THAT IS OPEN TO SKY THEY'RE IN THE MIDDLE.

AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO BECAUSE WE KNEW THIS WAS A STELLAR CORNER AS WE REALLY WANTED TO ELEVATE OUR A GAME AND DO SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A GREAT AMENITY FOR THE RESONANCE.

ALSO ANOTHER BIT OF A RETAIL DRAW THERE FOR THE RIVERWALK AREA, BRINGING PEOPLE IN FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

THEN JUST ANOTHER FAST CASUAL RESTAURANT.

I DO WANT TO HIT BRIEFLY ABOUT A YEAR AGO, SOME FOLKS FROM THE RIVERWALK FLATS REACHED OUT TO US AND I BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY REACHED OUT TO YOU GUYS AS WELL.

THEY WERE VERY UPSET THAT WE HAD A DOG WASH.

MOST OF OUR LOCATIONS DO INCLUDE A DOG WASH. AGAIN, WE WILL THROW THE KITCHEN SINK AT YOU TO GET A FIVE-STAR REVIEW.

WE IMMEDIATELY UPON HEARING THAT, WE TRIED TO GET A MEETING WITH THEM, THREE OR FOUR ATTEMPTS COULDN'T GET A MEETING WITH THOSE RESIDENTS, BUT WE IMMEDIATELY REMOVED THE CAR WASH OR REMOVED THE DOG WASH FROM THE FACILITY.

WE WENT AND MET WITH THE PET BAR OWNER THAT'S JUST ACROSS THE STREET, MET WITH HIM AND SAID, I WANT YOU TO KNOW IF YOU'VE HEARD ANYTHING, WE WILL NOT HAVE A DOG WASH HERE.

WE'D LOVE TO CREATE A STRATEGIC ALLIANCE WITH YOU IN THE MEETING WENT VERY WELL AND WE CAN THINK OF ALL KINDS OF WAYS THAT WE COULD CROSS MARKET WITH EACH OTHER.

JUST WANTED TO BRING THAT UP.

THEN ALSO DURING P AND Z.

THEN I'LL PAUSE FOR YOU GUYS, BUT DURING P AND Z, THEY ASKED US WHAT MIGHT THE SIGNS LOOK LIKE.

STAFF REMINDED ME THIS MORNING THAT THESE ARE NOT FORMALLY SUBMITTED OR APPROVED BY THE STAFF, BUT THERE WAS A CURIOSITY WHAT MIGHT THE SIGNS LOOK LIKE.

WE THREW THIS TOGETHER.

THIS IS SHOWING THEM ILLUMINATED, OF COURSE,

[03:00:03]

BUT WE DON'T REALLY WANT TO GO OVER THE TOP WITH SIGNAGE.

IT'S PART OF OUR PHILOSOPHY THAT WE THINK THAT YOU COME TO A BUSINESS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THERE.

NOT JUST CAREENING OFF THE ROAD BECAUSE YOU SAW A HUGE SIGN, BUT WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK PREVIEW FOR THAT.

WE'RE EXTREMELY PASSIONATE PEOPLE.

I COULD GO ON AND ON.

BUT AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS TO YOU, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. [INAUDIBLE] DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION?

>> I DO. MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO RELATE TO THE EXHAUST OR THE VEHICLES WHEN I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ENCLOSED.

BUT I DO FEEL BETTER THAT IT'S OPEN-AIR WHERE THE BAYS ARE.

BUT THEN HAVE YOU DONE ANY NOISE STUDIES? BECAUSE NOISE CAN GO UP.

I MEAN, IT CAN GO OUT, IT CAN GO UP.

I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.

>> ABSOLUTELY. THESE SLIDES ARE, THEY KEEP TURNING ON ME, BUT WE'VE, GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE DECIBELS ON OUR TRADITIONAL EQUIPMENT, AND WE'VE ACTUALLY ISOLATED THEM TO THE BUILDING.

THIS ROOM YOU SEE HERE INSIDE OF THOSE DOORS IS ACTUALLY SOUND DEADENING WALLS AND THAT'S WHERE THAT EQUIPMENT IS.

IT SAYS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HIDDEN THIS EQUIPMENT AWAY IN OUR OTHER CAR WASHES.

WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING HERE.

IN FACT, THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ONE IN THE UNITED STATES.

THIS WILL BE THE FIRST ONE.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE WORKED AT DEADENING THIS NOISE DOWN A LOT AND I'M SUPREMELY CONFIDENT THAT WE WOULD BE QUIETER THAN EVEN THAT TACO BUENO NEXT DOOR.

>> WHAT ARE THE NORMAL HOURS OF OPERATION INTENDED TO BE?

>> INTENDED WOULD BE 08:00 TO 08:00.

>> MONDAY?

>> MONDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.

>> SO SEVEN DAYS A WEEK?

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY.

>> I THINK IT'S A REALLY COOL DESIGN.

THIS IS DEFINITELY NOT YOUR ORDINARY KIND OF CAR WASH.

>> FOR SURE. THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU FOR THE FORETHOUGHT YOU PUT INTO FLOWER MOUNDING IT UP.

[LAUGHTER] AS THEY SAY.

>> THAT'S A TERM WE USED. [LAUGHTER]

>> OKAY.

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> QUESTION. YOU GOT A HOLE IN THE ROOF.

LONG TIME AGO THERE WAS TEXAS STADIUM IN IRVING AND THE HOLE IN THE ROOF.

IT USED TO GET BLASTED HOT IN THERE IN THE SUMMER OR WHEN THE SUN WAS BEATING DOWN ON YOU.

DO YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS AND HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REGULATE THE TEMPERATURE WITHIN THE AREA THAT THE CARS ARE GOING TO BE DRYING OFF.

>> WE'VE TALKED WITH THE BIG ASS FAN FOLKS, [LAUGHTER] FOR A LACK OF JUST A BETTER TERM THERE.

WE THINK WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO PUT THREE OF THEM DOWN THAT MIDDLE AREA TO GET AIR CIRCULATING AND MOVING.

THEN WE'VE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT DO WE END UP TUCKING AWAY SOME MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT ABOVE THE TUNNEL, BELOW THE ROOF SYSTEM, AND TURNOVER A LITTLE BIT MORE AIR? WE TAKE A LOT OF TIME TO CONSIDER STUFF LIKE THAT AND WORK WITH OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS TO MAKE SURE THAT NOT ONLY ARE WE DELIVERING AN A CLASS PRODUCT.

BUT WE'RE DOING SO IN A MANNER THAT'S COMFORTABLE, AND SUFFICIENT FOR THE GUESTS TO THINK I AM GETTING THAT EXPERIENCE.

I AM GETTING WHAT I'M PAYING FOR AND I DO WANT TO COME BACK.

>> I HAVE ONE MORE FOLLOW-UP.

>> SURE.

>> AM I SITTING IN MY CAR THE WHOLE TIME OR DO I GIVE YOU THE CAR AND YOU DO ALL THE WHOLE THING FOR ME?

>> THE WAIT EXPRESS CAR WASH, SO YOU WOULD BE IN YOUR CAR UNTIL YOU CAME OUT TO THE VACUUMING AREA AND YOU WOULD DO THE VACUUM.

>> I DO THE VACUUM.

>> WE DON'T HAVE ANY STAFF THAT DOES ANY KIND OF TOUCHING OR DETAILING OF THE VEHICLE.

WE LOAD THE CAR, WE PREP THE FRONT AND THE BACK OF THE CAR, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY WERE THERE KEEPING THE PLACE CLEAN AND SAFE AND NICE.

BUT IT'S AN EXPRESS MODEL.

>> THEN WHEN WOULD THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM USED THE LOUNGE? [LAUGHTER]

>> THE LOUNGE IT'S TO GO TAKE A QUICK PHONE CALL, GET A CUP OF WATER, USE THE RESTROOM AND JUST HAVE A RESPITE FROM THE TEXAS HEAT.

>> WHILE THE MAYOR WAITS FOR HER DRYER.

[LAUGHTER].

>> ANYONE ELSE?

>> I HAVE A QUESTION FOR LEXINGTON.

THE APPLICANT TOLD ME THAT THEY BOUGHT THIS FROM A BANK WHO'S DECIDED NOT TO GO THERE.

FROM MY RESEARCH WORK, THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT BANK IT BASICALLY EXITED OUR IMMEDIATE SERVICE AREA AND LEFT TOWN, BECAUSE THEY CLOSED ANOTHER BRANCH AS WELL.

HAVE WE HAD IN THE LAST DOZEN YEARS OR SO, SINCE RIVERWALK SPIN AROUND.

HAVE WE HAD ANY OTHER APPLICANTS, OTHER THAN THE BANK FOR THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AT ALL?

>> WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY OTHER APPLICANTS.

THE BANK HAD ACTUALLY SUBMITTED A SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND GOTTEN ONE ROUND OF COMMENTS BEFORE THEY EXITED.

WE DID HAVE PREVIOUSLY SLIM CHICKENS HAD DONE A DRC DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WITH STAFF BACK IN 2017.

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BUT THEN I THINK THEY'VE SELECTED A SITE, A DIFFERENT LOCATION ALONG.

>> WITH THE RULE WITH FURTHER SOUTH.

>> BUT THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO DRCS I FOUND A RECORD OF ON THIS PROPERTY.

>> FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS OR SO?

>> JUST IN GENERAL. [LAUGHTER] NOW I MEAN LIKE I SAID, IT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ADDRESS.

POSSIBLY IF PREVIOUSLY IT HAD A DIFFERENT ADDRESS, BECAUSE IT WAS TWO PARCELS COMBINED OR SOMETHING, BUT WITH THIS ADDRESS THOSE WERE THE ONLY ONES THAT I FOUND.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SIR, I HAD NEVER HEARD OF THIS BRAND, SO I LOOKED IT UP AND IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT TWO IN GEORGIA AND THREE IN TEXAS.

REALLY WHY DID YOU PICK FLOWER MOUND? WHEN I PREFACE THIS, I KNOW YOU'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS, AND WE WELCOME YOU GUYS.

IT COULD BE A GREAT PROJECT.

NOT THE EASIEST TOWN TO DO SOMETHING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STAFF.

I'M JUST PUTTING IT OUT THERE.

>> OH, YEAH.

>> I'M NOT DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO REALLY WORK AND RESPOND TO THOSE COMMENTS AND THE ETRAKIT, AND KEEP EVERYTHING GOING.

>> 100%.

>> WHY DID YOU PICK FLOWER MOUND?

>> IT'S BEEN TWO YEARS OF COORDINATION ON ETRAKIT WITH STAFF, AND HONESTLY THEY'VE BEEN GREAT TO WORK WITH AND WE ROLL UP OUR SLEEVES AND WORK IN TOUGH MUNICIPALITIES.

I OWN A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY BESIDES THIS CAR WASH.

THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT ACCUSTOMED TO.

AND I 100% WOULD ECHO BACK TO YOU AND SAY, YOU GUYS DO MAKE IT TOUGH AND THE BAR IS QUITE HIGH.

AND THAT'S AGAIN WHY WE TRIED TO MEET THAT BAR WITH WHAT WE'RE ESTABLISHING HERE.

ONE OF THE REASON WHY I REALLY WANTED TO IS ROB'S FAMILY IS HERE, LIVES IN THE TOWN.

AND OUR OTHER LOCATIONS WE EITHER HAVE TO DRIVE AWHILE OR FLY AWHILE TO GET TO, AND WANTED TO PUT ONE IN HIS BACKYARD.

ECONOMICS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TOWN AND YOU LOOK AT WHERE THE CAR WASHES ARE, AND YOU DO MY STRATEGIC RESEARCH, WHICH IS CALLED THE HOLE IN THE MAP.

THIS TRULY IS A HOLE IN THE MAP.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS UNDERSERVED FOR CAR WASH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE.

AND WITH THE RIVERWALK AREA BEHIND IT, THERE'S A LOT OF DENSE POPULATION THERE, AND THAT'S GOING TO CONTINUE TO GROW THAT COULD USE THIS AWESOME AMENITY.

FIRST IT WAS FLOWER MOUND, AND THEN IT REALLY BECAME MORE AND MORE OF A NARROWED SEARCH OF THIS STRETCH OF LONG PRAIRIE.

AND THEN REALLY THIS SITE THAT WE WORKED OUR BUTTS OFF TO GET HERE.

>> SOUNDS GOOD TO ME. DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?

>> WHAT WAS THE CONCERN ABOUT THE DOG WASH? I WASN'T ON COUNCIL AT THAT TIME.

>> I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF RIVERWALK FLATS, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT WE WERE GOING TO COME IN AND STEAMROLL ANOTHER BUSINESS BASICALLY.

AND JUST CARDS ON THE TABLE, WE'RE OPEN AN HONEST FOLKS.

THE DOG WASH IS NOT TO MAKE MONEY, IT'S LITERALLY JUST TO GARNER FIVE-STAR REVIEWS.

MY COMPETITORS JUST HEARD THAT NOW, SO THE CAT'S OUT OF THE BAG.

>> ANYONE ELSE? THANK YOU, SIR.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THE TIME IS NOW 9:18, AND I AM OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM ZPD 21-0016.

THERESA, DO WE HAVE ANY GREEN COMMENT CARDS?

>> NONE.

>> I DO HAVE A NOTE HERE ACTUALLY.

I HAVE THREE COMMENT CARDS, WHITE ONES AND THEY ARE ALL IN SUPPORT OF THE LAND TRUCK CAR WASH. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT DID NOT FILL OUT A GREEN COMMENT CARD? IF YOU COULD STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

YES, SIR. MR. LANGLEY.

>> SCOTT LANGLEY, 800 CARTER COURT.

IT LOOKS REALLY GOOD, I LIKE IT.

I DON'T KNOW, I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO TURN BACK AND TALK TO HIM BUT IT'S REALLY INNOVATIVE. I APPRECIATE IT.

I THINK THERE'S A FEW CAR WASH PROPOSALS ON THE TABLE RIGHT NOW IN TOWN, AND THIS BY FAR LOOKS LIKE IT.

IT JUST REALLY IS THE BEST ONE.

I LIKE THE CONCEPT AND THE LOCATION, I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE TALK ABOUT, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY COST OF LIKE WHAT ELSE COULD GO THERE.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET A GUCCI STORE.

I DON T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET COACH.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET SEPHORA.

WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET THINGS THAT ARE IN LEGACY WEST AT THIS LOCATION.

I THINK THIS IS LIKE A MARQUEE CAR WASH, AND IT'S PROBABLY AS THEY SAY, WE WERE UNDERSERVED IN SOME PARTS OF TOWNS.

I THINK PEOPLE LIKE TO GO TO A NEIGHBORHOOD CAR WASH, INSTEAD OF DRIVING ACROSS TOWN.

I THINK THIS WOULD SERVE THIS AREA WELL.

I REALLY LIKE THE CONCEPT AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING TO HELP WITH THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF THE NEIGHBORS THAT ARE IN THE AREA TO CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE,

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AND MAKE IT AESTHETICALLY PLEASING.

I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, BYE-BYE.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WISHES TO SPEAK DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT? PLEASE STAND UP OR RAISE YOUR HAND.

SEEING AND HEARING NONE. THE TIME IS NOW 9:20 AND THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CLOSED.

THIS COUNCIL HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR THE APPLICANT?

>> I HAVE A COMMENT, AND IF YOU DON'T MIND PUTTING THE COVER, THE BEGINNING SLIDE THE VERY FIRST SLIDE BACKUP ON THERE.

IN OUR RECENT STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT ONE OF THE DEFINING CHARACTERISTICS OF FLOWER MOUND, IS THAT WE HAVE VERY HIGH STANDARDS.

I THINK THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE BRINGING UP SOMETHING, THAT I WAS PRETTY SKEPTICAL ON WHEN I FIRST SAW, HEARD ABOUT IT AND GOT A COUPLE OF EMAILS FROM RIVERWALK FLATS.

BUT THEN WHEN I SAW THE PLAN AND SEEING IT AGAIN TONIGHT, IT'S A CAR WASH WITH VERY ELEVATED STANDARDS VERSUS OTHERS THAT WE'VE SEEN.

I THINK THAT WE WANT TO REWARD THIS APPLICANT FOR BRINGING US THAT, SOMETHING THAT DOES MEET THOSE STANDARDS.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY IN TERMS OF YOUR SIGN, I LIKE YOUR LOGO. MY WIFE LIKES YOUR LOGO.

I THINK YOU SHOULD INCORPORATE IT INTO YOUR SIGN.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD REQUIRE A COMPREHENSIVE SIGN PACKAGE OR NOT.

I DON'T KNOW, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD BE PART OF IT.

I THOUGHT I LIKE THIS BETTER THAN JUST THE RED SIGN.

>> OH, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A 22 [NOISE] OF THOSE CARS, THEY'RE ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT ONES.

THERE'S EVEN A BATMOBILE AND IT'S LIKE A HIDDEN EASTER EGG IN THE BRAND, IT'S ONLY IN THIS LITTLE BLUE BORDER THAT WE PUT ACROSS THE STOREFRONT GLASS WHERE THE LOUNGE IS, BUT THERE ARE 22 OF THEM, SO COME FIND THEM ALL.

>> COUNCIL, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION?

>> IT IS THE TIME FOR DELIBERATION.

>> IT IS TIME.

>> I WANT TO ECHO SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU JUST SAID COUNSELOR SCHIESTEL, THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY A SEVERAL STEPS ABOVE WHAT I WOULDN'T NORMALLY ENVISION, ESPECIALLY FOR AN EXPRESS CAR WASH.

I'M NOT ORDINARILY FOND OF HAVING CAR WASHES IN CLOSER PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.

I USE EXPRESS CAR WASHES, I WANT MY CAR TO BE CLEAN, BUT SOMETIMES IT'S NOISY.

BUT THIS IS BEAUTIFUL, AND I LOVE WHAT YOU'VE PUT INTO THE IDEA, OF ENCLOSING IT AND MAKING IT DOES SO MUCH OF AN ELEVATED EXPERIENCE.

MY CONCERN IN PASSING THIS IS IF FOR ANY REASON YOU SHOULD DECIDE NOT TO GO THROUGH WITH IT, WE THEN HAVE AN APPROVAL FOR A CAR WASH ON THIS SITE.

I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE HAVING JUST ANY CAR WASH ON THE SITE, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE I'D WANT THIS ONE WITH THIS DESIGN, IT'S JUST SO MUCH ABOVE, ESPECIALLY CLOSER TO RESIDENTIAL.

HOW WOULD WE GET AROUND THAT?

>> AGAIN, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT STAFF INCORPORATED AND THE APPLICANT AGREED TO WITHIN THE PD ORDINANCE REQUIRES THE CAR WASH TO BE WITHIN AN ENCLOSED FACILITY.

WHILE IT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE LANDSHARK.

THEN ALSO, THIS IS BEING APPROVED WITH ELEVATIONS THAT SHOW THAT BUILDING FACADE ON ALL FOUR SIDES.

JUST ANY CAR WASH COULDN'T COME IN AND SAY, OH, WELL WE'RE A CAR WASH, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO AMEND THE ZONING.

WE CAN JUST COME IN AND DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO.

THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT'S BEEN SET UP.

>> YOU FEEL WHAT DEGREE OF CONFIDENCE THAT WOULD EXACTLY BE WHAT COULD LIKELY HAPPEN IF THIS DEAL DOESN'T WORK OUT? YOU FEEL 100% IRONCLAD NOBODY ELSE COULD COME IN WITH AN OPEN CAR WASH CONCEPT AND PUSH THAT IT HAS TO BE APPROVED.

>> NOT WITHOUT AMENDING THE PD.

I MEAN, THERE ARE STANDARD WITHIN THE PD THEY WOULD.

>> IT WILL HAVE TO COME BACK TO US?

>> THAT'S CORRECT.

>> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE.

>> WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT TOPIC, THAT WAS REALLY ONE OF MY CONCERNS WAS GREAT ANOTHER CAR WASH, IT'S GOING TO BE BUILT.

QUITE HONESTLY IN OUR TOWN, IT SEEMS LIKE OVER THE LAST 12-18 MONTHS THE CAR WASHERS HAVE ALL CHANGED HANDS AND OWNERSHIP A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT TIMES.

UNFORTUNATELY, NO OFFENSE.

THE QUALITY SEEMS TO ALSO BE CHANGING AS WELL.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN, BUT I'M GLAD THE APPLICANT HAD A CHANCE TO SPEAK AND SHOW THE DESIGN AND THE BIG PLAN, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY PLANS TO JUST BUILD IT AND THEN SELL IT OFF TOO SQUEAKY CLEAN OR WHATEVER ALL THE OTHER NAMES ARE OUT THERE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE, I WAS JUST CONCERNED ABOUT HOW LONG IS IT REALLY GOING TO BE THERE AND THEN SELL, BUT I APPRECIATE ANN'S COMMENTS ON IRONCLAD IS THE PD.

THEN IT SOUNDS LIKE AS LEGAL AS POSSIBLE.

>> YEAH, JUST KEEPING IN MIND THAT THE EXTERIOR MATERIALS ISSUE IS PREEMPTED NOW, BUT THEN THAT INCLUDES THIS APPLICANT AS WELL.

BUT I JUST WANT A QUALIFY.

>> THAT'S FOR THE TRAILS.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> BUT NOT THE ACTUAL.

>> THE CONCEPT ITSELF [OVERLAPPING].

>> THE CONCEPT AND THE ENCLOSURE.

>> CORRECT.

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>> ANY OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR DELIBERATION?

>> I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I WILL MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM K2ZPD21-0016 LANDSHARK CAR WASH AS PRESENTED.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER TAYLOR?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER DREW?

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL?.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL?

>> AYE.

>> ITEM ZPD21-0016, LANDSHARK CAR WASH IS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE] CONGRATULATIONS.

THANK YOU GUYS FOR COMING.

WE ARE GOING TO BE OPENING ITEM 3,

[Items K3 & K4]

CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION AND ITEM 4, GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS AT THE SAME TIME.

WE HAVE A PRESENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO START WITH JULIE TAYLOR, AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE INTO MR. JOHN MARTIN, MICHAEL MARTIN, AND POSSIBLY BOB DRANSFIELD.

>> CORRECT.

>> MISS TAYLOR?

>> GOOD EVENING, THIS EVENING WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT THE ORDINANCES FOR THE SALE OF THE CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATIONS AND THE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS.

TO RECAP, IN OCTOBER, WE CAME FORWARD AND COUNCIL APPROVED THE REIMBURSEMENT RESOLUTION FOR 7,895,000, WHICH STARTED THE STAFF'S ABILITY TO PROCURE THE PROJECTS TO GET A JUMP-START ON THEM.

ANY EXPENDITURES THAT WOULD BE USED UP TO THAT POINT WAS FROM THE WORKING CAPITAL UTILITY FUND, AND WILL BE REIMBURSED WITH THE BOND PROCEEDS.

NEXT STEP WAS THE NOTICE OF A RESOLUTION FOR INTENT TO SALE, AND THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN THE DENTON RECORD CHRONICLE FOR TWO CONSECUTIVE WEEKS.

IN ADDITION, WE HAD IT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE FOR ABOUT, I THINK, 45 DAYS.

TONIGHT IS FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE PARAMETERS ORDINANCE FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THE COS, AND WE HAVE UP TO 180 DAYS TO CONDUCT THE SALE FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 7,895,000 WITH A MAXIMUM INTERESTS COST OF 5% AND THE MAXIMUM TERM IS FROM MARCH 1ST, 2043.

THE BOND PROCEEDS WILL BE ISSUED TO COVER 5.6 MILLION FOR WATER PROJECTS AND 2.2 MILLION FOR WASTEWATER PROJECTS, AND THEN THE COST OF ISSUANCES.

NEXT STEP, WE HAVE THE GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS.

THIS IS TO REFUND THE CO SERIES 2013 FOR THE YEARS '24 THROUGH '33 FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 6,995,000.

REFUNDING THIS ISSUE WILL LOWER THE OVERALL DEBT SERVICE OF THE TOWN, AND AGAIN, IT SAYS SALES PARAMETER ORDINANCE FOR THIS SALE TO BE COMPLETED WITH 180 DAYS FOR AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 7.3 MILLION, A MAXIMUM INTERESTS COST OF 3.5% WITH A MINIMUM NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS OF 3.5% WITH A TERM OF MARCH 1ST, 2033, WHICH IS THE SAME MATURITY TERM AS THE 2013'S.

WITH THAT, I'LL ASK JOHN TO COME FORWARD AND DISCUSS THE RATINGS AND ALSO THE SALE.

>> THANK YOU, MA'AM. MR. MARTIN?

>> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU, JULIE.

CONGRATULATIONS, ONCE AGAIN, ON YOUR TRIPLE A RATINGS AND MAINTAINING THOSE.

IT'S NOT AS EASY.

ONCE YOU GET THERE, AS YOUR TOWN MANAGER SAID, TO MAINTAIN IT IS PRETTY DIFFICULT, AND YOU GUYS HAVE DONE A FANTASTIC JOB AS WELL AS YOUR STAFF IN TERMS OF YOUR DEBT MANAGEMENT AND YOUR FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT.

OVERALL, WE DON'T HAVE THE WRITING REPORTS JUST YET.

WE'LL HAVE THOSE TOMORROW MORNING FIRST THING, WITH THE HOLIDAY AND SO FORTH, THE WRITING'S JUST CAME IN FRIDAY AND THEY HAD SOME PRINT SHOP PROBLEMS. HOPEFULLY, WE'LL GET ALL THOSE FIRST THING TOMORROW MORNING.

THE UNDERWRITERS INTEND TO OFFER THE BONDS GOING OUT FIRST THING TOMORROW.

WE'LL SEE HOW THE MARKET GOES.

IT WAS A HOLIDAY, SO THE MARKETS WILL CLOSE TODAY.

TOMORROW IS LIKE A MONDAY, SO WE'LL SEE THE MARKET FEELS, SEE WHAT THE TONE IS OF THE MARKET, TOMORROW IF IT'S GOOD, FIRM, WE'LL GO.

THE NICE THING ABOUT THE PARAMETER SALE IS IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE HAVE TO SELL THE BONDS TOMORROW.

SO IF WE COME OUT OF THE OPEN AND IT DOESN'T LOOK SO GOOD, WE'LL GET WITH OUR DESK AND THE UNDERWRITERS, AND DETERMINE THE WAY TO PROCEED.

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AS JULIE SAID, WE HAVE 180 DAYS TO DO THIS, SO WE CAN WATCH AND MAKE SURE.

WE HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THAT IT WON'T BE JUST FINE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF FEDSPEAK GOING ON THESE DAYS AND WE DON'T KNOW WHICH WAY THE MARKET WILL INTERPRET THAT, SO COMING OUT OF A LONG WEEKEND.

WE WANT TO BE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT THAT.

ALL IN ALL, JULIE GAVE YOU THE PARAMETERS THERE.

FOR RIGHT NOW WITH THE COPS, WHILE WE HAVE THE MAX PARAMETER FOR THE TRUE INTEREST COST IS FIVE PER CENT, WE'RE PROJECTING THAT SHOULD BE BELOW 4%, JUST UNDER 4% RIGHT NOW.

WE'LL HOLD, WE'LL KEEP OUR FINGERS CROSSED FOR THAT REFUNDING SIDE.

IT'S NOT A HUGE REFUNDING, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE AND IT'S CERTAINLY WITHIN YOUR DEBT MANAGEMENT POLICY THAT YOU HAVE, WHICH IS WHERE YOU SET THAT THRESHOLD OF THREE-AND-A-HALF PERCENT.

RIGHT NOW, THE SAVINGS THAT WE'RE PROJECTING IS OVER FOUR-AND-A-HALF PERCENT RIGHT NOW.

IT'S ABOUT $350,000 DEBT SERVICE SAVINGS OVER THE REMAINING LIFE OF THE DEBT.

AGAIN, WE'RE NOT EXTENDING THE TERM IT'S JUST GONNA BE A CASHFLOW SAVINGS FROM YOUR ENTERPRISE FUND AND A LITTLE BIT OF YOUR TAX RATE PIECE ON THE I&S SIDE AS WELL, BECAUSE THOSE 2013 COS WERE A COMBINATION OF GENERAL FUND DOLLARS AND WATER SEWER DOLLARS.

WE'RE PROJECTING THE CO THAT THAT ESTIMATED TRUE INTEREST COSTS SHOULD BE JUST UNDER 3% AND THE ORIGINAL WAS 4.2%, SO 120 BASIS POINTS SAVINGS GIVES US UNITS.

AS MR. ENGEL WAS SAYING, IT'S SURPRISING THAT ANY REFUNDING WORKS AS YOUR REFINANCE AND ACTUALLY WORKS.

AGAIN, YOUR TRIPLE A RATING HELPS YOU GET TO THAT ABILITY TO MANAGE YOUR DEBT EVEN BETTER, SO THESE THINGS ALL PAY OFF IN THE LONG RUN.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE OR IF BOB WANTS TO ADD ANYTHING OR.

>> BOB'S NAME IS ON THE LIST, SO NOW'S YOUR CHANCE. [LAUGHTER]

>> BE A STAR, BOB.

>> [LAUGHTER] SEEMS TO BE GOING PRETTY GOOD TONIGHT.

>>MAYOR, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I AM BOB DRANSFIELD OF NORTON ROSE FULBRIGHT, YOUR BOND COUNSEL.

THE ONLY THING I WOULD ADD IS THIS, PASSING THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT THAT'S THE LAST OFFICIAL ACTION YOU ALL WILL DO.

IN CONNECTION WITH THESE TWO ISSUES, THE PRICING CERTIFICATE WHICH JOHN ALLUDED TO EARLIER, WILL TAKE THE DETAILS OF THE FINANCING AFTER THEY ACTUALLY DO THE SALE.

THEN WE'LL HAVE THE MONEY FOR YOU AVAILABLE ABOUT A MONTH AFTER WE FIND THE PRICE, JUST THINK WHATEVER THAT DAY IS, IF IT'S GOING TO BE TOMORROW OR THE NEXT DAY, MONEY SHOULD BE IN THE BANK ABOUT A MONTH FROM THAT POINT IN TIME.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE ABOUT THAT FOR ME.

>> THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS?

>> YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE REFUNDING.

WHY ARE WE PAYING OFF THAT BOND RATHER THAN SHARING THAT AMOUNT TO THE TAXPAYERS INSTEAD? IS IT 350K SAVINGS OVER TEN YEARS? IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID OR IS IT MUCH HIGHER?

>> YEAH, $350,000 IN SAVINGS TO TAXPAYERS AND RATE PAYERS.

>> IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO USE THAT NEXT YEAR TO REDUCE THE TAX AMOUNT PRESENT?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. THAT WILL REDUCE THE OVERALL PAYMENTS OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL YEARS UNTIL 2000.

>> WELL, WITHOUT PAYING THE BOND, USE THE CASH THAT WE HAVE NOW TO REDUCE THE TAXES NEXT YEAR.

>> I'M SORRY, I'M NOT FOLLOWING.

>> WE'RE REPAYING THE BOND, THE 6.995 BILLION?

>> YES.

>> THIS YEAR?

>> YES, WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THOSE THAT ARE, RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE PAYING 4.2% ON.

>> YES.

>> WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THOSE WITH BONDS, SO IT'S JUST LIKE REFINANCING YOUR HOUSE.

>> OKAY, WE'RE REFINANCING, WE'RE NOT PAYING IT OFF WITH CASH?

>> RIGHT, YOU'RE NOT PAYING IT OFF THE CASH.

>> I MISUNDERSTOOD.

>> YEAH, THERE'S TWO PIECES OF DEBT HERE.

ONE IS THE NEW MONEY, THAT'S THE CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION AND THEN THE REFUNDING, THAT IS ANOTHER WORD FOR REFINANCING.

WE'RE STILL BORROWING MONEY, WE'RE JUST PAYING OFF OLD HIGHER INTEREST RATE DEBT WITH NEW LOWER RATE DEBT.

>>YEAH, I MISUNDERSTOOD THE REFUNDING.

>> SORRY.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ARE WE GOING INTO MORE DEBT?

>> NO.

>> NO.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> NOT REALLY.

>> JUST THE COS.

>> TAKE A MOMENT AND JUST EXPLAIN [OVERLAPPING] THE TERM REFUNDING AND WHY YOU USED THAT TERM INSTEAD OF SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE MORE CLEAR.

>> IT'S A TERM OF ART IN THE BOND MARKET, REALLY.

WE ALL CALL IT REFINANCING WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOME MORTGAGES, SO WE CALL ADVANCED REFUNDINGS, CURRENT REFUNDINGS.

SO THIS IS A CURRENT REFUNDING.

THESE BONDS ARE ELIGIBLE THAT WHEN YOU SOLD THOSE COS IN 2013, THE BONDHOLDERS WERE MADE AWARE AT THAT POINT IN TIME THAT YOU HAVE THE OPTION TO PULL THOSE BONDS BACK AND EITHER REFINANCE THEM OR PAY THEM OFF.

>> THAT'S CALL PROTECTION, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT A CALL [OVERLAPPING] PROTECTED LAW?

>> THAT'S IT. YEAH. SO WE WERE BOXED OUT FROM BEING ABLE TO DO ANYTHING FOR NINE YEARS.

AND SO ONCE WE GOT TO THAT POINT, NOW WE HAVE THE OPTION,

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WE CAN LET THEM ROLL AND KEEP PAYING 4.2% ON THEM, OR WE CAN REPLACE THEM WITH LOWER INTEREST-BEARING BONDS.

>> BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GETTING A REFUND.

HONESTLY, IT'S THE TERM THAT YOU USE IS VERY CONFUSING.

>> IT IS. IT DOES SOUND LIKE REFUNDING. [OVERLAPPING]

>> REFINANCING IS REALLY THE CORRECT WORD.

>> THAT'S RIGHT. IT SHOULD BE POINTED OUT TOO THAT THIS WHOLE THING, AND IT'S PLAYED INTO MAINTAINING YOUR AAA RATING TOO, IS THAT WHILE THIS IS DEBT THAT IS A CERTIFICATE OF OBLIGATION THAT'S CONSIDERED GENERAL OBLIGATION DEBT, IN FLOWER MOUND, YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE PURE TAX-SUPPORTED DEBT.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE MAJORITY OF YOUR DEBT IS YOUR WATER AND WASTEWATER SYSTEM.

THAT'S WHAT DRIVES OUR NEED FOR CAPITAL DEBT.

SO YOU HAVE VERY LITTLE DEBT FOR STREETS AND PUBLIC SAFETY AND THOSE TYPES OF THING.

>> LET ME ASK YOU ONE MORE QUESTION. AGAIN, I'M FRAMING THIS IN TERMS OF BEING A CONSUMER.

IF WE HAD CALLED PROTECTION ON THIS, MEANING THAT WE COULDN'T DO A REFUNDING, WOULD THAT LOWER OUR INTEREST RATE?

>> IF SAY THE BONDS WERE NOT CALLABLE, FOR EXAMPLE? [OVERLAPPING]

>> IF YOU BUY A CD, A 10-YEAR CD, YOU GET A BETTER RATE IF THERE'S NO CALL PROTECTION ON IT.

>> YEAH. FLOWER MOUND LIKES TO BORROW FOR 20-YEAR TERMS, AND THAT'S THE WAY THEY ISSUE THEIR COS FOR THEIR NEW MONEY.

YOUR ASSETS ARE ALWAYS LONGER THAN THAT, SO IT'S GOOD FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT, AGAIN.

IF YOU ISSUED THOSE BONDS OUT AS NON-CALLABLE, WHERE YOU DID NOT HAVE THAT OPTION, YOU CERTAINLY MAY HAVE PAID A LITTLE BIT LESS FROM THE GET-GO, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE LOST THIS ABILITY FOR THIS OPTIONALITY.

SO I THINK THAT BY SAVING EVEN AT 1.2% OVER THE NEXT 10 YEARS, IS WELL WORTH IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> ANYONE ELSE WITH ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE PRESENTERS? JAMES, YOU'VE LOOKED AT ALL THIS AND STAFF'S BEEN WORKING ON IT.

I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

WE ALL KNOW FINANCE ISN'T MY STRONGEST BACKGROUND.

WE'VE PLANNED FOR THIS, KIND OF BUDGETED FOR SOME THINGS AND WE'VE GOT ALL THREE OF THE FINANCE STAFF HERE.

SO IT'S PROBABLY PRETTY IMPORTANT, WITH THREE OTHER FOLKS.

SO I'M ASSUMING THAT EVERYONE HAS LOOKED AT THIS AND THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO CONTINUE SERVING?

>> ABSOLUTELY. WE WOULDN'T BRING ANYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU THAT WE DIDN'T PROPERLY VET, SO NO.

I THINK THIS IS, AGAIN, JUST REFLECTIVE OF OUR PRACTICES, AND JULIE, TAMMY, THE TEAM, DO A GREAT JOB OF LOOKING FORWARD AND PROGRAMMING THESE REFUNDINGS.

IT'S A GREAT WAY FOR US TO SAVE MONEY FOR THE TAXPAYERS.

>> THE ONLY OTHER THING I WOULD ADD IS MAYBE WE NEED TO HAVE A BRING-THE-MAYOR-TO-WORK DAY OR SOMETHING, SO I CAN COME UP THERE AND UNDERSTAND THIS A LITTLE BIT MORE.

>> I THINK THERE'S A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE AND I'VE TALKED WITH JOHN ABOUT AN OPPORTUNITY SHORTLY.

AFTER I STARTED, WE DID A BOND ONE-ON-ONE IN A TOWN MANAGER'S REPORT WHERE JOHN CAME UP AND SPOKE.

WITH A COUPLE OF NEW COUNCIL MEMBERS SINCE THAT TIME, IT MAY BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO REVISIT THAT.

REFLECTING ON THE CONVERSATION WE HAD DURING OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING RETREAT LAST WEEK.

AND JUST THINKING FORWARD AS THE STRATEGIC USE OF DEBT THAT'S TIED TO A LEVEL OF SERVICE.

AND I THINK HAVING OUR PARTNERS WITH HILLTOP, THEY'RE GOING TO BE GREAT PARTNERS AS WE GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.

SO WE'RE DEFINITELY TALKING ABOUT OUR OPPORTUNITY FOR SOME ADDITIONAL EDUCATION FOR THE COUNCIL MOVING FORWARD.

>> I FOR ONE WOULD WELCOME THAT, JAMES, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR DELIBERATION FROM COUNCIL?

>> I WAS JUST GOING TO ADD THAT LAST YEAR WE DIDN'T HAVE A REFUNDING BECAUSE THE MARKET CONDITIONS JUST WEREN'T MATCHING UP WITH OUR 2012S AND WHERE THE MARKET WAS.

SO IT WASN'T IN THE NET PRESENT VALUE SAVINGS TO HAVE THAT, SO NOW WE'RE BACK AT IT AGAIN.

WE WENT A LOT OF YEARS WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE, THEN WE HAD A LOT OF REFUNDINGS.

>> CAN YOU ONLY REFUND AT THE NINE OR 10-YEAR MARK?

>> YEAH.

>> SO THE 2012 OPPORTUNITY HAS PAST ONCE?

>> CAN WE DO IT AGAIN?

>> YEAH, YOU CAN DO IT NOW.

>> YEAH, WE CAN DO IT AGAIN. [OVERLAPPING]

>> IT'S JUST THE RATES ARE STILL LOW.

[OVERLAPPING]

>> THEY LOOKED AT IT AND IT WASN'T FEASIBLE.

>> SO THIS IS THE ONLY ONE AT THIS TIME.

OKAY. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS FOR BREN.

SINCE THESE WERE OPEN TOGETHER, CAN ONE MOTION BE MADE OR DO THEY NEED TO BE SEPARATE STILL?

>> WE SHOULD HAVE TWO MOTIONS.

>> SEPARATE. ARE YOU ALL READY FOR THAT?

>> I HAVE IT AS TWO SEPARATE ONES.

>> I HAVE ONE COMMENT. JUST IN TERMS OF THE EDUCATION PORTION, I'D LOVE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT WHAT THE RATINGS AGENCIES ARE LOOKING FOR, WHAT KIND OF BEST PRACTICES THEY'RE USING, SO THAT WE CAN BUILD ON THAT. THANKS.

>> GOOD.

>> YEAH, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT TOO.

>> AND WE'LL HAVE THE RATING REPORTS TOMORROW AND WE'LL SEND THEM ON THROUGH JAMES, SO YOU CAN REVIEW THOSE ALSO.

>> READY?

>> ANY OTHER DELIBERATION, OR OTHERWISE I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 3.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR AGENDUM ITEM K3, AS WRITTEN.

[03:30:04]

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL?

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN?

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR?

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 3, CERTIFICATES OF OBLIGATION PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE] I WILL THEN ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 4.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE REGULAR AGENDA ITEM K4 AS WRITTEN.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION?

>> THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW?

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL?

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN?

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL?

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 4, GENERAL OBLIGATION REFUNDING BONDS PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING ON TO ONLY ITEM 5.

[K5. Over 65 Homestead Exemption - Consider approval of an ordinance amending Section 62-51(a) of Chapter 62 of the Code of Ordinances (Taxation), to increase the exempted amount of the appraised value of residence homesteads of individuals 65 years of age or older to $150,000.]

JUST SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, ONLY ITEM 5.

SOME OF US ON COUNCIL ARE OVER 65, SO WE NEED TO LIMIT THIS DISCUSSION TO ONLY ITEM 5.

AND THEN WE'LL DO THE Q&A, THE MOTION, AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

AND THEN I'M GOING TO OPEN UP 6 AND 7 TOGETHER.

BREN, DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHY I'M DOING THAT?

>> I DO. I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH OUR SOLE OVER-65 MEMBER, I UNDERSTAND THE DESIRE TO ABSTAIN.

>> AS LONG AS WE UNDERSTAND THE PARAMETERS, LET'S TALK ABOUT ITEM NUMBER 5.

AND LEADING US OFF WILL BE MR. JP WALDEN AND WE ALSO HAVE TAMMY WITH US.

HELLO. THANK YOU MAYOR AND TOWN COUNCIL, AND JUST TO CLARIFY FOR MYSELF, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT HOMESTEAD RIGHT NOW.

>> YES, THE OVER 65 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OVER 65 PORTION.

>> SO ONE THING I'LL JUST CHIME IN ON IS THAT WE DID THE EXERCISE AND THE PRESENTATION AS A COLLECTIVE EXERCISE.

WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO TEASE OUT SOME OF THOSE ISSUES AND MAYBE ISOLATE THAT ALL THE INFORMATION WE PRESENTED ON THE SAME SLIDE, BUT MAYBE WE CAN CONCENTRATE THE CONVERSATION JUST ON THE OVER 65 MOVE.

AND JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS, IS THAT WE TOOK THE DIRECTION THAT WE GOT THE LAST COUNCIL MEETING.

OUR FINANCIAL SERVICES TEAMS, AS WELL AS THE TMO WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE SOME OPTIONS FOR YOU ALL.

THE DIRECTION THAT WE RECEIVED IS THAT THE COUNCIL WAS DESIROUS OF LOOKING TO RAISING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AS WELL AS THE SENIOR EXEMPTION AND TAKING A LOOK WHAT IT DOES TO OUR A TAX RATE.

THE EXERCISE THAT WE DID CONTEMPLATES ALL OF THOSE, BUT AGAIN, IF SOMEWHAT BLENDED WITH ONE OF OUR COUNCIL MEMBERS OUT FOR THAT OVER 65, I'M LOOKING AT JP IS HE'S PROCESSING TO SEE IF THERE'S A WAY THAT WE CAN [OVERLAPPING].

>> I CAN SHOW YOU ONE SLIDE.

>> LET'S GO.

>> YEAH.

>> OKAY, SO I THINK ALSO BRAND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CALL A VOTE FOR EACH ONE.

SO I THINK AS LONG AS WE DO IT ENOUGH, BUT AS LONG AS WE CAN DISCUSS THIS ITEM ENOUGH TILL WE GET TO THAT POINT, AND THEN ONCE THAT'S CONCLUDED THEN MAYOR PRO TEM CAN JOIN US, AND THEN IF IT HAPPENS TO COME UP IN ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT ALREADY.

>> JUST FOR YOUR CLARIFICATION, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH CONVERSATION HE'S HAD WITH YOU ALL, AND HE JUST MENTIONED THIS TO ME MOMENTS BEFORE THE COUNCIL MEETING STARTED OR I WOULD HAVE PROVIDED SOME INPUT TO STAFF, BUT THERE IS NO LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTERESTS.

THIS WAS A APPEARANCE OF IMPROPRIETY DECISION THAT HE MADE.

IN THAT REGARD, THERE REALLY IS NO LEGAL GUIDANCE TO GIVE YOU HERE, IT'S HOWEVER WE CHOOSE TO PROCEED.

>> [INAUDIBLE] I HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, IS THAT OKAY?

>> RIGHT.

>> LEGAL CONFLICTS OF INTEREST?

>> IT'S NOT A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTERESTS, THAT'S RIGHT.

OUR ETHICS ORDINANCE EVEN GO SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT'S A REMOTE INTERESTS YOU NEED TO VOTE ON THE TAX RATE OR ANYTHING TO DO WITH TAXES THAT AFFECTS THE GENERAL PUBLIC AS A WHOLE OR A SUBSET, IS NOT A LEGAL CONFLICT OF INTEREST.

>> SO LET'S SEE HOW WELL YOU PIVOT.

>> SO AM I DOING EVERYTHING?

>> I WELL.

>> OVERSEAS, FINE. OKAY. GIVE ME ONE SECOND, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

>> LOOK, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, SO TAKE YOUR TIME.

DO WE WANT TO TAKE A RECESS?

>> NO, WE'RE NOT TAKING THAT LONG,

>> ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH HERE.

SO THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOT ONLY MYSELF UP HERE, WE'VE GOT A WHOLE TEAM.

SO WE'VE GOT TAMMY, KAYE, AND JULIE ARE HERE AS WELL.

SO WE HAVE THE ENTIRE FINANCE TEAM FOR SUPPORT.

SO IF YOU HAVE THE TOUGH QUESTIONS, WE'LL POINT THEM RIGHT OVER HERE.

SO WHAT WE HEARD LAST TIME THAT WE HAD A TOWN COUNCIL MEETING,

[03:35:04]

WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT DIFFERENT PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS.

SO I WILL TO HAVE A SLIDE RIGHT HERE ABOUT WHAT DID WE HEAR AND WHAT ARE WE PROVIDING TONIGHT.

SO FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAD A REQUEST FOR AD VALOREM PROPERTY VALUE BREAKDOWN, WE ALSO HAD A REQUEST FOR THE OVER 65 EXEMPTIONS CPI CALCULATION.

SO WHAT WAS THAT MONEY IN 2006, AND WHAT IS IT TODAY? OF COURSE, WE HAD A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR OUR FINANCIAL MODELS.

SO WHAT WE HEARD IS COUNCIL WAS INTERESTED IN INCREASING THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

YOU'RE INTERESTED IN INCREASING THE OVER-65 DISABLED EXEMPTION AND INTERESTED IN DECREASING THE TAX RATE.

SO WE'LL GET STARTED ON THOSE REQUESTS.

FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE HAVE AD VALOREM PROPERTY TAX.

NOW, WE'RE GOING TO START ON THE LEFT SIDE.

THIS IS A GRAPH THAT SHOWS PERCENT OF TOTAL TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUE WITH THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

SO ALL THE TAXABLE PROPERTY VALUE IN TOWN 65% OF IT IS IN THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

NOW ON THE RIGHT COMMERCIAL, RESIDENTIAL, EVERYTHING.

WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THAT COMMERCIAL VERSUS RESIDENTIAL IS ON THAT 22%, IT ALL LINES UP WHEN YOU SEE THIS GRAPH.

ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, THIS IS A PERCENT OF TOTAL PROPERTY COUNT WITH OVER 65 AND OR DISABLED EXEMPTION.

NOW WE HAVE TO DO COUNTS ON THIS ONE BECAUSE THE DIFFERENCE IS ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS A PERCENTAGE AND SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT.

ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, IT IS A NUMBER, IT IS A $100,000.

SO WE CAN TELL ON EVERY SINGLE PROPERTY HOW MUCH ROOM IS ABOVE THAT 100,000.

THAT'S WHY ITS A COUNT ON ONE SIDE AND IT'S A PERCENT OF TOTAL TAX FULL PROPERTY VALUE ON THE OTHER.

>> HOW ARE YOU HANDLING PEOPLE WITH BOTH?

>> YES, IF YOU HAVE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION AND YOU ALSO HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

WOULD THIS WOULD BASICALLY SHOW YOU IT'S ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IT'S 15% OF TOTAL PROPERTY COUNT, THAT'S PERSONS WHO HAVE THAT OVER 65 OR DISABLED EXEMPTION.

ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE IT'S PURELY HOMESTEAD, SO IN THAT 65% THERE'S ALSO GOING TO BE A PERCENTAGE THAT ALSO HAS OVER 65 AND DISABLED.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

THE NEXT ONE I THOUGHT WAS GOING TO BE MY WORKLOAD HERE BUT IT REALLY WASN'T, BECAUSE THERE'S A WEBSITE THAT HAS THIS INFORMATION AND IT WAS VERY SIMPLE.

SO I FOUND THE CPI INFLATION CALCULATOR, AND I JUST DID TO THE JANUARY 2006 AND THE LATEST DATA THAT WE CAN FIND IS APRIL 2023.

SO YOU CAN TELL THAT $100,000 WHEN THE OVER-65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION OF $100,000 WAS PUT IN PLACE IN 2006 IT IS WORTH AROUND 150,000 TODAY.

AND WE'LL GO ON TO THE MODELS.

ALL RIGHT, SO THIS IS WHEN WE PUT ALL OF OUR DISCLAIMERS OUT.

>> I'M SORRY. I KNOW WE'RE ALL WRITING THAT.

THAT WAS ACTUALLY A PRETTY GOOD NEWS STORY RIGHT THERE.

THAT AMOUNT, SO I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT. GO AHEAD.

>> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, SO FOR OUR TAX RATE MODELS, WE WANT TO SHOW DIFFERENT MODELS.

COUNCIL SAID, "HEY, WE WANT TO SEE THE NUMBERS." SO NUMBER ONE IS WE HAD TO AGREE ON ONE DATA SET.

SO WE ALL TALKED ABOUT THIS DATA CHANGES WEEKLY AND WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE.

SO FOR US, IN ORDER TO CREATE A MODEL, WE NEEDED TO SOLIDIFY OR FREEZE OUR DATA.

BECAUSE THE WORST THING YOU CAN HAVE IS CREATE A MODEL AND ALL THE DATA THAT IS CHANGING, YOU'RE TRYING TO INPUT IT.

SO WE HAD TO GO AHEAD AND FREEZE OUR DATA.

AND WE DID THAT THE DAY AFTER OUR COUNCIL MEETING.

AND YOU HEARD THIS THEN AS WELL, 39% OF OUR PROPERTIES ARE IN PROTEST.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT THAT MEANS IS WHEN PROPERTIES ARE IN PROTESTS WHAT [INAUDIBLE] DOES, THEY TAKE THE LOWEST VALUATION BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR.

OBVIOUSLY IN THIS ECONOMIC ENVIRONMENT THAT'S MORE THAN LIKELY GOING TO BE LAST YEAR'S VALUATION, THAT'S HOW THEY COUNT IT.

SO THEREFORE AS PROPERTIES SETTLE, OUR TAXABLE VALUE SHOULD RISE AND THEREFORE OUR TAX RATE SHOULD LOWER.

SO THIS IS HOW IT'S SET UP.

IT SAYS MODEL FACTORS.

NOW AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT WE HEARD FROM COUNCIL.

THIS IS OUR GOAL IN THIS MODEL IS INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, INCREASE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION AND LOWER THAT TAX RATE.

THEN OUR MODEL RULE, THIS IS THE ONE THING FOR A MODEL THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO BREAK.

IF WE GO OVER 0.405, THAT'S WHEN THE MODEL BREAKS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT THAT TAX RATE MAY LEAK A LITTLE BIT, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO PLAN ON RAISING THE TAX RATE.

>> SO 40% IS RIGHT NOW CURRENTLY LAST YEAR'S VALUE, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING?

>> WHAT THEY DO IS THEY TAKE THE LOWEST VALUATION.

SO MORE THAN LIKELY IT WOULD BE THAT LAST YEARS.

AND THEN AS THEY GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, WHATEVER THEY SETTLE ON THAT DIFFERENCE COMES OUT ONTO THE OTHER SIDE.

ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO SOME MODELS HERE.

[03:40:03]

>> ALL RIGHT, SO I JUST WANT EVERYONE TO KNOW TOO, IS CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A 10% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IN 100,000 OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION.

BUT I WANTED TO SHOW IS THE CHANGES THAT YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT MAKING TONIGHT.

SO TO START OFF AS A BASE LAYER ON OUR MODEL WITH THE DATA THAT WE'VE PICKED, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WE'RE NOT INCREASING IT TONIGHT.

IF YOU DO NOTHING TONIGHT, THE TAX RATE ON THIS MODEL AND THE DATA THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS MODEL WILL COME OUT TO 0.388186.

>> THAT'S THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE?

>> IT IS. YES, SIR. IF WE DID A 2.5% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WE DID NOT DO AN OVER 65 AND DISABLE THAT TAX RATE WOULD THEN GO TO 0.39498.

WE'RE GOING TO KEEP MOVING.

WHY WE STARTED WITH HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION? IT'S BECAUSE A COUPLE OF SLIDES AGO YOU SAW THAT'S THE BIGGEST PIECE OF OUR TOTAL TAXABLE VALUE.

WE KNOW THAT'S GOING TO HAVE THE BIGGEST SWING.

THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO START WITH HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FIRST.

WE GOT TO KEEP ON GOING.

WHEN WE GET TO 5%, THAT'S WHEN WE GET ABOVE THE 0.405.

NOW, THIS MAKES SENSE.

JUST THINK BACK TO LAST YEAR.

WE'RE IN THIS SAME SPOT.

WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS AND COUNCIL DECIDED TO PROVIDE TAX RELIEF TO OUR RESIDENTS WITH THAT HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AT 5% AND OUR TAX RATE STAYED THE SAME.

YOU CAN SEE IN THIS MODEL THAT'S THE ROOM THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

>> QUICK QUESTION. JUST TO BE CLEAR, WHEN YOU SAY 0%, ZERO DOLLARS, THAT'S 0% CHANGE?

>> CHANGE. YES. THANK YOU.

>> WE WOULD STILL KEEP IT AT 10% HOMESTEAD AND 100,000 FOR 65.

>> YES, MA'AM.

>> ETC. ETC.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT.

>> GOOD.

>> BUT ALSO THE 40% OUTSTANDING, YOU'RE ASSUMING THEIR VALUES ARE GOING TO BE HELD STATIC FROM LAST YEAR, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN, SO WE'RE GOING TO GET MORE VALUE.

>> THAT'S MORE CONSERVATIVE.

IT'S A CONSERVATIVE WAY, I LIKE THAT.

>> BUT IT WILL COME DOWN A LITTLE BIT AS THOSE SORT OUT, AND A QUITE BIT, TOO.

>> THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS.

I TRIED TO DO A COUPLE OF THINGS.

AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO SIMPLIFY A LOT OF THINGS.

THAT'S WHY WE PROBABLY HAVE A LOT OF DISCLAIMERS.

THERE'S OTHER NUMBERS.

THE OTHER THING IS WE'VE MADE CHANGES IN 2021 AND 2020, BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD LOVE TO DO IS I'D LOVE TO GO TO LAST YEAR'S NUMBER AND SHOW YOU HOW IT HAPPENED.

HOW THE BETWEEN PROTESTS AND TAXABLE VALUE, BUT IN-BETWEEN THOSE DATASETS, WE HAVE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION OF 5% AND THE YEAR BEFORE AS WELL, SO YOU GET TO 2020.

A LOT WAS IN PROTESTS AND WE DIDN'T GET CERTIFIED ROLES THAT YEAR.

THEN YOU'RE GOING BACK TO PRE SP2.

YES, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING TO SAY A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE HERE.

>> UNLESS IT WAS IN THE MEETING I MISSED, I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE ACTUAL BECAUSE TO ADAM'S POINT, HE WAS KEPT SAYING, "LOOK, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE OVERRUN, WE'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE MORE WISHES. DON'T CUT IT." I WAS LIKE. ''HEY, DON'T CUT IT ANYMORE.'' HE'S LIKE, "I'M TELLING YOU IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER." AS AN OFFSET OR SOMETHING OR SPECIAL, WHATEVER.

I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO SEE AND TO HELP US LEARN GOING FORWARD LIKE WHAT WERE THE ACTUALS LAST YEAR? DID WE ACTUALLY MAKE A GOOD DECISION LAST YEAR? SHOULD WE HAVE DONE MORE LAST YEAR BASED ON THE ACTUALS? BECAUSE SOME OF US MAY BE STILL BE THIS YEAR SAYING, "HEY, WE NEED TO BE MORE CONSERVATIVE WITH THE HOMESTEAD OR MORE CONSERVATIVE THIS WAY WHEN IN ACTUALITY, BECAUSE OF EVERYTHING ELSE FROM MAYBE WE COULD HAVE DONE MORE.

NOW A YEAR LATER IT'S TOO LATE BECAUSE NOW EVERYONE'S PAID.

IS THAT MAKE SENSE WHAT I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU, MAN?

>> WELL, IF OUR GOAL IS THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE.

THAT'S PART OF OUR DEBATE WAS DO WE WANT TO HIT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE OR DO WE WANT TO GO INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT? ULTIMATELY, WHAT WE DID IS WE HIT THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE AND THEN WE SHIFTED THE TAX RELIEF TOWARDS THE HOMESTEAD.

NOW, I THINK THE DEBATE WAS, AND THIS IS WHAT ANN AND I TALKED ABOUT.

WE WANT TO DO A LITTLE MORE THAN JUST TARGET ONE POPULATION.

WE WANT TO TRY TO GIVE EVERYONE, INCLUDING NON-HOMESTEAD AND COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, MAKE SURE THEY ENJOY SOME OF THIS TAX RELIEF TOO.

>> THAT WAS THAT POINT LAST YEAR.

>> SO THERE'S STILL SOME OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS.

>> I SAID, WELL, I'D RATHER GIVE A LITTLE BIT LESS HOMESTEAD, BUT GIVE MORE ON THE RATE REDUCTION TO BALANCE IT OUT FOR EXACTLY WHAT YOU JUST SAID.

I AM INTERESTED IN TRYING TO SHARE THE SAVINGS.

>> YOU ARE CORRECT. THESE ARE THREE DIFFERENT LEVERS, WE'RE GETTING TO THE SAME PLACE.

IT JUST DEPENDS ON WHERE AND WHAT YOU WANT TO FOCUS ON.

THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING INTO THIS IS WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO DO EVERYTHING [LAUGHTER] AND MOVING FORWARD TO YOUR POINT, MAYOR.

THE 5% HOMESTEAD FOR LAST YEAR, KEEPING THE TAX RATE THE SAME.

ON HERE, WE HAVE THAT 5% AT 0.405214.

I CAN'T STAND UP HERE AND TELL YOU THAT TAX RATE IF YOU DID THE 5% OF THAT YOU WANT TO BE COMING BACK AND POSSIBLY RAISING TAX RATE.

[03:45:01]

I CAN'T SAY ALL THOSE THINGS.

WHAT I CAN SAY THOUGH, IS RIGHT HERE AT 2.5% WE'RE GOOD.

WE GET TO FIVE, IT BREAKS THE MODEL.

WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO MOVING FORWARD IN THE MODELS, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK IN 2.5%.

WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO DO EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN AND COUNCIL MEMBER SCHIESTEL WERE TALKING ABOUT AND GOING FOR OVER 65 DISABLED AND LOWERING THE TAX RATE.

I WANT TO MOVE ON TO OVER 65 AND DISABLED AND EXEMPTION.

AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO LOCK IN THAT 2.5% HOMESTEAD.

FOR YOU 2.5% HOMESTEAD I WAS THINKING BACK TO THE GRAPH THAT WE SAW THAT $100,000 IN 2006 IS WORTH AROUND $150,000 TODAY.

AN INCREASE OF 2.5-12.5% TODAY, AN INCREASE OF 50,000 FOR THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED TO A TOTAL OF 150,000.

THE TAX RATE IN OUR MODEL COMES OUT TO 0.402794.

THAT WORKS, BUT WE WANT TO KEEP GOING.

WE WANT TO SEE OUR LIMITS.

WE WENT 75,000, AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THAT IS NOW AGAIN, ON OUR MODEL, OUR MODEL RULE THAT HAS BROKER MODEL.

I ALSO WANTED TO SEE HOW FAR CAN WE GO.

THAT NUMBER GOES UP TO THAT 60,000 NUMBER.

ACTUALLY, I GOT A SLIDE IN BETWEEN THAT.

BASED ON THE DIRECTION THAT WE WANTED TO INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION AND DECREASE THE TAX RATE.

OUR RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TONIGHT, INCREASING IT BY 2.5% TO A TOTAL OF 12.5%.

THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION INCREASING THAT BY 50,000 TO A TOTAL OF 150,000.

THEN FOR THIS MODEL, WHICH IT WILL CHANGE, [LAUGHTER] THE TAX RATE WILL BE 0.402794.

THEN I GOT ONE MORE SLIDE WITH A LOT OF NUMBERS ON IT.

WE'LL TRY TO BREAK IT DOWN HERE.

I WANTED TO GET TO THE AVERAGE BILL NOW.

AGAIN, AVERAGE HOME VALUE 503,710.

REALLY I WANTED YOU TO SEE THIS, SO YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCES AND YOU COULD TELL A LOT BY HOW NUMBERS MOVE.

AGAIN, THIS IS WITH OUR CURRENT TAX RATE 0.405.

IF YOU DID NOTHING TONIGHT, YOU DIDN'T INCREASE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTIONS OR INCREASE THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION.

OUR MODEL SAYS 0.388186 AND YOU SEE WHAT THAT DOES TO YOUR BILL.

SCENARIO 1 WOULD BE IF YOU DID NOT INCREASE THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, BUT YOU DID INCREASE THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION BY $50,000, WHAT WOULD THAT LOOK LIKE? SCENARIO 2 IS GOING TO BE JUST A 2.5% INCREASE TONIGHT ON THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND NO INCREASE FOR OVER 65 AND DISABLED.

SCENARIO 3 IS GOING TO BE THE PLUS 2.5% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND $25,000 INCREASED TO OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTIONS.

SCENARIO 4 IS OUR RECOMMENDATION, WHICH IS GOING TO BE, AGAIN, INCREASING BY 2.5%, THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, AND 50,000 FOR BOTH THE OVER 65 AND DISABLED EXEMPTION.

I ALSO SHOWED YOU UP HERE THAT SCENARIO 5, WHICH IS JUST GOING TO BE 60,000 FOR OVER 65.

YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS ALL MOVES HERE.

THEN BELOW, IF YOU ARE OVER 65 AND THE ORDINANCE SAY YOU HAVE THAT ON HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, THIS IS GOING TO BE YOUR EXAMPLE WITH THAT.

WHAT YOU CAN REALLY TELL IS WITH OUR RECOMMENDATION, WE'RE GIVING RELIEF SPECIFICALLY TO THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION YOU CAN SEE HERE, TOO.

LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE PRELIMINARY AND SCENARIO 2, AND THAT TELLS US THAT THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION IS GOING TO SEE MORE RELIEF FOR THOSE THAT HAVE HOMESTEADS THAN JUST A LOWER TAX RATE.

THAT IS A FOCUSED APPROACH, AND WHAT WE CAN TELL DOWN HERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT ANYTHING WITH THAT INCREASE TO THE EXEMPTION, IT'S PRETTY POWERFUL.

YOU REALLY SEE A DIFFERENCE TAX RELIEF FOR THOSE WHO ARE OVER 65 AND/OR DISABLED IN THIS COMMUNITY.

THAT WAS OUR RECOMMENDATION.

I'M GOING TO LEAVE SOME OF THESE NUMBERS UP HERE.

I'M SURE Y'ALL HAVE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL BE CLOSE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE HARD WORK YOU PUT INTO THIS.

VERY WELL DONE. I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH YOUR ANALYSIS.

>> YEAH, GOOD JOB.

>> I ONLY WISH THE TAX SAVINGS WERE BIGGER.

[LAUGHTER] I KNOW. I MEAN, THEY CAN BE, NOT MUCH THOUGH. NOT THAT MUCH.

>> WELL, THIS IS THE FAR THE MOST CONSERVATIVE TAX RATE THERE TOO, BECAUSE AS THE ROLES COME IN.

>> IT'S THE PART OF APPROVAL RATE. IF THIS ASSUMES THAT WE'RE TAKING ALL THE MONEY THE STATE WILL ALLOW US TO TAKE FROM OUR TAXPAYERS AND JUST DECIDING WHO'S PAYING MORE OR LESS, WE STILL HAVE TO BE WILLING TO FOREGO SOME OF THAT REVENUE.

[03:50:03]

>> I'M FINE WITH THAT. I THINK IT'S FINE BUT I JUST WISH IT WERE MORE.

>> I THINK WHAT'S MISSING THOUGH, IS THAT PIECE, THE REVENUE PIECE, THE BUDGET PIECE.

BY DOING THAT AND BY TRYING TO CUT WHAT DEPARTMENT IS GOING WITHOUT? ARE WE GOING WITHOUT THE NEW STATION 6? I TOTALLY SUPPORT DOING THAT AND LOWERING IT, BUT WITHOUT HAVING THE REVENUE ON TOP AND SEEING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DRIVE TO OUR BUDGET AND THE DECISION PACKAGES.

ONE GREAT THING ABOUT GOVERNMENT IS WE HAVE TO DO THE HOMESTEAD FIRST AND THEN WE DO THE TAX RATE, AND THEN WE DO THE BUDGET.

IT'S A WEIRD ORDER. WHILE I APPRECIATE ALL OF THIS, I DON'T WANT TO DO TOO MUCH AGAIN, I'M SAYING THE SAME THING.

I DON'T WANT TO DO TOO MUCH AND THEN BE LIKE, WELL, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT.

>> YEAH, BUT THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR LATER BECAUSE WE CAN DO ALL THIS.

ALL WE'RE JUST SAYING IS WE ARE TAKING MAXIMUM REVENUE IN THESE SCENARIOS AND STILL GIVING HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASE AND A TAX RATE CUT.

>> WHEN THE FINAL ROLES COME IN, WOULD PROBABLY BRING MORE IN SO THAT TAX RATE COULD GO DOWN.

>> EXACTLY.

>> THIS SHOULD BE THE CAP. WE CAN BRING IT DOWN.

>> THIS IS STILL THE CAP.

>> WITH NO BUDGET CHANGES.

>> I THINK Y'ALL ARE MAKING THE SAME POINT.

I APOLOGIZE, COUNCIL MEMBER DREW, IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU'RE READY TO TALK OR NOT.

I SAW HIM REACHING FOR THE MIC THERE.

BUT YOU ARE CORRECT THIS IS A DECISION TONIGHT ABOUT A HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND OVER 65 EXEMPTION AND THEN DISABLED OR DISABILITY EXEMPTION.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS YOU HAVE THE TAX RATE DISCUSSION WITH THE BUDGET.

WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IS IF YOU ARE GOING TO SET THESE NOW, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL DATE OF THE FULL INFORMATION.

YOU WANT TO DO IT IN A WAY THAT'S NOT GOING TO HANDCUFF YOU LATER ON.

PART OF THIS AND PART OF THE REASON WHY WE'RE RECOMMENDING WHAT WE ARE IS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THIS, PER THE DIRECTION OF TOWN COUNCIL, HAS THE MOST TAX RELIEF SPREAD OUT AND STILL ALLOWS THAT TAX RATE TO BE ABLE TO OSCILLATE AS IT WILL.

>> BUT NOT GO UP.

>> HOPEFULLY NOT. I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT.

>> IN THIS MODEL IT WILL NOT GO UP. THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING ME.

I KNOW THAT NOTHING IS ABSOLUTE.

>> IT ISN'T GOING UP, BUT WE STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT AUSTIN IS GOING TO COME BACK WITH, WHICH IS UNFAIR THAT THEY MAKE US DO THIS WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

BUT I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY ONE THING.

THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE IS 0.388186.

IF WE DID ADOPT SCENARIO 4, THAT RATE IS 0.402794, WHICH IS MORE THAN 0.3. HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> WELL, SO THE FIRST PRELIMINARY, THAT'S IF YOU GAVE NO INCREASED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION TONIGHT, AND NO ADDITIONAL INCREASED OVER 65 AND DISABLED.

>> WE'RE GOOD BECAUSE THE VOTER APPROVAL RATE WOULD MOVE TO 0.402. GOT IT.

>> AND YOU SEE TOO IS THEY REALLY ARE, ONE GOES UP, THE OTHER ONE GOES DOWN.

>> SO WE'RE STILL ABLE TO DO THAT.

IT'S STILL LOWER.

IT WOULD BE THE LOWEST TAX RATE EVER IN FLOWER MOUND.

>> THE ONE THING THAT I WOULD [NOISE] ADD IS THAT, AND I WAS ABOUT TO POP ON THE MIC, BUT THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY, LET JP GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE PRESENTATION.

BECAUSE THE REALITY OF THE SITUATION IS THAT IF YOU LOOK AT SCENARIO 4, REALISTICALLY, THAT TAX RATE IS GOING TO BE LOWER THAN [LAUGHTER] 0.402, IT'LL BE LOWER THAN THAT.

HOW LOW IS TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT UNIVERSE OF PROTESTS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT'S GOING TO DROP THE TAX PACE UP.

SO AGAIN, IN THIS SCENARIO, THAT'S WHY ULTIMATELY, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT.

WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT NUMBERS GOING TO LAND, BUT IT'S GOING TO TRAIL IN ONE DIRECTION ONCE THAT'S ALL SAID NONE.

SO IN ESSENCE, YOU'LL REALIZE ALL THREE IN THIS SCENARIO.

>> WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS ON SCENARIO 4 INSTEAD OF SCENARIO 5? IF WE'RE GOING TO ASSUME THAT IN SCENARIO 5 THAT 0.404 WOULD ACTUALLY TREND DOWN AS WELL, THAT WOULD STILL GIVE US SOME LEEWAY AND GIVE THE SENIORS AND DISABLED A LITTLE BIT MORE OF SAVINGS.

>> THAT IS TRUE. I BELIEVE THE REASON WHY WE HAD RECOMMENDED THAT IS A LITTLE BIT OF BUFFER [LAUGHTER] BECAUSE THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS POTENTIALLY RAISE THE TAX RATE HERE OR HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT WAS WITH THE IDEA THAT HOPEFULLY, IT SHOULD LEAK DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE AND HOPEFULLY, WE CAN GET MORE OF THE MAGIC NUMBER MORE DOWN TO WHERE SOME OF THESE SCENARIOS ARE.

THAT'S THE THOUGHT PROCESS ON THAT.

PLUS, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE ACTUAL HOW IT WORKS, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE TAX BILL, WE REALIZED THAT THAT SCENARIO 4 WITH THE 50,000 IS GIVING SIGNIFICANT RELIEF TO OVER 65, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT SCENARIO 5, WE WOULD BE GOING DOWN FIVE DOLLARS TO GIVE 69, 70, AND 89, A LITTLE BIT OVER $37 RELIEF TO SENIORS.

[03:55:06]

THAT'S JUST WHERE WE LANDED. YOU KNOW WHAT? JUST RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON DIRECTION, WHATEVER YOU-ALL WANT TO DO TONIGHT, WE DEFINITELY WILL DO.

>> I APPRECIATE THE THOUGHT PROCESS.

>> ANY OTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF?

>> DO WE HAVE TO KNOCK OUT [OVERLAPPING], RIGHT?

>> YES. SO IF WE'RE DONE WITH THE DISCUSSION AND DELIBERATION ON NUMBER 5, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR NUMBER 5.

I THINK WE HIT THE SWEET SPOT. I REALLY DO THINK THIS IS THE SWEET SPOT.

BRIAN, I LIKE WHAT YOU WERE THINKING, BUT I THINK IT GIVES US SOME FLEXIBILITY MAYBE TO GET THE RATE DOWN A LITTLE MORE, AND THEN OF COURSE, WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK NEXT YEAR AND START.

IT'S BEEN LIKE 18 YEARS SINCE WE'VE RAISED THIS THING.

IT'S CRAZY. SO WE NEED TO DO THIS MUCH MORE FREQUENTLY.

>> THAT'S MY QUESTION IS, I DON'T REMEMBER DISCUSSING THIS LAST YEAR.

SO I GUESS IF WE APPROVE IT, THEN IT JUST GOES UNTIL WE CHANGE IT? IS THAT HOW IT WORKS THEN?

>> I COMPLETELY AGREE THIS DOES PEANUT BUTTER THE SAVINGS ACROSS EVERYBODY, LOWER TAX RATE, THE HOMESTEAD, AND THE SENIOR AND DISABLED.

I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON THE SENIORS AND DISABLED IN FUTURE YEARS AS WELL.

I DO THINK WE HAVE SOME WORK TO DO THERE, BUT WE CAN'T TAKE IT ALL IN ONE BITE, SO I LIKE IT.

>> ARE WE READY FOR A MOTION?

>> I'M READY.

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE AGENDA ITEM K5, ADOPTING SCENARIO 4 WITH A $150,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR THOSE OVER AGE 65.

>> SECOND.

>> WE'RE CLEAR? ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL.

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 5, OVER 65 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASED TO $150,000, PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE]

>> I'M SO EXCITED. I'M THRILLED.

>> MR. ENGEL?

>> BREAK TIME OVER.

>> SO HOW YOU GUYS DECIDE TO DO THE NEXT ONE.

>> [BACKGROUND] BRING HIM UP TO SPEED.

>> SO WE'RE GOING TO AHEAD AND OPEN ITEMS NUMBER 6,

[Items K6 & K7]

DISABLED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION AND ITEM 7, THE REGULAR HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

AT THE SAME TIME WE'RE GOING TO LEAD OF BY THE STAFF PRESENTATION OR AT LEAST A BRIEF DISCUSSION BY MR. WILTON.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD, MR. WILTON?

>> I DO NOT, BUT I WILL ANSWER ANY QUESTION THAT COUNCIL MAY HAVE.

>> DOES COUNCIL HAVEN'T ANYMORE QUESTIONS.

I HAVE A NOTE HERE THAT WE HAVE TO DO A MOTION FOR EACH ONE.

SO IF COUNCIL IS READY, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR ITEM NUMBER 6.

>> COULD YOU PUT THAT ONE SLIDE UP THAT HAD THE OPTION SO I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING.

I THINK I KNOW BUT I JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

THAT ONE. I MOVE TO APPROVE ITEM NUMBER 6, ADOPTING A $150,000 HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION FOR DISABLED INDIVIDUALS.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA, YET AGAIN, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL.

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 6, DISABLED HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE]

>> I MOVE TO APPROVE. ARE YOU READY?

>> I'M READY.

>> AGENDA ITEM K7, ADOPTING A 12.5% HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THAT MOTION? THERESA, YOU GOT THE DOUBLE SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL.

>> AYE.

>> ITEM NUMBER 7, HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION INCREASED TO 12.5%, PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE]

>> I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.

>> THE TIME IS NOW 10:09 AND YOUR TOWN COUNCIL IS

[M. CLOSED MEETING]

CONVENING INTO A CLOSED MEETING PURSUANT TO TEXAS GOVERNMENT CODE CHAPTER 551, SECTION 071, 072, AND 087.

[NOISE] THE TIME IS NOW 10:48 AND WE'RE RECONVENING INTO AN OPEN MEETING.

[NOISE] WE DO HAVE AN ACTION TO TAKE,

[04:00:02]

SO I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

>> I MOVE TO APPOINT, SCOTT LANGLEY TO PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION, PLACE 8 ALTERNATE WITH THE TERM EXPIRATION DATE OF 09/30/2024.

>> SECOND.

>> [OVERLAPPING] I FORGOT TO PUT THAT IN, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.

>> SECOND.

>> ANY DELIBERATION ON THE MOTION? THERESA, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON.

>> COUNCILMEMBER SCHIESTEL.

>> AYE.

>> DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MARTIN.

>> AYE.

>> MAYOR PRO TEM ENGEL.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER DREW.

>> AYE.

>> COUNCILMEMBER TAYLOR.

>> AYE.

>> MOTION PASSES BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.

[NOISE] SEEING AS THAT THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS LEFT, THE TIME IS NOW 10:49, AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.

[NOISE]

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.